psyker-class

[zealous wing]

in h40

[coral prism]

Enemies can stimm themselves?

[zealous wing]

with the stimm modifier yes

[silent frigate]

yes there is a certain modifier called stimmed enemies or something like that

[coral prism]

😭

I thought only we got to abuse super powers

[silent frigate]

now imagine 20 of those fuckers stimming themselves they are now a bigger threat than gunners

[crisp ether]

They are, even when they're not stimmed.

[silent frigate]

cuz atleast gunners are more noticeable

[crisp ether]

Gunners are barely the real issue in Havoc

[silent frigate]

arguable depending on number and surroundings

[crisp ether]

There's usually a lot more fodder guns than gunners. And the fodder guns just hit harder.

Them not being affected by gun resistance is a big deal.

[coral prism]

Now I'm really scared of higher havoc levels

[crisp ether]

Step by step.

[zealous wing]

as you should be, its fun as hell

[silent frigate]

thats why I dont have gunner resist anyway so they hit same for me KEK

[coral prism]

Each step forward I get turned into a blood mist at least 3 times yep

[zealous wing]

kek

[crisp ether]

I mean.

[coral prism]

I pushed 3 levels today and it was already really bad

[crisp ether]

That's a really ballsy thing to do in Havoc

[silent frigate]

I mean getting shredded in 2 vs 3 seconds does not make much of a difference with my rig so I try not be in those situations at all if I am in a situation like that I am dead anyway

[plucky flax]

Play surge surge against gunner seed

[long saddle]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/468

[cosmic cobalt]

psyker try to not cheat challenge

[zealous wing]

easy, because BB is hard to fuck up once you know how aiming works

personal fav though would be to watch someone try to frantically disable this mod because they are the only one who can reach the stalkers in the distance and their team is also actively dropping like flies

like, BB is really not that hard to aim at things with

[serene stream]

I feel aiming isn't as much of a problem as actually casting the damn blitz in the first place, feels like aol dialup speed without any boosts [using ability to boost cast speed/keystone that reduces cast time]

[zealous wing]

i dont even mind it, but i do run KR for when i am suddenly on specials duty

but otherwise, in the fight itself the cast time isnt that bad

its a good FGS stab worth of dmg at almost any needed range, from the safety of cover or wherever you need to move to, i am fine warrenting a little patience for it

[deft stump]

Even on controller, it's the dial up speed if not going that meme build.

[serene stream]

i don't want to sacrifice my damage buff/cd reduction keystone, so I can have a decent cast time on BB =w=

[plucky flax]

800k melee damage on surge surge build

[radiant frigate]

i'm guessing half of that is boss damage

[plucky flax]

Me like bonking big guys with big sword

[radiant frigate]

me too

[obtuse dome]

Level: Impossible

[thorn cedar]

that's hilarious

[wind spruce]

Just read the changelogs and it has an on/off toggle you can keybind

[plucky flax]

Yo btw I changed to ability cooldown timer now its nice

[rancid geyser]

10-14 buisiness days

back when the game first came out i thought the cast time was fine

as of current, i could never be caught hard casting it XD

[deft stump]

Except in emergencies?

[rancid geyser]

I mostly use EK so i never need it

I let someone else take a psyker to do flame staff if they want to, but as of like 2 days ago I resolved never to touch it again

https://tenor.com/view/big-brain-the-plays-mind-blowing-200iq-brain-gif-16451975

every time i touch that staff

[thorn cedar]

idk i only have one actual build that uses BB and i still find precasting it and being effective quite easy to achieve

[rancid geyser]

but on EK there isn't a single thing you need to cast BR on

point and kill, even on crushers. BR is just super slow

[thorn cedar]

yea but that aint as satisfying as instantly head popping a trapper the moment you have line of sight

[rancid geyser]

.>

that do be feeling good ngl

but they still get 1 tapped too XD

[thorn cedar]

i accidentally ran one extra block today

am helfy

(ignore the wheezing)

[rancid geyser]

accidently going above and beyond is good no?

i need to start running myself

[thorn cedar]

"accidentally going above and beyond" is pretty much my life

im overadjusting to 15yrs of smoking

[rancid geyser]

best of luck and much progress in the future

i've been trying to hit 200 pounds for like 6 years XD

just hit 192

[sweet sigil]

hows it goin everyone

[rancid geyser]

good, and you?

[sweet sigil]

pretty good, thinking of coming back lol

[rancid geyser]

to DT?

[sweet sigil]

yea

[rancid geyser]

do it, a bunch of new players more recently joined because of the sale

[sweet sigil]

was worried when it hit 2500 people lol

they need to release updates

[marble crater]

They did a few weeks ago

[thorn cedar]

oh youre trying to put some on huh

ive been like 120-125 forever

[rancid geyser]

muscle weight yeah

ive just been a bit inconsistent due to health coplications

[thorn cedar]

how tall

[rancid geyser]

used to be a very lanky kid

6ft

[thorn cedar]

cause im 5'7" lol

ye that makes sense

[rancid geyser]

even though i know i have a decent amount of muscle mass i still look kinda skinny lmao

[thorn cedar]

that sounds like an exhausting amount of calories to eat

[rancid geyser]

yeah...

the eating is legit the hardest part lmao

i have done 10 years straight of intermittent dieting

and stuffing the calories i need in the 6hr period that i eat is beyond rough

[thorn cedar]

ive taken to mass gainer

mostly as a meal supplement initially because i probably have a low key eating disorder

but now that im actually eating adequately lately its just another 800-1000cals I can easily drink down to add

[rancid geyser]

im not the best at dieting for muscle growth tbh

i just eat as healthy as i can, get some carbs and as much protien as possible

supplementing and stuff is a bit beyond me atm because life in NYC is a bit rough atm

[hoary mauve]

Saw someone with Salvage Lord yesterday

[thorn cedar]

https://www.google.com/search?gs_ssp=eJzj4tVP1zc0zDLIiC8rKUgzYPSSKcosS8xRyCstKcosyczPU0jOSU3MU0hPzMxLLQIAWW8P2g&q=rival+nutrition+clean+gainer&oq=rival+nu&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUqCggCEC4YgAQY5QQyBggAEEUYOTIHCAEQABiABDIKCAIQLhiABBjlBDIHCAMQABiABDIKCAQQLhiABBjlBDIHCAUQABiABDIHCAYQABiABDIHCAcQABiABDIHCAgQABiABDIHCAkQABiABDIHCAoQABiABDIHCAsQABiABDIHCAwQABiABDIHCA0QABiABDIHCA4QABiABNIBCDQwOTBqMGo3qAIUsAIB8QXzJEG4bAT7JQ&client=ms-android-bell-ca-rvc3&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8#ebo=0

Dont mind the hideous link

but that's what i take

it takes like two minutes to shake up the calories

saves a lot of time and effort

[rancid geyser]

hmmm

might be worth looking into

[thorn cedar]

my doctor recommended it, not that you need a doctor to recommend it lol

but i would legit not eat for 12+ hours and be starving and still wouldn't be motivated to eat/cook/go out for food

so this is better than starving

[rancid geyser]

have you checked on how your ghrelin acts in your system?

[thorn cedar]

i have gremlins in my system??

[rancid geyser]

it's the chemical that lets you know you should eat

[thorn cedar]

oh

[rancid geyser]

i should say that it stimulates hunger, but close enough

some people develop bad ghrelin levels over the years from starving themselves

[thorn cedar]

oh ghrelins yea

[rancid geyser]

it's happened to me before

[thorn cedar]

nah never did

[rancid geyser]

worth looking into

[thorn cedar]

i sorta know what the problem is/was

ADHD + MegaGamer + nicotene, so much nicotene

[rancid geyser]

i has no clue what nicotine does to the body, but gaming can do it yeah

[thorn cedar]

nicotene suppresses hunger

[rancid geyser]

noticed i woulnt eat sometimes when gaming when i was younger

[thorn cedar]

and id smoke every hour pretty much

one month free as of yesterday wooo

[deft stump]

Some people GRINDED for it.

If you are okay to do like 300 farm runs, you can totally get it.

Assuming 350~ per run.

Should be possible if you are okay in spending 300 hours in Expeditions.

[rancid geyser]

nah ppl are using mods to get the full 400 per room

did a few runs with some of them, not fun

never getting the title

[deft stump]

Ah. I don't mod, I just stealth vet loot gobbo while having my duo sigh at my gremlin mode.

[cosmic cobalt]

isn't server sided mod bannable

[rancid geyser]

its also annoying because apparently some of the salvage spawn outside of the map

[long saddle]

it's not server side

it's markers all in one

[deft stump]

This is normal. You can see them spawn half into the floor at times.

[rancid geyser]

i mostly dont use mods either, which is why im probably never getting it

[long saddle]

and you make it so that you can view all the pickups in 100m and you can see them through walls

[deft stump]

Technically cheating, but eh.

[rancid geyser]

^

[long saddle]

and you just play vaccum cleaner

[rancid geyser]

most mods are technically cheating

lmao

but in all fairness there are those that QoL to the game that SHOULD just be there

like enhanced descriptions...

[long saddle]

the gains are minor

it's not like you're using a mod to hl all elites or something

[deft stump]

The description writer says it was on purpose to prevent minmaxxing. Why ingame descriptions suck arse.

[rancid geyser]

its a game with a talent tree

[deft stump]

Yes.

[rancid geyser]

what kind of ignoramic mindset is that

[long saddle]

the descriptions are also inconsistent in their naming

[rancid geyser]

min maxing exists in EVERYTHING that has time investment

[deft stump]

Anyone who uses Skitarius basically does that.

[rancid geyser]

only an idiot thinks they can prevent it

[loud girder]

They're just bad at explaining things lol it's not some conspiracy
Majority of devs are horrible at explaining mechanics

Or they over explain it and hold your hand too much

[deft stump]

Why technically cheating, but more on the eh side. Does tell you where you can ignore unfairly though if you are hunting for stuff.

[rancid geyser]

Quelling still has an extra 'l' after almost 3 years

[loud girder]

Average FS description

[rancid geyser]

they actually do not look over their game

and the forums legit dont seem to matter like 90% of the time

still having buffs hide behind our ability

or being completely blank boxes

or even not showing up on the bar already

still have some that SHOULD show up in live game but only do so in the psykhanium

ppl in the cimmunity can "fix" the problem but get next to nothing for it

they could be like some other game companies out there and actually hire helpful individuals

big COULD

[deft stump]

Or just steal the mods as fixes and thank them for their time like some devs do.

[rancid geyser]

yeah...

[loud girder]

Cdpr hired the modders that made some of the best qol mods and incorporated their work into the game lol

[dire wharf]

@loud girder valve and bethesda hire modders too

[deft stump]

I mean, they technically own the game so they have, on some level, the right to do it.

[rancid geyser]

CDPR did a good thing when they did

[rancid geyser]

i have an issue with this but its mostly on morals

and im sure many ppl dont share the same, especially those in FS

[rancid geyser]

valve does this often too which is nice

they DO have the resources to do it often though

[dire wharf]

Valve is just an indy developer

[deft stump]

Yeah. But people rather the game being fixed for all than be in this mess state. It's worse when it's crossplay. Some would agree Aliens Fireteam Elite modding prevents public matching thing is harsh, but it is fair. Console players lack access to mods.

Not everyone wants to match with someone who might be cheating on some level.

And we can all agree some mods are very blatantly cheats.

[rancid geyser]

yeah

[plucky flax]

Sry thats me

[verbal thistle]

@ripe obsidian I found this old clip of arby dog bleed

this was through purple healing

[jovial juniper]

Arbites if it was good

[cosmic cobalt]

pitbull when unattended child:

[silent frigate]

Yeah and to you emperor’s lanterns are also cheating lmao

[cosmic cobalt]

emperor lantern is nice

won't be necessary if the game let you see literally 3m in front of you

[silent frigate]

For karien it is cheating

Unfair advantage against console players bro

Kekw

[cosmic cobalt]

I mean cheating or not is depend on your self restrain

[deft stump]

Also, what is a possible advantage someone else, in this case, console gamers cannot have.

[silent frigate]

Boohoo then play on pc

[deft stump]

Is one thing if it's in an accessiblity tab in settings, is another if it's added in via third party.

[deft stump]

Sure, top them up with say, $1.2k.

That's cost of a mid lvl PC vs an Xbox right now.

[silent frigate]

You can play darktide with about 600-700$ laptop

[cosmic cobalt]

I mean PC ended up cheaper in long term but that not exactly the point

[deft stump]

Not well, unless you pay more.

[zealous wing]

ono, accessibility mods in MY WH40K game? just dont play the game if you care for your well being. -karien

[cosmic cobalt]

anyway console is alway disadvantaged anyway because no mouse aim lmaoooo

[zealous wing]

how dare people install mods to actually be able to enjoy a game

the audacity

[silent frigate]

Remove m&k from pcs its unfair advantage bro

[zealous wing]

in MY TEAM COOP GAME? nah

TRUE

also remove people with better pcs access, 144 fps is OBVIOUSLY an advantage

[cosmic cobalt]

it is an advantage

[zealous wing]

OH and remove people with good internet, another obvious advantage

[silent frigate]

Not really anything with relatively new cpu and gpus can run the game just fine I am playing with a 7 year old laptop while its a struggle I am pretty sure if I were to replace it with something around 600-700 euros I would be able to be play maybe not with full graphics but probably 60-70fps

[zealous wing]

(karien genuinely says mods for accessibility are just cheaters using disability as an excuse to cheat, hence why i am having no chill)

[icy breach]

Yeah… but its a 1 time purchase
And consoles are performing seppuku with their prices updates

[silent frigate]

Oh yeah I cant turn off some graphics settings gain some fps in the game and I use a mod for it thats also cheating I guess

[deft stump]

(Some are, and you know that. Name me how many legit deaf or near deaf players who use spidey sense vs those who have 90-95% of their senses. 5-10% catering to aging loss of sense.)

[zealous wing]

karien is just trying to put herself as an elitist purist, and cant concieve mod users not being cheaters

[deft stump]

But it is more accessiblity than say, psykernautics.

[cosmic cobalt]

i mean while spidey sense is cheaty most people use it because silent specialist since the game cannot handle audio

[deft stump]

Or even Skitarius.

[cosmic cobalt]

psykernautic is 100% cheat

[deft stump]

Or minigame helper.

[zealous wing]

you outright SAID emperors lantern for migraine prevention and spidey sense were cheating because console users cant do that

[silent frigate]

Whats the argument here ? You buy an Xbox or ps and you pay alot more for games atleast for my country console game prices are 2 times more than their pc counterparts. So I buy Xbox and 6 games and I pay basically the same amount as a high end pc lmao

[deft stump]

Which is basically a cheat sheet for the new minigame, last I heard.

[zealous wing]

also again

for the billionth time

SPIDEY SENSE DOES NOT SHOW SILENT HERETICS

IF NO SOUND PLAYS, NO INDICATOR GIVEN

[deft stump]

Game prices really depends, and back when the sub was cheaper, one can get gaming out of it for reasonable costs.

[zealous wing]

it doesnt even show ALL nonsilent sounds going off

[silent frigate]

I am here I have 20-30% hearing loss on my left ear

And I dont have spare money to buy a good quality headset

[zealous wing]

also, karien

accessibility is usually meant to help EVERYONE

wheelchair ramp? also helps people who struggle with stairs. they must be cheating now

[deft stump]

Which is why it should be included by the devs.

[rancid geyser]

i think there is much nuiance with this topic

feels a bit watered down in this convo

[zealous wing]

its fucking FATSHARK, what they should do and what they will do are different

[rancid geyser]

fair

[silent frigate]

I find vet’s executioner stance highlights to be hard to see and I would fucking install a mod that changes its color instantly if I could cuz it’s uncomfortable for my eyes

[deft stump]

Is like, owner of building refuses to put ramps, some guy installed it, but gates it to certain users only, so other people with issues cannot access it.

[rancid geyser]

wait

it's not the same thign

[zealous wing]

karien and i have had this issue before, and is why were no longer friends

[rancid geyser]

ppl are gated due to limitations not because the person made it so they can't use it

[silent frigate]

Its not even close

[deft stump]

And the owner refuses to just take it and open it to all.

[silent frigate]

Very faulty analogy

Very very faulty analogy

[rancid geyser]

it would be different if that's how modding actually worked

but consoles are hard-locked to their itteration of the game

and cannot be modified

legally*

[cosmic cobalt]

toxic yuri .....

[silent frigate]

These are the same guys that refuse to fix spelling errors or fix cosmetics that are clipping badly you have paid for

[zealous wing]

regeneneration

[thorn cedar]

ive got a funny story about PC modding as well

[rancid geyser]

the PC argument is valid though, on PC you legit are paying for more freedom with the product you are consuming

[deft stump]

The idea is Fatshark reading it and just adding it base line so no arguements, just an ingame toggle for them.

[plucky flax]

Play fallout new vegas vanilla because console can't mod it.

[thorn cedar]

believe it or not, modding your game is in most instances strictly illegal on PC as well. it's just that most companies could not give less of a fuck about it unless it's somehow undercutting some sort of competitive angle they market

[zealous wing]

thats not as easy as you make it sounds tbh

[rancid geyser]

modifying how the game functions on a console is very much beyond FS's reach atm

[icy breach]

Majority of the time its them not looking around & being unaware; also not aware of potential points where said specials can come at ya
Pepegas all

[rancid geyser]

making games for multiple platforms requires a LOT of extra work just for them to funcion well on console

[zealous wing]

taking a mod and slappingit into the code wouldnt work

[rancid geyser]

the work-load would be too damn massive to back that into the game for console

[silent frigate]

Yet they will never do so cuz modders have done that instead of them so they dont give 2 shits about how people play their games

[deft stump]

Forgot they break things trying to fix other things in the first place.

[icy breach]

I’m yet to meet a good player using skittarius; they are all dogshit in one way or the other

[rancid geyser]

it's not even that

[icy breach]

Lazy mod essentially

[thorn cedar]

what the fuck is skitarius

[rancid geyser]

im learning game design and much more, but when you make something that is on PC and other platforms your main files are legit PC

and any console file is a modified version of the main and has to be edited in a completely different way, to match the hardware limitations

[silent frigate]

I dont use skittarius but my own mouse software for macros and I believe I am good at the game lmao

[buoyant maple]

spidey sense is based on audio

[icy breach]

And majority of the time console boi is a detriment to the team mainly due to controls

[cosmic cobalt]

not using skitarius make me better at the game fr fr

[rancid geyser]

this

exactly

designing controls for console is a major pain in the ass

[silent frigate]

Dude how ignorant do you have to be to understand that spidey sense doesnt show shit if it doesn’t have audio

[icy breach]

Macro is also cheating btw
Pepega

[icy breach]

Well now…

[cosmic cobalt]

probably cause I don't use it myself

[rancid geyser]

ignorance is not a bad thing when not knowing of something that isn't just general knowledge.

[silent frigate]

Yes I am not gonna have carpal tunnel just cuz game sucks with its accessibility

[deft stump]

Why like earlier, is better to gate the lvl of mods like DRG. Certain mods straight prevent public matchmaking, and I do mean the ones 90% of people can agree are cheats. And then there's a pure queue and a modded queue. But then again, the player base is so tiny, it just wouldn't work. Not like it matters if I just play APAC C in the middle of the night anyway. I get 3 bots if not duoing with a friend.

[buoyant maple]

radar is actual spatial scan
spidey sense is audio-based and won't do anything if the audio just doesn't exist

[rancid geyser]

you need a parent beating your hand for not know the input

[thorn cedar]

You're gonna have carpal tunnel because you can't take breaks and your bloodline is weak.

[icy breach]

Nah its not due to your ‚concern of health’
Its cause you wanna spam your left click for more dmg
Pack it in

[thorn cedar]

Not because of a game.

[icy breach]

[icy breach]

Damn… crazy

[silent frigate]

I have issues with my grip where sometimes I cant lift my fingers gets locked but sure

[zealous wing]

fea doesnt use any cancel macros

or swaps

that ive seen anyway

[deft stump]

More how they do the right stick. Playing Aliens Fireteam Elite makes me think it was designed for controllers with 30-50% stick drift.

[buoyant maple]

I finished relic blade section overhaul in guide btw

[icy breach]

If thats true then unfortunate & justified

[rancid geyser]

hey as long as people arent using mods as a sub for skill while rubbing it in someone elses face I think they are fine

it IS PVE but ppl also like to gloat and the likes

but realistically mods don't hurt anyone aside from ego

[cosmic cobalt]

I use scoreboard so when i see im covered in piss yellow my ego go up

[rancid geyser]

accessibility is a valid reason to mod

difficulty is another as well

[deft stump]

@icy breach I'm serious. It doesn't register aiming till at least hitting the 35% deadzone mark. Been trying to play it.

[rancid geyser]

locking people away from others when they use certain mods is also valid

[thorn cedar]

you dont need mods to do that u can just piss all over urself at any time

[cosmic cobalt]

problem is you can't do that with nexus lol

[fathom adder]

"B-but someone might get a title when they don't deserve it!"

[zealous wing]

but the game doesnt lock people away

[thorn cedar]

stolen valour is a serious crime

[deft stump]

Which is annoying since my controller works on 5% min deadzone.

[buoyant maple]

dats all 3 power blade weapons done

[cosmic cobalt]

also they didn't implement that beforehand

[zealous wing]

mods are fine

[cosmic cobalt]

title in this game is funny

you can cheese most of them

[thorn cedar]

also i dont want to hear this argument from anybody on this discord where people regularly bitch about people with ASS or Havoc titles 'sucking and must have been carried'

[rancid geyser]

Yeah but who tf would I be to say someone 'deserves' something. What kind of inflation on self-importance would I have to have to think my opinion should be the one that people care about and follow?

[cosmic cobalt]

ass is probably the most prominent example

[buoyant maple]

ASS and fake survivor

[thorn cedar]

what controller

[zealous wing]

auric exemplar now

[cosmic cobalt]

I've seen ts player play like absolute dogshit

auric examplar is funny

[zealous wing]

can be done in half an hour or less

[cosmic cobalt]

just extract from expedition

[zealous wing]

yup

[cosmic cobalt]

lmao

why does it fucking count

[zealous wing]

fatshark is dumb

[deft stump]

GameSir T4Kaleid. Might be looking at the upcoming Cyclone3 for an upgrade since a half dead dodge button is getting on me.

[rancid geyser]

Yeah, when they made the fix they should have stripped it from everyone, or just made a new title. Could have had the same titel with a different look for ppl who got it post change. Kinda like how Destiny does it

[jovial juniper]

Fatshark knows what they are doing

So

They made it farmable on expeditions

[cosmic cobalt]

vader 5 pro tbh

[buoyant maple]

heard new steam controller might be good

[thorn cedar]

what is this madcatz looking thing

[jovial juniper]

So their non existent play tester

[cosmic cobalt]

steam controller coming out

[jovial juniper]

Could cheese it

And get the title for bragging rights

[cosmic cobalt]

it is very competitive compare to 200$ price point controller

while half the cost

[buoyant maple]

yea

[deft stump]

It's actually decent if you ignore how kitchzy it looks.

[buoyant maple]

anti stick drift is good

[cosmic cobalt]

it look bulky but it probably gonna be like the steam deck where it feel natural

[thorn cedar]

i actually cannot ignore it lmao

[cosmic cobalt]

it's not hall effect

it's tmr

so even better

[deft stump]

Considering it costs like Uhh... USD$42~.

[cosmic cobalt]

much better stick precision

[thorn cedar]

oh yeah the price looks good

i mean i paid like

[rancid geyser]

yo i ran into an ogryn doing this

like 5 runs back to back

[thorn cedar]

almost $80 for my dualsense

[rancid geyser]

Name was Thuddo just loading in and extracting

[thorn cedar]

but shit idk my hands were born with a playstation controller

[silent frigate]

And my pc having slide show moments boohoo get good

[thorn cedar]

(thats a lie, it was actually an N64 controller)

[deft stump]

It is. I have the old discontinued model.

[cosmic cobalt]

I'm talking about steam controller 2

[deft stump]

I get 4-59 fps daily.

[deft stump]

Oh.

[icy breach]

Good lord

[deft stump]

And there is no deadzone setting to tweak it.

[thorn cedar]

thats rough

deadzone is like

my most hated function

[deft stump]

So I'm just using shotguns and flamers.

[icy breach]

You’re torturing me with such info

[rancid geyser]

This title is also a joke too tbf, Can just get lucky and get carried randomly

[icy breach]

[buoyant maple]

yea

[deft stump]

Because I'm suffering it cos a friend who enjoys the Aliens series is getting me to play it.

[silent frigate]

You can tweak on pc and use it on console later

[fathom adder]

You would be some kind of chudjak, like the one in the picture making fun of that attitude

[deft stump]

Not for that game. There's a deadzone built into controller settings for it.

[icy breach]

You don’t like Giger Aliens?

[deft stump]

I don't like the aim controls. It's not sensitive enough deadzone wise.

Even karking L4D2 feels better on controller.

[rancid geyser]

what game does that?

that sounds like ass

[deft stump]

Aliens Fireteam Elite.

[rancid geyser]

really?!

i was gunna get back into it lmao

oof

[deft stump]

My controller deadzone is 5%, it takes more than that to start aiming.

[rancid geyser]

that's extra dev time on something they legit did not need to put in

[deft stump]

I literally cannot fine tune my aim for that reason.

[rancid geyser]

i would say you could peak into the file, but im not sure if they have something set up to flag you for doing so

[deft stump]

It's likely to cater to Xbox stick drift.

Cos funny enough, my drifting Xbox X/S doesn't drift in it.

And that kark drifts on Darktide on 0.13 deadzone hard.

[silent frigate]

Set it to 0

[deft stump]

Darktide, you can, not for Fireteam Elite.

It needs to be at 0.45 or so to only slightly drift on Darktide.

Yeah, that thing drifts harder than race cars and it was barely out of warrenty.

Was why I went to third party tbh.

Paying $89 for a controller that drifts after 3 months sucks.

Sale price.

[silent frigate]

Get good, adapt/ save up to buy a pc or use m&k on console where applicable

[rancid geyser]

i would say investing into a PC is just a good idea

sooner than later imo

[deft stump]

I am on PC, if you noticed the T4Kaleid is a switch/PC controller.

Not Xbox approved and pretty sure Darktide isn't on the switch.

[rancid geyser]

because it would explode on launch

[deft stump]

Well, Android as well.

[silent frigate]

Then its a you problem ?

[deft stump]

But GL running Darktide on a phone.

[deft stump]

I have no issues on Darktide with said controller. Nor in L4D2. It's whoever did controls for AFE.

[silent frigate]

Geforce now exists

[deft stump]

Then you play lag on lag. Okay for turn based, bleah otherwise.

[silent frigate]

This is not a place to complain about AFE

[rancid geyser]

BRO

THE GAME WONT LET ME EQUIP MY REJECT TITLE

[deft stump]

Thing is, I was just telling Papa about it before you all poked in on it.

[silent frigate]

You are rejected from reject title

You are truly a reject

[zealous wing]

same kuro

welcome to the curse

[deft stump]

This is why ppl don't swap out of it. Fatshark somehow breaks that title for half the accounts.

[silent frigate]

Rejected rejects will rise

[rancid geyser]

it's my fault for equipping something else to respond to a comment

🙁

[zealous wing]

feas got fixed randomly one day

[silent frigate]

I have been chosen

[rancid geyser]

wow

i shafted myself basically?

[silent frigate]

Bow before me you pesky pox breaker

[rancid geyser]

no!

see this is why we dont share random useless titles

[zealous wing]

kek

contact support probably

[rancid geyser]

so sad

[zealous wing]

so empty

[rancid geyser]

i legit do not play for titles lmao

or penances

[barren arrow]

unrejectable

[rancid geyser]

i really should though

[barren arrow]

:(

[zealous wing]

i have 5 penances left 😭 one is 2 more mortis

[silent frigate]

You should or else how would you be able to show your skill with an arbitrary title that can be easily obtained!

[rancid geyser]

i wish they were like MH titles

some of those actually held weight

like soloing the hardest quest in MH4U

or the gear from those naked hunt runs

this game has like nothing that really shows any dedication or true accomplishment 🙁

[silent frigate]

Reminds me of times when I was summoning people to beat somebosses on elden ring and they would be naked and I would think these guys are probably good since they are running naked. Only For them to get obliterated in the first 3 seconds

And make the fight harder than it is supposed to be

[cosmic cobalt]

light roll enjoyer

(me)

[silent frigate]

If you stagger lock em you dont have to dodge

[rancid geyser]

Elden Ring is legit just easier solo

[silent frigate]

Kekw

[cosmic cobalt]

game easier when you can control aggro

????????????

[rancid geyser]

it's not even just aggro

i can just nuke things instead of inviting bots to my world

🙂

[silent frigate]

If you know what you are doing and using different stuff than just beating your head against a wall again and again until you get lucky and succeed

[rancid geyser]

well before i learned about damage stacking i would legit just use all the damage buffs

this was what happened on my 1st run

went well enough

only boss i had to do more than 2 times was Melania

this was before any nerfs to any of the bosses, Radahn included

https://tenor.com/view/overlord-bunny-triple-maximum-magic-gif-16656848

[rigid sky]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/1sxjpt6/worth_using_creeping_flames_on_venting_shriek/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=13&utm_content=2 Today on Reddit: the Shriek-Without-Creeping-Flames heretics are at it

[silent frigate]

I beat radahn with zweihander and lion’s claw

[fluid knot]

You play DT on a controller? You maniac

[jovial juniper]

Yeah it's pretty easy

Darktide is easy anyways

[cosmic cobalt]

play h40 on steam deck

[fluid knot]

Playing anything that requires aiming finesse is unplayable on control imo

[cosmic cobalt]

17 fps premium

[silent frigate]

And when shadow of erd tree dropped I beat most of the stuff on first try with giant’s hunt zweihander kekw people were complaining way too much that even the first “boss” in dlc was too hard kekw

[fluid knot]

I struggled like fuck with SotET, but I'll push your shit in if we was to duel

[rancid geyser]

i have the dlc

still havent touched it XD

[rancid geyser]

why would you ever not use creeping flame?

tf?

[silent frigate]

Bruh you are missing out soo much

[rancid geyser]

i did see a big ass slab of rock that is used as a great sword

kinda want it

that and carian granduer exists

[rigid sky]

It's like just take literally any other ability right

Shriek is a 3 point Dragon Breath talent with incidental knockdown and the penalty of dumping your peril lol

[deft stump]

It's no secret, why I'm eternally annoyed playing anything below havoc is like, why and how am I last alive trying to clutch so much even at a massive ping disadvantage.

[thorn cedar]

Still kinda wanna try to play on my controller

I'm sure it'll be a nightmare after 4.6k hrs on m&k

[deft stump]

Just don't use plasma.

[rancid geyser]

dumping peril isn't a penalty in the way that you think it is

[zealous wing]

hang on you told me you only play heresy, and we only played heresy together

[fluid knot]

The AMOGS, it slaps. Though it has bugged scaling

[rigid sky]

Depends on the staff tbh

[thorn cedar]

why nawt

[deft stump]

I play whatever I get dragged into. Uprising to auric. I prefer heresy on solo queuing.

[silent frigate]

I mean it is certainly easier to clutch when you are playing shroud zealot or inf vet

But sure

[zealous wing]

and youre the last alive because you hid in the back behind everyone

[deft stump]

I only started infil vet after the shout nerf.

[zealous wing]

or are on arb

[rancid geyser]

well 1st it's a trade off for damage as i think the max stacks of soulblaze you can apply with creeping flames is when you are at 80% peril

but also if you are using quietude thats more toughness aswell and gives space to generate more for 50% more peril

[silent frigate]

It fucking sucks big time while its comfy it is horrendous

[silent frigate]

Shout was a buff tbh

[rigid sky]

I just mean to say that it's barely the point of the ability and is not even always strictly beneficial

The quietude dump is the main part yeah

[rancid geyser]

creeping flame is just the better of the last upgrades because soulblaze is busted, even when not building for it

[silent frigate]

It was a clear buff

[zealous wing]

VOC hasnt been nerfed recently at all

[silent frigate]

She is talking about cd rescale

[zealous wing]

slight cooldown increase to get free res lol

[rigid sky]

If you have 1 point in Shriek it's the best thing to do with your next two points, I would even say.

[dusk timber]

Base cooldown went from 30s to 40s

[rigid sky]

Because it turns your ability from "eh..." to Emperor-tier

[zealous wing]

yeah

[silent frigate]

Yes and you have no downsides on the right side upgrade anymore

[rancid geyser]

buff?!?!

nah man

someone needs to stop him

[silent frigate]

Which is extra 3 specialists you need to shoot

[cosmic cobalt]

it take 1 talent point and that enough

[deft stump]

Nerf. Longer CD, lower uptime. Even melee exe stance is likely better if not clutching on the gold toughness.

[zealous wing]

kekw

no

[dusk timber]

5 actually

[cosmic cobalt]

voc still good at keeping your team alive

• instant stagger

[zealous wing]

will always play field improve and voc res when on voc.

pointless not to

[dusk timber]

Tactical awareness effectively reduces cooldown by 2s each proc assuming you dont refresh it while already active

[zealous wing]

emertency res is too valuable

[rigid sky]

VoC res is fun because you can revive people in the middle of a fire and force them to die

[zealous wing]

they should just dodge the. because theyll have a few bits of immunity

[rigid sky]

Commissar class fantasy

[silent frigate]

Not really cuz between those kills will be more than 2 seconds anyway so you have passing time which will just make 3 more special kills in totalt

[rancid geyser]

you;d be surprised how many ppl dont dodge when resed inf ire

[rigid sky]

I was in a corner, and the bomber fire zone was positioned such that the corner was at the far edge lol

It would have been like 3 dodges and there were Ogryn standing in it

[rancid geyser]

ive had a few instances where i go for the res because they will die on the floor and when i do, they sit still in th eflames

[zealous wing]

dodge sideways

[rigid sky]

It was a really well placed kill lol

[deft stump]

Field Improv is an always have on every build, even if I can skip it due to Trench Fighter Drill.

[silent frigate]

You have no idea how many people are just skipping it lol

[rancid geyser]

too many

even had a convo about that last week in the vet chat

[deft stump]

This is just unlucky tbh.

[dusk timber]

I take field improv unless my melee benefits good enough from serrated (knife or shovel)

[deft stump]

Oh, I know. Half the vets I see lack it.

[rigid sky]

Wasn't even mad, was too funny

[zealous wing]

if a vet doesnt have field improv, theyll be judged harshly

[rancid geyser]

i think its ppl in DT thinking that damage trumps everything and building anything that could help the team directly without much benefit personally, is a wasted point

[silent frigate]

I simply barrel them or kick them out right

[rancid geyser]

andfair

but also

sometimes bullying helps growth

[zealous wing]

the number of runs saved because of their field improv is many

[deft stump]

Though between me and a friend, we always have it on our vets if we aren't just duo psykers.

[silent frigate]

Res stagger and gold toughness are direct helps which are way too valuable to skip

[rancid geyser]

when im on vet I usually tell ppl they dont need it anyway, I do not value the 10% attack speed or bleed on PSword, which is the only melee I use

[jovial juniper]

Field Improv is optional anyways

[zealous wing]

especially on a squishy af class like vet is once theres melee pressure

[rancid geyser]

yeah, but most vets take it because the gold toughness helps THEM

[silent frigate]

There was a point one time when I just placed a ammo create to chug nades at boss spam kek

[rancid geyser]

most ppl do not care about the team

res is for ppl who actually do

[dusk timber]

Not taking trench on power sword is a take

[silent frigate]

Because they are bad

[deft stump]

Oh, I know. That saved runs before. Just lob so many frags, everything just dies.

[rancid geyser]

it's only 10%, I've never needed it. Not saying it's bad but 10% is something i can live without

[zealous wing]

never understood vet shredderfrags

so weak

[dusk timber]

Really good mixed horde and stagger

[zealous wing]

smokes suck ass but have a purpose

[silent frigate]

It feels good only on 2 weapons and nothing else really

[dusk timber]

You have to drop two at a time

[zealous wing]

ew

[dusk timber]

Uncanny also helps

[rancid geyser]

nah, when i was playing with alchemist and some others i legit got new found respect for smokes

there are no ranged threats when you have a smoke vet

[dusk timber]

Disagree

[silent frigate]

Shredder is a relic from the past where it would do unholy amounts of bleed

[deft stump]

You can drop three to make them die faster.

[zealous wing]

i cannot stand smokes for the fact they hide nametags. its fucking disorienting

[dusk timber]

True

But usually two is enough

[icy breach]

👆 This 👆

[rancid geyser]

which ones? I pretty much only like the PSWord ngl

[deft stump]

Still does through.

[rancid geyser]

FS could fix, but wont

[silent frigate]

Power sword and chainsword

[dusk timber]

Rashad

[silent frigate]

Not really

[zealous wing]

kekw

why the fuck do people say rashad is good

[buoyant maple]

it's psyker's VB if it was balanced

[zealous wing]

ive seen no clips of rashad being anything other than a dissapointment

[icy breach]

Bruh; 6 bleeds per nade on a best class that shits out nades is insane
2 nades is enough to thin mixed horde ez

[zealous wing]

random but ye made me think of that

[buoyant maple]

cuz it's the best melee weapon on hive scum, the best melee class in the game, and it's not even close

[rancid geyser]

My issue is with 10% attack speed is if its the only bonus to attack speed, it's barely noticeable, and if you are using WS, it's even less noticeable

[dusk timber]

It is pretty noticeable for me

[silent frigate]

I will never use WS

[zealous wing]

best how

[silent frigate]

6 bleed stacks is nothing

[zealous wing]

scum can make shitty weapons good via rampage, so that alone is a low bar

[buoyant maple]

best mixed horde, high single target, doesn't need rending or cleave which saves 2 points to be spent on other things

[silent frigate]

You can just mow em down with recon las or you know let someone actually can dealt with hordes do their job

[buoyant maple]

I'm almost convinced it's the way it is on scum rn because none of the playtesters played rashad so it slipped through

[rancid geyser]

the frame time for swings is so low that .1 second is usually what you are getting from 10% no? That's not even something you can react to and is a pretty miniscule speed improvement imo

[deft stump]

People forget Skirmisher and infil memes on it.

[jovial juniper]

Because it is

[zealous wing]

meh

[jovial juniper]

It does everything

[zealous wing]

ill try on scum but every other class so far its felt solid ass

[jovial juniper]

Maybe not run fast a la combat knife

But still

Everything

[dusk timber]

Idk i just feel a noticeable difference when i have it

[buoyant maple]

it's ok I've heard worse things from psykers

[dusk timber]

Its good on any class

[zealous wing]

its attack pattern is just ... wrong to me and it makes me hate it more than reasonable

[jovial juniper]

Just uh make sure you're hitting the breakpoints

Yeah

[rancid geyser]

over multiple swings endlessly then sure

but if you are powering the sword

the change is a bit negligable

[buoyant maple]

no it is pretty noticeable
especially vs ragers

big difference

[rancid geyser]

each swing takes like .5s almost

[rigid sky]

I really don't feel like Rashad is the best, it swings a little too slow for me

[buoyant maple]

it also affects activation animation's time

[rancid geyser]

i cant see 10% mattering for that

25% yes

[rigid sky]

It's really good

[rancid geyser]

but a point for 10% is something i can do without

[icy breach]

You have no idea

[rigid sky]

But idk on a melee build I prefer tac axe 7 by far

Or on Psykers we get the FGS6 which is an actual monster

[buoyant maple]

rashad on hive scum kill 4 ragers in 1 swing

very balanced

[rigid sky]

So does tac axe

[buoyant maple]

definitely got playtested

tac axe can't without crit

rashad does it without crit lolol

[dusk timber]

Slow attack speed really doesnt matter on a class that can stack as much attack speed bonuses as scum

[rigid sky]

It does with a bit of hyperviolence

[buoyant maple]

yea rashad just doesn't

[rigid sky]

And tac axe does tend to crit a lot lol

[buoyant maple]

tac axe is good on scum but rashad is next lvl

[rancid geyser]

the same one you can just cancle anyway?

[buoyant maple]

yea it makes it so u can cancel it faster

[silent frigate]

I do I played vet religiously and still play it alot

[buoyant maple]

idk, play more melee vs ragers and u will prob be able to tell a difference

[rancid geyser]

doing that poke 10% faster looks like what?

you wouldn't be able to show me the difference without a frame counter i feel like

this would also lead to you needing to learn a new cancel time, which isn't something I'm against though

[buoyant maple]

like I said, it's pretty noticeable vs ragers

[dusk timber]

I just press special and immediately block

[rancid geyser]

no comparison to show notice my boi

[buoyant maple]

yea, ik how attack speed works

it's timescale mod

some atks benefit from it more noticeably, some less

[rancid geyser]

either way, im knot saying its a bad talent, I just can do without it

[buoyant maple]

yea u can play without it

[rancid geyser]

even more so when you have a ranged weapon that can just delete ragers all together

[buoyant maple]

it's just really good

[rancid geyser]

that's an opinion i can't share

not for PSword

[deft stump]

That's 2 frags.

[buoyant maple]

I think it's a significant difference for power sword

for smth like tac axe I wouldn't

it comes down to "can I afford this talent"

[jovial juniper]

Notice how it's not melee
#noticing

[buoyant maple]

and outside of marksman's focus the answer is usually yes

[rancid geyser]

speaking of the entire loadout

because many things can be considered in the convo

[dusk timber]

What isnt melee

[jovial juniper]

A ranged weapon

[rancid geyser]

if im on PSword with Plasma I am 190% skipping 10% attackspeed because i already have +25%

[buoyant maple]

25% what

[dusk timber]

Where are you getting 25%

[rancid geyser]

and if i have IAG or Las Recon im also skipping it because the one enemy thaty the attackspeed looks like it would be beneficial probably will never be in my face

[dusk timber]

WS is only +10% melee attack speed

[rancid geyser]

15*

[dusk timber]

Oh 15% nvm

Still

[rancid geyser]

i meant to type 15

[dusk timber]

Getting to 25% attack speed is a pretty big deal

[rancid geyser]

i could legit use that extra point for anything else

[buoyant maple]

I tried power sword without 10% atk speed before

it's like swinging relic blade

lol

[rancid geyser]

i might just not notice it much because its legit just me sliding and block cancling in most situations when using it

never more than just the 2 swipes are needed in between intervals

[verbal thistle]

EP assail

[buoyant maple]

u would prob notice it more if u mainly melee'd

[rancid geyser]

on my vet?!?!!?

the slander!

[buoyant maple]

yea

[dusk timber]

Yes

[buoyant maple]

vet is rly good at melee

[rancid geyser]

but

GUN!

[buoyant maple]

vet is hybrid combat class not ranged class

ranged class is psyker

[dire wharf]

@zealous wing emperors lantern?

[rancid geyser]

I mean its not like i dont use it

but i think melee is like 30% of my runs

[buoyant maple]

yea too low

[rancid geyser]

sometimes a bit more or less

[buoyant maple]

gotta bump that up to 60~70%

[rancid geyser]

i just never run out of ammo on IAG

and most def not on Recon

I do have to melee more when on Plasma

but i don't use that often

[jovial juniper]

To what

[rancid geyser]

legit feel like vet is 65% ranged 35% melee

[dusk timber]

https://tenor.com/view/junko-touhou-touhou-project-touhou-mmd-junko-touhou-gif-5890454101061935638

[rancid geyser]

even more ranged on recon

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/the-voices-meme-cat-gif-23917781

[buoyant maple]

u just gotta melee more to feel the difference then

this is way too little melee

[dusk timber]

Vet much stronger when its the other way around

[rancid geyser]

you see, but its more like even if i wanted to melee in havocs

guess why i cant?

PSYKER IS BURNING EVERYTHING

[buoyant maple]

don't accept psyker ez

[rancid geyser]

hmm

fair

lmao

[buoyant maple]

psyker and scum both lower diff by 1

too cheesy

[rancid geyser]

ngl

i lowkey would add ogryn to that list too

taunt is actually busted imo

[buoyant maple]

a really good og (exceedingly rare) lowers diff by 2

a bad og increases diff by 2

[rancid geyser]

between the runs i last did, a flame staff psyker and taunt ogryn means i never have to pull out melee

except maybe into crusher packs

[buoyant maple]

also pretty sure vet is higher mixed horde dps with melee as opposed to ranged, outside plasma

[rancid geyser]

oh actually, since ive gone exec stance ive been using melee a bit more

since ive been allowed less space than when using VoC

VoC is another reason, I scream and run

simple

[buoyant maple]

Fun times

[rancid geyser]

see all that space you;ve got?

id have just killed them faster gunning them down with IAG

like no cap

i have to be forced to pull out the PSword

[buoyant maple]

Yea ranged can farm damage pretty easy

[rancid geyser]

space=safety

safety=gun

[buoyant maple]

But melee is higher mixed horde dps

On vet anyway

[rancid geyser]

hmm, when i play anything i usually only care about specials tbh

[dusk timber]

For me its mostly the other way around lol

[rancid geyser]

most ppl kill chaff from my experience

[buoyant maple]

I basically only use gun for what I can’t melee within next 2s

[rancid geyser]

but all that ammo unspent?

[buoyant maple]

If I don’t need it someone else can take it

[rancid geyser]

all those lonely bullets

[dusk timber]

Means someone else can take the pickups

[rancid geyser]

nono, not picking up ammo, just spending it XD

You will naturally pick up less ammo

[dusk timber]

If you spend more ammo you'll need to pick up more

[rancid geyser]

even on IAG

[buoyant maple]

I don’t even pickup ammo unless I’m below 50% usually

[dusk timber]

Also ammo economy is borked on this patch so we have a lot more ammo than we're supposed to until it gets patched

[rancid geyser]

is that why i havent been seeing red symbols on my teammates?

lmao

legit feels like no one is running for ammo recently

[dusk timber]

Yeah survivalist is bugged

Kills from the vet's teammates completely ignore the cooldown

[rancid geyser]

LMAO

so we got back the old version

got it

[buoyant maple]

it'll prob get patched in May

[rancid geyser]

of next year?

[buoyant maple]

before May 14 2026

prob

cuz there should be another hotfix before then to push the rotation after this Thursday

[rancid geyser]

maybe after the change ill have reason to use melee more

if i dont just default back to psyker

been enjoying double psyker runs more and more tbh

[frail oar]

Wanna duo some maelstroms later? Ill be the wall boi.

[rancid geyser]

sure, my finger is mostly healed

[frail oar]

Ek staff go brrr on the index finger

[rancid geyser]

fried it ngl

for like a whole 2 weeks

been playing with my middle finger and ring finger instead XD

[jovial juniper]

It's not a bug
It's a feature

I personally contacted my inside sources at Fatshark

And told them to buff Gunlugger

Then they told me they would shadow buff survivalist

It's true

You can trust me 10000% on that one

[deft stump]

Hey, it means vets get all the ammo now if survivalist since only they spend ammo.

Unless you use more than 1% ammo to kill an elite.

[jovial juniper]

Actually I just contacted my sources again

They laughed at me for thinking it was a Gunlugger buff

And said it was due to pickpocket nerf that they shadow buffed survivalist

[dire wharf]

My inside source at bigshark is my nephew's uncle, who works at Nintendo and is secretly dating someone from Sega, she confirms everything going on with darktide

[deft stump]

Oh right, it works on the bots as well, can play Gunscum again.

[spiral minnow]

dat feel when u are downed, but all ragers and maulers are burning to death and die to your wildfire anyway xDD

[rancid geyser]

Sureley you mean Perilous Combustion

[spiral minnow]

probably, the one not limited by stacks

[rancid geyser]

yeah PC

[spiral minnow]

this new event is great with those hordes of elites, hard, but fun .)

[rancid geyser]

i like it

until im backed against a wall stuck between 23 maulers

whatever that mission with the phage tree is

was hilarious

[spiral minnow]

happened to me rn too, but all enemies died due to PC and my teammates could get me up .)

still, meleeker is kinda hard for me

some waves tho... killing whole stack of elites... muah

do charged strikes stun enemies like smite?

[dusk timber]

Charged strikes sucks

And for meleeker i'd much rather go assail or BB

[jovial juniper]

No

[spiral minnow]

i have assail rn, jsut for building up 99%, but with Just a dream and Warp ghost, i can get there easily and stay there, or use SG

[rancid geyser]

discord, the place where all your heavenly wonderful delusions immediatley get snuffed out

hehe

but yeah, charged strike is kinda sad

[thorn cedar]

it does

[dusk timber]

Assail also feeds melefic momentum

[thorn cedar]

well i guess actually the quibble is 'LIKE SMITE' cause it's not at all like standard smite's stun

but it does stun

[spiral minnow]

i am sporting this rn for meleeker, any tips to make it better? .)

[thorn cedar]

charged strike is almost kinda legit with the mark 1 dclaw

[rancid geyser]

why was this disallowed?

tf?!

[thorn cedar]

thats as generous as im willing to get with it

[rancid geyser]

is it bad that that really just bothered me?

[thorn cedar]

pretty sure that's just a failure to send

and not an automodding

[rancid geyser]

aaah good

[thorn cedar]

FGS feeds Maelefic Momentum

yeah see

[dusk timber]

Maelefic

[thorn cedar]

i know which words do get automodded and i wont bother using them

[rancid geyser]

is that not the right spelling?

did i do a nono?

[thorn cedar]

Malefic

Maelstrom

Malefic

two different roots

[main crow]

https://tenor.com/view/minor-spelling-mistake-gif-21179057

[dusk timber]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-star-minor-s-spongebob-spongebob-meme-spongebob-squarepants-gif-10940848928744248792

[spiral minnow]

and i was wondering why i am getting shreded by gunners... forgot to upgrade psyker curios xD
for meleeker, what would u advice? curioswise

[rancid geyser]

fair

[rancid geyser]

Emphatic Evasion?

[thorn cedar]

Empathic

[royal falcon]

+20% chance of curio as mission reward instead of weapon ‼️

[rancid geyser]

i am going to explode!

lmao

STAHP

[dusk timber]

+15%*

[spiral minnow]

before i get to them i got few times shreded in coridor

[thorn cedar]

i did that one for a long time

[royal falcon]

wrong gif

fuckit I give up

[rancid geyser]

THE DYSLEXIA IS KICKING IN

[royal falcon]

meleeker uhhhh

[rancid geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/fetal-position-futurama-bender-robot-nervous-gif-3911608

[royal falcon]

I think you can throw in a block efficiency

[spiral minnow]

i had 3 curios for my old build, played like 2 years ago, and got some curios now at 400+, didnt have plasteel for ugprades, got it from event now, so i can finaly upgrade those .)

[dusk timber]

Gunner resist, toughness, ability cooldown

[rancid geyser]

^

and if you are kind

fit 24% revive speed

[dusk timber]

Curio meta is something i dont really know much

[spiral minnow]

revive speed, got it

i have it on my HS, it is nice .)

[cosmic cobalt]

revive speed is clutch in havoc

[dusk timber]

Diamantine is a lot more of a problem for me than plasteel ever will lol

[spiral minnow]

anyway, it sucks 17% toughness is gamble at 420 and sure only at 430, if i got it right?

so 16% is my max... that 1% will be missed .)

[spiral minnow]

i always had problem with plasteel, i am just casual and after getting back to the game, all my plasteel was gone after getting some thigns to 500 for HS .)

[dusk timber]

I have like 3 separate screenshots of me having literally 0 diamantine

[rancid geyser]

only if you want to be kind to others

[rancid geyser]

plasteel is always an issue for me

[royal falcon]

max out revive speed just to barrel all your allies off a cliff

[rancid geyser]

the extra 1-3% isnt neccessary btw

[rancid geyser]

tf did you spend it on?

[thorn cedar]

ima try to illisi

[rancid geyser]

my fave Force Sword

[dusk timber]

Upgrading weapons?

[rancid geyser]

also the worst probably

[thorn cedar]

i have never loved it tbh

[rancid geyser]

upgrading weapons is more plasteel intensive

am i missing something?

[dusk timber]

Yeah but i have a fuckton more plasteel than diamantine

[jovial juniper]

I'm out here stroking my illisi
I got warp energy on my sword rn

[rancid geyser]

HOW?!

[thorn cedar]

she stroke on my illisi til i warp on her heretics

[rancid geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/emilia-clarke-gen-gif-25048243

[dusk timber]

Idk

[spiral minnow]

base CDs are kinda low, should i dis combat ability cd and get revive instead of that one?

or rather instead of toughness

[dusk timber]

Psyker is one of the classes that benefits the most from spamming their abilities off cooldown

[rancid geyser]

nah the spamming is worth it

12% cdr is very useful

the aura can be swapped out every now and then

usually when there are 2 psykers though

[dusk timber]

Im pretty sure plasteel is just way more common than diamantine in mission pickups

And events give out a lot more plasteel

[rancid geyser]

iight lemme log in rq

[royal falcon]

minding your business heading from point A to point B and the psyker is constantly going on about the daemons or whatever

[frail oar]

Yea there's just more plasteel offered

[rancid geyser]

because plasteel is so much more needed 🙁

[dusk timber]

That 4k diamantine from events just evaporates almost immediately

[rancid geyser]

i have NEVER ran out of diamantine

ive been broke on plasteel multiple times

and i STILL need like 38k more

[rancid geyser]

nah fam

what are you doing?!

how is the diamantine gone?!

[dusk timber]

Upgrading my weapons

Getting weapons to 500 and orange rating easily costs thousands of diamantine

[rancid geyser]

maybe the diamantine ive got is overflow from before they changed the weapon system to mastery?

[frail oar]

STRAIT OF HORMUZ GOT BRO FUCKED UP

Gotta get ur money right

[rancid geyser]

i have never known of a diamantine deficit

[dusk timber]

I fucking envy you

[rancid geyser]

NEVER

i need the plasteel especially for maxing out the weapons i havent

[dusk timber]

And i need diamantine for upgrading my weapons to max rating+orange

[rancid geyser]

but for leveling weapons

the 1st 2 upgrades are only plasteel

[dusk timber]

Why are you getting the second upgrade

[rancid geyser]

legit more plasteel intensive

[dusk timber]

You just get them to green

Then sacrifice

[rancid geyser]

i was responding to the comment about upgrading to orange earlier

most of the cost is plasteel

and that's why i never run out of diamantine

[dusk timber]

And i have way more plasteel than i do diamantine

[rancid geyser]

me thinks you dont pick up any

lmao

i dont either

but the over flows from the old days made it that way

[dusk timber]

I pick up all the diamantine i find

[rancid geyser]

i could be staring at the faintest blue glow and still ignore it

[dusk timber]

And every single mission i end up getting way more plasteel than diamantine

Because its just that much more common

[cosmic cobalt]

just play havoc

[rancid geyser]

but that takes forever to get the rewards

also kinda unfair to be telling people who might need the upgrades to go into that gamemode

for them and the people whod have to play with them

havoc with bad rolled weapons is a nightmare imo

[thorn cedar]

ok i did not vibe very much with the illisi lmao

very dull moveset

EXTREMELY dull, even

[rancid geyser]

it's a horde clear mark varient

i like my melee to be used for horde clear

[thorn cedar]

well im trying to slot in a weapon for a particular build

i sorta hoped illisi might be my guy not nah

[rancid geyser]

i dont like the other marks too much because if im on a staff that doesnt deal with hordes too well i need a melee i can fall back on

[rancid geyser]

nah, illisi is too specialized for cleaving at head height imo. I think that's why most ppl dont like it

[dusk timber]

Thats just EK

[rancid geyser]

well it's my stance on any class to be fair. If my range weapon cant cover hordes, my melee has to

[thorn cedar]

in this case EP smite does the hordes

like four-five second pulse is plenty and then the weapon comes out

[rancid geyser]

then you 10000% want something other than illisi

[thorn cedar]

i suppose the real conondrum is that i want to stop putting the deimos in ALL of my builds

[rancid geyser]

FGS?

that poke on FGS is pretty meaty

[thorn cedar]

too slow

plus the charge is wasted in the kit because ep smite

ok for rager hordes tho ill give it that

[rancid geyser]

can't you just kill ragers with EP Smite though?

[thorn cedar]

anyone remember illisi cleave values lol

i could but that's fucken boring