hivescum-class

[mighty belfry]

Was Stimm Supply Scum

[sturdy linden]

[mighty belfry]

This class is fucking crazy when you know what to do with it

[zealous basin]

Does stim supply still not get the effects of it if it's on cd

[mighty belfry]

Yes. And that's an intended function I'm pretty sure.

[zealous basin]

Unfortunate

[novel oracle]

Havoc? Were you playing with a purg psyker?

[tight rock]

I felt the power of your stims

[mighty belfry]

This was a fucking Hi Intensity Atonement

[sturdy linden]

max speed and strength baby

[spiral horizon]

it speeds up your dodge so it reduces your dodge time but it increases your dodge linger time iirc (though this will not help you against ranged enemies)

basically the talent description is a bit iffy

[sturdy linden]

💪

[mighty belfry]

I need to take this into Havoc

[novel oracle]

Oh true that lines up

[broken bear]

@high gull ur built like a Moscow mule cup

[plush cove]

Nimble moment

[novel oracle]

Those shrines amps the total damage

[zealous basin]

Why would you really care about the low cd if you're not getting the effect

[sturdy linden]

how are the damage numbers so high, was this havoc?

[zealous basin]

Unless ur using the bomb

[mighty belfry]

I have never had this much damage in Auric before lmaoooo

[high gull]

How you gone talk

[mighty belfry]

Shrines spawn a lot of stuff

[high gull]

You built like a Ikea barstool

[broken bear]

My body tea idk what ur on abt

[mighty belfry]

A lot of fuel for a double barrel bean like me B)

[high gull]

https://tenor.com/view/death-laughing-lmao-death-laughing-funny-gif-11061475

[mighty belfry]

Also, pickpocket double barrel on stimm supply

Absolutely stupid.

[high gull]

You built like unemployment and smell like spoiled milk

[mighty belfry]

It's crazy what a little bit of creativity can create with this class

I love it so much

[sturdy linden]

I don't usually path that far left but I'll try it

[mighty belfry]

It's not even that far

I'll make a gameslantern for it

This is genuinely one of the most fun builds I've played in quite a while

[fast gust]

Don't know if I like boomstick desperado tbh

[plush cove]

played H40 a few hours ago, dual autopistols. Got more dmg than Psyker flamestaff and Arbi's shotgun, consistently (I dc'd 3 times). I dont want to hear ppl saying hive scum is a glass but no cannon class again xD. This was also in 200+ping

[broken bear]

Sorry broke bitch say what

[high gull]

Talking like you ain't a bum

Dia

Bolical

[fast gust]

Mind of I copy paste this to steam?

[plush cove]

dont mind

also, rocket launcher

goated

[broken bear]

Sorry my 5k paychecks hit

[high gull]

Still havent bought me a ps5

[mighty belfry]

Funny thing. I actually fucked up on the build for that run

[sonic pumice]

I don't feel that the class lacks damage, particularly gun scum, but I question it's caparace busting skills as well as it's melee prowess (it's more me not testing it enough yet, the skill uptime is kinda weird some games)

[broken bear]

Never dropped ur PayPal

[mighty belfry]

I was supposed to have Float Like a Butterfly and not A Tertium Welcome

[high gull]

I only use cash app

Paypal got too many mfs trying to snatch accounts

[sturdy linden]

how is this penance supposed to work

it's been stuck at 360 for a while now

even though all my stimms have 50% or more visc

[mighty belfry]

Take regain on the toughness side of the stimm

you also need to actually regen toughness. Not just use it when you're full

Which is really, really, really not a good way to do a penance.

[drifting heron]

I'm just skipping it

[main wagon]

Scum had to have at least one abysmally dogshit penance to grind

[mighty belfry]

Admittedly. It doesn't take long

[main wagon]

It’s the law of all classes

[undone sorrel]

honostly, im glad the chem grenade pennance isnt bad

[fast gust]

Ye just use a bomber to drop ur shield

And farm it

[mighty belfry]

But I do love how they made some penances private game only so that people wouldn't throw games for them

[undone sorrel]

i wish zealot's fire grenade pennance worked the same way

[mighty belfry]

And then made this penance

[ancient basin]

needler op

[sturdy linden]

that is actual dogshit

[mighty belfry]

Like what the hell does Fatshark think people are gonna do when they realize they actually need to take damage for this

[main wagon]

If you put it in your crate I’m pretty sure it counts any that is restored to teammates as well

At least that’s what I thought while I was doing it

[ancient basin]

solves 3/4 of all problems and has infinite ammo from pickpocket

[main wagon]

Makes it a bit less shit when you use it like a budget veteran shout

[mighty belfry]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a08eaf88-054e-4679-aa8a-3a67fad25ffa/this-is-dumb

[low harbor]

Get low on toughness then pop ur TGH replenishment stim (take both 25% replenishment upgrades)

[plush cove]

I was using chainaxe with bloodletter and shattering impact, with how mobile hivescum is, I didnt have any issue with Carapace-busting. Hell, I just BRRRRR them with dual macs a lot of the times, it works. Plus, I was playing stimm supply as like a tox mine, 7 chem tox stacks on them deal pretty good dmg.

[undone sorrel]

i like with needler that you can just like, tag an enemy in the distance once or twice with it then just go back about your business, don't have to devote as much thought to ranging down enemies

[mighty belfry]

@sturdy linden

[sturdy linden]

oh cool thanks

[main wagon]

One of the stim crate nodes also gives another 50% toughness so you can get 100% back, plus the lingering damage reduction

[undone sorrel]

also since needler has dogshit blessings its very easy to run +2 stam and stripped down

[woeful hill]

me when I lie

[mighty belfry]

isnt

[plush cove]

oh OHHHHHHhaHHahHHHH rocket launcher Oohoh

[mighty belfry]

stripped down a blessing

[ancient basin]

crit needler boss dps goes kinda crazy though

[undone sorrel]

as in like, 90% of its blessings are ass

[mighty belfry]

also, run n' gun needler is purty good

[main wagon]

With my luck your teammate in clip 2 would’ve been a regular poxwalker who ate the rocket

[sturdy linden]

no keystones

[main wagon]

But HOT

[mighty belfry]

You don't need it >:O

[hot moth]

no need to bother with crits
6 stacks a needle, 30 max stacks, hit it with 5 needles, no point in being stingy with 4

[sturdy linden]

I find keystoneless builds deeply disturbing

[ancient basin]

just proves how mid the keystones are I suppose

[mighty belfry]

Keystones unironically would take too much away from this build

[undone sorrel]

also on an unrelated note, does anyone else not like the bonesaw?

[plush cove]

happened once to me lol

[mighty belfry]

It's pathed a certain way for a reason

[undone sorrel]

like its a neat weapon, but i hate how it feels, very akwardly slow

[ancient basin]

I dont like the slight animation drag as you have to pull the saw free after every hit

[plush cove]

rocket launcher is such a good "oh shit" button now, love it

[ancient basin]

otherwise its workable but not stellar

[hot moth]

if you don't take huge amounts of cleave on it, or shock&awe with enough dps to guarantee consistent kills on trash, it's pain

[mighty belfry]

I implore, people take attack speed stims with bone saw

It is a world of difference

[fast gust]

'They've basically been calling people subhuman for not doing well with Hive Scum. There's a fine line between trying to market a product and flat out being irresponsible and misleading about what the product actually is. I get they have their job but they've done it so poorly it damages the reputation of both them for lying so badly and being so off the mark and Fatshark for giving them the tools to do it with zero oversight. Ironically this kind of mistake is exactly like a story of the messed up bureaucracy of the 40k imperium but that's not really something you should emulate in real-life.'

[undone sorrel]

oh yeah i put cleave on that thang the moment i could

[cinder harbor]

I wish the healing station for hive scum actually healed you instead of corruption

[hot moth]

kek

[lost bear]

someone really tilting at windmills huh

[undone sorrel]

will have to try that out

[fast gust]

Toxic tester theory is taking form

[undone sorrel]

loving how customizable hive scum is

[main wagon]

It breeds from jealousy lmao

[woeful hill]

it can

[wispy belfry]

man, what I wouldn't do to have hyper-critical affect ranged damage...

[cinder harbor]

Late 2026 for next class

[undone sorrel]

like i've been running attack speed on the smgs with desperado instead of cooldown

its so nice

can just mow down anything in front of you

[ancient basin]

more boolet

[wispy belfry]

it's such a fun node, but being melee only kills my enjoyment

[cinder harbor]

How? Im assuming no stimm equipped rigth?

[main wagon]

I don’t run cooldown stim anymore since I tried Fury II

[hollow mural]

welp, i hit 900k on a dammnation run with 190k being boss

[wispy belfry]

and it's on the ranged side of the tree too...

[undone sorrel]

did hyper-critical not get fixed?

[woeful hill]

no custom stims and find a green stim

can heal 4 people

[mighty belfry]

ye, med stimms

[cinder harbor]

Tyty

[wispy belfry]

the bug got fixed, but its melee exclusive

[undone sorrel]

ik they fixed the issue with it breaking the melee toughness talent

[woeful hill]

we used it in our H40 4 scum runs

[ancient basin]

I have found if I am using faster weapons (shivs) hyper critical is stronger than hyper violence for horde clear speed. It even benefits desperado down time

[undone sorrel]

doesnt say that in the description, that sounds like another bug

[mighty belfry]

I'm slowly starting to love the bone saw tbh

[wispy belfry]

its coded as explicit melee crits D:

[undone sorrel]

unless its some like, ttrpg wording bs with "strikes" meaning melee in specific

[ancient basin]

yeah, that is probably exactly the logic they used

who can misinterperet a strike as anything but a melee hit

sarcasm

not really worried about it being melee only though

[undone sorrel]

should i even bother grabbing sweet spot on a smg desperado build? big damage boost, but its not exactly an accurate weapon

[hot moth]

i wouldn't

th eonly situation is like beaming reaper/bulwark heads, and bulwarks are bulwarks so really it's just reapers

[wispy belfry]

It's requires a tax node, unless you plan for some melee

[undone sorrel]

not sure what to throw the skill point on then, had to take off nimble since its bugged atm

ill try vultures push ig

[sinful matrix]

whats bugged about nimble

[undone sorrel]

the time considered dodging bit is broken apparantly, saw a few vids of people testing it

[ancient basin]

sweet spot applies to melee hits too, so its still a good node overall in my opinion

[mighty belfry]

OKAY LIKE IS IT BUGGED? THEY SAID THEY FIXED IT

[undone sorrel]

seems to do the opposite

[mighty belfry]

AAAAA

[wispy belfry]

the dodge being extend by 25% means the dodge is over 25% faster

[undone sorrel]

did they fix it this patch?

[mighty belfry]

Ya they were supposed to.

[undone sorrel]

didnt see anything about it in the patch notes

[wispy belfry]

the 50% increase in dodge window is still accurate

[robust sable]

So, one shot from Needle pistol + Pocket Toxin Blackout will kill an Auric Mauler, which means a group of Maulers can be trivialised by just shooting each once and then throwing a Blackout, or Blackout to knock 'em down and then shoot 'em

[mighty belfry]

Or at least I was hearing Kuli said it was fixed.

I dunno. It felt just fine dodging today.

[sinful matrix]

Good to know

[mighty belfry]

Like, way better than yesterday actually.

[hot moth]

blackouts stronk

[spiral horizon]

what on earth

[undone sorrel]

if it did get fixed thats good, dunno why they wouldnt say anything about it in the patch notes

[random shuttle]

A mob of Maulers is also trivialized by ONE ZOOKA 😄

[fast gust]

Another great cult attack is brewing, when we hit American or peak EU hours things are gonna be ugly in the steam discussion

The misinformation and propaganda is hitting new levels

[spiral horizon]

oh, steam forums are a cesspit anyway

[fast gust]

Yeah but sadly Fatshark has to deal with that 33% mostly negative rating

[mighty belfry]

I will never take anything to do with Steam forums or reviews seriously after the review bombing for the class before Hive Scum was released.

[spiral horizon]

but also if people assume that playtesters have no oversight or are like, the only layer of testing and adjustment that occurs before release...That's really just indicative of having no idea how game dev works

[spark gyro]

Of all the things people could be mad about, they seem hellbent on picking the wrongest

[dawn portal]

but muh Skitarri

[manic wolf]

Steam forumites are the personification of "mad coz bad"

[undone sorrel]

honostly, i think it'd be funny if the next class isn't skitarri either

[prime musk]

do damage perks on the needle pistol increase toxin damage? for example will increased carapace increase the toxin damage to crushers?

[robust sable]

Yes

[undone sorrel]

just add 30 more voicelines/convos elluding to tech priests with the next character release and watch the fire burn

[robust sable]

As long as the Pistol is out

[spark gyro]

"Oh, this review looks big, I wonder what it says"

[robust sable]

Toxin damage will ramp depending on the +Damage of the weapon currently in your hands

[prime musk]

all I know about that guy is he called another darktide youtuber mossad lol

[undone sorrel]

isnt he like a darktide lolcow or something

[tender marten]

I know we love dunking on dummies and all but can we make an effort to simply not fucking ever again mention or bring up T*nner and never give him the pathetic attention he desires ever again please.

[spark gyro]

You know

[fallen arrow]

Yeah, blacklisted by Fatshark themselves

[spark gyro]

This review ain't actually half bad

[limber cradle]

God I wish

[spark gyro]

Though by now some of it is outdated or even wrong, like "certain enemies have massively increased radiuses on their attack" as if that was the class' fault somehow

[limber cradle]

Imagine how much easier life would be if we just hit the TL people with 👍

[spark gyro]

There's also straight up calling a dog a dog with "A lot of critical nodes to the class flat out do not work. Some do the opposite of what they are supposed to do, actively making you weaker. And if you don't watch a Youtube video or read a guide, it is impossible to navigate this." because we all know Fatshark has some weird issues with making mechanics clear

[wispy belfry]

Wait, the changed battering momentum to also being meleee exclusive, wtf?

[fast gust]

Also claims we are been scammed

[marble flower]

To be fair when I voiced frustrations here in this chat about hive scum feeling weak and struggling with it, the very first reply was "smells like skill issue" which only pissed me off immediately and put me on the defensive. So a lot of these negative reviews aren't lying about some of the toxicity. What's even more frustrating is that it isn't even skill issue in most cases, but rather not knowing how to build a new class. Most of the community is very helpful and encouraging and willing to share knowledge, but all it takes is one smartass trying to feel superior to sour someone against the class, the community, and the devs.

[fast gust]

Which is what is been parroted around now

lmao

[prime musk]

as a side note, I love we finally have a needle gun in the game. they're pretty cool in 40k but very niche so you don't see them in much outside of novels

[random shuttle]

If I wasn't so well adjusted and zen, I'd post a Steam Topic "Are you guys really that bad at this game?" and enjoy the clown farming

[mighty belfry]

Alright. I'll admit. That last point.

I do agree.

Why the hell are the new hairstyles only specific to Scum?

[spark gyro]

Also the part about Fatshark using the FOMO shop to fund the game and then us still getting paid content anyway

Which I will never stop being mad about

[mighty belfry]

Like that's actually a legitimate complaint.

[chrome storm]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/lG2iRwCqDOpyZkYp_?invite=cr-MSxaZW0sNDY1MzcwOTI2&v=9

did it

finally lol

[spark gyro]

Unironically most of Tanner's review is actually fair, from what I'm reading

[fast gust]

Build making is a skill so it isn't exactly wrong

The main issue is people are entrenched in their belief and rather than wasting 2 hours debating with actual data and video evidence and still ending up with a disagreement, it's easier to just point at the root cause

[spice cloud]

Idont like the perk position changes

[spark gyro]

Hairstyles, faces, and we still are missing some hairstyles from the base game as options

[lavish forge]

what cocktail ratio do u guys recommend for a friendly ganger build

[wispy belfry]

most of the time it is, if one can read past his inflammatory rhetoric

[spark gyro]

This hair straight up vanished from Fatshark's mind

[sturdy linden]

Do you know how difficult, annoying, and often pointless it is to explain to someone how they're "wrong" (quotation marks because it IS a pve game after all and feels trump facts when it comes to actually playing)

[spark gyro]

And it's like

Peak hair

[mighty belfry]

I think there's dissidents on both ends. There are the elitists that don't realize some people aren't adjusting to this class for good reason who just won't explain how it works to make it effective, and then on the other end there are people that literally will not stand for someone saying this class can actually work and will shoot down any actual feedback as to how it can work.

[lavish forge]

like to use with the funny silly med crate

[sturdy linden]

Maybe, but it's no one's responsibility to tolerate his verbal diarrhea

[mighty belfry]

This class is admittedly pretty divisive.

[wispy belfry]

for sure

[spiral horizon]

the community thing isn't really hive scum specific, and it's not really even a fatshark issue

[low harbor]

There’re a lot of body customization options exclusive to specific classes actually

[tender marten]

G*mers.

[wispy belfry]

his nature is only enjoyable if you in the in-group

[random shuttle]

The Gomers.

[mighty belfry]

I know that's the case with Arbitrator for sure.

With the face options and hair but

Honestly

[tender marten]

So sick of those fucken gomers

[mighty belfry]

Why though?

[low harbor]

Arb has like
1 unique hair style and 1 unique male face

[dull dagger]

I'm not defending it, but this is the nature of the internet. Fortunately discord has both block and ignore buttons

[mighty belfry]

It is genuinely confusing we can't get these options for all classes.

[low harbor]

I remember cuz their unique hairstyle is the jensen huang special lol

[ancient basin]

Depends on your preference of combat. lower viscosity stims allow for more booby traps to farm even faster chem sample stim cdr, which loops into the chem lab booby trap. higher viscosity gives a bigger buff to allies, but is generally lower value compared to booby trap looping

[mighty belfry]

Willam DaFoe face

[marble flower]

There is some skill involved in knowing the mechanics of the game well enough to make intelligent perk selections for sure. But it still helps no one for someone to be a smartass and mockingly say "skill issue" when they could be replying with helpful tips and info. I don't no-life this game and hadn't played in ages before coming back for hive scum, so yeah I didn't know exactly how the perks would interact and what would wind up being viable. That doesn't mean someone should try to shit on me for that.

[lavish forge]

any reccomendations for like, helping others? obv toughness but then like what, strength?

[tender marten]

Attack speed.

[ancient basin]

attack speed is my fav, hard to get attack speed on any class

[random shuttle]

The best part for me about this hilarious division is that Every Clique around Darktide believe themselves to Be the Right Ones and everyone else is a Toxic Circlejerk.

[lost bear]

to be fair this is not an issue specific to darktide, any nerd community gets this way

[tender marten]

I'm the only good Tide player.

[sturdy linden]

If you're going support style with crate, maxing the strength branch is a pretty good option. 2nd branch is your choice between speed and CDR depending on the team

[ancient basin]

and the toughness nodes for allies is only giving coherency toughness, which as a buff is not fantastic

[spice cloud]

Cooldown reduction

Is best imo

[lavish forge]

ah

[chrome storm]

I attack speed max,with stun/slowdown immunity

[marble flower]

Yes because I've done it for other games, but I'm still never going to try and make someone feel like a piece of shit to stroke my own ego, because I'm supposedly so much smarter and better than them. There's a way to tell people they're wrong without being disrespectful.

[spice cloud]

Scum allready has very high attacks peed

[ancient basin]

as a personal stim for rampage and desperado its great to cover your own ass in downtime

I should make a chem build, already locked in my desperado and rampage ones

[spice cloud]

Im aftaid ill break the game with rampage AND attack speed stim

[marble flower]

True. I guess I'm just trying to play devil's advocate and say that it isn't all that surprising that the review bombing is happening, based on what I've seen happening in the community. Elitists are showing their asses and as one would expect that puts many people off.

[limber cradle]

You running ammo jack or unload pathing into Vultures?

[fast gust]

The moment I explain things and get shut down by personal attacks, mention of x youtuber saying so or most people think so I am dropping it

I have lost my patience debating people on the matter long enough to know most people that drop such do not wish to learn.

Telling someone to incorporate more dodges into their playstyle is apparently dropping a skill issue nowadays

[mighty belfry]

It's good to express nuance.

[spark gyro]

I dissected this into a sort of feedback loop a couple times:

• Group A dislikes X
• Group B likes X
• By voicing their dislike against X, group A reinforces group B's defense of X because they want to prove it even more that X isn't that bad
• By voicing their defense of X, group B reinforces group A's dislike because they want to prove it even more that it is that bad
• No one wants to give anyone any ground, because being wrong is a humiliation and the more invested people are on their side, the bigger that humiliation is when they do end up being wrong

[lost bear]

there's whole ass papers written on this dynamic

[flat mist]

Run 11 stam on your equipment then rampage, adrenaline frenzy and stimm

[lost bear]

you can't convince people with facts

especially when things become identity (and that's a big part of why idpol has become viral /tinfoil)

[mighty belfry]

The human psyche is an odd thing

[spark gyro]

It's a horrible loop that stems from people's need to always be right, which means someone else always has to be wrong and there's no inbetween

[fast gust]

Or video evidence...

Or my excel sheet of averages

[spice cloud]

I allredy managed to break my animations without the stim lol

[ancient basin]

You have two ways to play your stims, double down or conservationist. I prefer conservationist (popping after your combat ability is on cooldown), as it gives me a more smooth gameplay loop. No need to hunt for mobs to kill if I can just choose when I am going nova

[mighty belfry]

And admittedly it's something every one can be guilty of if they're not aware that it's happening

[spark gyro]

I remember trying to convince people that Mass Effect Andromeda had redeeming qualities and wasn't actually unplayable garbage

[mighty belfry]

I know I'm guilty of it too sometimes.

[spark gyro]

Every single point I cited to those people was "irrelevant" and "not what Mass Effect is about"

[spark gyro]

It was so fucking frustrating

[sturdy linden]

It was so boring tho

Huge self own

[spark gyro]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1444017590748975125/1447795332225306736/togif.gif

[mighty belfry]

I feel like I'm reminded of the times I've tried to tout DS2 as a genuinely good game

[spice cloud]

Jo dont put steam on par with reddit wtf

[spark gyro]

drkslsiisotfs

[mighty belfry]

And getting completely shut down because it wasn't Dark Souls 1

[lost bear]

there were mfs on the darktide subreddit yesterday trying to stir shit about Reginald replying to Timorous Lunk

[random shuttle]

The joke here is that it works in reverse, too.

[spark gyro]

It's actually my favorite of the trilogy

[spice cloud]

I know

[ancient basin]

but for chem support build you can ignore both of those as it uses your stim to pop chem lab over and over

[spark gyro]

I recognize things others do better, but at the end it is my favorite one

[limber cradle]

Powerstancing>weapon arts

[spice cloud]

Just dont compare me to a redditor

Steam is cool

[spark gyro]

DS2 introduced the aforementioned powerstancing and tried other mechanics that freshened up the formula, even if it didn't always hit the mark

[ancient basin]

probably choose between adrenaline or dependency as a key stone

[spark gyro]

And I think that's something that people sorely miss when analysing games like that: it's not going to be perfect, but the effort and innovation can be still respectable

[lost bear]

how do you best farm Enhanced btw (regen toughness while on stim)

[ancient basin]

but again, have not experimented with chem lab and such, not sure if dependency procs off chem lab buff

[lost bear]

this seems like a goofy fucking penance

[limber cradle]

Stand in fire

[fast gust]

Play solo and stand on a bomber fire

[ancient basin]

play sub optimally, regen toughness with stim

[stone oyster]

This is a side-effect of social media.

People are not supposed to be in 24/7 contact with each other and react to every opinion they have, especially not if you dislike each other.

In my opinion Social Media is a brain poison to a degree, funny of me saying it on social media though.

[mighty belfry]

No game will ever be perfect because nothing is.

[fast gust]

This wouldn't be an issue if people had enough awareness that they are just moving through a small circle and not 'the community '

[random shuttle]

Wow, You are so wrong

😏

/s

[spark gyro]

And so we loop back to Andromeda:

• Its crafting system allowed certain unique modifications to weapons that might or might not work well
• The movement and combat feels the best it's ever been in the series
• The dialogue wheel is the clearest it has been in the series, even if still not a good system overall
• Interrupts now have text describing what the hell you're actually gonna do

But people are like "uhhh irrelevant cuz story bad so game bad"

[spice cloud]

Could also tank some ranged guys with tis but a scratch

[lost bear]

shoves you off a high rise building

[spark gyro]

And I want to throw a chair at them through the monitor

[fast gust]

I mean Veilguard has the best combat in a dragon age game

[marble flower]

It's a rough for one for sure as there's really not much reason to every build your stim for that normally. There's much better, easier to access ways to regen toughness that wasting your stim on that. But like others are saying, purposefully take damage and I guess pop stim with it specced into toughness gen right when your toughness breaks so you gain the whole bar back with stim.

[limber cradle]

You ever tried Tetris?

[mighty belfry]

"We have never been so united and yet, so divided at the same time."

[fast gust]

But lore wise it's an aberration

[random shuttle]

andromeda is bad because on that one planet you have to hold a button for like 3s to open /every/ door

[mighty belfry]

...You know what, fair.

[random shuttle]

Veilguard gave me brain damage.

[spark gyro]

Veilguard is another game I defend similarly to Andromeda, where I really enjoyed playing it even if the roleplaying part was pretty lacking

[ancient basin]

I think enhanced only counts toughness regen from the stim itself, so thats coherency regen and a flat 25-50%

[random shuttle]

I sued Bioware.

Won a sandwich.

[spark gyro]

Kadara door mod download speedrun any%

[spice cloud]

I refundet dragon age inquisition after the first dialogue

That shit is pityfull

[fast gust]

I love the lore too much, I finished veilguard but do not wish to replay it ever again, atleast without skipping as much dialogue as I can

[ancient basin]

dont quote me though, I just ran toughness stim for 15 games and got the penence, this was before i knew hyper critical was bugged

[random shuttle]

I played Veilguard and I could never enjoy it. Not even because I loathed the characters, designs or goofy cartoonization.

[spice cloud]

Too had the old dragon age games dont run on my pc anymore

[random shuttle]

But because the game is insulting me on every corner.

[stone oyster]

Yeah, with social media it is more important than ever to use ignore/block and isolate yourself from sources of "noise".

I just find it funny that this drama between 12 people is dubbed as drama and toxicity in the whole Darktide community. Kind of arrogant isn't it.

[random shuttle]

The moment I encountered a "Puzzle" where my moron Rook says I need to find the CRYSTALS to open a locked portal.

[spark gyro]

Social media has this thing where it gives people the ability to voice themselves on literally anything, and by giving people an empty space saying "write a comment" with a big shiny button to send the comment, people just feel like it's their divine mission to say things even when they have nothing to say

[random shuttle]

And all 4 crystals are hanging around the portal

I was like

yeah okay

fuck off.

[fast gust]

The more interesting thing is that the tribe rather believe that 11 people are toxic to their leader than been a mixed bag

[spice cloud]

Idk i dont even know about any drama nor do i care lol

[spark gyro]

As a big fat generalization, I'll say people just forgot how to shut the fuck up

[spice cloud]

This is a game discord not trauma dump channel

[fast gust]

That would be zealot chat

[random shuttle]

I also played Avowed.

What a waste.

[spice cloud]

Lmao

[marble flower]

Bruh counseling is expensive af so I gotta do it here in a video game discord channel

[fast gust]

It's better now

[random shuttle]

It's not.

[fast gust]

Allegedly

[spice cloud]

That is fair

[fast gust]

Idk I refunded

[light phoenix]

Trauma dump is Warp Resist, no?

[spark gyro]

I swear to Christ that Avowed is the same thing as Andromeda and Veilguard to me

[fast gust]

[spark gyro]

I'll die on the mid games hill

[random shuttle]

I would somewhat agree but not entirely.

[limber cradle]

I tried to play avowed and just hated how to character looked so much

[random shuttle]

The first 5-6 hours of Avowed

I was impressed.

[sturdy linden]

https://tenor.com/view/shut-up-pepe-pepe-shut-up-stop-talking-pepe-stop-talking-gif-11824891586612352590

[random shuttle]

Great VA, nice charas, lovely scenes.

[fast gust]

I rather play age of wonders or give the money to small double A devs like Fatshark

[random shuttle]

Solid story.

[spark gyro]

And the remaining 40?

[random shuttle]

But then we move to the next Locale

and it's literally Copy Paste with different assets.

[spark gyro]

God, I'll say Avowed felt like it was dragging on to me at the end

[random shuttle]

Avowed every biome has the exact same structure. Exact same quests. Exact same dynamic.

It's just 4 biomes of doing the same shit.

[spark gyro]

And I really disliked the upgrade system where you can even manipulate it to get better drops

[random shuttle]

I gave up on locale 3.

[spark gyro]

Avowed at the start felt like it was punishing me for experimenting, and I'll admit it didn't get quite better at that

[random shuttle]

if there's a surprise RPG I expected to be painfully MID but actually loved every moment

it's Outer Worlds 2

[spark gyro]

I installed mods like reducing respec costs

Oh, I still need to try that one

I'mma be honest, I really didn't click with OW1

[random shuttle]

OW1 was a great game demo

terrible game

😄

[spark gyro]

Did combat a few times and felt like I saw everything the game had to offer for that

And I'm really into combat

[novel oracle]

ow1 was fun for a time

ngl

[random shuttle]

OW2 for me fixes all issues of OW1

[spark gyro]

[candid flare]

Hero shooter mmos all have expirations dates

[novel oracle]

yeah it fixed me wanting to play it
no more issues!

[random shuttle]

it has the scope, the fun, the activities, same wacky world, lots of hilarious option

[charred bronze]

Not only this, but even good feedback will go unimplemented if it'll push timelines back too much, or runs counter to design philosophies too much.

[fast gust]

Tyranny is the only decent not turn based rpg

[mighty belfry]

Content Creator Effect, I guess you could call it.

[sinful matrix]

Pretty sure they're talking about Outer Worlds

[charred bronze]

Seen it dozens of times

[random shuttle]

In OW2 you can pick a personality at a start of a Bumbling Buffon who is in the game by accident

[limber cradle]

Did it fix "bad option, bad option, best option"?

[random shuttle]

and its hilarious 😄

[candid flare]

Well damn
I gotta try that one

[spark gyro]

"Overwatch? Man, I love Outer Worlds, what is your favourite character in Outer Wilds?"

[ancient basin]

@lavish forge running 3 in attack speed and 2 in strength lets me get my chem lab back as my stim buff runs out in the meat grinder with low add density

[candid flare]

Yes.

[limber cradle]

Gabbro

[random shuttle]

NPC: "Talk some big shit"
Your guy: "Dude I have literally no idea, I do not care, please let me go to Walmart"

[robust sable]

Mmmmm hazard stripes

[random shuttle]

But

of course

[spark gyro]

Vocal minority, some lads dub it

[random shuttle]

as a King of Gomers

I play mostly Indies

Based Indies.

[spark gyro]

Bro is g*ming

[fast gust]

idk the review score is very much a majority

[toxic dagger]

I didn't see the context and thought you were talking about Overwatch until I scrolled back up

[random shuttle]

This is my GOTY list for 2025:

MONSTER TRAIN 2
BALL X PIT
BLUE PRINCE
HOLLOW KNIGHT: SILKSONG
HADES 2
DISPATCH
9 KINGS
STRANGE ANTIQUITIES
KEEP DRIVING
THE MIDNIGHT WALK

[candid flare]

Same

[spark gyro]

I know the names of like 3 of those because people won't shut up about them

[fast gust]

W-what about Forestrike

[flat mist]

Can’t get over that shiv scum can hit 97.5% crit chance by literally just dodging once… that’s the only condition

[spark gyro]

I remember seeing one of those lame pill memes where it asked people to pick a game for a sequel, and there was stuff like Half-Life 3, Red Dead Redemption 3, GTA 6, Elder Scrolls 6, and then... there was Dispatch in the middle?

Game was barely out and people were holding it up as the next coming of Christ with an impossible sequel

[toxic dagger]

"The testers understand the game so poorly if they release the game in this state" is a lot like saying "Max Verstappen fucking sucks at designing a Formula 1 car"

[tight rock]

ball pit got old fast, especially with the idle parts of the game

[spark gyro]

Makis

[quick wolf]

Ppl cannot help but yearn for telltale games I guess

[spice cloud]

https://tenor.com/view/good-morning-night-love-gif-1033934735916524332

[random shuttle]

Not for me. Played it like a drug addict until I 100% it.

[spark gyro]

Makis

[quick wolf]

Understandable, but I think dispatch doesn’t need a sequel

[novel oracle]

it was even pointed out that a specific youtuber was being toxic to mr e about an opinion of his they disagreed with (ranged hive scum being weak), by putting the title of that video in the thumbnail for a havoc run using ranged scum
what wasnt payed attention to, was the fact that mr e is both a paid member of that youtubers channel, and has actually given them shoutouts for builds that he featured on his channel
so uh
lol

[spark gyro]

BRO IS CONVERSING WITH SELF

I'll bring the quetiapine

[spice cloud]

Teltalle „games“ are not even games its just a visual novel.

[spark gyro]

You WILL ingest the medication

[random shuttle]

That's the Dispatch revolution, sir.

They managed the impossible

[spice cloud]

Uuurgh

[random shuttle]

they added gameplay to a Telltale game.

[novel oracle]

yeah those are the good visual novels

[spiral horizon]

pretty much yeah

[spark gyro]

it was tanner wasn't it.

[quick wolf]

Yeah they really are

[spark gyro]

"Finally, Playtale"

[spice cloud]

Did they actually tho?

[random shuttle]

i think so, yes.

[spice cloud]

Like an actual game where u can….loose?

[random shuttle]

The dispatching is a simple but fun resource management

[lavish forge]

ty!

[novel oracle]

i mean the person who pointed it out
but the youtuber he was pointing to was khandones, who tanner has hated for over a year

[ancient basin]

a full single branch also gets close with the bonesaw too

[quick wolf]

You can kind of sort of lose but you have to try really hard to lose and it doesn’t really matter if you lose

[ancient basin]

every kill giving 2% cd on your stim is huge

[random shuttle]

Is it because Khan is so much better or...?

[fast gust]

Nah it's Khantones profile picture

It's peak

[spice cloud]

I see

[novel oracle]

i actually dont know why
but i remember them getting really upset about this video
which was basically just showing just how strong the duelling sword is at avoiding playing the game

[spark gyro]

This reminds me, does one-hitting the enemy get the 1% or the 2%? I vaguely remember some blessing that needed two hits or more to work, I think it was mercy killing on the combat blade knife

[novel oracle]

notice the video length

[spark gyro]

15 hours

[ancient basin]

the 1 hit probably counts as a regular kill from weapon damage

before the dot can be applied

[spark gyro]

Bad game

Bonesaw 0% damage meta

[random shuttle]

welp

[candid flare]

[random shuttle]

only Darktider I watch regularly

is Mr Unc

[ancient basin]

the bone saw is an exception I think

[random shuttle]

because Mr Unc

is the only one that seems to actually have fun

[ancient basin]

atleast in my meat grinder testing right now its giving good returns on CDR

clearing up trash mostly though, so bigger things wont come back as fast

[vast yoke]

anyone tried cknife yet? im thinking of using it for a stub pistols build since I'd like something that can kill Crushers better with dualies in my kit

[ancient basin]

crit knife?

[vast yoke]

shivs just don't cut it for me vs Crushers, that uncanny feels giganerfed

[vast yoke]

combat knife

or blade

i forgor

[fast gust]

Don't forget that Ogryn that posted a single vid and then dissapeared

[ancient basin]

I mean, you can run it riposte flesh tearer same as shivs, and still melt crushers from chem tox/bleed build up

needler is best for crusher suppression in my experience but whatever you enjoy is best for you for sure

havent run combat knife yet

[vast yoke]

I'm honestly thinking Riposte + unnerfed Uncanny because I'd rather dumpster them quickly. Needler is great but I want options for a stub pistol build that aren't Rashad lmao

[novel oracle]

it really isnt giga nerfed

the number looks way smaller but the effect barely is

due to the 1:4 adm ratio and the hard 100% rending cap

[vast yoke]

maybe but both shivs don't rlly feel fast crusher killers

[fast gust]

With rampage and stims it's reasonably fast

Thank kerfus for the evil bleed/tox build

[random shuttle]

https://youtu.be/y7g8pE0i-2s?si=C5Utr10f_vXFyous

[flat mist]

It’s 1%

[vast yoke]

and what if it's not a rampage build tho

[novel oracle]

if you throw 2 toxin shivs at their head, they have at least 12 stacks of toxin and landing the final blow with the shivs on them gives both of them back

[flat mist]

Just tested it again in case I’d remembered wrong

[prime musk]

how good is the slicy shivs compared to the stabby shivs?

[fast gust]

Meh

[vast yoke]

very good but completely different usecase

[ancient basin]

channeled aggression 25% + uncanny 40% + stim 15% is around 80, but 65% still pretty good

[fast gust]

Stabby good for elite hunting, slicy is just dual swords from Keri

[ancient basin]

combat blade probs going to melt them a bit harder though

[winged bay]

Vulture's dodge seems a bit bugged right now. Critting during the dodge window of an attack makes you avoid it, but it does not actually give you a 1s duration in any meaningful sense

[prime musk]

which would you recommend for a dual auto pistols desperado build?

[spiral horizon]

I don't watch darktide youtube at all, or tide youtube in general really

[ancient basin]

the alternate shivs mark is not that great from what i could tell, the extra cleave is not enough to justify its existence

[spiral horizon]

I don't really see the appeal when I can just play the fuckin game

[azure mist]

I play the game and learn and if I don’t I kill myself

[ancient basin]

I am not going to power attack with shivs to cleave as it makes me less mobile

[flat mist]

Wtf you get both back!!!!

[azure mist]

Hyper Crit exists also

[ancient basin]

mk1 shivs would be my recommend, more flexible

[fast gust]

During loading screens or while at work on the 'dead' hours

[prime musk]

will do, shivs go stabby stabby

[ancient basin]

and I run hyper crit mk1 shivs all the time, only barely slower than mk3

my only issue is the power attacks are the feature of mk3, but they cant do what I need (armor pen) to round out my melee kit

[flat mist]

Mk3 has higher attack speed? On lights?

[ancient basin]

probably hitting the attack speed cap sooner, as I run lots of attack speed lol

so I would not notice its base higher attack speed

[random shuttle]

NGL watchin Unc play definitely helped me get better at the game.

[ancient basin]

the feel I had is its not much faster than mk1 in a rampage adrenaline build, and I lose out on armor pen is all

I have no hard evidence

[flat mist]

Any idea what the cap actually is, been memeing with 9 stam curios but what’s the point if I’m overcapping 🙁

[novel oracle]

yeah cuz you get 2 back from ogryns

[flat mist]

Oh, nice

[spiral horizon]

yea I mean not knocking anyone who enjoys the content or benefits

[mortal hearth]

can I complete the " restore 2600 toughness with stim with at least 50% viscosity " with the share skill as well ? maybe faster too ? cause otherwise its a pain

[fast gust]

Yes

[limber cradle]

Tbh nothing makes me want to play a game less than watching it on YouTube

[flat mist]

I’m just running one point in the toughness branch every game. Doesn’t change my cd stim being up in time and it’s nearly done

[ancient basin]

I am running 11 (22%) stacks of swift endurance, 10% from frenzy, 20% from rampage. I dont pop my stim until after my rampage ends to cover my ass while I catch my breath, utilizing a 16% attack speed bump to shore up my defence

[mortal hearth]

yeah I can see the logic behind that, the defense stim tree is good in general but I have this problem of suffering from success where im not taking damage so im not restoring any toughness on myself

[flat mist]

With shiv?

[fast gust]

Why?

[ancient basin]

mk1, stabby shivs

[flat mist]

How do you have 11 stacks? That’s 7 from curios

[spark gyro]

favorite song

[woeful hill]

I watch my own videos and take note what to do better

Makes me want to play the game more

[ancient basin]

4 from curios, 2 from weapon perk

[ancient basin]

sorry, meant to say 10

[spark gyro]

except you don't die

[ancient basin]

bleh

thats on me

[vast yoke]

afaik the light attack chain comes out faster, and when all you care about is stacking a fuck ton of DOTs and using boom bringer / syringe pistol for anything you can't melt they're honestly a bit better. the heavies are still worthless mind you after the buff, and the only carapace target combo is PA-H which is so anaemic it's comparable to light spam DOT stacking anyway.

[woeful hill]

Lol yeah but less self praise, opposite

I threw a perfect H40 scum solo today

I had to stand up and walk away

It was a dumb mistake

[flat mist]

I watch your videos and praise myself too

[woeful hill]

I had twins at start and was almost midway

[vast yoke]

corkscrews, the boxcutters only have a niche place on crit stacking melee builds with either a 4 dependency stimm box or a rampage build. you practically need syringe gun to make boxcutters work, the corkscrews are far more universal

[ancient basin]

I like my flexability for sure

[little laurel]

Does anyone know if the Cooldown reduction from Chemical Dependancy, work on Stimm cooldown?

[spark gyro]

spinny boy

[spiral horizon]

watching my own recordings so I can find who I can get away with blaming for my mistakes

[ancient basin]

wish we had another mark of dual stubs with a higher caliber

[vast yoke]

it does not

sadly

[little laurel]

Christ....that is sad!

[vast yoke]

It'd be pretty funny if the CDR from your own cartel special could affect your own cartel special tbh

[ancient basin]

I mean, you can link it to sample collector and get your lab back constantly though

[spark gyro]

Didn't even do anything and this dude's staring at me

[little laurel]

ya,......but would be great honestly!

[little laurel]

Need quite alot of kills for that, since assists dont count I think

[vast yoke]

from what I've seen people have made stim box + new dependency work by forgoing Sample Collector and timing their cartel special to about 45ish seconds (which let's it come back around the same time a 4 dependency stack + a few curio combat ability regen perks) it's okay, not really crazy or anything

dependency is really good on rampage and desperado tho

but you usually stack 3 for point saving + saves you a headache

[vast yoke]

the annoying thing is that even with the 5 second box build it still takes 60+5 seconds on CD, and the math on CDR is weird, probably multiplicative shenanigans

so you gotta lab out your stim duration in grinder

[flat mist]

Plus you get diminishing returns with all cd regen speed so the last stack is less effective

[vast yoke]

yurp

[ancient basin]

anyways, ill experiment with my lab build tomorrow

night all

[vast yoke]

bye bye

[ancient basin]

enjoy your drugs!

[plush cove]

ngl...not a big fan of them giving the mastery crowbar skin those white stripes, it was perfect being just red

[vast yoke]

AGREED

i swapped off it because the stripes look so lame

[lost bear]

jesus ram is like 400% what it used to be

[plush cove]

still better than yellow tho so I'll still run it lol

I can just...squint my eyes a bit

[vast yoke]

the yellow at least fits my crowbar builds fit lmao

[random shuttle]

yeah

[plush cove]

I hope my 32gb of ram survive for a few years...

man

[random shuttle]

my sticks in my PC are so expensive right now if I sold them I could buy a beefy GPU

😄

[fast gust]

Copyright

[vast yoke]

my boss got caught taking RAM out of old office equipment to sell

[ancient basin]

128 gigs ram enjoyer

[plush cove]

wait what?

really?

crowbars are...copyrighted???

lol

[neat heart]

valve didn't invent crowbars lmfao

let alone copyrighted them

[plush cove]

i mean probably not talking about valve, but still

[neat heart]

red crowbars aren't copyrighted

[plush cove]

lol

[fast gust]

Not valve some Bricko Depot offshoot

Jokes aside it's likely Fatshark just did in case, they don't tend to change skins like that just color correct

[vast yoke]

I think the white crap on the mastery crowbar was supposed to be there day 1 but some bug didn't render them

unfortunately it's fixed now

[plush cove]

honestly I find it really hard to believe lol, but you never know

[fast gust]

Similar to the German/Austrian censorship we'll get a mod to bring it back

[fast wind]

now red crowbar will be in commodores

[vast yoke]

once extended weapon customization is fixed you'll be able to use it to color it in any color

cus latest versions have a custom weapon skin system

it's neat

[bronze glade]

what if you were trying to clutch

and the game just says no

[random shuttle]

Yer alive aren't ya?

Excuses smh.

[bronze glade]

well didn't bother showing the part where i died because of this lol

[random shuttle]

And on whole 2HP!

Wow, okay, skill issue smh,

"Just don't get hit" crowd in riot.

[plush cove]

does crowbar's special mode "rip" count as 2 hits, or just 1 I wonder

[bronze glade]

that's kinda what my build counts on tbf, but i never new bursters had ping pong ball physics

[winged latch]

i fkin hate when that happens

[random shuttle]

well

[fast gust]

I mean you could argue it's a positioning error, you should never push bursters towards gunners or flamers

[random shuttle]

at least FS finally found out what got bugged there

so maybe soon we get a hotfit

[kind zodiac]

this might sound strange but as a veteran main i like having hive scum on the team

[bronze glade]

was it?

the burster hit a pillar and bounced off

it wasn't a gunner/flamer thing lol

[cedar cairn]

The Ammo Bros

[fast gust]

I think it got hit by bullets

[rigid dock]

is grabbing the cleave talents worth the bother for tac axe?

[bronze glade]

idk if reaper bullets are supposed to push bursters lol

[fast gust]

Yep the burster doesn't touch the column

[bronze glade]

and look, idc

it was bullshit

[fast gust]

Yes.

[cedar cairn]

Two hits

[young herald]

no, cleave generally isn't worth pursuing with taxe or caxe

[fast gust]

Bruhmentum

[calm aurora]

I built my computer and the end of september... my buid is 800 dollars more expensive right now. Imagine next month or so when GPU prices will be increasing

[plush cove]

I tested it a bit, if you dodge back before the 2nd "rip" hit, there's no difference apparently.

still counts as 1 instance of Can Opener

[plucky nymph]

Anyone find a way to make stubbies better in h40, I do so much better with braced / infy auto, uzi, etc 😭 but the stubbies r so kewl 😭

[lethal quartz]

do mostly melee or tox build, use the stubbies as a more ammo efficient revolver on specials/shooters/gunners

you get like 4x the ammo of revolvers for guns that only take a few more to kill breakpoint wise

even at 40 on certain targets

[calm aurora]

It will only stagger more so yeah not really that useful

[calm aurora]

Take the one from rampage tho. You want the +25 Strength

[plucky nymph]

Any way to make em work as primaries xD I just wanna shoot shootshoot

[calm aurora]

You still have chores to do, laundry, cooking...

[compact oyster]

Desperado pickpocket

[spiral horizon]

there's a myriad of things I'd rather listen to or watch is all I'm saying

[calm aurora]

You don't want to listen to toxic banter, CADIA CADIA CADIA CADIA, or heretics dying? Smh

[woeful hill]

It's a good pick if you go shred plus headtaker

BM does invalidate the cleave increase otherwise

[blissful notch]

Is there something I’m not getting about this class or is melee scum just worse melee Psyker?

[lost bear]

you might not be picking the money nodes

[woeful hill]

1st step isn't comparing anything to psyker

[blissful notch]

Shivs uncanny+riposte yea?

[woeful hill]

Sadly psyker is leagues above everyone in their own op realm

[tight rock]

Cocaine makes me a god.

[blissful notch]

I mean it’s not an issue if it’s a sidegrade but this thing just feels like an almost absolute downgrade

[woeful hill]

Pros and cons in some regards

Like nimble

Infinite ammo

[calm aurora]

A camaro is a downgrade to a Porsche. But it will cost you less.

[woeful hill]

Better cdr

Corruption removable

Damage immunity to everything

[blissful notch]

Yea it’s more nimble but the loss in hordeclear is massive

[woeful hill]

More cleave increases

Not more nimble

The talent

Nimble

[calm aurora]

That gets you killed

[woeful hill]

It covers counters 1 of psykers biggest drawback with their best melee fgs

The dodge distance and movespeed

[blissful notch]

A hivescum is a paid class though

[calm aurora]

Good point

[blissful notch]

My free Porsche is eating better

[woeful hill]

It's just new content

Balance isn't a thing fatshark is striving for

Very apparent seeing how psyker and arby are

[spark gyro]

free* agile

[calm aurora]

Yeah but playing nimbe fgs is not really the way tbh. Embrace the suck and you use KD :/

[spark gyro]

though I will concede that this icon is false advertising

my guy is clearly jorking it grimdark style and scum does not actually have that mechanic

[calm aurora]

FATSHARK is in its MCU power scale arc.

[woeful hill]

I'm having a lot of fun with scum figuring their stuff out and how things interact

Doing a H40 scum solo will be my goal for a few weeks

Maybe months

[zenith fern]

That kinda based

[spiral horizon]

balancing isn't done in a vacuum, FS gets all sorts of feedback and has all sorts of telemetry and one can only assume various opinions and philosophies internally as well as structures that impact the what, why, when and how things are done

[novel oracle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/821512553615851571/1395640483623211008/gugu.gif

[fast gust]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1384148775777337366/1448221587798102109/image.png?ex=693a78f5&is=69392775&hm=802fd8e6242e21148a09c519f1a63a49ae65500d38fbe4d62b90165e0227bbd6&

[novel oracle]

i think scum can be good if you take the good stuff

[zenith fern]

But I want the bad stuff to feel underpowered

[zenith fern]

Need this recreated with scum voicelines now

[calm aurora]

Build?

[twin grove]

Good luck

[novel oracle]

that was just the vm/desp/dual autos

[random shuttle]

It is High end. High end of its life cycle.

[novel oracle]

i used blinding nades with no toxin too, so all of that damage is just guns

[vast yoke]

he's clearly on his phone playing flappy servitor

[blissful notch]

58k melee dmg did you gun the crushers as well?

[novel oracle]

[random shuttle]

who doesn't

Gun the world

58k melee dmg is still big for Despacito

[novel oracle]

i only melee crushers if they were aggroed to me, there was nothing else to shoot, and desperado wasnt active

[random shuttle]

Cole was flexing that hybrid build.

[blissful notch]

I meant like doesn’t the autos do piss dmg on crushers or did you take rending on cart stim?

[novel oracle]

like i could melee that crusher
or i could kite it around for 10s and kill like 15 gunners and shooters and THEN kill it

[fast gust]

Uuuuh guys

Since when can we duck mutants to dodge them?

I know dogs and snipers depending on jump arc/angle

but mutants?

[main wagon]

Since scum is a funny meme

I’ve noticed it a few times

[fast gust]

I am playing arbi tho

[main wagon]

Oh LOL

[fast gust]

Max height arbi

[spiral horizon]

my favourite is dogs whiffing me regularly because my dude is minimum height

[main wagon]

I guess Scum brought this meme to us

[fast gust]

Peak short maxing

[calm aurora]

Wdym

[main wagon]

Short operatives ftw

[fast gust]

A mutant was targeting me and I was out of dodges

So I just ducked out of mordhau habit

mutant phased through and did the 'oh I missed' anim

[calm aurora]

Like crouching?

[spiral horizon]

that's hilarious

[unique dagger]

Rampage shivs kill crushers so quick it’s funny to watch

[fast gust]

maybe it was the stairs?

[blissful notch]

Guess it’s time to unbind dodge button

[spiral horizon]

yeah might've been cooked geometry or smth

[calm aurora]

I have used your build. Holy shit.

[dusk wagon]

I synthesized a background image of the game opening using AI

[outer cobalt]

cringe

[unique dagger]

Yessir, it is crazy. Infinite ammo, cracked melee dmg. We were making steady progress in scum havoc 40 duos yesterday with that setup

[echo python]

Rule number 9: no AI

[fast gust]

The humble dodge forcer:

the naked maulman of Darktide

[unique dagger]

I’ve made a change with the build though

[calm aurora]

The ex your gf/bf is talking about

[unique dagger]

I am running crit chance + reload speed on my needle pistol now

[calm aurora]

Hmmm which one?

I run stam + unyielding

[spiral horizon]

AI stuff isn't allowed in this server

[unique dagger]

Reason is simple, you don’t stay on pistol after shooting %80 of the time with ramp build

So if you make the switch, dmg perks on pistol wont matter

As melee perks will affect the damage

Aka your shiv perks

So I’m running full util on stim pistol now, crits to get bonus toxin and reload speed for faster needling

[random shuttle]

I am running Ogryn as my Hive Scum and I never felt tankier.

[kind zodiac]

thats a joke right?

[spiral horizon]

No discussion or posting of AI art, Crypto, and NFTs. This includes any sort of linking or referencing through media format.

[zenith fern]

reading rules too much effort these days

[fast gust]

I mean krourk IV ogryn with no shirt is the Ogrynscum

[kind zodiac]

not really already read the rules

[zenith fern]

[rapid mango]

https://tenor.com/view/aplausos-clapped-leonardo-dicaprio-clap-slow-clap-gif-1724742745274938226

[kind zodiac]

but not allowed to post ai art? that rule seems more of a personal thing more than anything to me at least

[fast gust]

This is a 40k discord

AI is literally heresy

[random shuttle]

Fatshark has a lot of creatives slaving hard to make the game gorgeous.

[zenith fern]

Brother thinks AI is allowed in 40K

[random shuttle]

Of course they would hate AI slop.

also as mentioned above

[echo python]

We had a containment thread once upon a time. It's enough to say that the moderation burden outweighed whatever vague benefits it had

[random shuttle]

Abominable Intelligence is PEAK heresy.

[spiral horizon]

AI is loaded with ethical concerns, ranging from IP and copyright issues to environmental issues

[fast gust]

that and something about ai stealing the art of others, causing drama and overall been a big can of worms that is often best left outside of official discords and/or forums

[spiral horizon]

it's reasonable to ban AI.

[severe dawn]

is quick an deadly only proc for range or does it work with melee too?

omg that sentence...does quick an deadly on proc with range?

[kind zodiac]

ahhhhh ok now that makes sense

also doesnt the imperium use simple ai?

[calm aurora]

Aquila, you interested in some of my toxicoins?

[random shuttle]

no 😄

[rapid mango]

i believe both

[plucky nymph]

@woeful hill I was goofin needle pistol and dclW mk4

With stamina regen

The stam regen and delay basically is unlimited blocking, it is funny. Like I started regen + reached 100% stamina during melee twins fast swinging

[severe dawn]

thank you!

[rapid mango]

it says "close ranged damage" instead of "close range damage" someone mentioned

[charred bronze]

None. That's why servitors exist. They had an ai rebellion during/that ended the golden age before the imperium, iirc

[compact oyster]

Nope

Everything is either servitorized or machine spirits

After the men of iron the imperium got rid of ai

[random shuttle]

Become a Smart Oven.

[calm aurora]

Stam regen on the curios? In the tree?

[compact oyster]

Belisarius cawl however has 2 ai

[rapid mango]

such a goofy ass detail i love it

[compact oyster]

Skull soup

[calm aurora]

NOSH

[plucky nymph]

Curios

It sounds dumb but I was looking for melees to cover needle pistol weakness for h40 solo practice and dclaw 4 for me felt the best. And I was basically immortal with hella shit swingin at meif I got stuck on something or some unfortunate movement / boss spawns

[kind zodiac]

what about servo skulls?

[cedar cairn]

Tbf Cawl regularly breaks most of the laws of the tech cult and the imperium

[random shuttle]

They are literally human brains acting as computers.

[novel oracle]

@fast gust

[charred bronze]

I think machine spirits may technically be ai, now that you mention it, but hamstrung

[novel oracle]

first game i played today, h40

[charred bronze]

Still a servitor/robot

[calm aurora]

Did you put 24 or 36 then? I am thinking about a dclaw build too

[novel oracle]

luma is a psyker, yvette is a crate scum, jumbo is an ogryn, and im ranged scum

[fast gust]

I'm gonna have an epic meltdown at this rate

[novel oracle]

that thread is so funny

[compact oyster]

The machine spirit either is or isnt the void dragon itself or a c'tan shard

[fast gust]

[compact oyster]

The brightest minds of the steam discussions

[kind zodiac]

couldn't the human brain techically be classed as a computer/ai

[charred bronze]

Individual vehicles have machine spirits though

[novel oracle]

im ngl i agree somewhat with that, except for the part that youre using it for dependency

[plucky nymph]

I did 36 I also wanted to make sure I can get to my 40% dodge recov state faster just in-case

Done enough h40 clutches with it to where I feel itll be pretty good for h40 solo attempts

[fast gust]

Ye that's exactly the issue and the worst is, this is spreading into the game lobbies, gangers WITHOUT stim investment

[charred bronze]

NI, not AI

[novel oracle]

i dont like the current implementation of the stim and a lot of the things tied to it

[compact oyster]

Almost everything technical has one

[rapid mango]

oh yeah that reminds me

[compact oyster]

All of the omnisian axes have a machine spirit

[rapid mango]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1448069748716994672/infinite_crates.gif

[vocal saffron]

hot take...

agree..

[calm aurora]

oh so you took jittery too then

[novel oracle]

but there wasnt time to change it
thats something yall know too
cuz the stim finally worked as it was planned to only a few days before release, just 1 day before the media build nda was dropped

[calm aurora]

you went hypercritical or hyperviolence?\

[fast gust]

Toughness tree been useless is a big L
But the fact that people genuilly think they should only do stuff in the lab for dependency is still making me ANGERY

[plucky nymph]

Yea I probably have like…maybe 2% of the mission I’m actually making use of it

But when I’m making use of it, its like oh lawd that saves me

[calm aurora]

I am not sure the dclaw can juice hv tho

[plucky nymph]

Its just for the trash and making melee twin / CS kill themselves

[fast gust]

Oh great, we have a mods bad discussion, I hate free weekends

[kind zodiac]

ok still those what did humanity do to fuck up so badly to cause a war with ai

[calm aurora]

can you share your build?

I was thinking going chem dep with it

to get more crits and use the toxins to chip at large targets

[warped quiver]

which shiv mk is the better one?

[plucky nymph]

I’m making adjustments now that chem dependency works, heres a long answer

@calm aurora before you crank stim up, with average needle pistol use, you sometimes get your crate before stim is ready…so you double dip (if you leave the unstimmed crate aoe then walk in, itll give you stim buff)

With chem dep working now and being less annoying fiddling with keys, you can pretty reliably get crate ready around 15-20s before stim is ready…so u get that stim effect plus when stim is actually ready, you get another stim crate

So I did a couple games and I basically had 30s long stims for the game lol

I don’t think I care for it in solo id rather take the melee nodes but otherwise I was using dependency with the Tdr

[fallen coyote]

Depends on what you use it for, starter has single target heavies while the other has sweeps for groups

Generally single target is better

[warped quiver]

I'm assuming single target heavy is better considering you can spam down hordes with lights anyway

[calm aurora]

ohh that's how you juice the claw, i was thinking about using rampage for that!

[plucky nymph]

I tried the diff marks in a few games but the 4 just so gud. I just use savage sweep and rampage, flak unyield (I don’t even know if I care for flak that much for its use) and then I made a melee twin kill itself in like seconds lol

Really just thinking “what does the needle pistol SUCK at” and tryna build around that

[calm aurora]

don't you have enough cleave in the tree to go rampage shred?

And I think wrath is probably more reliable than ss in mixed horde

[drowsy relic]

Why does he have such a stranglehold on the community

Is it because he's negative? It must be

[calm aurora]

yesterday he posted that

then I posted that

then 2 minutes later he deleted everything and posted that

[compact oyster]

This one was deleted too lmao

[fast gust]

I'll be saving these I'm doing a collage

[calm aurora]

I am not really a fan of deleting your history to build a convenient narrative

[drowsy relic]

Do keep all of these saved lmfao

[rapid mango]

and he wonders why people hate him i dont even know the guy and i dislike him

[compact oyster]

He lies a LOT

[random shuttle]

Classic Tanner Fantasyposting.

[compact oyster]

Likes to spin narratives

He probably deleted the post cause he got called out by saying only 1 dude came into the server hostile

[spark gyro]

Unironically real

[rapid mango]

whenever the collage is done i think i want a copy to post whenever someone in the future says he's reliable

[spark gyro]

CD is kind of ass when you end up stimming yourself not out of necessity, but to keep the timer up

[random shuttle]

NGL I don't know the fella but I, lowkey, feel a bit sorry for them. It must be... demanding... to make your own enemies in your own mind and lash out at the phantoms.

[spark gyro]

Oftentimes I just went through situations, looked at my buff bar and went "ah fuck, I forgot it again"

[fast gust]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/807809192537882647/1389624448188944394/togif-4.gif

[calm aurora]

deleting your comments is basically not wanting to own them

errors and all

[summer jewel]

man why is the chat looking like an LSF thread 😭 i just wanna read scum stuff

[fast gust]

[calm aurora]

nothing to talk about!

[spark gyro]

btw doing the desperado penance is giving me an aneurysm

this feels like it has worse horde clear and worse boss damage than the melee builds I'm running

[idle lava]

I've been having fun with the Chem box

[calm aurora]

half of the reviews are fake

[spark gyro]

I'm glad I'm 45 kills away from finishing it

[compact oyster]

Years ago

[spark gyro]

I wanna go back to having fun

[compact oyster]

I was chinese...

[spark gyro]

yamete

[calm aurora]

!!!!!!

I thought you were white trash Yam!

[summer jewel]

i saw they fixed the box dependency stuff which piqued my interest

[plush cove]

H40, we lost but lol

[drowsy relic]

Cos you're level 1 ya dipshit lmfao

[summer jewel]

was legit sad when i saw the box wasnt stacking dependency

[obtuse forge]

I believe that is supposed to be fixed now.

[drowsy relic]

Honestly

It's not that good of a combo anyway lmfao

[random shuttle]

290 Elites+Specials killed. Love Despacito.

[compact oyster]

Yamete kudasai!!!

[summer jewel]

even if it isnt it felt a bit weird to have the ability not work with the keystone in the same third of the tree

[drowsy relic]

No you right it's because it got changed late into testing

But in this case it gives CDR

The box refreshes on stim

I don't want box CDR

It's why I use adrenaline with box and stim

[calm aurora]

I turned 43 today, so I am getting old but fuck those mechanics are increasingly more complicated

[crisp fulcrum]

But said channel owner liked the top comment that roughly said but your video doesn't compare to Mr E's best point : "waaaaaaah waaaaah I'm a big baby waaaaah" so it's mean but most importantly childish either way. Can't screenshoot it because comments have since been turned off.

[calm aurora]

I don't wanna do a phd in Darktide

[summer jewel]

im not even close to 43 but i do also yearn for the unga bunga

[calm aurora]

Mr E is cool in that regard. He's giving shoutouts and link to the video, not post it as his.

[novel oracle]

yeah khan turned that off cuz he doesnt want to get involved in whatever shitstorm is being kicked up

[compact oyster]

Smart choice

[fast gust]

Whatever happens it's gonna be bad for the community in the upcoming months

I'm glad atleast I can watch Khan/unc content without been reminded

[calm aurora]

especially when he's going on holidays

[random shuttle]

And it was all so nice and peaceful when certain party was out of Darktide

😏

[fast gust]

I miss those months

[compact oyster]

Tanner had a meltdown over mr e getting a feature on the darktide channel and media build access

Not even a good friend

But enough of that

[grand jewel]

💀

[compact oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/my-jolly-reaction-jolly-my-honest-reaction-gif-5490890317762380451

[hazy vector]

I am fucking malding

[random shuttle]

in good news

[grand jewel]

what are my good drug addicts up to today

[random shuttle]

I love the new Zooka so much

[hazy vector]

5 maelstroms in a row failed because of idiots shooting burstrers

[calm aurora]

can someone do the ELI5 for old people, so basically the ELI43 in my case of the supply crate and the cooldowns?

[haughty slate]

Does anyone know how green stim's work with stim supply? Is it a flat 1 wound heal to everyone?

[novel oracle]

sending a video of me jumping off a cliff in game to the devs and telling them they made me do it by gaslighting me

[compact oyster]

Old man

[hazy vector]

also interesting fact, stim supplies of other players also increase stacks of chem dep

[summer jewel]

big boom is pretty cool my only problem is the pullout time itches like the exact wrong parts of my brain

[drowsy relic]

Getting hive scum nerfed I see

[summer jewel]

https://tenor.com/view/vermintide-2-warhammer-vermintide-slayer-bardin-gif-15875181584785943192

[fast gust]

https://tenor.com/view/snep-eye-emoji-eye-snow-leopard-splort-snep-gif-3974321735631587402

[random shuttle]

i dont mind

but I play Achlys HS on Ogryn

so Pullout game is on point

https://tenor.com/view/you-know-what-i-mean-laughing-come-on-haha-gif-15264654

[drowsy relic]

https://tenor.com/view/feral-hog-christmas-drooling-feral-hog-pig-hog-gif-6304572232972613704

[summer jewel]

its not necessarily the timing of it its just something about the timing with the heftiness of the animation. like i love using UGS's in souls games cause i love the weighty slow impacts

[compact oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/ltg-holly-jolly-christmas-ltg-christmas-low-tier-god-gif-1431977317207580677

[summer jewel]

gimme like an animation of the ketamine addict lugging out the rocket launcher

[calm aurora]

@low harbor halp

[novel oracle]

get this guy PRESENTS right now

[random shuttle]

Christmas Isn't Real

Santa is a corporate lie

[compact oyster]

Im supposed to be getting socks cole.

I want my fatshark socks so baddddddd

[novel oracle]

no you arent i took them

[compact oyster]

:((

[tight rock]

hey cole, which weapon are you using for your ranged build

[random shuttle]

in this house we celebrate Yule by hunting a boar and carving a wood totem!

[haughty slate]

Does anyone know if no stim stim supply is any good?

[compact oyster]

Can you please pester catfish about my socks

[lapis raft]

the corruption immune + bombs is decent at least

[calm aurora]

it heals corruption

[acoustic viper]

What if we live in an urban area with no boar

[summer jewel]

omg dagoth ur hi

[lapis raft]

so ye for sure

[random shuttle]

Fun fact - in my urban area there are boars.

[tight rock]

Sup N'Wah

[haughty slate]

but is it good to use regular stims and just pass on the stim lab?

[acoustic viper]

Will a large landlord or door to door salesman suffice

[random shuttle]

yes

[summer jewel]

just trying to... acquire some kwama eggs

[random shuttle]

its the spirit of the thing that matters

[tight rock]

Those go well with some Dagoth Brandy.

[viscid ocean]

Anyone noticing the Stimm Crate not giving proper effects?

[random shuttle]

it amuses me

endlessly

that there are people out there

who believe Elder Scrolls 6 will be good

[acoustic viper]

What visage should the wooden effigy represent

[viscid ocean]

or does it not work in the Meat Grinder?

[haughty slate]

are you using your stim and then popping crate after?

[calm aurora]

in pox map at least I think i would run supply without cartel stimms because you get a lot of green stimms and you can create quick and easy portable medic station for all

[acoustic viper]

Have faith, the next teaser in 4 years will prove its greatness

[viscid ocean]

Negative, I have been testing that