hivescum-class

[tribal bane]

only the damn bovigores or whatever the fuck they're called are as large as an ogryn

[small grail]

Rocket laumcher

[hallow osprey]

Only issues I'm having are skill issues and teammates

[dull root]

anyone know the best blessins for shivs?

[high gull]

It would still trivialize games brother, all people would do is run one anti corruption box and one med box. With how strong that'd be, it'd be the most common setup you'd see in higher difficulties.

[zenith fern]

true

[glacial gyro]

reeling, like they're staggering backwards or to the side

[vivid crystal]

uncanny flesh tearer

[spice cloud]

Does it say fully?

[flint granite]

I like tox grenades

[small grail]

I think uncanny strike, executer, and maybe riposte if you like crits

[echo python]

yeah

[grand jewel]

Uncanny riposte

[short dew]

Im having tag issues memory leaks and enemies shooting behind fences i cant shoot through

[high gull]

Like it doesn't matter how you try to spin it, on demand healing with no strings outside a point investment is op as shit.

[tribal bane]

like 90% of the time they are the same fucking height as normal humans

[glacial gyro]

Good news, with the rending in the stimm, and the rending from desperado, if you use both at the same time, the dual autos can kill crushers fairly easily

[high gull]

Especially when you include things like sample collector

[vivid crystal]

THIS

they melt crushers

[dim moth]

does this increase toxin damage

its damage

at close range

[vivid crystal]

who needs the needler lol

[short dew]

Also havoc being havoc

[high gull]

https://tenor.com/view/lookaway-looking-omg-dontlook-ohdamn-gif-5530702

[short dew]

Self explanatory

[warped grove]

class meant to avoid damage
look inside
”can we get an infinite health stim”

[hallow osprey]

I suck ass at the game (at least as Scum)
I need a pick-me-up :|
Also, the anti-corruption box can't return wounds. That's why I specified that. You can't bum your way into extra revive states.

[young herald]

note the highlighted thing

[short dew]

Got twins and 3 bosses 2 secs in the map none of us even moved

[dim moth]

why would I read that

[tight hinge]

thanks ive been putting it off before investing in it for my dual smg build

[short dew]

Havoc working as intended with no bugs

[grand jewel]

You had me at why would I read

[flint granite]

Oh totally it's just that it's a skill issue on my part and I as a player like having a reliable "oh shit" sidearm for dealing with the one real weak spot my build has

Which is crushers

[grand jewel]

Carapace is a pretty big weakspot

[hot moth]

blessings for needle pistol? What does Crit do for it

[glacial gyro]

This is, and I mean this in the best way possible, a skill issue. Hive Scum needs really good footwork and awareness by design. I'm not trying to be a fart sniffing snob or anything, but the fragility is part of the tradeoff for its frankly insane damage output

[flint granite]

I meant carapace ye

[young herald]

cuz it answers your question

[high gull]

Trust when I say there's nodes you can pick up to help with survivability.

Also

[tribal bane]

hell, even if the more beastial looking ones are too much, there are more human looking varients

[high gull]

Don't expect to be amazing off the box dude

Class ust came out

We're all in our learning phases

Take it slow

[warped grove]

Hive Scum doesn’t work unless you have atleast 100 hours in the game and understand dodging and movement

[fast gust]

Class bad I demand a BUFF to toughness regen or I'm gonna drop the reviews with my goons

[grand jewel]

Give him a charge ability that stomps like bestigors in vermintide and does their roar

[spice cloud]

Please for the love of god dont add beastmen to darktide

[grand jewel]

Do it

[spice cloud]

I hated that ahit in vermintide 2 so much

[fast gust]

Add beastmen to dt.

[flint granite]

They're cool tho

[glacial gyro]

You can sub in equal time in Slayer experience at a 1:2 ratio

[flint granite]

Goat man

[tight hinge]

goat man, satan

[dull root]

thank you

[hot moth]

their bows and arrows will be fair, finally, when we can shoot them back with AUTOMATIC GUNS

[grand jewel]

Goat

Wait, why don't we have a class in DT with a bow

[warped grove]

Yeah my friend compared Scum to Slayer Bardin as well

[grand jewel]

Missed opportunity

[tribal bane]

look, all i'm saying is that the beastman wiki page is stupidly fucking short

[high gull]

What would a beastman do ability wise that a ogryn doesn't already do tho?

[cedar cairn]

"Fatshark should add (thing they saw on YouTube shorts) to Darktide!"

[grand jewel]

Banner

[glacial gyro]

Slayer Bardin is my main and I stepped into Hive Scum and felt right at home

[warped grove]

One of my friends kept getting downed as Arbitrator, I can’t wait for him to play Scum and say I’m the reason for his deaths

[high gull]

Huh?

[short dew]

Make me unistall the game

[grand jewel]

Banner

Shrimple

[spice cloud]

Frfr

[dim moth]

gote

[flint granite]

Doesn't one of the vet personalities talk about serving with a beastman regiment or did I hallucinate that

[spice cloud]

You did

[warped grove]

Must be the stims

[spice cloud]

Go back to sleep amd forget about beasen

[glacial gyro]

Ramming headbutt that flings an enemy super far

[flint granite]

But they're cooooooool

[spice cloud]

Delete this heresy

[flint granite]

Idk if I want them in dt tho

[warped grove]

Do you just have that on demand

[echo python]

yeah

[grand jewel]

Lmao

[flint granite]

I think we'd need admech first to balance out how vocally people would hate them

[spice cloud]

Fucking hell

[ornate slate]

As a furry? Beastmen are my favorite.

[high gull]

The singer?

[cedar cairn]

The Loose Cannon is racist confirmed

[echo python]

That's Loose Cannon

[spice cloud]

Thats the only good thin about em is that i can brutally slaughter them

[grand jewel]

We did get Saltzpyre to voice an ogryn too so now ogryn is the competitive racist

[dire badge]

But they aren't like cute. They're literal abominations

[glacial gyro]

He talks about how they only 'creeped him out', by Imperium standards he's downright progressive

[drifting heron]

Every personality is racist they live in the imperium

[hallow osprey]

I just wish I could enjoy Hivescum more. I live my life game update to game update at this point, especially during the winter where being outside will just kill you

[tribal bane]

I feel you're too focused on minotaurs and the big buff guys. so far there's three classes built for melee, two built for distance fighting, and one hyper agressive junkie, all i'm saying is there are multiple types of beastmen, not all of them are fucking giant ass brutes constantly foaming at the mouth like a fucking khornate berzerker

[ornate slate]

Hot....

[fast gust]

Idk boss I wanna pat em

[flint granite]

In fantasy yeah but their lore is different in 40k

[grand jewel]

Who are distance fighters?

Maybe psyker but who is the second lol

[zenith fern]

vet

[dire badge]

I've actually never heard of them in 40k now that I think about it

[flint granite]

Just like how ogryns aren't just their fantasy counterparts

[cedar cairn]

Now for my go-to clip

[tribal bane]

vet and psyker

[grand jewel]

That's just wrong

[dire badge]

By the emperor

[high gull]

I'm not familiar with the furry landscape of 40k so I might be a lil bit ignorant to it all.

[glacial gyro]

No, they are pretty gross in 40k too

[flint granite]

They're imperial aligned abhumans in 40k

[cedar cairn]

I should probably crop that shorter actually

[ornate slate]

Ayo anyone wanna hear my AI slop music that's 40K themed? I wrote the lyrics myself!

[flint granite]

I meant the whole ontologically evil thing

[dire badge]

Ohhh yeah I've heard. Of them. Cat girls.

[grand jewel]

No

[high gull]

They look like they smell like swamp ass I'm ngl.

[flint granite]

Nah felinids are some other shit

[tribal bane]

SEE BEASTMEN ARE BEING PUSHED DOWN SO FUCKING FAR THEY'RE SEEN AS A FANTASY ONLY THING

[dire badge]

Space skaven when

[flint granite]

Never.

Sadly.

[dire badge]

Oh wait sorry we have the imperium already

[ornate slate]

Please, yes.

[grand jewel]

Rat rat yes yes

What the fuck fuck!??

[glacial gyro]

that's just the imperial guard

[cedar cairn]

Felinids don't exist it's just Wolverine

[terse knoll]

What's the difference between the Branx VI and II Needle Pistol?

[spice cloud]

GOOD

[azure mist]

They’re cool but I don’t see them being implemented into Darktide

Besides the real question is where is the Dreg Mauler

[tight hinge]

beastmen so cute

[grand jewel]

Special attacks either do an explosion or a AoE spread

[glacial gyro]

CAIUS COSADES PFP? Could this man be based???

[tribal bane]

honestly, I don't feel they'd fit well, all the things that make them fun asthetic wise would just get in the way in 40k. the only thing that would be able to be carried over with little to no change would be their absolute batshit maniacle evilness

[dire badge]

I'd accidentally shoot one for being an abomination

[high gull]

Ngl I hope we do get felinids, but it's just some fat balding cat man.

[flint granite]

Those are some high quality ogryns

[ornate slate]

"Ngahaha! We must murder-kill man things! Furless and smelly-stinky! Mmmhm ehehme! Use stupid-dumb light guns. Not like perfect-flawless Skaven warp ships! Yuuuuus!"

[cedar cairn]

Like I said

[short dew]

No more cows gods no

[dire badge]

Agreed just a shame.

[flint granite]

And like they're kinda cute in a fucked up ugly way

[echo python]

Well kinda. Their primary representation in terms of models is as chaos beastmen (tzaangors, pestigors, slaangors, the fellgor ravagers and as imperial deserters in uuuh blackstone quest or whatever), but there is also a bounty hunter beastman in Necromunda known as Gor Half-Horn

[high gull]

These look like acid induced sleep paralysis demons.

[tribal bane]

indeed

[azure mist]

KILL ALL FURRIES

[ornate slate]

Hot too if you look at some of the R34 of them. Warpstone dildos? Based man

[echo python]

https://www.warhammer.com/en-GB/shop/Gor-Half-horn-Beastman-Bounty-Hunter-2017

[tribal bane]

THAT MOTHERFUCKER HAS A PLASMA PISTOL

[dire badge]

Cows don't have any fur

[high gull]

https://tenor.com/view/hey-there-joe-dirt-david-spade-flirty-hey-girl-gif-11776859543658616878

[azure mist]

But seriously I don’t really see how it could even be implemented

[tribal bane]

THIS

[frail berry]

40 of benadryl makes you see that without sleeping

[flint granite]

Ye, there's chaos beastmen it's just that there's completely loyal imperial beastmen

[tight hinge]

the beastmen looks like actual goats standing on 2 legs but with human arms

[terse knoll]

ok, ty

[tribal bane]

honeslty, another way to fit them in, lore wise at least, is to have them running as cartel muscle

[flint granite]

Yeah they're awesome

[fast gust]

We used to have imperial guard rules to have them called auxilia, but they were removed sadly

[short dew]

Theres literal kids in this server lmao

[high gull]

That hurts my sanity levels.

[ornate slate]

+Lets not forget Fabulous Bill, aka Favious Bile

He's probably gonna be another Chaos god too

[flint granite]

You gotta calm down lol

[echo python]

True! And I'd love a beastman class personally, but I think they're way too underrepresented right now to be a plausible addition to the game

[frail berry]

Tbh I think it would fuck with everyone's sanity levels

[glacial gyro]

If you OD on horse tranquilizers this is the last thing you see before you die

[frail berry]

Documented btw

[ornate slate]

https://tenor.com/view/jimcarrey-suspense-no-nope-gif-4481176

Let me think about it....

[flint granite]

https://tenor.com/view/kitasan-black-satono-diamond-umamusume-satono-diamond-tongue-kitasan-black-knockback-gif-1546071629347855274

[small grail]

Anyone else getting a bug where you can't send messages in chat? Like in game chat

[tight hinge]

maybe guardsmen find them more tastier than rations

[ornate slate]

Foot Raw Dog!!!!

[high gull]

Chat ban

What did you saaaay

Hmmm

[spice cloud]

Oh no its turning into zealot chat

[fast gust]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1351784855545057281/1440269658895945770/togif.gif

[flint granite]

You can take me out of the zealot chat but you can't take the zealot chat out of me

[ornate slate]

https://tenor.com/view/decaying-winter-decaying-winter-zealot-perk-gif-26388850

[ornate slate]

I'm - this fucking close to posting something to prove my point man.

Don't test me.

[spice cloud]

My exact reaction to this degeneracy

[ornate slate]

I'm a Slannesh cultist bitch

Don't try me

[short dew]

This belongs in vet gen

[drifting heron]

Slaanesh is more than horny

[spice cloud]

Dont worry we believe you

[azure mist]

Youll promptly get muted probably if it’s anything 18+ or even banned

[flint granite]

How's it feel knowing you can finally properly roleplay caius in game

[azure mist]

Just warning right now

[ornate slate]

Well yeah. That's why they're the best one. Others are JUST angry, JUST stinky, or JUST arrogant.

[frail berry]

My unrestricted internet access from a young age probably prepared me for worse

[ornate slate]

At least Slannesh has some nuance you know?

[drifting heron]

Slaanesh encompasses all aspects of excess and horny is pretty low down on that list

[short dew]

I already tried

[spice cloud]

I allready named my vet that way

[frail berry]

Like what? Being a personified std machine?

[ornate slate]

Depends on who you ask.
Lets not forget HOW it was created.

[high gull]

Oh btw I wanted to ask, who the fuck is the ganger named Rodin

[azure mist]

I don’t know

[high gull]

Word.

[fast gust]

https://tenor.com/view/house-md-house-dr-house-hugh-laurie-foreman-gif-10655037594432727957

[azure mist]

I’m named “Blicky-Oblong”

[ornate slate]

Yes daddy split my ass apart mmm

[drifting heron]

What even is house

[ornate slate]

You can't hurt me >:3

[high gull]

I joined a game and hit with "Holy shit it's Args" and I 'm like

Who is this exactly?

[drifting heron]

I'm Estrofiend

[frail berry]

https://tenor.com/view/hwut-what-whut-gif-24986823

[high gull]

And never got a answer

[dire badge]

If you want a REAL chaos god for chads. Pick nurgle
He loves you and wants to give you his gifts and even heretics

[ornate slate]

https://tenor.com/view/heresy-detected-gif-25567321

[fast gust]

Hive scum becomes a doctor

[azure mist]

It’s not lupus

[ornate slate]

House Scum

[short dew]

God left the chat

[spice cloud]

Until u gain awareness for 1 minute and see your horrible disfigured rotten body and completely loose your shit

[hallow osprey]

My Scum is named Ronson after a slang term for M4 Sherman American tanks (had a habit of bursting into flames)

[drifting heron]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/G7SEvvdW0AEBGZJ.gif

[rigid summit]

it's a brand name for lighters

[vast leaf]

this new level kinda sucks

[frail berry]

The coolest one is tzeentch anyway

[azure mist]

Goated gif

[hot moth]

What's the difference between the two marks of needle pistol?

[ornate slate]

Probably WAY more literal on that than you think

[dire badge]

Only unbelievers will see a gift and think tuat

[ornate slate]

'Loose your shit'

[dire badge]

Hell betray you for fun

[leaden lark]

The more I play hivescum, the worse the class gets. Like, 1/3 of your tree is completely nonfuncional if you're doing chem toxin

[spice cloud]

No thats exactly what happens

[hallow osprey]

Yup, Germans used the term
Thought it was cool because my guy is part of the Tread Lightlies

[frail berry]

That's the point

[spice cloud]

And then u go back into nurgles embrace

[leaden lark]

why make the class so antisynergistic with itself

[dire badge]

I knew there was kinky but never this level of kinky

[rigid summit]

it's not a term though it's straight up the name of a company

[frigid adder]

Can someone remind what i need to find on the +3 stamina for it to actually work?

[ornate slate]

Its a Hive Ganger man. Come on. They're literally antisynergistic with EVERYTHING including each other.

[high gull]

Let's ask the devs when they come in here.

[ornate slate]

House touched Warp stone too much.

[leaden lark]

That's also antisynergistic with MY MONEY THAT I PAID

[spice cloud]

I love all my muckers

[flint granite]

410+

[frigid adder]

thanks i knew there was something

[azure mist]

You’re going to get buffed by the stim crate and you’re gonna like it

[high gull]

My following the zealot around

You're gonna snort the fent whether you want to or not dammit

[frail berry]

Absolutely the fuck not, why we got a fent dispenser in the game now

[rigid summit]

zealot is just inferior hivescum

[azure mist]

Fent folds immediately

[leaden lark]

So far Hive scum is such a terrible class with about as many builds as old ogryn

[rigid summit]

they cannot match my freak

[spice cloud]

Drugs are expensive take em whenever u find em

[leaden lark]

At least they're not weak

[fast gust]

Daily reminder that the Spanish version of hive scum says comrade instead of mucker

[leaden lark]

But they already need a tree rework

[frail berry]

Not drip wise
Not dmg wise
Not style wise

[high gull]

Imagine you just fucking die if you get hit with too many stimms at once

[frail berry]

Realism

[bleak moon]

bro this character constantly drops inputs

[frail berry]

Or your character gets addicted and gotta stimp up once per mission

[high gull]

The zealot violently vibrating on the floor, foaming at the mouth

[azure mist]

Overdosing the psyker solely cause they’re playing psyker

[small grail]

I'm not banned, because some other times i can say things

[shy scroll]

so perk for needle pistol would it make the dots do more damage?

[leaden lark]

Like, chem dependency is a keystone that doesn't work WITH ANYTHING. And ESPECIALLY STIMM SUPPLY

It doesn't do ANYTHING

[high gull]

I was fucking with you, it's probably just the game being shit as always.

[leaden lark]

It's completely USELESS

[small grail]

Like i can type something but the input to send it doesn't register

[frail berry]

What the fuck is that idea

[azure mist]

Meant to be paired with Stim crate and ends up being anti synergy

Holy suffering

[ornate slate]

Lets be honest if we were gonna make this in any way logical from a lore standpoint? There'd ONLY be Hive Scum kill teams. They'd not join vets, def not zealots, PROBABLY Ogryns actually, they might vibe a bit with them, but they'd absolutely murderfy the Psyker if they went anywhere near them, given the fearful reputation the Imperium has given Psykers to keep them under heel more easily by spreading unreasonably intense fear about them in every aspect..And Arbiter would not be a great idea either. Go ahead, ask Robocop to work alongside criminals. Probably not gonna go well.
And even if you have a whole Ganger group(+1 Ogryn maybe, just for the fun vibes), you'd need to make sure each ganger is from a different syndicate. Pretty sure they'd sooner kill one another than the Cultists with 1 simple gang-related argument.

[leaden lark]

No it's not meant

[frail berry]

You got run n gun, immovable object and the last ability is just a college party in the 90

[high gull]

Can I get a cliff notes version of this

[frail berry]

[azure mist]

Just gonna ignore Loose Cannon Veteran

[leaden lark]

Even if stimm supply gave you stacks ITS STILL USELESS. Why do you need ability cooldown when the only cooldown you care is your stimm? Even if your ability is off cooldown, you wait for your stim. So it still does absolutely NOTHING

[azure mist]

The supposed Ex-Ganger

[ornate slate]

Oh yeah my bad.
Hive Ganger makes no sense lore wise, they'd kill everything except MAYBE Ogryns and other Hive Gangers from the same Syndicate as them

I gotchu bro 👍

[frail berry]

I'm pretty sure I'd do drugs if I were a psyker

[high gull]

LC casually wanting to go bar hopping with bounty hunter

[toxic dagger]

they're defending their hometurf from a chaos cult and the traitor guard, why wouldnt they work with the inquisition?

[spice cloud]

Nobody would be able to even touch a psyker lol

[toxic dagger]

or the arbitrators for that matter.

[frail berry]

Imagine managing unimaginable horrors as your works

[spice cloud]

He would just blow their heads ip

[frail berry]

I'd do drugs in that situation

[grand jewel]

Probably getting paid by inquisition too

[random shuttle]

That doesn't sound true at all

[high gull]

I didn't think about this tbh...

[toxic dagger]

every loyalist becomes friends when chaos shows up.

[glacial gyro]

I'm sorry, I love the hive scum, but you just can't get drip like this down in the sewer

[drifting heron]

I am going to kill you
Gang fixers get employed by the inquisition all the time

[frail berry]

Hate that cap

[leaden lark]

@toxic dagger When hive ganger rework, the tree fucking sucks

[high gull]

The arbitrators purposely staying off just mudering the cartels because they're helping the inquisition

[toxic dagger]

and hive scum are not traitors. they're criminals, but they're loyal to the emperor.

[leaden lark]

😭

[drifting heron]

They're a wonderful resource to tap for the inquisiton

[rigid summit]

there's only one store rotation for scum just wait for the munda gang outfits to come for you to completely change your mind

[ornate slate]

Lets see...
Would you trust an all-powerful, super secretive, and altogether no-fucks-given-about-you-or-anything-you-care-about, organization that essentially just tells you it's either their way or death.

[grand jewel]

Yeah you hear them praising saint Messalina alot in their dialogue

Atleast my guy does

[fast gust]

FOR FREEDOM

[high gull]

I'm surprised Hadron hasn't shit a brick at their guns.

[drifting heron]

I mean
The alternative is desth

[glacial gyro]

Oh if we get some Goliath or Escher outfits I'm all in

[shy scroll]

what mark should i go then if im going stim/toxic build?

[toxic dagger]

if you're up against literally NURGLE? hell yeah dude.

every single time

[frail berry]

Trust not, listen to? Probably

[spice cloud]

Truste me man if the inquisition arrives in 40k people better fuckin listen

[drifting heron]

Their guns are more or less standard

[ornate slate]

The alternative is fucking right off.

[rigid summit]

im waiting for van saar myself

[random shuttle]

Arbites don't give a FLYING FUCK about cartels and gangers. In fact Arbites often work with them. Arbites aren't cops. They are IRS Strike Force. They care about BIG crimes against imperium, not some petty gangs and their burlgaries and murders. That's first.

[outer cobalt]

Hive Scum literally gets ONE SINGLE (Non-Commodore) item that gives them A NORMAL FUCKING SHIRT

[frail berry]

Why's nurgle the main antagonist in this game btw
Vermintide had more variety

[toxic dagger]

because zombies

[drifting heron]

Otherwise known as death, their home is currently a losing warzone

[grand jewel]

They've been there the entire time while we've been fighting this nonsense, we sought them out and wanted to work together, they otherwise avoided us

[high gull]

I mean maul of all the arbities specifically wants to arrest them all.

[fast gust]

https://tenor.com/view/skaven-cheiften-skaven-cheiften-guitar-rat-gif-24492026

[outer cobalt]

rats don't exist here

[azure mist]

I mean this is true with anyone who gains the interest of the Inquisition they’ll frame you to put you in a scenario of “Work for us or Die”

[frail berry]

Yeah that makes sense tbh

[random shuttle]

Yeah but Maul arrested his mom for overcooking corpse starch

[spice cloud]

Well if you refuse you are a heretic

[azure mist]

Heh… zombies.. like that one game mode from the very old call of dooties

[rancid bronze]

whats the best melee to run melee scum with

[ornate slate]

So you're telling me after all of this time doing just fine on their own, to the point they have had the energy to stay fit and battle ready for this long since Darktide's story began...And now, suddenly, for no real reason whatsoever, they just go "Kay we fwens nao"

[high gull]

Not enough synthetic tomato sauce.

[toxic dagger]

hive scum were fighting their own war against the cult, but if the inquisition shows up and offers an alliance, I would take that offer too. the inquisition works with criminal elements all the time.

[spice cloud]

And we all know what happens with heretics

[glacial gyro]

Why would you wear a shirt???

[ornate slate]

I will die on this hill. Lore wise Hive Gangers wouldn't trust them worth a damn

[drifting heron]

Yeah

[frail berry]

Build dependent i bet

[drifting heron]

40k writing

[high gull]

If the dialogue is anything to go by

[drifting heron]

Its comic book rules

[random shuttle]

Heavy Ogg got it right

[high gull]

Amnesty for crimes and getting paid while helping them aswell.

[grand jewel]

As proven by the rejects lol

[random shuttle]

Inquisition is just biggest strongest gang 😄

[high gull]

So it's a win win for the gangers

[grand jewel]

Even if wrongly imprisoned allegedly

[tight hinge]

shirts are for civilized losers

[drifting heron]

Being a friend of the inquisition is always nice

[rigid summit]

they were waiting for fatshark to come back from their fourth yearly month long vacation

[tribal bane]

because rats existed in that, and technically you weren't fighting nurgle's forces in Vermintide like Daemons as in darktide, you fought a Norscan tribe that worshiped Nurgle

[spice cloud]

And healthy

[glacial gyro]

so says Krunch

[high gull]

Brother man looks like he eats glass cups for fun

[ornate slate]

I swear they went to Vietnam, met some ladyboys and they were like "So anyway, anyone wanna wipe off, go home and add criminals to the roster?"

[toxic dagger]

so I played with the crowbar a bit and ngl I miss the speediness of the shivs

[random shuttle]

And yeah all the smart Gang Leaders would SALIVATE at the idea of havin Inquisition owe them a favor

[toxic dagger]

crowbar does nice dmg but it doesnt cleave all that much and it's so slow by comparison lol

[ornate slate]

Then they hive fived, french kissed eachother and flew home on Business class

[toxic dagger]

i got stuck a few times

[rigid summit]

i would use the shivs if they werent so ugly

[random shuttle]

They have nice skins

[random shuttle]

the scissor one is great

[toxic dagger]

wtf?

[rigid summit]

where is that one

[azure mist]

The fuck did I read

[ornate slate]

Scary accurate isn't it? I know

[hallow osprey]

I just rigged 2 city blocks to be filled with chem toxin

[last roost]

best shiv blessings rn?

[rigid summit]

zealot chat is spilling in

[high gull]

Sometimes literacy really is a curse.

[toxic dagger]

I don't even understand the ways in which you are probably trying to be bigoted

[last roost]

also shiv perks?

[spice cloud]

Please take your meds now

[toxic dagger]

what do ladyboys have anything to do with this?

[ornate slate]

Mmmm, spilling~

[ornate slate]

My Stim is on cooldown brother.

[glacial gyro]

I feel like I'm reading someone's fanfiction that they are very carefully not including anything explicit in because they want to not get banned but you can tell they really, really want to

[ornate slate]

Rain check on that

[rigid summit]

thats a yikes even from me

[last roost]

oh god is zealot chat back to being freaky again

[ornate slate]

Wait you're talking about me?

[azure mist]

Not really it’s just shitposts

[toxic dagger]

ok if you don't have a reasonable explanation for that ur getting the boot. wth lol

[last roost]

no im just asking

[high gull]

We had someone in here like this a few years ago funny enough.

[ornate slate]

Oh ok

I was gonna say man you have Furry in your name

[spice cloud]

Oh god they are gonna mate

Close your eyes children

[glacial gyro]

would caius cosades be an arbites or a hive scum

[last roost]

how is being a furry alone "freaky"

[spice cloud]

Imperial guard

[drifting heron]

Zealot chat is never as freaky as general

[bleak moon]

gross a furry

[last roost]

actually dont answer that

[high gull]

Is that a tax collector or something?

[azure mist]

Ew furries

[last roost]

you dont know this community bro

[azure mist]

Yuck

[toxic dagger]

they can't answer that, they're banned. move on everyone

[last roost]

yeah anyway

whats the shivs main blessing and perks rn?

[bleak moon]

I do know that community when you guys tried to groom me 15 years ago

disgusting

[toxic dagger]

shivs is like knife

[azure mist]

Perry much just knives

Fancier knives

[last roost]

we got tanner shivs now

[toxic dagger]

uncanny/precog/lacerate/that sort of thing

wait no

not lacerate.

[drifting heron]

People try not to perceive a community as a monolith challenge (impossible)

[toxic dagger]

flesh tearer

[last roost]

alright, whats the perks though on knife? been ages

[rigid summit]

why does the basic shiv have to look so twisty

[azure mist]

He who shall not be named lmao

[rigid summit]

i dont like it

[last roost]

tanner knife

wrong reply fml

[stoic halo]

basically the same as knife, or go full crit if you're trying to do a stim refresh build with crit toxin procs

[high gull]

I love how whenever tanner is mentioned

Cole shows up

[last roost]

i know NOTHING of hivescum so idek how that build works, learning as i go

[rigid summit]

i want a shiv skin that's a pair of sharpened toothbrushes prison style

[spice cloud]

Theres one skin thats not twisty

[last roost]

so just precog uncanny then

[spice cloud]

U can put it on all marks

[toxic dagger]

2 skins actually

[stoic halo]

i've never seen tanner and cole in the same room

[toxic dagger]

deluxe skin is scissors and slopshop skin is like sharp tubes

[azure mist]

Pretty much cause you can run Chem Coated for DOT on the shivs

[high gull]

There's knives like this irl, and they create some pretty nasty ass wounds.

[rigid summit]

the sharp pipes? i dont really like them either but they do remind me of wolfenstein pipe knives

[spice cloud]

Is the deluxe out? I cluldnt buy it yesterday

[glacial gyro]

I wonder if taxe would be good on a crit focused build with how bonkers you can get your attack speed up to

[spice cloud]

Tha flat thingys

[last roost]

arent they banned by the geneva convention

[stoic halo]

honestly the pipe knives would basically be impossible to patch up

[spice cloud]

With the wrapped grip

[drifting heron]

Taxe is always good

[stoic halo]

just holepunchers

[last roost]

whats the shivs perks though?

[hallow osprey]

Chem coated only works on crits :(
I wanna poison people all the time :(

[azure mist]

Hello tri tip dagger that’s banned by the Geneva Convention

[high gull]

It'd be weird as hell to see as a doctor

[stoic halo]

yes. the tac axe has great synergy with loads of tallents in the tree. especially on crit or on toxic enemies

[young herald]

this is a knife for a man who wants to make sure that whatever he stabs never heals

fucking triangular bayonet tier bullshit

[kind zodiac]

imma be honest tempted to go with stim supply

[glacial gyro]

I wonder if... If chaxe would finally be good

[high gull]

Give it a spin

[fleet lantern]

Oh, we're going full mall ninja in here, huh?

[random shuttle]

is good fun

[azure mist]

Tbh it’s probably Flak Cara, Flakiac

[high gull]

German army knife apparently.

[azure mist]

Normal combos

[rigid summit]

i was already using tac axe because apparently i have to carry everybody at heresy and lower 😤

[small grail]

Alright i think there does need to be a more obvious que for when the stimm is up. I find it hard to look between combat and stimm all the time

[rigid summit]

how tf do people die in uprising matches

[glacial gyro]

Is it because chaxe is good, or becaue hive scum is good

[azure mist]

God I love Tac Axe..

[high gull]

Awareness of a blind and deaf armadillo

[drifting heron]

Level 1

[azure mist]

Sedition warriors

[tribal bane]

brother, you do not know a lick about stitching up wounds

[last roost]

i was thinking its cara maniac

[tribal bane]

that's some cheap ass mall ninja shit

[random shuttle]

yes

😏

[drifting heron]

Being level 1 sucks i ate shit to an uprising captain and like 15 moebian 21st walkers

[glacial gyro]

[high gull]

I know you have a axe in your room, I just can't prove it.

[rigid summit]

but i did it level 1 just fine

[high gull]

https://tenor.com/view/watching-you-observe-seeing-i-saw-you-gif-5740825

[rigid summit]

are you saying you have skill issue @drifting heron

[glacial gyro]

What mark of chaxe is the best

[azure mist]

Tbf it’s nerfed Uncanny but it still applies to all armor types outside of Infested and Unarmored

[young herald]

both; chaxe is goated and has been for ages. People sleep on it so hard

[tribal bane]

actually, i don't, might have a warhammer soon tho

[rigid summit]

that i am potentially better than you @drifting heron
@drifting heron

[spice cloud]

I fell of a ledge while leveling yesterday only one person came to me and sadly he went down too the other 2 just completely ignored him and let him die and me fall down

[last roost]

so just cara flak then?

[young herald]

they're both pretty good rn. IMO mk4 is better, but the mk12 is finally in the ballpark

[spice cloud]

And then they wiped

[rigid dock]

bonesaw looks for cleave right? if i were to take a non-cdr stim, would it be better to add strength or add attack speed?

[tribal bane]

THIS is Germany's standard issue knife for their military

[drifting heron]

You probably aren't but I can fully explain why I died

[high gull]

Friend of mine has a anvil in his garage and picked up blacksmithing

[glacial gyro]

I will take that under advisement

[rigid summit]

not according to my discord profile

[azure mist]

Probably for the best seeing it’ll drop Maulers and Crushers faster, you could consider Unyielding cause that’s Boss + Ogryns aside from crushers

[tight hinge]

need sporks as shivs skin

[tribal bane]

also, this is the type of warhammer I mean, not the fantasy ass mauls or polehammers people call warhammers

[hallow osprey]

Knifes in real life make me really anxious
No bad prior experience

[high gull]

@toxic dagger When is ganger getting a UK roadman cosmetic

[last roost]

So just flak cara then?

[toxic dagger]

I don't know what that is

[spice cloud]

A real man uses hist fists

[toxic dagger]

I don't speak Barry

[azure mist]

Safest bet

[high gull]

What?

[azure mist]

Barry 63

[high gull]

The hell is that?

[drifting heron]

I couldn't kill anything because of the captain walling off trash with the void shield and 21st being too chunky for rating zero shivs
And no kills means no toughness so I lose it in 2 hits and then die on the third
My team is also in a different dimension so thats cool

[toxic dagger]

It's the demonym for Britbongs.

[high gull]

Understandable.

[toxic dagger]

UK is Barry, Italy is Luigi, Germany is Hans, etc.

[zenith fern]

This is slick

[azure mist]

Barry, 63

[random shuttle]

"It's over, The Emperor! I have gathered all 40 000 Warhammers!"
"I should've never trust you, Horus Heresy... you always were the grimdark future."

[toxic dagger]

That's right.

[rigid summit]

so you're saying you tripped and fell and fucking died

[hallow osprey]

I meant for cooking
I am not punching waffles or something

[toxic dagger]

The ur-Briton.

[high gull]

https://tenor.com/view/packing-city-gif-25067440

[cinder zinc]

I got the Generous penance, but didn't get the cosmetic from it. Is this common? An unknown error aborted the match I got it in.

[spice cloud]

Lol

[azure mist]

Evil gunner

[drifting heron]

After like a minute of kiting yeah
I would have lived if I had 2 talent points

[vast yoke]

anyone tried agripinaa revolver on desperado yet

[spice cloud]

I use my fists for waffles too

[toxic dagger]

Do these guys really think they're cool? I always wonder

[rigid summit]

wait how were you facing 21st at level 1

[zenith fern]

scunner

[toxic dagger]

With their little shoulderbags and trashbag coats

[zenith fern]

[high gull]

I mean it's been a style for like 2 or so years now.

[drifting heron]

Campaign rolling steel

[high gull]

If not longer actually.

[drifting heron]

Needed a 10 minute mission

[young herald]

new campaign missions are all moebian 21st

[rigid summit]

god i hate levelling new classes

[young herald]

at all difficulties

[short vine]

Which perks should I be taking on the crowbar folks?

[rigid summit]

forcing me to breathe the same air as heresy players

[toxic dagger]

Well I think we can safely say that style isn't coming to Hive Scum

[azure mist]

This is why we use Twins Hardmode skip

[young herald]

carapace/unyielding IMO

[blissful notch]

karnak twins exist

[drifting heron]

But now I have 2 talent points so this won't happen again because I have non kill based toughness

[hallow osprey]

yep
I feel at powerful as a wet paper bag

[rigid summit]

no im fine with that

i just hate trash players

[azure mist]

Day-

3?

[drifting heron]

Trash players are highly entertaining when i have gear that works

[azure mist]

Yeah 3

Day 3, it will not change till about Week 1-2

[last roost]

naming my hive scum OblockResident

[hallow osprey]

I'm shit and paired with people who are more shit so my experience has been hell

[bleak moon]

this class feels exetremly bad with its squishyness

[spice cloud]

These mfs die 50 times and the moment u get trapped once they ignore your ass like its a sport

[small grail]

Man maintaining chem dependency is tough. I want my stim to have enough effects to where it isn't kinda pointless but low enough cd to where i can have the talent

[bleak moon]

im sure it gets better at level 30

[toxic dagger]

Lol there are so many people stuck in the lower diffs that it's difficult to actually fill an Auric lobby at EU midweek morning time

[high gull]

https://tenor.com/view/robert-redford-jeremiah-johnson-nodding-yes-nod-of-approval-gif-21066931

[stoic halo]

still haven't seen a single gorden freeman or halflife refrence

[rigid summit]

i havent even been using the hive scum weapons because i need to use tac axe and revolver just to get shit done

[toxic dagger]

Normally there are enough players

But they're all grinding

[high gull]

I got out of the heresy trenches

[covert lagoon]

yes my dude selling stimms in the back alley look

[high gull]

It was rough man

[calm aurora]

If use rampage + adrenaline and the cdr cartel stimm... When should I stimm ideally?

[drifting heron]

I also made a rating 500 tac axe as soon as i could and I will not drop it until level 30

[short vine]

just run the sample collector passive no?

[last roost]

was named PromethiumFeen before

[stoic halo]

after the rampage ends

[hallow osprey]

There was a guy I met that was Gorgeous Fentman (must have saw my dumbass joke) that was a Carnival cartel member

[rigid summit]

i spend like 600k on trying to find a 60% mobility tac axe and i still had to settle with 62%

[azure mist]

My long lost brother, OblockSwitchyion

[drifting heron]

Its extremely hard to roll perfect stats at low levels

[stoic halo]

clown gang rise up

[last roost]

actually no im naming myself ObscuraAddict, fire name

[placid gulch]

The cartel stim, stim supply ability, and chemical dependency hurt each other so much

[small grail]

I am, but it doesn't seem to be doing much helping. Maybe i just gotta be on a difficulty with more hordes but yeah it doesn't seem to be doing much. Especially because the stim cd doesn't start until its effects wear off

[drifting heron]

I got a 64% within like 100-200k and said good enough

[placid gulch]

If you use stim supply ability, it eats your cartel stim

[calm aurora]

You don't need it. Especially if you're Bellow 30. Don't chase 80/60 rolls

[stoic halo]

just run adrenaline and get your stim regen from sample collector.

[rigid summit]

are you up for a match to see who's bad (you) and who's the chad (me)

[stoic halo]

it's faster anyway

[last roost]

nvm cant use addict, lame

[shy scroll]

man i wanted to make chem oriented build with toxics only for them to go against each other makes me kinda sad

[placid gulch]

If you use your cartel stim, you can't benefit from your own stim supply ability

[calm aurora]

I want a 76 taxe so bad 🙁

[drifting heron]

It is midnight and I am actively cutting into useful sleep right now

[hallow osprey]

I don't know anything about that stat rolling crap
I get weapons and I break people's bones with them

[short vine]

It's been doing a lot of work for me personally, I run the stim supply action ability and I get my 75 second stim back in under 40 seconds or so

[placid gulch]

stim supply doesn't give you chemical dependency stacks

[rigid summit]

you could be cutting into heretics

[azure mist]

Correct

[small grail]

Stim supply seems to be very shit

[drifting heron]

Hit me tomorrow at like 5-6 pm PST

[shy scroll]

if im going toxic build what should i go mele or gun ability then?

[rigid summit]

worst time zone

[azure mist]

Adrenaline tbh

[drifting heron]

I'm dead tired after today and currently making that worse

[small grail]

Whatever you want ig. But probably melee

[azure mist]

Melee with Bonesaw kinda silly

[stoic halo]

are you procing tox?

[high gull]

@azure mist You still playing?

[blissful notch]

melee

[young herald]

oh man i just hit the wildest fucking bug, tried to attack out of a slide off a ledge and got stuck and unable to attack at all

[azure mist]

Dog I’m in bed

[drifting heron]

Inferior coast liver

[high gull]

Wild

[young herald]

was just charging heavies into block cancel on a loop

[azure mist]

Getting ready to sleep cause I have work in like 8 hours

[high gull]

Working in 8 hours

Wild

[shy scroll]

u think it wiill work with chem dependency?

[azure mist]

Yeah exactly I’m employed BUM

[iron patrol]

stim is nice when you arent the guy that sacrificed using rampage or desperado to use it, the corruption cleanse is nice for the spammy ones and the fulls specced out roid ones do stack with your own giga needle

[high gull]

Imagine not going to work on 2 hours of sleep

[rigid summit]

all im hearing is earthquake and wildfires

[small grail]

I think so, i'm using the shivs then stacking crit and stuff and using costed weapons. I think its because there aren't enough enemies in the difficulty i'm farming on to even matter

[high gull]

Smell weak out here

[small grail]

My teammates shoot at everything before i can even get to it

[azure mist]

Crate doesnt synergize well with Dependency keystone

[drifting heron]

I have experienced one earthquake and it was like mag 2

[rigid summit]

maggie?

[azure mist]

Adrenaline and Vultures pair better with it

[shy scroll]

this saddens me so much

[drifting heron]

And the fires haven't been bad near me recently

[short vine]

I'm actually a big fan of stim supply

[small grail]

It seems to have so synergy with anything

[stoic halo]

that could be true, but also you can guarentee tox with pocket toxin+ blackout into hoards

[placid gulch]

I get optimizing, but filling out the nodes in one path of the tree should at least "work" and it's largely non-functional. I like the potential that side of the tree has. It should be reworked, not because it doesn't "fully fulfill the fantasy" but because it is just broken

[rigid summit]

wait until the big one™ hits so california can finally return to the bottom of the ocean with atlantis

[short vine]

Giving all of my teammate's my stim buff for 15 second trhat includes like 20% strength and 15% crit chance on top of faster toughness regen and DR

[iron patrol]

if theres more than 2 desperados just lay back, walk behind them, shoot the occasional trapper and crusher they dont clock

[novel oracle]

the continued adventures of "these fucking bursters are going to make me hang myself"

[small grail]

Where is pocket toxin? And i don't think i can give up my launcher

[drifting heron]

Oh I'm waiting with baited breath
Arizona Bay here we come

[azure mist]

What number are we at now?

[young herald]

right above bottom right keystone

[high gull]

Video doesn't even play

Rip

[azure mist]

Cause the fact you haven’t just turned the game off and slept is crazy

[stoic halo]

pocket toxin is to the right of sample collector and does work with the rocket launcher but you won't get blitz back on melee kill.

[torpid cloud]

Since I feel like it got missed earlier

I have an issue with the ranged path

Thanks to the dual stubs or auto pistols I can chew through elites and hordes fine, but bosses and things like crushers shut me down bad

Anyone got a solution to that? Rn I'm just doing the usual and switch to the Daggers and rely on my teammates to take them down (if we are more than just scum)

[small grail]

This doesn't help my current predicament unfortunately. I need MORE enemies to kill to feed my stimm cd

[iron patrol]

launcher is worse than a krak grenade, the blinder nades are straight up a veteran shout and you get fucking 5 of them and one every 20 kills.

[young herald]

"git gud"

[torpid cloud]

[tepid hare]

use dagger rashad or shiv for crusher

[warped grove]

Rocket

[small grail]

Oh yeah i got pocket toxin. I just like the launcher even if its the worst blitz (unfortunately)

[drifting heron]

Or crowbar
Or bonesaw

[iron patrol]

you dont need to feed your stimm cd if you dont need to use it, literally just hang back, let the 2 firehoses do their shit, the game director does recognize you are literally doing nothing and usually tosses like 4 hordes in one and then you get to just go ham

[torpid cloud]

Also, seeing as pickpocket kinda solves ammo issues on its own
Is trying to cut down desperado cd kind of a waste?

Cause you know
Free reloads kind of lose their purpose if I get ammo back on elite kill anywho

[rigid summit]

i feel like the pull time of the launcher is stinky and stupid and bad

[small grail]

I do need to use it. For chem dependency

[rigid summit]

there isnt even a reload animation like did devs not intend you to have multiple rockets

[shy scroll]

atleast u say something funny when u pull it out, the tiny upside

[maiden bramble]

Reached level 30 for my Scumstain guy. I am free of the glass cannon curse.

[high gull]

https://tenor.com/view/lmao-lol-gif-12686237634488602894

[torpid cloud]

I don't really like it
I only get two, and a vet with crak grenades would do better

[rigid summit]

the rocket launcher is objectively cool to use though

[small grail]

Idk how they should but i feel like it should have a buff

[rigid summit]

i like blowing up carapace

[drifting heron]

Kill something with the 100 points and 1 stack of burn in the backblast

[calm aurora]

Chem nades are so much more effective tho

[iron patrol]

if you are using a full 75 second stimm tough luck, you should really stick to a sub-60 stimm for now as all hives want a horde and having constant 4 hives means you will starve

[high gull]

People are calling for chem nade nerfs already

[warped grove]

You can get 3 with a talent

I mean if its one crusher / mauler and not an elite horde

skill issue

[azure mist]

Tbf

[iron patrol]

anything but blinder nerfs, i need my pocket vet shout

[azure mist]

It’s immo nades but even better

[calm aurora]

Chem nades + the boost of pinning / blaze away is a lot

[small grail]

Is skill issue the only thing fellas say to eachother here? I see that thrown around a lot

[hallow osprey]

Vet shout that violently poisons people

[high gull]

I'm waiting to see if the devs are gonna hear the player base out and nerf stuff

[warped grove]

Well I dunno how else to put it if you cant kill one crusher, dodge and heavy stab over and over till you kill it

[high gull]

Only to then have the same community complain about nerfs

[torpid cloud]

Nah one really isn't a problem, this is a team game I don't usually try to solo things

I was just wondering if there are better choice than the dual stubs or machine pistols

[azure mist]

Rampage + Forges Bellow being VOC x2

Obviously minus the Golden

[hallow osprey]

Healing cartel stimm :)))))))

[rigid summit]

anything that makes vet look worse is a good thing in my book

[calm aurora]

Give power swords to scums. Problem fixed.

[warped grove]

Shivs or Saw

[high gull]

https://tenor.com/view/russian-badger-shiver-timbers-gif-6286978135979925060

[torpid cloud]

Tbh the saw seems really neat

[calm aurora]

https://tenor.com/view/shawshank-rain-gif-4884934164741133966

[iron patrol]

hitting a trash horde with a blinder nade and watching them all perish to the DoT like

[rigid summit]

i unironically saw a negative steam review saying that stims are useless because you cant use the heal stim anymore

[calm aurora]

Shaw

[warped grove]

I still prefer Shivs but I know a lot of people like saw for the toxic / brittleness effect

[small grail]

It may be true, yeah, in that scenario. But its a lil uncalled for i think

[warped grove]

Shrug

[stoic halo]

desperado gives you rending mobility and ranged immunity. cutting down its cd is worthwile. Especially because chip from ranged will kill you super fast on squishy classes.

[iron patrol]

OH GOD IT MAKES ME FUCKING DIE INSIDE EVERY TIME I COME ACROSS A HEALTH STIMM WITH 1 WOUND LEFT

[hallow osprey]

I just like fuckin' with ya
Also I like the clip of some guy saying "mods, strip that man of his flesh"

[torpid cloud]

I'm using shivs cause they seems solid even without melee investment

[warped grove]

They are

Lighr spam for crowd clear and heavy for carapce / flak / specials

[calm aurora]

I do think you should not bother with stimm cartel until lvl25+. Especially rn with 3 other hvs using cartel stimms

[azure mist]

Do… they not know you can just not invest into the Stim Lab…

[stoic halo]

it's a disposabel launcher. you literally drop it on the ground.

[azure mist]

For the base game stimms

Like

[kind zodiac]

so im not sure if this would work very well with the dual autopistols but im using run 'n' gun along with blaze away

[azure mist]

???

[hallow osprey]

Like the old German ones

[high gull]

You don't get it

[azure mist]

Panzerfaust?

[high gull]

I HAVE TO interact with the optional gameplay machanic

The game is FORCING me to

[hallow osprey]

I HAVE TO USE ALL THE POINTS
MY BRAIN WILL NOT ALLOW THERE TO BE A SINGLE POINT FREE
It's a problem.

[wispy vault]

It feels like a lot of people are sleeping on the ranged immunity, being able to freely move around the map when things get tight is insanely strong with how long the ult duration can be

[iron patrol]

did they buff the stimm spawn rates in missions specifically to taunt hivescum players with health stims they cant use?

[rigid summit]

brosef if you have to use a health stim then you need to get hit way less

[calm aurora]

Don't. You want blaze and speedloader for a ranged build. You already have run n gun in your auto pistols

[maiden bramble]

The sheer pain of having a full hive scum squad and coming across a healing stim

[azure mist]

Urggghhhhh rubbing my BELLAY at the idea of Toughness + CDR on demand

[warped grove]

Desperado is already the most used, defo not slept on, people just havent leveled to 30 to fully use it yet

[hallow osprey]

mhm.

[calm aurora]

https://tenor.com/view/euphoria-pop-art-the-feels-meme-gif-11334684

[torpid cloud]

By the way

What other guns are fun on the scum
Apart from the dw ones and the funny poison pistol

[high gull]

This is also some funny shit I wish more people pointed out btw....

[azure mist]

I love playing vet with Scum using the stim crate…

[high gull]

People who aren't even max level already saying the class is bad.

[stoic halo]

even just popping it to do obj makes a huge diff on this class. Did a hab drayko with 4 other stimheads and the only one who could do tree without being shot off of it was the desperado

[warped grove]

I swear med stims spawn 3x as much when I’m Scum

[kind zodiac]

are you being fr right now or are you pulling my leg?

[hallow osprey]

Full squad just gathered around the crate with the stimm in it like "damn"

[wispy vault]

Oh really ? My opinion was mainly from yt guides and the consensus seems to be that people arent too impressed, maybe it is not as good in havoc where you get a competent team lol

[azure mist]

#ShittersWillBeFilteredTillMoraleImproves

[calm aurora]

I like shotgun a lot for rampage builds. You got suppression, sniping, cleave...

[warped grove]

Desperado is meta in havoc

[iron patrol]

actually had a dude that didnt spec into cartel stimms with the med crate, the sheer joy of seeing a health stim get picked up and get tossed on the ground was so peak

[warped grove]

(So far)

[kind ice]

The flipside is great though. The absolute joy of being the only non-hive scum in a game, and drugging up on all the pickupables

[torpid cloud]

The point youtubers seem intent to feed me is that if you just slide and dodge the ranged immunity is useless

[rigid summit]

people are mad that this class isnt as brain dead as arbites is

[abstract lichen]

What guns do they run there

[warped grove]

You can sprint and shoot with Uzis by default

[maiden bramble]

Oh, so it works with regular stims too?

[iron patrol]

counterpoint, dose them with cyanide using needler

[warped grove]

Pistols or Mac 10s, I prefer the latter

[azure mist]

https://tenor.com/view/piss-nuke-piss-nuke-tutorial-truth-nuke-true-true-morgan-freeman-gif-1990497734463688507

[kind ice]

it proper is if you do desperado + pickpocket, i'm sure people will figure it out in a few days. Or not

[warped grove]

More crowd clear

[kind zodiac]

im just using the run n run for the upclose damage buff lol

[warped grove]

No matter the armor, if you pump 40 rounds into it, itll probably die

[calm aurora]

I am FR. Reloading will kill your dps. So blaze + speedloading is optimal with it. And shredders let you already sprint move and shoot.

[azure mist]

Rending node on Desperado

[bleak moon]

how do people slide backwards?

[warped grove]

Hes right

[iron patrol]

yeah you can infact blue stimm your rampage adrenaline crackhead teammates with their own meth stimms

[azure mist]

You will eat shit and die

[warped grove]

Dodge backwards and press ctrl

[rigid summit]

hip firing all the time takes a bit of getting used to but i enjoy it

[abstract lichen]

Dodge and press crouch

[stoic halo]

"I refuse to inform my own opinion and because people refuse to aknowledge the utility it provides because they are not creative enough with its use it's bad."

[wispy vault]

Dodge back and slide

[high gull]

Darktide players only know block and face tank.

[warped grove]

you can slide dodge in any direction

[rigid summit]

i just find the recoil of the twin autoguns to be hard to adjust to

[young herald]

hmm, is executor any good on the shivs?

[azure mist]

Block?

You’re being too generous there

[abstract lichen]

Or sprint slide and then spin 180degrees

[stoic halo]

braced autos are fun.

[kind zodiac]

well good to fucking know now im stoked

[calm aurora]

True. I have just made my first needle pistol so that i can try it!

[maiden bramble]

Tbf, you can facetank with the dodge that negates all melee 😭

[rigid summit]

im dumb enough to have not rebound my dodge key to not being space

[warped grove]

Hotline Miami type shit

[rigid summit]

so yes i do often jump in battle by accident

[calm aurora]

We're talking desperado. Otherwise i would probably go blaze + pinning

[hallow osprey]

4 levels away from being able to use ranged heroin :(

[high gull]

You think pub players know what a fucken DODGE is bro?

[small grail]

Come to the conclusion that maybe the shivs are bad on a build that used toxin for stimm cd

[wispy vault]

You're telling me i spent 90% of the game learning kiting with block push and now i have to kite a different way ? Noooooo

[high gull]

[bleak moon]

thats what I been doing

[iron patrol]

you want to find a balance between having stuff to shank and shanking hard enough to kill stuff, if you kill them too fast you cant sustain, if you cant kill them fast enough they outsustain you.

[calm aurora]

You mean jump.

[small grail]

But i can't seem to get the bone saw to work against armored enemies

[abstract lichen]

Giving your hands a workout

[warped grove]

That one trait for faster dodge recovers above 75% stamina is awesome, lets you have inf dodge basically

[rigid summit]

god forbid you find a pub sliding

[abstract lichen]

Actually why even sprint with scum

[maiden bramble]

Tbf, I'm more used to playing the tanky classes too. I got decimated a LOT at lower levels because the toughness recovery leaves me vulnerable af.

[abstract lichen]

Crab dodging is so much faster

[warped grove]

To get from point A to B faster

[abstract lichen]

Crab dodge is faster isn't it

[warped grove]

yeah

[stoic halo]

dodge backwards and slide

[maiden bramble]

faster and doesnt consume stam ye

[abstract lichen]

And you can reload

[rigid summit]

scum with dueling sword would be my coom

[abstract lichen]

Kinda crazy

[warped grove]

Its addicting ngl, welcome back csgo surf

[rigid summit]

imagine the amount of dodge refreshing scum would have with DS

[leaden lark]

It's not bad, but the tree sucks and completely antisynergystic

[stoic halo]

no

[bleak moon]

being locked out of stim heals kinda fucking sucks.

[leaden lark]

Doesn't take a genius to figure that out

[wispy vault]

Please spare my fingers from this torture

[warped grove]

Dont use cartel special then

[stoic halo]

you apply brittleness with purple and they fold like paper.

[abstract lichen]

They should let you use stims on the floor with a button press

Like why not

[rigid summit]

you will have arthritis and you will enjoy it

[kind zodiac]

i wonder would stimm supply work with stimms that you find in the map

[hallow osprey]

If I don't use the class' gimmic I will explode

[rigid summit]

i broke my right mouse button today by playing scum

[maiden bramble]

yeahhhh wish we had the ability to pick up both stims and just swap it vermintide style

[bleak moon]

it shoud just replace it and place your custom stim on a cool down

[dim moth]

purple mode has higher damage and brittleness on hit

[abstract lichen]

Just let me give birth to strength potions like grail knight 🫃

[hallow osprey]

flew too close to the scum

[rigid summit]

learn to not need heal stims anymore

stop getting hit

[lusty egret]

does this apply to dot caused by melee attacks?

[warped grove]

Medicae stations are usually plentiful unless youre on havoc as well lol, I dont know what the big deal is

[calm aurora]

Don't use cartel stimms until you're 25 and have points in survivability nodes and at least some tg curios. Relearn how to move and not face tank. Then you can take them. It will make your life so much easier.

[warped grove]

And only cause of the amount of enemies inbetween them

[kind zodiac]

well now maybe i wont be using the stimm lab after all

[abstract lichen]

My cartel stimms are just cooldown so I can spam desperado more

Is this the meta

[maiden bramble]

pretty much what you do lol

especially if u got chemical dependency

[rigid summit]

i like the attack speed so i can pretend im martyr zealot

[zenith fern]

Hmm this good for shivs crit build with chem stacks and bleed?

[abstract lichen]

Brrt

[rigid summit]

or just lone wolf arbites

i like fast attack speed

[drifting heron]

Scum blows martyr out of the water

[bleak moon]

I can dodge and parry its just the sliding I am having to learn as I just ignored that mechanic till now

[stoic halo]

i think not, but unless you are really close to oneshotting something it won't matter.

[abstract lichen]

Does scum funny oneshot bosses though

[drifting heron]

50% melee damage versus 75% melee power

[rigid summit]

yes this is why i keep saying scum is just better zealot

it's the zealot i always wanted

[abstract lichen]

Zealot without until cringe

[young herald]

you mean the inarguably best talent in the entire game?

[small grail]

Man this class is tough. I'm not used to playing something so squishy

[rigid summit]

nothing beats the feeling of martyr zealot and never dying though. broken af

[abstract lichen]

It's definitely good

[stoic halo]

if you can pick it up, go with close and deadly instead.

[lusty egret]

so it's not that good with bonesaw?

[small grail]

I have to dodge a lot better in melee with the scum than i did as zealot

[novel oracle]

base damage is multiplicitive with damage increase cuz it goes like this
(original damage * base damage + any other base damage buff) * (damage buff + any other damage buff)

similar to how power works

its just another thing takes your damage even further than what it reads

[abstract lichen]

How do you generate 3 chem stacks with a shiv regularly

Blinder?

[dim moth]

crit

or chuck a knife

[novel oracle]

yeah crit

[dim moth]

that applies 4 on hit

[abstract lichen]

Oh I forgot that talent exists

[stoic halo]

it's good . and with bonesaw you won't have any problems keeping it at max stacks, but if you're running a crit build and you can grab it, close and deadly also works on the tox damage. if you don't have the crit node or don't have the points, it's basically the same thing.

[rigid summit]

whats the point of throwing knives btw

[novel oracle]

its literally right before it so its perfect pathing

[dim moth]

me mulching hordes with my 72% crit chance knives

flesh tearer and toxin

[abstract lichen]

I'm level 20

[novel oracle]

they stack 4 toxin on hit, +1 on headshot, +1 on crit

[spice cloud]

Poison

[novel oracle]

nvm i lies

[rigid summit]

do they have good pen

[novel oracle]

its +2 on headshot/crit

[kind zodiac]

so it looks like the stimm supply can work as a pseduo veteran heal kit as long as you have a stimm that can heal

[dim moth]

irrelevant

DoT applies anyways

[stoic halo]

blinder, cleave, throwing your knives.

[novel oracle]

they deal almost no damage
the toxin is your damage

[abstract lichen]

Needler blessingn'ts

Needler cursings

[novel quest]

shout out to the irl Ogryn who stole every possible ammo tin, stash, and crate and left me without a singular nano-angstrom of bullet for 3/4ths of the game

[rigid summit]

bleed stacks all over again

[dim moth]

yeah except these kill carapace

so

[spice cloud]

It do be like that sometimes

[novel oracle]

but toxin has good amds against everything so rending isnt something that boosts it

it also scales linearly vs quadratically or whatever

[dim moth]

full toxin build has been absurdly strong for me in aurics

[novel oracle]

so lower stack counts are still worth it

[dim moth]

72% crit chance and a crit will just DoT anything it touches to death

[vast leaf]

bruh

[dim moth]

chuck a knife or two at a crusher, crit strikedown heavy and he's guaranteed dead

[bleak moon]

train mission 10 min tops

[kind zodiac]

how are you lot able to post photos and what not?

[rigid summit]

how many knives do you get though

[novel oracle]

no
twins

[novel quest]

could also just suicide rush

[novel quest]

that's just 200xp

[stoic halo]

magic

[dim moth]

three max

they refresh if you melee kill any elite/specialist

or backstab kill any enemy

[novel oracle]

when you talk for a bit longer youll auto get the redish role and can do so too

[vast leaf]

windows shift s

[lusty egret]

huh? it doesn't have stacks, it's just the toughness replenishment, which im not sure it procs that often because of the dot damage, exact reason why i swapped out the blackout (kills not counting on dot), so im trying to figure out if i should just swap it out for something like Float Like a Butterfly and Tis is But a Scratch

[rigid summit]

do you use the twin autoguns

[dim moth]

needle pistol

[rigid summit]

i cant decide if i like the autopistols or not

[dim moth]

more toxin more good

[novel oracle]

well it needs to be a melee kill on an enemy that has a toxin dot on them, so yeah its kinda inconsistent cuz the toxin might steal the kill first

[rigid summit]

the reload is so painful

[tepid hare]

speed loader is essential with autopistol

[limber cradle]

I love the autos tbh

[lusty egret]

damn, i thought so, it's unlucky because it's a bad synergy, applying chem in melee means most of your kills will be by dot

[spice cloud]

The reload is so smooth wdym?

[lusty egret]

hope they change this ngl

[leaden lark]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-silly-cat-silly-ahh-silly-ahh-cat-goofy-gif-15009262023119441493

[spice cloud]

Autopistols are goated

I feel like blade.

[small grail]

Whats the best talent to take on bone saw for single targets? This purple toxin isn't looking like enough to do any sort of actual damage to armor

Still takes ages to kill armored enemies

[hallow osprey]

folding my cat for easy storage

[maiden bramble]

Can't wait for a talent tree rework for scum in like 6 months because a good chunk of it is so useless

[novel oracle]

I mean it is a lot when it does proc, its 20% total from 1 kill when it does so if it procs a lot on quick succession thats a huge amount

[spice cloud]

[maiden bramble]

Middle blue keystones are pretty mid

[stoic halo]

sorry, I was doing something in the psykanium and got my wires crossed. honestly 15% toughness regen on melee tox kill is extremely solid. Shivs have high crit, blackout nades proc tox with pocket tox, and the bonesaw auto procs on attacks. the only thing to look out for is being in a damage range where you almost oneshot an enemy with the bonesaw and they die to tox. i was thinking about toxin mania vs close and deadly.

[scenic viper]

Can the hivescum use the spearhead boltgun or no

[spice cloud]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-cat-gif-27161395

[limber cradle]

No

[rigid summit]

i wish they shot a little slower so i could use them without aiming like a crackhead

[scenic viper]

💔

[spice cloud]

Take the uzis then

[lusty egret]

if i use rampage and or stim, without any buffs i do 3 shot a crusher using purple coating

[spice cloud]

Hold on nvm

[rigid summit]

thats what i mean, the starter double smg

[spice cloud]

They shoot even faster

Ahhhh

Take the stub pistols then

Thats whatbi meant

[small grail]

Rampage and stim ARE buffs?

[stoic halo]

what are you talking about? the talents above the middle keystone?

[lusty egret]

yea like, i have to pay attention the melee attack deals the last damage, i would like to have uptime mod

[young forum]

is there a mod that allows you to see your stim cd?

[turbid fulcrum]

But it gets the bpistol

[spice cloud]

If you put run and gun on em they are so much better

[lusty egret]

yea yea, i mean they are kinda specific buffs, im not counting in any blessing or thing from the tree

[rigid summit]

yeah i got one. the aim is better but the recoil just messes me up so much

[stoic halo]

honestly it's so fringe you shouldn't worry about it.

[young forum]

kinda stupid that a very important part of the kit is guesswork no?

[maiden bramble]

Some of the ones above the aura keystones, yeah. A chunk of em are pretty awful.

[rigid summit]

it's like the only gun in the game with any actual recoil i have to compensate for

[last roost]

what is viscosity?

[spice cloud]

Just pull down your mouse the moment you start shooting

[calm aurora]

win + shit + s

[turbid fulcrum]

ye

[young forum]

can you link it please?

[small grail]

I don't seem to have your luck with that. Is there an attack i'm missing

[young forum]

or give the name

[rigid summit]

i know but it's weird that no other gun requires this!!

[spice cloud]

It does make sense cause its 2 handed and u cant use the stocks

[turbid fulcrum]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/653

[lusty egret]

i just heavy 1, cancel, heavy 1, cancel, heavy 1

[young forum]

Thank you good sir

[random shuttle]

Best mod.