#psyker-class

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potent echo
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Assail works/worked with puncture on bistol

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Bleedsails

olive oar
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@buoyant maple If I remember correctly yout talked about the Illisi cleave, and I got say that using Charged Strike with BOTH +strength blessings with the Illisi is a game changer to that weapon. It becomes something of another world. SG and DD, it becomes a killing machine.

daring rose
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Question, which one?

olive oar
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Zarona Combat Shotgun, in the build I just posted

daring rose
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So why am I doing scrier's gaze

wind spruce
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You're running blazing spirit FGS on a build with 22.5% crit. Couldve atleast taken riposte over unstable power.

frigid mortar
frigid mortar
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It's also 27.5% crit because souldrinker is always active.

olive oar
daring rose
daring rose
wind spruce
olive oar
wind spruce
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Wait did they remove the soulblaze cap from melee blazing spirit ?!?

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I swear it used to say max 12 stacks

frigid mortar
daring rose
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Heh, the Lasp is nice but is for picking things off

frigid mortar
daring rose
crisp ether
olive oar
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It's 12 stacks, but you're delivering them with a whack to the head. Like, they won't live much after that. The thing about blazing spirit is that it gives its value when you're in a big skirmish, single targets you won't notice its effects.

crisp ether
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Wait a minute. You run a build that's meant to be constantly high peril

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But don't take the node that pretty much makes you near permanently stun immune for doing so

frigid mortar
crisp ether
frigid mortar
crisp ether
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Yeah. That's why that talent is so good.

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It's hard to be a frontliner when a single walker can completely kill your momentum.

frigid mortar
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Well that hasn't happened much if at all for me. Did you try it or just here to be a negative presence without even giving it a shot?

crisp ether
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Dude bubble knight is one of the two psyker builds I run in Havoc.

Ya said its harsh when something hits you from behind. The entire point of that talent is to stop the snowballing that can happen from that exact scenario so not having that on a build meant to be more of a frontliner is just, odd.

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Hell my build is still in the Psyker guide here I think KEKW_ogryn

sturdy reef
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I just go melee psyker in my havocs usually

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if I play psyker

crisp ether
sturdy reef
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I like my giga sauce

crisp ether
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FGS still be doing the big damage

sturdy reef
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Ive been using the obscurus ever since the FS buff

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its good

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just do a bit more assail weaving for hordes

crisp ether
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Obscurus honestly kinda won out of the three from the update I think

sturdy reef
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it was already the best

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overall

crisp ether
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Deimos damage actually did take a bit of a hit with uncanny nerf

sturdy reef
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deimos macro'ers in shambles

crisp ether
sturdy reef
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if you can macro it

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sure

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lol

crisp ether
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You don't have to macro it though.

kind jay
crisp ether
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It's pretty easy to do just naturally.

plucky flax
crisp ether
plucky flax
kind jay
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should we report bubble knight to fatshark for nerfing?

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thats what were doing today right

crisp ether
plucky flax
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If the psyker is not running bubble inferno I'm not taking them

crisp ether
sturdy reef
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where is my taunt gryn?

crisp ether
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Where is the taunt?!

jovial juniper
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Where's my boom box Arby's

plucky flax
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Tru

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Full support only

crisp ether
plucky flax
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Smoke vets on hk servers are op though

crisp ether
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I mean a good smoke vet in general is op

plucky flax
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I really enjoyed playing with hk vets

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So much better than eu vets

crisp ether
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US vets make me wanna cry honestly

plucky flax
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And chinese ogryns are op

crisp ether
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So many of them running shocktroop recon now 😭

plucky flax
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Eu ogryns just feed or rumbler spam

sturdy reef
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helbore my beloved

pseudo geyser
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👍

sturdy reef
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yeah I never see smoke vet in NA anymore

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after the krak buff

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we dont have carapace hordes nearly as much so you would think smokes/frags become more favorable

crisp ether
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I've been using frags a lot.

empty granite
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KleeSob my tree got deleted

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how do i build it i wanna use this

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althought now that you can buy weapon until its got good stats instead of waiting 80 years for osmething partially useable to be in stock exists maybe not this staff specifically

rich spindle
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click the crit stuff

empty granite
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wait why do weapons cost like 11k on my physker teh ywere only 3k on my zealot HAHA

deft stump
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Higher lvls raises the item lvl you can get and the cost of it.

empty granite
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i dont know what the dump stat is notlikethis

empty granite
deft stump
empty granite
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is this a god roll?

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what perks /blessing do i put on it ?

deft stump
empty granite
deft stump
empty granite
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its been a while since i used my physker. around launch when gear was purely rng based on what the shop sold you or you got at the end of a mission

empty granite
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i just remmeber casting lighting that chained across all the enemies like that starwars guy

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do i just copy these perks ?

deft stump
empty granite
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and you spam quell between every cast so it stays at 100%

pseudo geyser
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tho i'm unsure if they have rmb builds or only lmb for ek

deft stump
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Palpatine build.

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It disgusts me to no end every time I get one in my runs.

pseudo geyser
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i think they mean rmb tho judging from the above screenshots

deft stump
empty granite
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from what i can remember from when i used to play this class in 2022/2023 i liked using some ability that let me pop the heads of any elite and just managing keeping my queal between 90 and 100%

deft stump
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I'll say this, EK no longer works like it did. It's basically a single target staff now.

empty granite
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ive got no perks in my skill tree atm so idk if it stay the same or could be better

deft stump
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It's basically single target that stuns a secondary target as well.

empty granite
deft stump
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Yes, but it no longer affects a group. Damage was increased while number of targets got lowered.

empty granite
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is that why you never see physkers anymore

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over nerfed and unplayable

pseudo geyser
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yep pls buff inferno nextp atch fs

deft stump
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Well, skitarii might release super busted though.

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Like the other DLC classes before they got nerfed.

wraith sphinx
deft stump
spice aurora
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i almost kill everything but clip is corrupted I HATE SHADOWPLAY

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still lost but it felt cool almost doin it

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1/4 hp on last dh left then i get trapped >:|

rich spindle
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dorfan lobby,.....

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😮

spice aurora
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who else is gonna run ahead and spawn 999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 bosses

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also i didnt realize hexbound dhs are stupid, they attack so slow

kind jay
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while loading, i bet my friend the ogryn would kill him. he didnt listen lmao

empty granite
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guys

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i made a tree

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can you tell whats wrong with it

marble crater
# empty granite can you tell whats wrong with it

It looks like you took two halves of different builds and stitched them together.
Brain Burst and the add ons don't really have great or any synergy with Scrier’s Gaze and Disrupt Destiny for example

empty granite
marble crater
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You can just use the staff instead of brain burst for that, they are similar enough. Better yet is to melee.
Though that is not the best use for that staff and you should change the perks to flak and maniac or elite and focused channeling to Flurry, or Surge if you want to spam primary

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I always played Elektro staff with Brain Burst, just to have kinetic flayer and then down the left side for Venting Shriek and Warp Charges. More staff spamming, more Venting Shriek for more spamming. Much fun

empty granite
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the one where i charge my left hand and send a wave of lightning

wraith sphinx
# empty granite

only one toughness replenishment node is bad, you should remove kinetic resonance subnode and get e.g. soulstealer

empty granite
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keep my peril at 100% quealling briefly between cast

marble crater
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Maybe take some inspiration from a build in the pins

empty granite
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what do i want these to look like?

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i think this is from when it was still rng based system idk

marble crater
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Definitely not wounds

empty granite
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when im at 100% peril, do i need to fully charge this bar or is casting insantly fine?

empty granite
marble crater
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Wounds don't help you survive longer, you need to learn to not explode

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Waste of a talent point and curio slot

marble crater
wraith sphinx
wraith sphinx
marble crater
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Scrier’s Gaze works too

quartz barn
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Run voidstrike
Charge to 100%
Get staggered by basic walker
Attack goes off on its own
Explode

empty granite
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how long does my ult last for and is there any thing visual i can be looking at while using it so i know its about to end and i need to start quelling again

summer token
quartz barn
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I know that theres a mod to make its duration more obvious

summer token
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I forgot the talent that does it

quartz barn
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But i just look at the icon on the buffbar

empty granite
quartz barn
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Coherency, aura, true aim, no clue, ee and cant read the last one

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I think atleast, outside of dd and scriers i dont look at buffs at all

empty granite
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soo how does modding game work

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cuz yeh id use a mod to increase the icon size or make the ult duration more noticeable

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like its weird it doesnt just put whats happening in the buff icon ontop of this

marble crater
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There is a mod that shows you a timer, how modding here works I don't know though

wraith sphinx
# empty granite i been doing this

That is pretty much optimal yeah. I would also recommend reducing peril FX intensity if you find the max peril sound effect to be too loud. It's in the Interface tab of the options menu.

deft stump
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Like, try it with piety zealot.

steel flame
empty granite
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thesaddest i spent 900 for a bone i thought it was a whole remodel of the weapon, but it just has a different base model for zealot than it does for phsyker

steel flame
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Thats one expensive chicken leg

empty granite
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zealot no skin

empty granite
marble crater
empty granite
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is this good ?

dusk timber
dire wharf
dusk timber
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So you shouldnt waste resources on it

deft stump
empty granite
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do i buy these instead ?

deft stump
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Min you work on is a +20% even.

deft stump
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Do not buy before 30.

empty granite
deft stump
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You are wasting melk bux before then.

empty granite
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i dont even know what content ot be running ive only played quick play

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literally no clue what this game about or why im doing things

dusk timber
summer token
deft stump
summer token
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i bought the $30 pack last time and there's been nothing else worth buying so i just have 6700 sitting in my pocket

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this was in like february i think

deft stump
dusk timber
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AcOwOwwytes

summer token
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not particularly, my vet and ogryn are wearing cosmetics you unlocked from penances except for their heads, and i don't really play the other classes

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i've been on a space marine binge last few days and all the good cosmetics are only from penance equivalents, it's glorious

empty granite
cosmic cobalt
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basic bitch psyker cosmetics tbh

radiant frigate
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not wrong

cosmic cobalt
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If you wear this i think less of you unironically

marble crater
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Yeah, I can't stand people who buy what they like and brings them joy, ugh

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Personally I only buy things to impress others and hope they think I'm cool

deft stump
empty granite
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i just bought it cuz closest thing to a traditional mage robe and everything else looked barely different from penance gear

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i just wish i could remove the coat cape thing

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like if they just made that part a backpack instead of part of the chest piece

marble crater
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If you are (un)lucky they will sell it as a new armor at full price KEKW_ogryn

deft stump
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I'm waiting for another coat as cape.

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So I can have a coat on a coat on a coat on a coat.

marble crater
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Clipping is going to be crazy

jovial juniper
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Muhfuh

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It's not that cold down there

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😭

dusk timber
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The clandestium gloriana in question

dire wharf
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Karien did you sleep yet

empty granite
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so this one is good?

marble crater
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Still 1% of from max, but sure. You won't notice the difference in playing, only when checking your inventory and thinking about what there could be instead

dusk timber
empty granite
dusk timber
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Stamina curios are +3 and toughness is +17%

deft stump
marble crater
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In that case you should aim for 8 hours of missing memory

deft stump
deft stump
empty granite
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i dont have any more currenty to keep pulling

rigid sky
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That one is health

dusk timber
empty granite
rigid sky
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Tbh it makes such a small difference anyway, just check Brunt every time an hour passes and you are playing

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If you have 16%s, even 15%s to begin with, you are fine

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Just keep them until you see the 17s show up

cloud folio
empty granite
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what do i put on these

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secret no emoteCatBongo

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i just put +20% chance as curio as item drop from finishing a mission on all 3 of them

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soo 60% total

deft stump
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Is like 12% chance.

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Actually. Like 8-9%.

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20% of 5% is 1%.

empty granite
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i just had a full squad wipe 30 seconds into a new mission on the 1st wave. i got downed and nobody attempted to revive me till my bar was like 70% gone, the 1 player who did had no help and got downed moment i got up soo i tried get them back up other 2 players ran 800m away and got downed same time as me

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quickplay really is quick some times

deft stump
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That is just how pub is. I sometimes question playing with bots is better or worse.

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Or no diff.

dire wharf
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@empty granite what difficulty?

empty granite
deft stump
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Most are Malice or Uprising tier players thinking they are too good for those.

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But not good enough to even get into damnations.

rigid sky
deft stump
empty granite
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i just play heresay cuz theres enough enemies that 1 player isnt soling everything

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also i tried queuing for higher difficulty once and had nobody join for an hour and went back lower

deft stump
jovial juniper
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Totens can still be 1 shot by haymaker

rigid sky
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I say speedrunners, it's more like engagement-minimisers

deft stump
rigid sky
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Goes slower that way thouhh

deft stump
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Bet you if the event was like old, they would get their 500 and be done.

rigid sky
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Plus they skip totems

deft stump
rigid sky
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I genuinely think it's just people with shit personalities

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I am judgemental as fuck about them

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Like people who don't indicate on roundabouts

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(utter utter bastards)

deft stump
quartz barn
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50/50 meant as a joke but also as legit point

deft stump
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I had to block two idiots recently because they were acting like asshats to someone who was slower.

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On malice.

quartz barn
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Why are you playing malice?

deft stump
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I'm just playing half asleep.

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But can't sleep.

rigid sky
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Tbh, it astounds me that this has not been more of a normal thing in this game

quartz barn
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Flexing on first timers smh

rigid sky
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I am pessimistic and anxious as fuck about online gaming communities usually

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Darktide's has been probably the best bunch of randoms I have ever played with in general

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Maybe up there with early team fortress 2

quartz barn
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You also grow into it

deft stump
quartz barn
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Best advice i can give is to know where you stand

deft stump
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Most ppl just play silently.

rigid sky
quartz barn
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And make a mental canon about where others stand to preserve your sanity

rigid sky
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League of Legends really did a number on my mental health tbh

deft stump
quartz barn
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I mean i was a jungle main in league

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Fun times

deft stump
quartz barn
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Real way to play jungle is to pin the other team's lanes against their jungler

rigid sky
quartz barn
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And win because theyre just argueing all the time KEKW_ogryn

deft stump
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Everyone gets a 'nade.

deft stump
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A good Jungler shows up every so often to jump idiots that eat enough chip and chase me to tower things.

empty granite
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yey 3 of my team mates got downed infront of me in middle of a crowd of everything, i miss timed my thing and overloaded. exploding everything around me so i was able to revive 2 players and they revived the 3rd

plucky flax
dire wharf
plucky flax
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She's built different

deft stump
plucky flax
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Thought you're on the same as vietnam time

dire wharf
deft stump
plucky flax
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I actually just got here yesterday

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Damn bruh is so hot

deft stump
marble crater
deft stump
plucky flax
marble crater
plucky flax
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Cosmetic surgery tour

marble crater
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This guy is always somewhere else

deft stump
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SEA night temps.

plucky flax
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I want to stay home more tbh I dont like to travel

dire wharf
deft stump
plucky flax
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But its so much cheaper if I want to do eyes surgery here compare to uk

dire wharf
plucky flax
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Gomna get rid of my annoying glasses I put up with for the last 10 years

plucky flax
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Never getting dogged or trapped from behind again

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Don't stare

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@marble crater help

marble crater
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Maybe she also needs eye surgery to reduce the starring at people staregryn

marble crater
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I don't have that kind of money

dire wharf
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I tell you using the backside buttons on the elite 2 controller has been such a game changer for playing on controller

marble crater
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Back paddles are very nice indeed

deft stump
marble crater
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Technically wasn't talking to us directly

deft stump
marble crater
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Can't wait for my controller to break eventually so I can justify buying a new one staregryn

deft stump
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Though was thinking maybe just getting the G7pro 8k like months later.

deft stump
plucky flax
deft stump
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It's no secret we use Gamesir controllers.

deft stump
plucky flax
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Buy steam controller

deft stump
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Literally not avaliable in region.

crisp oriole
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I havent touched darktide in a while, but reading patch notes rn
did they really buff inferno staff??

jovial juniper
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3 times

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In the same patch

marble crater
deft stump
marble crater
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The normal pro will have to do then

deft stump
dire wharf
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@deft stump @marble crater how do you have your back buttons set up?

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I have dodge on the right amd slide on the left

marble crater
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Left is combat ability and right is switching to blitz

crisp oriole
jovial juniper
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Then they removed crushers from the game

fading sentinel
fading sentinel
crisp oriole
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Psykers are main characters now

deft stump
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I'm too lazy to change it just for Darktide.

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It's been the sticks.

crisp oriole
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Rest of the team are like robins running behind batman

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Bros Im about to download darktide again and try out this massive inferno nerf

fading sentinel
crisp oriole
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Liability

fading sentinel
dire wharf
fading sentinel
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playing havoc 40s again made me realise still that psykers hug near ogryns like nothing.

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they follow you like rats lol

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but they keep a bubble around me so I'm happy.

deft stump
dire wharf
deft stump
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Now my bumpers die faster lul.

dire wharf
deft stump
dire wharf
deft stump
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I have an old T4Kaleid.

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Upgrading will be much later. Too ex, so dealing with a half ded left bumper.

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Because Darktide lul.

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It still works, but gotta be pressed in a specific spot basically.

dire wharf
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Karien out here playing with a half broken controller and 300+ ping and still kicking butt

deft stump
dusk timber
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everyone say thanks to karien for carrying us

deft stump
dire wharf
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Now i feel extra bad for causing us to wipe

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I added sprint and special to the back too, lets see if my brain can adjust

marble crater
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Karien carried me in h40, there is even video evidence of it

deft stump
plucky flax
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Its sold out in uk anyway. Unavailable for order

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I have it on my wishlist

deft stump
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Also, I don't like the Dpad positioning lul. Am just used to Xbox style.

plucky flax
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Ps > xbox style

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You as an Asian with small hands should prefer ps

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Unless you have big hands idk

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Me hands smol

deft stump
plucky flax
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Dainty digits?

deft stump
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Also, I like bigger mouses as well.

plucky flax
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I use g502 thats the biggest i would go

deft stump
plucky flax
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Man that's good deal for g502

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Wireless?

deft stump
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I had it for years now though.

plucky flax
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Wired in 2026 D:

white sky
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My favorite mouse was the G600 and Logi doesn't make it anymore

mental rock
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I got a g703

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With a power mouse pad for wireless charging

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I quite like it

dire wharf
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I wish my hands had more fingers

icy breach
mental rock
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That's why you get wireless charging chadgryn

icy breach
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I prefer cable - reliable

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And can always use it to whip your ass

mental rock
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Fair, but I've never had issues with my current setup

icy breach
mental rock
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I was once in the wired only crew myself

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But I have seen the light

mental rock
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A small price to pay(for me)

silver wing
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the only thing id use wireless is a headset

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otherwise wired is more reliable

mental rock
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Y'all say that but I've had way more issues with wired mouse than wireless, although I guess you could argue that's anecdotal

silver wing
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ive had the same wired mouse for like nearly 10 years

mental rock
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And I've had to replace 4x wired mouses, while none of my wireless have had problems

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So what's your point

deft stump
silver wing
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i mean tech stuff is just rng tbh

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sometimes its just buns no matter if its wireless or wired

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and breaks a month after you get it

mental rock
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Gee it's almost like arguing about these types of personal experiences is pointless because it's all anecdotal anyway

mental rock
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Its why I no longer think of wired as more reliable

deft stump
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They drift after a week to a month for me.

silver wing
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or less

deft stump
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A controller half it's price lasted me 5 years now?

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Is why I never complained about the Gamesir. It really did endure alot of things.

silver wing
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i have a whack ass gamepad that's still alive

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the logitech f710

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i got it a while back and its served me well

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it outlasted like 4 ps5 controllers

terse lintel
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smash or pass?

icy breach
terse lintel
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and how much aquilas can be considered lowcost how much do i have to pay

icy breach
dire wharf
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Added a 3rd back button and my brain said FU

deft stump
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And I found out M$ really doesn't want ppl opening up their newer controllers.

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Karking thing is hell to open.

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Like, 360 controller is easy. One/X/S is hell.

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And to be fair, that one showed signs of degraded potentiometer.

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After 1 week.

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IDK what TEMU grade thing they used.

dire wharf
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@deft stump weapon special on a button instead of stick button is sooo nice

timber finch
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I have this visual issue with the "scholastia psykana" chestpiece, occurs modded and unmodded, at highest and lowest fov , seems to be rare for others

deft stump
marble crater
marble crater
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Just too unfamiliar KEKW_ogryn

clear stag
dire wharf
deft stump
dire wharf
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I'm a little procrastinator

steel flame
radiant frigate
steel flame
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Some would simply call that endurance

thorn cedar
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You can do it actually.

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Smite to 100%, the autoquell kicks in, do right click again and it'll take you to 100% during the charge animation and then when you go to fire you'll perils

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I have done it, more than I like to admit, mostly because of JaD.

clear sundial
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is warp unbound good?

crisp ether
clear sundial
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the 10 seconds countdown is quite hidden though

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and I have to remember to lower peril or I die

crisp ether
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Honestly I actually don't think it's all that useful particularly for that staff unless you're running an extremely low Warp res build

clear sundial
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or is the bubble shield better

marble crater
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Venting Shriek

clear sundial
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its a fart

marble crater
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What does that mean

crisp ether
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As in its not that strong?

thorn cedar
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based opinion

verbal thistle
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based

crisp ether
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I mean, extremely based tbh

thorn cedar
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i too think the peril fart is boring and stinky

crisp ether
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Venting shriek is really one note imho

clear sundial
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feels like worse voice of command

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or whatever broken thing veteran gets

crisp ether
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And is very broken in its own right

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But it's also boring so

thorn cedar
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VoC is a bit better now since you aren't guaranteed 100% gold toughness uptime anymore

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So you do actually have you use your head SOMETIMES before pressing F

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instead of just doing it off cooldown every time

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But it's not like, substantially more involved or anything for this change, it's just a bit more.

crisp ether
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Bubble shield is good and easy to get value out of. Gaze is in that same vein of brokenness except you actually do kinda need to know what you're doing with it.

clear sundial
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what staff is good with warp unbound?

crisp ether
keen cargo
verbal thistle
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all

crisp ether
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I mean all of them are pretty good.

thorn cedar
#

Fire is the least good with it but they are all good with it.

verbal thistle
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every single thing in psyker's kit works good with high peril

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literally how the class is built

crisp ether
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But EK Gaze is... something else

clear sundial
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walmart smite

crisp ether
keen cargo
verbal thistle
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me when I lie

crisp ether
clear sundial
keen cargo
clear sundial
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also how does blaze force sword work?

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how do I know when its charged

thorn cedar
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you swing it at enemies and they hurt

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oh

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you use special and itll make a noise until you swing at a baddie

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or it expires after .... five seconds?

keen cargo
#

yes precisely, i tried out a lot of stuff with it and played a lot of the primary spam with double shot

clear sundial
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also I think with warp unbound I can tank anything with deflector blessing on sword and stamina to peril guard perk

keen cargo
thorn cedar
crisp ether
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Cuz honestly inferno gaze while it's strong

thorn cedar
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yea

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what salty said

crisp ether
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It's kinda awkward.

jovial juniper
#

No no I agree
Ek sucks
#buffEK

thorn cedar
#

it's the same with Just a Dream, the talent turns off when you're at and above 97%, even if you can't explode.

crisp ether
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Like having near 100% crit and turning EK into a machine gun just gets nuts with Warp unbound and EE

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It is genuinely not okay lol

patent steeple
patent steeple
thorn cedar
#

Also nullifies most of the nonsense that is pox gas.

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(Quietude is of course needed)

keen cargo
#

Who the hell playing psyker is below 25% peril at any time like wtf

verbal thistle
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me

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recently I've been using 0% peril build

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its been fun

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the entire match I dont gain any peril

fathom adder
#

Perils of the Warp when Safety of Realspace shows up:

olive oar
rugged mountain
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anyone have a good psyker build for a new player

thorn cedar
#

what's your character level

rugged mountain
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15

thorn cedar
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just keep vibing

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assail is a solid pick

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but builds are always going to assume you have all 30 talent points available to spend for synergies and stuff so its not worth worrying about any of that yet

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best you can do is focus on taking less and less damage every game and find new weapons to try that you enjoy swinging

rugged mountain
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alright

clear sundial
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whens next shop rotation?

jovial juniper
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But it doesn't line up with Skittles release

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Jun 4 and jun 18 are supposed to be rotations

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Skibidi drops jun 23

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So maybe they'll postpone the 18

keen cargo
# thorn cedar assail is a solid pick

i disliked assail for long but man it's so good i take it 100% of the time now after hundreds of hours of gameplay on psyker really assail is king of clutch

thorn cedar
#

I just enjoy the micro of being able to weave it inbetween melee/ranged attacks and having what is essentially infinite back-up ammo for special sniping

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And yeah it helps it's pretty strong lol

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I find Smite fills a similar niche but the micro of swapping to it for the left click is a bit jankier/more involved unfortunately

keen cargo
#

i really dislike smite, it slows the pace of the game

thorn cedar
#

Yeah Smykers suck but Smite is pretty dope

keen cargo
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you should not be pausing as a psyker you should just be non stop agressive (i feel like)

thorn cedar
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Love the blitz, hate how most people approach it.

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It's somewhat on FatShark to figure out a solution to rein it in but at this point it's pretty clear that they're okay with it doing what it's doing (infinite Smykers)

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All the numbers are still correct at least.

keen cargo
#

thanks

thorn cedar
#

very welcome

olive oar
# thorn cedar This was old tree stuff but I made an attempt to argue against Smykers as best a...

This take is numerically correct and completely wrong. When they measure the time to kill a single unit and use that as a scale it misses the most important aspect of the Smyker, is that they can kill 100 enemies at the same time. So yeah, measuring the kill time by units, it will seem low, but it takes 18 seconds to kill a Havoc 40 Rager , but it also takes 18 seconds to kill 40 Ragers.

#

This is my dedicated Smyker build, usually I take the vanguard or rearguard and kill everything all at once, if not enough targets are present, due to Charged Strike, I can switch to melee and attack ( A sore weakness of the smyker build, that people disregard as most don't understand the build inherent weakness. ).
https://youtu.be/p4455DhoR6c

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a1615cb0-dfc3-4615-b8f6-9c6cc6911df3/devils-smiting-claw

As players are asking about Smite and Charged Strike I've seen a common misconception here, one is that Smite deals no damage no matter what, and the second is that Charged Strike is weak, both are wrongs and I hope this build can demonstrate this....

▶ Play video
thorn cedar
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Incorrect, you slowly kill 100 enemies with baked in damage fall off as the tethers spread. You are not dropping all 100 targets in the same window, just in the same cast.

olive oar
#

Or this showcase in the psykanium, a pretty impressive time, I might add.
https://youtu.be/KGmjfwm041U

Small demonstration in Auric difficulty of what Smite can do.
In game completion timer is completely wrong, as it counted the timer in the moment of the enemy spawn, not when I enabled the AI, so the true completion timer is about: One minute and forty four seconds, or 104 seconds.
Attacked one enemy before the test to gain one charge of Empower...

▶ Play video
thorn cedar
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With EP this is still pretty quick but it is still more flashy than it is impressive.

#

Mostly though the post is to discredit the use of Smite as your only damage source and/or as a mechanism to feed Creeping Flames

olive oar
#

Most of my games with Smyker, I'm the most damage dealer or second most. It's pretty competent, but I might add that I'm competent at slide dodging all the way to keep myself where I'm needed.

crisp ether
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So you really do just

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Hold smite

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The whole game?

thorn cedar
#

Smykers do that, yeah. He's definitionally correct.

crisp ether
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😐

dire wharf
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And afterwards too, I don't stop until the TV turns off

marble crater
crisp ether
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Thank you Ainz, very cool. 😭

dire wharf
#

In the words of the famous psyker DMX; they see me smitin', they hatin, patrollin, and tryna catch me smitin' dirty

jovial juniper
marble crater
#

Also how you play smite incorrectly

keen cargo
#

i see people writing "o7"
anyone know what it means ?

marble crater
#

It's a salute

keen cargo
#

ahhh lol i see

marble crater
#

The 7 is the arm

olive oar
# crisp ether Hold smite

Hold, or press the button. But it's not that simple, otherwise everyone with an Inferno staff build would be a top player.

crisp ether
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What you're doing.

olive oar
#

Aren't we all doing that? I, when playing smyker have to decide when to cast it, when to stop casting, when to activate SG and so forth and so on. Thing is, some people think it's not fun, for me that view is completely valid. What I don't accept is to call it weak.

ripe gazelle
#

brain burst with the free burst talent i lowkey cant drop that. on top of smite being harmful/unfun half the time...

ripe gazelle
crisp ether
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Not every person that uses it does that either.

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That's why there's a specification for a psyker that uses smite, and a "Smyker"

olive oar
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Most of my current builds that I use smite is not a Smyker. I'm using it most for the charged strike. That's a beast.

crisp ether
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No one thinks Smite is weak

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What a lot do think is that it shouldn't exist in a state where you can reach an infinite cast

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Which is what that reddit post was getting at actually

olive oar
ripe gazelle
#

more damage less time would be super cool in my wholly inexperienced and uninformed opinion

crisp ether
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Honestly smite being a sustainable stun that you have to hold doesn't even sound like something that should be called "smite"

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If it was like a sudden cast that causes a hard stun in an AoE that does good damage? Now that sounds like something that can be called Smite.

thorn cedar
#

Right now the cast off is worth 500ms of cast time in damage, you could just up that number significantly so as to incentivize letting the button go

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Imagine if letting Smite go did the equivalent of five seconds of smiting in damage

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You would always be better served doing small bursts under five seconds

olive oar
#

And I can't think of a solution that would please everyone and make Smite do similar damage, as the way it currently is, it CAN deal a lot of damage, specially on how dense the hordes are.

thorn cedar
#

That's what we want though.

fathom adder
thorn cedar
#

We want it to do its damage quicker so people aren't just holding the thing down for twenty seconds.

olive oar
thorn cedar
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But we also want it to be able to be held down for lengthy periods if/when a player would like for those occassions where you really do need to stop twenty crushers and maulers and ragers to do a revive/obj.

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So the trick is to just make short bursts more valuable by ... moving the values.

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That way players don't mentally trap themselves into thinking holding smite for twenty seconds is what's doing damage

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(Becasue it won't be anymore)

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I also want left-click Smite to no longer consume EP charges

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But that's just for me, just a little treat for daddy.

rich spindle
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Free stunlock on command is boring

crisp ether
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Maybe a multifunctional deal where M1 is a sudden stun with good damage with a good chunk of peril generated and M2 is the sustainable one but the sustainable one is also tweaked so it's not as sustainable but does more dps, at increased peril generation.

thorn cedar
rich spindle
#

That could be fun

fathom adder
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Smite having an instantaneous effect would also work a lot better with EP (assuming EP doesn't change much), the current EP incentivizes holding down Smite as long as possible (or at least until you get your charge back)

crisp ether
#

Like it's just weird

thorn cedar
#

since EP just goes "triple this" to all damage smite does, cast-off included

crisp ether
#

That m1 is just a weaker but slightly quicker to cast hold to stun

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They could have made the ability more interesting actually giving m1 a different purpose

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But alas

rich spindle
#

Peril is too ez. You need some trade off to not make stunlock boring game design

crisp ether
thorn cedar
crisp ether
thorn cedar
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Scab Ragers and Maulers are the breakpoint yeah

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everything else tho, they stop

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and even the Ragers/Maulers stop when you let it go

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You gotta fight your brain on that one though

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cause if youre pannicked your brain is gonna tell you to keep holding it down until they stun but actually you have to stop smiting so that the castoff staggers them

crisp ether
#

See this is kinda what confuses me about it then. Because yeah it has the means to instant stagger on let go.

And yet you can still hold M1 even if M1 is only gonna be for one target to get off your ass

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So why does it even have the ability to be held in that case?

thorn cedar
#

It's just that at 10 hitmass those two fuckers break the rules a bit.

#

They'll still stun if you hold it down but it takes slightly longer.

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If you're looking to stop an attack from them then you have to watch the tether latch and then let it go, and then the two stagger effects together are enough to stop them.

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Everything else you stun them the instant the tether reaches.

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(Except for Ogryns and other obvious shit, also Nurgle Blessing)

crisp ether
#

If anything M1 having a hold to stun could just be misleading people into thinking that's the optimal way to do it.

thorn cedar
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For me it's the fact that it draws and fires instantly clued me in that it's really just for point-and-click control.

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Flamer about to flame you? G+M1 then swap back.

crisp ether
thorn cedar
#

Definitely not seeing as I blow a lot of people's minds with my post lol

crisp ether
#

And that's honestly my big issue with Smite and how it teaches bad habits

thorn cedar
#

Doesn't help that the vast majority of guides do the same.

crisp ether
#

It leads you to a thought process that actually isn't helping you as a player

thorn cedar
#

"Win Games With This INSANE One Click Build!!! 🤓 ☝️ "

fathom adder
#

What if:

Smite LMB: Near instantaneous to cast, zap target you're aiming at for minor damage (not improved much by EP), heavy stun, electrocute debuff. Reasonable cooldown prevents spamming despite fast initial cast time.

Smite RMB: Hold to charge and LMB to cast, like a Staff. Zap target you're aiming at for moderate damage and heavy stun, lightning chains to more targets (subject to hitmass), deals more damage, and causes longer stun based on charge time. Electrocutes all affected targets. Longer charge also = longer cooldown. EP can improve any combination of damage, stun duration, cleave, cooldown, cast time.

olive oar
fathom adder
#

If we want to go really crazy with it, make this version of Smite apply Soulblaze stacks based on charge time too

thorn cedar
spice aurora
#

i hate party findr

kind jay
#

party decliner

spice aurora
#

scum and psyker xd

kind jay
daring epoch
#

scrier smite is still good? no one talks about recently for some reason

lone ravine
#

probably because stunlocking an entire screen to death is kinda boring

daring epoch
#

what would yall say would be a fun build then

lone ravine
#

any other scriers build would probably be more enjoyable

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meleeker is stupid powerful and silly to do

marble crater
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Elektro, Assail, Dueling Sword, Gaze

daring epoch
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flame?

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i like being a caster

buoyant maple
daring epoch
knotty saddle
#

I dont recognize those

marble crater
buoyant maple
daring epoch
buoyant maple
marble crater
#

They are all part of the same build, for more builds check out the pinned message here in the channel

jovial juniper
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Too good even

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And if you ask me what's a fun build

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Double Shield

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Brain Burst

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Hands gameplay

open pulsar
marble crater
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at putting people to sleep

knotty saddle
plucky flax
rich spindle
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Flat bubble knight

fathom adder
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Knight of the Wall

toxic slate
#

hi

dire wharf
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Toughness is always good

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Toughness, stamina, combat regen, gunner resist

knotty saddle
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I always go triple gunner resist

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because fk gunners

wind spruce
#

A staff, a blitz and a combat ability = unfathomable

knotty saddle
#

I only recognize cds

wind spruce
wind spruce
daring rose
#

Heh, Gun-psyker with the Heavy Lasp feels nice

dire wharf
daring rose
#

Found someone probably running the same kit as me

wind spruce
daring rose
wind spruce
daring rose
#

But the greaty does feel good

wind spruce
subtle edge
#

Any recent builds for this class that are pretty good?

nocturne oxide
subtle edge
#

Lol

dire wharf
kind jay
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do items have cooties or something? whys everyone so afraid to pick up crates and ammo lately

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like i dont mind when im using a gun cause hey all the ammo for me (even with 2-3 other ammo users)

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but my braincell is frying

wraith sphinx
kind jay
#

shhh dont tell them that

wraith sphinx
#

No they already know

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You're done for buddy sorry

kind jay
#

my moms gonna kill me bro

clear sundial
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Is infinite caster build good for endgame?

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Warp unbound type shi

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With staff and BFG + deflector and stamina to peril guard for tanky.

rich spindle
plucky flax
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No you must play inferno and bubble

clear sundial
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how do I reach high crit rate?

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are there staff perks that boost crit?

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I need it for empathic evasion

quartz barn
#

Warp nexus can give up to 20% based on your peril, the 20% is at 80+

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Crit chance perk, 5%

clear sundial
#

so I need it

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also whats the difference between BFG and BFS

quartz barn
#

Warp nexus is pretty staple on all staves, basically reach 80 peril and get into the cast-cast-quell rythm

clear sundial
#

I also run warp unbound

steady turtle
#

So i took a couple years break (i think) and now coming back it feels like my level 21 psyker does zero damage lol doesn't help that i cannot equip my better gear for some reason?

#

What sort of builds do well right now? I was trying to make smite work i think its called with the electricity and i was using the electric staff with the force sword, i honestly felt more effective just using my sword because when using my lightning it took forever to kill anything and i was mostly just holding things in place until my team killed them for me

leaden berry
# steady turtle What sort of builds do well right now? I was trying to make smite work i think i...

Smite isn’t used for damage, it’s used for massive amounts of CC, basically an “oh shit!” button.
They’ve gutted the electro staff’s CC ability and turned it into more of a single target damage dealer. There are ways to make smite actually dish out some decent damage but you need the Empowered Psyonics keystone. You could even take Scrier’s Gaze with this and become the ultimate sith lord

silver wing
#

smite is used to make your teammates hate you

leaden berry
#

Rn the meta seems to focused around inferno staff + bubble and crit Soulblaze build. But basically any crit build with Psyker will net you some serious damage

leaden berry
silver wing
long saddle
#

it's not only that, because a lot of classes have talents that rely on dodging that you then prevent from everyone else

silver wing
#

you nuke zealot's survivability if he can't dodge

long saddle
#

it also makes the game fucking boring

#

if psyker wants to "support" then at least shield is static

leaden berry
long saddle
#

but best support is always killing

kind jay
#

it turns the game off, effectively

rich spindle
long saddle
#

instead of just stupid

leaden berry
leaden berry
#

Okay that DOES look hella annoying

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I shall be changing my ways for the good of the team lol

kind jay
long saddle
#

it also keeps stuff spread out instead of them grouping up for good clearing

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and who knows when the smyker stops and you're suddenly surrounded by a bunch of stuff

leaden berry
#

Personally I’m a voidstrike scriers enjoyer

long saddle
#

ye it's the only way I'd play with ball

leaden berry
#

Fatshark, we NEED more staves

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I don’t play a space wizard to use a gun

kind jay
#

we do need more staves but gunker is pretty fun

#

a gun is just a staff that shoots bullets or lasers

leaden berry
#

Ye but we already have every other class for guns
I want more space magic

steady turtle
#

Because those two are what i was using and the damage was absolutely pathetic still lol

#

Like 150% of my peril to just about kill a small horde of trash enemies on diff 2

marble crater
#

EP gives you empowered Blitz with a chance to refill a charge

cosmic cobalt
steady turtle
potent echo
#

Can they ever make smite a damage blitz

steady turtle
#

Maybe i set my stuff up wrong but yeah smite damage with as much investment as i could was pathetic lol

#

I was a cc bot that did more damage with my sword

potent echo
#

cc bot is true

#

Imagine if we could customise bot players

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Mm triple smyker

quartz barn
#

Inb4 true survivor h40 all bot run

kind jay
#

granted but an immortal burgle follows you the entire game and if it touches you, you die

quartz barn
#

Thats just a chaos wastes modifier

kind jay
#

no. it reads your diary out loud instead

radiant frigate
#

anyway that just sounds like a normal lore-accurate burgle

radiant frigate
potent echo
#

Hamburgle

drifting oar
# leaden berry I shall be changing my ways for the good of the team lol

The time to use smite is when you see people getting overwhelmed and that's about it.
You know they're getting overwhelmed because most haven't unbound jump from the dodge button and they turn into kangaroos 🦘
Once they start clearing and you're reasonably sure they can handle the rest, pull your weapons back out. 🙂

potent echo
#

Or you can just throw 1 assail and delete the entire horde

drifting oar
#

Exactly

rigid sky
fierce peak
#

980hrs in and I'm playing my 30 Psyker now

dire wharf
#

Psyker is squishy but fun

wraith sphinx
#

@radiant frigate I have bonded with the funny elf over shitty teammates today :^)

restive nebula
#

Does cleave do anything for inferno staff?

jovial juniper
#

No

#

The cons of not interacting with cleave

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Wait

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It does

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Buff the cleave on your melee bash

#

💀

dusk timber
#

Nerf the cleave on your melee

quartz barn
#

Can staff bonk even multihit

#

Like will that cleave bonus allow it to hit more enemies

jovial juniper
#

Yea
22 cleave
Second highest non infinite cleave in the game

olive oar
leaden berry
deft stump
olive oar
#

And you guys stop sullying Smite's good name while I'm sleeping, just like the Emperor I do watch!

marble crater
#

Is the good name here with us right now?

jovial juniper
thorn cedar
#

Smykers can continue eating my ass.

deft stump
rich spindle
#

Smite and blazing spirit are the greatest things in the game

jovial juniper
#

#thatswhyfatsharkshouldbuffitmore

quartz barn
silent bay
#

What's the dump stat on the Electromagnetic Force Staff?

marble crater
#

Warp res of course

silent bay
#

is that the dump stat on all stalves?

marble crater
#

Not voidSTRIKE, there it's radius, but for anything else that has warp res, it's warp res

jovial juniper
#

If M1 maxxing charge rate

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If M2 maxxing Warp res

jovial juniper
#

Well, you see
If you're just blue balling people you don't really need charge

silent bay
#

And for pretty much all melee it's either mobility or a defensive right?

silver wing
#

dump warp res on force swords and mobility/defense otherwise

#

sometimes cleave targets

thorn cedar
#

dump damage so you can fight longer and enjoy more darktide

deft stump
olive oar
marble crater
#

On voidblast, sure

#

Not on voidstrike

olive oar
#

Yes Voidtrike

deft stump
marble crater
#

I'm not having this conversation KEKW_ogryn

deft stump
#

Sadly.

olive oar
#

Pick the build I posted, test it out and see by yourselves, tell me if it needs a buff after that.

jovial juniper
#

It's psyker
It always needs a buff

#

Fatshark knows that

silver wing
main jolt
#

psyker getting neglected is accurate to the lore clueless

deft stump
main jolt
#

should i use the obscurus or the deimos for a flamestaff build Sitgryn

jovial juniper
#

Obscurus for big damage
Deimos for safety

main jolt
#

i'll give the obscurus a try

dire wharf
#

How come BFG's don't got cool names

#

Just mk 6 and 8

jovial juniper
#

Covenant is right there 😭

#

It's also like
Name of the planet of origin

#

Deimos is Mars moon though

quartz barn
cloud folio
#

did the event get harder?

quartz barn
#

Did they fix it atleast

#

Or are we still on 5 aquillas

cloud folio
#

no it progresses

#

and now we are at after 30

quartz barn
#

No clue if it got harder tho

#

I did all my runs on sunday and would instabreak totems with scum's rpg

jovial juniper
#

No clue if it got any harder but I played most of mine last Saturday and gambled on insta killing the totems

#

The hardest mission I had was Excise Vault because the totems were all near the end of the map

dire wharf
#

Embarassing failure on no mans land, fell off the bridge twice

cloud folio
void quarry
#

Holy shit Pick N Mix sucked but finially got it

#

Just took a horde of 50 shotgunners to get lucky enough for the vets not to kill em all

cosmic cobalt
#

oh damn

#

apparently dd is broken again

#

if you got killed and revived it no longer mark shit

olive oar
cosmic cobalt
#

this is the first time this happened to me

mental rock
#

Same with cliffhanger, and malleus

iron grail
#

New to the game, smite a good blitz?

mental rock
#

They're all good

night hound
#

So what's the 'meta'/safest or easiest pysker build for someone who doesn't play psyker?

sturdy reef
#

is anyone else getting repeated crashes as soon as they try to launch the game?

#

and I did disable my mods

void quarry
#

Still doesn't beat taking no melee damage with vet because holy hell that was a nightmare

mental rock
#

Eh it wasn't that bad for me, just do a low int malice

spice oar
#

= win game

mental rock
#

Think I got on overwatch second try

void quarry
#

Eh I did it back in day one with the old pens as I did both in the same game.

snow granite
#

Is 80% Warp Resistance ideal on the Voidblast staff? been using one at 60% and I feel like I'm building peril too fast.

fathom adder
#

Warp Resistance doesn't scale much from 60-80 and Voidblast doesn't want to dump anything else

night hound
snow granite
#

There's a google doc in the pinned messages, dunno how up to date it is.

fathom adder
#

It's mostly up to date, the only major change recently is that you can't use Uncanny Strike on melee to boost your damage against everything you've set on fire anymore

edgy heart
#

can i take in fire reborn without flame staff? just with perilous combustion and wildfire? or will psychic vampire be better in that case?

dire wharf
#

@night hound there are tons of great builds pinned

marble crater
ripe obsidian
# wind spruce You rn

I am daring. I've only looked at this chat like once in the last month; you should be honored to be so blessed as to receive my reply.

ripe obsidian
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PC + Wildfire will struggle with uptime, depending on difficulty and how effective you are at killing elites, but IFR is still potentially better than Psychic Vampire.

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IFR is not limited by coherency. And if you're using fire shriek, that'll make a huge difference, too.

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I generally only take Psychic Vampire in the rare instance I am using a) a Telekine Shield build that is b) not melee and c) not using a staff that produces fire.

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B/c fire shriek means, well, fire. Melee means you should be using DD, not WS.

ripe obsidian
fathom adder
thorn cedar
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Yeah it's not nearly as absurdly free as it was before.

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Really it's better that somebody else runs Uncanny for you and hits the Crushers instead of you swapping.

ripe obsidian
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Does it still work with force sword pushes?

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Push attacks*

dusk timber
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probably

ripe obsidian
dusk timber
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but it would apply only individually to each crusher you hit