psyker-class

[zealous wing]

indeed

[opal holly]

i am a brain burst gigachad

[zealous wing]

meh

it has its place

but no youre a smyker

[silent frigate]

you take smite because you think its op I take smite because I pay tax nodes

[zealous wing]

you're 100% a smyker

[opal holly]

you accuse me and have no evidence

[zealous wing]

you defend and have no evidence

[long saddle]

we're at the marketplace of ideas here

[deft stump]

Naw, I am. Just ask them, they were the ones who said it.

[silent frigate]

its not an accusation if its true

[opal holly]

all of my 40 builds which are better than yours use brain burst

[zealous wing]

this is the imperium of man

you are guilty until proven innocent

smyker

[opal holly]

i would rather be a smyker than an assail chud

thankfully i am neither

[zinc phoenix]

Imperium of Moron

anyone try Stellaris since the latest patch?

[deft stump]

Population of one?

[silent frigate]

stellaris my beloved

[opal holly]

see how they slander and try to debase me

[zinc phoenix]

Sadly they’ve been on a great crusade lately

[silent frigate]

you have no base to begin with

[opal holly]

although i remain at the top

[deft stump]

I see.

[zinc phoenix]

Fam you’re like the guy in goatse, you did it to yourself

[opal holly]

what does that even mean

why is this fossil speaking to me out of turn

[silent frigate]

I mean from the looks of where you are you might be upside down

[zinc phoenix]

You should Google it

[opal holly]

i am not doing that

[zinc phoenix]

You will learn much

[zinc phoenix]

Your eye will open

You will see

[opal holly]

i dont need eyes. i play blindfolded

i am the best

i use echo location

[zinc phoenix]

Fuck I realized I have slightly more grass to deal with

[zealous wing]

oof

such is life

[zinc phoenix]

The other bit on the far side of the sidewalk is my problem too

[zealous wing]

:('

[zinc phoenix]

So my careful sprinkler fiddling… worthless

[zealous wing]

dont throw your back out

[silent frigate]

just get rid of the grass and go all bark

[zealous wing]

[zinc phoenix]

HOA be like “knock knock it’s the lien time”

[opal holly]

simply pay it

[zealous wing]

seriously though, do be careful, back injury be no joke tbf

[zinc phoenix]

In glorious Americastan I do not get to make decisions about my own lawn. It is put before a committee of people who make baker look like a reasonable, intelligent individual

[silent frigate]

I mean you can bring environmentalists to challenge them, grass is water hungry and worthless

[opal holly]

i am a reasonable and intelligent individual

thank you

[hazy jetty]

So, 100% of the time warp unbound is actually possible. Just tested it. Also you can cancel self-detonite by using Scrier's Gaz

[zinc phoenix]

The builder will not care, they want to sell green lawn houses. And until they relinquish control it is up to them

[zealous wing]

yes, but getting that uptime in a mission requires high density, so do practice in missions rather than psykhanium for uptime gauging

[long saddle]

I think you mean either being under the effects of scrier's gaze or under the effects of warp unbound

[silent frigate]

dunno backin cali they tried to pull that shit on my friends house and they got sued to oblivion but I guess its because of cali's water shortage or something

[zealous wing]

im not sure what they're trying to achieve tbh, they never elaborated

[zinc phoenix]

The sprinkler’s attempt on my life has left me scarred and deformed

[silent frigate]

dewit

[hazy jetty]

I just finished quick mission in damnation where I tested it

[opal holly]

who else has a puppy in their lap

[radiant frigate]

hey me too

[opal holly]

none of you cause none of you are as good as me

i am the best psyker

[silent frigate]

yes please can you just get back to your work and be productive then

[opal holly]

no i am on break

[silent frigate]

then take a break in somewhere else

[opal holly]

i leave this place soon and then tertium will be saved

[opal holly]

i have looked at your profile and your opinion now no longer matters to me

[deft stump]

I have a puppo. She is a good girl. See? I'm the first.

[opal holly]

he is the best psyker

[silent frigate]

yeah for that to happen you actually have to kill shit which I am certain that you are incapable of doing so

[opal holly]

quiet

insolent whelp

[deft stump]

Pretty sure the puppo gotta carry their arse somehow.

[silent frigate]

other than maybe getting yourself killed

[opal holly]

silence subtier psyker

[opal holly]

this graph is a display of the skill gap between you and i

i am at the pinnacle

you are at the low curve

[zealous wing]

dunning kruger effect in full effect

[opal holly]

i am the best psyker

[opal holly]

he has me blocked and still responds to me

holy fan

[zealous wing]

ye because its funny

[silent frigate]

only thing that I am fan of is your ignorance

[opal holly]

todays ragebait has been a resounding success

tomorrow i will visit the veteran channel

[zealous wing]

yes i agree, you played yourself well

[silent frigate]

and yes we know it is ragebait

we are laughing our assses in the vc

[deft stump]

Yeah, you are getting krak'd to oblivion there.

[opal holly]

no. i am the best veteran

[silent frigate]

rage bait KEKW

[deft stump]

@buoyant maple Incoming annoyance tomorrow btw.

[opal holly]

announcing my arrival

you are my serf

do a trick

[radiant frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/backflip-cat-backflip-cat-cute-gif-26462939

[opal holly]

astounding

[wind spruce]

Then get rid of the mod?

[hazy jetty]

You can move it aside with "Custom Hud" or just remove mod. Also you can chance size of numbers in mod settings

[cloud folio]

EK with scrier gaze is so hard to use

SG itself is hard

[wind spruce]

Dont overthink it. Just spam L1 until warp unbound is finished then quell.

M1*

[deft stump]

Just quell to zero-30% and charge, it'll be 60%+ by the time ready.

If you are trying to juggle to max stats before doing stuff.

[cloud folio]

will try this

[deft stump]

When max, just go 100% and blast away or so.

[wind spruce]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a15c6eae-92c8-4046-b5dc-c82481c05cb3/takingatraumadump

Loving this heresy

[wraith sphinx]

Soulblaze bell got me stuck at the psykhanium with an infernal surge

[cloud folio]

i know there is a brief window where SG can be infinite

[deft stump]

Is a subnode.

[cloud folio]

infinite i mean by the time sg ends it's back up

[deft stump]

It keeps the buff at where you charged it to though, up to 30 stacks.

[cloud folio]

def shreik is much easier than SG

[deft stump]

Is if you oops, vent, 85%, vent.

[cloud folio]

shreik is so cool tbh

i just LMB spam EK and shreik

effective and better results

[deft stump]

Oh, lmb build?

Then fire, quell, fire quell to 30 then unload hell.

[cloud folio]

i was experimenting with RMB scrier gaze build

[deft stump]

Ah. Then yeah, you quell to 0-30% depending on stacks and charge. Gotta try in psykhanium to get it down.

0 is near 30.

[cloud folio]

for LMB build i can put it around 70 and spam and quell

for RMB it is very tricky

[wind spruce]

RMB generates too much peril to use during scriers

[cloud folio]

ya, should i use shreik

[wind spruce]

You can but mostly utilise warp unbound

[cloud folio]

doesnt feel smooth to play whatsoever

[wind spruce]

Try it with warp charges

You could basically slot EK into the build i just linked

[zinc phoenix]

Don’t see much point in WC on it but otherwise looks fine with some weird but irrelevant picks

[wind spruce]

With warp charges you have a smooth transition from unbound to next scriers literally every time. Its fun, not optimal

What irrelevant picks?

[deft stump]

You could, but it is very hard.

[wind spruce]

You just end up spending too much time quelling

[deft stump]

Yep, is more for lmb builds tbh. RMB prefers vent.

[wind spruce]

I changed it. Feels better with more peril reduction

[cloud folio]

you mean warp siphon

[deft stump]

You can try on lower diffs though.

[deft stump]

Ppl just use different terms for the same thing.

[wind spruce]

Its a really fun cycle. The idea is to keep scriers active for the 20% crit as much as possible without spending too much time quelling

I end up unloading some assails and maybe one trauma blast during warp unbound then popping scriers again

[deft stump]

Could also take the chance to quell for the reduction lul.

[wind spruce]

Ive got battle med

[wind spruce]

Warp siphon used to just be called warp charges

Back in ye olden days

[deft stump]

Ah, but yeah all in on reduction to avoid 100% heh.

[cloud folio]

in the pinned guide between EK shreik and EK scrier, the tree changes from left to right

[wind spruce]

The other version you just let your peril max again like 2s after popping scriers at 100% peril then pop scriers again before warp unbound ends

[cloud folio]

yours is basically left tree with EK scrier

[wind spruce]

It feels chaotic and fun but you dont get almost any benefit from scriers besides warp unbound

[deft stump]

CDR maxxing?

[wind spruce]

Yeah because if you have seers presence + curio CDR + 6 warp charges the cooldown is at like 9s as soon as you pop scriers

And assuming you have psykinetics active the whole time you only need it to be <16s to get scriers back before warp unbound ends every time

[deft stump]

Heh. Yeah. Just not good at knowing when anything is up unless spammy enough.

[wind spruce]

Thats the beauty if it tho karien

Its so reliable

I dont even think about whether scriers will be up before unbound ends

Because it always is

[cloud folio]

there is brief second or 2 it doesnt

i am trying to find sweet spot

[long saddle]

too bad we all died like chumps later

[cloud folio]

i should quell enough when i on scrier gaze

and that would be sweet spot

[wind spruce]

Not with warp siphon aswell lol

[deft stump]

FS balancing.

[wind spruce]

With psykinetics active you recover 15s of cooldown during warp unbound

[cloud folio]

warp siphone has combat ability reduction forgot about that

losing scier gaze power feels bad tho, why do you say that

[wind spruce]

And if you have 3 warp charges + curios + seers scriers will have a 16.65s cd

[cloud folio]

you still get more damage

[wind spruce]

Well all you get to keep is the stacks you generated per second/per headshot

So as much as 30% damage and 30% finesse, but as little as just 3% damage if you max out scriers in a few seconds

You dont get to keep the crit, the base 10% damage, the 10% weakspot damage, the toughness damage reduction or the toughness per second

All of that goes away when you hit 100%

And the crit is imperitive because im running blaze trauma

So i want to be hitting scriers again almost immediately after i hit 100% peril and it ends

[cloud folio]

no VM?

[wind spruce]

Cant take everything

But its a close call with other talents

[west spire]

@inland tundra

[inland tundra]

Thanks

[deft stump]

Is brain ded, push SG for bosses.

Or crushers.

[wind spruce]

What weapons?

[west spire]

Greatsword and laspistol

[deft stump]

Beeg sword las pistol.

I made it cos he uhh... needed the bluntest, tankiest build.

[wind spruce]

Not taking precog is nuts

You'll be pushing 20+ stacks of scriers easy

[deft stump]

Well, he did switch some points out of SG.

Cos he isn't using it enough.

I'll dig out the og later.

[wind spruce]

So you're losing 20-30% finesse and 1% damage per headshot kill

[wind spruce]

Fair

[deft stump]

It's also low peril management to not self goes boom.

[west spire]

I'll use SG for bosses. everything else is handled well with the sword and pistol

[deft stump]

When you watch him pop himself like 7+ deaths in a mission.

[wind spruce]

Just pop scriers everytime its off cd

And dont use any peril gen attacks

Its one of the most broken abilities in the game

[deft stump]

So I made him a simple to use thing he found fun so...

[wind spruce]

love my lil emo cutiepie

[deft stump]

I keep wondering if I should buy the brown hood.

It looks like the Acolyte set outer coat.

[wind spruce]

I cant place anything without seeing it, got a pic?

[deft stump]

The cash shop rotation.

Alt hood for the acolyte set.

Is the brown one that fits the outer coat that is used like a cape.

[deft stump]

You bought it?

[zealous wing]

i got the bundle

do you want preview?

[wind spruce]

Nice

[deft stump]

Ah, I was planning to just get the brown.

Budget too low for the full bundle.

Since using with the acolyte set anyway.

[zealous wing]

it is a match, but it feels weird to use

it it matched the black coat, it'd flow better

but, default white hood from the 1st coat feels more balanced

here's the other two just in case

i'm rocking the vet headpiece rn though

[deft stump]

I know, I tried it in sense but just dunno if I should since it is like $8.

A set is $25~ for me.

2900 set.

[zealous wing]

definitely dont for a "meh" then, if you're not sure

you have time to think on it

[deft stump]

Like, I can buy 10 games for $25.

They are pretty small things but still.

Thus bleah.

[plucky flax]

[zealous wing]

hi agent

[plucky flax]

Oh hai there

I have not played since Jan

[wind spruce]

Agent has arrived to buy everyone cosmetics

What a guy

[patent steeple]

idk why, but I am starting to like using Brittleness VB on my FGS meleeker build as a tool for getting out of crusher/scab rager blobs (or any other bad situations), even if I need to take battle med or the -10% peril gen node at the bottom of middle tree for more comfortably getting SG stacks...

[deft stump]

He is?

@plucky flax Pay good enough to sponsor shinies now?

[wind spruce]

Yeah its a solid sidearm and you dont really need any investment for it other than peril management

[plucky flax]

https://tenor.com/view/arabian-cat-arab-cat-desert-desert-cat-gif-2052435309915639736

[plucky flax]

Yes

[wind spruce]

Even if it means you hit warp unbound early thats no big deal

[deft stump]

Yay!

[wooden sand]

Warp?

Warpstone?

[long saddle]

bridge jumpscare

[empty robin]

Sooo, havent been playing Psyker for a while.

But is there any reason to play with shriek over gaze anymore?

[wind spruce]

Yeah because more fire is good

[empty robin]

its just 6 stacks at max, depending on if you have 100% peril to begin with

Gaze literally gives you immunity to going boom for 20 seconds

jfc it isnt fair

[wind spruce]

Nah mang, its six stacks on top of whatever is already there

So instead of being at 16 (the cap for inferno staff) you're now at 22

And then perilous just keeps on adding +3 from there

And the whole world burns down

But anyway its a pointless discussion bc the better combat ability depends on what weapon you're using

[empty robin]

.

fair enough

[empty robin]

That seems like a good combo honestly

[wind spruce]

It is

Especially when you can shriek every ~10s when things get heated

[empty robin]

Ive been playing a build with gaze and Smite lately

Its stupid easy, but also very effective

Its a literal 25 second shutdown for a wave

with like 5s of downtime

[wind spruce]

Yeah thats why people hate it so much

Its not fun for anyone but the newbie psyker gaping at all the enemies standing around

[radiant frigate]

smyker talk? in the psyker channel? it's more likely than you think

[spice aurora]

i always have smite on my builds in h40, it is equipped

[zealous wing]

nurgle flies!?!?!?!?

[summer prairie]

It's just an expeditions thing

[orchid shadow]

Holy, did they change up the difficulty curve for aurics? I know they added new spawn placements, but there are now enemies right out outside the dropship, right up to the first elevator. And on just Hi-Intensity, too.

[frail oar]

There's a few maps that ha e spawns where they didn't before. Not sure if its intentional cos on gloriana youre killing hordes right next to swagger.

[orchid shadow]

I like it. 😛

I hope they don't change it.

[ripe obsidian]

Goof.

[frail oar]

Yea me too. Although I will say its nice on higher difficulty to have breather moments to appreciate how cool the environments are

[ripe obsidian]

I'm fairly confident this happened due to the changes with elite spawns in events.

[frail oar]

Same. Although I thought those were havoc specific no?

[ripe obsidian]

I thought so

But who knows

It could be an undocumented change, or it could be a bug

Having a... voidblast?

[wind spruce]

Oooh i just had a look at the build bonanza and im pleased to see the build i came up with today for trauma, my non-quirky variant is essentially exactly what ainz runs

Lmao what the heck

[ripe obsidian]

Tell me, Irosk, is the change to Souldrinker/In Fire Reborn noticeable?

[wind spruce]

Weird that we were both typing about that

[ripe obsidian]

I'm in your head.

[wind spruce]

There was changes? Honestly i didnt even look at the psyker changes in-depth

[ripe obsidian]

I'm in the process of making a few changes to the bonanza. Nothing too major. Mostly tweaking builds based on my experience since making them

[wind spruce]

Until today i hadn't been inspired to play it since scum came out

[ripe obsidian]

I have some small details in the bonanza as well. Patch notes section

TL;DR: IFR and Souldrinker should proc more often and more reliably

[wind spruce]

Oh nice

It did seem to have a higher % on uptime than i used to see

[woeful brook]

what would be the dump state on staff for psyker?

[wind spruce]

And i was bathing in warp charges from IFR

WS SG trauma really is dope

(Im as smart as ainz hehehehhe)

[ripe obsidian]

Voidstrike: Blast Radius
The rest: Warp Res

[ripe obsidian]

Interesting. I'll need to turn Uptime back on and test it some more. I've not played a lot of Psyker this week

Mostly Scum and Arby

[unreal yew]

amazing game. Enter an expedition team with 1 wound already, no salvage and 2 hp

[wind spruce]

Scum is bae now

Took some real adjusting going back to how psyker moves

[buoyant maple]

do I look like I vaguely care

[rich spindle]

The heck did they do

[radiant frigate]

something about the activation condition

[ripe obsidian]

made the code cleaner

should work better

[ripe obsidian]

melee scum is a blender

[ripe obsidian]

yes. :D

[wind spruce]

Insanity. Ive been playing adrenaline after stanning ChD since release since i can now get sample collector without branching. You can pile on so, SO many damage buffs

Almost +100% damage, +75% strength, finesse, rending. All contributing to HV. Idk why they thought scum needed another free 15% melee damage node lmao

[zealous wing]

he's banned so dw about it

[pale prairie]

?

[zealous wing]

the ragebaiter is gone

[pale prairie]

Ahhhhh

https://tenor.com/view/which-one-theboys-jensen-ackles-soldier-boy-gif-10571329906460431263

[wind spruce]

Pygex with the builds he had in the atheneum

I will never get over Battery Gunner being described as the "meta" bistol build for psyker

[pale prairie]

Hahahahahahhahahahah

[wind spruce]

And only recommending one point in the original DD

[pale prairie]

Hey he had some decent advice. His advice on weapons helped me figure out my havoc 1.0 40 voidstrike bubble build

But yeah the discord has been more….accurate? Helpful at least

[radiant frigate]

what will we do without the best psyker

[wind spruce]

Bro 6 warp charges hits the dreg gunner head shot OSBP, its better than DD

[wind spruce]

His guide was pioneering in the darktide community and generally accurate

[radiant frigate]

i can never justify warp charges without going full wizza

[buoyant maple]

it's ok I hav wack builds too

[wind spruce]

His more subjective takes were hot garbage

[pale prairie]

It was prone to the inaccuracies of a single source vs the constant discussion of discord

[radiant frigate]

and obviously i am always right (trust)

[wind spruce]

He'd update and give credit if someone found an inaccuracy

[radiant frigate]

dunning-kruger in full effect let's go 😤

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/elf-non-sense-cat-nonsense-meme-anime-gif-25776994

[buoyant maple]

it's ok I have hot takes too

[zealous wing]

5 havoc toughness for psyker comes to mind

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/segundo-sol-novela-remy-vladimir-brichta-chocado-gif-12304506

[pale prairie]

Yep he did his best for sure

[radiant frigate]

all my takes are hot

[pale prairie]

Like I said I used it for some stuff

[buoyant maple]

yea but if u ask me seriously I'd say 25~30 would prob do to justify psyker's current dps

[radiant frigate]

what about scum

[zealous wing]

scum needs the same treatment imo

[wind spruce]

Me too but mine are all correct

[buoyant maple]

50 or less

[wind spruce]

Funny how that works

[buoyant maple]

tbh I think both psyker and hive scum are in the "need 50 or less" category of toughness, to justify their dps

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/bloodelf-warcraft-napoleon-dynamite-gif-19082330

[radiant frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/world-of-warcraft-warcraft-blood-elf-high-elf-void-elf-gif-13877665694461569486

[zealous wing]

ah world of warcraft

[pale prairie]

What a funny community

[wind spruce]

Oh god its turning into zealot chat

[zealous wing]

lowkey gave me flashbacks

i played WoW when i was like, 9

[radiant frigate]

"flashbacks" i still suffer weekly

[wind spruce]

I miss wow

[pale prairie]

At some point it’s a personal choice

[wind spruce]

Irosk was the top rated hunter on Jubei'thos horde side

[radiant frigate]

at least i am not expected to do more than log in, top dps and then post logs

[wind spruce]

(We had like no pvp community rip)

[buoyant maple]

https://klipy.com/gifs/hanabi-hsr

[pale prairie]

Don’t forget owning the noobs

[radiant frigate]

no i do not engage in pvp as it is degenerate

[pale prairie]

I mean who could possibly beat an evil orc?

[wind spruce]

You take that back

[radiant frigate]

No.

plus the classes i like have this tendency to never be any good

in pvp anyway

[wind spruce]

No one. I paid like $30 to gender change my character for a smaller hit box when I was 16 and that was a big deal.

And because im a dumb fuck i thought it would be funny to also change my name to Femrosk

[zealous wing]

meanwhile i get full on stories of my spouse's days playing WoW, like when he sent his green Trex after some poor soul for like 30 minutes

[wind spruce]

It just meant no one recognised me

[radiant frigate]

there was also this one incident where a guy sent me a stack of hard wood and pearl milk tea via mail with a note attached saying "i was thinking about you"

i do not recommend mmos

[wind spruce]

This was me as a hunter but for pve too

[pale prairie]

Hmmmmmm

Is this sexual harassment?

[radiant frigate]

Yes

[pale prairie]

In my online game?

Noooooooooo

[wind spruce]

I hope he chose those things because they're suggestive

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/cynthia-erivo-shocked-shock-jumping-back-walking-back-gif-12035888169669287630

[radiant frigate]

Yes

there is no other explanation

[pale prairie]

I would have assumed if it was like soft wood and jello

Not cool but what I would expect from WOW

[wind spruce]

Bb dont spit out your tea when you see my hardwood

Wouldnt want to give you a pearl necklace

Somethingsomethingmilk

[radiant frigate]

there was also this

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/focused-infexious-giants-gaming-serious-look-concentrating-gif-24318977

Being a gamer is hard

Associated with this shit

[wind spruce]

To be fair this is also something women experience irl

[pale prairie]

Oh for sure

[wind spruce]

Back when irl was a thing anyway

[radiant frigate]

it's always creepy old dudes too

[pale prairie]

The creepy young ones are online doing it

[radiant frigate]

with age comes confidence

[pale prairie]

The old guys want to do it the “old fashioned way”

[radiant frigate]

thus the young creep tries his luck online

and ruins my taste for interacting with people

[pale prairie]

Good thing you are our strongest elf

I know the secret words to engage kat’s final form

[radiant frigate]

yeah so i just tell them to fuck off and move on

like that recent incident i vented about in the other chat

[pale prairie]

“Force Greatsword is a dumpster weapon only slightly better than relic blade which is also garbage tier. Only losers think melee is viable in Darktide.”

[radiant frigate]

so true bestie

[wind spruce]

Lol i just noticed it says katistaken in your bio

Pertinant

[pale prairie]

You think she would say yes if I shoot my shot?

[radiant frigate]

the clue is in the name

[pale prairie]

These bios are so obtuse

[wind spruce]

Definitely

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-driving-serious-cat-driving-focus-driving-gif-11924413609777581867

[wind spruce]

Hold up hold up

You got your piece of cheese ready?!?

[pale prairie]

Wait what????

[radiant frigate]

no.. not the piece of cheese...

[pale prairie]

I am unfamiliar with this internet lore

[pale prairie]

Ah yes

The classic

https://tenor.com/view/cheese-food-gif-5113834195819307982

[radiant frigate]

i do like a good cheese

brb gonna go get a slice of cheese

[pale prairie]

A MUNSTER?

That’s a German cheese right?

[radiant frigate]

emmentaler

[pale prairie]

I like to watch the amazing race and there was once a challenge to identify like 20 cheeses by their taste and visuals

Insanity

[wind spruce]

Try not to get too fascinated

[radiant frigate]

too late

[wind spruce]

Shiiiet

[radiant frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/goatplaybanjo-fromage-cat-chat-gif-11452302806162585278

[wraith sphinx]

Certified gamer classic

I just got called the t slur a bunch instead

[radiant frigate]

i am not certain this is an improvement

[pale prairie]

Eh mine was t bagging in counterstrike and the n word slurs in cod lobbies

Humanity has depths

[wraith sphinx]

Oh no it was the opposite. A few people did hit me with unsolicited marriage offers and such too as well

[radiant frigate]

oh wow

my condolences

[wraith sphinx]

thank 🙂‍↕️

[pale prairie]

Ooof all of that sounds horrible.

[zinc phoenix]

I made a female character when I played wow briefly back when it came out. Normal looking, I don’t go in for the ho aesthetic.

Within the first hour I’d been sexually harassed multiple times including people asking for ERP which I had to look up what the hell that was

[radiant frigate]

that's because it is

[radiant frigate]

but don't you worry, this isn't exclusive to wow

[zinc phoenix]

I ended up quitting wow in part because I was tired of getting my god damn leg humped and in part because it was a vapid boring game

[ripe obsidian]

kill him

[zinc phoenix]

“Wow you fetched!”

I’m not even a woman 😞

[ripe obsidian]

oh, I missed it

[radiant frigate]

unfortunately i could not, it was an unfavorable class matchup at the time

[zinc phoenix]

They’re so thirsty they were humping my hairy ass man leg because I happened to play a woman in a vidya

Like, utterly wild

[radiant frigate]

Yes

[zinc phoenix]

I been making the same character for over thirty years. I made her for a MUD back in the early 90s and I always make her as my character in games out of habit. WoW was the first game where I had that kind of stuff happen so I hold it in especially low regard

[radiant frigate]

valid

ye olde "character that gets dragged kicking and screaming through the multiverse"

[verbal thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/foiled-cat-funny-cat-meme-cute-gif-4770784610413068186

[wind spruce]

You telling me a game people routinely commit 30-40 scheduled hours to a week attracts oddballs? Heresy

(Pun intended but inconsequental)

[radiant frigate]

[zinc phoenix]

I just wanted to run around clubbing things with me wizard

[verbal thistle]

What an oddball...

[radiant frigate]

frostbolt

[zinc phoenix]

I tend to prefer fire stuff, it’s flamey

But not flamethrowers those are basic

[radiant frigate]

there is some hilarity to the statement "crafting professions in FF have a more complicated rotation than WoW mages"

(they did)

[wind spruce]

My rotation in BC was literally just hitting number 1 over and over

Because of hunter auto shot timing

[radiant frigate]

frostbolt
frosbol
frobo
frb
f

oh nvm

was steady shot a thing back then

or was it just aimed shot

[wind spruce]

I think steady came out that expansion

So you had to time it right to not interrupt autoshot or something

[radiant frigate]

a classic

main abilities: autoattack and also pet autoattack

rest in accordance with the above

[wind spruce]

Hey fk u we had arcans shot

[radiant frigate]

you also had serpent sting but you were not allowed to press it

[wind spruce]

Why not? I cant remember that one

[radiant frigate]

debuff limit :)

huge dps loss to knock off sunder

but perhaps that was a vanilla special

[wind spruce]

Ah yes

Those were special times for me

I remember when i was graduating from noob lil kid to the God of Gaming i am now having sticky notes all around my screen saying "USE HUNTER'S MARK" and the like

[radiant frigate]

powerful

[wind spruce]

I loved that about wow though

Here's 40 abilities! Go have fun!

Shift and control keybinds coming out my ass

[radiant frigate]

i refuse to bind more than two bars

[wind spruce]

How i pressed ctrl 5 and controlled my character idk

[wind spruce]

Uncommitted

[pale prairie]

Ugh

[radiant frigate]

i simply click the things i rarely need

[pale prairie]

Ability rotation meta was never my thing

[radiant frigate]

OR i swap them in on demand

like for example i have moved the button that kills me off the bar

avert harm do be suicidal in 25m

[wind spruce]

I had keybinds set up buffing all my individual teammates (in 3s) aswell as mouseover targets

So atleast double for a lot of abilities

[radiant frigate]

oof

[wind spruce]

It was about 60 iirc

[radiant frigate]

perhaps another reason i never got into the pvp

[patent steeple]

you guys talking about WoW?

[radiant frigate]

keybind bloat with all the extremely niche abilities

unfortunately yes

[patent steeple]

I played it without a subscription when I was around 13-15 years old iirc...

[wind spruce]

I loved it. I was never a crazy mouse control cod lord or 250 apm starcrafter but id reoptimize my keybinds for massive short term pain and marginal long term gain any day

[patent steeple]

I myself never liked the "dying means your gear can break" thing, especially because I played poorly and made poor decisions by just picking the coolest-looking class and race combos...

[wind spruce]

Tbf it was really just a gold cost to repair it

[radiant frigate]

oh you wanted to play a human wizard? enjoy doing less dps

LOVELY DESIGN

[wind spruce]

Hahahahhahahahaa

[patent steeple]

wait, what?

[wind spruce]

Omg race passives/abilities

Fucking humans (i think) had a FREE TRINKET

WHAT THE FUCK

[radiant frigate]

i played void elf dk in shadowlands
my racial is worthless for melee in pvp

it's like a little fakeout movement ability

[wind spruce]

Orc hunter so i had a good ability for pve but was just ok for pvp

[radiant frigate]

it does not help with gapclosing
i can send it off in one direction and run in the other to get distance

if i throw it toward people they can simply walk away

3min cd btw

[wind spruce]

Lmaooo

Seriously tho

A free fucking trinket

[radiant frigate]

dumbest racial in pvp aye

[patent steeple]

I at one point wanted to make a Goblin Shaman because the goblins had cool-looking mechanical totem designs, but gave up because Cataclysm goblin prologue was a necessity for free-to-play Goblin characters back then...

[wind spruce]

Trinket was legit one of your most powerful cds

[radiant frigate]

"hey here's a free trinket, go crazy with some insane pve trinket and enjoy blowing people up in 0.5s"

WHO DESIGNED THIS

[wind spruce]

Haha my mate was so emotionally attached to his shamans warstomp

Kinda cute tbh

"Im gonna warstomp!"

I get it bro you're a healer with no cc, it IS exciting!

[radiant frigate]

so anyway WoW is the reason i hate mages

fuck them wizzas

[wind spruce]

Says the force greatsword enjoyer

[radiant frigate]

exactly, force greatsword enjoyer

not purgatus force staff enjoyer

not smite enjoyer

big sword enjoyer

anyway mages in pvp were a war crime

[wind spruce]

Do you reckon purgatus enjoyers have something diagnosable

Surely

[radiant frigate]

-> ranged class
-> you would think melee classes will win in melee since you get fried at range
-> wrong, closing into melee just makes the mages deadlier (you are now susceptible to frost nova and a subsequent shatter combo in which you just fucking die)

[patent steeple]

ohhh, I had so much pain in pve as an Orc Warrior... Everything could attack me immediately after I attacked it because no ranged capabilities (of course)

[radiant frigate]

or alternatively, you do manage to close in, and they use one of 4 get-out-of-jail-free cards

and you are back to suffering

[wind spruce]

My favourite hunter ability was the one that threw you backwards but i was so clutch at jumping and throwing myself forward

[radiant frigate]

so-called "disengage" when you do it in the other direction

now you just be engaging

[wind spruce]

Its ok the fucking minimum range hunters had meant any competent player could just pillarhump away from me

[radiant frigate]

and then they removed that an expansion later

[wind spruce]

Yeppppp

Druids were the absolute bane of my existence

Just shapeshift out of every slow and live off one lifebloom every 30s yeah ok

[alpine jackal]

savant psyker if they had brainrot: most kirkifying

[zealous mango]

Okay why deleting the shader cache from the game files, just gave me about near the double frames

I was having some weird drops in the previous mission and i remember some talk in the server about the cache in the files, did that and gave me a big boost

[buoyant maple]

Fatshark and their arcane optimization

Were u GPU or CPU bottleneck

[zealous mango]

Not sure what was exactly

Maybe GPU related because my frame gen was having weird spikes between the environment whatever I looked

[buoyant maple]

I might try it?

[zealous mango]

The cache clear seems to have helped a lot now

[buoyant maple]

What’s the shader cache file path u used

[zealous mango]

From appdata Roaming

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/shader-cache/96820/3 from the reply below

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/frieren-die-spell-die-spell-frieren-die-spell-gif-4302457335154234045

[radiant frigate]

i will make an exception because she looks very polite

[verbal thistle]

https://imgur.com/0uz3Qdi

look at this mage

[radiant frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/kitty-review-kitty-cat-review-gif-20973771

[marble crater]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-heart-eyes-gif-24817214

Reminder that these eyes are "murder mode"

[stiff wraith]

Interested!

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/speed-kill-that-boy-speed-kill-that-boy-ishowspeed-kys-gif-10749022239239578206

[patent steeple]

is this meant to be proof that you can hear pictures? (idk what the guy is saying in this gif, both because idk who he is and because I am so out of the loop in the topic of toxic youtubers and especially streamers that idk any memes related to them...)

[marble crater]

As far as I know he isn't toxic, just very loud and likes to bark, otherwise actually a good guy

[patent steeple]

well, toxics tend to be very loud and like to bark as well afaik, so that's 2/3...

[jovial juniper]

Yeah

But Speed is a good person
Don't worry about it

[marble crater]

Toxic to me means people who are actually assholes and for example shock their dog live on stream, then lie about it

[patent steeple]

ohhh, yeah I heard of that, but forgor...

was it one of the arbi VAs who did that, or someone who just played as an arbi on stream? idr the specifics anymore

[marble crater]

I don't think that person had anything to do with Darktide

[radiant frigate]

it was someone who has a dog and then arbites were used to meme on it

zero relation

[patent steeple]

of course. my bad for taking first impressions from the meme community, I suppose...

anyways, should I use crit chance perk on my FGS (I also have shred and unstable), or should I go Unyielding or flak? (my second perk is cara)

[ripe obsidian]

unyielding

[radiant frigate]

cara unyielding because anything lesser already gets bullied

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/waow-based-wow-thinking-doodle-gif-12262272166408784207

[spice aurora]

also ran off edge at beginning and left game in h40 xD

[ripe obsidian]

an unconfident strike

[ripe obsidian]

did ye get yer H40 clearance?

[radiant frigate]

what the flop is slow and steady

i have never heard of this blessing

[jovial juniper]

Really?

It's a pretty comfy blessing

[spice aurora]

yea xD

[jovial juniper]

It's "heavy, the toughness" blessing

[patent steeple]

or, as I would call it "Thrust: Toughness Edition"

[jovial juniper]

That's definitely more accurate than my description

[rough gale]

what blessings for inferno staff except Warp Nexus

[marble crater]

Blaze Away

[rough gale]

And perks?+

[marble crater]

Flak and then either Crit Chance/Unyielding as most popular, I guess Maniac works too but less useful, I use Flak and Unyielding

[pale prairie]

Check out Six’s build bonanza in the pins

[fast prawn]

is the electrokinetic staff still worthless?

[jovial juniper]

Never was worthless

[ripe obsidian]

<@&735928989146939404> spam post

Rotten armor is returned

[rich spindle]

whats out

[ripe obsidian]

Not sure

[rich spindle]

orang is out :(

[jovial juniper]

The will to live

[ripe obsidian]

I am not sure if I would rather have rot or orange

So we have rot + 21st + blight + stimms

[zinc phoenix]

I understand now: havoc is a trap set for the ultrasweats. You are all locked eternally in the C&B torture mode and so their new fun mode has tension because only bads play it 😂

And because they’ve given you so much of that torture you can’t enjoy anything else because numb

[rich spindle]

the tree rework was the nail in the coffin for auric maelstroms

[ripe obsidian]

Seems like the time of rending shriek is upon us

And the time to avoid tox scum teammates who just stand in the back and plink with their needler

[rich spindle]

you cant really do that anymore, interested to see how scum fares

[ripe obsidian]

You can certainly try to do it

[radiant frigate]

slaaneshmaxxing

[ripe obsidian]

https://youtube.com/shorts/XPlMOPJX-D0?si=5-WXsx-1XRbQoZR3

[pale prairie]

I hate this. I hate everything about this.

[ripe obsidian]

Stimm supply basically nullifies blight

21st and stimms aren't too bad

Rotten armor is pretty significant

[pale prairie]

Yeah I know I just don’t want to bring stim supply

Blight still sucks

[ripe obsidian]

I'll bring stimm supply and bomb everything

[pale prairie]

It’s the sum of its parts Six

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/the-fountain-hugh-jackman-brightlight-enlightenment-gif-8910758368833822505

[ripe obsidian]

I can't do math

What is sum

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/smokey-and-the-bandit-ein-ausgekochtes-schlitzohr-jackie-gleason-sheriff-buford-t-justice-of-portague-county-1977-gif-10914278667810531086

[ripe obsidian]

I didn't learn this math in school

[zealous wing]

are you available

or @pale prairie ?

[pale prairie]

Doing some chores then I could be

[zealous wing]

about how long? luck is on a time crunch

he has time for one more attempt in the case its successful, havoc

[ripe obsidian]

I can be shortly

What are we doing

[zealous wing]

havoc

29, 21st blight archivum

[ripe obsidian]

Okey

I will be stimm scumm

[pale prairie]

Getting on now

[zealous wing]

first come first serve, will play with whoever after

krieger in, six i will happily play with you another time

[ripe obsidian]

I thought you had two spots, alas

[zealous wing]

ah sorry, no

[thin knoll]

Is infernus lazgun and soul blaze gunker a thing?

[rich spindle]

Yeah

[ripe obsidian]

that sounds... difficult to execute well

[thin knoll]

Well if any sparkeads got a build, I'm interested. Presumably without shriek

[rich spindle]

Just use scriers gaze, perilous combustion, and disrupt destiny

[thin knoll]

Sounds about right

[pale prairie]

i can run some sweat

[vague rain]

soundtrack for a casual stroll through Tertium as a psyker https://echoveil-records.bandcamp.com/album/arnold-sch-nbergs-streichquartett-nr-4-op-37-utterly-dismantled?search_item_id%3D1980448959%26search_item_type%3Da%26search_match_part%3D%253F%26search_page_id%3D5252992945%26search_page_no%3D0%26search_rank%3D1

[ripe obsidian]

why the fuck is meleeker able to do this much damage without a combat ability

this was with double shield

not sure how much of the ranged damage was staff vs FGS special

[ripe obsidian]

I still needs expedition points for the event, if'n ya wanna do that

[pale prairie]

finishing and auric mael with hex

[ripe obsidian]

okeydokey kriegerchokey

weird that shield damage is counted as bleed, but at least it makes it easy to quantify

seems like shield is averaging ~8% of my total damage. Not bad, honestly.

[viscid matrix]

Looks like all 4 of you were primarily melee

[ripe obsidian]

The vet was more ranged + blitz

but otherwise yes

[rich spindle]

Fgs 😂

[ripe obsidian]

FGS is an absurd weapon

[jovial juniper]

[ripe obsidian]

I will say, though, that I saw several dogs, several nets, at least one sniper shot, and a bunch of other specials ignore the wall

It's not super reliable

gotta update the guide to rate flat shield a little better

[pale prairie]

i am afraid

and ready

[ashen edge]

I think the wall should be a bit taller to cover the enemy fire from elevated position better

[ripe obsidian]

A little taller and a little lower would be good

so many gunners shot me under the wall

[fathom adder]

Make it a half bubble

[granite plaza]

Can anyone recommend a good build wanna make a psyker once I finish my vet build!

[long saddle]

there are tons and tons, you can find many in the pinned guide

[wind spruce]

There's a leveling build in there too

[icy breach]

Maybe slighty bent inwards? To simulate a semi-dome wall

🤔

[ashen edge]

Yeah, exactly like that

[wooden sand]

Helldivers 2 community is dumb

Oh wait wrong chat to complain

[dusk timber]

https://tenor.com/view/walter-white-breaking-bad-so-true-so-true-meme-so-true-bestie-gif-23723487

[ashen edge]

Wrong community, but the sentence stand true

[radiant mesa]

You bet your sweet bippy I am

[stable edge]

hi. any good with soulblaze burn effect or its useless? talking about auric difficuty

i cant understand while spread it with passives when it have no dmg or something if i am not missing something

[marble crater]

Soulblaze is very good, there are several builds for it in the Build Bonanza in the pinned messages here

[stable edge]

thx i will look

[cosmic cobalt]

soulblaze stack exponentially

at low stack its dogshit

[fresh pike]

So that's why my attempt at a "meta" psyker didn't work right

[zealous wing]

soulblaze is VERY strong

auric maelstrom

[zealous wing]

see above img

[fresh pike]

Think imma stick with the normal missions

[radiant frigate]

how many crushy bois was that

[cosmic cobalt]

sometimes i forgot that blaze sword push 2 count as weakspot hit

[wind spruce]

Does anyone know what the delay is between trauma secondary firing and starting to charge again if you don't use a cancel?

Save me looking at frames lol

[dusk timber]

3 years

[ripe obsidian]

It shouldn't and I hate that it does

[thorn cedar]

its like 800ms

in my brain

but no i dont have the actual number

[ripe obsidian]

I have a list of meta builds in the guide as well. Havoc meta, at least; outside of Havoc almost everything works

[zealous wing]

feels about the same tbh

spam vs tap quell i mean

[fresh pike]

Nah nvm I'll stick to what I have now

[wind spruce]

Qq is noticeably quicker

[zealous wing]

also feels the same tbh

[ripe obsidian]

I can maybe find it

[thorn cedar]

again this is just in my head but i read it as
no cancel - 800ms
quell cancel - 500ms
QQ - literally instant if your imputs are perfect, only the minimal charge threshhold holds it back

[wind spruce]

Read in the code?

[thorn cedar]

nah

just vibes from doing it for a long ass time

[wind spruce]

Noice

[thorn cedar]

i havent done the quell in a while though

i concede that that one i am the least certain of

[radiant frigate]

feelscraft wins again

[deft stump]

Feels like a blast a sec assuming quick blasts.

[thorn cedar]

you also cant actually fire off trauma at like, '1%' or whatever

it has to charge at least a teeny tiny amount so your charge time bar and having warp flurry will factor

[zealous wing]

would there even be any benefit to qq trauma over tap quell trauma lol

[thorn cedar]

yea

[zealous wing]

still have to quell

[thorn cedar]

if you remember rat

[zealous wing]

no idea

[ripe obsidian]

Appears to be 600ms

[thorn cedar]

he got really really good at playing melee psyker and basically spam blasting voidblast with QQ at min charge

took the concept to 11

[zealous wing]

again tho what is the benefit

[radiant frigate]

rat was certainly an interesting character

[ripe obsidian]

Chain_time from action_trigger_explosion to action_charge is t = 0.6

[thorn cedar]

strong wide stagger, aoe, soulblaze

[zealous wing]

it feels like mere milliseconds are trimmed off, for minimal gain if any

[deft stump]

Yeah, that's faster. I meant when on my blaze nexus one.

[thorn cedar]

100~ms is a lot of ms

[zealous wing]

idk, just feels dumb in psyk

[thorn cedar]

if we are talking literally just 100ms then assuming perfect inputs from both of us i'd be shooting off my 11th blast while you're on your 10th

[deft stump]

I mean... add another 450 ms.

[radiant frigate]

10% more blasrtng..

[thorn cedar]

we love blastmaxxing

[deft stump]

300 ping and reaction times. XD

[ripe obsidian]

Chain_time from action_trigger_explosion to action_charge is t = 0.6

Repeating myself, but forgot to tag

[zealous wing]

and, when do you quell

[wind spruce]

holy shit thats long

[thorn cedar]

ideally i never do because soublaze is cracked and battle meditaiton exists

otherwise you just sometimes do quell instead

[radiant frigate]

we do not quell
we simply keep casting
and if we explode, we simply die

just as the emperor intended

[zealous wing]

so then you do it at low peril

which would explain the need for more blasting

[thorn cedar]

no you do it whenever you are not at 95% basically

[wind spruce]

i love rat

[zealous wing]

also, macros exist, so i heavily presume anyone doing qq the entire match is using such because carpal tunnel exists

[thorn cedar]

lul

nah im just BUILT DIFFERENT

(ADHD)

been QQing since VT2 for fucken movetech

ur aint shit if you cant punch the air so hard and repeatedly that you gain momentum through sigmar's faith alone

[zealous wing]

like that psyker doing FGS bistol bleed the entire match "im not macroing i swear!" ***firing fgs slash in extremely regular intervals, into the void, hitting absolutely nothing, as they fall down the ledge

whoever plays as dr bees

[thorn cedar]

bees nuts

[zealous wing]

they were extremely annoying about it. very selfish player, not far off a smyker

[radiant frigate]

HGH movetech?

[zealous wing]

"i hope youre not going to do that the entire match"
"oh i will"
"greaat..."
left after the game because i still out damaged them on normal melee psyker

[thorn cedar]

ye

[radiant frigate]

insane

[wind spruce]

@zealous wing you can feasibly save 300 ms per cast

cast time with flurry is <1s

[zealous wing]

i dont use flurry

[wind spruce]

lol

dumb af response

[zealous wing]

if is soulblaze, it should be nexus

[wind spruce]

thats not the point

its 1.3 w/o flurry

so you could go from 1.8s total to 1.5s

thats huge

[thorn cedar]

i never know how to squeeze that in

[zealous wing]

so, carpal tunnel, or tap quell for consistent output that reliably got me through an h40 very comfortably. i have my choice

[wind spruce]

[zealous wing]

lol

but im also one of those insane people who use more than minimum casts

i run VB on vibes

[wind spruce]

so it would be even more useful for u then

[zealous wing]

not even close

ill pass, 100%

ive got knife/assail switching if i want to tap Q a lot, trauma is for cozy

[pale prairie]

Quell canceling surge surge was the shit. But those days are over now

I can’t be bothered to do the weapon swap one

[ripe obsidian]

I did that once.

Once.

[pale prairie]

I think you did it more than once…

https://tenor.com/view/mass-effect-garrus-wait-gif-23713036

[ripe obsidian]

Did I?

I only remember trying it once on Gloriana

[narrow herald]

The bisexual god is here

🙏🏻

[pale prairie]

Yeah took you a couple runs to figure it out.

You weren’t happy until you felt you had “done it right”

[pale prairie]

Wait he’s bisexual?

[narrow herald]

Yes

❤️

Mass Effect was one of the very few based games from the early 2000s

[pale prairie]

Hmmmmmmmmmm

I could have sworn he was specifically a female romance

[narrow herald]

Trying AI

[pale prairie]

Mods are pretty based

[narrow herald]

Smh my head

[pale prairie]

Classic misdirection deflection smh

[narrow herald]

AI is homophobic confirmed

Time to lay waste to some clankers

[pale prairie]

Wait shake my head my head?

How many heads do you have?

[narrow herald]

2 😼

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/don't-answer-that-it's-fucking-rhetorical-adam-bourke-gen-v-i'm-just-making-a-point-i-don't-really-expect-an-answer-gif-5840943994164857652

[ripe obsidian]

I shall trust your memory

[pale prairie]

It was late you were exhausted and you didn’t like your damage being negligible the first attempt so you fiddled and ended up with highest the next run

Then you said “this is disgusting and I never want to do it again”

[ripe obsidian]

That sounds like me, yeah

[pale prairie]

It was very Six of you yes

[radiant frigate]

shaking my smh

[dusk timber]

shaking smh my head

[pale prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/elf-nonsense-elf-frieren-frieren-beyond-journey's-end-sousou-no-frieren-gif-2308403050531304831

[ripe obsidian]

I am curious, now, what the general perception of me is.

[radiant frigate]

rated 6/6

[pale prairie]

Competent, knowledgeable, plagued by insomnia and pubs

[dusk timber]

frog

[pale prairie]

Yes and frog

[radiant frigate]

really big frogs

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer-lizardmen-gif-12155346

[pale prairie]

Fancy frogs

Wait DEAD FROGS?!?

[ripe obsidian]

poor frogs

an auric overhead (b/c true solo is broken for psykhanium and I can't test it) does 95 toughness damage and 25 health damage to my oggy if I am mid-dodge when it hits me

[long wharf]

is there currently a bug with expeditions not counting for class map completions?

[ripe obsidian]

Possibly. I am not aware of one. I know that auric expeditions count for shit like ASS even if you extract immediately upon arriving

[cosmic cobalt]

creature spawner got updated

[rich spindle]

I ate an overhead on my toughness in h32

[cosmic cobalt]

so you can still test it in auric

[cosmic cobalt]

new ass cheese dropped

[wraith sphinx]

Not to my knowledge, I have finally gotten around to winning 100 missions as arbites on expeditions maps

[verbal thistle]

Sal also ate the food that makes you go to sleep last night

[rich spindle]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-sleepy-sleepy-head-sleepy-dog-puppy-gif-16600586666132165731

[verbal thistle]

You

[ripe obsidian]

sickening

yeah, 212 toughness and 300 hp becomes 117 and 275 in auric if hit during dodge linger. 95 toughness and 25 HP. How goofy.

[rich spindle]

N that’s before the 246744 conditional dr talents

[ripe obsidian]

Korrekt

[rough gale]

Someone recommanded me bonanza builds

Mentioned this is some pdf

Does anyone know where to find it?

[verbal thistle]

Pins

[rough gale]

Thank you!

[verbal thistle]

@spice aurora reminds me of your pfp

[spice aurora]

HARVEST MOUSE da best mouse

[little pine]

Ah Smite was the issue, okay I'll copy this build, thank you for sharing!

[cosmic cobalt]

man i used to be a 25 dd hater

shit is good

[pale prairie]

Why would you hate it?

[cosmic cobalt]

i wasnt good enough

[pale prairie]

Yeah same

But I know that’s me not the talent

[jovial juniper]

#notatrueperfectionist

[pale prairie]

Nah that’s a different one

[ripe obsidian]

25 DD is strong, just requires an extra point invested

to cite bruh moment's guide:

[frail oar]

Was gonna say feels like you need the extra stacks on weakspots

[thorn cedar]

not as much as you used to, but you really should

[pale prairie]

Oh come on you don’t believe the scores of Psykers who tell you they keep 25 DD stacks all the time without perfectionism?

[ripe obsidian]

I do not

[pale prairie]

Same

[ripe obsidian]

An extra point investment is worth it for the damage increase, imo, just hard to pick what to give up

[pale prairie]

Gonna make me rethink my tree again aren’t you

Bastard

[ripe obsidian]

Depends on what your tree is

tbh I mostly use the 10 second duration node because I don't wanna give other stuff up on meleeker

[pale prairie]

I just looked and I value tankiness among other things too much.

[ripe obsidian]

Neither is a bad pick

[radiant frigate]

25 stacks sounds mildly silly

[thorn cedar]

uhhhhh buhhhhh buhhhh but killing is the best defense hurrr

[radiant frigate]

i like my DR talents because i am bad at game so i am keeping them

[wraith sphinx]

🤨 you can't declare both 1) and 2) to be equally potentially inconsistent. But consistency wise the list is sorted in ascending order

LI+CF is just a waste though

[pale prairie]

Agreed. Or buy me that little extra time to get off the revive

[cosmic cobalt]

23+ stack is like half my combat uptime

otherwise its usually about 15+

25 dd isn't that hard to upkeep the more i play with it

[pale prairie]

You using perfectionism?

[cosmic cobalt]

its pretty much alway more value than 10s stack

yeah

[pale prairie]

Any chance you got some uptime pictures?

[cosmic cobalt]

i just turned off my pc holdon

[cosmic cobalt]

ok i lied it was more like 40+

[pale prairie]

26%? Am I reading that right?

[cosmic cobalt]

26% at 25 stack

[pale prairie]

Oh you said 23+

[cosmic cobalt]

22+ is 50% uptime

roughly

but you usally stay above 15 pretty easily

[pale prairie]

Yeah I think that’s the core of why it is debatable but good on ya for getting it that high

Oh yeah nice heavy las pistol makes sense yeah

[cosmic cobalt]

im using ainz build

just replace 10% dr for quietude

anyway perfectionism is better than the other one

but this is like sampled from 2 games

[pale prairie]

Depends on the build I still think and enemy density

Like guns are great for grabbing stacks

Like the giants event had very few targets for fucking DD was very frustrating

Appreciate you for backing up your assertions with data

It’s why psyker chat is best chat

[cosmic cobalt]

it kinda fall off if there inferno psyker though

literally second pic

[little pine]

Oh heck yeah that played so well thank you. the knife is so good for running fast, feels like play Zealot. I took +3 wounds across 3 curios to get practice in. and I'll have to try in in higher difficulties where there are more elites to pop off on.

[cosmic cobalt]

but that to be expected

[pale prairie]

Hmmmm yeah good point tough when someone is murdering all the targets

[ripe obsidian]

how do you have 55% channeled force uptime with a laspistol?

[thorn cedar]

pretty sure that icon is wrong

i think its actually BCoB or some shit

[ripe obsidian]

that would make more sense

[cosmic cobalt]

I'm just that good at the game

wink wink

also yeah

[thorn cedar]

he pulls the trigger extra hard

[cosmic cobalt]

actually no I don't have bcob

I can't be bothered to open the game up again

[pale prairie]

Was gonna say if he had BcOB I would expect higher sg stacks

[thorn cedar]

yea i already stanned perfectionism basically since it came out since i always viewed it as worth it so long as you're consistently above 15 stacks or at least above whatever your highest average stacks would be with 15 max stacks to start

[cosmic cobalt]

I pop scrier to be literally invincible

[thorn cedar]

now theyve made its target selection much more generous/logical and stacks refresh on so many different damage/stagger ticks that maintaining high stacks is kind of a joke

[ripe obsidian]

Whenever I use Perfectionism w/o Cruel Fortune, I struggle to upkeep stacks, even when I am playing well.

[thorn cedar]

oh its way too big a pain in the ass

you can maintain your stacks very easily

actually getting them to go UP is a whole other game

[pale prairie]

Same but I tend to be more of a frontliner for the squad when I play meleeker instead of hanging back to take shots at marked target

[thorn cedar]

plus if you're using giganto AoE attacks, you blow up an entire group of bruisers with one voidblast let's say, you only get the one stack earned even though all those bruisers could have been valid targets

[pale prairie]

I really wish they expand the targets eligible or at least give us two options at a time.

[thorn cedar]

nah

i think this is fine