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that can be said for any reason if it gets too hot
Those fucking goobers don't know shit
I’ve got a warranty
Couldn't make
into a sticker for some reason
its over...
I figured this motherfucker wanted to sell me a $50 membership
To get it replaced. It’s like bruh. I’ve got a warranty
Yeah dont let em run you around, go get a replacement or your money back
Right I’ve got the receipt
I can rightfully return it. It’s like they makin it seem like I can’t
thats hilarious lol. if you're keen on keeping it instead of trading it for another then id take it to another independent computer shop
Nah I wanna trade it. This thing was almost 2 gs
Then I’m washing my hands of Best Buy. Fuckers
you wouldnt prefer a desktop for that money?
Well.. I don’t know much about computers anymore tbh. And desktop. In my apartment. We just don’t have the space.. we could do that though
I was looking at some rigs. Could get a rig for cheaper
just an idea if you're open to it since theyre a lot easier to work on and have better performance
I could just take it back cash, go to one of them places that builds it for you
laptops are dope though
Meh. I’m not impressed with my sons. I got a MacBook Air 15.
yeah up to you. lot of money!
I don’t game on pc. Don’t need to
Samsung 7.0 is shit and it makes me want to kill heretics
i bought the macbook air m2 chip version for school
I use my MacBook for writing. I just don’t wanna replace it in the next 5-10 years
And dude there’s like sticky shit. On the fan pad. I think the thermal paste hypothesis is probable
just to find out my emt program needs windows
These motherfuckers
wRong answer 
it's possible that 90C is normal
yeahh
I know if I didn’t have a ps5 I’d have a gaming rig
hell nah
laptops are built different
not for roblox especially
maybe, but the temp he's looking at could be the hottest spot
imagine him running darktide
Yeah you can play Roblox on phone
thing would shut off
Nahh he’s got the diagnostics open
you'd be surprised. the more of the cpu that gets taken up it actually isnt that much harder to cool
Or the lil thing that shows heat on GpU and CPU heat
could still be SubOptimal
Just lost
my computer is sitting at 39 idle
I heard 70 is normal. 90 is ab. I don’t know about computers and I don’t trust Best Buy guys
(insert the "suboptimal" meme image that shows a glowing hot ventilation duct)
Wow wtf
my desktop usually sits at 70 yeah
3 fans
If ur cpu is touching 90 turn ur pc off
laptops are built different though
4 actually
^
Yea my desktop used to do that bullshit
it wont last long at 90
I had to buy a extra case fan a liquid cooler
he'll just put money down the drain
Now my pc sits at 20-30-40 celcius depending on room temp
90 is not bad per se, it's questionable but it can run; around 94 is many no good
And if i game it doesnt go above 70
90 C itself isnt a problem but it's probably gonna go above it lol
20? this guys pc is submerged in water or something
Unless my rooms hot and the games intense but yea
When it gets cold my cooler over preforms
Yeah I wanna get him darktide and dbd
it 100% is a problem twin
But when its hot it raises to about 40
But if his shit is clockin high on fucking roblox
dont ever let your computer stay at 90 long
it's a laptop, im absolutely certain that they are made to get a little hotter
That’s a problem to me.
computer parts are computer parts
it's true that going up to 90 while playing roblox is cringe
Laptops are made to get hotter but it wont last long either
no matter what case theyre in
Not as hot as you 
They have laptop coolers
they'll fry themselves
Honestly even my steam deck
I mean shit. I want this to last him 5 to ten years
90c is 100 percent throttling temps
Temp doesnt go above 80
is it sustaining 90 C or is it just going up to it for a moment?
And sometimes i do play intense games though i dont like to
It seems sustained
@thorny cave just trade it in while its working man. better now where they cant give you some bs excuse as to how it was your fault when it breaks. unless you're willing to open it up and find a possible problem
I use fantastic to keep my fan blowing
have you tried adjusting the fan curve and stuff?
Cuz it will hit those 90 temps
Nahh I should try
make it go to 100% fan usage at 75C or something
though it should already be trying its hardest
so it's weird
Thats exactly how inkeep my steak deck from cooking itself
Especially while playing darktide
^ forgot about that
But honestly when he first got it he’d be like “dad this shit is hot” and I’d be like… it’s hot.. like almost blistering hot to touch just after first week. Then he figured out how to pull up the temps
or
the fact it's doing this with a fan pad is concerning
WITH a fan pad?
it's probably throttling so hard
thats crazy asf
i wouldnt risk the company somehow blaming it on me
and just trade it in
whats the dump stat for braced autogun?
does it have mobility
yeah
sometimes dump stat can depend on class
I’m in armory crate with him
then that
yeah
for zealot:
Braced Autogun MK8 (Mobility)
Braced Autogun MK2 & MK4 (Collateral)
according to the pinned in zealot
ok what about blessings
Deathspitter Fire Frenzy
It’s an intel core 9 too
I'll never dump you 
i think if you adjust frequency, power limits, and the fan curve it should help a lot.
I’m gonna try that. Armour crate looks like it needs an update too
there's an alternative to armory crate btw
tis what the redditors suggest
(https://youtu.be/hqe-PjuE-K8 a popularish video that talks about it)
Damn. GitHub is legit
it's very possible that the cpu is just trying to overclock itself into oblivion and isnt smart enough to calm down
Thanks dude
This may be helpful. If not I can always replace it or get my money back
the fan curve is kinda weird. even on the balanced (as opposed to the silent fan profile) fan profile it goes to 3900/5600 RPM at 80 C. at 90 C it's at 4800/5600. and at only around 97C does it go to 5600/5600 RPM
i can only interpret this as meaning that they intend for it to get to like 95C
Does anyone what weapons will the arbites will be using?
Well we know the big ass pump shotgun and the assault shield and shock mace with revolver
I wonder how good shotgun is because it was seen not killing a hound on what I assume is sedition difficulty
If the shield comes to veteran it would be quite interesting
The actual cyber-mastiff wasn't really seen doing much, but again very low difficulty gameplay video
how does the shield, mace, and revolver even work? is it a single weapon that takes up both your weapon slots?
i suppose we dont know
It's a melee weapon
I presume the revolver is a special
Appeared to be able to aim before firing, so maybe you hold the special button
that would make sense
Pure speculation there
I think I kinda like helldiver's judge dredd content better lol
The pistol is like the smart pistol from titanfall
And the armour actually has increased defence to chest
it definitely doesnt take up both slots since the arbites in the gameplay reveal has a shotgun too
i wonder if that means the shield's revolver needs ammo
Yeah it must do
I imagine arbites might have a lot of talents that synergise with it
But could work with other stuff maybe
I just hope the dog doesn't suck
You know, I hope it can be sent to revive people, and it helps you out if you're pinned as its owner
At least by other hounds
i assume it'll more or less automatically run to you if you get dogged or mutanted
not sure what it does when you're trappered. lays by your side maybe
Well we already know that it staggers and damages anything but bosses that you double ping
And it will do this automatically by itself, just not at what you specifically want it to
Hey nice
It can be sicced onto bosses for uhhh free DoT damage LMAO
That's a good dawg
Which can also be turned INTO a stagger on a boss if you use the blitz that explodes around the dog
I bet it will inflict +10% damage to target or something too
Which sounds so fun by itself
You know, with talents
There's gonna be a talent that inflicts brittleness IIRC, which is kinda just more damage but for everyone on your team against that enemy
Yeah we do like brittleness
Ironically the cops who have been on atoma fighting this war have to support the rejects lol
I don't imagine it will revive, since that's a way more important function than being unmutied, which they say it can do
I'm pretty hyped for the dog talents, they seems pretty rad
I don't think it should either
I guess you're right
It sounds so fun
Since like remnant 2 I saw a dog in a game and assumed it can revive
They cooked here fs
But in remnant 2 you kind of realised handler was a bit underpowered
Yeah, also I hope arbites can use flamers
At least in higher difficulties
I wonder what their full arsenal will look like
There's a lot of arbites weapons
it'd be kinda crazy if the dog could revive you since it's also invincible
though presumably, if it could revive you, it'd at least have to not get hit
It could be balanced if it got interrupted if you got hit
I guess they like grenade launchers and sniper rifles a bit like real police, besides shotguns and your standard rifles
Like it could revive only if no enemy is around
it'd be interesting, I guess you look at someone like zealot who doesn't go down and it's not far off in power
But obviously hard to balance around
Kinda unrelated but I'm so tired of people misunderstanding how DR work in this game, and they still talk like they were experts about it
for all we know there could be a talent that lets the dog revive you once every x minutes. i kinda hope not..
but it wouldnt be stronger than until death
I was told about TDR in ogryn chat
So I'm taking toughness curios now
I don't really understand it though lol
depends on what DR
It's fine to not understand, my anger comes from people who are bragging about their knowledge while clearly not understanding shit about it
The people who play a lot of havoc 40 seem mad that psyker and ogryn scale well when the game throws a million enemies at you too
Idk what they're mad at tbh, I just wished zealot and vet to be as well designed for havoc
I've heard shroudfield zealot lives in their own world
But I haven't actually heard anything about veteran
Meta zealot in h40 is so ass
Hmm
Havoc 40 sounds like kind of bad difficulty tough, just throwing a ton of stuff at you all buffed
No regard for how it all works
Yeah, I think it's pretty lame in that regard
Of course you need meta for it
how does the dog implementation feel
I don't actually mind switching from meta in normal contexts though, I'd get bored sticking with one thing
It just ruins the build variety
min maxing is the point of gaming
Different weapons feel different, sometimes they feel fun
You need a build that works with no stats, mostly melee and anti carapace
build experimentation is not a fun aspect in any game ever
It's oppressively specific
Havoc will be interesting if I ever get into a crew to do it
All I know is ogryn lol
Talk for you dude, it's like my favorite part of games with builds
Yeah we like to fuck around
was i not dripping with enough sarcasm?
You might find your most favourite weapons that way
Sorry I have autism
It's hard to read sarcasm if it's not very obvious, in text form
it was
But yeah, I dreamed about a good auric mode, but we got a mid one
I was focused on the earnest conversation so I didn't catch it, sorry
its not ur fault
The challenge is here, but not in the way I hoped
the inclusion of the word "ever" made it seem sarcastic but it's easy to miss
Golden toughness battery 
The sad part is I could believe a meta slave would say that
yeah poe's law is real
"playing DS4 with your flamer ? Daring today aren't we"
some people just wanna be good without effort
Ds4?
Duel sword mk4
I heard about the duelling sword
how do u get higher refines like t4?
I mean that's what i run
Haven't really tried it yet
Level up weapon mastery
Basically, if you break down the math of the DS4 it's just so stupidly ahead of everything it's not even funny
I see
The numbers could be halved and it'd still compete for the best weapons in the game, it's that good
Well I will probably have to level it to 500 mastery and move on like everything else
If not combat blade & bolter
Combat blade has better crits right
Cblade is like A or S tiers good, it's a great weapon
But DS4 is on another planet
But duelling blade has a way easier combo and I assume range
DS4 also have the best crits over cblade
Wow
Well, I'll have to give it a try, but I also want to try out the 2h power sword
The only think DS4 does less good that cblade is mobility and dodges, but it's just a slight difference
The relic blade is so fun
So my friend tells me, he's really roleplaying it
arbys...
If it was slightly better against carapace it'd be a great weapon for high havic
I do hope the big-ass pump shotgun is good
o
They were showing sedition gameplay so it's kind of hard to tell yet
I kinda wished relic blade had actual blessings though
Maybe it just missed the hound
Yeah the pellets probably missed it
I feel that leveling psyker 2h force sword
It has very little blessings
Maybe the actual damage was shifted into the base weapon
Blessings are generally a let down in this game
Like they're kinda fun, some are great
Some of them are a game changer and some of them are like why
But overall it's a ton of wasted potential
I love blessings like showstopper on flamer
That makes enemy explode
Ogryn's shield can do +4 stacks to staggered enemy for 10% damage
Yeah that's actually cool
I was forgetting to use this because I switched to a new shield with better base stats
It's night and day bro
You really like those stacking damage things
I want to purchase the arbites dlc so bad
Knoife highest crits, then tacaxe.
Oh no I leveled to 30 on all classes before the talent update
Wait until you try A Pimp Named Slickback 
This was just my ignorant ass
DS is just base crit chance.
It has the highest multiplier, but not the highest damage
and the whole "command" voices you hear
Or maybe I'm wrong on this can't remember for sure
were replaced by Sister Hestia and some Margrave people
I'm told the hot new thing is the rumbler and pickaxe
yes
Is there any insider news on the arbites DLC price?
But I probably can't protect the little uns as well with all that
Rumbler and Karsolas is meta
Usd 12.
That's old news, the new best thing is the slap and clap
true
that means 7 USD for me most likely
Rumbler is meta
since I am in India
Karsolas is off meta, but still viable.
hopefully
Bully Club IIIb is meta
I guess so
Time to load 12 USD into my steam wallet
Bully Club Mk 2 slap punch 
yee to the haw
Talking about chance to crit as well.
BTW a tech question. is 5000 MB/s Read 4500 MB/s write SSD good enough for gaming?
yes
I installed a second SSD in my laptop
I like knife
my main SSD is like 7k MB/s read and 6k write
I like you 
It's fine for gaming dude
I like your funny words, magic man
the read/write on a ps5 nvme is 7300/6600
5000 isnt the best of the best but like
Ohk
it's 10x better than a normal ssd
Nvme ssd I assume
I like you too 
Both are Gen 4 NVMes
It's right there on the motherboard
one is slower tho
5/10 extra% Is nice but not really meaningful considering most classes have like +20 to +30% Crit chances steroid in addition to the 20 from the blessing
Size?
2280
a sata 3 SSD can only ever attain 600 MB/S at best
and that's already quite a bit better than a hdd
the main SSD that came with my laptop is 960 GBs, the other one I installed myself is 450 GBs
Plus DS can afford to not Crit as long as you weakspot, you 2 hit crushers anyway with WS hit
Yeah already fine for gaming in my experience on a sata
Like a couple seconds loading
some games will actually need an nvme though
(assuming you have any form of DMG bonus from your class)
or want it to not see problems
Maybe lately
namely ps5 games
yeah like rachet and clank
loading between portals in the opening
When they've resorted to development shortcuts on UE5
@tropic zealot
nah they use a new technology that loads it very quickly
they can load large amounts of stuff very quickly with directstorage. even darktide uses it (ps5 has its own technology name for it, probably). im not exactly sure that darktide uses it very well, though
Yes but the knife does a little twirl thing when you switch to it
m.2 nvme's are fairly cheap for their size and speed, even a 500gb is enough for gaming at this point
yeh
I mainly bought the second NVMe to put linux
Cadia!!!
but then never ended up doing it
Quite big, impressive
Does it have a microsd
CLOSE, KILL, AND DO IT AGAIN!
Steam deck showed me gaming on a microsd storage isn't that bad, actually
https://youtu.be/VODSVVkKRD4 and this game is kinda getting old now
yeh it has a normal sd card slot
It's +15% for knoife. Tacaxe is +12%.
I'm hopping on Darktide soon, if you see a Ogryn named John.
No need to thank me with your token GGs for the carry. Just give my Ogryn extra rations.
the big sd card
Well that's an extra 1 tb or even more
The microsd goes in the big sd I think
yes
New character incoming
It can be removed from it
Judgement is coming to the cult
I have a 1tb microsd in my steam deck and the loading time isn't really a noticeable issue
MB then, but it still doesn't matter a lot since you can easily get to 50+% with DS, and that DS doesn't need crits to deal absurd DMG
question, if I just join someone and do a havoc 25 do I get the moebian pants? or do I need to get my own havoc level to 25
If psyker. Other classes, not so much.
It used to be that way.
Maybe not too swift, since one ability turns off sprint
what way
But that dog has the zoomies
Now I have to tell you... get the game DUSK
You'll have to level up to level 25 yourself.
It'll be fun
John romero said so
Zealot have +55% just with his talents and vet can easily get roughly +30% (max 45 btw) semi permanently what are you talking about
Judgment shall get there eventually

Lock in, die for Emperor.
He's got asthma he has to get his inhaler
With the weapon it's +25 guaranteed
I'll happily wait for the dlc to go on 25% sale
I cannot wait
I'm super excited
If you run with specific picks and piety. Psyker just goes right and...
Fellas fiending
isnt the dlc like 10 bucks
Cadian Ogryn = Peak S tier
From what I've heard it's going to be free
Fatshark, shadowdrop the arbites early and my life is yours
12 or 16 for deluxe
For you, we'll make it 9 
Vet however, I guess if you keep dodging.
What was the price in vt2 for classes
Im going deluxe, im a corporate shill
If you run the hyper meta build for zealot yes, which is the thing everyone in havoc ran for the last 6 month
No :(
I need that robo dowg skin
If you don't spam dodge in high havoc you're not havocing well
talents werent a thing at one point??
Sliiiide to the right
4 bucks
Does anyone else take a moment to appreciate the Darktide menu theme too before playing or is it just me?
Well there was like a simple skill tree
I want a chihuahua skin, because the cult aint people. They are VERMIN
I play zealot all the time I love spamming the purity thingy to keep my team safe

Usd 19 actually.
Complex talent trees weren't a thing at first yeah, it was VT2 style talents
Mongolian throat singing 
ah
If you mean Arbites deluxe.
Once, as veteran you could stand still and enemies would literally ignore you altogether
Yes it was like vermintide classes, one perk per 5 levels or smth, choose 1 of 3
I used it to shoot all the guys targeting the team, so I figure it was a good use of temporarily placing the aggro on them
With the bolter, which was kind of the best we had on vet at the time
You mean vet released as a ranged class? I dont believe you
You know, besides the lasgun mg 12
I demand a zealot rework man, I'm so bored of the rigidity of their talent tree

wdym, theres a lot of flexibility inside THE BUILD™️
Zealot I kind of breezed through, it felt like everyone else
Thing is, I have used both and knoife is better for chorus upkeep and if you plan to actually fight, you would just be going relic.
My.pathing through the tree was picking up all the ZOOM
Psyker was quite unique for having the flame staff
That was a big help early in the game's history
Yeah because the point of chorus upkeep is just to get CD back from crits, you don't care about the actual damage you dish out with the knife
It doesn't make the knife a better weapon overall, just a better Crit spam weapon
And the last class I leveled was ogryn, which was fun but didn't feel special either
Knife is definitely not as strong as the most broken weapon on the game for sure
But I come back later because someone publishes this guide called the ogrynomicon
And relic is way more fun than ds, but if you plan to fight and want the best option, DS is straight up better than relic by every possible metric except horde clear
I still find it dumb the fkn dueling sword goes through carapace armor with so much dmg...
And horde clear is the easiest shit to do even with a wet noodle
Hordes were harder in vermintide i feel
I never played it
Like in vermin tide felt like elites werent a huge deal, i needed to beat the horde. But with darktide its the opposite
Well I tried with my friend but they cranked it to hard difficulty and I didn't really like it
Naw, you get screwed by mixed hordes with DS if no room to abuse agile. At least relic can try to clear.
Like, DS 1 or 2 shot litteraly everything with super fast heavy, plus you can stagger spam with the special
Meanwhile relic deals decent DMG at best on carapace with long ass charged heavy, and you generally need at least 3 or 4 hits to kill carapace
It's not even a competition
I like how the knifes bleed doesnt care what im hitting
Does curio level mean anything?
If you have no room to abuse and no one on your team near you to help you fucked up hard to get to this position in the first place dude
Skill issue at this point
whats the proper combo to using DS btw
Yes curio level means smth for certian buffs
I kept buying better curios early on, idk
Apparently some curios lie if the level is low
none besides stamnia
Oh guess its just stamina then
Depends on the scenario, but most of the time for elite deletion it's heavy + special on repeat
It's havoc 40, things happen. Silent specials are a bonus due to just how many spawns.
rating 400 and below is fake +3
noted
@elder robin how many crusher head hits to kill?
also can I kidnap someone to help me with some havocs rq, need to get to 25 for the pants
stam curio needs 410 or higher to be a real +3
a real +#?
2 with DS4, 3/4 with charged relic
Plus number
Wow
Old people call it a pound sign
That is a bit extreme
And young people call it a hashtag
But you can kill multiple crushers with relic while is 1vs1 for DS.
I think I have to hit 3 times in the head with my 500 base damage shield to kill
With all the boosts usually
In those swings, that is.
If you manage to get cornered with a +50% movespeed and 6 dodge weapon I don't see how you somehow perform better with a relic blade that gives mediocre mobility
Also that's one of the reason why you usually pair ds with a flamer or a bolter, so you don't get overwhelmed
Silent muties can happen whether you seen them before or not.
With Fotf I can kill 4 or 5 crushers using ds before you finish your second with RS
One bad luck and you are now tossed into a shit spot.
Is that a bug? Pr intentional
Spidey mod
They taught the mutie to use their indoor voice
So cheat mods that some ppl can't use.
Or the AI for the mutie to roar didn't happen before it got to you
People wouldn't have to use it if the game worked properly
Is that. There's limited channels.
DS is prolly the better weapon, but this isnt new info tbf
You quite like this sticker don't you
Like it's literally called silent [monster name] because the game bugs out
Funny issue to have
is there anything one can rebind special to to make it easier to use'
definitely*
Apples to oranges tbh
We use the mod because there's no other option to fix it
Relic Sword is pretty close to what a balanced weapon should be
For that whole discussion
Yeah I have special on mouse 4 which is by my thumb
Sometimes the sound engine even crashes for a sec.
what mod?
Crusher and Relic are more comparable
Spidey Sense
G502 mouse I imagine it goes on sale fairly often
Yah
I agree, I love relic sword and I think it's one of the most well balanced weapon
But people trying to tell me that it's better than ds are delusional
It lets u know when things are happening around you
In terms of everything it brings to the table they can be compared
Spider sense
I never liked it myself, doesnt do alot of cool stuff.
Now force sword does cool stuff i can block bullets and make cool sword noises when i use it
Along with certain triggers, like net launches or dog pounces
Not really
Relic has okay single target, good horde, and bad mobility
The relic exceeds so tremendously in horde clear and armor cleave to the dueling sword it kills a fair comparison
The weapons change, letting people change their weapons freely at the mechanicus
That should have been how the game launched
And vice versa for single target
DS has amazing single target, okay horde, amazing mobility
In terms of overall power, it is bringing more
It's a horde crowd control weapon with opportunities to deal massive single target damage
crusher is pretty crazy imo
Dueling sword is a single target weapon with very poor, nigh ineffective, crowd control properties

And yet flamer is easily considered more powerful overall
It also has insane carapace DMG, which is huge
Relic Blade is so good at everything you dont even necessarily need to run a bolter
only thing crusher struggles with is carapace (as always, basically) but it can at least stun a bunch of them with the charge
Carapace enemies are a small fraction
Not against Crushers
You're almost there with the picture I'm trying to paint
Ppl forget to activate relic, it sounds like.
And not against hordes
Just because their specialization is different doesn't mean you can't compare the two
I know they are challenging but most of the time we are dealing with other guys
"More powerful" in their respective scenarios
push button hard
Shooters, common shooters are a huge issue
And if you totally remove context
Fgs > relic/ds4 
In high havoc it's literally half of ennemies who are carapace
Yah as like, literally the one thing they don't do well
Reject zealot play psyker
But if you break it down in a way that isn't nigh fastiduously reductive then u can make more productive an assessment
If you gave Zealot FGS, sure.
They can do crushers but they don't excel at it
And yah fgs sweeps both lmfao
Great single target, great horde, screen wipe with no risk nor investment
Flamer is awful against specials too, it's arguably it's worst performance
Play the better class and die to 1 hit if you make mistakes 😤
I felt like I could finish off crusher a bit better with psyker 2h force sword lol
It's not reductive to say that a nuclear bomb is generally more powerful than a sniper rifle
Like, you don't kill crushers but they're slow af while specials runs at you mach 13
Those arent comparable
A sniper rifle can hit someone real fast and real good from far away
Rejected. I play at 300-400 ping already on H40.
Be squishy and explosive
Think for a moment about thst comparison
But a nuclear bomb is doing more damage faster
Of course I only had to because the team fell behind and I had to pick them up, painstakingly
The nuclear bomb does what the rifle does as well as does stuf fthe rifle doesnt
It's so outlandish idk what ur talking about
Play local server and carry your sea people
Isnt flamer more used since it doesnt care about mob density.
So it's damage per ammo expended is crazy high when alot of enemies are around
A better comparison would be something like an assault rifle to a sniper rifle
I'm grateful for the learning experience because I need to branch out from ogryn
Nu, I don't carry. 
That's the whole point
The overall power level of one thing is higher than the other
Lie and slander
Yep it has an infinite ammo efficiency in theory
They have some overlap but not much, and one is so good at what it does their roles arent very comparable in terms of which is better than the other
Yet the sniper rifle gets to the target faster
Ratling next class
Nu, you lie.
@grim spoke
U need 2 see this
Scroll up
It's quite shrimple
🍿
That's just not true with the relic blade and dueling sword? You've totally lost the forest for the trees
I'm not comparing on specialization, I'm comparing on overall power
Which is what I said about ten times now
Karien meanie
The relic blade does some of what the ds can do, but not nearly as well, as the user stated in the 5 to 1 crusher ratio
But it totally sweeps in horde clear to the point you cant compare "this weapon OVERALL better than other weapon (ds better than relic)" because the argument is so reductive
WDYM? I ask you to carry me like all the time. 
Ogryns rations might go missing, its too dangerous of a new class
Someone said the ds is better than relic overall cuz it does its job, single target, better than relic
Said it wasnt a good comparison cuz it's super reductive
Spiralled on from there
2h force sword seems to protect the psyker against general hordes better, mixing it in with blitz and staff work, but on its own it's hard to beat the deimos iv
DS can manage itself in horde, and can instantly destroy all real threats within a horde of trash enemies
I said it totally strips context to what makes the weapons good and that making an overall claim over which wpn is better than the other kinda misses the point entirely
It doesn't murderize everything but it does what it has to, and then some
RS does what it has to, and that's it

And then the comparison of me saying that's like saying a nuke isnt comparable to a sniper rifle because one is clearly better
Not the same specialization, but a power imbalance is still there
And I thought that was hilarious
Plus RS has the heat to manage
Ds maybe can horde clear in normal mode but in havoc it does nothing to horde
eh, depends on the scale of the argument
singular weapon vs singular weapon? yeah kind of reductive, they have similar power levels yet fulfil different roles
build compared to build? ds is better due to horde clear not being that important due to flamer existing
I had a nutty battle where the trifecta of smite, electro staff and 2h force sword just happened to clutch
i guess the point here is that it isnt just about math/highest value of damage, it's about use cases as well
By normal, you mean malice.
Just weapon to weapon
That was it
I said it was like trying to say the helbore is better than the flamer when they have totally different roles
Or vice versa
I don't have it to the point where I can meta venting shriek but in my opinion as a fragile psyker, that was peak gaming, I was always walking the edge of just dying and it being over
...Which is another point in my favor, since discussions about a weapon's place in the meta doesn't make sense without considering the rest of the meta
Against crushers, for example, and because one is better than the other at crushers (its job) then the other weapon is worse overall
In damnation. Its slow but you can horde clear eventually. Havoc horde good luck with ds xd
All I was sayin was it was too reductive to draw any meaningful conclusion on overall performance
yes
Yes, but you swing relic 3-4 times and everything infront of you is dead.
Masterful assessment, sire
They just don't have similar powers : DS does way more overall, have higher mobility and no heat mechanic to manage. DS has only one weakness which is horde clear (the easiest thing to compensate anyway), while relic blade has 2 major weaknesses (heat and mobility), mid carapace damage at best and a lot of downtime spend activating and deactivating the sword
Epic embed snailure
Tru relic very good horde clear in havoc
horse clear?
150 cards
honse
how many horses are there
I love having a job i hate
MB, zebras
I can just waste time yapping on discord
I know you know. 
But only 16 minutes went by
Clearly enough for us to care about clearing
We need another meaningless thing to argue about
Dog complains coming soon
Ragebait
2 truths and a lie
Fgs best horde clear
We need more arbites leaks
Someone is asking to be shot.
THAT'S PSYKER. PSYKER IS LITERALLY HORDE CLEAR THE CLASS.
rage "bait" no fun...makes lil un's argue with each other, which makes runk sad 
U get a 10 second heavily edited gameplay trailer set in sedition
Call me when the relic blade gets a final fantasy ass ENERGY SLICER
my Shaggus&Scoobidus is eager to kill criminal scum
No, someone said Signalis is mid.
Runk tuah
That person is asking for a bullet to the skull
noooo ahaha where did that happen

Why do you have to shout? 
(getting around to finishing my playthrough of it, peak)
mobility isnt really that bad, zealot has good base dodges
single target as a whole is really good on single target, still better than many other weapons, it just isnt DS single target
great horde clear lets u take other ranged weapons without having to worry about hordes nearly as much
Grr..

branx best hoarde clear
if anyone is not 'avin' good night I give good 'ugs if you want one
Fatshark gives arbites free damage, community: 😡

Because!
the woke is infesting darktide
I mean, pay2win.
ermm.. women not having boobz am i right
woketide
U have a signalis pfp and just look at me
Discord users being queer? Wtf?
the she/herbetes class is forcing pronouns onto the "heretics" (the american patriots)
Can see it's ragebait from 5 Shedletskys away
its a sad day today
I just want talk about killin' 'eretics, can't we just beat skulls in instead of arguing 
I woke up
my enforcer's pronouns are she/harharharhar and she name is freddy five night
fedy 5 nite?
Bear 5 ?
notice how its "heretics"? and they're the bad guys?
HERetics.
and the HERetics are shown forcing others into other HERetics
just like the woke agenda,,,,
And WED HAVE EVERY SKIN COLOUR FIGHTING FOR THE SAME CAUSE
Mini skirt skins for all men NOW obese fish
Woa.

I thought he does that now for like 50k dockets?
i dont know where im going with this actually
i cant think of anything else
And yoked ass thighs too
uhm
I didn't say it was for free
woketide?
Last I checked I don't think sex change operations are free
They told us this would happen, the women would get 40k and turn it 40gay
fuck did I do
I'm kidding
If WARHAMMER WAS WOKE
40k is for everyone lol
im gonna draw nurgle fucking you
Yuri gud.
holy peak..
ok nevermind then PAY ME to draw nurgle fucking you
That because WOMAN are gay.
Thats why i only fuck dudes
make whatever that stupid knife ear god he has trapped in a cage watch
For GAYDIA
The ratio of gooner mods to gameplay mods for stellar blade is like 30:1 
Exactly man
draw elster and ariane living a happy life together
actually better yet can someone get this damn heretic
My battle brothers only
too little or too high for you
nah, eternal suffering for thee
Me killing everything and everyone while they talk about sub culture politics equally and without mercy, true diversity:
All equal in death Sah!
||not enough|| 
radiation frozen sleep upon yee
Emperor: Good, now kill more.
christ
John Gaydia
Yes sah!
I only have 1 outfit modded so far though im actually not that bad yet. But it's hard to play....
yet
we have
ultrakill: gay robot sex
signalis: yuri robot sex
i have a lot of power now
yuri!!!!!!
I was only gone for a minute Sah!
where the fuck are these secret cutscenes in both games

Because they keep making it worse.
you have to pay me for em
Gay and yuri? What about yaoi and lesbian
YURI JECTS
Yuri best.
I was baited by an art plug... 
I'm a little confused but i won't complain about taller than space marine custodes women, I mean imagine seeing that as a guardsman
wtf happen to general 😭
It's now gayneral
Lol literally gone for a minute and general chat devolved into more cringe.
Too many gooners here
Okay I feel a bit responsible
Ough ough I'm cading it I'm cading it
takes one to know one
chat ive laid with this maiden while chanting "THE EMPEROR PROTECTS" yet she got pregnant, could she be a heretic who caused the emperors holy light to weaken?
cadia stands, but gaydia sits on toys
I cannot think of a change discord has made in the past like...year or two ish that I actually thought was a good change, it's been dogshit change after dogshit change

Oof ow oof ow I've sat on a sprue
Im not that bad and not gay
Stepping on sprues is legit more painful that lego
the wedding is in 3 hours btw
sorry we made it woke
AN ACTUAL 40K PLAYER IN DARKTIDE?
I'm making chaos arbites
I call them
The goon platoon
THATS HERESY
Either that or Arbitraitors
it is late at night, it's when the fuckery begins
Old news, been like how many years since the trend of enshittifiying Discord started.

Arbitraitors sound cheesy as hell
You have to get the context
I was trying to be generous but yes
Normal Darktide enjoyers: Hey guys, cool game. I wanna talk about the lore and what's happening on Atoma Prim-
Crazy person: Muh #$_&$#/)-%{$
Everyone: 
by depicting you as a "crazy person" and myself as the "normal person" i have won this argument

40k and judge dredd comic pretty much happened at the same time
Brother think he Dr house 😭 😭 😭 this man needs mouse bites
Literally happens every once in awhile. That's the Internet for yah.
enshittification is saddening
Maybe 2000 AD was sooner even

You are inferior to Steelyaoi
its dr richoet

Dr House soloes
me after too much darktide general chat
this vexes me
Silence weeb

Opinion invalid 🗿
Have you tried the medicine drug

2000 AD was 10 years before 40k and probably an influence on it
this bitch dont know about signalis
its not an anime
also

So you have to accept that judge dredd made 40k in some regard
???
For 3 years
stuck in 2020,,,,
Brother is behind the times

I'm beaning the fuck out
oooohhghgg im beaaannniiiinnng
I'm beaning all over the screen
Here's the beaner
LMFAO
anyone wanna run some havocs so I can try and reach 25 for pants?
lost once and everyone left
I'm John beandia
too lazy to wait 15 mins again for a party
I eat a lot of beans, I'm british
#vox-lfg-nasa might be better
Just buy pants broke muthatrucker
beanmaxxing
nuh
Depends on their region tbh.
I just shat my ass
i'm going to retreat to the class channels now
We actually have a huge melting pot of food here in the uk
Not really mexican, but spanish
Yeah the pots fucking melted there's no good food
They cant be better then here
You know Zealot mains is usually worse.
Spanish, chinese, indian, I could go on
"We have a huge melting pot of food" and it's gruel, sausage and peas
The right genre but the wrong artist i get it
at least there can be actual discussions
None of which are british
We have had then for like a hundred years
But if you want the most anglo thing I'd say maybe the full english breakfast
Yet you can't figure out how to use spices
Which america assumes its own
Indian food is technically british food if you go back far enough
Just with pancakes, for some reason
Heck they owned like a third of the earth
get uhh
good sticker
bacon egg n cheese
The only Anglo I'm taking is the 360 I'm pulling to walk outta england
India came over here and made tikka masala which is fucking delicious
There's no reason to gatekeep food
Angloing my nuts rn
Just enjoy it
I really am
My man's on his cooking journey
never forget gordon ramsay is british
In darktide
But really americans don't realise the uk is a melting pot just like them
dont fight it just let it happen
He still manages to mess up stuff.
I doubt anyone would forget that. Lol
Maybe even more so
Can't believe it had to be said.
I think its inevitable, no? Gotta fail in order to learn
Usually when people talk shit about UK food they aren't talking about the food from the places they colonized
hes bri#ish?
land of the free
have to pay money
???

No modern country really owns a food, they just stole the idea from someone else or the idea is so simple its not even an invention.
Like hamburg didnt invent putting meat between bread. Pizza is just a flatbread dish that grew its own fanbase and had good PR, i could go on
They are talking shit about things they don't know
Truly, a clown world
stealing is free
So beans on toast
It was like a melted cheese toast or something.
We live in a susciety
beans on toast is the only thing
Which is just one component of the full english breakfast
My favorite British snack is my girlfriend tbh
no. it is the ONLY THING
(I love her)
My favorite British snack is warhammer plastic
I blame you!
TRUE
Dman go be cute in her DMs

You need to let go of your faulty knowledge man
my favorite british snack is also this guys girlfriend
Nottingham grade plastics
Don't need to VENT it out then
She bites me a fuckton though
The full english breakfast is the origin of the american diner
Sharpest goddamn incisors
she bites US"
Are you perchance her favourite snack
communism brother
Ew
I know it's hard to swallow
actually nvm
Yeah no fucking shit British food is ass





