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it makes me hopefull for an omnisian axe
its been too useful to teams and groups ive been in too many times to not take it, regardless of whatever dumb shit is said regarding it, the times its useful it can save runs, for a single talent node
or a ranged weapon with 2 firing modes
Yeah, I got to agree there, the vet stealth just isn't that good, not like zealot stealth that nukes the bosses. Maybe if vet stealth didn't reveal you when you attacked it could be very powerful.
that'd be cool, deployable cover, but then thats just vet bubble
except it gives ammo
bolter even
this is privated
we can't see it
oh shit my b
Fuck yeah imagine how sick that would be, omnissian axe with variable power charges or whatever
gatekeeping the build
full auto hip fire, single shot ADS, it even has the big slider on the back of the gun lol
Toxin dps and total damage
can you apply 30 toxin stacks?
yes
try again
Is there really no limit?
ok now understand me here you have your normal axe and the special makes it so you attack with your servo arm
should work
is work in progress
is ruthless backstabs really that good
no
no lol
Then does that mean that each toxin debuff has a separate timer? Like, applying a new one does not refresh all of them
not at all
not really, thats why I didnt add it
Adding a stack resets the duration of toxin to 2.6 seconds, after that duration each damage tick reduces the stack by 1
the didnt add it in question:
The only source with a limit is chem bomb at 6
yeah that's meant to be uncanny i'm guessing
nvm im a dumbass
any way to regen rockets or chem bombs?
I thought about the other backstab
yeah with grenade pickups
wait, isn't that kinda busted?
also does chem bomb count as enviromental hazard for the AI or will they path through it?
that's literally just bleed but with no cap
holy shit
They path through it
fire grenades crying in the corner
Otherwise itd be hard to use the full duration
Is Lacerate better than Ruthless Backstab?
fire grenade:
Focused Resolve sounds kinda ass tbh
Is toxin status basically just bleed 2 or is there other differences?
both suck
What does it do
Idk names well
it stacks infinitely
i think blackout nades with pocket toxin might be the play
Half the time I knew them they were an unlocalized string
Oh yeah its ass
the other upgrade sounds much better
I think it was ass when it was still 30s
yeah definitely
Is that a good pick?
i don't think so
It does like 2 damage on direct hit actually
Ur wrong
a 5 seconds discoutn on your 45s cooldown ability is kinda bad
Yeah reading the whole thing, pick your targets seems more effective
I dont like it on zealot, I dont like it here
it's alright tbh if you take full cd stim
but ehh
i still would rather spend that on anything else
yeah
But its a flat reduction
when youre working with cdr, flat reductions are reduced in value
There's so much you want in the tree
does it not turn into 40s and then i get it to 20s with full stim
Ive never had a harder time giving up talents
thinking of doing this freak shit
instead of
uh
45s base 100 cdr for 20 seconds
assuming full uptime
around 25 seconds?
100% cdr in the full 45s duration results in like 22.5s
yeah
does blessed stims reduces corruption in lost wounds too
i mean
obviously not
Taking 5 off at the start means you saved 2.5s
would have been funny
you dont get full duration
Congrats
you only get 20s of stim
kinda ass then
it would have finally made suicide psyker viable
with the talent
Ig thats true
so it's more like a 5 second difference in practice tbh
But even still
Its 5s
For 1 talent
25 vs 20
chat we should blow up cole
They'd be more viable if FS simply made the blast damage/radius bigger.
yes
I just want to make a good gunslinger build
Chat is cole really epic
that's a 20% cooldown reduction talent assuming you have good uptime on stim
still pretty restrictive conditions
if you're not running full cd stim it's a dead talent
That much cdr would require your stim cd to be longer than a full run of desperado and a lot of its cooldown
yeah its a 65s cooldown
It wont be ready for it like half of the time
The talent is ass man
Some talents will be OP, some will be ass, that's the way of life.
I asked them to make it 10s

Cannot possibly get everything right the first go around unless you spend a year finetuning it
Lot of problems you see in the tree are a result of that btw
i will still be taking full cd stim on desperado tho
Am I cooking chat
https://i.vgy.me/IJTYe0.png
Is slippery customer worth keeping or nah?
Yeah, they will fix the shitty ones later probably.
(they wont)
They already reworked the classes multiple times though, so there's a good chance they will.
it enables you to avoid dmg
cause the way i think abt it
i dont think i take a lot of damage while sliding?
yeah usually if you're sliding it's because you're dodge sliding
which is probably going to avoid the melee attack from the dodge anyways
Its goated as fuck
Imagine how long youre considered dodging wheb sliding
I can't decide what to choose
Figured it could come in clutch to escaping
Style on those crushers
already had someone try tell me it'd be bad lol
like, its a huge defense node
honestly yeah on scum with their dodge distane
slide miles and be invincible the whole time
It's very likely the class gets patched, just as any other class.
alas my desire to MAXIMIZE POISON doesn't have very many points free xd
break it like they did arbites

Just in time for Christmas break ofc
Well terminus warrant never got its stack exchange unfucked
As is tradition
we swedes love our breaks
Just wanna know what yall think of my talent tree
no
See if it'll be good or not because I suck at reading stats
what will you do when you run out of ammo /s
I hate it
I dont think
True
Can't do that either

I guess, but that entire keystone is badly designed anyway. Like I think they should remake it from scratch.
I was thinking pickpocket may come in clutch if I need ammo
wait. Can chem bomb only apply 6, or does it apply until the enemy reaches 6?
It caps at 6 per enemy
It cant add anymore to an enemy beyond 6
so it does nothing if they already have like 10
Yeah
got it
6 is still good damage though isn't it?
Very
It's just incendiary but better
but flashbangs with pocket toxin might be even better
What i havent tested tho
Is if a pre toxxed enemy with lots of stacks walks into the puddle, will they esplode on death too even tho the puddle didnt add any stacks to them
likely they do, I bet the exploding is just a different status effect
A very very tiny aoe that does like 1-2 dmg and light stagger
One of the two needlepistol specials does that too
Cleavetide 
then 1 crusher comes out and suddently you are dead
don't be dead, problem solved 
bonesawq barely has any cleave so i imagine cleave nodes will be very wanted
yes, but probably not both of them
although I am looking at it's blessings
and almost all of them are complete doodoo
youd want at least 2
2 cleave blessings?
well, yes
I'm just talking about 2 cleave blessings
wrath, shred and refined lethality are like the only ones that look good
100% cleave from talents, 50% power from decimator (or 125% total from rampage), and -60% hitmass from shock and awe
all multiplicitive with each other for how effective your cleave value is
probably the single highest cleave amplification in the game without hitting stuff like raw multis like perfect strike or infinite cleave
cole can you teach me how to bonesaw, I want to like it so bad 
like what part
Where it saws bone
blessings, moveset, what coatings to use/what they do
whats the damage of bonesaw individual hits?
high
is it comparable to caxe?
coat yourself with metal dissolving acid
i have an overkill build i wanna try on it
what are some juicy blessings 
probably less than caxe but it swings a little faster and has much better crit
i run decimator and shock and awe
gonna use bonesaw on toxin build so I can build more POISON
For stubs is run n gun and speedloaders must haves?
decmator gives you reliable damage, and the strength also give you cleave thats multiplicitive with normal cleave buffs (which broker gets a lot of), and then you throw on that -hitmass on top
I wonder if running crowbar or shivs with coated weapnry is gonna be more toxin due to insane attack speed or multihit
actually
Weird that bonesaw has zero unique blessings that interact with the status effects it applies and no Refined Lethality doesn't count since it's just a reskinned mercy killer. Missed opportunity anyways.
and suddenly this weapon that sucks ass at cleaving is sweeping through mixed hoards, coating them in toxin
@novel oracledoes crowbar multihit apply two stacks of toxin with that talent?
I mean, I think so too
other on hit talents dont proc from the 2nd hit of those
such as adrenaline for crowbar and saw rips
It does for crowbar
you could
it has bash
I know what I'm gonna do next
would you say the fully charged heavy ignoring hitmass is good?
first weapon in the game to have bash and not be dookie with it
Become Gordon Freeman?
Thank you fatshark
not with the competition it has
im def gonna do toxic crowbar build
I was thinking of naming my hivescum Honey
because
HivesCum
Haha
1 point and you have a pseudo toxin weapon
you have some good blessings in there, ones that are typically overlooked in other pools for the OP ones
chainsword and use toxin to kill crushers
clearly this is practical
combine that WITH A BASE 35% CRIT CHANCE if you play well
What base weapons will hiver get
Do we know yet
nope, no ones seen anything from the class yet
People sure do a lot of that on tertium considering there's like 90 billion people there 
wait class
Ive seen dual pistols dusl uzi things dual daggers the crowbar and like a saw axe
Huh, no lasguns?
I think all of them except the full size bolter
or lasguns
Hmmm yes. This weapon is made out of weapon
tried it out for 10 seconds and already feel a world of difference 🙏
oh no, the hivescum stole all our weapons, even the psyker staffs and massive ogryn weapons.
Revolver shenanigans are going to be fun
How are the Hives Scums interactions with other classes?
Want some crack? Sure why not.
Mleh
Fuck, the sheer fact that they can have practically infinite ammo is what's kinda fucked up and is making me want to slap the high power stuff on them
Double-barrel time
Lasguns are strongly associated with the militarum
I am thinking of a name for my hiver
And Arbitrators and hive Scum didn't serve in the guard
Do you think DrukhariAtHome or DiscountDrukhari would fit considering hiver gameplay?
First one
goooood, can't say much cause I really haven't heard many
what is Drukhari
But zealot and psyker...?
Or HomelessDruchari
who let in this amateur
Both serve in the militarum often
Cole
Ah damn. Can't wait to hear that spicy HS vs Arbites convos
Your ignorance disgust me
Ohhhh right i remember dawn of war
Mb
They're another name for Felinids
its literally night and day its crazy
who?

me too, most curious to see auth's interactions with em
Catgirls
wtf
and people are mocking me for shilling shock and awe in the big 25
cuz its only on 1 weapon that doesnt need it on live
Did warhammer always have cat furries?
he is joking
Maul on the other hand... 
Yes
Although there are possible catpeople, but lore is very flimsy on them
Trust me
you can guess maul's attitude tho 
more like shock and huh
Felinids are throwaway old lore that's barely mentioned
Drukhari are actually dark elves in space
That's what I'm waiting for
So which personalities are y'all picking?
For me, I think I'll go with female Anarchist, although male Anarchist sounded really good as well, like both Anarchist VA's are top tier with their line delivery and accents imo.
The other personas sounded pretty good as well.
where can i view them
Is outlaw going to help cure fatalist's depression with the power of love
it all depends on voice lines
Male outlaw. I like his attitude
Time will tell...
not on what personality represents
Oh! Do we have a nickname for Ogryns? I'm guessing Big Lad
Like, full on retconned? Or just forgotten and never talked about?
small peek
Male anarchist called my ogryn "Lump"
more of the latter
Choosing between Male Anarchist or Bounty Hunter
WHERE CAN I CHECK PERSONALITIES REEE
I really hate the anarchist voice for some reason
https://youtube.com/shorts/bRRl_DAtwzE?si=8VKmFwJzcRcE9ODL
i kinda love him
Youtube probably. I just heard them on Jo's livestream.
Bounty hunter so much better
In a friendly way or asshole way?
Veterans are "las-fodder" which is hilarious. Zero respect
I haven't heard the others
Friendly
Kinda guessed that
Okay good. I love our big lads
the new ogryn voice sounds too ingelligent
It was during complimentary kill spree voicelines
It's scary how smart he is
"You're a real bonebreaker, Lump!"
I hope hive scum also gets access to the other cross-class head implant cosmetics so we don't have to yell at FS again
Something like that
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Loose Cannon trying to fit in with the Scum only to be called fucking "Las-Fodder"
They have friendly lines
OH MY FUCKING GOD THE AI VOICE TRANSLATION
YOUTUBE DIEEEEE
I think I've heard anarchist refer to veterans as "killers"
DO NOT ARGUE. I AM WISE.
Great line
Yeah, it's terrible lmao.
More so than the others you reckon?
there is some variation like las fodder for vets ect
It's an awesome feature
Moreso than the other vets for sure
With the most dogshit impementation possible
Twitchy
I love it
Agree, it's good to laugh at.
Tithe-rat is a great one too
I heard a convo where fem LC was like "you're cool with me" and one of the fem scum was like "you're not as bad as the others" back
Does choosing the hive ganger background effect anything
A shame to my Pro Vet, but also kinda expected
They hit it off
it would be an awesome feature to have allowing people to somewhat watch videos from any language
So are we expecting Gangopalypsis?
but it sounds dogshit and is for some reason turned on by default
I have no idea
Aight :> ty for information
Oh yeah that does sound useful, but it screws up the translations a lot, even english to english gets screwed up lmao.
95% chance it does not
yes
arbites release had 4 stacks of arbites for days
It was a SWAT game for a while
Good idea
I did hear how one Fem HS was calling out heretics and promising "not to hurt them" only for a Male BH to reply "You REALLY think that's going to work... again?"
terrible implementation
Well u never know
Yeah :/
I know
i found a russian video that explained cleave in darktide and it was autodubbed via translation
lemme find some of the highlights
it was so peak
"the cleavage stat is a very important weapon stat how effective your character will be at destroying orthogonal enemies in darkside"
"my favorite analogy when talking about cleavage is, of course, a bucket of water."
"The homeless man has 1.25 striking mass"
i dunno, gameplay wise ganger seems to be more interesting than arbites
ask me or wolfy to translate next time 
"The homeless man has 1.25 striking mass"
Is peak
not the homeless man...
I assume that is Groaner?
SUFFER NOT THE RIGHT ANGLE TO LIVE!!!
The homeless man has 1.25 striking mass, but the fentanyl addict has 2 striking mass, therefore beating the homeless man
But if you turn a homeless man into a fent addict, does it stack?
I like what bounty hunter represents, i love assassins
but probably going to b e boring
I know one
Introduces Meth
Anarchist is probably my choice
I dislike anarchist
Wait, male bounty hunter voice sounds exactly like one of the vet voices
the other 2 sound more fun
I think Bounty Hunter is the Australian (I think)
Outlaw sounds really fun
I think the male Outlaw is secretly a dwarf.
Outlaw is Malakai Makaisson. Already a 10/10
The soviet union in the 1930's:
exactly
Who is a Slayer and an Engineer
lol, that's literally name of my zealot
yes
Eyyy
I might make one named Snorri
The best dwarf
I was wrong
the gang you choose defines what tatoos you get
i cri every time
Is that it?
Were you expecting more?
Honestly kinda, like how you can only wear certain cosmetics that matches the gang you're affiliated with
Nah they have them available to everyone. That could've been cool but the cartel variations of the 3 basic outfits fill out the penance rewards.
True nuff.
Tread Lightlies all the way tho
Damn, chem damage from blitz seems amazing, i was afraid dots going to be too weak
oh that is good at least
having to change personality for a different fit would be taxing
Right?
Does the Hivescum get any Commissary outfits or are they all in penances?
likely 0 commissary outfits
There's a tattoo that comes with the cartel iconography and that one is exclusive to your background
cause arbites still has 0
They're all penance
But it's not even the coolest tattoo that scum gets
ye I've seen that
So w/e.
it was boring ye
The deluxe edition tat is my fav
Thankfully the ones I'm aiming for are pretty easy to get
St Messelina on the tits, Tertium on the back
it probably will considering it's not the arbites situation
i think
And it has a skull outline on your face
The full-body tattoos are a two-in-one deal
Face and torso
Most likely they will but it seems like there currently arent any in the pre release build
With the face paint the face tattoos kinda seem redundant
rip, really would like to see some new cosmetics in the commissary.
The arby situation is because of GW being extra super strict with arby cosmetics, so not really a fatshark thing afaik.
Hope so, but idk.
Arbites also arent really all that customizable outside maybe more colours
Hive Scum on the other hand are incredibly customizable
With Hive Scum, sky's the fucking limit
More colours would be fine, blue cop, yellow cop, green cop etc etc would be something at least.
I just want a pair of full leopard or zebra print pants to wear under the water cartel torso and ill be gucci
i wanna wear a suit made of beef jerky please
Mayhaps
Gotta wait for the Gaga class releasing in 2026 sorry
If the heretics don't eat you, I will
Commissary is unlikely to me
Arbites didn't get any either
Probably all gonna be bought with Aquilas
Sons of the forest skin armor, perhaps 
are they actually visible though
I hate that we got removed the naked skins
Oh commisary? Yeah probably not, vestures though theyd be refusing free money
goopy 
I actually think hive scum is really cool ngl, a criminal who probably helped doom their city to fall now helping take it back
As night lords fun, i want a skin like that
Even if they were forced to
HS are half naked most of the time so they should be
hehe, "skin"
I read the original commisary question as commisars
get it
Which they probably were
finally
someone gets it
Yeah scum has hella exposed fits
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Double stabbing
Loose cannon vibes /pos
Thats accurate at least for the water cartel, they got (supposedly) duped by Admonition, more likely the Ragged King knew exactlt whst he was doing but likely didnt expect to be stabbed in the back
watched this earlier. gotta good giggle out of the legendary torso piece that's just leather straps
Lets gooo
Or he was corrupted too
Will choosing cartel even affect any dialogus
Yet no dogs out lower body options... 0/10 worst dlc
the anarchist is too loose cannon for the loose cannon
Prob not
literally unplayable
I genuinely believe this is a wink at the whole shirtless bug saga
Me chasing the stray cats on the side of the road
hes kinda scared of her tbh
They should sex
Rocket seems a bit op
"y'all mfers wanna be shirtless so bad? Okay fine. But it's a legendary penance unlock so you better work for it"
Loose Cannon is scared of Anarchist? Nice
for reference, i dig it
i think it's awesome and i'll definitely be using it on a loadout. perhaps on my full melee build
the loose cannon is fucked up sure
but even he has a limit
Tbh penances arent that bad except some of the zealot ones those were either a massive slog or just impossible for me
Loose cannon finally feeling how professional feels
and anarchist has cross that limit millions of times
Loosie cares a lot more than they let on fwiw
Basically lol
Loose Cannon is just trying to have a good time in spite of the horrors thrown in his face and he'd rather be racketeering or something.
Ive 100%d every class except Zealot, the killing 40 stunned enemies one has given me too many headaches
Anarchist does not want to be anywhere else. In fact, they don't want the war to end
They want to be right here
Killing heretics
Is the Anarchist trying to be the Loose cannons friend but only creeps out the Loose Cannon more?
nah, he just has good survival instinct
Whoever is paying em probably
i'm locked in on male anarchist. i love how delightfully deranged he sounds
this one actually easy to do, one of the easiest in fact
yeah but he has still murdered people out of selfishness, dont think that can be fully excused
granted thats part of his outward personality which is used to cope with all hes been through (hes like the most prolific vet personality with all hes experienced)
Voice is boring though
Male outlaw seems the most fun
Thematically i prefer bounty hunter, but i am almost sure it is oging to have most boring lines
Idk Anarchists intro suggests she is infuriated by the fact that the war has made the lives of the common people even worse and hopes that the end of rhe war can bring about some sort of change for the better.
the anarchist thinks the loose cannon "isnt as bad as the others"
That's not anarchist
that sounds like outlaw
Maybe you're thinking of outlaw
Oh he's not a good person lol i just meant he does lock in and actually does care about his teammates to an extent. He is still a guardsman
Anarchist just wants to get the party started waheyyyy
And that means killdeathmurderspree
Anarchist really wants to watch the world burn
i like all the personalities, but i'm extra privy to male anarchist. in the intro dialogue in character creation, when he went low and growly, i was like "yep. this is the one"
Oh yeah I mudt have gotten the intros mixed up I thought anarchists was longer than it is
We can finally inexplicably drive whistleblowers to commit suicide
Once again, my bad mucker
Where Loose Cannon parks in the handicapped stall
Anarchist double parks the handicapped stall after stealing it from a handicapped person
ok so adrenaline frenzy basically blazing piety
Mad Jack Churchill was said to be unhappy with the abrupt end of the war, saying: "If it wasn't for those damn Yanks, we could have kept the war going another 10 years!"
That's Anarchist
This was a real British soldier btw.
The one with the bow and arrow and greatsword right? Or am I thinking someone else?
Broadsword and bagpipes
Maybe bow and arrow too idk
well some people like violence
I do kind of dislike that anarchism is seen as chaos for the sake of chaos a lot though, its supposed to be using chaos as a tool for change or to wipe the slate clean and start over for the better
Ah, it is that one scottish man
He also used bow and arrows
He did use a bow and arrow
Lmao
Waiting for the fripfrop shorts to hear the voices
he does a great job presenting them
Why da fourty Kay not doing nuanced political explorations
Some people just want to watch the world burn
Homie doesn't even know that the equation of chaos and evil is a hot button topic nobody ever discusses
Anarchism is literally just doing whatever you want
Aka Chaos
Fellas I don't think the literal cartel wants to restart for the greater good
DrukhariAtHome
EversorAtHome
DiscountDrukhari
DiscountEversor
Which name should i take
Anarchists do make good Cannon fodder
DiscountEversor
HomelessEversor
Or maybe just Eversor
I was gonna suggest JunkieEversor but Eversors already on drugs
Anarchy and Anarchism are different things.
Outside of the 40 corruption heal, it only gives buffs based on the stim you're holding that it eats when you use it
So youd need a stim ready at the same time
How impactful Untouchable perk is?
So just have custom stim
Which is btw seems a no brainer choice, why would you want to use regular stims over custom one anyway
Because you can share a med stim with the entire team
Is that worth not running a stim with the crate?
Lol probably not
But you can do it
think of the team wide thinky stimm tho
Group thinking session begins in 15 seconds
You can have that with custom as well
but infinitely, not 1 time
Why the hell ramping backstabs talent is in the left tree lmao
Concentration stim is also a flat 3x cdr
Whereas with a full branch,you're getting 50-100% cdr
Every 45-75s
daaaamn, i am going to make dot knife build, bleed + chem
Depending on if you take anything else
actually lore accurate for them to be like that
They're the Emperors gats
the very first official artwork for a stub pistol is literally an M1911
His chosen weaponry
hive scum probably manufacture their own weapons
calling 1914's modern lol
they're timeless
They're M19111s
right, close enough
hmm, in rogue trader they were very different
in rogue trader they look exactly like the revolvers
I was actually hoping we'd get dual revolvers
hadron getting an aneurysm as brunt is selling crowbars and she has to consecrate a bent piece of rebar
Better that than being Wolfer ngl
It's these lovelies
that's a joke, right?
using corkscrew shivs is some evil shit it's so beautiful
no slopdwarf it's 100% real
this is very real
1911's are chambered in 40mm anti aircraft shells
how do you think americans won ww2??
Simple: With the power of m1911
first time seeing bone saw, holy hell it is amazing
I wanted a poison weapon
would never expect that it owuld be bonesaw though...
i would prefer if shivs were poisoned
Why slope > : (
cos its funny
stfu slope psyker
and it makes you salty
shiv special is throwing one which applies poison
i know, i mena basic attacks
Dual pistols remind of gunslinger in KF 2
all melee attacks can apply poison on crit
class very much reminds me of my favourite parts of KF2 and Payday 2
welcome back dodge build 2025
hold the grinder perk deck this time tho
💀
i mostly played berserker lol
also firebug and demo
those r actually the same ones i played tho mostly berserker lmfao
So are there no blessings that grant toxin to the shivs?
no
it’s only from the tree :/
they were lazy and ported the knife blessings from what i hear
Bonesaw is the weapon to apply poison
but actually nerfed them for some reason
nothing new to the shivs?? literally same blessings ?
i wanted to like the shivs
i personally hate knife
shivs have toxins on throwing knives
i mean the blessings are good
but they could have done more, but i suppose that's just fatshark
how’s the cleaver then
it cleaves, supposedly
It's got grape and apple flavoured versions
well?
like a cleaver
It cleaves man what more could you need
there is ablessing to get infinite cleave though
this is a talent
am i the only one that feels that the dual stub pistols feel out of place? idk why
Nah it’s the one lvl 5 talent from Vermintide
you can see there are plenty of talents that imitate blessings
nah, it is combination of 2 of them
Lmao
is anarchist just prescience
yea
What do we think the best blitz is for havoc?
ah, they changedi t
in thel ast year or something
just about time /s
Shitting out tons of toxin with blinders + pocket toxin might be an option
They also made healshare no longer a talent and it’s now a necklace
So now all classes have 3 thp talents
Same with Ruffian being Bonebreaker aura.
yup
It does apply to ammo crates to so people def gonna use it in havoc
on top of the fact that the class prints its own ammo with that desperado ult
My Gun Lugger wants to print ammo to his Stubber
nah ignore desparado
there's a talent that refills 20% of your ammo when u hit 0
no cooldown
no trigger conditions

are you sure
are you sure you are not misreading it
nvm u need to kill an elite or specialist
which are always spammed?
its called Pickpocket
but still this is op as fuck
Very balanced ofc
Basically never not have ammo.
It refills the clip to 20% if below 20%, doesn't it
yeah no the clip, your ammo reserve
Just kinda LAME that only Scum gets (somewhat) unconditional infinite ammo
It says reserves, but mr. E's video shows its the clip
but veteran is forced to use las weapons with shock trooper
still strong tho, i feel like it needed a cooldown
oh no, you mentioned mr e, good luck
Blackout seems pretty strong since you can have it double as a chem grenade and it regens.
Cole showed it's reserve
If it does so that is almost certainly unintended
But given who you're saying showed it they are actually almost certainly wrong and lying to avoid admitting so
the anti tanner brigade is rapidly approaching your location as we speak
ive seen it here on stream
it refilled reserves
u can also see it in other showcases
here
Mr E spreading misinformation again? 😈
cole so epic
tbh a lot of the talents sound op on paper but people are gonna fold anyway
just watch
i know damn well im gonna have a rough time adjusting to a playstyle where i dont wanna get hit
He's one-shotting Elites with the double-barrelled shotgun when it has 1 shell left in the magazine, and it keeps refilling the clip. But he doesn't test if it refills the reserves also
Are you at least gonna provide the clip?
... Isn't that as simple as looking in the bottom right to see if the ammo increases? Any footage showing it in action should prove everything. Granted, I don't know what video you're talking about
you have infinite ammo with it essentially
when you reload it doesnt consume ammo
also am i stupid or are people not understanding desparado
they're comparing it to point blank barage
people are stupid
but its not the same???????????
.
point black barrage is "nuke the entire screen"
desparado is "haha you're le immune"
you can see clearly that when it drops to 66 ammo in reserve on reload it gets topped off to 122
both are close range focused gun abilities
it's about the most comparable ability in the game
2 trees now have the talent
Very confusing 😔
yes but they dont function the same unless im the one misunderstanding how both work lol
Desperado the blessing
Fatshark needs a better thesaurus
I pray the names of the enhanced talents get renamed before launch
I pray they fix the crate "bug" they fucked up on 🤦🏻♂️
I hope infinite ammo needle pistol will be good into rotten armour
Yeah I heard tox adm is way better than the others
The one time I saw it’s DoT shown off it was like 588 dmg every fourth ish of a second
On a crusher
Infinitely sustainable 2k DPS into rotten armour at range will be a literal game changer
I'm ready coach put me in
the dot can stack to hilarious damage yeah
Havoc ruins everything
Remove it
I don't think rotten armor is bad it's surrounded by actually awful modifiers that make it look bad xd
stimms are the real culprit
Imagine if we got the modifiers in Maelstroms
word is the current rotten DR isn't applying to melee, but will next patch 😏
would love that
its the infalted hp
That's what it used to be. You skipped the video where MisterE says it's been changed
Lite versions of havoc modifiers would be so nice for mael but I feel that's a pipe dream sadly
It's reserves now, not clip
Just make another difficulty after auric
And have the missions have like 10 modifiers
Or maybe not. Does fatshark have a suggestion submission form on forums or something?
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what a crappy thumbnail, i love mr e
MASSIVE
CHANGESSS 😈😈😈
Algorithm maxing 🚬
MASSIVE? LAST MIN?? MUST CLICK!
"last minute" patch 4 days before release
There'll be a laster minute patch at release I'm pretty sure
(Changes still probably happening too)
Can't wait to read about massive changes to things I didn't know about anyway
Unless I watched his first outdated video
What I never understood is why does Mr E have a synth wave theme in all of his videos?
you don’t understand a talent went from this % to that % this changes EVRERYTHING?!?!
EVERTYTHING!!!! (only a few talent changes)
If you're checking the gameslantern page, it should be up-to-date
namely hyper violence
it cool
of course people are comparing this to vet in the comments
i swear vet players view everything as a threat
But like the video itself doesn't have anything complimenting the theme he is making for his entire channel
average cadian
it cool
Watch the vet players die because no toughness dmg resist and immediately call the class bad
I pointed at a bird sitting on a roof outside and a vet screamed at me saying I'm ruining his class
IN CYBERPUNK 2077
WHAT MAKES YOU A CRIMINAL? 🤔
GETTING CO... 😈
A lot of number changes, a few pieces of functionality and a couple of bug fixes happened very late (Thursday morning) so a lot of the videos you may be seeing are from a version before that
wheres my gold toughness button smh my head
vet players are like that butterfly meme
literally anything new
is this a threat to my veterinoo???? my veterinooo invalid????
and the answer is yes
NOT ONE STEP BACK
I enjoyed vet when I found out about combat shot exe stance
Silly headshot multiplier
tsk tsk true vet player would have ran 9 stam hellborne
otherwise pretty alright to play as for me
I've been enjoying Laspistol Ghost crit maxing for Vet.
Ok but can you be a Fent dealer?
Didn't think so
still a little upset hive scum didn’t get a laspistol
he does uses drg and hades tracks sometimes, which also slaps
also ror2
I'm ngl ever since bound by duty I warmed up to vet again A LOT
Guess I’ll just hold out copium for a post launch shotlas
he just plays random music
its not following a theme or anything
when he streams he listens to anything but the ingame music lol
drg and hades have a banging soundtrack
idk i just dont really feel like using any vet weps or abilities or blitzes honestly
Yeah I listen to video game soundtracks and anime OP songs

Skirmisher is finally usable, exe stance and mmf are finally usable, krak buff is awesome, point tax gone, the list goes on

i dont watch anime, but i do be listening to hades and ror2 ost while driving
...and his music was electric
So was she
hive scum driving
i dont get this joke, but im sure is funny
Wtf does +15 sprint dodge angle mean
When I bought this game I just wanted to jane guardsman larp like most other players and now I can do that and have fun with it again, that update was like early christmas 
The angle you dodge gun fire while looking perpendicularly to gunners is extended by 15 degrees
Oasis she’s electric reference lol
im pretty interested in 4 of the hive scum weps so thats awesome
So you can run looking slightly closer or farther away from gunners
no idea what any of this mean
none of the arbys weps were this cool tbh lmao
which checks out, since arbites was just forced by james
ty for your honesty. hard to find these days. big of you
Scum squad be like:
wuh is this sarcasm or am i silly
Yea, it is. I only saw what it did in his video (which wasn't meant to say "that's the only thing it does")
The mythic dawn continues to stalk me even here!!! Jk hi
arbi weapons are cool but arbi itself isnt really anything "new" he's like a mishmash of everyone but it ends up working out
scummerino actually has creative shit going on
broski thats the outdated version
i jsut like goofing on people who say 'to be honest', when they mention a normal opinion
yeah hive scum is really cool
hi kez
Don't worry, I've seen Cole's video
oh lmao
which cole? the epic cole? or the unepic cole?
Still waiting for the med crate fix 😔
like an actual use of tbh would be idk: "i kill hookers randomly, tbh"
Is kind of problematic that update happened so late into media but we can’t really do much it had to happen
I think Epic Cole?
The epic one unepic Cole isn’t allowed in test I forbid it
epic
i use tbh cause ermm ermm ermm uhh the uhhh uhh yeah i got nothing
they are both cool guys
Wait so is hivescum out or nah?
dec 2
unepic cole is not as epic as epic cole
Just replace it with unironically
Tuesday
Oh okay thanks
december 2nd 2025AD
2025 attack damage?
Valid reply tbh
Is he allowed to have that
It’s actually BC
She
And yes
She uses it like a pacifier 😞
such greed
It's a bini baby
🅱️epic Cole?!
powerful creature
Yea so 🅱️epic they have a calendar after them
holy
Her power is sleeping 18 hours a day 😰
thats pretty 🅱️epic
secret about epic Cole I can say after being his friend for 6 years he is actually kind of lame ngl
lies
no way...
Um spoilers???
was the outlaw voiced by michael rooker? xD
nah Gordon cooper https://www.imdb.com/name/nm2090228/
https://www.shiningvoices.com/artists/gordon-cooper/
Hello Gordon! 😺
for anyone who got to play early access, how does the med crate work? does it reset your wounds if you or your teammate healed back a little over the first wound?
How does swift endurance work? Fatshark with the descriptions again
Interacts the same as all other corruption cleansers that aren’t Medicae or stimm only up to the start of current wound if a full wound is corrupted. I haven’t used the crate with a med stimm though and I think Cole is asleep rn
i think it gives ye moar attack speed with 3 +3 stamina curious, type shi 😭 so maybe it actives when you say, push attack and get a buff? or its active all the way
sooo all it does is, prolong the inevitable, you're still gonna die?
I was gonna say, is there a cap on this? Like +11 stamina?
well say you have half a wound corrupted it will still cleanse that and make you immune to future corruption for a little bit
but hey it applies stim lab stims so i think it works? funny how its named a medical crate but it doesnt treat health back, with corruption being a seperate thing that only eats your health and prevents further healing
so admech glazers have a chance to get a biomancer i guess
Stamina curios are kind of just a meme on the class that isn’t really needed me tyr and cole have all agreed on that here
missed op, thanks fatshark i really do enjoy warrior priest's here, have a medkit ability
What’s your dedicated meth maker build
I don't think healing should exist in darktide as an ability (at least wound healing)
it consumes the stim right? the map spawned ones at least
For curios? I was running 2 toughness 1 health with
gunner resist on all 3
revive speed on all 3
sprint efficiency on 2
And sniper resist on 1
Ye and will put your broker one on cd
With the trade of turning it into a group buff
wouldnt it be more effective to have 2 gunner resis
What’s the main point of chemist anyways, area of denial/support?
Does a bit of both also as a tree just synergises well with all the other builds you can make. Funnily enough stimm crate is the thing that synergises the least with that tree rn but that’s being changed
Breaking the game
😈
Breaking Bad
idk maybe gunners were really scary in the last build I got to play
how do you mean its being changed?
I was just assuming it’d be like a battery super charging any class
Rn if you deploy a crate that spends a stimm you won’t get a stack of your keystone (dependency) this is being changed
either for or if not possible soon after launch
ah so you can just, spam crates with both cd on the lab and that talent?
Well you can but cd doesn’t effect stimm so a lot of them would be stimm less crates
unless you are running small cd stimm with sample collector
Then ye that would work
ah makes sense, so any cdr you get doesnt affect stim cd?
Ye
considering there is a talent that reduced stim CD by kills, i think there is very little reason to not make uber mega drug
Grail of all junkies
High so High you get to speak with Emperor
He’s my beloved now says the guy who can’t stand up
There’s one reason, to spam explosive drug box
mmm yummers gonna have to fight other hive scum to get cd off their abilities! cool design!
Yes there is 💉
wait does it, yk, harm your teammates too?
No it's dog atm because consuming the stimm for the crate does not give you dependency stacks
Nah
aite cool had me scared a lil
if you blow up a barrel with it or something that will though
sadly you cant inject your teammates with experimental tertum peptides
Team mates can still inject you though
good to know 
ah well stuff are still subject to change, still a few days left over before it drops
does this activate dependency stacks?
I personally never tested this
a what now
it should
aids
Don’t throw rocks at me!!!!
forbidden experimental research chemicals they used to create the hulk
I tried my best 
erm actualy thats a jug
Fucked up jug


