hivescum-class

[knotty grotto]

i hear double barrel desperado's good too?

[unreal stirrup]

literally best thing ever in havoc

[random shuttle]

It is same feel hear my brother

[steep vale]

Gg on ogryn dump is the aoe i thino

[bronze glade]

it's good

[random shuttle]

Get that Vraks

[bronze glade]

keeps the cannon fodder online

[urban gull]

Are yall insane

[random shuttle]

get Desperado unlimited ammo

go to fucking town

Kill the world

[broken bear]

Basically ppl need to remember to keep moving, always hit, always dodge

[steep vale]

My revive animation finishes before the revive is even a third done

[urban gull]

If you cant pick em up you either stand still and hold E or you DIE

[knotty grotto]

my hivescum renouncing the emperor and reciting the shahadah as he pops desperado with vraks:

does revive speed also apply to rescues btw

[random shuttle]

I am Vrakking it with Despacito all day today

and it fuuuuuuucks so hard

[latent belfry]

I don't think you understand how truly stupid revive speed on curios is

[livid raven]

that's among the best picks bro

[random shuttle]

All the elites kills are mine, all of them

[urban gull]

What the fuck is vraks.......

[livid raven]

infantry autogun

[dense hollow]

revive speed affects all forms of helping people up

not just reviving

it will be inevitable that you or someone else makes a mistake no matter how perfectly you play

[random shuttle]

Autogun with super rapid realod, good punch, good acc, deadly on Despacito

[livid raven]

it's especially good on scum imo since you can't stand fire from gunners much

[random shuttle]

give it Dumdum + Fire Frenzy, kill blue enemies, win the game

[charred bronze]

Thoughts on curios? Seems stam is much more valuable to them than other classes

[livid raven]

desperado wants 0 stam imo

[dim moth]

relatively common pick since they made it affect all assist actions

[random shuttle]

Revive Speed is also S-tier perk for Havocing

you need every milisecond

[urban gull]

Common for thee but not for me, if they die they die

[livid raven]

based?

[steep vale]

Im making this my about me btw its funny as fuck

[tight musk]

With 3 revive speed buffs you free people from nets in about 0.2 nanoseconds.

[steep vale]

I’ve actually never been hit in game before

And if i do its your fault not mine

[dense hollow]

there's a million scenarios where you get someone up that you couldnt have gotten otherwise

[leaden lark]

Damn, hive scum is so weak

[random shuttle]

I actually never lost a single match, ever, if not counting the matches I lost

[steep vale]

Ive never died because i alt f4

[urban gull]

Press dodge cuh

[latent belfry]

Ikr, vet two point oh shut down fatshark servers now blease

[jovial thorn]

Of course they would be, Hive Scum aint no Ogryn

[leaden lark]

I think they should give grenade regen to hive scum

[steep vale]

Bait or wrong call it

https://tenor.com/view/bonne-nuit-bisous-gif-23798629

[manic wolf]

They already have that tho?

[broken bear]

Tbh I took the stam curio cuz of jittery

[steep vale]

For 1 of them

[urban gull]

Real shit what do yall bind dodge to? I bound mine to Shift with sprint

[broken bear]

I practically have 2 effective dodges constantly

[broken bear]

Space

[woeful hill]

F10

[hazy vector]

how one gets stam 3 curio

[latent belfry]

Space

[hazy vector]

I got one on vet

[random shuttle]

Fifth Mouse button 😄

[steep vale]

Luck

[hazy vector]

and have not seen another one since

[broken bear]

Space is dodge, alt is jump, shift is sprint

[manic wolf]

I mean, yeah, but it exists, an Blackouts are pretty goated

[broken bear]

Crouch is C

[dense hollow]

get a 410+ gear score stamina curio

[dim moth]

it's just staying on spacebar

[livid raven]

desperado doesn't use stamina unless it's to run to the next section

[charred bronze]

Unironically gonna try 3 +3 stam, 3x ability cooldown, 3x revive speed, 40% gunner, 20% sniper and see how that goes. If I had any +3 stam curios

[dim moth]

it's a shit bind but I am not ruining thousands of hours of muscle memory

[broken bear]

I raise you crushers

[livid raven]

and if you start dodging, you recover stamina incredibly fast anyway

[urban gull]

Your jump key is fucking alt???

[jovial thorn]

Hive Scum is the equivalent of an GTA Npc if they become Level 1 Thug

[broken bear]

Idk maybe I’ll swap for more toughness

[steep vale]

Im running 2 17% toughness curio and 1 +3 stamina

[broken bear]

Yea???

[manic wolf]

So is mine lule

[hazy vector]

I do the same

You almost never need to jump here

[dim moth]

not rare

[knotty grotto]

have there been any emerging ideas on hive scum's role for h40

[dense hollow]

yeah i bound my jump key to alt

[livid raven]

your dodge slides are so insane they aren't really a problem imo

[dim moth]

jumping is rare in darktide

[urban gull]

What is WRONG with yall mfs

[broken bear]

I wanted it near space so

[dim moth]

might as well get it off space so you don't do it by accident

[broken bear]

But not as space

[zealous ravine]

my jump key is C

[tight musk]

I just had the weirdest match where I was the only hive scum yet I was the only one not constantly dying.

Like, how did I outlive a zealot? Dude literally has "I can't die" passive ability.

[knotty grotto]

im also on alt jump

[broken bear]

Cuz I only jump like 2 times a match

But dodge 500+ times

[latent belfry]

Alt is ping for me so that's not gonna work

[crude matrix]

yea

[hazy vector]

Because jump on space really fucks up your dodges if you spam them too quick

[broken bear]

Middle mouse is ping

[hazy vector]

Hence safer to move jump to another key

[dense hollow]

this isnt too uncommon this week

[latent belfry]

My mm is broken

Rn

[livid raven]

may i suggest the anti-jump mod

[dense hollow]

free weekend and darktide is 10 bucks

[knotty grotto]

swing is scroll weel

[livid raven]

i use dodge and jump both on space

[broken bear]

Mouse 4 is special attack, mouse 5 is grenade

[steep vale]

Free players testing the game currently

[latent belfry]

Same

[crude matrix]

mouse 5 is reload

[steep vale]

Lots of new people

[urban gull]

Blocked. Blocked. You're all blocked. None of you are free of sin

[steep vale]

Bro only uses his mouse

[broken bear]

Also I only had two curios so far 😹

[hazy vector]

least sensitive dakrtide player

[broken bear]

R is reload

[crude matrix]

look when you play psyker it's kinda tough to reach over for r all the time

[broken bear]

I’ll never not have R be reload

[urban gull]

ITS WHAT

[steep vale]

Fair

[broken bear]

It’s valid

Tf is ur jump

[rare stirrup]

Mouse 4 is Skitarius sequence 1 and mouse 5 is Skitarius sequence 2

[manic wolf]

Mouse 4 for slide/crouch, mouse 7 for blitz, mouse 11 for stim

[urban gull]

Space cuh

[steep vale]

I use mouse 4 for grenade and mouse 5 for alt attack

[crude matrix]

play psyker vro

[tight musk]

I moved the jump key to control.

Accidentally jumping when I want to dodge has been a disaster for me one too many times.

You don't really need to jump that often anyway.

[broken bear]

Ick

[urban gull]

I DO

[broken bear]

Dodge is 50x more useful than jump

So it gets the space bar

Just like Elden ring

[crude matrix]

so why r u using R for fucking quell

[broken bear]

😹

[urban gull]

https://tenor.com/view/choso-jujutsu-kaisen-jjk-screaming-headache-gif-17112922300540412562

YALL AINT REAL

[livid raven]

you don't?

[latent belfry]

Not that bad of a key to press

[crude matrix]

mouse 5

[manic wolf]

At least until an american football team bomber squad wants to play "the floor is lava"

[livid raven]

brother in christ

[urban gull]

BECAUSE ITS MY RELOAD KEY!!!!

AAAAAA

[broken bear]

Do you play auric

[latent belfry]

I'm not a huge psyker player but it's never been an issue when I play aurics and maels

[livid raven]

stop using mouses with more than left click, right click and wheel

[steep vale]

My jump is mouse 3

[urban gull]

Yes

[broken bear]

They don’t get the chance

I sack them real quick

Blue 42 shiv knife to the face

[random shuttle]

If a mouse doesn't have 5 buttons, it's a Rat.

[manic wolf]

No, I like my 12 free inputs 😄

[urban gull]

WUEEJEHE USHEJRIRBR I WNRJNRJENR YOUR FUCKING MOUSEWHEEL BUTTON?????

[steep vale]

Im joking

Just bait

[urban gull]

NO YOU AINT

[broken bear]

Okay this is what the fuck

[steep vale]

My jump is space like a normal hunan

[crude matrix]

idk I like my extra 2 side buttons

[urban gull]

Oh my god yall are insane

Wild animals

[frigid thorn]

Is there anyway to stop the cross hair from shaking around when doing the trickshot on the dial stubber pistols?

[steep vale]

My shoot is mouse 3

[broken bear]

My ping button is when I scroll my mouse wheel

Enjoy five million pings

[dense hollow]

my special weapon action is mouse 4 because my mouse 3 doesn't work

[steep vale]

CHAT ITS BAIT

[random shuttle]

I have ping on wheel click, dodge on Mouse 5 and Special on Mouse 4

[hazy vector]

my shoot is is number 8

[zenith fern]

Disable world cross hair dynamic

[broken bear]

I lowk can see the appeal

[manic wolf]

Legit surprised you dont get votekicked all the time

[steep vale]

Everything is stock aside from grenades and alt attack

[crude matrix]

lowk fair

[latent belfry]

Grave is my ping button when I have the mod, I also have no, thank you, and for the emperor bound to 8, 9, and 0

[manic wolf]

Ping spam is the single most tilting thing in DT

[zenith fern]

Look at the game settings and disable all available shaking and wobble options

[steep vale]

It pisses me off

[latent belfry]

But for marking enemies I use alt

[frigid thorn]

Heck yeah

[steep vale]

Guy got pinned by a hound yesterday and pinned the shit out of it

[hazy vector]

This is why i do it

[zenith fern]

People who play with shaking settings in games are insane

[steep vale]

I watch him die

[manic wolf]

Yeup, breaks concentration an is obnoxious when you need your ears

[urban gull]

Q is my swap button. Alt is ping and voicewheel. R is Reload. Control is crouch. Shift is sprint and dodge. M4 is Special. G is Grenade. THIS IS HOW GOD INTENDED

[crude matrix]

hi

[hazy vector]

Only way to make someone pick up ammo/med carate

[manic wolf]

I'll get to the downed/trapped player when i get there, ping spam = leave you for dead

[latent belfry]

The only thing I really want to change controls wise is slide

[frigid thorn]

I thought I had it turned off but maybe it reset

[manic kernel]

that actually doesnt look that strong

[zenith fern]

You all bunch of lot, I keep jump and dodge same key because I wanna fumble but still avoid attacks

[latent belfry]

Because it's kinda hard to sprint slide holding items with shift n control being the keys you have to press

[frigid thorn]

I hate shaking too

[livid raven]

i put special on Q and removed swap

[trim wind]

last time i had a ping spammer i threatened to stop attacking if he didn't quit, anyway so i ended up not attacking anything for the last half of the match and spam pinging everything that wasn't an enemy. still outdmged the spammer

[urban gull]

Also M5 is light spam and T is ranged automatic

[hazy vector]

but when do you even need to jump lol

at like 5 locations in the game

[charred bronze]

I want to default all my scum movement to slides ONLY

[crude matrix]

this is not how god intended what the fuck are u doing
Q swap, Alt jump, Mouse 5 reload, Ctrl crouch, Shift sprint, Spacebar dodge, M4 special

[latent belfry]

I've considered binding it to alt because thumb press

[urban gull]

I hope you catch a crusher overhead this aint it

[latent belfry]

But then idk where I would put mark enemy

[urban gull]

Yall scare me

[broken bear]

I only do it when they don’t get in objectives

[manic wolf]

I am now convinced that Uncanny/Precog is the best Shiv blessing setup

[dense hollow]

i bind mouse5 to mark enemy

[broken bear]

Also I do triple the damage as the others

[latent belfry]

I have nades and special actions on mouse buttons

And my middle mouse press is broken

Until I get a new mouse

[urban gull]

Me too

[broken bear]

Yes

[dense hollow]

get an mmo mouse that gives you more buttons than a soundpad so you can bind everything in darktide there tbh

only correct option

[latent belfry]

I had one of these

It was cool but the extra keys were just another numpad

[steep vale]

Of the bait or jumping on scroll wheel

[latent belfry]

So I was binding all my controls to shit like numpad -

[crude matrix]

employed final boss

[broken bear]

The latter

[charred bronze]

Aren't those mice awful for anything that's not an mmo? Never used one

[urban gull]

I use VoiceAttack and shout BIG DICK GO!!! and it automatically registers Ability + Stim

[zenith fern]

Jump and edgebug with dodges for aura farm

[manic wolf]

It do be like that

[steep vale]

This is a safe place for me to admit idk which one latter means

[latent belfry]

You realistically don't use 90% of da buttons yea

[broken bear]

The second

[livid raven]

the second option

[broken bear]

The former means the first

[steep vale]

Oh ok

[torpid cloud]

once you get to the point where you have pickpocket and desperado rending, scum just takes off into the stratosphere in being fun
i also dont see myself getting bored since, as they are inherently a squishy class, you cant just turn your brain off
actually, great design

[crude matrix]

yea gimme a mouse with 4 side buttons that would be perfect

[broken bear]

Dw I won’t make fun of Ogryn vocab

[steep vale]

Im not an ogryn im just dumb 😔

[crude matrix]

then I could bind interact and sprint to the mouse

[broken bear]

Give me two pinky buttons

😼

[brittle sierra]

Wait I just realized do y'all take the rending talent for the ability?

[broken bear]

Desperado??

Yes

[torpid cloud]

I do
free damage

[latent belfry]

The most useful thing I did with that MMO mouse was use it to perform movement tech more easily

[broken bear]

Maulers melt from that ability

[dense hollow]

desperado's rending is 15% rending and 15% ranged damage

[urban gull]

Of course I take rending, how else do I eat Maulers

[brittle sierra]

@low harbor do you take it?

[crude matrix]

slowly and carefully

[torpid cloud]

i want an mmo mouse that doesnt have a full numpad on it but like
still more buttons

[crude matrix]

I think 4 is the right amount of buttons

[low harbor]

Take what

[steep vale]

My bonesaw on apple flavor 2 shots crushers and idk what i did to make it do that

[crude matrix]

any more is diminishing returns

[obsidian crown]

There’s a mouse for shooters that has 3 side buttons and 4 top buttons

[crude matrix]

take my hand in marriage

[torpid cloud]

i recon you crafted a good build

[brittle sierra]

Channeled aggression

[latent belfry]

Unless you're trying to setup specific inputs that you only want to use your thumb for

Yea

[low harbor]

No thx

[latent belfry]

No need

[low harbor]

What’s that again

[steep vale]

Impossible

[charred bronze]

If they were stubby switches it'd be perfect. Up and down inputs for each of 2 buttons

[brittle sierra]

25% rending on heavy melee when above 50% rampage

[low harbor]

Not worth imo

Except on like heavy sword maybe

[unreal stirrup]

@bronze glade i cannot carry these people

😭

[low harbor]

But heavy sword is not as good as Rashad

The best weapon for rampage is Rashad

[broken bear]

I lowk wanna try the diff weapons for a better anti crusher

[unreal stirrup]

my ass just want to unlock havoc

[crude matrix]

idk I find it more natural to press thumb inward than flick it up or down

that's too much brain use imo

[urban gull]

I dont use the scoreboard mod because I dont give a fuck what other people do, I just know I'm better

[steep vale]

You are hella based

[brittle sierra]

More like hella BAD 😈😈😈😈

[torpid cloud]

the crowbar is great i hear

[charred bronze]

I'd fwi. Up for common uses, down for less common presses

[steep vale]

Woah dude, not cool

[hazy vector]

Sounds like a certain way to be delusional

[latent belfry]

I must use scoreboard.... To ego.......

[hazy vector]

Scoreboard mandatory if you actually want to compare your builds

[brittle sierra]

The best anti crusher weapon is push knife

Always has been

[low harbor]

Nah

[dim moth]

my stamina tho :(

[torpid cloud]

i refuse to use scoreboard as that always leads to a negative mindset in me that i could do without

[steep vale]

I do not think bonesaw should do that

[urban gull]

Only delusional if I'm wrong but I know I'm right

[unreal stirrup]

scum have hella stamina and regen

[brittle sierra]

U complaining about stamina on Scum? Smh my head

[hazy vector]

god i hate people like you

[crude matrix]

nono he has a point
I'm literally the darktide goat and I KNOW it

[fluid yarrow]

I just wanna know how many I killed

[dim moth]

I want my attack speed :(

[steep vale]

Mfw i dodge and my bar fills up

[low harbor]

Well u do lose atk speed lol

[unreal stirrup]

vermintide 2 moment

[hazy vector]

https://tenor.com/view/doubt-intensifies-gif-14242619

[torpid cloud]

based and scumpilled

[urban gull]

honk honk

[low harbor]

U don’t need scoreboard to know if a build is good/bad because u could always run into a psyker in ur game who mogs u in damage

[low harbor]

Scoreboard is almost never an accurate representation of how good a build is vs another good build

[broken bear]

Same but I love the shiv skin

[obsidian crown]

I have a hard time believing a flame staff psyker outdamages HS desperado tbh

[knotty grotto]

what perks for crowbar?

[livid raven]

Kuli on vulture's dodge and Slippery Customer

[urban gull]

Carapace for bullying

[vocal saffron]

Flame staff venting shriek psyker however ,,

[latent belfry]

There is a mod called uptime I think that shows you how long all your talents and shit were active during the came and specifically in combat

[fluid yarrow]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-laugh-by-m-by-demi-gif-7077537185188239597

[brittle sierra]

If this is melee focus, take the melee node

If it is range focus, take the range node

[latent belfry]

That seems infinitely more useful for builds and build crafting than scoreboard

[bronze glade]

sounds like i won't want to reply on that lol

slippery customer that is

[steep vale]

Only mod id actually want is a ui mod that tells me when my stimm is ready

[low harbor]

Yea dodge doesn’t prevent damage cuz no i-frames

[urban gull]

I run Desperado Stub Pistol so I can melt the twinks I dont like

[brittle sierra]

I honestly don't like the stimm system

Because it's feels soo out of sync to my ability

I literally just pop it once my rampage is over so I can get rampage back up

The stimm itself I don't really care about 😞

[crude matrix]

psyker is always a good excuse to barrel someone and "forget" about saving them

[steep vale]

I pop it near the end of my rampage so i get extra rampage time and start charging both

[brittle sierra]

Fatshark fix dependency and my life is yours!

[urban gull]

For my beloved!

[low harbor]

All psyker deserves in this game is 95+ nerfs

[obsidian crown]

Your rampage cooldown isn’t affected by stim until it actually ends

[crude matrix]

good idea
100 buffs to flame staff!!!!

[faint fossil]

dude 7 different players joined

died

[crude matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/dumbledore-clapping-gif-25342009

[faint fossil]

and left

wtf is this

[sleek grove]

Powerburn or Speedload on a Shredder Autopistol?

[brittle sierra]

Patch newbs

[latent belfry]

Free weekend

[urban gull]

What is doubledoor doing

[brittle sierra]

Literally bought a game they will never play again in 1 week

[faint fossil]

one of them was a 1500 psyker

[crude matrix]

buffing psyker

[latent belfry]

I mean that answers your question there

[zenith fern]

Nah free weekend players

[brittle sierra]

Still newb, they probably played a year ago

[steep vale]

No the one cd reduction on melee kill gives more than .3 on hit and it lets me get like an extra 10 seconds on it

[brittle sierra]

Oh wow so Fatshark doesn't even get the money 💀

[trim wind]

pinning fire blaze away

[steep vale]

So i start rechanging my stimm with the extra time i get from the stimm

[obsidian crown]

What?

[latent belfry]

The idea is that people enjoy the game so much they buy it after trying it

[fierce grove]

trying out desperado needle pistol buiild, its kinda hard..

[latent belfry]

So they'll get at least some money

[urban gull]

I say we welcome the new players

[trim wind]

needle pistol not really a desperado weapon

[urban gull]

Barrel them off the map

[crude matrix]

I say we BARREL em

[keen timber]

Needle pistol isn’t good for desperado

[dense hollow]

free weekends usually get more money than just a discount

theres no fear of running past the 2 hour refund period

[fierce grove]

i'm just trying an experimental since it has a good aoe on mk 2 on the blue mode

[steep vale]

I was watching my rampage LAUNCH up while my stimm was active and idk if it was just a one off bug but i went from almost ending rampage to a full duration in like 4 hits

No elites either

[obsidian crown]

That’s probably from the class talent….

[fierce grove]

mainly crit/chem dependency as usual

[steep vale]

So i know it wasnt the like 1 second increase

[worn gull]

I know it's bad damage but I really think more folks should be running inspiring barrage, especially while leveling. Would probably cut the whining in half.

[brittle sierra]

Ha people enjoying getting flung around like a ragdoll

That's a good one

[latent belfry]

Y'all need to pipe down anyways, you'll never know the horror of rainbow 6 siege free weekends four years ago

[obsidian crown]

It diminishes….

[latent belfry]

[steep vale]

Ysah

[obsidian crown]

https://tenor.com/view/no-idea-jurassic-park-ellie-gif-19249741

[steep vale]

Idk man

The build did the thing

[worn gull]

Also at some point I need to try the autoguns on desparado

[ebon sand]

are 400 rank 3stam curios actually 3 stam these days, or are they still 2?

[steep vale]

I dont understand it

[brittle sierra]

Game probably has one of the worst learning mechanics in human history

[urban gull]

I've noticed I don't get hit by so many dogs anymore as Scummer

[dense hollow]

afaik its still bait

[worn gull]

2️⃣

[fierce grove]

i shove them all the same

[ebon sand]

sadge, ty

[urban gull]

As in they pounce but just like. Glance off

[dense hollow]

410+ or bust

[crude matrix]

yea

[keen timber]

I really don’t like the dual auto pistols

[urban gull]

Aim up

[zealous ravine]

ok frick the bonesaw the shivs r just so much better lmao

[keen timber]

Maybe they feel better with some spread reduction

[brittle sierra]

People who have double my playtime are still trapped in malice

[steep vale]

Oh hey vin

[charred bronze]

You are objectively incorrect

[keen timber]

Way too inaccurate

[vivid crystal]

has anyone else tried vulture's dodge

[keen timber]

Dual pistols goated though

[urban gull]

Aim down

[vivid crystal]

seems like it's not working properly

[idle lava]

Unsure what your playtime is, but dont call me out like that

[vivid crystal]

but not sure yet

[keen timber]

Heyo jello

[worn gull]

Run and gun + Spread reduce talent & stims = recon lasgun

[dense hollow]

it works

[steep vale]

Jello 😔

[brittle sierra]

Vraks 5 is probably the most cracked range weapon on Scum

[keen timber]

Yeah that’s what I’m saying

[low harbor]

dats normal

[manic wolf]

No, Im purposefully avoiding it because if anything is getting nerfbatted, its that

[brittle sierra]

I have 2k

[steep vale]

Y isnt even near o on the keyboard

[keen timber]

Vracks has always been cracked

[low harbor]

anyone who plays psyker that much in this game inherently is not good

[rare idol]

Bone saw brittle application can clutch double boss fights super hard

[obsidian crown]

You don’t use run and gun on auto duals

[frigid thorn]

What's a good backup melee weapon to run with Desperado build?

[rare idol]

Brittle spam, let the soulfire do the thing

[idle lava]

Oh thank god, im nowhere near that playtime

[steep vale]

Shivs i think

[worn gull]

Chem toxin makes every boss a joke it feels like

[crude matrix]

who knows
maybe they pop off and smyker all over the screen

[charred bronze]

The only thing I was struggling with was crushers, so I grabbed a crowbar

[steep vale]

Or just whatever you enjoy

[thorny ginkgo]

first game on your build and with desperado @livid raven

[keen timber]

Spread reduc though.

[livid raven]

damn you got a bit mauled there

[obsidian crown]

You don’t need it. It has inherent run and gun

[keen timber]

I don’t like the crowbar alt on crushers because of the little stick. Much rather a caxe

[obsidian crown]

Like if you have aim issues with duals, it’s a you issue

[livid raven]

but hey you won

[keen timber]

The bloom makes them awful at range

[obsidian crown]

That’s some damage taken

[low harbor]

it's ass at ranged no matter what, basically

[keen timber]

Yeah

[latent belfry]

If you need range switch to stub pistols

[keen timber]

That’s why I don’t like them

[keen timber]

I did

[severe zephyr]

jesus leveling this class it's being a pain in the ass

[latent belfry]

You're not using autos for ranged in anycase

[severe zephyr]

i miss health stim

[obsidian crown]

I can snipe snipers across the map with it, what are you talking about? Don’t hold down shoot for that shit

[crude matrix]

GOOD
make classes have tradeoffs

[latent belfry]

Run shiv knife or smth

[obsidian crown]

Burst tap fire

[low harbor]

unlike the certain 1 class

[charred bronze]

You can spam lights and still kill em with can opener. The stick can also get dodge canceled

[steep vale]

I press my button they spin and i wiff and alt f4

[livid raven]

psyker?

[crude matrix]

yea exactly can we remove v*t

[latent belfry]

Are the lights really any good on crunch mode?

[steep vale]

I like vet

[latent belfry]

I thought they were kinda meh

[bronze glade]

meh

[latent belfry]

Seems like a stat stick for applying brittle w canopener

[charred bronze]

Good? Fairly slow ttk and I prefer heavies but it's safer if there's a bunch of shit around

[latent belfry]

Than a way of dealing damage

[keen timber]

I feel like in that case I’d rather use the bonesaw and I’m not really a fan of that either

[crude matrix]

we can no longer be friends I'm afraid 😔

[steep vale]

:(

[low harbor]

obv

[dim moth]

the stick modes heavies are guaranteed to stagger crushers no matter what

[thorny ginkgo]

mannnn

[keen timber]

Oh that’s ok then

[broken bear]

First few shots are always perfect

Tap fire

[worn gull]

I like Psyker but being a hipster the class is too good now.

[crude matrix]

it's always been op bro

[latent belfry]

It's the minimum pellet count of non shotgun weps

Lmao

[crude matrix]

fym "now"

[manic wolf]

I found that to be great for one or two Crushers, but extremely problematic vs a wall of them

[broken bear]

Idk what that means but everything I see dies

[manic wolf]

I want to love the Crowbar, but man its clumsy

[broken bear]

So

[latent belfry]

Need more team play/a different approach

[keen timber]

This is why I use caxe

[charred bronze]

Knives give me carpal tunnel

[keen timber]

No stick good damage

[worn gull]

Yeah but you used to have to actually either disable or dodge shooters, you just stand there now with any weapon loadout and laugh it off. Psykers used to be rarer and go down a lot.

[latent belfry]

Basically if you are in range of an enemy and are using a shotgun a minimum number of pellets is always guaranteed to hit that enemy

[obsidian crown]

You can tell who’s new to fps shooters when they full auto at 50m+

[tender marten]

Gunker was in a pretty good place balance wise until the last balance pass ......... Scummer just feels like Gunker used to.

[latent belfry]

It's why arb horde shotgun can 2 tap snipers at its max range with headshots

[manic wolf]

More team play? That would mean getting pug matches with people who dont drool on themselves and dont wear velcro shoes lul

[latent belfry]

It may be 3

[charred bronze]

Why caxe if you're worried about crowbar second hit on heavy?

[keen timber]

No stick

Can just heavy spam and dodge back

[charred bronze]

Even on revved? I haven't used one in ages

[foggy lantern]

Hivescum feels extremely squishy at the early levels, even on lowest difficulty. I don't think I even want to raise it until I have the health kit ability, because boy oh boy, diff 2 players appear to be a special kind of handicapped.

[knotty cipher]

this penance is ass

[manic wolf]

You can actually dodge out of the second sticky hit on Crowbar, but again, clumsy

[charred bronze]

Oh you don't use the rev?

[keen timber]

Combat axe not chain axe

[charred bronze]

Ooooh

[keen timber]

Rashad

[latent belfry]

Taxe caxe and chaxe

[crude matrix]

that's the class identity lol
in exchange you get insane stamina regen

[sleek grove]

Best trick is running a shit Stim with the +5 sec duration, so you just spam it

[sturdy linden]

kinda have to dodge and take them down one at a time

or use rocket

[worn gull]

Health kit a bit if a letdown rn. If you want survivability the best skills are mostly down the tree and related to doing more damage. Inspiring barrage makes early levels a lot more survivable.

[keen timber]

Hive scum getting insane dodge regen is so nuts.

[high gull]

@novel oracle

[knotty cipher]

heresy without vulture dodge and pickpocket sucks ass

[tender bluff]

Hey, trying to get some feedback on this class from people who are actually good at the game. I see a lot of steam reviews saying its terrible, but lets face it, most people just suck at the game 😅

[keen timber]

I’ve been using momentum on zealot for dodge regen for ages and then hive scum gets it for free

[livid raven]

it's great

[keen timber]

Ales them basically immortal

[keen timber]

Class requires hands, can’t just afk like arbite

[livid raven]

the reviews are right in saying it's terrible early on

[keen timber]

It feels fine early

[foggy lantern]

I'm not complaining that it's a glass cannon. I'm complaining that it's overly fragile at the beginning, on lowest difficulty. It makes the leveling experience feel like ass.

[livid raven]

it's garbage fire early imo

[crude matrix]

"hmm yes I will play this class like arbites"
"why am I dying as the squishy class 💔 💔"

[livid raven]

the core talents are all in the bottom part

[foggy lantern]

This.

[keen timber]

Lowest difficulty is so easy it really shouldn’t matter what class ur on though

[charred bronze]

It is the most skill dependent class in DT right now. It's very squishy at low levels until you unlock deep talents.

[keen timber]

[high gull]

You say this but people crumple like paper still

[foggy lantern]

It does, though. Especially for new players.

[high gull]

[tender bluff]

Yeah, I was thinking it was probably the same people who can only do Auric on Arbites 😅

[keen timber]

True tbh

[heavy depot]

im having no issues surviving early on personally, only second diffuculty level so far but i think last mission i used a medicae once just to clear like 30hp

[steep vale]

“Guys im switching from zealot to scum why are overheads killing me”

[livid raven]

the first two levels are made for babies

[crude matrix]

the lion steals all the medicae charges

[sturdy linden]

Requires strong mechanics and fundamentals. Early talents are kinda shit. Once you hit like lv 18+ class starts coming online. Post like 25 95% of the power is unlocked and you start dunking the game (or you eat one burster and die)

[livid raven]

heresy at low level is really a problem as soon as two gunners appear

[dense hollow]

i managed to survive an overhead on scum in auric

[high gull]

Dead ass had a guy come in here yesterday saying he wish scum was like zealot

[steep vale]

Same

[keen timber]

I picked up arbite on the discount I am looking forward to easy mode

[high gull]

And I was so confused cause like

[steep vale]

Wurt

[keen timber]

I do want to try the shotgun out though

[high gull]

Isn't wanting class diversity what we want

[tender bluff]

Sounds like fun

[dense hollow]

don't forget the scum is glass cannon without the cannon

[foggy lantern]

I've literally never played Arbites, and tbh, I don't want to play Veteran + pet Zealot

[steep vale]

I like it

[dense hollow]

🎣

[keen timber]

I mean they kinda are. They trade bulk for ranged prowess I think

Both are high offences

[tender bluff]

They are more fun without pet imo

[high gull]

So sad my desperado scum can only kill a horde of ragers and not a horde of crushers in 10 bullets

I cry

[dense hollow]

so true

[charred bronze]

Requires a different play style imo. As zealot I can throw myself into ridiculous situations and prevail. Need to think more about positioning as scum

[sturdy linden]

the only similarity scum shares with Zealot is speed. Otherwise it plays completely differently

[keen timber]

I miss zealot fury of the faithful giving ranged weapons armour ignore for like 3 sec

[high gull]

The mobility is insane, my only issue is, is honestly getting tunnel vision and dodging directly into a crusher swing meant for my teammate.

[fierce grove]

most people do not have reading as a basic skill

[keen timber]

I feel like you can do that on scum too though

[fierce grove]

well

[foggy lantern]

Tell me you've never played Hivescum without directly saying so: The Post

[fierce grove]

reading comprehension rather

[sturdy linden]

Zealot can eat hits and has a free get out of jail card. Scum cannot.

[keen timber]

They have so much stam and dodge regen

[keen timber]

Not getting hit isn’t hard

[latent belfry]

I think I will play darktide today

[sturdy linden]

sure I'm just saying

[small cape]

I changed my build and this class feels a lot better now

[heavy depot]

zelot is a case of keep swinging, keep living, scum needs a little more situational awareness

[sturdy linden]

like, chip damage adds up REALLY quickly on Scum

[keen timber]

Playing with rampage I feel like I can just walk directly into the hordes and survive

[obsidian crown]

Idk I have a bunch of high int aurics with under 100 dmg taken on HS

[bronze glade]

rampage is peak

[high gull]

https://tenor.com/view/smile-hey-flirty-smolder-whats-up-gif-13824067

[latent belfry]

Thankfully chip damage is some of the easiest damage to learn to avoid

[obsidian crown]

And that’s on desperado

Like idk

How people say this class is squishy

[dense hollow]

because it's not arbites

thats their only argument

[sturdy linden]

sure, I'm just saying that for the average player, Zealot has WAY more safety nets than Scum

it's not even close

[charred bronze]

Feels different to me at a fundamental level. You can play hyper aggressively, but not recklessly, if that makes sense?

[analog zealot]

Hi!!! Does anyone know how to get that face tattoo? Cuz i'm trying to find it but couldn't

[sturdy linden]

(it me, I am average player)

[obsidian crown]

It feels way better than arbites to me 💀

[high gull]

The aquila forehead tat?

[bronze glade]

i mean it is, but you get tools to work around it

[analog zealot]

Yes!

[dense hollow]

im honestly happier with purchasing this dlc than i was with arbites

i got bored of arbites faaast

[foggy lantern]

People here are really handicapped enough to take my complaints about the early game experience for Hivescum as complaining that it doesn't play like endgame Zealot or Arbite.

My complaint is that the class doesnt start being fun to play until most of the way down the talent tree.

[high gull]

That's a good question actually...

Lemme check

[steep vale]

Isnt it like tattoo v

[high gull]

Maybe?

[latent belfry]

I don't think the concept art always lines up with the ingame cosmetics

[foggy lantern]

At level 15 or so.

[sturdy linden]

the fun for me was in learning to not eat shit in melee while levelling

[high gull]

I know vet has it

[latent belfry]

There's an Aquila one that goes over the eyes that I use

[bronze glade]

until then dodge, slide and use cover

[broken bear]

Prolly a combo of hyper crit bug and/or they are bad at the game

[charred bronze]

Do you have the melee immunity on slide talent?

[analog zealot]

Dang it- Thanks tho It's the same thing like cool Vet art again 😔

[broken bear]

I mean

That’s not hard to get to

[high gull]

Aye when you hitting 30?

[dense hollow]

i didnt have fun with the class til level 15 but i also didnt have fun with most of the other classes til level 15

[high gull]

We gotta run some aurics

[shadow umbra]

is it just me or is stim pack bugged?

[broken bear]

Tonight I think

[obsidian crown]

Yeah I just took off that melee perk for desperado anyways since I’m like 95% shooting

[shadow umbra]

i went a whole mission

and i couldnt use it

[fierce grove]

me when accidentally flinging myself off a ledge into a room with a reaper and 5 gunners

[steep vale]

How the hell did i max before you

[foggy lantern]

I only just got it. You can physically only get it at like, lvl 10 or so.

[broken bear]

I’m like level 23 rn Argus

[high gull]

Word

[broken bear]

I have a job.

[steep hatch]

desperado is good but i had way more fun with rampage

[steep vale]

Me too….

[high gull]

Come join my auric maelstroms then

Ez fix

[obsidian crown]

So do I and I hit max level 2 days ago. You caught lacking.

[fierce grove]

i like the stim builds

[frigid thorn]

For the bonesaw, what perks do you take, Carapace/Unyielding?

[broken bear]

I also slept for 12 hours on release cuz I was up for 48 hrs

Prior

😹

[cedar cairn]

Hive Scum is easy as soon as you unlock Nimble
As a Shout for Veteran and Holy Revenant for Zealot

[obsidian crown]

I’m so torn

[latent belfry]

I just haven't been playing dt much

Idk why

I'm only like level 17

[obsidian crown]

Keep playing hive scum or the new bf6 update that just dropped? Choices. Choices.

[dense hollow]

easy choice for me

i can run one and cant run the other

[steep hatch]

args never invites me to do auric maelstroms

this is because they don't know me

[latent belfry]

Also been having my ass kicked on the class 💔

[obsidian crown]

Rip

[charred bronze]

It is harder to play at the lowest levels than any other class save psyker maybe.

But it's also very skill dependent. The more knowledge and skill you have, the more you can exploit scum's main strengths. It'd be hard on new players for sure

[high gull]

That's weird scum doesn't have it

Cause like...

[broken bear]

@high gull bring me into a damnation match so I can level faster

Plz

[steep vale]

Ah real

[high gull]

Vet def has the tat

[foggy lantern]

I wouldn't call it easy; this talent puts you on par with baseline vet or Zealot depending on build.

[manic wolf]

Can make Crowbar two-tap Crushers, so thats nice I guess

[high gull]

Nah we going auric

I need to finish this event

[cedar cairn]

Scum wants to switch between aggro and defensive depending on whether they have Desperado up

[high gull]

I want them 500 free aquilas

[broken bear]

Cmon one damnation one auric

[high gull]

Fine

[broken bear]

Thanks babes

Love ya

[high gull]

Do I have you added?

[broken bear]

No clue

[latent belfry]

I wanna play w y'all but I'm too low level tbh

[foggy lantern]

I agree with you. About the time I got Nimble and my crowbar, the class for sure got easier to play

[steep vale]

Argus plays darktide?

[latent belfry]

soon

[high gull]

No

[charred bronze]

Use it well and you'll notice a difference. You'll really start feeling better about the class as you get into the 20s. Emphasize the talents at the bottom of the tree, then backfill nice-to-haves

[high gull]

[latent belfry]

We ❤️ crowbar

[fierce grove]

all this chat's about is desperado or rampage, stimm supply enjoyers rise up 😔

[high gull]

I just larp as a darktide player

[high gull]

I gotchu doc

[steep vale]

Yeah thats what i thought lol

[latent belfry]

You're my fav ironic darktide player

[sleek grove]

Meh, Shredder isn't that great with desperado

[cedar cairn]

Fall back and play crowd control while Desperado is charging and then make charges while it's up
Aggro and execute all the gunners who can't harm you so they don't murder your teammates who should be controlling the Crushers and Bulwarks

[bronze glade]

as if there's anything to enjoy about stimm supply

[odd jetty]

Are the Pistol blessings Speeload and Run n Gun? It seems like Crucian Roulette would be nice

[latent belfry]

I love being toxic

[vast surge]

What perks are y’all running on your curios? Gunner, tough and CDR?

[obsidian crown]

You destroy bulwarks tbh

[high gull]

What's even better

[obsidian crown]

You have so much mobility that you can run around and shoot

[latent belfry]

Toughness cdr always, revive speed and 1 gunner

[fierce grove]

i love my uptime

[latent belfry]

I thought toughness stim was bad?

[analog zealot]

I'm SO disappointed- Thanks tho!

[sturdy linden]

huh, why this

[bronze glade]

it's great

for the penance

[worn gull]

I'll enjoy it more once they fix the deployable/dependency antisynergy. In the meantime I do enjoy deployable adrenaline, giving 20% str and atk spd and rending to the whole team is bananas

[fierce grove]

i was gonna do chem dependency with shivs but actually this makes more sense

[high gull]

I can spam my crate endlessly because of sample collector

[latent belfry]

It's only coherency toughness tho

[high gull]

So I said fuck it

[fierce grove]

wait what

[sturdy linden]

no I mean more, why toughness branch

instead of CDR

[high gull]

Rending + Dmg + dmg reduction + 50% toughness each crate drop

[latent belfry]

Oh do you just never use it on yourself

It's only a team use

That actually does make sense

[worn gull]

The crate doesn't give you dependency stacks 🙁

[high gull]

Sample collector and the box talent that insta cooldowns my box when my stimm is ready

[fierce grove]

WHAT

[sturdy linden]

hmm.. and are you taking all 3 subnodes of the crate?

[high gull]

I'm a tox chemist

So I'm always dealing tox

[fierce grove]

thats so sad

[sturdy linden]

trying to understand, haven't tried crate at all yet

[latent belfry]

Send me your build pls

[high gull]

It's a personal thing

[cedar cairn]

True but they're annoying and they take a second

[high gull]

It's a modification of a build someone else made

[bronze glade]

it's pretty ass

it doesn't even synergize with its own keystone

[sturdy linden]

yeah I'm gonna try it on a crowbar-adrenaline setup so I have a fallback if it flops

[worn gull]

They neutered it last second because of it enabled a cheese but until they figure out how to make it work you basically need to find another keystone or go without keystones at all as a chem build

[bronze glade]

yeah adren is the best keystone option for crate

[eager hull]

including melee hits?

[sturdy linden]

if box fails then shrimply bonk

[high gull]

This is a full support tox build

Needler because obviously

[dim moth]

woe 7 toxn stacks upon ye

[latent belfry]

Thank ya thank ya

[high gull]

The adrenaline node is for the saw

[bronze glade]

i like that. i hate the radius

[sturdy linden]

this is giga weird lol

[high gull]

So I'm not fully caught out

[high gull]

Sometimes weird works mane

I apply knock back tox on blackouts

Box applies tox

[sturdy linden]

yeah I guess, we all have our quirks

[dense hollow]

im running double barrel and bonesaw desperado

[high gull]

Gun applies tox

Saw applies tox

[frigid thorn]

Do you still build the Vraks as 5% crit chance+unyielding/Dum Dum+Deathspitter like on Veteran?

[sturdy linden]

(me not picking slide immunity because I don't dodge slide enough for it to be worth)

[latent belfry]

DB real.....

[dim moth]

prob speedload

[worn gull]

Giving 20% atk speed str and 15% rend to the whole party is very strong though, I think the crate will gain favor over time

[vapid void]

How do you regen your blackout nades?

[dim moth]

scum heavily values reload speed for desperado uptime

[sturdy linden]

how's it going? I tried one game with this but my team folded early on and I couldn't clutch either so didn't get to experience it fully. Reload felt a bit slow.

[manic wolf]

Seriously, we need a patch yesterday for this Burster issue ¬.¬

[high gull]

Saw cleave kills

The saw push is a horizontal swing

So I just push swing

[dense hollow]

it reloads fast enough if you use both barrels and get kills with both barrels

[sand tendon]

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/hive-scums-nimble-talent-reduces-dodge-time/115867

in case no one has seen it yet

[dense hollow]

and the 30% extra reload speed on the talent tree for close range kills

[dim moth]

oh I put deathspitter on mine instead of scattershot

[sturdy linden]

ohhh so you're doing secondary fire each time eh

[dim moth]

65% crit chance is enough imo

[knotty grotto]

how do i check my event progress again?

[dim moth]

yeah you have infinite ammo so why not

free damage

[sturdy linden]

would Manstopper work instead of Scattershot

[dim moth]

I tried manstopper

I don't think you actually benefit from it as much as a damage blessng

simply because of no flechette

so it's not very consistent

[sturdy linden]

I have a very stupid question - does Deathspitter stack?

[steep hatch]

what blessings /perks are you running on saw? I'm trying to like it

[sturdy linden]

or is it just perma +6.5% str

[small cape]

Is there a way to make the dual pistols fire full auto (just holding the trigger) on Xbox? I have finger issues

[vast surge]

Not to my knowledge

[crude matrix]

vote nitoric acid as darktide dictator 2026
i promise to barrel all psykers

[dense hollow]

i have crit somewhere close to that value with all buffs active but idk if i should swap out scattershot for deathspitter

is it just 6.5% strength as displayed?

[shadow umbra]

uuggghhhh this penance sucks

[wanton prawn]

How important is crit to crowbar?

[dim moth]

stacking 5 times as displayed yes

[near mauve]

I love hyper specific penances

[dense hollow]

stacks 5 times?

i had no idea

[sturdy linden]

it stacks!?

fucking

[wanton prawn]

Quickest way I found was to get get Regain, then go for Chem fortified keystone and just use it whennever your toughness gets low.

[tawdry tusk]

is it possible to disable stim visual effect?

[dim moth]

I swear it used to say that it does

[high gull]

Probably with mods

[dim moth]

I have been using the enhanced descriptions mod for so long but on god I swear deathspitter used to mention that it stacked

[dense hollow]

i was about to switch to it when you said it stacked

[fierce grove]

no cleave blessings?

[dense hollow]

but unless both gameslantern and ingame are wrong i think it is just that 6.5%

[fierce grove]

interesting

[high gull]

Got the cleave talents

[dim moth]

but yes deathspitter stacks up to 5

so 32.5% strength

[sturdy linden]

[worn gull]

It's dumb but you can do it in like 3 games spamming stim crate

[sturdy linden]

horseshit

[dense hollow]

oh okay

i got fatshark'd again

[sturdy linden]

why do they make garbage blessings look good and great blessings look crap

[dense hollow]

reminds me of all or nothing stacking up to 5 times

[lavish bronze]

Doom gameplay

[high gull]

I highly encourage people to experiment tho, not enough stimm box enjoyers out there

[dense hollow]

i was running scattershot because i was under the impression it was only 6.5% instead of stacking 5 times

[manic wolf]

Ten bucks says I get quickplayed into Torrent again with three people who will summon DH instantly upon finding an altar

[high gull]

Would be nice to feedback experiences and ideas off others

[small cape]

Pain (literally)

[dense hollow]

You could also quickplay into an event map and the servers boot you out whenever the twin spawns alongside a captain for no reason

[sturdy linden]

also what happens if you use the clip size talent to get 3 rounds and then use Both Barrels and try to use secondary fire

[slow swan]

Hey guys I’m running a melee chem build, you think spur 5 is worth it? Or should I put some points into cooldown?

[dense hollow]

replied to wrong person

whoops

[sturdy linden]

do you shoot all 3 rounds?

[dense hollow]

you shoot 2 rounds

[sturdy linden]

fiddlesticks

[dense hollow]

but you can shoot one round and then two rounds after

if you want

[sturdy linden]

triple barrel would be funny

[dim moth]

funny gun

[dense hollow]

i love the thing

[vernal sluice]

The dumb barrel

[dense hollow]

i ran it on veteran alongside devil's claw because you could use the super fast regen krak nades to compensate

[latent belfry]

The level 20 skin for the DB is prob the best in the game tbh

What a glowup

[dim moth]

yeah because it uses one of the double barrel's 2 unused mark models instead

which gives it the long barrel

[slow swan]

Would the last speed node bottom right be better than the cooldowns?

[sacred sierra]

Hows stim supply in havoc 40? bad? good?

[dim moth]

blight spreads exists

so corruption immunity stonks are at an all time high

[sacred sierra]

cool! Im leveling the class rn, was enjoying the stimm supply play style, but was worried it might suck later on

[latent belfry]

We must invest in less purple juice

[sturdy linden]

I wish we had a difficulty tier between havoc and aurics

which had the non-shitass modifiers and also quickplay

[latent belfry]

In general dots are amazing in higher tier play

[shadow umbra]

after one full auric maelstorm, this is the amount of progress I have made

Man fuck this penance

[woeful hill]

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/hive-scums-nimble-talent-reduces-dodge-time/115867

[honest shale]

Real

[zenith fern]

Does one mission
Already at 10-15% way of the penance

"Man this penance sucks ass"

[fair oar]

What is cartel special

[zenith fern]

Stimms

[vast surge]

You missed the first pic they sent

[shadow umbra]

buddy, look

[zenith fern]

Clearly not used enough smh

[shadow umbra]

before auric maelstorm

and after

[vast aspen]

What blessings should I use of the shivs for a Rampage Chem Depen build?

I have flesh tear and uncanny on them rn

[unreal stirrup]

i love new event

[bronze glade]

sooo who is right?

[woeful hill]

well

its uncertain

but if this is correct

then the dodge buff actually halves your dodge frames

[latent belfry]

Hard mode

[woeful hill]

doing more research

[high gull]

Btw I changed the stimms and build up a bit more

[manic wolf]

Uncanny/Precog'

[terse creek]

Ugh, casuals 🤢

[misty condor]

uncanny on the shivs seems shit

[vast surge]

Dreadful

[vast aspen]

It applies to toxin stacks

[high gull]

https://tenor.com/view/dodge-duck-dip-dive-feelings-gif-15411527

[obsidian crown]

is stability fine to dump on needle?

[sturdy linden]

wow an actual good team

[vernal sluice]

yes

[latent belfry]

Oh?

[unreal stirrup]

desperado

[vast aspen]

Reginald recommends dumping damage actually, since all its damage comes from the DOT

[unreal stirrup]

also knife is so much better on scum vs zealot

[unreal stirrup]

also because i finally get out of heresy hell

[obsidian crown]

i''m not dumping dmg for futureproof reasons

[vast aspen]

Real, lol

[high gull]

Lmao yeah I swapped some small nodes and a single blessing around

[unreal stirrup]

wdym future proof

[mighty belfry]

Not the needle pistol singlehandedly culling any concerns that hive scum isn't havoc viable

[sturdy linden]

I wouldn't dump stability on Needle Pistol

it has kinda shit spread

[mighty belfry]

By the emperor it is so good.

[high gull]

Also I swapped toughness on the stimm for CDR and a wee pinch of speed

[unreal stirrup]

there no reason to not dump damage on needler

[plain oxide]

I'm interested and drooling all over myself

[obtuse star]

Is anyone else having issues with the 1000s at full stacks of chemical dependency, just did a full mission at full stacks and it didn't count

[high gull]

So now it looks like this

[leaden fable]

More for me then

[plain oxide]

I NEED THIS

I wanna gnaw on dog treats I don't CARE

[terse creek]

Nastiest shiv skins, real scum use the “Scratch and Snick” skin

[leaden fable]

It doesn't count if you use the med crate thing to apply

[plain oxide]

Literally just pipes

[zenith fern]

sugar cane looking

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/G51wR3iWwAAjM92.gif

[obsidian crown]

?????? i have 22 stab now and it's pinpoint, what?

[plain oxide]

Yum

[terse creek]

Bloody pipes

[latent belfry]

Sanest scum

[sturdy linden]

when hip firing?

[tepid compass]

I was skeptical of what everyone was saying about needle pistol before unlocking it but after trying it feels like most OP part of hive scum’s kit. Hope it doesn’t get hit hard with nerfs

[obsidian crown]

why the fuck would you hipfire this

[plain oxide]

Gnawing on the piece of plastic

[sturdy linden]

sometimes I turn a corner and there's a gunner embankment dead ahead about to open up on me, so I fire a few shots and retreat. Poison kills them off

[mighty belfry]

I do it to take quick pot shots at enemies in close range

[plain oxide]

Or glass

[sturdy linden]

in those scenarios hip fire good

[obsidian crown]

you can quickscope bro

[high gull]

Glastic

[mighty belfry]

You don't wanna wait for the ads sometimes.

[mighty belfry]

Still gotta wait. That split second can make a difference in this game.

[sour pendant]

https://tenor.com/view/train-wiggle-gif-24702710

[high gull]

@broken bear Did you still wanna run damnations or naur

[obsidian crown]

nah, ii''ve never had issues wiith that 💀

[broken bear]

Yea but I’m at work dawg

[obsidian crown]

I'm dumping it

[broken bear]

I’m off in two hours

[high gull]

Call your boss a bitch ass and leave

ez

[calm trellis]

that scum grindset

[leaden fable]

Obviously just quit smh

[obtuse star]

Nah i was using the stim

[slow swan]

Hey homies, any suggestions? Should I go full bottom right or keep the cooldown?

[umbral fulcrum]

I heard launcher is buns?

[fair oar]

i would remove some. 71sec cd yuck

[plain oxide]

Nah you just don't know how to use it

[main elm]

What are your favorite desperados weapons ? Anything unusual beside dual autos/stub and IAG ?

[unreal stirrup]

needler

[plain oxide]

Don't aim at the front, aim in the middle if you can

[dense hollow]

double barrel for style

[obtuse star]

Needle gun 👀

[umbral fulcrum]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aapn5JZr7vQ&t=380s This vid came across my feed thats why I wanted to ask

[vernal sluice]

I fucking love the agripinaa braced autogun

[steep vale]

Build variety is so cool

[vernal sluice]

speedload/deathspitter for blessings

[plain oxide]

ROCKET MY BELOVED 😔

[steep vale]

Genuinely love how much scum has

[main elm]

Does it work well ?

[trim wind]

Rocket launcher is good, just the other two are better (in different ways)

[vast aspen]

Its fine, its really only held back by ammo

[trim wind]

Also just don't listen to tanner in general

[tepid compass]

Needle pistol = moonfire bow

[sturdy linden]

obligatory repost

[trim wind]

Hagbane

[umbral fulcrum]

Thanks for the advice guys!

[high gull]

@latent belfry Toxin so strong it was chunking the CSpawns hp while I was downed

Bro's hp was just tanking while I waited to be rezzed

[unreal stirrup]

toxin definitely getting nerfed to shit

on one hand i want it as is because funny

[high gull]

@latent belfry These are the changes I made

I got rid of a few nodes and slapped a shit ton of cleave on the saw

The CDR is not for me tho

[steel granite]

I'm using this build. And so far it seems decent https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a077be66-a1c9-4623-aa8c-3ce4af979bbd/crackhead-john-wick-high-havoc-build

Tho its got some questionable nodes

[high gull]

It's just to help my teammates out

[fast wind]

I had a similar sort of deal

middle keystone is good with stim pack

[high gull]

We must continue to refine the chem build

[fast wind]

I lost the explosive box though

[crude matrix]

average tanner engagement farm post tbh

[fast wind]

half the time it blows up on no enemies anyway

[high gull]

I usually sprint into a horde and drop it

And just shove

While I got my buffs active

[fast wind]

I usually place it before trying to get it on my teammates

[sonic pumice]

With how busted chem bomb is, no wonder people would say that rocket is weak

[sturdy linden]

there's a difference between "weaker than" and "weak"

[fast wind]

I love the rocket I dont care what people say

[dense hollow]

yeah like hyper critical not working with your guns (intended) and disabling your onhit melee toughness from the toughness node (not intended)

[sturdy linden]

it also has a different use case

[fast wind]

chem bomb is ridiculous though

[sonic pumice]

What's the optimal rocket usage? Can you elaborate like me Ork?

[dim moth]

rocket isn't a bad blitz relative to other classes

[rotund agate]

I would use rocket more if I didn't have to waste 2 points just to get a third rocket...

[dim moth]

but blinders and chem nades are like

[fast wind]

rocket is worth it for this line alone

[sturdy linden]

Krak Grenade but ranged

[dim moth]

god tier blitzes

so

[sturdy linden]

[high gull]

Truly