#general-chat

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tired inlet
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I think if they got multiple charges like veteran it'd be neat, but a concentration stim with it is fun times

thick coyote
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*With Master Crafted

slow canyon
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no, shroud

slow canyon
rose pine
thick coyote
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Real Shroud users use Perfectionist

simple drum
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You cant even get that far in 5 seconds

thick coyote
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(definitely not on my name)

tired inlet
maiden mortar
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How do I fix this Ogryn problem with crashing? I don't have pickaxe equipped. No cosmetic, nothing. I can't even go into the Psykhanium without immediately crashing. Literally can't play anything.

Any suggestions?

harsh oak
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any time I look into this channel everybody fucking shits on every class except like ogryn or arbites

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lol

simple drum
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If you need 5 seconds of invisibility

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Your already fucked

inland mantle
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Hate to sound mean but that build is well not very good if you want a good invis build ask in the zealot chat

harsh oak
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I did

maiden mortar
harsh oak
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they said don't throw a game

tired inlet
harsh oak
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and make people suffer

simple drum
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Unless your walking jnto a fight and not tryna end one

thick coyote
slow canyon
thick coyote
stable fox
stable fox
harsh oak
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ok but like listening to you I start to think that there are no good classes

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what about psyker

hollow depot
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The shotgun changes haven't been implemented in this update have they?

inland mantle
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No zealot is crazy good

thick coyote
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(don't need 5 seconds to get someone up)

simple drum
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I shoulda been a pskyer

inland mantle
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shroud is not

slow canyon
thick coyote
simple drum
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I woulda been op but i cant lie

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The zealot dashes save lives

simple drum
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Especially mine

harsh oak
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I thought top 2 now are arbites and ogryn

tired inlet
simple drum
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Literally i have defied death so many times cuz pf zealots dash

inland mantle
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The I frames on fury is so nice

simple drum
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Even just now i literally survived crushed ragers mobs etc

stable fox
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This is why i prefer 20+ Havoc. Because I don't have a need to tryhard too much.

simple drum
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And ues i almost died

thick coyote
stable fox
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I'm still at 20 clearance anyway.

harsh oak
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top 1 is what then?

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zealot?

thick coyote
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Ogryn

stable fox
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Ogryn.

tired inlet
harsh oak
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huh good to hear for an ogryn lol

inland mantle
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Ogryn psyker arby zealot vet

harsh oak
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I am an ogryn main myself

stable fox
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I still like my veteran.

dry bay
inland mantle
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No

dry bay
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Yes

inland mantle
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Explain why then

harsh oak
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tho his PBB ability is shit

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gunlugger sucks ass

rose pine
stable fox
dry bay
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Because I said so and its an opinion

thick coyote
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Yeah Ogryn can just walk in against 7 Bosses, light attack them to death and have 90% of their hp remaining by the end of the fight

inland mantle
dry bay
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Just like everything in this discord

slow canyon
inland mantle
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Ok

tired inlet
slow canyon
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I still have no idea

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wtf he was doing

harsh oak
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@slow canyon can you help me level in orthos?

harsh oak
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I have not done easter egg for it yet 😦

tired steeple
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Psyker is my main

harsh oak
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and I want psyker like level 30 asap

inland mantle
simple drum
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Im looking inside a dogs mouth rn

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That so fucking weird

hollow depot
# thick coyote They have

Weird, they don't feel that much stronger then before to me, maybe I'm just warped in reflection on the pre-buffs

obtuse oak
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FYI

We have reviewed which implants can be available to the Arbites Class. If you have previously purchased any of the following cosmetics, you will be able to equip them on your Arbitrator with the next Hotfix (#70):

  • Spectrus VI Model Bionic Eye
  • MkIVz Occular Augmetic
  • MkIIg Occular Augmetic
  • Voicebox Rebreather (Osclum III Pattern)
  • Intra-Cranial Implant
simple drum
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They have fur , a neck then their hesd is just a robot box

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And their mouth

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No tongue no uvela

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Just some air vents

simple drum
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And flashlights for eyes

upper citrus
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are tags broken? i cant tag enemies outside of arbites

simple drum
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Type of fuckin dog is that

tired inlet
inland mantle
simple drum
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Nah mane

hollow depot
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Are any of those the eye implants that the Psyker gets?

simple drum
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Im calling animal control

upper citrus
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ah oh, i thought i was going crazy

inland mantle
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DT being buggie as always

tired steeple
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I always lag on the skylink bridge mission

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Not sure why

harsh oak
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has anyone here done orthos easter egg?

upper citrus
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sloptide never dissapoints

tired steeple
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It’s only for a short time

upper citrus
tired steeple
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When we get up the stairs

harsh oak
upper citrus
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ah cool

harsh oak
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I've done it like when arbites released

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idk if they fixed it after

steady scroll
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Has Malestrom disappeared for everyone? I did a bunch yesterday but got none on my map today.

slow canyon
thick coyote
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Not really

slow canyon
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its been a thing for years

thick coyote
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Because Psyker implants are different than normal human

hollow depot
# thick coyote 💀

I would like this one to be all Human classes personally #darktide-driptide message
I get why it isn't currently but it would have been nice for all

thick coyote
steady scroll
tired steeple
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They should put felinids in the game

steady scroll
jovial pine
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(since damnation maelstrom doesnt exist)

harsh oak
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@slow canyon so when you are free beloved?

steady scroll
jovial pine
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zamn

thick coyote
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Normal maels can range from Malice to Damnation

slow canyon
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all they need is the easter egg

thick coyote
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If they don't show up when you're hovering that difficulty

slow canyon
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and just use MMT to spam orthus on auric

upper citrus
thick coyote
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Then Fatshark fatted their shark

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Once again

upper citrus
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also, they really nuked maelstroms* out of existance

inland mantle
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bout to say

pale sphinx
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lfg play chill games with arbites im new no mic needed

jovial pine
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lel there really isnt a maelstrom rn

upper citrus
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atoma is safe

thick coyote
inland mantle
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Ah didnt know about that

upper citrus
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i dont wanna double tag tf

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if thats the bandaid ill just wait for an official fix

inland mantle
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official fix in 2 years

jovial pine
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cant you just change it back when you go back on arbites

thick coyote
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Apparently yeah that breaks tagging for any class that isn't Arby's with a dog

upper citrus
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new bug introduced today tho, the past 4 days was fine

rose pine
upper citrus
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i dont need a mod tho

rose pine
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Yeee, just saying, it's whack.

inland mantle
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Modders get it done chadgryn

upper citrus
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like, whats the mod for

tired steeple
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Does kinda suck how modders need to add features that should have been there ngl

inland mantle
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So much missing QOL

tired steeple
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I really really want a sight on my helbore

rose pine
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Then you're playing Maelstrom again.

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(auric only)

upper citrus
rose pine
tired steeple
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Nah never heard of it. What’s it about?

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Ponies?

rose pine
upper citrus
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but isnt that base game?

modest flume
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loregryn I was gonna say I'm pretty sure there's an option to change that

rose pine
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Not according to the modders I think? I just got my tag on the scroll wheel, so wouldn't know.

steep patrol
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Also I am on 4/5 for maelstrom survivor. Will dying in another difficulty or another auric mission reset the streak?

upper citrus
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you can totally single tag for dog lol

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i have it

rose pine
inland mantle
sweet pumice
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Fatshark I just soloed an Auric Mortis trial and it disconnected me as I picked up the relic. I am fuckin FUMING

tired steeple
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Is there a reason people find double tag so bad? Just seems like another button press

upper citrus
rose pine
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A literal death sentence.

tired steeple
modest flume
steady scroll
tired steeple
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Eh I can live with it

upper citrus
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you can disable ping sound??!

sweet pumice
rose pine
tired steeple
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I play a mark target build so I don’t mind that much

steady scroll
rose pine
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I think it's a case of being the one clicking the pen in class, but the second someone else clicks the pen, it's a pain.

steady scroll
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Oh wait I couldn't post the screenshot, haha.

tired steeple
upper citrus
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i found it, thanmks

tired steeple
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Should try the remake when I can

upper citrus
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didnt know it existed

rose pine
tired steeple
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Never in my life

inland mantle
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Go on

tired steeple
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Is it about surfing

rose pine
tired steeple
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Ah just like bloodborne

stable fox
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Bri'ish mentioned.

rose pine
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It's bloodborne, but instead of giant furries, it's unwashed hooligans.

stable fox
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Wait what. staregryn

rose pine
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Make sure to censor the *

stable fox
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Furries! HERETICS! PURGE-

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raging 🔥

rose pine
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Just give me my Vutaan Zealot 😔

tired steeple
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Yeah I hate space wolves too

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*dislike

rose pine
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As long as it ain't an Eldar, it's good. Depending.

stable fox
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Felinids are... Tolerable.

tired steeple
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I like all factions but my favourite, the ad-mech, aren’t available yet

stable fox
tired steeple
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Actually I’m not really an ork fan

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They’re cool

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But I prefer my factions with more order

rose pine
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Gotta search up what.. Feli- No, No, they're not. I will eat them.

tired steeple
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There’s not an official outfit of felinids

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Design?

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Yeah that

stable fox
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They don't really have official illustration but gw said that they exist.

rose pine
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It's either the Guardsmen of the Imperium, Ogryns, or Tyranids.

steep patrol
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No auric maelstrom on the mission board wtfgryn

stable fox
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Imagine the funny moment if Fatshark allowed to make official appearance of felinids KEKW_ogryn

rose pine
tired steeple
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They’re gonna be ugly if they’re in darktide

rose pine
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Let the heretics spawn a few more runts, and you'll get back to it.

tough cargo
rose pine
tired steeple
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I do genuinely like that everyone looks super rugged and mean. But jesus christ why are we all so ugly

stable fox
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Strange, i usually see maelstrom on my board.

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Guess i have good perception.

tired steeple
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My gf made a character who fits super well and looks like a perfect 40k character. Could tell me her zealot was a real character and I’d have believed you

surreal ermine
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in the grim dark future of 40k everyone is ugly

stable fox
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You think grim dark should always look pretty?

surreal ermine
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unless you're an ogryn

steep patrol
obtuse oak
tired steeple
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Not always. Just occasionally

surreal ermine
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ogryns are beautiful just as they are

obtuse oak
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Wednesday, maybe? They often do hotfixes on Wednesdays

stable fox
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Wait what is #70? Wut

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Ah

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It's hotfix.

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Brain farts.

rose pine
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Ogryns would win every beauty contest they're a part off.

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Tis why Psykers cant even comprehend joining anymore.

stable fox
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Well ogryns meant to be a small beacon of humanity.

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Gentle giants for the most part.

sharp galleon
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Friend dragged me into auric. Either I'm rusty or devs added something to it. I feel overwhelmed, like sensory overload.

stable fox
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At least it's not havoc 40 clearance.

rose pine
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If it's not Ogryn / Arbi, that'd be why.

sharp galleon
tough cargo
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if you can only beat aurics with ogryn/arbi you may need to practice more

rose pine
sharp galleon
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Arbiters did add to sensory overload because their dog pings twice.

tough cargo
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pass

rose pine
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I'm sorry for your loss.

surreal ermine
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if weve got the kickback where the punchforwards

rose pine
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That's my fist Frogge.

tired steeple
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We should get the nurgling launcher enemy

rose pine
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Kickback to kill 50+ Runts in a single shot, and 3 swings to kill the 4 Crushers.

tough cargo
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other than arbi, ive got fully 'completed' (as in penances) of each class. it'll be rare days i got back to oggy.

rose pine
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Simple as.

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Wish I had the time to complete all the penances, but alas, they're not Ogryns 😔

sharp galleon
rose pine
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Might just warm up with a few easier matches, and work your way up, if you're not up to date with playing the game.

tough cargo
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i wonder if the darktide trading card game will ever release

stable fox
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The other reason to waste money.

tired steeple
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I’ve seem people saying vet is weaker btw. Is that true at all? I’ve been playing vet and it feels fine

tired inlet
rose pine
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Already got around 14k+ MTG cards, with DnD and all included, dont need more.

narrow hearth
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Hi, new to the game. Is there a class that's easiest for new players?

rose pine
tired inlet
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3 Ogryns in a yellow trench coat pretending to be a Primaris Marine and the Iron Fists don't care

thick fog
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Hybrid on melee and ranged

rose pine
thick fog
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Though you can just feel free to pick what sounds and suits you the most with their styles and roles

tired inlet
narrow hearth
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I like them all which is why I ask 🙂

stable fox
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I like both.

rose pine
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Personally would recommend Veteran, as they're a good variety of what you can expect when it comes to gameplay?
But depending on what sort of playstyle you prefer.
Veteran / Psyker are usually in the backline.
Zealot are a good mid / frontline
Ogryn? quite literally whatever you'd prefer, depending.
Arbiter, veteran but better.

tough cargo
stable fox
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Veteran is almost versatile. Just need to remember veteran is strong if he's with fellow rejects.

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Shouting "I WANT TO HEAR THEM SCREAM!" boost morale like never before.

rose pine
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Biggest difference between Veteran and Ogryn at this point, is that the veteran can give others grenades and remove corruption.

stable fox
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My favourite pick for sure.

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Let me grab ammo crates and you won't regret it.

narrow hearth
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What are the differences between Veteran and Arbites?

tough cargo
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you don't need to grab the ammo crates. its just a team advantage i believe.

stable fox
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Veteran however is a bit more squishy but still can put up the fight.

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He still has compensations that let him survive a bit longer, especially whenever getting shot.
Like perk that gives you toughness regen as long as nothing that has shovel punches you.

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Or different weapons.

thick fog
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Veteran is more ammo efficient too

narrow hearth
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Do veterans get access to bolters?

stable fox
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Karking Yes.

tough cargo
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and don't forget the amazing iconic trait of peeking over cover when crouched behind it. lol

thick fog
stable fox
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I use stab revolver tho.

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I dunno, fits my veteran just fine.

rose pine
stable fox
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Morrow technically speaking is veteran.

narrow hearth
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Thanks all, it sounds like veteran is up my alley. Thanks for the info 🙂

stable fox
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Veteran is usually the first character you'd pick. At least he was my first pick with Cutthroat personality.

tough cargo
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vet's my fave. its a solid starting pick to figure out the game's mechanics. have fun.

rose pine
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Gameplay wise.
The Veteran can be decent at Melee and mid-combat.
But excells at longer-range bouts, along with bringing supportive ordeals like toughness regen, picking out elites, and giving better resources / crowd control.

The Arbiter however.
Has a walking 'anti-elite alarm' in the shape of a dog.
With CC out the wazoo, literal pocket psykers out the rear, enough toughness to make even a space marine of nurgle blush, and a heavy hitting melee/ranged weapon (only for them) so hard hitting, that it'll make even a Tau with tank-sized cannon (As in, the cannon is the size of a tank) look confused.

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The Veteran is def' a good go to choice, as they dont lack either health, or toughness, and can aid your team a lot more with their options of perks, it feels good to play Vet.

Arbiter.
Arbiter just runs the enemies down.

stable fox
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Like i said. Arbitrator makes you go aggressive.

tired steeple
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heresy grows from idleness

stable fox
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I like spamming "for the Lex!" And "For the Emperor!" As fatalist personality.

rose pine
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Arbiter has a literal " Terminator " stance.

tired steeple
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and I'm a sleepy boy

rose pine
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And I love it.

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The terminator stance, not that you're sleepy.

stable fox
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This stance that let you tank everything for a good while makes me feel frenzy.

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Especially with shield combo.

tough cargo
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and by "literal Terminator stance" you mean "literal Castigator stance"?

odd night
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i asked this before, but i always forgot.. the asshole ragers that look like cheap banes from batman, what sort of enemy are they again? -.-

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i hate them so much, i want my weapons extra effective against them

stable fox
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Elites. Maniacs.

steep patrol
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Do damnation mortis trials count for auric unlocking progress?

tough cargo
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no

fiery wave
steep patrol
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Alright

tired steeple
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I hate how long it took me to notice the difficulty symbol becoming more corrupted

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with auric having horns

sleek harness
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Because Arbites will take Veterans place

hasty breach
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Guys, we can't find any auric maelstrom mission . Where did they go ?

sleek harness
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Its the new difficulty

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Also it isn't on the map the maelstrom

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Ew reddit

elder merlin
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Good job everyone

sleek harness
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Paul can we play?

elder merlin
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We did it

tough cargo
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ew android app

sleek harness
stable fox
sharp inlet
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How long did it take them in vermintdie to nerf the new OP pay to be cool classes to the point where other people could have fun?

stable fox
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We did what.

elder merlin
dry pebble
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WAIT REALLY

tough cargo
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now we just need to complain enough that they give us reject title

dry pebble
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Nice! Now to wait the cyber eye to return to the fomo dungeons

elder merlin
stable fox
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So we get some cosmetics that was considered as "not fitting"?

elder merlin
odd night
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is vault spireside still a thing? i dont have any of the penances for it, its the desert one with the two story vault thingies at the end, isnt it? i remember it from long time ago

elder merlin
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We take 'em where we can get 'em

stable fox
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I honestly didn't noticed that issue because i were checking new version of campaign as zealot.

tired inlet
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are you linking a reddit post to a screenshot or synopsis of something that Hank wrote like an hour ago on this very channel?
#general-chat message

stable fox
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But let's have corpsestarch for celebration.

elder merlin
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I only just saw it, so figured i'd share

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Of course Hank already posted it

tough cargo
elder merlin
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Also kill @tired inlet and eat his corpse

fiery wave
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She was doing too much damage because of a bug.

sharp inlet
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People still talking about sister of the thorn missed the whole point

fiery wave
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FS testing basically.

thick coyote
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Whatever. Go my Javelin

fiery wave
tired steeple
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how's the necromancer

elder merlin
dry bay
tired steeple
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oh that's a shame

dry bay
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GK still on top

tired steeple
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necromany's my favourite form of magic

dry bay
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(I haven't played V2 in over a year)

fiery wave
tired steeple
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next to just death in general then shadow

sharp inlet
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Arbites is aggressively W+M1 compared to other classes

dry bay
thick coyote
elder merlin
thick coyote
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Still has the damage reduction iirc

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Unless they changed that

sharp inlet
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The shotgun clears hallways better than grenades, The class has a lot more damage boosts available than even zealot who has to do cheesy martyr stuff to almost keep up

dry bay
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GK and Ironbreaker still on top

stuck wasp
tired steeple
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I used to main ironbreaker

elder merlin
zinc marsh
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Once again

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Fatshark

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Where Excise Vault

tired steeple
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and uhh markus' base default class

elder merlin
tired steeple
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I forgot what it was called

upper citrus
upper citrus
tired steeple
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yeah thanks

zinc marsh
sharp inlet
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Nah the whole class is a balance travesty. After going sweaty tryhard on zealot running different builds for ages I got to where most people could never keep up with me in a lot of metrics, now I outperform my own zealot on a class I've put very little effort into

upper citrus
elder merlin
vocal hawk
zinc marsh
upper citrus
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unlucky

sharp inlet
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And thats where the problem is, its that they made Arbites so strong people dont feel rewarded for playing other classes. Its esepcially bad now that we're not limited to one per party so its a whole crew of OP wrecking balls crashing through levels

zinc marsh
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And unless they changed it away from the Gotye picture, I have not seen it

upper citrus
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anyway, arbites doesnt have gold toughenss, therefore is not broken

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idk bro,

elder merlin
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Keep talkin, i'll pretend like im listenin

upper citrus
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i dont think arbites is omega broken compared to zealot or ogryn, just another class

sharp inlet
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Its better at being zealot than a zealot and better at being an ogryn than an ogryn at the same time on almost any build

elder merlin
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Zealot players be yappin for sure

vestal mantle
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Meanwhile I just support team with my infiltration stealth shotgun

elder merlin
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Never met players who hated their own class more than zealots

upper citrus
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let them be

sharp inlet
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I dont only play zealot, its just my best class, or at least it was until Arbites won by default

upper citrus
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i told some dude like a month back to dm me on release day and i was gonna gift them the class, they fumbled

zinc marsh
fiery wave
upper citrus
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unfortunate paul

elder merlin
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Hell, gift it to Karien then

upper citrus
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dude was begging for the class, guess they really didnt want it

zinc marsh
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-# also like half the keystones are just recycles

vocal hawk
sharp inlet
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Most of them are upgrades in addition to being recycles, like "This sucked when we released it on Vet so we made it good and put it here instead of fixing theirs"

elder merlin
fiery wave
zinc marsh
upper citrus
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i guess, idk

sharp inlet
upper citrus
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never dmd me

fiery wave
upper citrus
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it was @unkempt wolf dude forgor

sharp inlet
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Arbites hitting "guy who is staggered" have more dmg boosts from their tree than a martyrdom zealot at full stacks

rose pine
thick coyote
fiery wave
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They then sent me the deluxe edition and enough money to buy some of the new shop cosmetics.

sharp inlet
sharp inlet
rose pine
fiery wave
rose pine
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The oggry deserves it, because they oggies.

unkempt wolf
dry pebble
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missed that one gorp

fiery wave
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While being able to 1 tap elites and specials that aren't oggies.

rose pine
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Here's the real question.
Should We be fighting at the Bot front, or the Heretic front 🥵

fiery wave
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And maulers.

rose pine
fiery wave
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And well, muties.

fiery wave
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It's like an entire vet without ammo regen.

rose pine
sharp inlet
tough cargo
rose pine
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If Darktide was a PvP game, the Arbiter would be a Pay To Win class.

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Think that's the best way to put it.

dry pebble
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You guys think arbiter is that op? i just think it outclasses vet and zealot

fiery wave
shy karma
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Hello, hello. If i would decide to start playing Darktide today; would i need certain DLC's ?

surreal ermine
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what is with people thinking pve means the game doesnt have to be balanced 😭 i cant comment much on how balanced arbites is but every game needs balance

zinc marsh
fiery wave
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Cata even for some.

dry pebble
tough cargo
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you can still win with any class

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you can win havocs by slapping only

fiery wave
dry bay
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Real V2 vets know you play twitch modifiers extreme cata 1 life no pickups

surreal ermine
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because everything should still have its use case, having something thats very similar and outright better just makes it feel like using the other thing is pointless

thorny viper
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do people use in the ingame party finder for havoc

fiery wave
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Legend is basically just uprising now.

tough cargo
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its use case? if you win it achieves the use case.

sharp inlet
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Im so tired of people acting like its okay for one class to trivialize the whole game into piss easy walking sim because its PvE

thick coyote
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Don't think it outclasses zealot

fiery wave
sharp inlet
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I'll fully acknowledge that PvE makes balance less important than in a PvP game, but extreme gaps still cause problems

rose pine
thick coyote
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Zealot Finesse is incredibly hard to outclass

dry pebble
thorny viper
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is arbites op

dry pebble
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kind of

fiery wave
tough cargo
sharp inlet
fiery wave
rose pine
thick coyote
dry pebble
sharp inlet
thick coyote
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Nah

thorny viper
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yeah but its new and paid dlc

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so ofc they gonna make it op

rose pine
thick coyote
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Grenades are 360 aoe

upper citrus
sharp inlet
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It has more damage boosts for less investment than zealot and access to better weapons

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It has more passive attack speed than zealot outside of martyrdom

thorny viper
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every new vermintide class except grail knight was super on on release aswell

fiery wave
upper citrus
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too slow to pass zealot

unkempt wolf
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i wasnt able to get arbites gifted to me 😭

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im gonna need to buy it myself!

fiery wave
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If you know what you are doing.

upper citrus
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ok theres more to zealot than just survivality

unkempt wolf
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ahugw48yiunjokp[lrokpwhtrf6tguhijomkjhbvcxzqAzstfyhijok;

sharp inlet
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oh shit well if zealot can walk fast that changes everything

thorny viper
sleek harness
sharp inlet
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I forgot about the OP walking meta

dry pebble
rose pine
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I wish Zealots could have a 80% Damage resistance + 100% slow resistance / Weapon 'ignoring slowdown effect'

sharp inlet
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All games are for fun, balance contributes to fun, bad balance means less fun, hope this helps

tough cargo
rose pine
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for 8 whole seconds, on a potential > 20 second CD.

fiery wave
upper citrus
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the people who goes "its pve so screw balance" please go shower, if course you need balance

unkempt wolf
sleek harness
unkempt wolf
sleek harness
surreal ermine
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a decent example for me rn is the combat shotties vs the arbi shotties
the arbi shotties feel so much stronger and it just makes the combat shotties feel that much weaker when i try them

unkempt wolf
sharp inlet
surreal ermine
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even after the buffs they still feel pretty pathetic

unkempt wolf
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lol

rose pine
fiery wave
rose pine
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Or any gun for that matter..

thick coyote
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Our shotgun specialist (Path) claimed that Arby's shotguns are mid

zinc marsh
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-# also real talk why did they remove damnation maelstroms?

thick coyote
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And agripina is better

thick coyote
tough cargo
sleek harness
sleek harness
tough cargo
zinc marsh
fiery wave
surreal ermine
# tough cargo please elaborate

most gear should feel relatively equally satisfying to use while also encouraging build variety and getting better at the game

rose pine
unkempt wolf
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i forgot

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i got more stuff to worry about!

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like

digital tundra
# tough cargo please elaborate

If you don't mind me interjecting, it sounds like Cinnamon wants all playstyles to feel rewarding and not "I must work harder for less" in comparison to some other playstyles or archetypes like Arbites

unkempt wolf
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the hole in my wall

fiery wave
sharp inlet
# tough cargo please elaborate

Balance is relative. Its not about if somethign "can be done", theoretically a brand new character could beat anything in the game with base weapons and talents.

Balance is about how the player feels rewarded for playing or mastering a given playstyle. If a person puts a lot of time and energy into mastering a class, that can feel very rewarding. Vets who can snipe everything in sight in like two seconds enjoy doing that, its fun for them. For them to prepare to do taht and not get the opportunity to because someone else effortlessly pressed the Premium DLC "I kill everything in the level with one button class" literally robs them of that experience

zinc marsh
fiery wave
unkempt wolf
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almost every wall is made of solid brick

zinc marsh
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Well then good luck getting that hole filled

dry pebble
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based engineering

obtuse oak
fiery wave
thick coyote
sharp inlet
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If Im playing a zealot and Im getting ready to tear into crowds of enemeis with a build made for tearing into crowds of enemies and I dont get to do it because one single arbites does the shotgun thing in every hallway, I literally am denied many opportunities to play the game

thick coyote
rose pine
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Arbiter just makes the game feel too easy.

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too strong atm.

zinc marsh
# thick coyote As it should be

The fact i can remodel half my house with my hands and a good pair of gloves is NOT good engineering, Its just a fire hazard

sleek harness
sharp inlet
sleek harness
hard gorge
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"whats that? you wanted to actually kill things? fuck you im throwing glass bits at people"

unkempt wolf
# obtuse oak My condolences

living in poland is like a 50/50 of what your going to see:
Femboy Central
Polish gompniks drinking "Harnaś" (A beer)

thick coyote
unkempt wolf
dry pebble
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nuke poland

thick coyote
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You have the tools to do so

sleek harness
unkempt wolf
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Or, dumbass central

sleek harness
zinc marsh
digital tundra
sharp inlet
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It clears an entire hallway with near infinite pen while doing so much damage to each target its got a large chance of one shotting heavy gunners or shotgunners at the edge of its blast if its just fired into the crowd at head level

unkempt wolf
surreal ermine
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watching the arbites spam his shotty at the horde as i waddle over with my pickaxe excited to krump staregryn

hard gorge
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welp i guess its time to do another zealot run

sleek harness
thick coyote
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We used to barrel people that would waste ammo on crowds

odd night
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hrm. there is still no way to select a specific map, is there? x_X

thick coyote
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🚬

unkempt wolf
sharp inlet
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Arbites dont have to waste ammo on crowds, one shot clears an entire room

odd night
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:<

zinc marsh
odd night
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need that damn vault

unkempt wolf
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(its a drug code name)

sleek harness
unkempt wolf
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?

sleek harness
zinc marsh
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... Oh i cant say the funny S word

unkempt wolf
zinc marsh
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a shame

hard gorge
sleek harness
upper citrus
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SPANIARDS

hard gorge
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Saltzpyre

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Syndonian Dragoons

unkempt wolf
hard gorge
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Suckin' off

zinc marsh
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.... I mean Saltzpyre might be one with what the fuck he sees

sleek harness
thick coyote
sleek harness
hard gorge
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OH INQUISITOR OUTFITS

unkempt wolf
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what a dork!

hard gorge
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i just logged on for the first time in weeks

zinc marsh
sleek harness
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You can't scam someone who used to be a scammer

upper citrus
tough cargo
# sharp inlet Balance is relative. Its not about if somethign "can be done", theoretically a b...

I can agree with your points about a player should feel rewarded for playing and mastering their desired way to play. I think you're right that balance is relative and possibly unobtanium in a grander scheme. I think the issue at large is that FS has designed their characters to all be overlapping - much like they did in VT2 - so that everyone can have the opportunity to complete a mission/havoc/whatever. I think every class theoretically has an an instant kill button to some degree: ogryn with barrage and frag bomb, vets with plasma gun and krak grenades, zealots with chastise and two-handed sword. I can't name pskyers and arbitrators off the top of my head but hopefully you see my point.

sleek harness
unkempt wolf
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give me ur credit card

sleek harness
unkempt wolf
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back and front

sleek harness
unkempt wolf
sleek harness
upper citrus
sleek harness
upper citrus
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rat, i told you im a whale

unkempt wolf
sleek harness
zinc marsh
elfin pagoda
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why we simpin for saltzpyre

upper citrus
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phenomenal question

upper citrus
amber delta
sleek harness
zinc marsh
sleek harness
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Not hate on Loner

hard gorge
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wait whats this battle for tertium

compact flint
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FOR SIGMAR

unkempt wolf
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@sleek harness GIVE ME UR SHINS

upper citrus
unkempt wolf
hard gorge
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oh we finally got one?

sleek harness
amber delta
sleek harness
upper citrus
zinc marsh
unkempt wolf
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😭😭

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😭

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rose pine
fiery wave
# rose pine Arbiter just makes the game feel too easy.

Did say pay2win, everyone mocked me on release for saying that. Oggy is generally better, but his size and lack of chain dodge sucks at higher ping. Psyker does more damage in havoc, but one touch and ded psyker. Arbites are guaranteed to be able to eat at least 3 hits and this is if you suck at class so badly to have no toughness at all all the time.

sleek harness
rose pine
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Quite literally, stat wise, the worst aura.

modest flume
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You really have to wonder how some people get to H40

elfin pagoda
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why people hating on loner

upper citrus
zinc marsh
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Because its a shit aura

tough cargo
sleek harness
upper citrus
tough cargo
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play what is fun

rose pine
sleek harness
amber delta
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(it doesn't work)

zinc marsh
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If you want Loner, Buy the Arbites, keep dog, and get Packmates or whatever its called
Its literally just better loner

digital tundra
elfin pagoda
tough cargo
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🙂

elfin pagoda
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er

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not vet

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zealot

sleek harness
sleek harness
surreal ermine
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i thought we were talking about the psyker personality i love loner hes so funny

upper citrus
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yes, zealot is the owner of loner

rose pine
fiery wave
sleek harness
rose pine
sleek harness
thick coyote
zinc marsh
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The loner 100% Would meet the corpse emperor with a 410 pistol shot

upper citrus
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you could literally grab the tdr aura and it does loner job better, while also helping the team

elfin pagoda
compact flint
sleek harness
thick coyote
sleek harness
digital tundra
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It's a cool idea in concept

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Just uh

simple drum
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I have been blessed with a new relic sword

digital tundra
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Not great in practice

surreal ermine
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zealots running loner should go run off on their own until a trapper gets them manface

upper citrus
elfin pagoda
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werent we talking abt arby

rose pine
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it's neato burrito to go solo.

zinc marsh
fiery wave
rose pine
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Why yes, Solo Aura is good, if you're a knife zealot.

upper citrus
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the problem is that coherency regen, as a mechanic, sucks, especially 2 people regen

rose pine
upper citrus
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the tdr aura will give you more toughness than loner

fiery wave
simple drum
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I didnt take that skill i use the relics and just add 30% toughness regen

fiery wave
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Gotta run away to start the slow regen.

rose pine
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Much better.

upper citrus
simple drum
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And whatever else i can and i noticed my toughness regen rate is off the chain

thick coyote
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Just having a melee enemy targeting you

simple drum
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And my team still gets some corruption healing buffs etc

surreal ermine
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sometimes i wonder why coherency regen even exists when youre basically always in combat in this game unless youre on uprising (rip sedition)

elfin pagoda
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i just think an aura that allows for a different playstyle is cool but im kinda lost on if we were talking about arby's employee or sisters of battle at home

upper citrus
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like loner sucks in so many levels, i dont even care about the fact that loner zealots got negative IQ, but the aura, mechanically, is bad

digital tundra
fiery wave
rose pine
fiery wave
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Bots always hug lone player.

zinc marsh
modest flume
tough cargo
rose pine
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1 net, 1 dog, 1 crusher-corner, 1 overhead hit from a mauler, and you're out.

spark plume
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My brother is finally super into darktide since he killed everyone but me with a barrel and saw me pull a massive clutch pepe_FeelsGoodMan

modest flume
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When all builds were either left or right every 5 levels

rose pine
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Even if you took out the 3 gunners in the first engagement.

round mica
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WAIT the new class is a paid dlc??

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awwwwwwwwww

upper citrus
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oh boy, here we go

spare cliff
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so you still cant choose whatever mission you want after you beat the campaign

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thats ass

rose pine
digital tundra
rose pine
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It's bait Berk's.

fiery wave
surreal ermine
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$12 dlc after 2 years of game + free shit literally unplayable garbage

upper citrus
dry bay
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$12

modest flume
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My favorite

rose pine
round mica
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12 usd in my country is 1 weeks food

dry bay
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Deluxe isn't worth it

zinc marsh
fiery wave
upper citrus
digital tundra
spark plume
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Having a doggo = worth every penny pogryn

modest flume
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Veteran not dealing with gunners, Arbites not meleeing and relying on his Lethal Proximity dog bomb

elfin pagoda
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even if we were lied to i still didnt mind paying for new dlc for this game but it feels a bit too expensive lol

unkempt wolf
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@upper citrus hey

modest flume
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Average day of Darktide

thick fog
dry bay
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A better cape skin

elfin pagoda
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and then the only good cosmetics for the class are also paid

spark plume
upper citrus
fiery wave
tough cargo
zinc marsh
spark plume
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Mohawk helmet looks ass

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But the cape is cool

thick fog
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The weapon skins also look wonderful

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Mainly the shotgun

rose pine
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The cape makes you look like a dope.

upper citrus
surreal ermine
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skins are never worth real money in any game manface

dry bay
upper citrus
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the dog alone is worth the deluxe

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you cant get the dog in penance

modest flume
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All of Arbiter's penances can be done just by playing VDVwtf

dry bay
spark plume
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Anyone else fall in love with the class the first time your dog knocked a chaos hound off you? FeelsOkayButBadMan

dry bay
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Including the artwork mastiff

upper citrus
fiery wave
dry bay
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Are we playing the same game lol

elfin pagoda
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can we boycott fatshart for barely giving any cosmetics to this class

upper citrus
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yes?

dry bay
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I felt robbed buying deluxe when I unlocked better cosmetics

thick fog
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Bro just released

upper citrus
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i didnt. deluxe was hella worth it

spark plume
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Am I Bruce Willis in 6th sense or something pepe_monkaHmm

tough cargo
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I'm alright with paying for deluxe. yeah.

elfin pagoda
upper citrus
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the dog was hella worth it

thick fog
modest flume
thick fog
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Slop must flow

tough cargo
fiery wave
elfin pagoda
zinc marsh
spark plume
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Wait, tencent owns fatshark?

thick fog
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What we really need now is a Batman Beyond like cosmetic set to complete my dream Maul batman impression KEKW_ogryn

upper citrus
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bait

thick fog
zinc marsh
upper citrus
#

yet

fiery wave
zinc marsh
#

yet

spark plume
# thick fog Yes

Oh okay I'm not a ghost, everyone was just ignoring my previous messages FeelsEvilMan

tired steeple
#

Happens

fiery wave
elfin pagoda
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in 2030 everything is gonna be owned by tencent disney and microsoft

surreal ermine
#

tencent has their fingers in anything that turns a profit
i honestly believe its extremely overblown how much they actually influnce games they own and people just want a scapegoat

zinc marsh
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I mean hell it was the other day i learned Hytale was obtained by Riot Games (owned by tencent) before it was executed out back like a bad pox hound

spark plume
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Yay more Chinese publishers pepe_FeelsGoodMan

compact flint
modest flume
fiery wave
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Well, all mobo companies.

zinc marsh
spark plume
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Has anyone else seen a dog try to pounce something far away and just fly to the moon? Is it a bug?

digital tundra
modest flume
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We're already there

compact flint
elfin pagoda
thick fog
tough cargo
spark plume
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I named my mastiff after herKEKW_ogryn

zinc marsh
somber stream
dry bay
zinc marsh
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-# The joke is that the old salamanders were not fashionable

spark plume
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Daisy the vicious cyber mastiff PepeHypers

modest flume
sharp inlet
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Hey, the class may be premium DLC you have to pay for, but that money gets you ||trivialized aurics and homogenous gameplay||

tough cargo
dry bay
modest flume
upper citrus
dry bay
#

Its so small

thick fog
zinc marsh
sharp inlet
dry bay
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GK, SoT, and WP still strong

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-# oh

zinc marsh
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you can do it with just the # and get headliner text its kinda fun

somber stream
dry bay
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oh

surreal ermine
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live action lilo and stich made more profit than the original ever did
the people love their slop remakes idk what anyone expected

dry bay
modest flume
dry bay
#

They might balance it

somber stream
sharp inlet
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Lilo and stitch but it cuts to vin diesel everytime someone says "Family"

worn quail
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We all know that its stupid, them included

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Its $12

zinc marsh
fiery wave
somber stream
worn quail
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You could go into the grimiest burger flipping job ever and storm out crying after an hour because you got "socially overstimulated" or whatever the fuck they say these days and still have enough

fiery wave
tough cargo
sharp inlet
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I just think the shotgun shouldnt kill whole rooms and be good at ganking elites/specials

spark plume
somber stream
fiery wave
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You are better off working at an event for 3 days at $50 a day.

dry bay
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I only make $7.25 an hour and I bought deluxe

fiery wave
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No contracts and such.

dry bay
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(Not serious)

tough cargo
zinc marsh
fiery wave
hard gorge
thick coyote
spark plume
thick coyote
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You wouldn't be using any other weapon

hard gorge
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This is the same level of guys getting pissy that you 3d print models instead of buying them

dry bay
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Shotguns are wild irl. Games almost always get them wrong

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Especially if you have a modified choke

thick coyote
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Shotguns are actually pretty fucking good irl

surreal ermine
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ill take this games monetization as it is rn over the direction helldivers is going clueless

somber stream
spark plume
thick coyote
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Mauler body is flak

dry bay
fiery wave
spark plume
thick coyote
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Too bad I got 11 shots

somber stream
thick coyote
zinc marsh
spark plume
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Let people spend or not spend their money how they want

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What's with the weird financial shaming

upper citrus
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^^^

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only i can deem if something is worth my money

worn quail
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They dont have any money, they just need to make it everyone elses problem

dry bay
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I run slug, slug, 00 buck, 00 buck, 00 buck in my home defense shotgun

zinc marsh
fiery wave
hard gorge
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things should cost less!
NO YOURE ENTITLED

spark plume
worn quail
fiery wave
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You show off your wealth to crush others.

dry bay
hard gorge
#

Like
I feel like most people would be happy with not having to pay

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Or paying less

tough cargo
dry bay
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Quit being poor

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Smh

zinc marsh
hard gorge
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Its like getting a game on sale then being told "haha youre broke why did you force them to do a sale"

hard gorge
zinc marsh
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I cant even say the funny SCH word without automod getting angy

fiery wave
spark plume
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It's just absolutely spazzed out the wazoo to think someone must be broke because they don't want to buy microtransactions

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That's like saying someone must be broke if they don't go play blackjack at casinos

upper citrus
hard gorge
#

PIRATE EVERYTHING

somber stream
#

Is someone here actually defendind the cosmetic store price?

upper citrus
#

theres no a single game right now that id rather have

spark plume
dry bay
#

Master bait

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You mean

tough cargo
worn quail
zinc marsh
dry bay
#

If you respond it clearly works

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Lol.

surreal ermine
dry bay
#

Thats what bait is

spark plume
upper citrus
#

i own every single game i want atm

tough cargo
worn quail
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Like if ur not gonna buy something thats awesome, but then if u need to defend yourself as to why, to everyone, constantly, and encourage people to pirate, and call people greedy, etc