hivescum-class

[novel oracle]

its so fucking op bro 😭

especially with the autos

[tribal bane]

my issue is I want chem tox stacks, which that just doesn't help alot with

[livid raven]

i'm grinding levels and i kinda just

completed a mission without using melee

[obsidian crown]

What’s a good melee for a desperado build to counter crushers? That’s my only weakness

[novel oracle]

well you cant really get a hybrid of those two without ending up sucking at both tbh

[hazy vector]

What they have to do with each other

[tribal bane]

welcome to unlimited ammo

[tribal bane]

fuck

[dim moth]

use shivs and throw knives at them until they die of ligma

[shrewd spoke]

Brittle coating bone saw

[novel oracle]

i just use shivs
usual armor damage and they have toxin knives to throw at bosses to suppliment your subpar melee damage

[rare grotto]

min-maxing is the name of the game when building in this game

[grave venture]

min everything else, max damage

[obsidian crown]

Perks and blessings? Uncanny with precog and carapace and something?

[grand jewel]

is there a reload speed cap?

[novel oracle]

the name of the game for desperado builds is
never ever ever stop shooting things
reloading takes time which means you arent shooting things
so dont do that and just reload almost instantly

[glass spade]

You deserve a hug

[novel oracle]

that works
or riposte cuz hyper crit is right there

either or

[grave venture]

Cole how does one get the cooldown reduction to never reload

[dim moth]

actual honest to god gun primary weapon build

[grave venture]

And how dont you run out of ammo

[novel oracle]

pickpocket when not in desperado

[toxic dagger]

how many stacks per knife?

[livid raven]

it is fine apparently

[obsidian crown]

Got it. Carapace and maniac or something else?

[willow onyx]

I hope we get some heavy weapons for hive ganger and arbitrators down the line, would be cool to see a two-handed arbities shock maul or a chain greataxe for the hive scum since the eviscerators are zealots domain.

[shrewd spoke]

Desperado builds are actually really funny because at some point you simply can’t run out of ammo even when not using the ability

[hazy vector]

What desperado has to dow ith it? Or do you mean ability? I thought ofg blessing

[grave venture]

Its balanced because it doesnt have high range

[grand jewel]

[shrewd spoke]

Yup

[grave venture]

😑

And no cooldown?

[novel oracle]

the ability/playstyle

[shrewd spoke]

None

[toxic dagger]

shooting during enhanced desperado doesnt consume ammo.

[random shuttle]

Dang

my right nut hurts a little

[grand jewel]

you also dont need ammo to use desperado

[shrewd spoke]

No cooldown free 20% refill on kill

[toxic dagger]

so you make a stimm for cooldown reduction so you can get enhanced desperado back asap

[novel oracle]

4 on hit, +2 on weakspot and +2 on crit

[grave venture]

I APOLOGIZE?

[toxic dagger]

and then you conserve ammo in-between ults a lil

and you can gun the whole world down

[random shuttle]

also Pickpocket 😄

[livid raven]

for the desperado stimm, 25% cdr or 100% cdr for 1 second on ranged kill?

[random shuttle]

Ammo Eco Done Right

[toxic dagger]

yeah. I recommend reading the whole talent tree

[shrewd spoke]

Yup makes you feel more like an orc than hive scum with all the dakka

[grand jewel]

it does out of the gun, just reloading doesn't take ammo

really fun playstyle with the dual autos

just all of the BRRT

[grave venture]

Well yeah but I didn't consider that possibility and wanted to try the other ones

[novel oracle]

like just look at this

havoc 36

[random shuttle]

Imma gonna do Desperado with BRAUTO

Brautorado

Brutado

[shrewd spoke]

Currently stimm supply is the worst ability

[random shuttle]

It is?

Damn. Must've used it too well.

[toxic dagger]

desperado on a gun that doesnt have run n gun is not nearly as fun

sprinting at top speed while brrrrrrting is so peak

[novel oracle]

cuz of the baked in +20% sprint speed

[toxic dagger]

exactly

[shrewd spoke]

Compared to desperado and rampage absolutely underpowered with a passive that can apparently just not work sometimes

[random shuttle]

Having an unlimited bomb that does 7 stacks of Chem on 20s~ cooldown works nice for me 😄

[toxic dagger]

and you need to get in close range to trigger the extensions anyway

brauto is too slow

[obsidian crown]

Desperado is also a nice safe res tech if there’s a ton of ranged spam on a downed person too

[shrewd spoke]

My first run with stimm supply I had a full bar of corruption but no matter how long I stood in the crate radius that corruption did not disappear

[random shuttle]

@shrewd spoke I think it's more about use case; Try it as a bomb build. Is fun.

[vast yoke]

so is the curio meta established yet?

[grave venture]

https://tenor.com/view/futurama-philip-j-fry-drool-drooling-foaming-gif-4920062

[shrewd spoke]

When the ability literally doesn’t do what it says it does that’s a pretty big problem

[grave venture]

Need

[woeful trellis]

all unlimited corruption healing (everything that isn't medicae station or med stimm, basically purity and stimm supply) can only heal partially corrupted wounds, so once you have a fully purple wound that's it

[dim moth]

it does do what it says it does

you either use it with a fully loaded stimm and the keystone to reduce your cooldown for the funny medkit

or you use a deliberately shit tstimm to spam it as a toxin bomb

[random shuttle]

my beloved

[dim moth]

or no stimm because you're deranged

and give the whole team triple cooldown yellow stimms because nobody likes lemon flavor

[vast yoke]

imma try the chem bomb build that's pretty funny

[novel oracle]

only healing stims and med stations can heal corruption past wound thresholds

stimm supplys are no exception

[cedar cairn]

I just use my cartel on maxed cdr to get more Desperados

[random shuttle]

It gets some practice to do right

[grand jewel]

team green stims sound nice

[random shuttle]

since the bomb has a LONG 5s fuse

[novel oracle]

if it did, that would be overwhelmingly gamebreaking

[random shuttle]

but once you get the placement nailed

[obsidian crown]

Question. Does desperado and ranged buffs buff the boomstick dmg?

[rigid violet]

is the heroine needle shooter good

[grand jewel]

honestly no stim is probably stronger just less reliable

[vast yoke]

do you just use a 15s stim for it then

[novel oracle]

and defeat the point of the wound/down system

[random shuttle]

it's fun to have literally unlimited solid strong nade

[novel oracle]

the rocket? yes

[random shuttle]

yes

[vast yoke]

i see

[shrewd spoke]

That would explain part of why it didn’t work but also sounds really weak

[dim moth]

chem grenades giving 6 stacks

funny crate doing 7

lol

[random shuttle]

yup

love it 😄

[obsidian crown]

That explains how I one tapped a chaos spawn on heresy while leveling. I had like some kind of stimm buff from a stimm HS player and max ranged damage and he died in one boomstick

[grand jewel]

crate can also stack those 7 while they have 6 or more

[fast gust]

Oh great seer of the stars, is our beloved, glorified holy hand grenade of a stim dispenser gonna get buffed?

[grand jewel]

nades cant stack toxin if they have 6 already

[novel oracle]

the meat of the ability is still sharing the stim effects
thats just a baseline effect
corruption immunity is pretty strong tho depending on the situation
makes you immune to dog damage
rodin mines
you take like no damage to your health from gas

[tribal bane]

youtube age estimation is trying to stop me from watching adrec

[grand jewel]

burgle eat

[dim moth]

oh my god wait corruption immunity

[compact oyster]

yuo bloody rotter

[random shuttle]

Bone Saw + Needle + Tox Bomb Ult and I am THE KEMIST

[dim moth]

blight spreads is DEAD

[grand jewel]

shit stim 15s cooldown bomb for the immunity

lol

[modern harness]

someone explain hyper violence node

[grand jewel]

no

[novel oracle]

yeah theres a lot of things

[grand jewel]

25% of the amount of damage you overkill them for is added on to your next attack for 1 second

[toxic dagger]

25% of the excess damage you dealt to an enemy that you killed becomes a buff to your dmg for the next 1s

[random shuttle]

Killing an enemy with any attack adds a flat damage bonus to subsequent melee attacks for 1s. The flat amount of bonus damage carried over is 25% of the difference between the enemy's health when killed and the attack's damage dealt. The active duration can be refreshed only if the overkill damage amount that is supposed to be carried over to the next melee attack is greater than the overkill damage amount that was carried over on the previous proc.

For example, killing an enemy who has 300 current health with a melee attack that deals 500 damage results in an overkill damage amount of 500-300=200. A quarter of this overkill damage amount is carried over, so the same melee attack would then deal 500+200x0.25=550 damage. Now, for as long as it is possible to accumulate an increasing carry-over amount of overkill damage (e.g. by getting damage buffs, by targeting enemies with low health, by switching from an attack with low base damage to an attack with high base damage, etc), the 1s duration will be refreshed and the next melee attack will be buffed accordingly. When the carry-over amount of overkill damage does not increase between two attacks, the 1s duration will not be refreshed and the buff effect will reset.

[shrewd spoke]

It really depends on what your fighting and with either of the other abilities or just assistance from your teammates most of the threats the crate deals with can just not be a problem

[novel oracle]

ok lemme type it out

[grand jewel]

woa

[novel oracle]

or that

[toxic dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/hey-hindi-bollywood-ignore-gif-9870264

[random shuttle]

Courtesy of: Kuli's Guide

[novel oracle]

fireant can just copy kuli

[grand jewel]

im stealing that copy paste

[novel oracle]

lmao

[toxic dagger]

Yeah we should all just refer to kuli

[novel oracle]

it lets you do this

[toxic dagger]

Gobless that person

[grand jewel]

Kuli our beloved

[dim moth]

hey come to think of it don't most the brutal momentum weapons overkill enemies by like

a lot?

[modern harness]

so just free dmg and u should always take it

[random shuttle]

In Kuli We Trust

[grand jewel]

https://tenor.com/view/jack-nicholson-jack-nicholson-yes-yes-nod-head-nod-gif-17444176260167585294

[dim moth]

oh

[toxic dagger]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1159845224634388512/1441815297794506823/RDT_20251122_1635326253338966886914647.gif

[shrewd spoke]

Hive scum is a walking problem

[grand jewel]

[novel oracle]

then they get hit twice and then theyre dead

[cedar cairn]

Hyperviolence Axe Murder

[grand jewel]

been playing BG3 and my god that fits shart perfectly

[dim moth]

yeah until a single shooter lights them up and then they become a dead problem

[novel oracle]

heavy sword moment!

[shrewd spoke]

True they feel like they fall faster than even my Psyker

[novel oracle]

rampage can give it 25% rending for free!

[novel oracle]

yeah because psyker is tanky

and scum is glass

[cursive mica]

Hive scum had succesfully replicated pre-toughness-buff-psyker on havoc 20+

But like at all times

[shrewd spoke]

Nah my psyker is very squishy because I make builds like an ape

[cursive mica]

You are either balling
Or you're bawling

[random shuttle]

That's my feel: Scum feels like High Octane Super Juicer DMG shitter but then he dies to a single Sassy Mauler from Behind.

Yeah

exactly.

[floral verge]

🔥 🔥 🔥

Real

[fast gust]

And steam users want him to be less squishy because they go horizontal.

[random shuttle]

I almost understand them.

Because the previous Class.

[floral verge]

Torbek jumpscare holy

[cursive mica]

Scum is too strong to be less squishy
This needle pistol is so nice

[random shuttle]

Was Arbites - The Unkillable 😄

[fast gust]

🏴‍☠️ -🐝 -tes

[cursive mica]

You can kinda make a tanky build with them

[obtuse star]

Any advice on what to use while leveling because I'm struggling a bit with the shuvs and dual pistols

[cursive mica]

But I don't have the node selection atm to do it in full cause I'm not maxed yet

[random shuttle]

Arby is a wall and I love him for that.

[shrewd spoke]

My Psyker is pure peril purging so I can spam lighting and fire as much as physical possible because apparently all my teammates cant handle a simple horde of pox walkers

[cedar cairn]

Scum is great but dear god we need a fuckin Ogryn or Arby around to scrape them off the floor, these 4 man Scum squads are not sustainable

[grand jewel]

alot of things die to a single mauler from behind

[compact oyster]

now that servers work hive scum can actualy dodge

[grand jewel]

[floral verge]

Playing a gundancer hivescum that dies from being looked at too hard and switching to th the arbitrator castigator "press F to win" is such a weird experience LMAO

[random shuttle]

Listen as Arby/Ogg main, I don't understand this message

[floral verge]

Arbitrator is unstoppable

[warped grove]

Whats a good dump stat for Shivs? mobility?

[fast gust]

You guys dodge? Ogryn probably

[novel oracle]

yes

[dim moth]

of course I do how else do I stagger the entire horde

[toxic dagger]

Shivs are all you need. Learn to embrace the ways of the ninja. Become speed

[floral verge]

When in doubt dump mobility

[grand jewel]

imagine hive scum that has gold from zealot or vet

[floral verge]

When not in doubt, also dump mobility

[warped grove]

Figure it would be different considering how much Scum is about mobility

[random shuttle]

scum does have like 100 talents for Dodging

[warped grove]

though I reckon theres not that much different

[novel oracle]

now imagine what our 4 stack hive scum havoc 40s were like with last havoc seasons modifiers were
rotten armor stims and purple

[toxic dagger]

But if you are struggling while levelling. Just use a shared weapon you already have mastery on

[floral verge]

Scum has a bajillion dodge talents so dumping mobility is fine tbhers

[shrewd spoke]

Your dodge so good you throw yourself off a cliff

[warped grove]

alright thanks

[random shuttle]

that's another thing

as much as I love the new weapons

Scumbo with OLD tools feels GRRREAT

Rashad+Revolver Scum

[cedar cairn]

Havoc
I can't get through a fuckin Heresy without a clusterfuck

[random shuttle]

amazing fun

[shrewd spoke]

I feel that

[calm aurora]

especially when you are the only one doing objectives

[modern harness]

need tips for crowbar build

[grave venture]

Ok this feels like forbidden knowledge

[modern harness]

what u guys think

[floral verge]

I've since swapped back to my Arbitrator for the time being until the scum horde settles a bit

[cedar cairn]

On one hand I do like playing Ogryn and want to hear the new voice
On the other hand, I wanna play more Scum

[floral verge]

Its pretty fuckin bad lmfao

But also hilarious

[grave venture]

Twin stubs with the enhanced desperado is so good

[random shuttle]

It iiiis refreshing coming back to Arby from Scum

[novel oracle]

hyper violence is the forbidden knowledge

[random shuttle]

it feels like you have 1000 HP and 3000 Toughness 😄

[fast gust]

[shrewd spoke]

Once I finish leveling scum I’m probably heading back to my arbities or Psyker

[floral verge]

Castigator win button reigns supreme

[grave venture]

Learn me what the hell that actually means

[toxic dagger]

I'm going to keep playing Scum until I'm tweaked out of my mind

[toxic dagger]

And then go back to Ogryn

And become death

[shrewd spoke]

Cause I don’t feel like playing havoc without smite or a dog as a safety net

[round drum]

Castigator’s Stance is practically invincibility

[toxic dagger]

Destroyer of worlds

[warped grove]

still have no idea what this does

[random shuttle]

I am too based for Easy Casti. I am the BLOODY BATTERING RAM BASH CHAD.

[floral verge]

More or less

[rare grotto]

Ogrynheimer!

[toxic dagger]

Part of Overkill dmg becomes bonus dmg for 1sec

[vale garden]

Scumming until you arrive at Ogryn

[grave venture]

Is it like your melee kills will make your next enemy hit take more damage makes the next enemy you hit take more damage and so on?

[grand jewel]

Killing an enemy with any attack adds a flat damage bonus to subsequent melee attacks for 1s. The flat amount of bonus damage carried over is 25% of the difference between the enemy's health when killed and the attack's damage dealt. The active duration can be refreshed only if the overkill damage amount that is supposed to be carried over to the next melee attack is greater than the overkill damage amount that was carried over on the previous proc.

For example, killing an enemy who has 300 current health with a melee attack that deals 500 damage results in an overkill damage amount of 500-300=200. A quarter of this overkill damage amount is carried over, so the same melee attack would then deal 500+200x0.25=550 damage. Now, for as long as it is possible to accumulate an increasing carry-over amount of overkill damage (e.g. by getting damage buffs, by targeting enemies with low health, by switching from an attack with low base damage to an attack with high base damage, etc), the 1s duration will be refreshed and the next melee attack will be buffed accordingly. When the carry-over amount of overkill damage does not increase between two attacks, the 1s duration will not be refreshed and the buff effect will reset.

[novel oracle]

you deal 500 dmg to an enemy with 100 hp remaining, so 400 overkill
1/4th of that is 100 damage
this is now added to your attacks for 1s, or until you reproc it

[floral verge]

Honestly running a bash arby for the penances was quite fun

[warped grove]

oh my gamer

[floral verge]

I still play it occasionally

[fast gust]

It's fun to give Ogryn attack speed with the stim dispenser
Ogryn becomes a machine that turns 'eretics into paste

[unborn glade]

Kills grants +25% of the difference between the Damage dealt by your attack and the Health of the killed Enemy as Melee Damage for 1s.

[random shuttle]

I love Bash Arby

[grave venture]

Oh and it stays until you reproc it, so if you spam at a horde...

[hazy vector]

also the reload node in stim lab amazing for this

[drowsy relic]

Would battering strikes or hyper violence be better if I'm doing rampage with shivs and needle pistol

[random shuttle]

give him his Arby Maul

[novel oracle]

hyper violence can increase the damage of its refresh

[random shuttle]

(most op weapon)

[toxic dagger]

need

[floral verge]

I just play castigator because I love my huge fuck off shotgun

[random shuttle]

and go to town

[grave venture]

HOLY

[floral verge]

The resounding BOOM and seeing a specialist get turned into fertilizer literally never gets old

[hazy vector]

What is at work here

[toxic dagger]

@random shuttle I'm gonna need you to stimm my Ogryn up with attack speed as support scum sometime

[woeful trellis]

if you deathblow/brutal momentum 4 enemies, do you get quadruple the overkill? my guess is no

[novel oracle]

hyper violence

[warped grove]

also, can you not do Maelstrom on Damnation anymore?

unless its level locked

[novel oracle]

heres what it looks like with bm when horde enemies get in the way of my strikedowns aimed at a boss

[vale garden]

Cole

Whats the blessings on hsword?

[novel oracle]

ht deathblow

[fast gust]

classic

[vale garden]

Right

I wasnt having as much luck with it as I thought I would (I was like level 19, so wasn't expecting it to be perfect), suspected it was my blessing setup letting me down

[toxic dagger]

Correct, heresy and auric only

[drowsy relic]

Weird choice

[grave venture]

Why?

[toxic dagger]

Because that's the way it is

[shrewd spoke]

Fair enough I suppose

[novel oracle]

why is it the way that it is

[toxic dagger]

I don't know, ask your mom

[rapid mango]

damnation mael would just be slightly less intensity than auric

not worth

[woeful trellis]

it actually does look like quadruple... maybe 1 hit with 4 kills does count overkill for each!

[drowsy relic]

Cole personally took away auric maelstrom

[novel oracle]

she said "who are you and how did you get in my house"
that didnt really answer my question though

[calm aurora]

Cole, why on your crit melee build you're not taking crit on dodge?

[grand jewel]

she said ask hank

[woeful trellis]

also are you on us west/east? i think earlier today i played an ill-fated havoc game with you

[novel oracle]

wrong person

[woeful trellis]

or someone also called localcartniteplug

[novel oracle]

and did i not fucking fix it

[grand jewel]

fan account

[woeful trellis]

makes sense

[fast gust]

There's an EU imposter

[novel oracle]

that was either me
or someone that stole the name

did they have a title

[calm aurora]

nope

[vernal sluice]

there are europeans among us 😨

[novel oracle]

that was different than normal

[woeful trellis]

uhhhhhh i can't remember, i was busy dying

but the ogryn blamed them for running off and rezzing instead of focusing twin

[novel oracle]

that was me lmfao

[woeful trellis]

nice

i was the zealot... sorry

[fast prawn]

you heard the man

focus twin

[novel oracle]

i left abrupty cuz i was summoned by a group

[woeful trellis]

twins kick my ass a lot when i run relic blade

[novel oracle]

FOCUS UP TWIN

[drowsy relic]

I've seen a few "upstanding-citizen"s

[grand jewel]

just hit them

[woeful trellis]

thats what i did

but she hit me back and i exploded

[fast prawn]

i have been directly hit by the twin mines playing scum more than any other class

[grand jewel]

best ive seen so far is SaintMethalina

[fast prawn]

didnt even know direct hits slow you to a crawl

[drowsy relic]

Amazing

[novel oracle]

yeah it was really just do we do a 2v2 when i have no survivability or damage against them
or do i try to get the other 2 people back in quickly when i have the means and lack of aggro to do so

[grand jewel]

stop using logic

[novel oracle]

i literally have 3 revive speed perks lmfao

[grand jewel]

fight twin

[drowsy relic]

I'm "Works-Nine-to-Five" which a few players have abbreviated to 9 2 5 which is kinda funny

[fast gust]

Makes me wonder how people got it because the word Meth is currently censored

[novel oracle]

like in havoc its not a bad idea to have someone who currently lacks aggro to break off to get a rez thats free

[woeful trellis]

i always get too greedy vs twins and swing when i should be blocking

[fast gust]

I tried to name myself GordonFreemeth, GordonFentman and GordonMethman

All denied, so I settled with GordonFreechem

[grand jewel]

nope, attack twin

[woeful trellis]

i thought until death would bail me out but it was still on cd...

[atomic quiver]

im struggling with gunners and just ranged enemies in general when i dont run gunslinger, any tips?

[grand jewel]

use cover like every other class

[woeful trellis]

i think you did the best you could! feels like twins is a rough matchup for people who need kills and/or weakspot hit... my arby has close to no toughness regen when dueling twins cuz concussive + force of will doesn't work on shields

[grand jewel]

arby is one of the best at killing twins

[atomic quiver]

i dont rly feel the need of using cover with any other class at lower difficulties all of em got a lot of damage reduction

[grand jewel]

arb maul absolutely dunks on them

[woeful trellis]

oh maybe im doing it wrong

[atomic quiver]

and psyker just puts down bubble

[vernal sluice]

first non 4 scum qp that was fast

[novel oracle]

in situations like twins im best at keeping the space clear with that build

no specialists or elites allowed

die

explode

[woeful trellis]

makes sense

[fast prawn]

i like scum, what i dont like is the insane amount of visual clutter chem tox does

as if we needed another thing to clog the screen

[grand jewel]

best clip I have on hand but I have others killing havoc twins even faster

just funny attack speed

[shrewd spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/grande-chama-gif-25469075

How it feels to hivescum

[olive tinsel]

is blessed stims working? it doesnt seem to be clearing my corruption

[vast yoke]

low CD 7 stack poison bomb kinda fun

[grand jewel]

won't clear full wounds of corruption

[vast yoke]

wish it was like 2 seconds not 5 tho XD

[grand jewel]

nothing except med stim or med station will

[novel oracle]

wont cross wound thresholds

[random shuttle]

yeah it takes some getting used to

[grand jewel]

^ better wording

[olive tinsel]

oh interesting is that the same for the stimm supply?

[grand jewel]

same for everything that cleanses corruption that isn't med stim or med station

[twilit smelt]

Are there any buffs you get for not using the stim system besides being able to pick up normal stims?

[woeful trellis]

how do you have so much attack speed? i feel like my maul is way slower

[rare grotto]

or vet buffed medpack iirc

[novel oracle]

arbites vigilant shock mine exploit

[woeful trellis]

what

[olive tinsel]

good to know thank you!

[grand jewel]

this interacts weirdly with abilty and arb vigilant

[grand jewel]

no

[dapper prairie]

@novel oracle hsword cara unyield?

[shrewd spoke]

Feels underpowered for an ability sure the custom stimm effect is a good selling point but you have basically no reason to use the supply without the stimm off cooldown

[dim moth]

what is scum's base crit chance?

[dim moth]

people use the corruption cleansing aura on zealot

[silver mural]

I really like the poison explosions on flashbangs, clears hordes alot better then i thought it would.

Although the anti synergy of tox chem and recharging flashbangs can make getting the charges a little annoying on a tox chem build

[random shuttle]

10%

[dim moth]

supply is a direct upgrade to that aura in every way imaginable

[novel oracle]

are you asking if those are the perks for it period or on scum

[grand jewel]

corruption immunity

[dapper prairie]

scum

only the scum

[novel oracle]

at the cost of a useful ability

[shrewd spoke]

Another problem the radius of the crate

[dim moth]

7 toxin stacks

[novel oracle]

whereas zealot it costs next to nothing

[dim moth]

on zealot it costs the TDR aura

[dapper prairie]

so uh what am i running on the scum

[grand jewel]

problem to who?

[shrewd spoke]

It looks way too small

[novel oracle]

which is not that big of a deal

[grand jewel]

its a modified med crate why would it have different radius

[graceful quest]

I don't have the new class yet, how good is the damage over time portion of the class?

[dapper prairie]

do i want flakiac or caraunyield

[novel oracle]

on scum it costs your ability which is like 50% of your survivability and damage

[grand jewel]

yes

[random shuttle]

Very gud

Can Damage things Over Time

[graceful quest]

Thank you Torbek

[novel oracle]

i do carapace unyielding because it can do good damage to both with what they can get
and rampage does enough damage you dont need more damage for flakiak

[silver mural]

It feels great if you build cleave on the saw. Which is so easy to do with this class Haha.

And the needler is great too if you are patient

[random shuttle]

It's wicked to see in general

[dapper prairie]

phew, almost had an individual thought there

[shrewd spoke]

It just feels underpowered compared to infinite bullets and unga bunga till your sitting on a mountain of corpses

[dapper prairie]

thank u cole

[novel oracle]

awesomesauce hsword

[near vapor]

why does this not give progress lmao

[random shuttle]

That current meta pushed Flakniac aside and Carpuny is the new hotness for some time now

[dapper prairie]

is that on havoc btw

[covert lagoon]

I hate that the toughness replenish on ranged kills does t work on needler

[novel oracle]

just auric

[grand jewel]

not everything has to be top of the line S tier meta slop, it adds something different to the game

[novel oracle]

in havoc theyd have 50% more hp

[tribal bane]

I just learned that Maddoc Grotsnik, Ghazkull's personal painboy, know's the word bequeathed

[drowsy relic]

You gain it when you lose them I think

[graceful quest]

I've always wanted to have a damage over time focus, bleed on vet or zealot just didn't do it for me so this is all good to know

[dapper prairie]

😭 and rotting armor

[compact oyster]

I need 1 more vultures mark im going to tweak the fuck out

[dapper prairie]

please tell me scum got something for armor

[tribal apex]

is the dual stub pistols special just cosmetic or is the shot after the little spin special?

[vale garden]

Id be pretty surprised if they dont nerf pickpocket

[near vapor]

explain

[novel oracle]

which isnt in the pool rn

[dapper prairie]

oh its gone

[novel oracle]

needle pistol

[dapper prairie]

i'm freeee

[random shuttle]

Sure

[silver mural]

But for some reason "in your face" damage node does and i dont fucking understand why since it seems no other ranged damage node does

[random shuttle]

Needle Pistol

Crowbar

[toxic dagger]

Special. Pinpoint accuracy and some bonus stats

[shrewd spoke]

If there is a better option people will simply use that very few people will take the worse option especially a more casual player

[random shuttle]

Purple goo Boneappletea

[novel oracle]

this is for a hsword build

[dapper prairie]

i meant like rotten armor but its gone so anything

[grand jewel]

better option for what?

[zenith pagoda]

Yes, toxin basically ignores armour

[dapper prairie]

at last i'm free of rotten

[novel oracle]

but hsword can deal with armor well now cuz rampage rending, all the power, and hyper violence

[random shuttle]

I use crowbar in my hsword build

😏

[tribal apex]

damn, so for long range engagements it's spin shoot spin shoot spin shoot?

[kind mist]

'In your face' is close damage conditional on having 2nd equipment slot

not ranged damage technically

[spare glen]

speaking of needle pistol it’s kinda awesome

950 a tick

[shrewd spoke]

Ability and build in general the stimm build just isn’t that good right now

[zenith pagoda]

I'm still gonna use my trusty bolt pistol

[novel oracle]

on what, an unarmored gunner?

[empty bough]

what do you guys dump on dual autopistols?

[silver mural]

Crowbar is fun, the beak mode seems to stun lock crushers

[spare glen]

on crusher duh

[tribal bane]

but dual stubs...

[main trellis]

Mob

[shrewd spoke]

Pregnant man me all you want you know I’m right

[empty bough]

isn't collat good for it? dunno if it staggers elites or such tho

[grand jewel]

damage

[novel oracle]

what buffs are you getting to take a 440 base damage dot at 30 stacks to 950 damage per tick

[grand jewel]

you're coping I am just going to stop engaging lol

[drowsy relic]

You gain progress when you lose the stacks so you're no longer at max

I think hank said this or maybe it's just bugged

[vale garden]

This is the brap brap build yeah?

[silver mural]

I wish the stimm keystone worked with the crate

[spare glen]

well it all started with hot shot

[vale garden]

it will, its bugged

[tribal bane]

I think it's supposed to, it's just a bug

[obsidian crown]

Speed loader instead of run and gun

[near vapor]

I see so I need to lose 3-4 stacks yea

the description says otherwise 💀

[shrewd spoke]

How am I coping? I’m literally just stating fact that beating everything to death and firing infinite bullets is much better than putting a crate down that will occasionally be helpful for someone somewhere

[silver mural]

That changes nothing in the right now, i spose ill use the melee keystone for now

[drowsy relic]

Switch run and gun for the reload one maybe? It has inate run and gun

[tribal bane]

I got that very much unintentionally

[vale garden]

I saw Cole and Hank talking run n gun, thought that was the play

[tribal bane]

and I think that's funny

[obsidian crown]

No. They said speedloader for auto pistols

[zenith pagoda]

Has anyone tested if lethal prox works with blackout nades?

[grand jewel]

test it with boom tube

[spring umbra]

DANTHONY HI

[vale garden]

go 2 bedge stan

[spring umbra]

NO YOU NO YOU

[vale garden]

i literally am about to

[spring umbra]

But you aren’t

[untold garden]

Hive Scum turned out much harder to play than godmode Arbites lol
can't scum all over heretics like i planned

[shy scroll]

hows the needle gun? i kinda wana make a toxic based scum?

[silver mural]

Im definitely inspecting the floor more often

[random shuttle]

Needle gun can 1 shot most enemies

3 shot big guys

[cursive mica]

Scum on them anyways

[untold garden]

chem toxin is a very strong DoT, the Needle gun turns out very strong

[shy scroll]

so ur saying my idea of making toxic based boy is going to work, nice

[lavish bronze]

Tommorow maybe ill play

[cursive mica]

Needle gun is fun just not as balls to wall as your other choices

Its deffo a diff playstyle

[random shuttle]

Needler is a precise surgery tool

just wanna remove a guy

[drowsy relic]

You'll want the 10% toxin damage near the bottom of the tree (where it splits off before the keystones) and its so so good

[random shuttle]

remove a guy

[woeful trellis]

i don't know if chem tox was nerfed just before release but there's a vid out there that shows 1k ticks https://youtu.be/HVOtJqhkR44?t=398 ... idk what exactly this guy is running but his buff bar is pretty empty. 20% strength from stim, 25% carapace, 15% elite/monstrosity from punching above, maybe 15% from toxin mania?

[untold garden]

gotta refine my dodge game, can't facetank with toughness anymore

[cursive mica]

I like putting one shot into the heads of like 4 gunners and being gone before they die

[shy scroll]

if im doing this should i use the the cleaver as weapon or the knife for the throwing bit?

[dim moth]

the fuckin' chem toxin shit is so goddamn fun man

with lacerate shivs

[silver mural]

Sometimes im having a god game taking no damage and then a crusher shows me how silly and dumb i am

[drowsy relic]

Either or I've used them both

However you will want the +cleave perk for cleaver since it has bad cleave

I prefer rampage shivs with hyper violence

[shrewd spoke]

Ego crusher

[cursive mica]

I got killed by a crusher side

[untold garden]

https://tenor.com/view/impressive-based-american-psycho-gif-24694654

[cursive mica]

Not even the overhead

I was tweaking out

[shy scroll]

i see i see thanks

[vale garden]

ughhh

[dim moth]

is called cleaver

[vale garden]

fix the psykanium FS

[dim moth]

cleave is bad

[tribal bane]

it is a saw, not a cleaver

[cursive mica]

But its called cleaver innit

[main trellis]

Saw cleaver

[tribal bane]

it's literally caled a bone saw

[main trellis]

I miss bloodborne

[shy scroll]

hows the dual pistol btw i havent seen anyone use it

[tribal bane]

it's just cleaver shaped

[silver mural]

Tbf if it innately had great cleave its dot application would prolly be too strong into mixed hordes

[vale garden]

ffs I have to quit the whole game to get the psyk to update (hopefully)

[main trellis]

You’re cleaver shaped; all bend backwards & shit

[silver mural]

Havjng to build for it is fair

[main trellis]

[tribal bane]

you wanna bend me over?

[zenith pagoda]

French 😨

[drowsy relic]

What's next in this woke world

[main trellis]

You already did it for me

[near vapor]

bonesaw's kinda my fav rn

[tribal bane]

same here

helps great with crushers

[grave venture]

Are chem toxins any of them or a particular one?

[vale garden]

Ahhh even restarting hasnt updated my special lol

[main trellis]

What about freemans weapon?

[random shuttle]

Not French

Revacholian

[vale garden]

hmmm

[silver mural]

Wdym

[random shuttle]

smh uncultured smh

[grave venture]

Like from the bonesaw, needle gun, and the chem nades

Do all of those count as chem toxins

[zenith pagoda]

Yes but the bone saw has a different type

[compact oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/ah-jolly-cat-jolly-cat-merry-christmas-gif-9272976883674260918

[silver mural]

Yes, unless in purple mode for saw

[tribal bane]

all chem tox perks effects anything that stacks chemtox

[silver mural]

Purple lean mode is the only one that doesnt apply it

[grave venture]

So generally speaking the yellow ones are chem tox to the perks

[dire badge]

what is viscosity?

[silver mural]

Purple is brittle

[amber sundial]

% of talent points spent on your stim

[tribal bane]

thickness of a liquid

[silver mural]

It applies brittle and innately has a bonus damage modifier to armoured enemies

[dire badge]

ah okay

[vale garden]

wait

wjat

[zenith pagoda]

The animation can't be cancelled though

[vale garden]

This doesnt work on blinders?

[tribal bane]

imagin injecting yourself with a drug as thick as molassas

[split lagoon]

Leveling this class through heresy makes you feel miserable

[fast prawn]

stim animation takes so long

[amber sundial]

You have a talent point that’s impossible to reach with rampage that you had selected with desperado

[fast prawn]

might as well grab a coffee

[silver mural]

Yeah if the enemies turns a little greenish yellow you are 100 percent activating any tox chem nodes and they are taking damage.

[tribal bane]

💀

[rustic lava]

My lag is insane lately

[zenith pagoda]

It should do...

[vale garden]

Ah I think that might have been the issue

[tribal bane]

brother needs a god damn subway surfer's run on the side

[silver mural]

I love this node so much. My flashbangs clear the horde while stunning the crusher inside it

[vale garden]

Yeah there we go

[zenith pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/dou-dou-oye-cat-ears-chinese-cat-gif-6711857028275508414

[winter tusk]

[near vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/squid-game-oh-my-god-bruh-saleswoman-oh-my-god-bruh-gif-2398788864743270124

[zenith pagoda]

I don't like being forced to take moving target

[bleak turret]

obviously

[stiff trench]

My hive scumming has been limited because I can’t get my mods to work

I need that true level back

[tribal bane]

shoulda named him malakai

[gusty grotto]

Does using Boom Bringer count as a ranged attack?

[plain tide]

And Shiv's have too many Points for their mastery

master 20 has 2 too many points

[dire badge]

purple is brital drug right

[amber sundial]

Iirc off kulis guide it does

[rustic lava]

Usually 200 ping is decent but today I just don't sync

[bleak turret]

damn, that would have been good

[stiff trench]

Yes

[rapid mango]

?

[dire badge]

ty

[zenith pagoda]

Idk what they were thinking with this. Psyker has +1 dodge for everything and dodge duration

[amber sundial]

We have dodge duration and distance for everything

[zenith pagoda]

I mean the talents

[lament arch]

for those of you using mods, some mod is making the game spam all my blackout grenades everytime i use it. Anyone which mod could cause this?

[deep torrent]

no class is equal

[amber sundial]

Yea, it’s a talent like 3 rows lower

[obsidian crown]

Guaranteed weapon swap

[rapid mango]

guarenteed weapon swap

[zenith pagoda]

Moving target is shit though

[rapid mango]

fix: weaponswap after one throw because turning it off is a nightmare to be without

[zenith pagoda]

And it's either that or threat talent (which I don't need)

[lament arch]

thx man

[obsidian crown]

Fix: use boomstick or chem nades

[rapid mango]

but, pocket toxin

i do see my friend using the pocket rocket tho it looks fun but, not my playstyle

the character dropping the used up launcher is also a nice touch

[grave venture]

So many errors

[toxic dagger]

no messages for 3 minutes? wtf dead class

[patent bone]

Nah still alive

[gusty grotto]

Im reading the talents rn and isn't this class extremely good with the bolt pistol?

Bolt pistol + ammo regen = good, right?

[patent bone]

Also I need to speak to someone from Fatshark

[livid raven]

not really

[zenith pagoda]

Anything with ammo regen is good lol

Bolt pistol is one of the guns that doesn't really need it

[vernal sluice]

Hank I just won karnak twins hard mode with pubs for the first time ever and with hivescum

this class is peak...

[livid raven]

imo bolt pistol doesn't really fit

[zenith pagoda]

Lethal prox

[gusty grotto]

close range damage

[gusty grotto]

yeah + this

[patent bone]

This class (when played right) is amazing

[livid raven]

it's not even the best gun for close range

[zenith pagoda]

when played right

[patent bone]

WHEN PLAYED RIGHT

[gusty grotto]

doesnt matter when its the bolter

[patent bone]

Seen too many mfers thinking they can tank in this class

[iron patrol]

they released like, the highest skill ceiling lowest skill floor class ever

[livid raven]

you can tank in this class

[frigid marten]

WHEN PLAYED RIGHT

[covert hazel]

Really makes me realize how nice it is to have a lasgun vet smoking all the ranged elites.

[patent bone]

They didn't pop desperado or rampage

[plucky girder]

Reading the reviews and alot of people are saying this class is actually just really weak? like outright bad? i find that hard 2 believe? is it even somewhat true or is this just pure soyboy rage

[livid raven]

point and laugh at the stimm supply scum

[random shuttle]

Damn, Rashad+Revolver melee Scum is a monster

so much murder

[tribal bane]

it's definitly not the lowest skill floor

[iron patrol]

you CAN its just really dependant on how deep you got into it, adrenaline gives you 5% t/s the melee hits give you toughness and you can swing really fast, you get something like 40% total resistance

[silver mural]

All classes can tank, but some need to take little breathers on all 4s afterwards

[livid raven]

fortunately, hivescum can do it for a long period of time

[zenith pagoda]

It's not weak it's just not as cracked as arby on release

[silver mural]

You can also survive the rest of your life without food

[random shuttle]

Meamwhile, Oggy: "Tank? you mean like taking 3 overheads from Maulers and saying its a scratch?"

[iron patrol]

oh scum can sustain that shit as long as theres enemies to hit

[plucky girder]

omfg nevermind these animals are reviewing based on pre level 30 performance? ARE WE REAL MAN

U DONT EVEN HAVE UR TALENTS AND UR CALLING IT BAD KILL ME

[wise sorrel]

Average steam user review

[zenith pagoda]

The class has some of the most unique weapons lol

[livid raven]

oh i forgot to leave a negative review

[zenith pagoda]

Throwing knives built into a melee weapon

[patent bone]

Oh nevermind then.

[stiff trench]

https://tenor.com/view/prowler-into-the-spider-verse-stare-spider-man-spider-man-into-the-spider-verse-gif-27353232

[tribal bane]

it's not easy to tank as hive scum, you can still be a monster if you spec it right

[iron patrol]

this is the one character where running 3 stamina curios for the 9 extra stamina can actually be justified

[near vapor]

needs it if youre dual wielding cuz only 2 dodges

[livid raven]

just for the extra attack speed?

[patent bone]

"I love this class and it's quirks, weapons, and the use of drugs"
It's a negative review

[iron patrol]

you are damn right

faster you swing the more toughness you get

[patent bone]

So far I am the gunzerker

[grand jewel]

I hate this class its dogshit - Positive review

[tribal bane]

same

[flat mist]

Plus 86% attack speed go BRRRRRRRR

[livid raven]

ok but listen here

[grave venture]

https://tenor.com/view/frank-reynolds-danny-devito-oh-my-god-i-get-it-its-always-sunny-in-philadelphia-gif-1719969854406009304

[warped grove]

"not an admech"

negative review

[livid raven]

also get the stamina perk on the weapon

[zenith pagoda]

Fatshark will buff this class BC of everyone

[patent bone]

See a big group, pop desperado, and just jump right in

[stiff trench]

Desperado, twin shredders, and the right blessings, I’ve found it very hard to die because you’re constantly ramping up damage and toughness

[grave venture]

I get it now

[tribal bane]

I was going to go melee, but the dual stubs are just way too fun to shoot

[flat mist]

Der

Go hard or go home

[patent bone]

"Not AdMech"
Positive review

[flat mist]

Based

[iron patrol]

i AM the lawnmover ricky

[grave venture]

Especially on the desperado pickpocket build

[stiff trench]

The only times I go down at this point are poor positioning and also bad timing of my ability

[grand jewel]

I like that they mention Skitarii in the new mission lol

hadron complains that the inquisitor refuses to requisition Skitarii

[toxic dagger]

#🎒support-issues

[dim moth]

this feels so weird willingly choosing stamina because it's +4% attack speed on this guy

[covert hazel]

The more I use it the more I realize how bad the infantry autogun really is

[stiff trench]

I heard that and love that

[livid raven]

why

[patent bone]

Thanks

[near vapor]

I put reload speed on my autopistol

[dim moth]

and the weapon having uncanny but just not needing it because chem toxin

[near vapor]

Im SPEEDMAXXING

[iron patrol]

i actually had to get a autoclicker macro cause i physically cant spam m1 hard enough to benefit from the 110% extra attack speed

[grave venture]

DMC2maxxing with Desperado Stubs

[livid raven]

bro just get skitarii

[grand jewel]

yea could instead just crit max and apply toxin with crits lol

[patent bone]

What would "Please change armband color on Tread Lightlies gold top from purple to blue" fall under?

[iron patrol]

get the 5% crit chance too, you can bleed carapace faster than you can kill it with blunt knife trauma

[grave venture]

The needle gun is also super fun

[flat mist]

No

You have enough crit

[dim moth]

that is a good point actuall

[flat mist]

Get a damage multiplier for the dot

[vernal sluice]

I prefer the melee damage aura

[flat mist]

No it's not a good point lol

[silver mural]

Its definitely possible to reach decent durability with a very specific build. You just won't reach the highs other classes can get too according to playtesters.

But hey, im not a good player im just going off what good players tell me

[vernal sluice]

I'm doing the crit aura just for the penance

[shy scroll]

if i go chem toxic build should i use the stim ability?

[grave venture]

Single target with fent tipped needles, or crowd clear with nitroglocerin tipped needles

[flat mist]

The dott is affected by the goddamn damage perk

[warped grove]

I know lmao

[dim moth]

damage multiplier for the dot (another dot stack)

[gusty grotto]

am I right to think this

[dim moth]

yeah I know it is but

[flat mist]

You won't get another dot stack on average

[grave venture]

No reason not to

[toxic dagger]

uhhhhh sounds like it could be a bug report

[dim moth]

do you know how the hive works

[grave venture]

But the blind nades are going to do you better

[toxic dagger]

purple is obv water cartel colours so that sounds like it's wrong

[patent bone]

Thanks

[covert hazel]

Doesn't hit hard enough to tap heads, doesn't fire fast enough to chew elites, has too much recoil to do bursts... Just kind of a generalist on the mediocre end of the spectrum.

[gusty grotto]

no I just searched borderlands corrosive rocket launcher 😂

never used it

[dim moth]

so hive doesn't actually shoot rockets

[iron patrol]

nah use the pocket sand

[dim moth]

it fires little pods that will automaitcally fire seeking rockets at enemies

[compact oyster]

Cant even do the no mans land on heresy ugh

[dim moth]

like a hive of bees :)

[grave venture]

https://tenor.com/view/scout-gif-25786536

[grand jewel]

I like the new map but getting it 95% of the time is getting old already lol

[lavish parrot]

No man's land mission was cool I liked the part where they send us on actual active battlefield

[toxic dagger]

just pick your mission

[grave venture]

Especially when you bring desperado stubs

[livid raven]

the actual active battlefield where there is no ally soldier apparently

[grand jewel]

and then get no humans

dead region ™

[toxic dagger]

oh rip

[obsidian crown]

Quick play is faster exp

[grave venture]

You're a storm trooper, that's how I'd imagine it works

[toxic dagger]

my EU lobbies always fill up eventually. might take a few mins

[iron patrol]

i hate the new map for the scum specifically cause scum is the one fucking class that actually dodges often enough to get stuck on each and every jutting metal scrap off the ground

[lavish parrot]

Yeah we're a strike team

[near vapor]

just switch servers

[twilit canyon]

Guys, I cant stop scumming

[livid raven]

storm troopers aren't deployes in a 4 men teams against literal hordes

[near vapor]

200 ping DT is playable

[grand jewel]

my AU lobbies are either filled at lobby or you get nobody

lol

[iron patrol]

we do have a leman russ tank following us

[grand jewel]

hm true

[grave venture]

https://tenor.com/view/im-here-to-tell-you-im-entering-the-world-of-scum-danny-trejo-epik-im-going-into-the-realm-of-scum-gif-26370771

[livid raven]

who's biggest accomplishment is destroying two walls

[zenith pagoda]

This is the only class I have on shortest height

[tribal bane]

https://tenor.com/view/snl-eddie-murphy-scum-insult-gif-10700941596716293549

[livid raven]

it would be nice to have some allied npcs in some sections

[dim moth]

needle pistol carapace damage is wild

4 shots to kill a crusher

[twilit canyon]

All my 6 characters are max height

[grave venture]

Me when I shoot fent at the crusher

[silver mural]

It should be 3 shots

[twilit canyon]

I want the heretics to see me coming, they should fear me

[iron patrol]

thats what we see, for all we know its mowing down like a crusher horde that woulda came at us above the trench line

[random shuttle]

heh

[dim moth]

also I'm assuming the needle pistol applies more toxin stacks on crit

[random shuttle]

Just did Hard Mode Damnation Twins on my Melee Scum and lost /0/ hp 😄

[dim moth]

well yeah if you'd ever lost health you'd have just straight up died

[random shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/its-coming-back-to-me-now-i-remember-i-think-i-know-heyward-e-roger-mitchell-gif-17264525

[young oar]

Peaky Blinders...

[grand jewel]

1 more stack yeah

[grave venture]

There is no crit

[twilit canyon]

Needle pistol cant crit?

[random shuttle]

Rashad on this build is crazy.

Need to try the OG Combat Knife

[dim moth]

oh yeah so it does

[iron patrol]

the open section with bomb craters on hive scum for the new map makes me wanna eat my shivs vertically

[grave venture]

No it can I'm pretty sure

[echo python]

Needle Pistol can crit, it applies some extra stacks too

[dim moth]

167 to 223 is pretty sweet damage boost

[echo python]

It has crit chance blessings I'm pretty sure

[grand jewel]

its great with desperado

[silver mural]

Yeah bonus for weakspot and bonus for crits

[grave venture]

Oh so what's the difference between the marks?

[obsidian crown]

You just said it doesn’t 💀

[lavish parrot]

Hivescum no man's land golf

A dodge to the side nets you a hole in one

[grave venture]

I lied

[dim moth]

oh I did not know headshots gave more stacks

[iron patrol]

its not the shooters, its the fucking geometry

[silver mural]

The saw also does more stacks on crit afaik even before the node that adds stacks to crits

[echo python]

Applies extra chem tox stacks on crits and extra on weakspot hits

[grand jewel]

one has AoE spread other is an AoE explosion

[dim moth]

good to know

[grave venture]

The blue mode spreads on the other? Is that better at all?

What am I saying of course it is

[grand jewel]

lol

[grave venture]

The chem damage is ridiculous

It's so good

[patent bone]

And now I play the waiting game

[silver mural]

Depends on the mark. One does aoe tox chem one does aoe staggers both are on death.

You can also shoot the ground to aoe stack with the special action

Idk if id reccomend shooting the ground tho

[hazy vector]

if only dumb teammates did not kill your targets

[livid raven]

you should go for the aoe chem

[grave venture]

All I'm hearing is one triggers the pox walker's pocket fent to shoot out of their pockets

[dim moth]

needle pistol one shots mutants on headshot xd

crazy gun

[grave venture]

"YO IDIOT, CATCH"

[twilit canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/scout-gif-25786536

[near vapor]

ngl I dont even switch modes

[grave venture]

https://tenor.com/view/mutant-darktide-warhammer-40k-abuse-gif-17199671288688860755

[turbid fulcrum]

What's your setup`?

[lavish parrot]

Am I crazy or the shiv throws are very very good vs bosses

[dim moth]

fuck you mean "what's your setup" it's needle pistol what can I set up on it

[livid raven]

you are crazy

[lavish parrot]

Seems like fent is kicking in

[near vapor]

the chems

[thorny ginkgo]

is combat axe rashad good for a rampage frenzy build compared to crowbar or even better? im doing way more damage with it

[obsidian crown]

Idk but sounds like you answered your own question? 💀

[dim moth]

needle pistol dump stat=all of them

[thorny ginkgo]

lmaooo just making sure

[dim moth]

none of them do anything

chem toxin stronk

[obsidian crown]

I’ve seen you ask some hella dumb questions ngl 💀

[iron patrol]

found the guy supplying the imperium for its skull decorations

[lament arch]

is the weapon swap mod also the reason why my character automatically use a stimm?

[obsidian crown]

[livid raven]

yes

disable it for now

[thorny ginkgo]

it's almost like this is a discord for the class

[hazy vector]

well may be stability helps to not miss?

[random shuttle]

Needlegun stats are all a joke 😄

[livid raven]

it has pinpoint accuracy tho

[random shuttle]

AMMO is the only one that /does/ anything

[iron patrol]

god i left off yesterday at level 15

gotta get this needle pistol

[hazy vector]

damn

then i need may be to remake my needle, to not hav e moblity as dump

[dim moth]

dump ammo got it

[warped quiver]

why is reddit crying about the class being garbage

"all glass no cannon"

[grave venture]

So if I am to understand how needle pistols actually work, they shoot a concentrated laser to pierce armor, then shoot some crystalline dust coated in a virus through that hole

[turbid fulcrum]

Well yes I'd like a bit more detail if possible

[warped quiver]

chat is this a skill issue

[hazy vector]

because only mentally challenged people post and comment on reddit?

[warped quiver]

confirmed it's a skill issue

[hazy vector]

i think it is just crystallised poison, that's it?

[grave venture]

Idk I didn't research it much

[turbid fulcrum]

Han Solo-ass looking thing

[near vapor]

yea

[thorny ginkgo]

ty

[near vapor]

id put heavy sword there too

[thorny ginkgo]

never used the axe

[vast leaf]

okay now that i am not trying play heresy with level 100 weapons im starting to see the vision

[rose stirrup]

Is pocket blitz bugged for boom bringer?

[hardy glacier]

close range means ranged close ranged or even melee counts?

[vast leaf]

its kinda how it feels like leveling lol

compared to arbites which was way too easy

[near vapor]

• Restores 1 grenade after killing 20 enemies who are within 12.5m to Hive Scum with any attack (excluding DoT kills)

[livid raven]

which unfortunately means it's kinda dogwater with the bonesaw

[wise sorrel]

Wait it doesn't apply on DoT kills?
Build ruined

[random shuttle]

When game says Close Range it's 12.5m
When game says Melee Range, it's 8m

[near vapor]

[random shuttle]

When game says Ungabunga Labubu Shmeckle, it's 4,56m

[warped quiver]

yeah but I take that experience with a grain of salt, I know everything feels wank until you actually get closer to a complete build

except arb's OP ass

[willow vine]

The combat knife moveset feels so much cleaner than the shivs

[random shuttle]

I am level 27 on Scum now and it feels amazing

[near vapor]

takes abit to get used to the shiv moveset

[random shuttle]

cleared some rougher content with ease, style and gusto

[vernal sluice]

Lvl 28, same

Huge fan of the middle tree

[vast leaf]

Level 20 and same

[warped quiver]

can opener crowbar demolishes crushers so I'm looking forward to getting more points into that

[random shuttle]

But yes It's hard to not admit that Scummy is a solid bit harder to squeeze Might out of when compared to the Monster Wall Brick Man that is Arbites 😄

[vernal sluice]

No shit lmao

It's an actual glass cannon

[random shuttle]

For me Crowbar makes me upset a little.

Because it shows how SHITTY the folded shovels mode-change is

Crowbar mode shift is so buttery smooth.

[glad latch]

Yeah, Hive Scum feels like dog shit to play until you get to around level 20 and that's when it starts getting your build fleshed out and synergies going.

Psyker suffers the same issue, the other classes it doesn't seem as harsh on when they low level.

[rain sedge]

What are you doing? Im running Aurics and the class is showing its real rough edges. Like trying to play psyker but no cool pay offs of using magic

[patent bone]

Gunzerker mode

[vast leaf]

It feels like chain axe the way it gets stuck in people

[vernal sluice]

I don't rly agree, scum was awesome for me to play since lvl 1, uniquely for a darktide class

[patent bone]

Using Coles build

[random shuttle]

Various stuff. Either going full Chemtox with supply bomb. Or going full melee nut with Rashad+Revolver. Or going Dual Uzis with Despasito.

[patent bone]

Play Hive Scum while playing Despacito 2 in the bachground

[zenith pagoda]

Where are twins mission in terminal?

It's not under special assignment

[random shuttle]

Its there middle of Battle of Tertium

[glad latch]

guys, if you want massive recoil get a double barrel and fire both barrels and immediately use desperado and fire both barrels again, your view will go into the ceiling lol.

[zenith pagoda]

?

[rustic lava]

The stub pistols feel like they should get some armour pen as they feel a bit slow to be sucky against armoured enemies

[random shuttle]

I am repeting myself but for everyone having a hard time with Scummy: as fun as new toys are remember he has access to some old classics, too - Give Scummy Rashad/HSword/Combat Shotgun/Bistol, and rip and tear 😄

[echo python]

Scroll right

[thorny ginkgo]

rashad is great

[zenith pagoda]

Oh lmao

[random shuttle]

Rashad, melee build + Bromentum + Hyper-Violence

https://tenor.com/view/todo-clap-jujutsu-kaisen-todo-gif-20911000

[thorny ginkgo]

that’s what i’m running rn

[glad latch]

Using this on a desperado build is wild, it just mulches waves of trash and elites like nothing. Only the crushers are an issue.

[random shuttle]

Add attack speed stim maxed out

go to town

[thorny ginkgo]

what about strength instead?

[quartz plume]

Should I run worse stim for lower cooldown when I play chemical dependency or does it not matter?

[random shuttle]

Sure go for it. I prefer Attack Speed by far

[spare glen]

you don’t need both barrels or scatter shot just use man stopper and death spitter

[rustic lava]

The new hivescum weapons need more marks

[livid raven]

ok left the review

i should do this more often

[tired prairie]

I… wouldn’t expect them to get any new marks, ever

[compact oyster]

something people might find very juicy to see as a teaser

[glad latch]

Both barrels and scattershot are great.

[spare glen]

like i said you really don’t need them

[lusty moss]

I LOVE I LOVE I LOVE METH RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[dire badge]

me too but I cant express it in my name 😭 FentChoppa was censored by fatshark 😔

[rotund orchid]

what would you all consider to be the best blessings for the crowbar ?

[lusty moss]

LMFAO

[dire badge]

now im StimChoppa

[rain snow]

i just saw a GordonFentman in my team

[livid raven]

crowbar migth just have the lamest blessings

[grand jewel]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/704285813860728885/1156371759260504075/attachment-18.gif

[patent bone]

Good morning

[rotund orchid]

yeah they feel pretty underwhelming so far

[glad latch]

idk about best, but I am using can opener and superiority. They seem to do pretty well.

[random shuttle]

I am using Can Opener + Opportunist

Since Heavy Mode staggers anything

Opportunist always on 😄

Over the top Rending? Maybe... maybe...

[grand jewel]

its 25% bucko

could just have 37.5% strength

[glad latch]

Oh true. I think that's what this node is for as well tbh.

[dapper prairie]

i am in love with the cleaver

i'm done

there is no weapon as good as this

[random shuttle]

Love me Boneappletea Saw

[dapper prairie]

chunky latch

spread yellow

[random shuttle]

The ONLY new weapon I am not loving (but I do like!) is the Dual Glocks

Kinda least wacky of the bunch

[silent jetty]

Ive done the max stacks in private and a public Auric mission and still have 0 progress on it....

[glad latch]

Is very average, but multi-purpose weapon.

[silent jetty]

does anyone know what im doing wrong

[grand jewel]

you need to lose the stacks to gain progress

allegedly

[silent jetty]

ah hell nah

[random shuttle]

Oh yeah I know what they can do

[silent jetty]

why is it worded so badly tho

[random shuttle]

I am purely talking Fun Factor

[grand jewel]

no its bugged

[random shuttle]

Other Scummy weapons are wacky

[grand jewel]

its not supposed to be how it is

[random shuttle]

Double Glock is just... two pisstols.

[glad latch]

Yeah, they are fun, but not micro-uzi levels of fun.

[random shuttle]

Yeah

Or Crowby

or Goo-blade

or two pieces of sharp metal wrapped in belt leather

Or Covid Gun

[grand jewel]

Covid gun lmao

[hazy vector]

i, in fact, prefer glocks over uzi

[signal nebula]

Glocks are the best thing about this class for me, design wise

They feel really unique and snappy

[silent jetty]

ill try that one now, thanks.

[grand jewel]

gonna call my guy TheVaccinator

[north meteor]

I like the shivs mostly

[hazy vector]

feels like playing killing floor 2, except stuff actually dies

[signal nebula]

Shivs and Glocks for sure