#psyker-class

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buoyant maple
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Kinda
But u can always just Blueball urself harder

thorn cedar
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It's a sad weapon. At least back in the day it sounded super fucken cool

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Very loud and explodey

olive oar
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Everything that survives burns and has a huge synergystic relationship with Perilous Combustion.

buoyant maple
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I think VS is alr with true aim + DD and u can run shriek with it to get a bit of both worlds

jovial juniper
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But blazing spirit sucks

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So you're just

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Sucks ²

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😭

buoyant maple
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But blazing spirit on VS is usually not great

radiant frigate
thorn cedar
olive oar
thorn cedar
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Also the aforementioned head hitbox issues

thorn cedar
rancid geyser
radiant frigate
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without the trauma

buoyant maple
rancid geyser
olive oar
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Nice of you guys is that you can run the game into your heads. Could someone try this over and then say an opinion.
I understand it can be hard to take such a wild claim like this, but I truly believe that this is something noteworthy in the top of my 1700hours of Darktide

buoyant maple
olive oar
rancid geyser
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you typing like that seems like you are discounting their experience for your own. Hours generally doesnt mean anything anyway

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which is wild

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2nd

jovial juniper
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Dude I got 2k hours

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Therefore higher than yours

rancid geyser
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Most of what was said is mostly opinion, including anything you have if not using a factual source

jovial juniper
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Does that mean anything?
Hell no

rancid geyser
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put a lid on that

buoyant maple
frail oar
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Oh god he returned💀

olive oar
radiant frigate
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i wanna say that blazing spirit surge voidstrike works with specifically true aim

buoyant maple
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I also think u don’t get as much value out of warp charges with SG, usually

crisp ether
radiant frigate
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but then i'd see it more as a sidearm to your melee

crisp ether
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That was the whole context of this conversation yesterday.

radiant frigate
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stack up from melee, and just play with 100% crit chance

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disregard other crit

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idk

rancid geyser
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i like that talent on all of them

olive oar
olive oar
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Why would I want to go into melee if the staff is so overcentralizing.

radiant frigate
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because it kind of isn't
trauma is

olive oar
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Yeah, this makes the most of the staff, but is very restrictive, know why? Because this staff is bad.

radiant frigate
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plus you run fgs, which, if anything, is the most flagship weapon there is

olive oar
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one crit from the staff does 5100 damage and applies 6 soublaze stacks in a wild area... like I'll just use the sword if I really need to.

thorn cedar
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You can do funny trauma-lite stuff with Voidstrike by firing off at the floor near your feet

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Not sure how strong that is nowadays tho

loud girder
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me when i skip half of the game

rancid geyser
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legit just hobbled

rancid geyser
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it's not fun 🙁

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but the damage

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FGS just doing the damage makes me torn

crisp ether
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Oh yeah you pretty much need WS lol

loud girder
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movement is overrated

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become the wall

crisp ether
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Or rather you don't but you do feel like a bag of bricks

buoyant maple
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I like how the community is finally starting to realize that FGS dodges are real bad

rancid geyser
thorn cedar
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youll never take away my deimos

hallow vector
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what is fgs

radiant frigate
thorn cedar
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force great swords

radiant frigate
rancid geyser
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and its rough when im the last one left

buoyant maple
jovial juniper
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FGS dodges..... Are bad?

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Isn't it like second worst in the game

rancid geyser
loud girder
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being a spear? smile

jovial juniper
rancid geyser
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i forget about dodge distances

jovial juniper
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Ok so I searched it up again and it was like

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1.86m

left walrus
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so wildfire still doesnt give out more than 1 stack of soulblaze right?

thorn cedar
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per target

left walrus
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cause it says it gives 4 stacks

thorn cedar
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yea

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hold on

rancid geyser
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it's not as bad as it sounds though

thorn cedar
jovial juniper
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While vet Psword loses about 12%

rancid geyser
thorn cedar
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vet starts at 2.5m so

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yes fgs is worse

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and vet has wepspec

urban meteor
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All I know is fgs feels like carrying big rock compared to just about anything else

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You even get that renewal feel when you switch to anything else

deft stump
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Is why I never could get used to it. Is like using shields.

urban meteor
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dodges that feel good

rancid geyser
olive oar
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About Wildfire, the thing about it is the synnergy it gives with other tools of the psyker kit. It IS WEAK, and I guess won't see any buffs unless inferno staff is nerfed but then it has some utilities.
With Inferno or Shout it can make enemies start from a non zero stack point when applying soulblaze, since each extra stack nearly doubles the amount of damage dealt it will make a sizeable difference on kill speed, not damage because dot damage max out on the health of the target.

With blazing spirit and perilous it makes it more likely that secondary targets to have an initial 1 or 2 stacks of soulblaze, which amounts to 5 or 6 in the fisrt apply that deals far greater damage than 3 or 4 stacks. Again, in perilous you won't see much difference because of cofounding factors like team mate kill and your other attacks, but for blazing spirit having it or not is like a night and day difference.

urban meteor
jovial juniper
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Relatable

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💀

deft stump
jovial juniper
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Same 2m as psyker

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Yup

crisp ether
jovial juniper
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And iirc

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Crusher Arbites is the worst dodge in the game

crisp ether
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It's just intriguing to see the college grade essays.

jovial juniper
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At 1.7something

thorn cedar
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Yeah it's awful

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And unlike shieldmaul you don't have a ..... well a shield

buoyant maple
thorn cedar
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Street Smarts is a decent help though

buoyant maple
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Power sword is 2.15~2.2m dodge
Force greatsword is 1.86m dodge

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2.15 if u go slaughterer (mobility dump), 2.2 if u go BM/sunder (cleave targets dump)

thorn cedar
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and with wepspec

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you wont be too far off from just default dodges

olive oar
crisp ether
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Hmm.

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I don't know about that one.

thorn cedar
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the damage radius of trauma

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not the stagger

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in the same way trauma stagger radius is fucken waaaaay bigger than the actual damage section

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voidstrike stagger radius is a good bit larger than the ball

crisp ether
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I guess I suppose. But then you're having to basically angle it downwards to actually take advantage of that regularly. Which, is fine but then... why not just, use trauma?

rancid geyser
olive oar
thorn cedar
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yea it applies all the way through

deft stump
olive oar
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Taking a single kill for them to have 9. Easy.

thorn cedar
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not sure about that actually

fathom adder
thorn cedar
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since ball two would have to land right

deft stump
thorn cedar
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oh i guess you dont even have to full charge

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nevermind

thorn cedar
olive oar
rich spindle
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i just dominated auric with my blazing spirit fgs

crisp ether
rich spindle
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You arent ready for it

olive oar
spice aurora
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why are all these h40 players play like they were carried to h40

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HMmMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

crisp ether
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I guess technically I do too now

rich spindle
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if the new class gets blazing spirit its over

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100% of playerbase will have true survivor

thorn cedar
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adeptus will have some new dot called virus or some shit

jovial juniper
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It's getting Charged Strikes actually

rich spindle
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i thought that same thing lol

jovial juniper
thorn cedar
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1.5x adm against carapace but heals poxwalkers

deft stump
thorn cedar
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what the fuck

rancid geyser
thorn cedar
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are you all in my imagination

olive oar
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It's not a bad blessing, it just competes with the best, and that overshadows its qualities.

deft stump
crisp ether
deft stump
crisp ether
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Even though i too am a backpack baby

rancid geyser
crisp ether
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I can't play this game

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Im washed

deft stump
rich spindle
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if my team is doing good its because im supporting and being a team player in some nondescript way

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if my team is doing bad its their fault

thorn cedar
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no matter what happens i an aura farming somewhere in the background

deft stump
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I mean ppl blame losses on me when they claim 3 man cos I have 300 ping. IDK why my class would matter then if so.

rancid geyser
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they can go down 4 times in a run and need saving 3 times and still put the blame on someone else

crisp ether
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The vet who blamed our loss on me running heavy sword last night

deft stump
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Neither is my zealot build any saner than my scum.

urban meteor
crisp ether
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When he got eviscerated the literal second anything happened

urban meteor
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I could be immune to criticism because I had the funny green circles

rancid geyser
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only breeds even more toxic behavior

deft stump
fathom adder
rich spindle
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gaming is for being toxic and screaming into your xbox 360 headset

deft stump
rancid geyser
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especially the bots that corner off themselves so that they can farm it

rancid geyser
crisp ether
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Playing MW2 with the daily serving of gamer words

rich spindle
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I had a console arb start raging on mic like the mw2 days

rancid geyser
rich spindle
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with the fire alarm beeping occasionally in background

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really took me back

crisp ether
rancid geyser
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also I get that ppl like to bring up MW2 lobbies, but those lobbies legit got nothing on old Dota 2 lobbies

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ive been in both and Dota 2 lobbies have shattered my ego

spice aurora
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i was able to do my havoc 40 with the fgs soulblaze build postd here

rancid geyser
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like actually

rich spindle
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mw2 is normie shit talking energy dota 2 is incel rage

fathom adder
rich spindle
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goated

olive oar
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There were 2 builds posted, one centered around the sword and another centered around the staff.

rich spindle
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we combined them

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to create the ultra giga best build ever

crisp ether
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Tbf I've been playing Marathon recently and

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It do really feel like the old days there

rich spindle
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the artstyle on that is so sweet

crisp ether
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Only to realize it's one of the most abusive games I've ever played

rancid geyser
crisp ether
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I say it once. I say it again. Bungie is that game's real problem.

rancid geyser
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we use to think it was sony

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well idk why i say we im off that

crisp ether
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It's both tbh

rancid geyser
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but now it really looks like sony was keeping them from imploding all along, as much as we dont like sony

potent echo
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I never understood blaming publishers

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It's always the dev themselves that are greedy

rancid geyser
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which 100% of the time will be used

potent echo
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But the devs are the one that chose the sign the whatever deal

rancid geyser
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both are at fault like what was said

rancid geyser
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lmao

potent echo
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Like don't go public if it's gonna negatively affect your product

rancid geyser
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its not fair to say its always the devs because a good thing dies without money

potent echo
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Maybe it should be dead then idk KEKW_ogryn

urban meteor
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Really wanna use a staff but they're so ugly, 0 aura compared to a pew pew

rancid geyser
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and the world is not kind enough for people to just sling the ideal around about not signing off a deal to make a project work

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most people do not care to fund those kind of things

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companies do because of capital venturing

crisp ether
potent echo
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I genuinely don't know how DT is still alive

crisp ether
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I love corporatism!!!

urban meteor
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Sienna Flamethrower was real aura moments

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This one? not it

crisp ether
urban meteor
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But they did nail magic swords way too hard, I can forgive it

potent echo
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I mean the business side

rich spindle
rancid geyser
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which is just better imo

potent echo
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Gameplay is super good peak optimal

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Aura

rancid geyser
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but psyker abilities are kinda of simple especially when looking at how staves work in 40k

rich spindle
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gameplay is so good people keep playing through the bugs and server crashes

urban meteor
crisp ether
fathom adder
rancid geyser
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and again, the staves are all stored power

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not even psyker abilities

rancid geyser
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the talents and blessings

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i can name them, but i think they are missing like 15

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so about half

urban meteor
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That bugs me a little, but oh well, no one's stopping me from just playing the other game

rancid geyser
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so my count was off

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12/33

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PC being Spontaneous Combustion might be a reach

potent echo
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Last I heard from fatshark they said they have 100 employees

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I don't think that's exactly slim loregryn

rancid geyser
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but stuff like that could come much later for like a Talent Tree 3.0 if we ever get that far

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really wish things were more indepth with the class system for this game

rancid geyser
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would be tragic if that were the case

cosmic cobalt
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yes

rancid geyser
deft stump
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And there's no regional pricing.

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Like, compare prices of Powerwash sim 1/2.

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Any region that isn't US.

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Once they self publish, it was cheaper because there isn't an extra tax on top.

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And the tax was just SquareEnix grubbing more money from us.

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Since the price stayed the same for US.

olive oar
rancid geyser
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i think charged strike is legit just smite

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iirc

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Both it and enfeeble in game are upgrades but Enfeeble is an actual ability

barren arrow
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But fatshark has more like 180 afaik.

potent echo
potent echo
deft stump
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It's just Japanese companies.

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Koei Tecmo and Bandai Namco is the same.

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Bandai Namco even gone to the point they region locked their Humble Bundles from us so we have to pay the bs prices.

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Because at times, even paying USD, the bundles are cheaper than the best sale prices for all the listed games.

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The only one with reasonable prices is like Sega and Capcom, mostly cos they basically charge us the same as US.

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It's still bad, but not as bad as asking a tax on top.

potent echo
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I hate scamco

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I also know far far west charges us less than US and UK too

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Poor research on their part KEKW_ogryn

inner eagle
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Finally been using the great sword, and it feels better than the other sword.

hallow vector
fading patrol
hallow vector
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blaze sword is good for single target

inner eagle
deft stump
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Even factoring DLC IP tax.

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I mean, is same price for US, but for poorer regions, the regional pricing is actually there and reasonable.

fading patrol
deft stump
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$22 for 2 vs $34 for 1.

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$12 more.

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How much % more is that?

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Also, When US pays 9% less.

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2 has US pay 45% more, but they didn't change the base price at all.

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Because that's what regional prices should be doing. US/EU tier 1 prices should be main, everything else should be regional compared to them.

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And mind you, talking about the avg person, not the rich millionaires.

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We have rich, sure, but the top 4% basically makes more than the rest of the country together.

deft stump
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Some Atelier games but IDK much details.

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Oh and Fatal Frame remake or so.

potent echo
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Nioh3 feels like a gigantic miss for me

fading patrol
deft stump
fading patrol
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Nioh feels like bad soulsborne clone, fatal frame and atelier weeb shit chadgryn

deft stump
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More so when there's Kunoichi with her inf air knock up and juggles.

fading patrol
deft stump
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When you bullied the final boss so hard, he couldn't even land a single hit on you even with time stop.

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Well, final for base game. Ultimate too ex and someone bought me only the base.

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Because is Koei Tecmo game, they still don't know Singapore avg person earns less than US avg person.

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When min wage is I think like $8-9 for able bodied person because it's what mickey dees pay currently per hour based on current ads.

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Might be lower, might be higher, wouldn't know.

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But I know they do pay less if you are disabled in any way.

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But I know from certain sites where you review employers... it gets to be as low as $6.25 an hour.

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So basically no increase in pay since early 2000s.

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And I will add, we do NOT have tipping here.

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That's like USD$4.90 an hour.

deft stump
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And the respawn spot is usually so arse to get to.

deft stump
fading patrol
deft stump
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That was as painful as you think on controller.

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Dpad down is blitz.

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And then Fatshark in their eternal (lack) of wisdom decided 100k salvage is reasonable.

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When an avg not cheated lobby is like 300-400 salvage.

fading patrol
deft stump
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Could be higher if I wasn't the only only scurrying off to solo loot.

fading patrol
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Theres achieveable and theres no life grind

deft stump
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Sometimes, it's just mood. Playing with lag requires a mindset.

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Like, I either have to be perfectionist or perfectionist.

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Because bots will never unnet or pick you up anymore.

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So 0 mistakes or loss.

hallow vector
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i love bot

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i think the issue is that they prioritize fighting enemies and picking up other bots over saving a player

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like saving a player is at the bottom of their todo list

deft stump
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I watched them ignore me tanking a boss and watched them ignore a player on the floor.

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They just stood there.

hallow vector
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sometimes they do still try and save someone once or twice

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but rarely

deft stump
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Till my stealth CD happened so I can go pick up the player with like 1 tiny silver of bleedout left.

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And thank god it wasn't a pack master. That player would have died otherwise.

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And when playing with lag, you need to go perfectionist or you simply die. Because the moment you get hit, it could be like taking a million hits in a single tick or nothing.

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A lone shooter can outright break your toughness before you even see them shooting for me.

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And GL sliding with lag, the timing is all off so you gamble.

fading patrol
deft stump
deft stump
fading patrol
deft stump
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If you mean Slay the Spire 2.

deft stump
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If someone bought me it, sure.

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But otherwise, naw.

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I rather buy Hades 2 if it goes on sale.

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A Good low sale cos the current sales are still above budget.

jovial juniper
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Lol

fading patrol
tidal siren
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What are you guys running for blessings on dueling sword after the changes on uncanny strike? I was thinking of trying out Agile, seems like a safe option

jovial juniper
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Precognition Riposte

tidal siren
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I see, carapace / unyielding for perks?

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Or some extra crit?

deft stump
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Since the Demo is the char maker. XD

merry meteor
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Inferno Staff has SB cap of 15, right? But total SB cap for a mob is 31 it seems. Why? Is it because several psykers can apply their own SB on the same mob?

deft stump
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You vent to go over.

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Shriek?

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Yeah.

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Then PC/WF happens.

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Is a snowball effect.

merry meteor
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What if two psykers with Inferno Staves target the same mob? What will happen? Will the total SB stacks for it go over 16 because there are two sepearate sources of those stacks?

royal falcon
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-# how rapidly does the inferno staff apply soulblaze stacks

deft stump
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First one to hit gets ownership.

deft stump
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Every tick is a stack, maybe 2 if crit.

merry meteor
deft stump
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Increases the stack.

neon laurel
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Good question! If there are two psykers with inferno staffs, do their stacks stack?

deft stump
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But the buffs that affect it is only the owner.

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So whoever landed the first stack.

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Also, if scoreboard matters...

neon laurel
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Ope, sorry, I scrolled up to see you already answered that question

deft stump
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Only the first player gets damage score.

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The second basically gets cucked.

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Is usually a bad idea to double stack infernos anyway.

neon laurel
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I'd love to switch to vent, but gosh, I feel so safe with my bubble. It has saved my team so many times.

sturdy basalt
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I like to bully muties with the wall shield

jovial juniper
deft stump
neon laurel
deft stump
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I have to solo loot so avg 350 at 40 mins.

neon laurel
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True, yeah.
Anyway, it looks like I have 600 hours total in this game, so 166 hours (or even 200) is asking too much for one dumb achievement.

deft stump
neon laurel
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With my inferno staff, I can't spend my salvage on ammo or grenades, so I have to hope there are enough other things to blow my salvage on

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Guess I could do that achievement on my zealot or hivescum..

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I, too, am an OCD completionist. I got 100% for Steam achievements on this game, but still working on in-game achievements.

deft stump
royal falcon
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stealth psyker when

wraith sphinx
kind jay
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the skulls announcement will just introduce Inferno Staff 2

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this one will have friendly fire

neon laurel
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LOL I saw that 10 second teaser. What is going on in those 10 seconds? I don't get it.

jovial juniper
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At the very start

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A servo skull flies really fast

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Then we have blue light and zap noises

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And we already know about the arc rifle in the files

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So

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It's a lightning gun

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It also has a different code for the lightning

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So in theory any changes to it won't affect psyker's lightning

neon laurel
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Reminds me of the Mortis Trials lightning stuff. Well that's neat!

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I haven't played Warhammer since 3rd ed so I'm not as familiar with the Adeptus Mechanicus stuff

icy breach
jovial juniper
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Ek M2 but gun

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But probably not auto aim

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(?)

kind jay
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beam staff but it's an ilas

deft stump
jovial juniper
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Really looking forwards to see it ngl

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There's no way it'll be body shots

radiant frigate
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what if mechanicus class comes with plasma too

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vet stonks 📉

jovial juniper
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Will it be as good as plasma vet

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Or

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Will it have unique interactions with Red Robe

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Please give it a better cooling talents

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So I can shoot plasma 22 times before overheating

deft stump
jovial juniper
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But 1 shot breakpoints

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Right?

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RIGHT?

deft stump
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You can minmax build to 1 tap crushers.

jovial juniper
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Good enough
Welcome back Helbore

deft stump
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Otherwise, you only do 99% crusher hp damage.

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So ppl can't say gun op free 1 shot crushers.

jovial juniper
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When the class gets released and you access their channel

wraith sphinx
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Oh true forgot about unironic mechanicus simps lmao

deft stump
wraith sphinx
neon laurel
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Speaking of porn/simps, when will we get repentia cosmetics for zealot?

rancid geyser
ripe obsidian
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That's a beautiful warp resist

ripe obsidian
wraith sphinx
dire wharf
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Only took 6 milion creds

royal falcon
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sisters of battle watching zealots larp as repentia

jovial juniper
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Casual repentia vs professional repentia

tall mist
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New to Psyker really, looking for tips on how to improve general gameplay

tall mist
wraith sphinx
tall mist
dire wharf
wraith sphinx
# tall mist Well max for me. Also asking for a friend who is 17

To your friend I would recommend assail with both subnodes, active ability of your choice and empowered psionics keystone - just to get comfortable with peril management while getting a feel for weapons available to you and still having the capacity to perform well

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Psyker staves are... not really good until you get into the 400-500 power level range so relying on your blitz will carry you while still leveling up and having no souped up weapons available to you

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When I was levelling up I was rocking assail, venting shriek and stub revolver + blaze force sword. Most melee options are fine for psyker, but I would avoid heavy sword, chainsword and chainaxe unless you rly want to use them

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If you decide to play gun psyker, you should switch to scrier's gaze though, by far the best fit for guns and melee

tall mist
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He does enjoy shooting

wraith sphinx
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Recon lasgun is the safest choice for getting good at shooting

winged creek
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there's an argument to be made for shredder auto pistol as well though its ammo economy isn't nearly as good as recon lasgun, heavy las pistol good option if going blaze force great sword

wraith sphinx
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Maybe but I haven't heard about a lot of new players gelling well with braced fire only guns while learning the ropes, myself included

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Either way the path to lvl 30 will absolutely be the roughest, and for a little while beyond that. All the shittalk I got about being a bad psyker player happened within like my first 50 or so hours of playing psyker and I don't remember anyone ever critiquing me since I got a hang of most of the psyker's talent and weapon synergies

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So good luck and have fun - the class is overall more powerful than it used to be when I started playing but I still consider it the most fun and rewarding class to play as alongside hscum

tall mist
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I'm mainly an Ogryn main, but looking to play others for penances

wraith sphinx
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I'm a psyker main as you may have guessed lol

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Not necessarily the best, probably far from it, but decent enough and I still enjoy the hell out of the class 1.5k hours in

olive oar
jovial juniper
#

I've seen it

olive oar
# jovial juniper I've seen it

You did not, and is it a prerequisite to be condescendending on this server in order to have some serious talk with proper arguments.

jovial juniper
#

No no I've seen it

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And I actually think you should keep doing it

urban meteor
#

Is it just me or sometimes BR takes a longer while to cast?

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prob me cuz several times for buffs n all

verbal thistle
#

whatever, go my 5000 shooters

formal harness
formal harness
#

yup

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that's gunners alright

verbal thistle
#

holy

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@spice aurora I found the night I met you

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oct 24, 2025

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I remember this night

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all 2 handed fury martyrdom zealots

urban meteor
verbal thistle
#

Are you using left or right click?

urban meteor
#

mostly left

verbal thistle
urban meteor
#

but like I said, it's prob my brain getting used to the augmented cast time

verbal thistle
#

do you have this talent?

urban meteor
#

resonance and EP

verbal thistle
#

yeah

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only 3 things change brain burst speed

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resonance, ep, and blue stims

urban meteor
#

good to know stimms change it

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I thought it did nothing as usual

verbal thistle
thorn cedar
verbal thistle
#

ded

thorn cedar
#

from gold to zero

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ngl kinda hooked on Impassible and Retaliatory Defence on Zealot lately

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makes for an interesting kind of front lining where you're absurdly agile

rich spindle
urban meteor
#

and "Casualty"

verbal thistle
#

that was a minimum of 3 bursters

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btw

urban meteor
#

Fatshark don't even say they don't want you to spawn cheese anymore

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they just look at you like that

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(that is "💥")

frail oar
#

Dog ragdolls are the best

pure plinth
thorn cedar
#

i have very little dueling sword experience

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if you parry an attack and are brought to zero stamina, does your parry still go off?

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block cost reduction does apply to the parry since it is considered to be blocking

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but if you dont get stunned at zero stamina when engaging a parry then Retaliatory wont proc off of that

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(but it would immediately proc off of the next non-parry block)

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i just find it very fun with relic blade, and its a nice safety net for the awkward times where i'm turning the sword on and a bulwark happens to bonk me in that exact moment and eats all my stamina + stun

royal falcon
rich spindle
thorn cedar
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thank u for your contribution to this matter

royal falcon
thorn cedar
#

then it works

buoyant maple
verbal thistle
#

that was 3 bursters

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it was a surge

buoyant maple
#

Oh lol

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I’m starting to think they broke surge again

verbal thistle
#

probably

buoyant maple
#

Duo last night had me on surge for like 6 minutes straight

rich spindle
#

Yeah I’ve had insane surges

thorn cedar
#

medically concerning surge durations

rich spindle
#

Please contact a doctor if you experience a surge lasting longer than 4 minutes

zinc phoenix
#

So what did the teaser thing mean?

kind jay
#

Surge was a pretty good drink

zinc phoenix
#

Probably “drink more ovaltine”

kind jay
#

damn this came out in june 97?

thorn cedar
#

i have vague memories of it

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along with Jolt

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and Balls

kind jay
#

i guzzled balls at a con once

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was for a contest or something

thorn cedar
#

i really liked Jolt but i couldnt tell you why

kind jay
#

this one right?

jovial juniper
#

Unless they fixed it

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I have a video about it

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Somewhere

thorn cedar
verbal thistle
jovial juniper
thorn cedar
#

common MK1 L

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well if u wanna test it again with retaliatory defence lol

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id be curious to see if even after proccing parry if itll still proc retali

rich spindle
verbal thistle
#

@spice aurora was it you that @'ed me about the fake stun nade throws?

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I found a clip of mine

thorn cedar
#

theyre called blinders cause u dont even see them go

rich spindle
#

Yeah he has fake nade clips

verbal thistle
#

wanna see a trick?

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This is how you fly

jovial juniper
#

Speedheads when they have to slow down for 0.001 second

zinc phoenix
urban meteor
#

I'm genuinely going to rip my face off and chew it like a fine chicken breast slice

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What the hell is this game's AI

verbal thistle
#

enemy or ally?

urban meteor
#

Ally

verbal thistle
#

bad

sturdy basalt
#

id say ally

verbal thistle
#

it was coded for their older game

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which had alot less information that needed to be processed

thorn cedar
#

it was pretty bad there too

urban meteor
#

Apparently it was coded for Dark Heresy because these idiots play like it's that

rich spindle
#

I genuinely do not res bots, they blow up bursters on you because they hold block so much and have no stamina

thorn cedar
#

i keep one bot for the ammo

verbal thistle
#

I got true solo QoL to remove bots

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because at the start they'd get me killed

urban meteor
#

At least in VT you could easily kill your bots

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here it ain't as easy

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you have to just let them die

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but that's not gonna happen before they pull some bullshit

rich spindle
#

Another reason why Gloriana is the best map

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Ez bot removal at start

urban meteor
#

If only it was that easy to remove players too

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not that they're as bad as AI

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but I've never seen a Host without having to fight it

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at least it knows who's the idiot

spice aurora
verbal thistle
#

was a good night

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we didnt win, but we played dumb team comps

spice aurora
#

SLIGHTLY BELOW META team comp

olive oar
#

About parry, having Kinetic Deflection allows for parries to trigger until you have 97% peril, it parries even Crusher's and Mauler's overheads, but there's a small caveat when you do this.
As some of you may already know, when parrying there's no gap between the parries, so you are completely protected from multiple attacks if you are precise enough in your timing, but overheads do introduce a delay where you can't parry again.

verbal thistle
spice aurora
#

declined from 90000000 games

verbal thistle
#

going through my clips

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and I found where I started my Psyker H40 solos

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I started around the start of February

rich spindle
spice aurora
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I DONT HAVE ONE Q_Q

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i had a decent one that was one of my only 380s b4 the weapon update and i havent touched it since xD

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380 base but it got crap upgrades

rich spindle
#

You can genuinely go to the armory buy a random grey one and do 2m damage w it

verbal thistle
spice aurora
#

we love slot system

rancid geyser
rich spindle
#

It’s so apparent in that room

verbal thistle
#

some more

rich spindle
#

I tried a few times after watching your clips, you can do ridiculous things in that room by hugging the wall

verbal thistle
#

yeah, flat walls are the easiest to use and this room is large

rancid geyser
verbal thistle
rich spindle
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I never thought about it for like 2k hours of the game

kind jay
#

what is it you're showing?

verbal thistle
#

limiting the amount of enemies able to attack me + forcing certain enemy pathing

kind jay
#

ohhh

jovial juniper
#

Average slots moment

rancid geyser
rancid geyser
#

like learning all interactions in League --- it's just on th elist

verbal thistle
#

just ranged use it differently

#

still applicable

calm sapphire
verbal thistle
#

there are no I-frames

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but I understand what you ares saying

#

correct, dodge state cant stop a net if it physically touches you

calm sapphire
#

does sliding help

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or am i mis remembering

verbal thistle
#

dodge linger

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in short, her aim is a little worse

rich spindle
#

Don’t worry you can use the psychic wall ability to block nets though

jovial juniper
#

Right?

kind jay
#

hit that bitch with a warp slice flayer haha i can hit your ass through the horde just you can

calm sapphire
#

tho tbh I dont see much of em

kind jay
#

i imagine they get rejected a lot

main jolt
#

dueling sword still slaps even after the blessing change or is there a better blessing than uncanny? pepehmmm

rich spindle
#

What difficulty are you playing on mostly

main jolt
#

auric

rich spindle
#

I think brittle is a little underpowered in auric

thorn cedar
#

uncanny is still good but yea crushers are somewhat rare now

rich spindle
#

Did they change in auric too?

thorn cedar
#

yea

rich spindle
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That sucks

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Tbh crushers are so rare now I wouldn’t take uncanny anymore

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Personally

thorn cedar
#

so you'll see a handful across an entire mission and fairly rarely youll bump into a small patrol of maybe six at once if you're really lucky

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since what you'll usually see is one or two at a time they tend to get decimated pretty quickly by everybody present

rich spindle
#

Same in havoc pretty much

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It’s sad

main jolt
#

staff deals with crushers easy enough

thorn cedar
#

yea

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i think they need like

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30% more hp

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i dont mind the current number of them but i do feel bad about how easily they are bullied when they do show up

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if they can survive just two or three extra big hits from people then they can retain some presence

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maulers are the real crushers right now

main jolt
#

so change uncanny to something like riposte maybe?

rich spindle
#

I’d typically run 2 damage blessings like precog/riposte or shred/riposte

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You can stick with uncanny if you want

#

Doesn’t really matter much

knotty saddle
#

theyre... theyre asking for more crushers...

thorn cedar
#

double crit blessing is pretty nice

thorn cedar
#

waiter, waiter, more giant armoured bears please

fathom adder
#

Thrustbros is it our time?!

thorn cedar
#

no thrust is still dogshit

kind jay
#

i always want more. like, indomitable rager trains except crushers

thorn cedar
#

one day fatshark will stop being cowards and make scab ragers carapace main

rich spindle
#

But then you can’t solo entire waves with inferno staff

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That’s bad game design

thorn cedar
#

i know, im erect at the thought alone

rich spindle
#

How are you supposed to kill them

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Melee them?

#

You’re not supposed to do that in this game

thorn cedar
#

aim at their head

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oh wait

#

-laughs at ur impotent staff-

kind jay
#

staff bonk

rich spindle
#

Make staff bonk do the dog emp on heavy attack

thorn cedar
#

lmao

verbal thistle
#

the wombo combo

thorn cedar
#

the cspawn legit waited for his pal pogryn to show up

olive oar
thorn cedar
#

what i want are for crushers to be like a miniboss

olive oar
#

What they did to crushers already were aggravating enough.

verbal thistle
#

whoops, I'm not in zelchat

rich spindle
#

Banned

thorn cedar
#

you know the thammer rocks the tits off every monster fight, but is otherwise pretty milquetoast or trash in every other scenario on the map? i want the things that nuke crushers to be balanced in a similar way

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now that uncanny strike is out that solves a lot of those problems and toning down the prevalance of crushers means the value of brittle/rending has gone down appropriately

kind jay
#

I'm down for making crushers more dangerous. give them a melta

thorn cedar
#

give them TWO weapons

verbal thistle
#

dreg crushers

fathom adder
knotty saddle
#

they need to add armored dogbursters before anything else

#

smh

thorn cedar
#

i would love to see another shield enemy that takes the place of shield rats from VT2

#

the push twice mechanic wasnt super deep or anything but it was enough to mix things up

rich spindle
# thorn cedar what i want are for crushers to be like a miniboss

I agree. The ideal design space for them seems to me to be something that does not die to “easy” methods like dots, aoe spam, or stun locking, something very slow and easy to dodge, that applies a slowly approaching iceberg type of pressure to players that must be solved head on

thorn cedar
fathom adder
thorn cedar
#

that isnt happening right now when one poor schmuck shows up and gets knocked right off his feet and kicked in the nuts

verbal thistle
rich spindle
#

I think if they’re ideally buffed with more hp / stagger resist you wouldn’t need more than like 4 at any time in h40

thorn cedar
#

ye

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i mean whatever number they come up with

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i am okay with a krak grenade nuking them in one

#

i still think that's the gold standard

kind jay
#

what if crushers had to be stripped of armor plates before you can hurt the health and stagger

verbal thistle
#

like drg armor?

thorn cedar
#

too much work

kind jay
#

kinda

rich spindle
kind jay
#

similar but without refreshing

dire wharf
urban meteor
#

What a different weapon these guys have

kind jay
#

i guess I'm thinking of some mechanics instead of just more health

dire wharf
urban meteor
#

what the fuck

kind jay
#

made in russia

urban meteor
#

Gore of my comfort weapon

rich spindle
#

In theory I could see them being Temu captains with hit damage limited armor you remove being interesting

#

Would make chain weapons good

dire wharf
urban meteor
#

Every weapon is a divine tool

#

'cept this one

rich spindle
#

In reality too complex to add to the game. Would need visual overhaul

fathom adder
kind jay
#

why use barrel when bullet does all the work

urban meteor
#

Back in Old School, we eat the bullet and spit it

#

a real lead spitter

thorn cedar
#

(they did not actually do this)

#

man i spent like almost 35hrs watching a single documentary on just the battle of stalingrad

#

makes you reappreciate life

verbal thistle
#

I am making a cursed build for a dumb youtube video idea

#

rate

urban meteor
#

No spark 'ead me no understand

#

But unironically

kind jay
#

6/10 why smoke nade instead of stims?

#

(idk what I'm looking at either)

#

if it's a cursed build it's good by default

rich spindle
verbal thistle
#

Dbarrel

rich spindle
#

2x reload blessings?

verbal thistle
#

Yeah

rich spindle
#

Oh yeah

#

Why you takin the weak pot damage talent

verbal thistle
#

had 1 point extra and it works for ranged and melee

#

so why not

rich spindle
#

What’s the other upgrade for desperado

#

That you ain’t take

#

Isn’t it duration extend

eager token
#

hows surge staff these days

rich spindle
#

Left click, amazing, right click, good

spice aurora
#

melee psyk vs chud purg >:[

eager token
jovial juniper
#

Pretty eh

eager token
#

perhaps a goofy lil warp unbound surge build is in order this evening

rich spindle
#

I think in auric people say left click surge steals kills faster than inferno

spice aurora
#

if you like competitive fps its kind of fun as a secondary to just quickly kill shit with

urban meteor
# spice aurora

I don't know why they didn't just put this in the base game

#

They're not strangers to leaderboards either

rich spindle
#

In the current balance of the game where it’s mostly a race to see who can get kills first I don’t think it’s a good idea to add

jovial juniper
#

Ok so

#

There was this game

#

Called Ratkillers 2

#

Oh wait, wrong script

#

Ahem

#

Green circle chasers in vt2 ruined leaderboard

thorn cedar
#

i will always stand by the removal of the scoreboard

kind jay
crisp ether
urban meteor
#

Well yeah, but it's not exactly Overwatch

thorn cedar
#

Overwatch also perfectly exemplified why scoreboard/number highlights are usually bad

crisp ether
#

Yeah. Which is even more confusing that people get toxic about scoreboards

urban meteor
#

besides going to where the funny marker points, there isn't a whole lot that isn't beating something to death

#

Support is not as present

fathom adder
royal falcon
#

And what support there is (toughness replenishment, buffing, crowd control, etc.) all gets annoyingly overshadowed by "just kill the enemies lul"

urban meteor
#

Maybe it's cuz I hardly played with randoms, but I didn't feel the lb toxicity

#

not as much

#

9/10 the green circles go to the funny elf or gnome, and me and my buds would just recognize that it came down to how we're set

thorn cedar
#

toxicity sucked but more than that it also quietly pushes players into achieving big number at the expense of the actual gameplay

#

you're not going to top an infernus psyker on the scoreboard by hanging back with a gun and shooting all the specials that spawn but if you didnt that psyker would be netted and pancaked etc

eager token
#

not me im the best psyker

#

...

kind jay
#

guess we don't need scoreboard anymore

dire wharf
#

How about a scoreboard that only shows your stats

thorn cedar
#

same issue

jovial juniper
royal falcon
#

how it feels to play darktide without a bitch in your ear (scoreboard) telling you how bad you may or may not have played

thorn cedar
#

vibestide

kind jay
#

new mechanic: the highest and lowest performing psyker gets fed to the emperor

#

if not a psyker, you get turned into a servitor

royal falcon
#

what if you’re the only psyker on the team

kind jay
#

believe it or not, straight to the emperor

royal falcon
#

fug

jovial juniper
#

The truth is

#

The emperor's gets to eat from the start

royal falcon
#

This is why the Imperium is dying ong frfr no cap

#

We should instead all turn to chaos (Nurgle)

kind jay
#

you son of a bitch im in

#

we need a mode where a group of 4 plays the enemies kinda like doom. it just puts you in a random elite or special and you try to kill the reject players

white sky
#

I think that took like 7 years or some shit in VT2

potent echo
#

Ah yes

#

Yet another new game mode KEKW_ogryn

fathom adder
kind jay
#

excellent

deft stump
urban meteor
kind jay
#

nooo not eac

urban meteor
#

maybe you could even turn it on optionally if you're with a full party/private team

#

then there's no rando bs

#

only known bs

#

Also why isn't the fast infrantry lasgun model automatic

#

If I was a painkiller ad character, my finger would be bright red while the rest of my body is blue

#

thanks fs

eager token
#

ok is it me or is the uptime on scriers stupid

fathom adder
fathom adder
dire wharf
radiant frigate
#

full auto ilas just feels weird

urban meteor
radiant frigate
#

there is of course the full auto mod

urban meteor
#

it's the stereotypical "have a lot of bullet shoot fast rifle"

urban meteor
#

It's like you have to use mods for stuff that reasonably should just be in the game

fathom adder
#

Need mods to shortcut your way to anything in the mission hub (except the cosmetic shop)

urban meteor
#

I'll never get over how the other game just didn't have a "no zoom" option

#

and that the sensitivity was just all over the place on aim

#

What matters is that I'm over it now

#

It's not like I still think of how it felt like playing a Puppet Combo game, with the environment rushing in and out constantly

#

I'm over it

urban meteor
#

Vermintide didn't have a lesser zoom or a zoom bar no nothing

#

At least not on the Longbow

#

You could zoom even more in though

#

idk why you would, with the first zoom you're perceiving each atom

radiant frigate
#

on waystalker in particular yes

#

because waystalker can zoom with everything

#

even swiftbow/hagbane

urban meteor
#

ah yeah

#

but everyone just didn't have a no-zoom either way

#

which is kind of a bummer

#

you'd just have to pick what naturally had little

#

or none

radiant frigate
#

all the weapons with zoom were meant for long range anyway

#

and then ofc there was manbow

#

which had variable zoom based on how long you hold it

#

and you could release before it zooms in

urban meteor
#

I didn't really like any other bow besides long

#

So I just endured the tragedy

#

Of having to John Wick with a microscope directly under my eye

radiant frigate
#

this is also not a complaint that has ever entered my mind

#

but i can see why one might take issue with it

#

because i too take issue with things that are "ok whatever" to others

urban meteor
#

It's really niche, because it only ever is a problem if you're trying to John Wick long range weapons

#

if I just didn't do that, it'd be nigh-fine

urban meteor
spice aurora
#

y isnt this working to get ppl to do havoc

#

SMH

kind jay
#

tell them youre doing sedition, then drag into havoc

knotty saddle
potent echo
#

Faaaaaaaah
Faaah
Faah

plucky flax
#

Dead game

spice aurora
knotty saddle
icy breach
fresh reef
#

going through and reading the descriptions on cosmetics

#

some of these are absolutely golden

#

"fuck you, fart aura"

rapid goblet
primal ravine
#

guys whats the best blessing for pyro staff rn?

jovial juniper
#

Blaze Away Nexus

kind jay
dusk timber
#

the kf proc lmao

kind jay
#

bad dog

dusk timber
#

bog

zinc sparrow
kind jay
urban meteor
dire wharf
# kind jay

This is the funniest thing I've seen all day and now I need to turn darktide and see if I can do it

spice aurora
#

@verbal thistle guess who jumped off the map in the beginning of the game cuz i played scum without crate (we have a zel with aura on blight)

#

xddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

#

hes still afking bruh moment

kind jay
#

truly a bruh moment

urban meteor
#

Being totally honest

#

if fgs didn't have warpshock, or Illisi had it, I'd just use Illisi

#

Thankfully for it, Illisi special action might as well not be there at all

knotty saddle
#

also ranged psyker is really boring

#

;.;

fiery stratus
#

is surge staff better against carpace now? I'm assuming soulblaze isn't as good because of the uncanny changes. surge staff direct damage better?

kind jay
#

surge has always been good vs carapace

spice aurora
#

we won anyway but still stayed fully afk

#

lol

verbal thistle
#

lol

spice aurora
#

just moved to prevent afk kick i guess

verbal thistle
#

baby rage

#

so funny

#

I like how people complain when they are not host

spice aurora
#

he knows me too which is weird

#

WTB master manipulation class on how to hijack morningstar warriors for havoc gaemmode