hivescum-class

[novel oracle]

holy shit im going to kill myself

[jaunty copper]

I may have to consider swapping from pistols to smgs cause god damn lmao

[zealous basin]

what blessings do u guys recommend for needle pistol

[neon fern]

i was in the event and an arbites dog pushed back 2 burster i had shoved into me

classic

[novel oracle]

stripped down then a crit chance blessing

[dim moth]

easy build for leveling
have to be nearly level 30 to make it

[raw kettle]

It only works on the stimm directly I double checked

[limber cradle]

Thanks

[torpid cloud]

Wouldn't the revolver actually work wonders on the scum
Maybe not for horde clear but for elite squads
Mmh

[novel oracle]

i have to keep making clips of these

[main trellis]

exacly ikr? I'm not even yet 30 and i see how busted the class can be despite certain weaknesses (which can be reduced btw)

[zealous basin]

I figured stripped down also ty

[novel oracle]

to send to the enemy designer

[warped grove]

Just uninstall by this point im so sorry you get the worst luck 😭

[novel oracle]

to tell him to fix this shit

cuz if i have an overwhelming amount of these

[novel oracle]

its no longer a fluke

[zealous basin]

do the dot procs crit ?

[warped grove]

Was this on the playtest or random matches?

[novel oracle]

that was on the media build

[compact mural]

run'gun and stripped down

[robust sable]

Pre-Release Media Build

[novel oracle]

if it was from the playtest, i would have broken my NDA

[warped grove]

Ohh

Bruh

[calm aurora]

at least lvl20 for the needle pistol and expect you to have full mastery on the taxe which is not properly crafted to abuse rampage + bm...

[random shuttle]

i do love

[calm aurora]

and like bro, you need help to lvl until you're around 15

[random shuttle]

how all stats on Covid Gun

[calm aurora]

not after

[random shuttle]

do not matter like at all

[mystic bolt]

Hear me out desperado needle pistol build 🤭

[warped grove]

I cant wait for the influx of Mr. E boot lickers on the subreddit begging for Desperado buffs before trying it themselves 🥀

[novel oracle]

needle pistol doesnt proc like 90% of the ranged talents

[mystic bolt]

I know it’s why it’s funny

[iron patrol]

ammo does, stability helps ever so slightly and mobility for once actually isnt worth dumping

[random shuttle]

I did a few matches with Brauto Despacito

and it was awesome

But I love Brauto

[neat musk]

Chainsword low key fun with rampage

[warped grove]

My beloved fent pistol

[neat musk]

I did Infantry Auto despacito and it felt awesome

[robust sable]

Rampage is lowkey fun

That's it

[main trellis]

nah he foolish; comparing pears to apples (kraks to boom bringer) is not the way to describe the power lv of the new stuff

[robust sable]

That's the sentence

[turbid fulcrum]

Which is a shame. I want to main this weapon but currently there's just no right build for it. It's nice as a sidearm though

[novel oracle]

chem bombs are so overpowered but blinders are the true OG

[iron patrol]

crusher clad in armor with a big ass rock hammer vs crackhead wielding fent pistol, who wins?

[random shuttle]

also

and I really recommend yall trying it

[calm aurora]

i was talking about the chem nades only

[random shuttle]

Fan The hammer Revolver + Desacito

[robust sable]

Nothing will ever make me put down my Boom Bringer

[zenith fern]

Blinders go hard, really better than i was expecting

[main trellis]

i'm yet to test chain weapons with it cause power increase
i wont get my homes up but... maybe...

[neat musk]

Will do

[warped grove]

Blackouts with chem talents are nice, 6 mini shouts which kill most things in a radius

[iron patrol]

blinders are such a sleeper, literally vet shout in a can

[robust sable]

Blinders with Pocket Toxin go harderer

[torpid cloud]

Funny you should show this, he just made a vid about how the class is underpowered

How did you get the damage on those things so high btw, not running dependency?

[random shuttle]

Trigger Despo, and just unload barrel after barrel

[main trellis]

tbh... the best grenade for HS, not even chem nades cause CC

[calm aurora]

I mostly take chem nades to facilitate rez... which happens a lot during lvling

[compact oyster]

blackouts with pocket toxin is arguably the best pick

[random shuttle]

Free ammo, quick reload, big dmg

[hallow raft]

https://tenor.com/view/hunt-showdown-fanning-moment-meme-the-vehement-gif-11300852167022118504

[robust sable]

I've been meaning to make a Hive Scum Double Barrel build

[novel oracle]

i tried boom bringer for 1 game and the moment i was out 30 ragers rounded the corner the moment my rampage ended so my block was instantly broken

[robust sable]

I imagine Both Barrels + Deathspitter would be moderately humorous

[warped grove]

You tried Scum on havoc yet?

[south ice]

bois how are ppl changing the color of their toxin or is it weapoin/cartel specific ?

[compact mural]

did devs said something about fixing so much non-synergy shit?

[dim moth]

the bonesaw has a purple one alt fire

[iron patrol]

its the cleaver, it has 2 modes blue gives brittle

[robust sable]

Yeouch-
Yeah, I imagine Blackouts are a safer pick to cover Rampage recovery period.
Boom Bringer feels comfy with Desperado though.

[compact oyster]

the bonesaw has brittleness on purple goo

[dim moth]

that applies brittleness

[main trellis]

HOLD THE PHONE
@novel oracle How do you have 7 blinders? you have like 5 + 1 from talent right? unless smth is wrong?

[novel oracle]

3veg

[south ice]

ah ight

[fast gust]

I guess Mr.E has to agree with his audience more than anything factual or tested

[dreamy hound]

this is the same man who thinks IAGs are bad

[robust sable]

Clicks and engagement

[calm aurora]

https://tenor.com/view/omar-coming-thewire-the-wire-gif-14454117

[dreamy hound]

are we really surprised

[warped grove]

3veg?

[compact oyster]

i would like the boom bringer more if it instantly fired when you hold special and click

[random shuttle]

Maelstrom mod that adds extra blitzes

[compact oyster]

but instead you have a really really annoying delay between holding it and firing it

[main trellis]

not yet but CC is unparrarel if you wanna stop that pack of crushers in a bad spot (they should not be able to stun crushers...)

not to mention the only CC other than it is the boom bringer and that one is less reactive & does not regen

[random shuttle]

Boom Bringer feels much better with Sticky Hands talent

[warped grove]

Yoo Ogryn 2.0

[compact oyster]

the firing delay kills the blitz even with its extreme damage

[robust sable]

When Stimm Supply is working properly with Chemical Dependency, then we will never see Corruption ever again

[dim moth]

why exactly did this poxburstr kill me

[compact oyster]

if i click my mouse to shoot it should fire a rocket

[robust sable]

[main trellis]

dont forget your blinders can apply 3 chem stacks too

[calm aurora]

shout from rampage can stagger monstrosities, right?

[compact oyster]

not fire one 2 seconds after i clicked to shoot

[main trellis]

and you can have 6

that regen on killing 20 enemies

[warped grove]

I tried that on my first build, its nutty

Gonna experiment with it on havoc, most likely

[dim moth]

like first off...what pushed it back towards me? and second off I have danger zone mod I can see that I was well outside of the radius

[warped grove]

As for Havoc, having complete ranged immunity is insane

[dreamy hound]

i told it to

[main wagon]

Cole was saying earlier that the bursters have literally been deranking him because of their recent bullshit

[warped grove]

30 seconds of invincibility while you clear house

[main wagon]

Also audio bug makes them sound further away or completely silent

[calm aurora]

https://tenor.com/view/a-christmas-story-fragile-pronounciation-gif-3577147

[zenith fern]

Literally last frame and dont think that was near you

[dim moth]

yeah

[main wagon]

They also just straight up ignore pushes

Sometimes multiple

[zenith fern]

weirdly been not having that issue yet

[dim moth]

also funny dodging into a wall forcing me to jump at the start of the clip

[random shuttle]

New Poxburster Meta - Shoot them and kill your teammates instead.

[dim moth]

which didn't help

[zealous basin]

perks for needle pistol?

carapace yay or nay

[main wagon]

"oh sorry I was in desperado it was blue"

[random shuttle]

Carapace Unyielding | Stripped Away + %Crit Chance blessing

[robust sable]

Sacrifice the Smykers first

[main wagon]

Melee builds:

[compact oyster]

i will say powderburn terrifying barrage has been very fun to run on the pistols

[dim moth]

I just do +crit chance +sprint efficiency

I ain't holding that thing out in my hands

[kind zodiac]

this may sound kinda dumb but im not really a fan of the chivs cork screw design

[iron patrol]

ive honest to god just been slamming them with 2 fent pistol shots letting them detonate before arriving

[low harbor]

unyielding + flak imo

[zenith fern]

best tip

[hallow raft]

🫡

[calm aurora]

does the dmg perk affect the dot?

[dim moth]

okay so use the ones that are shards of glass instead

[dim moth]

yes

but I don't keep my pistol out after firing it

I go back to shankin' dudes

[zealous basin]

I got flak on my saw already

tbh

[low harbor]

I finalized melee build for hvs btw

[iron patrol]

special kill is a special kill, anything for the vulture stacks

[robust sable]

PSA:
Getting a crit and/or a weakspot hit will increase the amount of Chem Toxin stacked onto enemies hit by the Needle Pistol.

[random shuttle]

What's the flak for though?

[calm aurora]

so sprint eff, stam and stripped down is the way

[main wagon]

Why is "The Show" gang just...

[low harbor]

plasma gunner, gunner & mauler

[dim moth]

crits apply more toxi

[low harbor]

kills them faster

[kind zodiac]

wait the shiv has 2 designs?

[hallow raft]

https://tenor.com/view/stab-future-gif-12598389

[calm aurora]

wtf cares about +5%

[main wagon]

https://tenor.com/view/whats-up-man-nigel-sylvester-handshake-greeting-bro-shake-gif-22354355

[dim moth]

yeah

[stoic halo]

it has 2 marks

[robust sable]

There's 2 variants, yes.
The corkscrew shivs are primarily single target focused, while the other shivs are primarily cleave focused.

[iron patrol]

its sole job is to basically melt specials into goop, so yeah

[steep vale]

The mastered skins are the best imo

[stoic halo]

also the premium bundle has a pair of shears

[kind zodiac]

oh thats pretty sexy

[low harbor]

I don't like needle pistol that much cuz no stagger + takes time to kill specials + so many reloads

[robust sable]

I like the Commodore's Vestures shivs, lowkey.

[mystic bolt]

The shop also has shiv cosmetics

Which are good

[main wagon]

Man I wish I could gift these to people on the Mourningstar

[calm aurora]

if you want crit on the needler, takes desperado as a blessing

[robust sable]

It's nice having cosmetics that meaningfully change the look of your weapon.

[iron patrol]

5% higher chance to apply a extra tox stack, it actually does something opposed to anything else you could put on it

[random shuttle]

I do love the COVID Gun. 1 Needle kills most targets. Also super nice to melt Crushers.

[fast gust]

https://tenor.com/view/magic-how-do-they-work-magnets-ho-wtf-gif-15717467

[zenith fern]

https://youtube.com/shorts/UmpgdoZdwbk?si=p-jdDCtTiPlZUeJa
"Ah great, more slop content-"
"Oh nowait, is Reginald the boy. He is based"

[low harbor]

the carapace/unyielding dps is a big selling point imo

it actually is alr vs monsters

[livid raven]

was there a patch in the last hours

[calm aurora]

oh, you're talking about the synergy between stam, sprint eff and stripped down to just cruise through shooters as a melee build?

[iron patrol]

you can be a credit to your team with rampage shivs by just squirting fent in the monster and then going back to the horde

[tired prairie]

Quite likely event prep, but yes

[low harbor]

but after I got to lv30 and could do full builds I just went boltpistol for 1 taps

[livid raven]

ah makes sense

[winged bay]

It was a hotfix, the patch notes are on the forums, mostly crash fixes

[hallow raft]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-stab-stan-twitter-gif-23206453

[iron patrol]

yo hows bolt pistol for desperado

[compact oyster]

I fucking adore this class so much

Its SO FUCKING FUN

[low harbor]

not great?

[compact oyster]

WITH 0 SURVIVABILITY

[low harbor]

boltpistol on hvs is mainly a melee sidearm

[random shuttle]

I like Scummy too

he feels unique

so for me

FS cooked

[compact oyster]

my controls are also completely broken

[random shuttle]

I especially love how scummy unique weapons are all wacky weirdo strange tools

[compact oyster]

cant open up the tab menu anymore

cant cycle player or look around in rescue mode

[iron patrol]

fent pistol is so broken on both ends of the spectrum, in one hand, the DoT fucks so hard, on the other it fucking procs nothin

[reef ledge]

Hey, so, needle pistol dump stat is damage, right?

[robust sable]

Needle Pistol really needs a another look over in regards to how it interacts with Blessings and Talents

[livid raven]

it's whatever you want

[vernal sluice]

interact with an object ingame or in hub or restart ur game

[reef ledge]

I mean, its look right, cuz of damage.

[iron patrol]

technically armor pen as the damage does have a breakpoint for mk2 alternate fire pox spread shittery for general horde clear

[random shuttle]

TBH virtually any stat but AMMO can be its dump stat and you wont feel a difference 😄

[livid raven]

with the exclusion of ammo, it's really whatever you want

[zenith fern]

And then thammer zealot will take a millennia to kill a horde

[kind zodiac]

whats next changing veteran smoke nades for a DOT gas nade

[livid raven]

i wouldn't bother rolling any special stat

[stoic halo]

dump stability

[livid raven]

i would dump stability in the minimal chance fatshark changes how it works

[reef ledge]

Explain?

[robust sable]

Woe, 2 individual Scab Ragers in a horde of Poxwalkers be upon ye.

[compact oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-insane-crazy-spongebob-crazy-spongebob-meme-gif-8175035517870949905

[random shuttle]

I am No1 Crowbar Fan

[iron patrol]

it deals just enough damage to one tap kill a trash mob to spread the alternate fire tox

[random shuttle]

I just love the Crowby

[rose topaz]

anyone know what is the crit chance bonus on shiv?
i am assuming there's a hidden crit chance bonus like the combat blade

[iron patrol]

scum has base 10%

[low harbor]

hvs is the 1 class where I think gloryhunter not a bad choice on boltpistol

[reef ledge]

Crit/weak or just any point?

[iron patrol]

any, crit/weak one taps regardless

[rose topaz]

that's the base crit of the class not the weapon itself

i believe combat blade has 10%? or 15%? that's not shown in the game

[iron patrol]

you can magdump with max damage with alternate fire for horde clear but you are better off just melee

[lusty lichen]

Check the inspection? it is usually there.

[dim moth]

12.5%

[rose topaz]

unfortunately shiv has no critical stats in inspection

[alpine orchid]

Is there any point to the Damage stat on the needle pistol?

[dim moth]

placebo

[random shuttle]

no

[rose topaz]

ah alright thank you very much

[iron patrol]

very niche use for mk2 alternate fire

[alpine orchid]

I don't think I've used the alternate fire a single time so... point taken lol

[kind zodiac]

personal opinion be nice if the gun n run allowed you to reload while sprinting

[reef ledge]

So... stoppower dump is better, because it pierce armored any way, right?

[fast wind]

the other mk has a really good alt fire for hordes I keep it on explosive strain more than normal fire

[random shuttle]

Don't overthink the COVID Gun

[tired prairie]

Animation cancelling would be an issue if that were the case

[random shuttle]

as long as your AMMO is 80%, you're gucci 😄

[iron patrol]

yeah, anything with armor you are getting DoT regardless, anything without, damage is better for alt fire bullshittery

[fast wind]

with explosive strain its fist of the north star gun

[calm aurora]

https://tenor.com/view/chow-crowbar-gif-22055635

[abstract onyx]

Can anyone DM me good Needlepistol build? Im not at home yet thats why DM

[random shuttle]

I just love me Crowby

So versatile

the stance change is so smooth

[kind zodiac]

please dont turn this gun into the fist of rukt

[random shuttle]

the stagger on Peeling attacks so good

[rustic lava]

The only issue with the needle gun is it will give the kill to the first person to hits an enemy with it and not the person who does the most dot with it

[reef ledge]

Another question... what or when to take out of 3 in strengh branch in stimm tree ?

[fast wind]

the crowbar is essentially a warhammer with a beak point

[kind zodiac]

if anyone knows that reference you have my respect

[tired prairie]

Rending is typically what you want

[calm aurora]

so is the life of soulblaze psyker

[reef ledge]

Eleborate?

[iron patrol]

oh wow brunt is selling the only possible bad needle pistol

[tired prairie]

Finesse and Crit are kind of redundant

[random shuttle]

attack speed is always good

[tired prairie]

And the class wants more armour damage whenever encountering them

[random shuttle]

CDR is always good

[iron patrol]

is dual autos dump mobility?

[random shuttle]

yes

[tired prairie]

Yep

[zenith fern]

You are always good

[fast gust]

Too bad I'm penance hunting and must give 2600% toughness to people

[random shuttle]

[fast gust]

So it's only toughness attack speed

[vast plover]

new map on high intensity shock troop separates the men from the boys

[random shuttle]

Naaaah

I mean its cool

but nothing beats Gloriana First Event as the Filter map 😄

[vast plover]

as in seeing people do stupid shit

as opposed to thonk

[tired prairie]

You mean the catwalk?

[random shuttle]

Not even

[tired prairie]

Barrel Royale

[random shuttle]

the Catwalk is 'is this a team or is this a clown rodeo' check

But the first event on proper Spicy Game Mode

is what checks if you got players

or COD player.

[vestal jungle]

Is it just me or does the stim supply does not heal any corruption despite saying it does?

[random shuttle]

It clears corruption up to a wound segment

[vast plover]

no man's land is comparable to the gloriana causeway

[random shuttle]

wont clear corruption of a fully corrupted segment

[vast plover]

just cause people wanna have their power fantasy just running in lol

[random shuttle]

Can agree there

the open fields do test if your team isn't chickenheaded

[wind egret]

3 X 21% HEALTH CURIOS REALLY NOW. REALLY.

[vestal jungle]

Could you explain further please? I've used it last night with 1 wound being corrupted (using a +1 wound curios as well) and it just didn't do anything to mine or my friends corruption

[random shuttle]

ofc when I play Arbites I just walk into that open field and win anyway

[reef ledge]

What the difference in niddle marks?

[vestal jungle]

Just to confirm, corruption is the purple stuff on my hp right?

[random shuttle]

Yeah because a fully corrupted wound can only be healed with medstation/green stimm. The ability wont touch it. Only cleans corrupt from not-fully-purple segment

Yeah

[zenith fern]

Yes

[vestal jungle]

Ahhhhhhhhhh

[random shuttle]

Blue Modes:
mk6 - make enemies explode
mk2 - make enemies spread goo

[vestal jungle]

So it won't clear a new wound, only an incomplete wound right?

[warped grove]

Just so they can delay dying by 2 seconds

[reef ledge]

I dump collatheral, so enemies wont try to dodge and run from me)

[wind egret]

I just put all my money into Sire Melk's slot machines and got nothing...

[reef ledge]

Spread goo... on death?

[zenith fern]

Yes only the current not fully corrupted wound

[warped grove]

You got something, all I got was fucking wound and stam curios

[vestal jungle]

Thank you Kerfus! Appreciate the clarification

[random shuttle]

also just have small AOE on mk2 blue

[zenith fern]

With the stim supply

[vestal jungle]

And you too Gears

[zenith fern]

https://tenor.com/view/nuclear-explosion-nuclear-fission-warhead-meme-dog-puppy-gif-17955887116502039290

[compact oyster]

Btw blessing the shrines doesnt give event progress

[iron patrol]

which side for desperado bs

[kind zodiac]

does the bonesaw have cleave to it?

[vestal jungle]

Is it worth investing in any of the keystones? It feels like a lot of the blue talents above feel higher value for me

[random shuttle]

a very very low one

[calm aurora]

you want reload stimm no?

[random shuttle]

you need cleave blessing/talents to make it work

[warped grove]

The poxwalker after inhaling the chem nade:

[iron patrol]

i already got that

[kind zodiac]

yikes

[silver mural]

No but you should build cleave on it cuz it loves it

[vast plover]

attack speed + cd good for desperado

[random shuttle]

Vulture/Adrenaline are great keystones 😄

[iron patrol]

so kalma over wildfire?

[reef ledge]

Person above said - go Rending, against aromr, but maybe crit, if you have that one tallent node about left keystone

[calm aurora]

so mk2 better? or can you synergize mk6 with some stuff in the tree?

[vestal jungle]

Does vulture work on the needle pistols DoT ticks?

[vast plover]

ye unless you want kill things deader

[random shuttle]

I think the "general consensu" is that Mk2 is better for being a bit more versatile

[hot nexus]

Only issue is vultures doesn’t proc on specialists right now

[vast plover]

sometimes in my head i know strength builds are better speed/cd builds

[iron patrol]

mk6 is a shittier blinder nade

thats about it

[vast plover]

i doubt myself and also know strength just kills things faster

[limber cradle]

Im ngl I do not fuck with chem addiction keystone

[silver mural]

Tbf some very good players put the cdr stimm below the 2 damage vuff options

[calm aurora]

like?

[warped grove]

Youre not addicted enough then

[kind zodiac]

well guess the classics always work and by that i mean the chainsword

[robust sable]

It's basically not working properly right now anyway

The main intention is to be able to loop Stimm Supplies with it

but it's not giving you stacks of Chemical Dependency upon using Stimm Supply

[warped grove]

There’ll be fixed

[robust sable]

despite your Stimm being consumed

[robust sable]

Definitely

but I'm just saying how it is now

[calm aurora]

hive scam

https://tenor.com/view/dance-gif-13846171428380845472

[grand jewel]

you can do it better with just taking a low CD stim for the same effect a no stim stimm supply would give you

[kind zodiac]

now what was it for the chainsword again wrath, rampage, flak enemies and maniacs?

[grand jewel]

no point

why get the ability back if you have no stimm back to apply to the crate

[calm aurora]

wrath shred, especially on x13

iirc

you want shred as an anchor and some cleave

[kind zodiac]

ahhh thanks boss for the reminder

[calm aurora]

tbh, with rampage and other stuff you could maybe take the rampage blessing instead of wrath

[misty hearth]

Anyone aware of the differences between the Needle Pistol marks?

[grand jewel]

need a copy paste istg

one spreads toxin one makes them explode

[grand jewel]

do I remember which is which? no

ay

fucking stealing

[kind zodiac]

oooo niddle gun make enemies go boom?

[wind egret]

3 Years in, no curio rework, no polearm, no 2H chainaxe. Omnissiah has forsaken us.

[robust sable]

"Game sucks because Fatshark didn't give me these very specific things I wanted"

[iron patrol]

oh i suck with desperado

[unique pasture]

imo game sucks ass because of the constant backend errors I'm experiencing

[grand jewel]

skill issue

[unique pasture]

I bought hive scum and I'm excited to play but fuckshart said no

[grand jewel]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-laugh-by-m-by-demi-gif-7077537185188239597

[stoic halo]

sending packets now

[wind egret]

Game sucks ass because Sire Melk is asking me to remortgage my house to have a chance on his curio slot machines again...

[unique pasture]

send a pipe bomb to fatshark HQ instead

[stoic halo]

cutting sweeden off of the worldmap rn

[iron patrol]

i suck at desperado holy shit

[wind egret]

You can't suck that bad

[iron patrol]

actually managed to run out of ammo

[compact oyster]

Im free

[iron patrol]

in damnation no less

[compact oyster]

I never have to touch desperado ever again

[stoic halo]

lots of people don't realize how shit they are at dodging till they try desperado

[iron patrol]

no im good

[vast plover]

use gunslinger improved

[iron patrol]

i just, run out of ammo, in gun build

[stoic halo]

how

[wind egret]

Do you have pickpocket?

[iron patrol]

yes

[stoic halo]

you have 2 sources of infinite ammo

[wind egret]

Ammo ammo everywhere, and yet not a drop to spare.

[grand jewel]

skill issue

to kill a single elite or special and you can't even manage that

[iron patrol]

i am way too rampage-pilled to desperado appropriately

[wind egret]

What gun are you using?

[iron patrol]

its so over for me

[toxic dagger]

you literally cannot run out of ammo with pickpocket hahaha

[vast plover]

even more if vet has ammo regen

[iron patrol]

dual autos

[vast plover]

at that point constantly having empty ammo means you're doing stuff

[rare idol]

You can on lower diffs, there aren’t enough specials

[split halo]

am i missing a role to be able to post pics / stickers?

[iron patrol]

its damnation

[rare idol]

And elites and whatnot

Yeah on damn I had occasional ammo droughts

[iron patrol]

although probably doesnt help with the arbites dog mauling every shotgunner in a mile radius

[toxic dagger]

just ks the dog

[toxic dagger]

but ok fair enough

[wind egret]

Try Auric, the specials alone should give you infinite for sure

[toxic dagger]

I was thinking of my auric desperado runs

[rare idol]

On auric and mael it’s pretty easy to never run out

[iron patrol]

i cant, if i kill 3 it kills 6 while im dealing with walker horde or some shit

[grand jewel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1159845224634388512/1441815297794506823/RDT_20251122_1635326253338966886914647.gif

[stoic halo]

okay, ghost needle gun is funny

[wind egret]

M1 spam bonesaw is proving to be pretty good ngl

[iron patrol]

yeah no, im going back to rampage funny with my needle gun, i am not cracked with the sauce enough to actually manage ammo

[rare idol]

The “can’t get hit while sprinting” one is also good

[covert lagoon]

i really underestimated enhanced desperado. walking through plasma gunners and snipers is hilarious

[grand jewel]

manage ammo

[craggy jewel]

“Ignore ranged attacks”

How did you underestimate that?

[grand jewel]

its as difficult as hold left click

[iron patrol]

no but like, im so bad its impressive, i was magdumping like, 6 poxwalkers

[covert lagoon]

i didnt read it so

average zealot

[craggy jewel]

Infinite ammo as well

[rare idol]

The ranged attack ignore isn’t as good as ee 😢

[stoic halo]

some reaper firing everything and the sink at me. meanwhile i just *tink *tink *tink *tink and don't care

[rare idol]

Empathic evasion you can get really zero downtime such that you forget bullets exist, vulture dodge etc you got downtime every reload

[iron patrol]

my dumbass is so bad at moderation, i either hoard my ammo so hard ill never use my gun or i mag dump 3 poxwalkers every time and run out in record speed

[rare idol]

And if you’re meleeing 😢

[grand jewel]

🫃

[rare idol]

Sorry I don’t speak child 🤷‍♀️

[iron patrol]

wait, does the sticky hands tighten double barrel spread?

[wind egret]

Yes I love it

[iron patrol]

oh my god, flechette

[rare idol]

Yes, can stack with rum and gun for very tight shooting

[idle lava]

The bonus cd return on enhanced desperado does not state the kills have to be ranged, I've been thinking of just running desperado for the oh no all plasma gunner blobs and turning off my brain

[iron patrol]

i just 2 tap them with the meth pistol and walk away for a couple seconds

[rare idol]

It only reduces it by 5s apparently

[idle lava]

...meth pistol.

Yeah, 5s
It's still there, could also put the point elsewhere

[spice cloud]

Max?

[rare idol]

Are you not planning on shooting? Desperado is for shooting

[idle lava]

Rampage is, undoubtedly the best, unless your going gunrunny.

And sometimes. But, mostly stabbing.

I enjoy my Winnipeg simulator.

[iron patrol]

rampage doesnt say it cause fatshark fucked up but it does restore all toughness upon activation

[spice cloud]

I feel like my melee is still very strong with desperado amd after i use it i use my cdr stimm.

[vernal sluice]

rampage is awesome but I still personally prefer desperado

[compact oyster]

ok even a grey needle pistol is really good

[vernal sluice]

I love my stupid chud hybrid build

[rare idol]

Rampage line is way better if you want to do a mix

You can dip more easily into the tox stuff to juice you more

[iron patrol]

DoT isnt level or power based, it just fucks

[idle lava]

Yeah, I've been using rampage.

And ballache I 10000% messed up my hivers name.

Should have been something Winnipeg related.

[iron patrol]

mines trevor phillips

[rare idol]

Winnipeggy

[idle lava]

Oh, uh Winnipeg has like 18, reported stabbings a day

[iron patrol]

also these mfs are starting actually be comically evil

if they round a corner they just, dont jump

[rare idol]

You have five stun grenades and walked up to a mauler mid swing

[compact oyster]

does hotshot work on the needle pistol?

[minor mauve]

make my hive scum character
play 1 mission
immediately start throwing up irl

chat what does this mean?

[iron patrol]

i was more occupied by the walking bomb about to blow me to kingdom come to register it

[idle lava]

It's because you didn't pick water cartel.

[minor mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/drake-notebook-gif-20708336

[stoic halo]

clown gang rise up

[minor mauve]

i chose tread lightlys

[toxic dagger]

im doing iron riders rn

[stoic halo]

train gang also based

[tulip magnet]

the "ding" sound from the new event prayers has me tweaking

[idle lava]

That's not...awful cosmetically, we can't change gang later yeah?

[tribal apex]

is there a good hordeclear combo with the bonesaw?

[toxic dagger]

sure you can, you can change everything in the personality scourge

but you also unlock all of the gang cosmetics anyway

[tulip magnet]

at scourge, yeah probs

[idle lava]

Oh how is event, I'm stuck in steel press hell RN.

[warped grove]

Event?

[toxic dagger]

affiliation only affects one body tattoo lol. and its for fun.

[tulip magnet]

atonement

[toxic dagger]

ya new ingame event started

[warped grove]

Is it on rn?

[toxic dagger]

there was a hotfix this morning, no notes yet apparently

[tulip magnet]

ye

[idle lava]

And what cosmetics we unlock yeah? My stuff is purple.

[warped grove]

Oh cool

I was expecting a ping

[toxic dagger]

oh nvm here they are just no ping in disc https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/hotfix-82-1-10-1-patch-notes/115634

[tulip magnet]

there's a high-pitched charm when you finish an alter that freaks me out and makes me jump every time

[calm aurora]

https://tenor.com/view/oliver-the-great-western-engine-oliver-thomas-thomas-and-friends-chuckle-gif-24524688

[tulip magnet]

makes me think the alarm in my hallway chirped or something

[outer cobalt]

who here thinks dual bolt pistols would've been sick

[tulip magnet]

guy with two broken wrists

[fluid yarrow]

Tread Lightlies
For Lady Steel Raaaaah

[warped grove]

Put batteries in your smoke alarm

type shit

[toxic dagger]

lord magleviathan clears. such a funny name

[tulip magnet]

shit

[toxic dagger]

powder that makes you say "shit"

[tulip magnet]

beach that makes you old

[toxic dagger]

also cool

but i really dig the dual 1911s that we got

[tender marten]

Too bad the tree fix came in too late, rip all my builds lol

[compact oyster]

i have 0 clue how the altars work

i activate it get 100 points of progress spawns a boss then does nothing

[tender marten]

Three times now I've been caught unaware that my talent tree is empty as I drop into an auric+ match with zero talents lmao

[toxic dagger]

well you did it. that's what happens.

[tulip magnet]

sounds like you know how it works

[toxic dagger]

you pray for atonement and the moebians are like "raaaghhhh!" and fight you about it

and that's it.

[compact oyster]

bruh

[outer cobalt]

Nah dude
they each seem to have 7 shots (Maybe they get more? IDK the one time I saw them in action they had 14 total)
and they seem to be pretty big caliber
those are Deagles

[tender marten]

Exactly like religion

[toxic dagger]

ok double deagles

[lusty atlas]

what is the dump stat on the shivs for this class?

[toxic dagger]

that alliterates as well

let's go with that

[spice cloud]

1911s have 7 tounds

[tulip magnet]

still better than the last event that had pillars where you needed to beat on it for like 20 seconds straight

[vast yoke]

do these have to be done with cartel special or can they be done with stimm supply?

[fluid yarrow]

Mob

Always mobility

[grand jewel]

damage

its always damage

[compact oyster]

stub pistols are chambered in 45 acp

[fluid yarrow]

Why I outta

[tulip magnet]

stim supply seemed to make the number go up when i used it but unconfirmed

[spice cloud]

Early 1911s also didnt have stacked magazine

[fluid yarrow]

[outer cobalt]

OHHHHHHHH
I THOUGHT THAT MEANT "GAIN AT ONCE"
like yeah time to gain 2000% strength with ONE USE

[vast yoke]

i will do a mission and check if the numbers go up

[grand jewel]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-laugh-by-m-by-demi-gif-7077537185188239597

[toxic dagger]

I think 1911 is funnier though

[lusty atlas]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/971904116144095292/1298312105069514812/media-iv-text.gif

[toxic dagger]

because that means john browning is still taking names in M42

and that pleases me

[tender marten]

I believe it.

[astral canyon]

True

[fluid yarrow]

We haven’t found his STC

[grand jewel]

M2 browning probably still exists

[spice cloud]

Its pretty much a 1911

[fluid yarrow]

besides rogue trader stub pistol was just a 1911

[random shuttle]

Damn

[tender marten]

We still use the M2 in thw Canadia n Forces.

[random shuttle]

the event is fun!

[vernal sluice]

AI director is fucking evil today

[random shuttle]

Activating shrines summons bosses 😄

[toxic dagger]

heh the way the m2 browning was used by vietnam war soldiers to snipe mfers was an inspiration for how the ogryn uses the heavy stubber as a makeshift dmr

[vernal sluice]

endless crusher clown cars and double boss spawns on auric

[tulip magnet]

y'know what doesn't synergize with stimm supply for some reason? chemical dependency

even when it eats your stimm

[toxic dagger]

yeah that part of the tree needs more work.

not finished imo

[fluid yarrow]

I think the class is a little tooo glassy

Like I’m surviving but I feeler weaker than pre-rework psyker survivability wise

Besides that
I like it

[vast yoke]

yeah ik

[toxic dagger]

if you want it to stop feeling glassy, play desperado uzi

[lusty atlas]

Ngl I kinda hate how the stimm lab works, spending more points gives more cooldown

[torpid cloud]

To be fair, I am a W M1 person myself (as you may see, I'm an ogryn main) and I find the change of pace that is the hive scum to be quite refreshing

Then again
When I'm in desperado it is pretty much still W+m1

[tender marten]

And Desperado should really give you a token buff if your reload is started during the ult but finishes after it ends imo. Just for QoL.

[toxic dagger]

sprint at the speed of sound while killing everything

[random shuttle]

Just had a true duo Hi Int Auric Event

[spice cloud]

Class is fine its not fckn overtuned atleast

[fluid yarrow]

No

[random shuttle]

and it was a blast

[spice cloud]

Itsbok to be glass cannon

[astral canyon]

Itsbok

[toxic dagger]

yeah i dont think they should change the glassiness much imo.

[tender marten]

More like ass cannon. Cause I suck.

[fluid yarrow]

I like rampaging

[toxic dagger]

rampage with shivs is my favourite

[spice cloud]

Why u allways do me like that

[toxic dagger]

so mobile

[tulip magnet]

I'm liking saw with lots of cleave

[fluid yarrow]

Yeah not much still glass but rn it’s like
Sugar glass

[neon fern]

don't need more tankiness, need some work on the stimms and the right side ability

[fluid yarrow]

We need normal glass

[tender marten]

And the tacaxe

[silver mural]

music starts RUNNING AROUND AT THE SPEED OF SOUND

[tulip magnet]

rampaging saw was fun

[torpid cloud]

Rampage seems fun, I just wonder how bad the 7s debuff is

[neon fern]

not bad

usually when u get the debuff

[tulip magnet]

if it ran out, there shouldnt be anything around for 7s

[rustic zinc]

Did the scoreboard get fixed on the 3rd or something? I feel like when I tried this mod earlier it crashed when I elim'd something with chemtox?

[neon fern]

u already killed everything

[tulip magnet]

unless you goofed

[tender marten]

You can offset the debuff pretty easily.

[astral canyon]

Youre free to do the same to me if you ever catch me messing up grammar

[fluid yarrow]

Priories specials so they don’t rip your skull off

Besides that once you’re out of rampage the enemies are a little too dead to fight back

[spice cloud]

Im just typing fast

[main trellis]

I already noticed ppl not using certain talents that literally would reduce glassyness of the class but ppl never learn it seems
Its the veteran survival syndrome at its finest

[fluid yarrow]

I’m typing fast on a bouncy bus

[compact oyster]

Loading my needler with that pure strain mind destroying laser ganja

[amber sundial]

honestly 25% more dmg taken for 7 seconds isn’t that bad after the past 30 seconds with 25% less dmg taken

[spice cloud]

Im the german here its supposed to be me

[rustic zinc]

Unstated Rampage! debuff is it actually fully drains your stam too (I think? Pretty sure I saw that in test chamber today)

[fluid yarrow]

Yeah rampage isn’t bad

[fluid yarrow]

Yeah

[tulip magnet]

me loading my needle with air and aiming for arteries

[fluid yarrow]

I was hoping saw would be the fast melee weapon

I like fast

[tulip magnet]

it says that if you read it. Maybe they changed the tooltip?

[silver mural]

So what you are telling is it also gives me a 20 percent damage boost

[main trellis]

Only tough part is no stamina to push or sprint away if you wanna after rampage, rest don’t matter

[fluid yarrow]

Yes

[astral canyon]

Me loading my needles with orange juice

[spice cloud]

That nefarious evil sorcerer moongras.

[rustic zinc]

Nevermind, I'm wrong.

[main trellis]

Not for an experienced player that is

[tulip magnet]

read it in game. I just closed it

[silver mural]

Rampage stays winning frfr

[fluid yarrow]

Loading my shit with Ogryn spinal fluid

I see GOD

[tulip magnet]

putting a gene seed in one of the needles for a prank

[shadow umbra]

Tis but a scratch and the one that gives 50 toughness on toughness break are actual life savers

[fluid yarrow]

This cartel special got me asking the tithe rat for a hit of the boof

[main trellis]

And guess what; ppl don’t pick those

[spice cloud]

i feel ligtheaded

[main trellis]

Foolish

[shadow umbra]

Seriously??? They feel damn necessary to any build

[silver mural]

Gene seed stimm is how we get our space marine class of course

[fluid yarrow]

Thunder warriors class

[spice cloud]

Nah thats how we get the mutants

[shadow umbra]

A single space marine would just solo a mission

No teammates needed

[kind zodiac]

full team of hive scum is not the way to go

[amber sundial]

the evil trapper in question

[silver mural]

No they wouldn't, unless they get a name. But nameless marines die to sticks

[tulip magnet]

People might be used to the important toughness perks being at the top and not fully looking near the keystones

[shadow umbra]

4 honeybees vs 10000 wasps gameplay

[fluid yarrow]

Hive scum needs more cyber cosmetics

[tulip magnet]

Guy who calls beeswax "hive scum"

[fluid yarrow]

I need AUGMENTED PHYSIOLOGY

[rare idol]

Augment deez

[astral canyon]

5 days cooldown that carries over between missions

[spice cloud]

A space marine will die to a 14 year old cadian with a krak grenade

[swift abyss]

can anyone recommend dual auto pistol blessings

[silver mural]

But if you name the same marine titus they solo god

[spice cloud]

So true lmao

Ifckn hate titus

[tulip magnet]

What if you name the cadian?

[shadow umbra]

Blaze away + speedloader/pinning fire

[silver mural]

Named cadians still die lmao

[tulip magnet]

Just like cadia 😔

[silver mural]

But the named ones often last longer

[vernal sluice]

do melee kills restore blinder charges?

[tulip magnet]

yes

[silver mural]

Yes

But

[vernal sluice]

ty

[silver mural]

Be wary of hyper criticals and dots

[astral canyon]

Nah more like Malum Caedo

[shadow umbra]

Blinder lowkey is great for desperado builds

[kind zodiac]

useless fucking eyes of mine starting to get drowsy

[random shuttle]

Redditor: "Runs with Scum in front of 20 Ragers"
Activates ult - it doesn't give golden toughness and doesn't stagger all enemies.
Redditor: "Class is trash, so weak, smh, unplayable."

[vernal sluice]

my only dot on my build is lacerate blessing on my shivs

[tulip magnet]

i got very little blinder refunds when i was running it with saw because of the poison

[spice cloud]

Inject caffeine into eyeballs

[silver mural]

Caedo is on another level. Im convinced doomguy accidentally felll into a wormhole. That guy is fucking primarch level

[silver mural]

Should be fine, but bleed kills will not count towards it

[tulip magnet]

HeadOn

[vernal sluice]

Understood, thanks for quick response

[silver mural]

At least chem steals kills, maybe bleed is different

[spice cloud]

Thatll wake u right up.

[random shuttle]

I have 2000h in Dorktide and has been here since the very beginning my Dear Pal. I seen the CYCLE. I seen it many times

Then you add some VIBEtiders spewing their utter nonsense to the mix.

[astral canyon]

Its quite simple, he just has the advantage of being in the middle of the venn diagram between "named ultramarine" and "boomer shooter protag"

[spice cloud]

The cycle allways continues

[random shuttle]

Et Voila.

[silver mural]

Caedo is really stacking the deck smh

[cursive jetty]

I seen someone named Dr.House 🤣

[warped grove]

Im sad I didnt join earlier

[warped grove]

Vicostim

[random shuttle]

It's a great game

[kind zodiac]

would the boom bringer even hurt a space marine

[cursive jetty]

YES!! Homie was running all the drugs

[random shuttle]

nothing like Darktide out there

[silver mural]

Yes

[warped grove]

Duh, I have like 700 hours on it, I would know

[random shuttle]

no other horde shooter even gets close to the sheer high octane nonsense Dorktide gives

[spice cloud]

Idk why people think space marines cant die

[warped grove]

The humble Horus Heresy:

[outer cobalt]

No

no it would not affect a Space Marine

[cursive jetty]

Dude space marines are not even properly resistant to BULLYING!!!

[silver mural]

In storm of iron, a krak grenade almost kills the protagonist

[spice cloud]

Yes yes it would

[outer cobalt]

nah

[spice cloud]

Yuh

[shadow umbra]

Pack of ragers
Pop stim + desperado
Dodge slide backwards while shooting
Ez pz

[stray horizon]

Ogryns are stronger than space marines, and since you can bully stagger ogryns you can bully stagger space marines

[compact oyster]

Another teamwipe yum yum

[silver mural]

Also beasts of nurgle kill marines

And so do spawn

[spice cloud]

We would absolutely demolish a speees mareen

[silver mural]

And so do plague ogryns

[stray horizon]

Space marines would prob be at the level of the twins when it comes to strength and speed

[spice cloud]

Send him back in a casket

[tulip magnet]

who would win, space marine vs brain burst

[silver mural]

But darktide is a video game and warhammer protags in video games are absolutely too strong

[random shuttle]

I won against a Space Marine once

[spice cloud]

Yeah the psyker alone is enough

To kill most space marines

[rustic zinc]

Arm wrestling?

[random shuttle]

We were standing in line to buy a hot dog and I told him I was there first

[outer cobalt]

Space Marine runs into him at 50KPH
Psyker turns into a fine red mist

[random shuttle]

he let me go first because he felt intimidate by my double chin

[spice cloud]

Lol no

[junior field]

Fucking psykers man

[warped grove]

Are you on crack

[compact oyster]

space marine 2 cultists are a good representation of what would happen to us

[spice cloud]

More like psyker snaps his fingers and space marine turns into canned food

[junior field]

It’s about grade of psyker

[random shuttle]

As an Ogryn Main I disagree

[junior field]

The darktide psyker could prob kill a marine eventually

[spice cloud]

Easily

[rigid dock]

Space Marine runs into him at 50KPH
Psyker imagines a wall in front of him
Space Marine does his best Wile E. Coyote impression

[outer cobalt]

I think it's whoever gets initiative wins

[junior field]

Veteran dies

Zealot dies

[random shuttle]

Guys guys

[fluid yarrow]

Everyone never gets the concept of structure

[random shuttle]

you are all wrong

[outer cobalt]

Space Marine can just shoot him or smash him
Psyker can pop his head

[random shuttle]

Whoever wins

[silver mural]

Well this could totally occur, and marines even kill psyker marines who are almost always stronger then human psykers, Its also true that marines in novels legit are threatened by human psykers and have to fight carefully around them or snipe them

[junior field]

Ogryn maybe, psyker prob

[random shuttle]

depends on the writer

[spice cloud]

Psyker can just stop the bullets

[junior field]

Kerfus didn’t you wear a playboy bunny outfit your opinion doesn’t count

[outer cobalt]

This is the true answer

[spice cloud]

Semd him flying at will

[warped grove]

That is absolutely not how that works 😭

[outer cobalt]

Just run into the fucker

[rigid dock]

literally everything in 40k is this

[junior field]

I recognize that photo

[spice cloud]

How dense are you

[fluid yarrow]

All of fiction is this

[hot moth]

You get novels where a single space marine carves his way through the equivalent of a PDF

[spice cloud]

Fckn soace marine fans smh

[silver mural]

Also psychic powers in lore can be resisted bt just being really stubborn

[outer cobalt]

I dunno gimme a moment to calculate it

[hot moth]

THen you get novels where a chaos space marine legion jobs to fucking orks

[halcyon apex]

Why does it say it copies the contents when it doesn't and instead consumes the contents?

[spice cloud]

Hurr durr spees mareen runns super fast now u al deeeed

[astral canyon]

Honestly i could see a boss one-shot thammer build styling on a marine

[random shuttle]

Book 1: "Custodes is worried about fighting 2 ogryns"
Book 2: "Custodes kills 4 ogryns bare fisted and with a pebble"

[outer cobalt]

FR

honestly real question

how did the pebble not fucking vaporize at that speed

[main minnow]

Because it was written before they changed it

[astral canyon]

Fake question

[main minnow]

and Fatshark and accurate localization are anathema

[warped grove]

40K powerscaling changes on a whim

[astral canyon]

Also touhou pfp pog

[hot moth]

Let me be clear

[main minnow]

he had a rock in the second fight. That changes everything.

[hot moth]

it's not "oh a few chaos marines are overwhelmed by a massive waaagh"

[outer cobalt]

The powerscaling changes based on who is the main character

[hot moth]

it's

[random shuttle]

One thing that stays relatively consistent that books generally agree that Ogryns /are/ physically stronger than Marines

[hot moth]

"a chaos marine gets bonked by a fucking boy, because it's funny"

[silver mural]

Id say generally speaking a skilled marine would be able to take on any of our operatives.

We also must consider that the karnak twins are lore wise a hard fight for us. And they are certianly weaker in stats then a marine

[random shuttle]

the outcome of combat is more relegated to skill and speed and intelligence

[astral canyon]

40k as a whole works solely on the basis of "hell yeah"

[random shuttle]

In short: If an Ogryn somehow jumps a Marine, marine is fucked

[fluid yarrow]

I like how we’re talking about the other examples as if this game isn’t about fuckshit rejects purging a entire pdf and guard reg lol

[compact oyster]

I utterly fucking despise this dogshit gsme

[silver mural]

Oh i see

[warped grove]

I mean its corrupted (and usually doped up) cultists

[compact oyster]

REMOVE TRAPPERS FROM THIS FUCKING GAME

[near vapor]

the hive hasnt fell because the gangers

are just built different

[compact oyster]

I WAS STANDING BEHIND A FUCKING LADDER

[fluid yarrow]

Yep

[compact oyster]

AND I STILL GET NETTED?

[outer cobalt]

true
4 random fuckers killing like a thousand Nurgle guys, including like 15 Ogryns and multiple Greater daemons and a Chaos Spawn

[compact oyster]

GO FUCK YOURSELF FATSHARK

[hot moth]

ladders are not solid

[fluid yarrow]

Technically we purged the hive already

[random shuttle]

Classic Trapper Moment

[warped grove]

Its not 4, its thousands on the mourningstar

[near vapor]

and now that Rannick, through Zola recruited the Gangers as allies in the war

[hot moth]

have you not seen the killcounts in a single mission

[fluid yarrow]

10 years of tide said we killed 91 billion

Canonically Tertiums population is 90 billion

[near vapor]

access to inquisition resources...

[fluid yarrow]

We purged the hive

And extra

[warped grove]

And keep in mind hive cities are made up of billions (iirc)

[outer cobalt]

I'm talking about the 4 that play through Campaign
cause I assume lorewise it's one team doing all the campaign missions

just the campaign is like a thousand units killed

[warped grove]

Im not sure

[fluid yarrow]

Yep

[warped grove]

I mean

Gameplay vs lore

If DT worked like that it would end after one year

[silver mural]

Its true a majority of rejects prolly lore wise die level 1

[fluid yarrow]

Canonically lore wise it’s just the cover art rejects going crazy

[warped grove]

Most scums in my game do

[fluid yarrow]

It’s like destiny

There’s only one “Gaurdian”

[silver mural]

Floor inspector is an important job

[fluid yarrow]

But we are all the guardian

[warped grove]

Sucking dirt

[outer cobalt]

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer-gif-26209389

[astral canyon]

Embed fail

[outer cobalt]

oh yeah

how annoying

[warped grove]

Can we kill all people who want a sister of battle

[astral canyon]

You have to yap more before you can embed success

[random shuttle]

The most important thing to remember

[sinful gust]

Pretty sure I did

[random shuttle]

is I am the Main Character and everyone else on the team is just NPC I can sacrifice to a poxburster

[outer cobalt]

Just play Zealot
Flamer, Chainsword, Bolter, it's legit a Sister Of Battle

but no armor

[warped grove]

I know, I wish the other half of the community knew

But they also probably want a 100% SoB

[hot moth]

people want to feel like they have big armor

but that's kind of antithetical to how -tide combat flows

[warped grove]

Sm2

[sinful gust]

A d the armour can be taken care of with cosmetics, there's some crazy sob cosplay in game

[vast yoke]

good news and bad news

good news, yes, stimm supply does actually affect these, i got pugilist about 4 minutes into the mission

bad news, i only made 222% toughness progress towards Enchanced. It is absolutely FUCKED and I think it doesn't even work properly (I only got % progress when people replenished toughness thru their own means, not the +25 toughness nodes, which made 0 progress)

[outer cobalt]

Just play SM2

[warped grove]

Thats what I said

[outer cobalt]

yeah exactly

[mystic bolt]

Is dependency not working with stimm crate a bug?

Or?

[random shuttle]

you know what

[random shuttle]

its super sad and comedic

that SM2 has worse bolters

than Darktide

[rustic zinc]

It does seem like it SHOULD work. (Dependency + StimmCrate....including ally StimmCrates)

(And to be clear: when thing seems like they should logically work and don't work, yes: that's a bug.)

[outer cobalt]

Astartes Overhaul for the win!

[fluid yarrow]

Puny PRIMARIS bolt rifle versus the god emperors bolter

[random shuttle]

SM2 bolter is piddly, weak, low aura

[tardy prism]

Hive scummy

[warped grove]

Different factions and stuff, another example of powerscaling

But yeah they feel weird to use

And dont sound as good

[random shuttle]

Darktide Bolter is a Microwave Sized BIG BOOM RUMPUMPUM krakalaka big dick exploder

[dim moth]

these grenades man

[kind zodiac]

ok so i dont get something the stimm supply is supposed to copy the contents not consume the blasted stimm

[cyan talon]

For real

[silver mural]

Bolter in warhammer 40k: weak.

Bolter in necromunda: one of the most dangerous weapons

[shrewd spoke]

I do not understand dependency builds they feel so weak

[outer cobalt]

FR
In the Sister of Battle VR game, I can one-hand a full bolter and have like double the accuracy than in SM2 with 2 hands

[fluid yarrow]

I got a haircut and now I look like a lesbian librarian

Anyway gtg

[silver mural]

Its a rule that in any marine game bolter is bad because its their autogun equivalent but in any human based game the bolter will fuck

[warped grove]

Bolters are not weak in 40k lol

[random shuttle]

When I sport a Boltgun in Darktide I feel like I am totting a world-ending gun

[rustic zinc]

I mean I'm in it for 40% cooldown reduct for Rampage and +20% crit for my dual shivs' already-crazy finesse stat.

[random shuttle]

The sounds, the impact, the BOOM

[silver mural]

Yeah i love spamming strength 4 shooting it kills so much

[astral canyon]

Boltgun has a really good bolter

[silver mural]

Oh boy im 1 more strengtb then a lasgun

[outer cobalt]

Yes

[signal nebula]

take stimm with 45-60s cooldown. 45 is the sweet spot
run chem dependency all nodes
take stimm 4 times.
Congrats you have 40% ability cool down, 20% crit and 20% TDR and can toughness regen on stimm.

Best paired with Bone saw, or high crit weapon with poison on crit node

[silver mural]

Thats nice actually, i havent played it yet

[astral canyon]

Its a really fun game

[signal nebula]

nice thing is one you're at 4 stacks you have 120s between stimms rather than 60

[kind zodiac]

i dont get this does anyone else?

[hot moth]

I'm going rampage, CDR stim, and chem dependency

[hot moth]

you actually feel like you have tankiness, you have a ton of crit, and rampage comes up again REALLY FAST

[warped grove]

Me after replacing the scums toxin with helium

[shrewd spoke]

I see so the one keystone modifier I wasn’t using was what I was missing to make the build good

[hot moth]

rampage->eat your stim->second rampage->eat your stim again

[signal nebula]

don't need CDR stimm with dependency, it has 40% ability cooldown baked in. your ability is always up

[rustic zinc]

Yeah my Ramp+Dependency build is currently running Wildfire IV (+16% str, +10% finesse, so not even the final finesse node), 34s

And I run Maxed Out Chems (60 sec dep stacks but max stascks 4)

[hot moth]

but you can eat your stim whenever rampage is down and it comes up again EVEN FASTER

[tender forge]

fun I spent a whole mission at max dependency stacks, and I'm apparently at "90 seconds spent at max stacks of dependency"

[warped grove]

You can have other better things tho

[signal nebula]

redundancy. yourr stimm could do something stronger

[silver mural]

Frickin hyperbole

[signal nebula]

not even slightly i was doing this all last night

[junior kindle]

Does anyone feel like hive scum class is a little underpowered?

[warped grove]

Lol no

[hot moth]

it doesn't come together until you have all 30 levels

[warped grove]

Hes weak when hes low level but yeah what balista said

[hot moth]

there's tons of GREAT "luxury nodes" you can't take until you have all 30 levels

[rustic zinc]

"It gives +5% damage, so all enemies in the entire 40k universe are already dead."

[junior kindle]

Oh, okay

[near vapor]

you need to let your 3rd stack of chem dependency lose a stack before reapplying stimm for the penance to progress. its bugged rn

[signal nebula]

if you take the wrong nodes it does feel that way. but if you take the good nodes then not at all

[halcyon apex]

You don't get the ability or you don't get my comment?

[shrewd spoke]

A little at times but mainly because I pushed too far forward in my crusade for blood and ate it because a crusher spawned

[tender forge]

cool lol

[dim moth]

https://fximgur.com/a/ISj1pFc my poor widdle weak class :(

[hot moth]

yeah there's a lot of do-nothing nodes, same as all the other classes pre-multiple-reworks

[tender forge]

welp guess I'll be spending a bit longer in uprising than expected

[rustic zinc]

I would have a better sense of Scum if I could run freaking SCOREBOARD MOD without it crashing due to some ammo capacity nil error

[hot moth]

also needle pistol + pickpocket is dumb, because needle pistol is dumb

[near vapor]

update your mods

[hot moth]

like needle pistol is REALLY DUMB

"what the fuck is this" dumb

[kind zodiac]

dont get the ability it says it meant to copy the contents of the stimm not consume it

[near vapor]

chem toxin DOT my beloved

[dim moth]

have you tried using the better scoreboard

[astral canyon]

It copies and consumes

[shrewd spoke]

Meh I prefer the crowbar or guns

[junior kindle]

I like the chem tree, is that correct nodes?

[silver mural]

It is technically hyperbole, as you dont literally mean always up, but just its up whenever its needed.

Its like if i tell someone bolter does all the damage, its technically untrue but bolters obviously hit very hard especially on classes who can build them up a ton

[limber cradle]

I'm almost worried FS is gonna listen to the people who say it's weak

[warped grove]

I have enough drugs in me to kill an Elephant, Fahkeet blasting in my ears, close enough, welcome back Hotline Miami 2

[dim moth]

I genuinely feel like an action movie protagonist doing this class's shit

[halcyon apex]

Yeah, so it's either not working as intended or the description is poorly written. Knowing Tubby Tuna it could be either.

[astral canyon]

Latter most likely

[signal nebula]

essential nodes, imo, are the all in the middle tree. Both toughness restores, and the stamina damage res nodes, make life a lot easier. You also get damage vs elites/monsters and hyper violence there which are also S tier nodes

after that go wild

tree layout needs work

[quaint rivet]

does anyone have a stimm lab guide? need to do the enhanced penance

[shrewd spoke]

There a satisfying feeling I get when I go full ape on an entire group of enemies with a crowbar rampage and adrenaline frenzy

[hot moth]

yeah if you skip the cluster of nodes leading up to the middle keystone I think you're throwing

you really, really need them

[junior kindle]

Thank you for the help

[hot moth]

if you skip pickpocket you're probably also throwing

Pickpocket is dumb

fullstop

[signal nebula]

truth. i have tried without its so punishing

[kind zodiac]

my money on it not working as intended

[rotund agate]

can't afford it...

[hot moth]

change your build around

[shrewd spoke]

Btw the anarchist voice likes are just chefs kiss

[hot moth]

you don't need some of the cool flavorful/synergistic nodes when you ahve infinite rnaged ammo

especially if that ranged ammo

is going into the needle pistol

[dim moth]

I don't use pickpocket with my needle pistol because I don't run out of ammo on my needle pistol x

[rapid mango]

[hot moth]

but even just the combat shotgun or revolver are FINE

[dim moth]

I just melee shit and abuse the comical hypermobility to charge gun lines

[signal nebula]

no worries dude

[hot moth]

the vets and arbites can be running out of ammo and you're just dandy

which is HILARIOUS

[signal nebula]

i don't feel like i need pickpocket in every build but it is an S tier talent

and mandatory in gun builds

[dim moth]

everyone able to generate bullets with their mind except for psyker

smh

[livid raven]

I'm always on red ammo and teammates always ping ammo

The fools

[halcyon apex]

F for Ogryn.

[hot moth]

Ogyrn can regenerate rocks, at least

[shrewd spoke]

Psyker deserves infinite use of smite instead

[cinder ivy]

🤣

[rustic zinc]

"Rock not ammo? U dum?" -my ogryn (probably)

[dim moth]

burst limiter override

[stray horizon]

Dual Stub vs Dual Auto for desperado?

[hot moth]

wait, is Burst limiter override reload from reserves or generate a clip?

[dim moth]

makes the shot not consume ammo

[halcyon apex]

Doesn't summon bullets out of thin air when dry though, which if gunlugging is what you desperately want.

[livid raven]

I've done 2-3 times as much damage the second best teammates in the last 5 games with dual smg pickpocket desperado

[rapid mango]

lucky bullet exists, and can be used when youre out of ammo

[dim moth]

ON THE CONTRARY

[livid raven]

It's just kind of insane

[cinder ivy]

Stubs slap

[dim moth]

if you have ZERO ammo on ogryn with BLO

[tender forge]

also I'm fairly certain the blackout nade recovery is glitched (in psykanium melee kills count for recovery butr in ghames they do not)

[livid raven]

Dual auto

[dim moth]

you can spam click and you'll still fire free bullets

lmao

[silver mural]

Id love this for shooty ogryn. Lucky shot isnt enough

[rapid mango]

how so

[halcyon apex]

Glugger wishes it had the ammo regen of scum

[rotund agate]

but then I can't afford sample collector

[shrewd spoke]

Auto for satisfaction and crowd clearing stub for good damage

[rustic zinc]

Burst crits give free bullets (with a subnode I think?). Otherwise you might be thinking of Dual Stubber's blessing that pulls ammo from the reserve (on crit or something I forget, I don't run that often)

[ashen cape]

I've seen it replenish so I know it works but it does feel like it aint replenishing as often as it should

[rapid mango]

stub also good for satisfaction. trickshot the snipers

[silver mural]

Really? Mine do... but certian perks and dots will steal kills and not count toward replenish

[shrewd spoke]

True

[latent lark]

finally reached mastery 20 for the starting loadout and can move on to the cooler weapons

[warped quiver]

ok so blinders also don't count dot kills for the "regen 1 every 20 kills"
for a class with dots as such a big part of its identity, fatshark sure is intent on making dots not fucking work with anything

[latent lark]

dual shivs were cool

[tender forge]

try it in the psykanium, it refills far faster

I've had games with 0 recovered bangers

[rapid mango]

not worth anything? 600+ dmg per tick passively is not worth anything? oof

[shrewd spoke]

Probably expecting most people to be using chem nades for dot builds

[livid raven]

Work with anything

[dim moth]

work with, not worth

[warped quiver]

literacy issue

[livid raven]

Not worth anything

[rapid mango]

morning brain