hivescum-class

[glad latch]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a07b326b-c940-493e-b3a9-91298891e1eb/dakka-dakka-dakka

@high gull You can path to chem toxin for the blackouts on a desperado build if you really want to.

[acoustic quail]

its not really a big enough explosion

[tepid cosmos]

if you bring smokes to my game im killing you it just makes using exe stance harder

[high gull]

Personally doing it to grief you

[tepid cosmos]

:3

[spare glen]

but you know i love smoking !!

[high gull]

I'm not complaining about that, like that's perfectly fine right.

[low harbor]

No, actually
Basically
Rampage -> stim -> rampage -> stim

I never intended to pop both at the same time

[high gull]

I'm talking about like

[low harbor]

Cuz rampage CD can’t tick while it’s running

[high gull]

Why would I choose chem nades over blackouts with the toxin node

[low harbor]

U use the stim to cut rampage’s downtime when it’s on CD

[high gull]

Granted in a high havoc enviorment

Like before y'all start typing

[tepid cosmos]

They fuck

like fuck real hard

[high gull]

Yeah so do blackouts

[glad latch]

Because chem nades are more powerful. Also doesn't the toxin node also work on chem nades making them even stronger.

[tepid cosmos]

not to the same degree at all

[novel oracle]

Its basically a tossup between super powerful for a while but needs nade pickups vs smaller bursts that regen over time (basically) but need 1 more point of investment

[high gull]

Maybe I should be a bit more clear right.

Like I'm talking about overall usefullness right

[compact oyster]

i genuinely think pocket toxin blackouts are better for a chemist build since they regen

[high gull]

I'm not trying to outright kil with toxin blackouts.

[acoustic quail]

if you want something to clear space rock the boom bringer

[novel oracle]

But you will a lot of the time by accident lmfao

[glad latch]

Yeah, sustainability vs raw power.

[high gull]

I'm just saying, having a "Hey stagger this" grenade that applies a dot while I'm killing stuff

[compact oyster]

chem bomb does sick nasty damage however

[novel oracle]

3 stacks kills horde enemjes

It used to be 5

[high gull]

[autumn raptor]

man rotten armour with this class gonna be tough

[compact oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/gustave-expedition33-clairobscur-clairobscurexpedition33-clair-gif-15640863854440752266

[tepid cosmos]

Chem nades are very liquidly so they spread real nice and can kill massive groups of everything outside of the biggest enemies, and the big enemies become easier to kill while in it

[woeful trellis]

so if you kill 20 enemies with pocket toxin blackout you immediately get it back?

[compact oyster]

yeah

[novel oracle]

The also reduce the enemies hitmass

[woeful trellis]

or do kills from tox dot not count towards it

[high gull]

Alright so I'ma go back to what I was saying before right.

[novel oracle]

This

[tepid cosmos]

Ye was including that in my second part

[high gull]

I'm not using them specifically to kill, the extra toxin dmg is nice just as a little bonus.

[acoustic quail]

mr e said sum about it
i think the instakill on crits also nullifies it

or was sum else

[glad latch]

Damn, chem grenade is just a better zealot fire grenade by the sounds of it

[high gull]

I'm just saying that in general. Being able to open up a horde and apply dots to weaker mobs while you're using like...a saw or something to deal with larger enemies.

[acoustic quail]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kh1FD2isKgc

this

[high gull]

Like you are about to get surrounded, pop a toxin blackout at your feet

Cool you cleared chaff and can now focus on the staggered carapace/flak

[novel oracle]

Theres times when you have chem and wish you had a blackout and vice versa

They both have their uses
I only use chems tho in havoc cuz I prefer what blackouts do more most of the time, with of without toxin

[high gull]

Would there be a specific reason to not always run toxin on blackouts?

[raw latch]

FOR THE GOD EMPEROR

[novel oracle]

Chem nades effect lasts way longer so you can use it at a choke and it fucks shit up for the next 3 business days

[high gull]

With the main drawback being if you misuse them, you're on nade box scouting duty.

Vs blackouts, you can be a bit more irresponsible due to regen.

[glad latch]

I do wish the rocket launcher had it's own upgrade nodes, like the option to have a frag rocket which has a bigger blast radius, inflicts less direct damage, but does bleed over a large area, kind of like a shredder grenade on crack.

[fast gust]

So better fire grenade

Poor zealot

[leaden lark]

Name a class that's not poor?

[fast gust]

Psyker maybe?

[leaden lark]

poor vet and poor ogryn

psyker and arbites maybe are doing fine

[fast gust]

Psyker could be pretty good cheating at cards

[hardy spruce]

not a single new staff since release

[high gull]

As the good lord intended

[compact oyster]

molten beam staff

[high gull]

@novel oracle When are you DM'ing Mr.FatShark about reverting chembox to old chembox

[last kelp]

what if dual laspistol

[lost ravine]

dual mini reconlas

[last kelp]

recon las is for losers who enjoy wasting everyone elses ammo

"oh no i used a single mag but am still at white ammo count, I better take a large ammo bag!"

meanwhile the ogryn gunner who was on red begins to cry

[lost ravine]

i just like briefly pointing it at things to apply burn

like burning ants with a magnifying glass

[last kelp]

i swear 99% of recon las users purposefully dont pick the "crits dont consume ammo" talent just so they can steal more ammo from the rest of the team

[nova juniper]

I find avoiding any talent that replenishes ammo makes me simply think more wisely about how my existing (and future) ammo should be used. THATS why I’m a VETERAN and all the other guardsmen are dead. Well, that and I took all the medstims and ammo before they could

[last kelp]

I respect a veteran who can at least admit it

[high gull]

https://tenor.com/view/confused-what-close-door-gif-14756544

[dire badge]

What's up my fellow hivescum. What lex breaking activities are we up to today?

[tepid cosmos]

I diverted a entire tithe list of ogryns to a mine I own dont tell the arbites

Good workers wasted in the guard

[dire badge]

No worries I will not. Say fellow lex breaker what's your full government name again? And let me snap a foto rq

[near mauve]

less than 24 hours fent enjoyers

[last kelp]

truly?

[near mauve]

ya

[dire badge]

The one day I have school, work and then DND back to back

[near mauve]

im gonna work until 1 am tomorrow so ill be playing it waaaaaaay later

[last kelp]

exactly how long until it drops?

[zealous ravine]

collect my pages

[near mauve]

i think someone said they release their updates at like 2pm in sweeden?

so that's like 24 hours from now i think

but i could be wrong

[last kelp]

but its already the 2nd where I am so I should get it now

STOP MAKING ME WAIT

[tender forge]

Ngl when I use recon las in aurics I dont think I ever pick up more than a single small ammo pack

[leaden lark]

about 29 hours

[grand jewel]

should be 24 hours 20 minutes

[last kelp]

One of the good ones

[tender forge]

I also dont use it often

Atm Im a dual barrel man

[high gull]

@tepid cosmos Buy me deluxe edition pls

[last kelp]

I pretty much stopped playing gunner ogryn because I kept getting matched with recon rats who would take large ammo bags while still on white ammo count and essentially cause my entire build to turn off

[near mauve]

bro's living in the future

[tender forge]

You would have had so much fun with unnerfed survivalist

I loved being there for my big man

[scenic viper]

Hivescum tomorrow

[lost ravine]

as a psyker i do not have that
but i do have other things

[neat delta]

Hive Gooner bouts be fire

[tepid cosmos]

go ask your sugar daddy not some twink you met in darktide

[zenith pagoda]

The DLC releases literally just before I go to work

Time to call in sick

[hallow raft]

https://tenor.com/view/call-in-sick-calling-in-sick-im-calling-in-sick-ferris-buellers-day-off-ferris-bueller-gif-12805919

[last kelp]

I do hope one day Hive Scum will get a light heavy stubber so I can lay down some lead like a mini gungryn

[hallow raft]

Arbites kit on table top includes heavy stubbers

[spice cloud]

Of course i dont thats a wasted point

[flat mist]

Me too man

I'll be a whole 12 hours behind if I go to work 😭

[tender forge]

Nah, you take it so you use less ammo

So you can then use an ammo pack to regain 10 ammo

[verbal orbit]

1 day until I can play my crazed Crackhead and have new class penances to work on again.

[indigo fractal]

unemployed + no school that day

[silver mural]

Cant wait to scum tomorrow

Class releases at like 10 or 11 for me it will be great

[alpine junco]

Class so high even my loading shit is tweaking, it was worse too

[formal valley]

so we're all scumming tomorrow yes?

[alpine junco]

never mind my entire computer is having a szeisure rn

[tepid cosmos]

You are real?

[formal valley]

how can anything be real when our eyes aren't real

[tepid cosmos]

My eyes give them back!!!

[sharp dune]

I am so close yet so far from completing the peanance pass 😔

[formal valley]

nuh uh

https://tenor.com/view/the-labyrinth-david-bowie-spheres-sad-gif-14173793

[alpine junco]

alright reset computer, no longer dying

[formal valley]

hooray

I do wonder

Arbitrators were broken crazy on launch

Scummers are less broken

does this mean we'll only see a few weeks of them in every lobby?

[zenith fern]

A month at least

[modest sorrel]

I felt like arbites purity fell off after a few days tbh

[verbal orbit]

I have 32 penances left to complete, one is get a million kills which I'm less than 100,000 away from, and kill 1500 scab plasma gunners, at 1300 or so. Rest are Havoc and The RNG mode.

[sharp dune]

Havoc penances are a pain

Never got past havoc 21 because I want to enjoy my video game

[last widget]

I expect so much whining about new class being glass cannon. Mostly from teammates who would need to deal with constantly dying scum.

[modest sorrel]

Guys do I get my prophetic clout now that we've seen gameplay?

[sharp dune]

It’s perfect that they are a glass canon after the walking wall arbites

[rapid mango]

free rescue/assist penance progress

[verbal orbit]

Lol

[sharp dune]

I am NEVER getting that achievement for 100 missions without downs

I am NEVER getting that achievement

[rapid mango]

lmao

[uneven jungle]

Slowly but surely

[sharp dune]

I’ve been at 65/100 for deadass months

[last widget]

You still have one day to make it.

[verbal orbit]

Yeah get that grind in. 35 missions is only 7 hours if you focus Train mission.

[sharp dune]

If it’s not progressing with non-scum classes I doubt it’ll make much difference 😔

[flat mist]

Bro has the predictive power of a "psychic" saying that a significant weather event will threaten North America in 20XX.

[sharp dune]

35 successful missions without shitty teammmates 🗣️

[zealous ravine]

full new class parties would happen no matter what class it is lol

[rapid mango]

ive seen full psyker squads wheres my award

full ogryn too

[verbal orbit]

Fatshark, let bots load as level 30 with random decent weapons and talent distributions and my life is yours. That or just let bots be the arbites dog instead.

[zealous ravine]

you get a bedebuge

[last widget]

Anyone else is annoyed by hivescum having serrated cleavers that seems to perform better than actual chainswords?

[past zealot]

random classes would be better than just veterans

[red dagger]

I wanted to make funny scum joke but Hadron said no

[abstract onyx]

Is there a ranged weapon option that isnt reliant on accuracy ?

[red dagger]

Shotguns?

[last widget]

You better to listen best waifu in the game.

[rapid mango]

no because chain swords and all chain weapons sound fucking atrocious on carapace so good riddance i say

[drowsy relic]

Give the vet bots voc

[red dagger]

I do, Omnissiah be praised

[zealous ravine]

they should guarantee 1 ogryn bot

[rapid mango]

also theres a ton of things that perform better than a chain sword anyway

[zealous ravine]

like a random knife

or pointy stick ds

[astral canyon]

annoyed? no
amused? definitely

[last widget]

Yes, but it is almost literally primitive rusty saw working better than a chainsaw.

[rapid mango]

easier to find the weak points in the armour i'd wager

[cursive mica]

I am annoyed simply because it's annoying to have the chainswords feel so bad and then this damn cleaver with the same kind of "do more" mode shows up and does shit better

[zealous ravine]

it also has poisons that explode people

and one that melts armor

[abstract onyx]

im terrible at accurate shooting neither im that good at melee so i either need murder stuff faster than it can kill or be durable

[zealous ravine]

just use dual autos and shoot in the general direction of the enemies

[abstract onyx]

So i should probably run a midrange build

[tender forge]

Im still wondering how good the vraks would be

Iag

[rapid mango]

ye same honestly

[zealous ravine]

yeah the game performance isnt great /s

[near mauve]

vraks deez nuts im running the new weapons

[red dagger]

Shotguns, flamethrower, braced veteran guns, psyker staffs

[tender forge]

I can imagine the ammo harvestor makes it way better

[near mauve]

no old weapons until i tried all of them

[tender forge]

Its a shame I dont really have the points to spec into it

[rapid mango]

just make different builds

youll need to anyway for penances

[near mauve]

imma be making 5 at least

love the tree

[zealous ravine]

hive jockey

[tepid cosmos]

is your chainsword constantly covered in flesh eating acid?

[iron patrol]

its covered in flesh eating blades

[rapid mango]

is it covered in armour-eating acid?

[spice cloud]

I can just…find ammo on the map id rather spend my points on something usefull

[flat mist]

Recon lasgun

[rapid mango]

better be faster than the oggys

[tepid cosmos]

But on the note of chainswords they actually feel pretty fun on hive scum

[iron patrol]

either these scum got their hands on moebian steel forging to make steel that doesnt melt to goop with acid more effective than a chainsaw or we are getting undervolted chainswords from hadron

[naive wing]

whats the purple acid meant to be? i noticed the hacksaw switches between green and purple, is purple just, stronger acid? thats the only thing that confused me from gameplay

[rapid mango]

she does think 60% efficiency is highly efficient, so

[drowsy relic]

Purple applies brittleness

[tepid cosmos]

Applies brittleness on hit

[naive wing]

i got two different answers at once

[tepid cosmos]

it’s brittleness

[rapid mango]

no apples is toxin on hit
grape is brittleness

[iron patrol]

@mental pollen YOU MOTHERFUCKER UNLOCK MY DAMN CHAINSWORD

[tepid cosmos]

Shushhhhh I can’t spell

[naive wing]

brittleness is pretty baller

[rapid mango]

god i want a friendly fire mode so badly

[zealous ravine]

i believe when saw is on purple mode it ddoes more armor dmg in general

[rapid mango]

let me run trenches where i can accuse my friend of heresy and shoot them with a laspistol

[flat mist]

Love how fatshark get to pretend scum has dual wield

[zealous ravine]

btw the purple is just grape juice the cultists are all just allergic

[flat mist]

The "dual wield" weapons are mechanically indistinct from single hand weapons

Arby: the dual wield class

[tribal bane]

Is it out yet?

Wait

[flat mist]

Yes

[unreal stirrup]

psyker upscale

[rapid mango]

23hr

[unreal stirrup]

31 stack of soulblaze on zealot

[naive wing]

im just glad to finally have a class that can have a poison/acid build/having poison status effect in general, its my usual go to on any game i play. i definitely want to try make poison busted

[tribal bane]

Yeah, forgot it comes out tomorrow

[tepid cosmos]

I’ve saw enough shit from you the last few days your going over the Morningstar railing

[tribal bane]

Gonna go back to sleep

[flat mist]

Yeah it came out about 23hrs ago

[tepid cosmos]

I do wonder if that countdowns wrong it’s such a weird time

[rapid mango]

im going by steams not ingames now

[tepid cosmos]

Arby released at usual slop shop time

[drowsy relic]

No it didn't it released hours later

I remember because everyone was mad!

[naive wing]

i also found it funny is they gave all the melee weapons for scum very distinct and interchangable altfires/modes, since theyre all rather basic/boring weapons. like most special moves or alt modes are temporary, but you can just leave the saw on purple, or leave the crowbar flipped. and giving the dual shivs a throwing knife alt, but making it different from zealots by making it shorter range with less pen

ive seen people say scum isnt very unique or flavorful but its gotten quite alot of unique stuff

more so than arby

[abstract onyx]

i played castigator stance a lot going ham with a shotgun was fun

[flat mist]

I only heard that before we actually knew anything about scum

[naive wing]

besides the dog and the hybrid ranged weapon everything else arby has, already existed in one form or another

[zealous ravine]

arbys fell off

[naive wing]

ive seen a few handfuls of "flavorless slop" comments under some gameplay vids

[astral canyon]

crowbar special is like swapping between two different weapon marks

[drowsy relic]

I mean they have the freedom to make more stuff so it tracks

[astral canyon]

its like if someone looked at the folding shovel specials and thought "what if the shovel, didnt unflip on a hit?"

[flat mist]

Apparently guy with a gun and guy with a medieval melee weapon and prayers is pure flavourtown to people

[compact oyster]

all hive scum melees are the most complex in the game

even more complex than vt2 weapons

[rapid mango]

cant forget the candles on the guy with medieval weapons and prayers. surely that helps

[compact oyster]

makes me hopeful for future weapons and marks

imagine a mode based thunder hammer

[last kelp]

taking all the unique stuff away like the guns and even the chems the way the class is built to perform itself is very unique

[flat mist]

Vet and zealots flavour is stealth[ed]

[last kelp]

I was already playing Veteran as close as you could possibly get it to general Hive Scum playstyle and I just cannot possibly perform as well as the class itself could

[compact oyster]

i like the concept of talents within a tree being very strong but they also come with a drawback

[tepid cosmos]

Ye you are right it released at 2pm same time as this is advertised to release just checked old pictures

[rapid mango]

i want to run trenches so badly

[flat mist]

I was watching one of Cole's videos and it felt a lot like how I play right side psyker with combat blade or tac axe

[rapid mango]

map looks like so much fun

[last kelp]

I would sacrifice several infant psykers to The Big E himself in exchange for this feature on shovel

[rapid mango]

about how long does the trenches take to complete? will it be similar to train, being only like 6 minutes long, or is it a bit of a longer operation?

[flat mist]

May you fall into the warp

[tepid cosmos]

It’s a short mission would argue it’s longer than train though

[last kelp]

Its more that Hive Scum does this by default you don't have to try and twist a class to that kind of playstyle. It already performs well and further excels when built on it.

[tepid cosmos]

Still very short but

Peak mission though

[rapid mango]

if it has no hard stops tbh thats to be expected

[last kelp]

Why? That's literally what the imperium does anyway.

How am I possibly the bad guy here?

[astral canyon]

by doing what the imperium does

[rapid mango]

i really hope so. only need 4 more operations to finish that 50 operations penance, hopefully theres more on the way for it

[flat mist]

How them boots taste

[last kelp]

Sorry I should have clarified how am I worse.

[astral canyon]

fair enough

[last kelp]

I wouldn't know, My Lady in Pink doesn't wear shoes, and all the better for it if I may add.

[flat mist]

I don't know; I don't think. I am an imperial guardsman.

[last kelp]

That's alright, just let Her think for you, keep doing what you do best, until you become perfect.

[last widget]

what if chainsword wouldn't stop chaining after one hit?

[abstract onyx]

ar the dual submaschine guns good if im aiming for a midrange build?

one of the reasons i suck at aiming is fact that my brain processes insane amounts of information at once so im like a mic without filters shorrterm it disrupts my focus longterm my senses kinda overload and where talking headaches and worse

more sensitive senses aint a blessing more of a curse

[jovial violet]

from the looks of it the subs are really good the closer you are

if you suck at aiming that should help then 🙂

[drowsy relic]

I'd say stub pistols

[jovial violet]

i rlly dont see how theyre good

[abstract onyx]

the weapons i use are often more supression weapons gunlugger ogy was also one of the classes i played alot

[rare grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/gun-spinning-elvis-presley-matthew-mcconaughey-agent-elvis-gun-twirling-gif-2088419326431227360

Gun Twirl

[last kelp]

I'd really like to use dual pistols over autos when I get into playing scum but im not sure they will perform as well for a full desperado build

[jovial violet]

ive only seen clips here and there of them but they look mid

[abstract onyx]

im set on the gender of my hivescum bbut not on the voicelines any recommendations?

[last kelp]

For one thing dual pistols dont seem to benefit from the extended mag desperado seems to give full auto weapons

[jovial violet]

why not just use ol faithful and one tap everything

[indigo fractal]

how can you say that after seeing the spin?

[last kelp]

which gender?

[abstract onyx]

Probably female

[jovial violet]

indeed theyre cool lmao

[last kelp]

Personally I'm going anarchist but depends if you wanna sound completely deranged or not

[flat mist]

Desperado and dual ranged could maybe help you. Just hold down lmb and point at anything highlighted. Reload and repeat forever.

[abstract onyx]

now we need necromunda as playable map

[last kelp]

I'm not sure how well dual pistols will be with desperado without a tweak that sets them to automatic for the duration cause the semiauto is gonna suck

[jovial violet]

prob use full auto mod to make them monsters tbh

[bronze glade]

Could just use mods

[last kelp]

dual pistols are definitely the style point pick though

[dreamy rover]

Are servers gonna get funny tomorrow?

[rapid mango]

i just gotta figure out which gun goes with which melee (1911's, needlpistol) (shivs, crowbar)... probably needlepistol with crowbar

[last kelp]

it really just comes down to how fast they can fire with desperado and a full AS-Stimm, if its within a feasable clicking range that's fine

[indigo fractal]

or, maybe, gun customization
please fatshark, gunsmith with 50lvls of worthless attachments

[last kelp]

I think its more down to the general build, needlepistol seems to synergise really well with a melee focused build

[rapid mango]

well ye but crowbar seems the better geared one for that than shivs, personally

[abstract onyx]

my issues aside i never really enjoyed longrange sniping in any game

[rapid mango]

needle pistol for quick special snipes, while with shivs i can use the throwable

[jovial violet]

needler and the butcher will go hard

applying 2 differnt debuffs is nice

[rapid mango]

also valid

lots to test

[jovial violet]

indeeeeeed

[last kelp]

I've also heard that the blinding grenades can be modded to apply chem? big if true?

[flat mist]

Mods

[rapid mango]

i was told 1911's unlock at lvl 10 so i'll at least get there quick with 2 aurics

[bronze glade]

yeah there's a talent for that

[jovial violet]

ya those grenades are so nice

horde on top of you? gone

[last kelp]

ive never used any mods for this game

[flat mist]

You're missing out

[spice cloud]

Are u guys playtesting or is that all from watching streams?

[bronze glade]

the talent tree is out

[unreal stirrup]

man rhe fucking class can't come out soon enough

[bronze glade]

and kuli has a guide out too

[last kelp]

idk man ive never been one for modding multiplayer games

[flat mist]

Full auto is a game changer

[jovial violet]

eh to each there own, mods come with there own bs having to deal with

[unreal stirrup]

i need to cook

[unreal stirrup]

skitarius tbh

[spice cloud]

I try not to spoiler myself too much

[flat mist]

It's not pvp. It doesn't matter.

[abstract onyx]

i often use mods that reduce clutter in games and well Quality of life mods

[last kelp]

hmm perhaps but I also get quite frustrated when a game requires mods to be more functional/accessable

[rapid mango]

i will say, genuine QOL mods like Guarenteed weapon swap (fixes the button to always work instead of ignoring input sometimes because its feeling quirky), would be my suggestions honestly, if you ever did want to try modding

[flat mist]

Quality assurance mods?

[last kelp]

its one of the reasons I stopped playing WoW

[spice cloud]

It doesnt

[jovial violet]

i loveee health bars tho, and twith the new dot dmg itll be a must have for me

[spice cloud]

Its a skill issue

[unreal stirrup]

darktide is one of the game where essentially information is literally not available to you without mod

[dim moth]

Yeah darktide doesn't really need mods

[flat mist]

That's a completely difference situation

[dim moth]

but I am not playing this fucking game without guarantee weapon swap mod at least

[unreal stirrup]

literally don't get cooldown timer without mod

[dim moth]

because that shit has killed me so many times before I started using it

[spice cloud]

That is true but mods are not required to be good

[last kelp]

I play the game quite well I was merely saying that I feel dual pistols are going to be a bit annoying to work with desperado/attack speed stimm combo due to the clicking.

[bronze glade]

skill issue 🙂‍↕️

[abstract onyx]

i often need to reduce the info a game displays and not many give me the option to do so hence mods

[spice cloud]

Darktide dors the opposite lol

No information for u

[last kelp]

I actually got back into WoW when classic was in its hayday and people were legitimately calling me insane for not using a single mod at all.

[spice cloud]

Idk i think its normal not to

[rapid mango]

disable screen effects mod letting me remove the "youre on your last wound" filter stopped some of the headaches as well, marty not as annoying anymore

[last kelp]

Not with WoW it isnt.

[jovial violet]

kinda are lmao

[abstract onyx]

i cant even play wow without addons without my head hurting after a hour

[spice cloud]

I think a game should be good without mods and not rely on it wo much

Mods should just be a bonus kinda

[jovial violet]

should but devs dont listen

[rapid mango]

there is some core mod things tho that 100% should be base, and some things FS are doing

[last kelp]

Again thats why I quit WoW, you can no longer just play the game without mods. Doesn't matter how good you are especially in PvP you will be out performed by people who are stacked with mods.

[rapid mango]

dodge counter prime example

[spice cloud]

True like the dodge counter

[rapid mango]

changing blitz/ability within a tree without needing to remake the whole thing

[spice cloud]

That was a nice addition

[jovial violet]

absolutely wow pvp you HAVE to have cc timer blah blah

[unreal stirrup]

isn't dodge counter base game now

[spice cloud]

Yes

[rapid mango]

thats what we mean

[spice cloud]

Thats what i mesn

[rare grotto]

after years of waiting

[dim moth]

and it's WRONG in game too because naturally

dodge counter is always one less effective dodge than you actually have xd

[rare grotto]

it's like 1 less than actual

[unreal stirrup]

Idk

[spice cloud]

Fr i still use numeric

[last kelp]

I've always been a firm believer that at LEAST Arena should have disabled all mods and be based purely off skill.

[unreal stirrup]

they did change every weapon dodge counter by -1

in stat

[spice cloud]

But hey atleast they try it

[flat mist]

I think there shouldn't be war, paedophiles, or plant-based bacon, but we have to deal with the reality we actually live in not the one we want

[jovial violet]

that would be epic

[abstract onyx]

devs often neglect quality of life and accessibility options if was me certain acessability options should just be mandatory for any game

[spice cloud]

No this is a game not reality u can change it

Theres a lot of good games with even better mods

[flat mist]

Yes, if you put in work, sometimes surprisingly little, reality changes!

[last kelp]

Ability timer and stuff would be easy to implement just by having a semicircle or something that goes under your crosshair that shrinks

[flat mist]

Getting upset that the creator didn't make it the way you want doesn't help though.

[spice cloud]

Thats not what i mean

[abstract onyx]

So time for foodprep 2h of kitchenwork awaits

[spice cloud]

I just wouldnt buy it if i dont like it

[last kelp]

I think its acceptable to be disgruntled when a developer doesnt at least try to cater to something that the overwhelming majority of the playerbase agrees on

[flat mist]

I know I'm just running off into the distance with this analogy

[flat mist]

God won't even try and stop women having periods

[spice cloud]

Well god can be a dick sometimes

[flat mist]

(I'm a feminist )

[last kelp]

That is a terrible comparison as there is solid evidence of fatshark actually existing and actually being able to directly impact the game.

[spice cloud]

He also made us lynch his only son so

[flat mist]

Bruh I'm not being serious

So unserious I didn't even read your message

My bad. Bedtime

[last kelp]

[dire badge]

soulglit scan or strike down lads? keep in mind crushers are my biggest enemy

[unreal osprey]

how are people infected by a literally nurgle plague in any way hurt by hive scums normal toxins

[zealous ravine]

fent

[bronze glade]

wtf is lex talk doing here

and soulguilt scan is nearly mandatory

[dire badge]

my bad gents

also where the fuck is crushers weakspot? I swear im hitting their head but no orange funny mark

[zealous ravine]

thats a COP get them!!!!!

[bronze glade]

head is right

[rapid mango]

its not a disease its a poison

[unreal osprey]

head, orange mark is crit not weak spot

[rapid mango]

it do be the face

[unreal osprey]

weakspot is double hitmarker

[rose flax]

Hey guys, does darktide crit Chance work the same as vermintide 2, where every non crit adds more crit Chance to your current base crit until you finally crit?

[echo python]

Well-known fact that the more diseases you have the more immunity you gain to acid and neurotoxins

[dire badge]

thanks guys

[bronze glade]

outside of the headhunter blessing, i can't think of anything else

[rose flax]

Yeah it probably doesn't
Same thing with Ults cool down not decreasing when taking DMG/dealing DMG(by default), since darktide has(mostly)much shorter cool downs

For a while I honestly thought they did decrease the same as vermintide

[main trellis]

What weapon?

[dire badge]

Shield and mace. The mark that does more dmg. I like the attack pattern better

[main trellis]

Strike down then

[dire badge]

(I don't use the rending blessing)

[dire badge]

How come?

[main trellis]

You should

[main trellis]

Bad adm vs cara; with strike down & opportunist you get 1.0 adm on every attack

[dire badge]

It's won't be stronger than 25% electrication though. And the other one is perfect block biff. My whole build I'd around perfect blocks

[main trellis]

Electrification is nice but after testing its better to have opportunist due to 1 reason
Enemies outside ogryns gets staggered to death
Also you should use hammerblow

[main trellis]

Very meme to run a perfect block build

[unreal stirrup]

bro is playing vermintide 2

[dire badge]

I've been doing 32 havocs with it. Only take one perfect block talent and the blessing but I go for them all the time and I'm just a fuckin machine

[dire badge]

You understand the vision

[unreal stirrup]

yeah yeah what about uptime

genuinely

[rapid mango]

32 havocs and dont know crushers weakspot is the head!?

[dire badge]

Well everytime I get stuck in I proc it whenever I hear the dodge counter

[main trellis]

I take none cause i don’t need to block when i put the enemy on the ground

[dire badge]

I WAS SURE IT WAS THE HEAD BUT I THOUGHT ORANGE MARK WAS WEAKSPOT HIT

Thought weapon animation was fuckjg me

[rose flax]

Agile blessing going to be insane on hive scum lol

[main trellis]

Orange is crit
Yellow is weakspot
White is body

[dire badge]

But more dmg. But yeah it's not Meta but it works fine even in higher havocs.

[rapid mango]

doubleline is weakspot no?

[main trellis]

You gain some yes but its tied to a gimmick that you may fkup
Better be more safe - shield & maul is more CC than dmg despite being able to achieve perfect 1.0 adm vs everything

[main trellis]

Ooo did not payed attention to that; might be - try on other enemies

[rapid mango]

will do captain

[main trellis]

Looks like it is

We learning gud tonight bois

[dire badge]

I live my life on the edge for da emperah if it means I can do more dmg to the heretic. (Also the fantasy of parrying/countering hass always been my favorite way to fight)

[main trellis]

[main trellis]

Fair; just be aware that there are better options for such a weapon

[rapid mango]

also its red for a kill shot, same double line for a weakspot kill

do wish it was a little more obvious but thats good to know for sure for talents requiring such kills

[main trellis]

For an ADHD special boi like me i will pay attention to that more now since i know of it

[compact oyster]

weakspot hits used to be an orange hitmarker with crits yellow

really annoying that they changed this

[rapid mango]

mood

tho knowing me

ill forget immediately

then suddenly hyperfocus on it midfight and die

its like my stuck pixel

i have one single stuck pixel, i usually dont notice it, but then i do and i cant play anymore, total skissue the whole game until i can ignore it again

||why couldnt it have been off in a corner or the edge of the screen, why between the center and the top, slightly to the left||

[main trellis]

Old monitor?

[rapid mango]

nope

got it less than a year ago, came like this

[main trellis]

🤔

Flawed product

[unreal stirrup]

how do you NOT notice ts

[main trellis]

I even did not man

[unreal stirrup]

blind mfs

[rapid mango]

yeah but our options were get stuck in a potential loop of new monitor, testing it, finding out its the same one, sending it back, wasnt interesting, and the sale was over by the time we got it so refunding and buying a different but similar monitor was just not worth the effort

[rapid mango]

by not staring at the crosshair all the time

i only look at the crosshair if im actively hipfiring something or using a zealot knife/assail

[main trellis]

Well atleast now it is serving as a test for you to be better at not being distracted

[rapid mango]

true that

its not great for not getting irritated easier thats for sure

i so badly wish it was a dead pixel instead

theres one dead pixel, and i have to actually put an image of a single colour on the screen to even have a chance to find it

absolutely no effect on my gaming

like, i THINK its kinda where the melee weapon is ingame hud, but, i literally could not point it out

[stiff compass]

ONE DAY!!!

[rapid mango]

21 hours

[north meteor]

can't wait to push Havoc 40 with Hive Scum

[north saddle]

@main trellis Teodor will host as arbites for smurfing/powerleveling hive ganger at 15:30 German time tmr. I hereby invite you to join him and me If you so desire. Bring a friend of your own choosing If you'd like

[north saddle]

You will be greeted by stimms, rotten armor and demonic rituals on lights out gloriana

[wanton prawn]

How do you power level? You can't do Havoc until your character reaches max level right? At that point it doesn't matter?

[north saddle]

Cant wait to try out the double 1911's. Time to cosplay as an american schoolshooter

[rapid mango]

do aurics

auric will put lvl1 to lvl 7 easy

bonus if theres other objectives (scripture/grims) that get completed, and if you do it via QP for even more xp

theres also the twin skip thing

[north saddle]

One guy (preferably one that doesnt wanna play/buy hive ganger, hosts (as whatever, arbites, Veteran, zealot, doesnt matter). The host choses auric damnation or auric maelstrom. The entire Team gets the XP and power levels

[wanton prawn]

I see

[north saddle]

Not without mods ever since the orthus offense got the silent treatment by fatshark last update

[wanton prawn]

You can stll do the orthus, just open the story mission screen

[north saddle]

There is a dedicated Story mission screen?

[rapid mango]

wdym

[rapid mango]

yeah in the terminal

[north saddle]

I only ever play normal auric damnation quickplay

[wanton prawn]

The correct way to play

[north saddle]

Mustve missed it lmao

[rapid mango]

well, its just auric too, no auric damnation anymore :p

[main trellis]

Thats cool but i will be working then so i’ll have to pass

[tribal bane]

would this be an at all decent build?

[trim wind]

we'll find out starting tomorrow!

[tribal bane]

I feel it would be semi viable, but I doubt it'd be any use in higher tier missions like upper havoc or auric

[clear shard]

huh

chat is already here

[north meteor]

[tribal bane]

this is the stimm i'm prolly gonna use

because I am going to be on a constant rampage

[tribal bane]

wait, nvm, swap out maxed out chems for toxic renweal

[fading sun]

problem with cooldown stimm is that it doesnt do anything while rampage is active

or any of the scum ults really

[tribal bane]

my goal is to be on a constant rampage, after rampage ends, pop the stimm for rampage to come back, repeat

[fading sun]

yeah thats fair

[echo python]

If you're going for chemist keystone, it does keep dependency up

[fading sun]

i was thinking the same but only traking the cooldown nodes

[echo python]

so potential crit chance

[fading sun]

so the stimm has liek a 45 second CD

and then i can take the 4 stacks of dependancy

cos adrenaline keystone seems kinda mid

[echo python]

You could probably get away with a higher cooldown stimm if you also take the uuuuuuh stimms collector talent or whatever it's named

[fading sun]

yeah

im gonna try a lot of stuff

gonna go bonesaw + needler first and do warcrimes

[tribal bane]

i'm gonna be doing crowbar and needler

just because needle takes care of any pesky snipers

and the rest can be ripped appart

[north saddle]

Ah, no worries, we'll be online way into the evening/night and also be online the comming day.

We'll just ask someone else

[quiet condor]

every class should have their own stim type tree, this is holy power creep

[rotund orchid]

is it tho ? the cooldown seems pretty long if you want any of the bigger effects

[brittle sierra]

Nope they patched that

When you use the medi pack it consumes a stimm

If you do not have a stimm in the inventory it doesn't release the buff

[tribal bane]

isn't that also a bug?

idk

[reef spoke]

No, it's just done in an annoying way

As you don't get dependency stacks from what I hear

[brittle sierra]

No it's intentional

The bug is you don't get a dependency stack when you use the crate

[unreal stirrup]

combat blade + stim + dependency

you can play as an birmingham citizen

[tribal bane]

why not the shivs for even more knives?

[tribal bane]

on top of the base two you get three throwing knives

[brittle sierra]

We will need to try out shivs

But the biggest problem I see is that uncanny doesn't stack as high than CB

[tribal bane]

and the throwing knives stack chem tox

[bronze glade]

Not sure if it actually matters unless you run bleed shiv I guess

[unreal stirrup]

iirc shiv have toxin on their attack?

[brittle sierra]

Uncanny may effect toxin damage

[unreal stirrup]

so maybe maximizing toxin is the way to go

[brittle sierra]

Regardless I am not using knives at all with toxin builds anyways

[tribal bane]

the throwing knives have toxin

[unreal stirrup]

meh

[brittle sierra]

Cleaver seems to be the way to go

[trim wind]

rending doesn't do much for toxin

[tribal bane]

for toxin stacking, cleaver 100%

[tender forge]

You get knives back on kill

[brittle sierra]

Also shock and awe sounds absolutely broken in havoc

[spark gyro]

What would be considered the dsword with this class?

[unreal stirrup]

its just wrath but 150% instead of 200%

[plush cove]

probably dual shivs? cuz I think ppl gonna be running that a lot for the throwing knives?

maybe

[unreal stirrup]

and activate on kill

[tribal bane]

I have an irrational hatred of the dsword

[plush cove]

same lol

[brittle sierra]

The mass of enemies changes depending on the havoc rank

[spark gyro]

You also have combat knife too but don't know if that's better then shivs

[bronze glade]

Not much due to toxin ADM tbf

It’s not like bleed

Which really likes rending

[plush cove]

eh dual shivs is way cooler and got a nice special

but who knows

[unreal stirrup]

I mean -60% hitmass is 150% extra cleave

[brittle sierra]

In default game modes

Not in havoc

Well at least in execution of how cleave works

So 150% cleave doesn't work the same in a havoc 40 of how many enemies it hits

[restive mortar]

What time does the update drop tomorrow
I'll probably be in classes no matter what just curious

[plush cove]

I used to use Shock and Awe on Havoc 40 alot for Thammer, it's a great blessing, surprised no other melees have it yet.

now it does so great

[trim wind]

it is awful on hammer

[woeful hill]

7PM CET was the nda drop but probably same time but up to change

[plush cove]

back before the class changes and a bunch of Moebian 21st, it was not bad, you could cleave through gazillion bunch of Moebians with it.

but now it's not worth

Im talking H40

where chaff enemies got insane hitmass

[unreal stirrup]

I mean headtaker + thrust is pretty much the only blessing

iirc strength also affect cleave

but that might be vt2 thing

[lavish forge]

Cant believe that bounty hunter and loose cannon are lesbaisns

[patent bone]

I can

[trim wind]

str gives cleave yes

[plush cove]

headtaker does affect cleave, but it wasn't as good as shock and awe, still sth tho.

[patent bone]

"Sesbian Lex in Darktide? Warhammer is WOKE!!!" -some Twitter user

[plush cove]

back be4 the enemy health increases, breakpoints were a lot more loose, so you honestly didn't need ALL the dmg stuff back then

[lavish forge]

Me too

[lavish forge]

FOR THE SESBIAN LEX

[plush cove]

given the general consensus on Hive Scum has gotten quite a lot better, I hope the steam reviews for the class won't be too negatively biased not relating to the class itself.

but then ig who cares

[unreal stirrup]

I mean the class reveal trailer fucking suck

when you actually have competent people doing the showcase it different

[patent bone]

^

I just hope the release trailer will be a banger

[plush cove]

true enough

[patent bone]

And I can't wait to use my dual stubbies

[glossy niche]

They couldn't even be bothered to show any of the interesting stuff the scum has

[bronze glade]

Drugs bad

[glossy niche]

Okay but like

It also has a missile launcher

[patent bone]

Honestly the Intro Cinematic should've been the reveal trailer

[idle mesa]

I misread that has L-sb--n S-x

[tribal bane]

also, would like to point out people said the same thing about the arbites

[lavish forge]

Me after someone cuts off my hands

[amber sundial]

I mean, the dog and stims are just the class passives

vet has suppression immunity
zealot has
Psyker has peril
Ogryn has tank passive

[tribal bane]

zealot has zealotry

it may not have any impact gameplay wise, but it's there

[glad latch]

Zealot has Until Death

[rotund obsidian]

I hate how the Xbox app version can't preorder it

[obsidian crown]

Guessing the boomstick ammo is a grenade pickup?

[amber sundial]

nobody can

[fast surge]

Well until death comes from the talent tree now, it's not really a class passive

[tribal bane]

because xbox is going down the drain

[rotund obsidian]

Always has been

[tribal bane]

and microsoft is personally sponsering it's death

[glad latch]

Why would you pre-order an unlimited supply DLC?

[trim wind]

nobody can preorder it

[rotund obsidian]

Because hype

[spark gyro]

You mean wishlist

Playstation and Xbox never let's you do that

Only with games

[rotund obsidian]

Deluxe edition is like 15 or something right? Compared to the 10

[spark gyro]

15 yea

Same as Arb

[rotund obsidian]

Yeah

[plush cove]

hvie scum's deluxe doesnt have anything i like so i'ma just buy base

[rotund obsidian]

At least its relatively cheap tho

[glad latch]

I am just going to get the normal one, the deluxe skins don't interest me like the arby ones did.

[trim wind]

the duster is nice, that's about it

[rotund obsidian]

Fr, the cosmetics are a bit mid but the voicelines and weapons are lit

[tribal bane]

you don't want a sick ass trenchcoat?

[spark gyro]

The only good cosmetics are the ones you earn

For scum

[plush cove]

not really, trenchcoats aint my thing lol

[wild anchor]

No point in playing the game on dlc release day cause the amount of people will lag the servers again

[plush cove]

plus it's green

[tribal bane]

well, ig for an anarchistic hive ganger, they wouldn't wear anything fancy

[rotund obsidian]

Same as arby with the sick ass red uniform

[tribal bane]

like the show, i'm getting it

[tribal bane]

I like the delux's chestplate and cape

[plush cove]

I need my red, I'm going for iron riders

[arctic imp]

More clothes is better

[tribal bane]

then the gas mask

[plush cove]

tbh, not too big of a fan of helmets that cover the entire head

[tribal bane]

gonna be honest, i'm mostly getting it for the gas mask

[arctic imp]

Arbites want a word

[tribal bane]

https://tenor.com/view/side-eye-gif-4102965325000173523

[rotund obsidian]

Have we actually seen the earnable cosmetics for hive yet?

[tribal bane]

yuup

[arctic imp]

Yes

[plush cove]

I like me halfmasks

[rotund obsidian]

Got a link?

[arctic imp]

but the coat is drippy

[plush cove]

yeah i guess it depends on the class lol

[livid raven]

looks ugly to me

[spark gyro]

Too bad we'll never get this for Arb

[tribal bane]

i only like half masks when it comes to a bandana on ogryn or covering the psyker's eyes

[arctic imp]

😱

[arctic imp]

Gah damn

[plush cove]

I like halfmasks when it comes to zealots, on veteran i liek full helms

[rotund obsidian]

Horny arbites when FS

[amber sundial]

coat would be cooler without the shoulder spikes imo

[patent bone]

Ngl, the Hive Scums unlockable drip looks sick af already

[tribal bane]

tempestus scion helmet

[versed spruce]

You cretins better not lag the servers tomorrow, I have the day off to enjoy Darktide all day

[patent bone]

I love half naked outfits

[plush cove]

true, the gang colors and all are dope

[tribal bane]

idk, i like the glowey eyes on the gasmask more than the trenchcoat

[patent bone]

Tread Lightlies are the best

[tribal bane]

the show

GOTTA HAVE ALL DA GOLD IN THE WORLD

[patent bone]

Nuh uh

[arctic imp]

This is what I see keep popping up on my recommended, it’s what I watched but I also know I have seen other people post images and such. https://youtu.be/0AgaTBQ0apg?si=WnZGvhM3iLP9HM4Y

[tribal bane]

https://tenor.com/view/austin-powers-i-love-gold-goldmember-gif-19735343

[tribal bane]

yuh huh you blue git

may be a deffskullz but dat luck didn't save a deffskullz warboss from ghazkull

[patent bone]

Better Blue than to dress up like a golden painted tart

[tribal bane]

when he first woke up from surgery mind you

[spark gyro]

Closes we got is gimp mask

[arctic imp]

The earnable cosmetics are pretty much just more heretical looking ganger stuff that gets angrier and has different cartel colors

[tribal bane]

take that back

[arctic imp]

😱

[patent bone]

They're honestly not THAT heretical

Just shirtless

Which I'm into

[arctic imp]

Spiky = heretic

Don’t be a spiky boy

[tribal bane]

what about the orks?

they get spikes everywhere

[arctic imp]

Good example

[tribal bane]

so too do the drukari

[arctic imp]

Even better example

[tribal bane]

and the tyranids

[spark gyro]

FS really getting allowed to do shirtless stuff now which is funny, first the scum cosmetics and now the Ogryn twitch drop lol

[arctic imp]

Makes me hungry

Uh

for more

[low zenith]

The ogryn had that shirt but in a different color in the files since launch

[tribal bane]

I just need them to reskin those damn gloves to be leather

fugly ass colorscheme

[spark gyro]

Yea

[arctic imp]

they glow?

[tribal bane]

https://tenor.com/view/jack-nicholson-jack-nicholson-yes-yes-nod-head-nod-gif-17444176260167585294

[spark gyro]

Now just give us the option to take off the torso armor

[arctic imp]

what if that’s just

[tribal bane]

DO NOT

[arctic imp]

Very bright coloring

[tribal bane]

FINISH

[unique rose]

what time tomorrow does hive scum release?

[tribal bane]

FUCK]

[echo python]

Only thing I want from the deluxe edition is the trenchcoat, so I'm probably just going to wait for something in the commodore's instead

[arctic imp]

😱

[echo python]

Not like the deluxe edition is going anywhere

[tribal bane]

OGRYN WELDING MASK GLOW

FUNI HAVOC HELMET GLOWS

[arctic imp]

😱

[tribal bane]

IT GLOW

I WILL NOT BE HEARING OTHERWISE

[arctic imp]

I agree I agree I agree

[amber sundial]

havoc gear for arbite and hivescum when

[arctic imp]

One is above the 53rd

the other is beneath it

[tribal bane]

arbites gets a dominatrix outfit and hive scum gets a gimp suit

[arctic imp]

Where is your mind

[tribal bane]

and the dominatrix outfit is for male and female

[amber sundial]

not what I asked

[boreal sentinel]

Arby would not top

[amber sundial]

I want actual cool havoc gear

[tribal bane]

https://tenor.com/view/gutter-mind-in-the-gutter-gif-16633128846622838147

[arctic imp]

You don’t like the 53rd? But it IS the havoc gear

[tribal bane]

you don't have to top to be the dominant one

[amber sundial]

I was referring to the dom suit comment

[arctic imp]

Oh I think that’d be cool

you’re the minority

[amber sundial]

[main trellis]

i would like the cloak

[arctic imp]

what cloak

[tribal bane]

https://tenor.com/view/cloaker-gif-3780465210148893928

this is why i want the mask

[arctic imp]

But what if

[tribal bane]

https://tenor.com/view/shut-up-shush-shh-ok-bird-gif-17679708

[main trellis]

i mean just look at it... with your special eyes

[arctic imp]

Special?

Oh gosh

https://tenor.com/view/goofy-movie-blush-gif-17553823346583229377

[tribal bane]

you mean the trenchcoat?

[arctic imp]

https://tenor.com/view/run-away-dracula-flee-cape-nick-mohammed-gif-2191807256634609772

[tribal bane]

wait, is it trench coats that stave off wetness or is it greatcoats?

oh no

[main trellis]

both

[tribal bane]

i am become ogryn

[frigid thorn]

Anyone have a build that would be good for leveling tomorrow?

[arctic imp]

The build that makes you comfortable on the class you won’t be experienced with

[main trellis]

yes there is 1 universal one
Skill

[livid raven]

ehrm

[tribal bane]

in ww 1 and 2 there were definantly differences

[livid raven]

how do you have a build for levelling when you are levelling for the build

[arctic imp]

Exactly

[tribal bane]

https://tenor.com/view/darktide-ogryn-bernie-gif-27192884

[livid raven]

do this: each level, put talent points in whatever sounds nice

[frigid thorn]

lol

[tribal bane]

and make the most fuckass build imaginable

[arctic imp]

Just use what you feel like feels good and comfortable for you to use @frigid thorn people generally say that skill is important more on this class than anything else, so you’ll have to figure out what you’re capable of on it yourself

[frigid thorn]

Sounds good lol.

[woeful hill]

I got a good build

[livid raven]

realistically, you are going to play uprising/heresy/damnation for like

at least 20 levels

[arctic imp]

Unless you get carried

I’m open to that

[arctic imp]

Anybody that won’t be playing hive scum

[tribal bane]

he is the middle of the aisle

[nova juniper]

The cock and balls build

[frigid thorn]

I was more wondering which skill tree felt nicer during that leveling slog

[woeful hill]

I call it "The Spear"

[frigid thorn]

I'm gonna run that build

[tribal bane]

brother is so far middle his melee swings one shot plague ogryns

[arctic imp]

I’m willing to bet the ranged one. Rampage seems to lure people into a false sense of security

[frigid thorn]

Makes sense lol

[arctic imp]

You can still get absolutely demolished immediately in rampage

[frigid thorn]

Yeah, isn't the hive scum kind of squishy?

[tribal bane]

desperado if you want to just not take ranged damage, rampage if you want to break entire hoards with a crowbar

[arctic imp]

Yes, regaining toughness is hard

[frigid thorn]

I saw someone arguing it had a LOT of toughness regen but they listed a bunch of super niche skills that weren't on demand

[nova juniper]

Mod to chance the rage voice lines
||THIS IS WHAT WE CALL A DIFFICULTY TWEAK||

[tribal bane]

and just don't use the stim crate

[tribal bane]

YES

[frigid thorn]

Class looks super fun though

[arctic imp]

They have toughness regen nodes, but the price of usage is a higher entry than almost any other class. Arbites for instance can smack things and regain full in just a moment

[frigid thorn]

Yeah that's what I was thinking too.

A lot of them seem pretty conditional, like have your toughness break or something

[arctic imp]

You get the 5 from just being near dog, 10 from staggering, 5 from kills, some more if you have the stamina usage regens toughness node, it ends up being a lot per second. Hive scum isn’t the same at all

[frigid thorn]

yeah

[arctic imp]

And see that one is an emergency node. It may be good while we’re still learning

And good for havoc

[frigid thorn]

My first mistake was reading the darktide subreddit, just was confused when this guy said that they had a ton of toughenss regen so it would POWERCREEP VET despite the fact he listed a bunch of like....pretty conditional skills.

😂

and yeah, it seems good as an emergency node, but not for sustain

[arctic imp]

Reddit is currently full of a bunch of people that think the class will be OP on arrival, and maybe they’re right. But you can’t escape that the class is a glass cannon and they did a good job of ensuring that your skill will be necessary to survive

I saw someone playing it like zealot the other day and they just kept getting downed.

[frigid thorn]

yeah, that's the part that got me, the people denying it would be a glass cannon lol

I'm sure the damage output on the class will be crazy but nothing wrong with that if they can't take a hit

[arctic imp]

I think it will be nice. Arbites had so much forgiveness. Even one tap protection with true grit. Hive scum is* the polar opposite

[frigid thorn]

seems super fun honestly having opposites

i can't wait lol

[idle mesa]

Alright guys, because I have a smooth brain, and cannot get better at this game, and also because the Arbitrator class has been nerfed, what is the next broken build that I should try next?

[arctic imp]

Arbites is still very good

Capable of consistent damage on everything with survivability

That being said, what else have you tried?

[frigid thorn]

oh yeah i found one of them lol

just seems to me all of them are very conditional instead of just "hit someone and you toughness regends to full"

[high gull]

The obvious worst part about all of this are the god awful players that are going to try to play it like a unkillable meat spondge

And when they play floor kissing sim too long

They're gonna go back to reddit and call the class weak

Something of note to remember is, the average darktide player is horribly awful at the game.

[frigid thorn]

yes lmao

just playing a few matches confirms this

[idle mesa]

Yeah, that is me, I am a that player, please help me!

[high gull]

https://tenor.com/view/no-i-dont-think-i-will-captain-america-old-capt-gif-17162888

[tribal bane]

https://tenor.com/view/like-me-gregory-brown-asapscience-same-as-me-it-represents-me-gif-21149422

[silver mural]

What do you consider awful ;-;

[glossy niche]

Mfw the random crack addict with a sharpened screwdriver doesn't survive sustained machine gun fire

[high gull]

Lack of spacial awareness.

Brother I play games borderline deaf.

[silver mural]

You should try hearing or smth idk

[high gull]

There's no reason I should be able to discern my enviorment better than people with headphones

[unreal stirrup]

tbf i get confused easily when im just started

[idle mesa]

Good question.

I have tried pysker, veteran, ogryn, zealot, and arbitrator. The other builds i struggled on because blocking and dodge and moving is difficult for me. Arbitrator felt the most forgiving for me.

[silver mural]

Today i learned im no longer an only child

[unreal stirrup]

the game don't really help with the level design

[tepid cosmos]

Arby is still really strong everyone prancing around screaming nerf when it was hardly touched and got some heavy handed buffs the second time it was “nerfed”

[unreal stirrup]

arby is literally 95% untouched

[azure mist]

Arby is still very much beginner friendly

[high gull]

Arby doesn't one shot monstrosities

Weak class

Pls buff

[tender forge]

For any class you are going to have to learn that

[azure mist]

Ogryn I’d say would be second next to Zealot

[tepid cosmos]

The bolter build I use still drops slugs in like 5 seconds

And that is so dumb lol

[tender forge]

Zealot forces you to learn how to dodge

Ogryn teaches stagger

[high gull]

I forgot you're a exe stance gamer ain't you

[unreal stirrup]

not really

[split fiber]

#🐦tweets-sermons message

it's peak

[arctic imp]

I would use arbites mace and shield. I would run 20% block efficiency on it. I would also consider maining a tank build with just about all of the toughness regen nodes, even dog if you’re using it. In fact if you don’t like dodging or blocking I’d highly suggest taking dog.

[tepid cosmos]

The same build with exe stance takes the double the time of execution order arby

[high gull]

They better have this music playing on some maps

Or I riot

[tepid cosmos]

for context of how good arby still is

[zenith fern]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-4KhJxOr00 is beautiful

[twilit smelt]

Anyone got the photo for the hive gangers brunts armoury so i can get an idea of what guns they have access to?

[high gull]

Oh btw

I saw Ogryn has a chained shield backpack

[frigid thorn]

RELEASE TRAILER?!?!?!?

[arctic imp]

I suggest the shield because with high efficiency it can tank just about anything, even crusher hits

[high gull]

What does vet get new cosmetic wise

[azure mist]

I’d say harder to use even though they’re way easier now

[silver mural]

I enjoy dodge and fast weapons i think taxe was my most played arbys weapon and dagger zealot was prolly my second most played

[idle mesa]

Thanks. That is what I currently run. I think some one referred to ot as a meme tank build. Although I dont think it does too well on havoc 40 because of the corruption from attacks.

[split fiber]

i'm gonna make a vaudeville villain edit when i get some gameplay footage

[high gull]

https://tenor.com/view/tiger-tiger-woods-big-dog-salutation-what-up-gif-2478767235926945002

[azure mist]

Is Veteran and Psyker

Soon to be Hive Scum also

[glossy niche]

Scum gets so many cool new weapons

[azure mist]

We will ignore how Psyker nukes maps

[high gull]

Hiver Scum is 100% going to get mixed reviews because of the difficulty curve

Mark my words

[tender forge]

Gameslantern has them

[tribal bane]

an actual chemdogs voice for vet would be sick

[split fiber]

i can't wait

[silver mural]

Green apple flavor yummy

[arctic imp]

I have personally used a build like that but only for CC. It isn’t a meme, it can be genuinely good but CC will be useless if you don’t have very good game sense and know when to use your stuff. The shield is there to relieve some of your dodge anxiety, you can just block for long periods instead.

I would say havoc 40 isn’t for you until you do feel better dodging though because being able to do everything well is very useful for Havoc 40

[frigid thorn]

Subtitle guy is on point

[tepid cosmos]

chain axe
Chain sword
Heavy sword
knife
Devils claw
Combat axe
Tac axe
crowbar
Shiv
Bone saw

Shredder
Inf auto
Braced auto
Vig auto
Combat shotgun
Double barrel
Bolt pistol
Dual autos
Dual stubs
Needle pistol

[high gull]

Aye

[tender forge]

Id like them to learn how to dodge before auric

[high gull]

How good are the box cutters vs corkscrew knives?

[arctic imp]

Exactly but he wanted an alternative so I’m giving him one

[idle mesa]

I thought they nerfed shock minds, they cannot medium stun anymore?

[unreal stirrup]

corkscrew seem to be better

[azure mist]

Absolutely

[unreal stirrup]

since it can actually deal with armor

[tepid cosmos]

Better horde clear but honestly I just liked the drill bits more

[azure mist]

You live off of correct positioning and movement

[silver mural]

Twisty shivs look like they have a brain dead move set. Which i love

[glossy niche]

The ogryn is wearing a tank top and some work pants

[azure mist]

Less face tanking

[tender forge]

The thing is there is no alternative to dodge/blocking/moving

[tepid cosmos]

unless you mean the old knife and not the other mark

cause I didn’t use old knife

[arctic imp]

The shield can stun everything but bosses with a couple of hits. You can use dog as a secondary choice but mine is better for CC

[frigid thorn]

Top Ten Scariest Things to See on Tertium

[high gull]

Aaaand that's the problem, people are gonna think: Stim = dmg reduction = face tank

Watch

I'm telling you

[silver mural]

You can face tank as any class if you like inspecting the floor ;)

[glossy niche]

Rotters when slab is afoot

[high gull]

People are gonna think the stimms are the end all be all.

[azure mist]

Harsh wake up call lmao

[arctic imp]

That’s true but if you have a weapon that can tank a ton of damage it gives you time to think, which seems to be what he needs

[tribal bane]

imagin being one of the moebian 6th and you turn the corner and see a 10 foot tall ogryn carrying a knife as big as you

[tepid cosmos]

that’s currently in the store that ain’t new

[tender forge]

That is still blocking, which they have difficulties doing

[tepid cosmos]

Fake fan doesn’t play game

[high gull]

Wait what I never saw that

[twilit smelt]

Thx dude.

[glossy niche]

Let it be known chat that Brunt is from Catachan

He's basically ogryn supreme

[tribal bane]

ok mr. robinson, lets get you back to margret

[glossy niche]

If brunt was around we'd have beaten the cultists already

[unique spire]

I am scumming so hard tomorrow

[arctic imp]

Blocking isn’t hard if they have a weapon that can do it for infinite amounts of time, a high efficiency shield can do that if it’s even slightly supplemented by a dodges. Should he be doing havoc? No, but it isn’t anybody’s right to dictate that

[patent bone]

Not right now?

[silver mural]

Brunt is clearly soloing the gsc we havent met yet

[glossy niche]

Canon

[unreal stirrup]

endfield tomorrow

[silver mural]

Less then 24 hrs now

[glossy niche]

morrow

[patent bone]

19 hours says Steam

[silver mural]

A little less then 19 hrs i think

[lavish forge]

People talk about how they think desperado makes exec stance irrelevant and while that could be true sorta maybe in the way some people use it like as basically "make my spray and pray a little stronger" its meant for sniping long ranged specials I dont actually think they overlap as much as ppl think

[arctic imp]

The Show must go on 😎

[patent bone]

Jinx

[arctic imp]

Your Host truly welcomes you

[patent bone]

You owe me a soda

[tribal bane]

https://tenor.com/view/gideon-kremy-legends-of-avantris-legendsofavantris-hehehehe-gif-14522127281608905631

[arctic imp]

TREAD LIGHTLY SOMEWHERE ELSE

[compact oyster]

the subtitles are legit just RATATTATATATATA

[silver mural]

:(

[patent bone]

TAKE YOUR SHOW AND SHOVE IT UP YOUR ARSE

[glossy niche]

It seems more equivalent to ogryn's barrage ability if anything

[arctic imp]

MAKE ME

[patent bone]

Okay

[arctic imp]

😳😱

[tribal bane]

TAKE YOUR FANCY PANTS STEEL AND SHOVE IT UP YOURS

[lavish forge]

Yeah but the difference is ogryn comes with different accoutrements ofc

[tribal bane]

WE ALL KNOW WHAT YOU'RE REALLY DOING WITH MOEBIAN STEEL

[patent bone]

MAKE UP YOUR OWN JABS YOU UNINSPIRED FLAMBOYANT FEMBOY!!

[frigid thorn]

I always joke about that with my friends, like hwo fucking scary it would be, if you're this dude hopped up on drugs and demon powers and shit then suddenly a 2 ton baby slaps you and you go flying through a wall breaking your spine

[lavish forge]

They still should probably buff it thi

[tribal bane]

MAKE ME

[arctic imp]

Buff you say?

[patent bone]

OKAY

[arctic imp]

Medikit will hopefully get a rework before the next class comes out

[high gull]

https://tenor.com/view/the-giant-hoodwinked-too-watch-yo-tone-i-said-watch-yo-tone-big-guy-in-a-blue-suit-slapping-someone-gif-12346937456305641225

[silver mural]

Outlaw vs anarchist will be tough.... gotta think of a name too

[patent bone]

Rammah the Hammah

[arctic imp]

Anarchist seems to sound the most IN IT ya know what I mean? Like they’re really THERE

[tepid cosmos]

I’m putting you all in a water tank before it’s purified if you don’t stop acting like the cartels are some high schoolers understanding of gangs after watching one show involving Ross kemp

[frigid thorn]

I love the difference between the male and female ones

[arctic imp]

OKAY KILL JOY

LETS HAVE SOME REAL FUN

[high gull]

Don't mind him

He's a stinky little cheese rat