skitarii-class

[wintry musk]

A STC is so valuable it can get you a planet

[heavy citrus]

They can just use that as a justification

[silk arrow]

right

[twin wasp]

Also like, from a meta perspective, this game is about playing as low level grunts not the bigboys like marines/techpriests

[silk arrow]

Adamantine is the resource i think they specialize on atoma. I think the supply chain has been affected by the war. Kinda hormus vibe goin on

[unique lagoon]

named low level boys
the rejects we play are essentially the ones who do complete the missions 4vseveral hundreds

[silk arrow]

Here is a exp pdf just to show you the comparisson between power levels in dark heresy between a tech priest, veteran, and arby

you can see a tech priest is the same power level as the rest of us

theres seems to be some confusion about what a tech priest is and how they scale

[nimble quarry]

Because Atoma is, while not quite on the level of a dedicated Forge World, still a major manufacturing hub for the entire sector, with some pretty special metal ore that's better than standard plasteel, hives as well are extremely ancient structures that have some of their own forgotten tech running it, which is why no new hives are constructed and the Imperium can just barely keep the existing ones functional.

[silk arrow]

a good way to see is by playing rogue trader, you start off with a tech priest in your retinue along with astra miltarum navy psyker etc

[nimble quarry]

Lastly there's also archeotech in the desert surrounding the Hive.

[silk arrow]

sister of battle etc

[unique lagoon]

Hadron has also been asking Grendyl to requisition Skitarii for a while

[silk arrow]

its all the same power level

[elder sky]

This is bizarre, I’ve been playing Mechanicus II and it was just revealed that Khepra is now “inducted into the tech-clergy”, is this the first instance of a skitarii becoming a tech-priest? I didn’t even know that was possible

It’ll definitely give me higher aspirations for my Darktide skitarii 😎

[silk arrow]

I don’t really think skitarri transition into tech priests. I think they’re build solely for war. Perhaps there’s instances where some high performing one transitions. I think of Skitarri more like astra militarum. Expendable, numerous, one track mind, drone soldiers.

[wintry musk]

When do the Skitarii drop?

[unique lagoon]

i imagine the reason we got skitarii is because they're the "footsoldiers", rather than sending tech-priests

[silk arrow]

21 June I think

[unique lagoon]

23rd

[silk arrow]

Just funny to me bc we already have veteran and arbitrator

Seems like another martial wing from humans is excessive when tech priests are so classic and fun

[unique lagoon]

it's funny in terms of power levels, but i wouldn't necessarily expect tech-priests to really want to go out there when they can send skitarii

inb4 we start getting xeno mercenaries /s

[elder sky]

That’s what I thought, which is why I was surprised to learn Khepra is now a full-on tech priest

[silk arrow]

When looking at the history of smaller strike teams concerning flow of goods n resources you bet you there’s gonna be a up and coming tech priest willing to be put into service to get access to tech

Rogue traders and inquisitors always have a tech priest on hand

[unique lagoon]

to inspect all those cogs

[jagged marten]

aeldari corsairs could def happen

[unique lagoon]

funnily enough, i find aeldari to be another jump higher on the power level scale

[silk arrow]

Whenever I gm for dark heresy or watch play throughs there’s always a tech priest in the party

They are so classic

[twin wasp]

Idk i feel like eldar would be a step too far for the game yk

[unique lagoon]

that said, we are in fact on essentially what is a rogue trader's ship and working for a lord inquisitor, so y'know

[brittle mortar]

and that's why there's a tech priest in the party in darktide too

her name is hadron

[unique lagoon]

sweet sassy ladybot

[cloud egret]

mommy hadron

[silk arrow]

Pretty sure an eldari ranger is about the same power levels as the the rest of the gang

[unique lagoon]

i wouldn't think so, aeldaris are much stronger fighters than humans are
even if our Rejects are kinda much sharper tools in the shed than the average, Aeldari are still pretty much higher

not that the novels really show that off well...

[silk arrow]

She’s a several hundred years old technoarchaeologist, not some budding explorator. Tech priests trying to make a name for themselves get hired on into inquisitorial warbands and rogue trader warbands for many reasons.

[jagged marten]

i mean

we regularly kill beasts of nurgle

[silk arrow]

Right so the lore versus reality on table top are two different things

[jagged marten]

daemons capable of melting space marines by their near pressence

[unique lagoon]

hadrons having to bless xeno tech would probably be funny

[silk arrow]

Look at wrath and glory and follow experience charts

[jagged marten]

we kill daemonhosts which is no small thing

[silk arrow]

If they have the same experience as our careers in game it’s the same power level

[jagged marten]

we could make it so the admonition cult leaders are in possesion of a cache of soulstones

[native tusk]

eh, mc of darktide on another level

[jagged marten]

that would atract them

[unique lagoon]

well, by wrath and glory, sisters of battle are the same tier as the psykers we do get

[native tusk]

however, an alpha primus skitarii is no joke either

those dudes are kills space marines on regular basis

[silk arrow]

That’s why I predicted tech priests years ago bc if you follow dark heresy career advancements they are the same as the preacher, psyker, veteran, etc

[jagged marten]

sicarian infiltrators are pretty elite on their own

[silk arrow]

Yeah definitely

Cool to take their transonic weapons

[jagged marten]

like we already use a ruststalker mini for the deluxe skin

[native tusk]

we use an alpha ruststalker from mini

[silk arrow]

That’s cool

[unique lagoon]

i guess this is probably the issue with 40k lore

[silk arrow]

And somehow skitarri vanguard is going to join the warband idk im trying to wrap my head around this still

[silk arrow]

Skitarri getting green lit I think was to silence the thousands of people threatening and review bombing when ever they announced anything other than Skitarri

My conspiracy

[unique lagoon]

we should get Kroots next

[silk arrow]

No honestly

Fuck it now

[wintry musk]

They could have skipped the hive gangs and do skitarri as second dlc class

[silk arrow]

Yeah exactly this is the sort of pressure these guys have been dealing with

[unique lagoon]

hive scums cool
also getting cops then robbers is a neat thematic thing

[jagged marten]

skitarii has been in development since arbites was in development

[unique lagoon]

which is why i find getting smth like Kroots next would be pretty funny
getting tribalistic xeno-birds with "crude" armoury after Skitarii sounds like a perfect chiasmus

[silk arrow]

About a year ago Mr E, jojo gaming etc make videos telling the community skitarri are coming. That teaser was obvi a dog running right. Next thing you see Reddit, the fs forums, all over the place crying out for Skitarri. When people found out we weren’t getting that the slander arbites got was ridiculous. One of the most classic og warhammer gangster archetypes being belittled by some Johnny come lately skitarri hype. Shit rubbed me the wrong way. That hype has only grown for them. Now we got Skitarri so folks are happy

[rose spoke]

no way there are people who seriously expecting getting xenos as class

[silk arrow]

It could and should happen

[unique lagoon]

seriously expecting and thinking it would be funny are two different things

[silk arrow]

Kroot is a joke space elf’s is actually on the list

I’d be surprised if we don’t see one xenos class

[unique lagoon]

but again, we are in a rogue trader ship under the authority of a Lord Inquisitor
people who have and will employ xenos

[silk arrow]

It’s just part of the inquisition flare that has always made that faction special within the imperium

[silk arrow]

Exactly

They don’t follow the rules

Hire aliens

[unique lagoon]

Xenos Hybris being as radical as Inquisition can be

[silk arrow]

Just look at deathwatch and the shit they use

Inquisitorial troops can kinda do what they want to do

Xenos are like intrinsically cool and fun bc they are different. Seems like a smart plan to add them if you’re a game developer.

[unique lagoon]

Hadron having to bless xenotech

[silk arrow]

Yikes she is a bit risky tho we love her

[brittle mortar]

I would be if only for the reasons that it'd be a lot of work

[unique lagoon]

it'd be either "holy shit, two cakes" or "yuck"

[brittle mortar]

it is unlikely that GW would allow weaponry overlap between the current shared weapon pool and a xenos of any kind so that makes it an ogryn-tier undertaking

[minor pebble]

I think she leans into the “yuck” department, Kayex would be “holy shit, two cakes”

[minor pebble]

Indeed, unless there are xenos that often use man made weapons but I can’t think of any

Genestealer class

[silk arrow]

This is the other reason I assume they went with Skitarri over tech priests. All the extra mechadenrites, any servators, big heavy cannons on spider arms, giant halberds. It’s all way out there beyond what’s in the game currently.

[unique lagoon]

maybe Votann i guess

[brittle mortar]

that said I want them to stop making classes for now anyway so maybe they could quietly work on a xenos of some kind in the background for the next 2 years

😛

[minor pebble]

I fear they prefer their guns, see imperial ones as “shoddy craftsmanship” as a certain dwarf would say

[unique lagoon]

umgak

[silk arrow]

Any xenos class would function in that realm. Completely separated by models.

[wind latch]

Exemption for Genestealers

Genestealers would use some normal imperium weapons

[unique lagoon]

i really want them to work on performance, and they've sorta began to, but it really should be the priority

issue is that live service asks for constant content

totallyanormalhuman class

[silk arrow]

I really expect alderi to make a stint. Otherwise only xenos I want to see currently is a genestealer cultist under my ogryns boot

[unique lagoon]

genestealer enemies have also been highly requested, i don't imagine they haven't considered it at all
it's just a much bigger job to make a new enemy faction to face that feels complete-ish

[silk arrow]

I really assume this is the next big update

They’re very high on the list of probable threats considering current narrative

[wind latch]

They could always do the creep method

[unique lagoon]

killing the Patriarch as a story mission would be highly pogryn

[silk arrow]

Dude as a final boss fight? You kidding me darktide hasn’t seen hype like that since skittergate

[wind latch]

Start them off as a small batch of units that can spawn in a mission that seem human like, fighting both you and the chaos cultists. Then in a future event add a bit more, and another event highlighting the progression of the genestealers. Till in one update they just drop as a complete and new faction

[neat laurel]

cough cough beastmen from vermintide cough cough

[wind latch]

It’d also play a bit of a storyline time DarkTide

Progressive events

[silk arrow]

Honorary shout out to twins but it’s cheap as hell in a locked special mission event and havoc boss pole

[unique lagoon]

the ghosts of VT2's failings will visit you tonight, Ebenezer Darktide

[silk arrow]

Nothing from darktide has managed to capture vermintide maps and threats w/bosses etc

[silk arrow]

Very very cool idea I love this

[silk arrow]

Exactly

[neat laurel]

honestly, its a shame. considering most groups kill that one captain guy in like 20 seconds

and that means no Disposal Unit beat drop :(

[silk arrow]

Slap in the face keeping new boss locked in a isolated game mode

Idk if they’re beta testing hound master in there or what but huge content L

[unique lagoon]

i do like the two different vibes between VT2 and DT

[neat laurel]

are you talking about the plasma gunner? im talking about the guy that gets off the train

but i agree

[unkempt wave]

packmaster.. 💔

[neat laurel]

oh yeah

super BS

[silk arrow]

No lmfao that’s how sad this is… in expeditions they added a new monster. He’s a giant Ogryn hound master with tusksz great model, nobody ever gets to play against it bc yea..

[olive yew]

Pack master dies so fast anyways

[neat laurel]

i want my arbitrator friend to feel the same pain i feel as ogryn against dogs

[silk arrow]

Dog > dog

[unkempt wave]

make it a regular enemy instead of a boss 😇

[serene totem]

i hope the shop skin this class gets is actually good since they wont make another after it come out

[unkempt wave]

true

[unkempt wave]

I hope the penance cosmetics are good too

[silk arrow]

It almost feels like it. I really just wanna see one scaled for 40 and experience that

[unkempt wave]

would be cool but

so

so annoying lol

if there was multiple

[serene totem]

probably just recolours of base cosmetic like hive-scum got x.x

its soo lame theres no real cosmetics for that class

[unkempt wave]

probably idk I've never went against packmaster

[silk arrow]

20 hounds? No? Lmfao who let the dawgs out

[unkempt wave]

probably not

there was only recolours cause of the whole "choose ur cartel" thing

[silk arrow]

They really have sooooo much shit they could give us. Ad mech are classically bespoke and unique. Less so with Skitarri, but still. I wanna see some good cosmetics

[unkempt wave]

arbites doesn't have much recolours other than the red stuff but the other armors are pretty,,,,, eh??????? Yk

[unique lagoon]

skitarii reveal made me forget that i've been wanting a hellgun for a while, i almost fell into the trap!

[unkempt wave]

whatever the cosmetics are im sure ill like them

[neat laurel]

not happening, add another gamemode no one plays

[unkempt wave]

new battle royale gamemode.. perfect..

[unique lagoon]

ew

[unkempt wave]

lol

[silk arrow]

They got content blocked by GW. I think there’s maybe some legal stuff with the 80’s up to 90’s arbiter models. Might just be over estimating judge dredd vs gw separation

[neat laurel]

PVP like in vermintide but its even worse than that was on launch

5 billion trapper players and they never have to reload

[silk arrow]

Hellgun & melta dreams still dreams

[unkempt wave]

to reload with trapper yiu have to stand still the entire time

[unique lagoon]

Boltgun make me want grav weapons that we will never get

[silk arrow]

I was seriously expecting a tech priest with grav weapons, transonic weapons, heavy plasma, plasma pistol, cog axe, and melta gun. That was my prediction stuff and I’m mad asf at how wrong I was

[unkempt wave]

ehh it STINKS but tech priest wouldnt have fit so

skitarii are still pretty frickin cool...

[silk arrow]

Yeah, a bit more hegemonic and simple to fit in. I think it’s more of a narrative jump than a clad of tech priests joining personally.

Don’t have to worry about funky cosmetics and gear with a regimented standardized military force

[unique lagoon]

the posted reasons are "tech-priests don't fully fit in darktide's warband" and "skitarii are under-explored in video games"

[heavy citrus]

both are cool anyway

dont matter tbh

[silk arrow]

They very much are this is true and exciting

[icy reef]

I hope the shock-mace gets plenty of rag-doll-launching impact

[unique lagoon]

it's not that big of a deal
me like content

apparently the choice for Alpha Primus is because those can operate with more autonomy

[silk arrow]

100% and we should consider ourselves lucky to be the first gamers ever to be in the shoes of a Skitarri ranger. Like it’s really really cool and kinda ground breaking

[crystal token]

We have a Scab Trapper of the Moebian 6th. I want a Dreg Trapper of Admonition. Instead of shooting nets they could place down little traps on the ground that can catch players. Or go Vermintide Hook Rat style and yoink us into a bag, throw us over their shoulder and try to carry us off

[silk arrow]

I love and hate you for this

[unique lagoon]

wait, damn, GSC have webbers too

[crystal token]

Get in the bag

[silk arrow]

It’s a good idea

[icy reef]

There's not much a Tech Priest is really needed for in Darktide missions, we're generally just told to murder everything in a given path and maybe trusted to throw some levers and switches on the way

[silk arrow]

Probably more balanced than the current asshat trapper and if it slowed down their spawn rate I’d be happier for it

[unkempt wave]

recently downloaded vermintide

[crystal token]

The only problem is like... how do you reason an Admonition Trapper is going to LIFT AND CARRY AN OGRYN??

[unkempt wave]

im gonna try it out after sleeping again cause im still tired

[crystal token]

but then gameplay doesn't care because Ogryns get pinned by dogs so

[unique lagoon]

have fun

[crystal token]

big shrug

[unkempt wave]

get a crane

[silk arrow]

Oh my sweet sweet darktiders, tech priests are some of the nastiest foes you can face on a battle field.

[unkempt wave]

ez

[icy reef]

Chaos-God-Given Gains

[mellow gull]

forklift

[unique lagoon]

inquisitor martyr tech class casually followed by two Kastellans

[silk arrow]

Thank you

[unique lagoon]

KASTELLANS ARE EQUIPPED WITH FISTS

[crystal token]

Maybe could do a mutation style thing? Their bodies are increasingly mutated from corruption and they've got one really big muscle arm they use to drag players in a little sack. Sorta like a midway point between your average cultist and a Mutie. Muties can tackle, grab, lift and smash Ogryns too

[silk arrow]

People seem to have short term memory or maybe are new to this. Tech priests are surely, stubborn fighters who do not understand fear or limitations as a veteran or Ogryn even would.

[crystal token]

Big arm grabs and stuffs you into an electro net and then they try to drag you away at a slow speed

But they have to get into melee to do it so they're a different threat to Scab Trappers who can shoot you behind Crusher/Bulwark walls

[unique lagoon]

Ogryns being big babies is still the funniest thing ever

[crystal token]

My fav thing about the Ogryn channel in this discord is looking at the pins and seeing that the first ever pin for Ogryns was a joke LMFAO

they made a pun and it got put on the fridge

everyone else has guides

Ogryns are special

[silk arrow]

Meanwhile a cold calculating human calculator covered in plating welding like 4 weapons and a servo skull is plotting every angle of downfall

Ad mech soldiers are ferocious, more standardized, more disciplined and organized

[unique lagoon]

graft a second dreadnought-tier cannon into my brainstem, brother

[dense solstice]

I read this

Then I read the lore and I see

“Entering an enraged state”

It’s just aimed roid rage

Followed by team speak

[icy reef]

Yes, tech priests can fight, obviously, but they are massively overqualified for the missions we undertake (suicide run kill-em-alls)

[unique lagoon]

perhaps a bit too precious too
like losing one is more egregious than losing 4 skitarii? i dunno

[icy reef]

You're sending in a 300 year old researcher with 4 PHDs to solve a problem that Bogryn the Ogryn also solves by hitting it with a rock he picked up on the way there

[dense solstice]

Well in this case

[unique lagoon]

Rocc

[silk arrow]

This just goes for any ad mech solider right. The skitarri being the regimented, highly standardized, disciplined fighting line compared to the rugged, rag tag, diverse, guerrilla fighting Astra militarum force. They’re almost parallel

[dense solstice]

Other planets are sending millennia old cyborgs because hardon told her friends they found some shit in the expeditions

[icy reef]

Incredibly yeah

[dense solstice]

Yall gotta remember these alpha primaris skitarii are fucking ancient aswell

[silk arrow]

Skitarri are definitely the more disposable entity in comparison always

[unique lagoon]

that might also be one of the true factors in-lore

[icy reef]

A tech priest is usually conducting legions of Skitarii
Sending in tech priests is like sending Zola in herself to do our missions

[silk arrow]

That’s cool, I think these guys are newer in lore. I’m stuck in older hammer where skitarri were basically rad trooper drone lines that are just expected to eventually die on a battle field and scrapped later perhaps.

[unique lagoon]

we already bailed her out in the intro
a few dozen more saves from nets and dogs would be hilarious

[dense solstice]

There’s talks about this a day or so ago

These guys specifically are like

[jagged marten]

hehe

[dense solstice]

Squad commanders

Or some high ranking unit

They’re beyond the standard skitarii

[jagged marten]

alpha primus is a term not used since 7th edition

[dense solstice]

So when I say

These guys are just as old

If not older than hadron

[silk arrow]

These skitarri basically commandos or something?

[dense solstice]

There must be some reaaaaaally important shit for them to be sent to atoma

[unique lagoon]

resident hag isn't as old as expected 😔

[silk arrow]

She’s like 500 years old or something right?

[dense solstice]

Whatever we found during expeditions caused the mechanicus to start wanting to sent their special forces

The expensive ones at that

[unique lagoon]

as far as memes go, she was angry for most of them

[icy reef]

Alpha Skitarii are basically seasoned veterans that have performed enough missions to be trusted without direct oversight from a Tech Priest

[lime mauve]

Sid Meier's Alpha Skitarii

[unique lagoon]

+10% Experience on Curio about to become hip again

[silk arrow]

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Explorator these are the sort of tech priests you could expect in an inquisitorial warband. They’re typically on the front lines and often fighting for access to archeotech

[dense solstice]

I really hope it’s not cope

That we actually physically upgrade our character

From the way it was explained

[jagged marten]

maybe we unlock more limbs the higher level we are

[unique lagoon]

sounding more like cosmetics at character creation

[dense solstice]

That’s also a possibility

[jagged marten]

they wanted to do talents physically altering the character since arbites but scrapped it

maybe here theyll do it

[lilac prawn]

They're basically cyborg soldiers

[silk arrow]

I mean here’s the thing since the 2000’s people have been playing with tech priests in their table top rpg inquisitorial warband as acolytes in dark heresy. It’s the same role we have in darktide, thats the jist.

[icy reef]

Probably just gonna be increasingly elaborate backpacks we unlock

[dense solstice]

What talents could physically alter an Arby besides rebreather

[unique lagoon]

i do want super special leg augs

[dense solstice]

This honest to god would be sexy as fuck tho

[jagged marten]

rebreather carapace armor etc etc

[silk arrow]

Contrary you can also play as a Adeptus administratum character and that would just not work well in a fps albeit there’s ways they could do it but pencil pusher and tech nerd aren’t what people are perhaps looking for

[dense solstice]

Imagine being able to tell what someone’s class ability is by some cosmetic specifically applied only for that ability

[lime mauve]

Castigator Stance makes your jaw comically large

[jagged marten]

i just want my reverse joint legs on skitarii

[unique lagoon]

what y'all name your skittles btw

[icy reef]

Actually yeah certain talents applying cosmetic changes to your character would be neat

[silk arrow]

It would be peak

[jagged marten]

jormungandr

[dense solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/body-cam-off-gif-8501022082645951308

[crystal token]

Lestia-Theta-IX

[unique lagoon]

same legs as Titanfall 2's Stim Pilots please

[storm mountain]

Can someone wake me up on the day skitarii are released

[dense solstice]

Tony

[silk arrow]

I’m honestly not even expecting mechadendrites at this point

[jagged marten]

hmmm reverse joint legs

[lime mauve]

Could always take the Shadowrun route and give the tech nerd his own mini-game while the rest of the party sits around and watches

[dense solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/general-grievous-star-wars-gif-25054286

Imagine a rager seeing some shit like this

Mf just whips out 4 fucking power swords

[unique lagoon]

Hello there

[silk arrow]

I’m petty I want to name it Mr.E Bot

[unique lagoon]

or 2 relic blades

[jagged marten]

in an ideal world skitarii gets access to all power weapons

[dense solstice]

See ima say this again cause no one bothered to mention it

In the trailer

[lime mauve]

Then he starts spinning through the heretics like a Diablo barbarian

[dense solstice]

The skitarii to the right of the guy in the center

Is just holding the fucking sword

WHILE ITS STILL POWERED ON

[icy reef]

What's the point of transhumanism if I CAN'T give myself digitigrade legs

[unique lagoon]

i imagine i'll see a bunch of 58008 on the mourningstar, like when Arbites launched and there generally was Dreddpocalypse

[silk arrow]

Transonic sword right?

[dense solstice]

YEAH

my bad for caps

Go back and look

[unique lagoon]

aura farming protocols

[dense solstice]

He’s free balling that sword while it’s still on

[silk arrow]

I’m hoping it’ll feel like a devil claw with rending

[lime mauve]

Do kids still use calculators with LCD displays?

Do kids still do math?

[jagged marten]

No joke skitarii having access to relic blade would be insane

[silk arrow]

Like a devil claw that just fucks up armored units

[unique lagoon]

i'll ask grok

[silk arrow]

The sad part is that ad mech have an awesome power weapons. But since they’re typically seen on tech priests idk if we’d ever get them.

[dense solstice]

Give it time

[silk arrow]

Are transonic weapons even considered to be power weapons or are they energy weapons?

[dense solstice]

Arby got a new weapon mark

Or is getting one

So there’s hope

[silk arrow]

That’s really good to hear

[dense solstice]

@jagged marten I’m still holding on to Skitarii getting rad grenades

Also

No ever told me if radium rifles are heavy weapons

[silk arrow]

Still looking out for veterans 5th melee weapon (2 ranged weapons btw) in the power fist 👊🏽

[dense solstice]

We dead ass could get a scum situation

Where the radium rifle is our blitz

Like how they have a rocket launcher

[silk arrow]

So goofy to have irradiated weapons on the morning star and next to your fkin team mates

[mellow storm]

Wait what? Where'd this come from?

[dense solstice]

It wouldn’t be out of possibility

[dense solstice]

@jagged marten

Do you have the screenshot of the new Arby maul

[silk arrow]

Seeing how much nurgle goop the average acolyte swallows it’s not a stretch I guess

[unique lagoon]

blitz where you upset the heretics' weapons' machine spirits and disarm them

[lilac prawn]

nahhh cause thats the vanguards main gun its like an AR but for rads

[jagged marten]

The instagram post of arbites shows him using the shield but alongside the base maul

[mellow storm]

Huh

[silk arrow]

I mean hopefully we see the rad rifle it’s way too classic

[lilac prawn]

Doesnt already have maul and shield? Or do you mean new variant?

[lime mauve]

Could always go the ogryn route with them—8 ft cube of muscle armed with automatic grenade launcher is only on the same approximate level as a spicy Guardsman with a regular lasgun, so a Skitarii with 300 augmentations and a Turbo Fuck Yourself Gun is only around the same power too

[silk arrow]

Some of the first stuff I remember reading about Skitarri was their rad weaponry

[jagged marten]

https://www.kkinstagram.com/p/DXucYKrjhxU/?igsh=MWduc3Q2cnFuNHJ3NA==

[lilac prawn]

Oh you mean their arbites shock maul

I was like standard maul?? Wtf is that

[silk arrow]

Oh yeah no doubt, I’ve been trying to lower people’s power scaling for a minute. Everything in Warhammer lore is op everything on table top tries to be somewhat “balanced”

It’s a video game not a black library book right

Needs to work

[lilac prawn]

Everyone is the best because they say so

Is how I go about it

[silk arrow]

meanwhile psyker tearing a hole into the warp summoning a bloodthirster

[jagged marten]

now what fatshark should do is after skitarii release cross class weapons

[lime mauve]

Everything on tabletop tries to be somewhat balanced but they use points costs to do it, one guardsman is on nowhere near the same level as one ogryn, and they're not supposed to be

[jagged marten]

shock lance for arbites scum

catachan dueling glaive for vet and scum

[lilac prawn]

We're 3 regular dudes + Ogryn killing hundreds of thousands of undead, traitor guard, cultists, and demons. This is a black library book

[jagged marten]

chainglaive for zealot and scum

heavy stubber shared between vet arbites and scum

like we are missing polearms hard

[twin oxide]

I mean everything in Black Library books are practically up to whatever the author wants it to be

[lilac prawn]

My guy just wants to live his knight fantasy in darktide

[twin oxide]

A psyker who is a telekine and catches bullets while barely even trying somehow getting shot and killed

[jagged marten]

they could no joke make the Transuranic Arquebus as an ability

[lilac prawn]

We need a new psyker class that would be pretty baller

[dense solstice]

A what

[jagged marten]

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Transuranic_Arquebus

[twin oxide]

More infern staff buffs!!!!!!!!! More soulblaze buffs!!!!!

[lilac prawn]

my fucking reaction too

[jagged marten]

anti tank rifle that shoots a round of depleted uranium

[silk arrow]

We’re considering rpg right so not just one table top ruleset but any where there’s comparable stats and abilities. The careers n such are just straight pulled from rogue trader, dark heresy, wrath and glory alongside standard 40k

[dense solstice]

People are still waiting on a proper summoner class like necromancer sienna

[twin oxide]

It is too difficult to hold right click and then press left click!!!

[lilac prawn]

oh its that fucking dummy long hunting rifle

This thing is dummy long

[twin oxide]

The damn monopod

[silk arrow]

Litterally, this is what obstructs people’s expectations in scaling when we talk about various factions and entities coming to darktide

[jagged marten]

no joke have it be a static ability that makes you pull out the arquebus and aim with it

[lilac prawn]

Fucking muskets and cannons boys

[jagged marten]

cant move or anything

[mellow gull]

cant wait for someone to use it and immediately get overheaded

[lime mauve]

Ogryn also some with severe downsides that apply to RPGs but not to this game (like being really dumb, and being too big to fit into human-scale hatches and such)

[silk arrow]

100% this is not what these characters are scaled to do in standard 40k table top. More similar to inquisitor martyrdom than anything else lowkey

[twin oxide]

Even within BL books there are literally regular dudes who are equipped with relatively normal gear and constantly come out on top in firefights

[stark isle]

I mean we are named characters

[twin oxide]

Harlon Nayl is just a fucking guy

[silk arrow]

Also if you run tables on a space marine versus psyker, Ogryn bull, veteran, and a cleric they tend to die. Even several of them versus that

[twin oxide]

With a gun

[lilac prawn]

lol we named our characters

[jagged marten]

https://klipy.com/gifs/the-boys-home-lander

the named characters are the cover ones

[twin oxide]

One of them is a servitor now

[silk arrow]

We need polearms and dual wielding yesterday

[dense solstice]

The vet’s name is Arlo

I forgot the other 3

[light hornet]

True. All our characters are canon.

[jagged marten]

each male and female personality has a canon character designated to them

we just play as a strike team

[unique lagoon]

it's true that you just kill like 5 Lords of Change and like 3 Great Unclean Ones in Boltgun, as a Firstborn Space Marine, yeah a Sternguard Veteran, but still
those are technically primarchs feat

[stark isle]

Nah every reject is canon

[mellow gull]

does that mean theres a psyker in 40k who loves brainbursting themselves next to enemies just for the rush

[light hornet]

Yes.

[unique lagoon]

we just be doing shit in 40k games

[lilac prawn]

Malum Caedo is literally him

[twin oxide]

The lady using the Ironhelm has been turned into a shell of her former self, much like the weapon she carries
||oh boy, an excuse to bitch about my favorite weapons again ||

[lilac prawn]

Hes the guy

[lime mauve]

Dickot and Cockerill

[dense solstice]

The continuity of your team surviving bullshit is mentioned every now and then during missions

[unique lagoon]

Nyra Veyrath is about to be Her once Boltgun 2 drops and we kill every Greater Daemons of every Chaos Gods

[jagged marten]

i like to think boltgun is the way it is because those daemons manifested in realspace

so theyre weaker than normal

[lilac prawn]

I do love the voice lines with wolfer getting frustated by his vox teams relaying bullshit info

[dense solstice]

ITS JUST 4 OF THEM!!!!!!

4!!!!!!

[lilac prawn]

Theyre on a demon world

[jagged marten]

graia isnt a daemon world

[unique lagoon]

nah, Boltgun is just exaggerated for the epicness , and gameplay, of it

[lilac prawn]

I thought i was now

[dense solstice]

I love how in carnival we got gassed up by wolfer’s people saying they’re fighting a whole battalion of soldiers

[lilac prawn]

Got slurped by heretics and choas

[dense solstice]

Meanwhile

It’s just 4 people

[twin oxide]

WHAT DO YOU MEAN THE STRIKE TEAM IS STILL ALIVE

[lilac prawn]

Every stealth mission we start off sneaking for 5 seconds than fighting for our lives

[jagged marten]

the stealth mission involving 2 loud as fuck breaching charges

[dense solstice]

I think the funniest bit is how we killed wolfer’s lieutenants

The same two who were marking strike teams left and right

Then said

Nah fuck yall

And sent one of their souls to the aether when they tried to revive him

[lime mauve]

Unironically some of the best (or at least, most fun) 40k novels are set on daemon worlds or are daemon-world-adjacent

Hammer of Daemons and Daemon World are glorious 80s metal album covers in novel form, and most Dark Coil novels are set on spooky planets where the veil between the Warp and realspace is thinner than normal

[lilac prawn]

oh cool we get another dual melee weapon

[unique lagoon]

Wolfer considering just giving himself up cuz' every day he gets 10 reports of 500 troops being killed, alongside 3 plague ogryns, 2 BoN, 5 chaos spawns and 2 daemonhosts

[dense solstice]

To be fair

Story wise

He’s fucked

[unique lagoon]

sure is

[dense solstice]

The cult abandoned him

And we are actively hunting him

All that’s missing now is a wolfer boss fight to close his story arc

[unique lagoon]

sorry if he's your brother Zola
he's a traitor and a heretic

[lime mauve]

Wolfer dies offscreen in 2029

[unique lagoon]

going off the story they've added and somewhat managed to logically piece all that shit together, it's rather insane the amount of work the warband did put out
who would've thought that sending 4 crackheads was this effective

[dense solstice]

I wish I kept tabs on lore

But canonically

The strike team is like

Actually 6 or 8 people

[silk arrow]

defiantly

[unique lagoon]

considering we do hear about other strike teams failing, nah

[dense solstice]

It’s just adding that many players in a mission would absolutely turn missions into a joke

Imagine 2 vets 2 zealots 2 psykers and 2 Arby

Same difficulty

Same mobs

[unique lagoon]

joplaysgames does have a series of video on darktide's lore, it's actually pretty funny how much shit is going on, and how little clue we have of anything going on

[dense solstice]

It would be cool though to have a raid type mission where it’s two split teams of 4 that meet up in the end to fight a boss

[lilac prawn]

We (varlets) are just pawns in a bigger game

[unique lagoon]

Hadron typed this

[lime mauve]

How many rejects are shown in the intro cutscene again? Can't be more than a few dozen to begin with, and of course they got attrited down really quickly

(It's hilarious to imagine hundreds of rejects being herded into the room for Grendyl to repeat the same speech as they are rotated through)

[dense solstice]

I wish the devs would expand on the whole Mortis operative story

Cause technically the trials are like an initiation test to become one of Grendy’s operatives

[lilac prawn]

Thought it was all just training but in our brain with other peoples memories leaked in

[dense solstice]

Nah

Turn the subtitles on

[unique lagoon]

Sefoni creates all of that shit and some of the lil secrets she has access to leak in

[dense solstice]

Sefoni mentions the transition into Mortis operatives

[unique lagoon]

although the game over screen suggest we literally die to the trials if it's failed

[dense solstice]

Via the trials

[lime mauve]

Or the rejects at the back of the room wondering what's happening because they can't hear, like at the start of Life of Brian

[silk arrow]

unfortunately the narrative design team dropped the ball a bit relative to vermintide 2. You can tell it aint exactly the same people working on it.

[lime mauve]

"What did he say? I am a quarrier?"

[dense solstice]

My biggest guess is they haven’t expanded on the Mortis operatives story arc is because

They don’t know how to properly introduce us to grend

And have him as a normal mission handler

[silk arrow]

ah yes add all the narrative between several obscure game modes that divide the small player based and are now not played by the base

[unique lagoon]

but really, lore-wise, it's Zola who suggested recruited convicts en masse
we're actually very numerous, because we are canon-fodder, replaceable
each team that fails is just made up of 4 crackheads that will be replaced by 4 more teams

[silk arrow]

surely we all read the obscure blog post that told us the lore

[lilac prawn]

Rannick is very elusive and dodgy when it comes to grendyl

[lime mauve]

Let's all laugh
At a company
That never learns anything
Tee Hee Hee

[unique lagoon]

Strike team. Violence, please. Now.

[silk arrow]

man they had it all with vermintide 2

imgaine that game, but 40k, keeping darktide game mechanics and we have perfect hammer

[unique lagoon]

including the wack alternative gamemods
Chaos Wastes aside

[marble knoll]

because he doesn't know shit about grendyl either lol

[silk arrow]

yeah that seems to be something they should of learned from

[unique lagoon]

man, 40k Chaos Wastes would be perfect

[olive yew]

Rannick got shoved into the role of doing his bosses job

[silk arrow]

chaos wastes being the main played alt game mode

only thing we really could of needed

[jagged marten]

They can rework expeditions into chaos wastes

[silk arrow]

how much effort was pumped into weaves, last stand, deeds, twitch rivals, mortis trials, expeditions, etc and its all like eh I guess rather play cata or chaos wastes yk

resources resources

[lime mauve]

I totally forgot about deeds

How would you like your mission mutators to be on a random loot drop system

[uncut cloak]

eh twitch integration is fine

[silk arrow]

it was amazing and peak

[unique lagoon]

Expeditions are cool, but they just really feel pointless
Mortis Trials are kinda fun cuz wack builds like Ogryns infinite healing self-repeating Frags
Havoc is for the 1%

all around, we really just want more story missions
and damn, different places in the hive to go

[silk arrow]

some of the hardest content ever in a tide game was cata rivals

insane

[uncut cloak]

i really don't get expeditions

[silk arrow]

its truly a shame

[unique lagoon]

i get them, but we just get nothing out of them

[uncut cloak]

i mean, i don't get why they thought it was going to be a success

[jagged marten]

Isnt it fortunes of war/weaves

[lime mauve]

Twitch was fine, deeds were dumb as fuck

[jagged marten]

I know ainz couldnt clear fortunes past 140

[unique lagoon]

like what we loot from them is just to do more of them???

[uncut cloak]

even ignoring rewards and such

[silk arrow]

yeah that shit is nutso once your past 60 for me lmfao

[uncut cloak]

it's a game mode where you are encouraged to not fight

and do shitty minigames

[sly aurora]

so have we heard anything new on the class?

[unique lagoon]

define new

[sly aurora]

not from the dev talk or trailer

[jagged marten]

Nothing yet

[unique lagoon]

i guess what quickpaw said about the voices

[jagged marten]

Well get devblogs soon

[unique lagoon]

yup

looking forward to those

[sly aurora]

bet

[jagged marten]

Most likely on monday

[marble knoll]

Oh neat, lore blurbs for the event progress

[silk arrow]

I got a theory expeditions was implemented as a content dump/farm. Ridicously grindy and long winded for little replayablitiy. Aka here is something for the dedicated grumbling fans to chew on like well done steak until real scaleable content is brought in

[jagged marten]

Hmm

So we excel in infiltration missions

[marble knoll]

Can see it at melk

[unique lagoon]

i mean, 0 witnesses

[jagged marten]

I guess bursting in and killing like 3k enemies is infiltrating

[unique lagoon]

true Eversor doctrine

[sly aurora]

im thinking that lore blurb is whats progressing us to the alpha primus coming to the fray

[silk arrow]

pretty sure it was ment to be a content soak akin to early darktide where you have to kill 1000 million groaners to get a title

people will go for it

[sly aurora]

cus of how it says "regular skitarii"

[silk arrow]

and it will take dozens of hours to farm all the achievements

[uncut cloak]

i mean, they called it the "biggest content patch yet"

while in reality it's pure garbo

[silk arrow]

hype to sell a content farm

[sly aurora]

me over here just trying to get the fancy hound skin for my arbite

[lime mauve]

Early darktide's gear system was supposed to be that but everyone rightly hated it

[silk arrow]

look hamster wheel go run rejects

[woeful fractal]

What do you guys think or hope the Skitarii personalities will be

[silk arrow]

meanwhile theyre working on more skins dlc classes

etc

[uncut cloak]

i'm also a bit disappointed with the beta testers here that didn't raise any critic to that, at least in chat, before it released, but whatever

[sly aurora]

i mean im sure we will get one thats like "The calculating" but i kinda want one that shows a lot humor in a skitarii way

[lilac prawn]

Robot, human robot, and sarcastic robot

[jagged marten]

https://youtube.com/shorts/YEH87OsGTUA?is=GIBGTI3cbe8keEsw

[silk arrow]

they are not reliable for that as theyre a bias they have working with fat shark

[lime mauve]

Speaking of gear

Now that AdMech is here and we have rediscovered Moebian Steel will we finally be able to get weapon stats above 80%

[unique lagoon]

played the beta, but it didn't jump at you how bad the grind for gear was when you're just leveling up

[jagged marten]

https://youtu.be/3pvnxOn5LUE?is=7t1BPAJdVd2bZnV9

[uncut cloak]

surely the fact it was just a vapid mode would

[marble knoll]

no shit sherlock

[lilac prawn]

Mmm love the first mechanicus game

[silk arrow]

if players want something they gotta rally threated to review bomb and outcry the testers are mainly for balancing stuff i feel

[jagged marten]

https://youtu.be/sIbKYb1OALI?is=M9k25Ra5BP__uI2I

[lilac prawn]

I got the new one and its different

[lime mauve]

Everyone took them to task for equipment not showing numbers in beta, but that was like 6 weeks before release and no major changes to the system would have been possible even if they wanted to

[jagged marten]

I want a personality thats completely incomprehensable

[uncut cloak]

i mean beta testers to the expeditions update

[sly aurora]

hey in my defense im just learning we had the lore blurbs today i aint truely played since arbites first dropped

[silk arrow]

I feel like most of the testers I know are just playin 40s and playin aurics with homies

[unique lagoon]

oh, then i didn't beta test expeditions

[lilac prawn]

I remember when the trench map came out with hive scum, Hadron was like "I cant believe people think we should bring the noble skitarii here smh"

[silk arrow]

it would be cool to talk to people who tested expeditons and hear what theyre critiques were

[uncut cloak]

the opposite

she was saying she asked Grendyll to call the skitarii but he refused

[woeful fractal]

I imagine we'll get a "devoted" voice like that

[marble knoll]

a lot of the playtesters did raise concerns over expeditions

they've said as much here

[woeful fractal]

We also get different voice mods for the Skitarii

[lilac prawn]

Ahhhh

[silk arrow]

im still surpirsed were getting them over some rag tag rowdy tech priests

[lime mauve]

Ah

Well, probably a similar situation of being told the thing needs major improvement but having no time before the deadline to make major changes

[lilac prawn]

Tech priests are more valuable than skitarii

[uncut cloak]

did they say that before or after it released

because i remember some hyping it up in chat

[jagged marten]

cole was VERY unhappy with expeditions

[lilac prawn]

Skitarii are just cyborg foot soldiers than can be rebuilt and replaced easily

[marble knoll]

fym "before or after"

they legit can't tell us before embargo goes up

[uncut cloak]

i mean, they did tell us stuff, the embargo i believe wasn't active all the way until release

[silk arrow]

if I had a guess theres probably tons and tons of tech priest just bopping around looking for these type of opprunties versus the regimented highly organized fighting force of the ad mech. akin to getting astra militarum support or arbiter support

[marble knoll]

local discord user does not comprehend what NDA is

[silk arrow]

which just seemed like a lot

[sly aurora]

a tech acolyte (the ones who become tech priests) are usually like slightly more vauble over a skitarii for reference

[uncut cloak]

you literally ignored what i said, Catt

[lime mauve]

Grendyl might not have called them but Archmagos Whoever might have sent them anyway, I would imagine the local AdMech have been screaming for help since the Moebian regiments were revealed as traitors. Also Hadron might have "accidentally" let slip that True Moebian Steel has been rediscovered, which would provide more incentive for outside AdMech to assist

[silk arrow]

no thats what im curious about idk what they were sayin

[uncut cloak]

yeah from what i understand, they came themselves without asking

[lilac prawn]

Those are explorators, tech priests who roam the galaxy to search for STCs. But they are very small group of essentially archeologists

[silk arrow]

yup

[sly aurora]

theres litterally part of their whole thing that the skitarii will risk whole regigments of themselves to keep a tech priest alive

[lunar flint]

The new Skitarii autonomous agent could be the 40k version of this: https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/File:VoraxRobot.jpg.

[lilac prawn]

Atoma is a forge world so it tracks

[jagged marten]

Which ones?

[uncut cloak]

the skitarii i mean

[lunar flint]

Hive world, not forge world.

[uncut cloak]

like, they were sent without grendill's authorization

[silk arrow]

yup i linked something earlier about the explorator fleets, which again still in my head make more sense considering the cycotrix maledectum

[lilac prawn]

huh man my brain sucks at midnight

[jagged marten]

Funnily enough hank said the localization leak was on 4chan for 2 weeks before going on the reddit

[silk arrow]

exactly and isnt there a manufactorum in the solar system too?

[jagged marten]

https://tenor.com/view/king-of-the-hill-gibberish-gif-15531357

[silk arrow]

its a hive world not a forge world yeah

[lilac prawn]

Has to be since they ship out the moebian steel to other planets in the system

im reading the wiki article now so Icant be wrong no more

[silk arrow]

theres another planet that I think does most of the techie stuff its not atoma

atoma is a hive planet

yeah lets see here. This is also more reasoning to why i predicted tech priest along with hive scum n arbiter sister of battle assassin etc

that planet was active and had tech priests on it

gotta find it

[lilac prawn]

SoB assassin? You mean like a death cult assassin?

[silk arrow]

just an simple imperial assassin I can link you the dark heresy career paths its the same level as veteran psyker cleric etc

[lilac prawn]

Feel like death cult assassin would be pretty unlikely since zealot and hive scum fill out glass cannon melee assassin

[silk arrow]

death cult is represented through zealot sort of

[lilac prawn]

Fuck it add kroot

[silk arrow]

"trained by death cult"

[uncut cloak]

please god don't add a third stealth ability

[silk arrow]

fuck it add kroot is right

[lilac prawn]

ok its bed time

[uncut cloak]

How about a commissar class that has friendly fire enabled

[mellow gull]

dont worry the class will only have two different stealth abilities

[lilac prawn]

Aint gonna lie skitarri prolly gonna have stealth

[silk arrow]

last two classes being aledari ranger and kroot is like very crowd pleasing and what ever they could go for it and just say fuck it

[lilac prawn]

These fuckers be sneaking in the dunes of mars

[lunar flint]

Yeah the Skitarii have infiltration specialists with cloaking tech.

[lime mauve]

The Moebian Domain is a region of space that IIRC was its own little space empire before joining the Imperium and it retains a degree of self-governance (like a typical Sector in the wider Imperium), most of the character origin worlds are different planets in the Moebian Domain and one (Branx Magna, where e.g. our Mastery weapon skins come from) is a Forge World

[uncut cloak]

i suppose it would at least make vet's shitty stealth look even worse

so maybe i'm for it

[heavy citrus]

nah they need to take a break from classes
3 in a year is nuts

fix yo game fatfish

give the og 4 some love with gear

ya know

[silk arrow]

thank you! Yeah i was gonna mention all of the lore is in game when making character, the only one I dont think thats from mobian domain is cadians

[silk arrow]

highly agree with this, I belive final class number will be total of 10

[jagged marten]

Let me show you something

[silk arrow]

my money is on Sister of Battle and Alderi Ranger being the next ones

[wind latch]

I think 8 would be a good stopping point for a while. Double the original classes

[wind latch]

That would allow maximum interchangeability for teams

[lilac prawn]

Yea i know

[silk arrow]

if you think about vermintide 2 then 10 would be a fair final number of careers

[lunar flint]

Or Harlequin.

[honest magnet]

adeptus sororitas when

[jagged marten]

Never ever LMAO

[lilac prawn]

Ive tried starting a admech army and than dropped it

[lilac prawn]

NO CLOWNS

[lime mauve]

Sister of Battle is too close to Zealot, and any kind of xenos mercenary might be a stretch too far

[wind latch]

I don’t know, don’t Sororitas get Power armor and all?

[jagged marten]

Harlequins are like the elites of the elites of aeldari

[lilac prawn]

human power armor

[jagged marten]

Harlequins kill custodes

[silk arrow]

the power scaling just goes up with harlequins they are very powerufl

[lunar flint]

Not all. Some are nekked penal troops. Noobs also don't get armor (yet).

[silk arrow]

id expect them to be the only class in game representing power armor

[honest magnet]

we already goes from reject to admech, i can still hope

[lilac prawn]

GW bring back the loin cloth repentia!

[silk arrow]

yeah the dyamic between power armor, no armor, and medium armor could be a great theme for sister of battle alongside miracles

and fire!

[lilac prawn]

https://giphy.com/gifs/ke9H7DXd11glDfoA7U

[uncut cloak]

Skitarii are still relatively close to arbites

[lime mauve]

Harlequins ran circles around Custodes who are supposed to be approaching the weaker Primarchs in combat ability, but who tf knows honestly

[silk arrow]

theyre just techno astra militarum

[uncut cloak]

if you mean they are like the common foot soldier in the imperial army, not really

[lunar flint]

They used to be just guardsmen in older editions.

[uncut cloak]

more like kaisrkin i think

[silk arrow]

youve played rogue trader right?

[lime mauve]

Not the video game

[lilac prawn]

I like the vidya game

[uncut cloak]

in roguetrader you still only recruit 2 xenos

[jagged marten]

The truly terrifying ones are troup masters

[silk arrow]

and theres a sister of battle that will fight with all of them

[uncut cloak]

one is always close to getting arrested, the other gets shot in the face by 90% of the players

i mean, the sister of battle is among peers in roguetrader

[silk arrow]

just remeber nothing is higher than the inquistors will and a sister of battle can test that or fall in line, I think you can decide what is more likely here

[jagged marten]

Harlequin solitairs will chew custodes alive

[lunar flint]

Zealot is sort of a budget Sister/Death Cult Assassin/Preacher depending on talent tree.

[jagged marten]

They are nigh unreachable in combat prowess

[silk arrow]

thank you this is an accurate depiction. Simple as, imperial cultist murder hobo

clan cawdor meets paladin

cleric preacher

aint a sister of battle right

different team same home city

[lunar flint]

Preacher would be the chaplain in guard squads.

[silk arrow]

thats what they are called in darktide zealot preacher right

https://www.playdarktide.com/news/class-spotlight-zealot-preacher

[uncut cloak]

little sisters of battle

[lunar flint]

Yeah but it's based off the old https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/File:PreacherNew.jpg. You could attach them to Guardsmen squads.

[silk arrow]

this is the dark heresy career path for clerics

you can see darktides ode to it via zealot preacher

[uncut cloak]

so are zealots like

volunteers that eventually join the inquisition, maybe

[lilac prawn]

They could be or just people on a pilgrimage

[uncut cloak]

yeah so they are not like

hired by the inquisition yet, just hobos going around

[silk arrow]

they are litterally imperial cultists that bite, shank, burn, and yell their way up the totem pole maybe becoming a priest eventually but starting off from any walk of life could be a bum could be a noble

[lunar flint]

Depends on talent tree. Left side is more like the Preacher in that image, or a Sister Repentia. Middle is a budget Sister, complete with healing and miracles. Right is the Death Cult Assassin.

[uncut cloak]

i think a noble wouldn't start as a zealot

[silk arrow]

noble likely gets into the adeptus ministorum and like by nepotism could enter in as a priest or sum

[uncut cloak]

yeah that's what i am saying

[lime mauve]

Many of the Zealot cosmetics imply that a lot of them are former Guardsmen who found the Emperor

[silk arrow]

think of it like a slayer oath situation

[uncut cloak]

could be

[lime mauve]

Not even necessarily priests who were already ordained before being attached to the Guard either

[silk arrow]

like a noble house fcuks up sends all of its first born sons n daughters as tribute to the ministorum, granted political assylum, amnesty, etc

[sterile tendon]

why skitarii deluxe so 🐙

[silk arrow]

yep

[silk arrow]

100%

[lunar flint]

IRL noble houses first son inherits the estate, second joins the church, third enlists, fourth onwards are spares.

[silk arrow]

yeah pawning them off for politial power

pretty classic

4th one becomes a underhive human sports hunter

[lunar flint]

Depends on whether those suits are available. In older editions all noble houses had access, now it's specifically the ruling house of Necromunda.

[silk arrow]

that art work is some of the most terrfying shit

those guys power suits make sister of battle look like a teletubby

[lunar flint]

Due to the trainwreck that is the Necromunda ruleset, it's hilariously easy to deal with them using web or fire.

But you have to catch them first.

[silk arrow]

6th thot gay son who couldnt make it work in schola progenium coming to ruin your day after wage slaving at the Wardonalds

shoulda stayed home kickin it with my mutant rat smoking elo sticks

[heavy citrus]

adam smasher looking mf

[silk arrow]

underhive is tuff work man

[heavy citrus]

what is this mf even called

sick design

[lunar flint]

The Orrus Spyrer.

[dense solstice]

Adominus Smashonian

[silk arrow]

this guy is a noble house freak off man hunter

hunts poors for fun

its like the final boss of buisness suit who beats up homeless for fun

[olive yew]

So they’ll fit right in with the rejects

[lunar flint]

On the important Hive World of Necromunda, the ruling house has these advanced suits. Promising sons and daughters wear them and go down to the lower levels to hunt and kill the heavily armed gangers (hive scum) living there.

[silk arrow]

we got the hive scum people dont think about the writing behind them. They are fully augmented, rippling with illcit tech & bioenhancments. They are probably the closest thing to a servitised soilders we'll get besides adeptus mechanicus character

[lunar flint]

The suits will record kills and unlock new upgrades. They can also self-repair and keep the wearer alive.

There are 4 primary designs and the Orrus is the heavy one.

Power fists or power talons on each arm, with wrist-mounted bolt launchers.

[silk arrow]

the type of thing where you realize that warhammer is the complete opposite of some hegemonic iconoclast setting with humans. They will do anything and everything to achieve power. Makes them very fun in setting, shout out human race lol

[lunar flint]

Carapace armor that can thicken to artificer power armor level and a forcefield.

[silk arrow]

closest youre gonna get to these is some strange weirdo tech priests power armor or some illegal power armor with xeno tech worn by a inquisitor i think

[serene cargo]

Radium carbine tomorrow?

[lunar flint]

However, the rules have severe oversights that make them vulnerable to a lot of silly things. They are expensive, yet have to buy things like respirators and photovisors separately. This means these advanced killing machines are vulnerable to tear gas, flashbangs, tasers, and being set on fire.

[olive yew]

Lorewise we just can’t

[dense solstice]

Reminds me of nobles in Kenshi

[olive yew]

They emit so much radiation that only Skitarii are surviving

[silk arrow]

let that thing get surrounded by a couple of hungry cawdor freaks

or by some house goliath mfs

I maxxed out my hive scum height to imitate growth serum gangers lol

[lunar flint]

Goliath is perhaps not as bad as Cawdor because the latter get all sorts of flame weapons. Flames will shut down any Spyrer, because they can't get hazard suits.

[silk arrow]

yet another reason im surpirsed they took skitarri over tech priest lol

[dense solstice]

The funny wires running in and out oft hive scum’s arm and back on most cosmetics

Even the base ones

But it makes sense

They’re for the most part gang lieutenants

[silk arrow]

corsing through their spines as they run faster than zealot pumping drugs into their tubes

[dense solstice]

Enough drugs to kill a modern elephant 20 times over

And our guy is just slamming them sum bitches every 20 seconds

[silk arrow]

for sure got some cardio augments lmfao that heart must have plastic and metal bits

[dense solstice]

100% the cooldown reduction path on the stimm tree is some fucking juiced form of adrenaline

And the toughness path is some form of morphine or painkiller

[lunar flint]

Most important people in 40k have metal bits in them. Played Battlefleet Gothic (the TT versions)? The rulebook has illustrations of all the Imperial Navy senior leadership. Every single one has at least a bionic eye. Many are more than 50% cyborg.

[dense solstice]

Brother out here mixing morphine and adrenaline

[silk arrow]

insane work, its very fun to actually realize the characters from mechanics to narrative. It unveils some very juicy and fun roleplaying bits. The servitor look is A1

[dense solstice]

More than likely the internal cybernetics have some life extending chemicals in there aswell

[silk arrow]

metal skull, false spine, dermal implants exploding out the arms, full of illegal stimulants, racing around the map then getting one shot and catatonic when high crashes

[jagged marten]

btw the new rogue trader dlc will have augments

like cybernetic limbs etc etc

[dense solstice]

You basically explained Scum’s rampage ability

[jagged marten]

abelard's ocular eye and knee implant will be seen as augments btw!

[dense solstice]

A burst of adrenaline followed by a brief crash

[silk arrow]

this is great news as cybernetics was a core mechanic in ttrpg sources

[lunar flint]

A lot are replacements for injuries in the line of duty (like RL Nelson losing one of everything).

[jagged marten]

i wonder how pasqal will interact with it

he has reject the flesh

[dense solstice]

I wouldn’t doubt that, but some one vet’s eye augments also press the idea that

Some people willing augment themselves for combat advantages aswell

Without injury

[jagged marten]

inb4 eogunn has a magnarail lance

[gilded osprey]

some of the cosmetics themselves have augments of sorts

[lunar flint]

That applies to the Mechanicus especially.

[dense solstice]

I wanna read more on them about how they manage to survive being coated in radiation

[lunar flint]

They don't. Radium carbine users just die and are replaced.

Skitarii are elite, but also completely expendable.

[silk arrow]

so this is a fun one, in dark heresy there's a bunch of status tables you get such as Fear & Shock Table, Insanity & Disorders, Corruption & Mutation, Psychic Phenomena & Perils of the Warp. I actually think one of the reasons darktide gets logically ridiculous in terms of enemy and player power scaling is fatshark trying to kind of whisper insanity into the player ear. Recently they spoke about terror points in high level play, perhaps this is them interpreting that.

heres hopes for a cybernetics mechanic for ad mech class

[lunar flint]

The Skitarii in Darktide is supposed to be an upgraded model capable of independent action.

[jagged marten]

The nature of the Skitarii, being enhanced warriors with mechanical limbs and covered in armor, wrapped under their signature robe and cowl, also made us really have to think of the character customization. It is a unique experience compared to the normal process, as you will go through the process of being upgraded to an Alpha Primus. Picking the limbs you want and even being able to use a voice modulation on top of the voice acting! This quickly became one of our favorite things with the class, and it also adds a lot to the customization.

[silk arrow]

they dont, they die horribly and irradated swapping out more and more of their body for augments until theyre tin men and the last organics are irradated past use

historallcaly skitarri have been less than human, which is saying a lot for ad mech

[dense solstice]

[silk arrow]

again some of the newer lore changes this but historically skitarri dont even speak man, like they were drone soilders for mars

[jagged marten]

radium carbines will burn through the armor of the skitarii until it hits flesh and theyre dying from radiation poisoning

[lunar flint]

I could be wrong, but the original lore justification for why Admech didn't release with a transport vehicle was that the Skitarii were supposed to march everywhere.

[sterile tendon]

thats why we got alpha primus!!!!!! 🔥 🔥

they will YAP our ears out like all the other rejects

[silk arrow]

they were suicide death troopers that used scorctched earth policty and were deployed on planets that were like done

skitarri are terrifying

[white blade]

I think you should call them Skittles

[lunar flint]

The hover ducky thing they have now was a much later addition.

[sterile tendon]

skitty

[heavy citrus]

lore changes and devs get creative liberities
ogryns in lore shouldn't be speaking as "Smart" as our ogryns for example

[sterile tendon]

our ogryns are just that good actually

[silk arrow]

best comparission to skitarri is probably death corps of krieg

[lunar flint]

Lore Ogryns can't even reload their guns.

[jagged marten]

darktide ogryns are abnormally smart

[white blade]

Honestly Ogryn buy in large are being portrayed less like they have a mental handicap lately

[sterile tendon]

our ogryns can literally hack things lmao

[silk arrow]

they have similar cold calulating ruthlessness and lack of character in a discplined drone like force

[dense solstice]

It’s safe to say the Skitarii aren’t here to help us specifically but are more of a salvage crew to help scavenge

[jagged marten]

methinks its because of the great rift opening and ogryns evolving overtime

[heavy citrus]

krieg lore is also changed they're not le silent suicidal people anymore

there's much more to them

[lunar flint]

I think people got tired of the "too stupid to live" stereotype.

[dense solstice]

Them helping the inquisiton is just kind of a byproduct of them wanting to salvage shit here

[silk arrow]

again idk how they got green lit before the friendly bumbly tech priest

other than hype for skitarri

but aye were all hype

[dense solstice]

This class has been cooking for over a year

[white blade]

It's also better for marketing I'm ngl

[silk arrow]

skitarri are pretty extreme fighting force

[jagged marten]

it is strange that cogg and the darktide ogryns are the only modern ogryns

[dense solstice]

I’m guessing the lore implications for why they showed up now

[sterile tendon]

i mean we'll c how hadron convinced grendyl

[dense solstice]

Is just kinda convenient

[jagged marten]

there hasnt been a new ogryn model for tabletop\

[sterile tendon]

or maybe she just d id it secretly

[dense solstice]

I feel like it’s less that

It’s more like

Hadron found something

And told the admech

[heavy citrus]

they should just give them a cutscene like the arbeetus where they show up and aura farm

[wet ginkgo]

because GW hates using their IP

[jagged marten]

rannick made an alliance with the hive scum im certain that wasnt grendyl's idea

[dense solstice]

“Ooh I found a shiny thing”

[wet ginkgo]

oops wrong reply

[white blade]

Cassia exists too

[sterile tendon]

they'll aura farm more than arbys

[dense solstice]

And the rest of the admech are scrambling to get the rest

[wet ginkgo]

It was rannick own idea to bring the scum to the ship

[jagged marten]

ogryn shaped navigator

[wet ginkgo]

Grendyl has agreed and permitted

[sterile tendon]

gw defo wants more ogryns nowadays

cause people LOVE the dt ogryns

[dense solstice]

Of course he has

[silk arrow]

yeah they got fking domesticated bro they used to be 10 ft tall rock eating short bus toddlers with anger issues, now they are articulate 8 ft tall funny lover boys

[dense solstice]

Grendyl will agree to nearly anyone willing to die for the inquisition on atoma

[silk arrow]

not mad but the grimdark has changed in the past 15 years

[jagged marten]

i wouldnt say lover boys

[sterile tendon]

the woke got to the ogryns now they speaking in street lingo and hacking minigames

[jagged marten]

more endearingly ignorant

[wet ginkgo]

And this time it is most likely Hadron contacting Grendyl about the recent expeditions and tech remnants to bring skitarii to the war

[dense solstice]

I’m just saying lore wise

[silk arrow]

lmfao this is bad but true

[dense solstice]

The admech wouldn’t be here if there wasn’t shit for them to snatch

[jagged marten]

imagine we find an STC in the wastes

[wet ginkgo]

STC?

[lunar flint]

Probably an improvement, though. The old Ogryns were incredibly dumb.

[jagged marten]

gears dont tell me you dont know what an stc is

[wet ginkgo]

i am stupid

[dense solstice]

And the whole upgrading your Skitarii to a alpha primus

[jagged marten]

sigh

[dense solstice]

Feeds into this idea

[sterile tendon]

its definitely a massive improvement

[heavy citrus]

are ogryns in lore behaving like ours lmao i dont follow that

[wet ginkgo]

I also woke up with such a mess on my discord messages

[jagged marten]

an STC is basically a blueprint for dark age technology

[wet ginkgo]

damn over 100 DMs

[jagged marten]

or can be a fabricator

[dense solstice]

Popular furry

Look at him

[jagged marten]

oh damn slide some of them baddies my way

[wet ginkgo]

i rather kill myself if i ever became a popufur

thats an insult

[silk arrow]

are you sure about that sweetheart

[sterile tendon]

skitarii is calling

[dense solstice]

Yam likes furries

Who knew

[jagged marten]

fuh nah!

[abstract aurora]

What we all gonna call our skulls(if we can)

[jagged marten]

i like alternative baddies

[sterile tendon]

jerma

[dense solstice]

Cobbleton

[wet ginkgo]

How would you like some fur baddies?

[jagged marten]

yo mama

[wet ginkgo]

Come to vrchat

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/HI3RlCpakAAtkKH.webp

[sterile tendon]

ur scary

[wet ginkgo]

[jagged marten]

my skull will be named apollo

[sterile tendon]

a hell naw

[abstract aurora]

I want to strangle you

[white blade]

Yorick maybe

[sterile tendon]

apollo got some big nerfs

[silk arrow]

im really really really curious what was important enough to send a battalion of skitarri in versus just getting the local nerd with a plasma cannon

[dense solstice]

Judging from how people reacted to Darktide ogryns

[lunar flint]

A lot of the STC actually focus on "simple" survival tools. The bespoke stuff is even crazier.

[dense solstice]

I feel like the answer is no

[jagged marten]

can you please send me a gif of homelander and the black dude watching the deep walk in dissapointed

[heavy citrus]

darktide ogryns is prolly just creative liberities

[jagged marten]

i need it for reaction purposes

[dense solstice]

I dead ass think it’s tied to skitarii progression

[heavy citrus]

u cant just have a class be unable to do objectives

[silk arrow]

like dude with plamsa pistol and cog axe working on the railroad reqesitioned to fight by a high ranking tech priest versus mars legion of drone soldiers

[heavy citrus]

and the dialogue is heavily built on banter so lets make them say funny shiii

[dense solstice]

Imagine some random admech group messaging the others like

Hey guys

[silk arrow]

I think you are so fkin right and they deserve this

[lunar flint]

They're vat-grown, not nat-born, so that's possibly the excuse.

[dense solstice]

We can make your murder soldiers even more murdery

[silk arrow]

theyre newer and deserve this spotlight

[dense solstice]

We have to see tho

Cause the way the post worded it

We’re coming to atoma as regular veteran skits

But we over time upgrade

[wet ginkgo]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/HI3j5LiWQAA8zlp.webp

This one?

[dense solstice]

Like how Titus got turned into a primaris marine

[jagged marten]

DANKE

[dense solstice]

We’ll get the same treatment

[lunar flint]

The Admech used to have Terminator bots like https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/File:VoraxRobot.jpg.

[heavy citrus]

im fine with either skibbidtari or priests

both are cool

[silk arrow]

for a while i thought they all had bonechips which woulda made sense, but only like one or two of them do really lmfao and shit is busted

[sterile tendon]

terminator bot is skitty ultimate btw

[dense solstice]

Also didn’t someone mention

We found an abandoned admech facility in the wastes

[sterile tendon]

yeah the post

[heavy citrus]

tbh the only one who's like scary scary smart is the new one
The rest are still pretty stooopid

[jagged marten]

theres also the daemon of the sands

[heavy citrus]

the new ogryn is a fkn wordsmith

[jagged marten]

(which recently got a name)

[sterile tendon]

bodyguard just be goofing around i feel

[jagged marten]

apperantly saint messelina fought the daemon of the sands

[white blade]

Thought he was a carpenter tbh, dude loves nails

[sterile tendon]

gotta ask seer all about the daemon of the sands then

start a whatsapp call with saint messelina

[lunar flint]

Meanest and smartest. The other Ogryn look up to him.

[dense solstice]

Brother was raised by a crime syndicate

[lunar flint]

Might be the legendary Smarticus from Necromunda.

[dense solstice]

The scariest thing is they taught dude to speak in rhymes

[jagged marten]

the heavy ogryn is def like an older ganger type

[wet ginkgo]

He is in fact

[dense solstice]

British

[jagged marten]

almost all personalities are lole

[dense solstice]

He’s aggressively a brexit geezer

Like oi bruv levels of British

[silk arrow]

I think hes the oldest of them? Also think hes from the underworld, so like underhive muscle kinda vibes. Kinda like wise, but again wtf how does the heavy not have a bone chip. It just goes against what so much writing and lore has told us about the ogryn.

[lunar flint]

He can be quite paternalistic towards the other Ogryn personalities.

[white blade]

Bone chip?

[silk arrow]

yeah

[sterile tendon]

atoma just has the most awesomest ogryns

[white blade]

You mean the implant?

[dense solstice]

I mean ogryns are far and few between so yeah

Bro is being more patient

He’s probably not seen many like him before

[silk arrow]

its called a bone chip, hence the title bone head

[sterile tendon]

i kinda doubt that

[white blade]

Yk only one of the Ogryn in game has one right

[sterile tendon]

every mission a hundred lmao

[hushed basin]

Goontarii

[silk arrow]

yeah

[dense solstice]

That’s just gameplay fam

[sterile tendon]

no thats atoma

[silk arrow]

yeah you missed my comment about that earlier

[sterile tendon]

the p lace just has more ogryns due to an error i think?

[white blade]

My b then

[lunar flint]

The BONE implant improves Ogryn smarts to the point where they can actually count to three and speak in almost complete sentences. The sergeants of Ogryn squads usually get one.

[sterile tendon]

if orgor why

[white blade]

Yeah I've just never heard it called a bone chip

[jagged marten]

the bonehead implant

[dense solstice]

I wonder tho if we’re gonna get a story arc similar to battle for tertium

But focusing on the admech facility

[lunar flint]

At least one of the original three Ogryn personalities has one. Another seems to have a broken one.

[jagged marten]

i am a peerless

spe

ci

men

[sterile tendon]

i think only brwaler has a chip

but its broky

[jagged marten]

https://youtube.com/shorts/DtrGj-x8Uxs?si=yJ0cvtFYaB6iem7a

[white blade]

Brawler has one

Bodyguard talks about wanting one

Bully mentions not having one iirc

[sterile tendon]

bully doesnt want one i think

[silk arrow]

B.O.N.E. stands for Biochemical Ogryn Neural Enhancement

[lunar flint]

Bully's the smartest of the original three though?

[dense solstice]

Imperium not handing out as many due to ram shortages

[silk arrow]

bone chip, bone implant, bone head its all the same thing

[lime mauve]

Assuming the others aren't messing with us, yes

[white blade]

afaik only Brawler has one ¯_(ツ)_/¯

He's also the dumbest

[sterile tendon]

his is cooking his brain