hivescum-class

[main holly]

same :3

[manic wolf]

Christ i wish my cat did. He only wants a fuss if he thinks you have food, else he doesnt wanna know. Old an grouchy

[main holly]

she is young barely 2 years old

[manic wolf]

Bless

[main holly]

but she is a little princess ^^
teh red one though: cuddle monster 9000 and the cutest handicat you can have while gaming

[river skiff]

Making us jealous aren't you

[main holly]

not my intention no ^^

[river skiff]

@main holly Just checked .. THEY ARE SO FLUFFY

I assume they are some breed aren't they?

[soft hare]

Ah

[river skiff]

Why?

[soft hare]

To play darktide

[river skiff]

Oh

I'd need to start my PC

Do you wanna?

[soft hare]

Yuh but I’m not home anymore when I first asked I’m on PlayStation tho

[river skiff]

Isn't there cross play?

My friend used to have Xbox and it worked there

[manic wolf]

If you opt into it yes, need Fatshark friend codes to do join each other

[soft hare]

Ah yeah, I was just letting you know what I play on my bad

[river skiff]

I don't mind tbh

It's fine

[main holly]

teh orange one is 50% norwegian forest, yes ^^
the blakc oen is a normal housecat

[mystic rain]

alr im using boom bringer kill all crushers

ah yes people dislike us spamming crushers lets do an event thats all crushers

[soft hare]

Bet I’ll be home later if u down to play

[river skiff]

Honestly I would have enjoyed the event if it was just crushers and reapers

[main holly]

trying to get her to let me groom her fur is a fun event though xD

me chasing her then being allowed to groom her partially before she dashes

[river skiff]

Bulwarks are obnoxious in high numbers

[river skiff]

Smol car

😂

[river skiff]

Well crushers can be too but at least you can deal damage to them it's tricky with shield wall in front of you to deal anything to bulwarks

[main holly]

tbh i fidn the conga lines of bursters more annoying

[manic wolf]

At least player hitboxes are fixed now an they're not hitting from 800 fcukin miles away

[main holly]

still push the first oen and the next does this:

[manic wolf]

furiously spams pushes in panic

[main holly]

poxburster PTSD is real xD

[manic wolf]

Legit

The "oh shit they're in the spawn door three feet away" is another one the game rather enjoys

[main holly]

worst shit is if the spawn silently behind a door and instajump you from the back

[manic wolf]

They've always been intermittently buggy with audio but when they first put Auric in the audio engine really couldnt handle things an stealth bursters have been a huge issue ever since

[river skiff]

I have a mod for that

I can see if they are camping behind the walls even if they don't have sound

[upbeat pendant]

ooo the danger zone mod? i use it too, it helps alot

[river skiff]

I have specifically installed it at first to deal with poxbursters as I was mad from having no opportunity for counterplay

[river skiff]

Yeah

I had modified it for other enemies too

[river skiff]

I can see crushers and maulers when they get behind me

And also general locations of bombers

[upbeat pendant]

i use it mainly for the bursters and barrels, the demonhost radius helps too

[river skiff]

Range for pushing the hound and sniper also has a small circle that helps me identify it when it's far away

[river skiff]

It does

[upbeat pendant]

i didnt even know the radius grows after it "wakes" before using it

[thin crag]

are the shivs still busted?

[livid raven]

they weren't touched at all

if you thought they were busted before, they still are

[unreal stirrup]

theyre good

dont need buff nor nerf

caxe is still better anyway

[astral canyon]

and if you thought they weren't before, they are now because of scum buffs

[mighty belfry]

It's the only build I can reliably cancel bugged rituals with.

[upbeat pendant]

damn maybe 3x health really isnt needed, just finished a h40 with only 75 dmg taken, it was a skill issue all along

[limber cradle]

Agreed

I like 1x hp on scum tbh

Stop you from getting horseshit one shots

Like your trigger-happy arb teammate blowing up a burster on you

[upbeat pendant]

So 1x hp and 2x toughness? How many bursters/crusher overhead can I survive with that

[limber cradle]

2x stamina tbh

[upbeat pendant]

I just don’t wanna go back to getting insta full dead when I first started playing scum

[limber cradle]

You need 5 percent HP to survive one burster

You're not surviving a crusher overhead iirc

[upbeat pendant]

even in a desp build?

[limber cradle]

I do not run Desp tbh

[upbeat pendant]

It’s the only one I found success with, tried melee rampage/supply and went on a 12 game lose streak, but I wasn’t using 3x hp, I might try it next time and see if it’s easier for me

[verbal dew]

you do with 3 health and rampage active

on havoc that is

[limber cradle]

40?

[verbal dew]

you don't instadie, just go down

ye

[limber cradle]

Neat

[verbal dew]

any previous corruption screws you tho

[limber cradle]

Which will probably happen at some point

[sturdy linden]

I use 2x hp 1x tough

Because I'm a bad

[limber cradle]

I was running 2 HP 1 stamina for awhile but tbh

I either explode or I don't

It's never chip

[sturdy linden]

2x hp allows me to eat shit from bursters

And survive

Managed to clutch for a bit pretty hard thanks to that yesterday

I shrimply accept that I'm not a god gamer and build and play around that

[limber cradle]

You only need 1 for that

Scum has Vet hp

You technically only need 1x 5 percent health

I stopped running toughness cause scum toughness pool is dogshit to begin with

But has a lot of ways to regen

[jaunty spire]

Why would you eat shit? Is the food on the ship that bad?

I thought the ogryns liked it

[main trellis]

I dunno about that
Woudn’t corruption kill you out? Remember its basically 50% of the HP required as corruption for you to just die

[verbal dew]

I mean

I have done it?

[main trellis]

Record it

[verbal dew]

next time I'm doing havoc, sure

[manic wolf]

The Ogryns would eat mutants and trappers if they were left to their own devices

Its not a high bar

[main trellis]

I would eat a trapper too

[manic wolf]

Willy, my dick has taken me to places my heart wouldnt go aswell, BUT THERE ARE LIMITS MAN!

End up getting the worst cock-rot in the material universe

[floral galleon]

Sounds like weak force of will

[floral galleon]

Heal it up then

[main trellis]

You know that meme of a bald guy who screams & looks down? Ye that

[floral galleon]

What about Rinda Karnak-

The sister

[main trellis]

No

[manic wolf]

I feel like she'd probably break all three of us, and not in the good way

[near relic]

Is there an agreed upon "best" melee scum build at the moment?

[manic wolf]

The one that you enjoy

[near relic]

I enjoy the best one. >:(

[main trellis]

Shivs… its obviously crit shivs

[near relic]

this is my current build

[floral galleon]

Oh there are things I'd do to and say about her that are downright not safe for this server

[floral galleon]

@main trellis WILL be judging that

[near relic]

I judge his Psyker builds, so it's fair

[floral galleon]

My original traumapsyker got us through that ridiculous mission that took us WAY too long, all I changed was crit to rending shockwave

[verbal dew]

rending trauma is v nice for the event

[main trellis]

Whats your ranged?

[mighty belfry]

Enough health with rampage's DR can let you only get downed by an overhead

[main trellis]

That would make sense

Still extremely impractical

[mighty belfry]

Impractical. But with Forge's, it can actually save a bad situation from getting worse

Since second shout procs while downed

[main trellis]

Or better; not allow a bad situation to occur in the first place

Always have the eyes on the prize (crushers)

[mighty belfry]

Tell that to the ninjafoot crushers

Which.

Toughness ain't doing much about

[main trellis]

Turn around from time to time

[mighty belfry]

They don't even have to be behind you!

I got overheaded by a crusher hiding behind a chaos spawn the other day

[near relic]

currently needler

[mighty belfry]

Ahem

Needler lame

Bistol supremacy

[near relic]

I like DoTs.

[main trellis]

So you wanna tell me when you were facing the CS you did not saw a crusher AT ANY GIVEN time thought that fight and did not thought ‚hmmm crushers are about; better be careful’?
Sounds like a prime yikes to me (sorry i cannot imagine this shit)

[mighty belfry]

Nope.

[main trellis]

You dissapoint me my friend…

[near relic]

Again, I like DoTs.

[mighty belfry]

My guess is while I was fighting it. It must have positioned itself perfectly behind the spawn

When the spawn died. In it's ragdoll I suddenly just go down

[main trellis]

Me 2
Just not like pickpocket + needler combo; might aswell never melee - just shoot

[velvet folio]

Ive been running desperado dependency with CDR stimm for infinite crit autogun

[mighty belfry]

With a pixel of the maul they used through the chaos spawns dead body.

And then they go through the body

[velvet folio]

Pickpocket is a funny skill

[main trellis]

Aaahhh see; that clarifies things
Ye can happen

[mighty belfry]

I just couldn't help but snort

[main trellis]

Like porky from loony tunes?

[mighty belfry]

Like

What can you even do there?

I didn't even hear the cue either.

Probably because there was a specialist strike team pressuring us hard so it got drowned in the rest of the sounds

That being said

I did get picked up

And that would not have happened had it not been for the extra health and rampage working together for enough fluff not to fully corrupt me to death

That being said

I do wonder if there's a breakpoint of sorts for how much health I'd need for that to happen

Since I've been running adrenaline recently and in that case

It is actually nice to have more toughness to work with cuz of unbound making returns on toughness more impactful

[mighty belfry]

Ya

Someone even mentioned they were surprised I didn't just die lol

Or I can be insane and try one health two Stam like I did the other night

Cuz I know for sure I was able to take a mauler overhead with that setup

1 health with 3 health perks

[mighty belfry]

Quick and deadly overrated

And somehow

You chose that

Over hyperviolence???

I am judging.

Hell I'd take hyperviolence over pickpocket there even

[main trellis]

I would also take tox on crit; its extra dmg

On the big lads

[mighty belfry]

I don't think it's as impactful but it definitely helps to have it if it fits the build

Really hyperviolence is my real concern there

Not taking that on a shiv build is a tragedy.

[mighty belfry]

Also pertaining to that game I was talking about earlier

Albeit unrelated

Two scum teams are actually crazy good if one of them is running stimm crate with a good setup for buffs

[livid raven]

yeah ok

but what about 4 scum teams

[near relic]

I have not noticed hyperviolence making a meaningful difference, honestly.

[unreal stirrup]

caxe really

and taxe

proc per hit

not swing

[mighty belfry]

Use your heavies more

[near relic]

I do use heavies. =|

[mighty belfry]

More.

Intertwine that as much as you can into your play

Because that's what creates the flow of overkill

I've nearly one shot ranged twin before because of hyperviolence

And I have one shot a burgle before because of it

A weakened one

But nonetheless

[livid raven]

i think it's just a skill that is hard to gauge how much it's actually doing in the moment

[soft hare]

Yo boot up yo pc and hop on

[limber cradle]

I full 360 all the time tbh

Especially during a reload

[river skiff]

I just finished

😭

[zenith fern]

Net trapped and the CSpawn fisting the shit out of you

[soft hare]

Bet

[limber cradle]

I'm getting killed by CSpawn grabs a lot lately tbh

Actually

[soft hare]

Dodge

[limber cradle]

@woeful hill do you have the CSpawn grab chart?

[limber cradle]

No shit?

[soft hare]

Chill salty

[zenith fern]

Deadasss bomber throwing the fire while you CSpawn grabbed

[limber cradle]

The line is the tentacle prepping grab?

[woeful hill]

yeah

[limber cradle]

This, yeah

[zenith fern]

That 90° degrees or less?

[limber cradle]

So you souls it

Roll into the attack

[woeful hill]

into towards the tentacle yeah

[limber cradle]

It's not something I get to practice often tbh

[zenith fern]

Slide dodge seems to be more efficient as what I seen about

[astral canyon]

slodge

[zenith fern]

Sludge

[soft hare]

Hop in one of these cords?

[zenith fern]

You tried on meat grinder?

[limber cradle]

I don't mod the game

[river skiff]

I am sorry but I do not feel like playing anymore I just played the game for like 2 hours

[zenith fern]

Honestly I still fumble because playing Ogryn

And during hordes

[limber cradle]

I'd play Og if I liked more than one weapon on that mf

[soft hare]

Oh that’s wht u meant my bad

[river skiff]

All is good

[zenith fern]

Put CSpawns at the naighty corner with your shovel

[limber cradle]

I only like Pickaxe

[zenith fern]

Rock them

Crunch

[marble seal]

Gunker slodge

[soft hare]

Hop on tmr

[mighty belfry]

Chaos spawn is like

The most unintuitive thing to dodge in this entire game

Chaos spawn is one of the primary reasons I like Dclaw so much rn

It worked real well for me. But it is a tad more brain on than the other build

[limber cradle]

I think a majority of my deaths have been to "grabbed by CSpawn, set on fire" lately tbh

[woeful hill]

Get into habit of dodging right

[limber cradle]

Dark souls it

I normally dodge back tbh

[woeful hill]

Bad habit

Yeah

[limber cradle]

Apparently

Tbf I feel most of these engagements would go better if it wasn't

Haha entire team died

[woeful hill]

It's opposite to VT and some weapons enforce the bad habit (knife/DS with their insane dodge distance/speed)

[limber cradle]

As much as I want to queue havoc rn I probably shouldn't

Too tired

[sturdy linden]

idk man solo queue last few days has been absolutely not it

the complete and utter opposite of "it" in fact

I have run into playstyles and blessing choices that seem like actual trolling

in every single game

yesterday I had a lv 2500 Vet who was obviously extremely skilled as a player but all he did all game was shoot his recon into hordes while constantly kiting backwards

I clutched the remaining 2 guys once, but the 2nd time I got rocked and this guy just would not change his patterns

I actually waited like 10mins for him to finally reach us and then he crumbled to a pack of shotgunners he didn't notice

[limber cradle]

I would be inclined to agree

[lost ravine]

could just have been experimentation

[sturdy linden]

Bro in the last 3 days I have had on my team:

• the aforementioned recon Vet
• a Vet who literally did nothing except shoot revolver and throw grenades and use his melee to block and dodge. Went down 8 times.
• a psyker with Terrifying Barrage + Surge on Trauma
• a Desperado scum with Terrifying Barrage + Inspiring Barrange on brauto
• a non-Agri shotgun desperado scum emptying his gun into crusher swarms
• an Ogryn taking mk4 knife with Cstrike into Event
• an Arbi that refused to use his melee and kept pinging for ammo (at least he had a Vraks IAG)

And a few more I'm forgetting rn

This is just over the course of a few games in the last 3 days

I don't even feel like firing up the client at this point

[lost ravine]

inspiring barrage is not on iag as far as i know

so must have been braced

[sturdy linden]

Sorry yeah brauto

Mixed up with the vraks iag arbi

[lost ravine]

but yes that sounds like quite the experience

[sturdy linden]

https://tenor.com/view/cringe-gif-24107071

[brittle sierra]

Inspiring maxing 😈

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a13b5947-b2a5-4692-ab02-94d9e8b58415/healing-vet?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

[nova valley]

Well... At least you cannot complain of ppl running only meta builds

[sturdy linden]

I would unironically take the most metaslave team comp of Desperado Scum + Plasma Vet + Purg Shriek Psyker at this point

than deal with what I've been seeing

[nova valley]

It was a joke

[sturdy linden]

yeah I mean I'm not some 4k+ hour meta-hater I just don't want my little time spent playing to feel like a tedious waste

[nova valley]

But anyway, I guess that when you go public, you really get what you get. I think is the scourge but also the blessing of co-op games

[sturdy linden]

dunno it's just the last few days

wasn't near as bad a couple weeks ago

[nova valley]

I used to play DbD (completely different game) and goin solo as a survivor was really an absolute random experience.

Same on dota2

So I guess it's no different anywhere else. You always have a mix that potentially involves a full meta rtrd, a newbie and someone running a meme build

[mighty belfry]

I try to go non-meta but turns out the stuff I use should be meta cuz it's good

[lost ravine]

simply make your own meta

[mighty belfry]

I will die on this hill and say devil's claw is hidden meta

People are sleeping on it and I will not tolerate such insolence

[lost ravine]

it's okay until you have a crusher in your face

[mighty belfry]

The crusher will die.

It always does.

[lost ravine]

to what, the dclaw?

[mighty belfry]

Yes.

[lost ravine]

50 strikes later?

[mighty belfry]

Nope.

[lost ravine]

only with extra rending from some other source of something else to cover that weakness

[mighty belfry]

That or coated weapon with shred

And parries.

Understand that this is one weapon

That has actual impact blessings on scum

Which is actually kinda huge

Crushers can just get canceled in their overheads

And because of the beefing this class can do, it actually makes it a considerably reliable weapon on all fronts

Oh and it has skullcrusher so you can do something really funny with pocket blackouts

[marble seal]

Scum does 1 trillion damage per swing anyway so might as well use the weapon with a parry

[tawdry cipher]

has anyone run agile on tact axe with hive scum

can you just perma slide around

while cutting up things

[sturdy linden]

I mean, Jittery exists

[bronze glade]

agile's the ultimate noob trap blessing

[upbeat gyro]

Id probably end up on that list too had you met my psyker lastnight, im on my... 5th game after 2 year break, i forgot button for quell for first 1-2min of the match

And blew myself up even while having the F skill that vents out peril

(mutant provided crucial help in making that happen)

[drifting glade]

So, is there a hidden modifier on the Rumbling Giants event? My Boom Bringer keeps regening charges.

[zenith fern]

Grenade replenishment on elite kills

I think is on bulwarks

[drifting glade]

ah ok. Yeah I saw some small grenade icon on my buff bar, was thinking it was Veteran at first or something. But it's nice not having to "worry" about when to use the rocket. (this will have consequences later)

[zenith fern]

Scums and Krak vets would all be dead if it wasnt for the replenishment

[drifting glade]

true true. Still its a nice event to farm some of those 1500 kills penances

[zenith fern]

One shotting crushers back in brute conscripts before the scab health buff as ogryn was the funniest thing

[maiden pine]

what difficulty is this

[main holly]

wake up check hivescum channel see Solmyr pfp, not disappointet

[drifting glade]

solmyr best myr

[main holly]

tower goat ^^

[maiden pine]

playing double barell shotgun with desperado

should I go vulture's mark or chem dependency

[upbeat gyro]

Thats highest ive yet seen

[main holly]

I prefer vulture + tripple barrel xD get the magbupgrade and you have 3 shots, very enjoyable

[upbeat pendant]

ay i played with that ogryn before, hk server?

or maybe not, the one i played with was GigaChad

[upbeat gyro]

Eu

[maiden pine]

let me try that

[river skiff]

I have second thoughts about my build now

I switched to finesse damage after community feedback but now my perk no longer seems like a clean choice

[main holly]

which one?

[river skiff]

I am speaking of 10% damage to weakspots

[main holly]

shoudl stack with the finesse boosts tbh

[river skiff]

Yeah it's additive

But 5% crit chance is now scaling with crazy base attack of shivs plus 60% more damage from finesse

[river skiff]

Before I switched from bleed stacks weakspot dmg simply seemed more reliable

Now there is this 60% scaling that can pop for crits

[main holly]

i mean, thats good, no?

specially for ogryns

might onepop reapers?

[river skiff]

No you don't get it lmaoo

😭 😂

I am not complaining about it

I am just overthinking my build

[muted pivot]

Weakspot perk on weapon is never worth it

Even on a weapon like shivs

Finesse blessing is good because it's such a high bonus

Weapon perk bonus is much smaller so just take an armour or elite up or something

[river skiff]

I took weakspots cuz they can be triggered with everyone and I generally try to aim for them anyway and every other enemy type except of ogryns die to well placed weakspot

[river skiff]

But it also goes into monstrosities and captains

[muted pivot]

We all aim for weakspots anyway, it still isn't worth it

[river skiff]

Should I go crit then?

[muted pivot]

I take flak maniac on shivs personally

Wait no

Flak carapace

[river skiff]

All flak enemies die too easily imo

[muted pivot]

It turns some 2shots into 1shots which is huge, and it feeds hyperviolence

Hyperviolence weapons in general pretty much always take flak AFAIK

[river skiff]

Good that you say it

I wanted to ask about that too actually

Does hyper violence act as target ignore for cleave?

[river skiff]

Like if it procs can I cleave one more enemy in place of the old one?

[muted pivot]

Are you thinking of hypercritical?

[river skiff]

Oh sorry

Yeah

[muted pivot]

I'm honestly not sure in either case tbh lol, I imagine not though

I guess it'd possibly help bromentum trigger with stuff like tac axe

[river skiff]

Should I be even taking that talent then? 😭

It sounds like all it does is make me 1 attack sooner to kill them but in the same breath making it anti synergistic with hyper violence

I imagine having trash enemies not die to one hit could be really good cumulatively since they get staggered anyway so they aren't a threat and then they turn into my damage in the second swing up until the point when I start instant killing them anyway which is when the whole loop resets

[muted pivot]

It's Complicated

Generally the advice I see is to take both for shivs

[river skiff]

What's rationale behind it?

[muted pivot]

Makes you a generally better fighter. You can always start a hyperviolence chain with a heavy anyway, but hypercrit can ensure you're putting down an important target with more reliability in a pinch

Idk

Even if you have to restart your hyperviolence, just dropping a rager with a light attack is huge

[flat mist]

No

[muted pivot]

And hyperviolence isn't really that sustainable anyway honestly

It's a great bonus when it works out

But it's not like Scum doesn't work without it

[river skiff]

Gotcha

Good point

[muted pivot]

Human sized elites just fucking dropping dead from lights is like half the joy of scum

[flat mist]

I agree with both for shivs

I wasn't running HC for so long because of a discussion on here. Added it back in when I'd gotten a LOT more competent with scum and holy shit could i feel the difference

[river skiff]

I have been using both and I like how the build runs but I always try to think of ways to optimize

[flat mist]

Its kinda gross strong, even more than HV imo bc as @muted pivot says HV is just so hard to maintain

[flat mist]

Its like half the fun for me

[upbeat gyro]

How you guys like Rashad? Started with it, then moved to shivs, then tac axe, now thinking of returning again, slowness is what made me move away

[flat mist]

Optimizing/theorycrafting, that is

[flat mist]

Rashad is very strong but i dont enjoy using it

[river skiff]

[muted pivot]

Seems decent but idk why everyone says it's our#1

[upbeat gyro]

Same as me then i guess, mobility just sucks and slow to swing

[muted pivot]

Horde clear slower than tac axe, but the heavies have 90% damage Vs carapace

[upbeat gyro]

Half the fun is being so speedy

[flat mist]

Because path said it is and a few people started repeating the line

[muted pivot]

Doesn't care about crit, which can be a good thing because it gets you away from chem dep

[river skiff]

Ngl I love shivs too much personally the only thing I somewhat miss is parry but they are already stupidly broken with great moveset so I shouldn't be greedy lmao

[muted pivot]

Which is a great keystone but it does change how you approach your stimm

I take shivs 1, tac axe 7 or bonesaw

I know everyone hates the saw but idk it's fun on a full chemist build

It keeps me near the team so I put my crates better

[flat mist]

I cant justify maxed out chems anyway, so the flexibility to take 75s cd is retained

[muted pivot]

Because it's shit and makes me rely on them to survive lmao

I'm a 4 stack twat though so I need a monobranch stim lol

[flat mist]

Imo chem dep gives stimm flexibility bc theres no way im taking no CD stimm AND no chem dep

[flat mist]

My hurr durr brain wants to take 4 so bad

I hate seeing the 3

[river skiff]

I think you get more value outta them if you run the talent that decreases their cooldown since it's percentage based - initial cooldown starts being less relevant for massive upside

[muted pivot]

If you are spamming the stimms anyway you might as well imo

Without the duration nerf part, it's exactly as valuable as every other mark of the keystone

*part

[main holly]

ohhhhhh ... sorry my dumb ass brain was like: i dun see the problem xD

[muted pivot]

Like it improves your whole keystone by 1/3

[river skiff]

It's all good I realized lmao 😂

[flat mist]

Haha funny you say that bc i had a lengthy disagreement with people on here with me making that exact point

They were disputing that you'd take the first point spent into consideration

[muted pivot]

Yeah I've had that argument here a few times before too

[main holly]

i really shoudl get checked for autism at some point xD

[muted pivot]

I really value eliminating normal hits highly too

On a crit weapon like shivs

[flat mist]

Literally spent ages calling me dumb for pointing out the 1/3 thing then it turns out they were just disregarding the initial point spent because

[muted pivot]

Increasing crit chance is a lot bigger of a deal than people say imo

[flat mist]

So silly

[flat mist]

Dude yes

[high mirage]

Saw rocks

[flat mist]

I hate the "oh my crit chance is already high i dont need more" rubbish

[river skiff]

Could be ADHD too they overlap quite a bit

[main holly]

oh i do have adhd ^^

nonetheless... checkign doesnt hurt :3

[muted pivot]

A crit isn't a bonus hit on shivs, a normal hit is a penalised hitm

[river skiff]

Same here

[muted pivot]

I have autism confirmed and suspect ADHD if we're talking about that lol

[main holly]

hey ^^ you could be my mirror ^^

ADHD confirmed autism suspected :3

[river skiff]

Wait who now

[muted pivot]

Fun life

[flat mist]

I am an absolute champion at diagnosing people with adhd/autism, im literally always right

[river skiff]

😭

[flat mist]

Its my lil hobby since my adhd diagnosis two years ago

[river skiff]

Are you talking of me

[high mirage]

Another lame superpower to the list

Autism/ADHD detection

[flat mist]

Nooooo its cool af

[upbeat gyro]

Im 80s kid, none of us had it diagnosed, i guess people mostly found out if they did upper drugs and instead of going hyper, they chilled instead

[main holly]

we are samesies, no?

[muted pivot]

It's like gaydar

[flat mist]

Turns out ive been collecting AuDHDers (the term for having both) my whole damn life

[high mirage]

It's a variant of it

[flat mist]

Definitely not daddy issues

[high mirage]

Most questionable Pokémon master out there

[river skiff]

You seem cool but I dunno you so yeah 😭 I am sorry lmaoo

[main holly]

well we do liek to gather in troves :3

[muted pivot]

Similar way to engage in similar hobbies

[river skiff]

Personally I don't think I have autism

[main holly]

it's fine ^^ have a hug

adhd is enough as it is imo

[muted pivot]

It says a lot that we're adults on a discord server dedicated to a horse shooter from 2022 or whenever

FFS 🐴

[river skiff]

[muted pivot]

Horde

[main holly]

[upbeat gyro]

Im just here because i still havent found the horse after all these hundreds of missions

[muted pivot]

Anyway about to drive

Afk

[main holly]

seriously i have two cats and i do not know which of us 3 has the shorter attention span xD

or sleeps more xd

well ... tehy win the sleepy contest

[flat mist]

Im literally waiting in the dark for my gf right now bc she got talking to someone after dropping off the split (she works in film blah blah blah) and im like.... oooof deep breathe irosk, you picked an AuDHDer, yes this is classic dad shhh but her impulse control + forgets about social shit aint never gonna change lmao

[high mirage]

I love throwing out the fact that I like 40k in public settings because I can see the millisecond a nerds Spidey sense activates

[river skiff]

They promised me a stallion .. Why are you making me question my life decisions

[main holly]

you gonna scare her?

[river skiff]

She bought a car meter

LOL

[main holly]

🚙

[high mirage]

Is it worth building stam curios for the talent that gives attack speed with stam?

[flat mist]

Its not out of my wheelhouse but she might murder me out of fright then murder me out of rage so ima leave it (its been a big day haha)

[river skiff]

Ngl everytime I do I have to clarify that I am not a cuckoo in the head

[river skiff]

It's fun and maybe worth it for daemonhosts

But otherwise it's a meme build

[high mirage]

Same, it's that or people ask me how I managed to get a girlfriend

[flat mist]

Two stam curios is dope

[river skiff]

It's nuts how much stamina that fucker deals ngl

[flat mist]

Perfectly reasonable to take into endgame content

[high mirage]

Gotcha gotcha

[river skiff]

Lmao

[high mirage]

Yeah, I'm running two +3 stam curios and one +18 health

Makes my scum very slippery

[main holly]

so if you scare her she will mureder you so hard you gonna die to death?

[flat mist]

Yeah i cant live without atleast two stam curios

[river skiff]

Giving me work to do aren't you

[main holly]

just sneak in karking hel or throne when cursing, instant nerd detection

[flat mist]

Ive switched it up multiple times and the extra swing speed often saves me from taking hits bc im killing/staggering faster

[river skiff]

Lmaooo

[main holly]

wait u a cleaner?

[river skiff]

[river skiff]

Bruh check my nick

[high mirage]

Same; I wanna try just building health curios but that extra stamina is just too good

[flat mist]

Something like that lmao

[main holly]

https://giphy.com/gifs/oil-diddy-baby-n1hvGNhLxYIiSbfwH7

[high mirage]

Real

[river skiff]

😅

[river skiff]

Yeah my brain went somewhere else lmaoo 😭

[main holly]

sorry ^^' i mean ... don't you have subsidiaries for daily work?

[flat mist]

General consensus is toughness > health, but it doesnt matter that much

[river skiff]

Converted em into juicy souls hm

[main holly]

i rock 3 toughness on scum

[flat mist]

Skill expression > minor gear changes

[main holly]

thought about stam for melee ... but never needed it

[flat mist]

Stam is fun though

[high mirage]

That's what I was lead to believe as well but I've been seeing a bunch of people talk about tanking crusher overheads and sniper shots like they're nothing BC they're running just health curios

[river skiff]

I am still collecting the third one and waiting for my havoc rewards

[flat mist]

If you havent run +86% attack speed scum you're missing out

[river skiff]

Agreed

[flat mist]

Yeah ive seen that too, gotta try it out

[river skiff]

At that point they are bound to die to chip damage more likely than not

Health curios are a good choice for zealots and arbi

But I wouldn't take it with anyone else

[main holly]

i mean ... stam can be fun. i dohave a +3 one for zealot, vet and arbi

+3 ona rbi with shield and block efficiency makes you block crusher overheads, very funi ^^

[river skiff]

That's so cool what

[main holly]

only one though

[river skiff]

Now I want arbi more lol

[main holly]

2nd one flattens you 100%

[river skiff]

I mean you would be dead normally so that's success

[main holly]

i made the buidl for a freind who had trouble surviving damnation so she coudl join us :3

[main holly]

true that. i also have the talent that reduces dmg over next wound by 40% iirc

[river skiff]

Wait isn't it a zealot talent

???

[main holly]

arbi has it too

but i did not take it

[flat mist]

Arbi has 50 max damage taken in a hit

[river skiff]

Oh hm

[river skiff]

That's really good

[flat mist]

For overheads, snipes and bursters, yeah

[main holly]

imma check ingaem RQ

[river skiff]

Bursters are bugged af

So that's a win

[river skiff]

I think it already ignores snipes doesn't it

[flat mist]

Its called True Grit iirc, bottom right above the keystone

[flat mist]

Idk what you mean sorry

[river skiff]

The shield

Snipers cannot shoot through

[flat mist]

Oh shield blocks everything

[main holly]

yeh i just do not remember if i have it in the build or not xD

i think i decided to grab the dog dmg improvmeent after using ability

as the dawg is the dmg in this build ^^

[river skiff]

[muted pivot]

I mean you never intend on getting shot by a sniper

[river skiff]

I saw people saying that direct dog DMG is meh?

[muted pivot]

Sniper resistance Vs gunner resistance is like covering for disaster Vs covering for regular wear and tear

[main holly]

in this build it is stacked and as it is a defensive build you have the shield and stick out a lot

[muted pivot]

I think you can do silly things with the pounce bleed talent

[river skiff]

That's true

[main holly]

with smart talent picks for the dawg + smart blessings you create a monster xD

dawg kills auric lvl maulers in 2 seconds xD

[muted pivot]

Also kill command micro

[main holly]

maybe 3

[muted pivot]

More pounces is more bleed

[river skiff]

There's way more crap to kill in havoc than in auric tho

[river skiff]

What does it do?

[muted pivot]

Every time dog pounces, everything hit or staggered by the leap gets a lot of bleeda

[main holly]

build is intended to help someone stay alive in damnation to auric ^^ and have the dog deal with shooters as support

[muted pivot]

You can just retarget it straight after the pounce and skip the pin-kill

And that's another shedload of bleeds

[river skiff]

Oh so you aren't actively running it just for your friend?

[main holly]

i play it for funsies and it was quite usefull in havoc tbh

[river skiff]

Hm

[main holly]

though i packed a bit of stuff in there to be able and deal with enemies meself too

[river skiff]

Wanna play sometime

[river skiff]

Not now tho

[main holly]

sure ^^

[river skiff]

My schedule is fucked and I am sleepy

😭

Actually I should go

Goodnight chat

[main holly]

nini ^^

[sturdy linden]

Auric obv

[main holly]

🫂

you need this

[sturdy linden]

Thank you pal

[main holly]

i know i am a mediocre player but i try to improve and learn ^^

weirdest thing is i always require 1-2 games to adapt to a different build xD if i switch from melee scum to melee vet: i die liek a fly the first mission

[main holly]

looks good, can switch out the left keystone pick imho. vultures mark + vultures dodge is enough

[verbal dew]

why like the wind over hive city brawler

hive city brawler is the most free talent there is

20% DR to 20% melee dmg

[manic wolf]

Yeah, HCB is a kinda a must pick

[main holly]

didn't notice was checkign in loading screen

[main holly]

my tripple barrel

i coudl optimize it a bti and grab extra pouches tbh this was just for gettign the double barrel to 20 ^^

[maiden pine]

20?

[main holly]

mastery

[maiden pine]

YA IM ON MY WAY

[main holly]

i got every weapon to mastery 20 in february ^^

so many weapon builds i did were nto fully fledged and just fro 10-15 games

[manic wolf]

Anyone else remember the dark times of praying to Hadron not to brick your roll that you had to wait months to find?

https://tenor.com/view/pepperidge-pepperidge-farm-remembers-remember-gif-15527169458174144495

[calm aurora]

https://tenor.com/view/hide-the-pain-harold-harold-pain-hide-meme-gif-7962146957933466373

[manic wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-spongebob-meme-trauma-imagination-spongebob-gif-23778560

[stone fractal]

God boombringer is so fun in this current modifier

Almost trivializes it

[main holly]

yes

[muted pivot]

Toxbombs also good - but rockets are crazy

[stone fractal]

I usually run tox bombs, but insta-gibbing a dozen crushers/bulwarks instantly is chefs kiss

[muted pivot]

I like the toxbombs more when I'm going heavy into tox synergy or I'm running crate to support sample collector better but I guess blackouts might be even better for that?

[bronze glade]

rockets definitely not overtuned or anything

[muted pivot]

Perish the thought

[calm aurora]

i'd rather have a smyker than a bazooscum during this event tbh

[unique dagger]

chem grenade with the 10 stacks of toxin is probably the single best zone tool we have in the game

I've been having an absolute blast with em

ofc not talking about the event havoc 40 in general

[astral canyon]

eh pocket toxin isnt really needed for chem bomb

it only applies for the initial explosion iirc

[unique dagger]

it isn't but when you are running a low cd stim build you can take it over sample collector and watch as things explode

it is only for the initial explosion yes

[muted pivot]

It already applies 6

[unique dagger]

not immediately

the 10 immediate toxin stacks turns it into a mini rocket too

[muted pivot]

Oh as an alternative to sample collector

Didn't understand your meaning

Cool tech tbh

[unique dagger]

yeah only for when you are running a 1 point stim

[livid raven]

if rocket didn't exist, i would be running those chem grenades so much

[muted pivot]

I don't like the idea of a weak stimm but sounds like a good way to make it work

[unique dagger]

i use it to keep my dependency stacks maxed at all times as quickly as possible to get my scum rolling

also as a fury of the faithful

thanks to chem fortified

%50 instant toughness gain is slept on

[muted pivot]

After a point like is it even worth it to do the animation and stop swinging but idk

I get to roll 4 stacks easily with a half stimm

I have to be precise with timing but it's consistent

[unique dagger]

thanks to this 1 in 5 of my havoc 40 games ends with me taking 0 dmg through the run

[muted pivot]

And once I have it pumped to 4 it's ok if I let it slip before reupping it

I'll have to try it focused on that

[unique dagger]

as it helps me push gunners

[muted pivot]

And the chem bomb crates

I like the idea

[unique dagger]

I run rampage for my power boost to compensate for the lack of a power boost stim

but crates can work too

why not

[muted pivot]

You can spam the toxbomb crates with short stimm

[unique dagger]

ofc but I need a power spike

[compact oyster]

melee chemist scum?

[unique dagger]

I mostly do solos

[calm aurora]

Exactly what the devs intended

What's your build Hamdolsun?

Rampage chem dep?

Shivs?

[unique dagger]

yeah rampage chem dep shivs

I can put together my latest version of the scum build in gameslantern

give me a sec

[calm aurora]

❤️

https://tenor.com/view/so-old-gif-27277116

[cunning hawk]

hows bolt pistol? im trying to figure out what to stick with bone saw

[verbal dew]

it's nice ye

the explody one

and slap on lethal proximity to boost either blinders or rockets

[unique dagger]

@calm aurora my bad I was typing up a novel

in the description

[upbeat gyro]

https://tenor.com/view/twho-hours-later-sp-funny-gif-18933136

[unique dagger]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a13ca9f0-1efa-42cc-b03c-a36c4e02bf07/hamdols-havoc-40-updated-rampage-low-stim-scum

[calm aurora]

I thought the meme was fitting for once

[unique dagger]

refresh for easier read of description

dunno what the formatting was doing

[upbeat gyro]

Appreciate the text, learned things from this (like rampage for scan)

[unique dagger]

no prob, I like being informative down there in case people actually want to use my build for whatever reason

[upbeat gyro]

Gonna try it out, mine is fairly similar except Adrenaline Frenzy and RPG

You feel 25% maniacs is better than 25% Unyielding?

Like hit some breakpoint to 1shot some specials?

[unique dagger]

on the needle pistol right

let me explain

when you max stack something you are not staying on your needle pistol right

you switch to your melee weapon

in the beautiful game of darktide the DoT stacks are influenced by the perks of the weapon you are currently holding

so the moment you max stack a boss and switch to your melee weapon

%25 unyielding on the shivs are gonna come into play anyways

so you won't lose damage on bosses or bulwarks as you want to switch off and hit them with your shivs asap

maniac is there for the initial 2-3 ticks of damage on flamers/muties before you switch off

to hit the 6 stack bodyshot BP for flamers

also easier rager killing

[upbeat gyro]

Ok makes sense

[unique dagger]

This concept is the reason why we are running reload speed on this weapon

it is probably the only weapon in this game I recommend reload speed on

[upbeat gyro]

Yeah mine has 5% reload too and 25% unyielding

[calm aurora]

That's right? And why uncanny instead of precognition? I thought finesse had a better value for the shivs

[unique dagger]

so, precog is a decent blessing and has good finesse scaling but it is not consistent and has an uptime of roughly %30 in a havoc run because of how quickly it drops.
You want consistency for light/heavy spamming through armor and %40 rending does exactly that. It is consistent and won't drop as often, allows you to kill crushers faster too.
Uncanny won't do much for monstrosity killing but makes you kill captains way faster too. Very important to kill rinda rodin fast.

We want the crit chance from riposte to play into our strength (hyper critical being goated as fuck) more often

[calm aurora]

[unique dagger]

btw I forgot this is the 4 stack bp lmao

not 6

6 kills anyways

so it won't matter too much not having maniacs

[upbeat gyro]

Chem nade doing 10 stacks with that talent is 146 dot every 0,35s from Pocket Toxin alone

[unique dagger]

I think it's neat to have it still for faster maniac killin

[upbeat gyro]

Then it ramps from the nade up to 6 too

[unique dagger]

remember that it's additive stacks from pocket toxin

meaning it will be added on top of current toxin stacks

so if you shot a mauler twice before nading

[upbeat gyro]

Yeah instant 10 and then goes to 16

[unique dagger]

it will be 22 stacks

the chem nade doesnt go up to 16 tho

it stays at 10

drops to 6

[upbeat gyro]

Ah ok

[unique dagger]

and stays at 6

[upbeat gyro]

Dont have mod that shows stacks and havent really used chem nades much

[unique dagger]

entering and exiting chem grenade area will give a plus one

[upbeat gyro]

Just checking from the guides

[unique dagger]

so kiting is a good idea sometimes

[unique dagger]

if you want to test it yourself

grab healthbars and debuff indicator

[upbeat gyro]

I believe you, but yeah i need those mods

Noticed same playing psyker for first times in 2 years, not seeing my warpfire stacks sucks

[unique dagger]

it is

I configured mine to only show me DoT stacks and skullcrusher

also brittleness I tihnk

[upbeat gyro]

Giving up RPG just feels bit wrong, but i have feeling im gonna get tired of it playing this current event anyway

Way too much RPG spam

[limber cradle]

I unironically prefer black outs tbh

[unique dagger]

the reason why I prefer chem nades over rpg on havoc 40s with this setup is the fact that chem grenade with instant 10 stacks can basically do the same thing rocket does to anything below a mauler immediately

so it becomes a mini rocket and a zoning tool

shiv builds struggle with horde density

[unique dagger]

so having a zoning tool is very useful

[upbeat gyro]

Hmm maybe i dont have it just configured

[limber cradle]

We run almost the same build actually

I don't run pick tho

[unique dagger]

I understand

its an option to to for 4 stacks on chem dep instad of pick

but infinite ammo needle pistol is ridiculously overpowerd

[limber cradle]

Ik

I don't run needler tbh

[upbeat gyro]

Gonna login and get that debuff going

[unique dagger]

with other weapons you can drop pickpocket

like agripinaa

or pistols

[limber cradle]

I run .45s for style

Aye, yeah

[upbeat gyro]

Forgot to also set blitz visible in dmg mod

Now i can just guess what % RPG does in the event

[unique dagger]

I still take it for conveniences sake, fuck ever needing ammo

[upbeat gyro]

Probably lots of it

[limber cradle]

I like your curio set up tbh

[unique dagger]

Let me give you a couple random examples from my games with this build (scoreboards)

[limber cradle]

Nah I totally get it

It's an ego thing for me tbh

[unique dagger]

I grabbed the first 4 scoreboards

just to give you a pool

[limber cradle]

Christ

[compact oyster]

thats all needle pistol DOT?

[unique dagger]

chem grenade rampage coated weaponry and needle pistol

[compact oyster]

grut me

[unique dagger]

keep in mind kejetok is one of the best players in this game and I have 2x his damage because he's not on scum

think about how broken scum is

[limber cradle]

Why is your stimm like that?

[limber cradle]

Psyker 2

[limber cradle]

I don't think scum is gonna see nerfs either, same way psyker doesn't

Most scum players being floor tanks like most psykers

[upbeat gyro]

For whatever reason, debuff mod isnt working for me

[compact oyster]

no sample collector

[upbeat gyro]

Even though i have it setup

[unique dagger]

I don't have sample collector so I need a low cd stim
Since my stim comes back every 30 seconds TOTAL (including stim effect timer) I'll always have maxed chem dependancy
And I use the stim after max dependency for sustaining my toughness in risky dives

[compact oyster]

i sea

[limber cradle]

I gotcha

[compact oyster]

wait

[compact oyster]

why do you only have 1 stim point

[upbeat gyro]

Okay what the hell? The moment i go test it, it works for first time

[compact oyster]

thas kinda silly

[limber cradle]

Thank you

I'm a sucker for max juice stimms ngl

[unique dagger]

You need to refresh psykhanium enemies by deleting them once

if mods are having a problem

use kill all enemies button on creature spawner

[upbeat gyro]

Creature Spawner is another mod i need

[unique dagger]

completely fair, orjan plays with a juiced stim unlike me so he has two power spikes.
its a different playstyle to mine

That means the grenades are weaker so he takes rocket instead

[limber cradle]

Yeah, needs no buff

Rocket and samp collector

Vs pool and chem bonus

[unique dagger]

basically yes

[limber cradle]

Rocket is so fucking goofy

[unique dagger]

rocket is def goated too

[compact oyster]

delete everything in that general direction

[unique dagger]

dont go hyper critical and hyper violence at the same time broski

[upbeat gyro]

Went to check my build, only difference is Hyper-Violence instead of the Cleave one

[unique dagger]

hyper critical procs remove hyper violence stacking

[upbeat gyro]

This is Dclaw though

[unique dagger]

as it drops it before timer can refresh

[limber cradle]

I'll try some of this later tho, ty. Assuming I don't just pass out after work again anyway.

[compact oyster]

hyper crit is instakill damage so you wont have overkill damage for hyper violence

[upbeat gyro]

Heard lots of mixed info on mixing HV and HC

[unique dagger]

My suggestion to you would be to commit to one

[upbeat gyro]

In the end most have recommended running both if got the talent points, even though they overlap in some situations unfavourably

[unique dagger]

If you are planning on doing solos or duos hyper violence is pretty nice as you get to fight the main pool of enemies yourself for faster resets

but if you want consistency hyper violence is goated

critical is a must for shivs violence is better for something like a combat axe

[upbeat gyro]

How necessary is this for Shivs?

[unique dagger]

not necessary but pretty good as hyper critical procs work on cleaved enemies

meaning you can horde clear even when rampage is down and clear better when its up

I am a big fan of it but I see people dropping it sometimes

up to you really

[upbeat gyro]

Apparently i have had Creature Spawner back in the day

[unique dagger]

anyways enough talk I'll go carry some people

good luck on your scums lads

[upbeat gyro]

Yeah thanks for the detailed write up again, gonna make me try shivs once more

Hmm wonder if should switch that 5% crit to Uniyelding

[compact oyster]

you should

[upbeat gyro]

Switched then ✅

[calm aurora]

Wait, what??

You can proce HC on multiple ennemies?

[unreal stirrup]

hypercrit work per swing

same for hyper violence

[mighty belfry]

This is exactly why hv and hc together is actually pretty good

[manic wolf]

I'm still not convinced to actually do so though 😄

[calm aurora]

My brain did not compute per swing, cleave and hypercritical

[calm aurora]

@low harbor made a quite long essay about why hc + hv anti synergy is a bit overblown

[manic wolf]

Its been covered in here about 500 times of late 😄

[unreal stirrup]

does hc proc first or hv

i know you can hit some bp with hv proc on previous hit then hc proc on the nextr

[mighty belfry]

Hyperviolence will proc first if you were already gonna kill something with a crit in one shot

If you cleave and the distribution lowers damage enough that it won't one shot the next thing, hypercrit kicks in to force the one shot in the same swing

[calm aurora]

And if you use BM, HC proces after the fourth target?

[manic wolf]

If you do enough damage to proc it, yus

[calm aurora]

Taxe is really eating good

[cunning hawk]

dumb question, i had a stimm box build I was trying out and I couldnt use my stimm pack while the box is on CD, is that noraml or is there some talent im missing? i dont see where it says the stimm would be on CD

[unique spire]

The box uses the stimm automatically

If the stimm is on cooldown you can still place the stimmpack

[mighty belfry]

Even better

Tac axe has a cleave cap, regardless of if you use BM or not.

It will always stop doing damage after a certain amount of enemies.

Hyperviolence ignores that cap since it's a flat damage value applied to that attack from the previous attack's overkill

Meaning, if you proc BM and have enough overkill, you can kill past the cap, and if you have hypercrit on top of that, the ability to kill beyond that cap is more consistent.

Assuming you are hitting a crit. Which, it's a tac axe. It will very often crit.

That being said, this synergy is mostly impactful when you start off an engagement, since once you get enough overkill, hypercrit will stop proccing.

But its nice to have both for rampage downtime too.

Or if you're running crate and you wanna beef up your horde clear as much as you can with strength stimms

Da more u no

[cunning hawk]

ohh didnt know that, soi get benefit from both then right?

[unique spire]

Yeah

I think

It helps stacking that one drug use perk from the right side of the tree

[upbeat gyro]

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/dev-blog-ogryn-pack-master/119112

[livid raven]

aw hell no

[manic wolf]

Oh yay, more armour

Just what we needed

Only now its on an enemy that will probably be hella buggy on its launch

[livid raven]

it's a monstrosity too

[manic wolf]

Wait wut

[livid raven]

i mean, the packmaster

[manic wolf]

I thought he was a new Ogryn enemy?

[livid raven]

lemme just find it

[lost ravine]

yeah but he is a boss encounter

[manic wolf]

Well then.. this should be wild

[manic wolf]

Ok then

https://tenor.com/view/hmm-ok-okay-then-gif-24387952

[livid raven]

it willl be probably ballblasting stupid like release plasma gunner

one way or another

[manic wolf]

Aye.. im dubious

[livid raven]

Also i wonder about the armored dog

[bronze glade]

yay more dogs in the game

[livid raven]

like, a dog dies in one hit normally anyway

[bronze glade]

20 hp lost to corruption per instapounce

[livid raven]

yeah that's very stupid

it shouldn't apply corruption instantly

also it's only in the boss encounter so

they should add them to the dogwawe mutator too tho

[marble seal]

Excited for this but in a boss fight format

[manic wolf]

Is it gonna have a set number of dogs with it when it spawns or is it going to conjure them out of its ass mid-fight is what i wanna know

[bronze glade]

if it's the latter

i'll reinstall the game

[upbeat gyro]

https://miniset.net/files/set/gw-99590102105-0.jpg

[upbeat gyro]

Reads there you have to down the monstrosity or it will keep spawning more dogs

https://x.com/Darktide40K/status/2029995826508910720

Warhammer 40K: Darktide (@Darktide40K)

There's no escaping. There's no hiding.

The Ogryn Pack Master and his Armoured Pox Hounds are coming to Darktide. Prepare to be hunted down.

Watch the teaser and click the link in the comments to read the dev blog where we give you a taste of what the two new enemies will bring

X · Mar 6, 2026, 7:01 PM

Vid there

[low harbor]

cool boss tbh

[manic wolf]

Great, truly wonderful, now we can get a dog modifier on top of our dog modifier

[warped dagger]

Hey guys, which gun is viable for havoc 40 ranged build?

[verbal dew]

I've only seen DAPs

[ancient hedge]

can hivescum deal with ogryns

and bosses well

[verbal dew]

yes

tho my havoc build deals with bosses better than ogryns

[woeful hill]

Just about all of them work very well

depends on what you are going for

[limber cradle]

So is new boss?

[livid raven]

Ye

[limber cradle]

Neat

Needed one of those

[warped dagger]

Killing crusher waves

[limber cradle]

Don't shoot crushers

You're playing hive scum

Shoot a rocket if they're a problem

[manic wolf]

Or just smash them in the mouth ganger style like

[woeful hill]

Common practice is to not shoot crushers

but if you wanted to use needler

thats the best weapon for it

[manic wolf]

Its very unsatisfying though

It wont stroke the inner Ork brain, like at all

[warped dagger]

So melee/rpg them?

[astral canyon]

needler being the one exception

[tender grail]

I’m still going to light every crusher up, what else are these free desperado bullets for

[unique dagger]

you can't tell me what to do, watch me shoot this crusher to death with my achyls stubber

[woeful hill]

https://tenor.com/view/dogdiesamengodbless-gif-23866738

[unique dagger]

dink dink dink dink dink dink dink dink dink dink dink dink dink dink dink dink dink dink dink dink dink dink dink dink dink dink dink dink dink dink

[calm aurora]

Helbore is the exception though

[lost ravine]

what about plasma

(vile creation)

[mighty belfry]

Nah

Very inefficient for crushers

[lost ravine]

oh ok

[low harbor]

4 headshots in auric, 6 in h40
which is far too much ammo cost to kill a singular enemy in any mode for plasma

[lunar hamlet]

Hey can u get higher curioes than 410

[neat delta]

420 I think??

[lost ravine]

430

[unkempt salmon]

Pardon me. Can I cheese Clinical Assassin by magdumping Uzis into a BoN's back?

[lost ravine]

maybe

but realistically the last stim-flavored penance will be heavy kills

[sturdy linden]

did it with taxe myself

[bronze glade]

taxe and hsword are good candidates

[unkempt salmon]

Yeah I just realized I'm overthinking the penance and I can just lightspam hordes with the stim active, dunno why I thought I needed ranged weakspots specifically lol

[blissful gull]

can you animation cancel the stim animation so it goes quicker?

[low harbor]

Yes

Swap weapon as soon as it’s injected

[unkempt salmon]

Am I missing something or does the special stim just not come out when it's supposed to?

[obsidian cipher]

What are the chances FS fixes blackout not working with hypercritical?

[woeful hill]

What interaction is this?

[obsidian cipher]

if you kill something with hypercritical it doesnt count towards the 20 kills

[woeful hill]

I see

[obsidian cipher]

extremely annoying

At least thats what happens in solo play, maybe it works in a real match? copium

sometimes it counts sometimes it doesnt idk why

[livid raven]

Wasn't that fixed shortly after

[obsidian cipher]

They fixed it with Precision Violence

[upbeat pendant]

finally got true survivor as hive scum in a pub

is catachan mk6 the best melee to bring with a ranged build? its been working better than the shivs from my experience, or is there another melee wep to try

[livid raven]

Shivs

or knife

[mighty belfry]

Both are really good but, personally, if it's ranged build I'd go knife

Knife mobility is just nuts. Shivs are close but sprint tech on knife just makes it next level with all of Scum's dodge stuff

Really good to close distance.

Honestly I've been running knife more than shiv even for rampage so I may be biased.

[unkempt salmon]

Taking a break from Scum after I finish his penances I think

I dislike dying to overheads ten feet away from me

[dark moon]

i had such a great team

[upbeat gyro]

Apparently its not luck i need, but skill. Failed several Havoc 25s in row with this build 😄

Switched to arbi for more tankyness, and went even worse, as then we lacked damage and it was that heinous ritual havoc modifier and we couldnt stop em in time. Teams were terrible too though, we had ritual going and then one guy goes to wake up regular DH on top near it

But the playstyle is addicting, so ill keep practicing when i get some time for DT

Thinking though i might try switching RPG to chemnade, as when i was lastone alive, RPG wouldnt help clutch and clear the area for revives more than for second or two which wasnt enough

Chemnade might make the whole area "sanitised" after a while if kiting around it

[livid raven]

i mean

i don't think you should personally plan your gameplay around being the last one alive

[upbeat gyro]

These teams though, we barely move in 50m from intro area and 1-2 are already down with barely first wave of regular horde coming in

Let alone what happens when monstrosity + twins spawn at once, then its just 1-2 of us alive within 30s

Gotta give credit to the team though we kept trying despite failing, 4 times in row

Starting to think many of the havoc rank 25-30 are people who are realistically about havoc 15 capable but been carried by good teams few times that high