psyker-class

[wind spruce]

Sounds hot

[radiant frigate]

is 20% total
never trust obesefish descriptions

[pale prairie]

You can make them bleed with bolt pistol blessing

[wind spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/ugh-stanley-hudson-rolls-eyes-eye-roll-whatever-gif-3552682

[formal dew]

I use surgical and deadly accurate on my bistol

[dire wharf]

I didn't care for shred at first, because of the chain hit mechanism, but now I feel as if being more mindful of when I'm swinging has improved my melee by a lot

[wind spruce]

Its alright on a slow weapon like FGS

But its fucking horrible on tax or even fs

[formal dew]

Another note, what are the best staffs?

[wind spruce]

I hate it

[formal dew]

I have an inferno one which is fun but the lack of range is horrible

[dusk timber]

anything thats not voidstrike

[formal dew]

having to rely on BB for long range is killing me

[wind spruce]

Inferno > voidblast > electro > voidstrike

[formal dew]

Is that the blue bubble staff

[dusk timber]

voidstrike is the bowling ball

[formal dew]

I thought that one was good?

[wind spruce]

Its an orb you cretins

[formal dew]

just had issues with map geometry

[wind spruce]

It used to be goated

[dusk timber]

its easily the worst of the staves

[mental rock]

The staff with map geometry issues is voidblast

[wind spruce]

And its fine for heresy and lower

[radiant frigate]

it's good in any non-havoc

[formal dew]

What does electro do again, I know the other ones but it's been months since I used electro

[mental rock]

And you can work around the geometry, it's still better than voidstrike

[formal dew]

I used smite once and hated it

[dusk timber]

its pretty much an infinite ammo gun

[wind spruce]

Even @pale prairie is good in auric

[dire wharf]

I put all 4 staffs through extensive testing, to see what would become my main secondary.. I ended up going with shredder autopistol

[dusk timber]

you use it for the m1 spam mostly

[formal dew]

Right but how lmao

what does it actually do

[dusk timber]

it shoots

[mental rock]

You left click with it and hit people with balls

[wind spruce]

With electro you put surge blessing on it, download the full auto mod, then hold m1 all game

[formal dew]

is it some palpatine shit or is it a blow specific person up type thing

[dusk timber]

you dont really use the shock part much

the strength of EK is the m1

[mental rock]

Its supposed to be like a single target focused smite, but it's way better to just left click heads with it

[wind spruce]

I always forget its even an option

[formal dew]

TF is M1 and left clicking

I'm a console player, put this in console terms

[dusk timber]

Right trigger

[mental rock]

The primary attack

[formal dew]

so the basic attack

[dusk timber]

yes

[mental rock]

Yes

[dusk timber]

you dont really do the charged with it

[formal dew]

the only reason you'd use electro is for the basic attack it shares with every other staff?

[mental rock]

It has a better basic attack

Because of the Crit stat

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/pondering-orb-gif-26002992

[dusk timber]

its way stronger than the others

[formal dew]

eh, good enough for me to not use it then

I want variety, not just click one button

[dusk timber]

its basically a gun with infinite ammo

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/ben-stiller-simple-simple-jack-jack-make-me-happy-gif-17967590895410737240

[dusk timber]

the other staves are charged attack spam instead

EK is the only one you really use the primary

[mental rock]

Yeah if you want variety electro is actually the most distinct of the staves ironically

[dusk timber]

and inferno primary is completely different anyways

[wind spruce]

Yeah voidblast, inferno and strike are so alike

[formal dew]

yeah I don't mind inferno

[mental rock]

Yep

[pale prairie]

Look charge attack on EK is great for bursting pushing and cc juggling some enemies

[formal dew]

It's just the range issue with it

I don't like being forced to use brain burst to target long range

[wind spruce]

Bursting

[formal dew]

even if I get 3 DD stacks for some reason

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-stanley-did-i-stutter-sarcasm-gif-3537210

[wind spruce]

I already told you BB hits weakspots

[formal dew]

Yeah I know

[wind spruce]

But this is a fair reason to dislike the inferno staff

[formal dew]

I thought you'd only get the two stacks though

[wind spruce]

Its a horrific experience

[formal dew]

oh that's why, it's 2 additional stacks, not one

nvm lol

[pale prairie]

It’s phenomenal power until the snipers gunners show up. Shriek can help somewhat

[formal dew]

So why is the orb staff bad now

what did fat shark change

[wind spruce]

Its boring

[cosmic cobalt]

bad in havoc

[formal dew]

I don't play havoc

[wind spruce]

Oooh im throwing blue flames, look at me

Pathetic.

[cosmic cobalt]

shit cannot hit bp and aoe isn't good enough

trauma have stagger

purge have infinite cleave

[radiant frigate]

then you're good to go
enjoy the arcane cannon

[pale prairie]

They increased the hitmass of some enemies and the density of hordes and made several CC immune modifiers

So that’s why in havoc it is pain but it is perfectly fine in anything lower

[wind spruce]

Hey remember when crushers had like 7 hp

[formal dew]

Ah, ok

[wind spruce]

Gl one shotting them now even with a surge proc headshot

[pale prairie]

Remember when a single voidstrike ball could cause a chain of true strike and surge procs?

[wind spruce]

Hnnnngg

[dusk timber]

technically trauma is also infinite cleave since its aoe

[pale prairie]

Those were the days

[pale prairie]

It was my favorite staff for over 300 hours.

[wind spruce]

I miss assail generating multiple stacks of true aim per cast

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-nation-fire-avatar-the-last-airbender-gif-14967018

[dusk timber]

what about fake aim

[wind spruce]

They're called fatSHARK

Literally from the opposite of fire, dumby

[formal dew]

Shark Nation

[pale prairie]

Yeah but with the continued dominance of inferno and inferno builds clearly they are the fire nation

[formal dew]

I'd be down with that, honestly

[pale prairie]

Don’t you get it? THEY ARE LETTING THIS HAPPEN

[wind spruce]

Ok you got me there

[formal dew]

new staff that shoots shark mouths

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/conspiracy-theory-explaining-gif-12901943281765003956

[formal dew]

charged attack just summons a shark head to chomp an elite

[wind spruce]

Its because they're corrupt

Something something hive scum

[cosmic cobalt]

your mom have infinite cleave

[wind spruce]

Not cool man

[radiant frigate]

new staff that steals your fries and drinks your milkshake

[pale prairie]

“Hmmmm inferno is pretty dominant because it scales infinitely into density……INCREASE THE SPAWNS ANDHORDE DENSITY”

[cosmic cobalt]

it's mostly the hitmass increase tbh

[radiant frigate]

increase hit mass AGAIN

[wind spruce]

His mum probably smell like cheese

[pale prairie]

Honestly hive scum is so fun and broken that I finally gave them money unlike for arbiter

[radiant frigate]

(fuck you havoc)

[pale prairie]

22nd moebian incoming

[radiant frigate]

arbites is snooze class

[wind spruce]

Proud of you

[pale prairie]

It’s just all Ogryn

[wind spruce]

Ok no more talking anymore I have to go to bed

[pale prairie]

I hate that I finally played with tac axe

[cosmic cobalt]

arby is fun as frontliner

[pale prairie]

I can see why it’s popular

[cosmic cobalt]

dog are honestly whatever

[wind spruce]

It's groovy

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/its-over-chainsaw-man-asa-yoru-asa-mitaka-gif-27390499

[ripe obsidian]

Bed is for the weak! Do you see beds on the Mourningstar?

[pale prairie]

It’s true they don’t sleep

[wind spruce]

They're in the section you're not allo- wait, no, you're right. There's no beds on the mourningstar.

[ripe obsidian]

I am also an insomniac lately

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/you-couldn’t-live-thanos-endgame-back-to-me-you-could-not-live-gif-16221515858415007908

In this case thanos would be havoc 40 wins

[pale prairie]

Don’t need them. They have designated story time zealots and shoutie vets to perk you right back up. They just put you in a soundproof room and they yell at you till you feel better

[wind spruce]

Stupid zealots

[radiant frigate]

the shouting will continue until toughness improves

[dire wharf]

How come when I pick a mission to run, sometimes it puts me in a mission that is already in progress? Shouldn't that only happen if I pick quickplay?

[dusk timber]

quickplay is just any mission available on the board

[cosmic cobalt]

you can get qp into mission failure

[dusk timber]

true

had that happen a few times lol

[pale prairie]

I know it’s bad when I see people type “GG and NT” in the chat while still loading in

[ripe obsidian]

I didn't play any Havoc last night

[verbal thistle]

splat

[pale prairie]

Oh just normal insomnia

Condolences

[icy breach]

Floor

[ripe obsidian]

Your poor back

[icy breach]

I saw the screen above; do you actualy need havoc forged title or anything else?

[icy breach]

If you lay on the side & put your arm under your head you good

I know

i did it

[ripe obsidian]

I have slept on the floor in the past, yes

[formal dew]

Does the surge blessing apply to a staffs secondary attack

[marble crater]

Only Voidstrike

[pale prairie]

God if it worked on EK

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-26735574

[formal dew]

hm

thank you

I like voidstirke a lot ngl

being able to just explode people at will is great

I'm gonna try the electro one now

[marble crater]

That sounds more like Voidblast

[formal dew]

No the cannonball

[marble crater]

Ok good

[long saddle]

I use poxburster to show off that im the bestest killer out there :^)

[radiant frigate]

no i have it, i don't use it

[pale prairie]

Mama Hadron said so?

[neon laurel]

I like when poxbursters blow me a safe distance away from the mutant or hound that had been charging at me. 😁

[crisp ether]

The most annoying shit is seeing people specifically scoping out those titles

I remember applying for a 35 the other day with no title

Declined

Put on True Survivor

Accepted

While that, I've seen

Some SHIT from people wearing that title that tells me that they did not get that shit of their own merit

[radiant frigate]

when i play havoc i just apply to 20-ish

and then i watch the team dismantle itself in real time

[crisp ether]

Applying to 20s is always with the expectation that a clutch is gonna have to happen

I really feel for the hosts trapped in ELO hell there

Because usually the hosts are trying their darn best ime

But then they just get some of the worst teammates I have ever had the experience of seeing in game

It's actually nuts how bad some of them are

I still not so fondly remember a 22 where a vet legit sabotaged the entire run because they rushed ahead and caused a really bad spawn sandwich. I tried to tell them not to do that beforehand politely but they insisted on actively saying they were gonna ignore me

Ogryn broke character to call the guy a "fucking moron"

[dire wharf]

I've yet to lose a single havoc match

Because I haven't tried it yet

[cursive shell]

cleared my first 40

no bubble necessary

[safe mist]

what was your build

[cursive shell]

six's inferno shriek recommended psyker

[safe mist]

Im new to the game but in my experience at all diffculies people run out of the bubble lol. I think I'd rather have shriek just so I dont blow myself up.

bubble is probably far better for premade comps that are coordinated.

[zealous wing]

on inferno, not really

if bubble, run bubbleknight, if inferno, run shriek

[safe mist]

so bubble isnt that big a deal?

[brazen compass]

ehhhh nah

[zealous wing]

its not as useful as shriek on inferno

[safe mist]

or more that its just better to use a different build Got it.

[zealous wing]

yeah

[long saddle]

it's gotten even worse, but learning shriek just makes you a lot better

[zealous wing]

inferno without shriek is much more sad than shriek without inferno, to put it simply

[safe mist]

yeah Ive noticed from experience on trying this staff out. You really want to burn as long as possible lol

Whenever I am lucky enough to get a team thats coordinated enough to keep pressure off me so I can let it burn, the build works quite well. Imagine that.

at least I am getting better at lasting longer alone lol Psyker sure forces you to master the art of "dont touch me"

[zealous wing]

lol true

[long saddle]

I did practice a lot of shriek inferno in auric and auric maelstrom before I ever ran it in havoc

[safe mist]

what blitz do you use with Inferno Sherik build. I see brain buster being used but frankly I stick with assil since its quick too shoot out and keep my peril high.

how do you use brain buster effectively?

[long saddle]

you run BB with KF

ie it just auto proccs every 12 seconds on elites and specials

[zealous wing]

dont need assail, since inferno is already your hordeclear

[long saddle]

I only pull it out manually to snipe something

[safe mist]

so what blitz do you run with Inferno Shriek?

[zealous wing]

BB

[long saddle]

yeah BB is standard for inferno

[safe mist]

ah is it just to pick off snipers and other ranged specalists?

[zealous wing]

and kinetic flayer to autokill

[long saddle]

on havoc there's usually someone else on your team that handles them 99% of the time

but sometimes you need to help out

[cursive shell]

need a mod that replaces the shriek voice with the wazzup from the bud light commercial

wazzaaaaaaa!!!!!

[zealous wing]

for me that sometimes is so often i run KR as well

[cursive shell]

shriek is goated just for being a panic button if nothing else. so embarrassing to blow yourself up and shriek makes it a non issue

[long saddle]

I do occassionally blow up, since I shriek so often that it's not always there to save me

but you live and learn

[cursive shell]

it has made me much worse at bubble so it cuts both ways

[long saddle]

I mean I never ran bubble outside of havoc

and now I never run it

[safe mist]

I feel less bad now about blowing my self up lol

[cursive shell]

yeah I be blowing myself up with bubble on auric maels

[ripe obsidian]

this is the way

[zinc phoenix]

Profile pic really fits this comment

[cursive shell]

lucy lawless is my spirit animal

and my girlfriend

back off!

[serene mountain]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a0a667cd-4d49-4f68-8cf8-2f1ee57eab29/melee-with-walls-or-scriers-havoc-40-focus

with builds like this and scrier's gaze where you quell so much peril in the horde

[verbal thistle]

I think I know that guy

[serene mountain]

Is the play to be in Scrier's 90% of the time, or

[verbal thistle]

always gaze

[serene mountain]

how should you be managing things like Warp Rider in this kind of set up?

[verbal thistle]

just let it flow, and try to be high

[serene mountain]

gotcha, alright

[neon laurel]

I tried scriers gaze for a while, and it was fun, but I felt naked without my wall/bubble

[rich spindle]

Bait build made by a noob

[serene mountain]

me trying to figure out if this is layers of irony or completely genuine:

[cursive shell]

the guy who made it seems to be really good at the game

https://old.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/1qceyb7/psyker_shenanigans_havoc_40/?ref=share&ref_source=link

[rich spindle]

That’s ai

[cursive shell]

but a part of me thinks he wouldn't have had to clutch if he was running anything else and had proactively killed everything

[cursive shell]

I'm listening and learning

[pliant talon]

I was running with a psyker doing a sword build like that. While I'm sure it was fine damage, he would sometimes get one shot by the rotten armor horde. And also the 21st horde would pile up

after 2 attempts he switches to flame staff, and wow, we finish the havoc 40 after he does that. lol.

[cursive shell]

kinda build I'd run in a 10-20 to stunt on em and teach the kids all wrong

have them chasing the completely incorrect meta

[rich spindle]

Yup. Always go flame staff, otherwise you end up doing boring useless stuff like dodging and blocking

[neon laurel]

I do love flamestaff. I got a good roll on one a long time ago and haven't touched another staff since.

[pliant talon]

I actually think if he helped more with the 21st horde stuff we would have been better off. Which is wild to me because iirc the last time I tried that build in an auric it was great at clearing hordes. Not sure why he wanted to focus on rotten.. Just clear out the horde while I keep the rotten armor busy on the ogryn. Then come back and beat them up

[cursive shell]

my single bit of flair is I will always and only parry the crusher overhead. outside of that it's just flames and skitter away, punch in / punch out

the timing is like, as lenient as dodging, and as a bonus if anything else is hitting you you'll parry that instead and just die

what's the class for cool APM kids? my gut says it's zealot or maybe scum but I wouldn't be surprised if it's actually ogryn

[pure plinth]

he was sword, right?

so he still has the warp slash

so... he could use that on the horde

[cursive shell]

I want the yamcha trains 100x harder than anyone else to do maybe 25% damage, but it looks sick af

[rich spindle]

Psyker that spams their blitz is probably the highest apm thing in the game

Go like Tac axe, assail, 2x wall, ek staff

You’ll be playing a Beethoven symphony on keyboard

[cursive shell]

oh yeah just fuck my shit up

I haven't touched a single one of those things you listed

[kind jay]

i prob lmb several thousand times with surge surge scrier

every match

[pliant talon]

Yeah, guess it just wasn't enough, or he was so focused on the rotten armor that he couldn't build stacks.

it's just one of those things. You can get away with it on some maps/modifiers, but not all! I can't bring a pickaxe to rotten armor, shockingly, lol.

[spice aurora]

he sucks, maybe run sometiing better and team wouldnt have died in first place

[ripe obsidian]

nah, he's an imposter

[safe mist]

So Im new to the game and suck at psyker, but is it odd I have had the most success with this build:

is there a better way to share a build? Anyway. I dont know if warp siphon or Empowered Psyhics would be better

[pale prairie]

its easier to screen shot on Darktide Gameslanter

[verbal thistle]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor

Darktide build website

[brazen compass]

Erhm your build is empty

[verbal thistle]

erm

https://tenor.com/view/those-who-know-cat-cat-meme-those-who-gif-2719346752565069035

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1272804331497979935/1450700850132418651/Kill_All_Smykers.gif

[safe mist]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a181d2a3-ac05-4432-8d1f-ad3c3317793d/scuff

the weapons I use are a force sword, either kind and a gun, currently the Viglent Autogun . I dont even use a staff. Its been getting me killed so I've just been trying to survive with melee and I do think its making me better at keep away.

Ive no idea if warp Siphon would be better then Empowered Psionics.

would essence Harvest be good for even more toughness regen over what empowered psionics is giving me. On the other hand, warp ghost feels like its been a game changer for my surviability.

I also like just a dream because again, Ive notice it help me not die to a light breeze

[spice aurora]

u tried disrupt dediny?

[safe mist]

disrupt destiny, where is that?

oh I see, no I havent used that keystone

Oh I see what you mean. If I am using a gun, might as well got the path the has gun syngery. Except the gun is just there to deal suppression fire vs a large crowd of ranged units and pick off the odd sniper. I mostly kill everything with a mix of melee and assail spam

looking at the pinned guide, I guess this is like a suboptimal Melee Psyker lol

[spice aurora]

if u want a worse one use minee, its somewhere in the havoc list

[dark pagoda]

kinetic flayer i love you

i dont even take out brain burst anymore

it feels too slow

but kinetic flayer you are worth 2 talent points

i wonder if taking the fast brain bursts is worth the talent point to actually use brain burst a little

i feel like no

there's not a whole lot of good brain burst targets

any variation of gunner gets domed by the las pistol instantly if its too far to be cleaved in half

speaking of fatshark please enable bisection for the force greatsword like the relic blade

@verbal thistle who are good brain burst targets ,,,,

[ripe obsidian]

Played some Shield Tauntgryn tonight in H40. It went better than it could've. I think I survived fairly well, but I am not great at closing distance against shooters with shield mobility

[dark pagoda]

as far as im aware ogryn doesn't have a whole lot of options in general to deal with shooters

have to rely on your team

shield at least lets you not get toughness chipped then health damaged

[kind jay]

https://tenor.com/view/darktide-warhammer-40k-ogryn-rock-gif-10374488513425509350

[ripe obsidian]

So long as stamina holds up, yeah

I maybe should've taken the frag instead of rock for Emergency Situations

[dark pagoda]

frag is also my preference

[zealous wing]

rock was real handy to have

[dark pagoda]

im unsold on rock

[zealous wing]

but yeah frag also has its place

[dark pagoda]

its fairly slow to take out and slower to throw

not like ogryn has any fast alternatives, to be fair

[zealous wing]

rock has instakill override on certain things

[pliant talon]

don't forget to special action plant your shield to absord the enemy fire while your team takes them out!

[ripe obsidian]

I also think I should've communicated my plan better. I would taunt and pull the rot hordes away from the team, but the team wanted to follow me, whereas I wanted to pull them so my team could stab them in the back

[ripe obsidian]

Risky in Havoc when enemies are coming from all sides

[dark pagoda]

not sure if its still true but when i played ogryn was in a bad place

[verbal thistle]

Both shotgunners, Both gunners, Bulwarks, Reapers, Sniper, Both bombers, Both flamers, trapper, dog, burster (sometimes)

idk if I forgot a special

[dark pagoda]

default brain burst is 3 seconds right

i feel like i can kill all of those in under 3 seconds

though i forget you can like hold click on a sniper then kill it while in cover, that could save you some time

maybe id use brain burst more with the talent to supercharge it when you use your ability

[zealous wing]

yeah not having communication was a little rough

[dark pagoda]

is there a better movement stick secondary than heavy las pistol

[pliant talon]

you should be taking that weapon swap speed on most builds to get no hurtin frens

[dark pagoda]

even with the swap speed i find it slow

i havent played ogryn super hard in a while though

[safe mist]

nevermind, I test with warp siphon and warp ghost really wants you to be using Empowered Psionics or I barely get to use assail.

[zealous wing]

am confused

why?

as in, why do you feel thats the case?

also, yeah for meleeker DD is the keystone we generally go with, it does also have gun synergy but we run it on surge surge (an electrokinetic build) as well

oldish clip but, you can use assail fairly freely, even with ghost

this is a malefic momentum example clip but it applies

and, DD is great on an assail heavy build as well like my fidget build, this is the speedy variant, i also run a version with EP, but, which keystone i run depends on if i want assailspam or speed

basically its, EP buffs only your blitz, while DD buffs all of your damage

and, if you ran scriers instead of shriek, you'd be able to take warp unbound from scriers to spam warp attacks risk free for 10 seconds plus the 1.5 second grace period from when scriers ends, 11.5s total

[ripe obsidian]

Warp Ghost is amazing on any Psyker build

Except maybe Bubble Knight

[buoyant maple]

warp ghost is almost op

[ripe obsidian]

Psyker? OP?

You jest

[buoyant maple]

psyker gets free +3 stamina from talents

[ripe obsidian]

We are just poor, squishy wizards. We need more stamina than the hardened soldiers.

[buoyant maple]

if psyker had longer stam regen delay then yea justifiable

but on a 0.5s delay, +3 stam from talents is just crazy

[ripe obsidian]

I mean, I do genuinely agree

Psyker and Vet should swap stam regen delays

And vet shouldn't be forced to take nodes to get a usable stam regen delay

I don't get why Psyker has the best stamina regen, the best toughness regen, easy access to damage resist nodes, and so on.

There should be some level of glass on the glass cannon wizard

[buoyant maple]

it is useable at base

[buoyant maple]

best toughness replenishment is vet, but the rest yes

[ripe obsidian]

Because the elite thing stacks, I imagine?

[buoyant maple]

CK is all individual instances

plus exe stance + CaB + melee kills

ur getting somewhere in the ballpark of 30~40% of max toughness per second

[ripe obsidian]

That is what I meant, yes. The elite kill thing stacks on itself

[buoyant maple]

which is around 2x the next best

[ripe obsidian]

So for good veterans, it's the best toughness regen per second.

[buoyant maple]

and this is not a dedicated toughness replenishment setup either

just base lvl by stance + CK

on a dedicated setup with ET + TV ur getting much higher

[ripe obsidian]

What if I suck at Vet

[buoyant maple]

albeit ranged vet's point economy is abysmal dogshit pro max plus ultra

[ripe obsidian]

Sounds like Ubiquiti's naming scheme.

[buoyant maple]

no I think it's just for anyone who understands game fundamentals

vet is around 2~3x the other classes' toughness replenishment

[ripe obsidian]

Then why do I always struggle with toughness when I play vet?!

D:

[wind spruce]

Psyker has an easy 20% from warp exp, DD, scriers and mettle + quietude generating insane amounts all x 1.25 from WG

Or if you're running a build that uses soulstealer its just a crazy amount in active combat

[buoyant maple]

it's fairly high (a big chunk of that is DD) but it's not at vet lvl

[buoyant maple]

iron will & close order drill

coherency makes a big difference for vet's TDR

or just, kill more elites & specials for CK lol

For example if u pay attention to my toughness in this short clip I can just instantly recover more than 50% of max toughness

(blame discord + phone double compression for vid quality lol)

[pale prairie]

https://giphy.com/gifs/grid-bright-colors-6x6-emdRjklrE9VZhwIeej

[ripe obsidian]

I mean, I can do that with Psyker on Soulstealer pretty easily

[buoyant maple]

yea soulstealer op

warp atks too good at killing groups quickly

[wind spruce]

Id love to know exactly how much peril is being generated/quelled and therefore how valuable quietude is

[drowsy scaffold]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[wind spruce]

Your mod reads the peril on screen, right @ripe obsidian?

[ripe obsidian]

On screen? No, it should grab the info directly from the game

[wind spruce]

Oh, nice. I have no idea how anything code related works i just knew uptime had some issues with buffs not appearing on the buff bar.

So does that mean your mod could track exact numbers even with generating/quelling happening almost simultaneously?

[ripe obsidian]

It should be able to, but it only pulls the data once every 1-5 seconds, because I didn't want it to be a resource hog

so it could measure the difference between those and calculate it out

[safe mist]

psyker is quite the late bloomer. Between Just a Dream and Warp Ghost I dont feel entirely made of glass.

is there any point to vulnerable minds if I am ussing Assail? Does Malefic momentum make a difference in an Assail build or should I take warp spliting, I am not sure how much value cleave provides.

[ripe obsidian]

Malefic Momentum only matters if you're swapping between melee/gun and warp attacks regularly. If you are not, then it is not very useful.

Vulnerable Minds is not particularly good if you're strictly using Assail, no. But it's a very strong talent in general.

Warp Splitting is a very good talent for Assail.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3094028505

Kuli's guide has a chart about Assail cleave.

[safe mist]

ok so thats why they just take assail without any of its subnodes. Warp Splitting is just more effective.

[ripe obsidian]

Yes, it is always as good as Ethereal Shards, and sometimes twice as good, as I understand it.

Though paired with Empowered Psionics, it can be up to 4x as good, I believe.

Or more? I am not sure.

Looks like Empowered Psionics + 75%+ peril Warp Splitting hits 8 targets. Whereas EP + ES is 6. So, no, just double. It is too late for my brain to do even simple math, I guess

And if below 25% peril, WS is 5 targets versus ES's 6, so slightly worse.

[kindred onyx]

Does FGS wave attack count as a warp attack?

[dire wharf]

No

[kindred onyx]

darn

is it just psyker blitzes and staff attacks then?

[dire wharf]

And soul fire I believe

[rich spindle]

yes

[long saddle]

shock maul special action is the funny one

[wind spruce]

That would massively underestimate the numbers on a scriers build with quell talents. Would want it to be every 0.1s atleast.

[wind spruce]

EP doubles the ES value

Weird stuff

[rapid goblet]

does these two greatsword blessings work together? would wave apply soulblaze?

[long saddle]

no

blazing spirit always bad

[wind spruce]

Blazing spirit cant proc from the fgs special

[long saddle]

warp slice also not worth it when you have stuff like unstable power, shred, and precog

[radiant frigate]

no, avoid both of them
blazing spirit is only worth it on one weapon and it's trauma staff

[rapid goblet]

strange, I love warp slice

[wind spruce]

Why? It barely does anything

You might aswell whisper in the wind. It's more effective than warp slice.

[white valley]

I LOVE SOULBLAZE TRAUMA

[icy breach]

And even then rending flurry does more than blazing crit…
#buffblazing

[timid brook]

Its because to apply it you need a crit and on most things a crit will kill them already

[dire wharf]

Trench Reznor looking fresh AF

[jovial juniper]

No
This version of blazing spirit is melee only
The Warp Wave isn't melee

The blazing spirit from staves are ranged only

So Fatshark should just

Mash them both together

Then it would probably work on warplash

Heh
Warplash

https://tenor.com/view/whiplash-gif-9431479052148052111

[dusk timber]

Wash

It would also work on the staff bonks :3

[frail oar]

This guy NINs

[dire wharf]

\m/

[dusk timber]

Nine inch nails?

[dire wharf]

Yes

My psyker's name is TrenchReznor

[cloud folio]

how do you inspect your squad's build??

[dusk timber]

Mods i think

[cloud folio]

Mine's bloodbride

which mods?

[dusk timber]

Idk i play on console

[proper spoke]

I went with Psykerpath

[cloud folio]

is there any RMB electronikinetic staff build that doesn't generate much peril

[jovial juniper]

There's on that generates less peril

Involving Empyric Resolve

And the small -5% peril nodes

Oh wait

They did remove the small nodes

At least most of them

The rest of the build is whatever

You just need to reach the 3 highlights

[zinc phoenix]

play a different staff

the whole point of the right click build is to zap things that give you warp charges to shriek fire everywhere as fast as possible while generating enough peril to fuel all the fire

if you play it low peril you will have a staff with ass damage and no damage bonuses

so at that point literally anything else would be better

[jovial juniper]

Oh and the extra Warp charges one

Since Inner Tranquility is -8% per Warp charges

[cloud folio]

LMB TK staff is actually great

saw some RMB builds that were insane damage

[zinc phoenix]

Both of those are high peril

You are asking about a low peril option

[cloud folio]

things that dont generate way too much peril that gets 100% quickly

[zinc phoenix]

The whole point of the stick is getting as high a peril as possible so that you can use the peril to do stuff because peril is a resource

[jovial juniper]

Notice how I'm not pathing towards Scrier's Reality Anchor

Because RA is trash

Even if it technically would fit your low peril gen needs

[dusk timber]

What is that one

[zinc phoenix]

If you want a low peril option flame stick is pretty ideal. You can have great damage while generating minimal peril

[jovial juniper]

A Scriers Warp Syphon build would unironically go hard even for M2

But then you'd have to pick Precognition instead of RA

Because RA is trash

https://tenor.com/view/rip-bozo-gif-22294771

[wind spruce]

Battle med

[jovial juniper]

Ngl

Totally forgot it exists

[dusk timber]

Battle mid

[cloud folio]

this is the most fun build I played on psyker

just brain burst 5 specials

hit some then rinse and repeat

[pale prairie]

Battle Casino?

[atomic echo]

i made an EP build to penance hunt a week ago and it ended up being really strong for this exact reason. minces everything in damnation and i'm considering taking it into auric now tbh

[dark karma]

Hi there just to say I am slowbrain low iq starting to play psycker and having great time to fail my finger coordination trying to do some dodge slide charge shit and relying alot on my mate to put me up, but i still feel pyscker is a blast to play

[jovial juniper]

Truw

Yrue

Truw

Duck

True

There you go

[dusk timber]

Duck

[jovial juniper]

It was supposed to be fuck

https://tenor.com/view/shy-guy-gf-nervous-bf-gta-gif-14051492538696661823

[pale prairie]

This is why he had to change from perfectionist

[jovial juniper]

No

I already said why I changed

Side note Perfectionist is bugged atm

[pale prairie]

Wait what is the bug?

[pale prairie]

Buddy there is a whole language and world filled with grass outside of Darktide

https://tenor.com/view/cat-duck-pat-head-cute-gif-9356050541034485175

[jovial juniper]

Apparently it's not proccing on live games
But it is proccing on Psykhanium

[jovial juniper]

I know

I work there

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/sympathy-deepest-sorry-for-your-loss-prayers-rose-gif-15284751782267351188

Interesting

[long saddle]

I don't know if I've had this kind of killcount on auric maelstrom before

[pale prairie]

Good job and RIP your ears that’s a lot of trauma boom

[ripe obsidian]

It does. @dire wharf

"'Warp attack' refers to a list of attacks that have their damage types denoted as warp_damage_types: Force Swords' activated attacks, Force Greatswords' activated attacks, Force Staves' LMB, Force Staves' RMB, Electrocution (Smite, Electrokinetic Staff RMB, Shock Maul special action), Soulblaze, Brain Rupture / Brain Burst, and Assail."

[dire wharf]

I could have sworn I asked this question a few weeks ago and was told no

[ripe obsidian]

Then someone was wrong

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/station19-earl-davis-boy-times-have-changed-times-have-changed-garrett-morris-gif-25307421

And that someone is never Six

[deft stump]

It's both ranged and warp.

I wonder if some weird ppl think it can only be one or the other.

[thorn cedar]

It's an easy trap to accidentally fall into.

"Hey does this warp damage node affect the warp slice?"
"yes it is warp damage"
"ok thanks"
anyone scrolling by now has the chance to think the slice is only warp damage through this context

[dire wharf]

To be honest I hadn't even considered if it was considered ranged or melee

[deft stump]

Well, now you know. XD

[ripe obsidian]

Nah, I am a reliable source of information because I admit when I am wrong and take pains to rectify it

[pale prairie]

What?!? Intellectual integrity? IN MY DARKTIDE DISCORD?!?

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-impossible-marvel-shocked-gif-15104180

[ripe obsidian]

My Beloved says our integrity is all we have

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/emperor-text-to-speech-kaldor-drago-wizard-secrets-gif-27361744

[dire wharf]

@ripe obsidian from now on I'm just going to refer to you and ainz

[verbal thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/sprout-dandys-world-sprout-dandys-world-gif-15236428167153607430

[dire wharf]

@verbal thistle it's the ethical thing to do!

[verbal thistle]

I just work here

Someone is watching me.....

[jovial juniper]

https://youtu.be/7YvAYIJSSZY?si=nV1Pcupf6h7NZftC

[dire wharf]

Can I pet that dawg

[radiant frigate]

does that mean the shocky shotty for arbites has warp attacks

[ripe obsidian]

Possibly?

[zealous wing]

arby shock maul special?

arby shield aoe stun?

[jovial juniper]

No no

But yes

Shield AoE stun is not shock though

It's probably tied to Chain_lightning

If that's the case then probably check EP shock maul later

[ripe obsidian]

I know the shock maul is. At least the non-Arby one. And I am like 90% sure the Arby one uses the same damage profile

[ripe obsidian]

And in this way I aggregate more power.

[dire wharf]

I'm ok with that

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/littlefinger-baelish-smile-hey-nod-gif-3784237936159985493

[dire wharf]

But just in this channel ok

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/lies-the-meme-fake-news-gif-25004197

[dire wharf]

But seriously, six and ainz have been invaluable in learning to play psyker

[jovial juniper]

Will probably boot up dt later and give Abysmal to EP psyker

[radiant frigate]

meanwhile i am the weird one trying to lead you astray

[dire wharf]

If only you were a blaze force greatsword enjoyer instead of a force greatsword enjoyer

I kid, you've been super helpful, a number of you have been

To the point where all my other reject characters give me dirty looks because stop playing psyker

[radiant frigate]

how the hell am i getting declined by level 40s in a havoc 23 as a level 250 zealot

the hell are these people smoking

• can i have some

[dire wharf]

Not pickle vape that's for sure

I'm still too bad for auric but I'm good enough to help newbies in uprising/malice and that's fun

[cosmic sigil]

they don't have true level mod

[radiant frigate]

this is the part where we find out that the party finder is perhaps the worst possible iteration of party finder functions ever

supposed to be for building teams yet you can exchange a grand total of zero words before being accepted

no "hey we need XYZ can you do it" no "i can do other things too" no nothing

just based on whether or not they like the cut of your jib

[dire wharf]

@radiant frigate Division 2 has the same problem with raids

Doesn't matter I probably have 3000 hours played, could still get turned down because they don't like your gear

[radiant frigate]

oh would you look at that

put on havoc-forged

instant invite

fucking lmao

aaand i get disconnected and come back and we're all dead

splendid

[long saddle]

wait is this with or without a high havoc rank already?

[radiant frigate]

mine is listed as 21

so i suppose without

[long saddle]

yeah ig you can run the havoc 35 insignia too

[ripe obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/monty-python-holy-grail-king-didnt-vote-gif-8051023

[dire wharf]

Oh Lady of the Lake.. her arm clad in the purest shimmering ceramite, held aloft a blaze force greatsword from the water signifying by divine providence!

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/the-outpost-the-outpost-series-the-outpost-tv-the-cw-fantasy-gif-18878645

[formal dew]

Help, help I'm being oppressed!

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/omni-man-why-did-you-make-me-do-this-invincible-think-mark-gif-21763040

[deft stump]

A classic.

[dire wharf]

My psyker has transformed into speedy gomzales now

https://tenor.com/view/speedy-gonzales-running-gif-17911127493511239595

Need more speed 😤

[ionic merlin]

Thought that was zealots gimmick

[jovial juniper]

Zealot is consistent

Psyker is burst

Buf

But

Play your cards right and you might burst consistently

[radiant frigate]

what if you have no cards

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/joker-very-poor-choice-words-gif-22861860

I don't mean burst due to peril

That's a bad burst

[formal dew]

Unless you have crystalline will

[dire wharf]

Roll your dice right

[pale prairie]

It’s a bad bust like in a card game

[radiant frigate]

[dire wharf]

Shredder auto needs some nice skins, they're all bunk

[jovial juniper]

Your deck is garbage

Has no one taught you how to deck build?

[radiant frigate]

unfortunately no

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/skill-issue-urge-resist-cat-gif-25536160

[radiant frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/krill-issue-skill-issue-krill-issue-gif-25572478

[dire wharf]

Can someone explain this

[marble crater]

What is this

[dire wharf]

Why a pox burster blew up in my face and it looks like I took 0 damage

[ionic merlin]

https://tenor.com/view/leuze-adeptus-mechanicus-tech-priest-chad-gigachad-gif-16989754678889066260

[marble crater]

Did you have any gold toughness at all?

[ionic merlin]

Ahh yes is… very very very dark

[dire wharf]

Lights out

[marble crater]

Guess you got very lucky with the boxes and they blocked it?

[dire wharf]

Even though it's only waist high?

[jovial juniper]

Yeah

[marble crater]

The other guy took damage, so had nothing to do with the burster

[dire wharf]

I was a little surprised, he was so close I could see what he had for breakfast

The emperor protects, I'm sure

[jovial juniper]

Beloved made it go away

[dire wharf]

Not dead yet, lucky me

[rancid geyser]

explosions get completely blocked by terrain

if you were behind one of the beams or light posts the same thing would happen

[fathom adder]

Pox Bursters will never, ever, ever behave consistently
But every once in a while the jank works in your favor

[rancid geyser]

this has been a thing forever

[pale prairie]

https://giphy.com/gifs/heyarnold-hey-arnold-nicksplat-3ohjUZoiRMz1j0sDRe

[dire wharf]

@ripe obsidian what do you say

[ripe obsidian]

About bursters and terrain?

Terrain is supposed to block explosions. Doesn't always work.

[pale prairie]

Fucking fatshark lottery

[hollow jolt]

Yeah the terrain is weird

You can have grenades clip under stuff and do nothing

[dire wharf]

Cardbox box? No damage. Concrete wall? Dead

[fathom adder]

Steel door? Also dead

[pale prairie]

Steel clad Crusher? Still dead

[white cipher]

does the cat get shoved up first or the pineapple?

[safe mist]

is penetration of the soul useful for assail? Is the rending useful or pointless?

[thorn cedar]

rending is pointless mostly

kinda shocked we dont have a copy pasta about it at this point

[ripe obsidian]

PotS is decent for Assail, but usually not worth the points it takes to path to it

PotS is only useful for Assail or Voidblast. And even then it's somewhat iffy

[rich spindle]

I was using it to hit 1 adm on rot but then remembered I was using rending

So it only worked for the first hit 😭

[thorn cedar]

• You're pretty much never getting the full 20% outside of using Scrier's Gaze + Warp Unleashed
• Almost every warp attack already has excellent damage modifiers against armor.
• Only Assail and Soulblaze doesn't, lacking against Flak and Carapace.
• Even with Rending Assail will never cleave a Carapace target so increasing rending is a dubious proposition.

Just stinky.

[ripe obsidian]

Yeah. But that first hit can potentially give you one-hit RMB kills on Bruisers instead of 2.

[ripe obsidian]

Soulblaze has like 150% ADM on flak

[thorn cedar]

oh yea forgot a word

'repectively'

[jovial juniper]

you lowkey got lucky too btw

also funny mid air turn

[dire wharf]

I'll allow that

[safe mist]

thank you for the answer

[jovial juniper]

its lowkey not a meaningful ammount

but then again i didnt fully commit to it

[safe mist]

give how I've been playing Psyker, melee focused with assail and venting shrike for horde clearing. I think I should get a voidstrike staff for the Voidstrike + Venting shrike with warp siphon build. The one exception to that is that I prefer using the Quietude and Battle Mediation.

[jovial juniper]

but you can see that the initial gunner took min 94

[safe mist]

though I guessing the more crit focused build is because the voidstrike staff wants crit?

[jovial juniper]

and the last one with ep and warp rider took min 105

althpugh that was because peril going down

so I shpulf test ep without warrp rider

oh its also not hugh voltahe arysmal

ok can conform

ep isbt affecting it

but malefic momentum is

psyker if it was good

also 2k hours in and I just noticed we move the guns barrel when we move around

[zealous wing]

give me mod pls

that looks so fucking fun for soloplay

i beg

[buoyant maple]

Rot armor doesn’t change ADM no?

It’s just raw DR

[jovial juniper]

https://github.com/regzo2/DT-Loadout-Config

I got it from there

[zealous wing]

[jovial juniper]

its a bit old but hasnt let me down yet

you just gotta enable use class exclusive weapon

[jovial juniper]

oh i also had penterarito of tje spig

not that i gpt mucja value oout of it

in gact i dont even lknow chain lightning adms

[daring rose]

Blaze force sword or what

[rich spindle]

just carapace adm

is like .8 for trauma

[ripe obsidian]

I have a list of ADMs in the pinned build guide

You can see how few things benefit from PotS

[ripe obsidian]

Trauma RMB is 80% for carapace and flak, so PotS is a meaningful damage boost, at least on the first hit

After that, rending shockwave kicks in

[hidden willow]

In havoc 30s, is it better to have venting shriek + 3x gunner resist or just use bubble + 3 * 5% toughness for gunner heavy seeds?

Bubble is obviously op, but it’s long ish cooldown now and shriek is really good for stagger against melee threats

[cloud folio]

saw that build perform well in havoc 40. thats how I found it on YouTube

want more specialist heads to pop

[ripe obsidian]

Bubble is weaker than Shriek in almost every situation

Bubble temporarily mitigates threats. Shriek removes them. To oversimplify

[manic halo]

Is that due to inferno staffs prevalence?

Oh

Okie

[ripe obsidian]

Even without Inferno, Shriek is ridiculous

[verbal thistle]

H40 solo Melee psyker

Deaths:
Mauler: 83
Trapper: 25
Dog: 16
Crusher: 63
Shooters: 17
Reaper: 17
Rodin: 2
Cspawn: 20
Burster: 9
Shotgunners: 11
Rager: 5
Mutant: 10
PotW: 6
Sniper: 11
Gunner: 10
Bulwark: 8
Poxwalkers: 3
Flamer: 7
Captain: 2
Bomber: 1
Plasma: 4
BoN: 1
Pogryn: 1

Had a close run today

got to mid event with twins dead

[ripe obsidian]

Like, in a 1700k damage H40 with LMB EK or rending trauma, Shriek will rack up 800k+ damage

[verbal thistle]

sadly got only ranged spawns

at event

also 1st plague ogryn death a few days ago

[manic halo]

Impressive!

[cloud folio]

what do you mean solo?

[verbal thistle]

H40 solo

[manic halo]

No one else

[cloud folio]

all other bots?

[verbal thistle]

lack of team

[ripe obsidian]

Ainz is built different

[manic halo]

Ah you use that ult?

[cloud folio]

how do you not have botsm

[manic halo]

How is it in havok

Mod

[verbal thistle]

its psyker

OP

pressing F does more then an entire keystone on zealot

the crit chance alone

lmao

[manic halo]

So you use it for melee damage principly I assume?

[verbal thistle]

Yeah

I rarely use pistol

like my zealot solo

good for reapers and low hp bosses

[verbal thistle]

@ripe obsidian

weird bug with plasma

idk if its solo only

[manic halo]

That is cool! I wasn’t aware it was good in auric

[verbal thistle]

but they dont play their ranged attack animation at times

[manic halo]

I only hear about shriek

But maybe it’s different since your doing solo

[verbal thistle]

shriek would be strong as well

less fun for me

[manic halo]

Bro fucking laser eyed you

[verbal thistle]

I hate infinite cleave stuff

[manic halo]

Just because it’s not as fun?

[verbal thistle]

not fun and removes alot of the challgne solo brings

(alot more enemies since you have 100% agro)

[manic halo]

[verbal thistle]

I dont have soulblaze on this build too

to make it more fun

[manic halo]

I did a shitty attempt at a solo mortis trial for fun a bit ago. It was kinda cool but a little boring

[dire wharf]

Have you tried the shredder autopistol in H40 ainz?

[verbal thistle]

yue

I use it on vet and zealot usually

somtimes scum

[ripe obsidian]

It looks like the projectile either vanishes or skews off in a random direction? I am on my phone so I can't see super well. Smol screen

[verbal thistle]

Puppy jumpscare

[split lynx]

should i keep lvling it or not everything else at 80 except the warp resis?

[verbal thistle]

I'd level it since trauma generates alot of peril

[split lynx]

bet

[verbal thistle]

so it becomes a little unwieldly at low warp res

[ripe obsidian]

Voidblast wants 60% WR

It's only the force swords and sometimes Inferno that want less

[verbal thistle]

Killing 4 bosses within 1 min at the start of baross only to die to a flamer kick

😔

[ripe obsidian]

"My dog is friendly"

[verbal thistle]

6 sec ttk on BoN

FGS is so dumb

[white cipher]

What perks should I put on the fire staff

[ripe obsidian]

Flak + Unyielding or Flak + Crit Chance. I recommend Unyielding.

[white cipher]

Wait I forgot. There’s blessing and runes right?

[zealous wing]

blessings then perks, perks are what six mentioned

blessings are warp nexus and blaze away

[white cipher]

What do these do? I’m not on the game right meow

[verbal thistle]

@spice aurora I climbed on the maulers head

[white cipher]

Since we are in a strength meta?

[safe mist]

the Mauler gave you and uppy

[dire wharf]

Is it possible for BFG beam attack to vanish?

[zealous wing]

damage is never not meta

[white cipher]

Nm it was toughness. I just watched the mister e video from 3 months ago just meow

[zealous wing]

oof

[white cipher]

In a good or bad way for oof?

[onyx lotus]

still continuing the bonk/kinetic flayer/scrier's/DD build (https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a0eace4c-d3c2-49c6-bd24-ba330c03cf63/bonkity-bonk-bonk-zap slightly modified). tried manstopper double barrel but don't feel it really times well with the cadence of flayer's CD. so swapping back to bolt pistol. now im curious to swap out the ol' bonk stick shock maul mk 3 into a devil's claw. would anyones have suggestions down that road for the sword perks and blessings?

[zealous wing]

take every build video from mister e with a massive grain of salt... more like a bucket... or a barrel

[white cipher]

Not the builds. I’m using the pinned drive one here and the other one that someone here gave me a few days ago

And maybe the curios

[white cipher]

He’s bad? Is there someone better?

[zealous wing]

the guide in the pins, really is it. theres a market for good build videos from what i understand

[white cipher]

I’m using the flame staff and the brain burst and Scrier's Gaze build.

But now I have to level up the sword and the other staffs

I’ve been enjoying the game so far. So many different ways/builds to try

The first few levels always suck. Since no perks and abilities

[zealous wing]

this is true

early psyker is rough

[verbal thistle]

my dog and I with frens

[ripe obsidian]

In what sense?

[verbal thistle]

yes it can

visually not appear

I do it all the time

if you swap fast enough off the slash after you cast

[sudden zenith]

[verbal thistle]

idk what I was expecting

I think I thought I used dodge

funny ragdoll

[wanton flax]

best mk for the recon when pairing with a blaze force greatsword? i was assuming probably XII but i havent touched this much

[zealous wing]

correct

[wanton flax]

perfect! tysm!

[safe mist]

Holy shit early Psyker is SO bad

its like your playing an entirely different class when you reach at least the 20s and can unlike some really important nodes like warp ghost.

[zealous wing]

i've found so far lvl 20 is pretty much the bare minimum for a solid staffker build

24 lets you grab a keystone

16 is POSSIBLE but you have to know exactly which to take to stretch that far

and by bare minimum i mean like, for aurics

some variance as well depending on which staff tbh, but inferno it was lvl 20 for creeping flames on shriek and everything before that, 16 is for meleeker minimum to really start feeling great

[manic halo]

Thoughts on my build

[zealous wing]

not symmetrical

youll be really tanky

[manic halo]

Hell yeah…

[zealous wing]

PC will also carry you a lot, bring devils claw for parry spam, watch rager cluster fall apart

[manic halo]

PC?

[zealous wing]

perilous combustion

[manic halo]

Ahh

[slim nimbus]

For starting players are any of the blitzes better than others

Or do they each kind of evenly have their use

[zealous wing]

assail is definitely the "carry me always"

smite will do nothing but harm you in the long run

BB has its uses later on but is less useful early on

[slim nimbus]

So they all suck, gotcha

[zealous wing]

not even

smite sucks

the other two are very strong

[slim nimbus]

Why is smite bad

Seems like it can lock down stuff if need be, aside from big boys

[zealous wing]

well, smite is strong, but the habits it teaches are atrocious

it will never help you learn anything about the game, plus it makes everything take longer to kill, especially for experienced players who rely on horde flowing through chokepoints or into their melee

i present, a bad habit

[slim nimbus]

What is the bad habit there

Dude sitting back trying to be palpatine?

[zealous wing]

smiting an unstaggerable rager

hold RMB+LMB+W means i win... wait why am i taking damage? teammates fault, not mine

smite is also insanely boring

assail is definitely my favourite, due to versatility

BB with kinetic flayer on a DoT build is also just free 3-4k damage every 12s

[slim nimbus]

Yeah I tried that out, seemed like it would be real nifty if you were aware enough to tap a special with it active

Just free delete

[zealous wing]

yeah or passively kill them if theres fire everywhere

[slim nimbus]

That clip looks like the kind of trash clear lighting people wish they had

[zealous wing]

like if smite was good and did damage?

[slim nimbus]

Yeah

[zealous wing]

yeah

[slim nimbus]

Instead of just kind of tickling while holding people in place

So I guess lighting is weak until you have a build around it, maybe

[zealous wing]

thats pretty much how it is, yeah. turn yourself into a slow walking arby shockmine

[slim nimbus]

Is there a reason there is a purple trail on asail sometimes

[zealous wing]

i have recently been enjoying watching the world burn

[zealous wing]

i think its either random or signifies a crit

assail is the only blitz of the three that can crit

[slim nimbus]

And quelling peril is just free, no downsides like vermintide venting

[zealous wing]

yeah, tap quell and youre free for another cast, pretty much

[slim nimbus]

I guess that is why assail has ammo too or else it would be too buff

[zealous wing]

EP assail for free shards on elite kill does prove that

[slim nimbus]

Just kind of a shame that assail will sometimes hit someone armored right in the head

[slim nimbus]

Instead of going up their ass or something

[zealous wing]

depends how you control it

it goes to the target you look at, and you can manoeuvre them around

[slim nimbus]

Even so, sometimes I will shoot it through someone and then target someone else like a special as a follow up, but it goes right for their head no matter where I aim on them

[zealous wing]

it does go for heads, you'd have to try aiming for something on the ground for example to change its approach angle

which is a LOT of effort, but, doable

[slim nimbus]

Does aiming really do anything else but make sure you hit someone from far away

[zealous wing]

it increases its flight time from 2s to 2.5, and iirc increases its cleave as well

so, not really

scab gunner line, perhaps

but, if you have assail, you probably have something faster at dealing with scab gunners

[slim nimbus]

I just have my psychic sword and staff at the moment

Though if I am using assail the staff seems a little redundant

Normal aoe staff

[zealous wing]

which staff

blue circle?

[slim nimbus]

Yeah charge boom

[zealous wing]

voidblast aka trauma

[slim nimbus]

Oh, yep

[zealous wing]

assail is good with it if it is a rending trauma / plain trauma, but if you go fire, bb with kinetic flayer would be the way to go there

as horde clear assist, specifically (assail on nonfire trauma)

trauma is very peril hungry, while assail is fairly not, so if theres a bunch of scraps of trash, assail is good cleanup vs several trauma charges

i am a bit tired lol, forgive the disjointed thoughts

[slim nimbus]

I barely have redeemed gear at the moment so it's fine

Just kind of looking at it from rehashed vermintide stuff

[zealous wing]

i've not played VT yet, been cautioned against doing so while still neckdeep in darktide because of how similar yet very different it is, so cannot help with comparisons

from the clips i've seen there are many weaponry similarities, which i find amusing

[slim nimbus]

Yeah there are a lot of similarities in weapons and powers BUT they seem to be shuffled

Fatshark is the king of least amount of effort so reusing a lot of internal moves and systems was expected

Venting/quelling also hurts in vermintide

[zealous wing]

the vets plasma gun does do that when cooling it, but only toughness, and such a miniscule amount. such an odd choice but now i know where it likely came from

[slim nimbus]

The mage in vermintide vented but the dwarf also had fire guns that had the same mechanics

Which was also odd

[zealous wing]

[slim nimbus]

Also no servers

So no forced coop

[slim nimbus]

I feel like I am lacking special focus with the shards

At a distance I mean

[spice aurora]

https://tenor.com/view/nba-dunk-basketball-edwards-vincent-gif-27092705

[spice aurora]

Wat da hell 🤣

I wish I could skip baross beginning church its like the hardest part of the map but then I regret runnin past it

[verbal thistle]

I killed 4 bosses within 1 min at the start church

then I died to a flamer kick

lmao

[hoary mauve]

I'd like to try telekine wall shield, but I've no idea if it should be staff/gun, or what keystones.

Builds appreciated 🙂

[dire wharf]

@ripe obsidian @verbal thistle I've only notice it happen a few times but I'll have 2 full charges, activate warp beam and swing and release it at a hordes center mass and it shoots out but then seemingly vanishes, does no damage, doesn't kill a single chaf enemy, and now my charges are gone

[ripe obsidian]

That usually happens if you get staggered mid-animation

[ripe obsidian]

Meleeker tends to work best. Have builds in the pinned guide. Any build that uses bubble can use walls.

Note that walls can be finicky and unreliable

[dire wharf]

Ooo, ok

[long saddle]

a bit unreliable ye

[dull osprey]

For those who are lore nerds are there any syker staff which are not in the game yet?

[long saddle]

I don't think there's much to get from lore

like staves are just focusing tools

[dire wharf]

@dull osprey that's a good question

[long saddle]

but there's def other psyker abilities out there

[dire wharf]

Yeah, so its more about the psyker spell than the staff

[long saddle]

the different staves is just a gameplay function to pick between them ye

[dire wharf]

And theres a list of psyker abilities

[long saddle]

I think we've gotten most of the general ones

from just looking up it seems others are faction specific

[dire wharf]

Some kind of warp frost/ice spell/staff would be fun

Or maybe a staff that gives you something that is essentially assail on steroids

[long saddle]

ice seems annoying to implement or too good

from a gameplay perspective you could have something that groups enemies up instead of blasting them away like voidblast

I don't think they're likely to add any more tho

I think EK is the only one they've touched since release really

[dire wharf]

That sounds dope

As much as I love playing this game, especially because psyker, I'm starting to feel bad for having other videogames I haven't finished yet

But then again

https://tenor.com/view/lotr-why-shouldnt-i-lotr-bilbo-bilbo-why-shouldnt-i-why-shouldnt-i-lord-of-the-rings-gif-17096479

[radiant frigate]

could be a new mark of voidstrike
with icicles that shatter on impact and do aoe instead of piercing

like vt2 fireball but frosty

[long saddle]

yeah I was thinking more of an ice debuff being too strong

[dire wharf]

It will do aoe + piercing plus any enemy hit freezes for 0.5 seconds and there's a 20% chance they automatically shatter and die, and if thar happens the shattered fragments shoot out, aoe + pierce, with infinite cleave, with the same 20% chance to shatter any enemy hit

Big shark plz hire me

[radiant frigate]

if we make it a movement slow we have just opened the doors to kiting hell

if we make it an actual freeze, we run the risk of smite 2.0

i could imagine an attack speed slow

that's already a mechanic that exists

[dire wharf]

Does character dialogue change depending on how well you play?

[marble crater]

Kind of? Kill streaks, going down, rescuing people etc. they all have dialogue based on who it refers to

[jovial juniper]

You also have dialogue for being low health for too long

Heard it quite few times on Martyrdom zealot

Fem Agi

She essentially complains about heretics making her bleed

If you have an ogryn around he tries to help

[hoary mauve]

okay! thought it was meleeker only

[kind jay]

what i want is a telekinesis staff where i can pick up crushers and use them to bludgeon things

or throw my own team off the map

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/pizzakinesis-dominos-yummy-gif-13659622

Pizzakinesis staff

[hoary mauve]

smite maybe xD

[jovial juniper]

Smite is bio lightning so it's more Biomancer that Telekinetic

Actually sounds weird to say because you don't expect someone that can change biotics to produce lightning

Funny eel goes zap

[deft stump]

Just mod yourself with animal.

Still more real that igniting arm on fire with no self damage.

[hoary mauve]

Since smite can throw mobs off ledges, (if I remember right), it sounds like it could be tweaked to pickup mobs or toss your team

[jovial juniper]

Gravity gun but electric

https://tenor.com/view/gmod-fnaf-jumpscare-meme-nissan-gif-20961731

[deft stump]

Needs to work on dog so double velocity bullet.

[royal falcon]

who needs that when barrel

Wait wait wait, being able to throw barrels and they explode on impact