skitarii-class

[karmic verge]

The one example we have of an alpha primus was in the book skitarius and they had a "last name", a dash, then a numerical designation, then a first name they tended to go by

[golden marsh]

Toaster toaster I love toasters

[karmic verge]

Afaik the "haldron-44" of their name was basically more akin to a model number or a manufacturer code of a sort.

With stroika being their chosen name

[lean glen]

Huh, that's actually helpful

[oak ember]

no way thats an actual GW thing

I recognize the font

[proven storm]

10th edition codex

[oak ember]

bro is named like metal

[fiery onyx]

GarbaDol

[lean glen]

I mean, imagine someone called Ar-Titanium

[oak ember]

Decima-Tov

russian decimator

[lean glen]

Hex-Decimal

[oak ember]

one letter away

[fiery onyx]

ArRhombor

https://tenor.com/view/mitsubishi-eclipse-mitsubishieclipse-car-nfs-gif-13209095

[lean glen]

Skitarii named Mercades-Benz

[fiery onyx]

Okay now that would actually be funny

instead of the usual toaster

[lean glen]

The one Skitarii pyromaniac named Ford-Pinto

[oak ember]

Skitarii named Renault Espace

[lean glen]

BlendTech-Vroo

[twin oxide]

Amaul felt like I'm cheesing the game, and crusher just makes me sad when I think about how it's just Zealot's unique weapon but better on arby xd

The dog is really fun and actually playing with the crusher was really fun so I could still live with it

[tranquil flume]

Oh same, IDK why but it takes being in the mood to play Arbitrator where the other classes I can generally just roll with em (save for vet bc vet kinda stank rn)

[twin oxide]

It's one of my less touched classes though

[white blade]

Yeah, AMaul boring, Crusher makes me kinda sad, Shield and Maul ig is most ethical

[white blade]

For me it's cause Arb is very no thought, no risk W+M1

[twin oxide]

Insane crowd control on the same weapon that lets you kill anything regardless of which input you did

[stiff pier]

To be fair I think everyone falls asleep playing arbi

[twin oxide]

Was just stupid

How did Shatshart let that through

Wait

The same exact way an inferno staff and soulblaze buff got through

https://tenor.com/view/tweaking-wegeekinghard-blud-tiktok-animatronic-tweaking-gif-18331326635054461479

[tranquil flume]

the only thing keeping me awake are the voice lines and the dog

[tranquil flume]

yeah 😔

[white blade]

Idk, Fatalist Arb is my favorite personality in game, playing arb ain't it tho lol

[fiery onyx]

my love for shotguns keeps me awake

[tranquil flume]

love the m Fatalist so much

[stiff pier]

"soulblaze buff is good because everyone just abused uncanny strikes with it! We fixed that so it shouldn't be an issue anymore :)"

[white blade]

I will say, as a shotgun enthusiast it's their one redeeming thing but tbh vet is a better shotgun user

[fiery onyx]

Same, got to be my favorite arb personality

[tranquil flume]

he's such a diva and asshole

[fiery onyx]

their shotguns don't have the same feel to it

[white blade]

I run combat shotty on arb tbh

[fiery onyx]

was very sad

[golden marsh]

Arb players when they have to name their arb Judge Dread

[twin oxide]

And a grand total of 2 people were actively using that synergy because the weapon and DoT were both braindead good without it anyway LMAO

[tranquil flume]

it kills me whenever he says shit like he wished he died on the Tancred Bastion, dude hates his job so much

[fiery onyx]

and pick the maul personality

because that's all i fucking hear whenever i see an arb user

[golden marsh]

I mean tbh

[fiery onyx]

Although lately it's been more rare

[tranquil flume]

same, agri

[fiery onyx]

Which is refreshing

[tranquil flume]

it's what mine would use anyway

[golden marsh]

Judge Dread is cool

[white blade]

Dredd fwiw, three ds

[tranquil flume]

Judge Fed lol lmao

[golden marsh]

We are gonna see a lot of skitarii named toaster

[fiery onyx]

yup.

[stiff pier]

I have a feeling people think arbites shotgun is better simply because people don't know how to build combat shotgun

[golden marsh]

Roomba

A good one

[fiery onyx]

I will name mine either Cog-itator or something actually unique

[tranquil flume]

you'd be right

[twin oxide]

"Toaster, I barely know 'er!"

[tranquil flume]

this artist has drawn my Skitarius before

[fiery onyx]

They look very normal

[golden marsh]

Oops you have radiation poisoning now

[tranquil flume]

lemme go get the pic

[golden marsh]

I hope they just have a constant dot effect around them

Would be funny

[stiff pier]

I pray Fatshark doesn't add a full ranged tree with degenerate ammo regain options for skitarii

[golden marsh]

They will

[twin oxide]

Well it's too close to release to undo it now, sorry

[tranquil flume]

https://www.tumblr.com/kitto-paint/761605203568001024/assortment-of-skits-astralmight-angrygonk?source=share

[twin oxide]

They cute

[golden marsh]

We better get skitari marshal armor

[fiery onyx]

I want them to add some sort of heavy stubber version for skitarii

i like dakka

[twin oxide]

What's with the white and red one on the left

With them big ol eyes

[tranquil flume]

I forget, think that's one of Gonk's or Kitto's own, been a while

The only one that's mine is right in the center

[twin oxide]

Are the little rods antennae?

[tranquil flume]

the ghost-seeing insect himself

yeah it's a Warp sensory array

[stiff pier]

I remember when ammo was a luxury </3

[twin oxide]

So you remember pre-tree patch

[stiff pier]

No I didn't play back then

[twin oxide]

That's the last time there wasn't at least one ammo economy breaking thing in the game, IIRC

[pseudo meteor]

Famous last words

[stiff pier]

Idk back in 2024 when I started playing everyone was playing zealot with charge anywys

[twin oxide]

True

Back when zealot was the peak of the game

(It still is, playstyle-wise )

[stiff pier]

If the admech fanboys can't shoot 24/7 they'll leave a bad review

A well deserved pickpocket nerf made so many people mald about scum no longer being able to break the game by holding m1

[silk lantern]

now it breaks the game by turning into a blender

[opal thistle]

no it's not enough

[stiff pier]

I'm pretty sure "well deserved" doesn't mean "enough"

Still needs more nerfing but I'm pretty sure the crashout would be massive if that is done

So I don't see that changing any time soon

[pseudo meteor]

Recon vets be like

[torpid summit]

I got lex-luther and Kripto

[stiff pier]

Nerf hyper violence, don't allow rampage builds to get Pickpocket

80% of my problems with Scum would go away

[silk lantern]

pickpocket isnt needed for melee builds anyways

[stiff pier]

True but there's still 9/10 degenerates in havoc picking ramapage still spamming needle pistol

[white blade]

Tbf that's not a rampage build

That's a PP Needler build

[stiff pier]

They essentially make a rampage build

[white blade]

I mean ik

[stiff pier]

With pickpocket as an extra to always be able to spam at bosses

[white blade]

You take pp and a Needler

[stiff pier]

That tilts me

[white blade]

It's not a heavy tax lol

[stiff pier]

Rampage should be restricted from picking pickpocket

Only desperado and maybe stimm Supply should be allowed to get Pickpocket

[white blade]

I'm ngl I think it's more of a Needler issue than a pp issue

Like pp on a rampage build isn't an issue with any other gun

Needler is just Needler

[stiff pier]

I kinda think it is tbh

[white blade]

Is it?

If you're shooting that much you probably shouldn't be on a rampage build anyway

[regal cobalt]

Glad we are on the same page

[stiff pier]

I don't think it's about shooting much

But rather the fact that you won't ever need to pick ammo

[white blade]

Ig

I don't on vet most of the time either tho

Psyker also doesn't but psyker is psyker lol

[steady kayak]

All Hail the omnissiah!
https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/s/DkyOr4seBV

[silk lantern]

reddit

[stiff pier]

I'd say that unless I'm running helbore/recon with shocktrooper

I do "need" to pick some ammo at least

[white blade]

I run plasma a lot and don't normally feel the need to vacuum ammo tbh

I'm probably like an 80/20 split on melee to shooting tho

[stiff pier]

Ok I guess that's like plasa

Plasma

One of the most ammo efficient guns xdd

[white blade]

Yes lol

[next meadow]

Why nerf hyperviolence? It's something that actually requires you to play well to make good use of

[white blade]

Ehhhhh

[stiff pier]

Right... Spamming m1 on horde to then delete elites in 1 hit is very skill dependant

Or even worse

3 light attack a boss xddd

[next meadow]

I mean, thats a weapon design problem moren it is a talent problem, but more to the point, you have to actually play for it. Hitstun can be enough to drop your procs, yadayada

You don't have to play for Rampage anymore

Since they nerfed the debuff

[stiff pier]

Both rampage and hyper violence need nerfs

[next meadow]

An you barely have to play for pickpocket too at this point, but ymmv on that

Rampage needs its debuff back

Imo Scum should be super papery, but do giga-damage

[white blade]

The debuff made it interesting

Now it's kinda just SG²

[next meadow]

Yerp

[white blade]

I think we lost this to reviews man

[stiff pier]

Ok, then nerf nimble, Dodge alley rat and jittery

[neat laurel]

they are, they just also happen to be godlike at dodging

so it doesnt even matter

[white blade]

Release scum identity is very different than current scum identity ime

[next meadow]

I mean, kinda yeah. Which is sad, but thats what Scum should have stayed as

[stiff pier]

It never was IMO

Rampage pre buff was still busted considering you still had full Dodge spam capabilities

Hive Scum melee should've been like Witch Hunter Captain in VT2

Extreme dmg, instakill talents

[next meadow]

It was, but point costs were tighter, pathing could sometimes be awkward an what not meaning you had sacrifices for suvivability

[stiff pier]

But basically no defense talent

At most 20% more dodging distance xddd

[next meadow]

Yeah, i would yeet the new pushback one for sure

That shit is dumb, an straight up will make you a bad player

[stiff pier]

That talent needs to die yes

[white blade]

I'm ngl

I kinda can't play other classes anymore cause of scum dodges

[next meadow]

Not a fan of the whole being shot for free toughness thing either, but yeah.. dunno

[white blade]

I'm too accustomed to the mobility now

[white blade]

This shits actually crazy

It's the best passive toughness regen in game

[stiff pier]

This is why I started playing without jittery nor nimble on rampage builds lol

[white blade]

It also thematically makes no sense for scum

[next meadow]

Pretty much lol

[white blade]

I'm kinda okay with it I'm ngl

[next meadow]

It makes sense from a game design perspective what with a ranged tree, but yeah, not in gameplay

Alley Rat my beloved That shit is hilarious

[white blade]

It feels like it should be a vet or maybe an arb talent thematically

Possibly Og

[stiff pier]

Arbites has a talent like that tho

Street smarts I think it's called

[white blade]

Nah

That's +1 dodge and 25 percent duration

[stiff pier]

Oh I thought you were talking about dodge talent

[white blade]

Nah I mean getting shot to regen toughness

[stiff pier]

Not about the toughness regen on getting shot

Blehh

[white blade]

Bonkers talent tbh

[stiff pier]

It is yes

I'm pretty sure it was made because of Havoc

[white blade]

Possibly

[neat laurel]

speaking of scum, why does hivescum get an ability that just gives them infinite ammo while they use it, but poor gunlugger ogryn only gets half back

[white blade]

It just makes you [Title Card] in Auric

[stiff pier]

Because in Havoc 1 stalker will destroy your toughness so that means the downside of that talent can trigger

[next meadow]

Class is seen as papery > Give class best passive toughness Darktide has ever seen

[stiff pier]

But in normal play that doesn't happen xdxdxd

[white blade]

Power creep

[next meadow]

Gotta sell DLC

[stiff pier]

Because clearly fatshark wants people to shoot at hordes with it

(degeneracy)

[pallid rock]

Much as I love gunlugger I don't want to live in a world where it can have actually infinite ammo lol

[white blade]

Nah cause you probably also have the talent that replenishes half your toughness when it breaks

[silk lantern]

tbf PBB does gigabuff the shit out of your gun damage

[neat laurel]

ooh lets make ogryn even worse by comparison becuase we added the better version to random crack addict

[white blade]

Nah like

[neat laurel]

ok true

[hollow beacon]

ogryn gunluggers found face down in puddle of ROT

[white blade]

Og is fucking annoying imo

[neat laurel]

wdym

[white blade]

I don't want to play with an infinite ammo Ogryn either, personally

[uncut cloak]

I do

[next meadow]

Consider, barrel

[white blade]

Atp I would

[uncut cloak]

It means they won't slurple all the ammo

[silk lantern]

meanwhile desperado needs a subnode to give 15% damage and rending

[neat laurel]

fair enough, im just saying that point blank barrage was absoute garbage before they gave you half ammo back

[hollow zephyr]

I'll likely put together a ranged build and a melee build

[stiff pier]

Fuck it I'll go with rampage into H40 today but without dodge spam abilities to feel the true papery scum

[white blade]

Average rumblergryn shooting 1 of 16 nades at a lone poxxie

[next meadow]

Ok, but it is funny tho

[pallid rock]

Like once

[neat laurel]

erm actually its 25? total ammo

[white blade]

If they do it once they do it again ime

[jagged marten]

loading into an event match just to see a rumblergryn

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/HI3j5LiWQAA8zlp.webp

[stiff pier]

On the bright side of Skitarii

[white blade]

If I could opt to never play with rumblergryn again I would

[stiff pier]

We're getting Kerillian's sword and dagger into DT yay yay yay

[neat laurel]

if i could opt to kill you for that, i would

[next meadow]

True tbh, would say the same about Psyker with Trauma too

[white blade]

I haven't seen a trauma psyker in actual years I'm ngl

[young panther]

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{i made a quick um binary language console app, not sure how to make it uh make a darktide compatible mod perhaps but you know its propbably an option}

[pallid rock]

Have people gotten equally fed up with power maul yet? Because I'm not done abusing that one yet

[white blade]

Yes but mainly because I always see it attached to rumblergryn so it's more by association

[stiff pier]

I played with that yesterday into le Havoc just to try final Toll against something that is supposed to be good only by staggering

It still does really good against final Toll

[next meadow]

They're out there.. still spamming AoE's at the feet of the team's frontliners.. ¬.¬

[jagged marten]

i agree

[white blade]

It still does a metric ton of damage

[young panther]

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{it supports sending raw binary and one with a little translation}

[neat laurel]

what gun would you rather them use? the kickback? the grenade gauntlet? the 2 stubbers? the ripper? oh wait thats all they fucking get

[white blade]

Basically anything I'm ngl

[stiff pier]

Aye

[jagged marten]

i also agree twice

[stiff pier]

I like trauma

[white blade]

Like genuinely use anything else lmfao

[young panther]

00111010.01010000

{ :P }

[neat laurel]

everything else kind of sucks

[white blade]

Okay

[jagged marten]

i use the heavy stubber to snipe

i play meleegryn anyways

[neat laurel]

only other decent gun

and i guess the twin linked

[white blade]

I don't care tbh, playing with rumblergryn makes me do the same thing I do when I see a smyker

Either leave or barrel them

[neat laurel]

what class do you play?

[young panther]

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{anyways what are you guys talking about ? game balance again ?}

[white blade]

Most all of them except Og because I kinda only like the pickaxe

[stiff pier]

The benefit of playing Havoc is that you can choose who gets into your party

[white blade]

I agree

[stiff pier]

That's why I only play Havoc nowadays

All inferno staff psykers that have a 40 rank

Get instantly rejected

[neat laurel]

wow really? the worst class has like one good build and so thats the only one you ever see?? who would have guessed

[white blade]

In order of popularity it's probably Scum Zealot Vet Arb Psyker Og rn

[neat laurel]

yes

he sucks

and im sad

[jagged marten]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1278540580976328790/1507816640530612336/1TrFV2kRX0vITZzxnRqbusJzkG8g6N47-zoPK4NSOeM.gif

[pallid rock]

What lol

[jagged marten]

https://youtu.be/z3SeQNNQcqQ?si=OIzcMem7VklP-Af5

[neat laurel]

ogryn = no build variety

[hollow zephyr]

Why nobody like Psyker? T.T

[stiff pier]

I don't think the hate is on Psyker

[opal thistle]

Because psyker is cringe

[stiff pier]

But rather Inferno staff, warp siphon and scriers gaze xdd

[next meadow]

Infinite cleave bullshit that scales infinitely with density

[hollow zephyr]

You're Cringe!

[opal thistle]

No it’s actually psyker in their entirety

[white blade]

Psyker when they get to play a totally different game from everyone else in the lobby

[pallid rock]

Sure you are absolutely right rumblergryn is the only good build please even more base stat buffs and busted passives

[stiff pier]

Nahhhhhhhhhhhh play trauma with venting shriek and no warp siphon and it'll be a lot more balanced

[hollow zephyr]

My Psyker build is a melee build

[opal thistle]

Still op and cheesy

[stiff pier]

Idk if cheesy is the ideal term here

[white blade]

Meleeker is still stupidly oppressive if you play it well I'm ngl

[stiff pier]

What's cheesy about it

[hollow zephyr]

I like the two handed sword

[stiff pier]

Yeah but that's more scriers gaze and great forcesword being stupid silly

[next meadow]

Trauma is like walking around with an infinite ammo 30mm grenade launcher

[opal thistle]

Mega high stagger & disregard of cleave

[white blade]

Another paragraph to SG

[neat laurel]

the passive of being gigantic and dying to every disabler because you even thought of dodging a millisecond before the trapper shoots and so you mistimed your terrible dodge and ended up getting trapped anyways becuase your hitbox is huge? that passive? or the one that gives you 20% damage reduction which is needed because you are (again) GIGANTIC and take every single bullet ever

[opal thistle]

I’d say og has 4-5 good builds rn (even tho I’m personally inclined to drop that to 3)

[hollow zephyr]

I also like drubbing people with a thunder hammer on Zealot so I understand why it's popular

[white blade]

Ime Og is a stupidly oppressive class when played well, it's just rarely played well

[neat laurel]

I HATE DOGSSSS, worst part of playing ogryn

[heavy citrus]

Nah ogryn bad cause I don't wanna learn it fak u bloody

[pallid rock]

Just push it lol

Please just push dogs

[neat laurel]

dog horde

30 dogs

taunt

all on me

[white blade]

I feel cooler if I heavy melee them and they die tho

[heavy citrus]

Sounds like you need to run ROCK and grandier gauntlet or kickback

[white blade]

Soup gun

[heavy citrus]

Charge bros stay winning
Taunt chuds in shambles

[neat laurel]

i do run rock

[white blade]

I'm ngl

I prefer a chargegryn to a tauntgryn

Chargegryns on average seem better

[heavy citrus]

Charge funner

[white blade]

I've never seen a charge user sit in the corner with a shield

[stiff pier]

That's because people who use charge are either just learning Ogryn or really good at Ogryn

[white blade]

Which is probably also why I like them more

[stiff pier]

No inbetweens

[white blade]

Not since Y1 anyway lol

[stiff pier]

Meanwhile everyone and their mother uses taunt

[next meadow]

I have, but it was before Ogryn had options so Idk if it counts

[heavy citrus]

Wish u could get charge cool down as low as taunt
Would be hilariously broken

[stiff pier]

So the player using it could be from Bad to good and all in between

[white blade]

I used to straight up leave games with a shieldgryn Y1 im ngl

[stiff pier]

Erm we have that diddy

It's called arbites

[opal thistle]

Good ogryn drops diff by 2, bad ogryn increases diff by 1

Generally speaking

[white blade]

Someone in here has a clip of me seeing a shieldgryn join a lobby Y1 and going "nah, nope, not today" and leaving lol

[void ruin]

A majority of times I bother to take a shieldgryn in my havocs, I just tend to end up regretting it

[heavy citrus]

BTL is great but stops on impact
Ogryn charge is funnier

[next meadow]

Vet that stands still most of the game, a shieldgryn who plants it all the time, a psyker who wont stop exploding themselves and a knife Zealot Classic Y1 DT pug

[white blade]

God

I miss it sometimes

[stiff pier]

I'm gonna suffer on Havoc anyways since they readded pink

[white blade]

Raise your hand if you remember Y1 shotgunners just annihilating psykers

[stiff pier]

And pink fully stops charge

On impacting a pink enemy anyways

[hollow zephyr]

I lived that

[void ruin]

I'm not even caring if we win or not but seeing an ogryn that straight up refuses to frontline confounds me

[heavy citrus]

Sounds very gey

[jagged marten]

launch shotgunners did full damage with each pellet

[stiff pier]

It is, for some reason fatshark added 300% impact resistance to pink enemies

[jagged marten]

terrifying stuff

[opal thistle]

Gunlugger syndrome

Worst melee in the game

[white blade]

Launch DT enemies were something else

[jagged marten]

https://klipy.com/gifs/what-battle-beast--k01KQAA3K0ES0AGGQG3ZMGQ0BVG

[white blade]

Dogs curving 90 degrees mid air

[next meadow]

The original mutant grab-box

[void ruin]

Gunluggers are more often frontlining than shieldgryns with taunt lmfao

[jagged marten]

i think power maul cleavers pickaxes are pret good

[void ruin]

Ime at least

[opal thistle]

With heavy hitter yea

[hollow zephyr]

I mained Psyker until Arbites came out

I switch between them depending on my mood

[jagged marten]

Ngl i see barely any reason to take feel no pain

[hollow zephyr]

Sometimes I play Zealot

[stiff pier]

Sonion

[jagged marten]

Ogryn has an innate 50% DR on dodge

All you need honestly

[heavy citrus]

I don't even know what it does

[opal thistle]

It’s x60% according to kuli guide

[heavy citrus]

WHAT DOES HE EVEN DOOO

[jagged marten]

Just DR

[white blade]

Ogryn is a genuinely insane class ime

It's just used well by like

1/20th maybe of the Og playerbase

[heavy citrus]

Prolly only needed in le havoc

Ogryn giga tanky otherwise already

[proven storm]

lower

[white blade]

1/50th

Genuinely idek

They're genuinely more polarizing than psyker

[stiff pier]

That's because most ogryns moved to Havoc

I see lots of Ogryns in the Party finder for Havoc

Might actually be 3rd most popular class or so

[white blade]

I play havoc and generally regret accepting Ogryn regardless of CL

[summer vector]

ogryn is just so unfun

[stiff pier]

Nowadays it's a lot more common to see gungryns in the party finder

[summer vector]

ive never hated playing a class more than ogryn

[stiff pier]

Someone has never played gunlugger with power maul xdd

[next meadow]

Scum best boi

[summer vector]

i did

[white blade]

Genuinely idk if Skittles are gonna pull me off scum past the penances

I'm not into pet classes to begin with

[acoustic dagger]

Ogryn is very boring and frustrating to play
I love pocketing ogryn randoms myself but whenever I qp as ogryn I get left in the dust and get my health chipped away by ranged trash

[acoustic dagger]

I'm kinda starting to warm up to dog arby ngl lol
But only in moderation

[summer vector]

gunlugger is actually more boring than playing ogryn normally

[white blade]

I tbh have cooled off dog arb hard lately, I don't even run it with EO anymore

[acoustic dagger]

Only gungryn build I had fun with was the hstub sniper

[summer vector]

and if i wanted to play gunlugger i'd enjoy it 50x on scum

[next meadow]

Yeah, same tbh. it'll be fun till the class gets worked out, then as usual, most will go back to their mains

[white blade]

HStub is the only Og gun I really like

[acoustic dagger]

It was fun when I played darktide buzzed yesterday

[white blade]

Scum is tbh the only thing to pull me off vet since release

Dog arb is peak brain off ngl

[stiff pier]

Imagine not getting into a powertrip that is soloing Havoc 40 as stealth zealot

[next meadow]

Aye, dog arb is no it

[acoustic dagger]

It hits just right when I cant lock in for sure

[summer vector]

fatmangus stealth zealot is really fun

[stiff pier]

Fair and balanced combat ability

[pallid rock]

Would I rather be invincible with amazing damage or be invincible+ with mediocre damage

[white blade]

I'm ngl to you I kinda debate doing this with a duo cause it might be easier than progging with randoms

[pallid rock]

Hmmmmm

[stiff pier]

I mean

[white blade]

Dog is genuinely a hard carry

[stiff pier]

I'm currently trying to find a group to just speedrun havoc assignment once the restart happens with skitarii release

[white blade]

Dog arb is peak "I have no brain function and want to win"

[acoustic dagger]

I would watch the dog get as far into a dense enemy horde then press g it was actually pretty funny

[white blade]

I genuinely love the little game that is micro managing shock dog tbh

[stiff pier]

I remember someone saying "I'd absolutely replace a teammate for a second dog"

[white blade]

Yeah

Some people?

Yeah.

[summer vector]

i miss lethal proximity puncture dog

[acoustic dagger]

I mean no shit lmao

[white blade]

Micromanaging shock dog and if you want to make it harder adding the bleed perk in is probably the most gameplay arb has to offer

[pallid rock]

That's what I play dogless arb for. Stack BTL, shield special, and infinite impacts.
I require no skill if I can just point three forms of instant hard stagger on CD at things

[acoustic dagger]

I'd rather solo with three dogs than play with another fuckass ranged only zealot who unloads all ammo into trash hordes

[next meadow]

Arb is kinda just that tbh, brain-off stagger-bot

[white blade]

Imagine solo+4 dog arb

You'd be unstoppable tbh

Yours+1 for each teammate

If you took shock dog would they all detonate at once?

[summer vector]

realistically what more would you want from arbites (other than moving nuncio)

[stiff pier]

I know someone did a solo run by just permablocking with shield

And letting the dog kill everything

[neat laurel]

Remove nuncio Aquila

[next meadow]

New drip.

[stiff pier]

xdddd

[next meadow]

[summer vector]

cus arbites is like the perfect riot control fantasy imo

gameplay wise

[stiff pier]

Yeah that should be Ogryn with charge

But oh well Fatshark had to add a stagger bot removing what's 70% relevant about Ogryn to most

Congrats now everyone expects people to run taunt as ogryn

[pallid rock]

I feel like that probably has more to do with the buffs taunt got

[brittle mortar]

One specific build of it anyway

But it's so good that I can't quit

[stiff pier]

Yeah multiple pulses might be an issue in retrospective

[hollow zephyr]

I run the mace and shield with Castigator

[brittle mortar]

Shieldmaul + MK3 exe shotgun + Kaya collar + BTL + Forceful

Route for dog buffs, melee damage, tankiness

[summer vector]

kaya collar

[brittle mortar]

Let the pup do its thing, violently apply yourself to the enemy, demolish hordes and groups of small elites with the shotty

Win

[hollow zephyr]

I run the boltgun because boltgun

[summer vector]

i pray that skitarii has some ammo printing like scum/vet

not because its a good mechanic but because im too lazy to scavenge for pickups

[stiff pier]

I hope they don't actually

I want to see tourists learning how to melee

[tough wedge]

I see a box, I open da box.

Teammates down? Dog got them? Trapper trapped another? Step aside cause I'm b lining for a box with nothing in it.

[hollow zephyr]

Swing, Dodge. Repeat

[jagged marten]

electrify on pounce is a massive boost to utility for the dog

[summer vector]

i really wanna know more about the new weapons

mostly how the new power sword and arc maul are any different

[hollow zephyr]

extra electric

[stiff pier]

Trust me I love watching casual Darktide streamers, that had played in the past and they still don't do that

[hollow zephyr]

Sure there is a bit of variety with throwing shoves into heavies but the basics will always be there

[stiff pier]

I'm pretty sure new Powersword will work with a heat system + apply the new arc debuff

It's the path of least resistance

[hollow zephyr]

I'm ready for some Electric Mayhem

[stiff pier]

Considering new arc debuff is supposed to spread among enemies

It's gonna be kinda chaotic

I'm more interested in using the sword and dagger wannabe tho

[summer vector]

id assume something like kerillian's sword and dagger

[stiff pier]

Well yes

I'm 90% sure it'll have

The exact same moveset

Only exception being the special

[hollow zephyr]

But cleave-tastic

[serene cargo]

Real, same

[stiff pier]

I mean sword and dagger has good cleave

[hollow zephyr]

I didn't play a whole lot of Kerillian

[pallid rock]

I was kinda surprised seeing they get S&D I didn't expect a high finesse/mob build for them

[hollow zephyr]

Mostly Saltz and Kruber

[opal thistle]

More melee & ranged weapons

[summer vector]

i played mostly foot knight and grail knight

[hollow zephyr]

It's been a dog's age since they gave any of the existing classes new weapons

[summer vector]

so arbites was what i wanted

ive never heard that saying in my life

[stiff pier]

Chainaxe for arbites

[summer vector]

i dont think ive ever equipped a chainaxe in this game

[opal thistle]

Arb is my 2nd fav class but he could use more melee weapon (and/or variants)

[stiff pier]

Hater?

[summer vector]

it just looks ugly

[stiff pier]

Hater

[opal thistle]

Chainaxe XII is a pretty competent melee atm

[summer vector]

ive never seen its move set either

[opal thistle]

It’s also really simple

[pallid rock]

I'll be all aboard with chaxe as soon as they give us a 2H

[acoustic dagger]

Huh

[summer vector]

its 1 handed?

[acoustic dagger]

Chainaxe fucking blows what

[stiff pier]

????

Chainaxe is havoc viable lol

[acoustic dagger]

Least fun melee alongside hsword

[stiff pier]

WHAT CALLING HSWORD UNFUN IS A CRIME

These people only use duelling sword 💔

[opal thistle]

Psyker players man

[stiff pier]

Even me, the best and undoubtly perfect duelling sword master

[opal thistle]

(I still think it’s nowhere as good as before)

[summer vector]

i only maxed my DS after uncanny changes

[stiff pier]

Gets bored from playing DS 24/7

[summer vector]

so its still fun to me

[stiff pier]

It got slapped on the wrist at most

[hollow zephyr]

I use the two handed force sword because it's special is a blade beam

But dueling sword is fun

[opal thistle]

Nah the adm changes are honestly significant

[acoustic dagger]

Dueling sword is much less boring to use after the nerfs yeah

[stiff pier]

Yeah but I was using Relentless anyways so

Breakpoints didn't change for me

[opal thistle]

Relentless still ass

[acoustic dagger]

Also I run shock maul on my psyker 🖕

[serene cargo]

If only we had a full auto gun on skitarii

[stiff pier]

It's my goat, shredding bosses and twins so fast

And now that uncanny applies limited brittleness, it means I get more use out of it against h40 crushers

[opal thistle]

Relentless manages to be worse than the fuckass Decimator which is a feat not considered possible in human history

[hollow zephyr]

Maybe we get the Flechette blaster in the future

[stiff pier]

Sadly I can't use thrust

Since it's still bugged

Otherwise I would run thrust

[opal thistle]

I just do riposte precog on it now

[stiff pier]

Eh... It's hard for me to not run uncanny

40% is still 40%

[opal thistle]

It’s fairly competent with crit

Without crit it does basically nothing

Might as well heal enemies

[stiff pier]

I'm already playing zealot

[acoustic dagger]

I dropped uncanny of all my weapons after the nerf

[serene cargo]

huuuge maybe

but also Radium Carbine would be peak

[stiff pier]

I already have the crit

I don't need riposte

[acoustic dagger]

It's rly refreshing not to use it

[void ruin]

...

[pallid rock]

Hold up. How is thrust bugged?

First I'm hearing

[stiff pier]

For knife I'd say uncanny is a must run

And you're insane if you don't

[supple vale]

Well an auto aim ability is just really bad design imo. Skill expression is what makes this game fun. I don't want it to aim for me.

[opal thistle]

I’m also of the opinion that the current best melee probably is between Karsolas / power maul

[void ruin]

I don't use uncanny on knife now lol

[stiff pier]

Insane

[acoustic dagger]

I run flesh tearer and mercy killer now it's fun

[void ruin]

Riposte Precog stonks have risen

[stiff pier]

SO MANY RIPOSTE PRECOG EVERYWHERE

[karmic verge]

Call me cypress hill

[stiff pier]

Wraaaaa

[opal thistle]

Nah mercy executor is pretty legit on vet

[void ruin]

ITS ALMOST LIKE ITS ALWAYS BEEN GOOD BUT FUCKASS UNCANNY WAS JUST OP

[stiff pier]

I like mercy killer

Executor for knife not so much

[opal thistle]

I like how I gaslit people here to use “fuckass”

[opal thistle]

It’s gud

[bitter drift]

Skitarii tomorrow

[sand folio]

i love darktide

[stiff pier]

I know, just a personal thing

Executor is goode

[karmic verge]

You have never gaslit anyone

[stiff pier]

FATSHARK PLEASE FIX THRUST

AND I'LL BECOME INVINCIBLE

[opal thistle]

I have gaslit a lot of people into abbreviating arbites as arb

[karmic verge]

No i think you are just misremembering :3

[stiff pier]

I'll always call them arby or arbi

[acoustic dagger]

Humblest darktide community member

[stiff pier]

Also how is that gaslighting

[void ruin]

Arbingtrator

[stiff pier]

That's not what the term means >:(

(and don't say yes it is)

[heavy raptor]

Shistol

[karmic verge]

Fuck you predicted me XD

[opal thistle]

What’s the bug now

Does it not work?

[stiff pier]

It does normally

But I'm sure it's not a new bug

The issue is that when you have higher ping

It takes longer to start ticking the stacks

[opal thistle]

It only starts stacking after the game registers a heavy attack input

[stiff pier]

Well apparently it's not based from the gane

Game*

[opal thistle]

Did u actually check frames

[stiff pier]

It's based on the server

[stiff pier]

It's fucking night and day I test it on psykanium and then test it on a NA server with 200 ping

The difference is exactly requiring an extra 200 ms to start ticking in

Which does make it unusable for me

[opal thistle]

Oh then prob smth to do with server

Not the blessing’s fault

[stiff pier]

Yes that's the bug

[opal thistle]

It’s bad enough already

[stiff pier]

Technically it is

If the Game can confirm you're doing a heavy attack input before the server registers it

It should also confirm thrust stacks before the server registers it

[opal thistle]

It’s prob smth to do with FS forcing most things to be server sided

[stiff pier]

I'd say most things are clientside actually

Only getting shot, grabbed by trapper / chaos spawn and explosions are server side

And well, apparently thrust blessing as well

[opal thistle]

Animations are also server sided

[stiff pier]

Ok true but I was gonna say like

[acoustic dagger]

Animations are absolutely serverside

[stiff pier]

Surgical works perfectly even with high ping

So it's stupid that thrust doesn't

That's a clear bug

[karmic verge]

Server tide

[acoustic dagger]

It's why they get so fucked and repeat when your connection is unstable

[stiff pier]

I did report it and they did mark it as aknowledged

I really hope the fix comes with the Skitarii

[opal thistle]

lol

Lmao

[acoustic dagger]

Keep dreaming ig lol

[stiff pier]

Depression

High ping gamers getting hated as always

I already need to become god to kill dreg ragers without getting hit since ping

And they won't do this for me

Grrrr

[acoustic dagger]

Not worth tbh

[opal thistle]

Yea FS enjoys watching u get quadruple penetrated by Dreg ragers

[stiff pier]

On the brightside I'm goated with the sauce

[jagged marten]

the most annoying part is when the server is really wonky so enemies start gliding and you just die instantly

[stiff pier]

I'm the sad side is that I really wanna use thrust

[stiff pier]

Hold block, Open chat, /retry

I'm not dealing with that bs!!1!!!

[opal thistle]

All that for a mid blessing

https://tenor.com/view/charlie-kirk-tony-stark-avengers-kirkified-gif-4618820868378725995

[stiff pier]

I don't think you understand I'm a passionate Rapier player in VT2

And rapier has thrust by default

[opal thistle]

Didn’t most vt2 weapons have that by default anyway

[stiff pier]

Not really

Most weapons don't have a 2nd heavy state actually

Surprisingly enough

[pallid rock]

Just rapier and warpick iirc

[opal thistle]

Damn that means you’re rly passionate about mid

https://tenor.com/view/charlie-kirk-tony-stark-avengers-kirkified-gif-4618820868378725995

[stiff pier]

I'm a weakspot gamer

If my weakspot on DS is below 75% I'm killing myself

[proven storm]

https://gifconvert.vxtwitter.com/convert.avif?url=https://video.twimg.com/tweet_video/HJOKrghXoAALGT-.mp4

[stiff pier]

Chuds worrying about stagger breakpoints and such

Meanwhile I'm just poking heads happy

[acoustic dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/subtitle-error-the-boys-butcher-the-boys-the-boys-edit-billy-butcher-gif-13334216149328462049

[opal thistle]

Yk those 2 are related right

https://tenor.com/view/charlie-kirk-tony-stark-avengers-kirkified-gif-4618820868378725995

[stiff pier]

Imagine duelling sword for skitarii lmao

[stiff pier]

I think you should drop dead!!!

[opal thistle]

I think u should learn to love urself

https://tenor.com/view/peaceemote-peace-peaceful-gif-15091939045954194911

[jagged marten]

i mean

[jagged marten]

witch hunter captain rapier

[opal thistle]

Yea but thrust in DT

[stiff pier]

Witch Hunter Captain is Hive Scum but well designed

Actual glass cannon

[stiff pier]

I like my hits how I like my women

fat

[pallid rock]

Is it though. Basically every VT class has the ability to slurp an entire bar of THP in seconds now

[white blade]

They did not need to buff WHCs health I'm ngl

[stiff pier]

I suppose but you still get fucked way quicker than in DT

I mean the only reliable way to do that as WHC is

Sting + the level 30 talent that gives you 100% crits

To be fair I do rarely play adventure/chaos wastes anymore

Most of my sessions is just playing versus now cuz it's awesome

And I found a group of high level players that make the experience not suck dick

So we just 4v4 in private and it's goode

[pallid rock]

Dang I didn't realize eight people even played versus

[stiff pier]

There's currently like a considerable amount of players since x2 xp event

So many are playing to farm versus level

But other than that private games are goode when you have frens to play with

Unironically way better experience than adventure xddd

Nothing beats killing a troll knowing it was another player and you owned them

[pallid rock]

I'm just slandering versus out of habit, I've still not actually tried it ngl

still shocked it even actually exists

[stiff pier]

A shame, if it's a balanced lobby it's hella fun

The biggest issue to versus dying outside of fatshark refusal to class balance

Is the refusal to prevent veterans from joining the same team and stomping on newbies

[opal thistle]

Given FS’s last 3 modes for DT we might even get DT versus

[stiff pier]

DT versus would be so bad

[opal thistle]

Ik

[stiff pier]

And I say this as a mega fan of VT2 Versus

[opal thistle]

Which is exactly why they might do it

[stiff pier]

Like I love versus gamemodes in asymm games

But the issue with versus in DT

Is that most specials wouldn't be player compatible

That and of course DT rejects having nearly infinite movespeed

Don't even get me started how should shooters be even handled

[opal thistle]

Imagine spawning in as a Tox bomber and getting 1 tapped by a plasma exe stance vet through 5 concrete walls and a spawn door 40m away

[stiff pier]

Basically xddd

But I'm most concerned about people just abusing knife for very fast movetech

And reaching the end way quicker

[opal thistle]

I’d assume limited loadout for each class and all high move speed weapons are not within the loadouts available

But even still

[stiff pier]

Thus giving specials less cycles to spawn

[stiff pier]

Well even if we assume that

[opal thistle]

It’s gonna be 4 power swords unless it’s also not allowed

[stiff pier]

From personal experience

Players will run whatever allows them to:

1- shut down specials

2- fastest movement speed

In that order

Powersword might be kinda poopoo in versus

[opal thistle]

Yea so after all high move speed melee gets yeeted it’s basically just dps check

[stiff pier]

Tacaxe, DS, Knife would be the best options

[uncut solstice]

well, I am sort of excited.

[opal thistle]

Ye gone

[stiff pier]

DPS check doesn't matter for shit

In versus

[opal thistle]

Why

[stiff pier]

Because enemies will not have high HP, the main threat comes from the special players

Like, normal enemies are not a threat in versus mode from both games that have it

If we go with VT2 versus as an example

Hordes have the easiest difficulty values

Elites have the 2nd easiest difficulty values

And only specials (players) get legend/cataclysm values

[opal thistle]

That sounds rly boring ngl

[stiff pier]

Well no, it makes the most sense

[opal thistle]

No wonder the mode died

[stiff pier]

The biggest threat should be the enemy players

[opal thistle]

Ye ik

[stiff pier]

What's the point if players are as threatening as the ai xdd

That will just leave a game to luck rather than consistent skill xdd

[opal thistle]

DT lowest ~ second lowest are massively less hp than damnation/auric

[stiff pier]

Reminder that hero power

Is capped to 115 in versus

Instead of the normal 650 max power

So while the Ai is still easy to kill

They have enough meat that when combined with coordinated special attacks

They will present a problem to heroes

(unless heroes abuse the specific OP versus classes that fatshark refused to nerd for versus)

[opal thistle]

lol

[stiff pier]

(Warrior priest, Footknight, Outcast Engineer)

[opal thistle]

I hope they do more weapons & maps over modes

[stiff pier]

Oh absolutely

[opal thistle]

And add an endgame to expeditions

Might as well pull the plug on Mortis atp

[stiff pier]

They really need to address the lack of extraction shooter elements in the extraction shooter gamemode

[opal thistle]

I wouldn’t even call it an “extraction shooter”

It’s just helldivers 2

[stiff pier]

It literally is an extraction shooter gameplay wise

[hard rune]

nerf ogryn rock + frag talents in mortis just to make ogryn mains mad

[stiff pier]

Helldivers has mandatory objectives

[opal thistle]

What’s the last extraction shooter u played

[stiff pier]

Expeditions doesn't

[pallid rock]

that's the only real difference in structure aside from multiple maps

[opal thistle]

Are u seriously telling me expeditions is anything like tarkov/arc/marathon/arena breakout

[stiff pier]

Not exactly played it but back then I was thinking of playing dark and darker

[stiff pier]

I'm talking more about the fact that there's nothing you can "win" by completing expeditions

And nothing to spend whatever that you win for on

[opal thistle]

TR needs to be used for smth

It needs an endgame badly

A tie in to the game’s meta progression

[stiff pier]

Yes this is exactly why I'm saying the extraction shooter gamemode is missing one of the main extraction shooter things

Ok HEAR ME OUT

[opal thistle]

Dude u have not played a single extraction shooter I think u need to calm down

[stiff pier]

Tech remnants:

Now you can use them to buy major indulgences and minor indulgences

Like you can add them to your loadout, and they'll automatically get added on Expedition runs

How many you can bring and all that, doesn't matter up to them

[opal thistle]

I think TR should be allowed to be used to upgrade curios

[stiff pier]

And from that you can add more difficulties on expeditions and/or make current difficulties more extreme in the jump

[opal thistle]

And maybe max out weapon stat bars to 80x5

[stiff pier]

I'd rather not

[opal thistle]

Why

[stiff pier]

Force people play expeditions to max out things

Like curios is fine since

You can get them in other ways

But there's no way to get 80x5 weapons

And your proposal would make it the only way

[opal thistle]

Its not that relevant for most people anyway

[stiff pier]

That's even worse

Because you're forcing those who do not like the gamemode to play it to get max stuff

[opal thistle]

I’m fine with that tbh

[opal thistle]

No just that the difference between maxing and not maxing is not that huge

[stiff pier]

I feel it is, I've tried DS with 60 and 80 on mobility and the difference is night and day

Same with crusher bleh

[opal thistle]

No it’s just +0.8 vs +0.89

You gaslit urself

[stiff pier]

I know

[stiff pier]

I didn't

I do notice even is small

[opal thistle]

No u did lol

[stiff pier]

I'm notttt

I do notice it aaaa

[opal thistle]

It’s a 1.5% extra sprint speed with stamina

You did really gaslight urself

[delicate tundra]

was it on the same character?

with the same build?

[stiff pier]

Yes

Yes

[opal thistle]

Yea so real gaslighting

[stiff pier]

Sry but I do notice it

[delicate tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/you're-gaslighting-me-bean-abbi-jacobson-disenchantment-you're-manipulating-me-gif-14194865954760289001

[opal thistle]

Sure thing man

I’m curious if you’d be able to tell between 2 clips of DS with diff mobility stats if you’re not told which is which prior

[delicate tundra]

I do feel the difference between 60 and 80 mobility psword

[opal thistle]

Well the sprint bonus is 0.09 vs 0.27 which is actually real

That’s like a 3.4% sprint speed bonus

I still like 60% mobility with slaughterer tho

[delicate tundra]

stagger fiend!

[opal thistle]

Gives u like 4x longer rager stagger duration

3~4x

[delicate tundra]

relic with GW and rampage is so damn safe for shroud zealot

[opal thistle]

I like punishment too tbh

Punishment + GW is very underrated

[sterile light]

Who needs mobility stat when you can side dodge far enough off of stairs to take fall damage

Im scummin here

[silk lantern]

putting this in my out of context folder

[noble turret]

Not even worth it

[delicate tundra]

I fear that skitarii will have shit mobility

[silk lantern]

i hope skitarii will have shit mobility

:3

[delicate tundra]

I can understand

[pallid rock]

S&D and a 1h club seem to imply at least decent mob

[jagged marten]

ruststalker will have pretty solid mobility

[delicate tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/celebrate-robo-bot-boogie-breakdance-gif-1775654416813269104

[pallid rock]

Those weapon classes have always had good base dodge stats

[delicate tundra]

I was talking about base stats

[opal thistle]

It should happen unless ruststalker branch with specific talent tbh

[delicate tundra]

hmm yeah they could have shit base stats but something very modular

so you could go slow but tanky, fast but fragile

[silk lantern]

1 base hp

[delicate tundra]

sold

give this man Mr E media access

[solar pivot]

yo i heard that there is a powder that make you say Assasin tomorrow

[jagged marten]

powder that makes you say aeldari corsair tomorrow

[silk lantern]

skitarii tomorrow

[karmic verge]

Skitarius tomorrow

[olive yew]

Skitty squad 💪

[silk lantern]

kitty cat

[hollow zephyr]

Skitarii are fairly quick on the tabletop so I doubt they're going to be slow

A Ruststalker path would likely include a speed boost

Sicarians are faster than standard Skitarii

It wouldn't surprise me if they had a boosted Stamina pool

Steel never tires, after all

[mellow gull]

ogryn levels of stamina with .25 stamina regen delay

[solar pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/tts-its-our-boy-gif-18135000

[solar pivot]

2 health and 3 speed take it or leave it

[hollow zephyr]

Is that the same as the others? I don't think I've ever dug into the basic stats

[clever meadow]

How? Does it just increase light stagger to medium stagger etc? I thought all staggers in one tier are equal until you hit a threshold to go to the next level. Is this not the case?

[karmic verge]

No... they mean literally 2 hp

[hollow zephyr]

Oh, I thought they meant 2 wounds

[karmic verge]

Avg class is like 150 i guess

Wounds are based mostly on diff tho curios and talents in zealots case can change it

Do any classes have a different wound count? I was unaware of any diffs

[mellow gull]

only change is ogryn with +1

otherwise everyone shares wound counts

[karmic verge]

Does he retain the plus 1 in aurics?

[mellow gull]

yea he has 3 instead of 2 like everyone else

[karmic verge]

Thats neat

[mellow gull]

skitarii should get 1 wound per point of health fr fr

the strength of steel

[hollow zephyr]

Hax

[karmic verge]

150 wounds so even someone washed like me can be carried

[mellow gull]

floor tank is a real build

[karmic verge]

At that point just give them infinite revives

[mellow storm]

I don't have much to base this on, but I'm expecting the melee build for Skitarii to be all about going fast and kicking ass, while the ranged build will be relatively slow and incentivized to not move much

[silk lantern]

unfortunately they will only have 1 hp

so only 1 wound

[mellow gull]

heal 100% of hp with a medstim

[karmic verge]

Heres my hypothesis! One of the talents will have the word "protocol" in them.

Another will have the word "subroutine"

[hollow zephyr]

I expect the Galvanic Riffle to have a Blessing that increases the damage as you stand still like some of the other rifles

[mellow storm]

No!

[heady aurora]

I am guessing the ranged build will be about target locking and auto aim mechanics

so paradoxically has tons of movement options

[mellow gull]

this is the last time we see you before youre executed for leaking talents

[karmic verge]

YOULL SEE NONBELIEVER

[mellow gull]

[silk lantern]

what other rifles are you talking about

i dont think there is anything like that

[karmic verge]

My most wild take that will 100 percent be wrong is that we are getting more then 6 uniques and the cosmetics just max at 6

[hollow zephyr]

The Boltgun has it

[karmic verge]

Thats a gun not a rifle silly! /j

[hollow zephyr]

Semantics

[silk lantern]

no it doesnt

[karmic verge]

Do you mean bolt pistols aim down sights buff

Surgical is maybe what they mean

[silk lantern]

theyre still wrong cause that has nothing to do with standing still

[karmic verge]

Tho you can move a bit even if not super fast while ADSing

[hollow zephyr]

The crit chance one is what I was thinking of

[karmic verge]

Yeah for sure they were inaccurate but i get what they mean and thats what language is all about

[hollow zephyr]

I misremembered it. Sue me

[mellow storm]

from what they've said, the talent tooltips we've seen, and the general theming of the different kinds of Skitarii, I expect we're gonna get a ranged "Ranger" build that's all about taking a position and picking off targets from long range, with an ability that works similarly to Soldier 76 in overwatch, where you activate it and get autoaim on priority targets as long as you aim near them.

Then we'll get a melee berserker build that's all about channeling the motive force to rush forward like a demented squirrel overdosing on cocaine, with an ability that lets you go even faster (I'm thinking increased movement speed, no stamina spent on sprinting, and no cooldown on dodges).

And then we'll get a "caster" build that's meant for midrange and throwing lightning around. Probably have an ability that's "everything in that general area must die", and probably leaves a lingering pool of arc energy that deals damage to enemies that stand or walk into it

[silk lantern]

alright

you will hear from my lawyers soon

[karmic verge]

Yeah i agree with your actual point that galavanic rifle will have surgical, even if you misremembered its exact thing

[hollow zephyr]

Yeah, it's definitely a sharpshooter blessing

[heady aurora]

hope it has iron sights

[karmic verge]

Im sure the helbores talents has some we might see as well but im.only guessing as i dont know its actual talent choices

[karmic verge]

It does btw

[heady aurora]

I enjoy my marksman rifles with iron sights

[karmic verge]

We saw its sights

[silk lantern]

rion

[heady aurora]

ye

type to fast, fail

it happens

[karmic verge]

Well your dream has come true regardless

They showed the rifle shooting smth and it was definitely iron sights

I think it was in the 3 minute developer showcase thing

[opal thistle]

It goes from light to medium stagger, and stagger above threshold can also affect the stagger’s duration

The result is that power sword normally staggers ragers for ~0.2s but with max slaughterer it’s almost 0.8s

[karmic verge]

Its grey name! Welcome to the skitty squad

Nvm they stopped typing

[little plume]

Had to stop for powder

[karmic verge]

More powder! The skitarri tomorrows will continue

[young panther]

second one seems based on the Sicarian ruststalker

given we also have a cosmetic for one it would make sense

but the 'caster' build is interesting

as the Ukrainian leak claimed it was a Corpuscarii priest inspired

[heady aurora]

could also be something like the servo skull has a targeting optic that gives your shots bullet tracking, or arc affected targets gain bullet magnetism

[hollow zephyr]

You'll never take me alive!

[young panther]

I don't recall any electropriesthood specific skitarii

the electropriests themselves tend to be combatants

so maybe thats why ?

[hollow zephyr]

Corpuscari are really specific about their weapons. It wouldn't be any real variety

Just electro staves and those shackles

[mellow storm]

yeah, that's sorta what I picture. An electropriest that calls down the lightning and leans into the arc debuff real good

probably won't be literally an electropriest, but it'll lean in that direction

[humble rock]

Itll most likely be skitarii variants

Electropriests are a different unit altogether

Much more specialized

[hollow zephyr]

Having an electric field that adds Arc to your weapons and also passively zaps nearby enemies could be fun

Could have an enhancement called Hypertuned Dynamo that extends the duration as you kill enemies

I think Corpuscarii have the ability to rip the bioelectricity from people

[misty ravine]

Y'all think there's gonna be a dev-blog on Thursday?

[humble rock]

Theres the fulgurite and the corpuscarii from what I remember

One overloads people with the motive force, the other takes it away

[delicate tundra]

Another day making chuds and neckbeards unsafe.

[misty ravine]

My Skitarii is gonna be a pale imitation of Archon of Flesh's Hadron-44 Stroika

[void ruin]

Something something heresy

[heady aurora]

I will be happy with robocop stomping all over heretics, no need for gender in here

[floral widget]

"We are the Skitarii 4" ahh post

[delicate tundra]

Maybe I will name mine Carry-Me-Senpai instead of EC_2014

[slow saffron]

Skitussi

We taking over 😈

[patent flume]

Am i the only one who thinks skitari weapon customization should come from tech remnants from expeditions

[jagged marten]

lemme do a higher quality one

[pallid rock]

I think I recognize that guy from stormveil castle

[jagged marten]

i dont think tech remnants are tracked as a currency

[mellow gull]

whats the robot in the back called again?

[pallid rock]

Most likely

[jagged marten]

kastellan robot

[mellow gull]

kastellan robot cosplay as ogryn on skitarii release fr

[patent flume]

What do you mean? It says how many i have accumulated in aggregate via penance tracker

[jagged marten]

yeah penance progress but not as its own currency alongside dockets plasteel diamantine etc

[patent flume]

Yes fair. But it should be i think so it nakes ecpeditions useful

[jagged marten]

good soup

[patent flume]

Or if thet need to make a new currenxy fron expedirions

[pallid rock]

Players never appreciate being forced to play stuff they don't want to in order to play the stuff they actually want

[silk lantern]

https://tenor.com/view/heresy-detected-warhammer-40k-warhammer-horus-horus-heresy-gif-10990488926383062289

[pallid rock]

There would justifiably be a riot

[slow saffron]

"guys I would totally be the black templars"

[patent flume]

Maybe but i dont like playing mortis trials but i have to do so if i want penances. Also expeditions can be reworked into something good. Faith in ObeseMegladon

[wheat bison]

could be the titan guard skitarii since they have arc lances but that would surprise me

[humble rock]

Secutarii?

Would be pretty cool

[young panther]

Has there at any point been any motive force using skitarii beyond their weapons sometimes being arc weapons ?

[wheat bison]

secutarii hoplites would be too nice

[humble rock]

I mean the way I see it is that these skitarii are specially modified for small fireteams and act like spec ops so they may have access to a wider range of admech goodies

Instead of restricted to the normal skitarii bits

[wheat bison]

but what makes more sense to me are the two skitarii variants and the two sicarian variants

[young panther]

Vanguards are very similar to Rangers @wheat bison

[wheat bison]

so the 4 trees would be ranger, vanguard, ruststalker and infiltrator

[humble rock]

Yeah I would assume theyd add sicarian stuff

[young panther]

so they can easily fit

Ranger/Vanguard in the same tree
Ruststalker
Infiltrator
Secutarii

[humble rock]

God imagine
2 or more vanguards using rad weapons would conjure a mini rad storm

[wheat bison]

i mean if this is it i think they will just cut vanguard

[humble rock]

My favorite thing is seeing people finally pay attention to the admech now and failing horribly to understand them

[young panther]

Skitarii Rangers are the dime a dozen skitarii

Rad-Troopers beyond being better armored are more or less skitarii rangers

[wheat bison]

i think lore wise no chance we get secutarii

[young panther]

tbf as many people have said we are not regular skitarii

we are alpha primus skitarii that are custom built

[wheat bison]

i truly do think the 2 variants model is most likely

and probably that electric one is the infiltrator

[wheat bison]

i suppose thats true

[humble rock]

Unless there's a titan buried down there, secutarii proper aren't making an appearance. Maybe their equipment but not the troopers themselves

[young panther]

Infiltrators also don't really use arc weapons in the way its described

[void ruin]

If you didn't need more clarification as to how absolutely bad things are in Tertium

[young panther]

thats more of a Secutarii thing

[humble rock]

Im hoping for flechette weapons

A la pteraxxi