skitarii-class

[remote scroll]

Unfortunately I think i know whats gonna be the "meta" for skit and its the one I enjoy the most
Im no longer ethical

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1507066489134383155/1507107256859230278/bulwark.gif

[soft dagger]

it's skitarii tomorrow for a whole month straight

[pseudo meteor]

Someone forgot to put a bag clip on and now all the powder has gone stale

[near cargo]

What is most focused on toughness and melee I'd imagine

[pseudo meteor]

Does one of the skitarii rifles make a ping like the m1 garand

It'd be funny if it did

[dense solstice]

Don’t mind the dust it’s just been stagnant for nearly 2 months

[sudden juniper]

idk whats been up with Darktide but i hear basically no banter now

unless i've scientifically engineered all my charecters to have less talking points

[pseudo meteor]

Strange, the banter works fine for me

[near cargo]

I think due to the design of the skitarii tree different builds will be a hell of a lot more unique than all the other classes where even different builds of the classes all share like 20+ nodes with eachother.

But skitarii builds will all likely share the same toughness nodes

I'd imagine

[pseudo meteor]

I'm glad the skill tree (circle?) looks to give more flexibility for build variety

[near cargo]

1. Grab toughness generation nodes

2. Go to end of tree that is most relevant to build you want/capstone you want

3. Spend rest of points grabbing what you can from other paths

[near cargo]

Ye thats my point

[heavy citrus]

hyper aggro melee autism sign me up

[pseudo meteor]

Is it possible to go without capstone or nah?

[near cargo]

I'd assume so, vet did for the longest time

[pseudo meteor]

I'd say even now capstoneless vet is possible in the right hands

[heavy citrus]

why is there so much talk about the tree when we nothing besides that it's different

tamper your expectations lol

[pseudo meteor]

Listen we gotta make the best out of the crumbs we got lol

There's only so much powder that makes you say skitarii tomorrow

[near cargo]

The tree's design is a million times better than other classes.

I've seen how its shaped in the dev video

[pseudo meteor]

And also someone forgot to seal it and the powder has gone kinda stale smh

[heavy citrus]

how is it a million times better

its just different

u cant know until we get it and test build creation possibilities

[near cargo]

Wish all classes used that style.

With the way other classes are designed its super easy to just path through all the best nodes on the way to the bottom, and for most classes that means even if "different" builds the top/middle of the tree is p much the same... for the most part the difference is the capstones... which means even on diff builds like 20+ of the points are the same

[haughty galleon]

:3c

[heavy citrus]

and how would u know it's not the same checklist talent tree lol

[heavy citrus]

there you go

if you know you know

[near cargo]

Skitarii builds will look dramatically different based on capstone

[haughty galleon]

Mm actually I know what's going to be meta and it'd be stronger than your build

[near cargo]

Cuz the design of the tree

Not enough points to make it to the end of the diff sections

[heavy citrus]

meh just wait and see what's the fuss is all about

we literally dont even know how it's gonnae play out

speculation is zzzzzzzzzzz

[near cargo]

Its not speculation lmfao

[haughty galleon]

Speculation is cool and builds hype

[heavy citrus]

in moderation maybe

brother here is selling the tree like he's trying to sell me a house

[white blade]

My skitarii build will probably involve a 10mm socket and a lot of swearing

[near cargo]

The skitarii tree is more like PoE

I can find better pics but at work

You start in the middle tho like Scion

[heavy citrus]

yes ive seen the trailer

[near cargo]

I wish other classes had that PoE-esque design

[haughty galleon]

The purple text with the ominous void oozing from it is really funny in that pic

[near cargo]

I'm not saying there won't be nodes most builds will share... I'm just saying on average it'll be less than other classes cuz superior design

That said, most ppl will gravitate to the same build anyways (also like PoE)

[bronze steppe]

show me the nodes that let me have more than one servetor

[heavy citrus]

so just like every other tree

bada bing badaboom

[near cargo]

No

Different builds for other classes still look mostly the same cuz they share the same pathing to the bottom 1/4th of the tree for the most part

Very few exceptions, like Inferno Staff psyker vs Scriers Gaze psyker. But even then those builds share like 20 points

[remote scroll]

It's more i've played every iteration of it and every time I was like " i think the baseline of this is just too strong"

[heavy citrus]

they look the same because people minmax and take the best possible nodes, they'll do the same here
dont underestimate the ability of this community to minmax tf out of everything

[dense solstice]

The Cole hit squad reading this clenching their fist as we speak

[remote scroll]

Granted I don't think it's game breaking but it certainly is strong.

[haughty galleon]

Yeah but I too have played every iteration of it and gone "this sauce I've cooked is stronger than Cole's".

[proven storm]

"Make it stronger than psyker!"

[remote scroll]

You just hate me

[near cargo]

Yeah but it takes 6 points just to get to a blitz with Skitarii.

6 points to a blitz and atleast that to get to a capstone.

That alone means as a baseline the different builds will have more differences between eachother than other classes as a baseline

[opal thistle]

I wish he made more sense

misdirections often tbh

[late veldt]

real question is skiitari has shovel

[proven storm]

This is because Regi thinks PFalchion is strong enough and path finds that unacceptable jk

[dense solstice]

Power shovel or we fucking riot

[gilded osprey]

does anyone know when skitarii pre order shall be available

[proven storm]

No preorder probably day of release

same as the others

[near cargo]

Like, having a different blitz than someone playing the the same class as you for other classes is only like 1 skill point difference

[dense solstice]

I was gonna say

[opal thistle]

nah I'm just rly disappointed by their weapon design after arb release

[dense solstice]

We’ve never had class preorders

This isn’t a ea game

[opal thistle]

we really went from shield & maul to falchion then to bonesaw

like we really just did

the drop in quality is tremendous

[grand sluice]

god the new weapon designs are hilarious

[remote scroll]

There wont be
The last two classes were purchasable a few hours after the update

[grand sluice]

has combos, but generally better off light spamming

[heavy citrus]

i like crowbar

it has aura

[haughty galleon]

Makes me a bit curious as to how balancing is handled. Even like minor pickrate data would imply that those mostly linear pathing trends are usually just in hyper-online communities and more casual players differ. Could just be raw balancing it though by ear that'd be funny.

[proven storm]

Killing enemies also has aura

[heavy citrus]

brother rampage can make anything kill enimies

[silk lantern]

Ye

[dense solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/crowbar-gif-12144360893082019520

[silk lantern]

Hopefully none of skit's weapons are on that level

[grand sluice]

yeah, the aura of a temu shovel

[proven storm]

At least the guns are still fun lmfao

[late veldt]

I like bonesaw tbh

[opal thistle]

I guess? but they're not that interesting either

[late veldt]

would be better if the toxin counted for the onkills for blinders

[grand sluice]

you can like it, but it's still the posterchild of terrible weapon design

[gilded osprey]

id love to see the new sword's and dagger's moveset

[haughty galleon]

I'll never forgive your crimes but I don't hate you you're still a legacy zealot oomf

[late veldt]

you mean needing 3 talents and 2 cleave blessings isnt good design?

[gilded osprey]

vermintide's wasnt too intricate

[remote scroll]

What crimes

[grand sluice]

i think 1 cleave talent and blessing is enough, but yeah that's annoying

the bigger crime is the moveset

[opal thistle]

the time u donated 38 kidneys to a children's hospital after getting drunk at a party

[grand sluice]

how you're generally better off light spamming

[late veldt]

yeah I like it and still don't ever use the purple goo

[grand sluice]

than actually using combos lol

[heavy citrus]

the moveset is fun

[haughty galleon]

Gimme a shock gauntlet fatshark you promised before launch...

[heavy citrus]

i dont worry too much about numbers on the class with an ult that turns a wooden stick into earthdestroyer99999

[remote scroll]

I think having a weapon that innately spreads a strong dot on hit should have cleave as an innate weakness you need to work around

The default attack speed though just feels wonky

[haughty galleon]

I went to helldivers and came back and you lost all buildcrafting sauce when Zealot's tree was in need of a rework. Lost all aura...

[late veldt]

I'd prefer the wonky attack speed but with good cleave, or faster attack speed

[remote scroll]

What aura did i even have to lose

[opal thistle]

I think the worst part about it is that the stagger it desperately needs can't be recovered by its main dmg source

[proven storm]

To fix bonesaw they should give it to Vet

[late veldt]

heavy->light->light->pa

[haughty galleon]

You were like a crab/tyr tier zealot saucemancer back in the day

[opal thistle]

no thx I actually want good weapons

[proven storm]

you don't want good weapons like the bonesaw

[tidal pendant]

nobody can match tyr's .5 square inch mouse space

[haughty galleon]

They should give bonesaw to ogryn but make it a 2h

[haughty galleon]

God I wish I had that pic of arco's desk playing darktide

[remote scroll]

Doing fucking what

Idk what i did

[opal thistle]

tbh also their recent balancing have gone much more conservative

[remote scroll]

I dont recall doing much different back then

[opal thistle]

it's like baby steps in the right direction

[proven storm]

They're still scared of the never nerf people

lol

[opal thistle]

ok but can we get rid of the 0.5 maniac impact ADM on weapons

that's not a nerf

[silk lantern]

Idk i think nuking uncanny was a big step

[proven storm]

A great step

bless

The game is a lot more fun now

[opal thistle]

(also I finished updating duelling sword section in guide)

honest conclusion it kinda fell off

washed

[proven storm]

thank god

[opal thistle]

it's good for what it is but

it does nothing outside of that

[proven storm]

Path what's the second best weapon in the game

[dense solstice]

The an laptop

[opal thistle]

wdym

[dense solstice]

Being cooled by a mini fan

[proven storm]

Because the best one is the power sword

[opal thistle]

I don't think power sword is best atm

[dense solstice]

That shit looked like the bomb briefcase from old cod games

[opal thistle]

I think it's karsolas

[flat crag]

It's heree

[wheat bison]

phosphor blaster

isnt that the one on kastelans?

also what ordinary weapons do you think we'll get? I suspect lasgun + powersword

[honest magnet]

transonic weapon

they are in the trailer and dlc preview :p

[haughty galleon]

Devil Claw

[proven storm]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1368288312682479639/1467427393458147492/twitter_2017675220211875857.gif

[proven storm]

Nah they won't get power sword they're getting their own instead

[wheat bison]

i dont know if that necessarily follows

[proven storm]

Also they wouldn't rip that from Vet

[haughty galleon]

Infantry Lasgun

[proven storm]

Now they real funny thing is if the skitarii power sword works like relic blade and falchion but unlike the power falchion the skitarii power sword is good

[honest magnet]

i wonder how the powering up mechanic on the transonic weapon works :p

i hope its not the same as power sword

[cloud egret]

helbore lasgun

[proven storm]

Anyways my lkst

Ranged
All Las guns. So pistol, recon and inf.
Infantry autogun, maybe braced
Combat shotty, DB
Bolter, Bolt pistol
Maybe revolver

Melee
Devil claw
Tac axe and combat axe
Shock maul
Chainswords
Knife
Crusher
Heavy sword (maybe)

[raw coyote]

guys what blessing should I put on the sonic blade mk2?

[proven storm]

The pool is terrible give up

Overload

[raw coyote]

brb uninstalling :c

[crystal token]

I'm realising there was no Omnissiah Axe shown

it's so over

[white blade]

We aren't tech priests

[crystal token]

I'm half joking the other stuff is really cool

[silk lantern]

Wait fr?

[heady aurora]

omni axe with arc boosts would be sick

maybe we get weapon packs for all classes next or something

[crystal token]

Omnissiah Axe would be REALLY COOL but if Skitarii can't use them by lore then I understand

but if they can and it's a later weapon to be added that'd be really cool

[sterile tendon]

oh is this chat for the scribe class

[gilded osprey]

shall we get helbore

[haughty galleon]

Skitarii walking around with an omnissian axe would get disappeared by hadron in like 4 picoseconds

[crystal token]

ok that's fair

[solar thicket]

Does anyone know the time it releases?

[opal thistle]

Kinda yea

[lusty granite]

Most likely in the morning for the studios time on June 23rd

[solar thicket]

What time do they run on?

[lusty granite]

Idk

[wheat relic]

sweden time

[uncut cloak]

i think it's usually 6 PM on CET

[olive yew]

We’ll pretty much never get the omnissian axe now 😔

[honest magnet]

we get skitarii even though darktide player "lore" supposed to be rejects. don't lose hope

[olive yew]

Skitarii commanders technically

Because we can’t be special enough as normal Skitarii

[subtle dragon]

Thats the lore for the original four classes

[cinder leaf]

Hasn't FatShark stopped calling us Rejects?

[haughty galleon]

we need to get a 2h chainaxe first

[olive yew]

Technically the rejects have survived to become full Warband members

[olive yew]

That would be too hype

[crystal token]

The Rejects are full on Acolytes after the campaign

[haughty galleon]

Probably because it doesn't apply to all players anymore, would be weird to call an Arbites a reject indirectly.

[olive yew]

That too

[crystal token]

Skitarii are REALLY cool so not getting an Omnissiah Axe is ok

I would've been happy with a Combat Servitor tbh LOL

This is way better than that

[olive yew]

I’d still be happier with Kataphrons but they’re obviously too broken for this game

Also arc rifle should theoretically be infinite ammo

[near cargo]

They should rework all trees to be like like skitarii's/path of exile

[gilded osprey]

id like to see fatshark reinvent the wheel

i mean, they could do it

[haughty galleon]

We need to see the full tree first. Based on what we've seen, the pathing economy is likely not different enough to other trees to warrant any reworks like that.

[near cargo]

I mean... in theory on skitarii tree blitzes are 12 nodes away from eachother

For other classes its like 1

That not even taking into account capstone/ability spacing

[olive yew]

Yea, honestly the new tree looks much more interesting then 3 paths that everyone takes one specific path through

[near cargo]

Fatshark can do a poor job balancing it and everyone could windup using the same stuff, but thats irrelevant to the point that the design itself is far superior

[haughty galleon]

should just keep the other class trees the same but randomize the placement of all the core talents, so you can get keystones in blitz spots and coherency auras in ult spots as examples.

[lost perch]

https://tenor.com/view/skitarii-warhammer-40k-skitarii-warhammer-40k-warhammer-40k-skitarii-gif-9036429731584954943

[near cargo]

With how close all the points are to one another you could still just take all the best stuff with making sacrifices tho

Like, with other classes you can have 2 builds with diff capstone, blitz, skill, and auras but the other 20+ points are the same lol

[silk lantern]

Pog

[viscid herald]

So is the transonic sword and knife gonna be a duel wield weapon?

[lusty granite]

Maybe

[opal thistle]

It’s cuz Karsolas is basically the highest mixed horde dps melee that has good stagger

There’re weapons with better dps but they’re usually quite a bit worse at stagger

[worn birch]

Kinda wished we got Skitarii Vanguard, but for lore reasons I get why we didn't.

[opal thistle]

I think there’s a design from the official reveal that resembles them

[worn birch]

It wasn't the deluxe skin, if that's what you mean.

It'd be cool if we got vanguard cosmetics from class penances.

[opal thistle]

Yes I mean in the reveal video

[worn birch]

In the trailer? Or the Skulls reveal where the devs were talking about it with office work b-roll in the background?

[silk lantern]

Or aquilas shop

[opal thistle]

Office

This one

[worn birch]

Yup, rewatching the DT bit of that now.
Sadly it's just concept art, no guarantee it'll be in the game.
If it is though, definitely gonna buy it. At least the head.

[soft dagger]

the heads are my most anxious part of skitarii

if there arent a lot to pick from people are just going to look the same

not like the other classes where you have face and hair to customize

[opal thistle]

High ranking skitarii personnel could get mechadendrites

Curious if they’ll make it into the game

Maybe from certain talents

[worn birch]

Would really love that! Though I imagine they'd be simpler ones- melee ones, maybe ranged ones. Would be nice to get one that can do automatically do data interrogation while you shoot/melee enemies around you. Or at the very least grab pickups from far away.

I also wonder if they'll be allowed stimms? They're mostly machine.

[opal thistle]

Auto data interrogation would be peak

Actually would make skitarii best solo class instantly lol

[soft dagger]

i hope at least one of the blitz's is a body mounted weapon

[worn gust]

"NANITES, SON!"

[silver dune]

I demand the Skitarii Marshall and bucket helmet drip obese fish

[worn birch]

Assuming this is a thing, for gameplay balance I figure it'd be like when deploying detpacks or interrogators, hold button until bar fills rather than do a minigame.

[foggy galleon]

I mean there is the skull

Floats around n shi

[worn birch]

That too!

[foggy galleon]

Yeah

On pc theres mods that do that

[sharp aurora]

When do we get gameplay reveal?

[silver dune]

I can’t wait to hear the new voice lines, I hope Hadron calls me a good boy

[worn birch]

Probably not.

Hadron is a techpriest, skitarii are soldiers.

[silver dune]

We’re from two different worlds Sadge

[worn birch]

More like castes, but yeah.

[brittle mortar]

i can confirm that if you bring back 10k tech remnants from a single mission as a skitarius a special cutscene with hadron plays and she says "ugh fine, i guess you are my little cogchamp"

[foggy galleon]

Closest you’ll get is good varlet I fear

[foggy galleon]

https://tenor.com/view/despicable-me-despicable-me-3-sniffing-gem-inpsecting-gif-10168292802884665012

[foggy galleon]

I fucking hate autocorrect

How does varlet turn into barker

[acoustic dagger]

It's peaktide....

[cinder leaf]

For Hadron, I'd bark too

[acoustic dagger]

Likely in a week or two, same as before

There will be a dev blog once a week too I think

[sharp aurora]

Thx

[brittle mortar]

i sure hope fatshark doesn't do another uprising playthrough as the first gameplay reveal

[worn birch]

For Arbites it was 17 days.

Between reveal trailer and gameplay trailer.

[brittle mortar]

i had to run so much interference in this chat because their video made the class look boring as balls

for arbites

lmfao

well, i didn't have to. i wanted to

"no no guys please i swear it's actually cool 😭"

[worn birch]

If you're able to make suggestions to the devs, get them to do "light work" and "heavy work" gameplay.

[foggy galleon]

I hope this time they get people into a havoc or auric maelstrom to really show the class off

[brittle mortar]

marketing isnt really who i get to talk to

[acoustic dagger]

Unpopular opinion but I understood the reasoning behind it. That being said I hope the skitarii gameplay showcase is on heresy at least lol

[remote scroll]

i mean theres always the content creators dropping havoc runs at the time you can actually see all the class has to offer and not just the teasers

(me)

[opal thistle]

It should just be playtester gameplay at auric or havoc difficulty

[remote scroll]

that arbites footage was so bad

[foggy galleon]

Yes but the actual teaser should be the good stuff

[worn birch]

I get showing off features and handling on low intensity first. But yeah, I'd like to see some more tense gameplay.

[remote scroll]

i think its mostly just a disconnect in timeline stuff

[foggy galleon]

Would probably get a lot more people who see the game for the first time interested

[remote scroll]

the content creator build isnt up and running when that stuff is being made and approved

its all pretty close to release

[foggy galleon]

The arbites one was a snooze fest and made the game lowk look boring

[acoustic dagger]

I think the uprising gameplay was more about showing off weapon first person models and sounds than actual gameplay

[silver dune]

I get not wanting the hectic gameplay of the higher difficulties to muddy the footage showing off the class but having two different games one for the reveal and another to showcase the class would be good

Trying to show off the weapons and 40 mutants come sprinting at you

[worn birch]

It doesn't even have to be sweaty gameplay, just pick some high intensity Heresy.

[foggy galleon]

Imagine never having seen the game and then seeing people cleave through hordes of enemies

That’d look fun

[remote scroll]

the problem is like

high level gameplay just looks confusing

[acoustic dagger]

That being said it was definitely the wrong move lol, the point in time where I was sold on both arby and hivescum was the H40 gameplay

[remote scroll]

to someone whos never seen it

[plucky zealot]

High level gameplay looks like cod at times

Plus chivalry 2

[foggy galleon]

Not 3 enemies and then even cutting the gameplay so at one time the boss charges em and then just cutting to the boss being dead

[foggy galleon]

True

Maybe damnation

[silver dune]

Damnation is a good balance

[foggy galleon]

I hope you get to actually change parts in your skitarii that change how it plays, like an extra arm or maybe being faster but having less hp, or being tankier but slower etc

[acoustic dagger]

This was more or less my reaction when I randomly saw vermintide 1 gameplay many years ago. I just went "oh is this just about swinging a piece of metal into formless blobs of brown pixels? Who'd want to play that lmao" and then I forgot about -tide games existing until darktide was announced

[remote scroll]

getting good footage that shows the chaos of the game while still being understandable is really hard

cuz it depends on just random factors and the skill and playstyle of the person whos playing

[silver dune]

Trade in my gun servoskull for some mechadendrites

[worn birch]

Would be cool if I could get both tbh

[foggy galleon]

Im Sorry but the idea of having a servo skull with a flame thrower is way to cool for that

[sharp aurora]

Does anybody know what the galvanic rifle is supposed to shoot? Beam or what

[acoustic dagger]

⚡

[woven ember]

if you check the Arbi channel.. well that about sums up why it may difficult to get people to move away from Arbi.. its a brain dead class. if people have to use a brain cell, well that may overheat 😛 (joke)

[worn birch]

Electrified bullets, according to lore.

Arc rifle will shoots arcs of electricity.

[silver dune]

Understandable

[worn birch]

My assumption is it uses recycled electrokinetic staff effects.

[foggy galleon]

If I remember correctly it shoots servitor bullets (whatever that is) that like do something with the potential energy of the victim (???) and causing em to explode or sum

[warm pulsar]

Medieval peasants would explode if they watched my havoc 40 solo

[silver dune]

It’s a directed energy weapon, it cracks like lightning when fired

[crystal token]

Hey what do you think will be the first ever pinned thing for the Skitarii channel

[foggy galleon]

Might be confusing it with another Mechanicus weapon tho

[sharp aurora]

Interesting, this class got my hyped

[warm pulsar]

Kuli guide to the class

I will make sure of that

[sharp aurora]

Hive scum didnt get me hyped at all

[acoustic dagger]

Me getting barreled off the map because another player mistakes me spam firing my galvanic rifle for smykering 😔

[warm pulsar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1272804331497979935/1450700850132418651/Kill_All_Smykers.gif

[silver dune]

You’re thinking of the galvanic rifle

Which yeah makes you explode

[foggy galleon]

Yes that’s what the person was asking about

[remote scroll]

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/stop-asking-for-weapon-nerfs-in-a-team-game/121621/60?u=epic_cole

[acoustic dagger]

Yeah the hscum reveal trailer was pretty dissapointing but seeing actual gameplay got ms interested

[silver dune]

I thought we were talking about the arc rifle

[warm pulsar]

Lmao

[crystal token]

It's really funny looking at all the pinned guides but then you look at the first pinned thing in Ogryns channel and it's a pun LMFAO

[worn birch]

What if
the galvanic rifle had a garand ping or something similar?! 👀

[foggy galleon]

Make the first pin skitarii femboys

[warm pulsar]

@mellow storm did you make this gif?

[brittle mortar]

gotta remember the classics

[median yacht]

i would hive scum everywhere

[brittle mortar]

that pun has been pinned since time immemorial

[median yacht]

would be scrubbing it from the walls for days

[crystal token]

It is very important to have that pun immortalized

It is the most Ogryn part of the channel

[foggy galleon]

I do wonder how a weapon would do something with the potential energy of a target

I know it’s Warhammer but yk

[worn birch]

I remember reading a while back that galvanic shots just burn out the nervous system of whatever it hits, not sure if explosively.

Like, flash-fries it with so much juice.

[sharp aurora]

It looks fun in game

[brittle mortar]

it's technobabble that sounds cool but i have no idea how to translate it to a real... thing... that does things... to targets

[worn birch]

Works against robots and vehicles for the same reason.

[lime mauve]

Grav weapons do "something" and then do more damage the heavier the target is. Considering how meta they were in tabletop in 6th(?) edition when they were first introduced, it's hilarious how utterly forgotten they are

[acoustic dagger]

Ah, good old neural overload

[sharp aurora]

But I just started vet and I gotta max it out first

[median yacht]

new death animations pls

[crystal token]

Gun make go boom if target stand still?

[foggy galleon]

Aren’t they just anti vehicle weapons that maybe 3 units can use?

[brittle mortar]

"These weapons fire specialized servitor-bullets over long distances that cause all potential energy of the target to burn out in a killing blast of electric force."

[crystal token]

Small boom if target moving?

[worn birch]

Funny thing, that- if it flash-fries the nervous system, it might render whoever it hits into some sort of rictus state.

[foggy galleon]

And awefully mid anti vehicle weapons at that

[silver dune]

It overloads your nervous system and makes you pop like a zit

[crystal token]

Because isn't potential energy the descriptor for an object at rest and the opposite to kinetic energy for an object in motion?

[foggy galleon]

https://tenor.com/view/jimmy-butler-jimmy-butler-paper-confused-gif-14478007832172093541

[median yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-shocked-shocking-gif-14682087

[silver dune]

There are different kinds of potential energy

[acoustic dagger]

Gun shoot magic zappy thing that stick to your brain stuff. Brain stuff gets cooked and you die

[worn birch]

Like how a taser makes shitbags people freeze up.

[brittle mortar]

i'm going to assume it's just MOTIVE FORCE GO! when the servitor bullet hits a target and then there's some zippy zappy

[worn birch]

Literally every muscle firing at once, stiffening the body.

[lime mauve]

There were like 5 minutes where Space Marines spammed the shit out of them, they probably got nerfed after that but now AdMech and Votann get them too

[silver dune]

Like gravitational potential energy and elastic potential energy

[plucky zealot]

Does that cause tendon tearing

[crystal token]

My other guess is it activating your body's natural energy. As an example neurons all firing at maximum output all at once frying your brain which is why the Bulwark from the trailer took two shots to cook. Maximum power for a AAA battery isn't going to fry a tank LOL

[worn birch]

"servitor-bullet"
How tf they fitting a whole brain into a bullet? They using squirrel brains for this shit?!

[worn birch]

Probably?? idk I don't electrocute people for a living.

[crystal token]

Ogryn brain might not be very strong but even an Ogryn brain will end up exploding with enough forced maximum effort

[plucky zealot]

You know more than I do

[silver dune]

Big egg takes a bit more to scramble

[crystal token]

They collect brains from the average Darktide reddit user

[brittle mortar]

i have literally no idea

[plucky zealot]

Do we know what the personalities are called? I think i temember the hivecum personalities being leaked

Hivescum*

[worn birch]

If I had to guess the actual meaning behind that, the bullets possibly have a small amount of cogitator bits in them that allow them some fancier functions. What those are, no clue.

[crystal token]

Exactly yeah! And that look of 404 on the Ogryn's face after the second shot sorta gave the impression their brain turned on like a light bulb and then violently burnt itself out

[brittle mortar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1507066489134383155/1507107256859230278/bulwark.gif

[mellow storm]

I took a gif I had stored in discord, which is you blowing up a smyker, and I put the text on top of it cuz it was too perfect as a response for that post in the forums

[crystal token]

His whole brain went error mode right before death

[worn birch]

404 rations not found.

[acoustic dagger]

How it feels to try to make sense of 40k lore

[worn birch]

WRRRRRECKING CRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR-
Bulwark.exe has stopped working

[silver dune]

Think about how they used brain cells to play doom, they probably use some brain matter to program the bullets

It’s not capable of cognitive thought but the synapses and electrical impulse is there

[worn birch]

Nah nah,
it's pigeons.
https://youtu.be/jrJlLDUzynU?si=WecytfuTrnMHnykC&t=19

[silver dune]

Pigeon bullets OP

[warm pulsar]

It's amazing, I just wanted to ask if you could post it here so I could save it since mobile sucks

But yeah the gif is mine, just not the text one

[crystal token]

The bullet knows where it is because the pigeon knows where it isn't

[mellow storm]

have fun

[acoustic dagger]

I'm kind of shocked that forum thread is that new

I expected it'd be much older

I also wonder what about skitarii balancing will be a point of contention for all the shitter players. I remember how arbytide players started mass ragequitting over fatshark reducing their base toughness lmao

Ditto with hs over the pickpocket change iirc

[worn birch]

"Oh for- no toaster sex?! 0/10, FUCK THIS GAME"

[lost perch]

wow ive never looked at steam forums

what a battleground

oh wow everyone hates inferno staff

https://tenor.com/view/good-good-good-palpatine-emperor-palpatine-lightsaber-gif-19907846

[cloud egret]

i hate it because it burns the fuck out of my eyes

[remote scroll]

i mean thats the fatshark forums

which is a lot more tame by comparison than the steam forums

[lost perch]

oops cant read urls

[cloud egret]

the flames are just so bloody bright

[lost perch]

you can literally mod them out of the game if u want

I had to mod explosion effects out of the game because im a melee player 90% of the time

[acoustic dagger]

Steam forums are unusable

[lost perch]

and ogryn/vet will blind the fuck out of me constantly with explosions

[remote scroll]

@lost perch

[lost perch]

https://tenor.com/view/uncanny-cat-uncanny-valley-dark-wtf-gif-14708455975531353777

[acoustic dagger]

Exactly what I had in mind

[remote scroll]

that was on the uncanny hotfix

[tiny flame]

Klansmen coming back

[little mesa]

https://giphy.com/gifs/son-itsburger010-sonion-vB6Yf0DYFWLjEgpScJ

[wet ginkgo]

The world without browns and women:

https://tenor.com/view/earth-globe-explode-gif-14366757

No more good games

[near cargo]

The real question is...

Does Skitarii get psyker/arbites stam regen?

That insta recovery is 🤌

[cloud egret]

i mean i don't think a good game has any bearing on the race or gender of who made it, just talent

[cloud egret]

we don't know, but what we do know is the drip level is off the goddamn charts

[lethal oar]

Smartest steam forum user

[near cargo]

Ye from a lore perspective Adeptus Mechanicus were what I was by far the most excited about and wanted added to the game

Lore and cosmetic wise

[lethal oar]

1 store page forever (GW hates us)

[mellow storm]

i would expect skitarii to have vet stam regen tbh; them iron lungs gotta pump away

[near cargo]

Its the 1 class that can potentially pull me away from Arbites (not a fan of them lore/cosmetically but the gameplay is exactly what I'm looking for as a forever footknight main)

[frail verge]

I hopping vanguard and rustsalker cosmetics can be earn for skitarii

[cloud egret]

yeah it's also neat that they're expanding the customization for skitarii (maybe other classes too in the future?) and while "multiple legs" gives me the idea of stuff like sicarian legs or the spider legs i'm just thinking it'll be stuff like they look different

[cloud egret]

ruststalker would probably be harder to program due to this clawhands

[silver dune]

I’m swiping my credit card regardless but earned would be cool

[mellow storm]

my expectation for skitarii is 200 base hp, 50 base toughness, with 3 base stamina, 0.75s stam regen delay, and 1 per second, and dodge will be 2.5m distance, 0.2s cooldown, and 0.2s linger.

I base this on nothing more than gut feeling and general class theming and how they work in the TTG. We shall see how right I am

[silver dune]

The people demand the bucket helmets fatshark

[acoustic dagger]

Yeah I am presuming skit will have vet-level stam regen

[frail verge]

Clawhands are technically a weapon choice so they can be outfited with regular hands

[cloud egret]

i'm think it's gonna be like a vet situation since skitarii can be both ranged and melee in lore

[near cargo]

Its wild Arbites has Psyker stam regen, would have expected them to have the vet treatment... but it feels so good cuz I love push attacking with maul + shield

[acoustic dagger]

My headcanon is 175 base hp but otherwise I agree

[cloud egret]

tbf, arbites are incredibly highly trained individuals

so they probably know how to conserve stamina better

[near cargo]

For sure

Wonder if Skitarii's servitor will knock specials off you

Like dog

[acoustic dagger]

It makes sense from a gameplay perspective since arbites are really good at cc via staggering everything

[silver dune]

It’ll probably shoot them off you I’d imagine

[cloud egret]

people do cling on a bit too hard on the whole "rejects" thing despite the game making it abundantly clear the other (non-reject) classes have a reason to be there

[near cargo]

Same, thats what I'm thinking

[cloud egret]

the arbites of atoma don't like how long the war is taking

[mellow storm]

this wouldn't horribly shock me, but my expectation is that they'll go for more hp and less toughness, as part of the idea of them being part robot meaning they are able to take a whole bunch of punishment to the face, but in exchange have lower toughness so stuff gets to that face easier

[cloud egret]

the hive scum don't like the moebian 6th on their turf

and the skitarii don't want to lose the data and other tech stuff on atoma to chaos

[silver dune]

By the end of the story we’re full fledged members of the inquisitors warband

[frail verge]

Skitarii is gonna trivialise hacking which is cool for missions with hacking

[silver dune]

That’s what the inquisitorial rosette charm signifies that we’re part of the inquisition

[mellow storm]

does the servo skull hack for you?

that would be hilarious

[frail verge]

Yeah it says so on the steam page

[mellow storm]

i wonder if it'll like consume a grenade charge or something to do the hack

[acoustic dagger]

I could see it going either way since IIRC toughness mechanic is described at vaguely being a character's willpower and capacity to keep fighting through injuries and pain

[narrow nebula]

Need a talent node for hacking, i guess

[cloud egret]

whioch is why zealot and arbites can generate so much of it

well and ogryn

[silver dune]

Ogryn too stupid to die

[acoustic dagger]

Mentally I have typecasted the class as being veteran adjacent inasmuch that I expect the class will be a tad more standoffish like the veteran. But we will have to wait and see for blogposts about that

[haughty galleon]

Depends on the class. Like with Vet it was the literal armor + the typical fortitude of a vet. With Zealot it's undying faith. Ogryn it's raw ignorance.

[cloud egret]

honestly i think we'll probably get one extremely mechanical skitarii personality and they'll be very stand off-ish to characters like zealot and hive scum

i just don't see skitarii getting one with those

[acoustic dagger]

I meant standoffish as in combat engagement range, not personality

[final drum]

Fellas do you think we are gonna get stuff from WH Mechanicus?

I wanna see a Dominus skill tree

[silver dune]

Gotta have a super religious personality too the omnissiah wills it, will be great to hear the voice lines between them and Zealot

[cloud egret]

oh, tbh skitarii iirc in lore specialize in either ranged or melee

[mellow storm]

from what they said, I think we're gonna see one archetype that's a psycho melee berserker high on the "Motive Force" (And totally not the cocktail of stims he downed in the valkyrie), one that's basically an exe stance veteran with esoteric guns and weird bullshit, and one that's basically that one wizard suit from Anthem minus the flight

[acoustic dagger]

Interesting

[cloud egret]

melee berserker? alright i'm sold fatshark take my fuckin' money

for some reason i can't do ranged builds at all so i end up always in melee

[mellow storm]

same, I can't play ranged builds

it just feels bad

[cloud egret]

something about "hang back a bit" does not click in my brain

[silver dune]

The transonic sword and knife Skitarii builds gonna go hard

[haughty galleon]

I like gimmick ranged builds like Zealot's agri railgun, or just like close-range stuff but an exe vet for instance isn't as fun as the melee combat.

[mellow storm]

i mostly just don't have the aim for ranged builds to do well, ngl

I'm old and slow

[remote scroll]

i really need to read that whole thing in depth

[mellow storm]

clicking on heads is hard

[acoustic dagger]

I love clicking heads

[final drum]

"Fleshbag (derogatory++)"

[mellow storm]

I will sacrifice a goat to Wodan for Fatshark if one of the personalities talks like HK-47

[final drum]

Ill take one that acts/ speaks like Scaevola

[cloud egret]

WE GOT A BOOMER

[mellow storm]

https://tenor.com/bpQil.gif

[narrow nebula]

"Pre-servitor"

[final drum]

https://tenor.com/view/leuze-adeptus-mechanicus-tech-priest-chad-gigachad-gif-16989754678889066260

[woven ember]

And considering Arbi's are just absolute units on their own accord.. Apparently larger than some imperium citizens (according to lore depictions)

[cloud egret]

they're incredibly highly trained from very young so naturally they turn out bigger and more imposing

keep in mind the same school they go to also pumps out commissars and i believe inquistiors?

[brittle mortar]

i just reread the announcement but i'm not sure which parts have led you to draw this conclusion

[woven ember]

I believe that is correct yes.. yes so they bulk up early heh

[mellow storm]

Wild extrapolation from reading between the lines and the tooltips that were in that video they posted

It's purely gut feeling

[brittle mortar]

the scholam? yeah, lots of elite imperial units are sourced from there.

[rotund chasm]

thats also just like all the personalities except ogryn

[cloud egret]

i wasn't sure about the inquisitor part glad i got it right!

[rotund chasm]

u got the professional one u got the crazy one u got the life sucks one

and sometimes the traumatized one

is this an AI gif

[cloud egret]

yes

it has the watermark in the bottom right

[brittle mortar]

arbitrators, commissars, tempestus scions, inquisitors, astra militarum and imperial navy officers, imperial assassins, adeptus sororita

[rotund chasm]

havent heard of wan before so i didnt know

[brittle mortar]

many of them come from the schola progenium

[cloud egret]

so just incredibly highly trained individuals off-rip for the arbites

[rotund chasm]

ai cadian 1894f

[brittle mortar]

incredibly highly trained and brainwashed to perfection.

[rotund chasm]

am i

too high

1984'd

[brittle mortar]

ah ok

[cloud egret]

yeah essentially still so it makes sense arbites are the way they are in game

one of the rare time lore and gameplay do intersect aand it ends up fun

[brittle mortar]

absolutely, i think the writing team nailed it

[cloud egret]

even gameplay stuff

[mellow storm]

The schola basically takes in huge numbers of orphans, screens them for what they're good at, assigns them to life roles, and then raises them in cartoonishly evil ways where even in the nicer parts most of them die

[rotund chasm]

one of the female arbie voices calls the female fanatic zealot a good pet

[brittle mortar]

i love all of the arbites personalities but the maul is such a ridiculously apt representation of the most rigid and dogmatic of imperial indoctrinations

him and his dumb batman voice

i love him

what a piece of shit

[mellow storm]

And the few who graduate are all uber badasses thoroughly indoctrinated in supporting the impromptu

[silver dune]

Maul my GOAT

[rotund chasm]

bro probably destroys his throat

[heady aurora]

I wonder if they are going to take riffs from outcast engineer bardin melee talents, where maintaining a high amount of class resource gives more melee boosts or something

[silver dune]

Not just orphans but the children of decorated veterans of elite units and the higher echelon of society so they arent “burdened” by a child

Imagine your dad is a decorated war hero so you get sent to military school forever

[mellow storm]

Those are basically orphans

[cloud egret]

oh 100% if he keeps doing that voice he's bound for throat cancer since that kinda voice fucks your throat up BAD

[silver dune]

When I think Orphan I think dead parents

[brittle mortar]

they usually are orphans but that's because it's the duty of all of these imperial notables to die in the line of duty

[cloud egret]

i mean, you can't deny the results

[brittle mortar]

so then their children are sent to the scholam

this provides the scholam with a ready supply of malleable children from good breeding stock

[cloud egret]

skitarii are also iirc incredibly highly skilled and trained individuals

[mellow storm]

Correct

And they're only mostly lobotomized

[heady aurora]

https://tenor.com/view/neo-neo-kung-fu-i-know-kung-fu-kung-fu-matrix-gif-21409172

skitarii in cannon though

upload all the skills you need

[cloud egret]

so like we're getting some incredible forces for atoma

(maybe crusader as a class? in the future?)

[heady aurora]

I hope we get astartes scouts, before they undergo the full augmentation process but using atoma as a training ground for new initiates

[young panther]

Skitarii are very skilled but they're not you know very high above guardsmen

The sicarians are for example not on par with the assassins

[heady aurora]

like how the space wolves throw teenagers into the icy wastes over and over to see which ones are good enough to make the cut

[wary cradle]

is there any way to try out any of the skitarii sutff or will it be when the class releases?

[woven ember]

Space Wolves do have Bjorn Fellhand.. the 2nd oldest Dreadnought. He fought with Russ before having his spine shattered. Yup that dude is old and cranky

[young panther]

Also do primaris space marines even have scouts the way the firstborn did ?

[mild pawn]

wonder what the backpack item for the skitari is gonna be

[silver dune]

Need a Skitarii personality that only speaks in binary and everyone is just trying to figure out what the hell you’re saying

[cloud egret]

there's an older dreadnought than bjorn?

[silver dune]

Yes

[young panther]

also garik the only augment they don't have to my knowledge is the black carapace to control the armor

Scouts are very much space marines xp

[cloud egret]

also this

or have them be like nozick where it's binary but when they can't understand they give the others shit for making them use their flesh-voice

[heady aurora]

I am saying at a point in the process where they are not super human yet, so it doesnt break from the premise of darktide scaling

[woven ember]

indeed there is.. though not as functional as Fel.. so its a matter of what you consider to be the truly old.. because Fel can certainly wake up and fight

[young panther]

so never

that is what you are saying xp

even from the first organs they become super human
they gain muscle mass when the Biscopea is inserted

but the secondary heart and Ossmodula are innserted they already begin to gain abilities above that of a human

which those are at .. phew

like 13 years old

[cloud egret]

yeah even scouts are incredibly strong

[heady aurora]

fair enough

[woven ember]

If my memory is correct.. space marines go through 28 surgeries over the course of 18 years.. before they are "super human"

[cloud egret]

number depends on if they're primaris or not

[brittle mortar]

What it looks like, you mean?

[young panther]

they start their augmentations at 10 years old @woven ember

and end them at 18

[woven ember]

Yes. Also depends on the chapter. some space marine chapters had more than normal.. or were augmented differently. I forget their name right now but I know one Marine chapter accepted bionic implants same as the Mechanicus

[silver dune]

Hasturias Calaxor he’s a custodes, if Sagittarus Malacque is alive he may be slightly older being the first custodes interred in a dreadnought

[cloud egret]

also sidenote: my favorite lore tidbit is maximmion voss who is a space marine that despite being only 6'6 is the widest astartes because dude started actually weight training and had to be told to stop because he was giving them people refitting his armor an aneurysm

[young panther]

the augmentation process is 8 years

[coarse egret]

https://giphy.com/gifs/yummy-fried-chicken-air-fryer-rrmAHuF3xtvvYhcAOX

[woven ember]

When it comes to space marines.. one of the memes I wont forget is about the Salamanders. They were one of the few Space Marines with feelings and so the meme was "if its not a cute kitten, burn it"

[rotund chasm]

i hope we can become skitarrii irl

[young panther]

One of the few is greatly exaggerating

[rotund chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer-weakness-flesh-disgusted-warhammer-40k-gif-2527423007072874156

[silver dune]

The other side of this coin being the tallest space marine Alexis Polux who could look Guilliman in the eye, which made him uneasy lol both Imperial Fists too

[silver dune]

Read up on the Crimson Fists you may like them as well, especially Rynn’s World

[young panther]

If someone mentions the shark chapter master I am gonna strangle them

[cloud egret]

my favorite chapter, i like their aesthetic.

[woven ember]

I will! And lets not forget Sister Agentha on that topic.. the 6 foot tall Battle Sister who was not augmented.. she scared everyone as well

[silver dune]

Ermmm acktewlly Tyberos is taller than Alexis Polux

[cloud egret]

yeah it's just funny you have this literal dwarf-pilled space marine who's so physically strong he can carry 2 hellstorm missile launchers

[young panther]

Also I remember claims of Alexis Pollux' height

but again just like the space shark chapter master

[cloud egret]

only 6 feet?

[young panther]

I cannot find reliable proof of it

[woven ember]

6 feet is tall for non augmented.. she had no bionics.. and still fought like a demon

[young panther]

the best I can find is he was somewhat taller than an astartes

[cloud egret]

oh i thought you were saying her size scared everyone i thought 6 foot was small for SoB

[young panther]

which is most of the time "this guy in particular is as tall as a primaris"

[woven ember]

Oh my bad. I mentioned it because of height being discussed but her not being augmented and being fierce is what scared people.. kind of hard to not notice her height though.. because a lot of the augmented BoS had a different measurement (of some kind)

[young panther]

what do you mean by augmented ?

Sororitas don't have modifications

[woven ember]

No bionics.. which was a thing for Inquisitors and other members of the Church

[young panther]

Yeah most sisters don't have any augmentations

[cloud egret]

he's about a head (or roughly 1 foot) taller than his terminators since terminator armor adds about a foot with the hood it means he's 9 or 10 feet tall

[young panther]

Is that mini size or in lore size ?

[woven ember]

sounds like lore because the Orks and other factions did say that the Beakies were tall (Beakies are what Orks call Space Marines)

[cloud egret]

lore size he's stated about a head taller than his terminator guard

it's really simple math to actually get his true height

[mild pawn]

remember hearing he was eye level with gulliman

[cloud egret]

that's pollux

[young panther]

yeah so he is about the height of a primaris

[mild pawn]

right

[young panther]

if those were firstborn

[cloud egret]

probably about a foot taller than your average primaris since they're 8-9 feet tall

since he's getting primaris'd there's a solid chance GW will go into the hype and make him actually primarch sized

[woven ember]

Its entirely possible.. Angelus of the Blood Ravens was depicted as being 11.5 feet tall

[young panther]

Terminator armor does not add a whole foot to your height

[cloud egret]

the hood is factored in

[young panther]

yes the hood does not add a whole foot

[mild pawn]

feet?

[cloud egret]

i was under the impression it did, my bad

[near cargo]

I wonder how strong the servitor skull is.

Like, arbites' dog is better that 99% of the playerbase

[young panther]

A terminator is only a couple inches taller than a space marine

if someone is taller than a terminator they are about a primaris in height

[woven ember]

To be fair.. part of the problem is that Darktide lacks a design to force players to be better. they can enter any difficulty and expect to be carried whether we want it or not

[cloud egret]

ah gotcha

[woven ember]

Yes so it why Angelus is considered an anomoly.. because he wasnt a primaris.. he was a Blood Angel

[young panther]

Angelus was a terminator

so his 11.5 feet get knocked down to the taller end of primaris

People have this big misconception

that the firstborn are significantly shorter or that primaris are significantly taller

when they have a rather big overlap

its just that most people in the imperium are fuckin short

[woven ember]

I think you are over reading it or trying to flex your knowledge which is fine I like talking warhammer lore but.. I am well aware he is a Terminus. pretty easy to see that even if the height depicted is the height of him in terminus that he is still tall for your average space marine

[near cargo]

Def feel vt2 does a better job @ forcing players to be good at the fundamentals than DT

[young panther]

I am just greatly annoyed by tyberos fans

who treat tyberos as a fuckin lost primarch

when yes tyberos is tall but he is not freakishly tall for a space marine

[woven ember]

Well I would like to think I did show that I am not a fan and I am pretty aware of the lore.. I even recognize that Fel is not the oldest Dreadnought in the universe. for the imperium he is the oldest

[young panther]

its like me standing next to my american friends

[cloud egret]

i mean even about 9 feet as a firstborn isn't that out of reality

[near cargo]

Which is weird cuz I feel like vt2's temp hp is far more forgiving than dt's toughness

[young panther]

I am 5'7 and they're 6 foot with a few inches usually

if i were to stand next to them

they would look huge next to me

and I would look huge next to our japanese friend

[cloud egret]

there still is the solid chance that GW just makes tyberos primarch sized because of the hype lore

asterion moloc i think is actually about 10-11 feet tall tho

[young panther]

You can play through an entire round of vt2 with only temp health and not go down so... yeah i agree on that one

I dunno much about asterion moloc

[woven ember]

That is possible too.. GW's care for the lore was brought into question over the Henry Cavill incident

[young panther]

Henry Cavill incident ?

[woven ember]

yes.. when he signed on to make that Warhammer show or whatever.. GW wanted to sneak in a change he didnt agree with. hang on I will google it

[young panther]

Though at the same time now that I think about it

a lot of the primarchs are short for what one might expect

[cloud egret]

asterion moloc chapter master of the much revilved by other chapters minotaurs chapter he has been purpose built to be a monster with augments and whatnot, also i believe the minotaurs recieve direct orders from the high lords

[young panther]

at the same time they are still massive

[uncut cloak]

must be hell to go around your house when you are 8 foot tall

[woven ember]

Oh they wanted to change the gender of the Custodes for the show among other changes. Henry being a fan of Witcher and Warhammer said absolutely not

[uncut cloak]

lol

[near cargo]

I think vt2 does better at teaching fundamentals despite temp hp being more forgiving because the enemies there are actually threatening

[young panther]

they do work with the high lords of terra a lot

[cloud egret]

....so they did it anyway?

[woven ember]

Basically. So Henry said I am out. Everyone seems to think the show is dead in the water now

[near cargo]

And theres a WAYYYY better variety of enemies in vt2 than dt

[uncut cloak]

and maps

and weapons

[young panther]

Female Custodes were a big shake up

but many pieces of 'evidence' towards them not being canon are circumstancial at best

and well they are canon now 100%

[woven ember]

Either way.. it goes to show that GW will push even with people like Henry.. someone who previously pushed back on the Witcher TV show writers

[cloud egret]

i don't like it personally because it steps on the toes of the sisters of silence

[silver dune]

In The Unremembered Empire by Dan Abnett is where it mentions he is almost as tall as G-man but I can’t find the excerpt online, like a lot of stuff heights are inconsistent and everything is canon

[young panther]

How so ?

[foggy elk]

isn't the whole thing with Henry's show that he is head producer and gets the last word on everything

[woven ember]

No.. the agreement was he would get more freedom than his previous position at Witcher but when Amazon made that deal, they had no idea GW would pull that stunt

[coarse harness]

Eh, sounds like grifter rumors.

[cloud egret]

custodes and sisters of silence fit together like puzzle pieces right additionally the custodes were male only while sisters of silence were female only so that also kinda filled 2 roles

[woven ember]

Call it what you will. its what happened and likely now the only Warhammer shows will be fan made

[coarse harness]

I'm saying I seriously doubt it.

[foggy elk]

maybe they just wanted to stop all the "emperor is so gay he built himself a palace of pretty muscleboys to gaze at all day" memes

[cloud egret]

google says he's still involved

[young panther]

well yes they make up the talons of the emperor but sex was never a part of it
sure you could connect it that way but they are still the sworn protectors and harvesters of the great tithe

[woven ember]

Henry himself explained it in an interview.. so there isnt much left for translation after that. He explained the position he had and why he pushed back

[silver dune]

The evidence is the several times in codex they’ve claimed they come from the noble sons of Terran houses, people wouldn’t have an issue if GW didnt pull the “they’ve always existed since the first 10,000” when that’s patently not true

[cloud egret]

also the lore tidbits of the female custodes just didn't make sense

teleporting inside a void shield, one of them DIRECTLY violating the rules of the "game" custodes do every now and then and the whole re-entry bit

[foggy elk]

maybe all the female custodes are Kairos fateweaver in a wig

[silver dune]

Brotherhoods are no longer allowed in the modern age, women MUST be given access

[young panther]

yeah thats one small piece of text and the only thing people could really bring up that had any merit

[silver dune]

It’s a pretty important piece of text

It’s only a “small piece of text” making female Astartes not possible too

[woven ember]

Whatever the cause.. I just hope GW stops pulling crap. It would be better for the Warhammer universe in general (Darktide as well )

[young panther]

Honestly I feel like what GW fumbled with is just not going about the change better

[cloud egret]

true,

the lore tidbits of the 3 added just didn't make sense

[young panther]

even the "always existenced since the first 10k" could have been fine

[silver dune]

They could have actually tried at implementing them in a lore friendly and understandable way

[young panther]

I would argue it makes more sense for the original 10k to include some women than later recruitments

later recruitments could be argued that the noble houses of terra refused to send their daughters and only sent male heirs

[silver dune]

With such massive losses during the Horus heresy and war in the webway, Belisarius Cawl with the sanction of the Emperor was able to create female custodes to supplement the ranks of the 10,000

There you go GW took me 20 seconds to fudge something together

[young panther]

It kinda clashes with the bespoke part of the custodes but yeah

[silver dune]

You don’t refuse the emperor

[foggy elk]

Only custodes know the method to create new custodes and they don't like admech stepping on their turf

[cloud egret]

that woulda been better

[young panther]

The emperor ain't exactly around for the later recruitments is he ?

[cloud egret]

still could've just made it that way

[silver dune]

He’s senile but he talks sometimes

[foggy elk]

If only he some kind of text to speech device

Damn, that'd be a good show

[woven ember]

thats most of them though.. a lot of space marine chapters do not trust the Admech/Mechanicus.. and they would rather avoid them but their leaders tell them you got to live with it

[young panther]

his senile fractured old ass stands up from the throne
" OH THAT BITCH DID NOT JUST SAY NO ! LEMME AT EM TOOL {guilliman}."

[cloud egret]

tbf techpriests can also be complete assholes to everyone non-mechanicus

like one techpriest calls everyone pre-servitors in darktide

[foggy elk]

is he wrong?

[woven ember]

dont forget Hadron telling you to not do drugs while at the Carnival as well 😛

[mellow storm]

depends on what you mean. The Emperor as in the psychic warlord that created the primarchs et al is basically dead at this point and not doing much of anything.

The Emperor as in the god the Imperium has spent the last 10,000 years slowly birthing though? He's definitely around

[young panther]

Tech priests are assholes and thats why we love em

[cloud egret]

i mean, depends entirely on if the punishment is worth it

[silver dune]

True so their genewrights or whoever they got down there now cooking em up got Big E’s thumb of approval

[young panther]

Considering the custodes process is more bespoke I honestly could see it being a more sex agnostic process

the space marines are somewhat quick and dirty by comparison

[woven ember]

If you really want the biggest a-hole.. talk to the Tech Priest in Warhammer 40K Inquisitor Martyr.. That tech priest literally responds to you with "Attempting to load empathy module. Failure to load" after saying that using Humans as test subjects for Daemonhosts is wrong.. so

[young panther]

hell their failure rates speak to it

[foggy elk]

It is literally only one chromosome

[mellow storm]

the whole custodes thing is meant to be personally customized and finetuned for each individual

[young panther]

Okay but he is a funny asshole so he gets the pass

[silver dune]

Testosterone is probably the most important chemical when it comes to the process that’s why all the female custodes look like Chad Thundercock

[foggy elk]

maybe it's because the emperor standards for female perfection are so much higher
his female custodes need them THANGS out

[woven ember]

ok but still.. responding like that AFTER an inquisitor says they are disturbed by the Daemonhost tests..

[young panther]

Stacy Thunderfanny

[mellow storm]

tbh, I just operate on the assumption that the Emperor is a bronze age warlord. And Conan types tend to have opinions about women and warfare

[young panther]

The Last Church did lasting damage to the The Emperor's character xp

dude went from warlord to redditor

[woven ember]

Or look at any of the Battle Sisters.. JS. Though I have to wonder how much it would suck being around a SoB while she is on that time of the month

[cloud egret]

apparently the writer for that sent a copy of the book directly to richard dawkins and later declared the emperor as the correct one in that exchange

[silver dune]

Big E is just thousands of shamans in a trench coat

[mellow storm]

that sounds like something someone made up on 4chan years later tbh

but it's not impossible

[cloud egret]

look if it is, pretty good bit. if it is true however what the fuck?

[young panther]

Considering they can bear children

I feel like they have to have some kind of protocol for as I like to call it "the fire brigade"

[woven ember]

omfg lol.. or "call the arbites for containment"

[young panther]

"Call the arbites for containment, the blood angels are coming"

aka
"Bitch bring me some pads, its my period !"

[woven ember]

"And attract a few dozen Orks so they punch someone other than us"

[young panther]

Thats how sister of battle raids happen

God if SoBs ever get added

people will be ruthless with the stupid jokes

[woven ember]

I would be more scared of what people would name their SoB's in Darktide than the Arbites or Skitarii combined

[silver dune]

I’d name mine Alexis Texas

[woven ember]

and it begins.. In some ways, I would rather be in the shoes of Archmagos Emmisaurius than deal with that. She was the Mechanicus who had to tell Guilliman that they woke the Necrons up.. yes very bad day for her

[young panther]

Anyone who has to tell Guiliman something is having a bad day

[wheat timber]

People have been naming their zealots "Sister (X)" since launch

We literally have their generic bob hairstyle

[woven ember]

Yes but that is tame in comparison to what we can expect to see if they had actually put that class in

[wheat timber]

How much time have you spent in the zealot channel? They're anything but tame lmao

[woven ember]

oh I have seen MUCH worse in the Arbi channels

[wheat timber]

Now if they added repentia...yeah we're all lost to the void

[young panther]

I feel like if fatshark keeps it up most DLC classes will be of higher standing ]

I mean tecehnically hive scum is higher than the rejects on the peckin order

not by much but you know

[silver dune]

After the campaign all the rejects are members of the warband and technically part of the inquisition so we’re all on even footing pretty much

Minus the Arbites and Skitarii who are independents

[jagged marten]

i dont think theyll do sisters considering theyre gender locked

or somehow make the men able to play as men under arms

[silver dune]

Perfect time to introduce the misters of battle

[young panther]

I mean

Ogryn are gender locked

sure that one has other reasons for it

but

Only male Ogryn
No gender option Skitarii

[silver dune]

Ogryn are super protective of their women is all

[jagged marten]

thats a basegame thingy

[wheat timber]

Ogryn was a launch class, their design ethos hasn't necessarily stayed the same at all

Shut up Yam

Get outta my head

[jagged marten]

the fact that skitarii are blank means they dont want to do that again

[woven ember]

After reading that.. I was reminded of the Archer episode where he got a robot girlfriend

[jagged marten]

they couldve made the skitarii men like theyre usually presented

[woven ember]

I sincerely doubt that because Fat Shark has had more complex designs.. War of the Roses featured the most realistic armor of that games time

[wheat timber]

Realistic looking

It did nothing gameplay-wise

The rest of the game was also...not good

[woven ember]

Oh it did.. if you went full plate mail.. it took effort unless they were dumb enough to not have a visor in which you Windlass'ed that face

[frail verge]

I bet skitarii aren't going to have the whole body choice thing beside maybe changing height.
Just gonna be a copy paste skitarii with a personality of choice

Only cosmetics will change your appearance

[wheat timber]

War of the Roses didn't have enough time in the oven before it launched, and it was so quickly shot out back that it never got a chance to really get good

[woven ember]

as long as they dont have the personality of the a-hole tech priests I am happy

[wheat timber]

I think the Hadron cosplayers absolutely want the hoity toity mechanicus personality with at least one voice lol

[woven ember]

While true.. War of the Roses was sadly in a lot of ways more advanced than Darktide

[wheat timber]

I figure for the four we'll get something along the lines of

Generic Male (trailer voice)
Generic Female (Hadron cosplayers)
Mixed M+F Personality (Fallout 1 Master)
[Binaric Screeching] (with subtitles)

[frail verge]

I need a tech pervert personality

[wheat timber]

Darktide needs to let me waste the entire match couch lancing heretics smh

[young panther]

I hope the last one is available xp

[wheat timber]

The last two are going to be my crack

[woven ember]

Ahaha.. good luck with that.. as I am an Arbi. we dont die easily 😛

[narrow nebula]

Iirc
We can use reject title on hive scum
But not on arbiter

[young panther]

I feel like most Skitarii players are in 2 camps

Hadron cosplayers
The real robot enjoyers

[wheat timber]

https://tenor.com/view/wut-nani-gif-25387499

Im checking this rn wtf

That's hilarious if true

[frail verge]

It would be cool for skitarii to get a cog title

[wheat timber]

Holy shit you're right

[woven ember]

on Nani.. you know what I realized? Fat Shark is a lot like Majima construction from Yakuza game.. this guy

When asked how to build stuff in the game he says "Google it"

[remote scroll]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1480796079027912794/1502113487256682687/ezgif-395a166e2e34663d.gif

[wheat timber]

Sometimes I wish I could do that

[young panther]

Majima leading anything sounds like a disaster

[woven ember]

lol.. wait until you see the scene where is asked to defuse a bomb.. I dont think I need to explain that one 😛

[wheat timber]

Goro is a very trustworthy individual

My sources (him in a costume) say so

[young panther]

https://youtu.be/ZN5Re0_gY2w?si=Xc2qQsmqU_DEsLoF

wtf

[frail verge]

Except a pirate crew

[remote scroll]

i need to continue yakuza

[woven ember]

Ahaha.. that is what I picture when a new dev has to deal with Darktide Spaghetti code 😛

[remote scroll]

i played yakuza 0 then started yakuza kiwami and went yeah no im playing something else

its literally identical in gameplay im taking a break

[sleek widget]

Best strat

[young panther]

Majima I swear he is a psyker but man is he terrible at being one

[woven ember]

Majima is distracted by Kiyru Chan obviously 😛

[young panther]

nah nah nah Kiryu-Chan is his beloved its what keeps him from falling to chaos

we do not want chaos majima

it would be one hell of a tzeentchian mfer

[frail verge]

Like a dragon are fun Yakuza sequel with a jrpg play style

[worthy knot]

I LOVE

ALCOHOOOOOL

[remote scroll]

i am actually more of a fan of jrpgs than the yakuza beat em up style

[woven ember]

No.. more like he would make Tzeen blush 😛

[remote scroll]

but it feels wrong going straight into like a dragon instead of playing the prior games first

[young panther]

Them tentacles are gonna be turning slaneeshi pink

[woven ember]

Total War has a Pink Fire ability.. wonder where it came from 😛

[young panther]

Pink Fire is great

The damage is so so

but its such an easy spammable on kairos and the lords of change

[woven ember]

heh.. well between that and purple fire.. they can make it look like a bad disco rave 😛

[young panther]

Fr Fr

I remember when I was playing against a friend

they went skulltaker

with a bunch of khorne daemons thinking Tzeentch will be an easy W

they picked a specifically chokey map

. w .

https://tenor.com/view/changeling-warhammer-fantasy-enemy-within-heinz-gif-10328647871044336275

Army of pinkies, flamers of tzeentch and a changeling

He did not expect a sudden skarbrand

Skarbrand helped by flamers of tzeentch absolutely melted his horde xp

and since he chose a chokey map he had no recourse but to retreat

which only bunched up his army more

[woven ember]

oh nice! I am not sure if you have seen the recent Warhammer league but when I read that, I was reminded of the hilarious match of High Elves vs Khorne. one poor person had their Skull taker chased around by Tyrion.. absolutely demonic bullying

[young panther]

Skulltaker is very bulliable

at least in comparison to skarbrand

[woven ember]

true but this was BAD.. Tyrion literally chased him to the tree line near his spawn. I will see if I can find it

Oh here.. I linked it about a minute before. you can already see Tyrion rushing by this point.. bro was laser focused on that Skull taker https://youtu.be/a-FnKkBezAo?t=157

[young panther]

LMAO

"Come HERE BOI !"

Man fantasy elves

[woven ember]

and him just back away like "lol I grabbed that booty"

[young panther]

Skulltaker violated in the first seconds and then Tyrion comes back for more xD

got that ass slapped twice

[woven ember]

lol.. bro went in for 3rds after that one. bullied hard

[silver dune]

Only good elf is a dead elf

[woven ember]

ahaha.. well its clear Khorne couldnt do that.. bro got bullied

[jagged marten]

bro what tdey hell

ok so

kiwami 1 was the first "modern" yakuza game that uses the kenzan engine

then came yakuza 0

so you have yakuza 0 thats just better kiwami kiwami 1 thats the first "modern" title

then you have kiwami 2 which uses the dragon engine

then yakuza 3-5 which are older

then yakuza 6 which is the first game to use the dragon engine

and then like a gradon and infinite wealth with turn based

[uncut cloak]

uhh surely kiwami 1 came after

yeah it did

[autumn stone]

yeah i thought kiwami came after 0

[jagged marten]

nope

kiwami came before yakuza 0

[uncut cloak]

kiwami, release date 2016

[jagged marten]

yakuza 0 2015

[uncut cloak]

yakuza 0, release date 2015

uhhh

do we agree or disagree

[jagged marten]

wait

im a fucking idiot

i genuinely thought 0 came after kiwami 1

[uncut cloak]

nah , you can see it from the fact kiwami 1 is literalla 80% copy paste

[dreamy echo]

Do we know what time the class releases?

[uncut cloak]

should be like 6 PM CET

i think

[dreamy echo]

The evening?

Maaaaan

[uncut cloak]

depends where you live

but i think that's the standard, yeah

[dreamy echo]

So it’s at noon ish

[uncut cloak]

if you are in NA yeah around that

[dreamy echo]

I wonder what the customization will be like for the character creator.

[twin wasp]

There better be lots of little mechanical doodads and trinkets

[uncut cloak]

i wouldn't expect too much

[dreamy echo]

Do we know what the deluxe skin looks like yet?

[boreal reef]

Yes

[uncut cloak]

isn't it on the store page

[dreamy echo]

I couldn’t tell

It looked like the same outfit in the first cutscene

[pastel raven]

class out yet?

[uncut cloak]

tomorrow

[pastel raven]

im avoiding turning my pc on yet because of the heat

[uncut cloak]

(one month)

[pastel raven]

wait i thought it cane out on the 23rd

crying

exploding

[uncut cloak]

yeah, june 23rd

[pastel raven]

end me

[dreamy echo]

I thought it came out today.

[boreal reef]

later

[dreamy echo]

I saw 23rd and thought today

Too bad that.

[boreal reef]

Time to eat the powder that makes you say "skitarii in 1 month"

[vast hound]

https://tenor.com/view/peter-griffin-but-i-want-it-now-gif-26307521

[rocky willow]

Real apparently i can't read lmao

[near cargo]

I dont care if they delay his release

I would rather he be released in a good, non-buggy, and well balanced state than be a buggy piece of doo.

Arbites had quite a few nasty bugs at release

[dense solstice]

The bleed bomb was fun tho

[near cargo]

I remember walking through a mission while holding block the whole time (just tagging stuff with dog) and still leading the whole team in damage by a mile

[dense solstice]

I knew it wouldn’t last tho

That was waaaay to busted

[near cargo]

IMO it was the strongest a char has ever been in any tide game

No contest

[dense hamlet]

Definitely

I never thought that I would get that take no damage penance without actively trying to with a full squad

But I got it in a random mission with release Arb

[subtle dragon]

Post cognitive assessment designation: capability insufficient for redeployment as latrine-operating servo skull

[cloud egret]

OH MY GOD IT'S SO GOD DAMN COOL

[uncut cloak]

that's good

because it's the only cosmetic you'll get

[cloud egret]

premium shop:

[uncut cloak]

dlc classes be like

nah we don't do that here

[cloud egret]

tho they still do have a premium cosmetic

[uncut cloak]

yeah but they are ass

[cloud egret]

no, trench coat arbites goes hard

[jagged marten]

i can notice which people are european because theyre complaining about the heat lol

28 goddamn degrees celsius

[noble slate]

thats low

[late veldt]

28?

[lime mauve]

Something about how more Europeans are killed by heat every year than Americans are killed by guns

[gaunt canopy]

Most European houses are very well insulated, contain the heat, and have no AC

[serene totem]

Whats soo good about skibidi class? I dont know anything about warhammer lore. What can they do that gonna be different from other classes we has? Do we get more energy weapons? Or are they like physker but with bullets instead of spells?

[foggy elk]

instead of penis, they have robot

[serene totem]

Cyberpunk 2077 showed this is a bad idea

[twin wasp]

Robot drone people with like lightning weapons and radiation guns and such. Also theyre religious and worship windows xp

[serene totem]

I mean windows xp is basically god of operating systems

[wind latch]

Heresy. It’s [Skittarii] Varlet not the brainrot nurgling spawn.
Skittarii get Galvanic rifles, Arc/Plasma weapons and Transonic blades. Expect faster movement, augmented sight and the lot. Extremely augmented. The version we get to play is the Alpha Primus. Who are especially lethal for Skiitari

[wintry musk]

Whats Skitarii about?

[silk arrow]

admech storm troopers

energy weapons n the swords from dune

[wintry musk]

So glass canon like the meth heads or can take a beating due to metal limbs?

[heavy citrus]

Cool cyborg mfs who use cool pew pew stuff

[silk arrow]

basically the tin man from wizard of oz with a big gun that goes swooom

[wintry musk]

Are the red robes dlc?

[silk arrow]

I am sad they didnt go with tech priest, skitarri or a bit boring just astra militarum but adeptus mechanicus

[heavy citrus]

Theirs guns go pew pew and their melee goes wooosh

[wintry musk]

Why did the Adeptus Mechanicus send people?

[heavy citrus]

Cause they were bored

[silk arrow]

im curious about why they sent skitarri too

it seems like more of a narrative jump that just having tech priests come to aid the retinue

[wintry musk]

Probably whiffed the smell of lost tech on Atoma

[silk arrow]

yeah something like that

probably some old stc on atoma

[heavy citrus]

They did introduce a mode where u look for tech remnants sooooo