hivescum-class

[lost token]

I came prepared at least and ration travel snacks well enough so np.

[brave beacon]

im currently bouncing back and forth between this here2 builds what yalls thoughts?

[spiral horizon]

public bathrooms are always a necessary evil

nobody ever wants to actually use one

[lost token]

Well if you're my friend you'll have to get used to the gift of presence lol.

I don't often have gift money.

[charred bronze]

for damage output? Not really.

[lost token]

As long as i never have to experience a renaissance festival outdoor tent again idc much.

[lost token]

I travel with wipes and disinfectant often. I want zero problems if i have to do it myself. Nooope

[manic wolf]

Engage hovermode

[lost token]

All I'm saying is is that bidets are an actual good thing and ought to be available within whatever sustainable range and their adjacents.

The swag is right there. Please ffs stop with the paper 😭

[manic wolf]

🤨

Bidet?

Thats a bit posh innit?

I'd wipe my arse with the nearest leaf it if came to it at a festival

[lost token]

Oh no at a festival like that it's a wash.

Like

[high gull]

People some nasty asses

[lost token]

I get it. Heehee cosppay we're in olden times or whatever

[high gull]

That dry toilet paper shit for the birds

[lost token]

But what i saw? No.

I despise nurgle and his inclinations.

[wind crane]

vraks feels much better than autopistols damn

it like has the ttk of autopistols but more accuracy

[manic wolf]

Where'd you go where it was that horrendous?

[wind crane]

and more rending? idk

[lost token]

Fuck a church and/or an imperium. It's time for that cleansing flame. Get that nasty mfker out of here.

I'll just be bad bitch blade and handle it myself. Absolutely NOT lmao

[manic wolf]

Brother you'll do anything to clean your ass if supplies are thin on the ground, let me tell you

[broken bear]

have you heard of a water bottle

like...

or a pack of wet wipes

do yall not bring a small bag

nasty fuckin hell

[high gull]

Bro we're men

Wrong ping

But yeh

We men bruh

[manic wolf]

..

[high gull]

We don't have purses and shit

[broken bear]

fucking melk had a +3 curios

[manic wolf]

Hence, the nearest plant

[broken bear]

i gambled 6k melk bucks

fml

[lost token]

Some renaissance festival years ago. I think there was some kind of really unfortunate accident that just didn't get cleared up and it was the only porta potty tent thing available.

I've had to sneak my way through plenty in my lifetime. Ain't never stepped so delicately as i did then.

[high gull]

Buddy gonna wipe his ass with poison ivy

It's gonna be over

[broken bear]

wait u go to ren faires too???

[high gull]

Oh lord

[elfin jay]

no enemies?

[high gull]

They're bonding

[manic wolf]

Oh yeah, thats fair, it do be rough when the portable shitter is grubby

[lost token]

I like going out wherever. Shows, conventions if I'm interested, clubs, ballrooms, etc.

[elfin jay]

https://tenor.com/view/megamind-gif-26070434

[broken bear]

fun

last ren faire i went to was in august

in some east butt fuck part of maine

[lost token]

I was upset i didn't dress up. I wouldn't have had much but i can get creative with some "thief" setup.

There were some dudes that i guess are regulars and they had some really solidly made leathers on. I was healthily jealous.

[spiral horizon]

I like going to industrial revolution faires, they make you work in a ceramics factory and give you silica lung

it's very immersive

[broken bear]

they prolly bought it there highk

[manic wolf]

I get that for free at work anyway, no need to pay for it

[broken bear]

you look like you have abestos in your lungs old man

[spiral horizon]

abestos? nah
acrylic? yeah most likely

[manic wolf]

Mmm, microplastics

[high gull]

Me on my way as the factory boss to tell the workers they're getting a .01 raise while working in the worst conditions known to man

https://tenor.com/view/clogging-blue-shirt-blue-shirt-guy-dancing-click-clack-gif-26149861

[thin crag]

the enhanced penance is so annoying

[lost token]

Didn't seem like anything the leatherworkers had on display. They straight up looked like some kind of assassins' guild crew and i was there for it.

One of them caught me looking more and even hit a clean pose or two.

[broken bear]

lemme [redacted] the acrylic [redacted] ya

[spiral horizon]

I don't know how to interpret this at all

[thin crag]

but i want the steel skull so bad

[broken bear]

HELP 😭

i just get lass while i stand awkwardly until my friend realizes

[lost token]

Only thing I'd be worried about is like the drag on any chains and tassles I'd wear. Maybe a shadow dancer arrangement would be cool but I'd need to learn body paint.

[broken bear]

cmere silver fox

[manic wolf]

Subtle

[lost token]

I was healthily jealous as i said. If I knew what to expect, i probably could have set up something somewhat similar with my own flare.

As long as it's actually physically comfortable to move around a lot, i don't mind tighter fits unless it's hugging my guts. I like eating so...yeah fuck that

[main wagon]

The subtlety of a detonated land mine

[lost token]

Some studded accessories, ripped mesh sleeves and modded pantyhose for more mesh and some of my leathers and i could pull it off.

[charred bronze]

I am now accustomed to power washing my butthole with a bidet. I miss it even using decent hotel bathrooms. Even the 'flushable' wipes are no match for the sparkling, glorious cleanliness one can obtain from a good bidet.

[high gull]

Such is life in the Vietnamese wilderness

[spiral horizon]

I'd hit up a ren faire just so I can rock a feathered hat and shoulder cape

[lost token]

If i had the money I'd commission some leatherworkers some friends frequent for some new spiked clothes with real metal.

[high gull]

FUCKIN BARD

GET HIM

[manic wolf]

If you need it that badly, go outside an use the garden hose

[lost token]

Bard great. Look bad, be great. Ez.

[spiral horizon]

https://youtube.com/shorts/vEe473rI5ks I'm just saying, I'd rock it

[high gull]

I'ma be real I don't think I could do a ren fair

[lost token]

And I can dance too? Some marginal experience with drums? Ez.

[manic wolf]

Int the medieval drip tooth decay and dying before 30? 😄

[lost token]

My singing voice is dogshit though.

[manic wolf]

You can improve it if you're willing to practice

[lost token]

Well sort of. I'd need to practice again but i don't want to. Still working on scream vocals and all that.

And that shit is hard to get just right for where my range is rn.

[flint veldt]

What's the difference between the needler MK2 and MK4 and which is better?

[spiral horizon]

omw to fight the black death by doing a series of preventative measures that make it worse, actually

[high gull]

Do you know how fucking mad I'd be in the afterlife knowing I died because some guy stabbed me while I was processing getting slapped by a fucking cape

[charred bronze]

insufficiently concentrated. lacking in pressure. cold. I'm a connoiseur of bathroom decadence now.

[lost token]

I definitely need the plug on some dope blackout stage props for myself. Preferably like a capsule that busts for an inky black finish.

[spiral horizon]

once again fashion is the endgame

[lost token]

Make it look like i have black ichor for blood.

[manic wolf]

Insufficiently concentrated? Are you sure?

[charred bronze]

certain.

[manic wolf]

You know garden hose nozzles are adjustable right?

[lost token]

Shrimply look to other parts of the world beyond europe. Ez.

[manic wolf]

Isnt that just the same thing but with a greater risk of dying to a bear or summat?

[high gull]

@broken bear Aye musty

Whatchu doin

[charred bronze]

I do. I have one of those fancy shits with the lever and 90 settings. Nonetheless, the exquisite stream of a bidet is unmatched by proletarian garden implements.

[spiral horizon]

omw to use the local fire hydrant

[lost token]

Depends on where one is even bothering to look ig. I'd need to brush up on my history but there's plenty more inspiration for cool old timey whatever around that period beyond europe that I'd pull off in a heartbeat.

[manic wolf]

Nah fam, plug in the pressure washer and shoot your balls all the way into your own ass

[lost token]

And older periods too.

I still want to pull off a sick as fuck nubian mercenary fit.

[charred bronze]

it's surprisingly hard to find cheap/readily made stuff from other cultures during the renaissance

[manic wolf]

There is no cultural world beyond Europe

[charred bronze]

wanted to do a greek/ottoman thing once, and decent stuff was gonna be very expensive.

[manic wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/dritan-dritan-alsela-coffee-coffeelover-barista-gif-13990430

[lost token]

Me when I'm voraciously wrong.

Into the sole beating pits

Farewell

[manic wolf]

Its a joke

[lost token]

Which is why i said into the sole beating pits.

You will never walk again. Farewell

[manic wolf]

Dont threaten me with a good time

[lost token]

Hm.

Alright, guess it's to the boat with the cut out hole and milk and honey.

It'll be terrible.

[manic wolf]

Christ, thats a proper historical nasty

[lost token]

Yeah. Had to crank it up a bit.

[manic wolf]

You win this round ¬.¬

[lost token]

You were having too much fun

I had to

[manic wolf]

Omw to die from insect bites and worms then I guess

[lost token]

Gotta look in the right spots ig. I have a hard time finding things but that's mostly because I'm trying to be a bit more precise with period piece costumes. Takes ages in that department to really narrow things down.

[spiral horizon]

DO IT

[lost token]

Riiiip.

If I'm feeling generous you can catch a few arrows maybe. This was just supposed to a standard highway robbery

[spiral horizon]

yeah it's surprisingly not easy, even though importing from Turkey right now is literally dirt cheap

[lost token]

...i kind of want the boat back too. That's a boat.

Hm...

[manic wolf]

Well too bad, you cant have it, thats my ride to the afterlife

[lost token]

ALRIGHT NEW PLAN!

Back to basics: quartering.

[manic wolf]

Please use the arrows to set it on fire too, K, thanks 😄

[lost token]

🧠

[lost token]

Oh nah, these the tree frog tip. Paralysis for you.

:^)

[manic wolf]

Acting like im not already two beers away from paralysis 😄

[main wagon]

Total War Warhammer 40k revealed at game awards. That looks cool

[lost token]

I can't follow you into the depths of the hop world. Forever, i can appreciate the journey from afar.

It's spirits, gin and whatever else i decide to mix together.

[broken bear]

@high gull melee scum fucks

it makes me wet this is great

[manic wolf]

Do love a nice bottle of gin, but unfortunately it tends not to last very long, so I refrain from buying it unless its a special occasion

[lost token]

Hype

[broken bear]

tequila my beloved

im a total lightweight

<3 psych meds

[limber cradle]

Melee scum is very fun and ime about as stupid as gun scum

[lost token]

Tequila is great for it then

[manic wolf]

Yeah.. only you have to actually play the game

[lost token]

I don't drink nearly as much as spme of my peers but can put away enough.

[limber cradle]

I mean

I dodge and click equal amounts

Personally anyway

[manic wolf]

You sure bout that 😄

[lost token]

Usually some variety of shots (3~6), chaser beer (1-2), a mule or something like that (1-2)

[woeful hill]

@plucky nymph

like popcorn

[high gull]

Can you not be yourself

It makes me uncomfortable

[main wagon]

PODRACER GAME CONFIRMED

[lost token]

I finished all my alcohol maybe like. At about 5 am on a roof somewhere before sleeping and getting on this vehicle taking me home.

[plucky nymph]

BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRT

[manic wolf]

Excuses excuses 😄

[lost token]

...ugh I'm not looking forward to my ass bone hurting from sitting this long.

[spiral horizon]

caught between dunking on Argus or dunking on Leux

truly a conundrum I cannot solve

[manic wolf]

[lost token]

Oh if I'm ever faded as shit in these chats you'll know.

[manic wolf]

Argus

Its much easier 😄

[broken bear]

dunk on me dad-

[woeful hill]

my frames

dropped for like half a second

[high gull]

Plank

[manic wolf]

Hun boutta get hisself into trouble

[high gull]

Listen

[spiral horizon]

why must you

[broken bear]

im cackling

[high gull]

https://tenor.com/view/beating-cristi-memri-gif-25663599

[broken bear]

PLEASE?

[high gull]

I've had enough

[lost token]

I'm going to invade your dreams and throw you into ball pits filled with hateful scorpions.

[high gull]

I'm going home

[manic wolf]

If this is gonna continue I need another beer

[broken bear]

oh god i need an inahler

[spiral horizon]

1950s teachers when they see a kid using their left hand for literally anything

[broken bear]

im wheezing

[high gull]

There's only one beer left

https://tenor.com/view/mf-doom-doom-mf-gif-5113505

[lost token]

WAWAWAAAWAAAAA

[broken bear]

and i spat in it

[lost token]

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

WAAAAAAAAA

[manic wolf]

Based, but no, there is two

Fuck

There is two left

[lost token]

WAAAAAAAAA

[high gull]

Bro I use to go to a catholic school right

[main wagon]

Lore accurate scum vox

[spiral horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-gif-11084191503905344094

[high gull]

And the shit they told me of how teachers use to be back in the day

[lost token]

Accordion is in my whiskey stakeout playlist

[high gull]

Mfs would throw chairs and books at students

[broken bear]

qwincan plz im crying

this is amazin

[manic wolf]

If you're gonna spit on it, at least give it a polish afterwards yeah?

[spiral horizon]

QWINCAN???

[high gull]

qwincan

Is that a type of bird?

[broken bear]

imonly minorly ddwdunkmwd

eyes

just wpkwe ura type of bitch

[high gull]

Somebody get this mf some cold water and a tv remove

[spiral horizon]

https://tenor.com/view/skinenr-gif-20761908

[lost token]

You ever see that spider man movie with all them boys it? Garfield, McGuire and uh...Holland? Forgot that dude's name.

[high gull]

The multiverse one?

[broken bear]

i dont know if ur an adult so

im not commenting

[lost token]

Live action.

[high gull]

Oh nah

[lost token]

But yeah another verse film

Anyway

[broken bear]

i bully incan cuz hes old

[manic wolf]

Lmao, Im in my early 30s lass

[spice mural]

Hive scum is the only one whose ability penances doesn’t require a certain difficulty setting. Huh.

[broken bear]

ezpz

[high gull]

Last movie I saw was happy gillmore 2

[spiral horizon]

oh the fuckin "far from home" or w/e right?

[high gull]

[broken bear]

imma restrain myself so incan doesnt have to put me in silent treatment

[spiral horizon]

and it brought back all the live action fellas yea

[lost token]

Willem Daffoe tries pissing off tom holland spiderman after killing his aunt right.

[high gull]

Ahh

[manic wolf]

I dont know what any of that sentence means 😄

[lost token]

Holland picks up his glider ready to kill him

[manic wolf]

Woah

What the fuck was that

[high gull]

The Willem Daffoe blunt rotation videos really are a national treasure.

[lost token]

@high gull i shit you not it was just scene from being in high school with kids deadass ready to throw chairs and beat each other with desks lmao

[manic wolf]

Brings back memories of school that does

[lost token]

I fell out laughing.

[high gull]

I'm glad I never went back to that shit and went back to co-ed

Cause a all guys school is fooken hell

[thin crag]

finally unlocked this, now my dreams of being a cyborg from wild wild west (1999) is complete

[high gull]

If the teachers ain't beating your ass

[broken bear]

someone delete ts

[high gull]

The students fighting in the hallway

[broken bear]

this horrifies me

[high gull]

It was like prison

[lost token]

The moment that man picked up that glider i could hear the forces squeaking.

Lol

[spice mural]

The one with the emperor meme face is superior.

[broken bear]

shad im glad u like it but like

😭 😭

[high gull]

Was gonna say choptop from TCM

[spice mural]

Though I went with the tattoo that has a lion on it because lions are my favorite animal.

[high gull]

https://tenor.com/view/the-texas-chainsaw-massacre-tcm-texas-chainsaw-chop-top-sawyer-chop-top-gif-8229069916737953211

[manic wolf]

Isnt it normal for your school to have an organized fight club?

[thin crag]

https://tenor.com/view/smiling-friends-psychicpebbles-pim-smiling-friends-pim-mr-boss-gif-1373626090718171797

[high gull]

IN THE HALLS THO

[lost token]

And yeah. There's plenty to be said about schools functioning like.prison by actual design depending on where you look.

Plenty of schools within reach designed precisely like prisons. Actual madness.

[high gull]

Buddy got his head gashed open cause his opponent decided today was the day he used his metal watch as brass knuckles

[thin crag]

it’s warhammer we ain’t supposed to be pretty, only pretty ugly

[lost token]

Behold.

[spice mural]

Counter point. The Escher gang.

[broken bear]

nah, serve cunt while killing cultists

[high gull]

Glad I got out that shit

[manic wolf]

Lmao, had a similar one back int day where someone got a split drainpipe launched at their head. Kids are not nice to one another

[high gull]

She bount the only one

[lost token]

Woah woah woah woah woah woah wait a fucking minute

[thin crag]

i love a woman who looks like a man

[broken bear]

uhm...

[manic wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/call-out-shout-out-ken-jeong-gif-12737553231884046774

(sorry, had to be done)

[broken bear]

wait ngl

[thin crag]

[broken bear]

fatshark fucks up the dimorphic traits rlly badly

my god

[lost token]

That entire spread of women is degrees of fine.

[high gull]

https://tenor.com/view/snusnu-futurama-fry-death-death-by-snusnu-gif-16228376

[manic wolf]

I do wish Darktide had a little more booba in it

[manic wolf]

Its only fitting with the 40k background

[broken bear]

i wish it had colored bras

this grey rag is horrific

[high gull]

Hwat in the Floridian meth zombie is that....

[manic wolf]

Would tbh, Im a sucker for grubby birds

[thin crag]

good ole crystal, just methin round’

[lost token]

Hm. Very well.

[broken bear]

well uh

time to die my hair purple again

[high gull]

Oh lord

[broken bear]

dye*

[manic wolf]

🤨

[broken bear]

KIDDING

ngl

[broken bear]

i could actually cosplay this scum

😭 😭

[manic wolf]

Thats a good thing...

[broken bear]

hell ill even get the tats.

[high gull]

She look like the type to be like

[lost token]

Shock whip...?

[manic wolf]

The "I might stab you in your sleep" is a hot look

[high gull]

"My boyfriend said he didn't want pickles on his burger"

[broken bear]

where is this

[thin crag]

are you saying you have a naturally methed strung out look?

[high gull]

Then beat the cashier's ass

[manic wolf]

Yeah, where is that? I want one

[broken bear]

no im saying i look like a man

[broken bear]

[lost token]

In the image higher up. I guess a leader uses it or something

[thin crag]

[broken bear]

tho most 6'1" chicks get told that ngl

[manic wolf]

That haircut is epic ngl

[high gull]

I dunno mang

[broken bear]

argus i got a song for u

[high gull]

I know a chick 6'3 and she look fire

[thin crag]

she got that pikman haircut

[high gull]

She a family friend tho

Soooo I aaaaain't gonna try

[broken bear]

whats her number

[high gull]

Fuck if I know

[manic wolf]

Darksouls players love tall girls... for reasons 😄

[lost token]

I just love women period. /shrug

[broken bear]

get me in contact

[high gull]

I'm spiteful

[broken bear]

lowk same but like i say i like men still

[high gull]

If I can't get it

No one can

[lost token]

Well, just about everyone in whatever shape.

[broken bear]

altho my former ra lowk interested

[broken bear]

real lowk

[spice mural]

Th is is a recent model btw.

[broken bear]

long as someone hot idc

[manic wolf]

Ima need an interpreter for this

[lost token]

When they aren't busy talking their way out of my presence they can be cool too. There was a dude in a subway i had half a mind to talk to but stops are stops.

[spice mural]

Here’s the main enforcer of house Escher. Her name is Athera.

So it’s completely possible to have some pretty gangers and be lore friendly. :0

[high gull]

She thottarella on it long style and the hot slice she interested in might be of particular interest.

[manic wolf]

That is not helping, sir

[high gull]

I know but I had to make some shit up on the fly.

[spice mural]

I guarantee you they’ll probably add some necromunda cosmetics for the hive scum.

[manic wolf]

One can only hope

[high gull]

As it stands rn

[lost token]

RA's are like dorm hall monitors to be reductive

[broken bear]

wtf is a necromunda

[high gull]

We ain't getting shit

[broken bear]

yea but she was cool and gave me liquor underage

[manic wolf]

Let em cook

[high gull]

Imagine if Chicago was a planet

[lost token]

First time i ever considered heels.

[spice mural]

We already got necromunda themed skins before.

[broken bear]

who let this fuckin happen

[spice mural]

So I wouldn’t be surprised.

[high gull]

Oh you didn't see the unreleased enforcer fits huh?

[manic wolf]

As if you werent gonna just shoplift it if they didnt 😏

[spice mural]

It’s another miniatures game where instead of playing armies you play as various gangs on the huge city.

[high gull]

They're releasing more, except with new color schemes

[broken bear]

argus run a game you fuck

[broken bear]

no tf

i dont steal

it hurts my pride to steal

[high gull]

I'm busy having a existencial crisis.

Lee mee alon

[manic wolf]

Not a fan of the five finger discount?

[broken bear]

like why would i insult myself by being broke

[manic wolf]

Not a true Scummer

[broken bear]

no i like drugs instead

[high gull]

I mean that forehead is dastardly so idk....

[spice mural]

Am I the only one that’s painted GW models here? Damn. XD

[manic wolf]

Well, you can lift those too, you just gotta be harder

[broken bear]

oh shut the fuck up you oompa loompa bitch

[high gull]

I have not the time nor patience for that

[high gull]

Loooove you lewbert

@spiral horizon

[broken bear]

roach tongue asshole

[manic wolf]

What is FS code? I wanna (get carried) kill some heretic

[lost token]

I've had bosses get mad at me for being friendly to some guys that pulled up masked up.

Lmao

[high gull]

Oh nah playing outside the US is horrible for my mental health

I could never

But I respect the offer.

[broken bear]

im glad i work in an office now

[manic wolf]

I was gonna join your shidd severs, but ok 😄

[lost token]

They were harmless lol.

[vale remnant]

delicious boss damage

[high gull]

That naaaame

My nostalgiaaaa

[lost token]

All the other thieves I just happen to not notice. :^)

[vale remnant]

[manic wolf]

I do not envy you, thats like worst case scenario

[broken bear]

still im glad to work in a office

[high gull]

I mean she use to being subservient

So it ain't all bad

[broken bear]

AC, i fuck around 90% of the time, and i get to make really cool shit

[high gull]

[broken bear]

engineering is fun (sometimes)

[manic wolf]

No underlying humor on that one at all 😄

[lost token]

I can't do office politics. I hate that shit.

[broken bear]

when the old program manager isnt annoying me

[broken bear]

OH

WOW

FUCK YOU

[spiral horizon]

pickles are amazing and I will not accept any differing opinion

[broken bear]

BITCH ASS FUCK NFWAIEONBUY

NISDNJIFAUIO

[high gull]

https://tenor.com/view/spit-take-laughing-laugh-gif-13945267

[broken bear]

incan can i say it

[spiral horizon]

....say what?

[manic wolf]

Thats fair. Though working with people? Nah fuck that, leave me alone 😄

[high gull]

I think the biggest sin for burgers is not having cheese on them

[spiral horizon]

actually you know what no, if you have to ask I'm guessing you shouldn't say it

[high gull]

You a special kinda evil to eat a burger with no cheese

[spiral horizon]

TRU

[broken bear]

check vins serv

[broken bear]

i get to tell ppl wtf to do

[manic wolf]

Correct. And tommora I will drink a glass of pickle water to cure my hangover

[lost token]

It's me

"They're going to need this to be redone. They can't eat pickles. Thank you so much ♡"

[broken bear]

argus i hope you get rabies

[manic wolf]

Yeah yeah, you're just tryina cover for what Argus just said 😄

[high gull]

I can't

[vale remnant]

Man I was so close to a perfect game too, fucking bitchass bursters

[broken bear]

you fuck rabbit faced runt

[high gull]

Immune system been solid since I was a youngin

Now you on the other hand

[lost token]

Fuck rabbit faced runt

[high gull]

Fuggen

[broken bear]

argus ur such a whore

fuck u

[high gull]

ARRRRGH matey

[lost token]

Hm...I'm gonna hold on to that

[high gull]

You remember that huh

[manic wolf]

Alright Blackbeard, the tides not in yet 😄

[broken bear]

argus least i can afford the dentist you broke bitch

[lost token]

It's a good backpocket insult if i run out of one.

[high gull]

I can too fuck you mean

I dead ass paid like 6 bands for braces

[manic wolf]

You have to pay for the dentist? RIP

[high gull]

It's America big dawg

[lost token]

https://tenor.com/view/god-hand-gene-olivia-leaving-out-the-door-gif-16652515

[broken bear]

i fly to denmark or australia when i want med care

<3

[high gull]

Not wanting to die costs money

I saw a picture of a dude in a hospital

[lost token]

Shit dying costs money.

[broken bear]

i only do preventative in the US

also my insurance is like 0$ deductible

[high gull]

Brother man paid $65 for a lozenge in a hospital

[lost token]

Them mortitions are ruthless lmao.

[lost token]

Huh?

[high gull]

A fucking lozenge bruh

[manic wolf]

Jesus how loaded are you? Come pull me out of Britain an get me a greencard already

[high gull]

The hard candies

[lost token]

Hey yo...what?

[high gull]

The ones old folks give you

65$

[lost token]

https://tenor.com/view/worried-laughter-gif-9895609

Getting taxed for a lozenge yo...

[high gull]

It was some old ass 4chan post

[manic wolf]

Not if you go to Canada it doesnt 😄

[lost token]

What the fuck is the point lmao

[high gull]

But guy had a itemized bill for his stay in the hospital

[lost token]

That's so fucked up

[high gull]

And one of the key ones was a lozenge

[broken bear]

well off for a 22 yr old

[lost token]

65 can get you like

Gas, dinner

Some groceries maybe

...like a fucking LOZENGE

[manic wolf]

Well im poor for a 30something year old, so come save my broke ass 😄

[high gull]

I wish I could find the post

[lost token]

https://tenor.com/view/yakuza-gif-18148683

[high gull]

But it was then proceeded by everyone shitting on American healthcare

[lost token]

Because that shit trifling as helllll

[manic wolf]

65 bucks for a lozenge do be wild

[high gull]

I remember my mom spending like 12 hours in a hospital

And all they gave her was like 5 bags of saline

[lost token]

Like why do yall hate us and the med staff so much lmao

[high gull]

Her end total was around $54k

[lost token]

https://tenor.com/view/stella-how-stella-got-her-groove-back-angela-bassett-um-umm-gif-18975321

[manic wolf]

We're British, we'll take the piss out of anything we can

Don't feel special, everyone gets it 😄

[lost token]

Oh no i meant the american healthcare system

[tropic crag]

i've been to britian alot the last like 8 years or so... it uh... makes sense why they'd want to lash out to feel better

[manic wolf]

Shutit you, dont let them know, I was having fun

[lost token]

I got so much smoke for britain it's like volcanic fallout.

Don't matter how long it takes, someone gonna catch it somewhere.

[tropic crag]

[manic wolf]

Get in line, theres like 60 other nations int queue before your ass 😄

[tropic crag]

best way i can sum up the difference between america and the uk quickly is that in the UK if you go to a mcdonalds there will be literally 15 people behind the counter, 1 person just putting lids on drinks, and your food will be handed to you cold somehow

in america it'll be like 3 people doing 7 jobs and you get warm food thats usually put together better

[high gull]

[manic wolf]

In all fairness, I have heard customer service in the US is excellent

[tropic crag]

i'm not saying america is better for this, but its an easy way to spot why alot of the differences exist

[broken bear]

the only mcds that is better than america is japan and china

they do chicken better

[hollow mural]

does blessed stimm apply to stim pack ability

[manic wolf]

But I know full well its only so good because they survive on tips because yall got a miserable minimum wage, which is fucked up, quite frankly

[tropic crag]

UK subway used to be actually great tbh, but last i tried it more recently it was more like american subway

[hollow mural]

sorry stim supply*

[tropic crag]

kind of, it happens even in jobs where there are no tips, its more of a cultural thing... americans would hate working in a fast food place with like 15 people all doing half a job

[broken bear]

no tf we wouldnt

what do you think corporate america is

[tropic crag]

i'm talking about lower level workers not fake workers

[vale remnant]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a092888b-b328-4075-b5d2-4d2af84cbb81/method-man

[manic wolf]

Ive no experience working in a fast food joint here so I cannot comment, but more people employed to do less work sounds like a win to me

[broken bear]

i worked fast food

we'd love it

15 people doing half a job is still 7 people worth of shit gettin done

[high gull]

Aye

[tropic crag]

yeah thats the point, that wouldn't fly with american bosses and stuff because of the culture

[high gull]

Go to Thailand and try the KFC there

[broken bear]

i have

its good

[high gull]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/F2sBDTN-_OY

Green curry?

I could never

Not here in the states

[manic wolf]

One day i'll visit an get a more educated opinion on the matter

[broken bear]

asia does kfc better than kentucky

no lie

[tropic crag]

i can tell that you aren't picturing the scene correctly... its hard to explain how sureal it is to walk into a british mcdonalds as an american lol

[broken bear]

I am american

and aussie

ive been

its usually dogshit server

and shit tasting mcdicks

[charred bronze]

korean and japanese fried chicken traditions are insanely good

[manic wolf]

Tell him to clean it then 😄

[charred bronze]

learned the basic techniques from american GIs though

[tropic crag]

yeah the dog shit service is the result and why americans would hate it in alot of parts of america. because alot of us look down on recieving really really bad service so we tend to aim for a minimum out of just like... not wanting to cause problems or personal pride

[manic wolf]

Maccy D's is shit anyway, thats like roadtrip and you cant afford to stop for long type food

[high gull]

I heard tipping ain't really a thing outside the US

[manic wolf]

Its not

[tropic crag]

it is, i like to try things in other countries

like fast food i mean to see how different they are

[tropic crag]

only rarely... like when it makes more sense to

[manic wolf]

You tip your server in the UK if they're really helpful and good at thier job, but otherwise no

[high gull]

Word

Mfs will want tips while taking your order at a counter here in some places

Like why am I tipping a mf taking my shit at the counter bro

[tropic crag]

yeah thats a cheap ass boss problem

[manic wolf]

Like there is a Nepalese restaraunt near me, an I'll always tip the dudes there because the food is bangin an its proper portions an they serve massive pours of spirits, but I aint tipping in 'bucks or nothin cos they dont put in the effort

[charred bronze]

post covid? everywhere. All those point of sale systems default to asking for a tip

[high gull]

@broken bear I know what I gotta get you to try

Jollibee's

[charred bronze]

i tip because people don't make enough money and the economy sucks

[high gull]

Another post covid thing I noticed that never left was

Resteraunts closing early now

[charred bronze]

best fast food tender imo

[high gull]

Even walmart here closes at like 10

That shit use to be 24hrs

[tropic crag]

not around me, that did happen for a year or so but most of the 24 hour and late places are back

[high gull]

Their spicy chicken hits

[tropic crag]

probably based on sales numbers or something

[high gull]

Could be

[tropic crag]

or maybe left up to management

[charred bronze]

it all does. Even the burger is good, in a white castle kind of way

[high gull]

Alot of people do online shopping now and days

[broken bear]

no this is just a british thing

[tropic crag]

true

[charred bronze]

but the tenders and fried chicken are excellent

[manic wolf]

Its more convenient for most, yeah

[high gull]

I've never had a burger from them

[broken bear]

like british people are uniquely bad at service jobs

😭

[broken bear]

what is this

[tropic crag]

yeah i'm kind of saying if you had a bunch of americans and tried to get them to act as bad as brits in a job like mcdonalds they would hate it, like specifically like a british mcdonalds

[manic wolf]

'Scuse me?

[charred bronze]

I think they call it a yumburger. Sauce makes it. Weird compared against what would generally be considered a good burger though. White castle vibes, totally different flavor, bigger

[forest escarp]

i should watch reservoir dogs again

[broken bear]

doin less is something we try to do

corporate bosses may hate it

lol

[manic wolf]

You work a bar surrounded by people who cant handle their booze an tell me you're gonna be nice to em when they start kickin off

[charred bronze]

what's different? I'm not grasping it

[tropic crag]

work ethic and how its valued within the society tbh

[high gull]

Their spicy chicken sandiwch is slammin

[broken bear]

wing i think ur rlly confusing it 😭

[high gull]

Especially since they put fresh sliced jalapenos on it

[tropic crag]

like if you work hard in britain you'll be bullied, if you do it in america even lazy people are like "thank god they are doing the work"

[charred bronze]

yeah, unique take on the spicy chicken sandwich concept. all the heat is in the sauce/jalapenos

[broken bear]

wait they got spicy chicken?

where

[manic wolf]

Work ethic is valued a plenty in the UK, but your average customer service job doesnt get paid enough for people to care, so you get your cold burger and you're happy it dont got no spit in it

[charred bronze]

huh, interesting. That said, as someone who started in retail and spent the last 20 years in the corporate game development world, people who work themselves to the bone for entities that don't give a single shit for them are suckers

[trail forge]

any talents that help needler toxin spread on blue mode?

[charred bronze]

'we're a family here'. Sure, until someone with 3 letters before their name decide that they need to post 'record profits' for their quarterly report

then layoffs

[tropic crag]

you kind of summed it up and why i think what i do, and honestly i worked in wood working for like 9 years in america and when i shopped around for jobs there i realized that i wasn't going to fit in at all simply off of safety standards reasons

[manic wolf]

Needlegun is mostly talent agnostic, just spec for melee, Needler already does great damage

[tropic crag]

100% i'm not talking about going above and beyond... i'm talking like bare bones standard for american... like the lazy work in america is above average in britain... not 100% of the time at all, but its the general trend that i noticed over the last like decade going back and forth... and its not because brits are worse people actually.. its like a top down problem like alot of americas problems

[manic wolf]

I was joking about the spit aspect, but yes, essentially its a menial job that people largely only care about because it pays the bills. Which is sad, but thats the corporate world for you

[glacial gyro]

Kind of. Theres a +10% toxin ptency node, and the node that gives you more ranged damage when closer to the target also, interestingly, affects the damage the toxin from the needle gun does.

[manic wolf]

As it always tends to be with such things

[charred bronze]

and then you have MBA consultants recommending new performance structures that can ONLY reward like 3 people in the department with real merit increases, even if every single member of your team is a rock star, and mandate that some percentage of people be marked 'needs improvement'. It's completely insane. I say this as someone who GOT the merit increases. It's disgusting.

[tropic crag]

like british government has been failing its people on education for a long time now (same with most of america tbh)

[peak forum]

how are people building needle pistol? does damage stat effect just impact damage or the toxin as well>

[tropic crag]

but america is big and diverse so we can pretend that the best stuff we have is everywhere... when its not

[glacial gyro]

Oh are we talking about capitalism today?

[manic wolf]

I would say education-wise nearly all western nations are failing.

[charred bronze]

less capitalism as a holistic structure, and more its most corrupt, enshittified form

[tropic crag]

damage only affects the intial hit, so basically you don't really need to add anything to it, its really really really strong with zero support... i made stopping power my dump stat

[manic wolf]

Taught life skills like cooking? How to budget? How to do your taxes? How to set up a business? Nah get fucked.

[peak forum]

blessings?

[tropic crag]

not wrong

[glacial gyro]

So just, where a system based on 'survival of the greediest' will inevitably gravitate towards

[manic wolf]

Yeah... you kinda learn the bare minimum, then you're thrown out into society at large an you either sink or swim. Real preperation is all but non-existent

[tropic crag]

i use run and gun and ghost but crit does affect poison (gives more stacks of poison on a crit) so if theres a crit power thats probably better. I don't think my blessings are meta but honestly it doesn't need anything to work amazingly well

[charred bronze]

I mean, our real life examples of communism never even close to approached trotsky's vision. Any economic system can be horrifically corrupted by bad actors.

[peak forum]

yea it feels great was just curious. thanks for the recs

[charred bronze]

perfect communism is the ideal system, absolutely. I prefer a middle ground, dem socialist roughly

[lost token]

That's just what it inspires by design.

[manic wolf]

And it always will be, because those directing the parade make the laws, its a self-fulfilling prophecy

[charred bronze]

yeah, that's the trick isn't it. The problem with communism is that it demands very strong central authority, and is also prone to corruptive influences

and stagnation

there's no ideal system

[manic wolf]

Its a problem with any govermental system

You always have those in power and those who dont have a say

[glacial gyro]

Because school is no longer about learning and curiosity. They don't teach chilrden to think, they teach them to obey. Thinking causes upsets in the status quo, and upsets in the status quo are only profitable if they are caused by the shareholders who already have everything in place to make money off it; Thinking causes things like 'class consciousness' and 'critical analysis'

[manic wolf]

And those in power arent going to implement laws to hold themselves accountable. It wont happen.

[tropic crag]

thats why i always thought the answer would be a comunistic republic with constantly rotating senate members or something... but like... that would require an entire world reform so its not something that can ever happen

like you'd have to become evil to make it happen so its a no go lol

[manic wolf]

Thats a bit reductive, but in essence thats what happens with the lack of preperation for the youngers.

[lost token]

It's not that it can't happen fr. Capitalism hasn't been the staple of the world since human history

[charred bronze]

I'll be honest, people learn to obey from social media and tv. Teachers in school are just trying to meet minimum standards of getting idiots to pass tests most of the time

they don't have time to be orwellian fascists

[glacial gyro]

Yes, teachers are beholden to the system built around them, we agree.

[spiral horizon]

teaching is an incredibly jading experience

[charred bronze]

I just read a lot of 'school is a dystopian worker factory', but what does the utopian version look like? There's a lot that gets covered in school that isn't 'be a good worker'

[manic wolf]

Communistic republic or benevolent dictator. You decide. People are inherently very easy to corrupt, money equates to resources and thusly everyone is always gonna want more of it, be it for better or for worse.

[tropic crag]

earnestly i think its more mundane and dumber than that... i think its that people wanted a way to measure how well schools were doing, so they started reducing things into things that can be put simply into equations to come up with scores. That focus on scores meant that teachers jobs became dependent on those scores being good. so the teachers focus on staying in a home and having food by prepping the kids to give the teacher a good score

[charred bronze]

I haven't taught, but I was with a professor for a few years, and the stories she would tell

students are a fucking nightmare

the administration is a nightmare

[brittle sierra]

I don't know about "topian"

But the original school system was built to teach kids how to work in the assembly line

That is why they are forced to be sitting in a claustrophobic chair for 8 hours a day

[glacial gyro]

And you have just described the meta system of capitalism threatening teachers with starvation if they don't grind their children into a collection of metrics.

[spiral horizon]

yea I did it for a couple years, the only redeeming quality is it's very secure work

[tropic crag]

yup

[manic wolf]

I've heard. It sounds very rough from the teacher's perspective where you're handed a prospectus and told this is what you have to teach, regardless of if you feel it helps the kids you're actually meant to be teaching

[charred bronze]

the original school system was built before there were assembly lines, that's a load of horseshit that modern iconoclasts try to sell. I'm sure elements of school are about preparing people for becoming part of the heirarchy and the economic system, but it's not a dystopian system at heart

[tropic crag]

the alcholics i've known and the teachers i've known have had a strong overlap

because of the stress

same thing with the emts i've known tbh

[charred bronze]

and I'm a modern iconoclast, so

[peak bloom]

man the dual stubs kinda stink the more you go up difficulty

[glacial gyro]

It changed over the years. Its purpose is to produce workers currently.

[charred bronze]

I just don't buy into the verbal tropes that get passed around on reddit top posts

[manic wolf]

That doesnt surprise me in the least. I wouldnt be surprised if its not just down to stress either. Its knowing you could do better in what you're doing, despite feeling incapable of doing so

[tropic crag]

yeah

[glacial gyro]

What grades did you teach

[brittle sierra]

Before then education was only available to the wealthy

The industrial revolution forced people to be somewhat skilled in their labor in order to transpose them from the rural lifestyle I to the city where they needed to read and write for taxes or signs

[charred bronze]

yeah, the system is built on people entering a work force. Do you imagine it would be different if we were in a communist system?

[tropic crag]

i've seen people use them in auric just fine but i think you have to try a bit harder to make them work than some other options

[charred bronze]

incorrect. In the 1800s pre revolution there were even school houses in the old west.

a lot of people had begun getting basic education

[brittle sierra]

And who could afford them?

[charred bronze]

they weren't for pay

they were for a town or a settlement

[spiral horizon]

I spent a year with preschoolers and then did a few years of highschool

[brittle sierra]

Oh wait I forgot

The natives were forced to go 💀

[charred bronze]

that's a whole different, racist, horribly misguided ball of wax

[low harbor]

High school is kinda ok tbh

[glacial gyro]

There's a difference between "The education system is designed to prepare young people for a productive life in society" and "The education system is designed to produce efficient drones that don't question things"

[manic wolf]

Nah, they just ask more of the user than DAP's or other full-auto weapons do

[charred bronze]

believe it or not, the intentions were 'good'. A lot of those schools were formed by people who were trying to save indigenous from eradication. At first.

Of course, their ethnocentrism led to snowballing abuses

[tropic crag]

yeah my grandparents were part of that and that was not part of the education system that was sprouting up that you're talking about... not directly

[charred bronze]

and it was philosophically bankrupt from the start

[brittle sierra]

HAHHAHAA

[tropic crag]

by part of it i mean they got dragged to the schools

[lost token]

The experience can be dramatically different for generations of people just off of policy alone. Plenty of examples where school districts made to fail and shovel people out can run students ragged.

Extremely difficult to learn in an environment full of deliberately underpaid and overworked staff, maintenance issues that go unresolved, intentionally predatory financing measures that make it so that "merit based" systems of sponsorship taking in performance of the student body already made to not succeed by academic milestones to just get raked over the coals every years.

[brittle sierra]

Nah this guy can't be serious

Guys guys we gotta convert the indigenous population to our God for their own good!

[glacial gyro]

This is a quote from Carl Sagan one of the greatest minds we've ever had:

“My experience is, you go talk to kindergarten kids or first-grade kids, you find a class full of science enthusiasts. And they ask deep questions. ‘What is a dream, why do we have toes, why is the moon round, what is the birthday of the world, why is grass green?’ These are profound, important questions. They just bubble right out of them. You go talk to 12th grade students and there’s none of that. They’ve become leaden and incurious. Something terrible has happened between kindergarten and 12th grade and it’s not just puberty.”

[main wagon]

Meanwhile in Scum chat, peacefully discussing the nuances of the history of education

[manic wolf]

That very much happened. For ages.

[main wagon]

Who would’ve guessed?

[tropic crag]

they killed alot of them even early on tbh

[lost token]

The point of boarding schools in this context was explictly to target indigenous children to further deepen forced assimilation after the ravages of genocidal campaigns.

The intent was always harm.

[charred bronze]

that's what the thought was, alright. Educate them, get them to 'assimilate' and prevent them from being genocided as 'godless savages'. It was misguided and led to horrific abuses, as I said

[brittle sierra]

Nah bro don't debate people who try to moralize colonialism

[tropic crag]

their intentions were portrayed as good so well meaning people would defend them without thinking but they never intended well

[brittle sierra]

Trust me

[charred bronze]

it was cultural erasure and disgusting, but those people literally thought they were saving lives

[brittle sierra]

I don't give a fuck what they believe

[manic wolf]

Its almost like a character fuelled by drugs and an ability to vent his frustrations at will is appealing to people in this day and age

[charred bronze]

this was a time in US history when there were direct advocates for 'solving the indian problem' mind you

[dim moth]

I live my entire life in that 7 second period after rampage ends

no stamina, increased damage taken

wondering why I'm even here

[glacial gyro]

Especially those dissatisfied with the status quo

[tropic crag]

lol when i was little during certain times the teachers in the classes i was in would make me stand up in front of class and talk about this sort of stuff , i don't expect to change their minds but i'd rather put out the more correct version along side it

[charred bronze]

if we don't pay attention to the nuance of history, then we will fail to recognize those wrongs when they arise again.

witness the present moment

[manic wolf]

Relatable, but every minute of every day, I get closer to the tail end of the Rampage buff and when I get there, I will be happy

[lost token]

"Solving the Indian problem" came after the massacres, rapes, displacement, environmental sabotage, etc.

[brittle sierra]

I am understanding the nuances of history

I don't listen to the perspective of the abusers 💀

[charred bronze]

yup

[forest escarp]

every time i run into someone using the Jonkler voice, i assume they watch rick and morty

[lost token]

As in. The next step of systemic abuses as prescribed by colonialism

[glacial gyro]

And hey, if I can roleplay a crazed cannibal mad-dog whose purpose is to be let off a leash when our mighty LORD MAGLEVIATHAN needs a problem torn to pieces at the same time then hell, I'm in

[charred bronze]

You can be correct in your perspectives, and still miss the point

[tropic crag]

they also outlawed group meetings above a certain size to stop culture from continuing, its why the return of powwows was such a big deal

[main wagon]

Scum 1: “hey, do you think maybe we’ve been kept in a state of poverty by an uncaring puppet autocracy commandeered by a wealthy elite who use their power to enact constant wartime legislation that prevents us from attaining any form of wealth of significance as the lower caste?”

Scum 2: “BEATS ME MUCKER, QUIT SITTING ON THE BLUNT”

[lost token]

The welfare of the indigenous had zero relevance to the people responsible for their destruction and ongoing exploitation.

[tropic crag]

and don't get me started on jackson man

[manic wolf]

In the UK a very good example of that was the act that banned raves from taking place in the mid 90s.

[brittle sierra]

No you are not grasping anything from what I am saying

Freedom for the slave is oppression for the master

You either justify one or the other

There is no "mutual" understanding

[manic wolf]

Its happened many times, over many years, in many counties, in many forms

[main wagon]

Is that Anarchist?

[charred bronze]

I'm not offering mutual understanding. I'm not saying those people were right. I'm saying they were on one side of a debate, and that both sides were wrong

[manic wolf]

😄 Effectively thats whats going on here

[glacial gyro]

To put it another way: "Equality always feels like oppression for the group that has always had more"

[manic wolf]

In fact, that was beautifully concise, big props

[brittle sierra]

Who is the "other" side here?

[forest escarp]

the best argument against a [anyone i disagree with] is to blast em

[tropic crag]

different intensities and morals but the same tool yeah

[undone sorrel]

is chainaxe any good?

[charred bronze]

In that time period, there were people who were in favor of total eradication. The people who formed those schools were in the other camp, but horribly misguided.

[brittle sierra]

Wait Scum can use chain axe?

[tropic crag]

i've heard people say good things

[undone sorrel]

yuh

[lost token]

A soft hand guiding cultural genocide is not motivated by any sense of altruism.

[manic wolf]

Ofc, thats just the example I feel most experienced to give, but the pattern is the same, and always follows the same trend

[glacial gyro]

It is, for me, one of my top two for skoom. The other is the Saw. Both are very different builds

[charred bronze]

even as the US pushed west and continually stole native lands, there were voices raised against it. You don't hear much about that, and those voices were largely ignored as well

[brittle sierra]

Oh wow thanks

We either genocide by erasing their culture

Or genocide by erasing their lives

So thought provoking and complex

[tropic crag]

they were for cultural eradication which is the same thing tbh, but then we'd have to go into talks about what "whiteness really is" and like.. i'd need to start getting paid to do that

[main wagon]

Who would’ve thought the “hive” part of hive scum would refer to a hive mind of likeminded individuals, albeit sadistic ones

[charred bronze]

It was viewed as favorable to murder. It was still wrong, ofc

[manic wolf]

A united culture is much harder to stay on top of, even if said culture isn the entire population

[undone sorrel]

messing around in the psycanium, mark 4 feels really fun to swing around

[glacial gyro]

Use the Mk12, not the Mk4. The mk4 isn't exactly bad, but the 12's moveset works with scum better

[main wagon]

Mfw we achieve class consciousness on the drug addict

[manic wolf]

I prefer masochisim myself, but you do you boo 😄

[brittle sierra]

"guys we shouldn't kill the Jews, let's just kick them out of Europe"

[forest escarp]

myes

[lost token]

Wouldn't be the first time lol

[broken bear]

@high gull melee scum is sex incarnate

[tropic crag]

i grew up listening to angry natives tell me about the past, so i got thoughts about the state of the world

[brittle sierra]

Impossible I am sex 😈

[undone sorrel]

dont even have the mastery on it to swap yet, too poor to boost it to max though the armory too

[manic wolf]

You're a cross between a dog and a fish

[charred bronze]

and they're still getting fucked over.

[glacial gyro]

Burying an axe in a chaos worshipper's skull is a form of praxis

[undone sorrel]

will try it out when i get a chance though

[brittle sierra]

Not quite

Whales closest relatives are actually cows and horses

[charred bronze]

we're all fish

technically

[manic wolf]

Alright horse-fish

[spiral horizon]

look can we all just agree it's the game awards' fault

[tropic crag]

yeah its never stopped man

[brittle sierra]

Perfect

[glacial gyro]

It will only take a couple games. If you want to level it easy mode, just have it in your melee slot on a ranged build and get passive exp that way

[lost token]

Yeah. Soft-spoken genociders often seek alternative routes towards the same goals. The damage done is always severe

Which is why the basis of settler colonial enterprise is never capable of functioning in good faith, regardless of the realities of some deluding themselves.

[broken bear]

incsa jf

[tropic crag]

orca scare me man, they don't really attack people but its only because they haven't wanted to... yet

[broken bear]

i gzsej

myszel

cawatp tunnel

[tropic crag]

wild ones i mean, captive orcas attack all the time

[high gull]

You know what's better than melee scum

[main wagon]

From the moment my buddy put the stream on, I was like “Remember it’s the game awards, it’s a popularity contest. Not merit based”

[high gull]

Succeeding even when your teammate's stupidity is a overwhelming Prescence

[manic wolf]

I am so tempted to post that one Afroman song with all this fish talk 😄

[glacial gyro]

When this shit popped up every cell in my body stopped moving

I thought it was finally here

[undone sorrel]

does mobility vs defenses dump matter much on the chainaxe?

[glacial gyro]

But it wasn't

[broken bear]

oh my god

[tropic crag]

as a huge fan of video games for decades i ignore the VGAs for the same reason i ignore the oscars as a huge film buff

[main wagon]

My friend was really hoping for HL3. I watched a shard of his soul wither away in real time

[broken bear]

you people are like swifties at the grammies

😭

[high gull]

We ain't getting ES6 til 2040

[glacial gyro]

Defenses are a higher priority dump

[charred bronze]

course not. It was conquest and exploitation, pure and simple. Often accomplished most by double dealing and false treaties, more than strength of arm. We got a lot of black marks on our record

[high gull]

And it's still gonna be ass

[manic wolf]

Tf is that?

[high gull]

I dunno why people put faith in Todd Howard like that man ain't constantly lie to us with each game release

[charred bronze]

I'm not much of a bethesda fan

[spiral horizon]

TELL ME LIES TELL ME SWEET LITTLE LIES

[manic wolf]

Trooo

[broken bear]

people who have their nose so far up taylor swifts ass she can do no wrong

[next fern]

so i just tried uzi desperado scum
how did anyone at any point think this class was weak

[glacial gyro]

[broken bear]

sheer lobotmization

[manic wolf]

I mean, Id put my nose up her ass too, but yeah ok, I get the sentiment 😄

[tropic crag]

bro all the people who wanted to make that halflife stopped wanting to make it like 11 years ago and with how valve works that means we will never get it, its crazy that people still think we might

[broken bear]

https://tenor.com/view/dol-huh-eyes-disgusted-gif-11690827820922534530

she ugly tf

she looks like a bloated cat

[high gull]

I'm pretty sure Todd and his people looked directly at the critical failure that was Starfield.....and learned NOT A FUCKING THING from that.

[charred bronze]

well, before the talent reorganization, you needed to be level 20s before you really started cooking.

Once you have 30 points? It's godlike

[spiral horizon]

I can't believe we're getting Bloodborne 2 before ES6 before GTA6

[lost token]

In combination with legislation.

It's much easier to start drafting bogus laws and imposing them on people after straight up managing to wipe people out in enough numbers while settlers establish their footholds to follow said laws enthusiastically.

[broken bear]

needs to retire the red lip and winged eyeliner

[manic wolf]

WE'RE GETTING WHAT

[glacial gyro]

Fun fact, as of now, Elder Scrolls 6 has been in development longer than Duke Nukem Forever, a game whose sole claim to fame was its glacial development

[manic wolf]

Say that again

[spiral horizon]

(we're not getting BB2, sorry)

[undone sorrel]

oh my fucking god i know what youre referencing

[next fern]

people should wait till 30 next time, this is just obscene, im going back to dual stubbers its almost not fun to play this lmfao

[tropic crag]

honestly i really like starfield, it was the best bethesda title since oblivion, i have like 1000 hours in that game

[next fern]

never used melee once except to push a dog

[manic wolf]

I'm sorry. But you sir, are a first class c*nt

[high gull]

Watch the next bethesda reveal is gonna be skyrim re re re re re re re re mastered in 8k

[charred bronze]

Yup. And it wasn't just the indigenous. Same things were done to all even faintly significant populations of color in the US.

[manic wolf]

I was so hyped for a second then D:

[glacial gyro]

SKYRIM FOR OUYA

[lost token]

Almost lost a job from one of her shows being in town and fucktons of people who'd never show up otherwise taking up the public commute.

Her music mid as hell.

[spiral horizon]

I really should've swapped up the ordering to not create false expectations

[manic wolf]

Thats the one high I'm gong to experience for the rest of the year

And it was murdered instantly

[charred bronze]

and looking around, the white supremacy never ever left

[tropic crag]

mostly got shuffled around at best

[spiral horizon]

everyone talking about taylor swift's engagement like as if it's not the most fucking generic borderline AI generated couple you ever seen

[broken bear]

Incan never let me get fake nails again

[manic wolf]

You will take your AI generated slop and you will enjoy it, back to the pod with you

[broken bear]

My nails are fucked

[tropic crag]

if you held a gun to my head and asked me if she was married or not i would have said yes

[glacial gyro]

You can thank Andrew Johnson for being a spineless shitweasel who dropped all plans at forcing the south to answer for its crimes after Lincoln was shot. The moral of the story is: You have to hold them accountable, or they just come back.

[spiral horizon]

ok I will never let you get fake nails again, despite having no power to enforce such

[broken bear]

I sorta listen to u

[lost token]

Redefined and muddled. Less explictly cited and flattened by law but in full effect where relevant.

[spiral horizon]

sorta is doing a lot of heavy lifting here

[charred bronze]

He was very sympathetic to them, so it's unsurprising.

but yeah

[manic wolf]

Fam just grow real nails

[charred bronze]

we've had a lot of turning points in our history.

we're living in one

[manic wolf]

Yeah.. we're witnessing the slow fall of the western empires

[tropic crag]

honestly he was more of a true monster than a spineless anything... he has more blood on his hands directly than most humans who've ever lived

wait i thought you said jackson

i'm dumb wrong andrew

[charred bronze]

no, we're witnessing the greatest world powers falling to authoritarianism. Dawn of a new dark age

[broken bear]

Well yes and no

I took my meds but also drank (not supposed to)

[glacial gyro]

No, Andrew Johnson was Lincoln's VP in his second term who took over the presidency after Lincoln was assassinated.

[lost token]

America's white supremacy constant has been core to its existence. The confederacy just stood in the way of falling in line with industrialization ambitions and the like. The same viciousness that inspires America's existence has been in every corner of the country.

[manic wolf]

Whats the difference?

[glacial gyro]

True enough.

[tropic crag]

naw we've had modern countries fail before, things will change, some poor people will become rich and some rich people will become poor and we'll keep making profits

[charred bronze]

a fall implies removal or disappearance. This is something else

[lost token]

Less falling and more embracing what they already were.

[charred bronze]

nah, that's painfully reductivist

don't do that

[manic wolf]

Not really. The empire we knew is slowly morphing into something else, its still the fall of an empire as we know it

[glacial gyro]

Its kind of everyone at once is the thing. The last time a group of nations all fell at once like this we had like 800 years of feudalism.

[lost token]

It's not by any measure.

[charred bronze]

accelerationists would have you believe that fall leads to dissolution. I have news for them.

[glacial gyro]

Interestingly, feudalism perfectly describes the system monstrous scumfucks like Peter Thiel and Elon Musk want.

[manic wolf]

Bring back anarchy

[charred bronze]

authoritarian regimes can be incredibly stable for long periods

[tropic crag]

yeah i cited more modern places to see how people react when used to the comforts of modern life, i don't think it would shake out the same with the connectivity of the world now compared to in the past

[broken bear]

I think you all need to stop talking about the world and go get laid

[fast gust]

I'll pass but thanks for the offer

[manic wolf]

Women are expensive and I spent my last pleasure money on beer

[charred bronze]

sex doesn't solve this kind of anxiety but thanks. The world is still there in post nut clarity

[manic wolf]

Beer wont leave me

Beer is eternal

[mortal meadow]

I just got called bad after tanking two monstros in a aumael and dying once

[tropic crag]

this is something my dad would say and he's like 60

[charred bronze]

beer always leaves you, in a stream the same color it was going in

[mortal meadow]

we love boom bringer

[glacial gyro]

Maybe if it was an accident, but this fall is orchestrated. The richest men in the world essentially want their own baronies to rule over, devoid of government interference or regulation, and to get there, you have to kneecap the government. That's all DOGE really did, but the real evil here is people like Peter Thiel.

[low harbor]

The levelling experience is horrible but full kit hvs is super strong and at minimum a top3 class

[tropic crag]

i'm allergic to beer, makes me a balloon

[charred bronze]

literal techocratic monarchy, yup

[manic wolf]

Ask your local tech priest for an improved liver then

[mortal meadow]

hive scum is weak if you understand nothing about the game whatsoever

[charred bronze]

the current thing unfolding in the US was laid out by Curtis Yarvin, and heavily influences project 2025

[lost token]

Accelerationist actions by governments pushing towards higher scales of oppression have alwaya had their utility in artificially inspiring responses from the effected public. America has been a staple of this for its entire history.

What was no longer palatable by the turn of civil rights would just be rearranged with intentionally flattening language and made clear during each era of the country going out of its way to target and neglect its historically oppressed populations.

[charred bronze]

I'm talking about accelerationist revolutionaries

[tropic crag]

don't get me wrong, when i say things will change i mean alot... for the average person things will change as if worlds are flipped upside down... but yeah like i said, they'll keep it turning as much as they can because the only goal is the profits

[charred bronze]

your local tankies that want people like the current US gov in power so it'll all go to shit faster or something

[mortal meadow]

saying hive scum is weak is like saying "i haven't gone above havoc20" and it shows

[glacial gyro]

"But if everything gets substantially worse and genocides start, the people will all rise up and create socialism spontaneously" -someone who has never opened a history book

[tropic crag]

i just live in a place that legalized other things so i gave up drinking

[charred bronze]

exactly

[manic wolf]

Nah, Havoc isnt a good measure of a player or a classes capability

[charred bronze]

meanwhile, I have my political allies advocating for gun control in this environment. Like, look around

everyone is dumb

[fast gust]

The shitification of people

[charred bronze]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZAj6xfyHIw

[mortal meadow]

if you can't go over havoc 20 you need to rethink your build and understanding of the game, havoc 40 is difficult but around havoc 35 is when shit hits the fan quick

[glacial gyro]

No true leftist wants this. Under no circumstances and all that.

[manic wolf]

I am truly jealous/

[lost token]

I could care less about impotent accelerationist "revolutionaries" that jump straight to spirals because it sounded attractive.

It's more significant to actually talk about the people actively moving things than people who want to poorly kick a hornet nest with no real plan.

[charred bronze]

yeah, those're thin on the ground alas

[manic wolf]

Brother, I playtested Havoc. Its an obtuse meme mode with no bearing on how a class or player performs because any given build can be cucked by bullshit modifiers.

[tropic crag]

its an education problem tbh more than anything... and a cultural respect towards not being as dumb as possible i guess lol

[fast gust]

I know I shouldn't step here, but political sides are mostly artificial nowadays

Both sides are more or less controlled by the same people and long gone sre the different policy pushings of the past

[glacial gyro]

All we can do is get involved with whatever local DSA chapter there is and do what we can

[low harbor]

Why is hvs of all class chats talking politics rn lol

[manic wolf]

If you think Havoc is a yardstick to measure class or player ability on, you're a moron

[charred bronze]

anarchists. Makes sense

[mortal meadow]

under havoc 20 is like, the least modifiers though? you REALLY have to fuck up to struggle there.

[manic wolf]

Its not the point.

[tropic crag]

because the VGA is boring

[glacial gyro]

The underclass of criminals scraping a living off the pipes of a dystopian hellhole where life is cheap and they are seen as a resource does narratively attract a certain mindset

[manic wolf]

People are struggling on Scum because Fatshark released Arb first and that drilled a whole ass load of bad habits into players

[lost token]

This is what's said when there's not an actual understanding of what people doing that real work towards meaningful change actually do.

[mortal meadow]

i mean that too honestly

[manic wolf]

Thats the long an short of it

[low harbor]

Auric solo/duo is kind of better as a class demo than havoc tbh

[tropic crag]

honestly people would have struggled even without that, darktide lets alot of people get very far without fundementals

[mortal meadow]

yeah i agree on that too

[glacial gyro]

I mean its more than just arbites. Ogryn also has to be actively trying to die, and everyone becomes a tank when you have piss tougness on call

[fast gust]

Because otherwise I'll be complaining that Ogryn needs something to stand because I'm sick snd tired of been nerfed while the game literally doesn't accomodate for the class fantasy

You are a big fat lump of stats with great mixed horde deal in exchange of a slower dodge that pushes trash...in a mobility game.

[charred bronze]

okay, gonna go actually be a space criminal working for horrible space fascists now. Good talk

[mortal meadow]

point is, if you're struggling on scum it screams "hey i don't know the game but they let me get this far with it"

[manic wolf]

Scum is like a throwback for those of us who were here from the early days of DT, its most (ranged build excluded) designed for people who have good fundamental mechanics, and the reason there is so much "Scum Weak" discourse, is because a lot of players simply dont have those fundamentals

[lost token]

Literally tons of people operating outside of dsa for good reason.

[tropic crag]

naw any oggy can die when they get a bad gunner spawn (other than that you are 100% right)

[glacial gyro]

You have to coalition build. Even Lenin knew that (though he was a class traitor in the end)

[low harbor]

I thought this was the borderlands roleplay mb

[glacial gyro]

RIP THE FLESH SALT THE WOUND

[manic wolf]

Yeah, thats not untrue tbh. Since reworks, both first and second, all classes have been massively scaled in power

[lost token]

Yes and people do that outside of dsa.

[tropic crag]

so has the game if we're being honest, all difficulties are harder than they used to be

[manic wolf]

Yeah, though thats mostly due to powercreep. Back in my day, waving walking stick aggressively

[glacial gyro]

I don't think you really listened. You don't have to like the DSA. You just have to make enough connections to get shit done.

[fast gust]

Powercreep has left some classes a bit behind because nerfing anything in this community gets the game review bombed

[tropic crag]

lol i felt that way at the launch of darktide since i learned to be good at these games with launch slayer in vt2, they used to kick me left and right because people couldn't play that class

made me a really good fighting idiot in these games tho

[lost token]

I'm well aware. I'm saying that people are moving within and beyond their communities constantly.

[glacial gyro]

Listen I play Slayer Bardin, stepping into Hive Scum was like a texture swap, I'm right at home

[glacial gyro]

Alright, fair enough

[peak bloom]

does blessed stims clear past wounds?

[glacial gyro]

no

[tropic crag]

its very much "press button have fun" sort of class, its going to become one of my mains because it feels so slayer (i even made my character as short as i could )

[manic wolf]

Yeah, Thats it innit, Scum is designed for veteran players, its not designed for noobs (ranged build not included, thats very new player friendly, other than all the bad habits they'll learn)

[glacial gyro]

It will eventually get nerfed, and those players will be super fucked

[tropic crag]

i think new players can learn on scum if they learn the melee version or even the stim supply version

but if they go ranged its over

[glacial gyro]

desperado is severely overperforming for how safe it is, I fully expect fatshark to bite its legs off

[peak bloom]

stim supply teaches new players to use kits (meds and ammo)

[charred bronze]

it's only really new player friendly after you get both despo and vulture's dodge

[fast gust]

So like Ogryn currently?

[glacial gyro]

I don't think ranged Ogryn exists

[peak bloom]

[tropic crag]

ogryn can teach some really bad habits and reward them tbh, its like iron breaker in that regard

[teal nova]

Every class suffers until its synergies start coming online around level 15-20. HivesCum, unfortunately, was an especially bad case of this on launch.

[broken bear]

Isn’t that

Like

[manic wolf]

Sadge, no Andromeda visible tonight

[broken bear]

One of their whole trees

Do I pull the trigger and finish my arm sleeve

[glacial gyro]

Its more of a problem that their guns are ass

[manic wolf]

Yup, as I said, but it'll also ruin them for when they use other classes

[broken bear]

Sounds like a skill issue

[tropic crag]

lol its also regularly the most op and strongest version of oggy if we're being honest... but most of us don't like to play it because its so mindnumbing

[manic wolf]

Hell, its ruining a bunch of self-professed experts

[peak bloom]

my ammo gobbling achlys turret of an ogryn:

[fast gust]

So like every class

[teal nova]

HivesCum guns are great, fite me

[glacial gyro]

Gorgy is more of a turret, tbh

[tropic crag]

oggy can be a bit worse if they go shield oggy, they will get past auric without ever learning to play

[manic wolf]

Dual Stub Pistols MVP and no opinion matters other than mine

[fast gust]

So like every class

[manic wolf]

[tropic crag]

like you will still find oggy's today who will claim that if you dont' have a shield then auric is impossible

[hallow raft]

Hive Scum Jams
https://youtu.be/dv5Uk9UUx_M?list=RDdv5Uk9UUx_M

[glacial gyro]

shields are boring, I don't like them. I feel like they encourage safe play and my mindset is, the safest state you can be in is 'all enemies dead'

[manic wolf]

#ogryn-class message Ogryns are upset about losing grenade priviledges 😄

[manic wolf]

Banger. Love Pete + Baz

[fast gust]

I mean Ogryn nuke is now just a worse rocket

Straight up

[manic wolf]

I know its an act, but its much more like gangsters playing at rappers rather than the other way round lol

[tropic crag]

lol the nuke has always been pretty bad and more of a meme then a good pick , but oggy can take a meme pick and still carry hard

[hallow raft]

They are, quite honestly, the best rap duo.

[manic wolf]

Yeah, infinite sustain class go brrrr

[fast gust]

I'd disagree shield allows for more aggresion in your Ogryn, but since the game doesn't have a base scoreboard most shields don't realize how detrimental they are by playing it safe

[manic wolf]

Up there for sure, though Im still very partial to Lee Scott