#psyker-class

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rancid geyser
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aaah XD

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depending on the set up 3 crushers die in 1 clip of the needle gun if you weave in a melee

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like 2 shots each crusher and a heavy to the dome

deft stump
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Was why counting number of hits is easy.

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I shot everything else already.

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It's 2-3 hits on smaller targets if no crits.

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Of course trying scum on 300+ ping was already a terrible idea.

rancid geyser
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anything on 300 ping

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lmao

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my brain would legit melt playing at that latency

deft stump
zealous wing
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melee psyker also isnt bad at 500 ping

rancid geyser
zealous wing
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(i had been kidnapped to an aus server)

rancid geyser
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said 3 seconds latency was too little lets surpass 4

zealous wing
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long as you know your weapons its not that much different

dusk timber
deft stump
dusk timber
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Wrong reply

zealous wing
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just be more cautious of ping related things like snipers and trappers,

dusk timber
zealous wing
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but overall it went fine

deft stump
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And having to clutch till server DCs me so they lost after I picked them all up.

rancid geyser
deft stump
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So the weirdo with 500 ping was the only reason we have not lost yet.

rancid geyser
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each 100 is 10% of a second

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my brain melts at those speeds, too used to playing fast games

deft stump
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And moment I get DC, I load into a loss screen.

rancid geyser
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like anything past 200 ping makes it near impossible to react to things on screen

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it's all pre planning

zealous wing
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ye

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attack pattern check

deft stump
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You guess shit and hope you guess right.

rancid geyser
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gambling is fun šŸ™‚

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not when it comes to overheads though

deft stump
zealous wing
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overheads are easy to predict tho

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huge windup

deft stump
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Unless red stimmed crushers.

rancid geyser
zealous wing
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idk, the 500 ping game went well enough i'd be fine doing it again

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i still got top damage, and i wasnt with dumbasses

rancid geyser
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diff breed my guy, did you check your ears for leackage afterwards?

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brain matter is to be preserved

zealous wing
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nah it was just knowing the enemy attack patterns and knowing where my FGS actually is, not what i saw go out

deft stump
rancid geyser
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lmao

deft stump
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I just panic anyway.

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More internal panicking than external.

rancid geyser
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i also use EK, at that ping i legit wouldnt be able to hit a soul

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lmao

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0 ability with predictive aim

deft stump
rancid geyser
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m1*

deft stump
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It actually hits.... nvm.

rancid geyser
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even m2 requires some aim

deft stump
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Altfire works.

rancid geyser
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yeah but you still have to aim it

deft stump
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I know, I used to tank DH for ppl for MM on 300+ ping on an EK meme tank build.

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Hold block for like 3 mins afk.

zealous wing
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EK and DH tanking have nothing to do with eachother

deft stump
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Unless you roll one infront of spawn.

zealous wing
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and, if youre the one tanking the DH that usually means youre the one who aggroed her

zealous wing
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which means, you arent fighting while kiting

deft stump
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It's on purpose.

rancid geyser
deft stump
zealous wing
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its not who halfwoke her up, its who woke her up the rest of the way, and if someone dies, she takes them

rancid geyser
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no, i get that, in this situation its me legit triggering her but leaving the range

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had it happen earler

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where i triggered her, ran and she went to someone else

deft stump
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The DoT will likely trigger her when she is in alert.

dire wharf
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What happens if you aggro a DH just as your elevator door closes

zealous wing
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tbf a DH is only usually woken up in my group right before she dies

deft stump
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Everyone eats corruption.

rancid geyser
deft stump
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Do note if she gets in before you hit the button, you can't use it. So...

rancid geyser
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^

dire wharf
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On 9/10, gonna try and 10/10 on hab dreyko

deft stump
rancid geyser
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lemme join! LET ME LEECH!

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i need 3 more event clears XD

dire wharf
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I'm too bad to leech off!

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I died once but we did it whatthefuck_heresy

rancid geyser
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i just had 1 run with only 1 person going down

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you sure it wasnt the same run?

dire wharf
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< trenchreznor

white sky
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I saw you earlier actually

rancid geyser
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my psyker name is Agni

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we probably didnt run into each other, just a coincidence

white sky
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i went "haha, neat, NIN fan"

dire wharf
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That's me

frail oar
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You need more for event?

rancid geyser
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the queues are dead!

frail oar
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Yah its ruff

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You can add me i cant do comms

rancid geyser
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and the groups i get so far have just been me carrying

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not that its the worst

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but they have been some slow missions

frail oar
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It feels like the non event spawns are weak or something

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Had a dreyko that was nothing then everything at the last event

rancid geyser
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as soon as we hit the ledge and dropped we got surrounded by armour XD

frail oar
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Sent you a rq

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The pipe at the end of dreyko is dangerous sometimes 30 crushers drop down

thorn cedar
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Event dreyko is canonical

jovial juniper
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It's raining Ragers šŸ—£ļø

rancid geyser
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it's when i cant shoot past the bulwarks to get them

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or have to quell XD

thorn cedar
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not being able to quell huh, cant say i relate

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cuz my mind, you see

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my mind is in motion

rancid geyser
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i would take it if i wasnt hell bent on maximizing my damage on EK

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and i kinda quell to stay topped up on toughness every now and then

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usually i have anticipation but i swapped trees XD so no dodge kiting

thorn cedar
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other ways to quell anyway

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i actually found uh

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purloin providence

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if your accuracy is already like 80%

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or something idk im making that number up

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but its actually kinda legit

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i still wouldnt take it

jovial juniper
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Mythical Purloin Providence pull

thorn cedar
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but its the one slim band of gameplay i found where it fucken works tbh

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your left click is already pretty cheap, it can kill immediately on a crit, you're ranged so picking out the blue targets is already easy and a given

zealous wing
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some psyker kidnapped my dog

thorn cedar
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yes beloved, it is a pretty doggo

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but yeah it starts to fall into BCoB territory

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where it's quelling too good for you and you can't work your peril talents

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except it doesn't do that consistently

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so yeah

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purloin providence is a less consistent by crack of bone
guess that's my big take

rancid geyser
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BRO

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DT PLAYER ARE SO DAMN WEIRD

kind jay
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what did dt player do this time

radiant frigate
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everything and nothing

zealous wing
kind jay
rancid geyser
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i could screen shot what we had to deal with

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short answer rascism

zealous wing
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report filed?

rancid geyser
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ofc

kind jay
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they were talking about nascar?

rancid geyser
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bro started from since the pre ame screen

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and decided to troll us from the very get go

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i voted to kick but i dont think too many ppl know that's an option

zealous wing
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was bro named dred

rancid geyser
zealous wing
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another friend of mine was subjected to similar behaviour just a little earlier today

kind jay
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huh that looks familiar

lilac jacinth
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Looks like he could snap my neck in a instant

hoary vapor
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hold on

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is electro staff just smite if it wasnt completely garbagge

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i tried it and it actually like, does damage

jovial juniper
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No no
Ek is smite if it was garbage

hoary vapor
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my bad

jovial juniper
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Anyways Ek is a gambler's dream

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Your shock damage varies between 600 and 6000 (figuratively)

hoary vapor
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?!

jovial juniper
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And the second target will always take less than 300 damage

hoary vapor
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so it's still ass

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and i have to be an m1 bot still

jovial juniper
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Not really

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M2 is pretty good at picking off targets

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If you put maniacs with a few DD stacks you get rager 1 shot possibility

fathom adder
jovial juniper
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True

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Anyways Ek has good single target damage

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Be it M1 or M2

hoary vapor
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yeah crit m1 is insane

cosmic cobalt
jovial juniper
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Ek likes critical damage

cosmic cobalt
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since ek m2 can't hit weakspot and dd is specifically damage and FINESSE damage

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not crit damage

jovial juniper
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It's damage, critical and weakspot

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Besides

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Finesse is also critical damage

cosmic cobalt
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oh yeah it have crit damage

jovial juniper
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And because Ek has 21% CRIT chance innate

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It is capable of shitting out crits

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Ek M2 is just a little bit too inconsistent

hoary vapor
hoary vapor
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gah but what about that 1 in a million chance

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i could hit it

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i gotta go for it

jovial juniper
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True

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Ek is almost perfect
I love it

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But c'mon

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Just 1 nudge in the right direction

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Oh and in case you don't know

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Specialists and Elites are usually taller than horde fodder

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So you can target them with M2 by aiming above the horde

hoary vapor
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i wnna verify this

jovial juniper
hoary vapor
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interesting

rich spindle
jovial juniper
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1 zap too many though

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I'll probably set up a demo video with the 1 shot later

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I also need to roll some ek staff

crisp ether
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Probably one of the worst teammates I've had in my h40 like, ever too

cosmic cobalt
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arby racism in havoc is well justified

rich spindle
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I miss the console arbs in party finder

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They are a dying breed

woven sentinel
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Best blessings for DS?

zealous wing
woven sentinel
zealous wing
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hmm maybe he didnt finish them yet

deft stump
zealous wing
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@ripe obsidian

deft stump
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It's the Vet guide but Path's been adding some other class things.

woven sentinel
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Thankyouu

deft stump
crisp ether
cosmic cobalt
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no agile

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why shred over riposte

deft stump
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Only order is Uncanny at Tier 0, rest are Tier 1.

cosmic cobalt
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I mean as in why do you want shred over riposte

crisp ether
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Or someone who can last like a half an hour clutching

deft stump
urban meteor
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I've seen this video of a guy doing BR Psyker with sphere shield, does anyone else do this?

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Because from where I see it, it'd be better to either have the other shield, for 2 on demand Resonances

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or Shriek

royal falcon
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Ay fellas what am I supposed to be looking for when making a soulblaze build

rancid geyser
rancid geyser
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m2 is uuuh, not perfered imo

marble crater
rancid geyser
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Brain Rupture + Kinetic Flayer

rancid geyser
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just free kill synergy

rancid geyser
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the slam

hoary vapor
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i thouht

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mneyeh

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no crit on m1 right ?

rancid geyser
hoary vapor
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im only pretending to know anyways im not a staff player

rancid geyser
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both builds are

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+20% crit from warp nexus and +20% from Scriers Gaze, base 21% i think

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at base + scriers you should sit just under 50% crit which you need because a lot of the damage come from the extra shot

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like ~~48.5% ~~ 53.5% iirc

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crit aura is kinda valid for EK imo, i still take cdr though

hoary vapor
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voidblast or whatever

rancid geyser
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uuh ive seen a few different blessing combos and builds for that one

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not one i use much though so maybe someone else can input on it

formal dew
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What's the best FSword mark?

rancid geyser
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Waveclear > Illisi imo

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Armour > Deimos

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I just do not like the Obscurus

verbal thistle
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Obscure has better single target but less stagger and harder comboes

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It's the only one I use

rancid geyser
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i've tried using the obscurus on crushers and the damage always leaves me wanting

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only means of doing meaningful damage into them with it is heavy > block/light > heavy doesnt do much without critting from my experience

hearty geyser
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i find the 2nd attack spam on ek staff works wonders on crushers, but ive yet to play anything beyond base auric

rancid geyser
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though i wouldnt recommend some of the talent choices

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building super squishy just to kill them faster

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also with no stacks of WarpSiphon or Disrupt Destiny

formal dew
hearty geyser
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im just getting back into the game after a long hiatus so my gameplay is fairly basic, also how are you getting the numbers and healthbars?

formal dew
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Give them a quick zap of smite, then pop scriers and charge in lol

rancid geyser
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psykhanium

hearty geyser
formal dew
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speaking of, the movement perk on scriers is absolutely amazing for me

rich spindle
formal dew
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Fear the psyker that can close distance

rancid geyser
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heavy into block or light

rich spindle
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Oops

rancid geyser
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they both loop it

hearty geyser
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i just palpatine em and tom tucker slow walk towards em, then the sword starts swingin

formal dew
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So the Illisi fsword special is a discount Psword slash

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It's not too bad

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It's a bit shit against carapace though

zealous wing
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"a bit"

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poor illisi

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it sucks ASS against carapace

rancid geyser
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^

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pretty much just use it for horde clear

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heavy > light

deft stump
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So Fatshark broke the valk ramp thing again. I got stuck under it again.

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11/10. Fixed it last patch, gets broken after latest hotfix.

pale prairie
deft stump
pale prairie
deft stump
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I wonder if they used AI to hotfix their game with how many bugs.

deft stump
pale prairie
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Input issues and spawn rates I guess?

deft stump
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I had 3-4x the spawns in EVERYTHING.

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That isn't event.

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Makes it brutal to solo.

formal dew
pale prairie
pale prairie
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Lmao

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It explains why it felt so fucking good for a while there

deft stump
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Like, it's a buff nobody thought we needed but it made smokes more viable.

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In the fun way.

pale prairie
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Ooooooooooof

deft stump
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And then they fix it by breaking so much shit.

deft stump
pale prairie
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Oh shit my nemesis is back

deft stump
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Where you can't shoot them at all.

pale prairie
deft stump
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The best you can do Is throw a grenade back blind.

fluid pulsar
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testing

deft stump
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Or well, find a way to escape from the map because they are throwing from outside the map.

fluid pulsar
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Why does this Discord channel requires our local phone number? its really odd

pale prairie
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Ugh bomber hunting is back on the menu

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Huh mine doesn’t

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I mean I don’t

deft stump
pale prairie
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Europe?

fluid pulsar
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SEA

pale prairie
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Weird I am NA and don’t need to

deft stump
fluid pulsar
fluid pulsar
honest viper
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I love pysker

fluid pulsar
honest viper
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Psyker focus on horde good

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Pysker bubble good

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Good on hav40

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Love pysker

deft stump
honest viper
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Squish but good

main crow
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Reject bubble, embrace vent

dire wharf
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Reject vent, embrace scriers gaze

pale prairie
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Reject abilities, embrace emptiness

main crow
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I really should give Scrier’s Gaze a shot, especially since I’m using EK staff

pale prairie
dire wharf
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Reject rejects, embrace Admonition

pale prairie
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The only downside to EK staff on SGs is that hordeclear is a little harder than just shrieking with creeping flames

main crow
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I use FGS too so if the horde gets close it doesn’t really matter

haughty walrus
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Guys what level can I spec into inferno bubble? I am current using assail for leveling.

night moat
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I dunno, just keep playing

main crow
hoary vapor
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That’s why I liked smoke

pale prairie
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Same

main crow
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Just be immune to ranged damage. KEKW_ogryn

teal copper
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Why is arby toughness regen so boob

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If you try to do anything other than melee you go down almost instantly

wind spruce
crisp ether
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And you're getting toughness back.

obtuse dome
pale prairie
crisp ether
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Understand that heavy breathing on this class gives you toughness back. it's so dumb

fluid pulsar
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As a psyker main, i have to say psyker is objectively the best class in the game and i am completely biased about it no shame.

radiant frigate
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no lie detected

teal copper
rancid geyser
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''Empty the mind''

plucky flax
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Why is my warp unbound timer not working? NOOOOOOO

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I played a round of surge surge without auto fire and warp unbound timer that was hell.

rancid geyser
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mods?

long saddle
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did you patch the game for mods again

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there was a hotfix yesterday

plucky flax
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I did yeah my other mods work.

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But the timer just doesn't show up.

long saddle
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I haven't played psyker since update, but my auto fire seemed fine on other classes

plucky flax
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I just forgot to enable auto fire is all.

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:p

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But yeah no warp unbound timer is rough.

rancid geyser
plucky flax
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There were 2 psykers. I was on surge surge, other guy was on gaze blaze trauma. The ogryn guy typed in chat '2 psykers and no bubble' after he died.

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Veri sad.

earnest furnace
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That ogryn was being very unkind, dude deadass blames you for his lack of dealing with range

rancid geyser
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why do players not play around cover if gunners are an issue?

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i've always wondered this

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or you know as the ogryn, they could have gone shield + taunt on block

earnest furnace
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Theres some maps where cover is hard to get. Or often times theres already waves of poxxers blocking the way to cover

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Also ogryn just have it hard, they can only use big cover

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Things like crates are too small for them to hid behind

rancid geyser
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yeah ive played oggy on h40

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i dont like making excuses for ppl

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even worse when they complain to others

rancid geyser
plucky flax
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I got warp unbound timer working now.

earnest furnace
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Well yhea, but 5/6 available classes are not ogryn

plucky flax
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Was the latest update of custom hud messing with my ui

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That ogryn player wasn't bad. He was shield but was faily aggressive and knew how to taunt well. Just got in a bad place with too many shooters and I guess he ran out of stam.

wind spruce
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@plucky flax i use combat ability timer now, gives you a timer for warp unbound and more

plucky flax
earnest furnace
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Ok well thats fair, but it was still unkind to complain about no bubble shield. You shouldnt expect other people to build a certain way. You should only expect them to play well and watch your back

wind spruce
plucky flax
subtle fern
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do i keep upgrading: Inferno staff 440 rating, everything maxed but 73/80 cloud and 33/60 warp resistance

autumn smelt
subtle fern
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what point do you want to stop upgrading warp resistancfe when your trade off is like quel

rancid geyser
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like on EK it makes 1 shot cost 4 [4.25%] peril instead of 5 [4.75%] at 60 and 80 warp res

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on inferno i dont think you should want to keep warp res low but i can also check the diff outside of dumping it

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inferno wants to loop m1 for CC and still uses m2 for hordes

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less time spent quelling the easier it is to use

radiant frigate
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so you do want low warp res

quartz barn
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You can literally get 3 fully charged m2s between 80-100 peril and then reset by queliing for 2 sec max

cosmic cobalt
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it not even 2s lol

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like 2 tick of tap

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also you don't want to charge inferno anyway

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it does nothing

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spamming m2 is enough

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and you can get max blaze away stack in 2 m2 tsp

long saddle
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half a charge is usually enough

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one useful thing about a big charge tho is that I think you can hold it at 100% for a bit longer if you need to

cosmic cobalt
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there zero benefit to charging up inferno though

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just spam m2

long saddle
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wdym m2

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m2 is the charge

cosmic cobalt
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yeah im talking about there no reason to hold and charge inferno m2

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so just spam it

quartz barn
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???

icy breach
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Thats hyper pepe moment right there

quartz barn
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Blaze away wasted i guess

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You literally charge m2 and just afk

icy breach
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Or better

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Warp flurry

quartz barn
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Pls no ive seen enough pen flames psykers in h40

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Super sad too because trauma is much more enjoyable to me but without purg most teams just cant clear

icy breach
zealous wing
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too many things better

quartz barn
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So im like pogryn another psyk on the team and they run purg

dusk timber
icy breach
quartz barn
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But they have fucking pen flame while i have rending trauma

zealous wing
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rending trauma shriek

icy breach
zealous wing
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six found it still strong as fuck

long saddle
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rending trauma shriek is so good in the event

icy breach
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Some ppl play on console (poor sods)

long saddle
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I've not tried rending trauma SG yet

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too spicy

icy breach
icy breach
quartz barn
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Then again idk what the current state of havoc is atm because i already have all penances from it

quartz barn
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I either do exp or mortis now for remaining penances

long saddle
quartz barn
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Also just dont play as much anymore so tryharding in havoc is kinda eh

icy breach
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I played a total of 11 games there

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Its that bad

icy breach
quartz barn
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Ye i didnt play it at first at all, basically started when i finished up game clears on arbi

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Also free with the auto exploding dog lmao

icy breach
quartz barn
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Solo tank 3 dhs chadgryn

plucky flax
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Rank 29 havoc bossing. pepesurrender

zealous wing
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my money is on first death

loud girder
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Don't revive him because you're not specced to revive

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Do your job!

cosmic cobalt
summer prairie
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@plucky flax your lobby host is rude

wraith sphinx
quartz barn
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Inb4 someone goes down on purpose and poor boi cant get the rez off

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And then he flames the team for not covering thumbsup_ogryn

plucky flax
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Wanna play a round?

summer prairie
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yes

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what was that host even waiting for

plucky flax
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A veteran I think. I was alt tabbing doing stuff.

summer prairie
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oh ogryn greed

plucky flax
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Didn't realise I was in a lobby waiting it's been so long. Xd

summer prairie
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I think he sat there for 20+ minutes at 3/4, waiting for a vet

deft stump
plucky flax
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Gg gotta go haircut.

deft stump
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It seems to work with multiple vets with survivalist though.

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But not for the vet if only one.

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A.k.a. bots might be worth more than a trash player atm.

dire wharf
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Event match with 4 psykers

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This should be interesting

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Bonus points if everyone is loner

deft stump
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Classic easiest game or hardest game you ever played.

dire wharf
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3 of us down chadgryn

deft stump
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RIP.

kind jay
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i like the event. needs more crusher walls tho

dire wharf
# deft stump RIP.

So the dude clutched and got us all back! Sadly we wiped at the very end during extraction

kind jay
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actually now that i think about it, a lot of enemies don't seem to have blobs in the event. 30 ragers is whatever. where's 30 trappers?

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30 snipers would be fun too. y'all remember when ventilation first came out? room full of red lights

vestal hinge
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how do i tell when my scriers gaze has ended so i dont explode myself at max peril

thorn cedar
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It makes a sound.

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Do it in the Psyk and listen for it.

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It's also got an icon on the tooltip tray on the bottom of your screen.

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You're also self-explodey immune for 1.5s after it ends.

dusk timber
vestal hinge
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i see it now

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thx

thorn cedar
frail oar
deft stump
dusk timber
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Teammate kills will still proc it when its on cooldown right

deft stump
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As in, I just whack hordes of actual chaff and let someone else focus elites/specials.

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They also never ran out of ammo shooting 95% of the time.

dusk timber
#

Waow

deft stump
#

And this is expeditions.

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There are no ammo pickups.

dusk timber
#

Ye surv screws over that part of expeditions design

deft stump
#

Oh, they are also on gunker.

#

So no desperado bs.

#

XD

deft stump
#

Normal is still okay.

#

This is hilarious.

cosmic cobalt
#

what the fuck is desperado

#

šŸ—£ļø

dusk timber
#

one of the active abilities of the hive scum class

#

hope this helps!

royal falcon
#

playing inferno psyker in the open sections of No Man's Land

ripe obsidian
#

GET OVER HERE SO I CAN BURN YOU, COWARDS

royal falcon
#

at least that can be offset somewhat with brain burst

kind jay
#

yeah but sometimes you just wanna burn a mofo

royal falcon
#

add a talent where brain bursting an enemy adds a gorillion stacks of soulblaze

kind jay
#

this is why we need a telekinesis staff

#

i will spend 30 seconds bringing a single dude over to you so you can be petty and burn them

rapid inlet
#

brought it through h40 and it worked well

rancid geyser
#

not sure how sensitive to color people's eyes are but It's Blue Green with waves of Purple while it is active and a muted Blue-Green color when lingering, both around the edge of the screen

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I wish i could say you could just pay attention to the movement on the edge of the screen but there are talents that have their own effect around the edges as well. Though the other effect is feinter and moves slower. Asking people to have that much acuity to detail is a bit much, my peripherals are pretty wide so it's easy for me to notice

pale prairie
#

I mean you can just keep an eye on the red SG buff icon as it goes down

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Or mod

thorn cedar
#

idk the audio cue is plenty

thorn cedar
#

as is the giant glowing red 100% in the dead center of my screen

#

usually another decent indicator

pale prairie
rancid geyser
thorn cedar
#

I SWEAR THIS RARELY HAPPENS

spice aurora
#

who wants to play h40 I have my laptop and trackpad and airplane wifi rn

rancid geyser
#

and audio is another thing, but i personally think the details on the edge fo the screen is good enough

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especially for ppl who play while jamming to music

pale prairie
thorn cedar
#

the buff bar is really good now actually

rancid geyser
pale prairie
rancid geyser
#

yeah, went from modless because i don't really like them to not being able to use them if i want to keep my sanity

#

no more enhanced descriptions šŸ™

thorn cedar
#

who needs enhanced descriptions

#

just read kuli guides before bed every night until you have an encyclopedic understanding of every talent in the game

rancid geyser
#

it's just nice to have the info, dont really need it

abstract hedge
rancid geyser
#

like leakage?

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cause i doubt it's a space issue

#

i even elevate the game to high priority via task manager

royal falcon
thorn cedar
#

vibestide is so 2023

abstract hedge
#

I don't know enough of the technical details to give your a proper explanation but I do know that increasing my RAM has consistently fixed performance issues with this game, especially when mods are involved

rancid geyser
thorn cedar
#

leakage = used RAM is not reallocated correctly and you eventually run out of memory leading to the program terminating

rancid geyser
royal falcon
#

all I need to know is how many icons I have on the bottom left of my screen

the more I have the more geeked out I a- gets crushed overheaded

thorn cedar
#

which idk

#

if i had a leakage that was killing the game every thirty minutes that would honestly piss me off

rancid geyser
thorn cedar
#

but instead with darktide i get one crash if i leave it open for six hours

rancid geyser
#

fun times

thorn cedar
#

which is more like a "wow i should really get up and do something"

abstract hedge
#

I do get occasional memory leaks but only if I've had the game going for a good 5-6 hours

thorn cedar
#

yep

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and i could care less lmao

rancid geyser
#

with mods i'm lucky if i even get to 2hrs before boom

#

2-3 runs max before it implodes

thorn cedar
#

the worst is if im doing a lot of business in my inventory

#

i suspect that every single weapon in your inventory is loaded individually

#

cause if i do a lot of that it tends to crash out in a couple hours instead

abstract hedge
#

Oh yeah, anything that affects your menus seems to do it worse than anything else

thorn cedar
#

thankfully im so far beyond that

#

melted down anything under 500 score

#

and i got nothing to do

#

other than wonderful purging

rancid geyser
# thorn cedar

FS could add some super expensive cosmetics that actually look nice for ppl with that much time investment

#

but that would be asking them to do something good and nice for the community

thorn cedar
#

id rather they just let me dump it on people in the mourningstar

abstract hedge
#

Yeah, imagine being able to spend in-game currencies

fresh panther
#

New players installing true level mod just to see who to single out skulltroll

thorn cedar
#

oh tru

#

had not considered

frail oar
#

Imagine if these materials still had a purpose

rancid geyser
#

6

frail oar
#

Any new weapons that come out i can buy Greys consecrate them and then sacrifice for max mastery. Feels good man.

rancid geyser
#

i think im about 34k plasteel away from doing that

#

i think it was like 15k or slightly less to max out a new weapon

frail oar
#

*Gundalf

deft stump
abstract hedge
#

They are, yeah

deft stump
#

Is why turning off karking avatars helps. Just static full models with a camera focused on the head.

abstract hedge
#

It's how they display the cosmetics: rather than having an image of each variation of a weapon it just loads a static model into the thumbnail

thorn cedar
#

yea and it seems to clog up resource to do it

#

like i can do ten runs encountering 2-3,000 enemies per match before i hit out of memory, or i can spend thirty minutes in my inventory for the same effect

#

computers are weird

deft stump
thorn cedar
#

idk, i think that's just the lazy response to everything tbh

deft stump
#

Throwing in blight and rot tanks it even faster.

#

Do you like playing at 4 FPS?

#

Blight+Rot.

thorn cedar
#

only just noticed you can see a spray of tox flying off the cleaver when you swing it

deft stump
thorn cedar
#

seems dangerous

deft stump
#

They do details well... Optimization, nope.

thorn cedar
#

that they ever got this shit running havocs on an XBox, i give them a pass

rancid geyser
#

most games do that

#

even poorly optimized ones

thorn cedar
#

yea just makes you wonder why the item icons are all unique

#

im sure the answer is something borderline nonsensical but ultimately insignificant

#

like the memory leak thing, what % of the player base is even keeping their game open long enough for this to be a problem?
what % is players running unsupported mods that exacerbate the issue?
it's probably like .1% for the first question and within that .1%, like 90% modified their game so it's not really up to fatshark at that point

#

and i sure as hell wouldnt dedicate resources to fixing that issue either

rancid geyser
#

well its been at thing since the early days, and im sure they never truely found to problem

#

pretty much just patched up most of the holes on a sinking ship

#

tbh issues like that can actually make a game unplayable if they change enough things in 1 patch

#

like when they did the talent tree rework [introduced them to the game]

abstract hedge
#

I do think the memory thing is a case of not enough people having issues for them to actually deal with it, but in an ideal world they would care enough about giving the game a strong foundation that they would fix it to prevent and potential issues in future

#

We do not, however, live in an ideal world

#

Optimisation and proper bug fixing gets shot down in favour of patch jobs and rushed content

thorn cedar
#

i too would prefer they give me more content than fix some bespoke user error experienced by ten whole nerds on a discord

earnest furnace
#

Maxing out warp resistance so i can hold down smite for 30 seconds (i will die if even a single poxwalker backstabs me)

zealous wing
#

at least youre self aware that youd be helpless

#

and useless

thorn cedar
#

i saw an absolute gem today of a smyker

#

fire staff, bubble, smite, dueling sword with the dodge reset blessing

#

and five wounds

zealous wing
#

cw?

abstract hedge
thorn cedar
#

guy was complete trash but he still tried his best, presumably

abstract hedge
#

I've been wanting new missions for ages but instead we got expeditions, which feels half-baked

zealous wing
#

not even half

thorn cedar
#

thats cause it is half-baked

#

turns out not all content will be geared specifically to your interests

#

mortis was a gigantic flop to me

zealous wing
#

tech remnant reset completely killed what little tolerance i had for the mode

abstract hedge
#

Oh, Mortis is straight dog

thorn cedar
#

i actually like expeditions but the split lobbies is a baffling choice that restricts it

abstract hedge
#

I do enjoy expeditions well enough, but it needed a lot more work put into it before I'd be satisfied with getting that instead of just new missions

thorn cedar
#

i'd still take another expeditions/mortis over a slew of minor bug fixes just to hear the same people complain that fatshark cant code lmao

rancid geyser
abstract hedge
#

I really do just want a new set of campaign missions more than anything else they want to cook up

thorn cedar
#

we're all just waiting on new classes anyway

#

nah they made expeditions cause they wanted to

rancid geyser
#

1st Vampire Survivor then Helldivers

thorn cedar
#

nobody was pushing for it because nobody even knew what it was before it came out

abstract hedge
#

If Hive Scum is anything to go by, I'm not sure I want a new class

rancid geyser
#

at least the map design could be used as new tech

thorn cedar
#

same with VT2 PvP, which is as far as flops go was the floppiest of flops

#

just a massive waste of time

#

but they did it cause they wanted to do it and im sure they at least learned some lessons moving forward with other productions

rancid geyser
#

.>

thorn cedar
#

lmao

rancid geyser
#

cash shop > everything else

thorn cedar
#

PvP brought in like

#

maybe 1,000 people

#

and they evaporated immediately

#

they didnt do it for cash or anything

#

i mean if they ever intended to do it, why wait five fucken years when the game is borderline dead and DarkTide was already peaking?

#

nah they just wanted to do it

#

its also their first real foray into PvP on the engine

#

im sure it was instructive more than anything and gave them an excuse to pull user metrics for design choices moving forward

icy breach
icy breach
thorn cedar
#

they really put effort into it

#

new animations for the rats, making new areas on old maps, balancing, structure, voice overs, etc.

#

it was not cobbled together loosely, they really did try

#

i dont think anybody at the studio was surprised that it flopped completely

#

it came like four years too late and unlike L4D it's not like VT was designed to be PvP originally and then became PvE

#

so frankly the only reason to do it was because they wanted to

verbal thistle
#

posting this again so I have it for reference

#

Obscurus

thorn cedar
#

auric?

#

no DD presumably

verbal thistle
#

auric with DD

hoary vapor
frail oar
#

Do you prefer the H L repeat or H L L repeat for single target? That last stab feels good not sure its worth not looping back to heavy tho.

verbal thistle
#

H l l

hoary vapor
#

wtf does the activation even do

verbal thistle
#

its combo heavy

#

its like a chainw eapon

#

sticks to 1 target and alot of damage if you finish the animation

frail oar
#

The horde combo surprises me most reminds me of taxe 7 in terms of the flow/angles

verbal thistle
#

i think on average 2x damage to a single target

#

maybe 1.6x

hoary vapor
#

Interesting

#

I should try it

pale prairie
#

Obscurus refusing to be obscure

verbal thistle
wraith fable
#

Is Blaze Away still better than Penetrating Flame for the flame staff? What about specifically for the event?

jovial juniper
#

Yes still better
No not worth for the event

rancid geyser
cosmic cobalt
#

only crusher base armor is carapace

#

while scab mauler and scab rager base armor is flak

#

there no reason to use pen flame at all

rancid geyser
#

me thinks you misunderstood

pale prairie
#

So much FoV

hushed schooner
#

Dear everyone, why does it feel like every time I charge a brain rupture, I need a fortnight to complete the charge, and my lock on skips around like a parkinsons patient.

#

Is there some nuance to making it fit better into the flow of battle

frail oar
#

Experience

rancid geyser
#

there is an upgrade that lets you cast it faster, but I don't like it too much

long saddle
#

start charging your target and just run away or behind cover

rancid geyser
#

Brain Rupture is something to use only when in saftey outside of procing Kinetic Flayer

#

as for the target shifting you can lock onto one and then aim higher while moving your cursor to not swap the target

long saddle
#

otherwise there's a targeting mod that stops you from locking on to random pox or other non-elite stuff

jovial juniper
#

Use M2 too

#

So you don't need to recharge if the target dies beforehand

serene stream
hushed schooner
#

Do any of the stimms affect the charge time?

frail oar
#

Blue does

formal dew
hushed schooner
#

I'm gonna test, in space of time, whether a damage stimm or a celerity stimm would provide more dps against a boss with lots of hp.

#

using only brain blast.

rancid geyser
#

dps wise im pretty sure it's celerity, mostly because of how many you will actually get out over the duration

serene stream
#

Also, the talent that boosts cast speed when using blitz is also a good option to help

hushed schooner
rancid geyser
#

so iirc from testing BR counts towards weakspot hits, though im not sure if Weakspot damage modifiyers affect it

#

i know it counts towards weakspot hits because it always gives a stack of true aim

#

i have just been too lazy to check the numbers and maths to see how Disrupt destiny and Scrier's Gaze affects it

frail oar
hushed schooner
#

Does armor mean it deals more damage, like a conductor?

rancid geyser
frail oar
#

Thank Kuli!

rancid geyser
#

them too, but that response was pretty swift ngl

#

was about to go labbing

rancid geyser
# frail oar

legit explains how i can sometimes 2 tap crushers with just 2 M1 shots on EK

frail oar
#

Sometimes its flayer helping too its hard to see cos its like instant off the first bb

rancid geyser
#

lmao

#

aint no way in hell i can achieve that without flayer

#

been trying to fit Malefic Momentum in my EK build but it's hard figuring what to sacrifice. Might just have to learn to not crutch on Anticipation

thorn cedar
#

lmao

#

having old survivalist back

#

makes you wonder how this ever got in

#

not the bug but the fact that this is what survivalist used to be

#

silly

frail oar
#

Ogryns were eating back then

#

Kickback and rumbler infinite ammo

rancid geyser
#

you can even go up in ammo atm if you use point bank barrage with the bottom right keystone

#

since PBB only cares about the shots you fired for some reason

dire wharf
#

@verbal thistle you about?

#

Do you have a relic blade build you can share

verbal thistle
dire wharf
#

@verbal thistle thank you!

#

Why did you go worth wraith blessing on the mk II?

fresh panther
#

Wrath gives you cleave to handle havoc

jovial juniper
#

Wrath still shit

#

Just go Rampage

verbal thistle
#

Won't need for non havoc

#

Rampage or cranial then

winter merlin
#

I can’t upload pics to the chat to show you guys my build for the psyker

jovial juniper
#

You could try mimicking it in the games lantern build editor

#

And share the link here

#

It won't embed but it's whatever

dire wharf
crisp ether
jovial juniper
#

Wrath is shit anyways

#

So it ain't that hard

#

To think that

rancid geyser
crisp ether
#

Rampage technically gives you cleave. Not a lot but when you run the cleave talent, it's felt perfectly serviceable even into havoc

#

Also Fatshark please update the description for Rampage

#

Even though I know you won't.

winter merlin
crisp ether
#

That's it.

cursive shell
#

finally

#

now I might stop doing pugs

crisp ether
#

Ironically, it feels I get worse players generally when I have a 40

cursive shell
#

lowkey (high key) the 35-39 groups were more consistent, but the 40s were more fun

cursive shell
#

we're all shit tbh

rancid geyser
#

he carries with arms of steel

pale prairie
#

Bruh I still haven’t made it to 40 this season… I am close but taking a break for some age of mythology

#

🫃

jovial juniper
#

Yay

hushed schooner
#

There are too many brain rupture related penances

#

I am not that quick on the draw game holY

jovial juniper
#

Keep practicing until you reach "hands gameplay"

dusky crag
cursive shell
#

I did go down once during that round so fake 40 tbh

jovial juniper
#

Quick played into a normal

#

And legit looked at a horde mob like this

winter merlin
lilac jacinth
#

Hey is the file not working for anyone else or just me?

dire wharf
#

Working fine on my end

lilac jacinth
#

It might not want to work on my phone

hallow vector
#

does this apply to secondary attack too?

#

or just primary

deft stump
hallow vector
#

voidstrike

deft stump
#

Strike, yes.

hallow vector
#

POGGIES

#

but now do i. get rid of crit peril, or soulblaze

#

i think i swap out crit peril since i have other sources of crit

deft stump
#

Latter.

#

Nexus, surge or flurry. 2 of 3.

zealous wing
#

soulblaze on VS not gonna go far

hallow vector
#

i mean, if its crit build, it could double as a flame staff

deft stump
#

If you are critting, most would be dead.

#

Unless havoc.

#

We don't talk havoc for Strike though.

hallow vector
#

so this works?

#

i could replace WN with the uh

#

WF

deft stump
#

Drop crit damage.

#

Take flak or cara damage or ask Hex/Six for better.

deft stump
hallow vector
#

even with WF its pretty slow so i'd rather take higher doubleshot

deft stump
#

Either slow but crits more so double, faster but gambles more on crits to double or crits on speed but no double.

deft stump
#

It's the meta.

low merlin
zealous wing
#

this is not zealot chat

candid knot
main crow
#

I’d try Voidstrike but I really like the zappy part of EK, it’s so convenient KEKW_ogryn

coral prism
#

Does anyone have tips on how to position bubble shield?

#

Like where should I aim to put it to make it last longer

crisp ether
coral prism
#

I normally just place it surrounding a point/in front of a hallway we push through

coral prism
crisp ether
coral prism
#

Like I'm not too sure if the shield decays off of total hits or damage absorbed

crisp ether
#

Under frequent gunfire, it'll last for about six seconds.

zealous wing
#

shortest possible uptime is 6.6s

coral prism
#

Ah ok so hits based not damage based

#

So snipers/plasma gunners won't shred it as fast as gunners

zealous wing
#

its also time based

silent frigate
coral prism
zealous wing
#

but if you wanna be havoc ready, vubble as often as possible. if you have bubble, place it

#

dont wait 10s to get to the next room, you bubble

coral prism
silent frigate
coral prism
#

I'm low havoc rn only clearance 24

coral prism
zealous wing
#

havoc 40s.

you bubble as often as possible because all it takes is a moment for shit to go sideways, you want a fallback point or that bubble up if you die, to still give a pullback chance under gunfire, etc. many finer details cant go over rn

silent frigate
coral prism
#

Tbh I don't notice it usually since I get soft carried

#

I assume there's another diff spike at h30? Which is where spamming bubble matters more?

zealous wing
#

h25 is notoriously a cut off point for overall skillcheck, where youll know youre not ready

coral prism
#

My friend who pulled me into darktide told me that it's only diffspike every 10 levels

#

But the gap between 23-26 is like 2x the gap between 20-23 it felt like

silent frigate
#

its every 5

zealous wing
#

major sƄike every ten, minors in between, yes

#

spike*

coral prism
#

26 there was no respite between waves it felt like

silent frigate
coral prism
#

I guess I am very much not ready for higher havoc lol

zealous wing
#

1-10 malice
11-20 heresy
21-30 damnation
31-auric

roughly

#

but then all the modifiers

coral prism
#

I really just hate 1/2 the modifiers

silent frigate
coral prism
zealous wing
#

oof 50hrs

#

take it easy theres no rush

coral prism
coral prism
zealous wing
#

fair but damn 😭 you is baby

coral prism
crisp ether
#

that are not ready for high havoc

#

it's nothing to feel bad about.

#

It truly is just a different playfield there.

zealous wing
#

is me, im 4k hrs in and def not ready for h40 but alas i get kidnapped anyway

silent frigate
coral prism
zealous wing
#

true, that streamer guy.who gets hard carried

coral prism
#

I turn my head see a crusher and I explode

#

Some reason I don’t even get my wound 😭

zealous wing
#

oh, havoc atta ks deal xprruption

crisp ether
#

14

#

Thousand

silent frigate
crisp ether
#

Hours?

zealous wing
#

yeah he says so on his twitch so it must be true

crisp ether
#

I'm not like hallucinating that

#

Right?

#

Okay I need to see this.

silent frigate
coral prism
silent frigate
#

they one shot you

coral prism
zealous wing
#

they deal a set percentage of their attack as outright corruption, i forgor da numbers tho

coral prism
#

Makes sense

silent frigate
#

I think any crusher above 20 without reductions and some toughness/health curios will one shot you with an overhead

coral prism
silent frigate
zealous wing
#

ye

crisp ether
#

It's not just your toughness

zealous wing
#

byebye psyker

coral prism
#

😭

crisp ether
#

Reapers will tear you apart if they catch you slipping for even a moment

coral prism
#

Time to go back to melee psyker I guess…

silent frigate
coral prism
#

Flamestaff gets me fried cuz no range to deal with gunners it’s so sad

crisp ether
#

Just one will obliterate you if it starts to get the shots off and you don't have stun immunity or cover to get into.

zealous wing
#

kekw

#

so true fea, but the dogs dont help either

coral prism
#

I kinda get greedy and can usually midair the dogs

silent frigate
zealous wing
#

playing chicken with doggo is most fun

crisp ether
#

Crazy thing is

#

Reapers aren't even the most imposing ranged unit.

#

Or gunners.

#

It's the little guys.

silent frigate
coral prism
#

Cuz I notice they just run into my flames half the time

crisp ether
#

The fodder guns.

#

Shocktroops and the like.

#

Those are the guys that will actually straight up take you down instantly if you're not careful.

#

It is bonkers how fast they can kill you because they're not affected by gunner resistance.

coral prism
zealous wing
#

fun fact, yellow stimmed shooters shoot FORTY FIVE TIMES :>