hivescum-class

[mighty belfry]

It needs work imho

[rotund agate]

not that I am aware of, but idk where to checck...

[manic wolf]

Aye, I had an inkling that would be the case, but the baseline is good tho?

[mighty belfry]

The extraction being smothered in pox bombers is not very fun

[upbeat pendant]

I also had a few crashes, sometimes when people hot join in the sanctuary and once buying something in sanc

well not crashes, just mission aborted

[mighty belfry]

Check your game's properties

Should be the first thing that comes up

[mighty belfry]

The idea is cool.

I'm sure they're gonna do more work to it

[manic wolf]

So tis like a Bethesda game, good canvas, but needs paint

[low harbor]

Very fun but needs polish

[mighty belfry]

Because there are some glaring issues

[mighty belfry]

Pretty much

[rotund agate]

in the General tab?

[mighty belfry]

Ye

[low harbor]

Unlike havoc tho, it’s salvageable

Like the base of it actually isn’t buried under 12 layers of obtuse systems

[manic wolf]

Thats good then

[low harbor]

It’s only buried under 5 or so layers

[mighty belfry]

Should be a text box on the bottom of the window.

[rotund agate]

ohh, the text box is empty.

[mighty belfry]

Though if you're not aware, you most likely don't have parameters set

Ya

[rotund agate]

the error message says something about the game mode scripts trying to index a local "product_data" (which the error message says to be a nil value), so idk what that means actually, but because the crash happens when someone buys something, I assume "product_data" means "shop item data" somehow...

[main trellis]

Its a very tight cone so no

[hybrid jay]

is channelled devastation bugged?

[woeful hill]

"In regard to the sources of crit chance that are picked up by the talent, there is inconsistent behavior: properly accounts for crit chance granted by Hive Scum's base template, by weapon perks, and by weapons' handling templates; crit chance granted by weapon blessings is properly accounted for but not once changes have been made to the loadout in the Psykhanium; crit chance granted by talents and Cartel Special Stimm is not accounted for (except for Float Like a Butterfly)."

Kuli's guide

[livid raven]

i think fatshark might just be incompetent

[hybrid jay]

🗿

[tranquil fjord]

erm what

[zenith pagoda]

Tbh it's not high enough damage for me

[unreal stirrup]

yeah especially when you have to take sweet spot

which might not be worth it on majority of the weapon

[main trellis]

[unreal stirrup]

+25% weakspot damage just isn't that much on like most weapon

caxe and taxe love it since you can 1 shot scab bruiser

if it weakspot strength then it would be way better

even as 15%

[torpid cloud]

what stimm should i cook up on melee scum

[upbeat gyro]

Meth or crack, avoid pcp

[torpid cloud]

very funny

[verbal dew]

strength and attack speed usually

then again

that's what I use on all my stimms

[upbeat gyro]

Im having my hivescum night out IRL

Eastern districts of Tertium are wild

[manic wolf]

@mighty belfry How did HS buff work out btw?

[low harbor]

Do u mean heavy sword or hive scum

[mighty belfry]

Favorite scum weapon rn

You can really notice the brittleness doing its thing

I'm not even using bladed momentum tho

I'm running chained deathblow for the extra crit cuz I was running a toxin build for it with blackouts last night

And given I got over a million damage in a CIVI last night

I'd say it's doing enough for armored targets lmao

Haven't finished a havoc with it yet tho since I was trying out Expeditions with friends a bit too.

[manic wolf]

Hell yeah

Look forward to testing it

[north saddle]

Bruh ive had it to HERE with these incompetent teammates. Premature evacuations, no one is scanning for targets, no one collects salvage/scrap, no one knows how to operate the objectives and ofc, the general incapeability of the average player to use their toolkit. I wish nothing but FIRE and BRIMSTONE over this community.

This SUCKS

[mighty belfry]

It's a fundamentally new mode

[rotund agate]

I use varied stim setups depending on build, but they all have at least 1 or 2 point of Barrage for quicker toughness gain...

[mighty belfry]

With a lot of newer players

[north saddle]

Excuses

[mighty belfry]

It really isn't. They just had a sale too lol

Even I took a bit to figure out how things worked in Expeditions

You just have to expect that some people aren't used to what the mode's asking of players

It is what it is.

[north saddle]

There are videos out on it an new players (should) can ALWAYS ask the experienced players in the lobby for advice .

[rotund agate]

I myself learned the map markers only after my first match, everything else came kinda easily to me (exccept for the new hacking minigame)...

[mighty belfry]

Some people don't want to watch a video to figure out how a game mode works

🤷‍♀️

[rotund agate]

yeah, like me. I only read through some parts of the dev blog, and started putting pieces together from there...

[vapid jungle]

Dawg. It just came out can people learn? Wtf.

[north saddle]

Youre just excusing dogwater players ruining it for everyone else. When i started this game i practiced in malice and heresy FOR HOURS and watched LOADS of YT content before i was good enough to even dare set a foot in auric.... Thats the way it should be. Earn your spurs

[tranquil fjord]

it shouldnt need some specific video on another platform

[torpid cloud]

i dunno why but i feel like the game runs worse than it did before i had my break

[north saddle]

Yeah, they can. But please not on auric. Go learn on malice

[vapid jungle]

Holy moly the fun police arrived

This is not arbites chat

[north saddle]

Well, some people are wrong 🤷🏻

[torpid cloud]

arbites chat lore?

[vapid jungle]

Police=Arbites 🙂

[north saddle]

I am not having any fun because of bad players....

[rotund agate]

nah, malice is training wheels difficulty. too easy and calm, and so not really suited to getting players used to the "hurry up or die" part of the mode imo...

[mystic rain]

god dammit i have to rethink my whole build

[astral canyon]

I still dont know what the icons mean other than the ones for extraction site and safe zones

[vapid jungle]

You're not having fun because of your unrealistic expectations

[mighty belfry]

Goodness gracious

[mystic rain]

i think you need to calm down

[rotund agate]

while I do occasionally have the opinion of "all fun is ruined if you lose" in some games, DT is not exactly one of them. (and this opinion of yours goes at least slightly too far into that territory's extreme tbh)

[mighty belfry]

If anything I've been more amused by the newer players trying it than anything lmao

[zenith fern]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cats-rigby-rigby-the-cat-rigby-cat-gif-12777307700590236451

[rotund agate]

idk, I am not amused by that. But I respect you for having the ability to be amused by newbies learning things (the hard way) because I lack that capability.

[jaunty spire]

Personally if the new players are open to learn I'm more than happy to help them and guide them through, even if it means losing a few games here and there

After all, I was new like them not too long ago

[astral canyon]

Fr tho what do the other icons mean

Like wtf are the letters and numbers on the map

[rotund agate]

structures with puzzles to get tech scraps

[vapid jungle]

Dunno their meaning but they are all points of interest

Like in hd2

[rotund agate]

you can mark em to let your teammates know you wanna go to that spot, and to also let everyone see them on the HUD compass...

[astral canyon]

I didnt play hd2 (thank fuck)

[rotund agate]

I did for a bit, sadly...

[north saddle]

I am not having fun because i cant progress because EVERY SINGLE RUN i am on ends in tpk because my teammates die too easily and play bad.... Like HOW am i supposed to advance If none of my teammates pull their weight? Tell me, wise sage, HOW?

[lost ravine]

pull their weight

idk can it really be that bad? i have only done one expedition so far and it was pretty smooth

[north saddle]

I can compensate for maybe one more. But i cant do a four man Job. And i shouldnt be expected to in a FOUR people game

[manic wolf]

Simply get a stronger back

[shrewd chasm]

can someone tell me how hive city brawler works

[manic wolf]

I would rather have 3 shit teammates than one teammate thats incredibly disruptive, any day of the week

[north saddle]

Teammates are bad = just carry them...

Sure....

Why expect reasonable skill of your teammates in an online multiplayer If you can do it all by yourself...

Hate to break it to you but i am not a strong, independend single mother of four with 3 jobs....

I am here to have fun in a group setting with equally skilled players to me
...

[shrewd chasm]

it says up to 20% damage with spent stamina will that appear on the buff bar in the bottom????

[lost ravine]

high stamina = damage reduction
low stamina = melee damage bonus

[shrewd chasm]

ok does it tell me this in the buff bar at the bottom though... i will assume so cause swift endurance does... it is very hard to see the buffs at the bottom of my monitor though

[manic wolf]

🤷‍♂️ You either do or you do not and accept the losses, thats just how it goes when you have to rely on randoms.

Expect nothing and you won't be disappointed

[north saddle]

Is it too much to ask for teammates that arnt shitty and arent disruptive?

[lost ravine]

Yes

literally yes

[north saddle]

Thats a great quote they should teach that in school.....

[manic wolf]

As I said, better three vegetables than one tosspot with an AoE spam build throwing enemies every which way except where its convinient

[north saddle]

Guess this aint the game for me then....

[manic wolf]

I mean, its the reality of the situation. Not everyone you matchmake with is going to have good fundamentals.

Particularly not something you can expect of new players

[north saddle]

Private parties with people i know that can play it is then...

Noted

Forsake the quickplay

[manic wolf]

Well theres your first mistake...

Don't hit quickplay, queue into specific missions

[north saddle]

I only have the first one unlocked anyways atm

[manic wolf]

By hitting QP you're gonna get thrown into people's matches who are doing the campaign missions, you're not gonna see a whole lot of ability in such an environment

[unreal stirrup]

It’s important that we don’t normalize mediocrity at the expense of the broader team’s success. When I began my journey, I dedicated countless hours to upskilling and immersed myself in industry-leading content before I felt ready to tackle high-stakes challenges. True professional growth requires a commitment to excellence and a "earn your stripes" mindset. Let’s raise the bar together.

[north saddle]

Can progress because i keep getting bad teammates

[manic wolf]

Uhoh

[lost ravine]

can you say that again in english i don't speak linkedin

[north saddle]

I am only complaining about the new gamemode

[unreal stirrup]

Unfortunately, I don't have the capacity to take this on right now as I'm currently prioritizing other strategic initiatives.

[lost ravine]

time to strategically pivot off a cliff

[north saddle]

I cant tell If youre agreeing with me or making fun of me.

Good Job

10/10 ragebat points

[manic wolf]

Well you gotta realise that your average player is probably unaware of how it works an is dipping their toes into it

[unreal stirrup]

Always prioritize your mental well-being and remember that your journey is a marathon, not a sprint. Your value is immeasurable, so keep pushing forward and never give up on yourself.

[manic wolf]

It's gonna be like that for at least a week

Till people sus out what to do properly

[mighty belfry]

Get yer fuckin clanker speech outta here.

I see those dashes.

I know what you are.

[unreal stirrup]

I’m proud to share that I operate with a human-centric approach, prioritizing authentic connection and creative problem-solving over automated, robotic processes.

[manic wolf]

All is bot

[north saddle]

All is dust...
I am going offline. I had enough of this circus. See you clowns later

[bronze glade]

I write using em dashes normally 😭

[unreal stirrup]

I value your input, but let's pivot this conversation toward a more collaborative and professional synergy. I'd love to see us focus on high-level alignment rather than these technical distractions.

[jaunty spire]

We can take this offline and synergize

[mighty belfry]

Man you're upset.

I legit would recommend taking a break from this game if newer players are really bothering you this much.

[manic wolf]

Don't let the door hit you on the way out 😄

[vapid jungle]

Talk about dramatic jesus

That guy needs grass

[manic wolf]

Think most of us could do with some grass at the minute. It might fix the St'P's day hangovers

[mighty belfry]

Like we all sucked once upon a time.

I'm far ahead of you.

While at work.

[manic wolf]

Jealous

Send buds

[mighty belfry]

I didn't smoke on site obvs

[vapid jungle]

👀

Hell yea brother

[shrewd chasm]

does long lasting stimms add the extra 5 seconds if they are used into fast acting from the stim crate ult

[torpid cloud]

which tacax do we like

[manic wolf]

Yes.

[shrewd chasm]

i got a question
if im running a support hivescum build would it be better to go for
virulent strain to help others a bit more
or
toxin mania for myself to see if the 15% damage brings my shivs over hypercritical threashholds

[bronze glade]

VII is the best overall

[verbal moat]

Is rampage good after they removed the downside

[mighty belfry]

It was good before they removed it lol

[verbal moat]

Sure, It did great things but the downside was annoying as shit to me. Did they weaken it when they removed the downside is what im asking .

[astral canyon]

Completely removed

[unreal stirrup]

you can larp as martydom zealot++ for 30+s

[astral canyon]

So now you have an ability that just gives you +75% melee strength, +50% cleave, +20% attack speed and +25% damage reduction for absolutely 0 downside

[verbal moat]

Im guessing daggers are still best melee for them? or has that changed. Havent played hive scum since it launched .

[unreal stirrup]

shiv never was the best scum melee

it was caxe

[astral canyon]

Ye

Its rashad

[unreal stirrup]

but now it get nerfed a bit

combat blade is better now imo

[verbal moat]

Rashad got nerfed ? 🙁

[astral canyon]

Well shiv is the best scum exclusive melee

[astral canyon]

Rashad? Or do you mean the cleave nerf on mk1 shiv lights

[manic wolf]

Playing Rashad is like subjecting yourself to 8 hours of paint drying

That automatically disqualifies it from "best in slot"

[unreal stirrup]

mk1 lol

pretty minor all thing considered

but i find combat blade better nowaday

mk3 shiv still ass

[near mauve]

what did they do to shivs

[unreal stirrup]

rashad is like vanilla ice cream

its good but shit fucking boring

[unreal stirrup]

nerf mk1 light cleave and buff mk3

[verbal moat]

Shivs would cleave for days into trash mobs....they reduced that by allot .

[unreal stirrup]

mk3 still isn't good and its like -1 cleave on mk1 light all attack

[unreal stirrup]

lmao no

never was

[near mauve]

so not noticeable at all

[unreal stirrup]

it kinda is with rampage but uh

[near mauve]

prolly deserved tho

[unreal stirrup]

normally you wouldn't notice it

[near mauve]

it literally powercrept the knife

[unreal stirrup]

knife still have way better single target but eh

shiv is brain dead

[near mauve]

do they

[manic wolf]

You really dont need giga-cleave on Scum anyway tbh

[unreal stirrup]

yeah

[near mauve]

shivs 1 shot everything and cut down cara in seconds

[unreal stirrup]

pa spam is a lot faster than h1 h2 of shiv

also knife have h1 and h2

for non st

[verbal moat]

Hmm whats a good ranged weapon then?

[unreal stirrup]

mk1 shiv have pretty noticeable damage difference compare to knife light but eh

i prefer knife now since chaff still die in 1-2 hit on both

if i need to deal with mixed horde just pa h2

[wise sorrel]

hivescum is the only talent tree that got a complete rework, right? like, will I have to log on with each of my rejects to rebuiild their talent trees or is it just hive scum?

[astral canyon]

Just scum

[main wagon]

Mk1 nerf is definitely felt but fairly insignificant in the grand scheme

Am happy to report, was curious last night when I was stuck at work

[torpid cloud]

I'm experimenting with taxe and it's pretty fun

[main wagon]

Taxe is cool, the doinkdoinkdonk noise is very satisfying

Shiv hitstop feels glorious when you dodge past an enemy and hit them with the reverse grip stab on the way by

[manic wolf]

Best weapon in the game

Other than Shovel ofc

[torpid cloud]

Doesnt seem like the best against crushers
But then again I DID roll an entirely fresh scum to get used to the new tree. Don't got the toys

[main wagon]

Respekt

Taxe heavies are less remarkable than something like chainaxe obv, but still fairly decent when fully built

[torpid cloud]

I've been a pure ranged scum before this
I'm learning
Grug brain is growing

[main wagon]

Goooood gooooooooood

[manic wolf]

Well don't waste a blessing slot with BM, take Deci/Headtaker or HT/Slaughterspree. Cleave is nice an all, but you want beeg damage for juicy HV procs more than that

[main wagon]

https://tenor.com/view/palpatine-emperor-laugh-star-wars-gif-17678144807313371654

[torpid cloud]

So do I just want the taxe mark with the highest number on the light attack

And a complementary syringe pistol

[manic wolf]

No, you want the one with the moveset you like

[main wagon]

Taxe and Shivs do less raw cleaving through several pox and more rapidly slaughtering individual enemies in a wall of meat, same conclusion but slightly different execution

[manic wolf]

They're all strong as fuck

[torpid cloud]

Though I love my zarona

[unreal stirrup]

taxe have bad cleave and low cleave cap lol

you gonna miss bm in havoc

[main wagon]

BM pretty essential for Taxe

[torpid cloud]

What's bm again

[manic wolf]

Yeup, which is more benificial for Scum because you can get to the point you're one shotting Crushers with HV

[main wagon]

Brutal Momentum

[torpid cloud]

Ah yeah I remember that

[manic wolf]

I thought that, but after running without it for a while i really don't feel likes its worth it

[main wagon]

You think so?

[manic wolf]

Yer

[main wagon]

I defer to you, I haven’t used it in ages

[manic wolf]

More damage more gudder, Scum attacks fast as fuck and gets a lot more benifit from bigger damage numbers than he does cleave

[main wagon]

Ah, yeah on Scum I guess it makes sense

[manic wolf]

Just take the cleave on kill node an thats all you need tbh

[main wagon]

Scum takes slightly different blessings for a few weapons because it’s got a really sweet base kit

[manic wolf]

Yeah, i wouldnt recommend dropping it for other classes, but for Scum, not really a requirement

Plus you know, now we have Splash Damage, so you're essentially zeroing stuff ultra-fast because even with 2 stacks, its effectively bumping your HV and working in a smiliar role to cleave

[torpid cloud]

I'm gonna scum all over these heretics
They are not ready for the blender they have released by taking away my zero effort infinite ammo

Really I'm happy to get the excuse to learn melee scum

And before you say anything, I'm an ogryn main, I know how to melee, but usually I'm twice as big and feel way slower than this

[manic wolf]

Welcome to the light, stick around, we have cookies drugs

[torpid cloud]

By the way quick question

The taxe seems to have this special attack where you hit with the blunt end
When is that best used

[unreal stirrup]

insta stagger anything that isn't bosses

[manic wolf]

Or if you're using the MKIV, quickly stacking Deci'

[vapid jungle]

You can stop a mutie mid charge

[manic wolf]

Ye

[torpid cloud]

Lmao

[manic wolf]

And punch a dog out the air

[vapid jungle]

Risky tho unless youre good

[unreal stirrup]

anything put dog out of the air

[manic wolf]

Yer

[unreal stirrup]

💔

[torpid cloud]

You shouldn't have said that
I'm gonna attempt this now

All the time

[manic wolf]

Yeah but its funnier with TacAxe because its disrespectful as fuck

[vapid jungle]

Its a small hit box takes practice. Was way easier with pre nerf DS.

I miss that alt so much

[torpid cloud]

Duelling sword on scum would go crazy

This new game mode worth playing?

[vapid jungle]

Would be if it weren't plagued with bugs and DC issues

[torpid cloud]

Damn

[unreal stirrup]

what with people and thinking ds is broken

[main wagon]

Ragers

[unreal stirrup]

even when it not even that good

[manic wolf]

Would 10,000% rather have the Shovel on Scum, fuck the DS

[unreal stirrup]

shovel on scum go crazy

[torpid cloud]

Oh yes please

[main wagon]

Hang on

[manic wolf]

Right?

[limber cradle]

Same, DS wouldn't add much to scum imo

I'd take shovel or crusher

[manic wolf]

Nah, it really wouldnt

[limber cradle]

Like in no world am I taking DS over shivs

[main wagon]

Shovel on Scum would put the crowbar in the ground

[unreal stirrup]

crusher with extra dodge + dodge distance is fucking crazy

• finesse

[limber cradle]

You're goddamn right

[main wagon]

Crusher was already hilarious on Arbites

[manic wolf]

Have to dig it up first

[limber cradle]

Crusher would fucking slap on scum

[unreal stirrup]

I need the armory mod to be updated so i can mess with crusher on scum

[main wagon]

Scum should get uhhhhh pickaxe

[warm axle]

rampage rending on crusher probably nukes

[main wagon]

I’d actually feel bad for the zealots getting out knife zealot’d by crusher scum

[unreal stirrup]

knife zealot long has been power crept by knife scum

[manic wolf]

[main wagon]

You watch as they just go side dodging away at Warp 3

[unreal stirrup]

like genuinely

[main wagon]

Oh absolutely, but it’d be a fresh new hell

[vapid jungle]

FGS on scum

[main wagon]

I’m so happy the gun scum have been partially contained

[manic wolf]

Scum kinda powercrept everyone except Psyker, but Scum is actually fun to play, unlike the clown reliant on warp magic

[unreal stirrup]

actually zealot can proc mercy killer with talent + uncanny

[main wagon]

I literally stopped using Desperado + DAP because it was unethical

[unreal stirrup]

so zealot do have better single target damage but like scum have so many bs

[main wagon]

You basically ripped gameplay away from your whole fireteam

[manic wolf]

Desperado isnt fun anyway tbh, yay, immune to all the most dangerous stuff in the game by pressing F, great, veri fun

[main wagon]

Desperado DB still fucks heavy, but it gives people a chance to shoot and swing at some enemies

[limber cradle]

Oh? You commune with hell to cast magic? Check out what drugs can do for you.

[manic wolf]

Confirmed drugs are better than hell magic

[main wagon]

I liked it initially because it meant I could go “BOOM BOOM BOOM” to the beat of the trenches OST

Reload took just long enough for the downtime before the next bar

[limber cradle]

I like that the treework is even closer to Psyker II

scum didn't sell well enough what do we do?

[main wagon]

https://youtu.be/mE81SuP9vmM I try to shoot with the choir singing their notes

[limber cradle]

Buff it

[manic wolf]

I hate Scum being powercrept a lot less than I do Psyker getting powercrept tbh

At least you (mostly) have to play the game on Scum

Psyker just gets to ignore it all with infinite cleave and AoE spam

[main wagon]

Melee psyker feels less oppressive than it used to

Maybe it’s because I’ve been playing other stuffs so I’m out of practice

It just doesn’t spark joy how Scum does now

[limber cradle]

I just think it's a funny balancing by the numbers quirk

They're both classes the average player flounders on

But if yk what you're doing it's a hard carry class

[lost ravine]

it's more juiced than ever

[warm axle]

the melee pushback talent is so funny

call an ambulance -but not for me!

[vapid jungle]

FGS makes you a god when built right

[lost ravine]

being immune to disablers other than trapper because Tough Bastard is funny
even funnier when you consider that the same does not apply to ogryn

[limber cradle]

I don't think the dlc classes should be like

Be immune to disablers like they are

[lost ravine]

oh for sure

[manic wolf]

Its not very healthy, no

[limber cradle]

It's very p2w

[lost ravine]

the p in p2w stands for psyker

[manic wolf]

Either everyone should have access to it, or noone should

[limber cradle]

Atp I agree

[lost ravine]

and if everyone is immune to disablers, what point is there to disablers existing

[limber cradle]

But I side with "no one should"

[lost ravine]

real talk

[manic wolf]

But the problem is, those sorts of nodes because a "must pick" which would mean disablers become pointless

[limber cradle]

Except trapper

Who will shoot you through 7 feet of solid concrete

[lost ravine]

street tough is just really dumb

[manic wolf]

Well yeah, but we all know how bullshit those fuckwits are

[limber cradle]

Totally unnecessary addition to the tree

[lost ravine]

also clashes extremely hard with the class design

bring back gang tough

forge's bellow is silly enough

[limber cradle]

Scum is like

Stupidly durable

Especially now

[manic wolf]

You wouldnt think it with the number of folks self reporting by saying it isnt

[lost ravine]

what if we had a class with
knife zealot mobility
ogryn-level effective health
gorillion damage
unlimited ammo

[limber cradle]

Precision violence is my favorite toughness gen talent in game+you get 50 percent toughness when it breaks+1 percent per enemy toxxed around you per second+tough

[lost ravine]

and it's immune to dog

[manic wolf]

Being shot and getting your toughness back FOR BEING FUCKING SHOT is crazy

[lost ravine]

that would be silly

[limber cradle]

That's the one I'm forgetting

Yeah lol

[lost ravine]

oh no i just got shot in the head
nah whatever just shrug it off

OK

[limber cradle]

And you can have all of them

It's not even like

Choice based

[lost ravine]

4% toughness on hit is like ok
additional 4% on headshot, sure maybe
extra 4% on crit, on a class with this much attack speed
and this much crit
now we're semi-reliably getting 12% toughness per swing
not factoring kills

[manic wolf]

Imagine.. You're a part of the biggest heretic rebellion Tertium has ever seen and your march across the hab-blocks are stopped by a drug-addled nutcase who gets stronger every time you shoot at him

[warm axle]

and a bigger radius of ignoring gunfire when sprinting

[limber cradle]

You get iirc 12 percent for critical headshots and swing yk, 15 times a second

[torpid cloud]

low level scum be ballin

[manic wolf]

I am sorry wut

[lost ravine]

Yes

[manic wolf]

Mandem skipped on BOTH dodge talents

[torpid cloud]

[manic wolf]

Wild

[warm axle]

not really necessary at low level

[lost ravine]

i also skip both

[torpid cloud]

rushing ruffian, getting nimble next

[lost ravine]

not a travel node so gg

[unreal stirrup]

bro also doesn't have burst of energy

[manic wolf]

What do you mean you don't want to fly past the guard rails at mach-fuck?

Sounds like heresy

[lost ravine]

burst of energy is such a silly talent
if(goingToGetFuckedUp) then(actuallyDon't) else(businessAsUsual)

[main wagon]

I’m still kinda butthurt about the new aura pathings

Being able to just look at a game with fellow scum and quickly swap to a different one was convenient

[limber cradle]

Obligatory stimm talents feel so dumb but like sure I'll take it ig

[main wagon]

Yeah

Id try to reduce redundancy before but cant really now

[torpid cloud]

i like the blackout nades cause theyre infinite

[limber cradle]

Infinite+great control

[torpid cloud]

yea

boom bringer IS funny tho

low levels of difficulty are such a vibe btw
on the one hand nothing is happening but also i have to solo the bosses cause the teammates get distracted

[limber cradle]

They're all good options

[verbal dew]

back up to H40

[limber cradle]

Scum has 3 amazing nades

[main wagon]

I’m really glad Rocket got buffed

Soup can remains a fan favorite because you can spin the lid on your finger like the grenade pins

[glass gale]

I got my 1st shield on arbites. Now i understand why everyone uses shields 🛡 your invincible

[main wagon]

Don’t sleep on the special for telling an entire room of gunners to stfu

[manic wolf]

I really don't think the surstromming grenades compare to the RPG or Blackouts, but they're still good

[limber cradle]

Only pigs here are in blankets man

[limber cradle]

They're pretty fucking dumb with extra stacks

[manic wolf]

Yeah, not they're very strong, but being limited and not able to be used all that pro-actively compared to the others hurts them a decent bit and they dont offer anything to the class that Scum isnt already good at

[limber cradle]

Theyre defo harder to use

Rocket is like

Bare minimum skill floor for maximum output

[main wagon]

I pretty exclusively use it as the “good teammate” button

Psyker backs himself into a corner flame staffing 6 crushers? Rocket

[manic wolf]

Idk if its down to them being harder to use, its more that they offer wave clear, which Scum already does super well, whereas Blackouts are on-demand heavy stagger, which Scum isnt good at and the RPG is an instant clown-car begone stick

[modest patio]

I haven’t used tickets this update. Haven’t really only used in high havoc for emergency clear. Never really loved the rpg

[main wagon]

It’s also nice to execute non-captain bosses if the situation is already pretty fucked and you need one less thing to deal with

Less efficient use of the rocket but hey, better than choking the match ig

[manic wolf]

Yeah, dumping one into a boss to expedite its departure is certainly useful if it comes to it

[main wagon]

BoN turns your last safe spot into vomit puddle, Plogryn/Cspawn backing you into a corner, etc

Honestly it’s made me appreciate having a veteran friend so much more

Ammo boxes filling nades is massive

Esp if one person is a psyker and you can dump all yours before eating their share

[modest patio]

Can I see your build when you have time?

[glass gale]

Wrong chat

I put that in wrong chat my bad

[limber cradle]

Lemme find my weapons

2x17 toughness, 1x21 Health with 3x health, toughness, and gunner resist curios

[modest patio]

dual stubs huh?

I need to give them another try

[limber cradle]

Style over substance, yk?

[wind crane]

for h40 - chem nade, pickpocket, +1 blitz, replace street tough with dmg to elite/monstrosities, a tertium welcome, maxed out chems

my opinion

[limber cradle]

I wasn't asking

Thank you tho

[rotund agate]

ok, so I finally learned what caused me to sometimes crash in expeditions shop...

when someone with a stim buys the big nade, multiple people can crash

[mighty belfry]

We're out here saying Rashad is best scum melee

The heavy sword

Is right there.

I seriously cannot stress enough how good it is now.

[rotund agate]

might try it out again now. what blessings and mark?

[mighty belfry]

I can make the tree I was using for it

[lost ravine]

heavy sword propaganda

[warm axle]

i gotta give it another go. havent tried em since they let all the conscripts besides zealot use em.

a change that i dont think anyone even noticed lol

[mighty belfry]

Okay you can say this about D claw but I'm like

[lost ravine]

it was noticed, it just happened to be inconsequential

[mighty belfry]

Actually in consideration that the rework legitimately has put heavy sword in a really good place right now.

[lost ravine]

hsword having some built-in brittleness does sound good

[mighty belfry]

It's not just that.

It's the sprint change too.

You are so much more mobile using it now

[mighty belfry]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a15532e1-a2e0-4a4c-b892-f8bd9c7f3528/toxin-turtolsky

I was trying bladed momentum first

But then settled on chained deathblow instead

With CA, because more crits also mean more armor damage

It isn't the best against crushers obvs but being more than great at literally anything else is more than enough to me

[limber cradle]

They make needler for crushers

[sacred estuary]

Anyone have an updated build for Dual Stub Pistols?

John Wick style

[warm axle]

probably still want reload and spread reduction

[mighty belfry]

And I'm not gonna use it

[mighty belfry]

Tbf, I will say.

It's only immunity to specialists if you don't get hit in melee

For scum at least

Which, while I do think the cooldown is a bit generous

Street Tough is a talent that scales with player skill in an interesting way

If you're not that skilled, it's a safety net against getting overwhelmed by hordes

[limber cradle]

If you are good, it's a clutch saver

[mighty belfry]

If you are skilled, then that's when the real value of it being a specialist safety net really shines

And I do actually like that.

I just also do think having that available every 8 seconds is kinda crazy

Funny enough actually, it makes you more able to reliably rescue and revive people too

[vapid jungle]

8 seconds is a long time with 4-5 dodges and the best stamina regen in the game

[mighty belfry]

Given how much space and breathing room it provides, I barely ever feel like it's taking too long to kick in

And the times I mainly notice it is getting knicked by a rager or pounced by a dog

[brittle sierra]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[torpid cloud]

prolly not optimal but comfy

[warm axle]

AND be rescued. it procs when youre downed lol

[torpid cloud]

with any luck ill be able to get rampage after the next mission or two

[manic wolf]

See thats interesting because it almost seems to fill the same niche as Blackouts, but with a much shorter cooldown

Maybe they're gonna go down in power scale a fair bit because of this talent

[mighty belfry]

That's why I'm using blackouts in that build

Temu Arbites

It basically makes the thing scum lacks at, actually reliable

Which is stagger

[manic wolf]

Thats fair, though I feel like they're less good now because that talent has been put in

[torpid cloud]

It feels so off playing melee taxe scum without having rampage unlocked

[manic wolf]

Its kinda ended up being RPG supremacy

(as if it wasnt already)

[torpid cloud]

BTW on the strength stim side, do I go rending or finesse

[manic wolf]

Both are fine, play about with them, see which you prefer

[zenith pagoda]

What's the blessings for heavy sword?

Does perfect strike + deathblow work?

Also why is headtaker randomly higher strength on heavy sword lmao

[tranquil berry]

Because it's making it easy on you to understand that it's the best blessing

[zenith pagoda]

Idk 2 huge cleave blessings sound nice

[coral mirage]

you dont really need more cleave on the heavy swords its very good at that all ready iirc

[trim wind]

Headtaker also technically a cleave blessing

[zenith pagoda]

Do you take perfect strike or deathblow though

[astral canyon]

deathblow is just brutal momentum right

[trim wind]

Correct

The usual move is ht deathblow

[zenith pagoda]

Perfect strike cleaves carapace though

[mighty belfry]

I don't even think you need deathblow if I'll be real

[manic wolf]

Rending propaganda incoming

[zenith pagoda]

Does eviscerator benefit from rending?

[modest patio]

Is nimble good? the .15 seems so small it doesn't seem super good

but it is, right/

[mighty belfry]

It is ya

The .15 bonus is mainly there to counter the dodge technically ending faster for ranged attacks

Since you have dodge linger on melee, but not ranged

[modest patio]

So many scum talens feel good I'm still struggling making a tree lol.

Toxic renewal isn't good right?

or well, not worth it

[mighty belfry]

It's as good as the density of the mission you're playing

It's better the more enemies there are

[modest patio]

It's all so good..

Can't I just have it all

[manic wolf]

Yes. Across many different builds

[mighty belfry]

Doesn't really add enough damage to be worth imho

Heavy sword already has great cleave as is

Yeah you can cleave a crusher but if you're not doing much damage to them anyway, it doesn't really matter much

I'd say you're just better off trying to help what heavy sword isn't the greatest at baseline, which is actually killing them

That's how I came to running chained deathblow. Cuz crits actually do considerable damage to carapace especially with the special brittleness and Channeled Aggression

Plus, you have an attack that cleaves crushers and staggers the hell out of them anyway

[lilac crystal]

alley rat is insane, i dodge out of combat entirely

[zenith pagoda]

I love the fact they put it on all the ogryn weapons

When ogryn has the lowest crit chance and damage in the game

[mighty belfry]

Fatshark moment

[zenith pagoda]

Is the taxe base stamina only 1?

[plucky nymph]

dual stubs with max spread (talent tree + blessing) reduction is now aimlabs in darktide. so good if u pop heads fast in havoc xD

[low harbor]

Ye

[low harbor]

I got cucked by fatshark incredibly hard today

I’m owed at least 5k TR

[bronze glade]

maybe their datacenters got hit by iranian drones

[low harbor]

I feel like I deserve to be compensated

[upbeat pendant]

sanc mission aborts?

[narrow viper]

How are the dual stub pistols this patch?

[low harbor]

Played 4 games, 3 were aborted by unexpected error

[upbeat pendant]

yeah had them too yesterday, tried a private game with no hot joins and it still aborted

[low harbor]

And the other we lost because I killed my way out of a situation where all my teammates died, but can’t solo extract because the exfil zone needs at least 2 people inside to gain progress

I should add that I killed my way out of being chased by pack master + sword captain into aggroing 6 separate groups of reaper/gunner, with a bunch of ragers chasing behind, on top of specialist spawns coming to get me

[upbeat pendant]

yeah i hate that, it doesnt change to one if its only one person alive? that sucks

[low harbor]

But still lose because can’t solo exfil

[low harbor]

No lmao

Because FS did absolutely zero QA on this mode

The penance cosmetics require ridiculous amounts of grind to get

Completely unrealistic

250k TR extracted is a joke

100k scraps traded is a joke

The mode itself is fun but needs a lot of polish

[upbeat pendant]

yeah its a nice change of pace from the normal missions

[stray mulch]

scale of 1/10 how bad is this? [Bone Saw + Needly Pistol]

[mighty belfry]

Honestly. Not terrible at all

[stray mulch]

was fun slingshotting to safety and watching packs die but i think it could be better

[upbeat pendant]

do you really need pp? do you find yourself low on ammo often? you could use that point on something else, like splash damage

[stray mulch]

there is never a reason to not take Pick Pocket imo, I use the living hell out fo the pistol, but also splash damage only works if you kill via the melee hit

the toxin has been taking most of those kills and the radius is still kinda meh in auric and havocs, but i probably can try it again

[zenith pagoda]

Do I still need bromentum on taxe if I have like +200% cleave?

[stray mulch]

realistically i would give up alley cat for splash damage, when i get better at the game maybe

[upbeat pendant]

yeah, dodge nodes arent really needed imo rather spend the points on more utility or damage

[stray mulch]

i think ive only failed 1 havoc mission on this character so far, but i need alley cat because i havent played in months

[upbeat pendant]

nah trust you dont need it, and its gonna be weird when you take it out

[stray mulch]

and the dodge has been helping me clutch up. I also think it makes it easier to proc the +20% crit

imma try splash damage

[upbeat pendant]

its great especially in havoc

[stray mulch]

the spread might be nice if i get dense enough packs in melee

i still need a +3 stamina curio too...

[upbeat pendant]

pray for rngesus

[near mauve]

coolest gun on scum

i dont care if people think they're mid

easily the most fun gun

[upbeat pendant]

ngl im glad i get blessed stims for "free", past 6 havoc missions were just blight blight blight

[zenith pagoda]

How do MK1 shivs feel after cleave nerf?

[unreal stirrup]

taxe have cleave cap

[stray mulch]

okay so from my last round: Be less bad, and it's good

i'll use Splash now

[reef spoke]

I didn't feel a difference personally

it's not like adrenaline or rampage cares

[stray mulch]

i think they are amazing, those and the needle pistol are probably my 2 favorite guns in the game, even ahead of the vraks iag

[upbeat pendant]

you could also remove virulent strain and toxic mania for sweet spot and channel devastation since youre using chem dep, you should be at 30% crit chance for the most of the game

[stray mulch]

sitting at 95% top end

the weakspot damage and 15% would be nice if i were meleeing more XD

[upbeat pendant]

oh yeah fair if you arent meleeing most of the time then its not needed

[stray mulch]

yeah its either teams delete packs before they get to us or they die shortly after reaching because of the needle pistol

it's a fire and forget kinda thing, shoot a few at head height into a horde and they just die

[manic wolf]

Yes there is; Its stupid and shouldnt be a thing, crutch node

[stray mulch]

fam, i have 1 broken leg and 2 broken arms

let me use my crutches

[manic wolf]

Well glue them back together then

[mighty belfry]

Nah let them be, my guy out here lookin like this. They need it.

Jokes aside, that does suck.

[manic wolf]

I think he was talking metaphorically

[stray mulch]

Every morning i wake up with the sun burning my skin.

[stray mulch]

i was, but i was referencing that character XD

[lofty sand]

I'm having some confusion with desperado
specifically, I feel like reloading in the second half of the ability's active time still consumes ammo from reserve?

[mighty belfry]

Bro look at this point I don't know what's true and a lie nowadays

[manic wolf]

Hey its better than living in Britain, half our population evaporates when it reaches ten degrees

[stray mulch]

it does

[mighty belfry]

You could tell me you're playing this game while suffering from fucking radiation poisoning and I wouldn't bat an eye

[manic wolf]

Yeah, well, I'm the king of Portugal

[lofty sand]

am I misreading the ability or is that not meant to happen?

[stray mulch]

if your reload overlaps youconsume the ammo

you have to reload before you run out of time

[mighty belfry]

And I'm an Ugandan prince. Named Brad Pitt.

[stray mulch]

you aren't, the game doesnt elaborate and is speaking blatantly

[lofty sand]

I feel like I've been doing that? Unless the reload is significantly longer than the animation suggests

[stray mulch]

if you dont see the ammo in the clip, like the actual numbers, then you arent fully reloaded

the staging for reloads is a mechanic that cna be abused

can*, and well not abused

[lofty sand]

yeah nah, I've seen max clip and then like half a second later the ability ends and the reserve decreases

[stray mulch]

but taken advantage of, maybe not in this situation

[stray mulch]

ive neevr seen that, might wanna clip it and go to a forum

[lofty sand]

damn
alright, thanks

[lofty sand]

by staging, you mean how you can animation cancel and it'll keep parts of your progress, like dropping the mag at one point, then putting them back in, then cocking, right?

[stray mulch]

sorry if that didnt fully answer you

[stray mulch]

yes

[lofty sand]

nah, all good, if it's something you haven't seen then nothing you can do

[stray mulch]

like take the arby stub shotgun

you can load the bullets without completing the reload to get benefits from the perk

[manic wolf]

Shouldnt that be George Agdgdgwngo? (If you get this reference we're friends now)

[mighty belfry]

Holy shit. Now that's a reference I was not expecting.

[manic wolf]

BASED

[mighty belfry]

Only reason I even know about Fonejacker is cuz of an old ex lmao

[manic wolf]

Lmao

Hey at least you know

[mighty belfry]

One of the only good things about dating that bastard.

[stray mulch]

what do y'all think are the best curios? I'm Aiming for 2x 15% toughness and 1x +3 Stamina

the stamina is probably never gunna come to me tho

[mighty belfry]

Ima be real

It's really up to preference

This class can be really flexible with curios

[marble flower]

is hyper-citrical still anti-synergistic with hyper-violence?

[mighty belfry]

Never has been.

[stray mulch]

Fair. It IS only 2% attackspeed that i am missing, but the fact that i can get it irks me

[stray mulch]

what?

the damage rolls over into the next crit

and that left over rolls over into your damage

[manic wolf]

Its only an anti-synergy on weapons with slow attack speed

IE; Bonesaw

[stray mulch]

yeah, but hyper critical is still nice on the bonesaw imo

0 value from hyper violence imo

[manic wolf]

Thats the one Scum weapon I wouldn't touch with someone else's dick

[stray mulch]

WHAT?

IT'S FUN

[manic wolf]

Its shit

[marble flower]

I could have sworn when hive scum first came out, I heard not to take both at the same time, I think because hyper-critical instakilling the enemies was somehow robbing the hit that does the instakill from contributing to hyper-violence's damage buff? Again idk if that's actually true, that's why I asked here lol

[manic wolf]

To be fair, Crowbar is also pretty shit, but at least its funny

[mighty belfry]

Ah. I recall that it was Tanner that said this

He's wrong.

Simply put.

[astral canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/caitvitwt-zaunvi-fork-found-in-kitchen-stantwt-gif-15439188481285105806

[woeful hill]

https://tenor.com/view/aeth-aether-aethers-aethernet-dont-dm-me-gif-13191245155866573727

[mighty belfry]

So, since I have to explain this for lile

The 10,347th time

[stray mulch]

i like it because of the crit bonus and stacking with Coated Weaponry

[astral canyon]

Wtf is the spoon

[stray mulch]

though missing kills that could refill ammo does annoy me sometimes

[mighty belfry]

If your crit was already going to one shot what you're hitting, hypercrit doesn't proc at all, and won't interfere with hyperviolence ramping

[marble flower]

sweet, so it's fine to take both. Now I only have to figure out if I actually want to do that lol

If you could only have one on a rampage crowbar build, which would you pick?

[rare idol]

Crowbar is based

[stray mulch]

if anything pairing the 2 just provide more power and consistency for hoard clear right?

[mighty belfry]

Now don't get me wrong. If you haven't ramped up enough damage, hypercrit can proc and interfere except, if hypercrit procs, you most likely weren't doing enough overkill to transfer to that enemy to begin with.

Meaning the idea of hypercrit "interfering", is a complete nothingburger.

[mighty belfry]

Yerp

[rare idol]

So hypercritical works now that’s good

[mighty belfry]

Hmm

Probably hypercrit tbh

[manic wolf]

I still don't think its optimal to take both, but ymmv

[mighty belfry]

Crowbar just isn't very good at ramping damage for hyperviolence ime

[manic wolf]

Crowbar just isn't very good...

[stray mulch]

i think hyper crit does more than hyper violence at a base level so it would be a 1st pick imo

[upbeat pendant]

quick question is battering strikes needed on taxe? when i already have bm

[marble flower]

okay, if I'm understanding correctly, it's actually pretty stupid to run both. Not because the one interferes with the other, but because if hyper-violence is at all functioning, you should have enough damage to where you shouldn't be needing hyper-critical to jump in and help you one tap human enemies.

[manic wolf]

I dont think BM is worth it on TacAxe for Scum, but take it with a pinch of salt, its a divisive subject

[stray mulch]

how it interacts you got, but running both isnt stupid

[astral canyon]

Taxe has cleave cap

[marble flower]

my original hivescum melee build from around when hivescum came out used crowbar, and was stupid fun and good. But I tried remaking it and it doesn't feel as good, idk if they nerfed it or what

[manic wolf]

Yes, as does every weapon, but the point is Scum attacks so fast, has a cleave talent in the tree on kill and can profit a LOT from having more damage over more cleave

[stray mulch]

iirc hyper crit also kills strays in hoards no?

[manic wolf]

More Hyperviolence more gudder

[upbeat pendant]

so what would you suggest? getting battering strikes and swap bm for something else?

[marble flower]

Also the desperado autopistol build feels like it got gutted which makes me sad as it was really fun

[mighty belfry]

It's not.

[marble flower]

I'm struggling to find a build I like that actually works on scum now

[manic wolf]

I run HT/Decimator on mine and take Battering Strikes, you could also do Shred/HT or if you're feeling fruity Slaughterspree/HT

[tranquil fjord]

if youre already close enough to spray them down, then youre close enough to hit them in melee to get your ammo back

[mighty belfry]

Because hypercrit basically creates a breakpoint to one shot enemies

[astral canyon]

Cleave cap as in no matter how much cleave you stack it will always deal 0 damage past x number of targets

[manic wolf]

HT/Deci does require a lot more management than the other setups tho cos you drop stacks on missed swings

[upbeat pendant]

interesting, ill try those out

[mighty belfry]

If you're cleaving through hordes, you're losing damage after the first target, which can prevent you from killing targets after but

[manic wolf]

Aye, but you still profit from the stagger which makes it safer. But yes, in essence

[mighty belfry]

If you hit a crit, and you ramped up just enough damage on that first target to get hyperviolence's overkill to tip the cleave damage to that target, they will get one shot when they wouldn't have without the two working together.

Once you do ramp up enough overkill from hyperviolence, that won't matter anymore. But hyperviolence's timing is strict, so it helps to keep your horde clear consistent

And helps with rampage downtime where you're not doing as much damage.

[manic wolf]

Simply hit the heretics until they are dead

[upbeat pendant]

just out of curiosity if i just wanna m1 spam, any of these stand out?

[mighty belfry]

Mk4 vibes

[manic wolf]

Well I mean if you're just gonna spam lights you're leaving a lot on the table with any of the TacAxes

[mighty belfry]

Nah, Mk4's pretty good for it tbh

[manic wolf]

Even with the MKIV, heavies are still a super important part of the moveset

Its also better to pace yourself a bit if you're running Deci becuase just mashing lights into stuff will cause your stacks to drop off a LOT

[manic wolf]

Try them all, see what you like/what fits for you

[upbeat pendant]

I was only running mk7, will try out the rest and see how it feels

[manic wolf]

MKVII has the highest output, I dont really know much about the II because I dont like the moveset an the IV has the best special chain

[near mauve]

its literally still as busted

u just

kill ONE elite in melee when u run out

[marble seal]

You can spam lights with the mk7 and do good in all scenarios

[upbeat gyro]

I had night out hivescum

Perspective, have you had one?

This arrogant teenagerish posh dude, went to confront him

Dude was all coked up

[reef spoke]

that's a tall ask :c

[upbeat gyro]

Soon, i was all coked up, and we were friends

And that was that

[stray mulch]

especially when teammates just blast them before you can get into melee

[upbeat gyro]

I think i should go play some

[reef spoke]

you should give me your diamantine

[upbeat gyro]

I left in my refrigerator, 4 beers

Assuming, id share em with maidens at this hour

But here i am sharing em with you

The autism intensifies

Is it mine or yours though

Is music forbidden?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zg2076b5Lqc

[manic wolf]

I'll swap you 10K diamantine for 10K plasteel

[upbeat gyro]

Hi Stim-Shady

contact to another hivescummer initiated

[manic wolf]

o7, greetings

[upbeat gyro]

Northern european genotype, finnish, too much cocaine

Either way, buddhism and meditation as way out, unity and oneness

https://www.amethystmine.fi/fi/

my familyline made into tourist attraction

third eye amethyst, stories of cutting skin and putting it under there to see through third eye

how to portray egoless meditative states, meeting with excessive drunkedness and southern american ego booster

[upbeat gyro]

When you hit all the boxes of being legit, yet you are just a dude, its not about form, but about spirit, one consciousness

[upbeat pendant]

great recc, i love it feels nicer

[upbeat gyro]

Stimms, how about snortables? I want ability where you are more moderate drug user and just casually snort lot of, substances, not everyone stimms it

[real python]

hello scummers

[torpid cloud]

I'm trying to suss out decimator rn
It seems to reset if I miss

Or am I stupid

[bronze glade]

nope that's just how it works

[upbeat gyro]

oi, you got license for that hello

[real python]

i'll shank you mate

[upbeat gyro]

not if i shank you first

[torpid cloud]

It also seems quite easy to miss

Sad

[upbeat gyro]

i have to warn you, i was in army, and we had wrestling ring, only i couldnt push out was the professional ice hockey play, he took gravity center as defencelinesman, lower than me, and just lifted me up

[bronze glade]

yeah gotta be careful-- it also takes a while to stack

which makes misses pretty punishing

[torpid cloud]

If you two don't get along soon I will crush you with big rock

[bronze glade]

but if you're in a thicc horde, it's hard to miss at least

[real python]

anyone have a new rampage + adrenaline frenzy shiv build

[real python]

sounds like a lot excuses

[upbeat gyro]

well, lot of excusees were about 30 guys from my unit i first won

last one knew his center of gravity better than me

[torpid cloud]

Yes and no
Really depends on teammates as well, if they do their job or do an aoe stun a miss is quite easy

[upbeat gyro]

when i was in army, about 20 years ago, i was also 20 kg lighter

i could do 20 pull ups, nowdays i can do about 3-5

but i weight lot more

also back then, random blokes didnt offer me shitload of coke

[torpid cloud]

[upbeat gyro]

So if youre like, that might ought to be do it

Or why?

Yeah, thats why

[neat delta]

does adrenaline assassin go good w adrenaline smiter or no

I dont think I need assassin

[feral beacon]

It takes dedication to progressively overload your pullups by adding a kg of weight to your frame every week. 💪

[upbeat gyro]

I was never that hardcore, just did em

[feral beacon]

I meant the weight gain 😉

[upbeat gyro]

In army, maximum in test was 17, i did 18 and they told me to stop

Yeah this is when i was young trained this stuff

[mighty belfry]

assassin is bad

[upbeat gyro]

"in army" is also 20 years ago

in 90s, 00s, majority of folks were more fit than "internet generation"

before all that, me and my nerd friends, used to sports all day everyday

we were bored, so we did sports

including the nerds of our class, we just did LAN quake

[feral beacon]

I was never into sports as a kid. But we still were out playing or kicking a ball around for laughs.

[upbeat gyro]

my most nerd friends, were also my most sports friends, when were teenagers, in 90s

weird times go figure

[feral beacon]

I only started to actually train as a way of life in my early 30s. Took a while but now I like it. Yeah that wasn't weird really. I just never liked organized sports

[upbeat gyro]

and then the early 00s hit, and we listened to shpongle and ate mushrooms

they came from amsterdam and were legal back then

[feral beacon]

Picked them in a field and put them on a microwaved pizza.

[upbeat gyro]

i told my mom its biology project

casually growing 1kg of stropharuia cubensis mexicana under my bed

and sharing for free with all my friends

we had one cottage trip, we argued what color is the sky and water

everyone saw it differently

what we agreed though, was that the water vibrated and was in waves

but oi

cousin larry, i have beer in refrigerator

sorry for disturbing, gonna drin, and please talk about hivescum talent nodes

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamnaya_culture

But basicly, i have blue eyes and blonde hair and this lineage

Even though i should be of the proto-european variety, closer to darker skin like Napoleon from corsica, one of the places where it didnt take hold

Yamnaya mixed with herd and got plague

Earlier europeans didnt have plague immunity

Same as when europeans came to americas

Biological warfare without understanding

Anyways what makes this hivescum info?

[livid raven]

are you american

[upbeat gyro]

Probably the cocaine

Finnish, that is born in norway

You?

[livid raven]

italian

[upbeat gyro]

Cool, Mario

[livid raven]

wow racist

[upbeat gyro]

Call me reindeer, princess bitch

You are at best, what was the princess again?

Well, some kind of cunt

Anyways its complicato. I respect italian/roman contribution to things, but mostly stolen from greek. Which is mostly stolen from mesopotamian and egypt. But thats how civilisation grows

[unreal stirrup]

i cooka da pizza

[upbeat gyro]

Frutti di mare or formaggio?

[rancid gulch]

chicago

[upbeat gyro]

Here in Finland we used to have shitty pizzerias by kebab folks, now its all original italians making the pizzas in "roman style" or "napoli"

Some are good, some are just random italians making shitty food

The napoli with nduja though, bottom melted in my mouth

[soft ridge]

What's the best Scum build now after the update?

[upbeat gyro]

Probably one that is melee

New talents that bring it up

[spice cloud]

Melee with tox explosions

[upbeat gyro]

Kill elite, spreads toxin

[soft ridge]

Thats nice to hear lol, I honestly love the way Hive Scum's melee weapons feel

[upbeat gyro]

Another, get hit melee, you are now Ogryn

[soft ridge]

You guys have any trees I could use?

If not it's cool lol

[upbeat gyro]

They do

But they dont share with me either, so we have to do it ourselves

[rancid gulch]

big if true

[upbeat gyro]

And the tree is that cracked, that just throwing it in

Does it

2-3 days in, new patch

Just throw the talents in and enjoy

Some stronger than others, but whole class slays

[stray mulch]

idk if im trolling but im jacking the 6% attack speed XD

[upbeat gyro]

You rolling with the unoptimal

[stray mulch]

on a side note what perks do yall run on bonesaw

[spice cloud]

Put shock and awe on the bonesaw brother

Please

[upbeat gyro]

Saw thingy, it can work, but on the currently OP list of stuff, its on bottom, with crowbar

[soft ridge]

I see I see

What do you guys think of this tree?

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a08a5433-ea69-446a-8297-983ec4f6a3ca/get-jinxed

[stray mulch]

decimator give cleave via power no?

[spice cloud]

Go decimator + shock and awe

[upbeat gyro]

If you wanna dominate, drop bonesaw altogether

Stronger options

But meta is meta

[spice cloud]

Also take flak+maniac the stam wont really do much

[stray mulch]

not sure there is a meta when everything just literally changed

[spice cloud]

And ull struggle against ragers

[stray mulch]

i know i was trolling but when i leveled it it had it

lmao

[upbeat gyro]

Well crowbar and saw still shit tier

[spice cloud]

Im just saying

[upbeat gyro]

Sad state of facts

[rancid gulch]

I know it's suboptimal but I've been enjoying the dual stub pistols

[spice cloud]

True sigma

[soft ridge]

Whats the best ranged rn?

[rancid gulch]

I'm only level 17 though so I haven't unlocked needler or bolter

[spice cloud]

Extra style points

[upbeat gyro]

Shivs and every axe in existance, close to godtier

[soft ridge]

The build I sent is using bolt, it's not too bad tbh

[spice cloud]

The stubs are also my fav fuck the haters

[upbeat gyro]

Fucking meme saw and crowbar, hey, nice you like medieval larping too

[stray mulch]

so even if im building around coated weaponry go shock and awe?

[spice cloud]

Yes

[stray mulch]

hmm

gotchya

[rancid gulch]

getting into a rhythm with the flourish shot and popping several specialists in a row is so satisfying

[spice cloud]

Fax

It also has way better accuracy then most scum weapons

[rancid gulch]

The revolver is fun too but damn is the reload painful

[spice cloud]

Scum doesnt have vets reload talents

[upbeat gyro]

Skum used to have infinite dakka, its gone

[spice cloud]

Its still there

[upbeat gyro]

Its not, previously, 99% ranged

Now constantly switch to melee to make it happen

How to make sound obvious you havent played it, without making it so

[spice cloud]

https://tenor.com/view/cry-gif-15807479189092828048

Whinge whinge whinge

Its still there

Skill issue

[torpid cloud]

Trying to figure out what exactly tac axe is bad at
Huge swarms probably
But that might also be the lack of skills on my fresh scum
If I hit crits I can shred carprace pretty well

[drifting heron]

Tac axe is one of the best horde clear tools availible

[torpid cloud]

Then it's probably that I haven't leveled fully yet

Still need a couple games to get rampage so melee is kind of hamstrung rn by my active being exclusively to pull out my quick draw revolver for priority targets

[austere topaz]

I've seen a lot of builds skip out on hyper violence, I thought that one was crazy good?

[spice cloud]

It is

If u go melee i wouldnt skip it ever

[zenith fern]

It is good

[dark crystal]

Y'all got any build recs for a weapon swap basic bih vet trying to grind out 100 missions?

[stray mulch]

do the people here use Street tough?

[spice cloud]

Yes

Use all the defensive nodes

Atleast the 3 mandatory ones

[stray mulch]

still trying to figure out what it does to crushers. does it knock them on their ass or just staggers them?

[spice cloud]

I think the new one knocks em on the ass

Not crushers maybe

Im not sure

[upbeat pendant]

Nah wont knock crushers down

ragers dont get knock down

[stray mulch]

lame

[spice cloud]

I would still take it

[upbeat pendant]

its a small push

yeah i use it

[spice cloud]

Saves u from backszab

[stray mulch]

yeah i have it but im figuring out what to remove for alley cat

[upbeat pendant]

and the cooldown is really fast for a free push

[stray mulch]

i like the slingshot capabilities

hmm last quetion

10% incresed damage from virulet strain worth or not worth? I have it for the team but personally i might have to cut for the dodge distance

[spice cloud]

I usually ran a full dmg and attack speed stim

For when rampage is on cd

[stray mulch]

oh im using a 45s strength crit stim for stim supply

[spice cloud]

Ah u use crate

Same really

[stray mulch]

yeah, crate makes space for me since im a bot

[spice cloud]

I allways use a full stim with my crate

And then sample collector

[stray mulch]

i think im going away from crit stim soon though, got to 50% crit without the stim

[spice cloud]

Its allways nice imo

I prefer it over cooldown ir dr on the crate

[stray mulch]

want to test if rending is worth for toxin

lmao

[spice cloud]

And buffing ur teammates is funny

[stray mulch]

cdr does nothing for me, since when you get the stim you get another crate

[spice cloud]

Stim ogryn with stun resistance and watch him go

[spice cloud]

It does reduce the crate cd a little afaik but yeah

Its better for no crate

[stray mulch]

it does

but the crate doesnt give the stimm unless you have the stim ready

[spice cloud]

Yeah

[stray mulch]

at least that's my implication

[spice cloud]

I use crate as my stimm and collector for an extra stimm

[stray mulch]

the only time i stimm is when im below 3 stacks of dependancy

stimm crate stimm

then we can go to 4 when ever

[spice cloud]

I just do it all the time

So i never go below 4

[stray mulch]

oh wow, the rending actually shreds

lmao

from 718 per tick at max stacks to 971 on a crusher

[muted pivot]

I tend to like Finesse stimm for things like the shivs

[unique spire]

Dude stealing my drip

[zenith fern]

i did that drip day one on scum

stop stealing it from me

[unique spire]

No

I did that drip day one

[main wagon]

Wait I think I saw you a minute ago with different drip

[unique spire]

Faker

[main wagon]

I say a minute it was like 2 missions ago

[woeful jackal]

@unique spire

[main wagon]

This is mine, I've seen one person with the same torso + pants combo

To be fair, we don't really have a lot of options

[main wagon]

I miss when you could actually see the precinct on the deluxe Arbites gear

It was like having the gangs before the gangs

[zenith fern]

i have not played scum for few weeks

[spice cloud]

The police is the biggest band of bandits in every country

[main wagon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1280545185515966481/1461561476316922029/20260115_212315.gif

[spice cloud]

A few weeks ago i had to explain to a police officer that he has no right to just randomly demand a urin sample

These fckn tools piss me off

Just say u wanna see my wiener

Cant they get a real job and work like the rest of us?

Personally i dont need em

[main wagon]

Had a cop pull up on me once when I was doing security once years ago

Full uniform, badge, jacket with sergeant stripes just sitting in my car in our parking lot

First just pulled thru, but doubled back and then slowly crept up behind me with the spotlight on and throws on her blues

Walks up to the passenger window and starts doing the "wuddya doin"

"My job?"

"you the owner of this vehicle?"
"uh huh"
"why the attitude"
"because I didnt call you, I dunno what youre doing grilling me"

Havent seen her since, but I liked the other regular ladycop because she had pink handcuffs for breast cancer awareness month once

[spice cloud]

Shouldve told her:“im working you should try it too sometimes“

But i wouldnt do that if i was american cause then she would prolly just shoot me

[cunning hawk]

were shivs nerfed into the dirt or are they still strong?

[upbeat pendant]

still strong

[cunning hawk]

ty

i like them more than bone saw and its the other 2 melee weapons i have fully unlocked lmao

any other melee weapons yall would recommend? ive heard the crowbar isnt great so havent sunk any time into it yet