#psyker-class
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yeah
they are easy
just annoying
the only time I died to those 2 were memes
I got ledges at the start to ogryn when I was joking
and burgle ate me when I gave up and a burster hit me inside
unironically I feel like C.Spawn is easier than both of these
delete the flesh bag on the spot no hesi
Plogryn always manages to toss me at least onces and get me in a bad spot
and Beast of Nurgle is just annoying
always and forver annoying
does rotten armor infested override (in the upcoming patch) mean soulblaze will use infested ADMs instead of carapace against e.g. rotten crushers? i have no idea what the override actually means
that sounds about right
it will change their armour type to infested -- is the assumption from the post
that would be huge
If that's how it works I might even make an extra copy of certain weapons specifically for that.
reminder that this only count base armor
they still have carapace part
like how scab rager body is carapace but their base armor is flak
its also possible that they dont change the base armor type and just change the chest/head armor to infested
curious to see what exactly they do with it though
that would make rotten armor actually piss easy because all weapon have good infested adm
Deflector doesn't deflect snipers right?
You still die, if that's what you are asking.
deflector is ass
I think only oggy slab plant blocks them.
oggy slab block everything but explosion and grab
Nah deflector is actually decent when boxing with nonsters
if you're confused with kinetic deflection then warp ghost is easier to get on staff build and you have 1 more talent point
yeah except you didn't need that since you can just use movement
blocking ranged attack is not that good
Nah, sometimes movement is not enough to avoid damage
especially since it mean not taking superiority
but well uncanny nerf soon
so ig you can get deflector
Deflector is more than fine.
Melee weapons only really need 1 damage blessing. Especially the force swords
Pretty hard to move rescuing people.
Sometimes, you just have one chance.
^
You miss it, you need to solo to next point which might be after an event.
Soloing events can be really hard if you aren't literally the top 0.01% of players.
I mean sure but I'm one of the people who would like to prevent that in the first place
You could try to prevent something all you want. That doesn't ensure that a bad situation like that won't arise
Contingency at a small cost
talking about current aka before patch meta deflector is just a massive opportunity cost over uncanny or superiority
There are times where a C.spawn can pack you into a wall and that extra block cost reduction is the difference between you getting blown up by the C.Spawn or ranged enemies
It's different opportunity cost but juxtaposing defense vs offense isn't really a good comparison
Having more damage doesn't mean you'll get to use it when shafted, posted up on a wall like some corner rat in Tertium
π
I mean 37.5% permanent strength boost is uh
yeah but when its 137.5% of your damage + more + calculated before other modifier it changes thing innit
plus psyker already got tons of defensive talent from the rework + warp ghost
1 only that much of your damage if focused on melee
2 this is the same for damage
it's affect dot
Between, MM,CF, SG ,DD, WS, ER, WR, VM and PoTS there is too much damage to be acting like this
Cool that it affects dots but just because things can affect something that is blatantly overpowered, does not mean other things in the game are just "bad"
they both have their pros and cons. more damage is great in general, but your damage is 0 if youre dead. deflector lets you do some things that can be a run saver (block 40 gunners, bosses, rez in the middle of 40 ragers, reposition, etc)
but you kill a bit slower. neither is good 100% of the time. thats the fun of it
Killing slower is fine if it means you make it through an encounter. It's why builds don't go all out on damage even when they could
Dueling sword might be meta
But force greatsword air slash is 
Meta is never DS lul.
You used to go fs for ranged uncanny.
Ranged guaranteed uncanny.
If melee, FGS is meta.
Flurry blaze trauma with gaze 
Speaking of FGS, how about one handed force swords
Seems like mobility is better
Which would be better for a staff psyker
Is fun
Deimos or Obscurus. IDK after next week.
Probably deimos for at least coping with crushers
i see people using the MkVI FGS over the MkVIII FGS, is it personal or is there something im missing? im a fan of the MkVIII
Which one has a heavy stab
they both have a heavy stab i think, but on the MkVIII its a shove followup
I don't remember the number but I use the one that kills crushers faster
the MkVIII has the really wide swings. the MkVI has smaller swings with stabs
Usually the wide swinger sacrifices single target damage
i can still one-two shot crushers with it. granted i need to stack up DD but i figure thats a given
Melee build then. I'm mostly doing bubble build since people need bubble a lot
i used to be double build too, but then i picked up a bolter and ive been melee ever since
bolter psyker
ok i know it doesnt make sense me finding the bolt pistol made me a melee class but hear me out
the boltpistol has beeg fucking boolets, and it has enough damage to almost guarantee a kill on anything smaller than a weaker than a rager. with DD i can delete any enemy with the bolter instantly and switch back right away, switching between fgs and bolter
ALSO, boltpistol's big bullets makes hitting weakspots really really easy, so even in the heat of melee i can get weakspot hits and get double stacks on DD
So it's like a revolver
yhea, but the bolter has better stagger, and the stagger aoe can knock over the specialists while i focus on the mobs with melee
shoot & forget
i guess
I mean
Doesn't voidstrike also work
Mk6 is the DPS king. Heavy spam.
Basically on things that matter.
Mk6 has better sustain single target damage
uncanny very questionable now. Not because of the lower numbers, but because it's brittleness so you have to apply it one by one on every enemy
first hit it does nothing, second hit 20%, only third hit 40% if all weakspot hits
maybe it's still ok with the weapon adm buffs
obscurus should be better due to the elite combo being 3 hits
new uncanny does look a little silly
gives more reason to do blaze special melee
instead of do it once to get 120% rending
time for blazing spirit illisi meta
I'm down to clown with the uncanny nerf if the carapace enemy nerfs actually go through as advertised
no no
just full power illisi meta
unstable slaughterer
POWER
fatshark realizing that they made the chaos warrior equivalent too polarizing (weapons that suck into carapace barely tickle on headshots too)
I don't play vermintide, what equivalent is that?
honestly i would use it. i mained deflector/slaughter illisi back in the olden days and it did well
i thought about it earlier because i dont think i ever actually tried it with sg
Crusher but actual threat and proper moveset. Actually miniboss.
Can totally still one blep you if you fuck up. Not counting cata.
Cata is nearly anything can if you aren't IB Bardin.
If they made it harder or easier after, IDK. I stopped playing after paid cata.
i wish fgs had bloodthirsty
crushers
Wouldn't suit it nearly as well though
Bloodthirsty needs a spammy special
fgs has the same special as illisi but yeah its slower
They aren't spammed like crushers.
the demonic are without number...
Illisi will probably only be used by me
It's a comfy weapon for chaff killing and tickling monsters
One day we will have a staff that kills bosses 
Empyric Shock Surge Surge I guess
I hate it on multiple levels
I need to aim 
thanks i love this
EK...
Start plinking away
Catch a stray
Then pack it up for a day
Clicking is fun though, and EK doesn't do bad damage into bosses
Even less so if you have unyielding on it
ek is pretty safe and quick enough if you got all the buffs up it chunks
i always start by stacking es and then do rmb 2x and lmb to keep es up
it aint gonna nuke but itll get the job done
I always run mine with Cara+Unyielding with CF and PotS
Might not be pretty to some, but it gets the job done.
i have the exact same build rofl
Chunkiest crit damage you will see on the weapon
Been running it like that for a hot minute. People clowned on PoTS and CF heavy
Both are massive damage increases for the staff on the enemies that matter
It kills literally everything but crushers, bulwark and monsters without help
i mean it still kills ogryns fast enough if youre keeping buffs up
the keyword i use is "safe". its good damage from a distance.
ek crits are nasty enough that you can chunk crushers just by lmb headshots
pots actually makes that damage significant
and you can stack es on bulwark shields before you rmb
Well when I talk about it, it's more that everything you point at just dies on the spot but those enemies
I think even on full stacks each ogryn take 3-5 seconds of commitment not including KF. I'm not calling it bad because it's about the same for melee
yeah thats about right, which is why i also throw in the safe argument
Any idea how to make scryer sfx disappear or less obvious? Turning down sfx volume helps but it's still drowning the rest.
it usually gets drowned out for me
im not sure there actually is a way to do that
if you can find and edit the file that might help
if you know how to get to the note pad
wait
that may be peril fx mod
Will uncanny strike still be the go-to blessing on force swords after the upcoming patch?
lets say 'one of the' go-to blessings instead, at worst
holy hell i cant believe i survived this please someone get me some new underwear
EK go BrrrrrrAAap!
I like how you fought the urge to pull out the melee until the end
just felt more comfortable handling it with staff out
im not bad with melee but definitely less proficient than i am with ranged
There should be an option in settings where there is a peril fx slider. You should have this in vanilla iirc
Just slide it all the way down to turn it off completely. It's super annoying lol
I think it's in the accessibility menu
That setting is only for the visual afaik
because it was turned to the minimum for me
peril FX in interface settings?
I might be a slut for meta builds
Inferno staff just feels so good to play correctly
yeah but that did not take care of the sound
idk then
I need help getting the "Malleus Monstronum" penance.
It is literally the last penance that I need for the psyker. I even managed to get cliffhanger recently with the help of kind stranger, but this one is pretty much impossible because what friends I do have either don't play often or are never playing at the same time as me.
Still need help?
yeah
What's your FatShark code, fren
Head to the Social tab between Penances and Party Finder, then hit the Find Player button and it should show your code underneath your name on the left
sent it to you
well done
man I love no mans land
goated map
goated music
Good Lord man that's some lunacy right there
If those plays don't prove the Emperor protects then idk what does
mornin my fellow warp madmen and women how we doin today?
i got a question if i want to use fgs wat range should i pick and the blessings/traits on it
for a melee psyker
Recon las and las pistol are the two best options
cool ty'
Recon with flak manic and DumDum and infernus Collateral dump.
Pistol with flak maniac, and dumdum and desperado stability dump
cool ty
i need a better recon las but i can work on that soon
need to get masteries up on some stuff so ima be doin that for a bit
Vraks 5 infantry autogun
wats the diff between vraks 5 and the other one
also all these outfits posted are great
Vraks 5 is higher dps than them both
But has recoil to think about
But itβs not that much recoil tbh
cool i normally adjust for recoil by default in most games and screw up with no recoil half the time
Vraks 5 feels like using the OG MW2 M4 tbh
There's recoil but it's barely there
Shoots fast
Kills fast
The iron sights remind me of MW3 mp7
You can't post images anyway, dm it to me
sent
yea that one
Looks like uhhh,
The one that just rotated through cash shop? Attilan something something's
i just missed it didnt i?
Athonian Tunnel Rats
By like a month or so
ah so ill have to wait
Yeah, simple as really
is there a way i can cast the brain rupture blitz faster?
There's a talent for it that has attacks auto apply it onto elites(with a mild cooldown) that's very good
which talent?
Kinetic flayer
oh i see
Brain rupture has another subnode that allows u charge use it faster after using an ability
And the middle keystone can improve its charging speed & damage
But rly if u use brain rupture u should always have kinetic flayer
Super truthful, with the Soulblaze thing, it even helps it proc without switching up
fire usually lasts the whole CD, effectively maximizing the uptime on it, 0 time wasted on full battery
It even works better with Creeping Flames but one whole point just to flame some enemies tops isn't really my thing
I love when I am just running away and suddenly I hear a pop saying I killed an elite with kinetic flayer and random viral soulblaze
Sic it on a large enough crowd and it never stops
one (1) stack of soulblaze and some poor bomber's skull randomly explodes
Hey so do we have any explanation on why there's so many damn Psykers being recruited?
Where do they keep finding Psykers strong enough to cast with Deamons actively around them in the Warp?
And more importantly why are these Psykers just random criminals instead of Sanctioned Psykers or maybe Librarians
weren't a good amount of them on black ships before being swept up into the Mourningstar
Crazy how many expert Psykers are in there
The quick and lazy response is that is just for gameplay reasons
gideo vame
The lore like one is that the moebian domain do be full of Psykers
The moment you start saying that it's 'For gameplay reasons' is when you stop having fun
I personally find it much more fun to assume every single decision was made with lengthy consideration of the lore implications and that everything should be taken completely seriously and intended
Nice line of thought
But unfortunately
There's no lore reason as to why ogryn gun sucks
hive scum and arbites working together
And well
technically there isnt a lot
but functionally there is
cause the lore cant really work with tons of players
Ogryns stoopid
Keep smacking gun
And eating funny black stuff in boolet
But now gun weak :(
and a limit to how many ppl can play a class would suck
Same character that can overpower a spaez Mareens
Can't 1 shot human

But it's a part of the lore that Ogryns are plentiful on the moebian domain
No you're wrong they clearly spent 12 weeks thinking over the lore effects of the quantity of Psykers near Atoma and debating what this would do to the rest of the Warhammer as a whole
There's a whole moebian regiment that due to logistics error has too many ogryns
So maybe there's a bunch of Psykers on the domain too
Specially post cursed scar
Age of the witches and all
Turns out a few dozen black ships took a wrong turn in the Warp and just assumed Terra redecorated, so now there's a few thousand Psykers here
And then they started having kids and they were also Psykers and by now we really can't get them out of the gene pool
imagine having kids in the Imperium
And because the psykers ended in Atoma
They didn't meet the quota
So the Arbites had to step in

Krieg certainly does
At least they probably do
I'm telling you there's still a chance that they're clones
And the reason Atoma is so fucked by Chaos is the Emperor didn't get enough snacks one day and a bunch of Deamons and Heretics came in while he was hungy
clonekers
we also manhandle burgles and ploggies and demonhosts
we get barfed on, eaten, and shrug it off
you can tell we are beta tier psykers cause we got the beta helmet
or maybe the B is for Beloved
idk
beloved = beta I fear
how do you guys feel about electrokinetic staff
in havoc
I was running it with bubble and it felt... underwhelming? maybe?
shouldve taken venting shriek I think
Honestly everything will feel underwhelming with bubble
Trauma staff is more fun
yeah but if dont my teams get ripped apart aaaaaaaa
Electro is more geared towards anti gunner and special
But sacrificing horde clear
im thinking I would take greatsword with it
electrokinetic is pretty defensive if elites get on top of me, so I dont feel like I need force sword or dueling as much
Yeah but clearing a horde with melee is still slower than inferno, but we all should know that. It's just about fun
Good staff
higui fun fact
Pretty 1 dimensional though
you were one of the first people to respond to me in the server
the others no longer post :3

I do be around
I joined and it was a straight line down lmao
force sword is not that bad
i might not be entirely cooked due to combat knife death
Start of match
Low battery alert
Ask for cover so I can change them out
Team obliges
Teammate says, "Fitting that a Psyker should need batteries"
Wearing Malcador fit
Enter VC, put on audiobook Malcador voice, joke that it's a bad habit I picked up from the Heresy days
Teammate leaves
they didnt like your joke so you made them disappear, classic psyker behavior
I was so embarrassed that I just stayed quiet for the rest of the match and didn't unplug my microphone to avoid it making the noise
Genuinely might be the lowest point of my Darktide career
Electro is the best man. Feels so good doing semi meaningful damage to bosses especially if you got kinetic flayer and unyielding on it
don't be embarrassed. embrace the weird
some of my best times happened from saying dumb shit in voice
in light of the recent blog post I will be removing uncanny strike blessing from all my weapons just to feel something again 
"I'm so lonely.... All the other rejects are scared of me...they think I am unstable.. I don't even have a name" was a very interesting interaction I had with a psyker call the "nameless psyker"
Alvin
i like when im using electrostaff and a dog leaps at me but brain burst hits it
actual jumpscare except I win
already did this so i can learn weapons without using it
since no way in hell am i using 40% max brittle
What the three psykers called Crunch, E Wizard, and Blue Crystals think at all times:
Wait up, I just realized that Scrier's Gaze covers it's own god damn cooldown
It's genuinely so busted
Even for a blitz devoted build
What does that even mean
It's already cooling down while you're using it
so when it ends, you're either almost there, or already there
Basically 100% uptime
except that you might want to quell a little
It's psykinetics aura that does that
Has nothing to do with gaze itself
ohhh
So it just doesn't block aura
not as op then, it only seemed like so because the level had one of those modifiers
So basically always proccing it
What does that even mean
The little yellow level modifiers
there's that hound one
super durable enemy or something
im quoting this to my warhammer friends
I want whatever you're smoking
Hunting Grounds with Indomitable?
Nah tbf, it didn't work the way it does now before
Psykinetic's Aura would cut cooldown but the actual cooldown timer wouldn't go until after the ability ended.
Now, it just counts down regardless.
neat
holy shit im red now
I think it's a little much 
Wtf since when
Happened since the tree rework.
My guess is, they did that to compensate for Psy Aura becoming percentage based?
But yeah you basically can just never blow up from Scrier's even without Warp Unbound because you can basically overlap casts.
That wasn't possible before.
Is it balanced?
Absolutely not.
But it's Psyker and Fatshark loves Psyker so
Because people don't talk about the inner workings of why Gaze is busted
That is a major part of it.
Its the sort of thing i talk about all the time
But i havent played much psyker in the last year
When I played Gaze after the rework
I saw that it was counting down after cast
And I legit just facepalmed
I mean, inf gaze buffs.
Two groups of ppl use it, smykers, who usually are a burden to the team and meleekers/gunkers, a tiny portion of psykers.
So former contributes to losses and the lower amount of people using seems to get it buffed in order to get ppl to use it.
And before anyone says, the moment I see two 5 wound smykers, I know the EXTREME weight I need to bear.
kamikazi psyker
how viable
(not)
i mean it could work tbh
maybe combined with shriek
You mean just kissing the floor all the time.
crystalline
They just go down to random groaners hitting them.
They smite tunnel vision the same area, then get backstabbed by 2-3 groaners.
it can be fun when it works but 90% of the time it just whiffs or all the elites die in the 0.000069 sec explode animation
so, ive tried out both marks of the FGS, and i simply do not understand how people like the MKVI more? it feels really sluggish to me
also the fact i need to combo into the stab, as opposed to the MKVIII which stabs from shove
because stab is mega damage and stab after shove only matter against bulwark
moveset is better as well
mk8 doesn't have a strikedown from running
better single target
amd perhaps more importantly, can go into a strikedown at any point in any combo
and the mk8 pushattack followup stab is good but unfortunately the single target combo from neutral starts from push and has a move inbetween that does not do damage
as opposed to mk6 just going bonk shank repeat
Haven't used mk8 in a while but isn't the running heavy some useless sweeping heavy too
yah
that just kills it imo
idk i like both quite equally
that the draw attack is also a sweep is nice for my assail spamming in hordes
I don't think they buffed forceswords nearly enough to compensate for the uncanny nerf
we shall see
i mean, is psyker particularly reliant on uncanny? i rarely use it
im fine taking something else for a change
not like we arent the strongest fucking class already
sad day for force swords but we have fgs
Now you'll always take FGS if you actually want to melee yeah
deimos will still have its H2
h2 has like 0.6 adm vs cara
oh i dont mean the damage
i mean the utility of throwing mfers on their face
two taps with the new uncanny gets you right back to max rending anyway
L1 H2 or PA H2, done
you can do stab after light1
Real
well psyker with speed on crit and scryer speed is something else
especially if you're using a shredder or a laspistol
Plus dd proc, you absolutely zoom 3 seconds at a time lol
nyoom
I agree

#buffIllisi
Although that Obscurus buff
Kinda crazy
im illiterate whatd they do to obscurussy
Made it more gooder or something
So i tried how to do flame psyker. And i just arround and spammed light attacks and maybe occasionally the heavier longer flame on ogryns is that pretty much it? I didnt die or take damage. Although i was only on damnation. I must be missing something ? Do i need to build up uncanny strikes on ogryns ?
Secondary fire is the flame staff's main way to deal damage
Uncanny only for Crushers
As current Soulblaze adm vs cara is 0.1
Everything else is 1 or 1+
So 5 melee hits and then flame?
Usually the other way around
Ok
Don't get used to Uncanny working this way because it's changing soon
I replaced uncanny with mercy killer on my knife, don't think I ever used that blessing before lol
knife stonks probably going down now
Knife has great blessing options so it should still be pretty good
So basically run around and stay alivewith the bursts then charge until it grasps and kill specialists and the. Keeping in mind the uncany strike. The problem is im not seeing a lot of kill spam on my screen which makes me think im bad. Im using the knife but i can switch to whatever with best in slot if its advised to switch to something else
I have 3 toughness 16 curious
Knife is fine and will continue to be after the Uncanny change, it has high mobility and it still covers the one base that Inferno Staff doesn't (Carapace)
Best single target damage 1h force sword now
Less stagger though than deimos
What a long strange ride it's had
from being the only, to fading into oblivion, to making an unexpected yet initially overlooked return because it coincided with the dawn of force greatsword
Never have I ever played such a dark ass game
I can see better in a no night vision Outlast run
But it's cool ig
Was it a lights out mission
executor should give global power no?
possibly
Main thing I love about it is that its strongest hit is H1 instead of the Deimos' H2
Into light follow ups
No
but like, if you set the gamma just tight like the game demands, it gets a little darker than ideal
I even keep it slightly above the mark
tide is dark ig
Kid named Darktide
What weapon combo do y'all like on psyker?
fgs/ek is my goto
Either BFG and inferno staff or BFG and shredder autopistol
Tactical axe and shredder auto/combat shotgun
Classic revolver ds4
Hands
Mk6 FGS + Mk2 Laspistol + Assail
Illisi Force Sword + EK , Mk6 FGS + EK
shredder is one of the best side arm of the meleeker ngl
fgs and laspistol/reconlas/EK
taxe revolver, deimos db shotgun, fgs crit shredder / bleedstol / slugshotgun
i see you subscribe to the "out of spells not out of shells" school of thought
Warband! Patch 1.11.6 is now being rolled out on all platforms, and while you wait for it to download you can read the notes below! This patch contains extensive balance changes, focused on Carapace Armoured enemies, particularly Ogryn Crushers. These enemies (and the tools used to counter them) have become a central part of the current meta. A...
SYLLO
LIKE RN?
I just finished my runs and started working
why did you do this to me
Yup it's syllo's fault
Bring fgs on all builds
why?
still seeing cara in psykhanium and doesn't seem to be affected +infected damage but who knows
it's specifically affect rotten armor and change their base armor
their entirely body is still carapace
did you see the override snippet above
and their base armor is still definitely cara because SB is doing nothing
but wait
with the uncanny change.. is the hour of pots upon us?
has bigfish found a way to make it relevant?
I guess (penetrating+pots)
yeah that require taking penetrating flame
but due to base sb adm change it better now
insightful
again i still don't think it worth it because you need to take pots and pen flame
penetrating also actually does something for your team now that they likely also have issues with their cara adms, though there's also going to be fewer of them
it specifically affect weapon with uncanny
since it got nerfed
weapon decent at carapace is still the same and weapon that bad against carapace is also still the same
but infested pools of hp now!!
they killed uncanny interaction with dots, that's the main thing
unless they LIES in the patch node (common occurrence) the infested base armor change only apply to rotten armor
Ye I know, so it's irrelevant for the majority of the player base
I am not sure people will see a difference outside of Havoc. If they struggled to deal with 6 crushers, reducing that to 4 won't really change anything. Finesse, crit weapons with good ADM will still reign king
inb4 people calling for caxe nerf
that would make Path mad
cake nerf
what would make fatshark nerf uncanny today of all days instead of any in the past 3 years

He would also do that though
Discussion was boiling over for the past 6 months tbf
they are slow with everything
What if they put contagious headache in the base skill tree?
it gives me so much of dopamine
crunch crack crack crack
Whatβs the meta build for Psyker
if you're not a bitch
fastest Swedish game dev update cycle
I'm genuinely so disappointed in Venting Shriek
Why would I even use it over Gaze, it also quells 50%
In turn, it does have much cooler lines
"Worship me or die!" VS "The warp flows through me"
Obvious choice
yeah I'm using it mostly because you can make literally everyone blue instantly
But like, the deciding factor really is the voice lines
If Gaze had it's lines I'd say bye bye
Counterpoint
Seer's overly long maniacal laugh
HAHAHAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAHAAAAAAA
its cool to kill people just by yelling at them
you manifest the power of a cod lobby, but with less slurs
true that, but it depends on personality
each have their own best CA line
sg is also great cause loner will yell shit like "i am unstoppable" then i immediately get crushered
i was, in fact, stoppable
in morgan freemans voice
The goofy "You're all going to die, isn't that fun?"
then get blown off the ledge
thats because nurgle takes control of one of my teammates and makes them barrel me
no slurping in the channel, thank you
Stagger on demand, soulblaze aplication, no tax points (for scriers you get that +10% melee dmg node pathing to go to the middle & left)
Yeahβ¦
Hes using a straw ok
Let him have fun
-taps sign-
also what 10% melee damage is good
like im a big slut for stamina but the +1 stam is deffo the worst on that row
When you use your ranged majority of the time it ainβt
if youre going scriers odds are youre gonna be doing some melee
More sprint, push & block
and even if not
well
its 10% unconditional melee damage
i do wish you could branch out more flexibly there though
Scream on a tough guys face and he will most certainly not budge
cause sometimes its the ranged one i dont want but im still taking shriek
type thing
I guess
But considering overall nature of psyker; 10% melee dmg is the worst
But I see it's uses, sometimes you just need some nobody to stumble a little
some nobodies
Lmao so wrong; shit staggers crushers even
Out of overheads
does it
Idk I tried to use it as a parry on some overhead
Ofc
straight up flattened my head
I have a clip at home; can show
I will show ya the clip once i come home

maybe it does
π― it does mah boi
I know it does, but seemingly not every time

Ye bosses donβt flinch
Not rly?
Since its a specific stagger tier if they suffer that tier or above they are immune to that stagger & below for 3s atleast (burgle is immune for longer; put as a curio)
you need at least 20% for the stagger to work on crushers
at least completely buffless
idk the stagger mechanics outside of that
Thats piss ez to achieve
- its stagger; saves lives
There is a reason i use venting over scriers on smite for example

oh for sure i was just pointing out that below 20 it doesnt work
One of many reasons i might add
Thx for that info

Yeah, I'm finding it a little underwhelming because I'm on EP
Even on a super fight, it's on 0%
Still using it though, "I AM DEATH[maniacal laughter]"
So hecking tuff block
I haven't touched this game for a while now. The recent nerf to uncanny strike, did it kill pure melee DS on psyker? I recall doing a SG build with it and can deal decent damage with normal DS hits on regular enemies
Or is it so-so? (Thinking of hopping in and doing old Blaze force sword melee instead again)
No, but FGS has always been better for melee psyker than DS
I just had alot of fun moving around with how agile one can be with DS. It's not meta, but it's fun for me to just hack and slash enemies
superiority is p. nice on deimos
I use that too; no issues
You donβt generate peril on vs to have 20%? Wtf
Creeping Flames is incredible though - Venting Shriek is not at all about the venting.
that modifier is the vast majority of the power of the ability (the rest is mostly space making and knocking dogs off of people through walls)
Yes I'm now using it at flames
But I'm not getting that much peril
Yeah you gotta find ways to pump your peril up
if you're running that stupid node that nerfs your peril and your toughness gen for example, I'd drop that for Venting Shriek for sure
I'm using Warp Rider just out of preferring it over Vuln Minds
I take both lol
Eh, don't like EP with shriek but you do you
shriek is so good I like warp siphon to be able to spam it even more
plus the In Fire Reborn synergy
If I'm running Shriek, then I want to be firing off a full power (or at least 67% peril+) Shriek as frequently and rapidly as possible
I took the sneaky battle meditation off, that was there from before
Took Just a Dream and took off Meditation
that should do it
there's even space for Vuln Minds
What ranged are you using if you're not getting much peril?
Only staff that doesn't generate much heat is ironically the flame one
but even that can be manipulated to force your peril up
Yeah I'm thinking of either Strike or Flame
I'm just not using one rn because I'm getting a little mastery on some guns
But my final choice would be Strike staff
I'm like really dogmatic with Psyker I guess? I like Scrier's on anything with a lot of Finesse
so I would take Scrier's with a gun or with Voidstrike
I can see Shriek working with it though, to be able to fight a crowd better, but normally I just take Assail with a gun to shore up my ammo etc
Hope it works out for you, whatever you end up setting up
Whatβs that
What spells do you get though
They buffed soulfire???
Am I missing something, wasnβt the last time I checked Soulfire was dummy broken already?
Yes
Yes
What talent tree is the meta is it the brain burst
That is one of them, yes
What do you do for damage
You're not missing anything


They must be smoking soulfire fumes
This game sucks
What talent tree is the meta is it the brain burst > What do you do for damage > This game sucks
you expect to push on button and kill everything?
yes, and we play it anyways 
lmao
There's no such thing as a "meta" blitz, you fill in whatever works best with your other stuff. All can work well.
If you're relying on your Blitz for most of your damage then you suck, not the game.
fuckin finally
this reads like a massive nerf to uncanny
did they buff burgatus/soulfire even harder against cara? I know the uncanny change probably means you cant use that to evade the ADM on them being kinda trash
Yea they buffed soulblaze and purg vs cara
is it really -30%? coz as there were 10+ crushers packs and they are still there on damnation/auric
Well based on the words they wrote Iβd say itβs the number they wrote
indeed
they mentioned it was an average but can be higher/lower based on some stuff
aka who tf knows
An average of engagements throughout the entire mission
it's like, we made some changes, but don't really know
meaning the total in a run is lower but you can still get crushers conga lines
So I have to shoot guns and swing a sword the games premiere spell caster/witch class. Seems right
It's on average among multiple difficulties
This is why more ppl are on far far west
k well play whatever slop that is and go away
after patch does it have any sense to use these with inferno staff?
No but yes but no
These still will only matter for carapace
Just bring Obscurus Deimos Dueling Sword
Knoife
Fgs
A better game.
Should I still use these or swap to brittleness
I don't really play with inferno, voidblast is my choice, just curious
Soulblaze Adms are pretty high across the board
So if you pick Pots/PenFlam it's pretty much just for carapace
But then you sacrifice Nexus Or Blaze Away or some other talent
So no meta psyker builds I can do that donβt require me spamming a gun?
Inferno and trauma is still meta, WDYM?
I don't get it, why is there something negative about gun psyker?
you spam staff the same way to kill things
you even spam melee to deplete enemies hp
Cuz Iβm a psyker not a vet. I would choose vet if I want to see a gun on my screen 24/7
What do those do again
There isnt. Some people get pissy about ammo but that's about it.
and as a psyker I don't want to see staff 24/7 on my screen
Well you picked a Psyker so go play zealot or veteran
while gameplay is similar to vet, psyker has its own specialties with gun
funny how people still think vet is the gun class
when psyker can do more with it
but to each their own
my vet is full melee by the way 
tis where vet strives, being a hybrid with leaning towards melee
they get their biggest damage buffs from melee
being ~45% global damage iirc
melee psyker can be better version of zealot
nah, zealot is good in its own way
yeah
#zuffbealot
delete every class except ogryn and roll every tree to them
I want stealth ogryn
let me dual wield an ogryn thammer in right hand and idk scum rockets in left hand
with ogryn shriek that instantly explodes everyone's eardrums
ogryn infiltrate
five rocket launchers twisted with electrical tape together in one terrifying weapon
on a stick



Ogryn like big boom.
Ogryn like stick.
Is good weapon!
changes went live?
arbideez
Joe Mama
ogryn is heavy stealth (no survivors = no one saw you)
Wait they didn't touch arby this patch.
perhaps
Arby is perfect and needs no nerf.
i like the dev blog and the declared intent
did u make the lessDOT mod on nexus
the patch at least smacks down some of the dumbest stuff like uncanny
Nein.
i like how it took them this long to realize the chaos warrior equivalent should behave a little more like chaos warriors
My best bet is that bulwarks will get more attacks in which they move the shield out of the way
Instead of just sweep bash swee bash sweep bash sweep bash
Reading chinese players review bombing this game for uncanny nerf is something
They always a meta slave
I love the loud deflection to 'Chinese players', like 'Western players' haven't been whiny cunts all on their own for decades now
if only they were as loud as chaos warriors too
theyre just nurgle stealth zealots now
Maybe even hope against hope that theyβll lose the power to crawl up one anotherβs ass
Nothing I love more than six bulwarks inside one another like some kind of 40k lemon party
It puts the lotion on the carapace or it gets the hose again
can someone teach me how to melee psyker with greatsword
im using the base meleeker from the build guide
but idk how to actually play it. do I dump my assail into gaze and spam the alt fire on greatsword?
if running warp unbound you can drop a fully powered assail barrage at the end of sg
omg its Kat
what is mm?
malefic momentum
up to 25% extra damage
all of melee psyker is clicking heads and maintaining buffs
oh interesting. so I need to swap between warp attacks and my laspistol/normal greatsword attacks?
every 10ish seconds?
give or take
the easier way is to just weave it into your melee combos
and/or throw in occasional fgs specials with sufficient charge
the most fun part of it is that their shields block attacks from any direction while they perform this blob movement
lore accurate ogryn testudo
what are the actually important buffs to track? malefic, SG....
I use custom buffs because theres way too fucking many and I dont need to know about them
and high peril buffs: warp rider and warp-splitting
MM you will just develop a feel for
as for the peril buffs - that's mostly going to come down to keeping your peril up inbetween scrier's activations
yea peril buffs are on your screen so that's easy to track (its the big number that makes you explode)
so am I supposed to keep my peril up at all times like im playing unchained
i play it without assail so i have gotten into the habit of just throwing out smaller fgs specials for peril
(and mm)
yeah pretty much
except you don't explode from getting hti
hit*
it's like playing unchained except you need to blend more with your spells
ok I think I kind of get it now? I enter scriers and dont cast much warp until I hit 30 stacks, then dump my fully charged greatsword and assail?
@thorn cedar funny game
yes
ainz no
our brutes werent awful but they were awfully lost a lot
psychoanalyze me
one of them was kinda bad. but it was the cute kind of bad
ye
it was fun
getting barden to take that medicae at the mid event did feel like trying to give your dog medicine without any peanut butter
No you cast extra when you hit 100% peril and enter warp unbound, not based on your scriers stacks
oh? but im not letting myself hit 100% until I have 30 stacks
is that incorrect
in the last couple games ive been waiting until 30 stacks then I dump a fully charged greatsword + assail + a few more uncharged greatswords
Sure, but you dont start using your "free" peril bc youve hit 30 stacks, you do it bc you've hit 100%
that makes sense, I just had the two tied together so 100% hasnt been happening until 30 unless I messed up
I find FGS specials are also great for just general use stagger, friend off in the distance with a dog on them, FGS special knocks it off, if I have kinetic flayer too I might get an additional kill via the headpop but even if it doesn't die it's at least off your buddy, same with trappers or flamers, a moment of staggering them and preventing them firing can make the difference.
It goes thru walls too
You can just cruch bro through a pillar
not to mention when you have full bars and is just able to turn the densest horde into a multitude of standing pants
Satorus
raw fgs special into nogginshank for ragers is nice too
bots are so funny
they try to revive the other bots before me
like, prioritize my life, I'm the one that matters
And ceilings, floors!
This makes my anxiety rise faster than my psyker's peril
Genuinely I hate this game
got my favorite
Infectious Headache
with all those shock things
then the game decides to bug me into a permanent inivisble state
I'll miss you π₯ πͺ¦
on electro staff + scriers, do you bother with anything soublaze-related?
You can sometimes get perilous combustion snowballs on the highest difficulties but you wonβt miss much by skipping it
Do you still use uncanny strike on force sword? What is the blessing combo do you prefer so far?
on melee psyker, i dont use uncanny force sword
obscurus mark with slaughterer, superiority or executor
your horde clear is.... pretty lousy with it
Hello intelligent residents of the Psyker chat
Haven't played in quite a while how's this new balance patch?
Does superiority work if you swap to it after firing assail/voidstrike/soulblaze
Better for coordinated play, worse for 'solos'. Bleed got extra fucked by it since no slight buff to compensate. Like, if you are stuck with 3 bots, brittle is FAR worse than rending.
Mind you, this is personal opinions from playing public games on my server. At times, there's simply no other player to play with.
it still applies even if you have another item out
although the kills need to be with the weapon
or while it is out
Not for assail and voidstrike hits im pretty sure
Dots yes
Lmfao, just saw the patch notes.
Just what psyker needed, more damage on the inferno staff

Tell me the Devs donβt play their own game without saying they donβt play their own game

As an inferno staff user, I welcome the changes, considering I swapped out dueling blade for forcesword to do warp knockbacks on crushers.
as someone who doesn't use uncanny or inferno, i say nothing has changed for me
Me neither

I miss being speedy and having more dodge maneuverability with the dueling blade but at the end, I'd rather be able to avoid crushers than risk getting my face scrunched.
Inferno is my least fave staff so idgaf
I used to be inferno's strongest warrior when people said it was unviable in damnation 
Wait what? You retain your superiority stacks when you switch but the buff is only active with your melee equipped
yeah youre right
i was too tired to realize i explained it wrong or misleadingly
Vile misinformation spreader...
who let the nurgle heretic into the psyker room?!? /sarcasm
Rip rending blast staff
(it's not dead)
Everyone is applying brittle now
(not really)
So we don't need you anymore
(me when I lie)
Yes
But
Uncanny and Thunderous are generic brittle
So they cap at 40%
Pen flames is brittleness but it stacks on top of generic
So you can add another 20% to that 40%
Making it 60% brittle
Then you have the Hsword special brittleness
Which is 10%
It can stack on top of generic brittle
So I'll assume it can result in 70% brittleness under all those conditions
If u reach 100% brittle on a target they crumble like a saltine
there is vet brittleness too
Pretty sure it got reworked into the current Exploit Weakness
Onslaught still exists?
there was like this talent that give brittleness on melee crit
There were two, one for rapid fire attacks and another with a melee focus.
it was only like what, 10% brittleness each crit
Yup
Generic Brittle
So brittle is worse with multiple sources, check.
New meta: flame randoms for stacking brittle 
Debuff indicator for top tier shaming
can arbites add more with special shotgun ammo?
it gives 25% brittleness if I'm not wrong
If it's generic Brittle it'll cap at 40%
but it adds for example to crusher's brittleness,, it doesn't work like that with brittleness of other classes?
what about onslaught
ah nvm
i did not look up

Oh so it's not generic brittle?
interesting
unstable power too?
ex shotgun + penflame are unique brittleness and can stack
I like the onslaught
so in theory there could be in certain ocasions 95% brittleness?
with penflame and exterminator and hsword
science!
so with a whole team working together
you can almost match old uncanny strike on a single target
in extremely niche circumstances
yeah no it still dogshit
Requiring everyone to focus... GL in pubs.
you dont really have to focus
i mean it helps
but youre slapping brittleness on almost anything you touch, odds are youll be saturating the same frontline targets
and none of this matters outside of crushers really
which got super nuked population wise in havocs
kinda too hard tbh
Is more, matching old uncanny in terms of power.
uncanny stroke
New psyker blitz
Thx
Last thing I needed was psyker going "check your balls"
Never was
Was known for a long time now
Also lasts 8s

This says a lot about how I engage with Arbites

They're mid anyways
I also don't use their guns

Dog is their best ranged weapon

Nah
Dog stands for D & D stands for Dogshit

UNLESS ranged keystone is used & you just forget you have a dog