general-chat

[frosty echo]

Read some rand if only to see how incoherent it is

[spark plume]

I think Marx was a chronically unemployed loser with a lot of bad ideas and an entitlement complex but at least some of his ideas hold merit and he isn't a rambling mental patient like Rand

[tawny gorge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fr4aAu_Ryc&ab_channel=takaeo

[tawny gorge]

real people want the absolute democracy ending

from invisible war

[blissful kiln]

iw doesn't exist

[marsh iris]

https://tenor.com/view/ace-attorney-phoenix-wright-phoenix-attorney-ligma-gif-13438596910712889525

[frosty echo]

Why are you talking to me about marx also he wasn't employed he was Engels' intellectual sugar baby

[tawny gorge]

invisible war is canon and is full of interesting stuff

[spark plume]

Because I despise Marxism but at least his work isn't Atlas Shrugged

[elder hare]

Marx had an idea which was definitely subjective to the time he lived, adherent to communism vs socialism. It's a product of it's time, especially when looking at the industrial revolution

[spark plume]

I said chronically unemployed btw

[ancient violet]

Ayn Rand

Nah this guy is gone 💀

[spark plume]

Yeah I mean his ideas came about because of the rampant exploitation by corporate interests during industrialisation. Just look at the radium girls for example

[frosty echo]

They deleted my favorite tweet

[tawny gorge]

you fucked up

[ancient violet]

How could this have happened?? 😞😞😞😞

[spark plume]

Read it to understand it so you can properly critique it. I know it's a foreign concept because you only engage with content you agree with to live in a comfortable echo chamber

[tawny gorge]

@ancient violet takes you going down just a bit

[ancient violet]

I have read Ayn Rand

Literally one of the most painful things I had to endure in College 💀

[tawny gorge]

what did you graduate in?

[spark plume]

So why are you being a mocking shithead when I recommend authors from each political compass quadrant?

[frosty echo]

This had a song clip that went I NEED DOLLAR, DOLLAR, DOLLAR THAT'S WHAT I NEED!

[ancient violet]

Political Compass Quadrant

💀💀💀💀💀

This is getting funnier by the second

[tawny gorge]

youre corny

[frosty echo]

the political compass

[spark plume]

Ayn Rand wasn't libertarian right and Marx wasn't authoritarian left

[frosty echo]

Its a good thing theres only two axises of thought or politics would be really hard to make charts of in photo editors

[ancient violet]

Wasn't the person who invented the Political Compass biased on making the chart look good on the bottom left? 🤔

[spark plume]

Beinhocker and Loesch also aren't the same but it's good for categorisation to group authors into generalised political ideologies

[frosty echo]

I dunno, pretty meaningless to its usage

[tawny gorge]

elaborate

[frosty echo]

It gets rebiased every time someone puts new points on one

[tawny gorge]

^^^

[fair bridge]

that's twice now that people have reposted stuff i have sent in this chat in the past hour.

that means I Am The Best Poster

[ancient violet]

Also the "market place" of ideals and treating every ideology with equal value is like going into a supermarket and looking at the cereal Isle 💀

I hate this concept of treating politics like a niche or commodity

[tawny gorge]

its a goddamn compass

[blissful kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/irene-vampirene-kpop-red-velvet-vampire-gif-13892556699864010023

[elder hare]

no such thing as an unbiased political view, now we're getting into philosophy

[spark plume]

There's obviously more but Rand and Sowell have more in common than Sowell and Chomsky

[civic otter]

KILL THAT SEXTUS-MINORIS 1 0 5

[frosty echo]

This is what we should be using feature spaces for not genai

[ancient violet]

No

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayne_Brittenden

[amber delta]

my political compass is whatever gets me a big booty latina

[spark plume]

That would be centrist because you can grill a mean steak

[fair bridge]

every time i fart i am hovering near the precipice looking down into the abyss of shitting my pants

[civic otter]

my political compass is whatever lines my pockets better so i can buy more WH slop

[spark plume]

Libright, sell HIV infected medication to developing nations. Oh wait that actually happened

[tawny gorge]

"no"
then elaborates anyways

wtf

[spark plume]

Look up Bayer HIV medication

[frosty echo]

the christian science monitor
Not listening to someone who doesn't believe in medical care lol

[tawny gorge]

[halcyon glen]

Where is Hank?

[spark plume]

https://tenor.com/view/haaaank-meme-funny-gif-14511381047437346346

[fair bridge]

mods allow political talk now

[blissful kiln]

mods are asleep

[spark plume]

As long as it doesn't devolve into fights

[halcyon glen]

Gachi let’s play darktide

[ember nimbus]

its me on the right btw

[tawny gorge]

yeah true go back to talking about how kaldor draigo is the goat

[ember nimbus]

not on the left

[fair bridge]

wtf diana i wanna play

[ember nimbus]

so its fine

[tawny gorge]

and how veteran is the best class in the game

[spark plume]

Bruh

[fair bridge]

i thought me and you were tight

both smart as hell

[halcyon glen]

Malo

Let’s play darktide

[fair bridge]

both hot as hell

[blissful kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/черный-gif-8284575235000460429

[fair bridge]

both like david bowie as hell

[ancient violet]

I'm an Anarcho-Monarchist with Hegelian analysis 😈

[halcyon glen]

Malo let’s play NOW

[fair bridge]

i actually have to visit my college today 😔

i just felt bad u didnt ask me 👉 👈

[spark plume]

If our earth was discovered by the imperium and wasn't actually old earth, what do you think we would provide as tithe?

NOT big booty latinas

[tawny gorge]

liberal lets play a game, take analysis and remove the last 4 letters

[elder hare]

corpse starch

[blissful kiln]

femboys

[spark plume]

Make an anagram of psychotherapist

[ember nimbus]

we probably have decent gene stock all things considered

[halcyon glen]

Never play

[wanton talon]

Big titty milfs

[ember nimbus]

maybe aspirants

[spark plume]

anarcho-monarchist

Please say sike

[tawny gorge]

why'd psycho do that

[frosty echo]

https://tenor.com/view/tobias-analyst-arrested-development-anal-rapist-gif-12087263

[tawny gorge]

he's jonkiling

[frosty echo]

Wow tenor skimping on the pixels

[wanton talon]

The jonkler in question

[ancient violet]

Sorry I did not consent to GOP

Pull down your pants right now as compensation

[halcyon glen]

Are there any sweet but psycho people people

Here

[spark plume]

I just want the Nordic model imported to more countries

[tawny gorge]

i will piss in your mouth choose what you wish wisely

[fair bridge]

[spark plume]

I LOVE LIVING IN THE TRANSITION PERIOD TO NIGHT CITY

[halcyon glen]

https://tenor.com/view/skyler-white-skylar-white-skyler-skylar-breaking-bad-gif-26489144

[ancient violet]

Pissing and shitting is just a state of mind

Pull your buttstraps

[spark plume]

Whatever country you guys live in though, I can promise you it isn't as bad and corrupt as Indonesia. Well the US is getting there.

[wanton talon]

I wish thee good luck but it won't happen

[spark plume]

We have it in Australia except it's funded by taxation on the populace more than multinational corporations

[tawny gorge]

real black templars dont have time for wife, crusading comes first

[wanton talon]

So you don't have it

[civic otter]

Sigma

[wanton talon]

I have public healthcare and schools where I live, but it's not the nordic model nonetheless

[spark plume]

I mean we have a great standard of living, free or near free healthcare for the poor/middle class, good welfare, a national disability scheme that provides carers and support for the disabled, etc. It could be better but it's pretty good compared to most of the world

[tawny gorge]

Smegma*

[civic otter]

https://tenor.com/view/sigma-andrew-tate-christian-tate-tristan-tate-homelander-gif-4114066347837099301

[wanton talon]

Sure, that's absolutely true

[spark plume]

My time in Indonesia this year and last really opened my eyes

Average person is dirt poor, still taxed to oblivion, politicians fill their own pockets instead of developing infrastructure

[ancient violet]

If you're white 😈

[civic otter]

https://tenor.com/view/my-honest-reaction-senator-armstrong-gif-25946514

https://tenor.com/view/senator-armstrong-armstrong-metal-gear-rising-mgr-speech-bubble-gif-25397532

this is what my political leader looks like

[spark plume]

You're ragebaiting

America has massive Asian, African, Indian and ME communities

[tawny gorge]

do they hate black pipo in australia?

[halcyon glen]

Dance dance dance in the fire

[spark plume]

Errr

Australia

[ancient violet]

Guys

[spark plume]

No? Lol

[tawny gorge]

you wouldnt last a day in armstrongs america

[ancient violet]

Holy shit

America had a huge black population in 1776

[spark plume]

I meant Australia, it was a typo

[ancient violet]

🤯

[ancient violet]

Guys

[tawny gorge]

yes?

[elder hare]

https://tenor.com/view/rage-bait-or-fact-call-it-jjba-gif-4356782155168095918

[civic otter]

i'm albanian, i last anywhere

https://tenor.com/view/albania-albanian-gif-24103016

[tawny gorge]

albanesi mercedesi

[civic otter]

you already know it

[elder hare]

except turkey

[tawny gorge]

https://tenor.com/view/c63-amg-mercedes-kevin-vernal-gif-13922054

[spark plume]

He's gonna bring up stuff that happened two centuries ago as if it represents the modern day

Calling it now

[civic otter]

on my old ass 200000km mercedes, smoking offbrand cigarettes, chugging rakia

[blissful kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/cartman-race-war-south-park-cartoon-animated-gif-5412137

[civic otter]

CRASHING INTO THE POLICE STATION UIEEE

[tawny gorge]

no one wants to last in turkey

[halcyon glen]

Does anyone want to play with me rn

[tawny gorge]

build a wall around that so no one leaves it

[halcyon glen]

I’m a zealot main specialising in the tactical axe

[blissful kiln]

vet taxe > zealot taxe

[tawny gorge]

send build

[blissful kiln]

vet > zealot

[wanton talon]

Oh so you deal no damage, good to know

[civic otter]

this is not tinder man please

[ember nimbus]

caxe > taxe

[halcyon glen]

Noobs

[graceful fern]

So based and true, relationships are temporary, Sigismunds memory is eternal.

[spark plume]

I have never used the combat axe or tactical axe and don't know the difference, and at this point I'm too afraid to ask

[ancient violet]

Back then? Nah I don't need to 😈

[halcyon glen]

They are novices

[rose pine]

https://fxtwitter.com/yrralFisherman/status/1956773256272232901?t=vEC3NFWBfdBACXzvPdLuOw&s=19

florent (@yrralFisherman)

Incredible things are happening in japanese cinema right now

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[ember nimbus]

taxe is quick unga bunga, caxe is slow unga bunga

[elder hare]

Arbies equalizes all unga bunga

[wanton talon]

Combat axes hit hard and are super solid, tac axes are adhd carpal tunnel pieces of crap that deal 0 damage per hit

[tawny gorge]

what type of isekai is this

[halcyon glen]

I says to myself

[ember nimbus]

i still need to try taxe on arby

[halcyon glen]

Woah

What noive

[blissful kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/how-it-feels-when-you-meme-nanami-jjk-gif-10683277372535996893

[rose pine]

It's the one anime that's not an Isekai.

[spark plume]

Frieren?

[wanton talon]

Okay fine maybe I am a bit biased against tac axes

[tawny gorge]

idc most anime is shit, watch Kaiji

[rose pine]

Que the scene of him absolutely smashing up the Femboy.

[tawny gorge]

https://tenor.com/view/kaiji-kaiji-against-all-rules-kaiji-ultimate-survivor-crying-sad-gif-26797315

[rose pine]

Wouldn't know, I dont watch bad series

[spark plume]

JoJo's Bizarre Adventure was great but that was probably because I was chainsmoking bongs while watching it

[tawny gorge]

was?

[civic otter]

it does hurt ur hand but it does gud damage. also SOFT HANDS BROTHERRRR

[tawny gorge]

part 7 is one of the best mangas ever made

[thick fog]

Ah yes, join my first mission and immediately met with mission failed

[rose pine]

Jojo is aight, it's a good comedy though.

[spark plume]

Was, as in I watched parts 1-4 5+ years ago

[wanton talon]

Still is and always has been

[tawny gorge]

still is

[civic otter]

jjba is peak

[blissful kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-swim-in-milk-cat-kitty-milk-milk-cat-gif-23473453

[rose pine]

The amount of stuff they can pull out of their ass is impressive. Top level magician shit.

[wanton talon]

Josuke my beloved

[spark plume]

When the waitress asks which salad you wanted

[civic otter]

https://tenor.com/view/lets-take-ibuprofen-together-bruno-bucciarati-jojo's-bizarre-adventure-jjba-part-5-gif-5681082236471865314

[spark plume]

https://tenor.com/view/caesar-anthonio-zeppeli-jo-jos-bizarre-mad-angry-pissed-gif-15097694

[civic otter]

[tawny gorge]

https://tenor.com/view/steel-bal-run-jojo-jonny-jjba-sbr-gif-27442483

[civic otter]

OH MY GOOOODDD

HOLY SHIIIITTT

[thick fog]

https://tenor.com/view/milker-milk-cat-cute-gif-5179158009406613912

[civic otter]

-joseph

OH NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

OHJHH MAIII GADDDD

[wanton talon]

[tawny gorge]

if you get to the ending of part 7 and you dont think its a 10 out of 10 you have worms eating your brain

[rose pine]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/390310690113454082/1405887566867206224/59a09944fb0ef8c4a6404b8dad5606690b96d368.mov?ex=68a46ad4&is=68a31954&hm=250f82b3cfc0ead2d0806f1c5fb0cf8e002a4990ff324e67e29782a2be110868&

[tired inlet]

SPECIAL->SPECIAL->SPECIAL

[spark plume]

How'd you know I'm RFK

[wanton talon]

I'm not doing that

[tired inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/fallout-we-cant-expect-gif-15199201

[tawny gorge]

cant you people just power sword

[spark plume]

JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
half is filler that can't be called an adventure

[tawny gorge]

?

it has no filler

[civic otter]

https://tenor.com/view/joshua-graham-fallout-fallout-new-vegas-jesus-god-gif-18338326164151763850

[wanton talon]

0 filler

[tawny gorge]

like 0 filler

[elder hare]

https://tenor.com/view/cool-sword-gif-22645353

[jaunty path]

jojo is all filler

there is no adventure

[spark plume]

I'm exaggerating but I loved the alien episode in s4

[rocky moat]

the best melee is helbore actually

[spark plume]

Not actually

It was filler

[tired inlet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omtAVLPUJ0E

[rose pine]

Jojo is a solid 27% filler, but alas, still better than Narutos and One pieces 98%.

[spark plume]

Real

[civic otter]

jojo filler dont even feel like what we're used to calling filler

at least to me all of it was engaging and fun

[wanton talon]

It's not filler, Mikitaka, the alien, is vital to the plot

[tawny gorge]

it doesnt have filler

[rocky moat]

yeah i didnt actually know it had any

[tawny gorge]

it doesnt have filler

[spark plume]

I enjoyed it, I just wanted to use that cat pic

[elder hare]

how else are you gunna get 8k episodes

[tired inlet]

maybe some lip injections

[rocky moat]

yea this is what i thought

[tawny gorge]

filler is for mangas that are still ongoing

[jaunty path]

Minecraft steven universe.

[civic otter]

i thought filler was for divorced women

[tawny gorge]

jojo's anime is adapting stuff that ended

[civic otter]

nvm

[rose pine]

Just thinking of the episodes with the Orangutang, The electric pylon, 30% of every Season 2 episode 😩

[spark plume]

Dio did nothing wrong and is a role model to aspire to

[rose pine]

Still a good series.

[tawny gorge]

he got his ass beat by a 17 year old lmfaooooo

[wanton talon]

Filler is by definition, anime-only content that doesn't move the story forward and exists to give the manga time to progress

[tired inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/dio-wry-jo-jos-bizarre-adventure-gif-5455751

[spark plume]

Burning dogs is a moral imperative

https://tenor.com/view/rage-rage-bait-baited-rage-baited-angry-dog-gif-2047466162835898859

[jaunty path]

We all have our flaws.

[tawny gorge]

and even then there's filler and filler, dbz's filler was written/overseen by toriyama and is great at showing you the charachters expressing themselves

[wanton talon]

Dio really likes sissy squats huh

[rose pine]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1254039371955437570/1280437674766766091/attachment-3.gif?=&width=971&height=563

[spark plume]

All of the characters in JJBA do extremely campy stances

It's part of the charm

[tired inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/chaseconia-mudae-discord-bot-nerd-gif-15689567517289277275

[wanton talon]

It's the name of the exercise

[spark plume]

https://tenor.com/view/jojo-pillar-men-koichi-fifth-pillar-man-leaving-gif-13620115

[wanton talon]

I did not make up the name

[spark plume]

Peak masculinity

[rose pine]

Fun fact, that's how the author got his mark on the world, body language and posturing.

[neat salmon]

Yall think we will get sum special for 3rd year anniversary?

[tawny gorge]

literally

[tired inlet]

#general-chat message

[wanton talon]

My sibling in the god-emperor I have a jojo pfp

[jaunty path]

Men with their bare ass out:

[spark plume]

The lion does not pay attention to pfp's

[jaunty path]

No loin cloth.

[tawny gorge]

they're not campy lol 99% of them come from modeling books

[rose pine]

Ass out, pecks flexing, guns out and proud, bulges in full view

[spark plume]

I meannnn

[rose pine]

Wish I could have my ogryn look like that..

[mental jasper]

one week have past

[halcyon glen]

Chance to strike me down

[wanton talon]

You have a dog pfp, not a lion, checkmate atheist

[mental jasper]

do i take another week off darktide

[elder hare]

lmao an anime about fighting and the creators know nothing about fighting

[tired inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/kenshiro-sunglasses-shades-kenshiro-deal-with-it-fist-of-the-north-star-hokuto-no-ken-glasses-djrobe-gif-7504365154361993071

[spark plume]

I made the mistake of asking Facebook ai to make my dog look sad and it did blackface

[spark plume]

man doing woman model pose
not campy

[wanton talon]

Definitely campy and flamboyant, not a bad thing, but it is true

Araki loves defying gender norms

[spark plume]

I do too, I gluck gluck my homie and then play Halo with him

[rose pine]

Whils your's all fighting over who's the most feminine man of the cast, I'll just go back to worshipping the Granny from Dan Da Dan.

[ember nimbus]

sag hex

[wanton talon]

He's gone on record saying Anasui's design was literally because he wanted a character that transcended gender

[tired inlet]

because JJBA is a 30 year journey that Araki has taken of self-discovery to learn that he's at the very least bisexual.

[tawny gorge]

thats a 3d render
this is what araki drawed

[rocky moat]

that is awesome

[tawny gorge]

campy stands for humourous

[tired inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/madam-bo-conan-the-barbarian-mortal-kombat-mk-1-gif-1258656129436644477

[spark plume]

I'm an anime enjoyer. I never read the manga

[tawny gorge]

that shit looks gangster

[wanton talon]

Minor spelling mistake

[tawny gorge]

which is

[spark plume]

Drawed

Isn't

A

Word

[wanton talon]

That's Meg Thee right?

[ancient violet]

[rose pine]

https://tenor.com/view/dandadan-seiko-ayase-anime-science-saru-turbo-granny-gif-11544664780338360747

[wanton talon]

Aye she loves JoJo

[tawny gorge]

idc

drawed makes sense

[rocky moat]

i just made it a word

checkmate

[tawny gorge]

name 1 good megan thee stalion song

[tired inlet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqmrQKUGrH4

[wanton talon]

I should marry her

[ancient violet]

😏

[spark plume]

I'm gonna propose to my gf next year

[tawny gorge]

show her the political compass

[spark plume]

She wants kids and has told me she wants to marry me

[rose pine]

Introduce her to 40k, and your favorite sect of the marines.

[spark plume]

I already have. She doesn't understand it. She just likes that it makes me happy

[elder hare]

with a detailed breakdown on why Cato Sicarius is your fav

[tired inlet]

"You see honey, the reason they're called the Emperor's Children is..."

[rose pine]

Damn, you haven't just found a GF, you've found a bro for life.

[tawny gorge]

no one likes cato sicarius, show her Kaldor Draigo

[elder hare]

"Blood Angels and Dark Angels are actually from different primarchs, and if you look at Blood Ravens you can tell..."

[rose pine]

" And this is why they call it the 'Emperors fisting', it's a very important lore tidbit "

[spark plume]

I was in the hospital a few days ago and she randomly showed up with homemade food. I hadn't even told her I was in hospital

[wanton talon]

Show her Tu'shan beating up Marines Malevolent

[rose pine]

" This is why you'd like my sector more than whatever your dumbass of an ex liked. "

[spark plume]

I am marrying this woman

[elder hare]

You got this bro

[spark plume]

She also calls me sayang

[tired inlet]

"The Daemonculaba is actually a moral and ethnical imperative when you think about it"

[tawny gorge]

if you tell your gf your favourite chapter is the blueberries you deserve to get dumped

[tawny gorge]

its just a breeding world with extra steps

[lilac crag]

Afternoon, folks

[tawny gorge]

real g's send slaves to steal fertile women

[spark plume]

Real (but they are)

Heresy era ultramarines

[tired inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/conan-power-nofear-gif-7357013

[spark plume]

Not 40k matt ward ultramarine

[elder hare]

"Rouboute Guilliman, that's GUEH-LEE-MAHN, is the best primarch because he focuses on infrastructure and codex, which is something a massive expanse of militaristic theocracy needs to be successful and here is my excel sheet showcasing the different trajectories of successful ecosystems in a sector"

[ember nimbus]

blueberries were actually rad af in the heresy

[tawny gorge]

robot gorillaman

[ember nimbus]

they fought like crazy in the shadow crusade

[wanton talon]

Those guy's arms are huge, wonder if he's some kind of pro bodybuilder

[spark plume]

Way better than modern day um

[tired inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/shoresy-jj-frankie-jj-dolo-hitch-goody-gif-10411945791128960399

[tawny gorge]

are these lads from the uk?

[tired inlet]

Eastern Canada

[spark plume]

Would it be weird to send a pic of me and my future wife at dinner last week?

[tired inlet]

Sudbury Blueberry Bulldogs

[spark plume]

She likes that I'm weird at least

[elder hare]

the goal in life is to find the person who loves or matches your weird

[spark plume]

She's extremely neurotypical and handles my autistic ass like she's a carer. She folded my clothes the other day and I told her not to but she said she wanted to

She wants to be a tradwife and I don't understand it

[elder hare]

Some love languages are care

[ember nimbus]

imagine wanting to fold laundry

that must be bliss

[spark plume]

My room is a bomb site

[ember nimbus]

tell me about it

[spark plume]

Yet I know where everything is

[ember nimbus]

all my clothes are crinkly

[spark plume]

Fuck it I'm gonna dox myself

Wait

[modest flume]

Started a H40 and my computer froze

Good fucking game, Fatshark

[spark plume]

In the face of disconnecting from a H40 lobby, I choose the sweet cold kiss of oblivion

I will be in the garage with my car running

[tired inlet]

I hope you cal pull in the 6+ figure salary to support those performative tiktok weirdos that make fash-bait for a grift because they've all either married millionaires who treat them as property or are selling something to support their hypocrisy

[prisma nymph]

have the devs teased or hinted any upcoming updates?

[spark plume]

What the fuck are you talking about?

She's from Indonesia, she just wants to have a husband and children

[tired inlet]

That isn't what "tradwife" is, dude. Hahahaha.

[elder hare]

i think they mentioned sometime this week

[spark plume]

Well sorry for not being up to date on twitter brainrot, I don't know why you got so assblasted about me having a loving relationship

Smells like envy

[tired inlet]

I've been married for 13 years. You have nothing I will ever envy.

[modest flume]

He's quoting the rhetoric on social media

[lilac crag]

[spark plume]

I literally have only ever heard the term in passing refer to a woman who wants to be a stay at home caretaker and mother and this guy tisms out about Andrew Tate ghosts

[tired inlet]

ignorance is bliss for you. I get it.

[spark plume]

I'm sure engaging with culture war slop makes you very happy, I can tell with how animated you got

[frosty echo]

All this jjba talk about posing and sexuality when araki just wanted to make as many music references as physically possible in every volume

[modest flume]

Unfortunately it's an emerging trend on both ends

[spark plume]

Literally talking about a loving relationship and he goes Gran Autismo about grifters as if everyone is terminally online like him

[frosty echo]

How the fuck was hol horse supposed to be "hall and oates" wtf araki

[tired inlet]

you're very much projecting right now.

[spark plume]

Intellectual property reasons wasn't it?

[tired inlet]

Horses eat oats.

[ancient violet]

Lmao "culture" war?

What is going on? 🍿

Whatever it is keep going 😈

[frosty echo]

Hes hol horse in japanese too iirc and it predates the Prince estate stuff

Could be wrong

[spark plume]

Oh right. I just assumed all of the names were changed for legal reasons

[ancient violet]

Gen Xers on Facebook when they complain about their wife for the 20th time today: 😞

[frosty echo]

Nah they left most of them either because they were different enough or the band approved

[tired inlet]

I'm not that old man; I have like no lead poisoning.

[frosty echo]

The guitarist for King Crimson once posted a lengthy explanation of how the King Crimson stand worked lol

[spark plume]

Being 40 years old minimum and online enough to know about "fash bait grifters" is certainly a feat

[spark plume]

My favourite is still Esidesi

[frosty echo]

I mean you should know about like, prager

[ancient violet]

I'm chronically online

Is Fash baiting like that Jean commercial from 2 weeks ago? 🤔

[frosty echo]

And WHAMMU for wham! Lol

[spark plume]

What's prager, and why should I know about it? Does it hold any relevance to Australia?

[final herald]

what the fuck is happening

[ancient violet]

Me neither

[somber stream]

Things

[ancient violet]

Embrace the Chaos 😈

[final herald]

"pragerU" "tradwife" "chhronically online" bro go play the fucking game

[lilac crag]

hi licht

[spark plume]

Americans trying not to think they're the centre of the world

[frosty echo]

Dennis prager of Prager "U", he is currently trying to invade basically all english speaking school cirricula

[somber stream]

Hello Alex

[spark plume]

I'll have a google but I'm guessing it won't be fun

[tired steeple]

Oh yeah dennis prager sucks balls that guy sucks

[round mica]

Man havoc is hard

[ancient violet]

Australia glazes America all the time, so at least in this context it is 💀

[somber stream]

No kidding, it's endgame content

[lilac crag]

lovely weather ey?

[frosty echo]

Hes not a face forward fashbait grifter hes more of a creeping evil in the dark

[spark plume]

Only because China is breathing down our necks tbh lol

[round mica]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-fist-arthur-憤怒-gif-5794225

Gunners

[somber stream]

Kinda warm but other than that, yes

[ancient violet]

Oh no, you're one of those Australians 💀

[spark plume]

Hey, that's their word

[ancient violet]

I guess Stockholm Syndrome is really a thing 🤔

[somber stream]

Yeah they melts you in 1 volley or two

Hug the walls

[spark plume]

It's why the establishment does though?

[final herald]

the politics stole orcka too

[round mica]

[final herald]

fuck

[tired inlet]

culturally they've deeply adopted the same heretical prosperity gospel evangelical protestantism that seeks absolute theocracy and promotes a form of millenialist dispensationalism to usher in their eschatological deliverence that's poisoned their sociopolitical systems to the core.

[final herald]

WORDS

[spark plume]

I was talking about my girlfriend and someone replied to me talking about fashbait grifters and 6 figure salaries, I didn't even start it

[final herald]

dw I read up this time

[final herald]

but I did get a sudden feeling of deja vu and a "why always this motherfucker"

[lilac crag]

I'd rather have twink talks over this

[spark plume]

My girlfriend giggled when she found out I was bi. I don't know if that means there's pegging in the future

[ancient violet]

I wasn't even the one who said that 😞

[final herald]

did I say you

[lilac crag]

why would I want to know this hugh

[spark plume]

He meant me

[tired inlet]

You are very emotionally fragile to a neutral, declarative statement concerning a term you misused.

[ancient violet]

You said "it's always this guy" 😞

[spark plume]

You don't, I just overshare

[round mica]

No one needed to know that

[final herald]

Hugh. It's always Hugh.

💀

[ancient violet]

Lukewarm takes? 🤔

[spark plume]

You're right

[spark plume]

Hot take, FatShark should charge even more for cosmetics

[final herald]

random political yap-talk in the gen-chat full of melt-mind and other blargh

[tired inlet]

the mature, adult response would have been: "ooh, then she's not that then."

[somber stream]

Pol talk every once in a while is fun

But it's come to the point when it's daily

[little marten]

NO POLITICS

[ancient violet]

They told me unironically to read Ayn Rand earlier

I thought it was funny 💀

[somber stream]

Tone it down a bit fellas

[ancient violet]

Finally someone with dignity

[spark plume]

You didn't elaborate on what one was. You said I better have a six figure salary for her?

[somber stream]

Oh hi Nurgle, how was Hamburg?

[spark plume]

You were antagonistic

[lilac crag]

that's cus people can't fathom the idea of opinions, only what they believe in

we've gone down the drain

[little marten]

Lots of sausage and beer.. too much perhaps. Will recover fully by tomorrow.

Also hello

[lilac crag]

Hi nurgle

[final herald]

isn't that the "objectivism" lady

[lilac crag]

missed ya bud

[final herald]

I don't know much about her

[tired inlet]

then you didn'tr ead the full statement; you got heated and have been persistently upset and getting yourself more and more upset in a negative feedback loop.

[somber stream]

Sounds about right, and a proper good time, too. Rest well

[spark plume]

I suggested he read a vast array of different political authors to broaden his scope, not because I agree with them

[tired inlet]

yes; she invented objectivism. She was a massive hypocrit. The only good thing that came from it was Neal pert from Rush, who lived and died as an objectivist.

[little marten]

The problem with the politics talk is also that its isn’t a conversation so much as people listing their views and college textbook knowledge at one another without the ebb and flow and learning of the actual convo

[spark plume]

How is German beer? I've only ever had Heineken slop

[ember nimbus]

heineken is not german

[little marten]

It’s good!

[spark plume]

The trap of not actually wanting to reach a middle ground a lot of the time

[tired inlet]

Beck's is a lot like Heinekin, my mothewr tells me; doesn't have the aftertaste that the Belgian lager has.

[ancient violet]

Dam he called Heineken German

[spark plume]

Heineken is Belgian?

[ember nimbus]

dutch

[little marten]

Too good I probably won’t touch beer now for a month 🤮

[tired inlet]

I was ad the Heinekin Brewery in Amsterdam like a month ago. C'mon

[round mica]

Heineken is good

[spark plume]

I don't fucking know, I'm on the other side of the world. The only good beer we get here is Australian craft beer

[round mica]

Especially the stuff from europe

[ancient violet]

Germans are many things, but don't ever say they are shitty with beer

[little marten]

Amstel better

[somber stream]

German
Bad beer

Pick one

[final herald]

beer
good
no

[round mica]

I do enjoy kingfisher tho

[spark plume]

It's an acquired taste same as coffee or human flesh

[final herald]

coffee at least has a purpose in my life and I can make it taste good with sugars and creams

[spark plume]

There is nothing better than an ice cold beer on a stinking hot day

[final herald]

bear is the blood of tradition and failed marraiges

[little marten]

All the prostitutes just floating around in leggings and grey hoodies lmao

[final herald]

you mean other than like any other ice cold beverage

[spark plume]

drinking coffee with sugar and creamer
Do you want Dino nuggies too?

[elder hare]

https://tenor.com/view/improvise-adapt-overcome-bear-grylls-gif-10468556

[lilac crag]

you

[final herald]

those are usually too dry sorry

I prefer my chicken juicy

[somber stream]

You're "Married", don't cheat

[elder hare]

you offering? I'm fucking hungry

[lilac crag]

hold on now, why's this gotta be romantic

[spark plume]

I'm unfortunately extremely snobby about coffee because my dad owned a Cafe and I've been a barista on and off for years. You can drink it however you want but I will judge you.

[final herald]

if you owned a fucking cafe then why the fuck are you snobby about putting shit in it

its YOUR JOB to PUT SHIT IN IT

[little marten]

Just milk pls

[spark plume]

Creamer is an American thing. We use milk. Creamer is vegetable oil and flavouring

[final herald]

"uuuugh I wish I could drink this seed-tea pure"

• statements devised by the clinically inept

[lilac crag]

i love my coffee the way you hate it the most

simple as

[tired inlet]

I don't really drink coffee; but I do like a can of those V8 Orange/Pineapple juices

[spark plume]

Room temperature with 6 sugars

[elder hare]

you leave my warmed bean juice, milk, and sugar mixture alone

[final herald]

I put honey and stuff in mine

[lilac crag]

double the temperature and sugar, give it to the next person

[spark plume]

creamer
milk
Pick one

[elder hare]

No I double dip

Fuck you and the establishment

[little marten]

Guys serious question

[spark plume]

I have an espresso machine at home too

I can't drink instant or drip coffee

[little marten]

Did dawn of war come out in pc gamepass?

[lilac crag]

no clue big man

sorry

[little marten]

😔

[civic otter]

Augustiner is always a solid choice imo, but i really like czech beer myself. they've got a few popular ones with kozel being my favorite

[spark plume]

You are right in a way though @final herald

Most beer is actually shit

[somber stream]

Buy, it's dirt cheap

[spark plume]

We have none of those here

[somber stream]

30% off for OG DoW owners

[civic otter]

sad

[little marten]

Oohh

[somber stream]

Like, 17 euro

[spark plume]

I will drink any beer except for stout. I cannot stand it. I dunno why

[little marten]

So Hamburg airport to center train is $2

[final herald]

I have given beer. Many. Many chances.

I don't want to need to wait for the sun to reach hit's highest point and be slightly disapointed with life and have LITERALLY NOTHING ELSE on hand to go "Hey, this is kind of okay."

[little marten]

London airport to city is £25

[somber stream]

Why haven't you lot pick up the pitchfork yet

[little marten]

Not the London airport airport sorry one of them

[final herald]

Beer is the spawn of tradition and water purification practices not being solved yet

[little marten]

I’m ready Dw

[spark plume]

If you don't enjoy slight bitterness you just won't enjoy it

And that's fine

It's like liking chilli or not

[final herald]

Chili is good though

[spark plume]

So is beer

[final herald]

nah

[lilac crag]

What Works For Me Should Work For You kind of talk

[civic otter]

yeah fair. i'm more of a wine guy but when i get to drink beer i make sure to pick something i know i'll like, i think that the reason why many people can't seem to enjoy beer or just see it as mid is because they have not tried enough yet, which is understandable because different countries different cultures. But if one has really tried, i guess they just don't like beer

[spark plume]

Neurodivergent American learns about subjectivity 2025 colourised

[final herald]

you don't speak in subjectivity

I am lowering myself to your standard

[spark plume]

I prefer wine for the most part but I don't like getting drunk, and if I buy a bottle of red I'm drinking the whole thing

[little marten]

Feel sorry for the dudes that have spent their lives forcing themself to like one particular beer because all their friends pretend to like it too

[civic otter]

getting drunk is either a young phase or an old addicton, neither are good

[elder hare]

if my beer cant double for a thick stew then i dont want it

[spark plume]

Real. I just drink 2 or 3 beers most of the time for the taste and a very mild buzz

[final herald]

This is why I am so fucking glad I am basically immune to peer pressure

[civic otter]

it's how it usually goes lol, social pressure is a bitch and i hope people stop giving in to it someday, it sucks

[final herald]

My dad's mentor was big on brewing and we have a ton of breweries and importers around here in general

[lilac crag]

do your chores rn

[elder hare]

what about seer pressure, the warp is incredibly convincing

[lyric badger]

Are you a hairy tick

[final herald]

and every single time I have said "Damn this is shit" and watched the happiness melt off of their fucking faces

[round mica]

The way you speak of beer doesn't sound like you even like it hugh

[civic otter]

i tried that but i grew an extra arm.... on my left leg

[spark plume]

Beer is good but most beer is mass produced sludge

[final herald]

I only need to make my bed today

[jaunty path]

we need bully hunter servitors

[spark plume]

It's like saying you don't like burgers because you don't like mcdonalds burgers

[somber stream]

I prefer milk over coffee and beer tbh

Like, just milk

[final herald]

It is. Just makes me wanna bust.

[civic otter]

you also need to make a future for yourself

[elder hare]

This is a direct result of the human condition though, for the entirety of human societal development we have always been an "in group/out group" species where the outliers were usually punished with eviction, which historically resulted in death

[final herald]

But I resist...

[final herald]

tru

[spark plume]

@civic otter there are some really good small breweries in Australia but they probably don't import there

[jaunty path]

what do you mean? you prefer cow lactation over caffeine and brain inhibition? How could you?

[round mica]

I'll enjoy most beers If given them but have a few specific brands I'll stick w , there not sludge

[jaunty path]

I am glad I do not have alochol

[elder hare]

no drunk im officer not

[final herald]

oh hey @civic otter you're the one who @lilac crag said was gonna play w/ us

[jaunty path]

I would've downed it by now.

[final herald]

no ociffer it's "High how are you"

[lyric badger]

Like I always say, a moment spent with you is better than an eternity in bliss

[jaunty path]

I should buy a lot of seltzer water.

[somber stream]

Oh make no mistake, due to the nature of my work. I'm forced to down caffeine every day. Milk is just the preference

[civic otter]

oh yeah for sure, reduce such cases would be a better word but my man i personally could not care less i've completely given up on the "group" part. i only get one life, i'll do it my way and if someone does the same, +1 friend i know is a real one.

[round mica]

I mean without cookies even??!

[final herald]

https://tenor.com/view/signalis-signalis-hello-signalis-eule-eule-hello-gif-1600101692068230530

[somber stream]

That goes with hot choco

I don't like cookie in my milk, actually

[civic otter]

yes, i am on more frequently at night but either way i'll add you to make plans

[round mica]

What do you have w your milk?

[somber stream]

Uh

cigarette

[final herald]

the bat templar

[spark plume]

One of my friends is a beekeeper and I'm thinking of fermenting some mead in the summer

[lyric badger]

Breakfast burrito time

[spark plume]

Fat chance, but

Anyone have any experience with brewing?

[final herald]

this answer feels so fucking german

[civic otter]

i like dark angels equally if that's any consolation

[spark plume]

Coffee and cigarette better

[little marten]

Elite

[civic otter]

also what the fuck cigarettes with milk sounds like hell

[civic otter]

yes

[lyric badger]

Cigs and a monster fo the work lunch fo today

[jaunty path]

eat better lps.

[final herald]

drink milk
smoke
shit
get out of bed

[jaunty path]

pls.

[spark plume]

Jeffrey Dahmers will destroy you heart

[somber stream]

https://tenor.com/view/you-wo-joker-joaqu-gif-23924191

[spark plume]

https://tenor.com/view/white-monster-wmster-monster-energy-monster-energy-drink-monkey-gif-15628061433413475006

[lyric badger]

He can't cause idk him

[civic otter]

it is a diharrea potion tbh

[spark plume]

White monster

[lyric badger]

Never had one

[final herald]

I should play war thunder

[civic otter]

true. i've never actually mixed cigs with anything. when i did smoke it was just mouth drying simulator but worth it cause it quelled my peril

[spark plume]

Monster in general

[lyric badger]

Never had one :)

[spark plume]

Wha

[elder hare]

bro if psykers smoked weed would they be able to handle more warp peril?

[lyric badger]

A joke. A meme if you will

[spark plume]

What's a meme

[somber stream]

My old man always dip the filter bit into his drink before smoking it. Said it "give taste" to the smoke

[spark plume]

No, it would make them paranoid

[somber stream]

Not all the way, just the tip

[jaunty path]

Question

[lyric badger]

Huh

[jaunty path]

why do we eat corpse starch in the imperium,.

[somber stream]

Of the cigarette

[final herald]

I accept drugs (done by others) that serve some sort of purpose and don't really have a worthwhile alternative (if that makes sense)

Which is in turn why I consider beer bottom teir because there's so many other good alcoholic drinks out there

[spark plume]

[frosty echo]

i remember unsanctioned psykers smoking lho and obscura to take the edge off in some novels

[elder hare]

https://tenor.com/view/dodgeball-patches-urine-pee-sterile-gif-14529545

[jaunty path]

When we can skip that whole process and just eat meat off the bone

[civic otter]

they would be calmer which would be a positive to their focus, but it depends. if they are stoned then it's GGs for the entire accompanying squad

[jaunty path]

Fuck you meat fryer.

[lyric badger]

Aye aye sir/ma'am

[round mica]

Lho is the imperiums tobacco iirc?

[thick coyote]

Yuh

[lilac crag]

SIGNALIIIIIIIISS

[civic otter]

actually onto something, we do have flavored cigs in albania the same way, but we do it with little flavor capsules at the very start of the filter, same idea.

[final herald]

planet full of psykers hallucinating snakes so hard that real warp snakes rained from the sky

[spark plume]

Closer to weed because it's a slight narcotic

[elder hare]

there are strains that arent psychoactive and could just work as a downer/calmant

[spark plume]

They have a tobacco analogue but I can't remember the name

[round mica]

Oh we have these here too menthol ones

[elder hare]

Lho sticks my bad saw you responded earlier*

[wanton talon]

Tobacco more like crap

[final herald]

a long time ago I drew a signalis boythhing for my boyfriend

[civic otter]

yeah. i don't know much about weed but i have heard

[civic otter]

true and based though

[somber stream]

The drink enhance the taste, i agree. Tried and true.

However if you've quit (I think you did) then best ignore me lol

[wanton talon]

If there are 10 tobacco haters I am one of them, if there are no tobacco haters I am dead

[spark plume]

No, it's more like weed. When Eisenhorn and Nayl smoke lho sticks posing as mutants in a seedy bar, they inject themselves with anti-narcotic/anti-intoxicating injections

[final herald]

I will never smoke and despise smoking but like there really isn't a replacement for cigs on a construction site

[spark plume]

You do not need to do that with tobacco

[civic otter]

not that kinda guy lol, i can continue to talk and all, when i make up my mind on something it's done. but yeah it does help. i mean, i'd argue jagermeister and marlboro red are my favorite zone out in random pub mix

now it's just jager though

not the cig part

[wanton talon]

There is, it's not smoking

[spark plume]

I don't know where the perception that lho is tobacco came from but if you read Black Library books it literally intoxicates you. Nicotine does not

[somber stream]

Good man, i bid thee a long and healthy life

[final herald]

unfortunately the type of people who need to smoke tend to need to smoke or they become the most insufferable twats ever

[civic otter]

you too brother

[wanton talon]

Because they have a chemical addiction lmao

[spark plume]

That's called substance addiction. Now compare it to meth addicts not getting a fix

[marsh iris]

i heard pegging

[round mica]

Damn congrats iv tried to quit so many times dude tried patches gum ,vapes it truly is a curse

[fiery wave]

Is more like a funni illegal plant rolled up.

[final herald]

you'd be surprised

[spark plume]

American discovers addiction

[spark plume]

Based and lorepilled

[civic otter]

Not all smokers but always smokers. i could keep calm for days/weeks, but emotionally i was more unstable i just hid it well

[wanton talon]

Surprised how? Nicotine is extremely addictive

[spark plume]

Some studies point to it being more addictive than heroin

Ease of access doesn't help

[round mica]

Harder to quit isn't it

[marsh iris]

im chemmed

[spark plume]

Incredibly

[civic otter]

where i live tobacco is given to anyone with money lmao

[final herald]

I'd go into my experience with various people who'd started in my presence or quit and the difference was pretty vast between even "who they are" and who they were after smoking

[round mica]

No I mean than heroin

[spark plume]

Look up addiction withdrawal

[final herald]

started in my presence

boondocks read gif

[spark plume]

Oh yeah it is. Not physically. You can die from heroin withdrawal. But mentally yes

[little marten]

Because the industry reinforces the idea of nicotine withdrawal being this horrid rancid experience. Thus it’s easy to create a worse spiral on restraint/quitting. In reality it’s about 3 days of shit time and then a case of just rewiring your routine.

[wanton talon]

Tobacco is just often used as a coping mechanism by people with anxiety and/or depression, but in fact even worsens those conditions

[spark plume]

Depends how long you've smoked. I know people who have smoked for 40 years. Their withdrawal is hell compared to someone who smoked for 6 months

[civic otter]

yeah, letting go of a strong habit does change you, if that's what you mean. In a way i am thankful or these addictions i had and let go of, they gave me fortitude and experience against them

[somber stream]

So, quitting when

[little marten]

Before Christmas 🙏

[spark plume]

Nicotine was the hardest drug I ever quit

[somber stream]

[civic otter]

unironically, took me a month of on and off. stress, anger for the most part. after that, 5 consecutive days of no smoking and before i knew it that was the end

[final herald]

both that AND people starting it in the first place. I used to do a lot of manual labor in general so they were a dime a dozen.

[civic otter]

yeah

[spark plume]

I had a manic episode triggered when I quit smoking

[civic otter]

nic is pretty rough yeah

[final herald]

a lot of people end up both starting and using cigs as a crutch for who they "are," kind of like alcohol at a party

[round mica]

Yeah ppl don't realise it's not just the chemicals your processing shit

[spark plume]

I used to do ketamine and mdma and those were easy to stop

[final herald]

but in this case it's at work

[spark plume]

When I was in my late teens

[round mica]

And then you suddenly take that processing away

[wanton talon]

It's a drug

[fiery wave]

Honestly, those who do manage tend to be stronger in the end for it.

[final herald]

how insightful

[round mica]

And combine thar w the craving you get very snappy

[spark plume]

A lot of people don't understand addiction

[wanton talon]

Drug addictions tend to have mental factors involved in them

Tobacco and alcohol are no exception

[final herald]

did I say they didn't

[spark plume]

Gambling and pr0n addiction is neurologically identical in terms of symptoms to substance addiction

[wanton talon]

You did not

[spark plume]

It's a neurological condition

[round mica]

Alchohols probably the most harmful drug of them all

[civic otter]

it's pretty sad to see tbh. greatest thing i ever did in my life is giving up the shallow "personality" role we have here in albania as a society. giving in to all my weird whims and hobbies. i actually have fun now, for once.

[round mica]

It's available

[final herald]

are you speaking to me or are you speaking to some version of me who doesn't know this

[wanton talon]

At a societal level, it is

[final herald]

THIS

THIS

FUCK

THIS IS WHAT I AM EXPLAINING

[jaunty path]

You can also become like. Physically dependent on alochol

[tropic sorrel]

@wanton talon no, physically

[civic otter]

[jaunty path]

As in if you stop drinking, you could die.

[tropic sorrel]

It's one of the few things you can die from withdrawals

[jaunty path]

You could literally drink yourself into life support

[spark plume]

Your body will get all of its carbs from it and you'll die if you stop cold turkey

Happened to my friend'sdad

[round mica]

Alchohol also causes so much violence everywhere

[elder hare]

most deaths as a result of substance abuse from alcohol too

[wanton talon]

Tobacco is worse generally last I checked, but I could be wrong

[civic otter]

https://tenor.com/view/she-just-like-me-she-chainsawman-denji-like-me-gif-4549364741440613099

[jaunty path]

It is so fucked up how that can happen. Is there even a remedy for it?

[tropic sorrel]

I promise you it's worse

[spark plume]

Yes, benzos and tapering off

[halcyon glen]

Has anyone been to love me avenue

[spark plume]

Maybe not benzos? Some meds

[wanton talon]

Alcohol causes widespread societal harm, vehicle accidents, domestic abuse, etc

[spark plume]

Alcohol causes more harm but tobacco related illness costs the taxpayer more IIRC

[jaunty path]

Wrong, Alochol turns me into a philosophical genius.

[tropic sorrel]

You can quit tobacco by using zyns

https://tenor.com/view/big-brain-gif-27108854

[civic otter]

my god

please no substitutes

[somber stream]

🫵

[civic otter]

[jaunty path]

You can always replace an addiction with another.

[civic otter]

yeah lmfao

[wanton talon]

Therefore tobacco causes greater individual harm

[somber stream]

Mother fucker you only walk in the game

[round mica]

Substitutes were always the worst lmao

[spark plume]

On a macro level, yes. In extreme cases, no

[wanton talon]

Sure, but extreme cases are not super relevant statistically

[fair bridge]

got new airpods

they're kinda sick

[civic otter]

whoever said quitting cold turkey is harmful is lying to keep you in the addiction rat race

[spark plume]

There are smokers who live to 90. No drinking every day alcoholic lives past 60

[tropic sorrel]

You can quit drinking vodka on the freeway from big gulp cups by switching to twisted teas too

[elder hare]

the secret is to be addicted to painting warhammer minis, so you wont have money left for drugs or alcohol

[spark plume]

Not harmful, just hard lol

[civic otter]

for sure

[final herald]

I hate when convos are like

nuanced opinion borne solely through experience
"lol you lack experience [starts explaining basically what you already said]"

[spark plume]

Wait, do you mean alcohol?

[civic otter]

everything tbh

[wanton talon]

Smokers who live to 90 are extremely rare and basically tobacco propaganda lol

[spark plume]

Quitting alcohol cold turkey literally kills people dude

[tropic sorrel]

Addicted to online gambling? Have you tried just gambling in casinos instead?

[spark plume]

Like if they drink everyday

[jaunty path]

Yall are forgetting the most painful part of quitting shit like cigs and beer

[spark plume]

Quitting benzos cold turkey will kill you too

[jaunty path]

withdrawal.

[round mica]

Quitting smokes cold turkey

[halcyon glen]

Bad

[elder hare]

ease of access becomes the fulcrum at this point

[fiery wave]

That depends. I know some split it up so they get both.

[round mica]

But alchohol and benzos if you have been taking it for like 15+ years will kill you

[spark plume]

Smokes can be quit cold turkey, it's just a little difficult. Doing it with alcohol or benzos will literally kill you

[spark plume]

Exactly

[wanton talon]

Also depends, you can be an alcoholic and drink 1 glass of wine a day technically afaik

[spark plume]

You will never die from quitting cigarettes, I'll put it that way

[elder hare]

fair

[jaunty path]

I don't think it'll hurt you that bad to have a single glass of wine daily.

[spark plume]

It's definitely bad for you but not as bad as smoking for most people

[round mica]

Nah that's actually healthy

Anti oxidants

[tropic sorrel]

@wanton talon stop worrying about semantics, there's actual physical symptoms from alcohol withdrawal like seizures, hallucinations, naseua, etc

[jaunty path]

So more wine means more health. noted.

[civic otter]

in more specific cases i'm not sure, but then again if an individual has reached that level of addiction they're already consulting with a medical expert before doing anything of the sort i'm guessing

[round mica]

Alcoholics drink so much they get sick or can't eat / won't eat to drink more

[spark plume]

Antioxidants in red wine are good but it doesn't outweigh the toxicity of consuming ethanol daily

[wanton talon]

Sure but that's a mechanistic phenomenon, and it's in truth a small part of the dangers of alcohol

[spark plume]

Yes, but cigarettes will literally never kill you if you quit them

[round mica]

Like a small glass of wine is really not much ?

[tropic sorrel]

@spark plume I drink a box of wine daily because it's good for my heart

[spark plume]

No amount of alcohol is safe to consume according to all contemporary research

[fair bridge]

i think i have Freak Ears or something

[round mica]

I'm not meaning a huge glass full just a like 3/4 mouthful is what a glass is

[fair bridge]

my right ear is like malformed or some shit

why the hole smaller than my left hole

[jaunty path]

One gallon of wine per day

[round mica]

Oh man I guess not

[spark plume]

Any amount of alcohol greatly increases your risk of various cancers as well as damaging your liver metabolising it. It's literally poison dude. Getting drunk is being impaired from a toxin

[round mica]

Maybe do it weekly if you worried about being healthy

Me personally I drink and I drink alot

[fiery wave]

Why 1 glass sure, 1 bottle is bad.

[round mica]

1 glass doesn't get you wasted tho

[jaunty path]

I drink whenever my dad buys

[round mica]

And if your having water it can't be that bad

[spark plume]

Any amount is bad, the 1 glass of red wine good research is like nearly 2 decades old and has been superseded by various studies

I still drink

Just don't pretend ethanol isn't literally poison

[elder hare]

So bread is poison too, damnit all my favs

[spark plume]

Lolwut

[jaunty path]

2 cups in and I'm gone.

[fiery wave]

Is more. Limited amount is one thing, some use it to cope with life. Overdose, in sense, is always really bad.

[tropic sorrel]

He's posting cope I fear

[round mica]

Ethanol in alchohol is very different compared to actual ethanol though its waaaay lower %

[final herald]

my dad still quotes the "1 glass good" shit

[tropic sorrel]

It's literally the same chemical

[spark plume]

If you're drinking arsenic diluted to 5% with water you're still drinking arsenic

[halcyon glen]

Sailing over Coney Island

[jaunty path]

Let me drink muh damned poison in peace

[halcyon glen]

Twinkle twinkle uncle Floyd

[jaunty path]

Don't need you liberals complaining

[final herald]

[jaunty path]

Twilight Sparkle is my wife.

[round mica]

🤷‍♂️

[jaunty path]

what if I put more water in.

[tropic sorrel]

If you are going to drink it's stupid to pretend it's risk free because you don't like the truth, no one is saying never drink

[jaunty path]

then 1% arsenic..

[tired inlet]

like, in Rippongi, or like, Texas Street

or Soi Cowboy

[jaunty path]

if beer is poisonous, than so are cigarettes

[spark plume]

It's like the meme about weed smokers coping when someone says it's unhealthy but cigarette smokers are like "I know "

[jaunty path]

and it's not...

my lungs are nice and healthy

[wanton talon]

That's not news to anyone

[round mica]

I dont think anyone here claimed it to be risk free 🤔

[final herald]

it's bait balsco

[halcyon glen]

As in packs of dogs

[final herald]

it's fucking bait

[elder hare]

https://tenor.com/view/rage-bait-or-fact-call-it-jjba-gif-4356782155168095918

[jaunty path]

big inhale

COUGHGFUHGUHFUHGHGH SPITS OUT BLOOD

[wanton talon]

Oops

[final herald]

ffs

[wanton talon]

Sorry I am a bit acoustic

[final herald]

I CAN TELL

[spark plume]

I'm posting this every day

[wanton talon]

Sorry fam

[final herald]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/339337727541772289/1405142093722030192/AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.gif

[tropic sorrel]

I was thinking about the person on their 6th glass of wine going on about how good it is for your heart like the pothead friend who borrowed $10 from you to smoke the 4th time that day going on about how it's OK because Obama smoked weed

[wanton talon]

It's not intentional, runs in the family

[spark plume]

Same and I use slurs to refer to myself

[jaunty path]

I loooooove me some cig ettes.

[round mica]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-crazy-no-stare-insane-gif-15932475392841589612

[spark plume]

Although I wouldn't call it a slur

[jaunty path]

Cigs aint hurt nobody

[spark plume]

It's just a shortened form of aspergers

[spark plume]

Real

[jaunty path]

it's only weak people who be shown hurt by the cigs..

[wanton talon]

Try smoking via your butt, more effective

[jaunty path]

TRUE

[wheat sphinx]

Oi you want a ciggy mate?

[jaunty path]

how do I inhale with my ass

[tired inlet]

Magnus the Red shouting "Bird-up!" every time he summons a Lord of Change would be a good thing

[spark plume]

Very nice, now say the British word for cigarette

[final herald]

the only benefit I can give cigs is they make the idiot on the backhoe not be MORE of an idiot on the backhoe

[round mica]

Aspergers isn't even a thing anymore

[wheat sphinx]

No.

[tropic sorrel]

When I'm in a denial contest and my opponent is a guy who spends their entire paycheck on weed and says it isn't addictive

[round mica]

It was taken out the book

[final herald]

I just wish the MF didn't get to the point of being untrustworthy w/ o them to begin with

[tropic sorrel]

https://tenor.com/view/shookt-shocked-surprised-pass-out-faints-gif-15673867

[spark plume]

That guy used to be me at 19. Weed is cancer

[round mica]

It's all called autism spectrum now officially

[spark plume]

I am so much more productive without it

Stoners are so fucking dumb lol

Like, not inherently

It just makes you so stupid

[halcyon glen]

https://tenor.com/view/come-on-caine-john-wick-chapter-4-jw4-bring-it-on-gif-2067989737494689730

[final herald]

if someone is smoking a doobie on the worksite I am probably leaving the worksite

[elder hare]

it's that same factor that fights terrible anxieties and PTSD tho

[jaunty path]

I feel people are doing the same with saying "weed isn't addictive"

[spark plume]

I'd rather a forklift driver be smoking meth than weed

[tropic sorrel]

@spark plume like anything when you get down to it it's the attitudes surrounding it, too many people who use thc act like it's a magic drug that has zero consequences whatsoever

[tired inlet]

sure he can shoot John Wick, but can he see what kids love about Cinnamon Toast Crunch?

[wanton talon]

I had a classmate in uni who stupefied himself by smoking weed in his room all day, just no thoughts, head empty

[final herald]

unironically

[jaunty path]

it is a magic drug with no consequences

[tropic sorrel]

@wanton talon not addictive though

[halcyon glen]

Calling sister midnight

[spark plume]

"It cures everything bro, I don't even have anxiety" says the man who starts sweating and being snappy when he runs out of bud

[round mica]

Weeds mentally addictive

[wanton talon]

So true bro I can quit anytime

[round mica]

That's not true

[final herald]

the meth-head isn't going to do something idiotic unless heh's legit strung out

[tropic sorrel]

https://tenor.com/view/poong-poongtang-cat-eating-cat-namhee-psd-gif-4771137644739568446

[jaunty path]

Ya mamas mentally addictive

[round mica]

Have you met many meth heads?

[final herald]

yes

[wanton talon]

Says the person who had anxiety before weed even made it worse in most cases

[final herald]

at work, they're usually on some sort of dosage and typically doing like 3x the work of everyone else

[tropic sorrel]

I've taken the subway before, yes

[spark plume]

Most are functional. You only notice the ones experiencing a psychotic episode.

[round mica]

They are the most stupid you can get , going 100 miles an hour but really there not getting anything done

[wanton talon]

Okay so meth = good?

[spark plume]

Seriously, many functional people use meth. You only notice the ones who went off the deep end

[final herald]

no

[round mica]

There just as bad as a pothead

[final herald]

not even remotely

[wanton talon]

Gonna start doing meth

[tropic sorrel]

@wanton talon it makes you more productive

[final herald]

no but uppers is more tolerable on a job than downers in my experience

[wanton talon]

I don't want to be more productive

[spark plume]

No, but it isn't as immediately debilitating as weed or alcohol

[round mica]

Meth heads ate not productive at all

[spark plume]

You're fine until you mentally snap

That's stimulants

[round mica]

Even when they are high

[wanton talon]

Being productive when it doesn't net me more money is goofy

[jaunty path]

Yea. weed is worse

[tired inlet]

Meth is still Slaanesh; Krokodil is Nurgle.

[spark plume]

Tell that to truck drivers using it to drive 18 hours

[wanton talon]

Noted

[elder hare]

Maybe we shouldn't have 18 hour drive shifts

[tropic sorrel]

Oh yeah? Explain adderall

[round mica]

Dude I have family members that have been in and out of prison addicted to meth

[final herald]

my life with adhd

[tired inlet]

they put too much of it in pre-workout

[spark plume]

I agree, it's just a lie to say it can't make you productive

[drowsy lynx]

What about nurgle's jenkem?

[tired inlet]

goes without saying

[elder hare]

thats like saying "alcohol helps me sleep" I mean sure but that doesn't negate the life changing consequences of using it atypically

[final herald]

I need to start vyvanse but my doctor "does not beleive" in adhd because he's old and stupid

[round mica]

It's a big reason i don't talk to alot of my family I had to grow up around it

[tropic sorrel]

The meth heads in my old neighborhood were very productive when it came to stealing everything out unlocked cars and leaving trash inside

[jaunty path]

DID SOMEONE SAY JENKEM?

[spark plume]

I'm not defending meth? Lol? I'm just saying there are plenty of functional meth users until they get too deep in the addiction and snap

[jaunty path]

I LOVE JENKEM!

[final herald]

of course not, but we (me) and hugh were mainly talking about how it's like to work with the people who have already decided to fuck up their own life

[round mica]

It starts functional yes

But a year or two in

[jaunty path]

https://tenor.com/view/jenkem-chicken-jockey-jack-black-minecraft-movie-minecraft-gif-10424918688206760465

[round mica]

And they have holes in their brains

[spark plume]

Now I know how you felt with the smoking discussion

[round mica]

They are literally stupid

[tired inlet]

meth is fun to make as a chemist in SS13 (you can also get special mushrooms for LSD); same with jenkem (requires toilet water specifically); then you go to the galley and inject it into the bread

[round mica]

You forget meth is always laced w cut

[final herald]

I try so hard not to go full chihuahua

[round mica]

Which can fucking be anything

[elder hare]

my b, misunderstood the post and emotion responded

[tropic sorrel]

Fellas turns out drugs are bad

[spark plume]

Mdma is better than meth anyway. Not physically addictive and it makes everything orgasmic

Still neurotoxic though

[round mica]

Mdma is addictive as fuck

[tired inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/blue-ringed-octopus-primal-survivor-venomous-octopus-toxic-gif-19439664

[round mica]

It's meths cousin

[elder hare]

lmao remember when they made heroin as a counter to meth

[spark plume]

I used it just fine going out clubbing once a month or every other month and only used it probably 4 or 5 times in my life and never felt a pressing need to use it.

[tropic sorrel]

Pill that makes shitty edm sound like angels welcoming you into heaven? Not addictive