#psyker-class
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@buoyant maple If I remember correctly yout talked about the Illisi cleave, and I got say that using Charged Strike with BOTH +strength blessings with the Illisi is a game changer to that weapon. It becomes something of another world. SG and DD, it becomes a killing machine.
Question, which one?
Zarona Combat Shotgun, in the build I just posted
So why am I doing scrier's gaze
You're running blazing spirit FGS on a build with 22.5% crit. Couldve atleast taken riposte over unstable power.
Watched too many YouTube videos
I tried them both and I proc soulfire enough without the extra crit. I'm always at critical peril so the strength scaling wins out.
It's also 27.5% crit because souldrinker is always active.
Not in the particular build that I posted, but I do have one that uses SG.
Cool
Honestly, it's for the penance I forgot to switch off of
It can be nice, but ig I need that greaty
True, i was going to say it would take you an average of 13.5 hits to max out soulblaze from blazing spirit on a target but its actually only 11.1 hits. Game changer.
Here with SG, more melee focused.
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a1063036-3b23-4c68-9de0-5da6f0f1817a/warp-lightning-battle-mage
Wait did they remove the soulblaze cap from melee blazing spirit ?!?
I swear it used to say max 12 stacks
Just try the build or don't. You proc it off elite kills, enemies dying while it's on them, etc. It's meant to be a team centric Frontline build with durability while retaining good damage.
Heh, the Lasp is nice but is for picking things off
Fast move speed, weapon swap, reload. I guess it depends how much you use the gun vs the sword.
I would like to use more gun than sword
Pretty sure it's still 12 stacks
It's 12 stacks, but you're delivering them with a whack to the head. Like, they won't live much after that. The thing about blazing spirit is that it gives its value when you're in a big skirmish, single targets you won't notice its effects.
Wait a minute. You run a build that's meant to be constantly high peril
But don't take the node that pretty much makes you near permanently stun immune for doing so

Did not notice any improvement with it. Useless for me.
I pray a rager never finds your backside.
I try to avoid being hit in the back, the game is pretty harsh when that happens.
Yeah. That's why that talent is so good.
It's hard to be a frontliner when a single walker can completely kill your momentum.
Well that hasn't happened much if at all for me. Did you try it or just here to be a negative presence without even giving it a shot?
Dude bubble knight is one of the two psyker builds I run in Havoc.
Ya said its harsh when something hits you from behind. The entire point of that talent is to stop the snowballing that can happen from that exact scenario so not having that on a build meant to be more of a frontliner is just, odd.
Hell my build is still in the Psyker guide here I think 
It's very much still a melee psyker build. Just not like, giga sauced with Scrier's
I like my giga sauce
FGS still be doing the big damage
Ive been using the obscurus ever since the FS buff
its good
just do a bit more assail weaving for hordes
Obscurus honestly kinda won out of the three from the update I think
Deimos damage actually did take a bit of a hit with uncanny nerf
deimos macro'ers in shambles
Deimos had and still has that insane thrust stagger.
You don't have to macro it though.
a fine shot!
It's pretty easy to do just naturally.
Bubble knight op you must be pro
It's fun, idk what to say

should we report bubble knight to fatshark for nerfing?
thats what were doing today right
Yeah let's nerf bubble knight
If the psyker is not running bubble inferno I'm not taking them
Where is my chorus zealot?!
where is my taunt gryn?
Where is the taunt?!
Where's my boom box Arby's
this
HK server vibes tbh
Smoke vets on hk servers are op though
I mean a good smoke vet in general is op
US vets make me wanna cry honestly
And chinese ogryns are op
So many of them running shocktroop recon now 😭
Eu ogryns just feed or rumbler spam
helbore my beloved
hey it's better than. no shocktrooper recon
👍
yeah I never see smoke vet in NA anymore
after the krak buff
we dont have carapace hordes nearly as much so you would think smokes/frags become more favorable
I've been using frags a lot.
my tree got deleted
how do i build it i wanna use this
althought now that you can buy weapon until its got good stats instead of waiting 80 years for osmething partially useable to be in stock exists maybe not this staff specifically
click the crit stuff
wait why do weapons cost like 11k on my physker teh ywere only 3k on my zealot 
Lvls.
Higher lvls raises the item lvl you can get and the cost of it.
i dont know what the dump stat is 
Dump warp resist.
like this?
Yeah. It'll work for both rmb and lmb builds.
Are you firing primary shots or the alt fire shocks?
the unlimited power one that chains between everything and makes it all explode
At that point, why care about staff when you just want to spam that uselessly?
its been a while since i used my physker. around launch when gear was purely rng based on what the shop sold you or you got at the end of a mission
to do it better ?
i wanna make it good its been really long time since i last used phsyker
i just remmeber casting lighting that chained across all the enemies like that starwars guy
do i just copy these perks ?
I don't like smite so can't help you on it. All I know is staves don't matter if you are just going to spam it.
the one where you do this
and you spam quell between every cast so it stays at 100%
Evil bait
take a look at the pinned google doc guide for psyker
tho i'm unsure if they have rmb builds or only lmb for ek
They want a smite build.
Palpatine build.
It disgusts me to no end every time I get one in my runs.
unfortunately this too is in the doc
i think they mean rmb tho judging from the above screenshots
I guess they mean old EK where it was smite 2.0.
from what i can remember from when i used to play this class in 2022/2023 i liked using some ability that let me pop the heads of any elite and just managing keeping my queal between 90 and 100%
Brain burst?
I'll say this, EK no longer works like it did. It's basically a single target staff now.
is it tho i am damaging this guy
ive got no perks in my skill tree atm so idk if it stay the same or could be better
It's basically single target that stuns a secondary target as well.
i like stuns, stuns are good you cant take damage when what you're not looking at cant move
Yes, but it no longer affects a group. Damage was increased while number of targets got lowered.
yep pls buff inferno nextp atch fs
You still do, they are the strongest class still.
Well, skitarii might release super busted though.
Like the other DLC classes before they got nerfed.
Yeah I'm counting on it
And I'm expecting them to be nerfed.
i almost kill everything but clip is corrupted I HATE SHADOWPLAY
still lost but it felt cool almost doin it
1/4 hp on last dh left then i get trapped >:|
who else is gonna run ahead and spawn 999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 bosses
also i didnt realize hexbound dhs are stupid, they attack so slow
while loading, i bet my friend the ogryn would kill him. he didnt listen lmao
It looks like you took two halves of different builds and stitched them together.
Brain Burst and the add ons don't really have great or any synergy with Scrier’s Gaze and Disrupt Destiny for example
i thought brain burst would be useful for when theres crushers and maybe beast of nurgle ? i was gonna spent most my time using the staff's secondary fire
You can just use the staff instead of brain burst for that, they are similar enough. Better yet is to melee.
Though that is not the best use for that staff and you should change the perks to flak and maniac or elite and focused channeling to Flurry, or Surge if you want to spam primary
I always played Elektro staff with Brain Burst, just to have kinetic flayer and then down the left side for Venting Shriek and Warp Charges. More staff spamming, more Venting Shriek for more spamming. Much fun
im apmming secondary
the one where i charge my left hand and send a wave of lightning
only one toughness replenishment node is bad, you should remove kinetic resonance subnode and get e.g. soulstealer
keep my peril at 100% quealling briefly between cast
Maybe take some inspiration from a build in the pins
like this?
what do i want these to look like?
i think this is from when it was still rng based system idk
1 health, 2 toughness. Health, toughness, gunner resistance as perks. Is very standard
Definitely not wounds
when im at 100% peril, do i need to fully charge this bar or is casting insantly fine?
i like wounds i pop my self a lot and i use the perk where popping doesnt count as down
Wounds don't help you survive longer, you need to learn to not explode
Waste of a talent point and curio slot
When you reach 100% and then do something that generates peril again you will explode. Does that help? If you channel the staff and it reaches 100 nothing will happen if you stop channeling, if you cast the attack you will go boom though
yes, better
if you are on PC I recommend this mod https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/730?tab=description
i been doing this
Scrier’s Gaze works too
Run voidstrike
Charge to 100%
Get staggered by basic walker
Attack goes off on its own
Explode

how long does my ult last for and is there any thing visual i can be looking at while using it so i know its about to end and i need to start quelling again
why are these guys forever on fire?
When one special or elite dies it sets surrounding enemies on fire, if they're already on fire they get more stacks and renew the timer
I know that theres a mod to make its duration more obvious
I forgot the talent that does it
But i just look at the icon on the buffbar
kinda tiny, idk what any of these mean
Coherency, aura, true aim, no clue, ee and cant read the last one
I think atleast, outside of dd and scriers i dont look at buffs at all
soo how does modding game work
cuz yeh id use a mod to increase the icon size or make the ult duration more noticeable
like its weird it doesnt just put whats happening in the buff icon ontop of this
There is a mod that shows you a timer, how modding here works I don't know though
That is pretty much optimal yeah. I would also recommend reducing peril FX intensity if you find the max peril sound effect to be too loud. It's in the Interface tab of the options menu.
Should mention it affects all abilities barring scum supply.
Like, try it with piety zealot.
You know unless you are using smite in which case they put about 15 sets of training wheels on it and it's nigh on impossible to explode yourself on accident
i spent 900 for a bone i thought it was a whole remodel of the weapon, but it just has a different base model for zealot than it does for phsyker
Thats one expensive chicken leg
zealot no skin
i guess i also get this you can never see in gameplay
At that point you have other things to worry about though. Such as "why am I using smite?"
is this good ?
Max hp you can get from a curio is +21%
Not really
So you shouldnt waste resources on it
Not maxed. Bad choices for subnodes.
do i buy these instead ?
Min you work on is a +20% even.
am level 30 on phsyker, zealot and hive scum
You are wasting melk bux before then.
i dont even know what content ot be running ive only played quick play
literally no clue what this game about or why im doing things
Love of the game pretty much
nuh uh, you spent 900 for a bone and 2 leather straps
Welcome to the FOMO shop. Is why ppl mock it so much.
i bought the $30 pack last time and there's been nothing else worth buying so i just have 6700 sitting in my pocket
this was in like february i think
Not interested in the Acolytes?
AcOwOwwytes
not particularly, my vet and ogryn are wearing cosmetics you unlocked from penances except for their heads, and i don't really play the other classes
i've been on a space marine binge last few days and all the good cosmetics are only from penance equivalents, it's glorious
Ah.
idk i had like 7500 from some promo event where you got 5000 credits for $5 and then i bought the imperial upgrade edition and sat on the credits forever i used them on what ever this bundle was , this bundle for zealot , sword skin and still have 820 left
basic bitch psyker cosmetics tbh
not wrong
If you wear this i think less of you unironically
Yeah, I can't stand people who buy what they like and brings them joy, ugh
Personally I only buy things to impress others and hope they think I'm cool
Could be both. But then again.
i just bought it cuz closest thing to a traditional mage robe and everything else looked barely different from penance gear
i just wish i could remove the coat cape thing
like if they just made that part a backpack instead of part of the chest piece
If you are (un)lucky they will sell it as a new armor at full price 
Nu.
I'm waiting for another coat as cape.
So I can have a coat on a coat on a coat on a coat.
Clipping is going to be crazy
The clandestium gloriana in question
Karien did you sleep yet
so this one is good?
Still 1% of from max, but sure. You won't notice the difference in playing, only when checking your inventory and thinking about what there could be instead
You want 21% for hp curios
i keep getting +2 stamina or 10% tough
Stamina curios are +3 and toughness is +17%
Had like 2 hours missing memories, so I assume yes.
In that case you should aim for 8 hours of missing memory
Is psyker, warp reasons.
Rule of cool does nawt care.
best toughness i got is
i dont have any more currenty to keep pulling
That one is health
Thats health
Tbh it makes such a small difference anyway, just check Brunt every time an hour passes and you are playing
If you have 16%s, even 15%s to begin with, you are fine
Just keep them until you see the 17s show up
i want 21 max health
what do i put on these
secret no emote
i just put +20% chance as curio as item drop from finishing a mission on all 3 of them
soo 60% total
Doesn't work that way.
Is like 12% chance.
Actually. Like 8-9%.
20% of 5% is 1%.

i just had a full squad wipe 30 seconds into a new mission on the 1st wave. i got downed and nobody attempted to revive me till my bar was like 70% gone, the 1 player who did had no help and got downed moment i got up soo i tried get them back up other 2 players ran 800m away and got downed same time as me
quickplay really is quick some times
That is just how pub is. I sometimes question playing with bots is better or worse.
Or no diff.
@empty granite what difficulty?
herasay
Yep. Gotta be able to solo there.
Most are Malice or Uprising tier players thinking they are too good for those.
But not good enough to even get into damnations.
There's a lot of "speedrunners" around atm
Also that. New event pushes team speedruns to whack totems.
i just play heresay cuz theres enough enemies that 1 player isnt soling everything
also i tried queuing for higher difficulty once and had nobody join for an hour and went back lower
Well, when everyone else dies...
Totens can still be 1 shot by haymaker
I say speedrunners, it's more like engagement-minimisers
They just want to get it over with.
Goes slower that way thouhh
Bet you if the event was like old, they would get their 500 and be done.
Plus they skip totems
They expect others to do it.
I genuinely think it's just people with shit personalities
I am judgemental as fuck about them
Like people who don't indicate on roundabouts
(utter utter bastards)
I mean, you have asshats that go to malice to speedrun and mock actual newbies.
Real issue is you going down 30 sec into a mission
50/50 meant as a joke but also as legit point
I had to block two idiots recently because they were acting like asshats to someone who was slower.
On malice.
Why are you playing malice?
Tbh, it astounds me that this has not been more of a normal thing in this game
Flexing on first timers smh
I am pessimistic and anxious as fuck about online gaming communities usually
Darktide's has been probably the best bunch of randoms I have ever played with in general
Maybe up there with early team fortress 2
You also grow into it
The asshats are just a very loud minority.
Best advice i can give is to know where you stand
Most ppl just play silently.
I mean when I see it, I think "wow... I used to think this would be every match, but it's actually rare enough to shock me"
And make a mental canon about where others stand to preserve your sanity
League of Legends really did a number on my mental health tbh
Naw. I literally don't care and was just brain off and doing event.
Yep. The few black sheep that wakes you up on it.
Real way to play jungle is to pin the other team's lanes against their jungler
But yeah, for me (and I imagine you and most of us) "brain off" means "enjoy slaughtering nurglites" not "skip all the nurglites"
And win because theyre just argueing all the time 
Boom, Boom, BOOM!
Everyone gets a 'nade.
Offlane solo support in MLBB. Because fuck do I know SEA cancer lanes.
A good Jungler shows up every so often to jump idiots that eat enough chip and chase me to tower things.
yey 3 of my team mates got downed infront of me in middle of a crowd of everything, i miss timed my thing and overloaded. exploding everything around me so i was able to revive 2 players and they revived the 3rd
Its only 2133 for you? Too early to sleep
Karien has been up for 99 hours straight
She's built different
10:35 pm.
Thought you're on the same as vietnam time
Exactly 12 hours ahead of me
Nope. Is just close enough is easy.
US East, heh.
Where?
Yeah. 36°C middle of night.
In nam my boy

Cosmetic surgery tour
This guy is always somewhere else
SEA night temps.
I want to stay home more tbh I dont like to travel
Yep
I mean, plane sucks.
But its so much cheaper if I want to do eyes surgery here compare to uk
Are you having a 3rd eye installed
Gomna get rid of my annoying glasses I put up with for the last 10 years
Yeah i could see behind me soon
Never getting dogged or trapped from behind again
Don't stare

@marble crater help
Maybe she also needs eye surgery to reduce the starring at people 
If you sponsor, sure.
I don't have that kind of money
I tell you using the backside buttons on the elite 2 controller has been such a game changer for playing on controller
Back paddles are very nice indeed
You are talking to two ppl who uses controllers with back buttons.
Technically wasn't talking to us directly
I suppose.
Can't wait for my controller to break eventually so I can justify buying a new one 
Well, good excuse to wait for the Cyclone 3 for me.
Though was thinking maybe just getting the G7pro 8k like months later.
@marble crater and I. Lul.
I use back buttons
It's no secret we use Gamesir controllers.
8k?
Yeah, mostly for the TMR 2.0. Sticks.
Buy steam controller
You buy and send me? Can't get it direct here. 
Literally not avaliable in region.
I havent touched darktide in a while, but reading patch notes rn
did they really buff inferno staff??
Looks like they aren't licensed for Xbox, sad
Yep, cos Xbox don't support 8k and stuff.
The normal pro will have to do then
Mhm. I'm just interested in the Cyclone cos usually bigger and cheaper.
@deft stump @marble crater how do you have your back buttons set up?
I have dodge on the right amd slide on the left
Left is combat ability and right is switching to blitz
I bet some dev who sucks at the game played psyker and felt like Uh this inferno is trash against heavies literally unplayable
Then they removed crushers from the game
they are still in havoc don't worry.
inferno is broken & i haven't seen a psyker not use it since the update.
Sprint/special.
Psykers are main characters now
Rest of the team are like robins running behind batman
Bros Im about to download darktide again and try out this massive inferno nerf
psyker without a ogryn is still...
Liability
the liability is no longer our concern
Special sounds like a good idea
playing havoc 40s again made me realise still that psykers hug near ogryns like nothing.
they follow you like rats lol
but they keep a bubble around me so I'm happy.
Is to avoid damaging the sticks tbh.
Oh boy, I didn't even consider that, now I'm definitely going to move it
Is why left sticks drift faster, you need to click and hold up to sprint usually.
Now my bumpers die faster lul.
Clicking to enable sprint annoys me so much
Thus, left stick on left back button.
How many back buttons do you have on your controller
I have an old T4Kaleid.
Upgrading will be much later. Too ex, so dealing with a half ded left bumper.
Because Darktide lul.
It still works, but gotta be pressed in a specific spot basically.
Karien out here playing with a half broken controller and 300+ ping and still kicking butt
Eh. Is just the dodge button. Everything else is fine.
everyone say thanks to karien for carrying us
I DO NAWT CARRY!
Now i feel extra bad for causing us to wipe
I added sprint and special to the back too, lets see if my brain can adjust
Karien carried me in h40, there is even video evidence of it
Its all sold out anyway
Don't know, page just shows "This item is not available for purchase in your region" for me.
Also, I don't like the Dpad positioning lul. Am just used to Xbox style.
Ps > xbox style
You as an Asian with small hands should prefer ps
Unless you have big hands idk
Me hands smol
I actually have long fingers.
Dainty digits?
Also, I like bigger mouses as well.
I use g502 thats the biggest i would go
I use it because it was buy 1 get 1 and I got the get 1.
Wired in 2026 D:
My favorite mouse was the G600 and Logi doesn't make it anymore
I wish my hands had more fingers
Better than dogshit on batteries thats gonna run out & cost you a game

That's why you get wireless charging 
Fair, but I've never had issues with my current setup

That's extra cost.
A small price to pay(for me)
Y'all say that but I've had way more issues with wired mouse than wireless, although I guess you could argue that's anecdotal
ive had the same wired mouse for like nearly 10 years
And I've had to replace 4x wired mouses, while none of my wireless have had problems
So what's your point
I literally had a wireless keyboard refuse to pair with it's dongle before.
i mean tech stuff is just rng tbh
sometimes its just buns no matter if its wireless or wired
and breaks a month after you get it
Gee it's almost like arguing about these types of personal experiences is pointless because it's all anecdotal anyway
Exactly
Its why I no longer think of wired as more reliable
This is every single new official Xbox controller.
They drift after a week to a month for me.
le poor ps5 controller getting stick drift after 1 month
or less
A controller half it's price lasted me 5 years now?
Is why I never complained about the Gamesir. It really did endure alot of things.
i have a whack ass gamepad that's still alive
the logitech f710
i got it a while back and its served me well
it outlasted like 4 ps5 controllers
Do you even clean them?
and how much aquilas can be considered lowcost how much do i have to pay
Added a 3rd back button and my brain said FU
They are new. I do clean them but it did nothing. Even opened up one to deep clean did nothing.
And I found out M$ really doesn't want ppl opening up their newer controllers.
Karking thing is hell to open.
Like, 360 controller is easy. One/X/S is hell.
And to be fair, that one showed signs of degraded potentiometer.
After 1 week.
IDK what TEMU grade thing they used.
@deft stump weapon special on a button instead of stick button is sooo nice
I have this visual issue with the "scholastia psykana" chestpiece, occurs modded and unmodded, at highest and lowest fov , seems to be rare for others
I know, if you remember to use it. LUL.
Almost can't recognize you with the new elf 
too colorful?
Just too unfamiliar 
Insane work.
Its kind of frustrating learning the new layout
True. Is why I usually set things up when first boot so I never need to relearn.
I'm a little procrastinator
Smite would be an excellent tool for use in a crystalline will build since you can line everything up and tick it into explosion range but since you can't ever blow up from smite it's useless
sounds like you need to stroke your sword one too many times to explode
Some would simply call that endurance
You can do it actually.
Smite to 100%, the autoquell kicks in, do right click again and it'll take you to 100% during the charge animation and then when you go to fire you'll perils
I have done it, more than I like to admit, mostly because of JaD.
is warp unbound good?
Depends. If you're using a staff or assail a lot, it's quite nice to have.
inferno staff
the 10 seconds countdown is quite hidden though
and I have to remember to lower peril or I die
Hmm.
Honestly I actually don't think it's all that useful particularly for that staff unless you're running an extremely low Warp res build
is the gaze good though
or is the bubble shield better
Venting Shriek
What does that mean
As in its not that strong?
based opinion
based
I mean, extremely based tbh
i too think the peril fart is boring and stinky
Venting shriek is really one note imho
boring
feels like worse voice of command
or whatever broken thing veteran gets
It serves a very different purpose
And is very broken in its own right
But it's also boring so
VoC is a bit better now since you aren't guaranteed 100% gold toughness uptime anymore
So you do actually have you use your head SOMETIMES before pressing F
instead of just doing it off cooldown every time
But it's not like, substantially more involved or anything for this change, it's just a bit more.
Bubble shield is good and easy to get value out of. Gaze is in that same vein of brokenness except you actually do kinda need to know what you're doing with it.
what staff is good with warp unbound?
EK staff
any staff
all
I mean all of them are pretty good.
Fire is the least good with it but they are all good with it.
every single thing in psyker's kit works good with high peril
literally how the class is built
But EK Gaze is... something else
its the one doing smite?
walmart smite
Yeah
idk man EK sucks kind of compared to other options
me when I lie
Another who does not know the Surge Surge staff
do you full send it or just spam?
I really like it i play it a lot but it's not as good as Inferno by thousand miles
On a gaze build?
you swing it at enemies and they hurt
oh
you use special and itll make a noise until you swing at a baddie
or it expires after .... five seconds?
yes precisely, i tried out a lot of stuff with it and played a lot of the primary spam with double shot
also I think with warp unbound I can tank anything with deflector blessing on sword and stamina to peril guard perk
nope it only works below critical peril
Not quite for the Deflector talent
Cuz honestly inferno gaze while it's strong
It's kinda awkward.
it's the same with Just a Dream, the talent turns off when you're at and above 97%, even if you can't explode.
Like having near 100% crit and turning EK into a machine gun just gets nuts with Warp unbound and EE
It is genuinely not okay lol
you know why I dislike Just a Dream with Gaze? its because JaD makes me hit max peril quicker, meaning I lose the big buffs from Gaze being active...
whats EE
Empathic Evasion, the "dodge all ranged for 1 sec when critting" talent node
I love it because I'm a based Mind in Motion user and I can just walk away while quelling and not even care about getting sprinkled by gunfire or the occasional melee hit bouncing off of me.
Also nullifies most of the nonsense that is pox gas.
(Quietude is of course needed)
Who the hell playing psyker is below 25% peril at any time like wtf
me
recently I've been using 0% peril build
its been fun
the entire match I dont gain any peril
Perils of the Warp when Safety of Realspace shows up:
Some of my builds, specially those that relies on improving the time that SG stays active to benefit from it for longer
anyone have a good psyker build for a new player
what's your character level
15
just keep vibing
assail is a solid pick
but builds are always going to assume you have all 30 talent points available to spend for synergies and stuff so its not worth worrying about any of that yet
best you can do is focus on taking less and less damage every game and find new weapons to try that you enjoy swinging
alright
whens next shop rotation?
But it doesn't line up with Skittles release
Jun 4 and jun 18 are supposed to be rotations
Skibidi drops jun 23
So maybe they'll postpone the 18
i disliked assail for long but man it's so good i take it 100% of the time now after hundreds of hours of gameplay on psyker really assail is king of clutch
I just enjoy the micro of being able to weave it inbetween melee/ranged attacks and having what is essentially infinite back-up ammo for special sniping
And yeah it helps it's pretty strong lol
I find Smite fills a similar niche but the micro of swapping to it for the left click is a bit jankier/more involved unfortunately
i really dislike smite, it slows the pace of the game
Yeah Smykers suck but Smite is pretty dope
you should not be pausing as a psyker you should just be non stop agressive (i feel like)
Love the blitz, hate how most people approach it.
It's somewhat on FatShark to figure out a solution to rein it in but at this point it's pretty clear that they're okay with it doing what it's doing (infinite Smykers)
This was old tree stuff but I made an attempt to argue against Smykers as best as I could, and at least a few people claim to have opened their eyes.
https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/1h1d0ps/everything_i_know_about_smite_the_damage_sucks_or/
All the numbers are still correct at least.
now this is some very very interesting tech i was unaware of i am going to extensively try this out
thanks
very welcome
This take is numerically correct and completely wrong. When they measure the time to kill a single unit and use that as a scale it misses the most important aspect of the Smyker, is that they can kill 100 enemies at the same time. So yeah, measuring the kill time by units, it will seem low, but it takes 18 seconds to kill a Havoc 40 Rager , but it also takes 18 seconds to kill 40 Ragers.
This is my dedicated Smyker build, usually I take the vanguard or rearguard and kill everything all at once, if not enough targets are present, due to Charged Strike, I can switch to melee and attack ( A sore weakness of the smyker build, that people disregard as most don't understand the build inherent weakness. ).
https://youtu.be/p4455DhoR6c
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a1615cb0-dfc3-4615-b8f6-9c6cc6911df3/devils-smiting-claw
As players are asking about Smite and Charged Strike I've seen a common misconception here, one is that Smite deals no damage no matter what, and the second is that Charged Strike is weak, both are wrongs and I hope this build can demonstrate this....
Incorrect, you slowly kill 100 enemies with baked in damage fall off as the tethers spread. You are not dropping all 100 targets in the same window, just in the same cast.
Or this showcase in the psykanium, a pretty impressive time, I might add.
https://youtu.be/KGmjfwm041U
Small demonstration in Auric difficulty of what Smite can do.
In game completion timer is completely wrong, as it counted the timer in the moment of the enemy spawn, not when I enabled the AI, so the true completion timer is about: One minute and forty four seconds, or 104 seconds.
Attacked one enemy before the test to gain one charge of Empower...
With EP this is still pretty quick but it is still more flashy than it is impressive.
Mostly though the post is to discredit the use of Smite as your only damage source and/or as a mechanism to feed Creeping Flames
Most of my games with Smyker, I'm the most damage dealer or second most. It's pretty competent, but I might add that I'm competent at slide dodging all the way to keep myself where I'm needed.
Smykers do that, yeah. He's definitionally correct.
😐
And afterwards too, I don't stop until the TV turns off
Thank you Ainz, very cool. 😭
In the words of the famous psyker DMX; they see me smitin', they hatin, patrollin, and tryna catch me smitin' dirty
Also how you play smite incorrectly
i see people writing "o7"
anyone know what it means ?
It's a salute
Salute
ahhh lol i see
The 7 is the arm
Hold, or press the button. But it's not that simple, otherwise everyone with an Inferno staff build would be a top player.
I mean fundamentally that's still
What you're doing.
Aren't we all doing that? I, when playing smyker have to decide when to cast it, when to stop casting, when to activate SG and so forth and so on. Thing is, some people think it's not fun, for me that view is completely valid. What I don't accept is to call it weak.
brain burst with the free burst talent i lowkey cant drop that. on top of smite being harmful/unfun half the time...
What the ****. I didn't know you could make it near indefinite
No because not every build that uses smite constantly holds it down
Not every person that uses it does that either.
That's why there's a specification for a psyker that uses smite, and a "Smyker"
Most of my current builds that I use smite is not a Smyker. I'm using it most for the charged strike. That's a beast.
No one thinks Smite is weak
What a lot do think is that it shouldn't exist in a state where you can reach an infinite cast
Which is what that reddit post was getting at actually
Well, I suppose I could live with shorter casting, if it did proportionally more damage.
Also the casting time was the second nerf after the Bound by Duty update, as they nerfed many things that allowed effectivelly infinite smite. Although if battle meditation triggers enough times, and that other talent that reduces cooldown as well, it can chain more than once.
more damage less time would be super cool in my wholly inexperienced and uninformed opinion
Honestly smite being a sustainable stun that you have to hold doesn't even sound like something that should be called "smite"
If it was like a sudden cast that causes a hard stun in an AoE that does good damage? Now that sounds like something that can be called Smite.
Right now the cast off is worth 500ms of cast time in damage, you could just up that number significantly so as to incentivize letting the button go
Imagine if letting Smite go did the equivalent of five seconds of smiting in damage
You would always be better served doing small bursts under five seconds
My main problem with this solution is that what sets Smite appart is the huge amount of targets it can have, so your solution although elegant, would make it explode in damage.
And I can't think of a solution that would please everyone and make Smite do similar damage, as the way it currently is, it CAN deal a lot of damage, specially on how dense the hordes are.
That's what we want though.
And lo, did the LORD smite His enemies (He gently pressured them over a long period of time, causing little direct damage but making it hard for them to do things)
We want it to do its damage quicker so people aren't just holding the thing down for twenty seconds.
This is a SG problem, not a smite problem. Warp Unbound
But we also want it to be able to be held down for lengthy periods if/when a player would like for those occassions where you really do need to stop twenty crushers and maulers and ragers to do a revive/obj.
So the trick is to just make short bursts more valuable by ... moving the values.
That way players don't mentally trap themselves into thinking holding smite for twenty seconds is what's doing damage
(Becasue it won't be anymore)
I also want left-click Smite to no longer consume EP charges
But that's just for me, just a little treat for daddy.
Free stunlock on command is boring
Maybe a multifunctional deal where M1 is a sudden stun with good damage with a good chunk of peril generated and M2 is the sustainable one but the sustainable one is also tweaked so it's not as sustainable but does more dps, at increased peril generation.
Free instant cast single target stunlock though is based
That could be fun
Smite having an instantaneous effect would also work a lot better with EP (assuming EP doesn't change much), the current EP incentivizes holding down Smite as long as possible (or at least until you get your charge back)
yea same thing really
Like it's just weird
since EP just goes "triple this" to all damage smite does, cast-off included
That m1 is just a weaker but slightly quicker to cast hold to stun
They could have made the ability more interesting actually giving m1 a different purpose
But alas
Peril is too ez. You need some trade off to not make stunlock boring game design

it's just to instantly stun one target
Which it doesn't even do depending on the enemy cuz of hit mass sometimes so you still have to hold it at times
Scab Ragers and Maulers are the breakpoint yeah
everything else tho, they stop
and even the Ragers/Maulers stop when you let it go
You gotta fight your brain on that one though
cause if youre pannicked your brain is gonna tell you to keep holding it down until they stun but actually you have to stop smiting so that the castoff staggers them
See this is kinda what confuses me about it then. Because yeah it has the means to instant stagger on let go.
And yet you can still hold M1 even if M1 is only gonna be for one target to get off your ass
So why does it even have the ability to be held in that case?
It's just that at 10 hitmass those two fuckers break the rules a bit.
They'll still stun if you hold it down but it takes slightly longer.
If you're looking to stop an attack from them then you have to watch the tether latch and then let it go, and then the two stagger effects together are enough to stop them.
Everything else you stun them the instant the tether reaches.
(Except for Ogryns and other obvious shit, also Nurgle Blessing)
If anything M1 having a hold to stun could just be misleading people into thinking that's the optimal way to do it.
For me it's the fact that it draws and fires instantly clued me in that it's really just for point-and-click control.
Flamer about to flame you? G+M1 then swap back.
I guarantee you that not every player is gonna see it that way.
Definitely not seeing as I blow a lot of people's minds with my post lol
And that's honestly my big issue with Smite and how it teaches bad habits
Doesn't help that the vast majority of guides do the same.
It leads you to a thought process that actually isn't helping you as a player
"Win Games With This INSANE One Click Build!!! 🤓 ☝️ "
What if:
Smite LMB: Near instantaneous to cast, zap target you're aiming at for minor damage (not improved much by EP), heavy stun, electrocute debuff. Reasonable cooldown prevents spamming despite fast initial cast time.
Smite RMB: Hold to charge and LMB to cast, like a Staff. Zap target you're aiming at for moderate damage and heavy stun, lightning chains to more targets (subject to hitmass), deals more damage, and causes longer stun based on charge time. Electrocutes all affected targets. Longer charge also = longer cooldown. EP can improve any combination of damage, stun duration, cleave, cooldown, cast time.
Yeah, but we have Electrokinetic
If we want to go really crazy with it, make this version of Smite apply Soulblaze stacks based on charge time too
Yes but even when you don't.
i hate party findr
party decliner
scrier smite is still good? no one talks about recently for some reason
probably because stunlocking an entire screen to death is kinda boring
ah
what would yall say would be a fun build then
lmao
any other scriers build would probably be more enjoyable
meleeker is stupid powerful and silly to do
Elektro, Assail, Dueling Sword, Gaze
Obscurus, assail, 2x shield wall, void strike, DD
i have no idea what any of that means lol but ill look em up
are those even things
I dont recognize those

There’s a force sword called Obscurus Mk II
Assail is the 3rd (right side) blitz (green square) on tree
Shield wall is the middle ability, u can get a subnode that gives it 2 charges
Voidstrike is the big Blueball staff
DD is the right side keystone
which of these is a simple caster build idm using my brain a bit tbh been playing hivescum all day lol
Am I missing smth here or did u not understand that this is everything that goes into the build
They are all part of the same build, for more builds check out the pinned message here in the channel
Too good even
And if you ask me what's a fun build
Double Shield
Brain Burst

Hands gameplay
probably because it's the most boring build in the game, but it's always effective
at putting people to sleep
I leave games with smykers
Bubble knight or surge surge
Flat bubble knight
Knight of the Wall
hi
Surely you recognise assail, voidstrike and 2x shield wall haha
A staff, a blitz and a combat ability = unfathomable
I only recognize cds
Like... avril lavigne's Under My Skin?
You cant get under my skin bro, avril's got that locked down 
Heh, Gun-psyker with the Heavy Lasp feels nice
Yes it does
A quick reload after playing the bolt pistol
Found someone probably running the same kit as me
No way?! Thats unreal
Its probably just popular :p
Yeahhhh i was being sardonic haha
How dare you
You rn
Any recent builds for this class that are pretty good?
Nah, psyker only good to feed corpse emperor
Lol
BFG + blazing spirit
do items have cooties or something? whys everyone so afraid to pick up crates and ammo lately
like i dont mind when im using a gun cause hey all the ammo for me (even with 2-3 other ammo users)
but my braincell is frying

Well yeah you put psyker cooties on it
shhh dont tell them that
my moms gonna kill me bro
Is infinite caster build good for endgame?
Warp unbound type shi
With staff and BFG + deflector and stamina to peril guard for tanky.
yeah you can play anything in endgame
No you must play inferno and bubble
how do I reach high crit rate?
are there staff perks that boost crit?
I need it for empathic evasion
Warp nexus can give up to 20% based on your peril, the 20% is at 80+
Crit chance perk, 5%
Warp nexus is pretty staple on all staves, basically reach 80 peril and get into the cast-cast-quell rythm
I also run warp unbound
So i took a couple years break (i think) and now coming back it feels like my level 21 psyker does zero damage lol doesn't help that i cannot equip my better gear for some reason?
What sort of builds do well right now? I was trying to make smite work i think its called with the electricity and i was using the electric staff with the force sword, i honestly felt more effective just using my sword because when using my lightning it took forever to kill anything and i was mostly just holding things in place until my team killed them for me
Smite isn’t used for damage, it’s used for massive amounts of CC, basically an “oh shit!” button.
They’ve gutted the electro staff’s CC ability and turned it into more of a single target damage dealer. There are ways to make smite actually dish out some decent damage but you need the Empowered Psyonics keystone. You could even take Scrier’s Gaze with this and become the ultimate sith lord
smite is used to make your teammates hate you
Rn the meta seems to focused around inferno staff + bubble and crit Soulblaze build. But basically any crit build with Psyker will net you some serious damage
I see a lot of people say this but I personally don’t get how locking down a bunch of elites makes your team upset. Care to explain?
it's partly tied to the smyker stereotype of fully relying on smite and then getting obliterated when the most minor inconvenience happens upon them
it's not only that, because a lot of classes have talents that rely on dodging that you then prevent from everyone else
you nuke zealot's survivability if he can't dodge
it also makes the game fucking boring
if psyker wants to "support" then at least shield is static
I think the same about the inferno staff
but best support is always killing
it turns the game off, effectively
we want to dodge and interact with them
totally fair, the difference is that inferno is stupidly good
instead of just stupid
Yeah, the dodge grievances actually make a lot of sense now that I think about it
i love this gif
Okay that DOES look hella annoying
I shall be changing my ways for the good of the team lol

it also keeps stuff spread out instead of them grouping up for good clearing
and who knows when the smyker stops and you're suddenly surrounded by a bunch of stuff
Personally I’m a voidstrike scriers enjoyer
ye it's the only way I'd play with ball
we do need more staves but gunker is pretty fun
a gun is just a staff that shoots bullets or lasers
Ye but we already have every other class for guns
I want more space magic
Ah that's a real shame ill have to play around with it now is the scriers gaze the one that makes your peril rise until you cap and gives your buffs for it? And is empowered psyionics the one that is like a 10% chance on kill to empower your skill?
Because those two are what i was using and the damage was absolutely pathetic still lol
Like 150% of my peril to just about kill a small horde of trash enemies on diff 2
EP gives you empowered Blitz with a chance to refill a charge
pizza with NOTHING
Yeah that's what i was using then
Maybe i set my stuff up wrong but yeah smite damage with as much investment as i could was pathetic lol
I was a cc bot that did more damage with my sword
Inb4 true survivor h40 all bot run
granted but an immortal burgle follows you the entire game and if it touches you, you die
Thats just a chaos wastes modifier
does it vomit
no. it reads your diary out loud instead
anyway that just sounds like a normal lore-accurate burgle

Hamburgle
The time to use smite is when you see people getting overwhelmed and that's about it.
You know they're getting overwhelmed because most haven't unbound jump from the dodge button and they turn into kangaroos 🦘
Once they start clearing and you're reasonably sure they can handle the rest, pull your weapons back out. 🙂
Exactly
Just gotta watch out for the decoy burgle
Psyker is squishy but fun
@radiant frigate I have bonded with the funny elf over shitty teammates today :^)
so true bestie
Does cleave do anything for inferno staff?
No
The cons of not interacting with cleave
Wait
It does
Buff the cleave on your melee bash
💀
Nerf the cleave on your melee
Can staff bonk even multihit
Like will that cleave bonus allow it to hit more enemies
Yea
22 cleave
Second highest non infinite cleave in the game
I urge you to try this specific combination then, it will be eye opening: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a16d8e16-c437-480a-a82b-081dcce4cb53/hellblaze-slinger
You’re amazing, I’ve been looking for a good soulblaze ball build!
That makes literally no sense and feels like a massive injoke.
And you guys stop sullying Smite's good name while I'm sleeping, just like the Emperor I do watch!
Is the good name here with us right now?

Smykers can continue eating my ass.
Don't care. Every smyker I see in pubs is dogdook.
Smite and blazing spirit are the greatest things in the game
#thatswhyfatsharkshouldbuffitmore
Unfair, everyone is dogdook when compared to you
What's the dump stat on the Electromagnetic Force Staff?
Warp res of course
is that the dump stat on all stalves?
Not voidSTRIKE, there it's radius, but for anything else that has warp res, it's warp res
Well, you see
If you're just blue balling people you don't really need charge
And for pretty much all melee it's either mobility or a defensive right?
dump warp res on force swords and mobility/defense otherwise
sometimes cleave targets
dump damage so you can fight longer and enjoy more darktide
Nope, am not that good. But most smykers are below average.
Its still warp res
When going for blazing spirit you want that blast radius as big as possible
Yes Voidtrike
Eh, can do both. It really changes nothing. Staff still needs a massive buff.
I'm not having this conversation 
Sadly.
Pick the build I posted, test it out and see by yourselves, tell me if it needs a buff after that.
another scriers gaze buff coming right up
psyker getting neglected is accurate to the lore 
Waiting for the day we need a url link to Fatshark forum post for the description because even 8k screens cannot show the full tooltip.
should i use the obscurus or the deimos for a flamestaff build 
Obscurus for big damage
Deimos for safety
i'll give the obscurus a try
Covenant is right there 😭
It's also like
Name of the planet of origin
Deimos is Mars moon though
Based and ever so humble, I kneel
did the event get harder?

No clue if it got harder tho
I did all my runs on sunday and would instabreak totems with scum's rpg
No clue if it got any harder but I played most of mine last Saturday and gambled on insta killing the totems
The hardest mission I had was Excise Vault because the totems were all near the end of the map
Embarassing failure on no mans land, fell off the bridge twice
now it progressed and it is harderf
Holy shit Pick N Mix sucked but finially got it
Just took a horde of 50 shotgunners to get lucky enough for the vets not to kill em all
oh damn
apparently dd is broken again
if you got killed and revived it no longer mark shit
Guess you're unlucky, been playing with it a lot lately and never got this bug. Knew it was common but I never used it a lot before to know.
this is the first time this happened to me
Used to be harder too 
Same with cliffhanger, and malleus
New to the game, smite a good blitz?
They're all good
So what's the 'meta'/safest or easiest pysker build for someone who doesn't play psyker?
is anyone else getting repeated crashes as soon as they try to launch the game?
and I did disable my mods
True still gotta do cliffhanger, I remember trying to do it when the game first came out and boy I gave up
Still doesn't beat taking no melee damage with vet because holy hell that was a nightmare
Inferno staff
Eh it wasn't that bad for me, just do a low int malice
= win game
Think I got on overwatch second try
Eh I did it back in day one with the old pens as I did both in the same game.
Is 80% Warp Resistance ideal on the Voidblast staff? been using one at 60% and I feel like I'm building peril too fast.
Warp Resistance doesn't scale much from 60-80 and Voidblast doesn't want to dump anything else
no
Is there like a go too inferno staff build posted somewhere I could use as reference? :>
pins
There's a google doc in the pinned messages, dunno how up to date it is.
It's mostly up to date, the only major change recently is that you can't use Uncanny Strike on melee to boost your damage against everything you've set on fire anymore
can i take in fire reborn without flame staff? just with perilous combustion and wildfire? or will psychic vampire be better in that case?
@night hound there are tons of great builds pinned
Unless they changed it, Fire Reborn also works with other psyker's soulblaze, so I always take that with warp charges
I am daring. I've only looked at this chat like once in the last month; you should be honored to be so blessed as to receive my reply.
Psychic Vampire kinda sucks tbh.
PC + Wildfire will struggle with uptime, depending on difficulty and how effective you are at killing elites, but IFR is still potentially better than Psychic Vampire.
IFR is not limited by coherency. And if you're using fire shriek, that'll make a huge difference, too.
I generally only take Psychic Vampire in the rare instance I am using a) a Telekine Shield build that is b) not melee and c) not using a staff that produces fire.
B/c fire shriek means, well, fire. Melee means you should be using DD, not WS.
I'll fix that. Or make a note of it. Uncanny does still boost damage, I believe (but I am not sure, as I haven't played in a bit), but as with before, it's only meaningful against Crushers.
It does still boost damage, but it now applies Brittleness instead of giving you Rending, so you don't boost all your soulblazes, just against things you actually (weakspot) hit in melee
Yeah it's not nearly as absurdly free as it was before.
Really it's better that somebody else runs Uncanny for you and hits the Crushers instead of you swapping.
probably
This is a good change tbh. I'm glad it happened. But it still only really impacts crushers, since soulblaze is >=100% ADMs elsewhere.
but it would apply only individually to each crusher you hit

