hivescum-class

[worn canopy]

Oh man, i even remember explosive griefer man trying kill me and host didn't bother to see or deal the problem, just telling both of us stop or kick both.

Then sone pd2 modder kid act himself like ac-130 explosive vulcan that got him kicked for downed us and host.

[clear isle]

early havoc like 1-20 is still kinda chill, like playing auric

above is much much harder though

[worn canopy]

I stick to the host for self protecting me from griefer use rocket trying kill me.

[brittle atlas]

i once watched a hive scum fire 10 or more rockets from their RPG's and got a direct hit every time while we were on a ledge. tf ;-;

[worn canopy]

Hit the barrel?

[brittle atlas]

they always hit an enemy every time. and im pretty sure half of them were crushers.

[worn canopy]

@clear isle i hate stereotype payday 2 player kick people going down or in custody when griefer attempt killing me

[clear isle]

are you sure they weren't using swan song? its a skill you can use when you are almost dead and gives you infinite ammo (including rockets) for like 10 seconds

I think its nerfed now though so rockets dont work

but it used to like 1-2 years ago

[worn canopy]

I was playing as demoman build m32k launcher and sociopath perk katana

[worn canopy]

That was like 4 or 5 year ago

The dude use m202 flash to kill me

[clear isle]

thats wild, I never saw a hacker in darktide all my 600 hours

[worn canopy]

Could be the brute and blast event

[clear isle]

oh maybe

[worn canopy]

Yeah i hate someone trying kill to send me to custody so the host would kick someone downed or custody too much.

Explaining wouldnt help because the griefer deflect it

[clear isle]

yeah it really sucks, Im glad I stopped playing pd2 since then

[worn canopy]

Grew hating pd2 glazer then

[brittle atlas]

it wasnt a hacker they just went back and forth from an ammo crate i placed and i spent the whole thing watching them ;-;

[clear isle]

after the last heist was added I just dropped it

[worn canopy]

[clear isle]

mmm delicious ammo

[worn canopy]

Wait pd2 stop adding stuff?

[clear isle]

yeah man last heist was June 2023

crude awakening heist

[worn canopy]

Damn

Now i hope roblox player not causing too much glazing

[clear isle]

They only do maintenance and bug updates for the game now

[worn canopy]

As pd2 fan shit on 3 all time

[clear isle]

I got pd3 recently, it hasn't been too bad

[worn canopy]

Im broke rn can't afford game or dlc

[clear isle]

I have only 6 hours on it though so I didn't get too deep in yet

[worn canopy]

After my $3000 spent on games and dlc

[clear isle]

3000 damn

[worn canopy]

Is fair, i didnt get into much because expensive dlc and fewer weapons, skill is pd2 skill

[worn canopy]

Life time*

[clear isle]

I only bought the base game when it was on sale, due to steam it only cost $7

better price than the $40+ others paid for it on release

[worn canopy]

Im proud to spent shit bunch games dlc than going roblock spent mtx money on short life span cash grab games or cosmetic on dying platform

[clear isle]

for real

I saw someone I know spend $250 on ONE league of legends skin

crazy

[worn canopy]

Look at this lmao

Is only in a zombie shooting game, is a lootbox rng to get high tier weapon

[clear isle]

man what 😭

[worn canopy]

And is not that very popular today

It used to be popular

[worn canopy]

Dude spent $40 robuck just to get minigun from lootboxes roll in zombie game that isn't popular today and has like

[clear isle]

Just 182 players

Rip

[worn canopy]

It used to be popular in 2018

2016 their release

But theres dev split a guy used to work other guy stole entire his asset and work and become greedy

Im in one server guy got stole by other guy he got pissed call lawyer, and nothing happen

[astral canyon]

TwThOwOse whOwO wwemain

[worn canopy]

So thats why so brimestone a guy spent 40 dollar for minigun roll chances on this dead ass game

[clear isle]

40 dollars on roblox is wild

I think over 5 years on roblox I only spend like 5 or 10 💀

[worn canopy]

Roblox isn't worth spending on most game you find most game just dead and move one after few months

Except if is a sandbox high quality game like theme park tycoon 2. Few playing, but people use creativity to build something.

In the end of day, roblox just disposable video game made by amateurs most of it. Unlike steam here like a plaza offer bunch of games

I can ask a hive scum for good cheap games i goes random steam key black market buy discount price lol

[clear isle]

At the time it was popular, and I bought some cosmetics

So they carry over between games

[worn canopy]

What game?

Oh

The cosmetic

Avatar

[clear isle]

Yeah the cosmetics lol

[worn canopy]

Avatar is only good thing you can spend, for fashion

Metaverse like that

[clear isle]

[unreal stirrup]

this game have lootboxes now?

[worn canopy]

Yes for those who remain

[hearty fossil]

Is the hivescum actually worth it anymore now that the never stop shooting thing got removed

[astral canyon]

yes

its still extremely busted

and pickpocket barely got a slap on the wrist

[spice mural]

You mean pickpocket?

[limber cradle]

You guys were using Desp pickpocket?

Yeah HS very worth it

Beat mobility in game

Insane melee potential

[spice mural]

Since it was any kill and not just melee previously you could absolutely make it work.

[limber cradle]

Pick nerf wasnt that bad

[limber cradle]

I'm very aware, I'm moreso saying scum has a lot of valid playstyles

[spice mural]

I always preferred melee builds personally so the nerf didn’t even touch me.

[warm axle]

maybe not* for people who never switch weapons lol

[bronze glade]

some bros just want to play payday

[rotund agate]

you mean some people actually find playing OG Marksman Focus Vet: Actually-Moving Edition 24/7 to be fun?

[zenith pagoda]

They need to add a ranged only gamemode

No melee enemies

[verbal dew]

there is a maelstrom modifier that's kinda like that

it's ventilation purge and then just ranged elite spam

[wanton reef]

What is the best class for parry spamming

[zenith fern]

Theres no class for parry spam

[compact oyster]

scum

with dclaw

[zenith fern]

You only need dclaw

[compact oyster]

arbites for perfect block spam

[warm axle]

arbites perfect block is pretty nice, it's the only class with the ranged secondary that can pull it off : shotpistol!
as far as a parry, devil claw on zealot is my pick. this talent is overlooked, for good reason, but is a massive buff for that one bad scenario of parry spamming - disabling block break!
i believe it also can proc when reviving others, though i have not tested it myself.

hive scum has really good stamina recovery from regained posture, hive city brawler turns low stamina into a 20% damage buff , and the attack speed stimm lab has a great secondary effect with stamina cost reduction that can enable silly parry spam as well.

[flat mist]

Does anyone even use regained posture?

[warm axle]

no, lol

but it's kinda nuts to see it in action if you dodge constantly and use stamina.

[flat mist]

Yeah its insane stam regen

Its just got no use now exhaustion is gone

[warm axle]

and that the infinite sprint talent is baked into the class lol

[flat mist]

What

[jovial heron]

Just you dork

[warm axle]

the one that also gave increased sprint* dodge angles to ranged fire.

[flat mist]

I was running it today with combat blade kekw

[flat mist]

That all it did. How is that infinite sprint?

Oh edit

[molten shale]

I think I just played with a cryptid. Level 95 psyker that kept dying and calling the level 2400 and 1100 hive scum bad over voice because they let him die. I wasn't certain they were real 😭

[warm axle]

sorry, my mistake. it let your sprint dodge even without stamina!

[flat mist]

Ah yeah, well remembered

I got sad that my caxe build only has 35% crit, so i made a 100% crit caxe build

[warm axle]

oh it was even one of the few talents they put into early dev blogs

[lost ravine]

in your face apparently used to be in your face and unload

[flat mist]

Huge if true

[astral canyon]

now its shortshot

[flat mist]

Reminds me of everyone writing "ANAL [inserate literally any rogue talent]" in wow world chat back in the day

Anal eviscerate... hehe

Peak humour

[lost ravine]

death knights always win that game

[bronze glade]

Only back when you lost stamina during exhaust

[flat mist]

Its infinite humour fodder

Anal wrath

Anal regrowth

[lost ravine]

desecration and obliterate

[flat mist]

Anal demonic imp

[lost ravine]

hand of gul'dan

[flat mist]

Hahahaha

[lost ravine]

execute

[vapid jungle]

Anal Misdirection

[flat mist]

Slightly heretical but enjoying this with caxe

Extra 25-40% crit makes it feel way better against cara

And does wonders vs monstrosities

Could swap the aura and ditch maxed out chems

[plucky nymph]

wheere are my scum lords i need help

1. I have +unyield on needle pistol, lets say it lets me do 1k dmg per tick at max stacks on a boss...if i swap to a melee that does not have +unyield, what happens to that 1k?
2. what happens if the pistol does not have +unyield but the melee does have? lets say non-unyield is 1k at max stacks and i swap to melee with +unyield

melee has tox stack on crit to maintain / add stacks

[flat mist]

Damage perks are applied based on what weapon you have equipped

[vapid jungle]

But does the needle snapshot buffs or does it actively update?

[flat mist]

So when uou switch to melee your damage will drop if you dont havs uny on it

[vapid jungle]

Err the dot

[plucky nymph]

my creature pawner not working and the stupid reaper dies 2 fast lol thx

[flat mist]

The perk damage is not locked in when toxin is applied

[flat mist]

Actively update

You can see it go up and down if you swap back and forth

[plucky nymph]

so if i use pistol as an adjunct, theres no reason to have unyield since ill pop 5 needles in a boss then swap to melee with +unyield and then itd buff up the tox?

[flat mist]

Yeah pretty much

[plucky nymph]

i am enlightened

[flat mist]

Hypothetically crit chance could be more useful to apply more stacks

But 1-2 extra stacks 5% of the time is shit

[plucky nymph]

i just popped a reaper with tox without +unyield, swapped to +unyield melee and it didnt buff the dmg?

[flat mist]

Have u reloaded the psykh since u respecced

[plucky nymph]

ya

[flat mist]

Do you have the near/far ranged damage talent

[plucky nymph]

first ss with no unyield pistol
second ss with +unyield melee out

nope

i did notice the +unyield did make the number like 170 or some shit but since i took it off its just not worky Q_Q

[flat mist]

Im 100% sure so reload everything and check again i reckon

[vapid jungle]

Chem toxin adms are so ridiculous.

[plucky nymph]

im in a truesolo psykh does that matter

cause i just put +unyield back on and its still 138 lmao

[flat mist]

Did u reload the psykhanium

[mighty belfry]

Mk6 knife enjoyers

[flat mist]

I was running it earlier with knoife

[mighty belfry]

Yeah that's like

The ideal scenario for it.

[plucky nymph]

ok something weird iwth truesolo i took OFF unyield nad now its doing 118 dmg, so idk wtf is happening lmao

[mighty belfry]

Counters push spam stamina cost.

[flat mist]

Slippery cust and 36% stam regen for always max stam even with spamming PA memes

[plucky nymph]

fug it goin bak to work

[mighty belfry]

True solo is really buggy

[plucky nymph]

basically goal is that if i stack just a bit more dmg i can 1 hit every elite gunner in h40

[mighty belfry]

Some things just don't work properly there.

So take any testing there with a grain of salt.

[flat mist]

Got quick and deadly?

In Your Face would get you there if you dont swap back to melee

(Only applies when your ranged weapon is equipped)

[plucky nymph]

i have no spare talent points, otherwise id love in yo face
and no quick n dedly

i just think i need to test in real game cause i think +10% range elite would let me 1 hit scab elite gunner when non-critting non-headshot on h40 alongside flak

then everything else is still either 2 hit kill (like mauler / dreg rager, regardless of perk combo) or 1 hit (still 1 hitting flamers n stuff, though i usually do 2 since it takes a while)

1 hitting every elite gunner would be so huge lol

and for unyield i just swap to melee anyway for bosses so dont need +unyield technically with +1tox on crit

[vapid jungle]

I had no idea shivs gave back special ammo on regular enemy backstab kill

[mighty belfry]

Ya

Also.

I've found a stimm crate build I actually like using

The world is coming to an end apparently.

[flat mist]

U should just be able to shoot a bigger target in the psykhanium and math it out, right?

[flat mist]

Send pics

[flat mist]

U should also send build pics

[mighty belfry]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a18d9fe7-b9a0-4364-8d2e-58cfdad4226b/toxicological-terror

No. Not taking pickpocket is not a mistake.

Chem bomb with strength buff is kinda bonkers ngl

It's very much a melee heavy build. Just with a lot more toxins.

[plucky nymph]

I would but needle pistol just a dumb gun idk if I trust it unless I actually use it xD

[plucky nymph]

idk wat was going on but i restarted game and it allw orks now, +10% elite dmg lets me now 1 hit body every elite gunner on h40 lol, except non-crit non-headshot no external buff leaves plasma at literally 32 hp

[flat mist]

I like it. Just a rampage build w/o rampage and that isnt a criticism

[mighty belfry]

Yep. Literally did that by mistake

And realized

It's pretty darn good.

[flat mist]

And yeah pickpocket is unnecessary. Just a comfort pick when i know im gonna br playing more defensively bc im tired

Im skeptical about toxin mania still but you do have 5 sources of toxin

It was objectively bad pre splash damage existing, atleast on rampage builds

@mighty belfry you can just take Close and Deadly instead. Theres no way its getting less value than toxin lame-ia

[mighty belfry]

It's the blackouts

It's a guaranteed buff for them.

And Chem bomb

And it's also not hard to get value from it with knife light spam

And splash damage being there, ya

I genuinely think Close and Deadly is kinda overrated

Uptime isn't as great as you'd first think.

Hmm

I have a really stupid idea now

Crit do toxin. Heavy sword, max crit with perfect strike and chained deathblow. Light spam for max toxin proccing

With stimm crate.

[arctic imp]

nothing i love more than leaving a havoc 40 after clocking a loser with a terrible attitude

[mighty belfry]

oh boy

[arctic imp]

I just wanted to get the bad experience off my chest. I like your idea though.

[mighty belfry]

It could either be a terrible idea because the sword itself ain't gonna do much

[arctic imp]

Don’t know how it’d compare to weapons that already have inherent tox like the cleaver because that also does good damage

[mighty belfry]

Or an amazing idea because perfect strike is just gonna let me proc toxin on entire mixed hordes with little interruption

[mighty belfry]

It's the fact that perfect strike procs on crit, which cuts down hit mass immensely and makes your swing not care about carapace

Including bulwark shields

So every crit is gonna proc toxin on a lot of enemies in swings

[arctic imp]

Cleaver can’t do the same? I mean I know it needs a bit more investment for cleave but how valuable is hit mass reduction versus a cleave increase? I’d assume the hit mass reduction is a bigger help

[mighty belfry]

Not at all. Because there's nothing for bonesaw that makes it ignore hit mass entirely.

[ancient basin]

cleave stat is the damage distribution across your max number of targets, where hit mass stat directly increases your max number of targets iirc

[plucky nymph]

i got a bone saw build that works in h40 but then its literally just good at boss dmg and killin crushers n maulers fast, its not that good still no matter how hard u try to make it clear a few trash mobs xd

rather just use dclaw

[ancient basin]

doesnt dclaw suffer against crushers and maulers though

havent played in a minute

[plucky nymph]

yea it aint gon compete vs the bone saw but with practice you can get good clear speed on a rot pack if u parry right

i usually dodge and move in a way where only one or two overheads might hit me out of a whole pack, so ill eat the second for a parry, or parry same time as a dodge so a 2nd wont hit

its like a lot of practice tbh but it has okay clear speed, not good but okay* XD for carapace

also handles ragers like a motherfker, not even needing to use parry

[ancient basin]

love my Dclaw, works great on hive scum too so bonus

can just take infinite ammo needle gun for crushers too

[plucky nymph]

yea sometimes i just give up and abuse needle

[flat mist]

Oh i agree but toxin mania also has uptime issues

[flat mist]

This but chainsword bc of its unique cleave damage fall off

[mighty belfry]

I'm aware. I just think in this particular case

[flat mist]

Running +550% cleave is a great meme if nothing else

[mighty belfry]

I have so many sources of toxin that would benefit directly from it.

Otherwise I'd run something else.

[flat mist]

I havent tested it for a couple patches

But yeah you have 3 aoe tox sources

Makes sense

This guys chainsword build makes me want to punch a baby in the face

[low harbor]

wats dat

[flat mist]

Its a talent

[low harbor]

wat does it do

[flat mist]

+15% close ranged damage for 3s on dodge

[low harbor]

isn't that quick and deadly

[flat mist]

Lmao

[low harbor]

not close and deadly

[flat mist]

Maybe

But perhaps youre hallucinating

[low harbor]

It’s quick and deadly

[flat mist]

For sooooo long i thought EE was empathetic evasion

[jovial heron]

yeah but thats your neutral state

[flat mist]

😭

[jovial heron]

its empathy evasion. gotta avoid feeling sorry for these heretics

[flat mist]

Or you could just not be a sociopath?!?!?!?!?

[jovial heron]

what is that, beloved?

[flat mist]

I didnt say anything

[jovial heron]

"I CAN'T HEAAAAAAR YOUUUU"

[flat mist]

Over the sound of the voices in my head*

[jovial heron]

https://giphy.com/gifs/paramountplus-paramount-plus-frasier-crane-1lOveNsm9zIE298Xhg

[flat mist]

Im not warp touched, this crazy is all me babbbyyy

[ancient basin]

hive scum being a tszeench psi op all along

to be fair, all the chaos gods are most likely involved due to nurgle throwing his weight around

[clear isle]

Never let bro cook again

[bronze crown]

Is there consensus on what weapon is best for Desperado?

[mighty belfry]

Dual Autopistols or Vraks Infantry Autogun

[bronze crown]

Thought so. But is one objectively better or is it situational to misson type?

[reef spoke]

dual autopistols has higher fire rate but vraks autogun has more finesse (single target dps)

you'd probably get better performance against enemies like reapers and Scab Ragers with the Vraks autogun

[bronze crown]

Thanks

[reef spoke]

np, it's harder to test as DAPs have more damage and more fire rate but can't aim and basically no finesse

while Vraks has always been a reliable ranged weapon even if it can't aim for head (maulers and plasma gunners)

So it's basically personal preference as both have their strengths and the details only really show up in the highest level difficulties

[flat mist]

Dude managed to skip swift endurance, hyper crit, hyper viol, hive city brawler, street tough, pickpocket....

Its actually insane

[reef spoke]

and to think these are the people you see at the higher levels of difficulty

imagine the builds someone perma-stuck in Heresy or Malice looks like

[clear isle]

I think that's more mechanical issue though

Bcz even with the worst builds you can compensate with mechanical skill

[reef spoke]

Lets be frank, it'd be both

[clear isle]

Real

[reef spoke]

Darktide has always had the wackiest skill floor and skill ceiling of any multiplayer pve game I've seen

oh actually that reminded me of a time I found a lvl 30 Vet in Damnation with the starting aura

[rustic lava]

It could have been after an update and they didn't see that their skills were reset

[flat mist]

This dude is a youtuber 💀

A sub 100 view-tuber tbf

[bronze crown]

Is there a list with photos of Tactical Axe and Infantry Autogun cosmetic skins?

[verbal dew]

should have most, since there hasn't been a new one recently https://warhammer-40k-darktide.fandom.com/wiki/Commodore's_Vestures

[calm aurora]

turns out alley rat is dangerous

[verbal dew]

it does if you click on the secondary images

if they exist

but the weapon models should give it away

otherwise you need mods to see them ingame

[bronze crown]

Oh I see now.

Thanks

[worn portal]

is devil claw parry a viable 'stay alive' melee solution solution for chem build scum against rotten armor??

[verbal dew]

that's a lot of stuff to parry

with ragers hitting you twice in some hits and the others just overheading you

[worn portal]

i havnt had a ton of luck with shivs in general, so been thinking of alternatives like crowbar, tac axe, etc

hoping there something with a bit of stagger or something for areas since not every area is like psyk and lets me move around

[neat delta]

tac axe is better

crowbar is just vibes.

[idle sedge]

tac axe is absolutely better than crowbar, but I think if you want anti armor with brittleness then cowbar is better

I'm not saying anything, but... the tac axe go crazy if you use macro and know how to set it up

[worn portal]

ya im practicing a bit with the devil claw in psyk... its pretty great against small groups

but getting merked by big swarms

[verbal dew]

big swarms of what

[worn portal]

just 'melee pressure' trial

[verbal dew]

is that mixed horde or

[worn portal]

ya big mixed horde

and against 6 maulers, takes me awhile to kill them vs 6 dreg ragers

which i just 1 shot

[idle sedge]

check this shi out

[worn portal]

ok, cleared it with tac axe and light spam / crate bomb

[idle sedge]

this is without the attack buff from wound btw.

[near mauve]

Check out my cheated gameplay guys it's so fast!!!!

[idle sedge]

It's not cheating 😭 Why does everyone say macro is cheating?

it's a pve game anyway

[near mauve]

This is not possible with human input bro

[idle sedge]

I'm not wallhacking or anything

[lost ravine]

fuck kinda argument is that

[near mauve]

You're trivializing the game for others

It's not about leaderboards and ranks

[worn portal]

its still pretty fast axe

[near mauve]

Every macro user I've played with just trivializes the game

Remember the goku spam psykers

[mighty belfry]

i get using like, an autoattacker to make the weapon easier to use on the hand but that's clearly just making it do something it's not supposed to at that point

[worn portal]

how does a macro even do that? isnt the weapon attack speed limited?

[mighty belfry]

animation cancel

[worn portal]

oh

[lost ravine]

member surge surge with the quell cancel

same BS

[near mauve]

Ye DBZ ball spam

Pew pew pew Everything dead

[lost ravine]

"how am i cheating i'm just using a macro to do 3x the damage i'm supposed to do" getthefuckouttahere

[idle sedge]

switch fast, animation cancel

yea I mean... they did't ban it anyway so.. why not

[near mauve]

So true king

[lost ravine]

i do not say this lightly, but

[worn portal]

well in any case, i'll try normal tac axe

[lost ravine]

bruh

[worn portal]

heard that for crate scum, fervor is pretty appreciated

gotta go fast

[low harbor]

it's not, it's just cringe behaviour

[idle sedge]

Hey, I say i'm not going to say anything; 😣 it's not cheating but ya know... it's a underhand tactic so I don't defend it or anything ~(>_<。)＼

Using it to nuke captain void shield is fun as f so let me have some fun ヾ(•ω•`)o

[worn portal]

lets just play our game

-_-

and move on

[low harbor]

u can surely play the game the normal way without macros

[idle sedge]

dudeee I play the game normal way like 300hr

[worn portal]

i dont care either way, enjoy your game either way

[main trellis]

I like that you are BASED

[low harbor]

yea u can just keep on doing that instead of using macros lol

[idle sedge]

200hr left let me have some fun (TヘTo)

[worn portal]

45s CD stim crate too long huh

[idle sedge]

I'm just using tac axe sometime, not like I abuse it, but I do use macro to spam light attacks, yes.

[main trellis]

[low harbor]

nah just learn to play normal

[main trellis]

I smell pepega

[low harbor]

it's not hard anyway

[idle sedge]

finger hurt

[main trellis]

How old are you?

[lost ravine]

[idle sedge]

90

[lost ravine]

90 days?

[main trellis]

Months would make sense

[lost ravine]

yeah but 90 days would be impressive

[main trellis]

Yeah and i’m Miles Davis & i play the trumpet

[idle sedge]

I'm writting alot okey...👉👈 spare me

[lost ravine]

mandated edict: touch grass

[main trellis]

I write too & play
My question about age was genuine
So how old are ya?

[worn portal]

https://tenor.com/view/fbi-gif-2734175389934997010

[idle sedge]

I'm 20 dude, in uni, writing alot

[low harbor]

idk maybe u should play more relaxing games with less clicking, if DT without macro is painful for ur fingers at the age of 20

[idle sedge]

Why do you think i set a macro from the beginning, I dun wanna get trigger finger or something with finger

[worn portal]

is booby trap pretty mandatory with stim supply?

[mighty belfry]

no

[worn portal]

is it even that good?

[idle sedge]

oh I do click like normal people for first 200hr like I say ~(><。)＼~(><。)＼~(><。)＼~(><。)＼~(>_<。)＼

https://klipy.com/gifs/dance-burnice

[verbal dew]

I use booby trap on crate spam since why not

[mighty belfry]

Five second wait is a little brutal

But an immediate 7 stacks of toxin is nothing to scoff at

[low harbor]

yea so why do u need macro now, I don't get the difference

and I have thousands of hrs

just seems like a lot of excuses really

[worn portal]

all the end nodes are 45s cooldown, but i guess with chem dependency, curios, and stuff - i can still drop crates pretty consitently

[main trellis]

Bruh… at 20 your fingers hurt that you use macros? Yeah nah; you’re finding excuses to ease your experience cause its easier & don’t want to experience failure (atleast in video games) due to said inexperience
You need to do better; you ain’t gonna get shit - stop acting like you’re made of porcelain

[low harbor]

no but it is powerful, strong stagger & a lot of dmg

[idle sedge]

Yeah, but since the horde and the intensity get more insane, I just install a ghub and make it click for me, like too many enemies to click so I kind of got lazy too

[idle sedge]

yeah that's true, you're not wrong tho

[viscid crow]

We have hive scum cosmetic at home moment

[main trellis]

See what i mean? Its not your fingers; its your mental state
Do better

[idle sedge]

uh no

[verbal dew]

I only use auto melee at the regular light spam speed

[idle sedge]

maybe someday... 👉👈

[low harbor]

so just all excuses lol

just play the game normal

[verbal dew]

or the ranged option for semi-autos

[lost ravine]

or, if fingies hurt
take a break

do something manual

make fingies STRONG

build up clicking resistance

[viscid crow]

Hmm, the criminal chat is way more supportive than veteran chat somehow

[main trellis]

Its not painful to him; its a convenient excuse but the point you made; @idle sedge ; play more relaxing games not darktide

[low harbor]

we all know he's not gonna do any of that and continue to macro spam lol

[worn portal]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a18e7d74-8ac6-4376-a443-e78d7203c387/sanic-crate-scum

so this is what i got right now

[lost ravine]

i am a psyker chat envoy

[mighty belfry]

Did they finally release the fucking hoods?

[worn portal]

not the best scum player, but we've been having some mid-20s havocs where nobody has any anti-blight

[lost ravine]

where the hood at

[viscid crow]

no, it's for zealot and psyker

[mighty belfry]

I mean for psyker

[idle sedge]

got chuu

[verbal dew]

it's for psyker and zealot

[lost ravine]

i love watching the team die to attrition because we do not have one of the few attrition hard counters

[mighty belfry]

Those have been in the game since forever

[idle sedge]

i gonna uninstall darktide tommorow

[verbal dew]

because fuck the actul scum

[idle sedge]

take a break

[worn portal]

holy crap i couldnt believe how much they ate blight

[main trellis]

Ah yes pls say more BASED takes boi (i really wanted to say ‚bby’ but i resisted… AGAIN! ^^)

[worn portal]

like bacon of purity would not save their ass

honestly, if they werent RL friends, i would just give up on them

[lost ravine]

hive scum hood yet hive scum has no hoods available
i find this curious

[main trellis]

Unironically; thats better

[verbal dew]

well they have 3 hoods

with shiny eyes

[lost ravine]

that's so considerate of you homie

[main trellis]

Most likely; i ain’t the type to ignore it tho

[worn portal]

but i guess 45 second cooldown on stim crate wouldnt do much good if they eat that might blight too so maybe going for fervor is asking too much

[main trellis]

Oh hush you~

[worn portal]

maybe i should just get 2-3 defense nodes and call it

[main trellis]

[lost ravine]

[verbal dew]

I mean, you just run the talent that gives you your crate back when your stim gets back

which is max 15 seconds

[main trellis]

Zealot too? Thats… weird… no vet…

[verbal dew]

with one point investment

[worn portal]

crate uses stim, but stim restores crate- so whats the proper way to cycle the two

[verbal dew]

what

[worn portal]

i thought crate consumes your stim

[verbal dew]

if you run min investment stim

it has a cooldown of 15 seconds

[worn portal]

oooh thats what you mean

and just literally permanent uptime

[verbal dew]

not permanent but

[worn portal]

i guess i dont need sample collector then

[lost ravine]

this is also very good for the "do things while stimmed" penances

as you would be stimmed 24/7

[verbal dew]

sample collector is a free talent tho

since it's in the path you'd prob take

[lost ravine]

don't need yes but also, can't skip i think?

[verbal dew]

ok you can skip

[worn portal]

tis > nimble -> jittery

[verbal dew]

if you go nimble in to jittery

but like

[worn portal]

so i can get booby

do allys get chem fortified +50% toughness restored?

[lost ravine]

nyo

at least i do not think so

[verbal dew]

no

since it's not a crate talent

or a stimm effect

[worn portal]

i guess i get it though

from the crate

[verbal dew]

yes

[worn portal]

huh, so with the 21s one, if you were in the area up until it disappears, it more or less evens out to perfect uptime

[verbal dew]

uptime on what, chem dep?

chem dep only drops one stack at a time

[worn portal]

5 second crate expode+15s stim effect, so it comes back right when effect ends

[main trellis]

Gives you tdr tho; that alone is worth it

[verbal dew]

I mean yeah, I was just talking about what it gives to teammates

you obv run it for yourself

[low harbor]

no, both effects are only for u

[worn portal]

so dumb blessed stims is a req for stim supply

seem to do the same thing

[verbal dew]

I mean it's in the path for rampage as well

[worn portal]

unless you go ruffian

[verbal dew]

no one used them before when they were optional

[dense hollow]

blessed stimms/long lasting is a tax node but you actually have the exact same amount of talent points to spend as you used to before it was a tax node because the +25 toughness node was made baseline

[worn portal]

ah

and long last ing stims affects the supply effect im guessing - not sure if realy woth it

[dense hollow]

long lasting stimms makes stimms last 20 secs instead of 15 secs

i dont know if it actually affects the stimm supply augment for adding the lingering 15s effect

it's not worth the point though

[astral canyon]

Long lasting doesnt do shit for crate

And blessed stimms is pretty pointless for it too since crate already clears corruption

[flat mist]

Cowbar

[flat mist]

Woah kat calm down ok

[worn portal]

ya crowbar latch efect

getting me killed me vs multiple crushers

[dire badge]

I could be dancing around crushers takin them down one by one with my shivs. Then a crusher from the backrope charges a overhead, goes through another crusher and I see it as it's coming down and I'm splattered. No revive either because it just instant kills

[flat mist]

Wait people die to blight ??

[main trellis]

For that you have an option
For crate you don’t

Thats why its dogshit

Not to mention; blessed stimm works for crate so others when they kill get their corruption healed up… but… the crate is doing that already…

Dogshit design

[worn portal]

block efficiency work on parry?

[main trellis]

Crate builds have effectively 29 talents
Just like indomitable ogryns cause mandatory 5% tdr grey node on a class with already high tdr & dr

[main trellis]

No

Its not a block

Get stamina if you want to parry more

[worn portal]

been praciticng devil claw vs crusher.. its been... intersting

[brittle atlas]

guys if i have around 30$ is that enough to buy both Arbites and Hivescum? let alone deluxes?

[dire badge]

@mighty belfry Hey mate Finese stim on a pure melee build with shivs is good against armored lads inplace of rending right? Becuase of the multiplier that hsivs has for finese.

[main trellis]

Forget about the deluxe; paying for pretty pixels on a game you most likely won’t stick is pepega move

[brittle atlas]

eh. why not.

[main trellis]

And ppl wonder why they have no money

PEPEGAS

[brittle atlas]

fuck i can only get one.

alright Hivescum or Arbites

hmmmmmmm

[worn portal]

ok, devil claw vs mauler pretty easy by comparison, but damn its slow vs crushers

and its not even fair vs ragers, had to check if i had invul turned off

[brittle atlas]

screw it i want a funky shotgun

arbites it is

try convincing me otherwise if ya wish

[main trellis]

Time the parries

[dire badge]

They're complete opposites. You want tankier but slower? And alot of staggering and control, pick Arbites. if you want glass cannon but fast, Hivescum. But in terms of class fantasy and drip/personalities Arbites wins all the way. (This is coming from a hibescum main)

[main trellis]

Do what you like
Just don’t get a deluxe imo; not worth it

[flat mist]

STIMM SUPPLY ROTATION

1. 0s > Stimm Supply [75s SC]
2. 0s > 5s detonation [32s CAD] (5s stimm buff)
3. 0s > 32s ability recharge (15s stimm buff)
4. 37s > Supply
5. 37s > 5s detonation [32s CAD] (5s stimm buff)
6. 42-67s > IS STIMM AVAILABLE? If Y, Stimm Supply [Repeat from step 1]
7. 67s > If N to previous, Supply [Repeat from step 4]

[brittle atlas]

b-but extra shiny pixels

[main trellis]

Play the game not fashion it; this ain’t warframe

[flat mist]

Gives 55% uptime with max CD stimm

[brittle atlas]

i dont even have warframe

[spare tartan]

I do

and i got deluxe on both too

[main trellis]

Guess what its free

In terms of money

[brittle atlas]

age rating -_-

[spare tartan]

what about it

[main trellis]

What are you a 10?

In age metric

[brittle atlas]

15 -_-

besides my dad has account stuff on my stuff

so yeah.

[main trellis]

Ok wait 3 more years then

HOL UP

You are 15… and play Darktide… a brutal horde shooter with vicera, mutilation, blood & pain

[dire badge]

why have you been asking about ages? Twice so far just today.... hm......

[main trellis]

But warframe ain’t for you cause 15?

[brittle atlas]

my dad is yet to increase my accoutn age

[main trellis]

You either trolling or stupid

[brittle atlas]

no

[main trellis]

Oh…

[brittle atlas]

my dad has control on accounts

hes yet to increase the age.

[main trellis]

That explains alot

[main trellis]

Well ask him

Or better

Be useful; do chores, ask if he needs help, take the initiative
Work for it

[brittle atlas]

somehow GOW4 has a higher rating than all the others ;-;

[main trellis]

Do a compromise

And fulfill your quota

He (should) reward you in turn

[flat mist]

Back during The Burning Crusade we had a guild vote as to whether Glint's 12 year old brother Shadow could raid with us

We voted yes and he was goated

[main trellis]

BASED

[flat mist]

I was like 15 and was mediocre and cried during a raid bc I wasn't in the group that got all the good dps buffs

[dire badge]

I was 15 playing wow and sad cusi couldnt make it to main raid gorup cus i sucked

[flat mist]

That was my not getting let into art school moment

The world will regret that decision.

(That's a hitler reference to the uninitiated)

[brittle atlas]

eh. lemme ask him 2 things rq.

nvm 1 thing.

because ive asked him before about increasing it.

he says that he picks what the supposed old enough age is.

and it'll most likely be a maturity thing.

[worn portal]

what the hell, i can just parry sword cap forever

i wonder how well this works on rinda

i just spam parry

wow that was eay

[main trellis]

So hes based

Good

[brittle atlas]

i once parry-stringed a Plague Ogryn, keeping aggro for the entire time my friends were blitzing it :]

[main trellis]

Yes; the only things you cannot parry are grabs & explosions

[worn portal]

dunno why it does like no stam damage

no timing involved

literally spam aprry

[brittle atlas]

yeah idid that

on a plague ogryn

pretty sure i did it on a cahos spawn too

[astral canyon]

And ranged

[flat mist]

STIMM SUPPLY ROTATION

1. 0s >>> ACTION: Stimm Supply [75s SC]
2. 0s >>> WAIT: detonation timer [31s CAC] (5s stimm buff)
3. 5s >>> WAIT: ability recharge timer (15s stimm buff)
4. 36s >>> ACTION: Supply
5. 36s >>> WAIT: detonation [31s CAC] (5s stimm buff)
6. 41s >>> WAIT: ability recharge timer (15s stimm buff
7. 41-72s >>> VARIABLE: Is Stimm Available? If Y, [Repeat from Step 1]. If N, [Repeat from Step 4].

SC = Stimm Cooldown
CAC = Combat Ability Cooldown

TOTAL CYCLE DURATION = 72s or less
MINIMUM BUFF UPTIME = 40s (55%)

This makes sense, right? RIGHT?

https://tenor.com/view/padme-anakin-smile-love-gif-17180376

[astral canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-i-like-your-funny-words-magic-man-gif-12132376810128560925

[flat mist]

You can also pop the stimm first to shave a few seconds off the cycle

But then you have to dodge back into the aoe everytime

[astral canyon]

Wouldnt popping the stimm first make it take longer to refresh it?

[flat mist]

The buffs stack

[astral canyon]

Since the cooldown only starts when the effect ends

[astral canyon]

I mean the stimm cooldown

[flat mist]

It doesnt lengthen the 72s cycle i describe

Bc that is reliant on ability CD

But it does reduce the chance that Practice Deployment lets you skip back to step 1 ahead of time

[dire badge]

on my dual stu pistols that i use for clearing gunners and what not(not armoredl adsm ostly) should i have run n gun and pinning fire?

[flat mist]

STIMM SUPPLY ROTATION
1. 0s >>> ACTION: Stimm Supply [75s SC] 
2. 0s >>> WAIT: detonation timer (5s stimm buff)
3. 5s >>> WAIT: ability recharge timer (15s stimm buff) [31s CAC]
4. 36s >>> ACTION: Supply 
5. 36s >>> WAIT: detonation timer (5s stimm buff)
6. 41s >>> WAIT: ability recharge timer (15s stimm buff) [31s CAC)
7. 41-72s >>> VARIABLE: Is Stimm Available? If Y, repeat from [Step 1]. If N, repeat from [Step 4].

Stimm Supply = use crate with stimm available
Supply = use crate without stimm available
SC = Stimm Cooldown
CAC = Combat Ability Cooldown

TOTAL CYCLE DURATION = 72s or less
MINIMUM BUFF UPTIME = 40s (55%)

[astral canyon]

Desperado (the blessing thay gives +20% crit chance on dodge not the ability) is really good for dual stubs

Specially the spin shots

[dire badge]

that makes sense but if im using it to jsut get the annoying lads to stop shooting at me so i can close the distance is it the best?

cus i am ap ure melee build

[astral canyon]

Spin shots have huge finesse scaling so more crit chance is really good for it

[flat mist]

Use bistol

[dire badge]

does a dodge count as a slide for that blessing

[calm aurora]

I have been converted to the toxin sword, but I take nades and hypercrit tho

[flat mist]

Do you mean does a slide count as a dodge?

[dire badge]

yeah sorry

like if i have my guns out and forward slide bullets

[flat mist]

Shooters yes

Gunners no

[dense hollow]

but 30$ is enough for both

[dire badge]

what if i dodge with my shivs, if i pull out the pistols do i get the buff?

[flat mist]

No

[dire badge]

darn

[flat mist]

Why elites damage on knife?

[crimson moss]

Something something breakpoints

[dire badge]

I have carpace and unyielding no my shivs. Because there's simply nto enough dmg on thsoe fucking carapace packs

[mighty belfry]

Yeah.

[mighty belfry]

Preference.

[mighty belfry]

Oh to clarify, its not the finesse multiplier that dictates why you go finesse stimm

Shiv ADMs are already really good and Uncanny makes them better if you use it. So you can afford to give up rending on your stimm

[dire badge]

ADMs?

[mighty belfry]

Armor damage modifier

[dire badge]

ah okay

[dire badge]

what blessings would you reccomend on ye ol shivs?

also i noticed cleaving normal hoards like mobien 21st is a pain. but i assume nbothing can be done with that with shivs?

[calm aurora]

Goblin. Is the lack of HC in your build only due to blackouts? Or Am i missing something?

[mighty belfry]

Yes.

The regen eating

Is very noticeable on that setup

If you're not using them

I'd recommend it.

Because you'll get crazy horde cleaves

[calm aurora]

Ok did that. You took virulent strain instead of toxic mania. For big bois and monstrosities?

[mighty belfry]

Yep.

[main trellis]

Virulent is very good

Always pick if you go tox

[mighty belfry]

10% damage taken with a consistent proc like that is huge

Helps your team too.

[calm aurora]

How does a tertium welcome works with perfect strike?

[mighty belfry]

It just gives you more melee damage on first target for overkill transferring

[mighty belfry]

Any mix of riposte + precog + uncanny

I like riposte precog personally

[unreal stirrup]

can't you just punch them anyway

[mighty belfry]

And put channeled aggression on

[unreal stirrup]

beta cuck

[mighty belfry]

Shiv base cleave actually took a pretty big hit with the balancing update

Battering strikes is a good idea to take

[unreal stirrup]

didn't they just revert it back to launch value

[mighty belfry]

Were they like that at launch?

[unreal stirrup]

anyway knife win again

[calm aurora]

I tried executor. Turns out you kill too fast for it to have more than 1.8ish average stack. So sad.

[dire badge]

def go into havoc

[calm aurora]

That was in Mael. Going to havoc won't make that much of a difference.

[dire badge]

you think you have enough rending without it in havoc rotten armor?

[calm aurora]

At least you fuck bosses. But there's other way to do it..

[unreal stirrup]

needler moment

[calm aurora]

Yeah. I need to stop using it.

[unreal stirrup]

I've been running bisptol

i just want it to get buffed

[calm aurora]

Does lethal prox work with chem nade too?

[unreal stirrup]

lethal prox work with all aoe

for chem it only affect initial explosion iirc

[calm aurora]

Explosions AOE

[dire badge]

critical chance increase on shivs doesnt increase the dmg of the crit itself right

[calm aurora]

No

Don't take crit dmg perk either

[dire badge]

yeah think im sticking to uncanny and precog for shis

[unreal stirrup]

uncanny riposte is much better

[jovial heron]

Any good ranged alternatives to needle pistol? Have had some trouble in havoc teams without dedicated ranged/special sniping

[unreal stirrup]

you can build shiv to have like 72.5% consistent crit adrenaline and more with dependency

[unreal stirrup]

tbh ranged is fine for needler

the other option is bpistol

but bp is ass and you only have 8 round per mag

you have to 2 tap everything

[jovial heron]

Yeah it’s fine just the small magazine has problems when it’s like 10 reapers and 15 gunners and no one is shooting them T.T

[unreal stirrup]

it one shot them even on 40 anyway

gunner i mema

[jovial heron]

Yeah I know the density of them sometimes on havoc 40 means it just takes a while

[unreal stirrup]

or you can just run at them and melee tbh

stripped down on class that have infinite stamina

[jovial heron]

I am aware

[mighty belfry]

With channeled aggression, ya

Heck you don't even need that. Shiv heavies already have a great carapace ADM

But it is nice to have.

[unreal stirrup]

shiv heavy + uincanny is already 100% adm

[mighty belfry]

They're asking about without uncanny though

Which is also completely valid for shivs.

[unreal stirrup]

make horde clear kind of a struggle because flak adm

[mighty belfry]

Precog helps a lot with flak.

ADMs aren't bad enough that simply beefing the hell out of your damage won't also suffice.

[dire badge]

fuck it ill run precog ripost

[mighty belfry]

Are you running hyperviolence and/or hypercrit?

[vapid jungle]

Get someone else that can apply brittle and go for finesse on stim for some JUICY hyper critical procs

[dire badge]

both and full rmp talents

purem elee build

[mighty belfry]

You'll be fine then.

[vapid jungle]

The rending on rampage will bridge the carapace gap

[mighty belfry]

Try to mix heavies into your combos for mixed horde clear

You want to get a big hit in to start the hyperviolence ramp

[dire badge]

oo good clal

[mighty belfry]

I need to redo my shiv build

But honestly shivs bore me nowadays.

[unreal stirrup]

it is the vanilla ass moveset

knife better

[mighty belfry]

Knife is just more fun

And mk6 is arguably just

Better

[unreal stirrup]

it is better

[mighty belfry]

At least it is now

[dire badge]

is mk6 the one that swings wide

[mighty belfry]

Yeah

That swipe is insane at abusing hyperviolence ramping.

[unreal stirrup]

the wide swing have deceptively good single target damage

so even if you cant pa spam it good

[vapid jungle]

Also has higher cleave than you'd think for a knife

[unreal stirrup]

light does "worse damage" than shiv but hyperv my goat

[mighty belfry]

And push attack also has very deceptive range.

[mighty belfry]

Push attack light light

There you go.

Light do damage

[unreal stirrup]

i just light light heavy

stack hyperv better

[dire badge]

so u dont bring rending rmapage talent?

[mighty belfry]

I do now because the tree is compressed enough to fit it in.

Before, I didn't.

And it was still really good to run riposte precog

I know @limber cradle ended up liking it a lot when they tried it.

[limber cradle]

I ran it with Riposte Precog shivs

Works

I don't run it with knife tho

[mighty belfry]

Thing is, riposte precog

Creates insane overkill damage on hordes

That ramps up more and more until you go over to a crusher and just nuke them

It's the setup that made me one shot Rodidn't in Havoc 40 lol

[dire badge]

with knife or shiv

[mighty belfry]

Shiv.

It's definitely very much possible with knife though.

Just. Not likely to happen to an extreme like that most of the time.

Stars need to align for that kind of damage on a boss.

[dire badge]

what would you reccomend as blessings and perks on the knife

[mighty belfry]

Same thing but uncanny is way more valuable for knife.

[calm aurora]

How's the hsword special now?

[mighty belfry]

Good.

You should be using specials in your combos a lot.

[calm aurora]

i tend to loop h1 special on the 7 but looking at path guide maybe i should follow with lights too

also what do you put on the dual stubs in a melee build?

[tranquil fjord]

desperado/run and gun/pinning fire

[calm aurora]

thhx

[low harbor]

run&gun, sustained fire

PF is not good cuz it's not good at stagger beyond the spin shots

[main wagon]

https://tenor.com/view/wile-coyote-looney-tunes-hungry-gif-4531870

To each their own

To be fair, people still willingly play staff psyker so maybe there's a bit of madness in everyone

[mighty belfry]

Yes.

The light after special is, also technically its own special attack.

Medium stagger. Ignores hit mass override from carapace.

It's very good for keeping control of a horde.

[flat mist]

Why is that your preference fivehead

[mighty belfry]

I don't like ragers

And splash damage

[brittle atlas]

their both 18$ in aus.

[flat mist]

Understandable

[wind hamlet]

why cant i pick up stims with hive scumm?

[glacial jay]

You have your own stim, the Cartel Special.

[wind hamlet]

but it doesnt heal

😭

or im doing it wrong

[glacial jay]

Damn dawg, that's crazy. Almost like a new mechanic you have to account for.

[wind hamlet]

it normal?

i thought i was going crazy

[brittle atlas]

i have 30$. each of the DLC classes are 18$ AUSD. which one do i get.

[mighty belfry]

What level are you on scum

[flat mist]

No one likes cops

Be scum

[thin seal]

you can tag the stim and ask your teammates to cleanse you

[wind hamlet]

23

[wind hamlet]

That requires teammates with brains and typing

[brittle atlas]

but funny shotgun

[mighty belfry]

Alright.

Your Cartel Special basically disallows you from picking up stimms.

[brittle atlas]

funny shotgun = loud dakka

[mighty belfry]

All you got is your own home cooked stimm

[flat mist]

scum has more unique guns than the dog molester

[wind hamlet]

Now I know

[brittle atlas]

but shotgun = dakka

[flat mist]

untrue

[brittle atlas]

hmmmmmmmm

[flat mist]

cops lie

[brittle atlas]

shotgun dakka or drugs.

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

bcuz funny doggo is there too

ykw fuck it i want drugs

[spare tartan]

I got scum for the twin guns, I barely use the stim

It's fun

[brittle atlas]

I WANT MEH DRUGS

doggo can wait

[flat mist]

Good lad

We'll get you started on some bongs and before you know it you'll be shelving pingers mainlining heroin

[brittle atlas]

Yay 😄

[main wagon]

[laughs in PC]

I actually don't think console players can see text chat during the match. Only at the end

[wind hamlet]

I’m on pc too

[main wagon]

"stim me pls"

It's uh, very brief

[mighty belfry]

Speaking of stimms

[wind hamlet]

Just like me and women

[mighty belfry]

There is nothing

[main wagon]

[PING]
"hit me"

[mighty belfry]

More maddening to me

[main wagon]

two words kindred

[wind hamlet]

I’ll hit you all night

[mighty belfry]

Than seeing people switch stimms

And simply leaving stimms behind

[main wagon]

And not eat the old one, just leaving it behind?

Heheh

[mighty belfry]

It is

So maddening to me

[main wagon]

Nobody wants celerity stims

But I do

[mighty belfry]

JUST FUCKING TAKE IT

[main wagon]

Because free attack speed wtf

[wind hamlet]

I don’t leave stims behind

[main wagon]

If it's something like desperado, I'll literally pop my ability just so I get value from eating a concentration stim before I move on

[mighty belfry]

I had someone do that a bunch in a havoc last night

[main wagon]

If I walk out of the room and there is an enemy, there will no longer be an enemy

[mighty belfry]

And I told them, "embrace the drugs, stop leaving them behind!"

[main wagon]

When I'm playing my scum, nothing hurts more than having to pass by every stim

Good ones too, like yellows and reds

[mighty belfry]

SAME

[main wagon]

I hate not being able to even buy them for your strike team in Expeditions

You straight up cannot interact with them

We have so much spare salvage because Im orbiting the team like the angriest electron

[mighty belfry]

When you get a team that actually knows to stimm you when they're not gonna use it, it's a wonderful experience

[main wagon]

Just lemme buy the ogryn who just joined with half HP and 0 fucking resources a stim

They should've given us a Killing Floor "throw dosh" button

Or at least a bank terminal to deposit spare cash in

So many times Im literally sitting there with full hands, full ammo + grenades, but one teammate is on the poverty line and I can't do anything for them

[lusty spear]

My good scum, what blessings are good on the tac axe?

[glacial jay]

The one where you throw it in the dumpster.

Because shivs > taxe.

[limber cradle]

I run shred and head taker but BruMom over shred is common

And unyielding/cara cause that's just my havoc default to throw on basically any weapon outside a handful

[limber cradle]

You can stare at them while you shoot once and buy more ammo to get that one penance faster

[main wagon]

https://tenor.com/view/the-boys-butcher-gif-9581937692910259251

[lusty spear]

There a good way to use the crowbar

[flat mist]

Decapitator + all or nothing

Make sure you take Regained Posture aswell

[main wagon]

With Rampage, preferably

[flat mist]

And Splash Damage

[lusty spear]

What bout the bonesaw

[mighty belfry]

Nah

[limber cradle]

Shivs=TAxe=Knife ime

[mighty belfry]

I'd argue tac axe is better because it actually has stagger and brutal momentum with hyperviolence

Is not very balanced.

[lusty spear]

Would thunderous + head taker work on chaxe

[lusty spear]

Man I wish scumster had heavy evisc

Not enough two handed weapons in the game

[low harbor]

just do the normal headtaker + slaughterer combo

[glacial jay]

My guy pulls tons of bitches

[iron saddle]

Is running max stam on tac axe good good 🤔

[astral canyon]

As a perk? No

+25% damage vs armor is way better than +4% attack speed

[iron saddle]

Ah yeah as a perk been trying to get. Third stam curios but ain't dropping

[flat mist]

i just spent 25k melk bucks on curios

literally zero 21% health, 17% tough or 3 stam

but i have like 9 stam, 1 max health and 2 max tough anyway so it doesnt matter

[jovial heron]

Hah

[high kraken]

unlucky

[bronze crown]

https://tenor.com/view/lord-farquaad-smirk-lord-farquaad-lord-farquaad-smirk-gif-14919195

[main wagon]

I didn't realize that was a man

It's him, he's bitches

[fierce python]

im just out here pulling my hawg

[lusty spear]

Scum all over the screen

[fierce python]

🤣 🤣 🤣 🍆

[lusty spear]

Hive Scum

[fierce python]

HogCranker

[flat mist]

@mighty belfry was it you that was obsessed with health maxxing scum awhile ago?

[mighty belfry]

Not obsessed.

But I was basically saying it's better than people give it credit for.

[jovial heron]

Fat scum

[flat mist]

Hyperbole haha

Fat scum feels very nice

[mighty belfry]

As it turns out

45% damage reduction does wonders for toughness retention when you need it.

"New Mod Showcase"
Enemies highlighted

Ain't no fucking way

Welp, the sloptuber has now made the populace aware of modded wallhacks.

Great.

[jovial heron]

Thank god

/s

[austere coyote]

you can tell he's passionate about the game when he's titling videos "sloptide slupdate" lmao

blud has no marketable skills and no way to get off the train for a game he hates

[flat mist]

Ridiculous take

[reef hearth]

what are basic crit chances of dual autopistols and dual stub pistols?
autopistols ROF are probably better choice for Vulture's dodge uptime, right?

[dense hollow]

probably but you don't really need vulture's dodge

[reef hearth]

how so?

i am not super great, starting to getting hang of auric, but still, something to survive for me is always needed .)

i know that desperado makes u dodge ranged attacks, but for melee and if it is on CD, i thought it could help a lot

[dense hollow]

it kinda creates a bad habit and situations where you're relying on vulture's dodge and an unlucky streak makes you not have vulture's dodge when you need it

you'd have to be quite unlucky for guns like dual autopistols, vraks and shredder to not activate vulture's dodge but it's possible even with 30% crit

i'd just rather use scum's powered up dodges, nimble+jittery or even alley rat is more than enough to create the distances you need

[reef hearth]

i guess, even with pistols i will always try to dodge melee anyway
i always use nimble, my reactions arent that good and fps sometimes make it even harder, when i hear the sound of enemy attacking me behind, when should i dodge? when the sound stop or right away? to get perfect counting dodge

[flat mist]

Does anyone know how long revives take at base?

As in no curios

[verbal dew]

answered in psyker chat

[main trellis]

You practice; you improve

[flat mist]

rough game

psyker kept licking the floor

happy with no downs and 260 health damage taken

[lost ravine]

floor tasty

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-lick-lick-zoom-cat-nose-gif-14889846837604371647

[astral canyon]

So true bestie

[digital mango]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TaTj26d2dQ

[main wagon]

Zeus pls

[high kraken]

how do i get my scoreboard to look like this

[flat mist]

Ovenproof's extension

[fierce python]

this video absolutely must be 20 minutes long btw

the only way to fit all the info in

[flat mist]

Yeah its almost as if you're incentivised to pad out and churn out content or you won't stay on people's youtube feeds

[fierce python]

I ❤️ the algo

[jovial heron]

Rage sells

[stuck finch]

Oi, you lads ok today? Been getting toxic HS players all morning for some reason.

[jovial heron]

Toxin is a pretty good DoT that’s why

[stuck finch]

Jokes asides, have the usual shit zealots moved out to HS or something. I don't see that many bad zealots nowadays

[jovial heron]

Probably agree with that sentiment

But jerks are their own class they don’t congregate on just one

[stuck finch]

Agreed on that. Just fuckin' weird getting two in a row like that. One of them bitched at a player going down and quitting which is understandable but then THEY go down and... rage quitted instantly. Like, dude, we serious here?

[jovial heron]

Yeah had somebody like that yesterday was throwing out the regarded word and calling people dumb for not wanting to use mics with him and he was next to useless (scum)

I think scum is just shiny new and has a bit of a main character vibe with how good some of the talents are

[stuck finch]

Does have MC energy, yeah. The other HS was the kind to run across the map but was actually decent but it was clear that the others in the team didn't know what was going on all too well (expedition on this one) We got clobbered by two bosses as the end and he just called everyone worthless MFers. I was trying to keep the team up and he was just fuckin' off and not helping with hordes.

[jovial heron]

Ah yes expeditions. Spread out and die mode. Not really a fan personally. Especially collecting a resource that I can spend on……

[stuck finch]

I like the change of pace and go to it from time to time but I 100% understand why people ain't fussed on it. I'm the same with Mortis in a way

Also, it REALLY needs a training mission to teach people what to do

[jovial heron]

The whole game needs a way to teach mechanics and strategies to players. Like why crit damage perks are mid

[north saddle]

Also map positioning

There is this one map, where after the starting position and the first med station you enter this half open area with sand where there are 3 different ways to advance. One straight ahead through a tunnel (demon hosts like to spawn there), one right above that over stairs and railing and one to the left that leads to an open room behind which the rescue point is, which also leads left to the Elevator and the next sequence.

I HATE HATE HATE HATE IT when people go left,because the usually get boxed in and die, while going above on the elevated sidewalk is WAY BETTER

[hearty fossil]

whats the best stim path for a desperado build? is it reduced cooldown? Or whats the best overall stimpath in general

[bronze glade]

Up to you and build dependent

[hearty fossil]

im mainly going for desperado

[bronze glade]

Yeah it’s really up to you

Top left is probably the least interesting

Bottom left is good for desperado due to reload speed

Top right is good due to rending and damage

Bottom right is good due to cdr

[dense hollow]

use cooldown for more desperado uptime or strength+rending to use during carapace assaults

[hearty fossil]

hmm, ok

i have both bottom paths filled out cause when im done with desperado ill stim and take out my melee and use that till its done charging

does the 6.25% reduced cooldown stack on top of the 75% one as well?

theres 4 or 5 of the 6.25 ones if im not mistaken

[dense hollow]

yeah but i typically dont really use the cooldown for 1 sec on kill anymore

i just use the consistent +25%

[hearty fossil]

i figured that one would be better for just total overall reduction

[dense hollow]

it is kinda more consistent

sometimes you're not getting a kill every second

cdr also has diminishing returns

[hearty fossil]

true but im only ever using desperado in a big fight where theres tons of enemies, but i can see how the consistency would be better overall

[dense hollow]

the cd only starts when you're out of desperado and if you kill the blob of poxwalkers too fast you also dont get to proc it anymore

its just comfier thats all

mostly preference tho

u either dont get enough kills or kill everything and dont have anything to kill anymore

or ur teammates can kill them too