#psyker-class

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long saddle
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they didn't specify gunker so

radiant frigate
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surge surge

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it good

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crit more crit bigger click head big pew pew

long saddle
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RMB not as good but still fun

novel yoke
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works with everything till I get my hands on it, then it works with nothing lmao

dire wharf
long saddle
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it's free peril estate

marble crater
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Smite

novel yoke
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welp thanks lads

jovial juniper
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Uuuuuuuuuh
Vigilant 7

kind jay
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high peril is the blood that fuels psyker's rage

thorn cedar
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i just do meth

kind jay
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i do too but i call it peril so the cops don't get me

novel yoke
long saddle
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ye well it's ainz so

kind jay
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sexual lobster spotted

ripe obsidian
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it works well. You focus more on unlimited EK LMB during Warp Unbound than you do stacking SG.

jovial juniper
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I don't do drugs so I just consume a shit ton of energy drinks

radiant frigate
jovial juniper
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Same thing

radiant frigate
novel yoke
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sg always been the one thing I shy away from since it looks so complicated lol

radiant frigate
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it's really not

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press button to enter murdermode

kind jay
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you turn it on and attack until it's gone

radiant frigate
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like rampage on scum, or exe stance on vet

ripe obsidian
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Is less complicated than the description makes it look. It's just a goofy long description

dire wharf
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Or peanut butter on jelly

radiant frigate
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the description is indeed rather wordy

long saddle
novel yoke
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idk the funny number in description got me

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but that's why im trying it out on malice

long saddle
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but it's more so free peril while it lasts

radiant frigate
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but it boils down to spending gradually more peril to become tankier, regenerate toughness, and do more damage

novel yoke
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and then Ill move up

novel yoke
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I wonder why SG ends so quickly??

looks at build
warp ghost

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I was not cooking with that one

verbal thistle
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warp ghost doesnt make gaze end faster

novel yoke
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it doesn't? it felt like it did when I tried it in the psykhaunium

verbal thistle
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(1) Reduces the rate at which peril is quelled passively by 80%. Applies only to passive quelling above 30% true peril, active quelling is unaffected.

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from Kuli guide

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and since gaze is always adding peril, passive peril never goes starts

ripe obsidian
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Ainz. Friend, countryman. What think ye of BCoB on meleeker builds? I see bruh moment and salmon use it, but I do not believe you do.

verbal thistle
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I dislike it

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I only notice it on trash horde where I'd want to keep peril

dapper flame
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i dont like bcob because when fighting horde it quells me down to 0

novel yoke
dapper flame
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id much rather yoyo at high peril

novel yoke
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that's a tough one, managing peril is hard

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like its easy when Im not trying to constantly maintain it at a high percentage, but doing that is tough

dapper flame
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not really, instead of looking at your peril meter, start counting how many left clicks/right clicks before you hit high peril. eventually youll get a feel for where your peril is at when you arent looking at it

novel yoke
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yeah but then you need to count the seconds to where you use some warp attack again to raise it

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and if ur off by like 2 seconds you just raised it too high and now you are human grenade

dapper flame
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are you talking about a scriers staff build? if you are constantly shooting you just need to know whether or not you pressed scriers

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its just a different number

novel yoke
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oh nah I was continuing from what ainz was talking about of not using crack of bone to keep high peril

dapper flame
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oh lol on melee nothing generates peril

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just tap a quell before a slash

novel yoke
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yeah exactly

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what benefits from high peril on a melee build, its warp splitting and one with the warp only, right?

dapper flame
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the crit too

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warp nexus i think it is

novel yoke
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I forgot about warp rider, that makes sense

dapper flame
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w/e its called

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warp something

novel yoke
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warp nexus was a staff only blessing iirc

dapper flame
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im thinking of unstable power

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strength with peril

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not crit

novel yoke
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lowkey I dont think I ever used that one

ripe obsidian
dapper flame
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theres so much stuff on psyker that scales w/ peril so i try to keep my average peril ~85-90%

novel yoke
ripe obsidian
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@spice aurora how much more SG uptime do you get with BCoB versus not having it (taking Warp Splitting instead)?

novel yoke
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damn I guess I gotta start practising maintaining peril then

dapper flame
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theres a cool mod for tracking your peril. heres what my peril looks like in a usual 40

pale prairie
dapper flame
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but the entire game in my head i have a 4 shot then tap quell loop

pale prairie
dapper flame
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then i shriek and shoot ~10 shots and start the quell loop again

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yeah shriek left click ek

pale prairie
novel yoke
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just trying it in the psykhaunium

dapper flame
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you dont need to max it out every time

thorn cedar
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you should want to keep it active during a fight for as long as you would like

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but yes you dont gotta max it

pale prairie
thorn cedar
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i actually really like BCoB for burst smiting cause i can use the 4s timer on the -20% peril gen to tempo out my CC and then i poke a couple heads and rinse and repeat

novel yoke
thorn cedar
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nah he means like

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how are you gonna measure whether someone should or shouldnt keep stacks going in a given instance

pale prairie
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Ooooh

thorn cedar
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you really would have to occupy their brain while watching their gameplay to know

pale prairie
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More like ā€œdid you win?ā€

thorn cedar
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and we just dont have that kind of technology yet

pale prairie
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If you won then that’s how long/many

thorn cedar
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that works too

dapper flame
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yeah, but i think maintaining high peril is more important. you should still get probably at least 15-20 stacks and i think that maintaining the high peril buffs feels a lot better than the extra damage. you get 10 seconds of lingering effect after sg ends anyways which is far more than enough time to loop it again

pale prairie
dapper flame
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up to you really, if you like how bcob feels who cares right

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play what you want

spice aurora
# ripe obsidian <@98646301968723968> how much more SG uptime do you get with BCoB versus not hav...

im not gonna lie i dont think i care about BCOB or warp shitting with SG

cause i use FGS, so cleave...i dont really care too much, it kinda helps build up the special a bit faster when NOT running SG, but with SG my peril is all over the place..and then i slash and everything dies anyway. ESPECIALLY if you heavy special into a horde to "refund" a huge chunk of ur bar

then BCOB i forget its been so long but i think i get like 3-4 more SG Stacks

it is nice though watching peril drop hard when ur hitting a horde, if anything it may buy me a bit of quelling power to use FGS special and not hit 100% (i also dont use the 10s free peril thingy for SG)

dapper flame
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yeah, but you can also just tap a 1 tick quell before a slash every time

thorn cedar
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not at high hav

dapper flame
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yes you can

thorn cedar
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i guess you'd just be holding it down a touch longer

spice aurora
thorn cedar
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but it gets spooky real quick if youve been scryin for too long

spice aurora
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is it like doing that with a staff so the special uses 0 peril

thorn cedar
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but also like w/e i just let it go cause you are explode immune for 1.5s at the end of gaze

dapper flame
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because of the way peril works, if you are below 100% peril no matter how much a peril generating action generates, it will take you to 100 and not blow you up

thorn cedar
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some do you at 97%

dapper flame
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so you only have to quell a single tick to throw out a slash

spice aurora
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oh thats wat ur talkin about

i mostly meant BCOB might let me use the special and not hit 100%, as in it wont actually end SG

dapper flame
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oh ic

novel yoke
spice aurora
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it may put me close to ending but sometimes i notice BCOB lets me get to like peril 90 and then it drops down to 40 again cause the horde is so thic

dapper flame
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eh, i can just wait until im in lingering effect before throwing it

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thats the exact reason why i dont like it lol

frail oar
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Bcob with quietude is funny

dapper flame
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when the horde is thick you can quell yourself down to 0 and lose all of your peril buffs

spice aurora
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in my head idk what the point of the linger talent is without like assail or doing some funny staff thing

for me when i hit 100 peril, it just flies back down anyways (prolly cuz bcob) so idk

dapper flame
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warp unbound? scriers lingers without warp unbound

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warp unbound just makes it so that you can cast at 100 during the lingering effect

spice aurora
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but like in a real game for melee psyk for exmple idk when im taking advantage

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im sure i can i just cant think of it xD prolly would notice if i actually tried it out

thorn cedar
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its 10s where i can pump my staff at maximum volume without worrying about prematurely exploding

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thats really valuable

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shut up be mature

spice aurora
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i think for my build / playstyle i just dont use my staff much xD

dapper flame
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its nice for staff builds, on melee i dont think its that useful

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i run heavy las for mobility on melee

spice aurora
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im a whore for the 20% msspeed, i know ppl dont use it much but it lets me do a lot of dumb shit

thorn cedar
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big agree

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love to zoom

dapper flame
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lol yeah because i dont use bcob i dont use that, i just swap to heavylas if i need to run

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it is a lot of fun though

spice aurora
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u can do without msspeed but it just makes it a lot easier and forgiving if you fk something up

thorn cedar
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now imagine you had mind in motion

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and could zoom all the time

dapper flame
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you can do similar things if you swap to heavy laspistol because its base movement speed is faster as well, it mostly preference i think

spice aurora
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yea i technically should use laspistol but i suck at dreg ragers so i just spam them with surge surge lmb

dapper flame
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based

spice aurora
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pack of 8 blue stim dreg ragers on h40 drops like flies with surge surge xD

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i have some clips where i headshot crit like 4 in a row, killing 4 dreg ragers in like one second is so dumb

ripe obsidian
spice aurora
dapper flame
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i think warp splitting is better imo. you have 100% sg uptime anyways, just determines how many stacks you get with SG

thorn cedar
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for me warp splitting is almost entirely 100% based on a single previous decision

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"am i using assail"

ripe obsidian
spice aurora
spice aurora
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yep

formal dew
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I feel bad for going back to smite Psyker lol

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I like giving a horde a quick zap before wading in with a greatsword

ripe obsidian
# spice aurora yep

What would you deselect to make room for Kinetic Flayer, if you were going to take it?

spice aurora
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the 10% dmg resist is big but i just like the other shit i picked more xD

battle meditation or whatever the hell i actually spent like 20 games with, it gave me quite a few more SG stacks but again i wanted point elsewhere

emp evasion, does nothing for me 95% of the time
5% of the time it stops u from dying entirely so its worth imo just 4 that

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normally id do like 10 games deselecting maybe 3-4 diff talents and seeing how it goes but probably the movespeed with SG

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the +1 dodge i feel like i need when its rot

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you can also try just 15 stacks DD and not using the weakspot +3stack, or stay on 25 stak and drop the weakspot

i tried iwth a few games, idk if skill issue but i literally have 1-5 stacks for whole game only without it

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i spent i think 20-25 games with flayer and biggest change? i didnt notice much change other than "lol that thing died instantly" when it was gonna die anyway

maybe skill issue but it procs when i dont need it to a lot of the time xD

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is there a mod that will tell u kinetic flayer dmg in a game

ripe obsidian
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Not that I know of, but scoreboard has blitz, so if you never manually use BB, it'll just count KF

hoary vapor
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bro what the fuck why is this melee so broken

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i dont even have a staff or anything

spice aurora
radiant frigate
ripe obsidian
hoary vapor
spice aurora
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like anything my staff shoots is gonna die so fast, so sometimes flayer felt like it "steals" the kill
and for melee it was cool for crusher/mauler but then am i using a whole point for just that, idk Q_Q

ideally id want the linger overload and assail but i need more pts lol

hoary vapor
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oh yeah btw its unupgraded

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like WHAT

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WHY

radiant frigate
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fgs just works

spice aurora
deft stump
hoary vapor
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i just wanted to use a cool looking weapon

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this sucks

spice aurora
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chainsword best melee in game

deft stump
hoary vapor
spice aurora
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it has a bit of skill floor in higher difficulties if that makes u feel better about it

deft stump
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Because of kinda low mobility.

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Is like Powersword but more mobile. Though I think Powersword output is higher.

spice aurora
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fgs just has good attack momentum or w.e its called
u arent slowed down much, and if ur sprint heavy'ing then ur literally faster like its a knife xD

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like attacking with eviscerator, u go to snail speed

deft stump
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Ah, so better mobility does fit.

dire wharf
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BFG go brrrrt

spice aurora
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one of those weapons idk how theyd balance it

i never see any1 use in h40 and if i do they just die all the time

and the few ppl that can use it, basically have no weakness

XD

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i think the most egregious thing i did with it once was full kill a melee twin, solo on h40, before its shield even came back up, like it does some dumbass damage

hoary vapor
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how is this enemy alive

mellow gorge
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higher tax bracket

dire wharf
ripe obsidian
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KF should apply after other attacks

deft stump
spice aurora
ripe obsidian
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but this is the outcome of striking a rager in the psykhanium

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Only the remaining 974 HP went to BB

ripe obsidian
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I am having a hell of a time trying to test stuff in game right now. Everything is on like a half-second delay, despite my ping being normal.

wind spruce
cosmic sigil
formal dew
buoyant maple
deft stump
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Low skill floor is literally you can brain dead and still win on high diff with it.

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You try that with it on h30+, you will be on the floor immediately

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It's more med floor with a high celling when you see the best players on it.

formal dew
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mixed horde is insane especially on Psyker of all classes

buoyant maple
formal dew
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Surprising

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I can do pretty much anything with it

dapper flame
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the slash has pretty good cleave

formal dew
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Haven't really found any weapon better than it

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cracking a crushers carapace with a stab to the head is always nice

buoyant maple
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L sweep is medium cleave so 6.5

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H sweep is large cleave so 8

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so yea it's not that high

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with psyker's peril-scale cleave talent it can reliably gets to 10+

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which is generally considered good (10+) but not exceptional (16.2+)

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u can reach 16.2+ with unstable power & peril cleave tho
but this is still a weapon that hits no major stagger breakpoints outside SP warp slash (rly op) and PA (hits 1 guy)

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and not amazing cleave damage distribution

hoary vapor
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voidstrike or electrokinetic

thorn cedar
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cleave stagger is alright

hoary vapor
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whats ur preference

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BUDDY

thorn cedar
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electro

hoary vapor
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thanks PAL

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i tried it and i got like a million damage

formal dew
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Oh yeah speaking of electro

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what's the whole thing of electro apparently having better primary fire than other staffs?

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because I've used them all and they all build up peril at the same rate

jovial juniper
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It's due to the CRIT bonus stat

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It just has more chance and deals more critical damage

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It says melee in there but that's not accurate

patent hatch
hoary vapor
patent hatch
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Nice

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I mean tbf, depending on the difficulty that either means nothing or everything

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but yea greatsword is lovely

thorn cedar
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oh

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my internet took a sec

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i see that got answered in full

spice aurora
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Obscurus with assail contends with fgs

Obscurus is an actual demon

foggy niche
verbal thistle
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@ripe obsidian @spice aurora @rich spindle DRG?

spice aurora
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holy crystals

I tried drg again i got bored Q_Q

verbal thistle
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what hazard?

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solo?

spice aurora
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I forgot xD and not solo, I havent actually tried solo yet

verbal thistle
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I got some modded clips from last night

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that was haz 6 x7 bugs with limit of 700 enemies

spice aurora
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hory sheet

verbal thistle
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Was crazy fun

spice aurora
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i liked the grapple guy i4got the name

verbal thistle
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Scout

spice aurora
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yeee

verbal thistle
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we didnt win 1 game that night

spice aurora
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those are my fav nights on darktide

losing every game xD unironically

verbal thistle
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same

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But if you do every want to try again, let me know. We can do highest diffiulty or even modded

spice aurora
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sounds good xD will do

agile moth
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so I know the meta is mostly toughness curios, but i see some people running stamine, or wounds for marty zealot

my question is, does anyone ever run one stamina +3 curio with psyker? Cause one showed up my shop and I`m wondering if i should grab it just in case

ripe obsidian
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There is little reason to take a stamina curio

thorn cedar
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i does

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idk just exceptionally cozy with KD

kind jay
agile moth
thorn cedar
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(:

peak sundial
dapper flame
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If you want more stamina you have the option of taking warp ghost too

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You also don't have a lot of push attack heavy combos iirc

peak sundial
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vet probably has the best argument via the funny Deadshot perk but in most cases for most classes, by my reckoning, stamina should not be that hard to manage without investment

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personal taste

dapper flame
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Yeah stamina is to taste. I grab warp ghost and +2 stam on knife so I have more stamina to res but I never give up a curio for it

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Far more than enough stamina to res with no res speed perks even if all 8? slots are filled

ripe obsidian
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died twice in stupid ways (lost a game of chicken with a sniper, dodged into an overhead), but managed to get a more hybrid version of surge surge SG working. Ranged focus, but swapping to melee wasn't bad.

ripe obsidian
# wind spruce Share talents?

This is the build from that game. I want PC + Souldrinker to be worth it so I can justify pathing to Empyric Shock, but I don't think it is.

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Gonna try this next. Not sure if I want the last point in +10% ranged damage or Anticipation or something else.

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this has potential

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disappointing.

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meanwhile I have these two on my second psyker I never play:

spiral fiber
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Is assail a good psyker build for auric levels ? And if so what would be a good skill tree. I googled it but seemed many variations

zealous wing
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theres a guide in the pins

wind spruce
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Literally the holy grail of low warp resist

ripe obsidian
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20% is my new lowest Deimos on this character, but it was so close to being 16%

wind spruce
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It'll cost tens of millions but its attainable

ripe obsidian
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I've spent 10s of millions

wind spruce
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Aiming any lower is just frustration

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I should spend some more now i think of it xD

ripe obsidian
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My current goal is just sub-20 on both Deimos and FGS

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I buy 100 swords whenever I get close to 25m

wind spruce
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Just spent it allllll

long saddle
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it takes ages tho

wind spruce
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And autoclickers exist

zealous wing
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80 blast radius, 2 blast radius. IS SO TEENY

long saddle
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yeah I remember why I didn't like leveling staves lol

zealous wing
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functional

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fidget build my beloved "make six hate me"

summer prairie
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surely it's not like that on the server...

summer prairie
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I think I figured it out. They may be broken everywhere except Expeditions

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unless there's different backend code

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but surely someone noticed it by now, should have been broken for almost a month

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cultist grenadiers are also broken

radiant frigate
summer prairie
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ashen edge
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Guys, is there a combo for fgs for horde aside of light spamming?

long saddle
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l1, l2, block cancel, repeat

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for mk6

jovial juniper
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QQ heavy QQ heavy QQ heavy QQ heavy

bitter spade
long saddle
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yeah I sometimes do l3 but not always

patent hatch
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But normally im switching to chaining heavies executioner style

zealous wing
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or L1 L2 L3 then a heavy (H3?)

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note this is for mark 6

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for mark 8 it is just light spam

wind spruce
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Mk 8 doesnt exist

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Its a myth, a delusion

frail oar
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Mk 8 is heavy light

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And mk 8 is fun

ashen edge
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The animation is cooler imo. Keep chopping instead of chop then stab

zealous wing
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mk8 requires stamina to do a stab

frail oar
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Don't need a stab

ripe obsidian
zealous wing
frail oar
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Thats fine I'd rather have fun

zealous wing
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im happy youre happy with light spam

frail oar
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It isnt lightspam

zealous wing
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it is

frail oar
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Cool.

zealous wing
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l1 l2 are horizontal swings and l3 l4 are upward diagonals at a slight angle

frail oar
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Im aware of the moveset just like you are

patent hatch
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That great sword looks tasty as fuck

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Mk VI my beloved

jovial juniper
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Because only the Greatest weapons are worth of legends

patent hatch
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Im still unsure about the deimos tbh

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Using tbay special attack feels dangerous

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Hoarde clear combo also feels cranky

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Clanky

ripe obsidian
ripe obsidian
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The H2 knocks crushers over if you get a headshot and can pretty easily 3-shot them without a meleeker build

jovial juniper
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Sticky attacks are all dangerous that's true

ripe obsidian
patent hatch
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Feels like the easiest way to get overheated

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Headed

jovial juniper
formal harness
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L1 H2 block cancel repeat for armor

jovial juniper
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Because they bite hard

patent hatch
formal harness
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never use deimos special unless mutie running past you and you don't have time to chain h2

zealous wing
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why block cancel

formal harness
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swap cancel faster

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but I got too used to block cancel

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so you can throw out l1 again

patent hatch
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I mean, swap cancel is always gonna be faster

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But i dont hate myself enough to do that

formal harness
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its all about getting better with a weapon, regular loop is fine if you don't care too much

patent hatch
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L1 into heavy chains should be alr as well?

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Can't remember the heavy combo tbh

ripe obsidian
formal harness
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other heavy is a slower swipe that does mid dmg

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queuing into l1 is better dmg (because you access h2 faster)

patent hatch
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Its become my go to defensive weapon with deflector on staff builds

zealous wing
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why bother with looping to l1

patent hatch
zealous wing
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just light heavy loop seems faster at a glance here

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rather than l1 h2 bc

patent hatch
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Been tempted to run blazing spirit on it tbh

zealous wing
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wh

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no

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blazing melee is pointless

formal harness
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because l1 is the fastest attack you can pull out so looping back to it to get back to h2 is faster and more dmg than l1 h2 l3 h2

patent hatch
formal harness
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it is one of the reasons why skitarius macro l1 is extremely overpowered

zealous wing
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anyone who uses such macros is simply cheating for no purpose

patent hatch
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Only macro i ever used was

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Dual axes move tech

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On slayer

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I dont want to loose feeling in my hands

jovial juniper
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cough if you want to run blazing spirit run illisi because at least you can get 21+ cleave on it cough

ashen edge
zealous wing
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macros in general are fine, soon as they start being used to do something someone cant reasonably do for a whole mission... thats where it falls into cheat territory

formal harness
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if the check for blazing spirit happened before the enemy died to damage it could be quite interesting

zealous wing
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ie, bleed FGS

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its such a pointless thing to macro

patent hatch
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Bleed fgs is cool. But its overkill and hard to replicate xD

zealous wing
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but people do, and have done it for a whole mission, obviously macroing, and lying about macroing

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overkill? KEKW

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i outdamaged them on normal melee psyker

patent hatch
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Nice

ashen edge
patent hatch
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I often find myself doing slightly wacky amounts of overkill damage on melee psyker in auric malestrome

formal harness
patent hatch
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So that's probs why

ashen edge
jovial juniper
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No such thing as overkill anyways

ashen edge
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There's a proverb in my language about using a cow killing knife on a chicken šŸ”. Way overkill like that

formal harness
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yeah I understand, what I mean is macroers will prefer l1 spam over l1 h2 spam with macros but I've seen both too
interesting that people still play with that shit

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there's a new macro cycling around btw

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for surge staff m1 spam

jovial juniper
ashen edge
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Yeah, I just don't understand why are they satisfied with that. There's no challenges or self improvement

formal harness
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it's using the run cancel tech for the macro

jovial juniper
#

If you're not dealing 9999999 damage to a 0.5hp ant
You should go home

formal harness
#

you might notice it in your games

jovial juniper
#

I Lowkey haven't seen Ek psykers lately

#

I will make extra sure to pay attention if I find one

formal harness
#

I kinda want to play with ek staff now lol

#

been a while

patent hatch
#

Trauma

#

Or go home

jovial juniper
#

Weak Aura

#

Electrokinetic or bust

patent hatch
#

The only staffs I see are voidstrike and flame

#

Tbh

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Ek and trauma dont get shit

jovial juniper
#

I haven't seen Voidstrike since 2022

patent hatch
#

I saw one yesterday

jovial juniper
#

Actually when did they nerf True Aim again

patent hatch
#

Uhhh

jovial juniper
#

2023?

#

Yeah

patent hatch
#

Maybe yea

jovial juniper
#

I haven't seen Voidstrike since 2023

#

No

#

I think it was 2024?

#

Sotm gave shotguns to Psyker

#

So TA got nerfed

patent hatch
#

I never liked it

jovial juniper
#

I haven't seen a Voidstrike since 2024

deft stump
patent hatch
#

Trauma and EK are the only ones I play with

patent hatch
deft stump
formal harness
#

I'm actually working on a build with voidstrike rn

pure plinth
#

how is agri shotgun on gun psyker

formal harness
#

will let you know if it's any good on rotten

jovial juniper
#

Nothing's ever good on rotten

#

Except dots

formal harness
#

try trauma

jovial juniper
#

If nothing got me I know dots will

#

Can I get an amen

formal harness
#

explosion damage also completely ignores dr

patent hatch
#

I still want to make a double barrel psyker build work smh

formal harness
#

so you get burn plus explo dmg

formal harness
patent hatch
#

I wish it wasn't just

#

Completely overshadowed in its so called archtype

formal harness
#

I'd argue trauma is even stronger in rotten than fire staff

#

it also gives you safety with stagger

jovial juniper
#

Yeah nothing's ever good on rotten

formal harness
#

the problem with voidstrike into rotten

#

is the fact that the damage of it is frontloaded into the non explosive part

#

which is a shame really

ripe obsidian
ripe obsidian
formal harness
#

I play disrupt with it

#

deimos with disrupt destiny is bs op

#

the brittle doesnt matter much when you have %120 rending

#

so I stick with blazing

ripe obsidian
#

It caps

#

The code is something like min(1, rending_amount), so you can't get over 100% bonus

#

I think Blazing Trauma works best with SG + Warp Unbound for unlimited explosions, but I haven't touched the build much

frail oar
#

Does brittle provide the 0.25 damage bonus conversion for over 100% pen?

patent hatch
#

Tbh I might try normal force sword or maybe chain sword on melee psyker

deft stump
patent hatch
#

It's a fun weapon :3

deft stump
#

I rather use the Illisi over it.

patent hatch
#

o.0

#

Intresting

deft stump
#

I do wish Illisi get some buffs, yes, but the feel is imo, better.

patent hatch
#

in theory I prefer Illisi over demios

#

but the numbers aint there

#

What about the Obscurus I don't see people mentoining that one

marble crater
#

It's too weird, that's why

patent hatch
#

Gonna have to give it a swing

marble crater
#

Moveset is more hassle than the other two

patent hatch
#

weird is fun sometimes

deft stump
jovial juniper
#

You could say that

#

It's obscure

deft stump
#

Can't just braindead it either.

patent hatch
#

Heavy light light for single target and light block cancel for hoarde šŸ¤”

#

Or Light Heavy Light for hoarde šŸ¤”

#

and heavy light heavy for single target

#

strange

formal harness
# ripe obsidian 100%*

yeah the sum of rending buffs cannot exceed 1 so that's valid.
I was just touching into the absurdness of a single blessing being able to give so much rending it has to discard a %20 lol

patent hatch
#

Ok I kinda like the Obscurus

formal harness
#

funnily enough

#

I ran through a rotten armor havoc twice

#

with a voidstrike

#

and its quite decent

#

pairing it up with deimos gets rid of its armor weakness

#

it has quite good hordeclear with fire stacks

raven wave
#

Hey everyone! Just joined, I recently made a Psyker and am roleplaying him as someone who was really inspired by the Grey Knights, so he uses a force greatsword and has armor. What talents/weapons/cosmetics do you think would work well with making him as close to a grey knight as possible?

hoary mauve
#

i like the red and black FGS. it doesnt look lore accurate tho, probably

patent hatch
#

Are grey knights even specific flavours of psychers?

#

I meeeeaeaaaan

#

Cause grey knights are basically never corrupted bye chaos

#

you could just run max corruption resistance lol

#

and then maybe Crystaline Will

#

but that really is reaching lol

#

Charged Strike is kind of grey knighty?

#

and you can pick up a bolt pistol on psyker as well

jovial juniper
#

Although there are some grey colored gear

patent hatch
#

I don't realy know if theres any grey/steel gear which is also blueish

#

I doubt it

dire wharf
zealous wing
#

i would have to be infodumped about grey knights to help

patent hatch
zealous wing
#

i'm running games so DMs might be easier to not get lost

patent hatch
#

They are basically the, ultimate anti deamon space marines

#

all psykers

#

all in silver power armour with a blueish tint

#

and they like force weapons

zealous wing
#

i need to know what they look like, how they behave, what abilities they have, what weaponry they use, things they would never do, etc

#

the more detail the better tbh

patent hatch
dire wharf
patent hatch
#

force halberds specifically

jovial juniper
#

One of the grey hoods

dire wharf
#

BFG/Shredder autopistol

patent hatch
#

Bolt gun no?

#

bolt pistol*

zealous wing
#

MM armour is too dark

patent hatch
#

Yeah it defo is

#

but idk if theres anything better

zealous wing
#

i cant switch to psyker to check atm

dire wharf
#

Give psykers bolter please

patent hatch
zealous wing
#

but ik grey krieg is closer

patent hatch
#

or this one

jovial juniper
#

The smite pants are a bit more purpleish yeah

patent hatch
#

This one could be decent as well for simlar reasons

#

Might be a case of mix and match

zealous wing
#

for free cosmetics i think i'd go with this for them

#

from commissary and one penance

dire wharf
zealous wing
#

and FGS would be the closest to a halberd due to range

#

well no shit

#

i am not gonna take off my cosmetic

dire wharf
#

You better!

zealous wing
#

theres two free ones in commissary as well, one red one blue

jovial juniper
dire wharf
#

There needs to be more skins. Do they not like money

jovial juniper
#

They do

#

Is just that this dogshit system they are currently using pays more

#

(dogshitly)

wind wind
#

Any of here willing to play a quick auric or havoc Game with me?

#

As in, now?

ripe obsidian
cosmic cobalt
#

I don't even have fun with voidstrike in auric

#

genuinely feeling like gimping yourself for using it

#

it might because im running dd

formal harness
#

it is

#

try it with left keystone

#

6 stacks

cosmic cobalt
#

dd is just more fun

formal harness
#

cycle your scriers

cosmic cobalt
#

but yeah I can't make ot work

ripe obsidian
formal harness
#

@cosmic cobalt we can hop in a 40 game rn

#

if you are around

#

you can try the voidstrike

cosmic cobalt
#

we are like half the world away lmao

#

latency be damned

formal harness
#

damn

#

fair

#

@ripe obsidian you want in?

cosmic cobalt
#

i used to play with a friend with like 200 ping in vt2 and that wasn't that bad

#

but dt isn't p2p and ranged is more important

ripe obsidian
cosmic cobalt
#

my closest server is like hk and apac

verbal thistle
#

Technically ham is in asia

#

ā˜ļø

formal harness
thorn cedar
#

so more like spamdolsun

cosmic cobalt
raven wave
#

Thanks for all the input about the grey knight psyker! I currently use the silver full armor (blue rarity I believe) from the commissary, and I think there was a premium helmet that has a knight-like mouthpiece that I am looking to get, but right now my psyker is helmet less.

raven wave
spice aurora
#

this is the only white helmet u should use

ripe obsidian
#

The toilet bowl

frail oar
#

The Emperor's Bidet

jovial juniper
#

It's a toilet bowl

#

Which explains Psykers brain farts

#

Dangerous too

patent hatch
#

Good havoc 24 game :3 melee psyker go brrrr

ripe obsidian
pale prairie
ripe obsidian
fathom adder
slim nimbus
#

Shame that we have to juice up our blade with warp and suffer the peril, while everyone else has things like big clubs and hammers they just press the fun electric button on without any issue

patent hatch
#

In exchange for that

#

we get better DPS :3

verbal thistle
#

no peril FGS probably out dps 95% of the weapons in this game

patent hatch
#

no question

#

its already nuts dps with peril

#

actually

#

It might loose some DPS cause of peril interacting with talents and perks

pale prairie
fresh panther
ripe obsidian
wind spruce
slim nimbus
#

I have been trying a zealot on the side and it's been fun just smashing crushers in the fact over and over

#

Since I don't do any of the backstab tryhard stuff

wind spruce
#

was fucked

thorn cedar
#

well

#

you used to be able to uh

#

idk what we called it

#

you could skip the stun

#

by equipping the hammer again

fresh panther
#

qq cancel the stun I think

thorn cedar
#

nah

#

you'd just press the hammer equip button lol

#

like 1

wind spruce
#

bruh why did people even complain then

#

fucking zealots man

fresh panther
#

never heard of that, I qq canceled it lol

thorn cedar
#

yea you'd tap one and it'd instantly skip it

dapper flame
#

2 many buttons for normies to press

slim nimbus
#

The thing that upsets me on zealot is the flamer takes a million years to pull out

dapper flame
#

knife

thorn cedar
#

throwing knife

slim nimbus
#

And they have no bespoke ranged weapon other than that

#

Yeah there is the knife cancel, but I hate the knife

#

I hate that it comes out instantly instead of equipping it

dapper flame
#

knife is zealots best blitz imo

slim nimbus
#

Feels like shit

dapper flame
#

ĀÆ_(惄)_/ĀÆ

slim nimbus
#

Yeah it's for sure meta

dapper flame
#

hitting knives is really fun for me

slim nimbus
#

I binded it to middle mouse button which helped

dapper flame
#

i have it on a foot pedal

loud girder
#

i would hate knife if i had to equip it first

slim nimbus
#

Still doesn't feel very zealoty though

loud girder
#

the whole point is quick snipes

slim nimbus
#

Just because most blitzes get equipped

dapper flame
#

so i dont accidentally shift my aim when i press it on the mouse

white sky
#

I prefer blitz that don't get equipped

loud girder
white sky
#

Big fan of knife and blinders on scum cause of that

slim nimbus
#

So slamming g for a pinpoint knife toss when my team mate suck dick at special sniping is annoying

white sky
#

Dog bomb too for arb

fresh panther
loud girder
#

i put knife on middle mouse

#

and then kept all my blitzes there

slim nimbus
loud girder
#

cowardly?

#

its peak

dapper flame
#

i used to use scroll wheel down to throw blitzes but i would always accidentally throw too many

loud girder
#

going unseen and 1 shotting a big mf is very zealoty Haha

fresh panther
loud girder
#

i used to dislike it until they changed it

#

its cool

slim nimbus
#

I am sure it's satisfying to get the big damage and one shot things with it in a sense

fresh panther
#

I respect the single target damage burst but still dislike stealth lol

loud girder
#

but i also like stealth as a concept just hated how it used to work

slim nimbus
#

Just doesn't feel right

fresh panther
#

when I use it I'm stealthing for like .25 seconds to stab and that's it

slim nimbus
#

The unfaithful and the monsters will see my face as I destroy them

#

Look me in the eye and know my righteous fury

#

Wrath be upon ye

loud girder
#

hey u can larp in different ways

#

u can shove a book up their faces too

slim nimbus
#

Not elderscrolls sneak archer

dapper flame
#

stealth has some insane util. i dont think that the damage is the best part of it. its really nice to be able to just unga bunga do an obj in the middle of everything

loud girder
#

it aint sneak archer, its corvo from dishonored

dapper flame
#

or pick people up so that they can die again

slim nimbus
#

Always

#

You can usually use the chorus too and get a revive in at the end

#

People seem to hate chorus though

#

Both using it and having it used near them

#

Like hating smykers

dapper flame
#

my issue with chorus is that it relies on my teammates who are always trustworthy , as we all know

slim nimbus
#

I mean

#

Yeah

#

But it can also be used to mitigate their weakness

dapper flame
#

like i could buff my teammates and have them deal more damage, or i can just do it all myself

slim nimbus
#

And save them from getting their shit pushed in

dapper flame
#

if you kill everything you still save them

slim nimbus
#

There might be times where if you don't have it, they will die

dapper flame
#

or just run and pick them up at the respawn beacon later

slim nimbus
#

Sure

#

But there are risks to either way

#

You might kill everything and do it perfectly but whoops a disabler ganks you

dapper flame
#

i think that you will see more variance on chorus thanyou will on the other abilities

slim nimbus
#

Chorus let me save someones expedition earlier

#

Just using it as a time saving window while there were too many snipers and specials as the door timer ticked and other players left out of rage

dapper flame
#

stealth saves 40 runs pretty consistently because you can just pick everyone up by yourself

#

same idea

slim nimbus
#

Can't pick them up when they are dead far as fuck away

dapper flame
#

different methods

#

run faster lol

slim nimbus
#

Pretty much

#

But like I said I don't care for stealth just aesthetically

fresh panther
#

my last 40 I was the only person with clearance below 40 (mine was 33) and ended up clutching with stealth on the fatmangus build

dapper flame
#

u right though in the way that if i have a dogshit zealot on my team 10 times out of 10 i want him on book rather than stealth

dapper flame
#

just run past all the stuff they are smiting

#

it will kill them

slim nimbus
#

What is book

#

Oh the icon is a book, yeah

dapper flame
#

chorus of spiritual fortitude

#

yeah

slim nimbus
#

The little thing they pull out is some idol they sleep with to be comfy

#

Angry pious scottish fella is good VA though

ripe obsidian
# dapper flame if you kill everything you still save them

This is the most significant difference I have experienced between newer/less skilled players and more skilled ones. More skilled players are much more comfortable with movement and positioning and such, and in turn value damage more highly. If you kill a threat, it is removed and no longer a threat. Less skilled players rely more on defensive talents/abilities to make up for lacking movement and positioning, but those defensive abilities only mitigate a threat temporarily rather than removing it.

dapper flame
#

its the difference between a 20-30m h40 and a 50m slogfest

ripe obsidian
#

Yes.

dapper flame
#

i think that taking defensive stuff and going for that long makes the game significanly harder because of how much you get bogged down and the game throws more and more dps checks at you

#

much more time to fail

ripe obsidian
#

With good, aggressive players, my H40s are often sub-30 minutes. Quickest I have had with randoms was like a 22 minute Oubliette. With not so good players who don't move forward? Get ready for 45 minutes of attrition before a frustrating loss.

dapper flame
#

30 i would say is an average clear pace with 1 other person who really knows what they're doing and 2 just whatever guys

#

maybe 30-40

#

with 3 good players its 25-30 and on a fully stacked teams we were averaging 20m a few days ago

#

the faster you move the easier the game gets

ripe obsidian
#

It is true

#

Never stop moving forward, except to kill bosses, generally.

dapper flame
#

just dont move so fast that the game entity locks because then it just becomes boring lol

ripe obsidian
#

Yeah, I don't get the appeal of breaking spawning to get 10 minute games. It's just kinda bleh

pale prairie
#

Hard to move forward if you all gather before a drop go down alone and then the rest retreat back 3 rooms and run in circles for 5 min before going ā€œwe should go for reviveā€

dapper flame
#

happens

#

the woes of party finder

pale prairie
#

I look like a melee doofus charging in alone only to realize everyone is just watching from above

ripe obsidian
patent hatch
dapper flame
#

i mainly play w/ a stack and we just run giga damage 2 psyker 2 scum

patent hatch
#

we got 90% of the way through the mission, ahem. 40 Reapers

#

Death

dapper flame
#

the scoreboards look like auric games at the end lol

ripe obsidian
patent hatch
#

Imagine finding randoms consisntely enough

#

Auric Malestrom is the highest I can play with randoms smh

ripe obsidian
#

I don't have issues finding randoms usually. I just host my own games unless I really hate the modifiers

dapper flame
#

i have two others who are in my stack who are very good, and the last guy is just whoever from either the server or party finder. if we pick up someone insane we get sub 20 games, otherwise its like 25-30

#

yeah just host your own havoc

patent hatch
#

tru

ripe obsidian
#

Though I don't vet builds 90% of the time, so my randoms are often... questionable

#

But I don't care enough to check everyone's build

dapper flame
#

lol ill take anyone so long as they have upgraded weapons and curios

ripe obsidian
#

I just wanna play the game

patent hatch
#

See my issue is, I don't really know all the classes

#

sooo

dapper flame
#

please dont bring your blue 8% toughness curio into my h40

patent hatch
#

watch me

ripe obsidian
ripe obsidian
#

Sometimes lower, but those people, I usually check their builds

patent hatch
#

:(

ripe obsidian
dapper flame
#

^^

dapper flame
#

i regularly go on "party finder safari" and just see how well i can do with the most fuckass team

ripe obsidian
#

What's your username(s)? If you're on NAE, we've likely at least seen each other in party finder

dapper flame
#

DrBees

median furnace
dapper flame
#

my stack is raphacuhh and dontpickthisclass

ripe obsidian
#

All of my characters are some play on Spoony-Threepus or Joony-Dreepus or such

pale prairie
dapper flame
#

i think ive seen you around

#

when im running bleed you'll see me on DrBleeds

ripe obsidian
pale prairie
#

I refuse to acknowledge him so as to curtail his power

dapper flame
#

recently we've been picking people up in nasa chat and party finders dont get put out as often

pale prairie
#

He can’t hurt me if I don’t see him

patent hatch
ripe obsidian
patent hatch
#

.>

#

Peril tracking mod where

dapper flame
#

yeah lol

ripe obsidian
patent hatch
#

True peril?

#

ah no I got it

pale prairie
#

No Peril Tracjer

#

It’s just for nerd talk

patent hatch
#

I should download true peril as well tbh

ripe obsidian
pale prairie
#

True peril has helped my ā€œdon’t blow myself upā€ game tremendously

dapper flame
#

do you have the modified scoreboard one that shows havoc level/modifiers?

ripe obsidian
#

I don't have the scoreboard that shows Havoc, no

dapper flame
#

it wont work retroactively, but it will for missions you run further. on beginning a mission and leaving you will get some debug messages but you can just ignore them

#

it also saves a scoreboard when you leave a game with the menu rather than only when you finish

#

so if you drop out to save a map it doesnt wipe out the data

ripe obsidian
#

Neato

#

I am pretty novice at software engineering, so most of what I do is heavily assisted by AI

dapper flame
#

ĀÆ_(惄)_/ĀÆ

#

a tool is a tool

#

this will probably scare you but out in industry i would say at least 80% of them use ai now too

#

well scare is a strong word

ripe obsidian
#

It's aggravating

dapper flame
#

lol

#

im in embedded/firmware and its not that bad yet

ripe obsidian
#

In my current role, I just do wi-fi/mobility stuff. Previous roles were broader, but always switching/layer 2, never routing.

dapper flame
#

ive only ever done layer 1 bc my undergrad was in RF

dreamy viper
#

Is there an actual use for the fire staff's m1?

dapper flame
#

yes

#

applying empyric shock and staggering mobs

#

it has insane stagger

dreamy viper
#

Ah

ripe obsidian
dapper flame
#

based

#

you wouldnt be here if you didnt deserve it

ripe obsidian
#

Everyone else at the company who's my age has been in IT for like 15 years. I've been in it for 4.

dapper flame
#

how else would they justify the millions of dollars the execs decided to spend on tokens?

ripe obsidian
patent hatch
#

Thats

#

Awful

dapper flame
#

its much more common than you would think

patent hatch
#

Im so sorry xD

ripe obsidian
#

Tbh I don't love my job. It's not what I expected. Way more documentation and administrative work than actual tech work.

dapper flame
#

unfortunately thats just working at a large company

ripe obsidian
#

Title is "Network Engineer" but it's much closer to architect

ripe obsidian
dapper flame
#

are you ready for our planning poker session for the next sprint? i think we're gonna combine that meeting with our daily standup so its gonna be a 2 hour "15 minute meeting" rather than a 1 hr one. Make sure to fill out your tickets on jira and update your statuses every time you wipe your ass.

#

actually i cant make that because of the mandatory lean 6 sigma training we have later that day

cloud folio
#

so psyker force sword just does damage around enemies nearby by just blocking?

cloud folio
pale prairie
#

looks cool though

dim beacon
#

thoughts on paapa essiedu?

ripe obsidian
#

Who or what is that?

dapper flame
#

google tells me that hes snape in the new harry potter tv series?

pale prairie
#

Oh man that whole thing is gonna be problematic

ripe obsidian
#

I don't see how an actor in Harry Potter is particularly relevant to blowing up heretics with our minds for My Beloved.

ashen edge
#

"People" probably mad because now we have black magician in harry potter

ripe obsidian
#

Oh. That's a dumb thing to be mad about.

dapper flame
#

we already had uhh checks notes Kingsley Shacklebolt ... hmmm

indigo plank
#

Hogwarts Legacy had Poppy and a couple others but chronically online people dont play good games

pale prairie
#

Can’t wait for that gang of guys who pants the dark wizard in prep school

proper spoke
#

Don't be distracted by unimportant things. That's what the heretics want

indigo plank
#

On a side note I need to play psyker and get my melkbux for this week...

wind spruce
wind spruce
ashen edge
wind spruce
#

May aswell call him Dwayne SlaveryMmmK or something

kind jay
patent hatch
#

Hmmhmhm

pale prairie
#

Apparently there is no HR in the dark future

kind jay
#

HR is too scary even for 40k

ripe obsidian
#

Human resources? Is that what they call the Imperial Tithe on Atoma?

potent echo
kind jay
#

no its Bradley from HR sending you a meeting request for friday at 4:30pm to discuss "barrel antics"

stray shoal
#

have they been giving us an additional character slot with every new class release?

verbal thistle
#

yeah

#

up to 8 iirc

stray shoal
#

awesome

main crow
ripe obsidian
#

Harry's dad was a piece of work, even discounting the potential racism element.

main crow
#

I’m sure the show will be fine tho in all honesty KEKW_ogryn

#

Yea, it’ll just make the dad snape lily triangle even more problematic

#

That’s assuming the show doesn’t change anything though. Theoretically they could write things better

ripe obsidian
#

Writing better than Rowling is not a high bar.

dim beacon
#

that looks like a cyborg wizard

#

so the query came up on my mind!

ashen edge
cosmic cobalt
zealous wing
#

they definitely should have thought the implications through

cosmic cobalt
#

there are better example of changing character race actually ended up make the media better like shawshank but this isn't one of them

#

šŸ’€

pearl nest
#

yall wanna see my psyker's fucked up build so far and hes level 20?

zealous wing
#

sure

pearl nest
cosmic cobalt
#

Damn

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I think he should be killed

pearl nest
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Damn ok

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tbf i usually just use the loadout of: "please let this fucking work ;-;"

zealous wing
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yeah bit too top heavy

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you should be able to have a fully upgraded ability by lvl20

pearl nest
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as i said

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my only real hope is to let it work

zealous wing
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you will be real tanky with toughness regen

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and, anything WORKS by technicality

pearl nest
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tanky? naw.

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i may have 4 wounds but i die in .2 seconds.

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let alone with toughness and HP

kind jay
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i see mind in motion

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build is perfect

zealous wing
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youll get toughness from warp attack kills (assail), hitting things in melee, and toughness from melee kills (base function)

pearl nest
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i mushed it all together

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i honestly just want something balanced out

zealous wing
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my berpsyker build in the pinned guides new psyker section has not failed me yet for talent placements in the psyker leveling processes

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which, i've done a lot of testing with this

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various methods vs this build, putting points in as you go, sticking to mainly melee, has served well as a backup when a different test causes undue struggle

pearl nest
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whenever i look at the pre-builds i just feel wrong whenever i do for some reason.

zealous wing
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basically, you should pick something, warp (assail), or melee, and follow that kind of pathway until you've got something more solid where you can branch out

pearl nest
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that just makes it harder ;-;

zealous wing
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you can have both, but when leveling its good to pick something you feel is strong and fun

pearl nest
zealous wing
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k, so, with assail, you would want soul stealer, while with melee, you want warp expendature.

soul stealer gives toughness on warp kill, which would be assail, or soulblaze, etc

warp expendature is toughness by smacking things with your sword

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then just kinda wander downwards

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if you use a slow weapon, like the greatsword, grabbing the attack speed is handy, while if you use a staff, and have perilous combustion, grab the fire talents in that section

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if you use both, you can grab both, but prioritise whichever one you think you're using more

pearl nest
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i use a mixture of melees

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but sure okay

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i also dont really focus on my staff

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i focus more on my G ability

long saddle
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they're more of a complement, fire and move on with the rest of your kit

pearl nest
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alright i made a build

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ability part first

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seconadry bit

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there's a skill point in the one that gives me a cleave boost based on peril

zealous wing
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you dont need mind in motion, so you could grab the warp splitting for that if you like

pearl nest
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which one was mind in motion?

zealous wing
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center

pearl nest
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thx

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whats the warp splitting one?

zealous wing
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center

pearl nest
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i got warp splitting but i still have a spare skillpoint

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i have a lot of focus on melee and my G ability

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thats usually how i play psyker