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I mean they do have stun immunity on their stim but that kinda reaching
Rampage has stun immunity right or am i insane
It's everyone's job to kill everything
I don't remember tbh
I fucking hate getting stuck on fucking poxwalkers and getting clipped by 1 attack cuz of it
Yeah you can use stim to twbs an pbjective
i just care about the 75% melee damage lmao
And then completely railed
Thought it doesn't work?
For all my hp
or 100% with adrenaline
Drives me nuts
I'm not sure tbh
The contrast between shivs rampage scum and desperado vraks scum is so wild to me tbh
I hat getting stuck on downed poxwalkers that are hidden by the body pile
Did they fix Nimble or is it still broken
The new rockets is new best blitz
i luv ogryn dodge
Ok ok
Last I heard, only the aspd of that node works.
still broken
varlet you will trigger hardon
Right
hadron
said they were "looing into it" so...
WUT iff
Is vrak better then dual autopistol
taxe rampage tbh
We gave HS the dodge thru enemiez talent from Shieldmaiden ,,
ooooo?
Any updated builds since they shuffled the talents?
Maybe, I don't think i like it as much. Less mobile, better at range.
- hyper crit and hyper violence
Its defo good.
That would be coole . I think
this would realistically only work on psyker
And crit strings with vultures dodge is nice
i fuck with stealth dodges
this is great untill you get stuck inside an enemy.
Or mby if u have over a certain stamina cuz it doesnt regen while dodging
you cant explain dodging through enemies other than warp fuckery which psyker does
Throwing blinders at the ground cause I have been swarmed
Just dodge again
it gets snagged on lore cica
It's what makes it not a 100% get out of jail free card
If u get into shitty position and ur out of dodges u die
Same like w shieldmaiden
i dont think lore fuckery mattered when they made desperado use 0 ammo habibi
Cuz SM was vry squishy if hit too
telefrag crushers
Just dodgeslide all the same
classic
slippery customer fan when they realize overhead aren't melee attack
If efficient dodges remain u may dodge through them
or ogryn's BLO keystone
Feel like that would be balanced
they swapped the talents so that if you dont want to have the useless sticky hands, you have to take an extra point 🙄 melee builds suffer with this swap
"We wont reset talents this time!" but i have to redo it anyway lmao
I mean I don't think it was really a lore thing for maiden either
what is blud on about
Also yah no lore rsns rlly 2 prevent it Yam
We have slippery customer
Desperado and Pickpocket
burst of energy is right there
burst of energy is right there
Every1 on atoma is
A) strapped
B) loaded w ammo all the time
damn bro think he's me
tbf
I would be on atoma
burst of energy is right there
Waaahahaha !
That beats making entire builds from scratch for other people, apparently
this is the problem. it's either a "you can never ever corner me" or "I got stuck in the weird bounding boxes at the end of a burgles tail and cannot move" nothing inbetween.
Also why not just take Burst of Energy?
I like how much damage the class does but I do think it could use a little extra toughness regen
stun immunity is incredibly good on melee don't know why you wouldn't take it
being quirky idk
Yerp and that's fine, cuz it's not the latter situation all the time - poxwalkers, groaners, and bruisers LAYING ON THE FLOOR, FULLT STAGGERED should NOT stop you from dodging
It does great damage but I don’t think it’s at such an insane capacity that it should be as squishy as it can be sometimes
It rewards skillful dodging with more fun melee
Instead of stun immunity u get a higher skill risk v reward by dodging through chaff
Wver tried walking over a pile of corpses?
all 3 scum builds have better personal damage output than an inferno psyker imo
what blessings are we recommending on the crowbar?
even stimm supply "support" scum can easily outdamage an inferno psyker through crusher/boss damage
Yeah dps is king but atm every other class isn’t really that far behind Scum atm
and it's only close because they give +20% strength to that very same psyker xd
Thats not what i mean
At least from my testing
Inferno psyker does need some buffs, getting easily outdamaged by a support build
+20% strength and attack speed to the whole team tbh
Yeah inferno isn’t really a bar to set
hopefully when techpriest is anounced it will be more a walking support tank
It’s been struggling for a while
stim cd can be mitigated by blackout into a horde
and blackout is fucking infinite
techpreist aint coming bruv
Eh I’m hoping for a long range gun class like veteran
We don’t need ANOTHER tank
The latter half of this statement is one I agree with. you should be able to walk over poxies and things who are knocked over (size dependant) and when they get up they either have to roll off to the side or stay on the ground while you're on them.
actually crazy how better it is compare to like shredder
If
they are lmao
Ogryn and Arbites are enough
2 dark heresy ttrpg classes
fatshark devs when they wanna make a game featuring hobos n shiet and people demand terminator class
Techpriest was never mentioned by fs
It’s at a point where we have two giga tank cc machines
well get either assassin or techpriest as the next class if we look at the ttrpg origins
Or adept!
It doesnt have to be a famn priest
Can't forget adept
its 1000% gonna be another lesser known character
It can just be a foot soldier
Not a tech adept nono
scribe gameplay holy
From adeptus mechanicus
People literally made it up and then got mad about it
Tbf Arbites are already quite well above the other classes privilege and gear wise
I do think mechanicus representation in the cast would be neat
and hive scum are on tabletop equivalent to a tactical space marine xd
I’m gonna give a truth nuke
and arbite was basically pushed on them by gw if that interview summary i read is correct
since they're cartel captains
thats why making it was ez
its extremely obvious
GW forces arb, GW refuses to sell cosmetics for arb. I believe that. That's GW mentality.
A mechanicus esc class IS coming and will come somewhat coinciding with the release or Mechanicus 2
GW wanted a joint release of lex imperialis and arbites to promote the killteam
in reality they just wanna make normal ass dudes
if zealot came out now people would be like waaaaaaa???? normal dude with sword???? waaaaaa
This
Exactly why I just said that
how about your adept these nuts
wuh
as far as i know they wanted a pet class
It was both
a whopping 3 models for the minis too
Why in new mission it says were suppose to be helping a tank and I never see it whole time
theres a big mechanicus push
@main trellis funny, it does have an impact but is quite small compared to other weapons like the dual pistols
Don't forget GW killing off fan projects as well
This
mechanicus 2 dawn of war 4
Yep
not looking
a new horus heresy model line
yes but they basically worked very closely with gw and gw gave them all the blurprints and stuff so its not exactly the child of fatfish's creative minds 
GW is the devil
Holding this universe hostage
thought blood cult assasin got roped into zealot shroudfield, or are you talking about a different assasin?
i mean its arbys its how they work
Oh well
James Workshop how could you murder my wife and dog
I mean it’s their IP
Even though I hate what they are doing they have more then the right to do so
I thought it would show it self when the person says they are blowing up the wall for us but it just exploded the walls out of nowhere
If GW was a different company Warhammer 40k would be a lot more successfull and known.
if u look at every none arbite clas
vet = normal ass dude but army man
zealot = normal ass dude but angry
psyker = mentally ill dude
ogryn = oversized dude
scum = roided up dude
they just wanna make dudes
Idk man, it is as successful as it's ever been.
the tank is itrally right above you on the trenchline when you do that btw
law dude
Ok mr brand manager professional
like he's right there
GW makes a fuckton of money off 40k now
Its a really niche hobby lol
admech would be tech dude
Im look next time I only played 1 time so far
You are prolly a real fckn nerd if you like 40k me includet
“Ermmmm my jobless self would run a multibillion dollar company better”
the ttrpg of dark heresy has
adept
arbirator
assassin
cleric
guardsman
imperial psyker
scum
techpriest
sister of battle
battle sister
grey knight
Tbh; even on brautos its enough and they have the longest reload from full auto weapons (3.20s, uzis have 3.00s reload)
Better to reduce spread on uzis & increase dmg on brautos 
NO IT IS NOT
Compared to ACTUAL niche stuff?
Iirc they earned in the billions last year? This is a company that was nigh dead decade and a half ago, like on the verge of bankruptcy.
I remember the era of "we make models not games" GW
I do have a job and absolutely would lol
since it isnt a dark heresy origin
Holy discord moment
Uzi dont need less spread they are already good
if youre talking about the tabletop yes
ok if the next class isnt grey knight im gonna "make my voice heard"

Fwiw they defo also pulled from Only War
“I work at McDonalds so I would run a billion dollar company better”
U treat it like im commanding a spaceship lol
I cannot
Theres nothing to it
idk, i feel i want that faster reload more to keep desperado running, im already sprinting into enemy faces anyway, why better spread if enemies already fill my crosshair with their faces?
sororitas and grey knight are expansion books for dark heresy
This is bait
I pray it is
but 40k and warhammer as a whole has far expanded beyond just the tabletop
K
dont care grey knight class or else!
I'm ngl if a SoB or SM hit this game I'm uninstalling it
Considering no one else has responded to you I assume you’ve been blocked by everyone here
the director straight up said no marines ever as playable characters
Why no SoB?
SoBs are a class above baseline humans
SoB is very marine adjacent
it wouldnt be different to zealot
i could run gw better i'd instantly make it uhh greatsword 40k instead
i mean it would
they'd just be zealot the sequel 
Wouldnt a noviate be pretty low for SoB
bigger stronger faster ect
they'd literally just be a better zealot in every way, even thematically
Why not scout marines? Does anyone read the lore anymore?
and if theres a full sororitas force coming to atoma theres a daemonic incursion most likely
They're just marines but women and i do not want the power armor club ruining my dogshit person fantasy
tell them twin
neophytes are still marines
they're not marines by women
sorry scout marines all shot dead
and they wouldnt be different to ogryns
Look it’s just GW keeps forgetting Ogryns are almost space marine tier
they're just really advanced baseline humans
SM are not that insane
but yeah i agree
sororitas have the black carapace
i dont think gw forgot our ogryns are basically unstoppable
baseline humans in a 40k game having all the spotlight, more of that please
I am aware of what they are in lore but thematically theyre the girls power armor club to the boys power armor club
SoB in Darktide would result in every Zealot being smitten 
psyker would be outright killed along with scum
Non Darktide wise Ogryns are still SM tier
if you thought fanatic was zealous
i mean our ogryns are comically strong so yeah
Also yes 
like way past that
Idk i half expect SoB just cause Adeptus Mechanicus and SoB are the two base Dark Heresy classes still not in the game
And again the Nurgle Beast feat is far above anything a SM could do
you know when u think about it ogryns are really funny
every single other class is just human with a flavor and then u have an ogryn which is basically an equal to a marine in pure hand to hand strength 
A SM is getting FRIED by a Plague Ogryn
I would be very surprised if we get SoB im not gonna lie, thats a power level above even Arbites an they're already a little out of place in gear
idk all our classes are comically powerful
they're not
they equal them in raw strength but raw strength aint the only factor
sister of battle are a dark heresy expansions with their own ruleset
that's just gameplay being funny haha
theamtically they're all normal ass dudes
Who tf is Xing me
Read the lore
Killing MULTIPLE Beasts of Nurgle is a disgustingly insane feat
SoB are in blood of martyrs and like GKs they're meant to be played as an entire party, not an addition(cause both classes ruin the games narrative for mere mortals)
They did mention with the class rework that the stealthy side of the Zealot tree was based on deathcult assassins.
Oh it’s the clown
well see what fatshark does
but yes
thematically they're the best of the best at level 30
at lvl 0 they're normalish dudes
cleric and assassin were bundled into zealot
Darktide is a game where you're probably the best of the best in terms of strike teams but so many died to find you
yea lol
Yeah but even still Darktide REALLY stretches it
again not my point, im not talking about power level, im talking about them as people
they're all just normal baseline humans
Battle Sisters are, Adepta Sororitas was base game (dont ask)
Oh yeah 100% lmfao
im gonna ask
Ogryns are stronger often… they are just nerfed by being dumb.
teehee
yeah if our human classes are already dealing with the levels of bullshit havoc 40 throws at us i can only imagine what a space marine would be able to pull off
idk how these guys are baseline humans they're completely insane
Oh wait i might be dumb
They are the equivalent of giants in warhammer fantasy, big n dumb
It’s a writer by writer thing
Is that mean grey knight and battle sister is next
hell yeah
Imagine we gave ogryns a gym
People here comparing lore power Levels to Game play power Levels absolutely laughable
READ
A SM can beat a base one in combat by skill but can also get ripped in half
That's all I ask FS, no power armor classes. Idc what else you do, really.
i just dont talk dt's gameplay as lore accurate tbh cause its goofy at this point
its just gameplay liberities ya know 
i should slap you even more silly than you already are
not taking the gameplay as accurate is just the way lamer option
Reading isn’t a capstone 
If it’s just lines up giving haymakers, no armor… my money is on the ogryn
its just not interesting to wave away most of the game
Add armor and being able to actually fight? Space marine
Oh yeah no Ogryn takes that lore wise
this is kinda the issue with zealot rn. The og class trees feel like they're supposed to stradle a couple of these "classes"
the vet can be omega giga powerful killing 1000 specials with 1 plasma shot
He's still a normal ass human
in comparison the ogryn is well an ogryn
Plague Ogryn could wipe out multiple marines
Why did they add SoB in two seperate sourcebooks thats crazy
girlbossed too hard
Beast of Nurgle could maybe kill a full squad of marines with the plagues before they could take it down
Thr mistake you guys are making is trying to powerscale a setting in which there is no defined scale.
they had armoured and geared up ogryns in 30k and it's forbidden tech by M41 cuz it was broken lol
its kinda like games being "it was just a dream lol" tbh i mean seer is like that but even they dont truly believe its a dream
Yes but consider
I’m stupid
this
Because SoB like GK are meant to be played as an entire party because their combat skills ruin the game if other people want to play mere mortals
Same issue black crusade has with marines
if u wanna take the gameplay as lore accurate then the original vision is darktide 1.0 gameplay where spawns were way lower and player power was way lower 
it fits with the whole reject bla bla bla theme
well that was months ago in game time
ALSO they have a different ruleset for narrative content
and playing as normal baseline mfs
Why is rannick threaten us with death when we kill the whole ship worth of ppl every mission
we've had a lot of experience in that time
Havoc is canon because of mortis trials
they legit cant interact with the ttrpg narrative
Lmfao
this shit right here.
cuz he solos
Because we are criminals
he's not impressed
erm actually havoc specifically is NOT canon
And if he fuck up, we die
rannick solos
cause its stinky... (i am biased)
But we can boss fight him and win
rannick can beat goku btw
Morrow solos
morrow is a low B-26
If he dies, the mouringstar dies
rannick clears
I just want Rannick's revolver as a usable weapon
Jokes aside we only do mortis trials because we became havoc Forged in the eyes of dukane lmfao
morrow with 2 duelling swords is galaxy level
Question: have you used the brautos? do they feel good on the infinite dakka class? i have tried the TriBarrel shotgun with decent effect, but didnt tried that weapon family (also chain axes, still have to get a good roll of those)
gang we are NOT overthrowing the ship of a respected rogue trader and part of a fleet belonging to an inquisitor
fr? 😨
we would be hunted down and killed
i kinda thought havoc lead to nothing honestly
anyway the appeal of darktide is showcasing normal (possibly cracked) HUMANS
not marines not sisters not other giga op famous characters
trvke
Maybe they will add mision for that
Looks at Arb
we are currently mortis operatives which i asume is the highest rank were able to recieve on the mourningstar
Yea Darktide is “let’s see how the crackheads do!!!”
Cuz this is edgehammer 40k
It kinda did lol but that was a lore tidbit
You get the training to become mortis operatives because of havoc
So... havoc 40 is a Canon thing that happened
A mission taking place on the voidship would go hard tho
Live footage of Morrow on Armageddon https://youtu.be/bOqbEOxtwVc?si=t5qS0eW6pAqD2kJ6
arbeetus is still a human
seeing as mortis trials is a test of your psyche
thats morrow at minimum power
Ive wanted one forever
because he's a tsundere
Like
space hulk mission
Arbites is just a space cop
Sure, but they're also kinda an elite unit as far as humans go
The ship is boarded and we have to throw out the invaders
leave screentime for thez normal humans u augmented freaks
It'd be cool to have ai teammates
kill 7 billion heretics
the dog is more impressive than arbites
He’s a cop who got an internal investigation and this is his punishment 😹😹😹
Its already fast enough & less spread = you land more shots at 15m range; otherwise, together with recoil, you miss more
So bent copper then 
I want ,, starbuckz .
Is hive scum the only class not forced to be here
How does warhammer 40k have better police accountability than irl…
Course you fuckin do
that's fine and still fits the "human mf" critieria
also like i said seems like gw wanted it to be in the game more than the devs themselves 
@compact oyster slave . Go get me quadruple shot grande soy mocha . Naow .
they're basically forced cause otherwise their home explodes to cult
Yes they do feel good; a nice option - even the infantry autos
will give it a try, feels weird but will test run and gun with it
I think there being paid to help
the rotters are hurting their business
But also, Scummer is the only class that enjoys being there
dolla dolla 🔥
anarchist does it for free
Bounty Hunter is defo getting paid
i wanna know how sharp that sword is for cutthing through tank treads lmao
They comment on it
Scum is here for fun and money for drugs 😹
It will be age old discourse between which is more of a driving force in humanity
anarchist just having fun
Religion or money
money
Be Nurgle.. be rich..
money
Thats the duelling sword
U pick..
its definitely money
get it yourself shorty
money clears
Spitz at u
even religion is just money
Hence why Scummer is the most relatable character 
I cant reach the counter
religion serves money
Anyone pick the Yorkshire accent female hive scum voice? I think it's the outlaw
technically hivescum is the only class that is forced to be here they live on the planet with no way off. the warband could have just fucked off.
oh i meant irl
I’m literally a scum
WAIT LMAO I COULD DO A SCUM COSPLAY 😭😭😭
Theres a yorkie Scummer? 
i like male outlaw
I picked the 1 that sounded like a 6'2 shredded out british weightlifter
he's funny asf
Hive scum quality of life actually went up when getting recruited
I picked the bounty hunter before that though
lmao defo
Yeah man, I haven't heard a single person using it in game yet tho
if yoou look at the intro its very clear that rannick made an agreement with the hive scum
outlaw is just there to do cowboy shit
they arent forced to be in the warband
War band gets shot, scum has cartels
do meth for the authenticity.
I might have to swap tbh, I went with male Anarchist because he's a fucking lunatic and its glorious 
but they do so anyway because out of mutual interrest
The scum were fighting and doing their own thing prior
Female Bounty Hunter is what i went with
Now they are allied with Rannick cuz Zola got bitched
RANNICK. that was an AWESOME idea!!! those crackheads will surely save us -grendyl
male anarchist is indeed peak
I prefer a similar but slightly different drug
Both Anarchist voices are great, prefer the female one but top quality VActing either way
My character is pissed 24/7
zola also probably being forced to use her prior gang affiliation
I mean the cartels have thousands of members soooo
In one of the missions theres dead purple hive scum but they look different then ours
I genuinely love every Scum voice
rannick would never fail
They're all good
erm
those are just water cartel grunts
were also able to be water cartel
I love me Scouse bounty hunter lass
I love ogryn and scum interactions
omfg stimm supply is bugged again. CD doesnt regenerate after use T_T
"PAYDAY"
THANKS FS
I started as water cartel
but that wouldn't have been an option if Grendyl didn't want to be here.
technically the hive scum u play as is an enforcer, they're one step above the average cartel goon
?
I miss those days, but also I suffer too much after a night out nowdays. Though nothin like stomping it out in a muddy field for 12 hours till the genny runs out of fuel, ahhh memories
Ohh ok I guess the leaders wear less armor
dependency increase cd regen
at 4 stack for every second it decrease ult cd by 1.4s
A third more nefarious fent.
i wonder if grendyl knows that rannick employed hive scum
I havent noticed that tbh
it isn't cd reduction
Same, my job technically can random drug test… I want to see color again
grendyl would approve
good question
anyone else get an issue with blackouts throwing all 5 at once?
grendyl is so hands off
grendyl seems like quite the radical
N
and doesnt show up at all in person
I heard it was weapon swap mod doing that but idk for sure cause I play vanilla
hard to notice in a real game but it does matter
I finished a missioned where I used stimm supply and it never came back... the CD is that long? I also dont run the 4 stack
Yeah, not worth the risk at that point
he could legit have 0 clue if rannick decides to keep that information from him
Its guaranteed weapon swap or one of those
that a legit bug
and lie by saying the administratum delivered a late prison barge shipment
Grendyl secretly a genestealer smh
i'm sure they have ways of knowing
grendyl is a tomogatchi being kept alive by hadron and the old dude
technically crate have negative cd when you're dropping it
Disable guaranteed weapon swap or one of the guranteed mods
more than one step. "high ranking cartel enforcers"
Apparently there's genestealer stuff in the new maps, and there's voice lines in the mortis trials that kinda allude to them coming back on ship iirc? I want the genestealer plot bro
I want to clear the mourningstar of bugs
water cartel will have a lot of gangoons but not everyone is cut out to be a real propah 'ard killah
If there so high ranking how do they have crazy person
nice thanks. found the update to fix it
Yeah in the final room when youre collecting those papers theres a genestealer logo in the corner of one
because being a crazy dangerous motherfucker is a good thing in that world
if you kill your competition
They've been mentioning genestealers for years now
Or whatev we do i forget ive done the mission like three time
crab gangoons?
the water cartel is putting something in tertium's water supply that's turning the fucking groxs gay
Was one of the original conversations between the rejects about Tertium's sister city
Based
a waste of a perfectly good grox
What's the penance for thief harness?
Do all the stuff
goons, gangoons, gangers, gangbangers. you dont know preem cyberpunk slang, choom? that's not very max nova of u
kill yourself
when you achieve everything, you can stroll around half naked, this is a big life lesson
After you
Do 35 acheivments out of hive scum not all
^
you mean "put some iron in your mouth and pull the trigger"

I love that the harness is orange tier lmfao
Hey Hivers! Is stun immunity any good? What counts as a stun in this game?
Hmm gotcha, had 48 and was confused
Its decent, and bomber grenades, being hit with melee attacks, toughness break stun from gunners etc etc
I mean auric storm survivor is orange
Specific acheivements that it lists
i'd go beyond saying it's decent tbh
Think you still get yeeted backwards by Snipers and Plasma Gunners tho
Gotcha. I had someone trying to tell me it was dog pounces and nets, which would absolutely break the game.
it is very much not those yeah
Yeah, it aint those lol
Nah thats not a stun
yeah those are water cartel guys
you can't get their exact uniform but you can def be in their colors
not sure how stun immuninty works with getting clipped by a dog though (ie knocked around but not pounced)
They also look like pox walkers
real
Big net
Disagree tbh
Ik it feels unthematic for people
But it would be gamebreaking
Ogryns should take no damage because they're wholesome chungi
Pretty sure it a meme
Isnt another class immune to dogs
ish
I've seen so many god awful takes in this discord
arbites is only immune because of the mastiff
cat reminds me of someone
does the damage stat actually matter for the needle gun?
You thinking what I'm thinking?
ogrny should just insta kill all human enimis amirite fellow chuddies
Starts with a D
does it start with a D?
Yup
Lol
deez nuts
Who
STOP LMAO
Lmaooo
Felt really good shooting the rocket launcher into a bunch of bulwarks and crushers in the distance and seeing all of them die instantly.
cat ping ainz they'll tell u about the DN build
from your guys' experience in H40, which performs better on scoreboard? needler or autopistols?
no cyber we are NOT doing this
im afraid we are
Needle for melee, autos for desp
darcy
Idk who is that
Zealot gets an oopsie every 8 seconds.
nvm then
iirc it only work on health damage
and not toughness
can't be assed to check
Tbf i don't think Darcy would tell you they're Darcy
correct
Giant enemy crab gangoons
doesn't really stop dogs most the time afaik
i be keeping it real
Ogryn is just so big to dogs that it looks so funny
doesn't proc on the dogs corruption damage either I believe
God dammit I just remembered where they moved sticky hands and I'm angry now
When the dog is on them
Don't
ogryn buff when
Don't usually run it so idk either, but if it works on health damage it'd probably trigger because of corruption damage.
Zealot's "stun enemies on taking damage" talent definitely knocks dogs away.
What even is this
Zealot need a buff
political stuff
zealot need buff yeah but they're not bad
rule 11
Ahh okay I think I know what that is lmao
either buff zealot or nerf everybody else
Zealot needs a more defined identity.
cyber forgot he isnt on insta
Yeaaaaa luckily they only piss test not hair! Also luckily fungi doesn’t get picked up…
its literally just a shitpost 
Maybe make their book they can use weapons during it
skibidi dom dom dom yes yes
i think the biggest problem with zealot rn is outside a single niche they get out done by other class lmao
It does feel like hivescum kinda sits in the niche zealot once occupied
the blitz are the funniest one
Love me some acute food poisoning
Buff Ogryn, give them pickpocket for ranged builds.
Not all shitposts are equal
Me a Martyr Zealot
because 2 out of 3 scum blitz is just better version of the 3 zealot blitz
it not even funny
"You get melee, and you get melee,.."
true it aint no 67
now community see
devs love everything in Zealot's kit
but hate Zealot
so every1 getz the zealot like tuoy
Probably too expensive to do hair
Well, Im gonna go out an get some beer, shouldnt have mentioned it last night 
except zealot..
blackout is just better stunstorm + knife
Book in general needs a rework.
Zealot blitz got btfo imo, arby has their flash as a weapon special, shivs have a knife throw, 2 blitz on scum are just better zealot blitz
Zealot is still tank to hive scum
chem is a much better fire nade
They love giving out zealot blitz
oh and blackout is fucking infinite
Shivs having the entirety of throwing knives blitz built in but arguably more useful is a bit nuts
and can regen itself
In this day and age? No.
Download more.
yeah
Zealots buff were lost cause the devs spent all their money on Umamusume
Yeah, throwing knife but it applies tox without tox traits is fucking bonkers
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I dunno them not killing instantly has fucke me up a few times
I want to fuck the horses
and they're harder to aim
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Even the "i one shot bosses" niche feels gimmicky
blackout
Like it isnt as if PS vet has a long boss ttk or something
unc can you run back what you said
Idk, they gotta look at zealot man, class needs some love.
ps vet have good boss dps but ps is not very safe
I agree, but if we cared about safety we wouldn't be in scum chat
Is what fire nade should have been for a long time
scum is safe though
Also not having to hit headshots for 1hko
you have so much mobility on your good weapons
For us? Maybe. For the average DT player? Lol.
The yakuza gonna fucking kill you man
Istg 90% of Darktide players dont know the dodge button exists
I genuinely have no fucking idea what the horse game is but people in pop culture seem to love it
it's amazing
True, I guess the Zealot blitz does kill more quickly in some cases since it's not a DoT and it seems to have more range and definitely more ammo but beyond animation cancelling it's almost strictly worse
some gacha game is all I know
Gacha game with horse girls racing each other. Its like monster rancher but with horse girls and racing instead of fighting
I'm not even sure i knew that tbh
How do we get shiv throwing knifes back?
Or how to block and push
Why is it so popular
kill elites
Like why did this gacha game explode
Backstab kills or melee kill on elite and specials
funny horse girls
👍
OH MELEE KILLS
pickpocket brainrot is real
Backstab or elite/special kills.
Thats why I never get back then
Addicting gameplay loop. You do career mode to try to train up your horse girls to be as cracked as possible as a runner over a three year career
Is there a glue factory in it?
what is brochacho posting
freak
You get 3 back on ogryn kills
I see, I think.
The horse girls are based on actual horses which is crazy
also whats even crazier
I just like the animes tbh i haven't play the game
Like Haru Urara rip
||the bust sizes of the girls in the game are based off of their chest muscles||
Thats crazy
big if true
i swear to god jesus christ and the holy spirit im not lying
gacha,, 🥀
I like Stimm Supply, but it's still so buggy.
Sometimes it gets stuck in your hand, sometimes it instantly refreshes cooldown, it's weird.
Good anime adaptation and legions of fanartists
it instantly refresh cd if your stim refresh cd
People go crazy for gacha
whyyyy
Me who has a gacha pfp
also there apparently a bug where your crate can be on infinite cd until you die
wuwa?
cosmically boring genre of game
ZZZ
Well, yeah...I don't think I somehow got my stimm back in literally like 2-3 seconds.
limbus tbh
what her name uhh
can't be asses
its the woman with the staff
Astra Yao lol
hoyoslop
Oh, so like how Arcane convinced people to try league lmfao
The ultimate gatcha is the coin flipper on google.
if only they have apho gameplay in zzz like the old trailer lmao
pure evil
Apho?
Fuck the police
apho?
Idk how league is one of the most played games in the world at any given point
post honkai odyssey
Kind of
LoL actually got also no new long-term players after Arcane lol
it's basically just dmc
So like Arcane if Arcane actually worked lmao
Tbf bro if you installed league after watching that show would you keep playing it
stockholm syndrome
didnt they get a dmc collab
but it is deeper than any other hoyo game gameplay wise lmao
and a really high quality one too
that pgr
Quitting league genuinely improved my life.
Theyre adding co-op next ZZZ update
My mental and physical health improved
and also every lol player ik and ik a lot think they the next faker
talking about the game like its cursed
Loved arcane, loved Tahm kench. I refuse to play league anymore.
(it genuinely is)
it is cursed
Is it not?
Idk I quit playing League years ago for other reasons lol
lol lowers ur score by a good -10
League is fun if you have a group and don't take it too seriously. Most people that play it start like that, have a blast and try to keep it going after their group falls off and eventually it turns to shit before they quit
not as bad as gachas, but still p bads...
Hence the sense of relief when they do
aura deficit
limbus sweep
permanent aura debuff
Idk why people hate gacha so much
I quit league when I realized no action in it brought me emotion. Winning, losing, pentakill dunks. I felt nothing at the end of a 40 minute timer besides "damn, I'm glad that's over"
Granted league is totally different than it was 15 years ago
because it is predatory?
limbus looked kinda cool as in the universe but it's still a gacha so u will be boiled
probably cause most of them are hella predatory
because there almost zero gameplay in most of them?
Yea but most game companies predatory nowadays idk lol
Unbench the kench
I have a TONS of criticism about limbus but gacha isn't one of them
most of them like the game because of chesticles and the bakery
considering you can get every single id and ego in the game by just playing
Hiving my scum Till i darktide
They feel like slots to certain people and once you realize that it just sucks.
The first time I stopped playing LoL was because it was wrecking my mental health and the second time was because I was having no fun
the actual gacha rate is kinda atrocious though
Tbh gacha games simply never drew me in
because gacha mechanics pretty much are always to the detriment of the player
yes
I only play gachas you can f2p tbh
pmverse
lobotmy is p cool
and library of ruina
also daily is basically 10 minutes
thats fair
I don't like gambling?
or 30 mins depend on what you do
theres some gacha games that release a paid version of steam with all contnet
Because gacha games are casinos
like that japan exclusive mega man gacha
Every last one of them
ZZZ dailies take less then a minute which is crazy
The loading screen takes longer
i like gambling but my city has real casinos with blackjack n hookers
Sure some of them take their obligations to be a videogame more seriously than others
But at the end of the day the gacha genre only exists as a way to market gambling towards younger audiences
And skirt regulations around casinos
Coffee
Scratch card
Shop
Done
Ez
Cause most of the time gacha involves rather… poorly dressed females for advertisement… and overall sexualization of characters
Also China
Dailies and streaks are meant to program an obligation to keep playing in the consumer
Absolutely wild to think "oh dailies only take a minute" while ignoring the massive anti-player issues baked into the design of gacha games
Thats like my morning routine anyway 
nope. Gacha exists for middle aged asians.

a friend of mine has told me that is something that may happen with limbus once it reaches the 1.0 release or something and we've made a deal that if it does happen i will buy the game
hi bath
guys does like, hyper critical even work or am i not understanding it correctly?
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That wasnt meant to be a point for or against it lol
If you deal more than half an enemies remaining health with a crit, hyper critical will kill them
it works. target has 999 HP. you crit for 500. boom dead.
So effectively your crits deal double damage IF that doubled damage would have killed them
Id argue ZZZ is the most fair gacha
Hypercrit is uhhh, kinda mid imo
Works for me. How are you trying to utilize it?
Gambling
It benefits from being mihoyos least popular gacha so they give a lot of free shit
Least popular?
- it does not help with ogryns
With those character designs???
does it calculate total health pool or remaining health??
Agreed. It’s better than Hyper-Violence but it’s mostly a tax node.
ha gambling
remaining.
Well, partly, but you're also competing with Hyperviolence and thats just a fight its not gonna win
Remaining
check this 100% crit chance
Of the main three. Genshin and Honkai both make a lot more
It is not better than Hyperviolence lmao
I ain't gambling I'm just WINNING
Thats one of the strongest skills in Scummer's tree
nope it seems not to be remaining, i hit a mauler that was on like 3% hp with a crit and it survived
i hit it for 500 dmg
Depends; crit weapons like both, normal weapons like violence
Combine both if you use crit weapons
Melee or ranged
It’s basically just a node for ranged build to have some melee prowess
melee or ranged?
But tbh i haven’t noticed much difference from hypercrit; hyperviolence tho i did
ranged
Tbh I was using tac axe and I found hyper crit didn't make a huge difference
Hyper crit doesn’t work on ranged
it only works for melee attacks
critical strike should be for both right?
It's a melee talent
Works only on melee.
Just doesn't tell you that
P'much yeah
what??? Thats trash omg i thought it was for ranged too
Critical strikes are melee only
I'm sure it's been asked an answered three hundred times by now, but I'm late to leveling.
Quick and deadly.
Is it close-range ranged damage(excluding melee) or all close-range damage(Including melee)?
Critical hits are both
People really don't seem to understand how consistantly hivescum can crit with things like tac axe and shivs
yeah if only you use it on taxe
This is the most fatshark shit I stg
or combat blade
I've been toying with hypercritical and the chainsword but it doesn't seem to work well
Hypert critical with violence proc IS glorious. What doesnt die on one Hit doesnt survive the second
You shouldnt imo. Hyperviolence depends on overkill damage, and as Hypecrit results in an overflow of 0, you're not benifiting from HV, just that one enemy is dead
They explain this nowhere lmfaooo
Ime tac axe is killing most man sized targets in the same amount of swings with or without HC
isn't that like fixed this update
Like I'm one shotting poxxies anyway, rarely it'll net me a gunner kill or something
I can't decide what stim path or paths to choose ;-;
that's not a bug that's just the skills not working together
hyper critical will kill an enemy exactly
Excluding melee
matter more for cleave damage distribution
hyper violence needs overkill to give a damage boost
Always ability cooldown and strengt goes well with everything
basically free up bm so you can use shred + headtaker
Thx
All. Even affect explosions and dots
i really dont understand why such a core melee talent is deep inside the ranged tree.
Alright!
Its close ranged damage, not close-ranged damage if that makes sense
It is all damage within 12.5 meters
Kuli guide disagrees
literally right at the keystone like, why am i building a melee crit execution for a full ranged build??
concept of talent "tree" are stupid
Idk man, I get why Cole doesn't run HC with Taxe tbh
Yeah.. and with Hyperviolence you start one-hitting stuff in a dense horde you wouldnt otherwise be one shotting, and because of BM, you're one shotting like 4 ragers at a time. Hyperviolence is just cracked as fuck
Really?
Am I stupid or are only 28 skill points being used here?
Yeah… maybe for very high crit chance weapons but for example for Dclaw? It feels like its not doing much (yet to test in havoc tho; its funny to not smack a mauler twice but i dunno if thats worth it; if it would work on crushers/bulwarks it would have been peak)
also there a few one worth picking even on melee scum
u want the 3 talent every 5 level system ?
r u cwazy
2:1 says Melee included
Proof provided
This pleases me
Lemme test it
different thing
significant improvement from the pick one talent system
I unironically kinda prefer VT2 careers and trees cause DT classes feel like most of em get boiled down to "a good build"
It improves cleave ability by triggering on subsequent enemies hit with the crit attack
Does Fatshark not know that close ranged and close-ranged are two different things
I think you misunderstood what i was saying lol
Dclaw would still be better with HV, tbh, most things are, but if I had to pick something to use with Hypercrit, it would be the knife
No that's just how metaslaves talk
I just mean there are no defined "tree"
especially after class rework
ogryn still kinda have it
Do both
As above, HV is actively harmed by HC
Ig, I'd have to go point hunting in build to run it tbh and I don't want to do that again rn
HV relies on overkill, HC doesnt give any overkill
People will see your tree , nitpick 3 nodes, saying it's unusable. meanwhile you get clear after clear with it
this still happens?
shred + headtaker tbh
shred give you much better cara dps
i feel like HS has a decent range of viable builds
Played many games with HV and can confirm its good cause it works for every enemy
HC works only for human sized and those are not much of an issue for an experienced player on a melee spam build such as rampage
No, you're thinking of the toughness non-interaction with HC, that was fixed
Only my build is approved by the God-Emprah
and on scum you get so much attack speed and damage anyway mixed horde isn't a problem
Clears on what?
mind reading?
are you a psyker
reporting you to inquisition
Auric, havoc.... uh this game needs raids or something
Raids are a thing
Ehh, its kinda just not much of a difference because you already get upwards of 50% crit on TacAxe from Scummer existing and cleave is more important 90% of the time
I get clears on heresy
i like how this wording contradicts itself. Read Vulture's Dodge: "ranged critical strikes" and then hyper critical JUST says "critical strikes" which IMPLIES that critical strikes count for both, as that is a general "any kind" of critical strike, and then it WOULD specify if its important that its ranged or not.
Conclusion, total bs, anyone agrees?
Besides, at this point who isnt just evaportating armour walls with zook anyway 
Auric is sleeping tier for me atp unless my 3 idiot teammates are actually going to force me to pick all 3 of them up repeatedly ime, I do personally prefer not having dead nodes in havoc builds and with how FS words things it can be a built difficult figuring out what's dead and what isn't
i mean getting like 80% crit is a lot of damage
since crit basically double your damage
You new here? We've been bitching about FS wording since VT1.
Does hyper critical not work on melee?
How is db shotgun on desperado
Cleave doesn’t matter that much for tac axe
I wanna do scout build
well it only works on melee. But not with stuff like the chainsword that deals DOT damage and stuff it has to be a single hit it seems
Yes, it is, but its not the same flexibility. BM/HT is BiS for TacAxe over the course of a game, Shred is good on Chainsword, if I was gonna stack it up that much, i'd go with that over TacAxe
Doesn’t all Taxe builds run bromentum for cleave?
Most of them yeah
Bm is literally just free cleave and a free damage multiplier because HV..
Aw it doesnt work on guns :(
Tax is pretty cleavy
Critical strikes refers to melee crits. If it was both ranged and melee it would be critical hits.
I’m not certain I realized dots could even crit
well the chainsword special is technically a dot
I can crit
thats what i was referring to
Let her crit
If you throw me at someone it is 100% crit chance
nah my point is it contradicts itself literally in the same segment of the tree, that is totally not clear to anyone who reads it and doesent know fatshark wording.
Fs tooltips are always to be scrutinized
tooltips doesn't do ij justice
I dont even believe what things say anymore, theres no consistency
Someone will dig through the code and compile a list
For the longest time I didn't realize deathspitter stacked
Why doesn't it say it stacks? Other blessings do
Idk, Fatshark
No respite also
Yeah, cause stagger isn't one thing, theres like stages to it iirc
Loaded into a mission, spawned in the middle of a pox gas ocean, died before I could even process where I need to run to get out.
Thank you Fatshark, very cool.
There was gas fucking everywhere.
It’s really low cleave, has cleave damage distribution cap for its heavy atks, and is almost entirely dependent on BM to hit multiple enemies at once
they need to make a sapper for darktide
Bm?
also what does Like the Wind do? what tf even is sprint dodge angle?? WTF is a sprint dodge???
i think this would fix the game
By far my favorite was vicious slice on the devils claw, tooltip said dmg, crab reports it only does stagger. So they fixed the problem! (Changed the wording instead of making it a good blessing)
let me make barricadez