general-chat

[maiden jacinth]

Don't you just want like 200 health?

Or was it 300

[fast cosmos]

Eh

[maiden jacinth]

So you're safe from being bustered to below 1 wound

[safe adder]

i'm a zealot who uses 99% relic blade

[fast cosmos]

Toughness is more important than health

[silver mango]

I have 273 toughness on my vet

[tame hemlock]

bro fell for it

[silver mango]

I am shooketh

[maiden jacinth]

Toughness is important but you want enough health for your wounds to be valuable. If you're not running any bonus wounds

[safe adder]

i can get 100% toughness instantly with double zealot ability as well

[maiden jacinth]

And the only person who cares about wounds in the game is marty zealot

[tame hemlock]

toughness regen only applies to coherency toughness so it's useless

it stops as soon as you're in melee combat

[gentle cedar]

It wouldn't be useless if it was % based like all other toughness regens in the game

[safe adder]

BRUH

[silver mango]

I'm swapping it out for something else

[safe adder]

all i do is melee combat

i'm switching it all for corruption resistance

[maiden jacinth]

I don't think ogryn could die if toughness regen bonus was as people thought it was

[safe adder]

people say ogryn is the best for not going down but zealot with 5 second invincible 2min cd instead of going down is so good

[tame hemlock]

4% combat ability regen, 5% toughness and 12% stamina regen are my go-tos

[maiden jacinth]

Ogryn just has an amazing amount of toughness gain

[safe adder]

my skill tree does ability regen so much that would barely make a scratch

i get like x4 ability cd speed after melee headshot

[tame hemlock]

it def makes a difference

[maiden jacinth]

Why do people care so much about combat skill regen

[tame hemlock]

it's a 12% on top of whatever else you have

[tame hemlock]

havoc

[safe adder]

tbf on zealot it keeps me alive otherwise hp gets deleted

[fiery wave]

Where even a sec means life or death.

[tame hemlock]

seconds on ult can make or break havoc, you're supposed to use ult off cooldown and never hold onto it

[delicate vapor]

Gloop hivemind

[safe adder]

why isn't corruption resistance popular

3x 15% i could have 45% reduced purple hp forever

[tame hemlock]

because it doesn't matter

[zealous shadow]

h40 would be more fun if ther weren't hordes every 5 feet

[safe adder]

why not genuine question

[maiden jacinth]

I just thought that with curious having 9 competitive slots you'd be more interested in enemy mitigation like bombers and gunners

[zealous shadow]

it felt like i spent more time killing hordes than actually playing the game

[maiden jacinth]

Than maybe getting 2 or 3 seconds on your abilities

[tame hemlock]

if you're missing health you can't get it back without a medstim or medicae which already cleanse corruption. exception is medkits but they're not common and it doesn't make or break the game

[fiery wave]

There is literally 1 use, and you need to go max hp. To prevent full corruption bar if overheaded in h40.

[thick coyote]

That's the only thing keeping me on havoc

[tame hemlock]

other better perks with 100% uptime compete with it too

[thick coyote]

I love hacking and slashing through hordes

[safe adder]

oh yeah that makes sense i was imagining a dog doing like 45% leas damage to me

[tame hemlock]

+15% toughness from 3 toughness perks is always valuable, 32% stamina regen from 3 stamina perks is always in effect, 12% reduced ability cd means you get to use your ult 12% more often

block efficiency and sprint efficiency are other good ones

gunner damage resist can come in clutch too

[safe adder]

i'm like about to start doing aurics coz normal 5 difficulty i've done a lot of now

[fiery wave]

And you could have a beacon zealot anyway.

[safe adder]

my curios are now 15% hp 15% toughess 12% ability cd

[maiden jacinth]

But will you use your ult as often as its up

I'm sure there's downtime or timing for best use of it

[safe adder]

i had 3 wasted slots with toughness regen i didn't know coherence regen stops in melee

thats sad

[fiery wave]

I remember run where we kept joking about the corruption damage being cleansed.

[tame hemlock]

in havoc where there's constant hordes you're always fighting

[maiden jacinth]

Though doesn't it depend on what class you're on?

Ogryn has a talent for getting CD on elite. And there's plenty of them

[tame hemlock]

hardly, ever ult gives instant value during a fight

[maiden jacinth]

Can't remember if zealot had similar

[tame hemlock]

yeah and 12% reduced cooldown stacks with that

[fiery wave]

More ults good.

[tame hemlock]

it's a constant 12% off any time your ult is on cooldown, and imagine your whole team has that too

[safe adder]

zealot gets like 400% cooldown speed for 4 seconds on melee criticals, my 30sec cooldowns are usually more like 8 seconds while cleaving heads

[gentle cedar]

And if you have a psyker worth their salt, they have CD Aura and PsyAura for a ton more

[modest flume]

Remember

When surrounded by enemies, yell at them to hurt their feelings and they go away

[maiden jacinth]

I just thought with the prevalence of bombers wnd gunners they'd be more desirable than 1 or 2 seconds

[modest flume]

Emperor bless our sacred lungs

[maiden jacinth]

I know it can add up

But to me that feels you'd only get value on longer CD ults

[gentle cedar]

Most ults are 30 seconds, almost 4 seconds off is great

[dry pebble]

have you guys seen that, in the extended gameplay trailer, there is an Arbites with a solo maul instead of a maul+shield combo? I wonder if the maul and the shotpistol can be used without the shield, like different marks of the same weapon

[maiden jacinth]

Yeah, but how about I raise you +10% dockets

[gilded crown]

Vermintide 2 > Darktide

[thick coyote]

Bait used to be believable

🚬

[maiden jacinth]

What's the opposite of master

[thick coyote]

This is like what

3rd time you posted that

[modest flume]

[elder oasis]

Yeah the solo Maul was mentioned somewhere.... cant recall where

Some are saying its a two hander

[dry pebble]

Oh nice i didnt read that

i hope the solo shotpistol is good

if there is one

[elder oasis]

There was also a pc gamer article that mentioned every action skill and blitz

So now its just those keystones we have no idea about

And all the itty bitty nodes of course

[thick coyote]

Blitz are the impact nade, mine and boom dog

[elder oasis]

Crazy how they are deleting psyker for that mine

[dry pebble]

I read the pc gamer article

Lmao true, its the smite grenade

[modest flume]

My condolences

[thick coyote]

A different flavor of Zealot stun

[dry pebble]

Good point

If its just a better zealot stun im going to be sad

[thick coyote]

It's a mine so it probably doesn't have the same range

[elder oasis]

I guess the 3 flavours of arbites will be dogtide, damage, and tank

[elder oasis]

Yeah prolly, less range but stays in place for a while so good for fire and forget area denial

[thick fog]

Arbites is mini Ogryn real

[modest flume]

Ogryn is better Arbites

[thick coyote]

It would be a real shame if I used smite juggling to throw enemies at the mine

[elder oasis]

Yeah the tank side will be reminiscent of ogryn i imagine. But perhaps with more CC options

And different weapons i spose

[dry pebble]

Im guessing the arbites is more cc focused then tanky

[elder oasis]

Apparently it will be the tankiest human class

[dry pebble]

Oh damn

[thick coyote]

You can't sprint during the stance ability
But you're also immune to speed penalties

Pop it and waddle away from BoN

[dry pebble]

dont let it eat you

[keen vapor]

Very CC heavy if you ask me, that shock mine, the dog, and bird as well. Probably really good are horde management.

[elder oasis]

Which makes sense, arbites are armoured up and have shields. Should be tankier imo

[elder oasis]

As well as the special action on the shield!

And foot knight shield charge

[keen vapor]

Also, dog-grenade. You see it in action in the gameplay trailer due the spawn attack

[dry pebble]

The shotgun has a large horizontal spread too, and apparently it was so much better then the other shotguns that fatshark buffed the others

[elder oasis]

They were on low diff, but it seems it one shot the specials if even just some of the spread hit the head.

Was a 4 shot kill into the reaper i think

[keen vapor]

Its nothing but duckbill shot in that thing, I am in love with it. Funny enough, the idea for the duckbill choke was for police crowd control! With birdshot, not buck, mind you

[thick coyote]

About damn time

[elder oasis]

Dogs were 2 shots

[dry pebble]

oh, i have read it in this article: https://www.pcgamesn.com/darktide/arbites-class-preview

"The Arbites Shotgun is particularly powerful - so much so that Fatshark has had to rebalance all the existing shotguns to help them match up to the newcomer's might"

[elder oasis]

Shotguns deserve the love

[dry pebble]

The gameplay trailer was inconclusive lol

[elder oasis]

Neglected little bastards

[keen vapor]

I will be using NOTHING but shotguns with my arbite lass

At least at the start anyways, I am looking forward to makin' a bolter build

[elder oasis]

Hey the arbites might get some other goodies. Look at the exaction squad.... some cool options there

[dry pebble]

I hope for a grenade launcher in the future

[keen vapor]

Vet, Arbite, and Zealot all need a heavy stubber of their own as well

[elder oasis]

Could get the first heavy machine gun on a human

[elder oasis]

Yes i want one that has special ammo shock or stun grenades

[keen vapor]

Different marks for different ammo maybe?

[elder oasis]

Yes that could be a thing like the shotgun

[weary pilot]

10 days

[dry pebble]

yeaah imagine the build potential with the shock grenades - i heard somewhere the arbites has a skill that deals more damaged to electrified enemies

Explains the amount of shock weapons

[keen vapor]

But like, its nothing but that ammo. So, you get three marks. 1 is explosive and has maybe 32 rounds? 2 can be shock with 24 round. 3 is fire with a measly 12.

[weary pilot]

I have enough ppto to call out Tuesday

I am off Monday

[jovial pine]

inb4 arbites launch breaks the game for exactly as long as your pto

[dry pebble]

monday the other person on my department is starting their vacation period so im fucked and cant get a day off

[weary pilot]

I have 63 pto

[keen vapor]

I want to call in sick or vaca but I work at home so I can just... play when I finish some production

[fiery wave]

To be fair, all shotguns felt bleah. DB is just okay.

[keen vapor]

DB is great, for sure

[dry pebble]

Yeah i think the shotguns in this game are not good

except for the ogryn ones

Kickback my beloved

[fiery wave]

Kickback still fails to one shot midrange with surgical+run&gun.

[dry pebble]

it does, but its damn fun to use at least

[fiery wave]

I tried blaze away+run&gun to no real diff.

[weary pilot]

Killing whole hordes with a single blast

All hail the kickback

[delicate vapor]

smack

[dry pebble]

this tbh

[thick coyote]

Ok but asking for a mid range kill with a Spread like that is crazy work

💀

[keen vapor]

I usually use the kickback to punts some poxers away from teammates and use the rock for anything at range. That's me tho

[weary pilot]

Everything must one shot

Everything must be balanced for level 3000 havoc 40 solo players

[dry pebble]

its a fun time i love it

[fiery wave]

It's just a standard gunner though.

[thick coyote]

Nah
Solo and Havoc players like they game with some hard in it

[keen vapor]

A great time even, though I've been playing more vet recently just to get used to being squishy

[weary pilot]

Meta and balance nerds can get a rock to the head

[fiery wave]

It even failed to weakspot kill a sniper once.

Also midrange.

[thick coyote]

Balancing for one shotting everything is more for skill issued players that don't want to improve but still want to beat the hardest conditions

Smh

[fiery wave]

I made it to kill snipers though lul.

[jovial pine]

glorp

[delicate vapor]

Gloop

[keen vapor]

One shotting is fine but sometimes you just need to beat a motherfucker over the head with a shovel for five minutes to really understand how to dodge and play

[weary pilot]

The dog took 10 secs to kill a mauler in the trailer NOOOOO ITS COMPLETELY USELESS THEN

[keen vapor]

The amount of people I see with 'meta' builds that just can't function under Malice levels of difficulties make me sad inside

[dry pebble]

i think the kickback has suprising sniper moments but its not built for that - you gonna find better results with the precision stubber or the grenadier gauntlet

[weary pilot]

OR THE ROCK

[dry pebble]

true

rock wins

[fiery wave]

Former takes too long to pull out, latter sucks at 100+ ping.

[dry pebble]

lmao high ping fucking sucks yes

[keen vapor]

GG takes too much skill for some people to even bother with it. Which is sad, its a great tool of a weapon

[dry pebble]

The gauntlet is so good right, more people should use it

[fiery wave]

I use it on a build specifically to help MM, chances are, I'm on 300-400 ping.

[elder oasis]

Imagine if it killed it in .5 lol

Its a passive you get for free, everytime 6 maulers spawn now you know one is guarenteed dead for nothing

[fiery wave]

So GG is out of the question.

It's like impossible to hit anything with it.

[round mica]

Oof

[dry pebble]

damn, i think ping is your biggest enemy

[fiery wave]

Hitscan or bust basically.

[dry pebble]

not the cultists

[keen vapor]

You can still use it as another melee weapon, just special punch motherfuckers with it

[weary pilot]

So true

[fiery wave]

Then who is shooting the sniper?

[round mica]

It did take me awhile to get into the gg ngl

[weary pilot]

[round mica]

The special is v good

[fiery wave]

The bots?

[keen vapor]

Pray to Big E you have a competent vet

[fiery wave]

MM.

What vet? The 2 bots?

Okay.

[dry pebble]

that just reminded me the bots in this game need a rework so bad

[round mica]

The bots have been really stupid in NY experience lately lmao

[fiery wave]

The other player is psyker. And lets be fair, most are newer players or ppl just finally bothering with it. I don't expect the former to be hunting specials well.

[keen vapor]

Yeah that could be a problem, hell, the ping alone would make anything like that difficult. Also, pardon my ignorance with the lingo but what the fuck is MM?

[round mica]

Had one trying to revive someone get instantly caught by the net , everyone's down but me and surrounded by crushers and what not I'm down to my zealot survivability thingy where I go immune have to kite everything around twice before going and rescuing one person then we all wipe cause I get netted

[fiery wave]

Monstroum Malleum. Or so.

Psyker penance.

[keen vapor]

OH GOD

[fiery wave]

I had to basically solo heresy one time...

Because the psyker was like lvl 12.

[keen vapor]

Oh that's pure pain. I haven't even done that one yet and I got two buds that are competent at the least. Mind you I am a shit psyker

[silver mango]

you know I've never thought of it

[delicate vapor]

[silver mango]

what does suppression do

[fiery wave]

I rather them host because I can deal with lag.

[fiery wave]

Makes them cower.

[dry pebble]

Makes the bad guys shoot badly and cower in fear

[round mica]

Oh man I suck at psyker

[silver mango]

no what does suppression do to you

[keen vapor]

Make you inaccurate when trying to shoot back

[round mica]

Makes ya epileptic while your aiming

[fiery wave]

Your aim goes to dook if not like certain gun.

[round mica]

And slow

[fiery wave]

Your camera kicks like a horse.

[silver mango]

so taking suppression immunity is a good idea right

[dry pebble]

It depends

[fiery wave]

Nope.

Generally not worth it.

[silver mango]

oh ok

[round mica]

It really depends

Somebuilds it works

[fiery wave]

You are taxed way too much already.

[round mica]

But if you can avoid needing it

Then avoid it

[elder oasis]

I be truthing fr fr

[zealous shadow]

just shoot the enemy before it shoots you

or just suppress them back

[fiery wave]

Basically. Or toss a 'nade.

[zealous shadow]

you dont even need to hit them, if you shoot near them they'll just cower even if they have the number advantage

[round mica]

When in doubt frag it out

[dry pebble]

The veredict is that its not that useful and there are ways to avoid supression but hey if you really need it then go ahead

[silver mango]

I have kraks I'm afraid

[elder oasis]

You would too if the person shooting at you is covered in the blood of hundreds of your comrades XD

[dry pebble]

Running diagonally and sliding avoids enemy fire, and just shooting in the shooters direction might supress them and give you some breathing room

[round mica]

Sliding is easy way to close gaps I find

[elder oasis]

Especially at the speed you can gap close with some weapons

[round mica]

Slide , push , CRUMP

[faint isle]

Old trick is to keybind crouch to ALT so you can shift+alt slide around and avoid 90% of shooting

[silver mango]

New trick is to bind crouch to w so your ass can't move

[harsh rune]

i have crouch bound to shift and sprint on mouse 4

[dry pebble]

Glacier gameplay

[round mica]

I always do the try to slide but end up crouching cause I mess the sprint up

[dry pebble]

I bound ping to alt because i will NOT take my finger out of the shooting buttons to press the fucking mouse wheel

[round mica]

I try to make sire I'm atleast sprinting for 2 seconds now tho

[fiery wave]

Just toss with lethal prox. Still spooks to a degree from memory. Don't ask me why I know.

[faint isle]

Dont your middle finger rest on wheel?

[dry pebble]

Im afraid not

I wasnt taught mouse etiquette

[harsh rune]

lmao i don’t either

[glossy bear]

You complete and buffoon,
I never said im british

Im Romanian

[dry pebble]

My middle finger stays on rmb most times

[elder oasis]

Yeah i might rebind my ping too

[glossy bear]

https://tenor.com/view/romanian-anti-air-romania-anti-air-gif-25843679

[jovial pine]

I cant read

[round mica]

Whats the layout of the other fingers

I'm curios

Oh no wait no I do the same

[dry pebble]

thumb on side buttons, index on lmb, middle rmb and the other are just there i guess

gripping the mouse

[round mica]

Iv had a few beers my bad

[dry pebble]

lmao its okay

I might be using the mouse non optimally but its really hard to change 10+ years of muscle memory

[round mica]

I wouldn't worry I also use the mouse like that when on pc

I think 90% of people use em like that

[faint isle]

I have 36 years of mouse muscle memory, glad i went with middle finger on wheel back in the day i suppose

[elder oasis]

Your keyboard is prolly not optimal as well, but not many people get custom boards for perfect gameplay

[faint isle]

Wheels only came around like maybe, early 00s?

[jovial pine]

smh not having middle finger on middle mouse button

[dry pebble]

i went to wikipedia and scroll wheels were first released on commercial mouses on 95

i touched my first pc in like 07 or 06

it probably had a wheel

[faint isle]

Yeah i guess late 90s models went with wheels and laser

[round mica]

Man must have been annoying before scroll wheels to use the computer

[jovial pine]

half life 1 used scroll wheel im p sure

[faint isle]

Imagine not having mouse UI at all, just dos prompt where you type

[dry pebble]

to change weapons, right? I think it shared the bind with the number keys iirc

[hardy anvil]

I remember having to clean the track ball

[dry pebble]

Bro i was SO GLAD when the ball was totally replaced by optical

[jovial pine]

yeah

[round mica]

I did like how mouses used to have some weight to them tho

[marsh iris]

i keep jumping over high railings for no reason

[round mica]

Cause of the ball

[dry pebble]

Some good mouses have a weight on them these days, mine does and it feels good to use

[dry pebble]

suicidal tendencies

[jovial pine]

heavier is worse for the most part

[dry pebble]

it might be non optimal but i guess the preference depends on the person

i find light mouses are hard to be precise with but thats me

[round mica]

I like heavy mice because it makes me feel like I'm operating machinery

[jovial pine]

25000 dpi, 40g mouse. take it or leave it

[dry pebble]

Admech roleplay

[dry pebble]

i refuse

[round mica]

Eh I could use a 40g one I reckon

[dry pebble]

the problem is the high dpi

[jovial pine]

hardest part would be the dpi in so many games

[round mica]

Yeah I'd be very inaccurate

[faint isle]

Author & Punisher does the same with his midi controllers, makes em like heavy industrial machines

[weary pilot]

True, not as much as me if we going true for true but still true

[faint isle]

His music would fit in on the background of Darktide pretty well

[dry pebble]

first time i checked in like 4 years of using my mouse but i apparently use 500 dpi with low sensitivity

we love heavy machinery

obligatory deep rock shill

[jovial pine]

should try to increase it to around 2000 since it has a bit of a response time advantage

barely matters though. matters even less past 2k dpi

[dry pebble]

didnt knew about that

[delicate vapor]

krak

[dry pebble]

kraking armor

[spice drift]

2k is my normal

[delicate vapor]

krak candy

[jovial pine]

theroetically speaking you should just max out your dpi

but games get glorped up

[spice drift]

20k or more is to much

[jovial pine]

since so many games lack sensitivity settings low enough to be playable

[dry pebble]

lmao what does glorped up means

[jovial pine]

fucked up

[dry pebble]

'ed up

[jovial pine]

https://tenor.com/view/glorp-deployed-alien-cat-gif-10264569409756179931

[round mica]

https://tenor.com/view/glorp-explosion-gif-7138394752046712707

[jovial pine]

that is the games's fault

[dry pebble]

i always thought low dpi and sens was the meta for competitive fps

[spice drift]

i stay by my 2 k is better for normal windows stuff

[jovial pine]

https://youtu.be/6AoRfv9W110

dpi science

I'm not really sure which is better for accurate shooting like in a competitive fps. either way might be good depending on the player, not counting the latency

[dry pebble]

huh

[round mica]

guys

i’ve done the math

[jovial pine]

[round mica]

i’ve drank diet cokes everyday for nearly a decade, and that’s approximately 21,915 of them

[jovial pine]

that is tragic

[round mica]

which equals out to 2,054 gallons

[dry pebble]

super cancer

[round mica]

no wonder i’ve lived for so long

[dry pebble]

a decade?

[jovial pine]

this could be the end smorgas, you never can tell

[delicate vapor]

It’s

[fast cosmos]

Dale gribble is immortal

[delicate vapor]

Dangerously cold

Here

I’m dying

[dry pebble]

turn on your pc and run cyberpunk on high with raytracing

[jovial pine]

use your pc to heat up

ye

[dry pebble]

great minds think alike aah situation

[jovial pine]

gotta overclock too

[dry pebble]

and use air cooling only

[modest flume]

Meanwhile Darktide apparently stutters with high DPI

[fiery wave]

Doesn't DT lack of optimisation do that already?

[delicate vapor]

I have to go pick up McDonald’s

[dry pebble]

lmao good point

[delicate vapor]

Friday night I’m wining

[outer jasper]

Darktide lacks optimization last time I checked

[jovial pine]

have to?? who is doing this to you elios

darktide wont work as well since it doesnt use gpu that well at times

[fiery wave]

It's blasting heat hot enough to keep my tea warm after 5 hours.

[weary pilot]

I like nurgle

I’ll say it my favorite chaos being

[fiery wave]

And it's not even directly.

[slim iris]

Me too

[weary pilot]

Wish there were more horde than just nurgle followers though

[slim iris]

Slaanesh would be second if it was properly represented and had good fans, but Tzeentch has gotta be second

[modest flume]

Chaos Undivided is the way to go

Do all things, at once even, and get rewarded for it all (turn into a Chaos Spawn)

[dry pebble]

i said before and i'll say it now - Ragers would be better as Khorne cultists and pox hounds as flesh hounds

[maiden jacinth]

Khorne would be very linear. They'd have to just do an undivided cult

[modest flume]

oh ffs, backend error

[maiden jacinth]

Tzeench warpflamers etc

[thick coyote]

Idk
Rabids is a thing
Just shove some into someone on steroids and watch it go crazy

[slim iris]

Be'lakor asking for a one dollar raise, immediately being smited by all four corporate lords who can only agree on the one tenet that they hate workers being paid

[weary pilot]

If fatshark had any stones on them they would release a new enemy faction

The rats

[maiden jacinth]

Rats don't exist

What are you on about

[slim iris]

All the models and attacks are the same

[weary pilot]

So true

[slim iris]

They just copy-pasted

[thick coyote]

There are no rat men under ubersreik

[dry pebble]

i think an undivided cult would have been amazing on darktide

[slim iris]

And also the super unreliable backstab attack noise is ported in too

And having to dodge in specific directions for some attacks

[dry pebble]

Imagine: trapper could be an slaanesh bdsm dipshit , flamers and bombers could be tzeentch

[marsh iris]

poxburster pure khorne

[dry pebble]

BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD and he bursts

[young verge]

real talk

[slim iris]

A lone pink horror barely visible in a corner before waddling away somewhere wouldn't make any sense at all but it would be a funny easter egg

[young verge]

why does the thunder hammer not default headshot regular ass dreg/scab enemies?

the melee ones whose name I forget

[slim iris]

Bruisers?

The ones with metal helmets and nakey chest or metal body armor?

[young verge]

bucket steve and ugly mcgee

[slim iris]

Yarp bruisers

[fiery wave]

GL with that. Game becomes R-21. Though to be fair, Slaanesh would be better for more story based game. Corruption by sheer indulgence... an offering of a good meal can even be the start of it.

[molten matrix]

horrors would be so funny to fight

[sullen robin]

when does rogue traders new thing come out again

[delicate vapor]

No IM going

[molten matrix]

in boltgun you can prevent horrors from duplicating by gibbing the body

[delicate vapor]

I have my iced chocolate

[slim iris]

Oh I was talking moreso about my favorite chaos in order

But yeah Slaanesh def works better in a story

[molten matrix]

24th

[slim iris]

Story-driven I should say

[molten matrix]

1 day after arbites releases

[delicate vapor]

5

[modest flume]

Come rest, weary traveler. I'm sure you're tired. How about a nice warm meal? Soup. I made soup. Freshest ingredients. Have some bread. Homemade. Oh, I know it's a reprieve from what you've been through. Are you still cold? How about a blanket? Wool.

[sullen robin]

eating good for summer surprisingly theyre also finally having ready or no on consol in july

[molten matrix]

are you stupid thats firebreak

[fiery wave]

Is a more nuanced side of chaos... the one where slow corruption can work. After all, all you need to do is indulge... and we all know how bad the Imperium can be at times.

[delicate vapor]

Nope

[dry pebble]

Slaanesh would be a really good fit for the daemonhost

[fiery wave]

Basically, an offer of a nice bed, good food and you are already treading the path.

[fast cosmos]

Slaanesh is excess. Not indulgence.

[weary pilot]

I wish

[marsh iris]

Lexcess

[slim iris]

Yes but indulgence is the dipping of your toes in the water

[weary pilot]

They kept the maulers from the trailer

[dry pebble]

ironically indulgence fits best with nurgle's stagnation shtick

[weary pilot]

Atleast a variant

[fiery wave]

You can indulge in excess. But things start from somewhere.

[weary pilot]

With the skull spikes

[fast cosmos]

Eating a nice meal and sleeping in a decent bed is not going to lead you to Slaanesh

[slim iris]

But letting yourself be pampered over and over might

[fast cosmos]

It's excess. Gluttony. Avarice.

[marsh iris]

perfection

[fiery wave]

A constant offering of more and better, a high quality buffet offered to the average person.

[thick coyote]

What do you mean?

[slim iris]

Yeah, we're not saying the blankie and soup is gonna corrupt 😭

[weary pilot]

Did you see the little differences in the dogs in the gameplay

[thick coyote]

Crucis L1 and L2 are basically headbonks

[dry pebble]

Slaanesh is perfectionism, excess, pleasure, pain - Nurgle is stagnation, acceptance, lazyness, and Nurgle himself is an enabler that wants to keep you painless and happy for all eternity while you are a rotting carcass of plague that cant change as a person

[delicate vapor]

Yuri

[slim iris]

Unless I guess someone put funny juice in it or something

[delicate vapor]

On ice

[thick coyote]

L3 is a sweep and deals even more damage than L1 and l2

[slim iris]

Oh god when did we add this one

[molten matrix]

if you feel comfortable at any time then a slaanesh is coming out of the warp to steal your soul from your butthole like a kappa

[modern bobcat]

We need some Arbites stickers

[delicate vapor]

Always

[weary pilot]

Like those sekiro enemies

[modest flume]

Ah yes, but they can criss-cross which is why they're buddies and not the others

[slim iris]

Do Slaanesh daemons also get countered by bowing to them

[elder oasis]

Slaanesh has some great books tbh

[dry pebble]

fucking daemons

[slim iris]

Sometimes they do yeah

[fiery wave]

All it starts was you accepting the offer to partake in a nice meal and a good rest. This is pleasure to the common person after all... luxury considering lowest classes.

[molten matrix]

a serial killer could fall to khorne or slaanesh

[elder oasis]

Very few truly undivided warbands. Its mostly just word bearers, as the other "undivided" warbands are more just a mix of the 4 gods.

Chaos undecided ty shi

[dry pebble]

Slaanesh is the type of "pride/greed/pleasure" corruption

[molten matrix]

can we permanently kill lucius already

[fiery briar]

I always liked the 'lesser aspects of the Gods

[molten matrix]

worst character in the setting and gets revived through bullshit

[modest flume]

Me, I'm undivided in hating all of them equally (champion of Malal)

[molten matrix]

the one time he actualy dies slaanesh revives him

[fiery wave]

Is a case of, ragh!!!! DIEDIEDIE! vs enjoying every cut, every slice, watching as someone bleeds out after you slit their throats.

[dry pebble]

we cant because everyone is going to be happy for killing him and he is reborn and has to bask in the fact that he is not the best because he got fucking killed

[fiery briar]

Slaanesh is passion, Khorn is smithing, Nurgle is regrowth and Tzeentch is hope, in their deep lore at least

[dry pebble]

magnus?

[thick coyote]

[elder oasis]

One EC who is a very "honorable knight" kind of archetype calls the daemonettes by endearing terms like "lady" and is all and all very courtly in his gestures while he "kills them"

[thick coyote]

They don't want to retire the sick ass armor

[dry pebble]

But yeah! The chaos gods are called that because they ironically have good aspects to them, but the galaxy was so fucked by the war in heaven and the eldars degeneracy that they got more evil then good

[elder oasis]

fabius brought him back the first time

[lapis tusk]

Do people not do mortis trials?

[dry pebble]

i dont personally

[fiery briar]

I don't care for 'hard +' missions

[lapis tusk]

I did 1 and i liked it but theres zero lobbjes

[elder oasis]

Thats more old lore, chaos is expanded on in the eldar books and the daemons actually predate the war in heaven

For example vashtorr existed before the necrons became necrons

[dry pebble]

Ah. i forgot about the new eldar lore

[thick coyote]

They probably played enough and are waiting on updates

[lapis tusk]

Thats fair

[fiery briar]

I know Nurgle was born during the Dark Ages, and Khorn after the first murder, so I think only Khorn would remember a time before the War in Heaven

[slim iris]

Not sure if I'm thinking of the same guy because I only saw it from a YT short but there was a marine that asked a daemonette if he could kill her politely or something and she just goes "oooo a gentleman, sure but make it slow" or something

[fiery wave]

Because combat sadomasochist.

[elder oasis]

Yed thats him!!!! She asks him to make it hurt

[slim iris]

Mhm

Was almost cute

Were those chaos marines or weird loyalists?

[elder oasis]

The characters in the fabius trilogy we get for EC are such varied and interesting beings. If you hate slaanesh it might be a good read to get actual interesting slaaneshi followers.

I agree the HH books for them arent particularly interesting in their portrayal of the post margavelia legion

[slim iris]

Also what book

Ooo Fabius trilogy

[elder oasis]

Fabius biles books, and they were mostly Emperors children

However a word bearer, world eater, and death guard are also prominent characters

[slim iris]

I saw one where ||Slaanesh himself looked down at Bile and judged him, and Bile kinda just sat there coping and going "YOU'RE NOT REAL YOU'RE NOT REAL YOU'RE NOT REAL"||

[slim iris]

What a strange merry band to come together

[elder oasis]

Might be the slab scene. Its a symbolic moment where fabius gives up control to save his children. He basically sacrifices his self to make sure what happened to his legion never repeats for the new men

[delicate vapor]

I’m at McDonald’s who wants something

[slim iris]

Is it still breakfast time where you are

[fiery wave]

I mean, see avg Black Crusade party.

[elder oasis]

All apothecaries except for the word bearer. Bile is the most brilliant apothecary in the known galaxy so many chaos marines go to him to learn his craft or practice their own skills in a quiet place surrounded by fellow enthusiasts

Oh and the EC are mostly just a warband

Only one of them is an apothecary iirc

[slim iris]

That's kinda cool actually

[fast cosmos]

Bile is pretty based

For a traitor.

[elder oasis]

Yeah old bile was kinda meh but his trilogy remade the characters image into something deeply narratively interesting

[silver mango]

Man maybe it's because I'm a throne-damnes hipster but I just cannot play well with VoC

[elder oasis]

Hes basically narratively speaking the emperor

[slim iris]

Do you have the talent that gives golden toughness and not have the revive talent?

[fast cosmos]

I wouldn't go that far

[fiery wave]

I mean, everything is taste. Everyone has their own playstyle.

[silver mango]

Yeah the sneaky one is more to my forte for some reason

[elder oasis]

The narrative similarities are sometimes laid on pretty heavy

[young verge]

Sorry, was in a mission. I've not tested it extensively, but, by default, the light attack swings on the thunder hammer don't seem to headshot kill bruisers.

Where the combat axe would.

[elder oasis]

I mean especially at the end lmao. They gave him a golden throne equivalent that separates biles psyche into several bodies. Its a nod at emps and his soul being fractured

[young verge]

And like...you shouldn't have to build to just be able to light attack headshot basic enemies on the thunder hammer.

[elder oasis]

The author also said as much. You are supposed to take away that some details are comparing him to emps

[thick fog]

Oh my

Give me that tree

[fiery wave]

Why I don't judge unless you take loner on Zealot because is like taking nothing just to be a dook.

[gilded depot]

Just give me the fucking tree layout. This text is pointless to read.

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/introducing-dev-blog-arbites-talent-tree/108825

[silver mango]

Isn't loner a psyker

[elder oasis]

Yes but also its a node in zealots tree

[fiery wave]

No, a useless Zealot """""aura""""".

[silver mango]

What it do

[elder oasis]

Gives you coherency of 2 even when alone

Its the "im abandoning the team to run ahead" node

[silver mango]

Ah yes

[fiery wave]

That doesn't work anyway since you are likely to have some shit within 8m of you anyway.

[dry pebble]

talent tree dev blog

[uncut bone]

I love this game

[elder oasis]

The idea is that a zealot can operate ahead of the main group and pick off the stragglers and patrols you can deal with then come back for major fights like hordes and stuff

[fiery wave]

At that point, just take TDR and run off.

[drifting hedge]

Shock mine? Very fascinating actually, I am eager to see where that specific innovation lads

[fiery wave]

They are going to do it anyway, but that's more useful when stuck in holdout areas.

[elder oasis]

The main issue is that the higher your diff the less that role even works

[delicate vapor]

I got a Chicken mc spicy meal

[elder oasis]

But also it lets you keep coherency when your friends are all.ranged but you wanna get stuck in i spose

[thick fog]

Nuncio and Break the line are peak

[minor narwhal]

yippie!!!!!

[fiery wave]

Don't work cos in fight.

[uncut bone]

Arf-bites

[fiery wave]

Toughness regen via coherency is out of combat only.

[molten matrix]

TALENT TREE TIEM

[uncut bone]

This look horrifying

[elder oasis]

Yeah its not that great, so basically you get your toughness regen for the few seconds it takes to come back after killing the enemies

[fiery wave]

So, useless if you are actually frontlining for 3 ranged players. Just go TDR.

[elder oasis]

For sure

[uncut bone]

Team waahoo

[elder oasis]

Just speaking hypothetically and what its trying to do

[uncut bone]

[minor narwhal]

aw man do they not sh ow the tree

[delicate vapor]

Joji? You mean filthy frank

[uncut bone]

It's has three branches

[elder merlin]

Who the fuck is fatsharkquickpaw?

[elder oasis]

Waif are we getting more info right now

Where is the info

[grim cloak]

base arbites ability is just the veterans yell 😭

[minor narwhal]

3? zam!

[delicate vapor]

Lurker

[fiery wave]

Missing Strawhat already?

[elder oasis]

Is this on the forums or their YouTube

[elder merlin]

Kill 'em

[elder oasis]

Where do they not show tree?

[weak beacon]

Excute

[elder merlin]

We been missin strawhat, whatchu mean

[delicate vapor]

A

[drifting hedge]

we love strawhat in this house 😤

my goat-shark

[elder merlin]

And kitefin

We love strawhat and kitefin

[fiery wave]

Yes, but yesterday was last day so.........

[drifting hedge]

kitefin we love too but little bro is not yet the goat, he will get there

[elder merlin]

Last day?

[weak beacon]

lol

[elder merlin]

What you mean?

[uncut bone]

OIII WE ARE Ubersreik 5 or 4 doesn't matter

[grim cloak]

still gonna buy it, just looks like veteran+ so far tbh

[fiery wave]

[elder merlin]

Kitefin is also a lady

[drifting hedge]

tbf Arbites is very kruber coded ability wise, got the bloody battering ram and scream

[grim cloak]

i WILL be day 1ing the deluxe

[drifting hedge]

little bro (gender neutral) is not yet the goat, she will get there*

[fiery wave]

Vet but better. Vet just left behind.

[weak beacon]

XD

[elder oasis]

Nuncio is the better yell cuz i scream at heretics about how im the law

[thick coyote]

Oh I see
That's just how combat axes though

[uncut bone]

Hope we have kruber va voice one of the arbites , that will be very cool

[young verge]

I know combat axes are op

[delicate vapor]

Forgot I own C2 Eula and R2 her sword hahhaa (I hate gacha games)

[young verge]

I just want the thunder hammer to feel better

[grim cloak]

literally vet+, wanna play vet? just buy arbites at least its prob gonna get new content 🥀

[young verge]

:(

[uncut bone]

It's da hank

[weak beacon]

I go with what I got

[elder oasis]

The trailer voice is pretty good. Id thats the "goody two shoes by the lex" cop then i might do that

The mean one seems awesome too

[obtuse oak]

There we go, they explained it.

Castigator’s Stance

This Ability turns you into an unstoppable juggernaut, unleashing the Emperor’s Judgement on the enemy as you walk menacingly forward, unflinching and unphased. Entering the stance removes your ability to sprint, but increases your base movement speed and massively reduces your damage taken for a time.

This shit feels so badass lol. "He's walking up to us, menacingly!" You go noticeably faster than normal when e.g. ADS with a shotgun and facetank enemy gunfire

[drifting hedge]

nah i want the arbites voice that sounds like he loves cracking heads

[thick fog]

no piss yellow bar though

[elder oasis]

Are you guys reading an article or watching a video that came out today?

[lucid oriole]

I was going to say, the appeal of shout is that it gives you yellow toughness

[drifting hedge]

downgrade, we love the piss bar

[young verge]

nice

[crimson wing]

Where's the keystones

[lucid oriole]

New dev blog

[uncut bone]

I AM A BLOODY BATTLE RAMP THATS WHAT I AM

[obtuse oak]

Yes, #📢news-bulletin

[uncut bone]

[obtuse oak]

Always check that channel when in doubt

[young verge]

I do like feeling like a frontline bully

[neat salmon]

We need a arbites class channel stat

[fiery wave]

Maybe we get our promised weapon for Xmas when everyone else gets a new toy as well.

[drifting hedge]

that is literally the other ability

[obtuse oak]

In fact you should turn news alerts on

[grim cloak]

be fr

[obtuse oak]

That way you get pinged

[neat salmon]

To discuss further

[lucid oriole]

This dude stole my pfp

[delicate vapor]

Off to home I go

[elder merlin]

What do you mean

[maiden jacinth]

Stupid question but do stalkers push you back if they shoot you when you're out of toughness?

[delicate vapor]

So uh where’s my 20pc nuggets you were gonna give me

[uncut bone]

Let obese shark cook

[neat salmon]

Attention scum, you are in defiance of the emperors law for counterfeiting

[elder oasis]

Yeah i was so lost lmao

[digital tundra]

I wanna time the stance badly and get shredded by 30 gunners while attempting to walk menacingly

[elder merlin]

Shut up, nightlord scum

[delicate vapor]

Hand over

[fiery wave]

Yep.

[dry pebble]

The ultimates are the most underwhelming part about the new class honestly. Nuncia aquilla seems cool but i think its another flavour of relic or shout

[fiery wave]

Timezones.

[elder merlin]

Dont you have a toddler to go skin?

[hasty sky]

I can't believe Arbites is gonna have a better Loner aura

[uncut bone]

[elder merlin]

I meant by the last day comment

[thick fog]

Just to ask will there be arbites tree posted on gameslantern before release as preview or wont be this time like from Ogryn?

[elder merlin]

Made it sound like strawhat leavin us or somethin

[obtuse oak]

I have literally no idea

[grim cloak]

shi is NOT happening, they're prob gonna hyperfocus arbites and forget vet even exists again

[obtuse oak]

She is

[thick fog]

[obtuse oak]

Posted a whole good bye message

[lucid oriole]

As of the 19th the embargo is lifted so probably

[elder merlin]

Damn

[old breach]

Arbites talen tree just dropped 👀

[elder merlin]

I didnt see that

[fiery wave]

She mentioned about it being that. We just waiting to see if she makes a normal acct to stay around.

[uncut bone]

I'm gonna cry

[elder merlin]

[drifting hedge]

[uncut bone]

[fiery wave]

I mean, focusing on new pay2win makes more than a class that's already in.

[weak beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/frog-hello-darkness-kermit-my-old-friend-drm-gif-9482307

[elder merlin]

You act like that is somethin they dont do

[modern bobcat]

Can we get this for Ogryn?

[drifting hedge]

i have a moderate amount of faith in obesefish to not utterly just dump the base classes for DLC overtuning

[uncut bone]

We don't talk about it here

Anyway imma go finish my salamander

[grim cloak]

waiter waiter! 6 more pay2win classes! i haven't had my fill of vermintide structured games!

[weary pilot]

This is the last straw

You have fucking done it

LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOO

[stuck wasp]

🚬
If anything Arbites will get less than Ogryn, next to none of the vt2's dlc career got supplementary weapons after their launch

[elder oasis]

Omg they made the dog "loner but better"

A solo arbites can still gain all the benefits of loner with the added bonus they just also give extra coherency and toughness buff to allies XD

[fiery wave]

They got an aura that's literally loner but it actually still does something.

Loner+TDR.

[molten matrix]

I know a very funny replacement for loner

[grim cloak]

#BuffLonerPwease

[fiery crystal]

Hopefully this means they remove loner

[drifting hedge]

it's great because it actually helps the team more than the arbitrator themself, since the dog also has coherency

[molten matrix]

Increase movement speed by 4% for every teammate outside of coherency

[fiery wave]

Heh.

[molten matrix]

Go really into solo speed

[hasty sky]

"We have reviewed your complaints about Loner aura, and decided to make another Loner aura.
Regards, Fatshark"

[delicate vapor]

No, only adults I got limits to who 😭

[grim cloak]

surreal

[latent karma]

goooooooooooood morning

[weak beacon]

Lol mods going ham

[fiery wave]

Yes, the problem is it feels pay2win because they forgot to buff or rework loner to make it not absolutely trash first.

[drifting hedge]

i'm def gonna play a lot of arbie since i am an imperial fist enjoyer, luv me shields

[tame hemlock]

SIR KRUBER HAH HAH

[molten matrix]

Im using mines break the line

[grim cloak]

i feel like anything thats literally "the free version but cooler!!!" is objectively p2w

[drifting hedge]

eh, i would argue it's a useful and supportive sidegrade

loner is inherently selfish and doesnt help anybody else

[elder merlin]

[dry pebble]

loner is just a shit aura that should be reworked

there i said it

[tame hemlock]

imagine paying 12 dollars and you get "safe & mild"

[weak beacon]

Aura farming

[drifting hedge]

🤝

my man

[thick coyote]

Loner doesn't even help itself

😭

[fiery wave]

Isn't that like half the things Arbites have? Dog is just, baseline no CD Zealot and Oggy thing but they have CDs and can be karked?

[weak beacon]

My kind of thing

[thick coyote]

[drifting hedge]

Good

[molten matrix]

@amber cave do the shock mines stun enemies or have the electrocution stun?

[grim cloak]

its literally just zealot, ogryn and vet thrown into a blender and given a gold trim and upgrades

[fiery wave]

Why do I say it's literally loner but better?

[tame hemlock]

I don't like that they're adding Loner 2.0 tbh that aura is a mistake

mostly because of how it makes people play

[weak beacon]

True

[grim cloak]

ogryn charge
vet yell
loner 2.0

[drifting hedge]

that is true, i'm glad it actually helps people who wanna stick by the rest of their team at least

[tame hemlock]

to be fair you lose it if the dog goes far

[dry pebble]

it is a direct upgrade to loner but anything is really

[hasty sky]

I did expect at least some core arbites stuff would be a copy and paste of existing class stuff but I seriously did not expect loner 2.0 lmao

[tame hemlock]

tell the dog to go for a far target and you lose the aura

[ember nimbus]

reload aura is bleak

tbh

[hasty sky]

also the reload speed aura should also boost psyker quell speed to be useful 😈

[drifting hedge]

or you give it to someone else

[grim cloak]

seems like a nice chunk of the arbites is copy and paste with new paint tbh

[maiden finch]

Exploding the dog sounds so fun

[hasty sky]

very bleak

[olive badger]

Wait to see your Coherency count go up to 8 when you got 4 Arbites running the doggo aura

[drifting hedge]

please do not tase the ouppy

[dry pebble]

Reload aura is there for the shotgun damage after realod skill methinks

[weak beacon]

Not the dog!

[fiery wave]

Yes, but loner doesn't work anyway so changes nothing. That's still loner BUT you still get TDR.

[drifting hedge]

say psyche right now

[thick coyote]

Ooh good for shootouts

Oh wait

No

[hasty sky]

like I don't think any class except ogryn actually benefits from reload speed boosts

[minor narwhal]

arbys arbys

[olive badger]

deadass

[thick coyote]

Send the dog at shootouts

[molten matrix]

Holy shit toughness regen is finally an useful curio perk

[drifting hedge]

The Humble Veteran (Already forgotten)

[weak beacon]

We have the beef

[molten matrix]

Also hi monsieur vermintide 2 CM

[drifting hedge]

Please have them reconsider

[elder oasis]

Also the dogs were zipping. They never were gone long in the gameplay video so you would have to send them pretty far to lose the bonus for a substantial amount of time

[grim cloak]

veteran? you mean arbites? yeah ik that class

[minor narwhal]

why does our food keep blowing up!!!!!!!???

[olive badger]

Hello! I CM both games now 😄

[maiden finch]

Im also confused about Nuncio Aquila. Its a static buff debuff that stays in one place, like an object ?

[olive badger]

alongside Kitefin

[olive badger]

Yes, you place it on a spot

[molten matrix]

Aha

[dry pebble]

hello quickpaw nice name

[fiery wave]

Why pick vet when you can just play rework oggy, right?

[olive badger]

and it keeps blasting propaganda

[molten matrix]

Well nice to have you here!

[digital tundra]

I was thinking maybe adding in a small damage reduction to allies when they're taking attacks from the front might be an okay addition, which also fits with the loner fantasy (you're kinda using your allies as meat shields for your strikes)

[drifting hedge]

nah i like cosplaying a commissar

[elder oasis]

Imperial truths you mean

[olive badger]

yes yes

[inner river]

I hope the shield & maul/shotpistol combo and the shotgun son’t be the only weapons….

[olive badger]

of course

[neat salmon]

Thats hilarious, im thinking of it constantly scolding the heretics and glazing the rejects

[olive badger]

100%

[molten matrix]

Quickpaw i have a pretty annoying bug

[dry pebble]

it being a placeable object is interesting

[drifting hedge]

I half expect the shield combo weapons to be class-specific like the psyker force weapons, and then they have a decent array of the regular arsenal

[neat salmon]

Mannn i cant wait

[elder oasis]

If the nuncio buffs the dog then im choosing that one

[minor narwhal]

just hope arbys doesnt have ds

[molten matrix]

The nuncio aquilla keeps playing moonsiders 1st in the psykarium its really weird!

[wooden creek]

So how does Remote Detonation work if you take the talent that removes the dog? Do you blow yourself up?

[grim cloak]

surely the DLC will be up for preorder

surely

[neat salmon]

Early access to the class maybe? 👉👈

[inner river]

“QUAIL, HERETICS, FOR YOUR DOOM APPROACHES!”
“YOU ARE LOYAL SERVANTS OF THE LEX, KEEP FIGHTING!”

[dry pebble]

Oh the maul can be used without the shield! that can be seen on the extended gameplay. Not sure about the shotpistol

[weak beacon]

lol Arby’s owns every thing

[molten matrix]

Become a playtester lmao

[fiery wave]

I would, if they ever rerun the Commissar outfit... Yes, I main Vet. Just feel like dook knowing Arbites is just going to be Vet but better.

[digital tundra]

Arbites shits their pants and dies

[neat salmon]

Aye, Lex Mate

[olive badger]

the buff is toughness regen iirc and the dog can't take damage so there's no interaction really. It does debuff enemies though, which the dog can cash in on

[slim iris]

What is your favorite part of what we've been shown so far

[drifting hedge]

I'm waiting for the mod that will change the NunAq to blare Disposal Unit - you know which part

[round mica]

its probably oneof thr locked talents

[elder oasis]

Im about to give fatshark so much money lmao

[maiden finch]

Thanks, I wonder what the « debilitation » is

[molten matrix]

They didnt show off the keystones tho

[dry pebble]

man we got a info surplus now

[olive badger]

the Castigator's Stance. I think Hank said it earlier but genuinely, popping that and walking down the hallway while facetanking everything like the terminator is a hell of a feeling

[drifting hedge]

Robocop-ass ability (positive)

[dry pebble]

that seems so cool

[elder oasis]

Sort of, we already knew the blitzes and abilities. Seeing the coherency stuff was cool, and some minor nodes

[modest flume]

RIP Psyker

[minor narwhal]

i wanna c a proper arbys showcase.........

[modest flume]

RIP Zealot

[elder oasis]

Capstones though

[slim iris]

I'm surprised they didn't make the stagger dash the default talent given their reason (ease of use and noticing its effect), but then I guess that would feel less iconic compared to zealot

[molten matrix]

Activate castigators stance to turn the game into vt2

[round mica]

probs gonna be a trailer a day before

[dry pebble]

True we dont know tem yet

[olive badger]

Originally the Castigator's Stance was gonna be the default talent, actually! But it wasn't as intuitive for new players

[minor narwhal]

the day befo playtesters prolly posted all the stuff lo

[inner river]

Wait
Is castigator’s stance just a taunt?

In a wya

Way

[molten matrix]

Nope

[elder oasis]

Arbites is the new ogryn cuz tank tree, new vet cuz scream, new psyker cuz smite mine, and new zealot cuz better loner

[slim iris]

Castigator sounds cool, probably would help a whole lot while you're stuck in

[drifting hedge]

no it's a steroid ability

[molten matrix]

You cant use sprint but you get a massive DR boost

[dry pebble]

Castigators stance is super mode

[drifting hedge]

They Are The Law

[slim iris]

Movement speed increase sounds like it MIGHT affect dodges too but I doubt it

[olive badger]

wanna know what the number % of the damage reduction for Castigator Stance is

(last time I checked anyway)

[dry pebble]

YES

[molten matrix]

Please do

[quick pendant]

15%?

[slim iris]

Leak it :D

[olive badger]

80%

[dry pebble]

OH SHIT

[quick pendant]

WAT

[inner river]

HOLY SHIT

[slim iris]

That is for all DR?

[minor narwhal]

go damn

[fast cosmos]

It's official. Arbites is gonna FUCK

[elder oasis]

Youtubers are allowed to show their gameplay starting the 19th

[molten matrix]

This sounds big but how well does it scale?

[little marten]

Pop castigator and walk past the 2 poxwalkers on malice 💀

[fiery wave]

They did 4 arbites H40 already so......

[wanton pier]

Scrier's Gaze but you become tanky instead of killy

[obtuse oak]

Hell yeah tell em chief

[minor narwhal]

yippie!!!!

[round mica]

yeah gonna need that when your just walking slowly lol

[molten matrix]

Cause we know DR calculations have a curve for it

[inner river]

POPPONG CASTIGATORS STANCE AND FACETANKING THE MAULERS OVERHEAD

[dry pebble]

That is going to be so fucking cool

[inner river]

POPPING*

[little marten]

Pooping

[molten matrix]

Or is it really a flat 80%?

[olive badger]

When I interviewed the devs they told me that number straight up but I kept it vague in the copy 'cause you know, subject to change

[thick coyote]

We are closer to 100% DR than ever

[slim iris]

Stacking zealot's Benediction plus the dog aura for max TDR

[thick coyote]

[slim iris]

Holy moly

[obtuse oak]

There's a really cool bell tolling sound effect when you enter the Stance too, along with the usual badass voicelines. Really feels like

JUDGEMENT TIME

[neat salmon]

That wont last i think

[olive badger]

but since they told me straight up, I'm guessing it's fine for this reveal

[quick bloom]

I'M FUCKING INVINCIBLE

[molten matrix]

Wouldnt work since the DR curve

[round mica]

title card

[neat salmon]

I gotta experience it before it gets nerfed 😈

[molten matrix]

So im wondering if its actualy 80% DR

[fast cosmos]

STAND AND DIE PROTOCOL

🗣️🗣️

[obtuse oak]

I have no reason to believe it'll change before release, that's the number we tested

[fiery wave]

And ppl thought it would be fair and balanced. Sounds like it's gonna be Oggy but better.

[slim iris]

I'm glad it sounds like they gave it the same amount of personality that they gave zealot's dash

[little marten]

What non-class specific weapons can they use then????

[elder oasis]

We decide the punishment! Ty shi

[slim iris]

Dueling sword :)

(please no)

[minor narwhal]

do they have ds? i hope not

[elder merlin]

Who are you? @olive badger

[olive badger]

i'm quickpaw

[inner river]

Okay
Just wanna make sure
When the class releases, we’re gonna be able to call eachother lex- mates, right?

[elder oasis]

Shotguns I think

[slim iris]

he quickpaw

[little marten]

4 duelling sword arbiters

[minor narwhal]

oh god please no

[fast cosmos]

God I love this game

[fiery wave]

But tankgryns running taunt ain't fast either.

[elder merlin]

Never heard of you

[wanton pier]

Probably everything Zealots, Veterans and Psykers already share

[molten matrix]

VT2 CM

[minor narwhal]

mayb they finally nerf ds with the update though

[olive badger]

I've been Vermintide CM for a while but I'm starting to shift over to cover both VT & DT, alongisde Kitefin

[drifting hedge]

Quickpaw is a Community Manager for VT2, and now DT alongside Kitefin

[dry pebble]

well its different, ogryn taunt forces most enemies to melee and boosts toughness regen (on kil iirc). Castigators is a dmg reduction and walking speed boost

[neat salmon]

I never seen the Arbites minis wielding a sword before

[elder merlin]

Main?

[neat salmon]

Its always a club or mace

[round mica]

no but from what he's saying im assuming you're not gonna be able to dodge like you can with ogryn

[tame hemlock]

ok so it's gonna last 5 seconds xd

[olive badger]

Sienna on VT, Psyker on DT

(Unchained, specifically)

[dry pebble]

Mage enthusiast

[uncut bone]

Basically ar-bites is kruber

[neat salmon]

Oh u are the mage

[uncut bone]

Noted

[little marten]

When you got to FatShark office and get in the elevator are you the kinda person who hammers to door close button as soon as you get in?

[fiery wave]

Yeah, more DR than Oggy even. I don't even...

[inner river]

People are SO gonna be unburying the doctor livesey memes for castigator’s stance

[fast cosmos]

Don't need to dodge if you get 80% damage reduction lol

[elder merlin]

Acceptable, was just about to ask which version lol

[drifting hedge]

gun psyker or staff psyker quickpaw

[slim iris]

I wonder if Arbites will also have a crazy CDR talent like the other classes do

[neat salmon]

Staff

[olive badger]

Revolvo

[cosmic burrow]

cowboy psyker

[molten matrix]

Which blitz on psyker?

[drifting hedge]

unacceptable skeleton divine death blast

[fiery wave]

Pretty sure it locks your sprint, not dodge.

[olive badger]

Assail

[neat salmon]

Im disappoint

[molten matrix]

Scrier?

[olive badger]

ye

[quick bloom]

Can you tell us if any of the voices say STAND AND DIE PROTOCOL so we can start with that one

[molten matrix]

Good

[round mica]

can you dodge with castigator stance?

[fast cosmos]

FACTS

[neat salmon]

“GET DOWN PERP”

[olive badger]

tbf I played staff a lot at launch, just switched to gunpsyker after the talent tree rework

[fast cosmos]

Please tell me they say stand and die protocol

[olive badger]

now I'm going back to Staff with Brain Burst, Dome and trauma staff

[dry pebble]

The thing is that the oggy taunt doesnt have dmg reduction! I busted out the ogrynomicon to confirm it

[drifting hedge]

is SnD Protocol one of their rules on tabletop?

[molten matrix]

Quickpaw how does remote detonation work if you take the dogless talent?

[olive badger]

no

[little marten]

Lasgun buff with new patch?!?

[olive badger]

in fact, taking the dogless talent locks out all doggo related talents

[molten matrix]

Oh

[dry pebble]

lmao the dog just fucking explodes in the Mourningstar

[wanton pier]

It'll be interesting to see how quickly the community comes to consensus on dog vs no dog

[olive badger]

And further in fact, the dogless talent is in a row that kind of acts like its own keystone tier (but is not the actual keystone) where you pick your dog's specialization

[wanton pier]

or taking any the dog with or without any dog specific talents

[fast cosmos]

Dog can apply brittleness

[olive badger]

and they're like mutually exclusive

[neat salmon]

All serious play is always gonna be no companion

[fast cosmos]

Dog is meta

[inner river]

Can we give the dog a gun?

[little marten]

Age old solution; Depends how attractive the dog is

[molten matrix]

You just confirmed the class will have keystones😌

[olive badger]

no way

[dry pebble]

Lmao

[olive badger]

i cannot believe this

[lunar nexus]

TALENT BLOG FINALLY

[dry pebble]

you confirmed the class will be usable by players!

[molten matrix]

My bad og

[elder merlin]

[inner river]

I wanna give the pupper an autopistol

[olive badger]

listen you can make it blow up (the dog will be fine) is that not good enough for ya

[lapis tusk]

Can ogryns get toughness curios?

[inner river]

Yes, actually

[olive badger]

bahahah

[inner river]

It is

[minor narwhal]

dog explode

[visual stream]

I can't wait to take dog-less talent, and then remote explosion and dog coherency

[drifting hedge]

honestly i think the dog will be either everywhere or nowhere in the sweat-echelon, it doesn't feel like a light decision

[fiery wave]

Oggy has their own DR and nodes, I'm saying they get more DR on a push than Oggy gets around the tree.

[elder oasis]

Assail is my favourite spell

[wanton pier]

I assume it's early in the talent tree if it locks out any dog specific talents since there is a dog specific blitz

[dry pebble]

I wonder if the dog bomb will be on a cooldown or on ammo

[molten matrix]

Cooldown

[olive badger]

not too early

but earlier than middle

you can't pick it if you picked a doggo talent and you can't pick doggo talents if you picked it

[delicate vapor]

more i wonder

Why the hell was my grandpa eating ghost peppers as if they were candy

[olive badger]

this

[fast cosmos]

Immortal kamikaze dog is goated

[neat salmon]

Bro what

Hes gonna poop fire

[dry pebble]

i think that its at least fair considering its a temporary boost and ogryn has the DR the full match

[delicate vapor]

think so

[molten matrix]

I wonder if we can build an exterminator mastiff through talents

[little marten]

What’s the % on reload reduction aura

[wanton pier]

Makes sense for the leveling I suppose, you'd want people to get some experience with the dog before deciding to keep it or not

[hollow zephyr]

Oh hi Quickpaw!

[elder oasis]

Im just curious what the dogs kill time is like on the hardest diff

[inner river]

It’d be really funny if we could kill ogryns by blowing up our dog

[olive badger]

hiya!

[fiery wave]

Gotta see the CD and CDR nodes. That's a big deal for ults.

[little marten]

Also does part of the pack essentially give arbiters their own LONER aura?

[elder oasis]

Lol yes but better

[fiery wave]

Loner but better.