skitarii-class

[uneven dawn]

Imperial guard are either middle aged autistic history nerds or racists

Depends on if they play cadians or kriegsmen

[storm mountain]

Or both

[young panther]

Is there a difference if they typically have a swastika on ?

[uneven dawn]

Dream fit

[uneven dawn]

Just because i am a guard player and i don't feel very naziy

[young panther]

Fair

[dense solstice]

The pope’s space crusade

[young panther]

White Skitarii do look good

Purple looks even better but noncanonest of noncanon

[dense solstice]

I dunno why but the more I look at their helmets

The more they start looking like Altyns

[storm mountain]

Me cornering the CEO OF James Workshit to give me more cosmetics:

[karmic verge]

Would be such a shame if they shadow droped skitarri right now

[uneven dawn]

Why

[storm mountain]

Be funny

[karmic verge]

So i could play it

[uneven dawn]

Live dom reaction

[dense solstice]

Robo pope

With the pimp cane

[uneven dawn]

Nooo it's forge world metalica

They canonically make their weapons extra loud

And converted their entire planet into a big metal sphere

This is all Canon Google it

It was hard to choose between them or forge world Stygies-VII

[dense solstice]

Wait

The Death Star exists in 40k

[uneven dawn]

Multiple

The closer analogue would be the Gaian crown

A planet sized space station that circles around a planet like a big halo ring

[dense solstice]

You know

I dunno why but it just occurred to me that

How the hell do these people like

Eat

Or go to the bathroom

Do they even sleep?

[uneven dawn]

Eating is inefficient

[neat laurel]

no need

[uneven dawn]

Skitarii hunt for weeks on end without rest or food

Because they probably drink like oil

[dense solstice]

[uneven dawn]

Sleeping is also inefficient

[dense solstice]

But like they’re still human under all that metal

[uneven dawn]

Some human bits

Like torso and face

But like. If the flesh withers and dies just replace it

Also your more likely to be shot and killed than survive long enough to need replacements

This is still 40k

Dark and griddy etc

[dense solstice]

Is this like a ship of Thesis thing

[uneven dawn]

The goal of every skitarii and tech priest is to replace as much as possible with metal

[dense solstice]

Is the brain there atleast?

[heady aurora]

its supposed to be, but they definitely push it past that into full mechanical

its one of the reasons servitors are a big thing in the imperium, you just mind wipe a human brain and turn it into a computer

its not AI, but has similar uses

[young panther]

It's not exactly a mind wipe

Servitors need to retain a certain level of clarity based on purpose

It's more of a memory scramble

[heady aurora]

yeah, its grim dark all the way for sure

[young panther]

The medicae stations are fully conscious due to issues with their mind scramble

The medicae has to be a bit more aware than your average servitor and they haven't been properly maintained (mind scrambled) due to the heretics

[heady aurora]

or it could be a result of the warp tapping into latent psyker abilities they had before the scramble

not high tier ones, but just enough to give them awareness

[young panther]

That too happens to servitors

But given we haven't seen a daemonhost medicae

It's probably not psyker shenanigans

[heady aurora]

well psyker powers have a massive level of scale, with most psykers being very very minimal things like slightly better luck or improved senses, not actively utilized as a warp ability but just nudged along subconsciously into reality via latent potential

hope we get a bunch of ogryn interactions with skitarii because of the bone-head implant and other overlapping intrests(tanks, big guns, and trains)

[storm mountain]

“SKITARII ARE RACIST TO ABHUMANS!”

“I am quite fond of locomotives.”
“LIKE TRAINZ!”

“Yes, like trains.”

[heady aurora]

accidental binaric translations by ogryn

[acoustic dagger]

Appreciation for trains is appreciation for Omnissiah's grand design ✅

[heady aurora]

like an open walkie talkie picking up radio waves

[uneven dawn]

On Mars the trains will run on time

[dense solstice]

I sense a German metro joke

[rose spoke]

guys what is good build for sketare give pls

[silk lantern]

none

[near cargo]

Bro THIS is the class I've been waiting for

Should have been the 1st one but I'm glad they got around to it, with it being the 3rd one hopefully that means its the best designed one 🤌

[golden marsh]

31 days till skitari

[heady aurora]

the tree layout is interesting, hopefully the branches are not to bloated so we can gain many cap stones

instead of having to pay heavy node taxes

hell, just make the tax nodes more interactive based on how they land between the differing path focuses

[fair rose]

So what's the best skitarii build?

[subtle lynx]

Whatever buffs the servo skulls the most

[heady aurora]

we dont know yet, hypothetically we have a melee focused build, a marksman build, an arc status build, and a servo skull command build

servoskull command is probably going to be strong if it has team utility baked in

think taunt ogryn, voc vet, bubble psyker, relic zealot, all of which are very strong because they make the team more resilient

[fair rose]

Right right

What do you think the melees will be like?

[near cargo]

Transonic Blades! Yeet. Look em up

It wont let me send a pic

I'm SOOOOOOO hype

[fair rose]

[fair rose]

Ooo so like really good anti-armour stuff?

Sounds a lot like power swords ngl

[jagged marten]

vibrates at a specific frequency to cut through material

it searches for the right frequency and then cuts through armor like its nothing

[heavy citrus]

release a class with anti armour loadout after nerfing carapce spawns

[light hornet]

https://giphy.com/gifs/star-wars-galaxy-of-adventures-7xQxrDSCuGCEIDqJK0

[jagged marten]

if you stand near the blades you can feel your bones vibrating

[near cargo]

I'm sooo glad they got a unique skill tree too!

I was really worried that when they made a adeptus mechanic class that itd wind up as a ranged focus class... but the fact you can dive right in to 3 dramatically different playstyles is 🤌

[fair rose]

I hope we get the blade one and the razor one so we can have a sword and dagger type weapon

[jagged marten]

the transonic sword and knife are most likely a paired weapon

[heavy citrus]

there's isn't a single range focus class in this game tbh
pretty much every class has a melee build

[fair rose]

Also "stiletto-swift weapons"

[olive yew]

Already confirmed with the deluxe edition

[near cargo]

Nah youre right, I just mean for example that someone classes have more support for certain aspects of the game than others

[fair rose]

Skitarii wear stilettos, they are NOT beating the femboy allegations

[heavy citrus]

most dogshit forced meme ever

[near cargo]

Like Arbitrator has a ton of melee support and not as much ranged support as Vet, fe

I'm incredibly hyped for this

[olive yew]

They already don’t have a gender option

[dense solstice]

I mean that Arby shotgun can shoot the nuts off a squirrel 100m out if you build it right

[olive yew]

The irony of them being nonbinary is funny

[light hornet]

sword and dagger weapon is long overdue tbh.

Same with polearms, I want some spears, halberds, glaives etc.

[near cargo]

Oh for sure

[fair rose]

10101010111 type shit

[olive yew]

Do you get mad that the twin linked stubber is referred to as Twink

[wraith hinge]

Wait, what do you mean?

[olive yew]

Also Skitarii should get access to the twink

[wraith hinge]

Did I miss some lore

[olive yew]

There be no gender option. We admech

You can tune the voice up or down and there’s 4 personalities

[heavy citrus]

no because this one is funny

[uneven dawn]

Genitals are not combat efficient and are removed

[near cargo]

When game first came out I was a Psyker main. Played it for years before maxing out the other classes.

As soon as Arbites hit tho I've legit been spamming that, its by far my favorite. But yeah Adeptus Mechanicus is the one I've been wanting

[wraith hinge]

They should get fishnet stockings and thigh highs

[light hornet]

I do wonder how advanced the voice modulator feature is. I hope we can try and make them sound like battledroids or something lol.

[olive yew]

Also true

[wraith hinge]

I mean in the books they still refer to them as like women and men, they just don’t got bits n pieces

[olive yew]

Just like how space marines are technically dudes but they’re all asexual and mostly virgins

[acoustic dagger]

From how it was described I assume it's a slider that lets you change the pitch to be more masculine, feminine or androgynous

[noble turret]

For what legs

[dense solstice]

Don’t have time to bust a nut when you’re busting head open

[dense solstice]

Read the comment below

[noble turret]

I know what you are.

[wraith hinge]

The legs they’ll be walking on

[dense solstice]

The fuck is everyone’s obsession with wanting to play a humanoid animal

Wait nvm

Nvm

Nvm

[wraith hinge]

Lmao

[olive yew]

They’re chemically altered so they can’t

[dense solstice]

I forgot we have a sizeable furry population

[brittle mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/cut-it-out-dude-gif-7309611

[noble turret]

There's no flesh in them, anything you put on them'll just get shredded

[wraith hinge]

BAHAHAHAHA yeah that’s true

[wraith hinge]

And?

[heady aurora]

https://tenor.com/view/where-are-the-toasters-you-promised-us-40k-kitten-if-the-emperor-had-a-text-to-speech-device-bruva-alfabusa-gif-25065691

[wraith hinge]

Point being?

[dense solstice]

Speaking of

[light hornet]

Ah ok. Hope we can apply filters as well, like how some of the helmets and rebreathers do already.

[dense solstice]

How do mechanicus wear these long ass robes and yet

They never get caught in gears or anything

[acoustic dagger]

Idk we should ask them

[brittle mortar]

the machine god provides

[noble turret]

no exposed gears

and gear proof robes

[noble turret]

do you even think

[brittle mortar]

they got the extra slippery robes

nuln oil robes

[dense solstice]

Yap yap yap yap

[median yacht]

skitarii tomorrow

[jagged marten]

i drank all of the nuln oil

[uneven dawn]

It is imperative the mechadendrite is unharmed

[wraith hinge]

Lmao

[noble turret]

You only get to call me out when you have an intelligent thought ok sweety

[near cargo]

I mean, with it being a DLC class unfortunately it wont have great cosmetics I assume

[mystic schooner]

The Emperor Omnissiah protects

[dense solstice]

You eat raw meat

[light hornet]

stiltman.

[noble turret]

Still not an intelligent thought

[median yacht]

default will be drip anyway

https://tenor.com/view/now-this-is-epic-gif-14506125224309254566

[near cargo]

That said, I'm a huge fan of the default drip yeah

[wraith hinge]

We atleast need vanguard cosmetics

[light hornet]

The deluxe stuff already looks to be peak, same with the default skin.

[near cargo]

Yeah I'm hype af

[dense solstice]

Cash shop bucket helmet

[jagged marten]

ok so the vanguard helmet thingy people are posting is actualy an indigan praefect

[dense solstice]

That a shotgun he’s holding

[autumn sand]

Agrax earthshade never gets the attention it deserves

[uneven dawn]

Whos telling him

[jagged marten]

looks like it

[brittle mortar]

true. my bad.

earthshade was in my infernus marines starter set and it's a good wash.

[uneven dawn]

Babygirl
THE FIRST INDIGAN PRAEFACT MODEL WAS MADE WITH A KITBASH BETWEEN A GSC CULTIST AND A VANUAD

[uneven dawn]

GRRRTRRRRR

[jagged marten]

https://klipy.com/gifs/ok-ok-and-1--k01KS8CWTFAPW4BRDCM284WVPZQ

[noble turret]

https://tenor.com/view/la-manchaland-don-quixote-don-quixote-lcb-la-manchaland-limbus-company-gif-5416266550369442472

[dense solstice]

I yearn for the grievous spinning blades

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-droid-general-grievous-robot-general-grievous-gif-15512920

[autumn sand]

I love agrax as a DA player

[jagged marten]

5 billion servoskulls

[brittle mortar]

fidget spinners

[uneven dawn]

5 billion metal boys

[near cargo]

So wait, did I read correctly that the servo skulls can actually do the puzzles and shit for you?

[dense solstice]

Press your ult and turn a pack of ragers into floor slop

It would be cinema

[near cargo]

Like, instead of me doing the data terminals... the skull will do it for me?

[uneven dawn]

And it has a gun

[dense solstice]

This

[uneven dawn]

Servo skull with the blicky

[autumn sand]

They do one stage of it automatically I think

[dense solstice]

Omg this please

[near cargo]

I wonder if itll work like arbites dog?

[uneven dawn]

Probably yes

[acoustic dagger]

The servo skull will simply shoot the offending terminal, therefore solving the minigame instantly

[near cargo]

Like, if I get jumped on by a dog it blasts the fkr off me

[acoustic dagger]

Omnissiah commends this efficiency ✅

[uneven dawn]

Ogryn tech support skills

[near cargo]

I wonder if skulls will remove nets from trappers

[silk lantern]

hopefully not

[uneven dawn]

In case of technical fault, pull trigger until fault is resolved

[near cargo]

Trappers are legit the ONE special get me from time to time

[dense solstice]

Gotta instinctively dodge right every time

You hear the wind up

Even if it wasn’t aimed at you

[acoustic dagger]

Hopefully that will not be a thing

[wet ginkgo]

this is such a funny image

[near cargo]

Arbites is def the class that ignores the existence of specials lol

[formal pilot]

Poland skitarii

[noble turret]

Ourple

[wet ginkgo]

one special*

[acoustic dagger]

I like this alternative skill tree layout

[heady aurora]

most of the game becomes about reacting to audio queues mid combat without having to move your camera away, covering 2 sensory areas

[near cargo]

Wut?

You can take nodes that ignore toxic gas, can only take 50 damage tops, the dog will free you from muties and dogs, etc...

Shield can block gunfire

[wet ginkgo]

Muties were never the biggest threat

[formal pilot]

that's like saying hive scum ignores all specials because he can dodge

[wet ginkgo]

ogryn also has shield

[near cargo]

Where did I say they were?

[noble turret]

Mutants are a divine gift

[wet ginkgo]

you can avoid gunfire by keep sliding and take cover

[dense solstice]

BTL on muties is finnicky as hell

[near cargo]

Where did I say they were the only class with shield?

[noble turret]

Extricating you from the corner of death despair and molestation via grab and throw so you can die 2 minutes later

[jagged marten]

trappers

[noble turret]

Stars favor them

[jagged marten]

not a single class in the game can ignore trappers

[silk lantern]

50 damage is still a good chunk of your health gone even if it doesnt instakill

[proven storm]

thank god

[jagged marten]

genuinely

[wet ginkgo]

and bursters

[near cargo]

Ye, them and flamethrowers are the only 2 specials arbites doesnt have nodes for

[wet ginkgo]

when they stop working

[formal pilot]

not even walls, sometimes

[jagged marten]

imagine if the servoskull could free you from nets

[acoustic dagger]

We really do not need more gimmicks that let classes ignore disablers, it would set a very bad precedent

[wet ginkgo]

just shoots the net weakspots

[proven storm]

It may do dogs but that stupid ship has sailed by now

[dense solstice]

The good ole shove a burster and it falls towards you

[near cargo]

Bad precedent? The games been out for like 10 years dude

[jagged marten]

ogryn players constantly demanding to be able to free from nets and dogs

[heady aurora]

net just doesnt work on you as the charge is absorbed into your circuits and you shred through the fragile mesh

[proven storm]

ogryn players need to get better at the game

[near cargo]

Thats not the word you were looking for lmao

[noble turret]

(less than 4)

[acoustic dagger]

Work on your ragebait.

[heady aurora]

give it a 30 second internal CD or something boom

[silk lantern]

snipers and bursters doing 50 damage is still a good chunk of your health

[jagged marten]

im not even trying to be mean but its genuinely the lowest skill playerbase besides psykers

the consequences of rumbler

[silk lantern]

its just not an instakill anymore on havoc with true grit

[wet ginkgo]

arby:

[formal pilot]

zealots:

[noble turret]

Rumbler should occasionally jam if you fire it too many times in a minute

[acoustic dagger]

Does arbites follow at a close 3rd then

[fluid vigil]

Huge diff between a good ogryn and one that gets carried by ogryn's mechanics

[proven storm]

I've often made jokes that ogryn mains dont understand what weaknesses are and think they're actually bugs that need to be fixed

[noble turret]

Bonus points if the jammed shell detonates

[silk lantern]

they did nerf street tough to not work on dogs

[near cargo]

Ye as an arby main... it is the lowest skill imo

[jagged marten]

not talking ease of use of the class

but personel skill

[acoustic dagger]

Oh gotcha

[fluid vigil]

@jagged marten we are about to havoc 40

come

my son

[jagged marten]

okayyy

[acoustic dagger]

Yeah as a psyker main a lot of my fellow siblings are not good lol

Some are even godawful

[fluid vigil]

@jagged marten do you need true survivor

[jagged marten]

why are you asking?

you DO know ill eat shit right

[karmic verge]

this is true, the dog is disproportionally helpful to newer players combined with a high stagger playstyle and access to powerful defensive tools

[near cargo]

Psykers tend to be either:

1. Amazing

2. Absolute god awful dog water

And most are #2

[fluid vigil]

if you need it we can get it

[acoustic dagger]

You haven't played darktide until you have seen a havoc forged smyker smiting rinda karnak on h21

[near cargo]

There isnt another class that has that massive of a skill disparity as psyker

[fluid vigil]

@jagged marten strike team 50

[jagged marten]

again dont vc

[jagged marten]

should i play arby then?

[karmic verge]

ill allow it but only IF they scream unlimited power in the mic

[fluid vigil]

whatever you want

[jagged marten]

ill do fatmangus

[near cargo]

I love and hate playing with psykers cuz when played well theyre the best class in the game... but a ton of ppl play psyker and just spam smite and are completely useless when theyre required to actually play the game cuz theyre used to smite/assail carrying em through lower difficulties

[proven storm]

"You'll be getting true Survivor now.

Please do not resist."

[acoustic dagger]

At least fatshark stopped buffing scrier's gaze

[fluid vigil]

@proven storm join in if you want

1 spot open

[noble turret]

Do they know?

[proven storm]

I'm good gamer gotta eat soon

[near cargo]

Right? Laughed so hard when they buffed the inferno staff too

"Ahh, just what inferno needed. More damage"

[acoustic dagger]

If they buff it again I am holding you accountable

[haughty galleon]

just play without audio

[noble turret]

Shit

[heady aurora]

its not a negative, it just happens to be the ultimate end step of becoming proficient at the game play loop

I push when I hear the dog sound, dodge on nets and mutants, turn to look on snipers, grenades, and flamers

[haughty galleon]

Didn't say it was a negative. Said to just play without audio.

[heady aurora]

fair enough

[acoustic dagger]

Despite playing enough to have the poxbreaker title I still sometimes panic dodge snipers at the wrong moment

[near cargo]

With their unique skill tree I will just go hard on the melee tree and pick up some servo skull stuff.

[jagged marten]

@fluid vigil

[heady aurora]

snipers have the oddity of being a visual only dodge queue, if you hear the shot you are already to late. You have to dodge on the muzzle flash

[dense solstice]

Ain’t that some shit

[acoustic dagger]

I would probably have been just another heresy main casual if it weren't for my friends repeatedly daring me to play old aurics. That's been my fun zone ever since even though if the rest of the team is bad I start experiencing sensory overload from trying to manage too many things at once

[tiny flame]

Fs forums mf

[dense solstice]

Ima join his stream and tell him you’re his biggest fan

[tiny flame]

Ur not safe

I hardly remember him

Did he agree or disagree with me on inferno staff

[silk lantern]

who

[haughty galleon]

mm, anyone with TTV in their name has bad opinions automatically.

But it's the subjective bad opinions that change depending on who they talk to. A cursed fate.

[acoustic dagger]

True, neutralize ttvers on sight

[silk lantern]

what about someone with tttv

[little plume]

Plz not be as boring of a class as Vet 🤞

[karmic verge]

vet catching strays for no reason, despite the cover mechanic

[noble turret]

Does anyone even remember that that exists

[silk lantern]

"""mechanic"""

[uncut cloak]

The best cover is an axe to the face actually

[wraith hinge]

I don’t even know how to play bet properly

[silk lantern]

but yeah the vet disrespect out of nowhere

[dense solstice]

Shield and mace

[wraith hinge]

us

[dense solstice]

Let’s get the facts here

[silk lantern]

or a sword

[uncut cloak]

Imagine using a shield

Couldn't be me

[noble turret]

Melee things
Kill specials and elites

[dense solstice]

Not using two bludgeoning tools at once

The lack of motive is noted

[jagged marten]

Map cutoff points my beloathed

FUCKKKKKKK

[acoustic dagger]

Feels like I'm the only player who does it

[noble turret]

Probably cause it isn't useful

And you're suppression immune so you can just tank h40 gunners with exe and confirmed kill stacks

[acoustic dagger]

Oh I mainly take cover when psykering

Mostly for a second or two when I need to quell my trauma or voidstrike staff

And the pubs are ignoring shooters

[noble turret]

I thought they were talking about the ads cover peak

[acoustic dagger]

Ohh

Yeah I don't think I ever shot from cover except to try it out once lmao

It does suck ass for that sadly

[mellow gull]

you’d spend more time actually trying to get the cover peak to work than just, standing up and firing

[autumn sand]

I use it and then forget it only exists on vet and look like a fool when playing gun psyker

[acoustic dagger]

Chest high obstacles are just useless as actual cover

[acoustic dagger]

Yeah it's better to just dodge in and out of cover lol

[crystal token]

I use the cover peek on Vet sometimes just for the funny

You never get long to use it

[opal thistle]

it has some niche use cases for flamer assuming u know how to use them

[crystal token]

But it's like a funny flex on other classes

"Haha I can use cover!! I can peek out from cover!!!" and then you get back out to continue the dance of dodging, blocking and melee because this game was not designed to ever let you care about cover peeking

[frank wadi]

What's the name of that giant Skitari rifle? The long one, the Radium Jezail? We need it regardless!

[noble turret]

The emplaced one on the 60mm long base?

Transauric Arquebus

We probably aren't getting that, considering its taller than your character and requires its monopod

Argus this is my job

[dense solstice]

I know

But you can’t stop me

[frank wadi]

Pulling up with the Arquebus and blasting a reaper away

[noble turret]

It would be hilarious to have to pick it up and drag it around like a battery or something but that would get old real quick

[heady aurora]

I play all my humans at maximum shortness, so I can hide behind boxes sometimes and live through gunner fire

[uneven steppe]

is the skibidi class gona be all about woob woob and stuff

thats what it looked like in the trailer

a lot of electronic music

[autumn sand]

I feel like you're a Kin enjoyer

[heady aurora]

you know it lol

[autumn sand]

one skitarii running around blasting skrillex would be insanely funny

[heady aurora]

bardin main on VT

[round bough]

Has anyone thought of what they’re gonna name their mechophile?

[autumn sand]

Their what

[autumn sand]

Also, Hadron

just to spite the actual hadron

[void sorrel]

Skibidi Class

[round bough]

A person who gets aroused by machines

[austere comet]

I had to do a double take that I didn't stumble into Zealot chat by accident just now

[haughty galleon]

I guarantee you that skitarii-class is going to be on-par if not worse than zealot-chat once the class comes out.

[austere comet]

I was getting inklings of that, yeah

[noble turret]

Its going to be worse

At least zealot can kinda self moderate

This is just going to be unchecked crazy until it gets reigned in

[austere comet]

I mean, Zealot chat had to build up the self moderation through repeated cases of heresy

[noble turret]

Also hi quickpaw

[jagged marten]

Is havoc always this brutally difficult

[noble turret]

They did get there though
Thats the bit that matters

[austere comet]

Exactly

[heady aurora]

zealot chat last I checked was all cat memes

[haughty galleon]

well yeah of course zealot-chat had to get reigned in like 7 times after multiple eras of freaky behavior. Skitarii-chat won't have this character development which will be very fun.

[noble turret]

Or food

[austere comet]

if it isn't, we messed up somewhere

[heavy citrus]

murder all those who do the femboy meme

[noble turret]

Or whatever hordeslop is new

[heady aurora]

robot dance gifs everywhere

[jagged marten]

Just did the match with hamdol jesus christ

[lime mauve]

After banning a lot

[jagged marten]

Im never getting true survivor

[acoustic dagger]

eh it's just a title don't fuss it lol

[haughty galleon]

@fathom burrow I'm sorry you need to be murdered by this person for your prior crimes...

[jagged marten]

Im so happy rotten armor is gone

Also rare quickpaw appearance!

[proven storm]

rotten sucks yeah

[late veldt]

Zealot chat got slowmode

For like a month

[proven storm]

Well zealot chat ended up that way because of "the build"

zealots tree was so rough there was nothing to talk about so it devolved

[haughty galleon]

That's baby compared to the xbox release days and the initial chat behavior getting reigned in

[dense solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/really-snape-severussnape-allanrickman-harrypotter-gif-4661770

[haughty galleon]

incorrect, zealot chat has historically, outside of a few days after major releases, always talked about anything other than Darktide. If anything they talked more about Darktide during that trend due to complaining about buildcrafting.

[acoustic dagger]

Ever since I joined I've never seen zealot chat be anything other than genchat 2

[autumn sand]

Aren't most mechanicus fans feet lovers

[sudden pivot]

bruh what

[autumn sand]

look up hadron fanart and see how much of it involves feet dude

it's concerning

[dense solstice]

I swear sometimes being able to read the English language is a curse

[proven storm]

Quickpaw's gonna cancel the class at this rate

[sudden pivot]

I'm not interested or curious

the tree looks so fucking cursed lol

from the bit we saw

I'm excited

[autumn sand]

Being human is a curse

[dense solstice]

Abandon human

[autumn sand]

Is it as bad as hive scum tree

[dense solstice]

Return to crab

[autumn sand]

Return to mechanicus

[zealous eagle]

the tree looks funny

[sudden pivot]

it starts in the middle and flows outwards from what we saw in the trailer

lol

[autumn sand]

It's just a tradition for DLC classes to have awful skill trees

[zealous eagle]

it's cuz u can build into 3 very different skitarii ig they wanted to reflect that heavy

[late veldt]

Yeah that was when oggy chat got nuked right?

[dense solstice]

I thought it was 4 branching paths

[haughty galleon]

I don't recall when but that would make sense if it was near the xbox release.

[acoustic dagger]

you say cursed I say awesome

wheel and spokes tree looks cool

[sudden pivot]

being cursed doesn't make it bad

it just looks weird compared to what we have lol

[acoustic dagger]

🤨

[haughty galleon]

Looks like it in the skulls video.

[late veldt]

The cogman

[dense solstice]

I know you’re hiding secrets

I’m onto you

https://tenor.com/view/watching-you-observe-seeing-i-saw-you-gif-5740825

[haughty galleon]

Yeah that tree was for female ogryn obviously.

[late veldt]

I want to see the long-gun

[acoustic dagger]

Why did you have to spoil it like that

You breached the NDA.

[late veldt]

Also rip no omnissiahs axe

[sudden pivot]

well yeah

we're not a low ranking tech priest

[dense solstice]

Lies

[haughty galleon]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cats-explosion-explodes-cat-explodes-gif-10131775219258044191

[late veldt]

Indeed

[dense solstice]

Where’s the ogryn psyker

I know yall have it

[late veldt]

Was hoping for halberd in dt

[autumn sand]

I saw one post about fem Ogryn looking like a completely normal human but plus sized

[sudden pivot]

in necromunda after taking drugs

[autumn sand]

in reality fem Ogryn would look like a troll

[late veldt]

The reddit one?

[autumn sand]

which is why I want fem ogryn

[late veldt]

That I cursed lore chat with

[dense solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/hold-on-wtf-surprised-pikachu-gif-19719769

Speaking of necromunda

[sudden pivot]

brother doesn't know the drugs lore

[dense solstice]

It woulda been cool to get the Merc you play as in Darktide

But that shit woulda been beyond busted

[sudden pivot]

lmao

from fucking hired gun lol?

[dense solstice]

Ye ye

My mans has a LMG bolter fam

A fucking LMG

box mag and all

[late veldt]

You mean a heavy bolter????

[dense solstice]

No no

[autumn sand]

heavy bolt rifle?

[dense solstice]

It’s a bolter

But built like a modern lmg

Let me find the picture

[autumn sand]

Heavy bolt rifle

[late veldt]

Like the catechan dude has

[autumn sand]

Oh I was thinking of the Astartes one lol

[dense solstice]

No no no

Let me find a picture

[autumn sand]

Just when I thought Catachans couldn't get more swag

[late veldt]

They are all aura

[dense solstice]

Okay maybe it’s not a bolt gun?

Maybe?

[noble turret]

Wow thats just atrocious

Like

[autumn sand]

That's an autogun I think

[noble turret]

Everything going on there

[autumn sand]

swag

[noble turret]

No its a bolter in game

[autumn sand]

Is it???

[noble turret]

Hired gun as some really fucked up bolters

[autumn sand]

wow the size doesn't do it justice

thought the mag would be more fat

[dense solstice]

To be fair right

You’re some freakish cyborg

They’ve got a rotary GL aswell

[noble turret]

Being wired to the gills is high class imperial standard

[dense solstice]

Honestly I’m kinda sad scum didn’t get some of the guns

[autumn sand]

Is that a bolt pistol with a drum mag I see

[dense solstice]

Lotta potential there

[dense solstice]

Do you wanna see the whole line up of guns?

[autumn sand]

sure

[dense solstice]

Various guns with mods on them

[noble turret]

Its really just Some Bullshit

[round bough]

But of a Freudian slip there, aye bud?

[autumn sand]

4th gun on the first row is some bullshit Rannick would pull out on you

[autumn sand]

I am not a mechanicus fan

[round bough]

And yet you know about their foot fetishes

Sure thing pal

Secret’s safe with me

[autumn sand]

the subreddit is home to many

[lime mauve]

"Nooo you can't have anything slightly different from what is shown in tabletop models because GW won't heckin' allow it!"

[autumn sand]

it's like looking at the ogryn

you don't actually want to talk to the Ogryn having his rashun

you just have to watch them eating rashuns with slight disgust

[dense solstice]

I really do wish GW would allow some creative freedom to studios

[frail verge]

There is still plenty of time

[dense solstice]

Like at the end of the day all it does is draw more people in

And more people means more popularity and more money

[autumn sand]

GW are the type to cut your arm off for having a 40k tattoo

[lime mauve]

Really you'd think mechanicus fans wouldn't fetishize any particular body part because The Flesh Is Weak and any biological bits are liable to be replaced

[noble turret]

You see that would be valid if most of these didn't look terrible

[dense solstice]

I’m sure the real reasoning behind the strict nature is mostly contract agreements and whatever. Cause some studios can get away with unprecedented fuckery.

[autumn sand]

Reddit says otherwise lol

[acoustic dagger]

ok but who cares what reddit says

[dense solstice]

Gotta bargain better I guess to be allowed to do cooler shit

[haughty galleon]

There's far more depth to this than you'd think.

[lime mauve]

They are endless

[brittle mortar]

you'd be surprised

[dense solstice]

Damn near spit my water out

[brittle mortar]

AI models, for one, listen to what the reddit hivemind thinks about things a lot, and then regurgitates that information to gen alpha wanting to know what to think

[acoustic dagger]

Sounds like some sort of a... redditide. We gotta stem it.

Jokey jokes aside I do think it sucks that the site is lent so much credence when so much conversation happening on it is obviously molded by a desire to collect useless internet points

[lost perch]

counterpoint: bigger number = better person

https://tenor.com/view/cat-jam-stonks-stonk-jam-head-shot-hans-gif-21157324

[lime mauve]

Big Reddit is a cancer

Posts in small niche subreddits seem much more useful while also less prone to updoot-chasing, moderator power trip, corporate consensus-manufacturing, and posts from before ~2022 are likely to have been written by a real person

[silk arrow]

anyone playing mechanicus 2?

[autumn sand]

Are you describing reddit or twitter lol

[autumn sand]

Updoot supremacy

[silk arrow]

dang no admech fans fr tho

[lime mauve]

I'm just not a fan of the genre tbh, never could get into them

[silk arrow]

the darktide - warhammer fan gap is real

turn based tactics is the core of the franchise T_T

[acoustic dagger]

No but I am playing thru og mechanicus rn

I don't generally like tbs games but this skitarii stuff really piqued my interest

[silk arrow]

I did not realize how quick the new game was gonna drop, downloaded og and bought the heretek dlc. then relized new one was out n returned the dlc n downloaded 2 lmfao

[lime mauve]

I have like 3000 points of Imperial Guard circa 5th edition and I could not be fucked to actually play the tabletop again for literally 15 years

[autumn sand]

I bought Battlesector yesterday lol

the only reason I enjoy it is because I'm a huge XCOM fan

[silk arrow]

ur a realer fan than me, i could never fully invest into 40k tt

did run dark heresy as a gm a few times which was fun. cheaper too

[acoustic dagger]

My interest in warhammy begins and ends with the videogames tbh

[autumn sand]

I'm waiting for 11e to then finish up my DA army

yes, I shall abuse the same tactics

[jagged marten]

havoc draining away my life force

[silk arrow]

age of reckoning in like 09 is my entry point

[silk arrow]

how is that?

[lime mauve]

Having played Dark Heresy et al. it's especially hilarious/enraging when darktiders say "we can't have thing because it's not in the lore that we should be able to have it"

[elder sky]

I am, still in the prologue though. The combat isn’t as different as people say it is

[autumn sand]

It's alright

[acoustic dagger]

My entry point was a family member buying me dawn of war around that same time too lol

[autumn sand]

little disappointing that I can only play as Blood angels

but otherwise good

[silk arrow]

i actually found the first to be a lil slow it was tough for me & i love a methodical tbt

[jagged marten]

@fluid vigil how did i perform?

[warm pulsar]

ehhh

6/10

[jagged marten]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1507066489134383155/1507107256859230278/bulwark.gif

[warm pulsar]

https://tenor.com/view/hippo-dance-rat-dance-naked-rat-dance-naked-rat-rat-jam-gif-895067322878568988

[acoustic dagger]

live yamato reaction

[fluid vigil]

not bad but gotta work on positioning my boy

[jagged marten]

2 havoc 40s done since 2 years

[fluid vigil]

and special sniping

[haughty galleon]

First time I saw negative reviews on a newly released game and went "oh I should probably listen to these".

[fluid vigil]

on zealot get better at throwing knives

everything else is bait

[jagged marten]

i have immolate nades

[fluid vigil]

yes

they are bait

[jagged marten]

because i cant aim knives

[fluid vigil]

you have to learn

[silk arrow]

yeah to all the people regujatating FS blog post points about Skitarri reasoning when we have Pasqual at home & 3 decades of tech priests in strike teams blasting fuckers with plasma and meltas

[autumn sand]

You don't have to lead knives do you?

[fluid vigil]

if you want a actual pro tip

[jagged marten]

i could use knives properly if i could hold them like assil shards

[regal cobalt]

Oh no
Use stunstorms if you can’t aim with knives rly
Don’t use immo

[fluid vigil]

the main reason you can't aim your knives is because you don't have them on your mouse button

get multi bind

bind mmb to blitz

[jagged marten]

i have throw on m4

[fluid vigil]

and you can snipe with it

[silk arrow]

thats sick dope older brother moment

[haughty galleon]

imagine having a middle mouse button or side buttons.

[regal cobalt]

I use keyboard on them & its fine

[twin oxide]

Every single talking point about exclusive goods/troops fall apart at the seams when you factor in that we are literally on a rogue trader vessel

[elder sky]

Still recognisably mechanicus

[fluid vigil]

It's dogshit trying to ain with keyboard blitz while all your fingers are occupied

[twin oxide]

Who are famous for getting their fingers in EVERY PIE THEY CAN

[fluid vigil]

stunts your movement

[silk arrow]

mm pie

[fluid vigil]

your right hand does less work so put it to extra use

[jagged marten]

i wish knives had a killtag on weakspot hits humanoid

[pallid rock]

You do at longer ranges. They have a bit of drop and travel time.

It's pretty minimal though

[fluid vigil]

not having control over your mobility because you are trying to press knife button sucks ass

[acoustic dagger]

There is sense behind what hamdolsun is saying

[fluid vigil]

bind it to mmb with multi bind

[autumn sand]

Just curious, what do you use on that high a difficulty with zealot? relic blade or combat blade on crack?

[twin oxide]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1269057322882437331/1356469802385936474/hoprblelysmal.gif

[limpid fossil]

slimdolsun skill issue

[silk arrow]

damn did not know Skitarri had throwing knifes

[jagged marten]

so like tag and knife on the same button?

[silk lantern]

relic

[fluid vigil]

I don't use mmb for tag so I don't know

I have mmb on blitz

[silk arrow]

just press g dawg

[jagged marten]

no lmao

[autumn sand]

Just use a controller

[jagged marten]

i unbound throwables from my keyboard a long time ago

[silk arrow]

lmfao

[lime mauve]

Rogue Trader vessel rumored (i.e. confirmed) to have dealings with xenos, no less

[silk arrow]

immo grenades are fun too, live your best life gangster

[jagged marten]

aeldari corsairs no less

[fluid vigil]

immo grenades suck compared to other classes grenades so you become a drain on grenade economy

[dense solstice]

I’m ngl I dropped even believing we wouldn’t get the op troops once arbitrator dropped

[acoustic dagger]

I actually have mmb unbound because I do not like pressing it too much

[dense solstice]

At that point

Anything is on the table

[elder sky]

I actually thought I wanted to play the whole game with the lingua technis voice options, but then I realised they just reused the same sounds from the first game which felt kind of lazy. And the voice acting has some fun moments, with its own lingua technis for some characters like scaevola

[regal cobalt]

I guess i’m built different cause i was pogging

[acoustic dagger]

biggest drawback to zealot for me

[silk lantern]

theyre dogshit unfortunately

[twin oxide]

Those claimers look even dumber when you look at the Darktide lore snippets (including Hadron operating with some unknown intent doing secretive things)
And what we've been doing in-game in Expeditions
And what we've been doing in-game in Clandestium
And the fact that Hadron has a noticeable presence as more than just an average tech priest employee

[pallid rock]

Combo RT/inquisition command structure.
Literally have a permission slip from God saying they can do whatever they want

[regal cobalt]

It already does enough

[haughty galleon]

There are a number of options available depending on movement binds, the shift dodge space crouch setup you can just have blitz on like b or v, otherwise a bind that you can press while hitting a diff key (like shift dodge ctrl blitz, or s back x blitz as examples). I personally have it on b and don't drop movement or blitz presses while using movement.

[jagged marten]

not neccesarily

[acoustic dagger]

the grenades otherwise are fun tho, with zealot it just feels like a "too good to use" situation

[dense solstice]

Assassinorum is next on the list

Trust

[fluid vigil]

understandable, but as I said your right hand does way less work during a darktide match

[silk arrow]

they have a utility, find a way to capitalize and theres value. Obvi stun storms and throwing knife more ultiliarian, but when were taking zealot its not really for his blitz anyways.

[fluid vigil]

so it's better to give more tasks to your right hand

[jagged marten]

only a select few rogue traders have a written decree from the emperor with a drop of blood in the wax seal

[haughty galleon]

In my case I am a trackball user, so this is untrue.

[fluid vigil]

instead of occupying another keyboard slot

[fluid vigil]

that's fair

[warm pulsar]

I use those mmo mouse

[royal night]

She track on my ball

[warm pulsar]

and all my binds are on the side buttons

[gilded osprey]

theyre not for his blitz and theyre not for anything in fact

[dense solstice]

Jail time

[silk lantern]

what utility are you talking about

[jagged marten]

my knife is on mouse5

[silk lantern]

clearing poxwalkers?

[gilded osprey]

they're simply bad.

[regal cobalt]

Stunstorms save games
Under valued
When i want to kill a special i pull my ranged

[gilded osprey]

got worse with uncanny changes

[haughty galleon]

On-demand BBQ is a right of the people.

[jagged marten]

but yeah

havoc 40 very exhausting to play

[fluid vigil]

they are decent yes def better than fire nades

but knife allows you to use your secondary for non sniping purposes

so you can bring big horde clear while not sacrificing sniping

[haughty galleon]

It'll get to a point where you're on autopilot like lower diffs, just gotta keep playing.

[acoustic dagger]

I can only imagine lol, I tried havoc 34 a few times with some other ppl on here

[silk arrow]

Horde management & envrioment control. It basically is a hot lava space that director minions completely avoid if theres another path, effectively allowing you to corral threat into advantagous chokes. Basically a do not pass space, and anything fighting under it starts to allow for cheaper break points. If youre not running inf cleave team comp you can think about a immo nade on zealot.

[dense solstice]

It’s fun cause it’s the only real challenge left once aurics and maelstroms put you to sleep mid match

[regal cobalt]

Everything is better than immo… can’t be worse than the worst nade in the game

[haughty galleon]

To be honest if it's too too much then getting carried in H40 might not be the best way to learn, depends on the person though.

[royal night]

Alternatively you can throw knives at specials and magdump your mk3 bolter when shit is hairy

[silk arrow]

people wayyyyy to caught up in power gaming to think about these sort of techniques

[royal night]

Makes a lot of room and the splash damage is nuts

[regal cobalt]

Thats what melee is for

[jagged marten]

cleave

[royal night]

Plus you get many full clips of bolter and tknives have incredible ammo economy with the regen

[jagged marten]

i had to swap to mk3 evis just so i could get enough cleave

leave the bosskilling to others

extremely useful on voidshields tho

and i discovered that you can ignore captain shieldbreak pushing by using chastice mid revving when it breaks

[regal cobalt]

Use mk12 chainaxe

[acoustic dagger]

I notice a trend with some ppl to play and build their characters like they're playing a mmorpg and that's just wrong

having perfect stat sticks doesn't compensate for lacking basic action game sense

[dense solstice]

Well a lot of the better players who give tips usually play that way

[haughty galleon]

To be real a lot of the niche for-fun play seemed to fall off in popularity a long time ago. Couldn't even talk about doing random bleedinator-esque bullshit on Zealot's OG tree without getting told to run the path.

[dense solstice]

I mean are you really gonna take advice from someone who only plays the easy difficulty

Or are you gonna take advice from someone who regularly clears the hardest content

[jagged marten]

i like heavily play offmeta stuff lmao

[dense solstice]

That experience means a lot

[fluid vigil]

@jagged marten if you joined the vc

[haughty galleon]

Real pros use sauce.

[fluid vigil]

I could've taught you some stuff about the basics

[jagged marten]

hamdol i dont have a mic

[fluid vigil]

so you'd be more comfortable around highhavoc

[jagged marten]

i only have my phone

[fluid vigil]

no need for a mic

[acoustic dagger]

Your assumption is incorrect, I am talking about players who take that advice and just assume it is be all end all for darktide knowledge

[fluid vigil]

you can just listen

[dense solstice]

Yeah but I’m saying like

It’s easy to parrot things people say

But it’s better to explain stuff with experience

That way you can more properly answer questions to help others

[warm pulsar]

if yam used a mic you probably couldn't hear him over his clog shoes

[silk arrow]

right now more than ever there tons of horozontial space in the meta to play in. So much is viable and fun to bring into havoc 40. 9 months ago this wasnt really the case. I really only play party finder now bc its the best way to see that wild landscape of build crafting. Youd be surprised to see what can excell if given space in a 40.

[jagged marten]

hamdol is speaking listen and learn🗣️

[royal night]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1505946162878873792/RDT_20260518_1051012468730798630897557.jpg?ex=6a11bf28&is=6a106da8&hm=35284cdc5c95d7cc07198ea899a522f9dc376020c7e819d70fda8bced0c43d37&

[warm pulsar]

True

[haughty galleon]

I personally am an extremist in buildcrafting practices so that's usually what I try to push since fun stuff is fun. Difficulty only goes so high so if skill can bridge the gap anything works.

[tulip karma]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[warm pulsar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/604546680288837633/1290220639101255700/Untitled101_20220513202500.gif?ex=6a12065b&is=6a10b4db&hm=669c7dafec839152902249b02b89c542fced4f82007fc67e0a4f654374892851&

[tulip karma]

next class is gland warrior

[royal night]

Wide cat

[silk arrow]

I really need fatshark to add polearms asap man

these guys have some of the coolest weapons

[dense solstice]

I mean outside of some instances, advice from havoc 40 players is the most sound advice you can give

[cedar mortar]

skitarri-class more like hangout thread

[dense solstice]

@haughty galleon correct me if I’m wrong but isn’t a good chunk of this games balance centered around hav40

[tulip karma]

fr tho imagine a new berserker class and its gland warrior

[tulip karma]

it would be sick

[silk arrow]

power glaives plz?

[pallid rock]

If we aren't getting an omnissian axe with skit that dream is probably dead

[haughty galleon]

It's avoided when possible. H40 is meant to be difficult, not balanced.

[cedar mortar]

what the fuck is a skitarri

[silk arrow]

no cog axe is fking life ruining for this admech boi

LOL

[pallid rock]

I miss my merc gaming with halberd

[tulip karma]

problem is both havoc and the rest of the game has been balanced around chaos rather than manageable difficulty

[dense solstice]

But it’s still there in some capacity

[jagged marten]

Skitarii can use transonic halberds

[silk arrow]

https://tenor.com/view/tts-beep-mechanicus-gif-19305244

[silk arrow]

i will literally pray in binary to fking get this man

iswte

[tulip karma]

HEY EVERYONME

everyone

[jagged marten]

Hopefully new weapons soon for base classss

[tulip karma]

now that we got skitarri and a bynch of other shit

[dense solstice]

[tulip karma]

what other types of humans would you want for classes?

[warm pulsar]

Beastmen

[tulip karma]

i wanna hear the rest of the community

[cedar mortar]

if they never release the opportunity for proper self hosting and difficulty modding then yeah H40 getting easier is a bit sad

[haughty galleon]

mm, not intentionally to my knowledge. Obviously overperformers are going to be better for higher difficulties but based on what Fatshark says in like blogs and discord the bar isn't H40.

[warm pulsar]

right from VT2

[jagged marten]

aeldari corsair

[tulip karma]

too op

[dense solstice]

Fair enough

[jagged marten]

We literally have arbites

[tulip karma]

yeah and arbites are just guys in decent armor aeldari can go toe to toe with a space marine

[silk arrow]

my dream was getting a tech priest whod bring in meltas & plasma pistols for the rest of the retinue. not likely the way this is goin

[dense solstice]

Heeeere we go again

[willow goblet]

https://klipy.com/gifs/access-denied-warhammer40k

[cedar mortar]

skittari might be the last class for a while

[noble turret]

Get bug helmet in here

[silk arrow]

next up on my guess sheet is sisters of battle and assassins

[tulip karma]

did the server have a shit flinging contest over this?

[soft hazel]

none. i wan abhuman or xeno :)

[tulip karma]

see sisters of battle can work i guess

[acoustic dagger]

fatshark said no more abhumans period

[dense solstice]

We have this conversation about SMs on occasion

[tulip karma]

because its just basically space nun arbite

[jagged marten]

Da big coque

[dense solstice]

But space marines are not that unkillable as people make them out to be

[acoustic dagger]

but this convo isn't gonna go anywhere anyways, I'm gonna go back to playing mechanicus 👋

[haughty galleon]

gimme sister of silence acolyte and my soul is yours fatshark

[pallid rock]

Sisters would be fun but zealot kinda already does all of their gimmicks no?

[jagged marten]

Farshark said no ratlings

[silk arrow]

my guess is we end at 10 and likely next big update is some weapons n a map and after a new faction in gene stealer cultists whod basically be the beastmen from vt2

[dense solstice]

A guardsman with a plasma gun and good aim can drop a space marine like a tub of shit

A piece of fucking rebar killed a space marine

[tulip karma]

fr tho what would you think would work alongside the goofy ass cast that we have in darktide its mainly like normies in at most decent armor

[silk arrow]

totally different ballpark. like comparing hive scum to skitarri

[haughty galleon]

With my faint knowledge it'd be a Zealot Arbites mix in playstyle, so pants-shittingly busted melee class.

[tulip karma]

i think sister would just be a berserker

arbite zealot

[dense solstice]

Any genderlocked class more than likely will not be hitting this game

I’m saying that rn

[tulip karma]

cough cough ogryn cough

[dense solstice]

That’s an exception

[haughty galleon]

female ogryn stocks falling drastically...

[tulip karma]

playable inevitably

[pallid rock]

Ehh not really
Chainswords, flamers, bolters as the main weapons
Extremely devot
Melee centric

[tulip karma]

playable jakaero

your looking at the next darktide class

[dense solstice]

We’ve kinda got all the bases covered class wise to be fair

[tulip karma]

whether you like it or not

[jagged marten]

I genuinely think a xenos would bring alot to the game

[lime mauve]

Dan Abnett wrote this game

A dude could kill a Chaos Marine with a crossbow

[jagged marten]

Remember were on a rogur trader ship

[lime mauve]

But also one Space Marine could solo 3 of our missions

[silk arrow]

Sisters would likely be a warrior with emphasis on burning shit, shooting things with bolters, and access to miracles which would make them a pseudo caster. Think cleric versus paladin when were comparing it to zealot.

[tulip karma]

if we are doing xenos at all eldar would be cool but if anything i want a fucking kroot

[jagged marten]

And not even the inquisition shys away from hiring xenos as mercenaries

[tulip karma]

kroot would be sick as shit

[pallid rock]

Tau so the new skitarri can have catty back and forths with them

[tulip karma]

nah fuck those blue space commies

[silk arrow]

zealots are imperial cultists, sisters do not worhsip the same way they do.

[jagged marten]

Farsight enclave tau

[haughty galleon]

There's like, an inquisitional merc that Fatshark could do, lots of versatility or possibly a support class. But if Fatshark pulls that one out it's likely a sign that they're bankrupt in ideas. Our power tier restricts the cool ideas.

[pallid rock]

You are never going to guess which faction kroot belong to

[tulip karma]

yeah

[haughty galleon]

tau but the class costs $150 to simulate how rare they are

[tulip karma]

kroot dont exactly like them and they have worked freelance with inquisitors before

[dense solstice]

Where does the power scaling even land with us

[karmic verge]

Honestly zealot fits more a preacher and assassin kind of vibe with the shared aspect being the left side with the hyper aggressive melee playstyle.

A sister is more apt to have ranged talents and heavier weapons and be slow and more purposeful rather then a speed demon. Could obviously have an emphasis on miracles.

But despite all that i want an xeno class next not a sister

[jagged marten]

Malum caedo getting swarmed by 200 poxwalkers when thats light work for the rejects

[haughty galleon]

imperium-aligned human-tier with vague plot armor

[pallid rock]

Trying to unpack 40k power scaling is a path better not gone down

[dense solstice]

Does this mean we can unionize

[tulip karma]

only thing id want but they wont add for some stupid reason are ratlings

[jagged marten]

Personally blessed by the emperor

[haughty galleon]

Depends on the writer

[tulip karma]

would be cool to have a one shot rifle cleave based character that mainly dips into stealth

[lime mauve]

Humans are as powerful as the plot requires Emperor decides to make them

[haughty galleon]

Stealth zealot with manstopper slug shotgun

[silk arrow]

the entire retinue is highly skilled variants of the counterparts youd see just bopping around on table top. think of them as like a level 6 player character to a level 1 town guard

[dense solstice]

I was gonna say it’d be nice to have a western themed character but we kinda got that with skitarii and scum

[noble turret]

Ratlings are a confirmed no
Too short (unironically)

[tulip karma]

yeah but actual snipers or direct weapons built for cleave and more stealth on base we argued similarities with the other dlc classes all the same

[dense solstice]

Source: Short person

[tulip karma]

lame and gay i want my space bardin

[silk arrow]

boy I would love it if they added a short king. votan kin would be so fun to play as lol

[tulip karma]

fuck it squats

[lime mauve]

play a little hobbity sniper who is famously good at sniping and bad at melee

in a game where you are constantly threatened in melee and even normal humans on the short end of the slider can't fucking see

[tulip karma]

true

[noble turret]

Have fun staring at every 3 foot tall railing and pile of crates in the universe
As a sniper

[silk arrow]

pretty funny right

[dense solstice]

Aren’t Votann weapons ridiculously over powered

[haughty galleon]

My message has multiple meanings here, 1 that it exists sort of and 2 if a class gets made it'd have to mog agri railgun which is difficult to do without powercreep.

[tulip karma]

yeah true too

[karmic verge]

Especially in video games. Our feats and caedos feats are insane compared to what we usually see in novels.

Caedo especially outscales some primarchs in terms of feats. Not all of them tho (magnus and sanguinius and angron have titan kills)

[dense solstice]

That’s all we do around here is power creep

[silk arrow]

I wonder if they could do like imperial squats. they use a whole different host of tools that I think are ancient derivatives re imagined tools of their ancestors after being separated for thousands of years on various imperial planets.

a lot of that stuff is from like 3rd edition and sort of "retconned"

[haughty galleon]

Not if I have anything to say about it

[jagged marten]

they wont do another bardin perspective

[olive yew]

Kroot, Ork mercenary, Tau would be a stretch but funny, Votann, maybe a low ranking assassin

[dense solstice]

Failed space marine neophyte

Calling it now

[karmic verge]

Votann are giant AIs no way we get a votann class /j

[olive yew]

Meanwhile the compensation buff to inferno staff existing

[tulip karma]

might as well be a gland warrior

[noble turret]

Those are better refered to as corpses

[silk arrow]

Until this thing is done I'll be waiting for my sort kings reintroduction. just like total war warhammer one day my imaginary hobbit will come to me

[twin oxide]

https://tenor.com/view/truth-nuke-truth-true-soyjak-wojak-gif-14828627546768133163

[dense solstice]

Let me have my fun

[olive yew]

Pretty sure all those end up dead or as servitors

[twin oxide]

Call me crazy but the powercreep is slowly killing the game in a noticeable way That's why I haven't played in months

[silk arrow]

i get excited when ever I hear someone drop this one

[noble turret]

True!

[haughty galleon]

Compensation buffs are clearly just deals with the devil and the devil winning.

[tulip karma]

if you want somethiing similar it owuld just be a gland warrior basically the same but without all of the extra surgery and crazy shit that kills people when they cant handle becoming an astartes

[twin oxide]

Having an inferno staff on the team makes the game genuinely unplayable

[silk arrow]

just give us the cool inquisitorial astra militarum gear dawg

[olive yew]

Their reasoning was just too funny ngl.

[dense solstice]

So a rager but with roids and no chaos

[tulip karma]

because it would actually be a good choice other than the fact theres already 2 berserk types in the game

[warm pulsar]

leaks????? devil = Dclaw buff, give Dclaw old uncanny!??!?

[silk arrow]

i want more cool toys for vet lol

[tulip karma]

yeah pretty much just hardline berserker

[haughty galleon]

Give Dclaw manstopper

[warm pulsar]

based

[noble turret]

or a smyker
or a gun scum
Or a bumbler ogryn

[silk arrow]

isnt it on the heavy sword lowkey ?

[warm pulsar]

I'd use it

[tulip karma]

cmonnnn he'd fit right in

[twin oxide]

I could try real hard to squeeze some joy out of hitting now undiscernable charred sacks of glowing blue meat who will all die in three seconds but why would I do that

[warm pulsar]

idk, I havent played in a bit

[silk arrow]

arent they just astra militarum regiment?

[olive yew]

I’ll play again when Skitarii drops

[karmic verge]

Tbf kin arent that much shorter. I think kin avg about a head shorter then humans so honestly within slider range of the shortest character vs the largest i think

[twin oxide]

Yeah man let me take a swing at the Migraineinator DoT affected enemies

[silk arrow]

just give the vet gland trooper skin and weaponary

[twin oxide]

And yeah let's buff it when it already breaks the game

[jagged marten]

we wont get gland warrior on the sole fact that fatshark gave his skullplate to hive scum

[silk arrow]

its all inquisition gear

[tulip karma]

not a regiment but just specialized guardsmen

they are just heavily modified

[silk arrow]

not bladed momentum, but sum else. its one of a few rending blessings left on melee

[tulip karma]

as much as i get that i think thats a bit too tarded for fatshark not to add them over

[jagged marten]

what would a gland warrior realistically do to be different

[silk arrow]

yeah my point is its just another astra militarum guy, hence vet could just get a skin for it and god i hope bring me a fking polearm

[tulip karma]

be a way more melee specific zealot at most otherwise im drawing blanks

[hard rune]

gland based gameplay

[tulip karma]

or guardsmen

[silk arrow]

the gland trooper polearms are soooo cool

[olive yew]

At that point they could just expand Veteran

[lime mauve]

Gland Warrior isn't as rare or far-fetched as I figured actually, could be a good class if it wasn't just a mashup of existing veteran and hive scum

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Detachment_D-99

[dense solstice]

I mean you could always add a Goliath as a counter part to ogryns

[silk arrow]

Id argue that cybernetics, bio and chem implants are already communicated mechanically. Ppl dont imagine it but things like ex stance and rampage are quite litterally your player character being pumped full of chems from various implants cyber augented power

[olive yew]

Yea but Ork mercenary 🙏

[dense solstice]

Marrow would have a stroke

[olive yew]

It would be funny

[noble turret]

exe is just you being built different

[silk arrow]

I feel like depending on how you build your character it varies from like bros got that dawg in him to bros got that subdermal implant

[dense solstice]

See I made this argument aswell and got told exe stance isn’t cybernetics

[noble turret]

Because it isn't

[lime mauve]

Bro is a latent psyker

[noble turret]

Vet is just an unmodified human for all intents and purposes

[silk arrow]

its the rp in game expression at that point. If you feel like Ex stance is just a hud on a meta glasses youre wearing thats valid. If you feel like its a brain implant thats shooting adrenal glands and giving you heat sensing wall hacks it can be that.

[noble turret]

The wall hacks are a gameplay abstraction

[silk arrow]

xD

shout out to modders yk

at that point youre using illegal cybernetics n drugs

[dense solstice]

Toss a smoke grenade and activate the hearing mechanic from the last of us

[silk arrow]

its all camp and the game lets you express that roleplaying bit. hard meta players all get mad at this one thing

[olive yew]

I’m curious how interesting the wheel skill tree is, and how that’ll be applied to the old classes

[silk arrow]

run your pyromaniac immo nade flamer knife freak cancel them animations and get grimey with it have fun gang lmfao

[silk lantern]

i dont think it will be retroactively added

like it'll just be a skitarii thing

[olive yew]

Depends on how successful it is

[light hornet]

It will be unique to the skitarii.

[dense solstice]

Fatshark having to redo all the skill trees to match the customization application of skit seems unlikely

That would be a balance nightmare I feel

[olive yew]

Would be a good way to expand the classes down the road

[jagged marten]

Actualy 4 branches might be fatshark testing too see additional branches for original classes

[dense solstice]

Yeah but every time you expand you’d have to change the tree order

And if the community bitches and moans

Change it again

And again

And again

TIL people are content

[olive yew]

People will always bitch tbf

[dense solstice]

Fair point

[olive yew]

Some people want VT2 skill trees back, some people want smite removed (me), some people want to have all the good abilities (lol), etc

[silk arrow]

I really hope they do a career capstone update were they add a class mastery tree bringing us from lvl 30 to 35 and having that capstone class spec to nail a career flavor

[deft dune]

It seems like Skitarii is a special case, in which case redoing the other class trees to match should appear as dumb.

[jagged marten]

They wont give us 35 skillpoints

[wintry pawn]

A circular skill tree sounds very Path of Exile. Love the idea

[silk lantern]

maybe but nothing guarantees that it would actually be implemented

[jagged marten]

https://tenor.com/view/path-of-exile-path-of-exile-2-poe-poe-2-poe2-gif-10220168355466966859

[silk arrow]

yeah that is kinda the vibe im thinking, but mainly it was a thing vermintide 2 did and it was recieved quite well

[dusk hedge]

FartShack barely manages to not break everything with the current skill trees

[olive yew]

Clearly players hate skill trees so we should just have hero characters instead 😏

[dusk hedge]

what gives you confidence that PoE-style circular tracks would fare better?

[silk arrow]

something that basically cements your build expression, maybe even having an exclusive weapon family depending on the capstone spec

[heavy citrus]

the current trees already let u make the most op abomination ever i literally cant imagine adding more points or branches

[dense solstice]

Has it actually been confirmed fully that’s it’s 4 branches or are we all just coping that it is

[olive yew]

They showed a preview

Someone post the image because I’m lazy and don’t have it

[deft dune]

Skitarii is very likely to have a cog skill tree because it makes the most sense for them. It looks like 4 branches but it could easily not be 4 distinct identities like people expect

[wintry pawn]

I never said it would be better, I like that they are experimenting with the idea. Stagnation is when it comes to things like skill trees is not the way. Trial many things to see what works

[silk arrow]

I could see them doing a crunch of the game were they rebalance make things like havoc into cata from vermintide 2 slowing down all the extra chaff n fluff and making the game more intentional.

[deft dune]

No reason to believe those are 4 identities though.

Could easily just be a plethora of mix and match able nodes

[dusk hedge]

except there's something to be said for consistency

[silk arrow]

that would allow for some true power progression versus the creep we have rn, perhaps giving us a level 35 at that point

[olive yew]

Current skill trees are fine but the new one looks really fun to mess with. While they’d have to do one class at a time, it could be pretty cool

[wintry pawn]

It's an ever evolving game. If you want consistency play things that never change like rpg's that once released just get patched, no innovation

[deft dune]

You mean making every skill tree consistently the same? They already don’t do that.

[dense solstice]

Some classes would be outright busted with them extra 5 points I’d wager

[dusk hedge]

I'm all for FartShack experimenting to find a better way to do skill trees

[olive yew]

Would let me make my reconlas vet become a melee guy with an infinite ammo range option. Totally not busted

[dusk hedge]

you don't have to have skill trees all be exactly the same to have a balance in how players path through them

[lime mauve]

Fatmangus plus damage talents

[silk arrow]

yeah its fun to think about. I dont see any tree expansion until at least 8 classes or when ever they complete the roster of player characters