psyker-class

[deft stump]

Oh, I know. Why air quotes.

[jovial juniper]

Hold on I'm running my info through my mind

Yeah it should still be highest non infinite

Followed by Voidstrike M2 at

12?

[deft stump]

Assuming the cleavage buff?

[deft stump]

Not sure, pretty sure nobody checked and the old old outdated guide said maybe 12 since inconsistent even with fully charged shots.

[potent echo]

Wait plasma got changed back to 18 from 100 cleave?

[jovial juniper]

Nope

M1 went from 50 to 18

M2 still 105

[potent echo]

I assume crushers/bosses still got the uncleavable tag

[hallow vector]

take 50 ranged cleave perk obv

[earnest furnace]

Wasnt that plasma Gun nerf like a good while back?

[wind spruce]

Doesnt mean everyone whos used a weapon in the past is up to date on all changes

[wraith sphinx]

Yup a lot of people don't play the game for an extended amt of time before coming back

[wind spruce]

Yeah i didnt play for most of last year and missed so many changes

[potent echo]

Playing far far west and I (actually) miss instantly losing to nets and dogs

[wind spruce]

Months later i still wasnt up to date on some psyker changes bc i was only playing scum

[wraith sphinx]

If the next major update doesn't have anything interesting it's gonna be my turn to miss out on stuff

I've had enough

[wind spruce]

I want more talent changes

They could keep me hooked forever doing relatively minor class reworks like the last scum one

[wraith sphinx]

I just wish for new maps and missions (not new gamemodes), new enemies and a new weapon here and there

DLC classes have been overall fine so far too, they should keep that up

[wind spruce]

New maps is nice but arent a big priority for me. How im playing on the maps is, so i concur on new enemies and weapons

And ofc new/updated talents, omnomnom

Theorycrafting/testing > all

[wraith sphinx]

Another thing I would love to see is some of these recent event modifiers being added to maelstrom/aurics, it's getting a little stale to just have histg/hunting grounds 80% of the time

[kind jay]

gimme every single modifier in one go

call it High Intensity Fuck You

and change indomitable to work with everything not just ragers and maulers

[novel yoke]

nah, gimme an immortal snail modifier

one unkillable beast of nurgle follows you the entire round + regular enemies

and just like the immortal snail post, if it hits you, you're dead

[kind jay]

no regular enemies only trappers

[novel yoke]

I think ima start using empyric resolve + inner tranquility on everything

this is goated for maintaining peril with warp ghost, went from having to quell every 3 shots to like every 10

argh at the same time its like

do I want warp rider's damage/one with the warp tdr or do I want to generate toughness with quietude

[kind jay]

i like quietude but don't use any tdr outside of what sg gives

forces me to think twice about positioning

[icy breach]

Quietude is a lil bonus but should not be considered main toughness regain method

[kind jay]

....whoops

[deft stump]

And then you have the ppl who think just it is enough.

[icy breach]

no soulstealer on a warp-based build

HyperPEPEGA

[kind jay]

(me)

[deft stump]

I know some might be overkill, but still.

[icy breach]

In case of psyker & its lack of DR/TDR & max toughness; never

[deft stump]

That's taking every node top and middle.

[icy breach]

Nah not like that bby

Many factors

[deft stump]

No, the joke is, that is just too much.

But I have seen it in inspecting ppl on the Mourningstar...

[kind jay]

full squish and extra aggressive

call an ambulance but not for me

but sometimes for me ouchie

[novel yoke]

fair enough

[wind spruce]

@kind jay you crazy

Quietude the goat

[kind jay]

i probably am a lil psychotic

[wind spruce]

Idk what happened with that tag

[icy breach]

Its great
Just not the main source of toughness generation

[wind spruce]

Psyker shi

[wind spruce]

On gunker/meleeker it possibly is

[kind jay]

from the context of auric it pretty much is enough

[icy breach]

Its mostly a piece that combined with the rest gives great results; so no
Meleeker relies on expenditure & mettle, gunker on mettle & passive regens

They’re almost identical

[wind spruce]

Definitely a combined effect but mettle is not worth the mention

[icy breach]

Just with gunker expenditure is less utilized cause… you know… you shoot more

[wind spruce]

Its 2.5% per second

Scriers also gives 2.5%

DD kills give 10% p/s

Warp expenditure 5% p/s

Shit even souldrinker gives more than mettle

[icy breach]

And 2,5% on any melee hit

[icy breach]

Ye that too cause perilous synergy

[wind spruce]

Yeah id say expenditure is the only singular talent that rivals quietude on right side builds

[icy breach]

No; mettle is on ANY crit & you crit like crazy on gunker cause you most likely use las pistol/recon/inf auto
So you have almost always 2.5% regen on top of others + movement spd which you need for such a playstyle

[wind spruce]

It has high uptime but its stil only 2.5% per second

Its borderline irrelevant

Ok im being hyperbolic im just saying its a small part of the toughness engine

[icy breach]

Then scriers one would be too
The point is; Combined they perform great and since gunker crits the most you have it active more

[icy breach]

To move the big cog you need smaller ones; do not forget that

[wind spruce]

The scriers one is too

[icy breach]

[wind spruce]

Whatever nerd

[icy breach]

☝️ 🤓

[wind spruce]

Six still needs to update his mod so we can get an accurate reading of exactly how much peril is being genned per game

So quietude can finally show of its... mettle

[icy breach]

Is it really that relevant? IMO whats relevant is how the build operates in critical moments not ‚overall’; overall stats will show great numbers but in tough situations it might fall off or exaust too quickly ect.

Thats why ‚statistical numbers’ should be taken with a bag of salt

Practical experience is more valuable than hard numbers

[wind spruce]

I love playing with bcob and bm even if its not optimal bc you can easily weave assail while scriers is active and have braingasms about all the toughness quietude is generating

[icy breach]

Atleast in this game

[wind spruce]

Yeah totally agree, you have to really work at analysing what a statistic actually means

@icy breach but also screw your nuance, can mettle do THIS

https://outplayed.tv/warhammer-40k-darktide/Vly822

[icy breach]

I don’t underlv my weapons for gimmics like these; i rather be able to cast more

Still good

[wind spruce]

Nerd shit 🤓

I just watched my own clip like 20x in a row and my conclusion is fuck im cool

(Also nerd shit 🤓)

[novel yoke]

https://tenor.com/view/always-sunny-frank-oh-my-god-i-get-it-gif-22328165

I finally get the EK staff... I just needed a shit ton of anti peril generation...

[kind jay]

or sg

[novel yoke]

I mean I took both

before it really sucked to be constantly quelling every few shots because 3-4 shots was enough to drag it to 80-90% peril

now I can actually do burst damage

No more a a purg staff user with no skill, I have found me a wonderful staff

[kind jay]

with warp unbound you can just spam m1 until 100 + 11.5seconds after

[novel yoke]

it lasts that long? damn

I assumed it was like, 6 or 7 seconds

[kind jay]

its 1.5sec by default, +10 sec if you take the last node

so you just sit at 100 forever and as long as you have enough cooldown stuff and kill a few specials/elites you can effectively cycle sg forever

[novel yoke]

damn

thats crazy but I'd probably mess it up and blow myself up

quick question. does the secondary attack of the EK staff count as a weakspot hit?

no, right?

[kind jay]

no

if you're on pc theres a mod to keep track of the warp unbound timer

[deft stump]

No, honestly, if it did, it would help with the rmb power.

[novel yoke]

rip, I knew it probably didnt but I hoped so to make use of the finesse damage from precognition

[jovial juniper]

You still can

Just crit

[novel yoke]

you mean with the primary attack, right?

[jovial juniper]

No no

Finesse is also CRIT damage

So even if you can't hit weakspots

You can still benefit from it by crits

[novel yoke]

oh what the hell, I assumed finesse was weakspot only

[fluid pulsar]

Quick, which blessings should i got for Voidblast Force Staff?

[novel yoke]

I mean with a ton of crit from warp nexus and SG, that's like a 60% crit

[novel yoke]

I like using rending shockwave and warp flurry but that might not be the best

[fluid pulsar]

alright got it

[jovial juniper]

Consider it a pyrrhic victory

[deft stump]

Rending flurry or crit blaze.

[novel yoke]

I just checked the pinned build guide, ppl say either rending shockwave + warp flurry or blazing spirit + warp nexus based on what you want to do

[deft stump]

Only two combos. One is more support, the other is slightly better at starting fires to try to snowball.

[novel yoke]

I mean hey, its still better than reality anchor... and you gotta take one of them to get to warp unbound...

• works for melee too in case you're not fighting a monster at that moment

[deft stump]

Rending flurry is easier to work with if you know an inferno vent blaze psyker is on the team.

[wind spruce]

Its easier to work with either way

[deft stump]

Wouldn't you steal stacks with the latter?

[dusk timber]

Rending furry

[icy breach]

Even solo is better cause faster & more dmg & CC vs stuff that has to die fast
Blazing is oof cause blazing stacks only to 6

[wind spruce]

It really doesnt matter if you steal stacks

[rancid geyser]

But it kinda is. Agent Chaos has the video where they played with you and its all they needed. Souldrinker did shite in that run

When on SG and DD quietude legit is the only toughness gen you need on top

You only need like 4 sources, which is easy to get in most builds

No one ever just goes quietude regardless though, if anything you also usually have mettel and between the 2 you get SG, Wall and Shriek

Even when not going DD those are legit enough

[deft stump]

And that means you have more than JUST quietude. That's the point.

[rancid geyser]

I mean yall we're legit on my case about taking it over SS the other day too which now that I think about it was weird

[deft stump]

Also, Chaos, at his prime, can clutch and carry H40s. We usually let players on that level play whatever they want because the avg player usually can't pull the shit they can do.

[rancid geyser]

Was no clutch or carry in the clip and it nothing to do with skill

You just Gen thst much toughness between quietude ND mettel with SG and Dd

Chaos legit was just plinking the entire run which is funny

[deft stump]

Because, chances are, it's a game with Syllo who is also on that tier.

I wouldn't know who is the third considering it ranges, Could be a random, could be someone from here.

[rancid geyser]

In flame staff yeah, but I still found it weird — your 2 dispositions on quietude

That talent is actually like the best toughness Gen on that part of the tree

Like I'm almost sure you are forced to take mettel plus either of the two top right talents. So you pretty much always have enough gen

[deft stump]

It's okay as passive regen, but nothing too outstanding for an avg vent build. The best you get is when you vent, otherwise it's on the slow end. Is why it's more used with other toughness gen nodes.

And for some people, depending on the build, is the first one they drop if they really need a point.

[rancid geyser]

Yeah but I don't think I ever see someone take more than 3-4 gen nodes and like no one takes less than 3

[deft stump]

That's because you never see Mourningstar builds... There are horrors only known to Tzeentch.

[rancid geyser]

The only truely slow toughness Gen is from SG and souldrinker

SD 3% sec of 5 seconds is legit abysmal

The 5% crit legit isn't enough to carry that talent for me either

[deft stump]

To be fair, everyone says Souldrinker needs a buff.

[rancid geyser]

Fair

I forget you can scope ppl out

[deft stump]

You should try when bored. Most are generic or sus but close to generic... Some....

You know that Vet build where you skill everything up top?

Yeah, stuff like that.

[rancid geyser]

I think in terms of getting toughness gen though psyker is the hardest to f up on

[rancid geyser]

Tf?

Like Trophy hunter and all the beginning talents?

Do they at least get to a keystone? Not that vet actually has to take one

[deft stump]

THe psyker build looked something like this.

[modern narwhal]

which primary should i use on the Basic Meta Bubble Build v2 from the doc?

[rancid geyser]

Holy helmet

Guys I will protect you type build

Still dies because nothing else does

[deft stump]

THey get an ult, yes, but no keystone. I was serious when I said they put in points into every node.

[rancid geyser]

See this is too much "Survivability" where you don't actually love because the impending danger will get to you eventually

[deft stump]

I mean, I won't even give that sort of build to people. Just one of the traumatising builds I saw while bored.

And yes, it does end at dome.

I'm not even sure how you would use it or do with it.

[rancid geyser]

See I can see why people like the part of the tree under the auras

Wouldn't fault a build that took all or a majority of the talents there IF they still had the points to go lower for a keystone.

Not having the damage the keystone provide is very rough

But dude took the entire top row

Holy hell

[deft stump]

All I know was, guy is totally using burny stick.

So I suspect is why it doesn't matter.

[rancid geyser]

Yikes

Yeah I guess inferno could technically carry this

[deft stump]

But then why the melee nodes, goddess knows.

[rancid geyser]

Faster uncanny stacks

[deft stump]

Nope.

Talking about Warp Expenditure.

[rancid geyser]

I'm giving them the benefit of a doubt

I'm trying to make them not look bad

[deft stump]

They didn't take atk spd.

[rancid geyser]

Oof

[jovial juniper]

With inferno as your secondary you'll want a single target primary, bonus points if it has Uncanny
Deimos
Obscurus
Dueling Sword
Knife
In no particular order

[deft stump]

Why I'm saying... Most builds follow the 3-4 Toughness gen... And then you get THAT and you question how and why.

[rancid geyser]

This is that defense > damage mentality and I will now use it as a meme

[deft stump]

Also, am sad. UK Kinder Bueno isn't as good as Italy Kinder Bueno.

[rancid geyser]

They actually do have every node that matters for inferno though right? I don't think you actually need IFR

But it's also bubble....

[icy breach]

Don’t; they either meme or are unaware or dogshit
Nothing else

[icy breach]

Wait how so? Is the recipe not standarized?

[rancid geyser]

Most recipies for foods aren't standardaized

[deft stump]

Tastes different. Also melts different.

[rancid geyser]

Chocolates products especially

[deft stump]

Like, the Italy one melts into a creamy thing, the UK one melts into a liquid.

[rancid geyser]

I learned this when ordering foods outside of the country

[icy breach]

Ok Karien
How do You like it to melt?

[deft stump]

The US one... Is solid.

[rancid geyser]

Pretty sure we eat 3d printed foods over here atm

[deft stump]

Do not buy US Kinder bueno.

[icy breach]

OK NOW

[marble crater]

Need to be in the EU, if you want EU food

[deft stump]

Look. I have both side by side. THey ran out of the Italy one in the value shop.

Kitty is sad.

[icy breach]

Haha
And they call europeans poor

[rancid geyser]

Don't laugh at this because it's actually kind of sad

There are clips of icecreams not being actual icecream

[icy breach]

[marble crater]

Maybe, but also funny

[rancid geyser]

Chocolates that don't fully melt because they are fake too

[deft stump]

Seal fat?

[deft stump]

I'm talking about the hazelnut cream inside.

[marble crater]

Yeah, because vomit doesn't melt

[icy breach]

You shall experience communism now; have fun (i typed ‚have gun’; fitting)

[deft stump]

Like, the UK one doesn't melt into a cream.

Mind you, I put them in the fridge because room temps here is like... too hot.

[rancid geyser]

Idk, but I've been saying shit tast different for years and that is why I stopped buying most things, and I checked somewhere of the products in the clips

[icy breach]

I dunno how to describe ours… i guess its creamy when it disolves in my mouth

[kind jay]

i like buenos

all of them

[rancid geyser]

Those chocolate cones were actually a turning point for me

[deft stump]

Well, it's less milk, more air actually.

[rancid geyser]

Trust nothing

[icy breach]

Toblerone?

[deft stump]

With Ice 'cream'.

[rancid geyser]

No the chocolate ice cream cones on the waffle cone base thar come in a box

[deft stump]

Is why some brands are now called, Ice confectionary.

[rancid geyser]

They are neither real chocolate nor real icecream

[icy breach]

Yes my cutie Ameritardo; eat da plastic!

[rancid geyser]

Only something that half melts and sits there

[icy breach]

[deft stump]

Not enough actual cream to be Ice cream.

[rancid geyser]

I haven't eaten one in over 10 years and when I checked it 2 months ago I was horrified

[deft stump]

Is foamed with air for 'bulk'.

[icy breach]

Not a fan of chocolate ice cream

[deft stump]

Oh, those chocolates might be chocolates... Fucked up mistakes that won't melt because of a fuckup.

They are used in VERY VERY VERY cheap chocolates from Malaysia.

[icy breach]

MAN
Feelsgudman to not have dogshit products here in Poland then
Yet another W for the Poles

[rancid geyser]

Every company in the US making foods only make those foods like 20% of the way now I'm sure. The rest is 3d printed — can't tell me otherwise

[kind jay]

send me all your garbo chocolate

https://tenor.com/view/food-coma-food-eat-starving-kirby-gif-4698182

[rancid geyser]

I'm not sure iver ever heard of chocolate that doesn't melt before then

[icy breach]

Be careful what you wish for…

[deft stump]

Well, the milk there is pretty good. They sometimes show up in the valueshop, lul.

[icy breach]

I like milk too

[deft stump]

When I said they fucked up, they did. You can look it up.

[kind jay]

my bar is so low its a tripping hazard in hell

[deft stump]

And then you get Chocolate coins made in Malaysia... That doesn't melt at 37 deg cel.

[rancid geyser]

Durian.... eeeew

Palm oils better be a lie too btw

[kind jay]

the little pirate coins?

man i want some

[deft stump]

Durian Chocolate? THe freeze dried durians coated? Those are dogshit chocolate on Thai style durians.

Bleah.

[deft stump]

To look at, yes. TO eat, no. They won't even melt in your mouth.

[kind jay]

im ok if chocolate doesnt melt

if i like the taste ill eat it anyways

[deft stump]

And when your saliva breaks them down, they become some kinda sweet oily gunk slime.

Only those that never had at least UK Kit Kats would think them edible.

Because even the India local Kit Kat melts a tiny bit, but tastes awful.

[kind jay]

you guys are right tho chocolate in the US has become wonky over the years

i like argentinian chocolate the most

[deft stump]

Is why I'm asking someone I know if he plans to send a custom Mini over, he should pack a pack of US chocolates so I can compare them to Malaysian chocolate.

As in, which is worse.

[kind jay]

let us know when you find out

food science

[deft stump]

If I do... Or maybe I should just see if there's US imports in like the fancy supermarts, if they aren't horrifically overpriced.

Btw, 3x peeps costs like $7 here.

So...

Diabeetus coated diabeetus chicks.

[deft stump]

Is cos made in USA.

I mean 3 in those small boxes.

[rancid geyser]

You should care about what enters your body 🙁

[deft stump]

Box of 3.

[kind jay]

i should

[fresh panther]

Unless you're a child you can eat roughly one peep before they're insufferably sweet

[deft stump]

Well, I finished a box that was gifted to me in one go... I was like 12-13 then?

[kind jay]

yeah peeps are very heavy on their flavor

[fresh panther]

I could probably eat that many at that age too for sure

[deft stump]

DIABEETUS.

[rancid geyser]

I have never been able to eat more than 2

[deft stump]

That's the flavour.

[rancid geyser]

Had a sugar aversion as a child and now I don't trust most sugar in America

So I'm just I'm a bad place

[fresh panther]

At my age eating even one feels wrong haha

[deft stump]

COs you don't have sugar.

[rancid geyser]

Only eat goods from out of country

[fresh panther]

Half way through I am contemplating my life choices

[deft stump]

You have, "high-fructose corn syrup".

[rancid geyser]

Fair

But I was also raised in jamaica

So I could tell the diff

Some things did use actual sugar

[deft stump]

Is more a joke, but I heard is true.

[rancid geyser]

It is very true

[deft stump]

Govt subsidising Corn stuff so... More corn than actual sugar.

You gotta go to Mexico to get actual cane sugar.

[fresh panther]

They probably use cane sugar and not beet sugar which is the usual white sugar in USA

[rancid geyser]

Or back to my home country

[rancid geyser]

We use both in Jamaica

But like 60-40

No corn syrup as far as I'm aware

[fresh panther]

Good fuck corn syrup lol

[deft stump]

Isn't that somewhere in the Caribbeans?

[fresh panther]

Shit belongs in pecan pie and nowhere else

[rancid geyser]

Yeah

[deft stump]

Beet sugar is still better than HFCS.

[rancid geyser]

Also tried Mexican coca cola for the 1st time last year and the stuff is completely different

US products are so bad

[fresh panther]

It's way better for sure

[deft stump]

Cos legit sugar.

[rancid geyser]

I could probably drink like 5 back to back

Hard to even finish one from the US

[deft stump]

Still unhealthy... but like, once in awhile, isn't too bad.

[fresh panther]

Every product we sell elsewhere or company that moves to open locations elsewhere has to come up with something new and not as shitty because other cultures won't accept the poor food quality that's pushed in the US

Chocolate, drinks, fast food, there's no exceptions

[deft stump]

Please don't. That's too much Sugar. Each bottle is like 7 spoons or something.

[rancid geyser]

Even in China they do things diff. When I visited their pop tarts actually tasted good

They also had their own premium flavors

[fresh panther]

Yeah the Kit Kat variety from Japan would be insane here but we get the plain OG ones and nothing else

[deft stump]

Because the funniest thing about China... Is their fuck ups is why quality went up. the scandals actually pushed them to improve.

[fresh panther]

Candy makers in America feeling adventurous and putting out a white chocolate version of their chocolate candy (which tastes worse and saves them money)

[deft stump]

They even seal food better because some asshole tampered with a batch.

[rancid geyser]

Yo fr. What is white chocolate?

Never trusted it

I don't think chocolate should ever be that color because I've never been able to make it

[deft stump]

Good ones? Cocoa butter.

Cheap ones is milk powder.

[kind jay]

white chocolate is pretty good

[fresh panther]

Yeah cocoa naturally has cocoa solids and butter, white chocolate just has the solids removed. Solids make it into cocoa powder or darker chocolate

[rancid geyser]

Tbf the only chocolate I actively eat is dark chocolate, and it always is accompanied by fruit

[deft stump]

That is true only for the higher quality one... Lower ones is a mix of it and milk... Very low quality ones are a lie and is 99% milk if not other sus stuff.

[rancid geyser]

Dark chocolate with cherries and raspberries is just so good

[kind jay]

im ok with dark choclate but usually if i want chocolate its cause i want something sweet, so milk chocolate it is

crunch bar probably my go to

or anything with caramel in it

[rancid geyser]

only US chocolate candy that ive liked were snickers

havent had one in almost 7 years

[fresh panther]

Crunch bars in the US have a fruity flavor because it's so far from actual chocolate

[deft stump]

So, less than 5% cocoa?

[rancid geyser]

i mean chocolate is derived frm a fruit

a stink one too

[fresh panther]

True but it doesn't have the generic "fruity" flavor that many other fruits seem adjacent to

Also it's a bean

[rancid geyser]

maybe im not privy to what that means

[fresh panther]

Probably tbh

[deft stump]

That's already a low bar considering that's about what's in junk 'chocolate'.

[thorn cedar]

So many American products that call themselves 'X' can't legally call themselves 'X' outside of America. Examples: Many American cheeses ('Cheese product' elsewhere), chocolate (Chocolate-like elsewhere), Miracle Whip ('Sandwich spread' elsewhere)

[deft stump]

I mean, anything Kraft. XD

[rancid geyser]

I hate that I'm actually okay with kraft

i do not know why

[deft stump]

I mean, it can taste good, it's just not exactly what it says it is.

[rancid geyser]

true

I know it's fake cheese

but it do be tasting good

I think it's because its similar to the cheese we makein jamaica

[deft stump]

And that's never been a problem as long as it's actually food.

[thorn cedar]

Like I do enjoy Miracle Whip on SOME things (very few things)

I use American cheese slices for hotdogs and burgers cause it just makes sense

But I also disapprove of either of those products labelling themselves as 'mayonaisse' or 'cheese' respectively because they really kinda aren't.

[rancid geyser]

that and other cheeses just dont taste right on those

as much as im not a fan of burgers already

[thorn cedar]

Miracle Whip especially is egregious because it doesn't even fucken have eggs

[deft stump]

Depends.

[thorn cedar]

It is factually NOT mayonaisse

[fresh panther]

Supposedly it's a minimum of 25% cocoa solids but that seems high, that might be relative to the chocolate component and not considering added sugar or the crisp rice bits

Milk chocolate is typically 30-40% cocoa solids

[thorn cedar]

Generously these definitions are regional.

[deft stump]

Oh, I know. I have a pack of 'milk chocolates' with 8% cocoa here.

Ah, they call it Milk cocoa in big.

[fresh panther]

Legal requirement to claim it's milk chocolate in the US is 10%

[deft stump]

But milk chocolates in tiny fonts in the back.

[fresh panther]

Hershey's is 11%

[deft stump]

I only read the back of packages.

Honestly was only curious about the quality of the freeze dried fruits dipped in cheap chocs.

[thorn cedar]

This is less than half of what the majority of the rest of the world considers chocolate.

Guess where Hershey's is based

[deft stump]

Even China, btw.

[thorn cedar]

It's almost comically transparent how captured regulations are in America.

[deft stump]

And American propaganda always says China stuff is worse.

[thorn cedar]

You can still get shitty chocolate in China, it just won't label itself as chocolate.

[deft stump]

Yes, but we are talking about things labelled as Chocolate.

[fresh panther]

Pennsylvania

[rancid geyser]

there should be no differing regulations on what amount classifies it as chocolate

that stupidity is something i will never understand

[thorn cedar]

Because everything is politics.

(Unironically)

[deft stump]

And those things actually taste like decent chocolate.

Well, at the price point and you know, the amount of solids and such.

[fresh panther]

I think a large part of this for food at least comes from inspection and safety standards, we're warned about lead content for things manufactured in countries with more lax rules for that

[deft stump]

Ah. Usually it's better than what you think for export stuff. Mostly to prevent issues from what I heard.

[fresh panther]

Well that's good lol

[deft stump]

But also, doing stupid shit internally can also get you sued easily.

So, For most parts, it's just propaganda.

[fresh panther]

Probably hard to break the mindset of "china makes cheap stuff for low quality" after decades of people here only looking to China for that niche and elsewhere for nicer things, a self fulfilling system

[deft stump]

There's the usual shitty companies everywhere, but they aren't the majority.

[fresh panther]

Like if you want nice chocolate you're not buying Asian or American chocolate, you're buying European chocolate

[deft stump]

Unless the Asian is Japan.

[fresh panther]

Japan doesn't really export much chocolate here, it's almost all fruity gummy snacks that make it here

[rancid geyser]

mexican chocolates unless you count those as american too. They are good though

[deft stump]

I will die on the Hill that Japanese chocolate is equal or better.

[fresh panther]

I generally dislike all imported Asian prepackaged sweets because I don't like fruity candies and dislike gummy textures

[deft stump]

Thing about China is, you get what you paid for.

[fresh panther]

Nice I gotta try some of that

[rancid geyser]

I have not had a single japanese treat that i didnt think was amazing, same with italian goods

[deft stump]

You can get absolute trash to even better than original.

[fresh panther]

I like some of the sweet breads and stuff I've tried but that's about it

[deft stump]

Funny thing is, the better than original is still cheaper than the original.

[rancid geyser]

melon bread is good yeah

[fresh panther]

Maybe before tariffs lol

[rancid geyser]

Actual Ramune is good too

[deft stump]

I forgot American Tarrifs.

[fresh panther]

Yes these are amazing, I'm planning on learning to make them because they're hard to find here

[rancid geyser]

Japanese Whiskey is all good

even the really light ones

[deft stump]

SG has no tarrifs with China. Everything trades easily between both.

[fresh panther]

Gotta keep our vomit flavored chocolate relevant somehow haha

[deft stump]

Is how we can get decent stuff for very little from China.

Well, in comparison.

Since there's no TAXES. So just price of product and delivery.

[deft stump]

But couldn't you just go to Mexico? I heard everything food is somehow better there... or north to Canada?

Unless America tarrifs those two places as well.

[white sky]

They are+crossing the border here is harder

[thorn cedar]

yes

[mental rock]

They already put tarrifs on Canada. Which were deemed unconstitutional btw

[deft stump]

WHAT THE EVERLOVING FUCK?

[thorn cedar]

Our entire policy with America right now (in Canada) is basically 'left on read'

There's no point communicating or negotiating anything because it's a dickless government run by a sycophantic shithead who bends to the slightest whim

[deft stump]

Yeah... I now understand why they say America is fourth world country now. Yep.

[thorn cedar]

What's ridiculous isn't that Trump/America is doing these things.

It's that he's doing these things and there is absolutely no mechanism in place preventing its continuation.

[white sky]

There are mechanisms fwiw

[thorn cedar]

When your son burns down your neighbour's house, that's a fucking tragedy. When your solution is shrugging and leaving him to continue to play with matches, you're an embarrasment.

[white sky]

They just don't get used

[thorn cedar]

Yeah, so there aren't.

[hoary vapor]

hold on WHAT

[white sky]

Not as long as there's a majority Republican house and Senate, no lol

[frail oar]

Whoa what's going in here

[hoary vapor]

PSYKERS FOR AMERICA 🇺🇸

[thorn cedar]

If your system for stable governance is a bunch of pinky promises that can be overruled by a simple majority, then you don't have stable governance.

[white sky]

Look, I agree with you

[thorn cedar]

And I get what you're saying also.

[white sky]

Hypothetically it's not even that it's a majority

It's that it's a trump paid for majority

Most Republicans in Senate/House seats were campaigned for by Trump

So they're loyal off keeping the seat

[thorn cedar]

"Isn't there something that can be done to stop your son from burning down houses?"
"I should teach him morality, or take away his matches."
"And you will?"
"lol no"

[white sky]

Basically yes

[hoary vapor]

is that convo like

allowed

[white sky]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

I talk about politics in lore chat on the reg so

[thorn cedar]

Until we start dropping slurs it's kinda ok but yeah eventually mods will dislike it

[deft stump]

Usually if everyone behaves like adults, yes.

[white sky]

Anyway

Trump bad

[thorn cedar]

AW FUCK

[white sky]

Economy fucked

[thorn cedar]

i made coffee and i jus

LEFT IT IN THE KITCHEn

AN HOGUR AGOOOO

[deft stump]

RIP Coffee.

[hoary vapor]

no slurs ??

[thorn cedar]

my ass got distracted doing laundry

and then i kept doing other shit

well at least i cleaned my room

[deft stump]

Well, it has went to coffee heaven, you now get stale drink.

[thorn cedar]

ima just make another

i have 189 packs of instant coffee

actual number

i collected a free pack every week i was at starbucks

not including weeks where i gave one away

anyway its very funny for us in canada because our utterly dickless opposition party basically retorts whenever possible that he would TOTALLY negotiate a good deal with trump if he was prime minister

which lol

[kind jay]

ill drink your old coffee gimme

[thorn cedar]

like any of that matters becasue even binding deals get torn up in a single weekend

[thorn cedar]

could microwave it tbf

it was never particularly fresh, being instant coffee

[kind jay]

i am a trash disposal

or just trash

or maybe both

[deft stump]

I mean, I would drink it because I have a habit of forgetting and just drinking them cold and stale. Either way, it's to put myself to sleep so...

[thorn cedar]

oh wait did i see you in a game yesterday

[kind jay]

me?

[thorn cedar]

yea

i quickplayed into a consora's folly match

in the last like 2mins

im guessing you clutched

cause the other two said so

[kind jay]

oh that was you

yeah i did

[thorn cedar]

funny stuff

[kind jay]

i was glorious and i wont even lie about it

[thorn cedar]

i missed all the action

kinda wish it wouldnt quickplay into end events

like what the fuck man

i spent more time loading in and out than playing that round

oh well

[kind jay]

yeah servers get worse everyday

[thorn cedar]

that's just how quickplay do sometimes

i mean some peeps are happy to get the free mats

i uh

dont need any

[deft stump]

Isn't this normal when servers get worn down and nobody bothers?

[kind jay]

usually

[deft stump]

This sounds like some other game?

[thorn cedar]

its the one with the tank

[kind jay]

no mans land

[thorn cedar]

waxymiring gaydoor

[deft stump]

Ah.

[kind jay]

with sir reginald fartstopper or something

[thorn cedar]

yea that guy

[deft stump]

Just didn't know why is called that.

[kind jay]

its the location name in tertium

story stuff

[royal falcon]

why didn’t gregor just roll an invuln save after his tank got hit by the artillery? is he stupid?

[deft stump]

Oh. That's just forgotten.

[rancid geyser]

just had someone leave my game because they caught by a dog at a ledge we couldnt go back up to get them

i always try telling people that camping ledges is bad

[royal falcon]

couldn’t someone just shoot the dog

[rancid geyser]

no

[kind jay]

warp slice

?

[rancid geyser]

its at an angle where they were too far of an angle to even see it

[royal falcon]

do this with a grenade

[rancid geyser]

like the ledge by the elevator hold out

at the corner of the room before you even are by the medicae

legit unfortunate

[royal falcon]

wait what mission is this

[rancid geyser]

the one where you fight around the elevator while its coming to get you

[royal falcon]

ooohhh

[rancid geyser]

there is a ledge directly after the medicae, homie got caught at the door, didnt want to just come down with the rest of us

[thorn cedar]

there's lots of goofy ways to stun/push through walls

sometimes your team has none though

or they dont know

shriek/warp slice/most grenades/force push

[rancid geyser]

told all 3 of us we were ass for him being stuck in a bad spot

i love randoms

[thorn cedar]

remember when the fire shotgun shot through all geometry?

fun times

[rancid geyser]

i was on illisi so no helping him if i cant get a clear shot

[royal falcon]

reminds me of a time I jumped off of a ledge just for trapper to shoot me and PULL MY ASS BACK UP

[rancid geyser]

cant use fgs when im not using warpspeed

[thorn cedar]

oh yeah they like to do that

[rancid geyser]

they should honestly remove that but depending on what ledge it is you can still be rescued

[thorn cedar]

no its much better that it does that

trust me

otherwise each time you're netted midair you'd just plummet to your death 90% of the time

[royal falcon]

(it was not one of those ledges)

[deft stump]

Should make it land realistically on the ground at the edge.

[rancid geyser]

like half of them ppl can jump and interact if you are actually by the ledge

[thorn cedar]

but yes it does look absolutely wacky to see yourself get telekinetically pulled back to the last ledge

[thorn cedar]

the game cant necessarily predict where you'll go but it absolutely knows where you were last

[royal falcon]

the webgun has a little heretic psyker in it that telekinetically pulls whoever gets netted

[thorn cedar]

so safest design is to just put you back to the last point of solid ground you touched

this is the best answer in like 95% of cases

[deft stump]

THen they should make it so you can press X to unnet facing up.

Because it's extra annoying they are literally on the edge and you just can't.

[rancid geyser]

ngl not having a struggle mechanic was a real let down

[thorn cedar]

yea

well the unfun answer to that is

drop down faster

and dont split up from your team lol

[rancid geyser]

yup

ppl camp ledges too much imo

even in havoc i hate doing that

[thorn cedar]

i never blame my team if im alone at a drop down

[rancid geyser]

camping ledges

[thorn cedar]

its entirely on me

even if it feels real fucken bad

[rancid geyser]

see, but you might be more sound of mind

[royal falcon]

A struggle mechanic would make getting hit by a disabler as the last guy standing less of a mood killer

[rancid geyser]

randoms dont care

[thorn cedar]

happened to me recently when a doggo got me and i was lucky a mutie ran by

[rancid geyser]

if you arent playing for them, they are upset

[thorn cedar]

"play for yourself" mfers when playing for themselves gets them fucked

[rancid geyser]

fr

[deft stump]

This is just pubbing in general.

[rancid geyser]

really?

[thorn cedar]

ANYWAY I HAVE COFFEE NOW WHO WANTS TO GAAAAAME

[rancid geyser]

most of my pub games are not this bad

lmao

[deft stump]

Everyone wants to play carries and expect supports/tanks for them.

[thorn cedar]

I'M UNEMPLOYEd

I GOTTA STAY BUSY NOW

[royal falcon]

Varlet: "EEEYIKES! I got pounced by this hound as the last guy standing! Looks like I’ll fall to this Darktide™!"
The scab bomber coming in clutch:

[rancid geyser]

same, im waiting for my response to new job site

left last business, found someone who wanted me instantly

I HATE NY

[thorn cedar]

i got fukken fired

boss did what he could but

sadly his was not the final say

[deft stump]

You mean, sniper. 50 damage trade off was worth it.

[thorn cedar]

and he's also probably fired come the end of the month tbh

he fucked up, but shit rolls down hill and all

[rancid geyser]

for me its always the mutants that save me

[royal falcon]

Nah I don’t fw snipers, not after one did me like a clay pigeon after I got thrown by a mutie

[rancid geyser]

or dogs interrupting each other

[deft stump]

To be fair, muties are 50/50.

[rancid geyser]

muties giving their team lay ups is funny

[deft stump]

THey have thrown ppl into DH before.

[rancid geyser]

i got instagibbed yesterday like this

[rancid geyser]

shit is annoying XD

it's even mroe annoying because ppl feel like they never respect muties

it's always me killing them

[rancid geyser]

tossed into the air with 4 laser beams on me

[thorn cedar]

ngl

in my mental specialist triage

muties are pretty much bottom on the list

[rancid geyser]

most of my deaths are specifically due to them cause bad situations ngl

everything is fine until i get displaced

[thorn cedar]

Muties can kill you if they get you in a bad way

Trappers WILL kill you if they get you period

[rancid geyser]

fair

but trappers die faster

[thorn cedar]

Dogs are pretty much the same, it's very fucking lucky if something tosses them off you

[rancid geyser]

when there are 3 trappers you kill them in 2.5 seconds, 3 muties dont die that fast and no one else looks at them in pubs

[thorn cedar]

Trapper
Dog
Fire/Gas Fuckers
Snipers
Muties
thats my list

and idk maybe its cause i always have good anti-mutie weapons

deimos is..... lol

one H2 and they go HGGGHNHG

[deft stump]

Where bombers?

[thorn cedar]

Fire/Gas Fuckers

I lump them all together

[deft stump]

Or is that Flamers?

[thorn cedar]

They are all 'area deniers'

[deft stump]

Oh.

[rancid geyser]

imo Muties and bombers are at the absolute top of my list

[thorn cedar]

even if they arent presently affecting/damaging me they are causing me a looooot of problems when it comes to manouevering and choice

[rancid geyser]

then other specials are t2

ogryns t3

ragers and maulers t4

[thorn cedar]

nah traps n dogs 100% at the top

they get you its over

[rancid geyser]

maybe im not as affraid of them because they are bugged atm

[deft stump]

COs can't trust pub teammates.

[rancid geyser]

bunch of times i swear i should get hit i get shoved to the side

[thorn cedar]

well no just in general

you should always play like you're solo because that's just good practice

[rancid geyser]

this

EK makes dogs and trappers easy to deal with though

muties just dont stop

so they are higher for me lmao

[thorn cedar]

we've all been in that situation where all four of you are good, actually, but one guy gets netted at the exact time someone else eats a sniper shot into a mutie grab and then the two other players turn to react and get squashed by an overhead because of the distraction

its just like that

and you might have ate that net because "well my team is right here it'll be fine"

but it wasnt

[rancid geyser]

speaking of

i got hit by my 1st overhead in 4 months

actually was depressing because i stuttered when it happend

[thorn cedar]

overheads get me constantly ngl

i take zero damage or i explode

well, maybe not constantly, but ......

[rancid geyser]

i back dashed thinking that i was charging my m2

but my screen froze for half a second

irl screamed right after it happened

[dire wharf]

I stopped getting hit by the overhead when I stopped trying to dodge it by dodging backwards

[thorn cedar]

i built up a super bad habit when i started off

because zealot used to be damage immune during slides

[rancid geyser]

i think back dashing is fine the way i was doing it

my m2 just never went off

[calm sapphire]

Dodging while blocking saved me alot over overheads one hits

kinetic deflection

[kind jay]

most of my crusher deaths are because they nothing personnel'd me

[deft stump]

WTF?

[kind jay]

the rest is cause sometimes i play chicken with enemies

like ill just shoot at a mutant running at me and stand still

stare him right in his tiny little eyes

sometimes i win. sometimes i get powerbombed into fire

there was one time i did that in relay station, in front of the fan

if you get grabbed they dont stop at the fan. they go through it. and you die instantly

[rancid geyser]

western stand off style?

[kind jay]

yessss

[hoary vapor]

trappers r op men

[thorn cedar]

and vets used to take double damage (:

[deft stump]

Is this Fatshark being Fatshark?

[thorn cedar]

nah

different idea of how the game would play vs how people actually use your game's mechanics

[deft stump]

So one was abused and the other never touched?

[thorn cedar]

not really

you still got ranged immunity sliding

[deft stump]

I assume there were WAY less melee chaff then?

[rancid geyser]

back in the old days?

100%

I wanna say like 25% of what we have now

maybe 35%

but noticeably less

[thorn cedar]

whole rooms of shooters

not uncommon

[deft stump]

So that did not change then.

[thorn cedar]

no like

JUST shooters

not "a lot of shooters and some melee elites/enemies"

rooms of JUST shooters

[rancid geyser]

it did

if youve noticed me bitching about FS

their solution was to increase numbers across the board

and they just continued doing that

at one point it felt like they even got rid of the spawn limits too

[deft stump]

Yeah, I mean, those exists still when the director just wants to screw you over.

[novel yoke]

yknow there's one massive problem Ive noticed with psyker that no one talks about

The immense aura that this drip exudes simply means you can never run another cosmetic again!

its just too damn good that all the other outfits dont compare

[thorn cedar]

i know what you mean

[rancid geyser]

i like the psykana collar, the one with the blue orbs

havent seen it come around again

the one worn by lambda psykers i think

or one of the upper mid levels

[cosmic sigil]

yo dawg, let's put a coat on a coat on a coat

[thorn cedar]

yea i think it's way too much

but i do agree that you end up finding an outfit that's just the outfit for you

[radiant frigate]

guilty as charged

[thorn cedar]

for me its this one

and this one on zealot

[novel yoke]

REAL, you get it

[novel yoke]

oo those outfits look nice too

[crisp ether]

we legit have the same fit but i have the eyepatch lol

[thorn cedar]

ive got the eyepatch with the rogue trader coat

[hoary vapor]

There’s also the fact every free psyker cosmetic is horrible

[wet monolith]

Psyker mains
looking for a build for my psyker
still leveling him up tho but still don't understand how he works yet tho

[cosmic sigil]

what is your level?

[kind jay]

i made this one for expeditions. i ended up hating expeditions, but loved the fit so i just use this now

[thorn cedar]

not much point in a build cause they all presume you'll be able to fill out your tree

just vibe tbh

[deft stump]

Just use assail till 30 then think about builds.

[wet monolith]

Fair enough
Cuz right now I feel extremely extremely weak AF

[deft stump]

Assail should be tearing through malice though?

Even heresy, though might be harder now with the hp increase.

[radiant frigate]

assail soloclears malice

[thorn cedar]

i mean we do

not so much otherwise

still strong but we have also played the shit out of the game

base assail hits two whole targets at a time, it's not thaaaat amazing

[cosmic sigil]

yes but there is two targets every 20m

[deft stump]

Beekeeper. All the cleave.

[cosmic sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/dancing-bee-bee-dancing-vibing-gif-24578716

[thorn cedar]

but only like 13~ shards at most before you run out

[cosmic sigil]

you take shredder autopistol and assail

and the taxe

[thorn cedar]

does psyker still start with shredder

[cosmic sigil]

I think so

yeah know lvl11

so it's laspitol until then I think

[hoary vapor]

Is assail op or what

[cosmic sigil]

or vraks5

it´s good horde clear until late and then it become a tool to stagger ragers and shooters and thin them

[hoary vapor]

Somehow I’ve never tried it

[rancid geyser]

but doesn't warp splitting help a bit with this?

not that you even need it

[thorn cedar]

depends on his level

[rancid geyser]

spamming assasils was fun when i did it

[thorn cedar]

its why a build is kinda wasted

you'll look up like EP Smite and it'll tell you to take soulstealer

but you cant reach EP and soulstealer would therefore be totally shit and wasted

[rancid geyser]

are these leveling guides or general builds

i think im lost here

[rancid geyser]

takes 18 levels minimum to use smite + EP which is rough

soulstealers is nice for leveling (maybe not for smite)

[rancid geyser]

and waiting 20 levels before smite is really even decent kinda hurts imo

10 levels before it's basically not worth using imo, when assails are basically online at lvl 4

[wind spruce]

Basically worth you mean

?

[rancid geyser]

like it takes 20 levels to be good imo

and then 10 more levels before its not as good as a lot of other things you COULD be doing

but i am also biased

[wind spruce]

Oh

Yeah nah smite is very strong and worth using

Its just not fun for teammates

[rancid geyser]

yeah, my bias is showing

lmao

[crisp ether]

I forgot how fun Scrier's Trauma is

Now if only the servers would actually let me enjoy it fully :^)

[rancid geyser]

in terms of things that i think are not fine to fine: Inferno Staff Soulblaze builds < Smite Builds < Melee/Gun Psyker Builds < Other Staff Builds

no concern of how strong or weak they are

Smite is more annoying than anything, and then SB is SB

[wind spruce]

They should just remove inferno staff from the game

Dont even replace it

[kind jay]

but i want beam staff

or do i? would i use it over ek?

prob not nvm abort mission

[rancid geyser]

we still dont have siphon staff

which annoys me, but also not sure how they would implement it

[kind jay]

...

i just got sniped jumping to the valk at end of train

i hate this game

[hoary vapor]

why

[hoary vapor]

WHATS WRONG W MELEE

[wind spruce]

Playing a staff that boring causes damage to the psyche

Players who think they enjoy it are the worst affected

They need to be saved from themselves

And immediately start on high dose SSRIs

[rancid geyser]

nothing tbf, its just a scale with what's fine and not fine

melee could probably use a bit of support

[hoary vapor]

oh u mean it like that

i thought u were talking SHIT

[rancid geyser]

nah

i just dont like melee, but i dont think it's bad

[kind jay]

i dont know i think we could use a bigger sword

[rancid geyser]

basically Inferno and SB needs to be bad touched, Smite too, and melee and guns need some support of some sort. Staves outside of inferno are all fine

imo

[hoary vapor]

fgs is the only thing that can be broken about psyker melee trust

[rancid geyser]

force hammer would be nice tbh

[kind jay]

with an fgs duct taped to it

[verbal thistle]

@spice aurora @rich spindle

[spice aurora]

fatshark is a multi-dollar company

[kind jay]

i too just had a mutant situation

[cosmic cobalt]

lma

[rancid geyser]

MUTANTS, biggest lay ups

[rancid geyser]

LMAO

i always share this one

mutants are my least liked enemy

[hoary vapor]

exact amount of dollar

[spice aurora]

mutant: yey new action figure

[rancid geyser]

face full of sunshine

[hidden willow]

we sharing mutant vids? let me share my alley-oop

[rancid geyser]

das a whole smash bros combo

😂

[hidden willow]

I should have learned to dodge better mid air

[chilly moth]

Sick do you got a pictures for The skill tree??

[novel yoke]

The day they nerf FGS is the day I never play psyker again

It's so nice on an otherwise harsh class to play

[cosmic cobalt]

psyker

harsh

💀

[earnest furnace]

I...think your are over estimating the Force greatsword.

[hidden willow]

its a pretty standard soulblaze build, let me log in and take a pic

inferno staff is pretty flexible

so there are some points you can swap around based on preference

quietude and vulnerable minds are not strictly requried, so they can be flexed to warp ghost, kinetic deflection, just a dream, channeling force, etc.

[chilly moth]

Thanx man will try this 👌😉😊

[hidden willow]

anticipation is not strictly requried either, but i find it pretty helpful

[deft stump]

I mean, usually EE is enough.

[hidden willow]

i may or may not lack skill

[cosmic cobalt]

no warp ghost?

[hidden willow]

I sometimes run warp ghost

its one of my flex points

depending on the mission modifiers / team comps

[icy breach]

I would say this looks solid; much better than majority of inferno builds i see in the wild

[icy breach]

I would not drop that; why would you not take a talent that enchances the most important defensive mechanic available to you?

[icy breach]

Skill can be gained

[hidden willow]

i sometimes trade it out for things like warp ghost, kinetic deflection, just a dream

i only have like 50 games so far on psyker, half of them are from leveling and only like 5 runs are mid 20s havocs with randoms

so im still in the experimenting with random shenanigans phase with the class

[icy breach]

I would still not trade for these; many ppl do not run anticipation and IMO its a mistake

[deft stump]

Papa, you told me to dump dodge on Arby for Concussive.

[icy breach]

Karien
I hope thats a joke cause i did not

[deft stump]

Well, you implied it when I said I'm swapping it back so I swapped it again.

[icy breach]

I said that both should be used; never skip concussive nor street smarts

[deft stump]

It only works on low ping quickplay. I think dodge is better otherwise.

[deft stump]

No points.

[icy breach]

Still should never skip

[icy breach]

Show me your build

[deft stump]

You know my build.

[icy breach]

Can’t remember; remind me

[deft stump]

1 point missing because that's the point for either.

[icy breach]

Take off the brittle dog talent
Ez done

Also take off the nuncios right node; i know you play on 300 ping & shit but that talent is fking dogshit… get smth else; literally toughness on blocking attacks talent in your… perdicament will be better

Cause you start blocking & don’t die as easily

When you panic

[deft stump]

Papa, I die to gun usually. No blocking is saving me from gun at 300 ping.

[icy breach]

If you use a shield it can help

[chilly moth]

Anybody wanna help with The cliffhabger trophy? Need 3 people to block bridge. Would really appriciate it

[deft stump]

Not really, stam broken and toughness broken in less than a sec.

[icy breach]

You also die to ragers most

[icy breach]

Max your stamina

[deft stump]

Because my toughness got shot out.

[icy breach]

Like you did on oggy

[deft stump]

1 shooter makes my toughness 0 in a blitz.

[icy breach]

Anyways; my point still stands; remove either of the nodes & get concussive & street smarts

[deft stump]

But papa, isn't brittle good if team doesn't have enough? I know the latter is defensive and does slow overheads though may ruin muscle memory.

[icy breach]

Sadly dog brittle is bad cause only 2 charges for dogsplosion & dog bounces away from ogryns so if there is a crusher pack you have to time your explosion… which you won’t with 300 ping

Even on normal ping is hard to do

MAM i wish dog was not dogshit

[deft stump]

I just spam, usually one hits, sometimes both.

[icy breach]

Ye thats the point

Its bad

[deft stump]

Sometimes, my dog looks like in middle of everything and hit nothing.

Except the gunner getting mauled.

[icy breach]

I wish the dog would ATLEAST on that brittle talent allow dog to mount ogryn enemies like the bosses to allow dogsplosion to be utilized better
hire me & i’ll make this fking game balance-wise better cmon!

[deft stump]

Double ping to force hold on.

Like on a boss.

[rancid geyser]

The dog could use some tweaking, using the dog bomb has always been awkward

Mistiming it feels bad but also having to train in on when it's in the exact location you need it is rough too

I might just be bad at arby but it's why I don't use that skill

Basically playing a QTE

[deft stump]

Easier when not on 300~ ping.

[spiral minnow]

which staf is best for LMB focused playstyle?

[deft stump]

EK.

[spiral minnow]

can u pls explain to me like to 5 years old why? does it have more basic crit or some special blessing others dont have? ty

[quartz barn]

Base crit is slightly higher

Dont remember the exact value, but its in kulis pinned guide

[spiral minnow]

ty, i ll look into it

[dusk timber]

Crit bonus stat

[deft stump]

Just more crit to be used like a semi-auto. Run Surge nexus or something.

[rancid geyser]

The Electrokinetic staff can give you up to +21%base crit from the critical bonus with an additional 5% from surge. At Base on psyker you will have 33.5% crit.

Because of critical bonus works and the damage you get from it the Elektrokinetic staff actively is the weapon that benefits the most from critical strikes and critical strike chance. Each critical strike realistically results in more than doubles it's damage base

[deft stump]

He said to explain like he was 5 year old. That's too much words.

[rancid geyser]

Uuuuh

Crit big and strong

More crit good

[deft stump]

Double crit very gud.

[rancid geyser]

I was about to gush about the EK too 🙁

Gamble stick

[spiral minnow]

i mean 5 year old psyker, not ogryn xD

tried the game and it is strong, also tried fullauto mod so my carpal tunnels wont bother me so much... but it stops workin too often

[wind spruce]

Yeah its pretty garbage

The modding discord might have a fix for it idk

[deft stump]

So, 5 year old human. The difference is one has powers and the other doesn't.

[earnest furnace]

Dont psychic powers need to mature and awaken? Wouldnt a 5 year old 'psyker' basically instantly explode and summon deamon crap?

[rancid geyser]

They can be active at birth, depends on the psyker grade — how powerful they will be or are

Most people with psychic abilities may also not be aware of them

[earnest furnace]

Lets say around Iota level, which is about the grade where people would be aware of having and be able to control psychic powers

[rancid geyser]

Most people aren't born at that level and are usually trained up to that point

Basically after they get collected by the imperium

[earnest furnace]

Ah Yes collected

[rancid geyser]

Most have extremely low capabilities that don't really tell that they have any. Like being lucky, which is twisting fate slightly through a latent ability

[earnest furnace]

But for all intents and purposes then, 5 years old psyker, compared to a 5 year old human, would just be a luckier human

[rancid geyser]

Avoiding near death experiences back to back, Being good at gambling, "Intuition" sometimes fall into this as well

[earnest furnace]

Assuming average psyker grade

[rancid geyser]

Kinda sorta

[earnest furnace]

Theres probably more to it, i dont doubt that

[rancid geyser]

Because it's both types of luck, good and bad

[earnest furnace]

Ah. makes them roll the random event dice twice as often

[rancid geyser]

^

[thorn cedar]

nerds

[earnest furnace]

What fandom do you think this is

[thorn cedar]

idk im just here to kill

[rancid geyser]

Not so much of a 40k fan tbh

Psykers are just the coolest part of 40k for the imperium

[earnest furnace]

Attaboy, thats that the commisar likes to hear

[kind jay]

i thought this was the donkey kong dicord

im in the wrong place

[thorn cedar]

i find almost all of 40K intolearbly dumb and the mrore i learn about it the more im firm in my opinion that it's just a ten-way calvinball match

[kind jay]

ook ook banana

[earnest furnace]

Its stupid, and absurd, and scary sometimes, and it fucking rocks

Then again, you dont need to understand it to enjoy it

[rancid geyser]

Imo fantasy/AoS is better

[earnest furnace]

Plenty of people play the games, or the tabletop independent of the lore

[kind jay]

nurgles my favorite thing about 40k

space marines my least

[earnest furnace]

https://tenor.com/view/sob-arnold-gif-12406885

[thorn cedar]

orks and the zealot aesthetic

thats about it for me

cause theyre both unapolagetically stupid

[kind jay]

orks are great too

[earnest furnace]

They rock. Theres not alot of 40k ork games, i know of 'speed freaks' Theres also 'shootas, blood n' teef'