psyker-class

[pale prairie]

Then I don’t understand why you talk so much about inferno and soulblaze

[buoyant maple]

A lot of it

[plucky flax]

Why am I stared at.

[buoyant maple]

Well

Not as much conquest in recent years

But historically there was a lot

[pale prairie]

So many civil wars

[ripe obsidian]

I need a moment like this for me

[pale prairie]

Lmao

Do you understand DoTs?

[thorn cedar]

dont dots have diminishing returns

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/ooh-ooo-cat-shocked-funny-gif-14366308

[dapper slate]

No ridiculous political dramas because the government over there is one sided and there really is not much of a fight that can happen to begin with

Atleast currently

[thorn cedar]

untrue even now though

[ripe obsidian]

I'm not gonna say I know the most about Psyker mechanics out of everyone here, but I would say I know more than a majority of people, and I have the resources to find answers if I don't know them

[pale prairie]

Could have just said “Yeah I guess I do”… SMH

[ripe obsidian]

Well, we were talking about ancient Chinese history, I believe. Most modern Chinese political drama involved China attempting to expand its domain across other sovereign nations

Such as Hong Kong, Taiwan, Tibet...

The entire Pacific Ocean

[fathom adder]

Revanchism is a hell of a drug

[thorn cedar]

you could call it ....

panifest destiny

[ripe obsidian]

This is a new word for me. Thank you.

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/maymay-entrata-marydale-smash-frying-pan-mad-gif-17894317

[dire wharf]

Yesterday's tomorrow is now today

If you're free

[fathom adder]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/8GTH4aK2fKo

[deft stump]

Yeah. Though gotta see if it's running. Darktike has been running randomly poorly recently.

[ripe obsidian]

Same. It's been like 120 FPS until hordes come, which is higher than usual, then sub-60 when hordes arrive, which is lower than usual. Normally I'm like 65-80 in hordes. Or, I have been. Could be all the Rot + Blight particle effects

[deft stump]

Blight is insta sub 20.

Especially as a melee class.

XD

Talking normal though, 32 FPS is pretty bad.

[ripe obsidian]

Blight is just a shitty modifier

"Take stimm supply or cleanse zealot or fuck you."

Or even just fuck you for being melee if you don't get into the stimm supply in time or the zealot isn't close

[deft stump]

It could be fun, but the way they did it just makes it a mess. Green shit everywhere is just a worse tox bomb.

And we all know tox bombs are way overtuned.

Either nerf the radius or nerf the duration.

[dire wharf]

I haven't noticed any performance loss but my 2014 error dosconnects are through the roof

[pale prairie]

Weeeeeee guess it’s more shout and stim supply

Much build diversity much wow

[deft stump]

We managed to do it without, Oggy, Arby, Vet, Psyker. Very fun(/s) when everyone is risking 1 wound like all the time.

[ripe obsidian]

It would be a lot better if there was a trigger condition that gave you immunity. Like, "The magos biologis has created an adrenaline-triggered immunization for the blight. If you have damaged an enemy with melee in the last ~3 seconds, you are immune to blight." So you are incentivized (sp?) to be aggressive into the blight

Which results in higher risk, faster paced gameplay

[deft stump]

Could be fun if it's a few triggers and they pick 2 from a list each time it rolls.

[ripe obsidian]

That would also be good, to keep it mixed up

Make it more interactive

The Havoc modifiers are very much a "thing happens to you" situation more than any sort of interactivity

It would be better if they had unique gameplay loops to encourage different playstyles

[pale prairie]

Nah nah nah I like kneecap modifiers

[deft stump]

@dire wharf Also, 69. And uhh, friend code is well, name.

[dire wharf]

K

1 sec

[deft stump]

How long? If take abit, I'll restart.

[dire wharf]

Karien is the friend code?

[pale prairie]

Numbers

After name

[dire wharf]

Derp

[crimson zealot]

Anyone know if weakspot dmg applies to inferno force staff

[deft stump]

Is like saying the fatshark code is in name.

As for 69, Voice chat. XD

[zealous wing]

it doesnt hit weakspots

[dire wharf]

I hear you guys, dunno if my mic is working

[spice aurora]

bring back rot heal silo cluster

[icy breach]

There is another way;
Have alot of CC & range in order to kill them before they pin you down

Unironically is not bad

[ripe obsidian]

A) it does not afaik
B) weakspot damage is often a trap because of how it's calculated. It's not +10% damage on a weakspot hit, it's +10% to the bonus damage done by a weakspot hit. So if weakspot adds like 20% damage, the +10% means it does 22% instead. Same with +crit damage.

[ripe obsidian]

Rot + purple is how I got 4.7m damage in 35ish minutes.

Then we lost. A captain wiped everyone but me in a single sword swipe.

My 5m damage game, lost to a single enemy.

[pale prairie]

What the fuck

[ripe obsidian]

To the damage or the loss?

I blame Agent. I was relying on him to carry me, and he got killed by NA ping.

[icy breach]

Seems like your team might have been slacking

[ripe obsidian]

Dis is the scoreboard

[icy breach]

Yup; not surprised

[spice aurora]

Noice

I only had 2x 3m games, neither on healing somehow xD

[ripe obsidian]

I have a couple 4m+ games, all on healing

No 5m games

Had a 3m game on... rot + 21 or rot + stimms this week.

Dis one

[dire wharf]

@deft stump thank you both, sorry my mic isn't working, I'm not sure why?

[deft stump]

You were muted.

[dire wharf]

I've never used voice in discord before so maybe I have to set permissions

[deft stump]

It was plug and play.

[dire wharf]

I saw that but even when I tried to unmute it wouldnt

[pale prairie]

Just surprised the Captain Merced everyone that fast

[pale prairie]

Knowing agent he died to vibing with the music too hard and not paying attention to spidey sense mod

[marble crater]

Smh

[deft stump]

Try checking settings? Make sure discord is 'reading' the right signal?

[deft stump]

Wait? Chaos can play?

Is Chaos back?

[formal harness]

@plucky flax come back to your faithful flock o great one

[deft stump]

@plucky flax

[crimson zealot]

aye thanks for the info

[crimson zealot]

ah dang, thx for letting me know

[ripe obsidian]

It was unlucky. Retreating from a rot horde, getting cornered, mistimed blocks. Series of unfortunate events.

[ripe obsidian]

This was months ago

[pale prairie]

No he’s dead

[dire wharf]

@deft stump

[pale prairie]

To Darktide

[plucky flax]

Real

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/devastating-neil-degrasse-tyson-cosmos-possible-worlds-shocking-gif-21651395

[plucky flax]

No new class no reason to play

Forza horizon 6 out soon

[pale prairie]

Gonna need a 7090 for that one

[thorn cedar]

more like boreizon

[plucky flax]

Its not that demanding

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/got-em-lmao-mind-blown-squad-gif-17265113

[ripe obsidian]

Wot about because we miss you? Is that not a reason?!

[dire wharf]

How soon?

[plucky flax]

[plucky flax]

I think 20th may

[pale prairie]

He just keeps saying soon till it’s out

[plucky flax]

Some where in may

[pale prairie]

Works everytime

[dire wharf]

I forgot about that, its in Japan right, the setting

[plucky flax]

Yeah dawg

[dire wharf]

That's my motto for Half Life 3

Any day now..

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/broooo-mikhail-varshavski-doctor-mike-bruh-oh-come-on-gif-26545905

[dire wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-pablo-lonely-alone-gif-12928789

[plucky flax]

Also ive yet to play Crimson desert

[pale prairie]

Do you like mmo? Then you’ll like it

[plucky flax]

So like when I come back to uk I probably won't touch darktide for a while anyway

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/goat-washed-my-goat-washed-lightning-mcqueen-mcqueen-gif-13084113942314445304

[marble crater]

Karien in shambles

[plucky flax]

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/dust-ashes-thanos-gone-avengers-endgame-gif-14825403

[ripe obsidian]

Confirmed, Inferno is hard-coded not to hit weakspots.

[crimson zealot]

whack

disrupt destiny aint too good on it then

[ripe obsidian]

It is not

[crimson zealot]

was following this game lantern build and it recommended disrupt destiny for inferno staff, remind me to never look at game'ss lantern again x-x

[plucky flax]

Thats op

[ripe obsidian]

I have many a build in the pinned guide in this channel

[verbal thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/those-who-know-cat-cat-meme-those-who-gif-2719346752565069035

I love gameslantern

its so funny

[ripe obsidian]

Including some of Ainz's builds.

[crimson zealot]

is it up to date tho

[fathom adder]

For better and worse it's the one place where it's easy to make and post a build, there are a few good builds by good players amid a sea of mid and copycat and slop

[ripe obsidian]

Yes.

[crimson zealot]

ive seen many a outdated build

ah noice

thx

[ripe obsidian]

No builds in there should be outdated

Afaik

[crimson zealot]

Also side question, what the hek is this

[ripe obsidian]

It's the llama

[crimson zealot]

I have no clue what that is but i gues ill figure it out x-x

[ripe obsidian]

(It's an MS paint map of Consignment Yard's mid event)

[crimson zealot]

ah thx

[fathom adder]

Yeah have one player spawn camp the door/balcony on the right side and the rest stay near the yellow X

[ripe obsidian]

Note that Psyker has had no meaningful changes in probably a year.

[crimson zealot]

whack

[ripe obsidian]

I also have a patch rundown of 1.11 in the build guide. At least where it affects Psyker

[pale prairie]

Hahaha is it up to date??? Hahahaha

[ripe obsidian]

Bubble's CD nerf is about the only "big" change, and I don't think it changed the meta. People who want defense still pick bubble, and bubble is still weaker than Shriek and SG

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/its-obsession-james-saito-tanaseda-hideki-altered-carbon-obsessed-gif-17615657

[crimson zealot]

would you recommend telekine front facing shield tho or should we always stick with the 360 bubble even in havok 40

[pale prairie]

“Your havoc 40 join request has been denied”

[pale prairie]

Double shield is good but right now bugged. It is inconsistent in blocking or stunning things

[crimson zealot]

Jusst fatshark things i ssuppose

[pale prairie]

It’s great on hunting grounds but nets, snipers, and bursters are iffy

[ripe obsidian]

The wall shield is stronger if used well, but it's inconsistent (buggy) and harder to use.

Bubble is more reliable and easier

[crimson zealot]

think ill try wall

kinda sick of getting overwhelmed when i try to burn heretics

[ripe obsidian]

If you want a shield, bubble is the safer pick. And with Warp Siphon + Psykinetic's Aura, the cooldown for bubble is still like 17 seconds minimum

[ripe obsidian]

Shriek is the answer.

[crimson zealot]

even in havok 40 tho?

[ripe obsidian]

Shriek is a strong stagger and amazing damage on an average ~11 second cooldown

[ripe obsidian]

Especially in H40.

Bubble is worse than Shriek and Scrier's Gaze

[crimson zealot]

hrmmm alright

[ripe obsidian]

Shriek is immensely strong

[crimson zealot]

only thing i worry is the shooters from afar

[ripe obsidian]

Here is a Shriek H40 from me earlier this week

[crimson zealot]

taking cover isn't alwayss an option

phat

is this with a coordinated team or randoms?

[ripe obsidian]

Solutions are, in approximate order if cover is not available, Shriek to stagger them (30m range) and possibly kill them with DoT, dodge-slide forward to avoid their shots and suppress them with your staff, or ping and rely on teammates

[ripe obsidian]

Randoms

[crimson zealot]

really phat gyatt dang

[ripe obsidian]

Shriek is very strong

[crimson zealot]

ye ill try it out in havok 40

[ripe obsidian]

And per my testing, I average like an 11 second cooldown on it, so it's going off literally hundreds of times per game

I usually average ~3.6 Shrieks per combat minute

[zealous wing]

and here i was told not to shriekspam >:(

my bad habit is no longer bad

[ripe obsidian]

Who told you that?

[zealous wing]

dom

[ripe obsidian]

Why?

[zealous wing]

probably to nom my soulblaze with blazing trauma later

[strange field]

is negative % passive quelling a good thing or a bad thing?

[zealous wing]

good thing

[strange field]

alr thanks

[ripe obsidian]

I shriekspam and, per my cooldown mod, have an average of 4.6 WS stacks. Can't say for certain the soulblaze stacks, but probably almost always the full 6

[zealous wing]

less peril management on the increase side

[crimson zealot]

Do you use the "Empyric Resolve" build from this psyker bibble https://docs.google.com/document/d/11Av6T7DJRkm78M3csiZec6p7-cHXOWiKyjpOJ-FWV3g/edit?tab=t.0

[ripe obsidian]

I wrote that thingy. But no, I haven't been using Empyric Resolve for a while

Tap quell is good enough

[ripe obsidian]

Is why I have moved to Rending + Shriek. The overlap with Blazing Trauma is blech

[crimson zealot]

Thx for the resourcee

[crimson zealot]

which build do you use then?

[ripe obsidian]

You are welcome. I am working on reformatting and moving it to Steam for better readability and access

[ripe obsidian]

I think I called it "More Peril Generation" or something

Lemme check

[zealous wing]

i still like the cozy of blazing trauma, feels too weird to me to not have soulblaze pop out of it when i have shriek, even though its probably the better of the two. haven't gotten to trying out blazing scriers trauma

[ripe obsidian]

Yeah, Faster Peril Generation. I'll give it a snappier name when I move it to Steam

[crimson zealot]

Aye thx

[zealous wing]

ik the only higher stacking would come from PC, which does suck, but it'd be fine enough for hordes i think

[zealous wing]

true inferno shriek?

[ripe obsidian]

Or just name it elmo_blue_fire.gif

[zealous wing]

lol

[ripe obsidian]

Although I rarely use Empyric Resolve anymore, I want to keep those builds in there for people less familiar with peril management

I am debating trying a version of my build where I drop Quietude or Soulstealer for Empyric Shock, but I can't justify it. Both of those talents are active so often, and ES would be maybe 5% of the game, if that.

And I usually only LMB 2-3 times in a row to make space

[zealous wing]

can confirm, without quietude HURTS

[ripe obsidian]

I did not like quietude before it got buffed

Now I am a big fan

[zealous wing]

i'm finding it saving my ass so much

especially if im trapped in gas

[ripe obsidian]

It's very convenient

[pale prairie]

If you like quietude then stop SHRIEKING IN MYEAR

[ripe obsidian]

No.

[deft stump]

Lul. Finally thing.

[dire wharf]

Heck yeah for progress

Also got some more relic skulls, only 3 to go

3 people joined the mission I was running for a skull. I let them know I was stopping to do a parkour puzzle, gimme 30 seconds. No. They couldn't wait that long. They all ran ahead, into a pack of poxhounds. All 3 were pinned and killed and quit the mission

[marble crater]

Noobs

[crimson zealot]

Question, why not Penetrating Flames instead of Warp Nexuss

Applying Britlenesss is better for the team aint it

[radiant frigate]

only relevant on crushers and assuming the team isn't already using anti-armor weapons on crushers

[crimson zealot]

aye thats true

[jovial juniper]

Not really

I mean

It depends

If your team is already running good weapons they don't need brittle

And there's also better options for applying brittleness

Like Thunderous Bloodletter chain axe

Or like
Uncanny
Which isn't brittleness but works similarly

[little forum]

Anyone have a fun gun-Psyker build for expeditions they’d be willing to share?

[wind spruce]

Well they did buff it by 60%

[wind spruce]

Assail. Scriers. DD. Movement speed talents. Gun. Done.

[tulip kettle]

Is a puppy named death not a llama -.-

It's also consignment yard mid event

[marble crater]

Ah Dom, unfortunately you are too late

[pale prairie]

We talking about the crayon drawing done by a kinder kid?

[little forum]

DD? My brain is not working rn sorry lol what’s that stand for

[little forum]

Thanks btw!

[pale prairie]

Disrupt destiny right side keystone

[wind spruce]

Does the special max out thunderous? Ive never tried that

[little forum]

Perfect. Thanks sir. What gun do the masses prefer for this?

[tulip kettle]

Also shriek spam is great and the reason I said not to spam @zealous wing is cos it's better to not just cast it off CD if you are running charges, if there's not the enemy density to justify it, simply because it's better to cast it when there's more trash density and the loss of charges can hurt your single target dmg and breakpoints against elites

[jovial juniper]

It's the bleed iirc
So you can rev attack 1 tick dodge out and apply 40% in a second

[pale prairie]

Vraks V or recon lasgun 12 I think? In the pins is a bonanza build file

[jovial juniper]

The debuff indicator is pretty good at showing it

[wind spruce]

Im assuming only the bleed from bloodletter can stack it?

[jovial juniper]

Likely, yup

[wind spruce]

If it was all dots youve applied that would be... broken??

[tulip kettle]

So like, if there's 4 ragers and not much else, your TTK will be better by keeping your 6 WC than shrieking them for 6 stacks of SB

Also, pen flames for sure has a place over nexus

That place being rotten armour H40 where you also have another source of brittle being applied by a team mate, as your pen flames can take the brittleness to 60% as it stacks with other brittle sources, and you don't need the EE procs to keep you from being swiss cheesed quite so much

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/still-dont-know-how-you-got-in-here-barack-obama-gif-16371672

[tulip kettle]

Its okay, I was just leaving -.-

[long saddle]

how about 20 shotgunners?

[pale prairie]

Hmmmm penetrating flames against rot interesting

[long saddle]

actually it was 25, I only got 20 of them myself

[pale prairie]

I don’t think with how reliably in fire reborn is proccing from soulblaze and while using inferno staff that NOT shrieking for warp charges staying high is really a thing look at kalakois clip they shriek and within like 1-2 seconds have 6 charges again

[tulip kettle]

They have that because there is the density

[long saddle]

I just shriek as soon as I get it p much

[tulip kettle]

And I thought we were talking about trauma

[pale prairie]

Oh well trauma yeah makes sense to be a bit more discerning

[tulip kettle]

With inferno sure just shriek spam

[pale prairie]

You also have trauma CC so don’t need shriek CC all the time

[long saddle]

I didn't even know what I posted was like relevant to the convo, I just wanted to post a funny clip I just took lol

the next game we had rot+blight

this was 21st and stims

[pale prairie]

Nice

Like night and day

Rot and stims blewgh

[long saddle]

I got roughly the same amount of kills and damage

ogryn went hard in second game with their cleaver

mk6 with unstoppable force and slaughterer

[pale prairie]

But wait Mr E said it’s the worst Ogryn melee weapon

/s

[long saddle]

think he got 1k kills

but ye his lists are so dumb

[pale prairie]

Actually pretty cool he did well into rot armor with it

[long saddle]

first game

second

[ripe obsidian]

In H40 there's almost always justification to use it ASAP. I mean, I don't just use it because it's there, but I use it 3.6ish times per minute because there are so many good ways to use it

[ripe obsidian]

Do not fall to the dark side.

[ripe obsidian]

Especially cause it got buffed/fixed last patch

[ripe obsidian]

400k less basic enemy damage. M21st are chonky lads

[pale prairie]

Fatass bastards

[long saddle]

ye, but they're a p nice modifier

[pale prairie]

Yes I don’t hate them with a fiery passion unless they got that blight std

[ripe obsidian]

They're better than most modifiers

[pale prairie]

You just like how much your fire number go up

[ripe obsidian]

It is true. I like fire.

I do not like M21 enemies surviving my Shriek and coming to kick me, tho

[winged creek]

six, what mods would you recommend for havoc?

[ripe obsidian]

Oh gosh, I have like 50-60 mods enabled currently. Specifically for Havoc, I would recommend Debuff Indicator or whatever it's called to see Soulblaze stacks, Ration Pack so you can see ammo crate charges remaining, Peril Gauge for more accurate peril control, NumericUI for everything, Danger Zone or Spidey Sense for silent bursters (I use Danger Zone)

Most of the mods I have are QoL stuff rather than gameplay modifying

Oh, guaranteed weapon swap is also important

[long saddle]

I like markers aio

lets you see and tag useful stuff from farther away

[ripe obsidian]

Markers AIO is good, yeah

[long saddle]

it also does what ration pack does

[ripe obsidian]

For some reason it gives me really weird FPS drops

Like, my baseline FPS drops 10-20 with Markers AIO enabled

I still use it, tho

[long saddle]

idt I've ever A/B tested stuff for frames

[ripe obsidian]

I have because the game runs like crap

[winged creek]

was able to dip my toes into havoc last night for 1st time on psyker very nice group helped me out but quickly noticed all the things i couldn't see (like soulblaze stacks) was holding me back a bit, think that might be a good thing for your build bonanza guide or would that be a slippery slope? thanks for the list though, gonna need to look into those

[long saddle]

I usually don't drop enough for me to notice

[ripe obsidian]

I can add recommended mods as I port the guide to Steam, yeah.

[long saddle]

I should prob get debuff indicator

tho I have gotten by fine with vibes

[ripe obsidian]

My PC was top of the line when I built it. I9-10850k, 3080, 32 gigs of 3600 MHz DDR4, etc

[long saddle]

I have similar specs to you I think

[ripe obsidian]

But now it's several generations out of date, and the lack of optimization in Darktide strains it

[long saddle]

maybe worse processor, idr mine off the top of my head

[winged creek]

darktide always been resource intensive, dunno though

[ripe obsidian]

When I benchmark with Time Spy, my build is like 10% faster than average for the same specs. So it's not my PC running poorly as far as I can tell

[long saddle]

ok ye it's a worse one: Intel Core i7 9700K

I've only swapped ram and gpu, rest is from 2019

[zealous wing]

spidey sense does not work for silent bursters

if silent burster, no spidey sense cue either

[pale prairie]

“My frames drop by half in dense hordes for some reason”

[pale prairie]

Oh I did not know this

[zealous wing]

it shows sound cues, and where they played from, not where the entity is currently

[pale prairie]

I am surprised, caught unawares, I am silent bursted

[zealous wing]

mhm

therefore, spidey sense, not a cheat. everyone gets a silent burster, as is fair

[pale prairie]

It’s not a cheat because people who only listen to Spotify playlists play this game and need it as an accommodation

[zealous wing]

so glad you get me

but also i play with two people who are deaf in one ear, i know one uses spidey and idk if the other uses it

she probably does

it's definitely helped a lot

[pale prairie]

If the other doesn’t they fucking need it lmao

This game takes audio cues seriously when they actually play

[jovial juniper]

Silent Burster every now and then to remind the player to not get accommodated

[pale prairie]

Literally got bursted all over yesterday cause I darted around a corner to kill the trapper audio cue that was apparently behind a silent burster

https://tenor.com/view/pacha-perfection-perfect-emperor's-new-groove-peak-gif-3134211215846993256

[zealous wing]

she does not use it

too overwhelming when she sees my clips, scared her off it :(

[pale prairie]

Bad hexis

[radiant frigate]

perhaps i should give spidey sense to my bf because he has trouble with directional audio

one time i was spectating him after i got barreled

[pale prairie]

Give the gift of not getting netted this year

[radiant frigate]

"burster and trapper on your right"

"HOW THE FUCK DO YOU KNOW THAT"

[pale prairie]

To be fair

You can ghost rotate view

[zealous wing]

i need custom huds resize function to be fixed

[radiant frigate]

you can?

[fathom adder]

When will they finally add pox burster resist to curios

[pale prairie]

On corpses

[radiant frigate]

yeah but in an unfortunate turn of events it was me that was dead

via barrel into the abyss

[zealous wing]

because then spidey sense could be shrunk and moved to a corner kinda like a minimap, rather than a wide area around the crosshair))

[fathom adder]

I failed a clutch this morning because a trapper I could have sworn was below me on some stairs was actually above (and therefore behind) me

[pale prairie]

little did she know it was the boyfriend who accidentally barreled

[zealous wing]

"accidentally"

[pale prairie]

I am not making accusations

[zealous wing]

neither am i

[radiant frigate]

not possible, he was in front of me that time

[zealous wing]

it was an "accident"

[radiant frigate]

so for all i know it could have been barreled by bot

[pale prairie]

The perfect crime

The instant 360 no scope mod

Lmao “that time”

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/predator-arnold-schwarzenegger-hand-shake-arms-gif-3468629

What does danger zone do?

[zealous wing]

ring around busters, barrels, DHs

[pale prairie]

And is guaranteed weapon swap mod tha good?

[zealous wing]

you can see the danger zone in here

[zealous wing]

guarenteed button is swapped when q is pushed. yes, is good

[pale prairie]

Yeah I know the magic circles just don’t know the name

[fathom adder]

Yes
Weapon switch has been fucked since VT1

[pale prairie]

What if I have ooooother buttons for swap

[zealous wing]

shut up

[pale prairie]

I mean I don’t feel like I’ve died from it

[fathom adder]

Also get the Guaranteed Ability Activation and Guaranteed Weapon Special mods

[zealous wing]

guarenteed ability has failed me still

[pale prairie]

Now the ability activation does feel necessary

This is insane why are there so many guaranteed mods

Come on fatshark

[spice aurora]

I never had ability or swap or anything not work except parry if its during an animation ngl xD

Does the mod override and make parries work as soon as you click?

[zealous wing]

play with it for like, 15 games, then remove it

[zealous wing]

that would be weapon special

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-power-up-gif-14540470702150411527

[pale prairie]

Oh sounds like you need the guaranteed skill mod

Makes a big difference

[spice aurora]

Is it intended that parry wont activate during some animations cuz I don’t wanna fk with whats intended or not

[zealous wing]

then dont use guarenteed weapon swap or ability activation

because fatshark

[pale prairie]

I have greatly enjoyed discovering that when dogged or mutied at 100% peril I instant explode

[zealous wing]

they think you cant use h2 on ironhelm while sprinting, therefore refuse to fix the cancel of h2 while holding sprint button

[zealous wing]

the best part is SOMETIMES you have time to shriek after,depending

[winged creek]

learning the fun way parry generates peril (at least on dueling sword it has)

[spice aurora]

Fk it I’m going to cheat. Alrdy cheating with danger zone for just bursters

Which doesn’t even help tbh except killing them behind spawn doors xD

[long saddle]

I wonder how many times I've watched this clip when posted

because I still watch it every time lol

[open oriole]

what psyker staff does the most damage against captian shields?

EK, right?

[rapid goblet]

I think it's fire staff

or even smite

[zealous wing]

it'd be melee

but for staff specifically, @ripe obsidian do you happen to have the numbers handy?

i'll go run a test in the meanwhile

unironically might be voidstrike

specifically with surge procs

next is EK, then inferno, then trauma

inferno overall though is better fit, since you'll be hitting the captain with it while clearing the trash around your teammates and the captain, but, thats just how it seems unless/until we get data from six

[open oriole]

ok, cool, thank you!

assail does jack shit though right?

[open oriole]

primary?

[zealous wing]

secondary

primary is never a staffs DPS

[open oriole]

I know, i just thought surge only procced on primary

[zealous wing]

and no assail isnt boss DPS

for voidstrike it procs on both

[open oriole]

oooooohhhh

dodnt catch that

thank you

[zealous wing]

sadly though voidstrike sucks pretty sad in havoc

so bring a melee and use it like a gun replacement

instead of as hordeclear

like FGS

[open oriole]

yeah, this is for a friends first psyker, i run fgs on psyker

[zealous wing]

first psyker, what did they run before

[indigo thunder]

Since when do you go kaboom while charing Trauma/Voidblast at 100% peril?

[zealous wing]

you always explode after casting at 100%

[indigo thunder]

Casting

[zealous wing]

well, unless scriers warp unbound

[indigo thunder]

I said charging

[zealous wing]

since never, then

only when you cast it

[indigo thunder]

I've blown up twice while charging, but not releasing

😭

[zealous wing]

if you can, imma need you to clip that for me, might be worth a bug report, and easier to know if theres something else triggering that, because:

you should not be exploding merely by charging

i have also never exploded while charging

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-sunglasses-cool-gif-12601474576470924157

[thorn cedar]

sometimes youre just charging on the edge for so long that you cant edge it anymore and you blow early

it is nothing to be ashamed about

[brazen compass]

[open oriole]

nothing 😁

[open oriole]

can that happen when you get stunned while charging?

[zealous wing]

no, only if casting

[zealous wing]

definitely ease them in then, voidstrike and trauma are very peril hungry, EK slightly less so but still hungy

[open oriole]

yeah wroking on it

my psykers paly has always been very aggressive

and melee focues

so casting istn my strong suit

[worthy wasp]

My tier list of the classes running meta builds-

SSS- Psyker
SS- No one in this tier. No class touches Psykers combination of raw dmg output and utility
S - Scum, Vet
A - Arbites, Ogryn
B - Zealot
C - No one is bad

[zealous wing]

if by meta you mean inferno shriek, absolutely. if you mean inferno bubble, thats more like a a/b tier

[zealous wing]

valid

bigly bonk is nice

[open oriole]

ive been meaning to try an inferno shriek build

got one handy?

[zealous wing]

indeed

[open oriole]

thank you thank you

[zealous wing]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a16808c6-e32a-417d-9c9a-71ca0f1e651e/infernoshriek-h40

theres also a huge compendium in the pins, this is just one of the ones i threw in GL for sharing purposes

[worthy wasp]

Hell, even inferno+bubble would be SS imo

[zealous wing]

meh

inferno without shriek struggles a lot more than shriek without inferno

[worthy wasp]

Infinite cleave, amazing CC, amazing utility

[zealous wing]

if someone wants bubble, i'd run bubbleknight, not inferno

if they want inferno, i run inferno shriek

if they want both, they need two psykers

[worthy wasp]

Ye

Then theres the true madmen

Scriers

[zealous wing]

inferno scriers is definitely a choice that was made

i've been meaning to make an inferno scriers build with assail to make six cry

[ripe obsidian]

ADMs for staff attacks should be in the guide. Void Shield. I would guess Inferno or EK, but both are pretty crap at shields.

[zealous wing]

my rending surge fidget build already makes him cry

but the build works

[worthy wasp]

I put Scriers builds in S tier with Scum and Vet

Shriek in SSS, bubble in SS, and Scriers in S

[ripe obsidian]

I think captain shields have an inbuilt ranged and DoT damage reduction

[thorn cedar]

yes

[ripe obsidian]

Yeah, void shield has 0.5 damage multiplier on ranged, 3x damage multiplier on melee

[worthy wasp]

I think youre right, I tested it yesterday. Mag dumped a Boltgun into a captain's shield yesterday and didnt even even remove a quarter

[thorn cedar]

• max damage cap per hit

which is why chainaxes etc. rip them so good

[ripe obsidian]

Using anything besides melee on a captain is generally a waste of time

[zealous wing]

3 hivescum with coated weaponry shivs unironically so funny against captains

[ripe obsidian]

I just got someone True Survivor the other night with a Scrier's Gaze build. Imo SG is significantly better than bubble or walls if the player is competent.

[worthy wasp]

I put it with Scum because its a raw dmg build that lacks utility outside of that

Shriek and Bubble = utility

[zealous wing]

then why is zealot so low

bonk

[ripe obsidian]

I generally agree that Zealot is the weakest class

[worthy wasp]

Because zealot doesnt touch Psyker/Scum/Vet in terms of dmg outside of bossing

Vet and Psyker have dmg AND utility

[zealous wing]

scum too

[worthy wasp]

Ye

[zealous wing]

arby as well i'd argue

dog, nuncio for res speed, dogsplosion for crowd control, or BTL for dealing with rot

[ripe obsidian]

Bubble utility is overstated imo. It dies so quickly under sustained fire, it's easy to be forced out of it by melee elites, and you're giving up a lot of killing potential by taking it

[worthy wasp]

Zealot just kind of exists and has "haha I 1hko the big guy" moments

[dire wharf]

I believe in you

[zealous wing]

six doesnt

[worthy wasp]

Yeah, shriek is better

[zealous wing]

i make sure of it

[ripe obsidian]

Sounds like masochism

[ripe obsidian]

My biggest single-poke damage that I know of is about 20k. I think it was a 30-stack SG poke on a Skullcrusher'd boss or something

[zealous wing]

[worthy wasp]

The thing is bosses arent even the threat. Its mixed hordes that are the issue.

And zealots dont have the tools other classes have to deal with mixed hordes

[zealous wing]

rending sidearm perhaps

might be worth

[ripe obsidian]

Best Zealot weapon is the relic sword that pokes. It's quite versatile

[verbal thistle]

I saw a poke once

[dire wharf]

This is such a fun weapon to use

[zealous wing]

has the same issue as vet powersword tho, which is its not good when off

[worthy wasp]

Thats the thing, Zealot is a "fair" class and its strengths are tied to weapon balance cuz they dont get much outside of that from their kit

[verbal thistle]

I remember spending like a day getting mk2 moveset down

[ripe obsidian]

I'll poke you

[verbal thistle]

True

[spice aurora]

is mk 2 the one with the uppies and downies

[verbal thistle]

Unlike Psword I doesn't take 3 hits to kill a poxwalker, and blessings can make it a decent mixed/trash clear to conserve power for cara/unyield

[zealous wing]

ah it felt that bad

[ripe obsidian]

I don't honestly know enough about Zealot to comment extensively. I know Psyker very well, Arby and Scum decently well, and the rest I rely on other people

[pale prairie]

Wasn’t it your first class?

[zealous wing]

first doesnt mean most explored tbf

[ripe obsidian]

Yeah, but it has gone through a rework and balance changes

[pale prairie]

Yeah but Six is obsessively thorough

[ripe obsidian]

And like 90% of what I played was FotF Evis or book + DS

[zealous wing]

my first class was vet, and all i know is power sword is overhyped and so is plasma gun

[worthy wasp]

My first class was Psyker and I mained it from release until Arbites came out.

Arbites is 🤌 Was literally designed for me

[pale prairie]

You have trouble dodging and sliding?

/s

[dire wharf]

Vet -> zealot -> psyker (for me)

[ripe obsidian]

My first H40 clear was probably with book Zealot, as was my first True Survivor. But I never explored the class nearly as much as I have Psyker.

[worthy wasp]

In VT2 I was a fk kruber player

[ripe obsidian]

I was mostly Warrior Priest or WHC in VT2, then merc Kruber after that

[worthy wasp]

Arbites is like FK Kruber with a dog

[ripe obsidian]

Arby is so fun to play

Is my 2nd best class

Probably

Scum after that

Those are the 3 I can reliably clear H40 with, and with at least 2 builds each! Well, a lot of builds for Psyker. 2 for Arby and Scum

[zealous wing]

is that "bonk" and "fuck you from range"

[ripe obsidian]

For Arby it's bonk and shotgun

For scum it's melee shivs and toxin

A few flavors of melee shivs, but they all play mostly the same

Just rampage + adrenaline vs stimm supply + chem dep

[zealous wing]

i'll never know why fatshark changed the idea for chep dep from "stimm cooldown" to "ability cooldown"

it makes so little sense to have 2 fast cooldown options for stim supply

[ripe obsidian]

Just lowering stimm CD would probably not be very good

[spice aurora]

i cant use shivs cuz it feels weird having long range with tiny sticks, like it make no sense

How my overheads hit something

So far away xD

[zealous wing]

aura

duh

[ripe obsidian]

Gutter magic

[radiant frigate]

this is gutter fighting

[radiant frigate]

three guesses as to what i played

[spice aurora]

So guaranteed special really lets you activate parry through any animation?? That’s giant cause I have to full stop attacking and then parry to make the shit work, which makes fighting a pack of rot way more cringe

[dire wharf]

Handmaiden

[ripe obsidian]

Slayer, Zealot, Footknight.

[radiant frigate]

ding ding ding

[radiant frigate]

extremely loud incorrect buzzer

[ripe obsidian]

Really? Handmaiden? I can't picture it

[radiant frigate]

(i also played a lot of waystalker)

kruber was my 2nd

usually merc

very occasionally fk

[ripe obsidian]

Dang. I was trying to pick the three I thought were least likely

[thorn cedar]

also handmaiden and warrior priest for me

[dire wharf]

I only knew that because I've seen it mentioned before and my autistic brain remembers the randomest shit

[thorn cedar]

i liked unchained a LOT but idk that id ever say i got great at her

[radiant frigate]

i think for me overall it was elf > kruber > sienna > salty > bardin

[thorn cedar]

bardin deffo the lowest

cause hes a dwarf

[dire wharf]

Are the vt2 servers still active?

[pale prairie]

Whoa Bardin is a chad

[ripe obsidian]

Never were servers

Is peer to peer

[radiant frigate]

probably (i am not welcome there any longer)

[dire wharf]

Ahh

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/viking-man-leaps-ice-water-gif-12813214525354223849

[radiant frigate]

i thought it was about discord servers

given that, well, we are on discord

[pale prairie]

Banned

[radiant frigate]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/920016996752564286/1274487631987605674/GVHX15RXoAApby3-ezgif.com-video-to-gif-converter.gif

it is what it is

[ripe obsidian]

You are what you is

[radiant frigate]

they don't think it be like it is but it do

[pale prairie]

Que sera sera

[radiant frigate]

c'est la vie

[dire wharf]

Currently sitting on a 7 day reddit ban, after my 3 day ban was just lifted

[pale prairie]

Wer rastet, der rostet

[marble crater]

Curious

[pale prairie]

Hah

[dire wharf]

Sehr gut

[pale prairie]

That will teach you to use data in arguments

[radiant frigate]

nur die harten kommen in den garten

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/talladega-nights-ricky-bobby-diamond-in-an-ice-storm-hard-on-aroused-gif-8932992622720158291

[spice aurora]

I got permad after a temp ban, I made a post asking if I myself was rtrded for not understanding a mechanic and then I got temp banned, and then perma’d during the temp ban xD

me when she says she wants a bad boy:

[dire wharf]

I saw that I could appeal the bam but then it says it can take up to 6 months

[dire wharf]

My gf too, lmao

[brazen compass]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=15NfezuqHRs&pp=ygUWS2F0YW5hcmkgcXVlIHNlcmEgc2VyYQ%3D%3D

[kind jay]

...someone got netted on the bridge at the end of hab and as i was helping them up a jumping dog pushed me off the fucking bridge rofl

dog of the year

[pale prairie]

damn

give that dog a medal

[spice aurora]

i don’t get a lot of clips of sending dogs off into space anymore :<

[pale prairie]

https://giphy.com/gifs/AirBud-baseball-mlb-airbud-hsNzZkANeUw1dar5K0

[indigo plank]

Same energy

Papa Nurgle’s good boys are very effective

[kind jay]

yes especially when your team (who are RIGHT THERE and under no pressure), are out in lala land

[indigo plank]

It’s difficult to ping the dog on top of you as well

[deft stump]

Same for muties.

[indigo plank]

But desperately hoping one of your three teammates remembers they have a gun is painful

Watching some fat out of stamina veteran waddling over to whack the dog off you with a shovel

IT WOULD TAKE THEM LESS TIME TO RELOAD AND SHOOT IT

[kind jay]

it happens a little too much im not sure if its funny or maddening

[dire wharf]

@deft stump how was your ping on NA west server?

[deft stump]

I can deal with it.

Probably not on psyker though, but meme builds don't help lul.

[dire wharf]

For a good couple of minutes I forgot it was set to Heresy, and I've been running the lower difficulty the last few days so I could speedrun some penances

[charred pawn]

Void blast is big aoe strike is the big bullet right

[zealous wing]

yes

voidblast is the one we also call trauma

[charred pawn]

Thank you kindly

Trying yet another staff

Gotta gem em all to 20

Since im here, for a EK build do we recommend SG or VS

[jovial juniper]

Depends on your build

If you want to CRITmax you go sg

Whatever else you shriek

[charred pawn]

appreciate it

[ripe obsidian]

When did you evolve from Egoist?

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/marvel-the-avengers-tony-stark-maria-hill-robert-downey-jr-gif-15685597

Like

3 days ago

Simply put I liked this iteration of Narcissus

[ripe obsidian]

I just noticed

[pale prairie]

No he devolved

[jovial juniper]

Nuh uh

[dire wharf]

I thought trauma was the old name for inferno

[pale prairie]

Old inferno was Purgatus

[dire wharf]

Voidstrike blastbolt activate!

[kind jay]

wheres the door rofl? nurgle fallen on hard times he stealing elevator doors now

[jovial juniper]

Where's the door seller when you need one

[ripe obsidian]

Cultists stealing elevator doors to strip down for copper, I guess. Or to melt into bullets because somehow a frail little man screaming about his Beloved can survive a million shots without a scratch

[dire wharf]

The door is available in the commadores shop

[kind jay]

(probably)

[ripe obsidian]

I will frame this.

[tepid python]

lore accurate veteran

[ripe obsidian]

Lore accurate Psyker with Empathic Evasion

[tepid python]

like the rabies guy trying to drink water

[verbal thistle]

@spice aurora

[spice aurora]

what even

[verbal thistle]

idk man

this server lag

makes me wanna go back to solos

[spice aurora]

io was gon eat but now im lazy iordered food, gaem time >:)

[crisp ether]

The warp got you.

[verbal thistle]

@spice aurora

no, the last second speed up

[spice aurora]

@verbal thistle

i have the slowest reflexes

ahem

no audio, lag

[verbal thistle]

wasnt going for you

so you did have less audio

and it played at a different time

[spice aurora]

o yea wtf this game sux

[verbal thistle]

real

[rich spindle]

https://tenor.com/view/walter-white-falling-fast-gif-18043850

my genuine reaction after a scab rager solos me

[spice aurora]

i shouldve circled around idk y i try for 3rd res

i got rank 10 playstation player in here on comms

[rich spindle]

we needed chungus

[spice aurora]

and when the world needed him most, he vanished

https://tenor.com/view/avatar-vanish-the-last-airbender-needed-the-most-gif-14966971

[rich spindle]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-endgame-avengers-gone-ashes-gif-14019029

[hollow jolt]

the weirdest thing is it's never the scab ragers

only the dreg one is actually spooky

[buoyant maple]

I think scab rager is higher threat in groups ngl

Dreg rager is more predictable

[hollow jolt]

oh I can see that. Its carapace chest armor and being a scab (more scabs nearby likely) would make it a more dangerous target. Especially if it does the Darktide special where its silent until its swinging at you :p

I still take chip damage from trying to melee duel dreg ragers so I have some bias against them lol

[buoyant maple]

The weapons that are good vs ragers can mog them

The weapons that aren’t good vs ragers get mogged by them

There’s no in between

[crisp ether]

Agreed

[hollow jolt]

indeed, I was looking at it from the perspective that I'm probably packing something like a Rashad or Relic blade

[crisp ether]

Can't really cleave them as effectively

Since the swing has to be head level for all of them

[hollow jolt]

if I was using something like a heavy sword, I'd definuitely be very sad

my privileged ass always packing the best weapons has lost sight of the other weapons

[spice aurora]

Youll never guess which of these 4 players complained that the team sucks for not sticking together well enough

[rich elk]

It was me

I did it

https://tenor.com/view/mr-krabs-spongebob-deed-is-gif-19583264

It’s always their fault and never ur own

[ripe obsidian]

Was it me

[indigo plank]

I give them a gentle “u gotta keep up, homie” if they’re genuinely lagging behind the entire fireteam

After that I just let the specialists deal with it 🚬

Some people I’m convinced troll by just deliberately standing outside elevators

Just long enough to warrant opening the social menu, but not quite long enough to go thru with a kick most of the time

[dire wharf]

Yes!

[indigo plank]

It’s childish but it’s just like… whatever, weirdo

I just take that time for a water break

Good sipp keeps the brain ready for silent specials

[rich elk]

Idk how Ogryn players do it

Big d solo carry

Bopping shit like it’s nothing and retaining hp like a mad lad

🫡

[indigo plank]

I don’t know how so many level 1000+ Ogryn players have played that much vidya game and still die before the mid event in regular auric

[rich elk]

Some people are crazy good

[indigo plank]

I’m convinced the class has a reverse skill curve

You are the best Ogryn you will ever be the moment you leave the prologue and it’s only downhill from there

[rich elk]

The psykers that tank shit and take no dmg are nutty too

Like bro is tanking and not taking dmg

Fking cracked

[indigo plank]

Wait it makes sense. The more you play, the more you start to learn.

Ogryn don’t know shit, famously. The further you stray from ignorance, the worse your slab gameplay becomes accordingly

[dire wharf]

W to big shark for lore accurate ogryn

[crystal aspen]

Ooo yeaaa

[deft stump]

That is us rushing expeditions as well if duo.

[dire wharf]

I got the impression you two were using actual tactics. I'm so used to playing with pugs where everyone sprints to the finish

[deft stump]

More, we just do whatever. You just know each other's playstyles if you played together for like half a year plus.

[radiant frigate]

you're telling me it isn't just advanced tic-tacs and stra-tee-jee

[deft stump]

You know I only panic.

[radiant frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/screaming-cat-gif-8242843334147600979

[slow raven]

hmm i wonder what people think of this blessing on deimos.. oh ok then

[radiant frigate]

it's good

uncanny superiority makes for an excellent sidearm

[slow raven]

what does "strength" do again?

also if i get the buffs on deimos will it buff my trauma staff?

[cosmic cobalt]

strength is damage, stagger and cleave all in one

[radiant frigate]

perks/blessings are generally active while the weapon is out
so it will not buff your trauma staff
but if you are playing blaze trauma, it will affect your soulblaze while your deimos is out

[dusk timber]

and is also multiplicative with the normal increases of those stats

[dire wharf]

Goals!

[dire wharf]

My psyker described to a T! 😂

[deft stump]

Is for any class. Just panic.

[pale prairie]

Why would you use it over unstable power or even slaughterer? Unstable power it can be up immediately on switching and slaughterer can be farmed up from killing chaff.

[dusk timber]

Slaughterer is only melee strength right?

[radiant frigate]

medium big number

and i think superiority can stack from non-melee kills (do not quote me on that)

[pale prairie]

Strength

[dusk timber]

I see

Still i dont think youre really using force sword to kill chaf

[pale prairie]

Doesn’t say but it DOES say Per Swing

[pale prairie]

The point of it is time to stack the strength buff

[radiant frigate]

i mean if the use case is crusher pack then superiority will be better

[dusk timber]

I feel like it can probably stack from non melee kills in this case

At least as long as you have the force sword out

[radiant frigate]

plus it would suck to have soulblaze yoink your own power buff

[dire wharf]

I don't use my BFG to kill chaf. I use my BFG to kill everything

[dusk timber]

Thats greatsword

We're talking regular force sword

[dire wharf]

ah, gotcha

[marble crater]

All force swords are great swords

[dusk timber]

Illisi

[marble crater]

I like Illisi

[radiant frigate]

eel easy

i liked illisi more before warp-splitting became a thing

[dusk timber]

Theyre actually quite difficult

[radiant frigate]

and before melee psyker got toughness replenishment beyond interactions with peril and warp kills

[dire wharf]

I do like the smaller force swords but I'm not a fan of the special attack, I wish it was much faster

[pale prairie]

Why?

[radiant frigate]

kill one crusher = 12.5%

12.5% > 8%

[pale prairie]

12.5 < 20 unstable

[dusk timber]

Also lasts for 7 seconds dropping one stack at a time

Instead of 4.5 seconds dropping all at once

[pale prairie]

Again you can stack slaughter from killing anything

[radiant frigate]

yes but you're not bringing out the deimos for anything when paired with flamer/trauma

you bring it out for crusher pack

[pale prairie]

Oh crusher coming best switch abs light attack a couple dregs

[dusk timber]

Also im still pretty sure this will proc with non melee kills as well

[pale prairie]

Like sure it was melee only power?

[dusk timber]

Its not specifying its only melee kills

[pale prairie]

It isn’t saying all kills either

[dusk timber]

And i think i remember someone mentioning tox kills on crowbar give stacks as well

[dusk timber]

Yeah its saying just elite and specialist kills

[icy breach]

Uncanny is all you need; also why would you ever go for melee when you have a trauma staff da fuk

[pale prairie]

So you have to perfectly time switching to your Deimos right around when DoTs kill a specialist or elite specifically VS pulling out Deimos and just stabbing the closest things to you (stabs can pierce multiple chaff enemies)

[rigid sky]

I like uncanny/unstable I think

[dusk timber]

Not really

[rigid sky]

Casters like to peril edge

[pale prairie]

Casters should peril edge

[radiant frigate]

can they pierce chaff? i thought they have so little cleave that they are pretty much exclusively single target

[dusk timber]

Just stack soulblaze on the pack of crushers and abuse uncanny

[rigid sky]

and I find that usually I don't have to pull out my Obscurus for too long anyway

[pale prairie]

The heavy stab

[rigid sky]

bop the big bastards, then get back to the soulblaze spam with either inferno or voidblast

(Deimos and Obscurus are functionally so similar, that you can just copy the blessing/perks profile)

[pale prairie]

How does one stack uncanny?

[rigid sky]

push attack is one way

[dusk timber]

Uh

[rigid sky]

or do a special stab on th ehead

[dusk timber]

Push attack

[rigid sky]

*the head

[dusk timber]

Like thats it

[rigid sky]

or just attack the head a few times

Soulblaze uncanny abuse is easier with Shriek but can be done without I guess too

[pale prairie]

I was pointing out that you can stack uncanny WHILE stacking slaughterer on weak enemies

[dusk timber]

Yeah but thats a bit more complicated to do with a crusher pack on top of you

[pale prairie]

You have force push

As you so smartly pointed out

[dusk timber]

Yeah thats what you use to stack uncanny already

[pale prairie]

And I thought we were talking about having trauma staff?

[dusk timber]

Both trauma and flame

[cosmic cobalt]

superiority just need your dick out

[pale prairie]

Again you can use it to stack uncanny sure but you can also left click a few chaff heads stacking both uncanny and slaughter at the same time. Consistently and not just praying Dots happen to kill a specialist or elite

Regardless I think unstable power is better/more consistent

[cosmic cobalt]

also the difference is small as fuck compare to slaughterer

[pale prairie]

What about fem rejects

[cosmic cobalt]

uh

skill issue

[pale prairie]

Ooof

[cosmic cobalt]

imagine being born without a dick

[pale prairie]

That’s why I am asking the expert

[dusk timber]

Imagine being born

[dire wharf]

I never asked to be put in this meat bag 😤

[icy breach]

COPE

[dire wharf]

I'm trying my best!

Thank God for videogames and grass

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/hispullinhhiskokout-asu-memek-bangsat-gif-24915856

[worthy trellis]

I'm playing around with a bubble knight build for expeditions. Any thoughts on the Right Keystone vs the Left?

I'm wondering if Disrupt Destiny would get enough stacks in expeditions since combat is more spread out with gaps between. Left keystone would get me shorter bubble CDs, potentially popping 1 extra bubble per encounter.

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a16db1d2-3a94-4bd1-90ad-ab73fe71950e/melee-psyker-bubble-2

[thorn cedar]

I've dropped DD for expeditions. It's very inconsistent.

Since you aren't always moving in a linear direction and enemies come from all sides it's actually rather difficult to focus the bluebois for points.

And sometimes you're on objective duty and are just standing around.

[deft stump]

It just highlighted that bomber half the map away, yay.

[thorn cedar]

Not to mention the Deadside Sanctuaries is basically an instant loss of all your stacks.

It doesn't highlight bombers NOOB smh

[deft stump]

I don't use it.

[thorn cedar]

Yea I could tell 😎

[deft stump]

But you get half the map away targets.

[thorn cedar]

Yeah it's kinda stinky.

[deft stump]

Also likely tags patrols.

[thorn cedar]

It'll pick out a shooter 30m away but you have to turn around to fight a small horde of bruisers to get onto a servoskull.

[deft stump]

And you don't want to provoke all of them.

[thorn cedar]

You can do 15 stacks I suppose but all the aggravations remain.

Anyway I swapped to EP.

[pale prairie]

Yeah the marking priority is better but still feels off sometimes. Oh well

[pale prairie]

Yeah cause you are a smyker

[deft stump]

Is just massive open map things.

[thorn cedar]

but like a cool smyker

this is with assail or bb

when i smyker on expeditions i dont do EP because the density rarely demands it

[pale prairie]

Don’t worry if we play together I can fix the density problem

[pale prairie]

Yeah I am talking all modes

[deft stump]

I dunno. I WS/EP only.

[pale prairie]

Beekeeper

[deft stump]

Or trauma/burga with bb.

Need sub 50 ping for trauma though.

[wraith sphinx]

I've made zero adjustments to any of my existing builds for the purposes of expedition mode. Majority of my builds still use DD and it performs just fine

[deft stump]

Luck based, I would assume.

[thorn cedar]

It's still workable but I have absolutely noticed a performance difference.

I'll actually lose all of my stacks sometimes which is something that basically never happens in a normal game.

[formal dew]

I love disrupt destiny

[wind spruce]

BB is a weird pick over assail, particularly for expeditions

[formal dew]

I don't know if it's an intended thing, but if I kill a marked enemy with brain burst I get 3 stacks of DD

[wind spruce]

Especially with bistol

[formal dew]

with the weak spot perk

[formal dew]

I keep brain burst with bistol simply because I use soulflame

[worthy trellis]

That is mostly me being lazy and focusing on simple combat to free up mind space for positional awareness.

I can give Assail a shot but wasn't sure when to typically use it

[wind spruce]

BB hits weakspots

[wind spruce]

Do you mean you're using shriek?

[wind spruce]

Use it to kill shooters, ragers, specials, hordelings

You can swap to assail, shoot two shards, and swap back to melee in roughly 1s.

Those two shards could kill up to 8 enemies

[deft stump]

It's a lazy pick for meleekers.

[wind spruce]

A lot quicker than meleeing them down.

Provides stagger.

Kills stuff out of range.

[wind spruce]

Sad

[deft stump]

Because KF.

[wind spruce]

It's not worth it.

[deft stump]

But is better if they never weave.

[wind spruce]

Nah even if they're just using assail when stuff is out of range its better

[deft stump]

They just use gun then. Lmao.

[wind spruce]

They have bistol...

Its a sniping tool not a wave clearer

[deft stump]

Yeah, but you shoot to suppress and run in.

[wind spruce]

You waste time and possibly get out of position

[deft stump]

Then they just run to closest horde and let others deal with the shooters.

[pale prairie]

I think Irosk is wrong but that’s a knee jerk since I didn’t read anything

[wind spruce]

FGS is slow, bistol is single target, low mag capacity. They need a multi-target tool beyond just the FGS special.

[deft stump]

FGS special+bleed.

[pale prairie]

Assail exists

[deft stump]

XD

[pale prairie]

Ugh

[wind spruce]

Ok but what if they actually want to play well, improve their skills/build and not generally be a liability

[wind spruce]

TRUUUUE

[pale prairie]

Whoa whoa whoa you can’t just assume people want to play well

[wind spruce]

Thats what im saying MITCHELL

[pale prairie]

Some people take all stamina regen

[pale prairie]

FUCK YOU MEAN I AGREED WITH YOU?!?

[wind spruce]

And sprint efficiency

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/error-taylor-swift-andrea-kidd-gif-18761311

[wind spruce]

You said i was wrong u lil shit

[deft stump]

You mean, Block effi.

[wind spruce]

Nooooo

Sprint efficiency is the goat

[deft stump]

Where is that image of my curios?

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/caught-shame-red-handed-sad-gif-12940320

[deft stump]

More traumatising than the trauma staff.

[formal dew]

no the scrier stance

[wind spruce]

So by using soulflame you mean that you, what... have it on your sword?

[formal dew]

Yeah for the fgs

and the flame perk on killing elites

[wind spruce]

May the emperor give me strength

You're essentially just wasting a blessing my dude

[pale prairie]

Its a meme build

[wind spruce]

Not everything is like your dna

[formal dew]

well it spreads the fire easily in hordes with the special attack

[wind spruce]

It doesnt work with the FGS special

The blessing only triggers on melee crit and the special counts as a ranged attack.

Go try it in the psykhanium and see.

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/emoji-turning-into-ash-gif-5170814802321083685

[pale prairie]

No

[wind spruce]

Dont confuse the younglings

[formal dew]

Uh... really?

[wind spruce]

Yes really

[wind spruce]

Its sad bc it would be cool if it worked

[wind spruce]

Did you not just get attacked?

Or was it a terrain issue

[pale prairie]

Damn I really thought fire would protect me from the mauler overhead

[wind spruce]

Have u ever tried mauling a flame?

[formal dew]

True...

The flame perk is still good though

doesn't rely solely on me hunting elites to spread DoT

[wind spruce]

No its not

[thorn cedar]

wildfire?

[wind spruce]

Blazing spirit on melee

[thorn cedar]

oh the blessing

sad

[formal dew]

If we're being honest isn't soulblaze kinda mid anyway

[wind spruce]

Its good thinking to see a synergy between blazing spirit and perilous combustion, but sadly its not good

[thorn cedar]

not at all

[wind spruce]

Its the most powerful offensive mechanic in the game

[cosmic cobalt]

how is soulblaze weak

[formal dew]

Does warp slice work with blazing spirit?

[radiant frigate]

lol

[radiant frigate]

no

[wind spruce]

Bc they're presumably a new player vsing 6 poxwalkers snd 2 ragers each game and thats it

[radiant frigate]

blazing spirit is only a good pick on trauma

[wind spruce]

Not how you want it to

[formal dew]

man what's the fucking point of having this cool wave attack if I can't even set people on fire with it

[dusk timber]

killing them directly

[radiant frigate]

the point is that it fucking kills people on impact

[formal dew]

have to settle for discount Sukuna lmao

[wind spruce]

You can make them bleed from it

[radiant frigate]

if you want to set people on fire, use shriek

[formal dew]

I think you'd bleed naturally from being bisected lol

[wind spruce]

Equip a bolt pistol with puncture and switch to ranged after you loose the FGS special

[formal dew]

I like using scriers

[wind spruce]

It'll apply bleed

[cosmic cobalt]

not very practical but funny

[wind spruce]

Or you know the most powerful weapon in the game

[formal dew]

lets me lead up to my big special attack, running at the nearest elite enemy and suicide bombing them

[radiant frigate]

pourquoi

[wind spruce]

You're already committing suicide with your blessing set up may aswell take some heretics with you

[radiant frigate]

that seems like a really elaborate plan just to commit subaru

[formal dew]

Ok so if I get rid of blazing spirit, what do I replace it with?

I use Wrath to help with getting my special attack quicker

[wind spruce]

Unstable power + riposte or shred

[formal dew]

deflector?

[radiant frigate]

unstable and your choice of crit blessing (riposte/shred)

thanks irosk i suck at typing

[wind spruce]

Can use deflector if you want, yeah

[radiant frigate]

is possible

[formal dew]

Unstable gives you 5% strength at tier 4

[wind spruce]

I literally wrote people instead of powerful in my previous message 😭

I should go to bed

[wind spruce]

It stacks 4 times

Shit description

Check out kuli's guides in the pins so you can learn more about what stuff actually does sincr fatshark dont communicate it well

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3094028505

[pale prairie]

I tried mauling you and you’re a flamer