#psyker-class

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wraith sphinx
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Also have you guys noticed some of the unmarked TR storage containers that have alarms also have buttons to disable said alarms?

zinc phoenix
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yeah

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they want us to think more about interactions

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"you set off the alarm" isnt just narrative blather

wraith sphinx
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Little do they know I do not think

zinc phoenix
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having a billion different queues is gonna kill this mode

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idc which one i queue into i just want a team lol

patent steeple
wraith sphinx
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Adventure mode
Maelstrom
Mortis Trials
Expedition
Tick which of these you want, select the difficulty and queue

patent steeple
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hmmm... idk why I have problems with blowing up nowadays whenever I play shield psyker...

wraith sphinx
patent steeple
wraith sphinx
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I only use it on my melee psyker honestly, the only build where I don't use any warp powers except for fgs special

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(And where stacking tankiness is actually desireable on account of having to close distance with all kinds of enemies)

patent steeple
wraith sphinx
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I use laspistol

patent steeple
wraith sphinx
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Personally I am an anticipation advocate regardless of build. But you should especially use it with FGS to compensate for its lacking mobility

patent steeple
# wraith sphinx I use all three.

ok, because my build cannot afford all three... maybe if I take off Warp Expenditure, BCoB or Souldrinker I could afford to take all three...?

wraith sphinx
patent steeple
wraith sphinx
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I see

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Yeah I'd say try taking off souldrinker

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I don't have soulblaze talents at all on my meleeker build

hoary mauve
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Now I'm wondering what build he used, because zoomies sound fun 😆

wraith sphinx
thorn cedar
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We used to have active community managers but people suck.

wraith sphinx
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Yeaaa

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😔

frail oar
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I miss strawhat

deft stump
zinc phoenix
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Be warned it is mondo wacky

wind spruce
deft stump
wind spruce
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Old mettle + old souldrinker + soulstealer just generating a billion toughness per second

deft stump
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Heh.

radiant frigate
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so have all the decodes been replaced with the new thingies?

wraith sphinx
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They are by far the most present on all the expedition mode minigames tho

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One place has the moving selector minigame but I forgot which

deft stump
zinc phoenix
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I like em, matching minigame makes me think

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Way more fun than the annoying QTE of the original one

radiant frigate
wraith sphinx
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I can't believe people actually use that mod

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that's some scrub shit

zinc phoenix
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Modding is haram 🙏

zealous wing
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the only case for it is ping

mellow gorge
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idk man some people the help if my time hitting QP is anything to go by

deft stump
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I just know half the ppl have it so...

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No point trying to if they can be done faster.

primal crag
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hello siblings, was wondering if soulfire talents are worth taking and are there some which worth taking?

zealous wing
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perilous, souldrinker, wildfire, shriek with creeping flames, warp siphon with in fire reborn, etc

jovial juniper
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And I mean always

zealous wing
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seldom

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its only worth taking any fire talents if you plan to take all of them

jovial juniper
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I said always

wraith sphinx
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noob crutch talent for wimpy wormy wizardlets

rich spindle
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Every talent is a noob crutch talent

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Real gamers play with 0 talents allocated

verbal thistle
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I saw a talent once

fluid knot
wraith sphinx
wraith sphinx
fluid knot
jovial juniper
verbal thistle
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anyone wanna true duo H40?

ripe obsidian
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I can maybe try at some point. Bruh moment and did a false duo of H40 last night. Our teammates had 20+ deaths between them

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He was gun scum, I was melee scum

ripe obsidian
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Wildfire is good

young cliff
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Question: should peril give you toughness Regen debuff when on high peril? So on high peril you can get lots of damage buffs but if you want to be safe you play on low peril to not have your toughness not nerfed when you want to Regain it.

ripe obsidian
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It's an idea that has been bandied around before

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I'd endorse it.

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I mean, Scum has a talent that's +TDR at high stamina and +damage at low stamina

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So there is a similar mechanic in the game

jovial juniper
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They should rework peril and make it so every psyker share the same peril pool

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That means a Scriers Gaze psyker ruins the fun for all other Psykers

young cliff
young cliff
sturdy reef
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is there another scoreboard issue

ripe obsidian
young cliff
storm rose
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is Warp Res always dumpstat on BFGS? any situation where Defences is the dump?

patent steeple
crisp ether
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But there's a fix already released for that

verbal thistle
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@rich spindle

jovial juniper
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Man

pale prairie
pale prairie
young cliff
dire wharf
pale prairie
young cliff
young cliff
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Psyker is arguably one of the strongest classes because it's staff and melee damage is quite high

zealous wing
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not as strong as boss delete zealot

pale prairie
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At higher levels I see powerful Psykers and absolute dog shit ones

young cliff
zealous wing
pale prairie
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Just like with every class

pale prairie
young cliff
pale prairie
young cliff
pale prairie
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A stun at a threshold is dangerous and can be played around. Getting your toughness just shanked feels less interesting and more punishing

young cliff
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Making it a toughness regen debuff makes you want to keep peril low in some cases

pale prairie
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You then Make a bunch of talents less useful

young cliff
pale prairie
young cliff
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Just like explosion already do

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It's redundant

pale prairie
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Yeah this whole discussion is but you want more danger or I guess to punish a class you feel is OP?

young cliff
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Feel? It is

pale prairie
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Lmao

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Okay

zealous wing
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hive scum can outdamage an inferno shriek psyker, just an fyi

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and, fatshark buffed it

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so

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i dont think they know what a nerf is, or how to even try balancing anything

young cliff
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Also, don't we all agree that peril is just an ammo resource that is infinite? Most of the time you don't have any risk attached to having no ammo cost

zealous wing
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arby also

young cliff
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Arby arguably isn't that busted, is much more close to Zealot, which I feel is the most balanced class so far

zealous wing
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the key part being, skilled players make the most out of what a class can do, making them seem more broken. a less skilled player makes them seem weak

pale prairie
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Bruh they just gave alligator stance a strength buff

young cliff
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It's dog is just auto aid to hunt specials which are THE biggest treat

zealous wing
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six got a nice tasty 2.5mil dmg h40 game

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on gun arby

pale prairie
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Before the alligator buff

young cliff
pale prairie
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Lmao

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What?!?

zealous wing
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LMAO

young cliff
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Keep yourself alive isn't that useful when you can cc the enemies to kill them faster

zealous wing
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me facetanking all bursters, pushing them around corners away from my team in tight hallways:

young cliff
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That's the point

zealous wing
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can you push a burster back 3 meters and around a corner?

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i didnt know this

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teach me your secrets

young cliff
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Double push at close range, you push them twice and with a dodge backwards you are back enough to not be clipped by the 3rd burster

pale prairie
zealous wing
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besides, i'd already found a way to get dmg boost from using casti, it actually giving a damage boost is extra brain off tasty

young cliff
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20% is a big bonus

pale prairie
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It is a lot but there is still a lot of good shit

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I am saying it was good BEFORE the patch

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70% Dr?

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On top of your other talents?

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Hello?

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Also toughness replenish

young cliff
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Before was good, but you can do all it did by not being dumb because defense isn't something Arby lacks

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Honestly 60% Dr would be fine still

pale prairie
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Arby having defense is what made more on top crazy. You became immune for a few seconds

young cliff
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Yeah ,but what Arby needed was means to kill faster, castigator buff gave it that

pale prairie
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Sure so now it’s op

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Let’s take abites dog away

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Make it more interesting to play

young cliff
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Probably, but it wasn't that crazy before, and probably now is above Zealot because it's blitzes are quite good

pale prairie
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I dunno I feel like arbites has been above zealot a while

young cliff
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Zealot only needs better blitzes to be quite solid all around to not only lean in knifes

zealous wing
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a bit late but i finally found it so here enjoy its no longer in context

young cliff
pale prairie
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I haven’t seen a zealot top 3 damage in a while

young cliff
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2 ragers mind you, not that many

pale prairie
young cliff
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Just like DND wizards

pale prairie
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Alright well I got other things to do today have a good one

jovial juniper
young cliff
pale prairie
pale prairie
young cliff
jovial juniper
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🧑‍🚀 gun

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Not taking dog is griefing anyways

pale prairie
pale prairie
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True

young cliff
jovial juniper
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Path, the vet guide writer, states that psyker would be balanced it his toughness was nerfed from 125 to 50

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So yeah

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Nerf psyker toughness

jovial juniper
pale prairie
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Trolling

jovial juniper
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Let's see who's true psyker and who's crutching

zealous wing
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he genuinely wants us to have 5 toughness in havoc kek

pale prairie
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Make warp rider go up to 30% damage increase but also reduce toughness regen by 40 %

young cliff
pale prairie
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there

pale prairie
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Now beginner Psykers learning the game don’t get fucking destroyed

pale prairie
young cliff
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Psyker fighting the warp, lore accurate experience

pale prairie
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He has literally pitched a change to Psyker that would mean zero engagement with managing peril bar

jovial juniper
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Based

young cliff
pale prairie
pale prairie
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Like Mr E

young cliff
# pale prairie Like Mr E

Mr E put folding shovels in the same tier as Picks for ogryn melee weapons, Mr E is a TERRIBLE source of knowledge

sturdy reef
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there are classes that benefit from low stam

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psyker can benefit from high peril

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its fine

jovial juniper
sturdy reef
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idrc if warp rider gets nerfed but

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the principle behind it isnt unique to psyker

pale prairie
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He has shout anyway

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Doesn’t need it

sturdy reef
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ES goated

young cliff
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At least ObeseFish made shout CD longer, it's something

sturdy reef
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just kill all the specials and ranged in H40

young cliff
sturdy reef
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the cleave node so nice

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for helbore las

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killing specials thru hordes feels much better

jovial juniper
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Helby is now a horde clearing weapon

sturdy reef
verbal thistle
sturdy reef
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classic

verbal thistle
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Lost our H40 duo

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to that

young cliff
ripe obsidian
sturdy reef
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seemed like from behind the spawn

verbal thistle
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v

verbal thistle
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insta jump too

ripe obsidian
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Zoom says the doggo

young cliff
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Dogo becomes speed

ripe obsidian
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I love the tiny camera wiggle as Ainz is like, "what just happened"

verbal thistle
rich spindle
ripe obsidian
verbal thistle
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fren corner

jovial juniper
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Wouldn't happen if you had a better melee

pale prairie
sweet sigil
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anyone have a melee psyker build?

pale prairie
sweet sigil
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tyty mine was reset when i came back

pale prairie
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np

ripe obsidian
ripe obsidian
pale prairie
little pine
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MARTYRDOM PSYKER Can someone link the build I'm not able to find it and my own build is a weird fusion of different things but I'm not able to stop auto quell from ruining good opportunities

zealous wing
radiant frigate
zealous wing
radiant frigate
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i believeth nay

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i did not see your toughness tick up on explosion

zealous wing
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it does not

ripe obsidian
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It is >90° in March

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This state sucks

rich spindle
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who made my globe warm

ripe obsidian
ripe obsidian
rich spindle
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who revolutionized my industry

jovial juniper
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The French

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Actually

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The Bri'ish

tardy pumice
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what's psyker's 2nd best build? (after flamer, context is h40)

radiant frigate
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probably trauma

zealous wing
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blazing trauma got me through my first h40 of last season, at 5am when six begged me for a slot fill kekw

ripe obsidian
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I should probably review that meta build list.

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why do I keep getting these on my secondary psyker

tardy pumice
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what is trauma?

ripe obsidian
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voidblast

dire wharf
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Arizona?

ripe obsidian
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Oh, I need to remake the rending trauma build in the guide, too.

ripe obsidian
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Moved here for work ~1 year ago

dire wharf
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I seen Phoenix is already hitting multiple days over 100 this year

ripe obsidian
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That's awful

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I want to go back to the northeast

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Back to snow and rain and gloomy weather

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I realized I was being a doofus. Was using CDR curios on a stimm supply Scum build... which has a cooldown based on my stimm, not my actual combat ability.

dire wharf
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I need some sun

ripe obsidian
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Rain and fog are my favorite weathers

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If it rained all the time, I would be happy

tardy pumice
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would you guys say that melee scum is at the same level of flamer psyker atm?

ripe obsidian
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Yes.

pale prairie
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alright six here i go trying an all stamina curio build

ripe obsidian
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Are you a blender?

pale prairie
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or i am dead

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no middle ground

ripe obsidian
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Melee scum is super mobile, super high damage, very safe (especially with Street Tough)

pale prairie
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10% toughness and 5% health lmao

ripe obsidian
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I'm doing a few tweaks to the build guide.

pale prairie
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5% allows me to survive an overhead lmao

ripe obsidian
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What difficulty?

pale prairie
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just auric to start lmao

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okay blender suuuuuuuuuper fun

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the stuttering

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i guess i need frame gen?

deft stump
pale prairie
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14900k

storm rose
dire wharf
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Only thing better than rain and fog is rain and fog and frogs

ripe obsidian
storm rose
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let me check 🤔

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he also dumps Defence instead of Warp Res on the sword

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hmm yeah Warp Expenditure is a way more reliable way to regain toughness

radiant frigate
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i think i hate everything about this build

storm rose
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i think he uses it in havoc 40 somehow lol

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its pretty good on the dog expedition

ripe obsidian
radiant frigate
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dog.. expedition..

ripe obsidian
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I think, in most cases, the difference between a "good" build and a "bad" build is maybe 10% effectiveness in a player of equal skill.

radiant frigate
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fatshark, take notes for a new havoc modifier
hunting grounds
but full-size carapace dogs and not the dinky 300 health oneshottables

ripe obsidian
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So long as it isn't a troll build, I mean

ripe obsidian
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Can someone review my havoc meta section in the guide and tell me if I am missing something and make sure it all makes sense?

rich spindle
radiant frigate
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Yes

rich spindle
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lacking toughness regen nodes too

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weird build, dunno the reasoning behind it

radiant frigate
rich spindle
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looks like hes relying on KD deflector to survive

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instead of standard slide spam + toughness regen

loud girder
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he's relying on him being cracked asf

rich spindle
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i cant think of a genuine benefit

rich spindle
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and add a disclaimer that you need to know how to keep peril high and pump out efficient shrieks

ripe obsidian
pale prairie
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*Git Gud

  • King SIx
versed hedge
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I want to confirm, is everyone's interface like this? The countdown is outside the box... Is it my mod that made an error

rich spindle
ripe obsidian
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This is also fair.

rich spindle
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if im in a saw trap with a bomb in my neck and I have to wina game of darktide or it explodes im picking inferno shriek over inferno bubble 😂

ripe obsidian
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So am I. Inferno + Bubble is not great. It's why I listed meta and strongest builds separately

rich spindle
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its kinda hard to have a real meta in a pve game

storm rose
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how do i fix it than

rich spindle
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no iron sharpening iron

storm rose
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it works kinda well but i wouldnt mind if it was better lol

rich spindle
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take warp expenditure at the top for sure

storm rose
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yeah thats the first thing i did

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instead of Mettle

rich spindle
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I would keep mettle personally

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most people dont run deflector on the fgs too, so you can give a different blessing a try

storm rose
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Purloin Providence seems counter intuitive but its kinda amazing

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cause im at nearly 100% heat all the time, as soon as it procs and im at 95% i activate the sword's special again

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tbh i should i rarely use it vs. gunners

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the build has 2 walls, and i can dodge slide

rich spindle
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yeah

storm rose
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Unstable Power? 🤔

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or Precognition

rich spindle
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unstable power is generally better but you can run precog if that seems interesting to you

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the fgs is busted even without blessings

storm rose
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how do i keep Mettle though

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what do i dorp\

rich spindle
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some talents I think aren't worth it for this build: by crack and bone, purloin, immaterial focus

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the quell talents seem fairly worthless to me

storm rose
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true 🤔

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Immaterial Focus seems good

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oh wait

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the at-critical-peril part only applies the stun part

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the rest of the node is perma 10% DR

rich spindle
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10% is ok but not really that much

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id rather spend the point on more damage

storm rose
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ok i remove those 3 nodes, grab Mettle and have 2 more spare points 🤔

rich spindle
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I like anticipation with the fgs

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the extra dodge is helpful

storm rose
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yeah i liked that one last time i used it

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1 last point 🤔

zealous wing
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perfect timing if you dont have it

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free damage on crit

rich spindle
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you have good toughness regen now so youre good to experiment as you see fit really

storm rose
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Just A Dream might be ok but probably not cause im trying to sit at 100% peril all time

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Malefic Momentum might be cool

rich spindle
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mm is very strong

zealous wing
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if its running assail, absolutely

storm rose
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im assuming BFGS melee coutns as melee and the moon sword projectile is a Warp attack

rich spindle
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yeah

pale prairie
storm rose
zealous wing
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i feel shriek inferno is more safe than bubble inferno tbh

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bubble means no "oh shit im exploding" out

storm rose
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ill probably drop 1 of the gunner resists from curio too

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and im not entirely sure about the wound curio at all

radiant frigate
zealous wing
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not sure why walls, but if you choose scriers later, you can go warp unbound upgrade and spam FGS specials that way, but it will work for now, just tap quell

zealous wing
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i exploded last havoc Sitgryn

rich spindle
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wound curio not a great choice

zealous wing
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got distracted by the hive scum trying to make a trick parkour jump and he fucking died kekw

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i could not see for like 2 minutes because of the tears stellar_wheeze

dire wharf
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How often do these events happen in game?

zealous wing
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what events?

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the event events?

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every month or two

dire wharf
radiant frigate
strong gulch
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ye

radiant frigate
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@clad

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😭

pale prairie
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Ooof can’t even tag him

lament jay
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How do I add percentages? I currently have 40% 20% 10% 10% for peril reduction and i dont know what that actually adds up to

ripe obsidian
lament jay
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So uh

ripe obsidian
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So it should be 0.6 * 0.8 * 0.9 * 0.9

lament jay
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Whats the math to add the percentages

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My instance is 0.4 0.2 0.1 0.1

ripe obsidian
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No

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It isn't

lament jay
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?

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What you mean no?

ripe obsidian
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It’s what I said because it's a reduction

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1 - 0.4 = 0.6

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And so on

lament jay
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Ohhh ok

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Ill do that then

zealous wing
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oh look the nerd is at it again

ripe obsidian
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It's me

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The nerd

verbal thistle
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guys

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dont try to parry with bolt pistol

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it will get you killed

spice aurora
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devils pistol mk 3

verbal thistle
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gave his head a little bash

woven sentinel
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Wall shield is funnn now

young cliff
stray shoal
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Do the odds to roll a perfect stat weapon go up when you’re higher level or something? I can’t roll anything good on my fresh arbites

pale prairie
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Yes the overall “power” of the weapon is higher at higher levels (the power number is all the stats added together)

stray shoal
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Thank you!

ripe obsidian
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...is flat shield shock damage counted as bleed or something in the scoreboard?

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@spice aurora I need to show you the gloriana skip properly at some point

spice aurora
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i have gloriana for my 39 xD

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AND I JUST LOGGED IN

tiny cove
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Puncture assail is fixed right?

maiden notch
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Anyone here, especially Six or Krieger

ripe obsidian
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I can test.

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absolutely not fixed

deft stump
ripe obsidian
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what

deft stump
ripe obsidian
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about 2 seconds before I posted the video

deft stump
ripe obsidian
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I was busy losing havoc games D:

deft stump
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I went to bed at like 5 am. Monster doesn't drop me as well as Celsius.

ripe obsidian
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Expeditions are neat if the team moves quickly.

deft stump
ripe obsidian
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I just play Arby and run where I want to go

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I can handle most of it solo anyway

deft stump
ripe obsidian
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Yeah, needing 2 people for some event stuff sucks

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I think the ideal gameplay loop is to have 2 groups of 2 clearing half the stuff each

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Then meet at the end

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But you need coordination for that

deft stump
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GL with that.

ripe obsidian
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I mean, it is unlikely with randoms

deft stump
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My best teammate is voltaic mines.

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That tells you everything.

ripe obsidian
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Doggo > mines

deft stump
ripe obsidian
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Oh

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I have not tried it

deft stump
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It's shock mines but better.

ripe obsidian
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Neat

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I have been buying the explosives

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Bombing run seems pretty awful

deft stump
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You just want void shield+voltaic mines for escape. Hilariously good combo.

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I guess the fire barrel is also good, but keeping it from popping early is a nightmare.

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Been playing trauma and purga. Purga mostly if gamma. Nightmare if I get dropped into gamma on rend trauma.

ripe obsidian
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I have not seen void shield

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I've only played Arby on this game mode

deft stump
ripe obsidian
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Funky

deft stump
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The items all have no FF.

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So, feel free to just nuke an area where team is.

ripe obsidian
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This was an H40 loss during the assassination target end event. It was a frustrating loss.

deft stump
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Personally, mod grenades is hilarious on vet.

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Grenade bistol vet.

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Is frags but better.

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As in, oggy frag.

ripe obsidian
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I have been debating playing shovel + db shotgun weapon spec vet

deft stump
ripe obsidian
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I like shovel for horde clear

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Which I know shotgun does

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But

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Shovel goes bonk

deft stump
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I like knoife, helped with some kite clutches.

ripe obsidian
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Oof, I tried to kite clutch on my Psyker game posted above, but I didn't expect the M21st guys to keep up with me

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After playing so much scum the other day

deft stump
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Heh. Gasgasgas.

ripe obsidian
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I got bullied

deft stump
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I know the feel.

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Rampaging 21st are undying mass.

ripe obsidian
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Yup

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And they must've been gas buffed or something, because whenever I tried to dodge or slide away, they just kept slapping me

deft stump
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Maybe.

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I heard FS broke some mods as well.

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Had 3 ppl constantly crashing.

ripe obsidian
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I have been crashing a lot

deft stump
ripe obsidian
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There is

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"Beyond the Hive - Mods with issues

(From previous patch)

Crashes that occur before anything loads might be related to the lua-heap commandline argument. Ensure it's only 2048"

cloud folio
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there is one psyker like this, do you know what staff or blessings they using

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they did so much damage and my kill feed for the entir ematch is like this

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i thought eletrokinetic staff with RMB spam, but it does not do that much multiple target damage

ripe obsidian
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Without more information, I cannot say for certain. Lots of Psyker builds can go crazy

deft stump
#

Was funny when Vect went fuck it and turned mods off.

ripe obsidian
#

Yes, lots of Psyker builds can do this

deft stump
#

Could also be a godly meleeker.

ripe obsidian
#

Or LMB EK, or Trauma + Shriek/SG

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Or even Voidstrike in Auric

long saddle
#

the psyker pose looks like EK

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  • the electricity in the background
cloud folio
long saddle
#

you can kill ranged stuff p fast with enough peril and SG boost on top of it

cloud folio
ripe obsidian
#

Voidstrike in Auric is strong. Voidstrike in Havoc is not.

cloud folio
#

that shoots balls

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this is lightning spam

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at first i thought smite build then realised they are all dead so quickly

long saddle
#

well you have your answer then in EK RMB

ripe obsidian
cloud folio
#

i have EK build that i spam LMB

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never even use RMB

long saddle
#

yeah it's popular, surge surge

cloud folio
long saddle
#

scrier's gaze

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full on crit and peril maxing

deft stump
cloud folio
#

auric maelstorm

deft stump
#

Then it's just SG EK.

cloud folio
#

SG?

deft stump
#

Gaze.

cloud folio
#

ahh

ripe obsidian
cloud folio
#

i am just using shreik

long saddle
#

ye ofc

cloud folio
#

is SG powerful with EK

long saddle
#

you can run SG with anything but inferno really

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staves, guns

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and melee ofc

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SG gives a lot of extra crit which EK likes

ripe obsidian
#

SG is best on Blazing Trauma and LMB EK for staff builds.

long saddle
#

I mean I wouldn't run voidstrike on anything but SG personally

ripe obsidian
#

I use Voidstrike + Shriek + FGS in Auric

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Today I was screwing around with bruh moment's flat shield FGS build.

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That was fun

wraith sphinx
#

Nice

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Go my magic bowling balls

ripe obsidian
#

Got 1 win and several losses, but the build performs well. Playing scum has been beneficial for my movement overall

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And I found another LMB Inferno user I need to haunt

deft stump
wraith sphinx
#

My preferred VS loadout is still SG, smite and knife

long saddle
#

you missed the guy last week or so that claimed he cooked hard with it

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and wouldn't take the advice that shriek was better

deft stump
#

I accidentally brought a meleeker build with inferno+deimos.

wraith sphinx
#

That's not too bad I guess

long saddle
#

I once tried an lmb spam inferno on a meleeker SG build

deft stump
#

Was making a build for someone, forgot to swap.

long saddle
#

it was not worth it

deft stump
#

Used one erased by FS build slot.

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Didn't check weapons.

ripe obsidian
#

LMB Inferno makes me say >:(

deft stump
#

Hilarity ensures when I panic vent and realised I'm on Gaze.

wraith sphinx
#

🐖 ☁️

long saddle
#

that's why I can never run shields on some random build, I know I will just overload and try to drop a shield to save myself

ripe obsidian
#

I had an LMB Inferno user earlier. Did 800k damage to my meleeker 1.6m

long saddle
#

what is the appeal of lmb inferno, the stagger?

wraith sphinx
#

Yea

pale prairie
#

Really feels like you are being productive

deft stump
#

I can work with it.

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Just need to be more careful.

long saddle
#

I should prob try the new wide shields tho

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just not sure with what

pale prairie
#

They are goofy good in choke points

long saddle
#

ye im thinking running it in expeditions a bit

deft stump
ripe obsidian
deft stump
#

Unless it's like the two room wait where you can wall the doors.

ripe obsidian
#

So people pick ES and Inferno and spam LMB doing their best Smyker cosplay

long saddle
#

yeah figured empyric shock but surely that can't come close to RMB output

ripe obsidian
#

It doesn't

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Not even remotely

deft stump
pale prairie
#

Such a dumb staff to do it with too

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“Give me your shortest range LMB barkeep! And make it snappy!”

ripe obsidian
#

Empyric Shock has value if all enemies in range are already at 15+ stacks and holding RMB is no longer as useful.

long saddle
#

I did see an lmb inferno user in expeditions, they prob had to justify bringing inferno and running around in the open

ripe obsidian
pale prairie
#

Six can you imagine if psykinetics aura worked on Allie’s again? Scum would be crazy

deft stump
ripe obsidian
#

And RMB still has good stagger against trash as well as suppression

pale prairie
pale prairie
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Yeah

radiant frigate
#

call down the full force of the warp

pale prairie
#

Beautifully so

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Ogryn taunt being constant

long saddle
#

I always found tac awareness on vet more broken with like shout

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I remember facing a hound horde and shouted like 3 times in 10 seconds

ripe obsidian
#

Old PA was that

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But for the whole team

long saddle
#

ye I just don't have as strong of a memory of one situation

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maybe some havoc 1.0 games with triple bubble

ripe obsidian
#

Anyway, new wide shields are less reliable than before

deft stump
pale prairie
ripe obsidian
#

In one game I had 3 dogs, multiple bursters, 2 trappers, and several gunners just shoot through the shield

long saddle
#

ye I started my havoc stint late in 1.0

ripe obsidian
#

I still think bubble is gonna be meta

pale prairie
#

Oh for sure

ripe obsidian
#

But maybe wall shield is gonna see more use outside of niche meleeker builds

pale prairie
#

Omni directional, TDR, and toughness regen

deft stump
pale prairie
#

Also it stops goddamn grenades

ripe obsidian
#

Omnidirectional is the biggest thing

deft stump
#

100 salvage but...

ripe obsidian
#

Shocking specials is nice and all, but it's not reliable enough

long saddle
#

you don't have to think at all with bubble

pale prairie
#

Yes

ripe obsidian
#

I think wall is potentially more effective if the user is good (I am not)

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Bubble just has a higher chance to be useful

deft stump
#

Jank?

ripe obsidian
#

That's why I specified potentially

deft stump
#

Cos it didn't stop a mutie before.

ripe obsidian
#

Wall is so unreliable

deft stump
#

And the wall is blocking the only entrance.

pale prairie
ripe obsidian
#

Nah

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Bruh moment uses it

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It's in the guide

pale prairie
#

Yeah I meant the Six version

ripe obsidian
#

His gameslantern link is quite detailed

pale prairie
#

Weren’t you trying it in havoc?

ripe obsidian
#

Yes

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I won a game, and lost like 3. It wasn't the fault of the build

long saddle
#

that just sounds like normal distribution for a meta build as well at times lol

ripe obsidian
#

You aren't wrong

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I probably could have clutched it on Scum or Arby, but I am not sure I could've on Psyker. Maybe on a Shriek build to get the horde off of me, or Trauma. Psyker is just harder to clutch on.

cloud folio
long saddle
#

blazing spirit + warp nexus on voidblast (trauma)

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trauma was the old name for voidblast

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surge was the old name for EK

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but both of the old ones sound cooler so build names often go by them

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no potential confusion between voidblast and voidstrike as well

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void is such a bad naming convention

wraith sphinx
deft stump
#

I can get $1.50 a can beers.

dense wolf
#

can i get a beer

wind spruce
#

i keep breaking the warp unbound timer, both on regular buff bar and two different mods

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it cant compute one expiring while another is active

summer prairie
#

mercantile start with the (broken?) new spawns is crazy as duo at least

static vessel
#

Thoughts on removing inferno staff from the game

wind spruce
cloud folio
#

there is a mod that keeps track of WU

static vessel
wind spruce
#

how is that a problem

wraith sphinx
#

It's not really a problem it's just for people who are lazy to look down at the bottom of the screen (me) (I started using custom HUD and I can't stop)

zealous wing
long saddle
#

puppet master for sure

zealous wing
#

you have puppet master, which is not as good as it seems it would be, i would take solidity instead, across from puppet master

wind spruce
zealous wing
#

i would also suggest looking into grabbing this talent, but you have the core basics and such, so unless you want more done its overall a well enough put together tree

hazy jetty
zealous wing
#

quell speed is manual quelling, not automatic

long saddle
#

it's only for active quelling

zealous wing
#

and, warp unbound only lasts 10 seconds, you cant make it last longer

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quell speed is the "hold reload to make peril go down" faster talent

hazy jetty
#

I can't make it last longer, but I can make time outside of warp unbound last shorter

long saddle
#

well your melee doesn't care about the warp unbound part that much, it only wants high peril which you get from warp ghost

summer prairie
#

I don't take solidity with one tap quell builds

zealous wing
#

it IS an EK though

hazy jetty
#

I mean, in meat grinder my Scrier's Glaze cd ends at the same time as Warp Unbound ends.

zealous wing
#

if you get enough targets yeah

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but im still confused how quelling lengthens scriers

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or, lengthen time between

opal holly
#

when you hit critical peril scriers ends

zealous wing
zealous wing
#

critical is 97

opal holly
#

ok you understood what i meant

wind spruce
hazy jetty
zealous wing
#

but why puppet master then? loregryn genuinely confused is all

hazy jetty
#

idk, just didn't wanted solidity instead

opal holly
#

probably good for expeditions

long saddle
#

what does expeditions change

deft stump
opal holly
#

so many genuises in the chat

deft stump
#

Depends on plan.

opal holly
#

you're all so intelligent

long saddle
#

idk, it's just experience

deft stump
#

Unless someone is saying they can solo as psyker and do minigames?

opal holly
#

solo psyker in expeditions is possibly the easiest thing ever

long saddle
#

tho my expeditions question was geniuine, what does coherency help with there?

deft stump
opal holly
#

in all of them

wind spruce
hazy jetty
#

I didn't tried expeditions yet, it sounds like Elden Ring: Nightreign so far

deft stump
deft stump
#

You fail, you lose everything.

opal holly
#

simply don't fail

zealous wing
#

some people dont know when to not greed

opal holly
#

am always greedy

zealous wing
#

what difficulty do you run

opal holly
#

auric

deft stump
silent frigate
#

or you know not picking up unnecessary fights XD

deft stump
#

You saw nothing, the wind stole your stuff.

long saddle
#

I had such a greedy zealot yesterday, he managed to get in to the closing door twice on the 5 part map with seconds to spare

zealous wing
#

oh random aside... any one know if they've noticed the spawns being broken yet?

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they being fatshark

long saddle
#

I did get a new highest score for an expedition but it was so needless

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if he died at any point we would've lost like 3k remnant at least lol

opal holly
#

zealot had a better grindset

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aspire to be like him

long saddle
#

no I'm not going to run martyrdom shroudfield knife in expeditions

opal holly
#

just run movement psyker

long saddle
#

I do

opal holly
#

become the fastest there can be

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are you using dd

long saddle
#

I'm using ainz soyker build

opal holly
#

what

deft stump
hazy jetty
opal holly
long saddle
#

SG and do some crits ye

deft stump
zealous wing
#

mettle, scriers warp speed, DD

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knife

deft stump
#

Zealots are just all round faster on avg.

zealous wing
#

assail

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i use trauma as my side arm

deft stump
#

Unless they take the heavy melees and ranged.

summer prairie
#

scum is much faster

opal holly
#

scum is dlc so its gonna be better

#

just the way it goes

deft stump
zealous wing
zealous wing
long saddle
#

idk, I've found arby to be pretty miserable in expeditions personally

opal holly
#

chopped psyker oh my goodness

summer prairie
#

dodge chaining

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faster with just nimble and much faster with alley cat

opal holly
wind spruce
#

Do the crabwalk

deft stump
#

You get 2 PoI max.

long saddle
#

ye and left out in the open to ranged

opal holly
#

block better

deft stump
#

Unless they are all next to each other.

deft stump
long saddle
opal holly
#

did you know blocking bullets negates the damage

long saddle
#

or you can just not get hit

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and run past it all

deft stump
opal holly
#

horde clear weapon in expeditions no wonder you're complaining

deft stump
opal holly
#

no i use shield like i implied

wind spruce
long saddle
#

ok then you're slow

opal holly
#

am very fast

wind spruce
#

it has great elite killing potential

opal holly
#

your build just stinks

wind spruce
#

like insane

deft stump
#

Someone smells like bs.

opal holly
#

why would i lie about this

#

someones jealous they don't know tech

zealous wing
opal holly
zealous wing
#

better hordeclear combo than shock maul

long saddle
#

so you're running fast with arby and also blocking all the gunfire?

deft stump
zealous wing
#

besides, on a whim, i ran inferno shriek on expeditions

opal holly
zealous wing
#

it did REALLy well lol

deft stump
long saddle
#

you just pretend you're playing havoc

deft stump
#

If ppl keep things from piling up behind me, one direction is usually good.

opal holly
#

i am a one man strike team

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there will never be better

deft stump
#

It works.

zealous wing
zinc phoenix
#

Expeditions has been fun. Im about to unlock the 6th node after playing a good bit of the further night map.

opal holly
zealous wing
#

i got the 8th last night

deft stump
#

Could push before for cleave.

zealous wing
zinc phoenix
zealous wing
#

the fuck does that mean kek

zinc phoenix
#

I will be lucky to get 6 before the end of the week

long saddle
#

I have the 8th but no one is ever queuing that

opal holly
zinc phoenix
# deft stump Kappa is the best.

I actually prefer dust vortex map because I like the shooter duels you get during daytime but kappa gets me progress on multiple nodes so kappa kappa kappa

zealous wing
opal holly
#

i am the funniest ever

long saddle
#

I like the extended one, the 7th in order ig?

zealous wing
#

and thats why no one ever takes you seriously

long saddle
#

long night map is too easy

zinc phoenix
opal holly
#

thats why when you find me in queue i will be the best

deft stump
zealous wing
long saddle
#

no I meant the 5 stage one

opal holly
#

you will say "baker senpai, how do i get better" and i will tell you to change that fit

#

nonsense. i am at work.

zealous wing
#

k then after

long saddle
#

why are you even here lol

opal holly
silent frigate
opal holly
zinc phoenix
opal holly
#

pizza at this hour?

#

you are large

zinc phoenix
long saddle
#

it's 1 pm here, I wouldn't mind a pizza except I already had lunch

zinc phoenix
#

Anyway I have fescue to rescue

#

I still think the eight billion queues for expeditions maps is gonna kill the mode

opal holly
#

i am the best psyker.

zinc phoenix
#

It’s impossible to get groups on most of the maps

opal holly
#

get good enough to not need a group

zinc phoenix
#

Even for kappa auric im usually solo most of the time

deft stump
long saddle
#

auric with bots is miserable

zinc phoenix
opal holly
#

blocked and still responding to me

zinc phoenix
#

It’s been 30 years, people need a new joke

opal holly
#

holy rent free

silent frigate
opal holly
#

simple as

zealous wing
#

dies in first room

#

calling it now

opal holly
#

i never die

zealous wing
#

he's the one being carried by everyone

zinc phoenix
silent frigate
opal holly
zealous wing
#

mhm we totally believe you

deft stump
silent frigate
#

yeah I pity those who has to carry you tho

opal holly
#

you dont have to believe me

silent frigate
#

we dont

opal holly
#

i am the strongest psyker

silent frigate
#

sure gran gran lets get you back to your bed

zealous wing
#

then why must you try to convince us. if you have to say it, youre nothing special

opal holly
#

i am the best

#

all of you wish you were me

long saddle
#

the best gray psyker

zealous wing
#

nah im good

deft stump
silent frigate
#

true I wish to be as carried as much as you are

deft stump
#

They could offer to prove their solos with recordings of their play or offering to play with ppl here in same region.

opal holly
#

i am in the superior part of the world

zealous wing
deft stump
#

Where's our American psykers?

opal holly
#

i am the sole american psyker

zealous wing
#

six is alseep, i was gonna ask for h40 with him but he's not available yet

deft stump
#

Ah.

zinc phoenix
deft stump
#

Playing with 300+ ping is spicy so more fair with same regions.

zinc phoenix
#

I always had small lots in the past, now I’m on at least a quarter acre and I am so mad at the grass

#

It’s green, it dies constantly and it gets everywhere

opal holly
#

im mad cause no one will ever be as good as me

#

its tragic at the top

deft stump
#

Where is Ainz?

zealous wing
long saddle
#

I have a courtyard in my apartment building, that's good enough for me

zealous wing
#

west coast, so its like 4 am

silent frigate
deft stump
deft stump
deft stump
zealous wing
deft stump
#

Ainz do it.

opal holly
#

my gameplay is far too amazing

#

i cannot reveal my tech

zealous wing
#

so you die before you even leave the valk, damn, impressive

long saddle
#

I haven't kept up, has ainz completed solo psyker runs?

silent frigate
deft stump
#

A.k.a. "I can't do it but I say I can to jerk off but everyone else knows it's a lie."

opal holly
#

its okay. you just need to get better

deft stump
silent frigate
opal holly
#

maybe if you were as good as me you'd understand

long saddle
#

I haven't had the super early spawns yet in the havocs I've done

zinc phoenix
# silent frigate I hate sand

Sand starts dead and stays that way, I’d happily take it. But I am forced to keep this specific grass alive under penalty of a lien against my house

long saddle
#

is it just on certain maps

zinc phoenix
#

I can’t wait til the builder turns over the HOA in a few years, I’m going to lead a goddamn grass Revolution

deft stump
silent frigate
opal holly
#

see how easy that was

deft stump
opal holly
#

but i am constantly persecuted and attacked for my amazing skill

zealous wing
deft stump
opal holly
deft stump
#

Nobody played with you at all.

long saddle
#

I've only seen hexis in a few mourningstar lobbies

#

I said hi yesterday

opal holly
zealous wing
#

its very funny

cloud folio
opal holly
zealous wing
#

well this was around 1k in

opal holly
#

i have every confidence

#

me? i could never fall

#

my skill keeps me grounded. focused. driven.

#

there's levels to this

silent frigate
opal holly
#

they try to grief me but i cant die

silent frigate
deft stump
opal holly
opal holly
#

i am the psyker

#

you are a poor mimicry

deft stump
#

What was that thing where I'm the first Psyker again? Maybe it's time to pull that out, even if I don't care for it.

opal holly
#

i am the first.

zealous wing
#

smyker. calling it now

opal holly
#

i dont use smite

zealous wing
#

i call bullshit until you prove otherwise

opal holly
#

smite is trash you need a team to capitalize

zealous wing
#

you have smyker behaviour

opal holly
#

you're an assail chud