#psyker-class

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patent hatch
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Asaial does seem quite fun trying to make a assail shotgun build kinda thing

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Because double barrels are cool

zealous wing
rancid geyser
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they won't be, especially since he is buddy buddy with tanner

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the guy that gets bullied out of the communities he enters

zealous wing
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"gets bullied out of"

patent hatch
rancid geyser
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keep it that way

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he takes salt with anything but acquiescence

buoyant maple
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assail with cleave is rly op on dreg mixed horde

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not nearly as good on flak tho

zealous wing
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its so satisfying

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but ye

patent hatch
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Completely unrelated

zealous wing
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scab seed makes me Sitgryn

patent hatch
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just tabbed out of the meat grinder. As I did the mutant woke up and grabbed me in the loading scene

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.>

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huh

zealous wing
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hah

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yeah

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fatshark

patent hatch
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never seen that

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but I like it

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funny as shit

zealous wing
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so good

rancid geyser
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enemies stuck in walls

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or mosnter spawn boxes

zealous wing
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enemies spawning where they shouldnt be

rancid geyser
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hit reg on enemies not being right

zealous wing
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patrols from exped in normal missions

rancid geyser
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dogs jumping and missing targets or sliding off of you chest as you stand still

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or randomly clipping into you

zealous wing
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armour patrol on a dreg seed is funny but not :(

rancid geyser
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gunners standing in place not shooting at all

rancid geyser
zealous wing
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have you not

rancid geyser
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no

zealous wing
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??

rancid geyser
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everything else i listed yeah

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that one i havent ran into

zealous wing
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SOMEONE hasnt been running their CIVI MAELS

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REAPER PATROL

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IN A CIVI MAEL

rancid geyser
zealous wing
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MMM MY FAVOURITE angy_cry

rancid geyser
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like yesterday we had a hound pack and like 4 of them jumped at me and all slid down my chest

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the game is buggy as hell

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the patrols i don't think i noticed whatsoever

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though having patrols on maps makes me want them to stay in, though we need bigger maps for that

zealous wing
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i have, idk if i clipped any

rancid geyser
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that and enemies spawning in the beginning areas of missions can stay

zealous wing
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and yeah some patrols would indeed be cool but they need to not be an accident, and should line up with what seed it has

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imo

rancid geyser
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a week ago 2 teammates got pancaked by crushers as soon as we loaded in

zealous wing
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they removed that

buoyant maple
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dreg rager and gunner spawns seem elevated compared to before

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mercantile first breach into facing down 16 dreg ragers

silent frigate
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Not as bad

zealous wing
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true

buoyant maple
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used to not spawn elites beyond the first 3 at the breach

zealous wing
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some have earlier than it used to be, just not AT spawn

rancid geyser
zealous wing
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if they wander, its a patrol

buoyant maple
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idm them tho they kinda fun

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unless u hav no rager stagger BP then u get cooked in <2s lol

zealous wing
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its all fun and games until i am 75% sure they increase the more patrols you kill, which, current maps do not play nice with if you're in a bad spot for a wave of 8 crushers and co

rancid geyser
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one day fatshark will have a good amount of challenging enemies, so they can stop spamming crushers

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until then, i will completely build around killing that enemy and only that enemy

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lazy ass spawn rate increase because they can't design difficulty

buoyant maple
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I think crushers would be ok if they were 6k instead of 6.5k hp

rancid geyser
zealous wing
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unupgraded krak breakpoint?

buoyant maple
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no just in general

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that's usually 1 less hit to kill across almost every carapace-capable melee weapon

rancid geyser
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now each crucher takes 2-3 seconds

buoyant maple
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well before the hp change, h40 crusher was 5400

rancid geyser
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maybe 4

buoyant maple
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less than current crusher base

rancid geyser
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not it's just bloated

buoyant maple
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6k (9k h40) is more reasonable to me anyway

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instead of 6.5k (9.75k h40)

rancid geyser
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i think the hp in h40 would be fine if they number in the packs were lower

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but its not like it isnt playable

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it just really hampers what is viable

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imo

cosmic cobalt
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nah the clowncar is the fun part

silent frigate
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Just make crushers have open areas on their armor to shoot or if you hit enough times armor breaks of

twilit carbon
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trying this again here.
the randoms i run into keep killing things before i can yeet mobs off of ledges.
may i have some help completing the cliffhanger achieve?

patent hatch
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if it can't melt carapace not worth bringing smh

zealous wing
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i can help

silent frigate
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Keck

rancid geyser
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as long as you've got 1 weapon to deal with cara you are fine

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or a trust worthy team

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if you lack faith bring a solution

patent hatch
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Huh

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you can kinda permantley stay in Scriers Gaze

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With Warp Siphon

rancid geyser
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yeah

patent hatch
rancid geyser
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even without warp siphon

patent hatch
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just tried it out with a

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assail build

slim nimbus
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Yeah it comes back really fast

rancid geyser
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its mostly how many specials and elites your team kills in your coherency

twilit carbon
slim nimbus
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Might as well just run it with DD

patent hatch
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difficulty

rancid geyser
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yup

slim nimbus
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Though empowered assail is probably disgusting

patent hatch
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hmhm

rancid geyser
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spammable cc that can clear hordes

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and if you have KF can remove specials and elites over time

patent hatch
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never really liked it tbh

rancid geyser
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you can shriek and have shriek instantly recover 6 stacks

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why that's allowed I'm not sure

patent hatch
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Peresonally I mainly stick with scriers

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Never been to big a fan of shriek

rancid geyser
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i am a gaze EK player, but even i have to defualt to the shriek when my mental is tapped in havocs

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good way to deal with the BS sometimes

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shriek might staight up be the easiest playstyle in the game

slim nimbus
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dot flame is nice

patent hatch
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Idk Shriek

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flame staff

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all the fire talents

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melee weapon which can eat through armour

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might be the easiest thing to play

rancid geyser
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can confirm ive not played anything more brainless

slim nimbus
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Yeah they didn't really balance it properly

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So fire with bonuses, propagating to everything is just kind of set and forget

rancid geyser
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i would say avoid wildfire though

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probably the 1 point you can save when playing the weapon since they wont gain more stacks if they already have 4

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shriek kinda ensures they always have more than 4

verbal thistle
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wildfire is where you'd want it in a fire build

patent hatch
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not really

verbal thistle
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yes really

ripe obsidian
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Also, Dark Communion 2014'd me at the exact same spot 2x in a row

patent hatch
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It feels like a trap skill

rancid geyser
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they cant get more than the 4 stacks

patent hatch
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^^

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Just overkill

rancid geyser
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its not even overkill

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its a wasted talent

ripe obsidian
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People not understanding Wildfire. Iconic.

verbal thistle
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lmao yeah

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idc to talk about it but people just dont undertsand how it works

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busy cs ing

pale prairie
patent hatch
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Idk just take it out and treat yourself to mind in motion

rancid geyser
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enhanced description is wrong then?

ripe obsidian
slim nimbus
ripe obsidian
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Wildfire puts 1 stack on a random enemy

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You then shriek for 6 more stacks

verbal thistle
ripe obsidian
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6 stacks is 24 base damage. 7 is 32.

rancid geyser
slim nimbus
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Damn diving into the files gave the community ED?

buoyant maple
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it's not that accurate still

ripe obsidian
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People just don't understand Wildfire and think it's bad. It's been going on forever.

buoyant maple
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some parts read like jank

rancid geyser
buoyant maple
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some parts leave out important info, etc

rancid geyser
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lmb and shriek until waves is dead

slim nimbus
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I mean you need a node to get down anyway, why not take it

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More fire = good

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Blessed

pale prairie
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Is this EK?

rancid geyser
pale prairie
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Oh my god

verbal thistle
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lmao

rancid geyser
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on inferno

verbal thistle
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I'm all for it

rancid geyser
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literally all you see when someone is on inferno in h40

pale prairie
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lol you do you boo

rancid geyser
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these are the 2 nodes they ever take

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because wildfire is not needed

verbal thistle
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nothing is needed

rancid geyser
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havent seen a single inferno player take it

verbal thistle
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Correlation does not mean causation

pale prairie
rancid geyser
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i think both can be right maybe

pale prairie
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Okay

rancid geyser
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but, realistically the way they explained it to me makes more sense

pale prairie
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I am sure it does

rancid geyser
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if you are spamming shrieks the amount of times you actually get wildfire to apply stacks is probably low

pale prairie
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I really don’t want to get into this discussion for the 10000000th time about Empyric shock vs wildfire. If you trust these people then go for it. Let it be known though that wildfire is used in havoc 40s too. And just cause something is used there doesn’t mean it’s good. cough Bistol bleed stacks FGS special with Macros cough

rancid geyser
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still have the talks on crit vs melee damage in the scum chat on my mind

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the logic some ppl follow is pretty shallow

pale prairie
rancid geyser
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can't really tell which side is actually right on this one

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without detail

barren arrow
rancid geyser
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i used the dumb staff in the way the ppl told me to and it did what they said it would, is basically what my comment comes from

barren arrow
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Lets you not have to worry about fire spreading to the edges of a horde of enemies, you just get some goobers in the center up to 16, and suddenly everyone has 16 stacks of soulblaze :)

rancid geyser
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i spammed, things died, is used empyric while killing everything, the whole experience kinda put me off on the staff tbh

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wasn't the most engaging experience

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i spammed lmb 2 times charged rmb once

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vent

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repeat

pale prairie
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My thing is that wildfire does work outside of shriek range and in places you haven’t even located yet. It also can proc Kinetic Flayer and start a perilous combustion. Meanwhile Empyric shock means the one guy I hit with my dippy LMB fart dies one LMB faster. That’s time wasted instead of just click once and reposition to RMB.

This is my opinion and I really don’t have the energy for a multi post debate

zealous wing
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six takes wildfire

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dom takes wildfire

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every single inferno user i know takes wildfire

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fire spreading more fire is good

rancid geyser
buoyant maple
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even I take wildfire lol

rancid geyser
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i legit got clowned for it lmao

verbal thistle
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welcome to the darktide community

rancid geyser
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was legit told to use empyric

zealous wing
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empyric shock on inferno is the pointless one

pale prairie
rancid geyser
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and it legit did just feel unfun playing it, there was next to no difficulty

verbal thistle
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use what you enjoy, but try to experiment and see what works/how things work. When you want to fully understand use extensive testing and research

buoyant maple
rancid geyser
buoyant maple
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the last time I did it he quit the game for a week

pale prairie
# rancid geyser i legit got clowned for it lmao

It’s clearly designed for EK LMB spam builds. (ES)

Is Wildfire amazing? No but it’s icing on the cake. It won’t carry a build but it’s a nice addition and more synergistic than a talent that encourages you to use a part of the staff that’s more for defense than for killing things.

rancid geyser
buoyant maple
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wildfire is basically "almost everything ur inferno hits will start at 4+ stacks of SB"

ripe obsidian
verbal thistle
pale prairie
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It’s also a fucking passive. I don’t have to do squat it just is happening

buoyant maple
rancid geyser
barren arrow
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nah thats anything and everything on the internet period

rancid geyser
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most i can do is just say what is said is right until i can prove otherwise with some math

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but this is a mechanics thing

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which makes it near impossible for me

ripe obsidian
cosmic cobalt
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then they fixed it

pale prairie
rancid geyser
buoyant maple
cosmic cobalt
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them they gave us the circumcised version

rancid geyser
cosmic cobalt
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I mean crusher 1 shot was funny

rancid geyser
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i sat down for 2hrs! Doing basic algebra

pale prairie
barren arrow
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i miss crusher oneshot wit da shovel

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felt like big man could kill things

rancid geyser
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i stay and just be heavy in h40s, i got my title and badge

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i just wanna play EK now lmao

buoyant maple
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I wouldn't care if some inferno player picked empyric shock over wildfire
them picking inferno in the first place tells me more than their choice between those 2 talents

barren arrow
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well you see

rancid geyser
barren arrow
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picking empyric shock means they're going to spam lmb with the staff

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and that's painful to watch

pale prairie
verbal thistle
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Havent seen an inferno psyker in awhile

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I never accept them

pale prairie
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Inferno is when asked or when I am tired of losing

rancid geyser
barren arrow
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that's very funny

rancid geyser
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i had 1 group of chill players one group of not so chill players

barren arrow
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@verbal thistle wym you just know if someone is an inferno psyker or not lol

verbal thistle
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mod

barren arrow
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yea i got that

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which one

verbal thistle
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I only play havoc 40 and I host

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inspect from pary finder iirc

barren arrow
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ah

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i have inspect from social, didn't know that was a thing tbh

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i know most sparkies cannot be allowed in the kitchen, but what did the purgatus brigade do to you

rancid geyser
rich spindle
verbal thistle
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I can see their current loadout

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and if they have inferno and its insta decl;ine

cosmic cobalt
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it's the most braindead h40 build

pale prairie
barren arrow
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yea that's fair

pale prairie
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Inferno lowers the difficulty

rancid geyser
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see i also play h40 with no mods and shit, so it really annoyed me when these randoms were flaming me while playing with mods bro

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i legit gotta vent just a little

barren arrow
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I've been playing psyker in general less because I just want more challenge

rancid geyser
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mods lag tf out of me, so i have to unmanage my game anytime i play havoc

barren arrow
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yeaaa you pretty much have to either install very few frequently updated mods, or get them updated in the modding discord or somethn for them to actually work properly

rancid geyser
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also what also pisses me off is that "WHY DO I HAVE TO CC THINGS IF THE OGRYN HAS THE ENEMIES ON PERMANENT LOCKDOWN''

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i hate ppl

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im going back to my corner

barren arrow
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@pale prairie But how much of a difference is it really in difficulty between Inferno and a blazing spirit staff?

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either way you be killing crowds super easy

rancid geyser
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inferno puts difficulty to 0 almost, i think every other staff is harder by at least 1 mile

barren arrow
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bowling ball staff with surge + blazing spirit on a melee focused build with true aim

pale prairie
barren arrow
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those crits are guaranteed, peril building faster isn't an issue since the staff is relegated to being a true secondary, and it ends up actually getting hordes up to 6 stacks of soulblaze faster than the inferno staff would be able to

pale prairie
barren arrow
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ok but what isn't countered by 12 boss spawns happening at the same time

rancid geyser
pale prairie
barren arrow
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& ranged shooters like you said, good play is just running at them and using the fire to suppress them until they fall over

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top 10 ways to stop gunner spam:

#1: run at them

pale prairie
rancid geyser
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Was talking about myself tbh, not really disagreeing with you. I tend to care for me before we

buoyant maple
pale prairie
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Hahahahaha

barren arrow
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psyker uh

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Sir this is Psyker chat

rancid geyser
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i have seen the rending blessing and someone shared a build with it yesterday

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i would try it if i cared more for ppl

pale prairie
rancid geyser
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from my last times playing it feels like psyker went from bubble bitch to inferno bitch. Kinda sad [actually was always inferno]

barren arrow
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the most busted is probably still bubbleknight inferno :)

buoyant maple
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blueballman is still mega op

pale prairie
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Depends who you play with. Played with an inferno SG psyker in a 33 havoc and he uuuuh positioned well but without shriek into rotten armor

plucky flax
barren arrow
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Gaze into rotten armor is very dependent on everyone else for CC for sure, but then shriek isn't as heavily staggering as other abilities anyways

rancid geyser
# plucky flax It sucks

i will take your word for it. I dont think I'll ever be willing enough to give up on crit or blaze away

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one more bad experience and im just deleting the staff tbh

ripe obsidian
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rotten armor with randoms makes me sad

ripe obsidian
barren arrow
rancid geyser
rich spindle
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i like it on rot if my team has melee that would benefit from rending

rancid geyser
barren arrow
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and the occasional sticks jumpscare

ripe obsidian
rancid geyser
barren arrow
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or dorfan

rich spindle
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do not speak his name

barren arrow
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lmao

zealous wing
barren arrow
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is Sticks in here?

ripe obsidian
verbal thistle
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whom we must not name

zealous wing
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can you assist with something? kuro also?

ripe obsidian
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what do you need help with?

zealous wing
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someone is fighting a penance for months

pale prairie
patent hatch
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Can asail crit 🤔

verbal thistle
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yes

rancid geyser
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actually, is assail fun in havoc?

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if anyone does it

ripe obsidian
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It can be, yeah

buoyant maple
verbal thistle
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yeah

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I use obscurus assail ep

rancid geyser
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yeah i think EP is the only keystone i don't use

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i should change that

verbal thistle
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missing out

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its really fun to play into

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both brain burst and assail love it

ripe obsidian
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Servers are even better than usual tonight. I've gotten 2 error 2014s and an error 2020 in the span of like 2.5 games

rancid geyser
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@zealous wing gotta re inv i think

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party might be on private

pale prairie
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lmao wait 0.5 game?

slim nimbus
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Deimos feels like the way to go on force swords

ripe obsidian
rancid geyser
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No errors but at least Hexis saw 1st hand on the desync

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XD

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that crusher hitbox

zealous wing
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first time it ever happened to me

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rude

rancid geyser
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dw wait until you see the dog bug

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scary but also funny

zealous wing
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that one i probably have but dogs are always weird

barren arrow
slim nimbus
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For DD does the psyker have to kill them or if they just die it counts

verbal thistle
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psyker nees the killing blow

slim nimbus
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Fug

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I mean so long as everything is on fire there is a good chance you get the kill but still

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In fire reborn or vampire

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I mean setting an entire hoard on fire probably sets you up real pretty, but if the other one is just, literally every person on your team near you getting kill then that seems pretty good too

wind spruce
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If none of the above you dont

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Simples

slim nimbus
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Fair point

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Also now that I am at the end of the tree BB is a lot more spammable which is nice

slim nimbus
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Crystaline will seems...

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Like it could be really good on higher difficulties or completely crap

buoyant maple
radiant mesa
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Bomb vest psyker is meta

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fun meta that is

wind spruce
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Its not fun

slim nimbus
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Oh I am also an asshole, I thought that empowered assail let you just throw unlimited shards for awhile but it's just a free shard per stack

pale prairie
slim nimbus
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Which I guess vs a bunch elites kinda loops back into it

radiant mesa
wind spruce
zealous wing
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@rancid geyser i did clip what i could of the clutch btw, if you want it. it was just over 5minutes apparently so the very beginning is lost, but

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i did remember this time to hit the button

slim nimbus
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Warp unbound with psionic boost does make smite okayish

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But I assume wiping out that much trash fucks with your teams skills

zealous wing
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its less wiping them out and more, killing them slower than they could if the horde flowed into them like its supposed to

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smite is not a good hordeclear tool

slim nimbus
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If your team is competent

zealous wing
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if they're incompetent freezing everything does not help them learn how to be competent

slim nimbus
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I am not playing on super high difficulties yet so the players I get are kind of special sometimes

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Scriers gaze with warp unbound and a psionic boost seems to shred most trash real quick, so it isn't that slow it feels

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But again that's low difficulty

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Whatever the middle one is

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Malefic momentum probably helps that a bit too, I assume the full 5 stacks will work for the duration of their timer while you have a single smite ripping

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Though

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I assume smite can't proc weakspot kills

zealous wing
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cant hit weakspots, cant crit

slim nimbus
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I suppose that simplifies what stuff to take with it

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It isn't meta for sure

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I just want to try and make it work without being shit

ripe obsidian
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60% uptime on the warpy half of Malefic Momentum feels pretty solid to me

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@zealous wing @pale prairie my biggest poke now appears to be 25k

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Not sure what I poked

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But oh, I poked it good

patent hatch
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Quick malefici momentum question

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if my warp fire gets a kill does it count towards it?

ripe obsidian
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It should

patent hatch
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coolio

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Where do you get the mods which give you a scoreboard and shit?

ripe obsidian
patent hatch
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kinda sucks how its not hard coded into steam

rancid geyser
rancid geyser
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trust

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I too can be one of those special players every now and then

zealous wing
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time to see if downloading it to mobile trashed quality even more

patent hatch
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time to see if I can get the mods working

rancid geyser
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hopefully

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i notice the game running a lot worse with mods, and i only use nhanced description and creature spawner

zealous wing
zealous wing
rancid geyser
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that poor victim scum-bucket

zealous wing
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kek

rancid geyser
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had to watch you save him just to die and leave 🙁

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ALSO THE MOD CAN TELL YOU WHEN YOU RUN INTO NEW PLAYERS?!

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or just for ppl you havent played with before?

patent hatch
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tis a struggle tho

zealous wing
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teammate tracker iirc

rich spindle
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played some EP assail on rot

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its pretty good

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it stunlocks all the ragers

patent hatch
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yay got mods to work

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welllll

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I grabbed an ammo

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game crashed

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xD

buoyant maple
patent hatch
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only downloaded

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Scoreboard

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so idk

buoyant maple
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I'll send in dm

patent hatch
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legend

kind jay
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i facetanked 8 bursters in one game

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nurgle wins bro

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im cooked

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and then i barreled myself off gloriana

ripe obsidian
ripe obsidian
rancid geyser
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what's glorious about it is the airtime you get when blasted off of the map

kind jay
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it was a lot of air time

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enough for me to question all my life choices

ripe obsidian
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At least four air time

wind wind
kind jay
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yeah i got the bloodlust and warp sliced one of the pipes

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i went out on my own terms

slim nimbus
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I may have underestimated chain weapons

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The charge up cleaves are stupid dumb damage even vs a force sword

ripe obsidian
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They also have nicer vroom sounds

slim nimbus
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I also just learned what weapon marks are

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So illisi is the weakest of the force swords then?

kind jay
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not necessarily. it's great for hordes

ripe obsidian
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Illisi wishes it were the FGS

thorn cedar
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it is indeed babbys first sword

kind jay
#

yeah fgs replaced it super hard

ripe obsidian
#

Illisi is fine. Just... not a lot of reasons to pick it over FGS, Deimos, or Obscurus

slim nimbus
#

I didn't even know Illisi was a thing until just now

kind jay
#

before fgs i loved illisi. it can handle anything besides like crushers. it's not weak per se

slim nimbus
#

Great sword swipes are amazing for groups and the other one with the charged stabs is buff for single target

#

I don't know what Illisis gimmick is

ripe obsidian
#

It slashes hordes gooder than Deimos or Obscurus

kind jay
#

i remember spamming the alt attack with bloodthirsty

#

it's fun. like doing a baby warp slice

slim nimbus
#

I still don't think I will bother running any guns over a staff though

#

Revolvers feel good however

ripe obsidian
#

Even on meleeker, I use a staff

rich spindle
slim nimbus
ripe obsidian
rich spindle
#

😳

slim nimbus
#

Staffs get no marks, shame

ripe obsidian
#

One day Fatshark might give us a new staff

#

One day

#

I need to be better about using the warp slash to upkeep MM on Meleeker. I end up holding it too long

slim nimbus
#

Wait what is the difference between the two covenants

radiant frigate
kind jay
#

i swap to my ek and fire off a few shots even mid horde

radiant frigate
slim nimbus
#

I farded

ripe obsidian
#

And I forget

long saddle
#

i p much always fire it off right away

ripe obsidian
#

Since swapping to Warp Speed and Perfectionism + whatever the 3 stacks on headshot thing is called, I just wanna zoom and stab

slim nimbus
#

Fully charged great sword slashes are filthy

#

Do melee builds just ignore blitz, and keep passive BR on

dire wharf
#

I'm at work daydreaming about my BFG

ripe obsidian
#

Assail is useful

#

High stagger, kills stuff while you melee, and keeps peril/malefic momentum up

#

I have been using Kinetic Flayer to pop heads

radiant frigate
slim nimbus
#

What staff would a melee focused build use

#

EK for special sniping and fire for fire?

dire wharf
cloud folio
#

any tips for bubble psyker. I am comfortable at havoc 20. but havoc 25 is wrecking me. also EK staff with LMB

cloud folio
slim nimbus
#

But I like psyker only weapons

radiant frigate
#

EK is solid

slim nimbus
#

If I wanted to use pleb normie guns I would run a pleb normie build

#

It's kind of funny how the M2 on EK is better generally than smite

cloud folio
#

EK has high crit

slim nimbus
#

Aside from against a bunch of trash but a sword is better for that

slim nimbus
#

Since it gets what, a native 20% crit?

ripe obsidian
#

21%

slim nimbus
#

I am still unsure where uhhhh

#

Voidestrike comes into play

ripe obsidian
#

2 years ago is when it fell out of play

#

Voidstrike is fine in Auric and below and is mediocre in Havoc

slim nimbus
#

Like shooting a big bowling ball is cool but

ripe obsidian
#

Welcome Shriek into your life

cloud folio
ripe obsidian
#

Or Scrier’s Gaze

cloud folio
#

thats with shreik

ripe obsidian
#

Either one. I do both in H40

cloud folio
slim nimbus
#

Scriers gaze with the no death add on is fun

slim nimbus
cloud folio
slim nimbus
#

Watch the icon

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Once it gets close, stop

long saddle
slim nimbus
#

But also most skills will stop right at 100

cloud folio
#

I have a mod that displays it in big red number at the middle of the screen lmao

cloud folio
long saddle
#

then what's the problem

#

just look at it as free peril usage

slim nimbus
#

I guess if specials are lined up voidstrikes m2 is okay?

cloud folio
#

im pushing it to limit and sometimes it goes over

long saddle
#

don't bother time maxxing

cloud folio
#

no one told me this before

slim nimbus
#

But shit the high crit on EK is seemingly better in pretty much most scenarios

long saddle
#

like the 30% dmg boost is cool and all

slim nimbus
#

And even the M2 on the EK staff can fuck up armored folks

cloud folio
#

so which staff for SG. probably EK

ripe obsidian
#

If you can get the 30% boost, rad, but don't destroy yourself chasing it.

cloud folio
slim nimbus
ripe obsidian
#

Unlimited LMB spam while getting like 70%+ average crit rate is goofy

long saddle
#

sitting at max peril for a long time is better overall

#

since there's so many other talents/blessings that synergize with high peril

#

if you're SG that is, otherwise around 80%

ripe obsidian
#

A more serious answer for bubble, tho, if you want to use it: posture aggressively. Use bubble to shut down enemies more than protect your team. Place it forward, in the places you want to go. Use it as a quick bunker to run forward rather than a hidey-hole to stay in until it drops

#

Measured aggression wins games.

patent hatch
#

a gun

#

Revolve/Lasgun

ripe obsidian
#

EK staff is the best meleeker sidearm

patent hatch
#

🥹

#

but my revolver

dire wharf
#

He who dares wins

ripe obsidian
#

Revolver is fine. Use what you like. But LMB EK is goofy on melee builds

slim nimbus
#

What kind of psyker gives up their super special weapons only they can use

patent hatch
#

ig you could be cursed and run

#

one handed axe

#

and

#

flame staff

#

smh

long saddle
#

I mean it's nice to have a hitscan to use with BB KF

patent hatch
#

^^

dire wharf
#

Autoshredder 4 lyfe

slim nimbus
#

Yeah well

#

Warp unbound lets me use smite for a lifetime without blowing up

#

Which is the worst way to utilize it I assume

#

But its fun

ripe obsidian
slim nimbus
#

Can the M2 on the EK staff crit?

#

Yes

#

I guess the only upside to smite is that its two modifiers are such shit that it's 2 skill points you can allocate somewhere else

ripe obsidian
#

Yes. But it does less damage than it is supposed to

#

Because in the code, the crit scaling is outside of the brackets.

#

🙃

kind jay
#

can you imagine ek with proper scaling

#

i would cream so hard it would un-nurgle the nurgles

patent hatch
#

back to back silent pox burster

#

I wanna cry

slim nimbus
#

Why cry when you can die

#

So the big difference for the force GS marks is when you can do an actual stab

#

They have same same charge swipe it seems

kind jay
#

i am full of taquitos. time to yell at things to death some more

cloud folio
#

gotta tell you. so addicted to playing like a maniac on hive scum. and 100% peril on psyker is kinda bummer

kind jay
#

yall ever notice that people just love to gravitate towards barrels

#

and i love blowing up barrels

#

i mean i dont blow them up because theyre nearby its just a consequence (of their actions not mine)

long saddle
#

they're placed where ppl walk

kind jay
#

no no theyre placed exactly where im going to shoot

wind spruce
summer prairie
#

I've a feeling that there are still only 9 havoc maps in rotation instead of the usual 10

cosmic sigil
wind spruce
cosmic sigil
#

So we have a negative map @wind spruce

wind spruce
static sonnet
#

I keep eyes and ears out for barrels and treat them like land mines. No where near them unless I have to be. Hate losing health for nothing.

rancid geyser
long saddle
#

ive been getting better at not triggering barrels with trauma

mental kayak
#

trigger them on ur team mates

#

what do you mean

icy breach
wind spruce
#

Doing a knock away then pop

#

Doing a knock away after a push for extra distance

#

And most importantly

#

Knocking them back towards your teammate after a push

long saddle
#

ye I mostly try to oneshot them

#

im not too mean when playing

wind spruce
#

Yeah thats like baby trauma skils

#

You should actually know how to knock it around without popping it

icy breach
wind spruce
icy breach
wind spruce
icy breach
#

Don’t toy with it; Kill it

icy breach
wind spruce
#

And if its already close? You should know how to knock it away

icy breach
#

I know cause i have healthbars & seen many situations

quartz barn
#

Use staff bonk to push bursters chadgryn

wind spruce
cosmic cobalt
#

staff bonk was funny when charged strike was broken

quartz barn
#

If only it had more range

icy breach
# wind spruce What if its not close to you

You pop it with trauma obv… watch for your teammates and thats it
Once you learn the radius of them (or use danger sense mod for learning) you can efficiently remove them from the game & relief potential pressure they could cause

icy breach
#

At best they have niche/meme value

cosmic cobalt
#

they genuinely just add special so they can they it in the game

#

most special in vt2 actually have viable use on higher difficulty

#

but not every weapon have one

wind spruce
#

The options are knock it away or let them get hit

#

They are disabled and cant push

#

(Mentally or by a specialist)

marble crater
#

I wanted to make that joke

wind spruce
icy breach
icy breach
#

But only

#

Majority of the time its too late

wind spruce
#

I save my team all the time with burster pushback (and with normal pops ofc)

icy breach
#

HOWEVER; if you are close to that player… just pull your fking melee & push your self againts the burster & push it & then back away; you can push 2 times safely, 3 if you are early pushing & have good mobility & distance (or a fast push weapon like force sword; don’t do the dmg push just tap the push button)

mental kayak
#

and this vet guy would keep telling me things

#

and trying to tell me how to play bla bla bla

#

when in reality he didn't even bring krag spam against rotten armor

#

i casted an explosive barrel on him and flew him off the map

#

he quit

#

we still won the havoc 25

#

barrelmancy is trully wonderfull

wind spruce
icy breach
cursive shell
#

smoke vets always get a pass because it's cool as fuck

icy breach
cursive shell
#

chillest dudes in the game, kinda guys who smoke under the bleachers at high school football games

dusk timber
#

They putting the high in high school

cursive shell
#

I appreciate them because they sacrifice raw dps for crowd control (I will never sacrifice raw dps for crowd control)

dusk timber
#

What about cooked dps

icy breach
cursive shell
#

ima keep it 100 and tell you I've never used or seen a shredder. I'm sure it got something going on but it's not my game

icy breach
jovial juniper
quartz barn
#

Read: smite does no damage so i can do more and flex my scoreboard on discord thumbsup_ogryn

jovial juniper
rigid sky
cloud folio
ripe obsidian
mental kayak
#

Or apparently not

#

Just read Papa comment

#

But you get what I meant

radiant frigate
marble crater
#

Seven was mentioned six times

frail oar
jovial juniper
ripe obsidian
deft stump
ripe obsidian
#

When did Karien become a saint?

deft stump
dire wharf
#

Or at least secretary

deft stump
pale prairie
pale prairie
ripe obsidian
deft stump
pale prairie
dire wharf
#

There are living saints too

#

@ripe obsidian is there anything special about bfg mk vi push attack?

#

I know viii has the nice push poke

mental kayak
dire wharf
mental kayak
#

I hope it’s clear now

#

Holy molly man

wind spruce
#

Im glad you barrelled them

#

Bc thats always funny, no matter the circumstances

dire wharf
#

Some people are funny

mental kayak
dire wharf
#

A guy was talking shit at the start of a match, just because i play on xbox

#

Ended up reviving him twice

rigid sky
# dire wharf I know viii has the nice push poke

The poke is really like a H0 hidden follow-up attack from the push attack rather than the push attack itself iirc, isn't the push attack a force push?

Not really sure on the 6, but it gets that poke stab as its natural H2 anyway, and it gets exclusively single-target heavies in its natural chain

wind spruce
#

Now i go back to sleep whatthefuck_heresy

dire wharf
#

I used that a lot on the mk8

#

I don't know what 6 is

pale prairie
rigid sky
#

I think the only really tricky part of the 6 is the horde combo which is like LLHL loop

pale prairie
#

LLLH

rigid sky
#

but the easy way to tell is when you do a diagonal upwards swing, the next should be a heavy

rigid sky
#

you know if you're doing it right because they all sweep anyway

pale prairie
dire wharf
dire wharf
pale prairie
#

Not perfectly horizontal. Slightly angled but they horde clear as well as the mk 8 in my opinion

rigid sky
#

There's the slight delay because it's an H which does make it technically a bit weaker at pure trash clear

pale prairie
#

The heavy at the end of the chain can also be a light instead that is vertical chop that is nice to pick off elites if the horde is already chopped a bit

rigid sky
#

but it's so worth it for the much better heavy combo

pale prairie
rigid sky
#

it's such a minor difference anyway

pale prairie
#

Just dodge backwards a bit while charging

rigid sky
#

I think the sacrifice is 100% worth it

#

for me the 6 makes the 8 obsolete

#

the 8 is still one of the best weapons in the game

#

but the 6 is just it but better

dire wharf
#

6 and 8 should have a baby

formal harness
rigid sky
#

The secret poke from 8 is amazing, but it's so much clunkier to pull out if you're fighting 10 crushers or a boss

formal harness
#

@deft stump all hail saint karien

rigid sky
#

much more convenient getting it in a heavy chain, with the only other attack in that chain being another very powerful single target overhead

#

8 doesn't even get to start with a single target swing

#

you gotta do that stupid first horizontal heavy first

pale prairie
pale prairie
cosmic cobalt
#

the stab from push is just a massive dps loss over looping h2 h3

#

mostly for bulwark

hoary vapor
pale prairie
rigid sky
#

Or just go 6 and have a better weapon

ripe obsidian
ripe obsidian
ripe obsidian
#

Had a guy a couple weeks ago who kept complaining about us "rushing" when he was the one separated and dying. He was also the H32 or whatever clearance person next to 3 H40s

dire wharf
#

Oh shit

#

Shit!

#

Metro 2039

ripe obsidian
#

I do not understand

dire wharf
#

Sorry, geeked out for a minute

#

New game announced

#

Is the BFG moveset combo pinned?

ripe obsidian
ripe obsidian
dire wharf
ripe obsidian
#

The moveset? I don't have it memorized, really

#

I use heavy spam for single targets and L1 > L2 > L3 > H for hordes. I mostly know when to use the H for hordes because the light swings down-right to up-left, which signals to me that it's heavy time

dire wharf
#

Ooo, now I see, the push follow up for the mk VI is the flat horizontal slash

pale prairie
pale prairie
dire wharf
pale prairie
dire wharf
#

They've been working on it for a couple years already

ripe obsidian
pale prairie
ripe obsidian
#

The book is just a collection of mediocre political speeches by different political entities within the post-apocalyptic metro

#

As Artyom travels from station to station in contrived ways

#

Often running away from the previous place

pale prairie
#

I enjoyed the game. It feels very survival horror esque it has big half-life 2 vibes

#

The games I think did a good job of editing the story to feel less uuuuh boring

ripe obsidian
#

I think I have both 2033 and Last Light from Humble Monthly or other things. I can try them

dire wharf
#

I've only read the beginning of the book. The part about the rat empire sounded creepy, made me think of the skaven

pale prairie
#

Please do. In a way other than fearing running out of ammo and battery it is very soothing vibes. You’re mostly alone with minimal dialogue or exposition

ripe obsidian
pale prairie
ripe obsidian
#

Uhhhhh, I know what you mean. Atomic Heart, maybe?

pale prairie
#

That’s the one

ripe obsidian
#

Never played it. Looked like a less interesting Bioshock Infinite

pale prairie
#

Never ended up trying it

#

Yeah that was my impression too

ripe obsidian
#

Immersive Sim without any of the immersion

#

...I should replay Prey

pale prairie
#

Mmmmm dissociative sim

ripe obsidian
#

Prey, the 2019 or whatever one, is amazing

pale prairie
dire wharf
#

@ripe obsidian did you play stalker 2

ripe obsidian
#

I have not. I played Stalker like 15 years ago, tho

pale prairie
dire wharf
#

2 was the first one I played

#

I'm gonna go there one day

#

Irl

deft stump
dire wharf
deft stump
pale prairie
deft stump
dire wharf
#

@deft stump how many hours do you have in darktide

deft stump
pale prairie
#

You can’t change your name to Saint and not expect prayers

frail oar
ripe obsidian
#

I did. Got like... 60% through and stopped. It was fine, but I never felt the urge to finish

#

It felt like I had seen everything the game had to offer pretty quickly

loud girder
#

prey and dishonored are peak arcane

#

they havent made anything good since then

#

also atomic heart isnt really an immersive sim, its just an action game

#

also not similar to bioshock outside funny haha powers and a novel sci setting, the story is a lot more wacky and unhinged and gameplay is more chaotic

icy breach
#

Also made by russian proxies to fund the war so yeah

loud girder
#

dont care Haha

jovial juniper
ripe obsidian
loud girder
#

i played 1 like 10 times and the second like 5 times

#

the only game i ever tried to "speedrun"

#

other than hitman

ripe obsidian
loud girder
#

its a mish mash of many things but i'd be lying if i say i didnt have fun

#

gameplay felt pretty tight

ripe obsidian
#

I love stealth games like Dishonored or Deus Ex. I accidentally got Mostly Flesh & Steel on my first Dishonored playthrough because I never wanted to use any lethal power

loud girder
#

supreme taste good sir

ripe obsidian
#

And I always play stealth games for total stealth and totally nonlethal. Reload the mission if I get caught

loud girder
#

im more of a lethal stealth guy

#

i like getting in taking out as many targets as possible without ever being seen

#

dishonored is so perfect for that

ripe obsidian
#

Human Revolution, pre patch, frustrated me because I spec'd into hacking and stealth and couldn't kill the bosses.

loud girder
#

especially 1 since most of the tools are geared towards lethal gameplay

ripe obsidian
#

I got soft locked

loud girder
#

i only played post patch thank god

ripe obsidian
#

Yeah, Dishonored 1 is like 95% magical rat murder and 5% teleport when it comes to powers

loud girder
#

1 trick bosses in an immersive sim lol

loud girder
#

i love the first one but the second made your tools fun for non lethal gameplay too

#

and corvo's powers were on roids

#

i got through entire sections by just possessing people lol

dire wharf
loud girder
#

nah its a design flaw

#

the whole appeal of the game is u can beat every area/mission in many ways but you're forced to fight the bosses

#

they patched it to allow stealth players to actually utilize their builds

dire wharf
#

I'm just trying to troll six

ripe obsidian
#

I probably deserve it

marble crater
#

You do

#

(Maybe, I didn't read the chat)

pale prairie
#

You still do

ripe obsidian
#

On the first boss, I think I was able to leave the area and get a lethal weapon and wear them down. The second boss, I was locked in a tiny room plinking at them with my stun gun

loud girder
#

i think i stealth killed like 2 bosses lol

ripe obsidian
#

I need to replay the game

#

So many games to replay

radiant frigate
#

and then in the last mission I'd had enough of their shit and went full lethal

frail oar
#

Its sad they wasted the time and money on redfall

loud girder
#

redfall was their throwaway b team anyway

frail oar
#

I think it was a different arcane sub studio but still

loud girder
#

im sad they split into two studios and a lot of good talent departed

frail oar
#

Yah I think that b team was shuttered right

jovial juniper
ripe obsidian
#

Is Redfall still getting updates?

#

I thought it flopped super hard

ripe obsidian
# radiant frigate dishonored 1 i went mostly nonlethal

Nonlethal is usually a more interesting challenge to me. And it makes me sad to kill NPCs who are just doing their jobs. Random guards and soldiers probably aren't evil. Plus, the nonlethal outcomes for the Big Bads are usually worse than death. :D

radiant frigate
dire wharf
#

@ripe obsidian you probably played some of the splinter cell games

dire wharf
jovial juniper
#

Yes which also flopped really hard

ripe obsidian
jovial juniper
#

We don't talk about Firebreak flop

ripe obsidian
#

Prey is maybe my favorite game that flopped.

cosmic cobalt
#

flopped just mean commercial failure

ripe obsidian
#

A game critic I like did a video essay about it and said, paraphrasing, it was too polished. Everything worked well. It's the last great immersive sim, but it has nothing particularly memorable in the janky sense, so people just don't remember it like they do Skyrim's giant space program or goofy dialogue from San Andreas ("You just had to follow the train, CJ!"). Prey is a good, solid, polished game. The mechanics are great, the plot is mostly solid (spoiler: ||other than the 'it was all a dream' bullshit. I hate that.||), but it didn't do anything that stuck in cultural memory.

ripe obsidian
#

And Arkane, backed by Zenimax, almost certainly spent tens of millions developing it

jovial juniper
#

Too bad
The game is quite peak

ripe obsidian
#

It is.

dire wharf
#

I was like yup, that's a flopper

#

Give the people what they yearn for

jovial juniper
dire wharf
#

Quantum Break 2

ripe obsidian
#

Firebreak was the Control co-op... whatever game, yeah?

#

I don't actually know the gameplay loop

long saddle
#

I need to finish the control DLCs some day

#

tho that means having to boot up epic games launcher

ripe obsidian
#

I did most of them, then got kinda bored

#

The base game is very good. The DLCs did not hold my attention

dire wharf
#

I didn't play them

#

Still working in alan wake 2

marble crater
#

Still working on Quantum Break

dire wharf
#

That game is goated

pale prairie
trail orbit
#

Does this work for voidstrike staff?

image.png
ripe obsidian
#

Yes

pale prairie
ripe obsidian
#

souldrinker is so ridiculous

image.png
#

look at this uptime on rending trauma + shriek

pale prairie
#

Is it uptime if it’s always up?

#

Basically just a passive node

ripe obsidian
#

74% combat uptime, yeah

ripe obsidian
#

48.8% combat uptime with only Perilous Combustion, no Shriek

image.png
dire wharf
#

Yeah what does it have high vibes uptime?

ripe obsidian
#

This is the build I am currently using

image.png
#

LMB EK

#

pewpew

pale prairie
#

Lightning speed huh

dire wharf
#

@ripe obsidian can you help me fine tune mine

marble crater
#

The hell is that screenshot

dire wharf
#

It's the dead sea scrolls

pale prairie
ripe obsidian
#

Scrier's Gaze just went on cooldown while I was overloading, but didn't stop the headsplosion.

#

I am sad.

#

then I headsploded a second time, but that was entirely my fault. I might actually go back to CDR curios on Surge Surge, ha

pale prairie
#

Hah

ripe obsidian
#

I think I hit SG as the headsplosion animation started

dire wharf
pale prairie
#

What’s the difference like 2 seconds?

pale prairie
dire wharf
#

BFG/shredder autopistol

pale prairie
#

Free point yeah?

long saddle
#

try without warp unbound

#

I'd get vulnarable minds

#

I'd also swap surety of arms for immaterial focus

pale prairie
#

Personally I like this but you do you

#

I personally am not a big quietude fan but I know people like it

long saddle
#

I only run quietude on inferno shriek really

pale prairie
#

I don’t even use it there haha too many good talents

long saddle
#

it's nice for havoc

dire wharf
#

Oh yeah i forgot i had vulnerable minds

pale prairie
#

I only use inferno in havoc and only if the group insists

ripe obsidian
#

I do not use Warp Unbound when melee-oriented. I do use it for Surge Surge

#

Unlimited LMB spam

pale prairie
long saddle
#

melee without assail I've learned to live without it

pale prairie
#

Yep with warp ghost weaving isn’t as necessary

ripe obsidian
#

Agreed.

#

Warp Ghost is amazing

#

And KF is more fun for me than Assail, tbh

#

It goes cronch

pale prairie
#

It blue balls me

ripe obsidian
#

I have died twice in this game. I am being a doofus

long saddle
#

it's more satisfying to warp slash a mixed horde rather than switching to assail

pale prairie
pale prairie
marble crater
#

Why don't we have more pixels?

pale prairie
ripe obsidian
cosmic cobalt
cosmic sigil
pale prairie
cosmic cobalt
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but i prefer assail nowaday since i get 1 more talent point and mm stack

pale prairie