hivescum-class

[spice cloud]

But i allways thought that extra 5% on everything would be worth but alas

[low harbor]

but adrenaline is the best keystone for hive scum's best melee weapon

[upbeat pendant]

ok yeah nvm desp is still fine as a pure ranged build. just dont play rotten armor and it'll be fine

this was stims, 21

[subtle yacht]

Can anyone help with this please? Thanks

[astral lintel]

is hyper critical still bugged to not let buffs reliant on kills to proc?

[plucky nymph]

anyone figure out what combo of blessing / talents to make the bone saw not take 6 yrs to kill some h40 trash mobs but also not go too much into cleave and still pump dmg

[low harbor]

could drop nimble

[plucky nymph]

Whats the talent you have on the left of street tough? Idk new order but I nvr use whatever that is

[astral lintel]

im not really knowledgeable of hive scum, but only ones i can see is nimble or the sweet spot.

[astral lintel]

hyper violence

[plucky nymph]

O yea I’m a hyper critty kinda homie nvm

[astral lintel]

im not quite sure how it works. i assume it's whatever dmg the final blow was minus the current hp of the thing

[bronze crown]

Is there a consensus on which taxe Mk is best for HS now?

[woeful hill]

Was there ever a debate?

Mk7 is best general

Mk4 is light spam

Mk2 is off brand 7

[bronze crown]

I didn't know since the new patch, this Klay is really moreish. I heard 4 before the patch and was wondering about the 7. Thank you.

[woeful hill]

4 lacks sweeping heavies to make use of brutal momentum but can be built into a funny light spam for everything with shred headtaker/deci

7 is way more general in both single and horde clear

[astral lintel]

any general guidance for melee weapons on hive scum? i was liking crowbar and was searching for people's thoughts, and everyone is saying it's bad. i dont know much of hive scum and would like to know more of scum

[bronze crown]

Are Mk 1 Shivs still the meta after they got nerfed in the new patch? Crowbar got a buff but and is fun but I think they are still considered mid tier. Bone Saw is good on Chem builds but I have never used it. Any thing with high crit and fast swings is good. I just have a preference for being a Klay head with a tactical axe. I would say it is in the top 3 or 4.

If you like swords the Combat Blade is viable and some say the Devil Claw is low but others like a parry based build for I think?

[astral lintel]

what's a klay?

[bronze crown]

40K ganger slang for a Combat Stim that is like super coke.

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Klay_(Narcotic)

[astral lintel]

lol

[flat mist]

Klay is also a node on the stimm tree

[soft ridge]

What's the better ability on Scum? Rampage or Stimm Supply?

[zenith fern]

All three

[soft ridge]

Fair lol

I might try Reginald's Chemist build, not sure if it's good or not

[rancid yew]

I am really curious what meta for hive scum. Does anyone know what are must have perks on the skill yree and why.

At the moment i just use a build from someone else but i would love to learn more about the game lol

I guess high crit fast hitting builds are the way to go...

[flat mist]

Just keep asking questions, as specific as possible

Bc thats a very broad question to answer

Like what sort of build do you want? Melee?

[rancid yew]

Like what is meta hivescum in general i guess.
I am playing melee atm

[flat mist]

Rampage, stim supply, shivs, tac axe, needle pistol - all very meta

Most weapons are good on scum

[rancid yew]

Yeah using shivs atm. What build for melee hive scum would you use?

[flat mist]

Something like this is good. Strong defense, offense, cdr and infinite ammo

[rancid yew]

Pls share link

[flat mist]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a16a7c3a-ecf9-4294-8f0b-4312cbb12acc/shiv-melee-scum-2

[rancid yew]

Thank you

[flat mist]

No worries

[rancid yew]

I just need to read through the skill three a few times and see what everything does lol

Always just used someone elses build without caring much xd

[flat mist]

If you're not sure how something works kuli's guide in the pins is great, or ask here

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3586590987

[rancid yew]

Very in depth. Exactly what i was looking for lol

[upbeat pendant]

rampage melee scum builds usually follow the same format except for some talent points which are personal preference like the dodge nodes and pickpocket

[dusk dock]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vd3_LmxK4nU

[hasty mauve]

Hmm, I'm not sure if I prefer to run adrenaline assassin or smiter...

[bronze glade]

assassin is ass

smiter's just better

[hasty mauve]

You think so?

[bronze glade]

you can aim at head level and melee all game

and end up with 50% weakspot rate

so in other words, you'd be getting the same number of stacks

[hasty mauve]

Hm, that's fair

[bronze glade]

if you hadn't wasted a point lol

you're killing trash all the time, so smiter causes stackign really fast

and elites give what, 15 stacks?

so it's just super efficient

[spice cloud]

The new scum tree is ass

All these tax nodes are pissing me off

Dont want long lasting dont want sample collector…….

Why is that shit mandatory now

[limber cradle]

Cause someone at FS really liked the stimm nodes and saw no one used them so by God you're gonna use the stimm nodes

[spice cloud]

https://tenor.com/view/dead-7tv-zade-twitch-emoji-gif-7029679971352650665

https://tenor.com/view/death-gif-20834117

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-insanity-monkey-insanity-gif-18025127

[bronze glade]

sample collector isn't really a tax node tho

well unless you're running a build without tox ig

you could skip it on some builds anyway

[trim wind]

The sampler is good regardless

[hasty mauve]

Oh, that's interesting

Assault chain axe doesn't always give you adrenaline smiter stacks

I am assuming this is a bug lol

Assault chain axe, if you get a kill with any damage instance than the initial damage, doesn't give adrenaline stacks from smiter

[heavy compass]

Is needler way better than auto machine gunsb for auric / havoc 25-30? I like auto machine gun but can change to needler if needed

[zenith pagoda]

I assume it's for all shredders

Fatshark moment

[tranquil fjord]

sigh

[spice cloud]

That is not too bad but i think just having to take it for the middle aura is ass

Long lasting i mean

Long lasting is sonuseless

Well not entirely but its just not good

Like they just remade most of the classes trees to not have these tax nodes infront of auras/abilitys why cant they never fckn learn

[bronze glade]

long lasting and the corruption clean nodes are pretty useless

[spice cloud]

Im telling u this tree is gonna be reworked again

[bronze glade]

but i guess every tree needs taxes

[spice cloud]

Ye

Allright enough ranting im gonna smoke and calm down

I am however LOVING the new stub pistols

Very fun on expeditions

[lilac schooner]

sample good unless you dont run stimms at all

[spice cloud]

I really only use it as cdr between abilitys

Even with the crate i feel like i dont get much use out of it tbh.

[astral lintel]

what makes crowbar subpar?

[livid raven]

Slow, doesn't hit hard, shit blessings, low cleave, clunky special to switch targets

Also latch on

[lavish bronze]

this would not be a problem if there was less enemy density

[lilac schooner]

its one of the only ways to make horde shooters harder without turning everything into bullet sponges

[lavish bronze]

game can be plenty hard without mass armour spam

as we have now

[lilac schooner]

what can they do

[lavish bronze]

nerf player classes for one

yes its needed

however we all know it aint gonna happen

[lilac schooner]

theyd have to kneecap psyker specifically because thats the class that trivalizes h40 then hivescum

[bronze glade]

considering the minor freakout the server had over a slap on the wrist for pickpocket

i'd love to see what happens if psyker or HIV got proper nerfs 🍿

[lavish bronze]

arby vet scum and psyker need to be brought down to zealots lvl

and all of 119 weapons need a look at

[lilac schooner]

imo pickpocket nerf was unwarranted for h40 play, but it was terrorizing auric which 90% of people play

[bronze glade]

it was warranted everywhere

gamemode has nothing to do with it

[lilac schooner]

you dont play havoc 😭

[bronze glade]

unlimited ammo just shouldn't be a thing

[lilac schooner]

yes it does

[bronze glade]

if anything it should have internal timers

but fatshart's too much of a pussy to do that

[lilac schooner]

internal timer with old pickpocket would actually be less of a nerf

than how they did it

[bronze glade]

lol

god forbid

[lavish bronze]

only weapon that can have fully infinite ammo is helbore with shocktrooper on vet

[bronze glade]

a desperado scum needs to use melee every once in a wihle

[lavish bronze]

it should be this and 2 minute cooldown

[lilac schooner]

vet I feel like is worse than zealot now, whereas zealot still has best support ability in game and fills the bosskilling niche the best too

[lavish bronze]

everybody discredits zealot

but he can stun everything in place with the book

while giving very good bonuses

[lilac schooner]

yeah zealot is not bad team wise and still gets consistently taken on havocs

[lavish bronze]

one thing i would do to piss toguhness

is that you cant regen it after its gone

[lilac schooner]

thats not a bad idea

[lavish bronze]

its certainly better than removing the mechanic altogether

like some people suggest

[lilac schooner]

but they if they did that shout would probably need a buff its pretty cheeks with the new cd

[lavish bronze]

no it does not need a buff

even with that

[topaz adder]

hello ive been playing ogryn recently and i would like to petition all scummers to remember how slow we are

[lilac schooner]

i havent used shout since the tac awareness nerf its that bad

that was before they even tacked 10 more seconds and decreased gold time

[lavish bronze]

idk i rarely use shout on vet

[lilac schooner]

40 second cooldown for a one second knockdown is really unimpactful and that's one of your only sources of toughness regen too, exe stance just makes more sense for its uptime and toughness regen

[near mauve]

the cooldown isnt 40 seconds if you're killing things

none of the cooldowns in this game are real lmao

[astral lintel]

lol i feel ya

[icy scaffold]

Las pistol too, recon lasgun is practically infinite.

[lavish bronze]

helbore has truly infinite because of surgical

you are not wrong

[icy scaffold]

Psyker has inferno and Voidblast staff for infinite too

[lavish bronze]

they have a downside of you being able to blow up yourself

[icy scaffold]

With Vent and Gaze? Practically impossible

[astral lintel]

what's scum's better/best melee weps?

[lavish bronze]

shivs

[astral lintel]

thanks

[icy scaffold]

I think Fatshark should have hit Desperado’s range immunity over Pickpocket

[astral lintel]

it's a pretty good panic button though

[lilac schooner]

i mean compared to the other panic button abilities that give full toughness/knockback it's one of the longest cds and shortest effects

thats ogryn taunt, arbi btl/casti, hivescum rampage, zealot chorus

[astral lintel]

interesting. i like how pickpocket was changed to melee kills, but i do think ranged immunity is crazy. idk how one would tackle it though. 50% ranged dr instead? 🤷‍♂️

[lilac schooner]

not to mention vet cdr method is really bad its specials only unlike every other class

[near mauve]

i mean a good vet should be THE special killer

and auric is just special spam now

[astral lintel]

woe upon thee, 4 poxbursters

[lilac schooner]

it doesnt really matter theres an internal cd on tac awareness too

[icy scaffold]

It’s part of what allows Scum to just run around and blast away. Hitting that means they can’t just hang out in the open mowing down everything. Keeps it as a true glass cannon. I wouldn’t even give ranged DR

[astral lintel]

yeah it seems likes the weakest with that comparison, but it's still pretty good itself. having on demand space is powerful to bail you and teammates out of something like bad position or special disables, and gold toughness i guess

[astral lintel]

fair. i would love to see a world wothout ranged immunity on desperado

desper was the first build i did for scum and it was pretty strange having good dodges and ignoring stuff aside crushers with the machine guns

bit boring, but that's prolly just me

[lilac schooner]

desperado would be the shittiest subclass if that happened lol

you're basically only given close range weaponry so your only hope is to run straight into gunfire

[unreal stirrup]

inferno nah

voidblast yeau

[near mauve]

but it would make the playstyle actually require some skill

desprado rn is press w and spam dodge kill everything and be immune to gunners

[bronze glade]

hood psyker moment

[astral lintel]

does anyone have a melee build for shivs? i looked in pins for a guidance but it looks outdated

[icy scaffold]

Or just dodge gunners like every other class has to.

[astral lintel]

strange non-connecting nodes.
also do y'all like +5 stim duration or cleanse duration nodes? they look lackluster but idk if im making an oversight

[lilac schooner]

worst arguement ever, same as telling psykers just use melee like every other class has to

[astral lintel]

we got some blinder nades, shiv special, and good dodges/mobility too with some anti-chip. it would be a rude awakening but i think no ranged imm could survive

[astral lintel]

when i think of desperado im thinking of the machine guns ideally. idk if peeps use the autopistols or needle gun on desper

[lilac schooner]

theres no point in desperado scum either, psyker does it better cause they do carapace damage and have bubble

also melee scum is top tier and does more dps than both

[astral lintel]

well that's unfortunate

[icy scaffold]

Technically they have to to deal with crushers or hordes depending on which staff they’re using. If you’re using close range desperado guns then you’re just gonna have to close the distance like every other class

[astral lintel]

as in gunker? never played guns on psyker before 👀

[lilac schooner]

melee hs just does crazy damage and can carry

[lilac schooner]

nah why would you play gunker when you got infinite ammo staves

[astral lintel]

stimmothy meets stabbitha

[astral lintel]

idk just double checking. i never was a gunker or scrier's gaze/disrupt destiny fan so never learned what it could effectively do

[lilac schooner]

both the meta staves deal with both cara and hordes while gun hs cannot deal with cara but they can hordes

[astral lintel]

gunker has boss dmg i think going for it, but that's about all i know

[icy scaffold]

Inferno does not deal with carapace bruh

By itself anyways

[lilac schooner]

compared to staves, but any other class gonna give them a run for their money like thunderhammer or just melee scum

[astral lintel]

the fabled uncanny force sword tech will become real in 5 seconds

[lilac schooner]

yeah they do especially with venting

[icy scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/how-do-we-tell-him-mr-krabs-spongebob-meme-spongebob-meme-gif-24063814

[astral lintel]

how come you don't go with the adrenaline keystone?

[bronze glade]

i mean infernus does deal with carapace, it just takes extra steps

the staff itself doesn't really do it

[astral lintel]

where's a shield ogryn with brittle on push when you need one

[lilac schooner]

ive tried both but chem gives more consistent results

its more forgiving cause you get some tdr and cdr is nice to for rampage

[icy scaffold]

Exactly

[lilac schooner]

were talking about the subclass themself like how desperado is still bad into crushers no matter what, while inferno psyker is not

[near mauve]

desprado player can just take rockets for crushers

or shivs

[zenith fern]

You forgetting one thing, they unbinded the melee key

[astral lintel]

(edited)
😏
👉👉

[shrewd chasm]

can yall rate my hive scum build

[astral lintel]

4/5 rashuns

[shrewd chasm]

i wanna go into havoc games and stuff maelstrom like that

i wanna go into maelstrom and havoc missions and i wanna knoow if this is a decent build

[astral lintel]

i haven't used stim crate before. not really sure how to use it effectively

[bronze crown]

I was enjoying the Vraks V Desperado build but I could only handle 6 crushers solo max. It was fun while it lasted because I was Zealot at launch and range was a nice change up for me.

[shrewd chasm]

i use it very supportively... when i get my stim i move to where my teammates are which is why fast acting is very nice... i will disengage to help others

[astral lintel]

i don't recognize all these talents, but you should pick up adrenaline smiter subnode. stacks on kill. since you got a good amount of melee buffs kills are good, and you get them rapidly on elite kills

[bronze crown]

I have heard it is good for extending rad resistance time in expeditions and there is a good shredder pistol and bonesaw with toxin synergy.

[astral lintel]

what's shredder pistol

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-thinking-monkey-thinking-think-money-gif-9734025314392564509

is that the machine guns

[bronze glade]

it's the brrrrrt pistol

that isn't dualie

[icy scaffold]

The single uzi

[astral lintel]

ohh the tiny funky animation obe

one

[bronze crown]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/weapons/shredder-autopistol/ius-mk-iv-shredder-autopistol

[shrewd chasm]

???? whats the talent name exactly?

[plucky nymph]

any h40 bonesaw enthusiasts in chat

[bronze crown]

I prefer dual autos over it and imo and Vraks V out classes both but have seen builds with stim supply use it with insane short reload times and continuous fire.

[astral lintel]

adrenaline smiter i believe

it's the right side of the adrenaline keystone

[shrewd chasm]

so i have to ask is the dual autopistols better than the shredder? i mean it does more damage and has more ammo it seems

[astral lintel]

being pinned by a poxhoynd ehlp

it wnats dog treats

[bronze glade]

it's not bad against crushers "no matter what" tho

even with desperado off

and just rending stimm

it does decently well

[astral lintel]

what a nice gun

[bronze glade]

oh it would be even faster if i took carapace damage

i have crit/unyielding on my vraks

[shrewd chasm]

targeted toxin? this one?

[astral lintel]

no i mean the subnode of the adrenaline frenzy keystone

[shrewd chasm]

is that numbers popping up a mod? reminds me of the custom payday 2 HUD i had lol

[bronze crown]

What are the chances of us retroactively getting more HS cosmetics for the Expedition and Havoc Penances if we have already completed them?

[astral lintel]

the one above "adrenaline is increased from 2s to 4s" one

[bronze glade]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/621

yup

[shrewd chasm]

ohhhh i went right until i couldnt lol

[astral lintel]

ur gud

[astral lintel]

unsure. i assume shredder has more mobility

[shrewd chasm]

anyway what do you think i should swap out for it

[bronze glade]

shredder is prob roughly on par with dual autos

[shrewd chasm]

it does a teensy bit less damage for maybe a bit more stagger but im not sure i dont have a maxed out completely shredder just have its damage and ammo at 80% same with my dual autopistols

[bronze glade]

they do less raw damage

[lilac schooner]

really gonna rending stimm to kill 2 crushers every time theres a wave of 6 of them

[bronze glade]

but more finesse

and also a faster reload keeps up your damage output

[vapid jungle]

Stronger stagger too I thinks

[bronze glade]

yeah ofc

[bronze glade]

could rocket launcher or just shiv the survivors 🤷

[astral lintel]

trying to read up hive scum talents to figure out

[lilac schooner]

i mean your popping all your cooldowns to kill like 2 crushers its not really that efficient

desperado + stimms

[shrewd chasm]

also gotta ask what do yall think a good melee weapon is for my range only build
rn im running bonesaw but do yall think there is a better option

[lost ravine]

desperadon't do this

[lilac schooner]

not to mention its like one mag each with the pickpocket nerf

[trim wind]

shivs

[astral lintel]

i don't know if you need unload talent. im unsure what your weapons are, but you could probably sacrifice that talent for it?
@shrewd chasm

[lost ravine]

pretty much anything other than bonesaw

knife good shivs good tac axe good

[bronze glade]

you were saying that desperado is bad against crushers, the point is that it clearly isn't

[shrewd chasm]

ok cause i wanna use combat knife as i already have a shiv and axe loadout

[astral lintel]

oh yeah, does hyper critical and hyper violence work together? i saw hyper crit got fixed so it counts for on-kill procs like adrenaline, but i can't tell if the kill threshold helps or steals the extra overkill damage for hyper violence

[near mauve]

just take 4 rockets plus shivs and u kill crushers
throw 2 shiv knives then finish bro in melee

[lilac schooner]

it is bad, because that is not a realistic situation it wont be 2 crushers just sitting still while you have all your cooldowns up

[near mauve]

if u get 2 pickups in mission that's 8 extra rockets

[bronze glade]

yeah it's not that complicated lol

[lost ravine]

i am told if hypercrit triggers it does not add to hyperviolence

[near mauve]

if u find at least 1 ammo crate that's extra rockets

[bronze glade]

that's potentially true of any ability

[astral lintel]

i assume shivs can work well with either, but working with both sounds too good to be true

[bronze glade]

hardly unique to desperado

[lilac schooner]

other classes dont need their abilities to kill like a couple crushers lol

[near mauve]

other classes cant press w to be immune to ranged

[bronze glade]

and neither does desperado hiv

as i demonstrated in my clip

[shrewd chasm]

here is how my ranged loadout looks what do yall think?

[astral lintel]

shivs for kiting and just good. anything could work i suppose if you're good enough, but shiv is probably a good starting ground

[lilac schooner]

they press f like hivescum (bubble)

[astral lintel]

darn that's unfortunate

but it felt like that was the case when i tried testing last night

[near mauve]

bubble is stationary i pop desprado and mow down the entire room

melee enimies cant touch u and ranged cant hurt u

only thing that can stop u is armor blobs and u rocket them

[lilac schooner]

it doesnt matter im arguing with auric players

[astral lintel]

what would have more priority for shiv? hyper violence to chain kill or hyper critical to one tap better?

[astral lintel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1013313294368514149/1391205068274925668/i1m1ki4954bf1.gif

[near mauve]

i have played both auric and havoc so u cant pull that card on me

[trim wind]

i only play sedition

[astral canyon]

both

[lilac schooner]

its what you mainly play, obviously anyone level 30 can play a havoc

[near mauve]

i have cleared havoc 40 before

not on scum tho

on my boy zealot

[zenith fern]

Both, it works good for melees with high finesse stats

[lilac schooner]

ive carried fresh level 30s on havoc it doesnt mean anything to just clear one 40 lol

[trim wind]

i only play normal realism in l4d1

[astral lintel]

but if hyper critical's bonus dmg doesn't add to hyper violence, wouldn't it be a nerf?

[near mauve]

it means i played enough to give an opinion

this isnt a dick measuring contest lol

[astral lintel]

hi ik u got overlooked i'll check u out soon

[near mauve]

and the game isnt balanced around havoc anyway

[astral canyon]

hyper critical isnt bonus damage

[lilac schooner]

your opinion is for auric what you mainly play where everything is viable

[compact oyster]

Hyper critical is an instakill so it doesnt generate overkill damage for hyper violence to be used

[lilac schooner]

yes desperado is viable there, havoc 40 it is not

[zenith fern]

For a ranged build that's lot of viscosity

You rather just take top right branch

[astral canyon]

doesn't matter if the crit would already kill the enemy

[compact oyster]

Desperado needle pistol

[near mauve]

most things arent "viable" in havoc 40 cause havoc sucks

[shrewd chasm]

dw im asking the general hive scum chat you arent head scum build master id hope

[astral lintel]

lol no. i'm trying to learn hive scum like you

[lilac schooner]

well there you go, it does filter out whats actually bad and good

[trim wind]

i just run mimic tear and clear havoc 40 no problem with my faith/meth build

[shrewd chasm]

i see i understand what about the talents

[near mauve]

it doesnt filter out bad stuff it just enforces certain things cause its enemy spam with bullshit modifiers

of course the ult that doesnt mow down cara is gonna suffer in the mode that throws 10000000000 at u

[astral lintel]

desperado would ignore the buffed gunners and give you infinite ammo for its duration no? even if you couldn't use ur ranged, being able to run in the open or pop it to get a rez when gunners are on you seems strong

[spare elk]

smite spammers in havoc when it isnt red buff

[astral lintel]

ofc there's more than just gunners, but rockets clearing the room could present that situation

[near mauve]

tbh i can see desprado being good there in an organized comp
just let your psyker burn all the armor blobs

and u zoom around mow down ranged and specials

[astral lintel]

what's your ranged weapon?

[lilac schooner]

gunners are really not a problem in meta teams bubble just negates them, its armor blobs that most teams struggle with

[near mauve]

armor blobs is the worst thing to happen to dt

[lilac schooner]

its because psyker melts anything thats not armor, and still melts armor but slowly

[lost ravine]

armor blobs are excellent actually

[near mauve]

crusher as an enemy was not designed to have 20000 of them coming at u

[lost ravine]

i love armor blobs (and i hate most of our weapon roster because it sucks into armor)

[near mauve]

for starters their footsteps get fked

[spare elk]

bulwarks n crusher blobs are amazing

[near mauve]

i love silent crushers

[spare elk]

but personally i have a special love for toxic bombers

[lilac schooner]

smite is one of the strong builds if you ran it in auric it would also carry games it just slows down the game though similar to chorus

[shrewd chasm]

dual autopistols but it could be swapped for shredder when i feel like it

[zenith fern]

I don't play desperado but I think the build looks decent, are you using the 15% ammo clip increase though?

[spare elk]

strong build that makes bad habits for newer players

[shrewd chasm]

[zenith fern]

I don't think you need the 15% ammo clip for duals I would say

Those things already have massive magazines

[shrewd chasm]

but so much boolet

go brrrrr

[zenith fern]

When I hear the phrase "I came to Darktide for its ranged combat only because I played other shooter hordes"

https://tenor.com/view/squid-game-oh-my-god-bruh-saleswoman-oh-my-god-bruh-gif-2398788864743270124

[lilac schooner]

agreed but i feel like thats psyker as a class, its a whole different playstyle playing psyker tbh

[astral lintel]

does anyone know if reflex stim node is still bugged where it gives +50% recoil instead of -50% recoil

[shrewd chasm]

i also just realised it is my only access to pickpocket lol

[compact oyster]

tide series popularly known for melee combat

[shrewd chasm]

its not

[astral lintel]

yippe

that was fixed

[zenith fern]

Tell that to reddit after pickpocket change

[near relic]

sickening

[verbal dew]

the anti-build

the destroy

[zenith fern]

"smite is one of strongest build if ran in auric"

[astral lintel]

replacing the 15% clip for the stam = attack speed probably is good.
i don't know if the extra reload speed from stim labs is needed. you could theoretically make your stim a cooldown reduction variant instead for more uptime on desperado for more infinite pew pews.
idk how strong rending stims would help you. check in the meat grinder if you notice anything impactful with it vs auto pistols or shredder

[spare elk]

do u remember shredder vet on the old executioner stance?

now thats what cod is

[zenith fern]

Veteran hitting that Sprint tactical

Gotta wall jump, jump every corner

[lilac schooner]

honestly it would be power crept in havoc nowadays

you could not swap weapons and it has zero carapace damage

also your not invincible to gunfire unlike desperado

[shrewd chasm]

what is the perks i am supposed to use with a compat knife

probably carapace and something elese

[zenith fern]

Exe stance has insane toughness regen

[spare elk]

old excution stance u were basically untouchable from ranged fire

[astral lintel]

carapace and flak seem fine

[zenith fern]

Flak/Cara and unyielding

[shrewd chasm]

ok unyeilding enemies are some enemies do i know exactly what

not really

but that is more damage to them

[zenith fern]

Unyielding is for monsters, reapers and bulwarks

(if you don't hit the armored bits)

[astral lintel]

pretty much unarmored ogryn and monster entities yeah

[shrewd chasm]

i thought thats maniacs lol so then what is maniacs

[astral lintel]

i wonder what armor parts the new packmaster boss has

[verbal dew]

ragers, flamers, mutants

[astral lintel]

maniacs is specials and unarmored (dreg) berserker

[astral canyon]

dreg rager, flamers, trapper, mutant

[zenith fern]

Specials, dreg ragers

(Except hound)

[astral lintel]

sniper and bombers are unarmored, pox hound is infested, and the rest are maniac

[astral canyon]

also bombers and sniper

[astral lintel]

poxburster is infested i think too

[verbal dew]

bombers and trapper aren't maniac right?

[zenith fern]

You can see the enemies armor types in the meat grinder

[astral canyon]

trapper is maniac

[zenith fern]

Trapper is

[lost ravine]

bomber used to be but now is unarmored/flak

[astral lintel]

she a maniac 🤪

[verbal dew]

ig trapper folds to so much anyway

[zenith fern]

Banger song fr

Honestly more half of time I forget bomber and snipers aren't maniac because they go down easy anyway

[lost ravine]

is that the real my stinky

[lilac schooner]

ARMORED DOG IS CARAPACE FLAK *

[zenith fern]

Eh

They spawn rarely

[astral canyon]

armored dog is irrelevant :3

[verbal dew]

ass is unarmored I beleive

or infested

[lost ravine]

unarmored ass sounds okay
infested ass notsomuch

[zenith fern]

Until FS adds pack master to missions

[trim wind]

i keep my ass out and accessible

[lilac schooner]

no theyre in havocs

idk about auric

[zenith fern]

The boss?

[lilac schooner]

the dog

[zenith fern]

Very rare to spawn

You only see about one or two lol

[lilac schooner]

I feel like they were spawning as often as regular dogs, it seems like how bombers have two counterparts

[zenith fern]

If it is a loner armored dog, it is a nothing issue

[lost ravine]

they appear every now and then

makes you go "oh, armored dog"

then you onetap it and move on

[zenith fern]

People still were worried about carapace hound was gonna make game harder lol

Armored dogs without packmaster are just an easy enemy

But with the master, they are more a distraction to the player

[lost ravine]

singular dog that takes one more swing than usual (maybe)

[zenith fern]

The power creep is dying, no more one hit kills

[verbal dew]

hound hordes in expeditions are evil tho

[spare elk]

toxic bombers are worse

[verbal dew]

ye but those aren't a modifier

that's just every dreg round

[spare elk]

yeah tho hound hordes isnt bad

just gotta keep shoving

[astral lintel]

it's so terrfying lmao

[verbal dew]

I'd take vortexes over hounds any day

[spare elk]

wait till they make it so u take rad damage from it

expeditons rn is so underbaked

barely anyone wants to play it imo

[verbal dew]

I enjoy it, I've only played expeditions or havoc since the update

[astral lintel]

i've heard concern that once you finish unlocking all of the levels, there really isn't much of a reason to keep doing them

[verbal dew]

I've not done much scum on expeditions

I mean the reason is that it's fun

like all other gamemodes

which is why I don't play mortis

[spare elk]

havoc gives weeklies rewards at least

[verbal dew]

irrelevant rewards

for anyone with enough hours

[spare elk]

for the top havoc players yes

and average ppl who play alot

[astral lintel]

the havoc rewards didn't feel too big, but i never paid attention

[verbal dew]

havoc is miserable 15-30

[astral lintel]

im near max with the stuff i want anyways, so prolly doesn't affect me

[lost ravine]

it is a big chunk of materials

[verbal dew]

so if you're that new and doing them then I feel for ya

[lost ravine]

but i think most players who go into havoc no longer need them

[astral lintel]

ur a big chunknof materialsn

[verbal dew]

yeah I got in to havoc late

[lost ravine]

can't believe my stery would call me fat 😔

[spare elk]

wait till they add a new tier above legendary

make it 10x the plasteel to upgrade

[astral lintel]

evilstery arc begins now

[lost ravine]

😭

[verbal dew]

still not enough

[lost ravine]

weapon stats now go up to 100%..

[unreal stirrup]

literally free cdr

[unreal stirrup]

that would make a lot of weapon busted really

[astral lintel]

finally, crowbar will be goated 🙏

i just realized today crowbar has built in thrust. i was wondering why i kept getting stacks when charging it

[verbal dew]

I can't do thrust

it's not how I play

[astral lintel]

i love thrust

[spare elk]

yes

doggos arent that scary if u know how to loop your shoves to never get pounced on

[astral lintel]

i like slow heavy hitting weapons. branx pick with thrust and crunch is what i live for

[bronze crown]

https://tenor.com/view/duckman-the-funky-duckman-thrust-your-pelvis-thrust-pelvis-gif-3837870161636418316

[verbal dew]

my uptime every time I try thrust is ass

[unreal stirrup]

thrust is very breakpoint dependent

[unreal stirrup]

If you can hit bp with it then it good

[verbal dew]

I mean I'm not talking whether if it's good or not

I just can't do it

[unreal stirrup]

tbf it is shit in most case

[verbal dew]

it feels wrong

[spare elk]

thammer users : Its free real estate

but on hive scum nah

[verbal dew]

yeah but even then I still suck at using it

[spare elk]

same for me using alley rat

every ledge is like a magical gravitational pull

[verbal dew]

alley rat was just old nimble so I've had plenty of time to get used to it

[spare elk]

I like switching between multiple classes so having alley rat on will just mess me up habit wise

[verbal dew]

ye I get it, I just don't really have that problem when I switch

[tough breach]

ey sorry tobother but whats the dump stat for the dual stub pistols?

[astral canyon]

collateral

[tough breach]

ty

[edgy kayak]

This is going to sound dumb

but whats the proper way to fight ragers groups?

I have spent too long playing classes that just stagger them to hell

[low harbor]

depends on what ur build has

and which rager type ur fighting

generally speaking, weapons that can stagger multiple of them will fair better (especially vs dreg ragers)

[icy scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/indiana-jones-indy-indy-shoot-indiana-jones-shoot-gif-11261522097321369778

[edgy kayak]

So hows Hive Scum going

[unreal stirrup]

fun fact: netter can shoot through shit like fence on some map

[zenith fern]

what a play from both trapper and burster

[sleek raptor]

What's best dump for dual stub pistols?

[astral canyon]

collat

[edgy kayak]

A wombo combo for the ages

[jovial heron]

https://giphy.com/gifs/manutd-mufc-ggmu-sabitzer-4hqAaMZZ3U0RHQoWM1

nothing but net

[zenith fern]

Should have unetted yourself when you had the less of second chance

[sleek raptor]

and what are the best blessings/perks for stubs?

[zenith fern]

maniac flak

[edgy kayak]

Also I'm pretty sure my teammate shot the burster

so add a betreyal in there as well

[zenith fern]

Same place lmao

[edgy kayak]

lmao

[jade elm]

does anyone else crash when trying to use the stim box in meat grinder? trying to figure out if it's vanilla or mods

[loud herald]

could be mods but lemme do a lil google for ya

[jade elm]

i mean i'd rather have someone try, i know how to google things

especially with so many patches a lot of stuff isn't up to date

[loud herald]

oh I misread

i'll check for you

testing time

[icy scaffold]

Test deez

[loud herald]

are there any other talents you take with the stimm box @jade elm

or just stimm box

[jade elm]

booby trap and practiced deployment

[loud herald]

alr

[woeful hill]

cute pfp, but did you get your question answered?

[loud herald]

i'm about to test

[jade elm]

sosu

[loud herald]

is it literally just like

you put it down

crash

[woeful hill]

sosu indeed

[jade elm]

I press F and straight to desktop

[woeful hill]

https://tenor.com/view/made-in-abyss-faputa-dance-dancing-gif-3595787778881909451

[loud herald]

lemme check

i'm in here now

nope

no crash

[jade elm]

😩

[woeful hill]

Dumb question but I always check

any mods?

[jade elm]

i don't know what would cause it except for gaurantee ability activation?

[woeful hill]

very possible

it got updated like 4 times when scum released

[loud herald]

I was about to say I found a reddit thread from like

6 days ago

[woeful hill]

with all the weird interaction with scum it had

[loud herald]

about stimm crate crashing game

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/1s16y0p/stim_supply_crash/

comments are saying scoreboard is buggy af rn

idk if you have that

[jade elm]

i do

[loud herald]

then try turning it off

see if that works

if that reddit thread is to be believed

[jade elm]

I would think animation events updating would fix that but

[loud herald]

yeahhhh

it's a week old thread so maybe that might work

lmk if it does

[jade elm]

I'm in game again so i don't wanna disable it rn but i'll try it later

thankiesss

[loud herald]

yeye np

[upbeat pendant]

It is scoreboard mod that crashes you when you throw the stim crate down

The modding discord has a fix for it

[upbeat pendant]

I can dm you the fix if you want

[jade elm]

i would appreciate that

[coral mirage]

any update on if the crowbars good ye?

[bronze glade]

lol

[mighty belfry]

most likely mods

pretty sure it's connected to scoreboard and there's a fix for it in the modders discord

[jade elm]

Yeah i got it. I think actually the vermintide scoreboard plugin was the problem

[astral lintel]

what makes rashad combat axe pretty good? i dont use axes much but gave it a spin and it seemed like it can handle everything well aside bulwarks

[flat mist]

For future reference there's a modding discord aswell: https://discord.gg/rKYWtaDx4D

[bronze glade]

has no weaknesses besides requiring melee investment, and is good at everything

it's prob the strongest hiv weapon

[near mauve]

hiv 🤨

[sonic pumice]

how is it supposed to be run the 2Barrel shotgun on scum?

[bronze glade]

what else would i call it

[bronze glade]

i used stimm box and dependency

prepare to reload a lot

[sonic pumice]

mind sharing how does it look a build for it?

[bronze glade]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a0909dc2-3b46-4c65-86f5-738473a4a423/hood-psyker

could try something like this

it focuses on using both barrels

instead of triple barrel shots

mostly because i think both barrels feels smoother to play lol

idk if they fixed stimm box, but you should abuse the bug for crit chance uptime if they haven't fixed it

[sonic pumice]

the crit whatnow?

[low harbor]

there's an updated version of it if u haven't gotten

[bronze glade]

crit chance from stimm mostly

[low harbor]

also u don't need animation events

[jade elm]

this was the issue

[astral lintel]

fascinating

thank you

[low harbor]

1 tap 4 ragers per light attack
and u save points by not needing +cleave talents (outside of rampage)
top tier single target dmg

[bronze glade]

i forget, is animation events needed for ovenproofs too?

[low harbor]

if u don't check stagger, no

[bronze glade]

i remember downloading it because it was a dependency for something scoreboard related

[low harbor]

which I think 99.99% of people won't care about

[bronze glade]

oh idc about that lol

[low harbor]

I just use base scoreboard from backup's update

[astral lintel]

spicy

[low harbor]

u also don't need rampage's rending subnode

it's just comparatively 1~2 points cheaper on points vs everything else

while having as good if not better performance in almost every metric

[astral lintel]

damn, that's really good

vermintide axes had always plagued my taste in them, but this sounds pretty spicy

[neat delta]

Hey I heard that Splash Damage with Hyper Critical and Hyper Violence is a bad idea

is that true or

[mighty belfry]

Why would that be the case?

[neat delta]

not sure I just wanted to make sure

I heard it in a youtube vid once

dont know who

[bronze glade]

if it's on YT it's prob wrong

[neat delta]

How does my build look rn

is it havoc 40 reddy

Oh and this

I have toughness cuz gunners exist

[mighty belfry]

skipping hive city brawler 😔

[neat delta]

sis.

isnt that like

requiring you to have low stamina

oh misread

[mighty belfry]

read the talent

[neat delta]

shoots you

wait

before I changed it

at peak, I had uhh

150% cleave

jeez.

cleave that I don't rlly need lmao

i dont take forges bellow cuz forge bellow is stupid

taking street tough instead..

[bronze glade]

what

[neat delta]

i think its dum cuz exhaustion is gone

[bronze glade]

exhaustion has nothing to do with it...

[neat delta]

ok but that was the one consequence rampage had, rampage is an ability that encourages running head forward into hordes to keep it up, ususally by the end your fucked because you have no stamina left, but at the very least you have a chance to escape escape with forge bellow knocking everything backward

but now that consequence is gone :(

and I feel taking that makes the game a bit boring.

Imo forge bellow should only trigger by the very end of rampage

[astral lintel]

what blessing do yall take for stub pistols?

[bronze glade]

well i agree exhaustion removal was dumb

but forge bellow still shouts twice, and it should

[neat delta]

Because you are already a perpetual killing machine once you trigger it you don't need to knock everything down :(

[bronze glade]

if it only shouted once, it wouldn't be worth it

[astral lintel]

it's a shame im getting into hive scum after exhaustion removal

[bronze glade]

most people hated exhaustion tbh

but i think removing it was dumb

[neat delta]

It was honestly kind of novel

[neat delta]

most ppl are dumb

[bronze glade]

true

[astral lintel]

i really would've liked to feel the consequence of it to learn when to disengage, but could just be me thinking it's not that bad

since i didnt experience it

[neat delta]

I'm also taking forge bellow for survivability.

[astral lintel]

speedloader and pinning fire good? im using stub pistols for melee scum

[neat delta]

uhhh

[bronze glade]

run n gun and sustained fire

[neat delta]

proabbly that

almost gave the blessings for autopistols

autopistols kinda poopy..

[bronze glade]

yeah

[astral lintel]

yeah, been hearing that around, but i'm gonna enjoy the novelty while it lasts. feels pretty cool to get a headshot with special action

[mighty belfry]

That's not the only utility of the shout

[lilac schooner]

missing a lot of the ones I take: tertium welcome, floats like a butterfly, hive city brawler, and chem fortified

also you don't need both long lasting and blessed stims, just pick one their basically tax nodes

[mighty belfry]

You'd be surprised how much easier bosses become to deal with when their attack speeds are lessened.

[neat delta]

oh yeah right thats a thing

[neat delta]

arent perfect dodges/blocks rare

nvm

I think im gonna take off channeled aggression cuz I don't ever do heavy attacks w tac axe ngl

for float like a butterfly

so at peak I have 40% crit chance

nice

[past light]

i just have zero reason to use any other gun than the dual pistols

they're too god damn good

[spice cloud]

Get rid of pickpocket and take hive city brawler

U dont need pp on melee

[neat delta]

i got hive city brawl

[neat delta]

ok but infinite ammo

[spice cloud]

U using needler?

[neat delta]

noh

[spice cloud]

Hmmmm

Ok

[neat delta]

im usin revolver

[spice cloud]

Did u ever proc it?

Like do u even need it?

I played a bunch of expeditions yesterday and took pickpocked off my desperado scum

Cause i never even procced it

[neat delta]

on revolver i def will :p

i plan on usin dis in havoc

[spice cloud]

Ah ok

[bronze crown]

Exhaustion was a dumb mechanic because if you just kept taking military grade stimulants irl as much as a Hive Scum does you wouldn't get exhausted, you would OD.

[reef spoke]

"oops accidentally put horse tranqs into my stim c:"

[coral mirage]

Echaustion?

Exhaustion*

What was that

[spice cloud]

“Accidentally“

[bronze glade]

it was a debuff that used to apply when rampage ended

removing nearly? all your stamina and causing increased damage taken

[spice cloud]

Hs just did not need any buffs

Pp change and some weapon balance wouldve been enough.

[coral mirage]

Oh that! Had no idea they removed it

Do you mean heavy sword of hive scum

[spice cloud]

Hs=Hivescum HS=Heavy Sword

[lilac schooner]

they got buffed cause most players were getting destroyed on hive scum

[spice cloud]

Honestly a lot of those just didnt pick any of the defensive talents

No wonder

They go full glass cannon and then get melted.

[manic wolf]

But I like my pp the way it is!

[spice cloud]

https://tenor.com/view/wizard-cat-mage-cat-mage-cat-by-demonwolf-wizard-cat-by-demonwolf-gif-14179793436902941567

[manic wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/tungston-ballsack-youll-never-catch-me-wizard-i-cast-gif-7546647478604239209

[spice cloud]

Oh no my only weakness

[flat mist]

Idk bro i definitely feel pretty fucking exhausted after i take too many stimulants

[spice cloud]

I feel like if they took drugs every day their body would adapt rather quickly.

So eventually theyll het very used to it

[flat mist]

As someone who has overused a variety of drugs in their life i can assure you that withdrawal just gets worse

You do get used to it in a way, but the effects on your irl stam are unavoidable

[kind ice]

But after the 500th cigarette, you know what would really hit the spot? 🤤

[flat mist]

heroin

[zenith fern]

Alright, game just wanted us gone

[jovial heron]

clearly gunscum is unplayable and broken

[lilac schooner]

pp didnt even proc 🤷‍♂️

[jovial heron]

Exactly throw the class in the garbage /s

[unreal stirrup]

just because something is "difficult" doesn't mean it should automatically be bullshit op

scum is not even that squishy on the first talent tree

[lilac schooner]

its good on auric but bad in havoc is my take

[unreal stirrup]

it's just all the survivability shit is on the bottom

[lilac schooner]

no literally with full builds they were dying lol

they got review bombed to hell on the dlc

[unreal stirrup]

yeah because fucking skill issue

[zenith fern]

that is true, i dont have skill issue because i am very impressive

[unreal stirrup]

a part of the review bomb is due to people expecting mechanicus

it's the combination of shit people didn't expect + bad class progression + skill issue

[spice cloud]

I had no problem using pickpocket when i clutched expedition rounds the dogs practically jumped in my face nonstop

All i had to do was poke em once

Pp is honestly still broken af

It should have a cd too

Also that thing that knocks enemys away is also super broken

[lilac schooner]

people play expedition on malice lol

[spice cloud]

Idk how they could add that to hs

[spice cloud]

I dont lol

[unreal stirrup]

muh review bomb

[zenith fern]

https://tenor.com/view/mimimimimi-cat-sleeping-snoring-cat-sleeping-cat-drooling-cat-gif-23979759

[spice cloud]

Like what even is ur point mate

[lilac schooner]

I tried auric couldnt even find a whole lobby

[zenith fern]

Because people are playing malice for grind

Instead of playing on auric for fun

(It also skill issue)

[spice cloud]

Is it just me who thinks this shit is absurdly broken?

[unreal stirrup]

scum is fucking broken yeah

even before the buff

[zenith fern]

Because scum is a broken snooze class

[spice cloud]

Thank u im not going insane

I literally have the arby dog withou the dog every 8s

Like wtf is this

[astral lintel]

oh u talking about street brawl?

[coral mirage]

The skitarri class will be stronger…

[spice cloud]

Yeah

[astral lintel]

or street tough whatever it's called

[spice cloud]

Idk yeah

That one

[zenith fern]

street tough

[coral mirage]

No no you mean street fart

[astral lintel]

yeah i read it and didn't think much, then came across it again and realized it's mf ironbreaker passive every 8 seconds

[coral mirage]

[zenith fern]

road weak

[spice cloud]

Yeah

[astral lintel]

street tough? i hope it can handle my car

[spice cloud]

Insanity

Hs is a glasscannon btw

[astral lintel]

it's such a tragedy cuz ogryn has it too, but it's much more conditional 😢

[astral lintel]

goes down in an overhead so fits the title :clueless:

[spice cloud]

Laughs in infinite dodges

[astral lintel]

gotta wait like 5s of constant chip damage to proc ogryn's variant of ironbreaker passive

[spice cloud]

[astral lintel]

he has a 30s cooldown too

[spice cloud]

ITS NOT FAIR

[astral lintel]

i think

[spice cloud]

IT SHOULDVE BEEN US

Shouldve been for the pals only

[astral lintel]

ikr haha

gave hive scum axe some more spins and it's really nice.

idk if i'm supposed to light or heavy vs monsters, but the damage it does is cool. it keeps its cool in mortis trials too

[lilac schooner]

what weapon

[astral lintel]

oh right, there's two of its type. rashad combat axe

i haven't touched a taxe

[lilac schooner]

rashad is heavy spam axe cause the finesse

[manic wolf]

You should, TacAxe is in top 3 Scum melee choices

[lilac schooner]

mk7 tacaxe requires learning combos though

[zenith fern]

nuh huh

light spam is the only way

[lilac schooner]

the other marks better for that so really not recommended on the 7

[bronze crown]

https://tenor.com/view/good-mythical-morning-axe-rhett-mclaughlin-link-neal-rhett-and-link-gif-647594426202348840

Imo something like these could work for Expedition HS cosmetics. https://www.warhammer.com/en-US/shop/necromunda-ash-wastes-nomads-war-party-2022?queryID=73b218927b477b1ab4d03d1fddfe2985

[spice cloud]

Getting Hs cosmetics is atleast a little more likely then arbites

But still very bleak

[manic wolf]

I don't think it really matters much with TacAxes, they're very fluid to play, you can just use whatever attack you need at any given time without any significant DPS loss

[hybrid jay]

is hyper violence or hyper critical better on tac axe 7?

[lilac schooner]

light spam on mk7 vs the combo with heavy light added significant dps for crushers at least i didnt test much else

[manic wolf]

HV is arguably gonna be more relavant most of the time, but you lose nothing by taking both

[bronze crown]

Some punk modified Mobian gear for Havoc wouldn't be to hard too get approved would it? Rebreather no helmet for out hair, add a gang shoulder pad to a commissar long coat and some patches and studs to the black combat fatigues. 🙏

[manic wolf]

I mean, sure, but against a Crusher isnt the measuring stick and you develop the habits of killing them kinda seperate to the lions share of enemies in the rest of the game

[hybrid jay]

if you had to pick one, which one would it be?

[manic wolf]

TacAxe is just way less reliant on specific combos than most other things

[lilac schooner]

hv

[manic wolf]

HV and it wouldnt be a contest

[lilac schooner]

Most people dont even use weapons with* varied combos 😂

[manic wolf]

Fast, high finesse/high damage weapons get a shitload of value out of HV

[manic wolf]

I mean, no, but some of them lose loads of their potential if you don't play the combos effectively, the amount where you can kinda just do whatever is a very small handful

PSword being on the of the most egregious examples

Relic Sword being one thats strong whatever you do, but you leave loads on the table without knowing its moveset properly

Etc

[lilac schooner]

I main vet and ps doesnt even feel like a combo its just power light spam or power stab more light spam

[manic wolf]

Not how I hear other Vets talk about it

[lilac schooner]

relic blade yeah that combo is annoying

When you don't mix heavys even into combos I don't really consider it a combo

The two types of "combos" vet has is light light light, or pa light light like its nothing

[astral lintel]

yeah i've seen that hive scum really likes axes lol

[astral lintel]

it's so funny overkilling a mutie and then one tapping a trapper in the meat grinder. i can only imagine how goated mutie into whatever is nearby would be in practice

[muted pivot]

Pretty funny onetapping a Mauler too

[astral lintel]

they deserve it

even more so if they're rotten armor, cuz those guys will absorb the transfer damage won't they 🥀

[coral mirage]

Yeah haymaker+ overkilling+ crit one shotting everything is crazy

Makes the class a little brain dead sometimes

[astral lintel]

a shame the brain didn't pick up nimble. bro couldn't dodge all the brain dead overheads

sans hive scum would be fire 🔥

[manic wolf]

Some setups can get you to the point you can one-shot Crushers lul

[flat mist]

Literally any set up with hyperviolence has this potential, its just unlikely to happen

[manic wolf]

Aye, for sure, though some make it massively easier than others, that being said, those setups typically play with deeper valleys and higher peaks, so arent optimal for general gameplay

See; Slaughterspree/Decimator

Thats capable of shovelling a truly ridiculous amount into HV in a short amount of time, but its overly conditional and either requires godly play, or for you to accept that you're gonna have downtime

[zenith pagoda]

I love 1 shotting ragers with light attacks

[crimson moss]

:(

[zenith pagoda]

I think my damage was like 4 mil that game

[muted heath]

how long did it last?

[crimson moss]

lowest damage Warframe session

[unreal stirrup]

certified hyper violence moment

[mellow sparrow]

the dlcs have have discounts right?

sometimes?

[woeful hill]

I think arby was discounted when scum released? I might be wrong

[mellow sparrow]

hopefully scum will. soon

[zenith pagoda]

35 mins lol

[zenith pagoda]

I had moebian hordes and no psyker so it basically went on forever

[dusk dock]

that moment when you dodge so fast the game launches you into the air and off the next rail 💀

[bronze glade]

this is why i don't take alley rat lol

[dusk dock]

fair but that was with nimble

[vapid jungle]

That dodge drifting has felt real bad today

[bronze glade]

a ledge too far

[unreal stirrup]

alley rat is stupidly bad

but damn it funny

[muted heath]

There are many secret trimp spots in the game and that is one of them. I have gotten as high just above a bulwark with combat knife. This game has its glitches

[glacial jay]

Riposte or Uncanny Strike for second shiv blessing? Or will it matter more based on the mark? I'm using Mk3 cleave variant.

[wind crane]

why do ppl use tac axe for toxin melee build?

id prefer shivs

[bronze glade]

Prob for funsies, Taxe is a good weapon

[tranquil fjord]

do they use tac axe for that?

[wind crane]

yea i mostly see tac axe

[tranquil fjord]

taxe is fun yeah

[bronze glade]

Uncanny and riposte. What are you using as the first blessing?

[tranquil fjord]

usually because its more of a spam crit weapon

so it builds coated weaponry up

[wind crane]

doesnt shiv spam crits too?

[tranquil fjord]

yeah

[bronze glade]

Shiv is my first pick for a melee tox build yeah

[wind crane]

lights do more dmg on tac axe

[tranquil fjord]

shiv will usually also just kill the enemy anyways

[wind crane]

my context is h40 rotten

[bronze glade]

Light spam isn’t usually optimal on Taxe anyway

[zenith pagoda]

It's useful for clutches and getting to places really quick

But actually combat, yeah it makes it harder

[wind crane]

why not

thats how i see most ppl play it btw

spam lights

[bronze glade]

Because MkVII is the best mark. And MkVII combos aren’t light spam

[wind crane]

what wouyld u recommend?

[bronze glade]

I mean you could light spam for single target if you’re attack speed maxing

[bronze glade]

Check the guide on vet pins

It has movesets

[wind crane]

ty

"Horde Clear
PA > H1 > L2"

PA?
why numbrs on heavy and light?

oh push attack?

[bronze glade]

Yeh

The numbers you can ignore

It’s just the order that move is in the light or heavy chain

Like L2 is the second light in the light chain

[wind crane]

ok so push attack -> heavy -> light

damn this is some tekken shit

[main trellis]

Exacly; ppl really don’t wanna put the info simply

[bronze glade]

Well the numbers are helpful if you want to dig into the combo system

But if you just want the “correct” combos you can just ignore it

[main trellis]

I suggest using push att + heavy & repeat that; better combo

[wind crane]

why push attack?

just so it starts with a stagger?

oh just does tons of dmg i guess

[bronze glade]

Mk VII has a good horde clear PA

[glacial jay]

Precog. I switched to Mk1. Makes more sense to me for kill-focused build. So went with precog + riposte.

[bronze glade]

That’s valid tho I prefer riposte uncanny

If I’m using melee for horde clear

[wind crane]

oph

maybe ppl use tac axe because it has +12% crit chance from it's stats

so more toxins from attacks

and more melee dmg from channelled devastation

[bronze glade]

Yes but you generally can’t afford crit blessings on taxe

Unlike shivs

Idr what shivs base crit is

[wind crane]

why cant u afford

thats what im doing

shrd

[bronze glade]

One slot goes to brumentum, other slot goes to headtaker

For MKVII at least

Both are really strong blessings

[wind crane]

maybe shred is better for this build specifically?

[bronze glade]

Giving up 40 percent? strength just isn’t worth it

And obviously brumentum is brumentum

[unreal stirrup]

headtaker on taxe is 25%

[bronze glade]

Yeah still a lot

[vapid jungle]

Shred Headtaker

[cerulean crane]

Bruh is required to hit more than 1 thing at a time right

[bronze glade]

It’s a horde clear blessing yeh

[unreal stirrup]

bm ignore hitmass and make you deal first target damage to all enemy affected by bm

it is pretty huge

[zenith pagoda]

12.5 I think

Idk what the base crit of heavy sword is though

[vapid jungle]

I don't think it has any

[brittle sierra]

No, in practice stackings dots is pretty minimal in terms of damage output until you reach around 8 stacks for elites

And by that point, the target is dead

You only care about chem dots for the cooldown on sampler

[zenith pagoda]

I now have 2x3 stamina, 1x21 health, 3x17 toughness curios

[vapid jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-angry-kid-congrats-nice-happy-for-you-gif-16045257244806990422

[unreal stirrup]

outside stamina one it doesn't matter

maybe if you have the red item mod but idc

[calm aurora]

Is splash dmg good?

[unreal stirrup]

its op

[vapid jungle]

Very good has awesome synergy with some of hs best talents

[wind crane]

hm no

[tough breach]

stupid question but when would you use the purple bone saw thingy

and same with blue dart gun

I tried using it in a horde but the guy exploding didnt seem to do much but maybe im just missing smth

[low harbor]

I only chase after 430 curios now

[zenith pagoda]

Never got one

[low harbor]

I run the same +49% toughness & +36% health setup on every class now and 5/6 of my classes can do that with full 430 curios

[brittle sierra]

Incredible analysis I have learned the error of my ways

[lilac schooner]

chem toxin builds are meh imo cost too much points and only really effective against bosses and crushers

[unreal stirrup]

yeah because toxin kill everything else

[leaden fable]

Getting 430 curios because they're the biggest number
Getting 420 curios because funny number

[wheat brook]

I had to buy so many duel auto pistols to get a perfect roll it takes 10 seconds to open the inventory menu

[wind crane]

i think its best for rotten

not 100% sure tho

but pretty sure

[mint birch]

I hope they delete TacAxw from the game

I want to play the other weapons but they feel so underwhelming

[jovial heron]

Any other good ranged weapons to try on hivescum mostly melee?

[tranquil fjord]

dual stubbers

[jovial heron]

Yeah I’ve done them

[tranquil fjord]

vraks is still a good pick

or the other iags

quickdraw stubber, either mark

[tranquil fjord]

it especially doesn't miss out on crit much if youre taking chem dep

[limber cradle]

My favorites

[unique dagger]

I talked to the devs we are removing tac axe because this guy wanted it
blame him

[mint birch]

Thanks

[limber cradle]

What kinda build you running post tree work?

[mint birch]

Now can we talk about Mk3?

[limber cradle]

You pick up samp collector cause it's basically pathing now?

[unique dagger]

it's a little unorthodox compared to what most runs

I don't

[limber cradle]

Well, let's see it

I came up with my own build

[unique dagger]

let me quickly make it in build editor