hivescum-class

[near mauve]

u need fundementals

zealot condition to play this

[nova tangle]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-drugs-drug-snow-animal-gif-10335506710319479131

[near mauve]

cause zealot is the same u gotta dodge perfectly

[stuck bobcat]

The crowbar really needs thrust
The blessings are pretty bad imo

[random shuttle]

as a OGG main supreme par excellence

it's always a GIANT adjustment to play Humble Mortals

[silk flint]

Jim stimms

[nova tangle]

No fundamentals only bonk

[vale garden]

Ooh

StimminyCricket would be a good name

[near mauve]

yeah ive been playing nothing but ogryn lately and holyshit going from slow tank to speedy paper tissue took me some time

[ruby kelp]

Im doing fine on not dying bc i main zealot lol, it was funny being caught off guard how much it reminded me of zealot in that case just need to get the groove down

[random shuttle]

Me on Ogryn: "Haha Rager, what a funny fella slap sit down lad"
Me on Scummer: "Oh shit this Ragertook half my HP with one swing... fuck me"

[unkempt salmon]

^^^

I'm really liking it so far. I get diddled if I make mistakes, but when I keep my cool I start absolutely gaming

[outer estuary]

For the penances where it’s like use chems to get 1000% strength or whatever, is that something that can been done over several games and you don’t need to have all chem points into strength or is it something that has to be done in a single match?

[near mauve]

its the exact same gameplay loop as zealot if u play melee scum

except you're not as tanky

so gotta be extra careful

[abstract lichen]

No until death

[ruby kelp]

I main thammer and relic blade so melee defo an adjustment for getting the groove of the weapons

[hallow osprey]

Low level scum fucking sucks ass

[abstract lichen]

Also toughness Regen is kinda rough

[stark stone]

Infinite ammo?

[silk flint]

Name's Jim.
Jim Stimms.
Jimmy Stimms to my friends.

[vale garden]

Scumrevenant when

[high gull]

pickpocket

[ruby kelp]

I havent used anything like the shivs in forever 😂

[near mauve]

also yeah low level scum might be the worst leveling experience out of all

[stark stone]

Ooh

[vale garden]

https://tenor.com/view/mgs2-solid-snake-metal-gear-solid2-metal-gear-solid-mgs-gif-27578347

[near mauve]

all the good shit is down lmao

[stark stone]

Now that's good

[abstract lichen]

I think low level psyker is much more ass

[broken bear]

shiv blessing that r decent?

[unkempt salmon]

I won't be able to sleep until they add a cowboy hat

[candid flare]

YES

[near mauve]

u can just spam assail bro

[ruby kelp]

I thought a bleed shiv setup would be funny when le eled

[frosty urchin]

same as the combat blade probably

[vale garden]

Also shooty F doesnt consume ammo on reload while active

[abstract lichen]

You need to get assail first

[high gull]

I'd say you start feeling the power of ganger around lvl20

[near mauve]

i got uncanny plus fleshtearer and its working while leveling up on hersey

[broken bear]

we are acting as if i know this

[unkempt salmon]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-cad-bane-im-your-worst-nightmare-pal-i-am-your-worst-nightmare-your-worst-nightmare-gif-24760316

[abstract lichen]

Shivs also give extra crit, I get like 22.5 base crit at level 1

[frosty urchin]

Rending on weakspot hit, bleed on crit, weakspot damage on bleeding enemies

[near mauve]

shivs crit like crazy

[vale garden]

I wonder if a bleed+chem build could actually be viable

MORE DOTS MOR3 DOTS MORE DOTS

[frosty urchin]

real

[abstract lichen]

Rotten armor

[ruby kelp]

Shivs feel like ass when you first try the class out

[random shuttle]

next idea is to get brauto, Desperados, and see how that feels

[frosty urchin]

add a little bit of rending from stims and we could be cooking

[abstract lichen]

Does scum get cleave on ranged attacks in any talent

[elder needle]

no

[abstract lichen]

[vale garden]

Well

Kinda

The rocket launcher cleaves lol

[silk flint]

Hello my fellow Hive cum's

[unkempt salmon]

I'm currently running Devil's Claw until I have a Eureka moment with the other melee options

[broken bear]

see i just like hivescum cuz purple hair

[elder needle]

also reapers/shotgunners and gunners will be your worst nightmare

unless desperado

[abstract lichen]

Stuff that can buff Agri brauto cleave

[brisk halo]

Fent perk

[vale garden]

KHole perk

[obtuse tangle]

Dot gun kills reapers fairly quick without buffing chem dmg. I like the idea of a dot build.

And crushers*

[abstract lichen]

Toxin is surprisingly good vs carapace

[vale garden]

Man

Maybe i should just rename to IScumBlood

Feels snappier

[random shuttle]

I am playing a full DoT Build: Bonesaw + Needler + Supply Bomb

and it's very fun

[obtuse tangle]

I just can't make my self like the bone saw. The attack pattern feels so awkward

[vale garden]

I am really curious to see if the chem nade is better than blind nade with the chem blitz perk

[novel quest]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-more-gif-21856591

[obtuse tangle]

It's like the swing is slow but like half way thru. Idk

[bronze drift]

in the hived city, straight up scumming it, and by it, heh, well, lets justr say, my ganger

[abstract lichen]

Does the other shiv mark have cleave heavies

Haven't tried it yet

[obtuse tangle]

Yes

[abstract lichen]

Cool

[random shuttle]

Really? it's pretty basic L>H for horde, H>L for solo, ye olde regular set

[obtuse tangle]

Yeah it's not the pattern. It's like.

The animation feels belabored.

[thorn prawn]

The double hit on Heavy1?

[obtuse tangle]

Idk how to day it.

[latent belfry]

It doesn't have a lot of cleave

[obtuse tangle]

Say*

It just feels weird to me.

Idk.

[thorn prawn]

Heavy 1 can feel weird until you get used to it

[latent belfry]

So you probably think it should be more effective than it actually is into hordes

Currently experiencing a similar issue w crowbar

[frosty urchin]

Ive noticed that heavy gunners are basically the bane of this class's existence if your ability is on cooldown

[latent belfry]

I'm almost 100% sure it doesn't matter what attack you use in blunt mode it seems to have massive cleave

I just don't understand how the moveset flows perfectly

[random shuttle]

Bonesaw dot is offset by it having horrible base cleave

[latent belfry]

I feel like I might be missing smth but idk

[random shuttle]

but you can fix that with taletns/blessings

[thorn prawn]

That's why I went with a needle gun with the ranged immunity blessing

[obtuse tangle]

Maybe. Idk. I used it a bit. Just couldn't get into it.

I'm only like 22 or so.

I think chem bombs, bleed daggers, and dot gun could work tho.

Decent all-round.

[lavish parrot]

Man you guys weren't lying I am as squishy as psyker

[silk flint]

So far truly feels like a crackhead high on fent

[lavish parrot]

But without psyker stuff

[patent bone]

So what does Vultures Mark do?

[lavish parrot]

But it's not as bad as some people exaggerated

[thorn prawn]

I've been using push attack into heavy for horde clear

[thorn prawn]

What do you mean? Like other than what the description says?

[cedar cairn]

Are yall enjoying the shivs so far

[frosty urchin]

couldnt you go with that autopistol and that one talent that makes you immune on crit?

[maiden heart]

i like shivs the most at this point

[north meteor]

yes

[thorn prawn]

You'll have to stack some crits to comfortably do that

[pale rain]

What is Viscosity in the Stim lab screen?

[mystic hornet]

I used them the most until bone saw

[cedar cairn]

I can't seem to make them work for me

[mystic hornet]

Making a whole poison build

[fiery palm]

a reflection of how long your cooldown is

[cedar cairn]

Ah I've just been running them with the autopistols for a gunslinger build

[fiery palm]

more viscosity=longer cooldown, it could just say cooldown honestly the viscosity thing is redundant/fluff

[rose flax]

Today I learned, hay maker does not consume or reset stacks when insta kill triggers

[pale rain]

Thanks.

[abstract lichen]

How's the crowbar

Coghammer clone

[pale rain]

Florida-Man ready in Auric. Lets go

[lavish parrot]

Water cartel too high five

[sacred trellis]

What’s dump stat on shivs

[lavish parrot]

Mobility, the usual suspect

[fiery palm]

i'll give you 3 guesses

[sacred trellis]

Ty

[lavish parrot]

Oh oh oh it's damage innit

[abstract lichen]

Does the default shiv have a "horde clear" combo

Light spam

[lavish parrot]

light spam with occasional PA I assume

It's so straight forward

[elder needle]

like d/d on v2

[abstract lichen]

Is light 1 > block cancel real

[elder needle]

at least mk1

[abstract lichen]

Fake

[lavish parrot]

yeah basically vt2 dd

[abstract lichen]

True

[lavish parrot]

iirc the heavies are nearly the exact same

[abstract lichen]

Will they ever give us sword&dagger

[rose flax]

Except, there's a weird delay between light 1 and 2, which is how you would do in vermitide, then block and push, or just block

[abstract lichen]

I guess that's the other mark

[rose flax]

attack speed doesn''t change it either

[sacred trellis]

dump stat on auto pistols ?

[thorn prawn]

power maul and power sword combo would be nice

[rose flax]

sword and pistol

[abstract lichen]

Give me crusher combos

[lavish parrot]

I'll give you two guesses

[thorn prawn]

49% ammo

[sacred trellis]

Same thing ? Is mobility bad ??

[lavish parrot]

Mobility and Collat

rejoice
that's two dump stats

[near mauve]

why did no one name themselves StimmedHams yet

https://tenor.com/view/steamed-hams-the-simpsons-served-butler-gif-10813592

[abstract lichen]

Aurora borealis?

[near mauve]

ill do it

rip CrankShaftMcHoggin

[lavish parrot]

because I decided to call myself fenton steele before hive scum even came out

[rose flax]

The shivs are much better than dual daggers in vermintide though still, because chaos enemies in vermintide felt like hitting a brick wall, this game, the melee system is so good, even a 1 handed axe feels good

[abstract lichen]

Also am I reading it wrong

Is shivs uncanny really 5% per stack

[near mauve]

yeah shivs have a nerfed uncanny

[hearty thicket]

only real ones know

[near mauve]

hopefully the rest get the nerf

[abstract lichen]

Why

[tender marten]

wish i didnt

[abstract lichen]

Yea they might as well nerf the rest

[near mauve]

prolly testing how a balanced uncanny functions

uncanny is one of the most broken talents

[abstract lichen]

Goes into the bin

[tender marten]

calling him a true survivor is some kind of irony tho

[abstract lichen]

Crit stacking

[elder needle]

play backstab shade

with rending on backstab

[zealous basin]

what are some good talents for saw as a backup weapon for desperado

blessings*

[lavish parrot]

You know what's funny?

[thorn prawn]

I went with the crit one and the cleave one

[lavish parrot]

Hive scum being as squishy as psyker will show who actually played psyker

[ruby path]

This class is uber squishy lol

[lavish parrot]

Because holy shit everyone I meet dies

IT'S NOT THAT BAD COME ON

[thorn prawn]

My whole team dropped like flies whenever there is a horde of gunners

[near mauve]

simply dont get hit

[lavish parrot]

A true psyker game tip

[near mauve]

tbh its fun

and builds good habits

u should be trying to get hit very little anyway

[crude robin]

the bone saw feels so weird to use

[lavish parrot]

No I fw squishy class

Gotta get used to not having instant 200+50 toughness for free every 30 secs

[grave venture]

Encourages being good at games

[lavish parrot]

(scary)

[glacial gyro]

I could not figure out why boom bringer felt so clunky but after trying it in the meat grinder it has a delay before firing

thats probably why I keep missing with it too

[crude robin]

it just seems too slow for a cleaver

[obsidian crown]

Rampage hive scum seems tanky ngl

[lavish parrot]

Still no 60% mobility shivs 💔

[abstract lichen]

I bought like 50 shivs

Not a single 60%

I feel like this is rigged

[grave venture]

Just saying, but the 3DS is the pinnacle of actually portable handhelds

[lavish parrot]

LOWEST I GOT IS 62%

[glacial gyro]

If I'm not mistaken you're supposed to use it to apply poison and then back off

[abstract lichen]

I settled for a 63%

I'm so done

[lavish parrot]

I spent 250k dockets on level 0 shivs

[grave venture]

Your weapon is weak and useless!!!

[lavish parrot]

NO 60%

[abstract lichen]

Unviable

[near mauve]

did u buy before level 30 per chance

u buy before 30 = awful odds

[abstract lichen]

Yes but

[grave venture]

Why would you every buy after hitting level 30

[knotty grotto]

did psyker get its squishiness alleviated at all? i havent touched this game so i havent tried the talent tree reworks

[glacial gyro]

Never ever hit up the armory before 30, the odds are severely weighted against 60% rolls before then

[abstract lichen]

Idk how this affects anything

[cedar cairn]

locking 60 on mobility specifically is fucking stupid

[near mauve]

psyker is straight up tanky now

[grave venture]

Literally hurts your gambling addiction

[abstract lichen]

I got a bunch of 60% pen and 60% damage

[knotty grotto]

i just reinstalled bc hive scum felt like yee yee ass magicless psyker

[abstract lichen]

[knotty grotto]

oh

[near mauve]

psyker is the cannon without the glass

[knotty grotto]

guess im maining the crackhead now

i like treating atoma like it's hotline miami let me be glass

[glacial gyro]

shop odds are weighted against 60s before then

[near mauve]

u can still be

[glacial gyro]

heavily

[near mauve]

its specific talents on psyker

just dont take em

[knotty grotto]

i'll check em out after i lvl this one to 30

[abstract lichen]

Is this real or desire sensor vibes

[broken moss]

from what im seeing, scumbag is glass without the cannon

[grave venture]

Exactly, you'll get what you want sooner so you can't gamble as much

[near mauve]

nah scum is all the cannon and then sum

rampage itself is fucking stupid

[knotty grotto]

is crowbar combo just pa > H > L > L?

[crude robin]

isnt chem toxin more like brittleness but for flesh?

[glacial gyro]

no you aren't understanding, the shop is less likely to give you a 60 in a stat

like, MUCH less likely

[limber cradle]

Named my scum Jacket, you get it

[glacial gyro]

the odds aren't 0% but they might as well be

[grand jewel]

if only any of their melees had confident strike

[grave venture]

No, you aren't understanding, I WANT TO GAMBLE MORE

[knotty grotto]

i remember reading all the info on the new class and thinking "they just turned gun psyker's playstyle into a whole ass class"

[glacial gyro]

Go get em champ

[knotty grotto]

im not sure how accurate that is

[rare idol]

p much

its great

[knotty grotto]

BASED

[worn gull]

Hot dog

Chem build rules

[rare idol]

ive been a melee and gun psyker for forever, its great times

[near mauve]

its basically zealot but dont get hit

if u go rampage route

[grave venture]

https://tenor.com/view/old-old-people-gambling-gamble-vegas-gif-7776685678749939051

[knotty grotto]

atheist zealot

reddit zealot

[near mauve]

faithless zealot

[cedar cairn]

I like shooting my guns but being made of glass is killing me

[knotty grotto]

rping that shit as a heretic legion conscript from trench crusade

[cedar cairn]

I am a sloppy loser who gets hit a lot

[rare idol]

the gun one is amazing

i zoom around blasting

[glacial gyro]

its real, its so you can't start a new character with ten fucktillion dockets banked and instantly have godrolls for the whole arsenal because every weapon costs pocket lint from brunt so you can roll 800 of every one of them without noticing

[knotty grotto]

i named my ganger zolasbathwater

[near mauve]

desparado is sick i used it for few games

[rare idol]

i did that anyway

[knotty grotto]

it's consistent with the rest of my roster

[rare idol]

it cost me 2m whcih is whatever

[cedar cairn]

BathwaterCartel

[broken bear]

I lowk love it

like a run n gun with shivs is fun af

and auto pistol

[near mauve]

ye

zoomin

[glacial gyro]

Right, and the negative weighting was there to ensure it wasn't easy

[broken bear]

need reload speed tho

[abstract lichen]

One of the hive scum lines was "by hell or high winds"

[near mauve]

there's a reload speed talent uptop

[abstract lichen]

What's a water

[near mauve]

and i think the autos have speedload blessing

[rare idol]

bathwater cartel on top!

[glacial gyro]

the dual autos have speedload blessing and you can also put reload speed in your stimm and theres a reload speed node, if you have all 3 up reloads take like a tenth of a second

[near mauve]

this haircut is literally on everyone lmao

[glacial gyro]

Nah, mohawk supremacy

[near mauve]

i have the flowy mohawk

goofy ahh

[versed spruce]

Water Cartel member running Iron colors...

[frosty urchin]

so real

mohawk with the sideburns

[cedar cairn]

Yeah I've seen the purple mohawk everywhere

[versed spruce]

I personally am a fan of that bald haircut with the two dangly bang braids

[broken bear]

'

[cedar cairn]

On one hand I like Zola
On the other hand PURPLE IS MY FAVORITE COLOR

[onyx aspen]

Same, even though i sided with Iron Riders

[candid flare]

I went bald because the person my scum is named after is bald

[hasty agate]

What is the “Cartel Special” that this penance refers to?

[worn gull]

I'm not sure how I'm supposed to be really usin the needle pistol all I know is I'm having fun while doing it

[candid flare]

But the smeared facepaint was an absolute gem even though it didn't come in brown

[wise sorrel]

Your customizable stimm as a ganger

[agile goblet]

Wasn't Felinid...

[hasty agate]

Do all configurations of the custom stim have the same duration or can I make one with a hella long duration?

[agile goblet]

I'm sad...

[hallow osprey]

All are 15 seconds, perk in the regular perk tree makes it 20

[wise sorrel]

I think you can influence the cooldown time though by uhhhh I think it was picking less options?

[hallow osprey]

Picking less stuff or that perk where killing enemies effected by chem toxin with melee

[wise sorrel]

Like, the less buffs it gives you, the faster it replenishes itself, yes? That's how it works?
Unfortunately it's finals week for fall term so I haven't had a chance to play yet...

[rare idol]

thats all water cartel gear

oh you mean the hair LMAO

i figure the hair is legal

[versed spruce]

Hair and face paint ye

[candid flare]

[high gull]

@thorny ginkgo https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a080866d-c9a3-4d13-b007-6910c9e46b53/wip-team-chemist

This is my work in progress chemist build atm

[thorny ginkgo]

thank you

[broken bear]

gopd run n gun is awesome

tracer maxxing

[high gull]

It's a general purpose build, but it focuses alot of dropping your crate and buffing teammates

[thorny ginkgo]

looks good

[ripe seal]

i think the stim only has a 15 second cooldown if you only pick like a single upgrade on it, which you might as well not even hgave it at all outside of easy dependancy, but if you're in that side of the tree you can get hte stim cooldown talent

[rare idol]

gotta take what the rng gives me

[wise sorrel]

This is, like, exactly what I wanted to play! Thanks so much args!

[thorny ginkgo]

how do we feel about the rashad over crowbar for rampage+adrenaline frenzy

[high gull]

Np, I had a little help making this so I can't take full credit.

[vale garden]

I legit almost made the joke that I was connected to an African server, then I check the settings and:

[thorny ginkgo]

ngl i never used the axe but it looks stronger than crowbar

[high gull]

You're still kind squishy so the main way I'd play is being in the middle of your team

[rain snow]

im at lvl 15 and hiver feels so squishy that i legit get shredded by single shots from heresy basic gunners

[high gull]

It's meant to be that way

[thorny ginkgo]

do you guys think rashad axe is good?

[vale garden]

Rashad is great

[rose flax]

rashad?

[thorny ginkgo]

the combat axe

[thorny ginkgo]

this

[lavish parrot]

So, shiv blessings are like riposte and flesh tearer?

[thorny ginkgo]

i might replace crowbar with it

[spring plinth]

I hear Rashad is the only non-exclusive hivescum melee worth taking so seems fine

[rain snow]

meant to struggle on heresy? bruh

[thorny ginkgo]

bet, do yk the dump stat for it?

[lavish parrot]

I will be surprised if rashad ISNT good

[ripe seal]

crowbar is a better all rounder I feel but I think the axe is maybe better at dealing with armor in horde situations? crowbar having to swap modes and dealing with the getting stuck in part which the axe doesn't get

[high gull]

What kind of build are you trying to run?

[vale garden]

HSword is right up there for one of our best form what I understand

For certain builds

[rare idol]

great a smyker crashed my game

[thorny ginkgo]

cole sent a clip with heavy sword it looks crazy

[rare idol]

as if they werent annoying enough

[rose flax]

Sure, but, tac axe is already a menace on any class, this class is literally going to be insane even without the tox on crit, agile, brutal momentum, longer, farther and faster recovery dodges, insane attack speed, yeah

[thorny ginkgo]

oou ok bet

[cedar cairn]

I'm struggling to clear hordes and stay alive with the crowbar and shivs

[spring plinth]

Mobility I assume

[humble trout]

What's the dump for the dual stub pistols? Collateral?

[thorny ginkgo]

its ur build

[blissful gull]

is the armory exchange google chrome extension working for you gys?

[ripe seal]

i like the tac axe alot but we do also get access to the knife which I feel plays similarly, we don't get the rapier however so the tac axe is a fair enough replacement in my book

[thorny ginkgo]

crowbar excels at crowd control and i just started using it

i like it more than shivs

[ripe seal]

crowbar is fun but I think I like the shivs more

[humble trout]

What blessing you running on it?

[ocean sun]

Is the "Stimmed" penance bugged? Just spent an entire mission with full stacks of dependency and didnt get it

[rose flax]

Crow bar attacks pretty fast with some of it's attacks, somehow even faster than shiv, when crowbar has 18% attack speed

[rain snow]

not much of a build on lvl 15, but trying to go desperado with rocket launcher and shivs+stub pistols

[rain snow]

whenever im not in desperado i feel like im playing fading light havoc

[thorny ginkgo]

almost every hit is a crit

[cedar cairn]

This is all I got so far

[thorny ginkgo]

ooh nvm yours is focused on guns

[crude robin]

mmmmm bleeeed

[rose flax]

👀

[thorny ginkgo]

i’m not sure, i do know crowbar scales with crit

same w shivs

[cedar cairn]

I'm trying but I keep getting butchered while reloading

[rose flax]

16 stacks, how much is max stacks for tox?

[humble trout]

If I did Unstoppable Force instead of Bash would it be okay?

[crude robin]

I should prob take off my bleed on crits, non weakspot seems good enough

[thorny ginkgo]

yea that’s good

[high gull]

Ah, word to the wise. Ganger is gonna be hell to play while leveling, you'll start getting the feel around level 20 I'd say

[errant jungle]

What color bonesaw is for unarmored and for armored?

[high gull]

That's when I feel most builds come online

[thorny ginkgo]

i started getting good around 18

after 20 you should be straight

[rain snow]

i've seen the purple perks

[novel quest]

this class so frustrating when it's not lvl30💔✌️

[ripe seal]

i think the default bonesaw is poison and I think the armored mode is blue?

[elder needle]

purple armour green flesh

[cedar cairn]

Yeah I guess I should give it more time
Like psyker lol

[errant jungle]

ty

[rain snow]

hiver seems to be borderline unplayable without them

[high gull]

@thorny ginkgo This is another great talent that's in the build btw if you're going for team support

[broken bear]

am i the only one who doesnt think its ass low lvl

[high gull]

Since you're basically always using toxin weapons

[ripe seal]

yeah, as much as I like desperado it took me actually hitting around level 15 or so for that build to start feeling like it was clicking

[thorny ginkgo]

ok bet thanks

[glacial gyro]

man I forgot this feeling, the feeling of absolute contempt and disdain for my teammates as I try to do penances and have all the enemies swept by someone who is probably also trying to do penances

[frosty urchin]

I've been given a combat axe as a mission reward for 5 missions straight

[high gull]

You're always applying a dmg debuff to mobs

[frosty urchin]

whyyyyyyy

[humble trout]

The second I get that rocket I'm straight balling ong

[glacial gyro]

a group of gunners comes around the corner and its a rocket launcher quickdraw contest

[rain snow]

damage immunity for range crits is crazy

[ripe seal]

but I'm finding that rampage gets online way sooner, I hitnk desperado still hasn't gotten there yet

[thorny ginkgo]

rampage is so strong

[broken bear]

i fuck with the blinders

[novel quest]

I've been starting to get it but still get squooshed by the occasional firing squad

[cedar cairn]

Btw what's everyone doing with Stimms

[thorny ginkgo]

i’m doing this

[novel quest]

I've been full sending strength

[near mauve]

i just slapped max strength on my stims and i dont care about the 70s cooldown

[novel quest]

because im using bone saw

[humble trout]

real af. I'm trying the chem grenade instead for my boys who rock the rocket

[near mauve]

huge dmg boost every minute is ok

[forest willow]

Reminder to grind penances in Mortis trials. There's perks for basically infinite rockets. Easiest way to grind babyyyy

[elder needle]

mostly for melee blender with stimm cdr

[glacial gyro]

This, because I want the cooldown as low as possible so I can get the 'kill enemies with heavies while stimm is active' penance out of the way

[novel quest]

ye im rocking that, it's also just my curios havent come together. and it's a little frustrating

[ripe seal]

I've mostly been going bottom left with stims so far, I was thinking of running ability cooldown on my stim crate build but now that I know that it only applies the stimm when its also ff cooldown, I'll probably just swap it to everything in the top part

[thorny ginkgo]

is hyper violence a good talent?

[elder needle]

i dont think you wanna run cdr stimm with crate tbh

its a nonbo

[high gull]

I mostly like this set up because my stimms comeback faster than my box

But once I toss that box down on my team

They become gods for 15s

[ripe seal]

yeah, i was thinking that placing the crate would apply the stim no matter what so I was gonna build around crate spam for the other stim effects and also the poison when it wears off

[thorny ginkgo]

i’m running hyper critical and violence idk if that’s good

[sturdy marsh]

So is the brittleness poison best to use on a carapace or unyielding enemy? Or just use it whenever

[elder needle]

problem is even with fast acting stimms the cd does not start until the whole effect faded

[high gull]

I'm running hyper violence since I'm not always guaranteed ammo for my needler

[glacial gyro]

I'm pretty sure cdr stimm also affects box cooldown

[elder needle]

so you dont get cdr benefit

[ripe seal]

I feel like its probably not worth investing into a tree unless you go all the way, but 15 seconds of 19% cooldown reduction I guess is at least sorta ok. reduced stamina cost too if your team is into that

[glacial gyro]

Ah, that, Yeah if you want to do cdr stimm with it you also want the node that has the effect linger after you leave it

[ripe seal]

but I feel like 12% strength is kinda too little

[cedar cairn]

Every time the boss has appeared on that final trench mission with Scum squads

[sturdy marsh]

The missile launcher is so fun

[thorny ginkgo]

is missing 1% a big deal or no

[maiden heart]

yes because even numbers are better than odd numbers 😭

[ripe seal]

i don't know any specific breakpoitns but it'd probably be fine

true

[maiden bramble]

Man, Hive Scum REALLY only gets the most out of its synergy near max level. It's a pain trying to play even through Heresy with how squishy the entire team is.

[rare idol]

what are people doing with the crowbar?

[thorny ginkgo]

ngl idek what breakpoints are

[maiden heart]

just a peeve of mine tbh

[rare idol]

for your sanity yes, for gameplay no

[thorny ginkgo]

rampage+frenzy

[maiden bramble]

Crits. Lots of crits.

[thorny ginkgo]

crit machine

[maiden bramble]

Crowbar has some nasty damage.

[rare idol]

building the weapon itself people

i have a build in mind lmao

[thorny ginkgo]

im blowing through shit with crowbar, its been a breeze since i gave up shivs

[cedar cairn]

Hitting people with it

[knotty grotto]

whats the combos for crowbar?

[rare idol]

i was thinking superiority + opportunist

because that seems pretty straightforward

and then picking crit + carapace because i hate carapace

[thorny ginkgo]

whatever u want, i spam light attacks on hordes and heavy on crushers and etc

[flint granite]

pistols mobility or collat dump?

[tardy wagon]

how it feels to pop desperado with twin stubs

[maiden bramble]

mobility is the dump

[broken bear]

purple.

[thorny ginkgo]

keep in mind if you go crowbar with rampage and frenzy your finger will be in pain

[forest willow]

God I love weapons with high impact and making people get knocked tf around

[flint granite]

damn, brunt got my hopes up

[thorny ginkgo]

+50-60% attack speed

i think

[forest willow]

Defenses, surely you mean

[flint granite]

I was asking about the pistols

they dont have a defense stat

[hasty agate]

What do yall think is the best weapon to farm this penance with?

[maiden bramble]

I was gonna say lol

[tardy wagon]

machine pistols probably

[forest willow]

Autopistols for sure

[ripe seal]

the more I play the class, the more I feel like cooldown reduction talent stuff is only really worth taking if you're playing poison stim crate, desperado could get some use out of cooldown reduction to spam but I feel in order to dependancy requires you to not focus into alot of the good gunstuff that I feel is important to making that work, or that you'd have to get into a sorta weird rhythm to get the cooldown reduction from using the stim to work

[hasty agate]

I was thinking the same

[forest willow]

Oh I thought it was still crowbar talk lole

[rare idol]

no its really really good to do the CDR stuff with desperado

[thorny ginkgo]

my build so far, it's doing great

[flint granite]

ye was asking if it was mob or collat

[rare idol]

you get unlimited firing and can trigger all your "i am immune to damage" traits with it

[flint granite]

iirc collat is usually a dump

[tardy wagon]

wonder if there is a bolt pistol build for desperado

[rare idol]

that might be tough considering

[ripe seal]

I get the appeal of it but I feel like you'd have to dedicated a decent part of your build to make it work when you can take stuff to make desperado better when you're actually using it

[flint granite]

holding on to em either way

[rare idol]

low ammo in the tank

[rare idol]

you can easily do both

[abstract lichen]

Is bolt pistol alt fire considered braced? I assume not

[ripe seal]

pretty sure that's an ADS

[abstract lichen]

Gangster ads

[thorny ginkgo]

if you have the basic mechanics down for tide this class is op

[tardy wagon]

imo the purple wrap on the tread lightlies arm kinda ruins the transcendant set

[vast surge]

What perks y’all running on shivs?

[ripe seal]

I dig the bolt pistol but I value raw fire rate and reload speed on desperado which the bolt pistol doesn't have

[thorny ginkgo]

yall like the drip?

[abstract lichen]

Bolt pistol probably does better as a special sniper on a rampage build

[broken bear]

I wish the outfits had less arm coverings

Lemme show the tats off 😭

[near mauve]

just go full naked

[forest willow]

Think of it was war trophies, taken from dead Water Cartel gangers moving in on your turf

[vast surge]

Flak Cara? Maybe? Idk

[rare idol]

im gonna do rampage with crowbar and the deagles

[ripe seal]

I do also generally run the bolt pistol with run n gun and treat it like a deagle, mobile 1 shot headshot on heavier units

[rare idol]

i kinda think the deagles are intended for desperado

[thorny ginkgo]

try needle pistol too

[inner void]

Wow, needle pistol has ass blessings available

[rare idol]

im saving needle for when i do right side penances

[thorny ginkgo]

[ripe seal]

i still need to get my hand on a needle gun

[thorny ginkgo]

needle gun complements rampage melee builds pretty good

[rare idol]

but its wrong on theme

[inner void]

but all of the blessings are boring or lame

[rare idol]

so it cannot be permitted

[thorny ginkgo]

kill crushers, bossess or wtv in seconds

[ripe seal]

rampage should be shredding hordes and needle gun is an easy anti heavy gun compared to the revolver or, semi auto rifle, or bolt weapon

[shut grotto]

Any know what the dumpstat should be for the bonesaw?

[inner void]

Especially as you can hit anywhere with the needler and it still works

[thorny ginkgo]

they’re going to nerf needle i’m calling it lmao

[inner void]

The explosive mode seems pointless

[edgy jungle]

2400 hours and by far this is the weakest class in the game

[echo harness]

mobility

[ripe seal]

unless hotshot is good, I feel like the go to blessings for the needle gun is concentrate fire and whatever blessing you like, maybe stripped down for pure utility

[edgy jungle]

very limited mobility, toughness reduction, damage reduction... just feels bad all arou8nd

[shut grotto]

Oh yeah, idk I was lookin at the stat and didn't see mobility

[inner void]

all of those are defensive issues - do you mean weakest as in squishy?

[near mauve]

limited mobility?????????????

your dodges literally make you fly across the map

[eager otter]

how much chem toxin can you apply to an enemy? with like melee crits through the talent or the needle pistol, is there a different cap? or is it a dmg cap?

[near mauve]

the dmg is op

[thorny ginkgo]

personal problem

[near mauve]

class is just a dont get hit type class and leveling it sucks

[inner void]

I can definitely agree that its squishy

[thorny ginkgo]

zealot is bottom tier for me

[near mauve]

zealot is top tier

[ripe seal]

I feel like my stamina is insane on this class, and dodge perks are just nice

[trim wind]

They are glass cannons, but do have alot of mobility

[thorny ginkgo]

i have psyker bias

[floral bolt]

i cant wait to get 3 curios lol

[abstract lichen]

Zealot will never be bottom when martyrdom exists

[ripe seal]

we do get some sorta nice and free toughness regen stuff but it still pales compared to everyone else

[inner void]

the chem grenade goes hard

[thorny ginkgo]

realistically ogryn is lemme stop bsing

[ripe seal]

yeah, leveling a new class always just sucks and I think i'm feeling that here more than with arbite

[near mauve]

ogryn is not weak

[thorny ginkgo]

what’s the weakest class then?

[inner void]

Arbites is very forgiving in terms of getting hit

[near mauve]

there's unioronically 0 weak classes rn everyone is different flavor of busted

[modern silo]

anyone know what sorts of customisation options change based on the hiver's cartel affiliation???

[trim wind]

Arby was super tanky from the jump

[near mauve]

none
they're all broken and if you know what you're doing u can make all of them work

[modern silo]

zealot probably weakest now...

[thorny ginkgo]

true

[inner void]

I'd say it's hardest to extract the OP from Psyker

[patent bone]

Ye

[modern silo]

psyker with flame staff for sure is sooo good atm

[thorny ginkgo]

psyker is just busted

[ripe seal]

I think maybe some dialogue and your starting head item, but you get option to all 4 gang colors

[modern silo]

ahh, I see. Thank you thank you!

[inner void]

What I mean is, it's very easy to play a Psyker badly

[trim wind]

Mostly changes what tattoos you can use, there's cartel themed clothing but you can wear whatever

[ripe seal]

psyker became less OP once everyone else got the rapier

[molten bolt]

anyone else feeling that this class is a bit weak? gunners are a major fear of mine now

[latent belfry]

Nuh uh

[thorny ginkgo]

no

[inner void]

Squishy, yes
Weak, no

[modern silo]

HMM, I might have to remake a couple characters to have a look then lol

[near mauve]

psyker only got 1000 buffs since giving dueling sword to everyone

[trim wind]

Squishy but can do some dmg

[latent belfry]

Gotta play smarter with your toughness n health

[near mauve]

no biggie

[molten bolt]

huh

[trim wind]

You can preview just can't equip

[patent bone]

Just found out both the Zealot AND the Anarchist bit heretics

[modern silo]

ohhh good to know

[patent bone]

One of them did it for show

[latent belfry]

I'm so sorry to say that the class is perfectly viable and it's just designed to be squishy

[ripe seal]

I do feel like hive scum suffer more from being unleveled and ungeared more than every other class

[latent belfry]

You gotta position better, pick your moments, etc

[grand jewel]

which chem pistol is purple toxin?

[ripe seal]

I at least felt stronger at this point playing the other classes

[near mauve]

if gunners are bothering you, play enhanced desparado and simply delete them from the game

[inner void]

Spec your curios against gunner dmg

[molten bolt]

yeah you right I should not try to turn this into another melee class

[near mauve]

he's great in melee too

rampage is insane

[patent bone]

Took a while but I run Desperado and got the hang of the class by now

[latent belfry]

Rampage my beloved

Crowbar feels like it forces you to position well especially

[ripe seal]

I've only ran rampage with the crowbar and I just turn my brain off and spam lights with the thing and everything dies

[latent belfry]

To get those huge heavy melees

[inner void]

At least you can get 60% Gunner dmg reduction from curios

[patent bone]

Desperado is bestest

[thorny ginkgo]

eh

[patent bone]

Ammo for daaayyyyssss

[abstract lichen]

Rampage is crazy compared to SG on meleeker

[latent belfry]

I'm big on crowbar

[glacial gyro]

so what do we have that's got good sweeps into hordes

[latent belfry]

It's a better feeling crusher

It's what I've always wanted in a melee weapon

[inner void]

I hated the crowbar.
Maybe I was doing it wrong

[latent belfry]

Heavy melees and push attacks are your friend

[lavish parrot]

BROS
I GOT ACCESS TO STIMMS LAB

[ripe seal]

is the first heavy on the crowbar a strikedown, because it feels like a wide sweep to me

[latent belfry]

I genuinely do not know and it drives me insane

[inner void]

Felt like the strikedown left me open way too much

[latent belfry]

I'm 90% sure that blunt mode attacks don't actually have strikedown properties

[trim wind]

Gotta flip to the pointy end for strike down

[tight hinge]

jesse we have to cook

[latent belfry]

It's very difficult to get da hang of, I'm still trying to myself

[inner void]

I wish mode swap was faster

[ripe seal]

I know the different attack properties have different effects but I really only view them as swing patterns

[lost bear]

This is like the anti-Arbites

[candid flare]

Just got my crowbar but paused to re do some of my other classes tree's so I don't draw a round fish on my walls in pheces before I play it

[steel kite]

I'm struggling as bad at hive... any trips that could help?

[steel kite]

so*

[candid flare]

I love crusher tho so I think I'll like it

[lost bear]

Seen whole teams eat shit on Malice already

[thorny ginkgo]

get used to sliding dodging and moving like a crackhead

[inner void]

Once I'm done with shivs I'm going to bone saw

[ripe seal]

the attack chart for the crowbar says the first heavy is a strikedown but it doesnlt feel like it when I use it, I know the mode swap is all single target

[lost bear]

Honestly, respecting movement and melee fundamentals

[cedar cairn]

My sole criticism for Scum is that I wish the Stimm was brighter to show when it was charged more clearly

[lethal quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/ron-swanson-parks-and-rec-its-so-beautiful-gif-15644547

[ripe seal]

yeah I don't think the stim effect is as good feeling as the regular stims in the game

[thorny ginkgo]

god forbid new players start off with this class as their first lmao

[ripe seal]

visually at least

[sturdy linden]

oh god, I have entered Heresy

not looking forward to this lol

[inner void]

I just wish it didn't make my screen all blurry so I can't see shit

[lost bear]

It's incredible in its envelope, but punishes you so hard for stepping out and girlbossing too close to the sun

It's great

[sturdy marsh]

Are y'all using the brittleness toxin? I keep forgetting about it. Where should I try to use it?

[lost bear]

Honestly Psyker should be at least this fragile

[latent belfry]

it's like dantes inferno

[glacial gyro]

I'd have liked to be able to actually reproduce the existing ones

[inner void]

Uhh... monstrosities... captains... idk

[candid flare]

That was my first game after getting home from work.
Campaign mission IV
We got tunnelvision on the boss when he was a sliver of heath and 3 of us got downed , the 4th couldn't res

[latent belfry]

traveling thru the rings of hell to reach auric heaven

[unreal osprey]

this seems rly bad no?

[thorny ginkgo]

just took out a chaos spawn in 30 seconds

[high gull]

one match away from auric lobbies

[rose flax]

They still haven't fixed the gpu utilization issue?

[high gull]

Aaand it's a fucken gloriana

[inner void]

Decidedly mid

[abstract lichen]

I've only seen my friend with a 5090 crying about frame drops in the lobby but I don't see any problems

[inner void]

It's basically conditional 11% CDR

[steady creek]

task manager is woefully unreliable for showing actual util, use msi afterburner or whatever software shipped with your card

[ripe seal]

being able to spam desperado more often is nice but 5 seconds is just pretty small, but the power only starts the 30 second cooldown once the mode ends,unlike execution stance which if I remember right starts the cooldown as soon as the power starts so if you can extend the duration long enough, you can have it ready to use as soon as it ends

[thorny ginkgo]

rampage is so much fun

[inner void]

Actually.. I have a 5080 and I noticed some weird frame drops in odd places...
It's not just me, then?

[thorny ginkgo]

i’m having more fun with this class compared to arbites ngl

[abstract lichen]

Not sure, he's just rich and doesn't know computers and I'm not about to be his free tech support

[toxic dagger]

No Darktide has verifiable frame timing problems

In general it is an unoptimised mess imo

[rose flax]

I understand, but I know, that when task manager reports this, my fps is permanently dropped in this game, resets help, but I thought it would be fixed by now
(lol germanently)

[lost bear]

Arbites felt like pure unga bunga which was fun for a few games

But made you way the hell worse at any other class

[mint fable]

Man, learning how to survive as Hivescum is truly unique experience

[inner void]

I think Arbites has bad action skills that don't feel good to use

[ripe seal]

arbite just felt pretty bulky

[tulip seal]

Time to go see what flavour of fent they're serving in the mortis trials

[near mauve]

tech update when brother

[steady creek]

hitching might be related to loading as far as im aware

[near mauve]

this game despertly needs it

more than any content updates

[lost bear]

Break the Line tho

[ripe seal]

yeah, all of arites main abilities felt worse than the other charges or AOE buff skills to me

[lethal quartz]

you'll feel that everything else is so stupidly tanky afterwards

[inner void]

Oh hey, my name turned red!

[lethal quartz]

it's like ankle weights

[toxic dagger]

Arbites is solid, dependable, powerful, well-rounded. Hive Scum peaks at very high highs but gives up basically all tankiness. Rewarding when you pilot it correctly and very engaging because you gotta twitch for your life

[mint fable]

Rocking duel pistols just to feel more damage per shot when I spray and pray

[inner void]

The enhanced dodge really helps

[lost bear]

Arbites has the issue with excessive tankiness and CC really making the offense overbearing

[limber cradle]

Hive Scum feels like a hard knowledge check on the hundreds of hours I've played tide games and it is very, very rewarding

[thorny ginkgo]

melee psykers should play hivescum just fine

[limber cradle]

Scum feels a little vermintidey tbh, in some ways

[inner void]

My dream is not for you!

[ripe seal]

you don't got the safety net of spamming shouts or having a bunch of sources of toughness and resistances

[blissful gull]

is "'quick and deadly" not worth it even though it applies to both melee and ranged?

[lost bear]

Hive Scum feels glassier than Psyker tbh

[near mauve]

hive scum is just making me realize that i have a skill issue with postioning

[limber cradle]

Psyker isn't glass nowadays

[near mauve]

and that's good

[toxic dagger]

Psyker isn't very glass since the tree rework

[lost bear]

Yeah

[inner void]

Apart from regenerating toughness by smacking stuff more

[ripe seal]

psyker always had alot of nice toughness regen options and also fair defenses

[limber cradle]

Hive Scum makes me feel like a legitimate god, the fuel my ego is getting not taking damage while other scum fall is like fine cut stimms

[keen comet]

What are my weapon dump stats with hive scu?

[lost bear]

The rep endures but it's no longer glass is what I meant

[mint fable]

Yeah, its surreal for me to see players drop down so quickly as Hive Scum

[near mauve]

this class is gonna be in my rotation for sure

[thorny ginkgo]

if ur good at rogue classes in other games that require a lot of moving and etc, it should translate to ganger

[near mauve]

very different experience

[toxic dagger]

Bursters are the bane of my existence on this class

[inner void]

Lots of people saying mobility

[rose flax]

has never been glass if you used kintic deflection and delfection blessing though

[mint fable]

Its hard for me to survive since I move so fast my game lags out

[tulip seal]

Going from ogryn main to scum is pain. On one hand I'm fast as fuck but I die to the mere suggestion of a slap

[toxic dagger]

I'll be doing really well but a teammate fails to push one burster and oop there goes half my hp.

[vale garden]

Simply dodge

[warped quiver]

have noticed as well

[thorny ginkgo]

i’m so happy i’m not playing malice anymore, ts was hell

[limber cradle]

The vet experience prepared me for this

[lost bear]

Haven't been in Malice for a while and revisiting it was funny

[inner void]

I thought perhaps it's CPU related, but if others are saying it's GPU usage - I'm not sure

[keen comet]

So I don't need the increase in dodge limit.

[near mauve]

class is sitting at 61% positive and this is the type of shit being written

[limber cradle]

I think if you think scum is bad it's a self report

This shit is crazy

[lethal quartz]

hard exposed

[lost bear]

Arbites crutching energy

[warped quiver]

have no idea, I've only noticed a few specific places do it and it happens there every time I'm there

[thorny ginkgo]

he’s just bad at the game

[inner void]

or pushing it but it not counting because it was 0.1 s too late

I hate it when you push the burster and it gets you anyway :|

[thorny ginkgo]

this class doesn’t even feel like a glass cannon in my opinion

[near mauve]

chinese reviews are insane as always

[thorny ginkgo]

really depends on how you build it

[toxic dagger]

Once all the other scum make it to auric I'll probably switch back to arbites or ogryn for a while and help them all stay up lol

[latent belfry]

all da reviews are positive for me

mostly

[rare idol]

im into crowbar af

[unreal osprey]

i love translate

[ripe seal]

I do feel the flimsiness compared to other classes but I also know that I’m getting hit because I’m playing like a compete dumbass

[rare idol]

also the akimbo pistols and their huge ammo supply are great for killing the stuff that is annoying to reach

[thorny ginkgo]

me too, i think it’s the best out of the new melee weapons

[rare idol]

crowbar goes hard

[thorny ginkgo]

bonesaw is too slow

[rare idol]

alt mode deletes crushers etc

[near mauve]

this is poetry

all the negative reviews are just

[unreal osprey]

desperado + reload speed stim + dual autos is so fun

[rare idol]

rocket launcher is cool but the lack of regen is pain

[near mauve]

"im dogshit"

[inner void]

I love the dual stubs

[rare idol]

cdr stim > reload stim imo

[bronze glade]

this is a first, but i'm going to start taking revive speed

[vast surge]

Dual stubs and crowbar are my life essence rn

[warped quiver]

low level lobbies reminded me how okay I should be with it being my own fault when bursters hit me

[unreal osprey]

100% but the attack speed is more fun

[bronze glade]

because of the amount of times people keep fuckign going down in my missions

[ripe seal]

I do like how the akimbo SMGs don’t invalidate the braced autoguns since they handle so much better at range; even without the fancy spread and recoil buff talent at the start

[thorny ginkgo]

revive speed+gunner resistance+toughness

[lost bear]

Tbf Scum probably really does not like Pox Gas

[inner void]

How so?

[near mauve]

1500 hours in the game xddddd

[tranquil fjord]

why are all the hive scum dropping like flies

[inner void]

Does anyone like pox gas?

[unreal osprey]

the only thing they invalidate is the normal autopistol

[tranquil fjord]

thats still very good

[lost bear]

Arbites jogging on the spot

[bronze glade]

tbf on some setups you can just ignore poxgas and fight in it

[unreal osprey]

class is insanely squishy especially in low lvl

[thorny ginkgo]

they think they can just run in front of everything and shoot

[worn gull]

Scum level 1: Man this class rules

Scum level 12: Man this class sucks

[bronze glade]

nah SAP has its niche

[worn gull]

Scum level 30: Man this class really rules

[ripe seal]

I do feel like the single shredder handles better both from the hip and braced

[bronze glade]

i swear HIV players really are exceptionally bad

[tranquil fjord]

the trial by fire is the best way to get better

[unreal osprey]

wrong it’s ruled the whole way

[novel oracle]

people are being filtered super hard
they dont have the defense of other classes to carry them

[ripe seal]

A flashlight will always be nice to have

[glacial gyro]

no slayer experience

[novel oracle]

so a mistake is super deadly

[abstract lichen]

Not if they blame the game or their team

[inner void]

Unless they quit and leave a negative review on Steam lel

[abstract lichen]

[tranquil fjord]

filtered + l

[abstract lichen]

Gunners op!!! 😠

[tranquil fjord]

the humble

run slide

dodge slide

[near mauve]

i think people should pass an iq test before being allowed to write reviews

[abstract lichen]

Can't press crouch

My keyboard is missing 10 buttons

[novel quest]

hit level 20 and I think I'm starting to get the feel for hive scum

[near mauve]

this but also early leveling experience is awful

majority of the good shit is down lmao

[lost bear]

I drew a tac axe

Turns out it slaps on the high crit high tempo class

[thorny ginkgo]

rampage and frenzy?

[tranquil fjord]

hyper critical turns it into a monster

[inner void]

It is kinda crazy that at ~Lv. 5 Toughness goes from 75 to 100

[thorny ginkgo]

i’m running that build with crowbar

tempted to use rashad

[lost bear]

Idk the names by heart yet but probably

[toxic dagger]

Idk, I thought it was refreshing to just rely on my fundamentals

The shivs with that early dodge talent move so far lmao

That's really all you need

For malice or smth

[shrewd spoke]

I call upon those with better understanding to teach me the ways of the crowbar

[lost bear]

Bonk

[shrewd spoke]

How do I use this thing

[inner void]

when I saw the 4% T. Regen on melee hit, I thought "wow, that's OP", then I realised that the Toughness bar is rather... short

[lost bear]

Blind grenades have been such a crutch

[near mauve]

i keep ledging myself bro

[vast surge]

I am quite enjoying chems and chem accessories

[tranquil fjord]

i wish float like a butterfly was easier to get in the skill tree

[shrewd spoke]

Chems are quite nice

[lost bear]

Haven't gotten a good heavy sword yet but the talent tree makes it look like a really good platform for it

Sidesteps all the usual issues

[lethal quartz]

yes

[frosty pumice]

the stimm really needs a better indicator im struggling to keep my addiction fueled

[lethal quartz]

almost cleared auric hi shock true duo on no man's with it

[shrewd spoke]

Though I will admit having my own stim messes with my desire to hold a healing stim at all times

[vast surge]

In fact. I don’t even mind the weird stimm box. I can’t think about a single reason to run it over anything else, but I don’t mind its existence. It’s unique.

[vast surge]

I felt this way this morning. But it’s actually been really nice to not clutch a healing stim all the time.

[shrewd spoke]

Also random question anyone else getting the train mission more often?

[tranquil fjord]

within the campaign roster, it is a requisite for the new mission

[frosty pumice]

people use it for leveling

[inner void]

Havent had it once yet

[shrewd spoke]

I’ve gotten it like 3 times over the past 4 missions

[thorny ginkgo]

just got it

[humble trout]

Asking a lot here but what do you all use for the Needle Pistol, Dual Stub pistols and the Bone Saw.

[grave venture]

Oh my god this is what I wanted Zealot to be

[ripe seal]

I got the train missiokblike 2-3 times in a row, but think just bad luck with the map rotation

[inner void]

Made my guy as hideous as possible

[sturdy marsh]

Ragers haven't scared me this much since I first started playing the game.

[thorny ginkgo]

dump stat is stability

[light linden]

every time i buy a Shiv with 60% Mobility, it becomes 60% Penetration instead 😅

[inner void]

blue hair

[thorny ginkgo]

for needle

[humble trout]

Much appreciated

[ripe seal]

I’m liking the double barrel on desperado, I can see skipping a ton of the ranged skills and focusing on cooldown reduction just to spam desperado working better than other guns

[inner void]

Having 10s of ranged immunity is also kinda nuts

[limber cradle]

It is actually insane

And I'm gonna use it while it lasts

[inner void]

Rodin shootin' at you not doin' shit

[limber cradle]

I rezzed someone in the middle of rodin plasma spam

Clutched up cause 2 other people were dead dead

[inner void]

[limber cradle]

Desperado carry

[inner void]

"plasma spam" is fun to say

[limber cradle]

I agree

[ornate slate]

This class is dumb.
Should've been Sister of Battle.

[tight rock]

double barrel finally have a home?

[sturdy linden]

heresy games are rough bro.

[limber cradle]

Bait

[thorny ginkgo]

is it crazy to play this game with airpod max’s, my razer headphones just broke 😭

[inner void]

Playing it without headphones at all would be much crazier.

[ripe seal]

I dug double barrel exe stance but I could the breakpoints on it for 1 shots to be inconsistent, but using the double barrel as a pure spam weapon works, even if it doesn’t have the spread that the arbite shotgun or the non slug combat ones

[sturdy linden]

how's Rampage with Shiv?

[thorny ginkgo]

i tried that when my headphones would die and it was quite an experience

[thorny ginkgo]

idk but crowbar is amazing

[fallen arrow]

You using the alt fire for it while under Desperado or you just doing default fire?

[inner void]

was it an experience of being dead a lot?

[thick wharf]

Got a combat blade with +10% Melle damage (elites)

What counts as elites?

[thorny ginkgo]

YUP

[near mauve]

sisters are never making it

why tf are people asking for it

[limber cradle]

Nah its bait

Do not engage

[ripe seal]

I mostly just did single shots but there’s a place for blasting both barrels, just have to run it more to get the right feel for it

[thorny ginkgo]

i can’t believe they made this class… should’ve been admech or a space marine

[near mauve]

i cant fall asleep so ill entertain the troll

[vast surge]

Why don’t you ask for a space marine while we’re talking about things that won’t happen

[abstract lichen]

Ragers, maulers, gunners, shotgunners, reapers, bulwarks, crushers

[novel quest]

sister of battle LOOOOLLL

[thorny ginkgo]

skittari top 10 things to never happen btw

[fallen arrow]

Why was it this class.... why not the Emperor.....

[near mauve]

i hope they never add ad mech just so people cope mald seethe and explode irl

[ornate slate]

Nah that'd be OP.

[main prairie]

could someone do me a quick favor? gameslantern is having this weird bug for me where the talent tree looks like this, could someone take a quick screenshot of this build for me?
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a07c16c1-4370-4657-9f6b-33e714ca67c5/reginalds-melee-build

[quaint field]

i must say after playing the class today some it really is PAPER thin

[ripe seal]

I do feel like this class should have came out 1 or 2 years ago

[thorny ginkgo]

this class is more fun than arbites on launch

just my opinion

[latent belfry]

Do you have force dark mode on in chrome

[vast surge]

I, personally, think this class is a breath of fresh air in this game.

[maiden heart]

its been very fun so far

[vast surge]

I suck ass at it, but it’s something different.

[thorny ginkgo]

i agree, rampage frenzy is very fun

[ornate slate]

"Breath of Fresh air"
Nurgle game
My brother in big E

[main prairie]

Honestly, that might be it, let me check

[thick wharf]

Oh so why use any other 25% one when I can just run elites for a wider range?

Also ty for the answer

[abstract lichen]

Because 25% is more

[main prairie]

that was it, bless

[abstract lichen]

Also it doesn't effect bosses

Or specials

[vast surge]

I’m not much of a ranged player, and I even like desperado.

[thick wharf]

Mmm

[thorny ginkgo]

i don’t think they’ll send admechs on suicide missions

[thick wharf]

What type of enemy do you think poses tho most threat to a fast paced combat knife character?

[thorny ginkgo]

too valuable

[thick wharf]

Unyielding?

[vast surge]

FFS they give you a noob tube it’s great

[ripe seal]

I guess probably fire and gas?

[abstract lichen]

Unyielding for bosses yea

[tight rock]

what is the best melee option for crushers

combat axe?

[abstract lichen]

And non carapace ogryns

[near mauve]

people completely forgot the theme of the game and the type of characters being showcased

[thorny ginkgo]

uhhh crowbar

[tight rock]

mmk

[thorny ginkgo]

if you do use crowbar make sure you build around crit

[merry forge]

People forget skitarii are indeed expendable

[subtle sleet]

My one problem with hive scum is that all 3 abilities are just buffs. There’s no utility like ogryn and arbitor’s charge or veteran and zealot’s shouts/sneaks

[ripe seal]

I don’t know too much about the low but how low ranking do adepteus guys go? I feel like you don’t have to go super high end to make them work

[thorny ginkgo]

guys what are the best modifiers for adrenaline frenzy? i’m running rampage

[drifting heron]

Violence is fun
Also rampage has a shout

[lavish forge]

its not the flashiest thing in the new class but HOLY FUCK the needle pistol is good

[thorny ginkgo]

it’s busted lmao

[lavish forge]

it can literally drop a crusher in like, 2 seconds

[maiden heart]

just unlocked needle pistol, eager to try

[abstract lichen]

Infinite range too

[ripe seal]

The stim case is really the only big team utility the class has based on how your make your stim, also a gun scum can ignore having to pick up ammo if you build them right for what that’s worth

[thorny ginkgo]

you don’t even need talents to support the needle pistol

[latent belfry]

Not to be the nerdy lore guy but arbitrators are trained at schola progenums, the same place that commissars and sororitas are trained, which puts them pretty high on the importance scale

[stark stone]

For hyper-critical... human-sized counts most elites... right?

[novel oracle]

yes

[placid prairie]

what, why is the fish part of the emperor's children

[thorny ginkgo]

yes

[stark stone]

Oh god...

[subtle sleet]

I’m just saying, I feel like rampage and desperado could’ve been just merged into one ability with a talent point allocated to use as either melee or ranged.

[abstract lichen]

No

[stark stone]

Even if I have just a 10% crit rate on my build this is gonna be glorious

[drifting heron]

No

Bad

[thorny ginkgo]

do u want to see my rampage build

[vast surge]

Rampage shout is rad. Saved me from a dog earlier.

[merry forge]

So are useful psykers who aren’t sacrificed, one in a million chance you’ll be born one

[sturdy linden]

it would be real nice if my teammates didn't rush ahead on a giga squish class lol

[maiden heart]

needle pistol dump stat? id assume stopping power right? or is it mobi

[stark stone]

Sure, idk if this hyper-critical is even gonna be useful on the twin autopistols though

[lavish forge]

i wonder what it like. is.

[sturdy linden]

I'm not good neough to carry

[stark stone]

But if it is... well...

[thorny ginkgo]

stability

[lavish forge]

what is it shooting

just, syringes?

[maiden heart]

oh ok, cheers

[ornate slate]

We're trying to destroy a chaos insurgency that has largely usurped a hiveworld that manufactures 80% of the sector's Leman Russ along with their fuel and spare parts and ammunition....
We're kinda losing this battle and aren't killing them faster than they spread their influence
Severe risk of losing the planet to Exterminatus if something isn't done.
Literal have a mission in the game about sending a secret message with contents we're not allowed to know, to be sent from a large array planetside before we're overrun by cultists
Easily could've been a distress signal meant to be sent to the Adepta Sororitas
Nope.
Our big, grand plan to help us do what literal Space Police with Terminator dogs cant do?
Literal criminals with trash Ork-style smashed together to resemble a weapon.

[blissful gull]

what should I change in my build?

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a077c006-9ca4-4489-a21a-c90f332ae6e3/havoc40-meleecrackheadadrenaline

[abstract lichen]

That was knife loner zealots back in the day

[latent belfry]

Those aren't any of the people we play as tho except for possibly savant

[thorny ginkgo]

you want mobility on needle

[abstract lichen]

👴

[latent belfry]

We aren't navigators or astropaths

[patent bone]

Does your What the freak is Ammo build work for Stubs too? It should right?

[novel oracle]

yes

[glacial gyro]

I'm now in that awkward spot where I need a better weapon to pull my weight in higher difficulties, but I'm still too low level for a god roll to be realistically likely, and I'm not going to spend one morbillion resources juicing a mid roll

[latent belfry]

Imperium generally likes its combat psykers to be nine feet tall and encased in ceramite

[merry forge]

Useful psykers are always not common either. That includes us especially with how dangerous sanctioning can be

[dim wigeon]

ogryn has point blank barrage and vets core ability is just a shooting buff, we have classes that are a bit more selfish their contribution is just killing, you can just be a beat stick

[vast surge]

You will suffer and you will like it

[stark stone]

God I can't wait to get this

[hasty agate]

Cole, cook me up a double barrel ranged build for the Scum.

[patent bone]

The stubs? They're fun as fook

[stark stone]

Camera got sent to the backrooms

[blissful gull]

reckon swift endurance is worth the 5% crit tax node?

[stark stone]

I should try the stubs, but dual autopistols just feels good

[thorny ginkgo]

can’t wait until i play with other classes lmao

[vast surge]

They’re all gonna feel so easy in comparison lol

[patent bone]

Dual autopistols are amazing, but something about the stubs is just so... satisfying

[novel quest]

hive scum only squads on randoms are really sucking right now

[thorny ginkgo]

i mean like playing ganger with psyker and etc

[novel quest]

I think it's cuz nobody knows how to play him

but man

[thorny ginkgo]

i’m tired of playing with straight hobos

[dim wigeon]

I mean there's also the fact that besides chemist, defensively speaking their squishier than a cake

[lavish parrot]

Dude tell me about it

[ripe seal]

I feel like the ammo aura is pretty weak compared to scavenger but you can play so ammo efficient that you probably end up not needing to pick up ammo, it feels more for the team’s benefit than anything else

[abstract lichen]

Colt .45 a classic

[lavish parrot]

We had a train mission and I was alone at full hp