psyker-class

[zealous wing]

psyker is, of all the trees, the most versatile to get something functional

[zealous helm]

I was just about to mention that. It looked really appealing.

JAD?

[verbal thistle]

Just A Dream

[zealous wing]

just a dream

[zealous helm]

Ah

[long saddle]

I mean warp ghost isn't really forcing you

since you usually want warp rider anyway

and then it's just one point away

[zealous helm]

Why not? Pair it with by crack of bone and you’d pretty reliably be able to keep peril low to middling.

[long saddle]

like I don't have to continue to empowered psyonics just because I specced two points there

[zealous wing]

hell you could run this and it'd work. not ideal, but itd be funny, because keystoneless

[pale prairie]

Try this and take off Just. Dream if you have problems with it

[long saddle]

25 and no weakspot bonus is dire

[pale prairie]

Also switch that DD node depending on how good you are at maintaining stacks

[pale prairie]

Nah it’s shrimple

Especially if you go heavy las pistol

Or gun

[zealous helm]

I thought about staff for a while, because I’m mostly going to be using melee and didn’t want to take ammo from the team, but IDK.

None of them really work well with the build

Wait

[pale prairie]

Staff works great too just takes a bit more skill to manage than gun

[zealous helm]

Electo staff could contribute to the meme by stunning things

[pale prairie]

Especially if you don’t have Scriers or shriek to vent

[pale prairie]

Voidblast would work better for CC

Again careful about blowing up

[long saddle]

I just think your standards for meme is p low

[zealous helm]

I’ve got a decent amount of that. I may not be really sweaty or know the numbers well, but I’ve been playing since day one, and have a good amount of mechanical skill.

[long saddle]

these just sound like fairly normal build stuff

[pale prairie]

Rending voidblast

[pale prairie]

He wanted to play tank shrug

[zealous helm]

Yes, but it lacks the ability to freeze people in place, which contributes to the meme

[pale prairie]

I mean it’s shock 2 things for 1 sec or Knock down a whole pack of crushers

It’s up to you

[zealous helm]

Eh. I’ll probably try both and see what feels more fun.

I’ll probably use all this as a guide and just post what I made in here afterwards. It’s going to be shit, but that’s kinda the point.

[zealous wing]

i mean you could always go full meme and just suipsyker

[pale prairie]

Honestly it’s not going to really be shit since it’s used quite a lot at high levels. Now the WAY it’s gonna be played though

[zealous helm]

I already have one of those. Tho I might add crystalline to this build if I can afford it. I love suipsyker.

[pale prairie]

I like to picture the psyker wheezing from bottoming out stamina and knife sprinting

[glacial field]

hey guys

for psycher is dome spam still the better build for havoc

or is the wall a better option now

[zealous helm]

I just realized I can’t actually post the build due to not having the convict role.

Damn…

[marble crater]

https://tenor.com/view/noperms-gif-27260516

[ripe obsidian]

Reddit tells me keystones are a waste of points

[zealous wing]

games lantern, post link

https://darktide.gameslantern.com

[ripe obsidian]

Neither. Dome is stronger, imo, but both are weaker than Shriek or SG, and have been for a long time

[marble crater]

I misread that and wondered what Dom has to do with it

[zealous helm]

Gonna have to make an account. So I’ll do it in a bit once I’m no longer on my phone.

[pale prairie]

Just bitter that double walls doesn’t protect you from snipers and trappers

[pale prairie]

Points are a waste of points

Behold true meta skill build

And the only build Path thinks is balanced and fair

[marble onyx]

add on weapons with godrolls, no blessings, and no perks

[ripe obsidian]

Ainz got trapped through 4 walls in our no-peril runs

[pale prairie]

Hotfix

—walls now actually block shit

[marble crater]

"Now using European instead of US walls"

[silent frigate]

card boards you mean ?

[pale prairie]

“Oh man we tried to patch or modify the walls but since they are European we can’t…”

[marble crater]

[ripe obsidian]

Going for the Berlin package?

[marble crater]

Guess that could work, because of the limited duration

[swift stag]

European walls has a no man zone in-between

[wispy oyster]

whats the new pew pew

[verbal thistle]

Lamia-Lover punted

[ripe obsidian]

I like your corpse ragdolling

[steep cedar]

This store is amazing

[ripe obsidian]

No you're amazing

:(

[pale prairie]

No you are amazing

[spice aurora]

real shi tho does charged strikes work with staff melee

[pale prairie]

it used to

[spice aurora]

damnit

[pale prairie]

beans had some silly videos of it actually being effective

BUT WE CAN'T HAVE FUN

[neon laurel]

Just started playing again after a month or two break. These expeditions are pretty cool! Did yall have to change your build for this different kind of map, or does the same old same old work just fine? I'm feeling like with all the bigger areas, maybe more stamina would be helpful.

[pale prairie]

I think just keep in mind that ranged weapons are good and ranged enemies more dangerous (cause of the big spaces) stamina is good too since the smart strategy is avoiding patrols since as you rack up kills the spawns get bigger and bigger

[neon laurel]

Telekine bubble shield has served my team better than scrier's gaze thus far

[main crow]

I didn’t change anything, I also tend to always be wary of gunners anyways so it works out

[rich spindle]

When you pop but she keep casting

[verbal thistle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1489434485400408184/5D18591.MP4?ex=69d06775&is=69cf15f5&hm=e35a95d333ee3e05831bad0f530232b10f3d818256b9868e0e9d81b9f4877eff&

[charred pawn]

Can assail deal with crushers and maulers

Like literally never play this class

[crisp ether]

Not really.

[charred pawn]

Is brain pop viable at all btw, last I played like, forever ago it was ass but its always been my favorite

[crisp ether]

Assail is a horde clear kind of blitz mostly

[crisp ether]

Looks like this salmon, is about to get fried. 😎

[thorn cedar]

action frame in an anime

whatever fucked up the spawns has made the hab dreyko finale real fun

[crisp ether]

It was never really bad to begin with.

Hasn't really changed. Except Kinetic Flayer

Which isn't complete ass anymore.

And is actually very good now.

[jovial juniper]

No
Stops existing once it hits carapace

[pale prairie]

It’s very popular with shriek fire builds when you grab kinetic flayer and perilous combustion

[pale prairie]

Look it can work sometimes if they are already low and you are at max Scriers gaze and dd stacks and max peril…..

[jovial juniper]

20% of the time it works everytime

[pale prairie]

It’s so ass but very funny

[charred pawn]

Good to know

I love brain pop

Wow there are an absurd amount of

Builds on this doc

I legit don't even know where to startr

Does anyone have a brain pop recommendation

[wind spruce]

Assail is a non-armoured elite, special and shooter management tool with minor horde clearing capacity.

[wind spruce]

Build guides in pins

[verbal thistle]

love bursters who cant climb 😔

[pale prairie]

EK staff shriek build or inferno staff shriek build

[rich spindle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLxdW-DJjEA

if you wanna bb and not just kill everything with soulblaze

[wraith sphinx]

I can't watch the video but I made a both nodes bb gaze ep build which is def the most fun way to actively use bb imo

[icy breach]

I use that with trauma; its perfect for bosses

[jovial juniper]

Nice album cover

[zealous wing]

i think thats been posted before ages ago

[crystal thunder]

question, for the defy fate penance does it have to be done in a single match?

its the one where you need to keep up stacks of disrupt destiny

😅

[manic bluff]

Iirc you do not have to do it in a single match

[crystal thunder]

ah yes, i have been dreading something that didnt exist

thank the emperor

[quartz barn]

Looking at the desricption im not sure if they changed it, but before you needed to be at 25 stacks if you have the perk that increases the max

Basically be at max possible stacks for penance prog

[crystal thunder]

yep it was so

it didnt have to be in a single match ^^

also didnt seem to be max stacks as it was before with the 25 stacks

now i am done with psyker's penances for now, gotta wait for a couple of days for my friends to come on and play some private matches :)

[quartz barn]

Now get 7k penance score

[crystal thunder]

[indigo plank]

It comes faster than you think

Make sure you grab all the martyr's skulls at some point so you never have to again 😛

Tbh there's a few that I will always hit because they're very fast to solo

One map it's just a bunch of valves on the path you should be taking anyways

Another you just light two candles with symbols from a board like 20ft away

[fossil bridge]

Someday…

I think the current penance cap is what? 7400-7600 or something?

[main crow]

Fatshark should add more penances so I can get 4500 by being lazy

[zealous wing]

you can tho tbh

[fossil bridge]

I was bored of the game until I switched to becoming a penance hunter. It turned every mission in to a mini game where I was clearing the mission while optimizing point gain.

Now I’m sitting at 6255 and have cleared most of them.

I started watching this channel as I’ve been ranking up in havoc for those penances as psyker and I want to improve my play. I’ve taken some of the stuff here to heart and have some question but since I’m not home I can’t post my build or gear choices.

[quartz barn]

Idk what the new one is, old one before expeditions was 6605

[hoary mauve]

I'm shit at the solo pakour ones.

[indigo plank]

Honestly at this point I just have the "do this specific mission (X) times" ones because I always just QP

[atomic echo]

honestly i'm still missing so many.

when i first started darktide my friends who got me into it knew where they all were, but i was kinda bad at platforming then so we just kinda lost track on which ones i had. now they dont play anymore and since i mostly play with randos now idk which ones ive found on my own or with them anymore haha

the only one i 100% know how to do is the one where you grab the key from the body in the alleyway to open the gate in that bar ? i think its the carnival but icr

[pale prairie]

I’ve never completed any of the puzzle or platforming ones lmao. Never found the penances compelling

[atomic echo]

i just got one of them the other day. i noticed a suspicious ledge in a stairwell and said to my buddy in the chat "this has to be the martyr skull right ?" and followed it and voila lmao

but yeah basically same other than that the penance isn't enough to compel me

[thorn cedar]

my job is to kill things

i am very good at my job

[pale prairie]

Debatable

/s

[thorn cedar]

-kills-

[pale prairie]

Lmao

[pale prairie]

Yeah I have done a handful just cause over time I have randomly grouped with someone that pinged a bunch and showed me but the gameplay loop of killing things and overcoming modifiers or teammates being new to the game is way more distracting to me than finding all the skulls. I am always impressed at people figuring out stuff from just exploring though.

It’s hard to explore in some of the more dense difficulties haha

“Oh a suspicious—grabbed by mutie”

[atomic echo]

damn, they're good

[atomic echo]

LITERALLY lmao like i know that one level with the showers has one bc of the little symbols on the showers but i never have the time to do it myself before im pushing a poxburster or a hound away from me

[ripe obsidian]

My Beloved says we must be cleverer than the blunts, as well as better at killing

That's why he drives me to make spreadsheets

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/marvel-is-it-though-thor-bruce-banner-gif-14242312

[ripe obsidian]

Of course

[fossil bridge]

You can check the exploration tab in the penances and it will show you.

I YouTube’d most of the skulls I needed and had a friend show me where a few others were.

[atomic echo]

i plan on it next time i have a 4 stack. i managed to get the one i found the other day but only after 5 or so minutes of me attempting the platforming course so i felt bad for our rando who was just standing there on the ledge killing everything that tried to follow us lol

[fossil bridge]

I meant it will tell you which ones you don’t have. :D

[atomic echo]

yeh ! i'll track em all down then haha

[fossil bridge]

The jumping puzzles were the worst of them really. Platforming in first person is not fun.

Then there’s a few weird ones like the shooting gallery where you have to shoot the blue bottles and if you accidentally hit any of the brown ones you have to reload the mission.

[pale prairie]

This is how you know Fatshark discriminates against ogryns

[fossil bridge]

I don’t remember the map but ther worst ones are dark communion and one in the torrent.

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/worship-gif-8482959356060740609

[fossil bridge]

The torrent one makes you jump over a bottomless pit. If you screw up you need someone to pull you up, if you really screw up congrats, casualty.

[pale prairie]

Apparently penances are named that for a reason

[fossil bridge]

Eh they’re not so bad.

Most of them are just tedium.

I was ecstatic when the Ogryn event launched. I finished all three 1500 kill penances in a week and a half. And the last heretical penance I didn’t have which was dodge reaper shots.

But I’d rather have stuff that’s skill based instead of “do the same thing x amount of times” so I can just do the thing once and be done. ;/

[indigo plank]

Is that the one that spirals up to a small catwalk with the skull on an altar? Just after a bridge you take a right and go all the way down to get up top

Somehow Ive never mucked that one up but the other one where you gotta jump across broken planks in a really dark room gets me lol

[fossil bridge]

That’s the one.

Across the bridge on the right?

[indigo plank]

Yeah

[fossil bridge]

Jump up the container?

[indigo plank]

Mhmm

[fossil bridge]

Yeah that one was my bane.

[indigo plank]

That one's tough on Ogryn I will admit

My butthole clenches

[fossil bridge]

That and the dark communion one are the only ones that gave me an issue.

[indigo plank]

The mantle will save you most of the time

most haha

[fossil bridge]

I do have all the skulls currently available.

I really wanted the different titles.

[wind spruce]

So good*

[tepid prairie]

for force sword should the dump stat be mobility or warp resistance

[long saddle]

warp

[tepid prairie]

thanks

[lean pivot]

Really not mobility? Wouldn't we want warp resistance?

[zealous wing]

psyker thrives at high peril, so low warp is good for that purpose. then, it also isnt a hinderance otherwise, it isnt a damage drop nor movement drop

[pale prairie]

Warp Rider gives more damage the more peril, One with the Warp gives more DR when higher peril, Warpsplicing gives more cleave while more peril, and Unstable Power blessing gives more Strength when higher peril

More peril is good

[zealous wing]

some of us even search for the lowest possible stat we can find for warp res with everything else at 80s, ie i have an 18/60 warp res FGS, with all the others at 80

[pale prairie]

Oh right warp nexus blessing more crit chance when more peril

[cosmic sigil]

Did it start at 0? I couldn't go lower than 22 and I spent millions.

[rustic viper]

Hey, can someone drop a link or guide me towards a meta havoc psyker build?

[pale prairie]

Pins Bonanza build guide

[rustic viper]

cheers, I'll have a look, any build you recommend?

[pale prairie]

Anything with fire shriek build around soulblaze

[neon laurel]

I have warp nexus and blaze away on my staff, and shred and unstable power on my greatsword

[dusky crag]

Longest 50 meters of your life

[ripe obsidian]

Friends

[pale prairie]

Needs more rot armor

[rich spindle]

It’s ok he has a Chainsword 👍

He Will Be Fine

[pale prairie]

Oh my god you’re right

#bestweapon
#whatiscarapace

[jovial juniper]

When there's nosh at the function

[dire wharf]

What a clutch I just had. At the bottom of some stairs at a dead end, blocked in by a plague ogryn with 4 pox hounds. Other 3 team mates were all up the stairs, each of them pinned by a pox hound

[spice aurora]

hammerblow enables crazy ragdoll lmfao

look at the sky he got SENT over the fknb uilding

[pale prairie]

Deserved

[crisp ether]

We love turning a finesse weapon into a blunt instrument

I don't know why devil's claw has hammerblow

But I will not complain.

[spice aurora]

or why it has 200 stagger blessings

i hate that this hammerblow sc shit is working

i made a rager do a bakflip

[pale prairie]

What mk you using?

[spice aurora]

7

doin few games with 7 then tryin 1 then bak n forth xD

[pale prairie]

Curious about your takes after

[dapper slate]

I have unstable on my force sword

What’s the other blessing that would be good

[charred pawn]

How the hell am I supposed to maintain SG in a fight

Like I feel like I'm barely getting above like 10 before the the sheer number of guys makes it so I can't be quelling

[pale prairie]

If it’s FGS? Something that provides crit chance is always good, riposte and shred are popular.

[wind spruce]

You get to 13 minimum if you dont use a peril generating action

[pale prairie]

? You can grab By Crack of Bone if you are trying to stack max. Did you grab the precognition node? Helps damage stack since weak point kills count as being in SG

[dapper slate]

Regular force sword

[pale prairie]

Slaughterer and uncanny are nice too

[dapper slate]

Ohhh

[dapper slate]

What would change if I take either slaughter or uncanny

[pale prairie]

Uncanny is nice cause it helps with killing armor. If you use soulblaze at all in the build having your sword out with uncanny stacks makes your dots do more damage to carapace. Slaughterer is really nice for clearing chaff hordes especially with unstable. I would try both and see what you like best

[charred pawn]

I have frankly no clue

[pale prairie]

screen shot of build or link to games lantern?

[charred pawn]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9fbb65d7-2fe0-402d-9630-65e5876d4477/havocauric-staff-pysker-sciers-gaze-disrupt-destiny

[spice aurora]

Did a couple h40 with mk1 and mk7, duo run and solo last alive against dreg and scab seeds, couple runs each

I think I prefer the 7. While 20% more cara / unyield dps is cool, it doesn’t matter as much because I just parry spam bosses, reapers bulwrk die fast anyway

Carapace its nice but I say fk it and just needle pistol them lol

The 7 just gets rid of thick hordes so much better. I took off cleave talent too and its basically still faster than mk1 with cleave node

Didnt run into rot yet but will tomorrow xD

[charred pawn]

Lowkey dont even know how to really play psyker as super high level so I probably just gotta watch some vods

[pale prairie]

thank you

[spice aurora]

Any specific build

[charred pawn]

.

[charred pawn]

This one ^

Mostly just using elecro staff because I have one

[spice aurora]

This may or may not b relevant but I play builds I like to play better

Like I can play a shit build better bc I like it vs something meta

I think first Q is do you actually like the weapons and stuff in it

[charred pawn]

Yea thats what Im still finding out

Tbh I've never been the biggest psyker fan but all my of friends decided to finally get the game and psyk+ the new character are the only ops I don't have leveled so

I love brain pop though, its hilariously fun to me for no reason

[radiant frigate]

have to say I'm very much not a fan of that build

[charred pawn]

Yea i havent had tooo much fun with it but

Was trying to branch out more then just brain pop

[radiant frigate]

the build just screams disharmony to me

but maybe i need to be a level 1000 psyker to see through the noise

[spice aurora]

Psyker is sold as the staff class but you can use melee and guns and all sorts of stuff and still play into the warp fantasy

[charred pawn]

I like using their warp powers

Like I said brain pop enthusiast

[radiant frigate]

sword wizard is epic

[charred pawn]

Ive had a lot of fun with Empowered psionics with Brain rupture

[radiant frigate]

similarly if hive scum was sold as the "dodgy bastard stabinator" instead of "glass cannon aggressive ranged" I'd have played it much sooner

[charred pawn]

Yea i havent even begun to look into that class

played like two games and my first thoughts were "This feels kinda boring"

[radiant frigate]

but anyway glass cannon no longer has meaning
everyone is tanky despite their squishy human physiology

[wraith sphinx]

The reddit whiners won...

(So many people still eat shit in pub missions)

[radiant frigate]

real

[obsidian bane]

brain explosion smoothie, goes good with blueberries

[dire wharf]

So good!

[radiant frigate]

especially now

i played it when it still somewhat sucked

but now? no more weaknesses

[dire wharf]

What weaknesses did it used to have

[radiant frigate]

was a lot more susceptible to bursters and could not survive overheads

depending on the exact flavor of sword wizard it may also have struggled with some targets

e.g. illisi suffered on ogryn-sized targets

or dueling sword would have suffered vs hordes

also much worse toughness gen back then

illisi could get by with soulstealer and the DS variant could use assail for it

but it was much less resilient overall

[wraith sphinx]

basically, most of psyker's drawbacks regarding survivability have been minimized, so the class can be built to be highly tanky now

if you're not a complete disaster at the game you can easily stick on enough damage resistance and TDR/toughgen talents that you become essentially immune to trashmob chip damage on auric or equivalent

[radiant frigate]

true fact aye

a lot of classes can facetank a lot of things now

with the exception of maybe vet

but in return vet is basically bulletproof in a firefight

notsomuch with a boss in your face however

[little coyote]

What do y'all think the 60% stat for a thunder hammer should be?

[silver wing]

defences

[little coyote]

I don't think the thunder hammer has defense.

[silver wing]

wait this is in psyker chat

i thought i was in zealot for a sec

[zealous wing]

zealot chat is scary

[little coyote]

I appear to have misclicked.

[zealous wing]

this is where the nerds are dw

[little coyote]

Psyker used to be my main, probably will remain so but I am bored and the dumb challenge I made for myself is to get all the cross-class weapons mastered.

@silver wing @zealous wing

You're both wrong btw. Proven by this 100% legit and not edited image.

[zealous wing]

hope you have fun

[loud girder]

What is brother listening to

[scarlet mica]

Does Empathic Evasion provide immunity against sniper?

[zealous wing]

yes

[wind wind]

Ive browsed the bonanza builds for voidblast staff. But i am undecided which one to take. My preferred melee is the knife due to mobility. But i cant really figure out what build would work best and If i should incorporate the melee nodes on the skilltree or invest those points somewhere else.

[zealous wing]

i do have a very fidgety trauma/knife build

if you wanna give it a try

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a1005f75-f2d5-4353-ad09-96218a14f7b0/adhd-mode-lol

its very odd, can switch keystones pretty easily as well though

h30 verified

[deft stump]

That's panic stealth once stam breaks.

[zinc phoenix]

are you doing auric or havoc? If just auric you can get as weird as you like and it can be pretty fun doing a mix of both. If havoc you really want to specialize in one or the other

[wind wind]

I never touch havoc lmao

[wind wind]

Thx. I'll give it a try

[zinc phoenix]

Then I wouldn’t get too hung up on the build list other than as a source of ideas and what we know works

If you get too optimized in auric youll kill the fun of it

[wraith sphinx]

I can't speak to talent distribution specifics, but for the weapon itself, rending flurry is my fave trauma build

[wind wind]

With the teammates i am getting recently i need to be as poweful as possible .

Even on auric

[wind wind]

Noted

I'll play around with it. If i can get the game to not fucking rubberband for a damn second

[zinc phoenix]

IMO rending trauma is something you can slot into most builds while fire trauma really requires you to play a pretty specific setup or it’s kinda ass

[wraith sphinx]

true

[zinc phoenix]

But in that build it’s god tier 😂

[wind wind]

Also, i have a meme build i wanna share with y'all later. Its bubble smyker with the vigilant autogun

I call it point controll

[wraith sphinx]

[dire wharf]

Which secondary weapon has the best mobility stats

Heavy las pistol?

[wraith sphinx]

autopistol may have it beat by a margin but I'm not sure

[lyric mica]

yez

is laspistol

[dire wharf]

Thanks

[cursive shell]

Climbing through havoc with public/randos, in low 30s now with inferno/shriek. Noticing more team wipes now - worth switching to bubble, or keep ballin with shriek?

[wind wind]

And I looked, and behold, a pale horse! And its rider’s name was Death, and Hades followed him. And they were given authority over a fourth of the earth, to kill with sword and with famine and with pestilence and by wild beasts of the earth.

As promised. My point controll build

[formal harness]

brother why no screenshots lol

or build editor

[wind wind]

Because i dont have discord on my Laptop and i am too lazy for build creator

[zealous wing]

things being dead tends to be better, but if you think it'll help keep you and the team alive you can try. just be aware you'll kill things much slower

[wind wind]

I DARE ONE OF YOU TAKE THIS BUILD INTO HAVOC 35-40

[wind wind]

Alternative solution: stop playing havoc with randoms

[cursive shell]

Kinda what I figured, ty. I'm not very good at bubble and was wondering if it's worth investing time in it, or if shriek is just better anyway

sounds like a skissue on my end 🫡

might start doing dedicated groups once I reach 40, but wanted to at least get there the 'hard' way myself lol

[zealous wing]

not really, bubble is good but shriek is better

bubble has specific cases where its better to have thasn shriek, while shriek is all around great to have at any time

dont get me wrong, its worth learning, but, its definitely very defensive, and wont help you tear through rotten armour like inferno shriek can

[scarlet mica]

I think trauma + shriek would be a good psyker solution for rotten armour

[zealous wing]

inferno shriek is better

for ttk at least

well no maybe not

hmm

but they are comparable

if its a rending shriek, technically might be the most ideal

[ripe obsidian]

Trauma is fine for CC. But RMB does so little damage.

It's like 1100 per RMB at most.

[zealous wing]

funnily enough using channeled force helps trauma a ton

[ripe obsidian]

Only if you're doing full charge RMBs, which I strongly do not recommend

[scarlet mica]

Due to the charging speed?

[ripe obsidian]

Charging speed is slow, and a full charge doesn't offer very much over a low charge

If you're doing blazing trauma, a crit still spreads fire. If you're doing rending, enemies are still hit with brittleness. The damage is lower and more focused on a low charge, but you can get low charges off so quickly it doesn't matter much. Plus, low charges allow you to maintain 80%+ peril with only one tap quell between each RMB, so really good uptime

[heavy urchin]

What's the ideal Force Greatsword? 60 Warp resist?

[zealous wing]

warp res is the dump stat yeah

some of us like going lower than 60

[zealous wing]

not even, just prime targets with lmb

[heavy urchin]

yeah seems pretty irrelevant

[zealous wing]

29 warp res gives 50.2 peril iirc

meaning 2 activations to 100 peril rather than 3

might be 50.4 peril

[heavy urchin]

is there a benefit to get fast to 100 peril?

[zealous wing]

warp splitting, warp rider, unstable power

damage and cleave go brrr

[heavy urchin]

That one looks fun

but it's a purely melee build right?

[zealous wing]

what is

[heavy urchin]

the peril talents

[zealous wing]

lol

warp rider is core to all psyker builds

a must-take

warp splitting is for any melee build, or if you use assail heavily

unstable power is FGS blessing

+20% strength based on peril, in 20% peril increments

[heavy urchin]

allright I'll read about that, thank you

[ripe obsidian]

Which is wasting time imo, because you could be doing RMB in that time for more AoE effectiveness. Forcing to alternate between RMB and LMB for a pretty low damage increase is overall not great.

[clear stag]

I wish this was true lmao

[ripe obsidian]

10% damage on RMB is unlikely to achieve any meaningful change or breakpoint

[ripe obsidian]

Shriek is better than bubble.

Bubble is absolutely weaker than Shriek or SG if used well.

[clear stag]

Suppose it depends on what your role is

[ripe obsidian]

It doesn't

In short, Shriek allows you to remove threats. It is a 30m application of 6 stacks of Soulblaze, plus a stagger strong enough to pause even Crushers. It has a minimum 8.36 second cooldown, too.

Bubble allows you to mitigate threats, but does not remove them.

It gives a team safety for 6.6 to 20ish second, depending on volume of fire received

But it doesn't remove any of the danger permanently

It takes initiative away from the player who chose bubble

[clear stag]

Oh I love shriek the most and am aware it is good. I just always saw bubble as more useful for auric or havoc

[ripe obsidian]

Nah, I use Shriek or SG exclusively for H40s

Bubble is just meh

I don't think any of the people I play H40 with use bubble either

I do think Bubble is the meta, but it's still weaker.

[tacit stump]

which taxe mark do you recommend?

[ripe obsidian]

VII is the best, as I understand it

[fossil bridge]

7 unless you’re hive scum.

[tacit stump]

and do you think they gonna rework force sword special?

[ripe obsidian]

One can hope. But I doubt it

[clear stag]

It's good for anything with a high number of ranged attacks, using staff to do as you described.

[ripe obsidian]

Problem is, more ranged attacks means bubble dies faster

Under constant fire, bubble lasts 6.6 seconds

[tacit stump]

snipers are kinder weak against bubble

[clear stag]

Gotta get them fast

[ripe obsidian]

Bubble is still a strong option. It's useful. It's just not as impactful as SG or Shriek when used well.

[clear stag]

Shriek is nice, I agree

[tacit stump]

scriers gaze is turbo loaded solo auric psyker

[clear stag]

My fav

I think the problem some have with bubble is they don't take that part into account

[ripe obsidian]

I always groan a little when I see an H40 psyker using Inferno + Bubble instead of Inferno + Shriek

Shriek is a ridiculous tool

Like, with Shriek as my sole source of Soulblaze, I do 800k+ soulblaze damage in a 30-35 minute game

Shriek is stronger than Inferno, and without Shriek, Inferno struggles

Comparatively*

[tacit stump]

question is when get inferno nerfed

[wind wind]

@ripe obsidian can you make sense of the build i posted up earlier? I always enjoy the challenge of it on mael. Although thats probably on me and my skilllevel

[ripe obsidian]

Likely never, because the average Psyker is very bad.

[main crow]

They should nerf its cleave

[ripe obsidian]

Without cleave, Inferno becomes useless

[tacit stump]

then buff other aspects duh

[ripe obsidian]

Like, actually garbage, worse than Voidstrike

The issue with Inferno is not cleave. It's that it's a scaling damage weapon that can skip the scaling through Shriek, Perilous Combustion, and double stacks on crit

So you can get to 15+ stacks in a couple seconds

Instead of ~5 seconds as designed

[tacit stump]

and they should rework the staff tree nodes

they feel to specific

[ripe obsidian]

I just want Inferno users to stop using Empyric Shock

I hate it so much

[main crow]

Why?

[ripe obsidian]

Spamming LMB on Inferno is the worst way to use the staff

You get a pretty narrow line of CC on ragers

And give up damage, AoE, and range

Plus, RMB will CC non-elites anyway

So using LMB sometimes to CC knots of elites is fine

But spamming it constantly is just cosplaying as an even worse smite psyker

[main crow]

I like using it to brainburst crushers

Plus the extra damage is nice when youre doing some quick puffs to suppress gunner packs

Also easy extra damage on elites since you’re pushing them back anyways with it before you torrent/shriek

[dire wharf]

I try to avoid inferno lmb unless I know kinetic flayer is up

[ripe obsidian]

The extra damage is okay, it's not great. And you often have to give up better nodes to get very conditional damage

[clear stag]

It has its uses, but constant spamming of lmb on it is.. hmm

[main crow]

Well yeah, of course it’s gonna look bad if you assume someone is just only using lmb

[tacit stump]

i use lmb on inferno staff only when i sprint to a point in a slide to interrupt my enemies

[ripe obsidian]

A majority of random Inferno users I see in Havoc spam LMB

It's infuriating

[tacit stump]

and idk why but i am no fan of channeled force

[main crow]

It has surprisingly far range for suppressing gunners if you can’t kill them right this instant/need a second to charge rmb or whatever

[tacit stump]

and the other saves beside inferno are kinda weak...

[clear stag]

Goodness

I'm shaking my head

[atomic echo]

do ppl actually use inferno by just lmb spamming lmao

[ripe obsidian]

Yes

Way too much

[atomic echo]

oh god

[ripe obsidian]

I see Inferno users getting like 1m damage total in a 35+ minute H40

[main crow]

Bad players realize it keeps them alive despite their poor plays. It then becomes a crutch

[atomic echo]

i don't see damage numbers bc i am locked to vanilla but damn lol

[atomic echo]

i was gonna say it's inferno staff lmb only applies in use when there's a pox burster jumping at you around a corner 😭

[ripe obsidian]

For comparison, I usually hit 2m damage by 25-30m in non-purple H40s

Purple is usually higher.

When using Inferno, I mean

[main crow]

I use it to “parry” any enemies that are about to hit me before hitting them all with a stream of fire

[atomic echo]

yeah bingo. it's just a push

[main crow]

Or to stop a mob of gunners from shooting everything for a few seconds

[atomic echo]

other than that it's all just

FIREEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[ripe obsidian]

LMB is for quick interrupts or panicked staggering of ragers, yes

[dire wharf]

I won't use it to kill stuff but I've found it useful when I'm closing the gap to hit them with my BFG

Speaking of which, is there a better weapon for that particular use?

[radiant frigate]

for quick suppression?

or stagger

[dire wharf]

Suppression usually

[zinc phoenix]

I feel like at one point there was some meta where people needed to spam left click to get a blessing maxed out and then they’d do more damage than if they just did right click

[dire wharf]

Just something to keep them from shooting me

[radiant frigate]

any other staff
recommend surge surge

the little bolts have a remarkable amount of suppression

[cosmic cobalt]

macro qq cancel m1 is more damage than m2 iirc

much less range but yewh

[pale prairie]

It was the way old channeled force worked I believe. You could set a stacking debuff on big health enemies with a handful of LMBs then get bigger damage on RMB. Mostly a surge staff thing

Before the tree rework

[radiant frigate]

what the flop

that sounds more like empyric shock

[pale prairie]

Oh yeah whatever it was

It was on the left and you had to tax node through the”weapon swap” talent

[radiant frigate]

that talent was something indeed

[pale prairie]

It was the best of times

[radiant frigate]

empyric shock still exists btw

[pale prairie]

Yeah but it works differently now than it did

[radiant frigate]

how so
i thought it was just eggspanded to also work on inferno

[pale prairie]

It’s a timing thing. The time investment of stacking it vs. just RMB more (which provides a stun)

With quell cancel it could stack really fast then RMB so it was worth

[rich spindle]

It’s how Sauron felt watching Frodo futz around with the ring

[dire wharf]

Using the shredder autopistol for the first time, and, oh my

This might be the one for me

[cosmic sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/extreme-eggstreme-utmost-eggs-egg-gif-14227104

[zinc phoenix]

don’t TOUCH my ring u little fuk Frodo omg he doin it again

Nazgûl get him

[cosmic sigil]

I use either a shredder or a laspistol with fgs to close the distance. Laspistol is a bit unhinged on psyker so shredder feels more ethical 😄

[dire wharf]

I do really like the laspistol too, but the semiauto fire kills my finger

[cosmic sigil]

If you can use a mod like skitarius

I'm 43. I use my hands to work. I cannot play laspistol without it

[dire wharf]

45 and my fingers hate me 😤

And I play on xbox, so no mods

[rich spindle]

https://tenor.com/view/old-man-grandpa-gif-11055948006915227502

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/sashimi-food-gif-17975872

[main crow]

They really should add the accessibility option for semi auto guns

[dire wharf]

Biblically accurate tech noir

[verbal thistle]

spanked

[kind jay]

looks like taco bell night

[dark pagoda]

why do people glaze the fire staff so much

[pale prairie]

Cause it’s good?

[jovial juniper]

Cause it's good?

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/denzel-training-day-gif-16743259178450786472

[main crow]

Cause it’s hot?

[ripe obsidian]

Fire stick goes burn

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1004447866250613048/1295449409160478781/chiquichico-ezgif.com-instagif.gif

[main crow]

If your stick burns you should probably see a doctor

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/marvel-avengers-finally-someone-who-speaks-english-captain-america-tony-stark-gif-17147260

[pale prairie]

Only if it does for longer than 4 hours

[verbal thistle]

Difficulty scales with density, purg staff scales off density

so no matter how high difficulty gets purg will never fall off

it gets better the higher the diff

Sometimes when I see bulwarks my vision goes red

[dark pagoda]

it never falls off but i dont see where it's like.. on, i guess

i have the ideal one

but it doesn't really do much ? it basically cant kill crushers

[ripe obsidian]

Inferno + uncanny kills crushers.

And even still, having one enemy type that Inferno doesn't instakill is hardly a reason to consider it weak

[dark pagoda]

i mean its not weak i just dont see why people call it the most broken thing ever that solos games by itself

[ripe obsidian]

It does solo games by itself if you're skilled.

[dark pagoda]

ive seen people solo auric at level 1 with a grey claw sword so yeah that goes without saying

[verbal thistle]

wait who did this?

eggfever?

[formal dew]

what's the best version of the duelling sword?

[verbal thistle]

what are you going for?

[formal dew]

The Maccabian MKV seemed great

[verbal thistle]

mk4 as the most simple heavy attack (only poke)

but 2 and 5 have slash heavies

which are fun

5 has the best mobility

[dark pagoda]

i would like to use the broken staff but the psykanium doesn't make it seem that impressive

[formal dew]

2 has a stab and a slash, 5 has two overhead slashes

I use 4 on my veteran

but I'm kinda liking 5

[dark pagoda]

i was told that soulblaze ticks can crit for empathic evasion but that doesn't seem to be the case

[ripe obsidian]

Inferno stick has incredible cleave, good range, rapid damage scaling, and stupid ADMs against everything not a crusher

[ripe obsidian]

It is not quite true.

Soulblaze cannot crit. But if you crit and do not hit an enemy, the damage tick from soulblaze + the crit on empty air will trigger EE

Soulblaze on its own cannot proc EE

[dark pagoda]

what an odd interaction

[ripe obsidian]

Yes.

[crisp ether]

It's not that Inferno even has cleave

It's that it bypasses the mechanic entirely.

[ripe obsidian]

Yes.

Inferno hits everything

[crisp ether]

Which is honestly even worse than having giga cleave cuz it means carapace isn't a stopper for it

If carapace isn't dying immediately

Well

Everything around it is.

[formal dew]

It's insanely strong but I kinda hate having no range

[frail oar]

Spamming overheads feels like dancing

[formal dew]

I use a bolt pistol that just cracks everything

[dark pagoda]

this is what im rocking with for the fire staff

[verbal thistle]

a few odd choice but yeah thats a normal fire staff build

[formal dew]

I'm getting fond of the revolver though too

[dark pagoda]

what're my odd choices

[verbal thistle]

its funny how people gas light themselves into thinking PotS is good for purg

imo

[ripe obsidian]

PotS makes me sad.

[dark pagoda]

isn't rending peak

[verbal thistle]

yeah

[crisp ether]

God that reminds me of that dude who posted a screenie of another Discord chat gaslighting him into thinking PotS does anything meaningful for purge lol

[ripe obsidian]

Rending is not good on Inferno.

[verbal thistle]

what do you think it does on purg?

barely anything for purg

probably the worst weapon for rending

*PotS

[dark pagoda]

does it not apply to the soulblaze?

[verbal thistle]

yes******

with like 10 *

[ripe obsidian]

Soulblaze already has over 100% ADMs on everything not carapace

[crisp ether]

20% rending on soulblaze is a nothingburger

[dark pagoda]

do we really not take empyric shock on a staff build

[crisp ether]

Nah

[verbal thistle]

not worth using left click

dps loss

[ripe obsidian]

Empyric Shock is not good on Inferno

Spamming LMB is a bad idea

[dark pagoda]

ong? i animation cancel it and its way faster than secondary

[ripe obsidian]

There is basically no situation where LMB is better for damage than RMB.

LMB is for quick staggers

Using LMB for anything else is a loss to damage and AoE.

[verbal thistle]

even with animation cancle its a dps loss for right click spam min power

[pale prairie]

So that makes you sad but Empyric shock makes you mad

[ripe obsidian]

Empyric Shock is only worth taking on LMB EK, imo

[verbal thistle]

not a good talent overall imo, really only helps EK left click build

[dark pagoda]

is right click spam min power what ur meant to do

[crisp ether]

I think technically, the LMB's actual cast is very marginally stronger than RMB.

[ripe obsidian]

Yes. Anger

[crisp ether]

But the bulk of your damage doesn't come from the cast.

[ripe obsidian]

ES Inferno makes me angery

[crisp ether]

It's from the soulblaze itself.

[ripe obsidian]

~45% or lower charge to maintain Blaze Away

[pale prairie]

I never dump damage on needle pistol cause it’s the source of the damage

[dark pagoda]

huh wait

so like

i thought the magazine in this case would be the whole bar charged or not

but that seems to imply your 'magazine' is whenever you start

like if your meter is halfway that's a full magazine

or am i misunderstanding

[crisp ether]

[ripe obsidian]

It's like, 1 stack per 0.1 second of casting. It's weird and badly explained

[dark pagoda]

so rending is mid but strength is kosher?

[ripe obsidian]

Rending is dependent on the weapon's ADMs

[radiant frigate]

slash heavies are funny because they do an ungodly amount of unyielding damage

[ripe obsidian]

Strength is always very good

[radiant frigate]

worse into carapace but it feels great to dome a bulwark in one hit

[dark pagoda]

so how does fire psyker deal with crusher

brain burst?

[ripe obsidian]

In the pinned build guide, I have details on the ADMs for warp attacks

[ripe obsidian]

Melee, mostly.

[radiant frigate]

melee and/or rending

[dark pagoda]

dueling sword then

[radiant frigate]

also hi long time no see 👋🏻

[dark pagoda]

hi kat

[ripe obsidian]

That works. Or deimos/obscurus force swords, or force greatsword

[radiant frigate]

(this is entirely because i suck at keeping contact)

[ripe obsidian]

I use deimos mostly.

[radiant frigate]

i'd run a dueling sword personally

[dark pagoda]

force greatsword i don't really like, i could be wrong but it feels like its trying to solve a problen no psyker has ever had

which is hordes

[radiant frigate]

zippy and has uncanny (and isn't knife)

[dark pagoda]

it needs like 40 kills to charge up and the payoff is killing a horde, so you kill horde one and your payoff is.... well the horde is dead. maybe you can kill horde 2. that you evidently could've killed anyways

[radiant frigate]

force greatsword by design really wants to be the flagship weapon of the build

[dark pagoda]

is soulblaze kosher on bosses since it can hardly damage crushers

[ripe obsidian]

FGS is not amazing into hordes. It's fine, but it absolutely decimates single targets. The warp slash is great for hordes, tho

[ripe obsidian]

Is fine

[dark pagoda]

does it?

[ripe obsidian]

Has like 150% ADMs

[dark pagoda]

i have a kitted out fgs and it 4 shots crushers

[radiant frigate]

if you just want horde clear from your melee, there is illisi
if you want anti elite/boss, DS
if you want an allrounder that deals with anything, fgs, but it suffers in matters of mobility

[radiant frigate]

depends on build (somewhat)

left side will see different results

but scrier/dd will elevate it to a funny level

[dark pagoda]

i want to be a fire staff truther but it doesnt seem to be working out for me

[radiant frigate]

are you a shriek enjoyer

[dark pagoda]

so-so

[jovial juniper]

Dd FGS is more likely to consistently 1 shot crushers

[dark pagoda]

im using it but i wouldn't say i like it a lot or anything

[jovial juniper]

[radiant frigate]

perfectionism mayhap

without it i have been almost-oneshotting them (but that was with kf so basically cheating)

[dark pagoda]

what does dd refer to here

[radiant frigate]

disrupt destiny

[dark pagoda]

i do not recall what that is or what it does

oh its the capstone

is fire shriek more valuable than 24/7 secondary from scriers

[cosmic cobalt]

funny damage + finesse

pretty consistent too

[ripe obsidian]

Shriek and Scrier's are both very strong. Depends on your build

[jovial juniper]

Not really

[dark pagoda]

fire staff spam

[pale prairie]

Fire shriek is good for inferno

More stacks= more damage

[jovial juniper]

At ~83 your shriek only applies 6 stacks of blaze

[dark pagoda]

i heard it goes above the cap for soulblaze though and soulblaze is not linear

[jovial juniper]

Instead of Inferno 14 stacks

[dark pagoda]

so it'd be good for high hp things or something

[jovial juniper]

Which is good for like trash

[pale prairie]

It’s also good for managing multiple directions. Shriek in the direction of trash to kill and then keep focusing the other direction with staff

[crisp ether]

People don't know the craziness that is Scrier's DD inferno

[pale prairie]

I know it I just don’t prefer it

[dark pagoda]

i should try that

[rich spindle]

Shriek lets you reliably start the perilous combustion snowball

[cosmic cobalt]

inferno have no finesse damage

💀

[dark pagoda]

send shriek dd inferno build

[crisp ether]

DD and Scrier's increases global damage too

[pale prairie]

Probably in the pins Bonanza build guide

[jovial juniper]

[cosmic cobalt]

yeah except warp siphon is 24% damage instead of 25%

[crisp ether]

It's not optimal. But its fun.

[cosmic cobalt]

dd doesnt benefit staff outside surge m1

[rich spindle]

U can use a grey 290 power inferno and still do 2m damage

[jovial juniper]

1% less
What a dogshit keystone

[crisp ether]

Counterpoint. Nyoooom

[cosmic cobalt]

people literally have zero fucking attention span ig

literally scroll up like 10 line to see the context

[crisp ether]

I might be reading into this incorrectly

But I sense

They're being facetious

[cosmic cobalt]

literally 2 different thing altogether

dd doesnt work that well with inferno =/= dd is dogshit

[pale prairie]

More like

Facetious Higui

[crisp ether]

But it's fun.

So therefore it works well

[cosmic cobalt]

whatever

im gonna get you pregnant

[crisp ether]

It is legit the only way I can have fun with Inferno tbh

Damn, not even a date? Nice dinner?

I respect it.

[jovial juniper]

The dot on marked target/boss also refreshes the timer

So just burn it and go do something else

[crisp ether]

You also get the speed boost constantly while that's happening

It's really funny

[dark pagoda]

is cruel fortune kosher

[kindred fog]

They should turn some of the magic staffs in Vermintide 2 into new force staffs for the psyker class

specifically the Sister of the Thorn’s staff from Kerillian’s DLC class of the same name

[radiant frigate]

it is pretty much core if running perfectionism

10s stack variant can get away without it

[cosmic cobalt]

if i have to choose between focus and owtw which one is better

since focus is true damage res

[formal dew]

How do you take a picture of your entire skill tree

is there anything that's kinda must have that I can spend my last 2 points on

[thorn cedar]

gameslantern

[formal dew]

I can't get the whole thing

[cosmic cobalt]

yeah it doesn't work in context of dt

[formal dew]

Best I can do lol

[cosmic cobalt]

since there more special/elite spam

[formal dew]

I have two points left to spend

[cosmic cobalt]

and you don't want to deal zero damage

[formal dew]

These are the weapons I use

[dark pagoda]

i dont understand dd

my uptime is not high

[cosmic cobalt]

violence against blue people

👍

[dark pagoda]

i dont see more than one blue person every 10 seconds tho

[cosmic cobalt]

yeah exactly

just focus on the blue

[dark pagoda]

is perfectionism or the 10s precision better

[cosmic cobalt]

perfectionism

it's pretty easy to stay at 20+ stack during combat

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1486116972977717348/20260325043802_1.jpg?ex=69d2d649&is=69d184c9&hm=73ca46552986e90e81b8aa1f62718de1fb87a578c50c261337939eee3a30e0e4&

[formal dew]

If you kill a blue person another one will spawn almost instantly

Seemed like the best one to use because I don't need empowered psionics

And I have good uptime on scriers anyway

[dark pagoda]

so only 1 blue person at a time or?

im using dd rn

[formal dew]

Yes

[cosmic cobalt]

yes

[dark pagoda]

ic

[formal dew]

they're really easy to spot and kill though

[dark pagoda]

im color blind so blue people and people soul ablaze are very similar

kind of sucks

[cosmic cobalt]

the next blue person is usually right next to the previous one

[formal dew]

cruel fortune is absolutely amazing for disrupt destiny roo

Too*

especially if you hunt headshots or use brain burst

for some reason I get 3 stacks if I use brain burst on an marked enemy

[dark pagoda]

is it possible for psyker to be tanky

i feel very squishy

[verbal thistle]

psyker is one of the tankiest class

[dark pagoda]

what talents do i take to do that

[cosmic cobalt]

yeah

[verbal thistle]

the dr ones

near the center

[formal dew]

Psyker has good toughness perks too

[cosmic cobalt]

also chat focus true damage res or owtw better @verbal thistle

considering i have to choose one or the other

trying to fit pc on melee build

[dark pagoda]

this is my melee psyker

FGS

[crisp ether]

Are you using a staff?

[dark pagoda]

i am not

[crisp ether]

I'd honestly take off Warp Unbound then

[cosmic cobalt]

why movespeed

also bcob

[dark pagoda]

i like move speed

[formal dew]

Empathic Evasion, One With the Warp, Warp Expenditure, etc

[crisp ether]

Movespeed is really useful on FGS tbf

It negates the one big drawback to it

[cosmic cobalt]

you already have movespeed on mettle

[verbal thistle]

"I feel squishy"

[formal dew]

Somewhat similar

[cosmic cobalt]

also you have a lot of stamina on fgs

[dark pagoda]

i genuinely cannot find warp unbound am i stupid

[formal dew]

Except I somewhat build into soulblaze

[crisp ether]

Still feels slow even with mettle

[cosmic cobalt]

idk how you feel fgs is slow

[dark pagoda]

oh the scriers gaze talent

i keep blowing myself up because im bad

[cosmic cobalt]

it is pretty fast for 2h profile

[dark pagoda]

so i feel like i need it

i should probably take it off so i learn

[formal dew]

There's an anti blow up perk for it

[crisp ether]

It's still on the slower end for melee weapons generally

[dark pagoda]

ye thats the one i was told to drop

[formal dew]

Plus you can get a perk that stops you from dying if you kill an elite with the explosion

[cosmic cobalt]

yeah because 2h but you get what i mean

[crisp ether]

I mean, keep it if you feel it's needed for the safety net.

[formal dew]

I run it because it's funny to charge into a horde and suicide bomb their bulwark

[dark pagoda]

that is pretty funny

[crisp ether]

But, I personally would say that point could be put to better use since the only thing you're really using your peril for is the Warp slash

[cosmic cobalt]

this is what i use usually

[dark pagoda]

and with this build i can just cleanly swap out warp unbound for it

[crisp ether]

And blitz

[cosmic cobalt]

you can drop flayer for pc if you want

[dark pagoda]

i feel like im really not very tanky

[crisp ether]

You're missing two of psykers best damage mitigation talents tbf

Well

[dark pagoda]

do i need them

[cosmic cobalt]

it's two of the best damage res talent in the game

[crisp ether]

Well, actually three.

[cosmic cobalt]

focus is only 10%

[dark pagoda]

just a dream and one with the warp?

[crisp ether]

Its the stun immunity

[verbal thistle]

stun immunity with near like 75% uptime in combat with JaD and Gaze

[cosmic cobalt]

I don't get shitted on rager enough ig but on fgs i dont really need it

but that a personal thing

[dark pagoda]

should i get those two

what do i take out for it

[verbal thistle]

I get all 3

personally

[dark pagoda]

im not sure what i take out for it though

[cosmic cobalt]

a lot actually

[dark pagoda]

is empathetic evasion that good

[cosmic cobalt]

uh no

on inferno maybe

you don't need it

[dark pagoda]

i will swap empathic evasion in favor of just a dream

i could drop cruel fortune and swap perfectionism to the 10s stacks

then get one with the warp

just a dream seems like the worst one since you'e going to be at critical peril so often

[formal dew]

I figured out a long screenshot

That's what I've got at the moment

Bolt Pistol and FGS

Or Stub Revolver

Still playing around with the revolver

[dark pagoda]

i think im just bad and should stop playing again

its just pissing me off

everything fun is bad

[formal dew]

unless you play auric or whatever

It honestly doesn't matter

[dark pagoda]

my friend insists we do auric so im just not having any fun and dying constantly

[formal dew]

Then you need to play without that friend lol

that's like me forcing my partner to play nothing but absolute on space marine

[charred pawn]

What are yalls

"Fun" psyker builds

[pale prairie]

Surge surge Scriers is fun

[inland snow]

kill your friend

[pale prairie]

Fire Shriek ek is fun. Gunpsyker with heavy las pistol, FGS and Scriers is fun

[verbal thistle]

I run Dclaw shredder auto with empowered brain burst

with flat walls

[charred pawn]

God I love las pistol on vet

[pale prairie]

Yeah that’s not fun

[pale prairie]

You mean Swiss cheese walls

[zealous wing]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a1005f75-f2d5-4353-ad09-96218a14f7b0/adhd-mode-lol

[sinful olive]

Tell your friend you're actively miserable trying to play on that difficulty. Also, what build are you playing that seems to be struggling?

[main crow]

What’s killing you? Assuming you’re playing flame Psyker.

[zealous wing]

also a big question, are they helping you at all or are they just essentially making you figure it out on your own?

[sinful olive]

^^^

If you want you can join me and friends tonight, they have characters they still need to level so it'll be chill.

[safe jewel]

Is melee psyker w bubble good at havoc 40? Or do i need to be meta slave

[zealous wing]

i'm a big fan of taking people to auric to learn by diving into the deep end, but, without direction its painful

[zealous wing]

bubbleknight is very strong

[safe jewel]

Hell yeah

[zealous wing]

bubble inferno is shit

if inferno, take shriek. if bubble, literally anything else

[safe jewel]

Do i need dueling sword? Or ca use greatsword

[sinful olive]

https://youtu.be/Farmw21I0Ok

[zealous wing]

here i have a gift for you

[safe jewel]

Im using assail and greatsword

Thanks king

[verbal thistle]

you never need to meta slave for anything

[zealous wing]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9ebacfec-9eb8-4f84-b139-4e3cca58dcfb/bubble-knight-melee-havoc-40

[sinful olive]

Just copy that

It's really fun but a much higher skill ceiling than something like flame staff.

[zealous wing]

tbf though inferno does also have a decent skill ceiling, but yeah meleeker is more indepth overall

(for proof of skill ceiling, see randoms running inferno)

[safe jewel]

I can do good in havoc 20s so far but havent been able to try any higher

Played thegame for like 5 minths 2 years ago just picked it back up 2 weeks ago

[sinful olive]

You aren't wrong, but I will say to get the most damage out of bubble knight means taking hard-core advantage of malefic momentum and really good peril management.

[zealous wing]

just take a look at the build above, see if theres things you have questions on why you might want them, if you dont want to copy paste it

questions are good

[safe jewel]

Is it bad to not use malefic momentum? I dont have any warp attacks besides the warp sloce

[sinful olive]

Doing all that while also having to be in melee much more often is quite a bit harder than flamestaff, though playing flamestaff optimally isn't a walk in the park.

[zealous wing]

assail is warp

[safe jewel]

Seriously???

[sinful olive]

Yup

[zealous wing]

rusty video but here

[safe jewel]

Wow ok bet thank you

[zealous wing]

see buff bar for malefic

(the upper one)

[marble crater]

Anything that increases peril is warp damage, so 95% of what psyker does, except for guns and non-special melee attacks

[safe jewel]

❤️

[sinful olive]

Also based and true

Bubble inferno is a crutch, embrace shriekferno

https://tenor.com/view/jerma-has-escaped-gif-3091658452491644159

[zealous wing]

its more that, inferno without shriek is damn near useless. still functional but barely holding on

[cosmic cobalt]

having unlimited target target is still strong

[zealous wing]

but together they both soar like crazy

[marble crater]

You know what is not useless without shriek?

[cosmic cobalt]

idk what you mean by "barely holding on"

plus pc can overcap stack

[zealous wing]

take on a pack of crushers with and without shriek

[cosmic cobalt]

I mean in havoc you can get sn stack easily then switch to melee to stack uncanny

• you get superiority if on force sword

[zealous wing]

15 stacks vs 31 stacks is very noticable

[safe jewel]

Crazy question but would anyone be able to help me get that malleus monstronum penance? Ill cashapp $5

[cosmic cobalt]

15 stacks in theory because pc proc overcap anyway

[zealous wing]

i can help for free

[safe jewel]

Or if anyone doesnt mind joining then leaving when game starts

[cosmic cobalt]

and infinite elite in havoc

[safe jewel]

No ill pay lmao but ill be on in like an hour?

[cosmic cobalt]

i mean maybe if it rot armor

then uh

yeah

[zealous wing]

kek

you will not pay me

[safe jewel]

Okay thank you

Ill dm you when im on?

[zealous wing]

sure

[marble crater]

I won't help, but you can pay me instead, if that makes you happy

[dark pagoda]

im doing fgs psyker now and i just keep dying to chip damage

[marble crater]

Time to learn melee

Dodge, block

[dark pagoda]

i know it

its stuff like gunners

[marble crater]

Time to learn dodge, sliding

[zealous wing]

empathic evasion, reconlas

[marble crater]

Running at a 45° angle

[dark pagoda]

if im changing my entire build to accomodate im just quitting

[zealous wing]

it'd be one talent, and a gun

[dark pagoda]

common theme with this game is that everything you like isn't good

[zealous wing]

unlikely

psyker is insanely strong and versatile

the only bad thing about psyker is smite

[marble crater]

You can play anything you want and unless it's high havoc you will be fine

[zealous wing]

and thats simply because smite is used wrong 99.9% of the time

[zealous wing]

was this something your friends told you?

and, if so, about what

[dark pagoda]

no just an observation

[cosmic cobalt]

the only bad thing about psyker is psyker players

😔

[zealous wing]

true

[zealous wing]

like what? if i may

[ripe obsidian]

It's true. I am the worst

[sinful olive]

Actually take a look at the bubble knight build posted just above. You can move a couple points around to get a stupidly high amount of damage resist, it's insanely comfy if you do. Literally could tank crusher overheads

[cosmic cobalt]

you're not even human

you're amphibians

[dark pagoda]

i don't like bubble

[zealous wing]

dont need bubble

[sinful olive]

^

[dark pagoda]

bubble knight no bubble

[zealous wing]

more like my berpsyker at that point tbh

[sinful olive]

https://tenor.com/view/yankee-spin-hat-laugh-spinning-gif-16824074

[dark pagoda]

we've been at this for like 2 hours and a half and we have 1 auric win that gave me 90 diamantine and i cant progress any of my shit

sob

[zealous wing]

i heavily doubt that it is your fault

[spice aurora]

ill take u in h40 i think u get like 5k diamantine on snday

[dark pagoda]

is the point of auric to make you dislike the game or am i missing something

[spice aurora]

sunday*

[sinful olive]

It's to be difficult

[zealous wing]

its high difficulty content, and gives the same resources plasteel/diamantine as damnation

plus, with expedition patrols spawning in normal missions its not playing nicely

[zealous wing]

i have a little time to kill before helping seal with the penance, if there's a slot maybe i can join and see what's going on

if you want

[dark pagoda]

its ok

i somehow had the highest dmg on our auric win when i have a 57% damage FGS

its like 390 lol

[zealous wing]

thats FGS for ya

its a good weapon

and by good i mean, best melee weapon in the game