psyker-class

[rich spindle]

I tried it once and fell asleep as 2 scum killed everything with rockets

[clear stag]

Lmao

[rich spindle]

Bosses die in like 1 second on auric now

Pretty insane

[clear stag]

I can definitely see it getting boring if there's more than one scum aboard

[ashen edge]

It was okay to deal with burster conga line

[radiant frigate]

event is fun until everyone starts exploding everything

ogryn pineapple of doom, kraks for all, roket :)

and then there is nothing left

the grenade regen really should not have been a thing

[zealous wing]

a tag i cannot equip

[ripe obsidian]

I do not understand how the grenade regen works

[thorn cedar]

random chance on ogryn kill

my read anyway

[hallow vector]

the danger of being psyker is reality breaking

[fiery stratus]

the irony of fragbomb being one of the least powerful feeling explosives during this event

Gotta beat crushers down to half to get any use out of it lol

[ripe obsidian]

Frag, as with many things, has suffered from the scab HP increases

[fiery stratus]

eh, sucks against crushers but that wasn't really good against carapace to begin with. They still seemed fine against non-crusher things

bosses they're kinda bad just because bleed is kinda bad overall

idk why my brain when to shredder frags, point still stands

[ripe obsidian]

It's sad that frag is worse than the scum RPG

I want frag to fucking clear a room

Like, nothing short of a boss survives a blast

[covert stump]

How dumb would a knife psyker setup be? I feel like we have the crit to make the finesse nice.

I just want a silly build to mess with and don't really do havoc

[ripe obsidian]

Meleeker? Or just as a sidearm to a staff?

[covert stump]

meleeker

[ripe obsidian]

It'll work fine

[covert stump]

Been having more fun with greatsword/gun psyker than staff

thanks, may as well give it a go

[ripe obsidian]

The big limiter for Psyker with a knife build, in my experience, is lack of attack speed. But I barely use meleeker and rarely use knife on any class

[covert stump]

after this event that doesn't really work for psyker at least

Ah, fair enough. I've only used it on zealot and he definitely solves that issue. Maybe I'll just try it on hive scum instead.

[ripe obsidian]

Trauma Psyker does well enough in this event. Strong CC and good damage

[covert stump]

I'll give it a go

[ripe obsidian]

Good luck

[dire wharf]

I'm having fun in the event using that build

Why is deimos recommended for that?

[jovial juniper]

Not dumb
Psyker low stamina Regen delay + Kinetic deflection makes spamming push attack really good

While also not caring about block break

[ripe obsidian]

Deimos and Obscurus both have good single-target damage and can use Uncanny

[jovial juniper]

Oh yeah
Just learned yesterday that there's a scorpion called Obscurus

[dire wharf]

Doea uncanny stack with brittle or is having both a waste

[zealous wing]

they stack because they're different

brittle is enemy debuff, uncanny is self buff

[jovial juniper]

Tityus obscurus

[jovial juniper]

Tldr both is "waste", uncanny all you need

[zealous wing]

i beg to differ, if its rending trauma vs own melee

especially with event

sometimes you can get away with melee, sometimes you need the staff

[jovial juniper]

It's a tldr
I will not explain further

[zealous wing]

then its not a tldr, its a tldw

too long; didnt write

[dire wharf]

I've been using penetrating flame for the event

[jovial juniper]

Nor considerate the infinite possibilities that happens in the game

[zealous wing]

rip

sorry for your loss

[ripe obsidian]

I don't think they do, actually, because 100% rending is the maximum

So you hit 100% from uncanny

And you're just done

So, like, 2 stacks of uncanny would stack with brittleness

Or if you apply brittleness first, uncanny would get you to 100%

Path enlightened me of this

[full river]

Pretty sure they don't overlap in the real sense just temporarily

You won't get extra DMG for exceeding the cap as with rending

[dire wharf]

Is that a waste of a blessing?

[full river]

Yeah

[zealous wing]

you either removed the damage blessing or the crit blessing, both of which is kinda bad

[dire wharf]

I think thats what the guide recommended, warp nexus

[ripe obsidian]

Let me rephrase. Any rending or brittleness over 100%--such as uncanny itself, which goes to like 120%--is meaningless

It is not counted

Rending and brittleness cap at 100% bonus

Both will provide bonus damage at a 1/4 rate over 100% ADMs

To quote Path's guide

"It is possible to reach >100% with rending & brittleness combined, as they stack together additively.
Should this occur, the max amount of ADM bonus that'll be considered will be 100%.
This means Uncanny Strike IV going up to +120% rending is actually +100% at most.

Another important thing to note is a conversion process that occurs if the sum of the attack's base ADM, rending and brittleness add up to exceed 100%, the exceeding portion will be converted into +damage at a quarter of its original value (see formula above). "

[wind spruce]

iirc path said that the 1/4 of rending over 1.0 ADM only applies up to 100% rending, but i wonder if brittleness applies first so if the enemy has 50% adm, you have 40% brittleness applied and 90% rending buff you'd get (90-50+40)/4=20% damage bonus

[ripe obsidian]

I just quoted Path D:

[crisp ether]

I think a clarification should be made here

[wind spruce]

I hadnt scrolled down hang on, readimg your last comment

[crisp ether]

That an attack doesn't always need 100% rending + brittleness to do its full damage through certain armor.

[wind spruce]

Ok thought answered haha

[crisp ether]

Some attacks already have great ADMs

Such as mk1 shiv heavies. In that case, you don't need the full 100% rending to do full damage with those, but any amount of rending over what's needed to do that full damage will be converted into extra damage until the actual rending itself hits 100% where the benefits end.

It's very complicated.

[ripe obsidian]

It is complicated

I wish Fatshark put any effort into explaining these systems

[crisp ether]

Tbf given how complicated the formula actually is

I doubt they'd be able to do it in a simple to understand manner

[wind spruce]

Yeah pretty much impossible haha

[crisp ether]

If anything me knowing what I do about rending is just another sign that I have to be on the spectrum to some extent LMAO

[wind spruce]

You could mayyybe get across that you don't need 100% rending/brittleness for full damage well enough that the average player could understand it

[full river]

Interesting I thought only rending worked that way since brittleness is team wide effect

[wind spruce]

But the extra damage for exceeding 1.0 adm, no chance

[ripe obsidian]

Brittleness will give your team bonus damage at a 1/4 rate if their attack surpasses 100% ADM

(on flak, maniac, unyielding, carapace)

Is nice

4/10 event missions done. This is slow going.

[empty glacier]

Hello!

Which Blaze Force Sword should I take for Pysker?
Blaze Force Sword 460 Power
Damage [78/80]%
Finesse [74/80]%
First Target [52/60]%
Mobility [77/80]%
Warp Resistance [80/80]%
Light Attack 198 | Heavy Attack 198

Blaze Force Sword 450 Power
Damage [71/77]%
Finesse [64/69]%
First Target [75/80]%
Mobility [68/74]%
Warp Resistance [75/80]%
Light Attack 209 | Heavy Attack 209

[wind spruce]

Ideally neither but out of the two take first one

Finesse is the most important stat bc it gives attack speed aswell as damage

Eventually you want to find one with 80s in everything except warp resistance

[hallow vector]

warp resistance is the dump stat

1st one is best

also you can change the mk

[ripe obsidian]

Is Warp Resist equivalent to sanity?

Are we dumping our sanity?

[hallow vector]

warp resist is just how much warp the ability uses

good* on something like inferno staff so you can fire longer

but on the melees it dont matter

u shouldnt be spamming it to begin wit

[hallow vector]

its still a good dump stat

esp with all the abilities that lower peril

[zealous wing]

yes

[ripe obsidian]

I know that

:(

I am being silly.

[ripe obsidian]

Good.

[ripe obsidian]

Also, sub-60 warp resist is good on melees because it allows you to rapidly gain peril, particularly for a max-stack Shriek.

And Inferno is the only staff where sub-60 WR is really viable

Because it generates peril so slowly

High peril = tankier and more damage dealt, so Inferno's slow peril gen can work against you

[hallow vector]

yea just depends

but even still spamming it is just kinda less worth when u can do more damage with it charged

[ripe obsidian]

Only spam LMB if you absolutely need the stagger

Such as on shotgunners or ragers

Otherwise RMB is king

[hallow vector]

blaze away is crazy on it tbh

[ripe obsidian]

Blaze Away is pretty broken, yeah

You can maintain Blaze Away when swapping from RMB to LMB, but it drops before you can swap to RMB from LMB

[azure parcel]

Just saw a Psyker with Run n Gun and Terrifying Barrage on trauma staff

I wish someone could explain to me what's going on with quickplay these days...

[ripe obsidian]

Perhaps they are a genius and we the fools

[verbal thistle]

lol

had a smite psyker blow up from peril

[plucky flax]

Sry was me

[hallow vector]

i use warp flurry with blaze away

[plucky flax]

[deft stump]

But Six, do we even have sanity in the first place?

[wraith sphinx]

Sanity is for the weak

[hallow vector]

i just made giga flame psyker

i havent actually seen one that does this yet

[deft stump]

That's just standard Flame psyker build.

Get PC, Wildfire, blaze shriek, WS.

[hallow vector]

nope

well kinda

but also no

[radiant frigate]

elaborate

[deft stump]

If you say inferno... That's basically the basic flame psyker.

[zealous wing]

elaborate

[hallow vector]

800k damage on smite only psyker

[radiant frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/dungeon-meshi-delicious-in-dungeon-studio-trigger-marcille-donato-disbelief-gif-6163529742425774907

YOU'RENOTREALYOU'RENOTREALYOU'RENOTREAL

[hallow vector]

microwave psyker build

[deft stump]

so you mean you made everyone else fall asleep and get off the game to farm damage on that.

[hallow vector]

technically possible

[hallow vector]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a139f240-ab15-4371-b23b-52ac238e2ce7/endless-fire

[radiant frigate]

cursed

[zealous wing]

so close yet so far

[long saddle]

only have TS left myself

[deft stump]

What are the missing things? I personally only have poxbreaker left to go for.

[zealous wing]

10x auric , 5x auric mael, 1x auric mael no one goes down, true survivor, mortis trials, havoc assists

[deft stump]

I thought you only auric?

Kinda thought you would have that done.

[plucky flax]

Extremely cursed build

[twilit ermine]

warp flurry 🤢

if ur running an infinite flame build why not 20% crit chance on max peril

literally double ur dps

[zealous wing]

no i play whatever i feel my brain will let me handle

and besides, theres always someone causing my death via shenanigans whenever i think "maybe i can get that streak done soon"

[deft stump]

Oh right, you play with Dom and barrel each other.

[dire wharf]

I barrelled someone deliberately yesterday to save them from a poxburster that was about to kill them

Could literally feel my brain expanding

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/adaptation-bag-secured-puzzle-pieces-coming-together-meta-vision-yoichi-isagi-gif-15260960588377152337

[ripe obsidian]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1272804331497979935/1450700850132418651/Kill_All_Smykers.gif

[azure parcel]

I would have just quit the game in the first minute of that shit

[manic bluff]

feeling kinda lucky this didn't happen to me when i did the smite penance

[ripe obsidian]

Just had someone join an event game, call us slurs for "pushing with bots," threaten to dox us, then quit.

so that was something

[azure parcel]

bro this event has really brought out some actual reddit-tier morons out of the woodwork

it's insane

[manic bluff]

wtf cO

there is an option to not join games in progress xD

[ripe obsidian]

I reported him

guy was like level 1900 psyker, too

and we had just started, so he missed maybe one wave of enemies

[jovial juniper]

Psyker players for some reason

https://tenor.com/view/king-von---armed-%26-dangerous-gif-14036418018113420066

[ripe obsidian]

:<

[jovial juniper]

[restive grail]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a13ada4e-6eb3-43d2-8128-f720d5b11f0f/tara-electro-psyker-build?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

my buidl

knife is mainly for mobility

[jovial juniper]

Lacerate on knife

I will not analyze the rest of the build

[restive grail]

i dont need melee with this build so i just have the knife to get around

i just put whatever on it honestly

[ripe obsidian]

I would make Changes to this build.

[small pulsar]

blessed by brunt himself

[marble crater]

Damn

[stone canyon]

Im struggling to survive at Damnation

Took me 1min to remember what button was even quell

Kept pressing Q for swinging staff

Also, Venting Shriek and still managed to blow myself up, mutant grabbed when got into that animation before pressing F

[rich spindle]

I like it on staff psyker

More consistent bleed stacks on captains and bosses

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/blah-blah-blah-ignore-hearing-hear-listening-gif-13753005114028191086

[rich spindle]

Open your ass and your mind will follow

[jovial juniper]

Dude you're the one running Lacerate on the knife

https://tenor.com/view/druski-shrug-idk-iono-hands-up-gif-7122581203490458147

[rich spindle]

Free yourself

[jovial juniper]

I'm free already

[rich spindle]

Break the shackles

[jovial juniper]

I'm just goated like that

[rich spindle]

https://tenor.com/view/lawrence-fishburne-morpheus-gif-12758148172841896178

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/blah-blah-blah-ignore-hearing-hear-listening-gif-13753005114028191086

[rich spindle]

I will grow an ear for you my friend

[jovial juniper]

I see that you're a good person so I'll just say it

There's not a single thing you can say that'll make me think Lacerate is good

Don't waste your time

[rich spindle]

I know

Some gamers live in impenetrable fear

[rapid goblet]

hello there, I have a question, with all that fat crushers spam what viable set up for illisi?
I love it and its wide attacks, but only good against non-carapace mobs, is it only good on staff builds?

[jovial juniper]

Dawg
If you want to try

Go uncanny+executor/Slaughterer Illisi

Or
Just pick Obscurus/Deimos

[rapid goblet]

yeah, right now I use obscurus and deimos on most builds

but

[rich spindle]

Yeah it’s fine with uncanny

[jovial juniper]

Theoretically you can buff the Illisi to deal with Crushers

[rich spindle]

Just spam heavies at crusher heads

[jovial juniper]

But it's just not ideal

[stone canyon]

I just did my 2 first ever games with Deimos, starting to think i should try maybe Illisi instead

[rapid goblet]

yeah, I noticed

[stone canyon]

Or just maybe stop trying to play Psyker, maybe just not my thing

Is there guide for Deimos and those others? Couldnt find on pins

[rich spindle]

Illisi with uncanny and DD stacks deals with crushers pretty handily

[rapid goblet]

wait, does illisi even has single target attack? mb single target combo?

[rich spindle]

Not really

[jovial juniper]

Special Heavy spam at head level

That's pretty much it

[stone canyon]

When to use Deimos Charge?

[rich spindle]

Is special heavy higher crusher dps than normal heavy with uncanny stacks up?

[stone canyon]

Also does it have some horde clear or do i just spam lights?

[rich spindle]

Spam lights

The charge attack is just for building peril or for fun really. You can use it to latch onto muties

[jovial juniper]

I know that with Uncanny + Slaughterer stacked
Special Heavy deals about 200 more damage than special light
I'm just not sure about the ttk difference

[jovial juniper]

Never

However

[rich spindle]

I think it’s lower ttk overall cus of the long ass special animation

[stone canyon]

Not even on voidshield of captain?

[jovial juniper]

It can stack uncanny+executor really fast if you hit a weakspot with the special attack of Deimos/obscurus

[rich spindle]

Didn’t notice much difference in voidshield damage between special and block canceling lights

I typically do use special on the shield tho to build peril

I think the Deimos special always counts and weakspot and stacks uncanny right

[jovial juniper]

It does stack but it's not always considered weakspot
You still gotta aim

[rich spindle]

Interesting

[rapid goblet]

push attack is always headshot

[rich spindle]

I’ve had buff bar turned off forever

[rapid goblet]

how do you even live without all those buggy icons that jump here and there lol

[jovial juniper]

Feel it

[rapid goblet]

[jovial juniper]

Fr though

If you ever play Vigilant psyker

You really notice when the buffs are up so you one shot ranged enemies

Or when they are down so you 2-3 shot it

Old dd perfectionism

I don't miss you

[rapid goblet]

what is "Vigilant psyker"? you mean vigilant autoguns?

[jovial juniper]

Yes
You play Vigilant auto

And kill everything that glows blue

Psyker but dedicated marksman

Once the Vigi starts 1 shotting stuff you have pretty good ammo economy

[rapid goblet]

didn't even play them outside vet, heh, sounds interesting, which one do you recommend? single shot?

[jovial juniper]

I'm particularly fan of single shot

Yup

[rapid goblet]

hmm, i see, definitely gonna try this

oh, also question about shotguns on psyker does it worth a try?

[stone canyon]

Cant decide between Deimos or DS IV

I dont really understand what the deimos block push thing does

[verbal thistle]

the push attack?

[stone canyon]

Yeah where you do some energy push thingy

[verbal thistle]

single target stagger

enough to push over rinda in havoc

or open bulwarks

its like 8 meters of range too

[stone canyon]

I saw clip of someone stacking uncanny i think with it to deal with lots of crushers with fire

[verbal thistle]

it also hits weakspot witht he stagger

yes

[stone canyon]

I cant seem to do same in psykhanium though

[marble crater]

I would say no, if you want to try shotguns I would try them on another class

[spice aurora]

you can push twin / captains off map pretty easily too since its a huge knockdown its funny

Just don’t get shield blasted off urself xD

[rapid goblet]

I see, thank you

[stone canyon]

Okay now i can see the higher ticks, kinetic flayer got in the way of seeing it

[rapid goblet]

do captains has stagger cooldown as crushers?

[spice aurora]

They should but I think shield break overrides but I’m not too sure on specifics (like if you fk a captain shield and they fall down, and you breakshield before they recover, itll fall again even if still recovering)

[spiral fiber]

Whats evertones favorite psyker primary and secondary (subjective)

[thorn cedar]

deimos + laspee

[marble crater]

EK>Voidblast>>>>Inferno>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Voidstrike
Deimos/Illisi/Greatsword

[dire wharf]

BFG fpr primary but deimos is growing on me

[gentle hamlet]

Is tac axe any good on melee psyker

Psyker

[marble crater]

Sir, this is the psyker chat

[gentle hamlet]

Melee psyker

[marble crater]

I don't know how good taxe is, especially for a dedicated melee build, I know plenty here enjoy it outside of it though and for a melee build greatsword should be king

[ripe obsidian]

:<

poor voidstrike

[rich spindle]

Yeah

[radiant frigate]

i be using voidstrike again

it is a funny doomstick

[ripe obsidian]

Good.

This pleases me.

[radiant frigate]

the difference in lmb compared to EK is somewhat noticeable

but this also deals with snoipers better

by virtue of being pinpoint accurate

[ripe obsidian]

Voidstrike makes a satisfying chunk noise

[radiant frigate]

plus it's just satisfying to dome something with the arcane cannon

[marble crater]

Voidstrike sound is very satisfying and having a hallway in front of you is double very satisfying

[rigid sky]

Plus voidstrike supports DD pretty well

[ripe obsidian]

presented without comment, a FGS seen in an H40 lobby:

[verbal thistle]

Spot the smyker rule #1

If their weapons are badly setup

[ripe obsidian]

you are

correct

and this staff paired with the sword

[weary crane]

Honestly tame for the shit I've seen

I think I saw someone put crit damage on inferno

[ripe obsidian]

Share with me the horrors you have witnessed

Oh.

Ew.

I saw someone with Channeled Force on Inferno. That made me sad.

Channeled Force in general makes me sad

[verbal thistle]

Called it

I have 3 ways to spot them

[ripe obsidian]

If it didn't force you to use full RMB charges, it would be an interesting talent

[verbal thistle]

So far 100% accuracy bar bruh moment

1: bad weapons
2: electric name/emblem
3: running while holding blitz out
3.5: (the reduce peril talent and EP)

[ripe obsidian]

Cloud radius dump

Infested damage

Warp Flurry

What

[ripe obsidian]

Why is he the exception?

[verbal thistle]

Had smite and a goofy staff when I met him

Back when charged strikes was bugged

Or maybe that was sal

[ripe obsidian]

They are both goofy goobers

[spice aurora]

u run smite bc you want to CC for the team

i run smite cause I hardly use my blitz and want to troll with selecting smite

we r not the same

Maybe this is y I get declined all day

[rich spindle]

WE DEMAND TO BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY

[verbal thistle]

Okay Mr minion

[ripe obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/i-demand-to-be-taken-seriously-graham-stark-lrr-feed-dump-loadingreadyrun-gif-22470324

[keen folio]

Does this mean I have to take 50% of its HP in a single brain burst, or can it be through multiple?

[quartz mauve]

fatshark please let us pick the ability to not queue into the events as certain classes, I DONT WANNA PLAY THE EVENT AS A PSYKER

[verbal thistle]

multiple

[zealous wing]

just 50% or more of its hp in total with BB

[radiant frigate]

why not

[zealous wing]

honestly a full on "opt out of event" option would be nice

same as they did for campaign

some events are fun, some are just not fun

most are only fun if you're playing with at least one friend

[swift stag]

I enjoyed the crushers, not so much the bursters.

[zealous wing]

the pox gas event was more fun

[swift stag]

well yeah you can mitigate the entire thing with stims.

[radiant frigate]

the event is fun with fgs

buuut i think the grenade regen is a bit excessive

[ripe obsidian]

You? Recommending FGS?

Absurd.

Also, how does the grenade regen even work?!

[radiant frigate]

hell if i know

they just show up in your pockets

[zinc phoenix]

I think the best event was the altar one

It genuinely changed how you played the game by forcing you to think about when and how to activate em

Lotta fun

[radiant frigate]

wasn't present so cannot comment

[crisp ether]

This event is ass

It's either really obnoxious more because of the busters than anything

Or it's a complete sleeper because everyone is running the stuff that completely trivilializes it

There's no in between

[radiant frigate]

boy do i have a screenshot for you

[ripe obsidian]

zap

[crisp ether]

I could not ask for more barrels on this screen rn

[spice aurora]

@ripe obsidian me crash q-q

[plucky flax]

Irl crash out

[spice aurora]

y is this a ledge

like 10 fall dmg

[verbal thistle]

I've done that before

yeah

[spice aurora]

not only that but i curved the dodge to go over close ledge

and it still said fk u xD

[ripe obsidian]

pfft

brutal

[verbal thistle]

It's an aggressive grab

Sorta like 1st drop after elevator on refinery delta

[spice aurora]

i even jumped off a sec before that and a mutie grabbed me thru railing and pulled me bak up xD

ah

[verbal thistle]

That railing will throw you if you come close

[ripe obsidian]

I am too heavy for bruh moment to carry.

[spice aurora]

im cheating w needl pistol, 0 skill

[rich spindle]

this happens every single session.....

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-endgame-avengers-gone-ashes-gif-14019029

[ripe obsidian]

I greeded for the revive

because I am a fool

[spice aurora]

did the bot get the net off

[ripe obsidian]

nah

[spice aurora]

faaaaaaah

[ripe obsidian]

that was my bad

[spice aurora]

i lied i have 1 more in me >:)

sometimes i get tired of winning 800000000000000000000000 games in a row that i purposefully lose 800000000000000000000000 games in a row too

[ripe obsidian]

I'm just bad. :D

[ripe obsidian]

that's how I died in the first game

[ripe obsidian]

I swear, whenever I play with people I know are better than me, we go on big losing streaks

S4lmon, bruh moment, ainz, syllogism

etc

[spice aurora]

we suk

https://tenor.com/view/toilet-paper-noose-hang-suicide-gif-9818751

[ripe obsidian]

I just wish I knew what I was doing wrong, or if there's something I can do better

[deft stump]

Even Vect?

[spice aurora]

i think ur fine xD

i literally get sniped, wake up dh, fall off map

[deft stump]

He just forgets when ppl play with friends, they all goof off more and...

[ripe obsidian]

Yes, even Vect

[deft stump]

You know the, play to hard solo carry because expected 3 idiots in pubs but with friends...

[ripe obsidian]

I mostly get frustrated at myself for not performing as well as I feel I should

[deft stump]

Isn't that for everyone?

Is why it's extra stress when last alive.

[dire wharf]

Have you tried using smite

[ripe obsidian]

Well, I also have diagnosed mental health issues that often manifest as extremely low self-worth. Is why I go to therapy. Sometimes wires get crossed and things that should be fun and no stakes, like video games, trigger that self-worth stuff. Is particularly bad in co-op games when I feel I have let my team or friends down

[ripe obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/you-make-me-sad-monty-python-bothered-let-down-gif-4898301

[spice aurora]

its ok if ur in group with me i literally cannot care less if any1 dies xd thast y i inv that rank 24 guy

[ripe obsidian]

He had a rough time. I think he tilted in the last couple missions

[deft stump]

Oh. I know the feel. I mean, you can already tell at times. And people do call me nothing but a mascot for show at times... So basically do nothing.

[ripe obsidian]

So it goes

I don't think I was the main reason for losing any of those games. I did eat some nets I should have dodged, and took a fair amount of unnecessary damage, but

[deft stump]

Well, I just know I'm basically useless bait so...

[spice aurora]

i was the reason its ok xD

[rich spindle]

losing havoc is normal if you dont play cautiously

every time I play with bruh we lose like 8 in a row cus we rush ahead for fun chaotic situations

[tacit kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/darktide-40k-psyker-explode-perils-gif-10586129510772702813

[rich spindle]

I have like a 10% win rate I think

[dire wharf]

I've yet to lose a match in havoc

I've also yet to play a match in havoc

What's the dump stat for inferno staff, warp res or quell?

[long saddle]

warp res

only staff that isn't is voidstrike, which is blast radius

or charge rate EK if you're going surge surge ig

[hallow vector]

always warp res

theres talents that buff it anyways and quell speed is decently important

[long saddle]

inferno can also use a lot lower than 60% warp res

[dire wharf]

Thanks

[trail orbit]

If you use tranquility through slaughter with a shotgun, does activate for each enemy hit perk shot? Or does it only work for each crit shot that just hits.

[trail orbit]

I have no wifi and thus can’t test it. But like shotgun psyker with scattershot and man stopper would be the ULTIMATE scrier’s quell into horde

[timber moon]

Thank you Mister E for this amazing, and legit broken, build :D

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/mfnt7DlAHkGPeWDi-?invite=cr-MSxxekYsNTI3ODIwNzAz&v=60
https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/mfnCuXPSBlZ8zoJvP?invite=cr-MSxueUUsNTI3ODIwNzAz&v=60

[radiant frigate]

ANYTHING BUT THE SMYKER

[timber moon]

UNLIMITEDE POWER

[long saddle]

broken as in not working? makes sense

[timber moon]

Listen I fucking hate this event and I'm just trying to get it out of the way for myself and anyone else trying to do it. Might as well do it in the most silly method I can think of.

[long saddle]

just run rending trauma or go full FGS if you wanna do this event as psyker

[timber moon]

But who would be the one keeping fifty poxbursters away while keeping the crushers at bay?

[long saddle]

rending trauma

or just you know

push bursters

[hallow vector]

cant push bursters through a giant ogryn crowd sadly

[timber moon]

When pushing bursters either causes them to explode near you anyways (due to their large explosion radius which forces you to dodge backwards half the time), and their bug which makes them refuse to explode even when they get pushed, making them frankly unpredictable, I rather have the guarantee to fuck up an entire horde and the endless poxbursters that come with this event.

Does it have any skill? Fucking barely aside from target horde prority and dodge use. Is it meta? No because bosses still can ruin a good smyker and it ain't good with LMS in mind. Is it fun? Depends on your preferences for the game. If you prefer to mix-max your own damage and you hate hive scum and psykers already for stealing kills, or you just want to do anything but smiting endlessly, probobly not fun. But if you want to just be silly and min-max horde stunning potential for your team, and your team doesn't mind or appreciates it, it is such a fun build.

I don't run it everytime obviously, but I have it in my back pocket just in case I have a bad day, and considering poxbursters have been acting ass lately, I'd rather make sure they don't ruin my team's day even if it means it turns the game into easy mode.

[timber moon]

That and their bug of not exploding half the time or suddenly showing up in the worse spots is why I brought the build.

We were playing Auric and I know Auric is fucking beyond hell for anyone trying to play this event. I wanted to take all that weight off the shoulders for everyone playing because trust me... I'd rather have fun than take the challenge seriously if the challenge is this bullshit.

Plus, it's a silly build. I have not gotten anyone complaining about it in-game and people tend to appreciate that one guy who can hold the horde for them to finish the job. It's very much my favorite support build alongside toxic hive scum, tanky toughness ogryn, and mr shield's a lot abritrator builds.

[hallow vector]

ive had bursters just be fucking creeps and walking with me right on my ass

like blow up or stop following me wtf

[timber moon]

It also fucks over trappers and chargers and hounds, which makes sudden trapper horde shooting less of an issue especially with the higher special spawn rate as of late.

[timber moon]

I KNOW. I have gotten down to just using anti pox strategies such as shoving them and shooting them, or... well, you know, smyker unlimited power on steroids.

It's legit the main reason I brought it around this time. Poxbursters have gotten way, way worse lately. Anyone who says otherwise are flat wrong.

I have so much footage of pox bursters being a legit issue beyond any reasonable measure

[hallow vector]

its so fucked up like ill be focused one direction, hear a burster for like 10 seconds and wonder where it is since it isnt ticking faster, then i turn around and its literally just breathing down my neck

[timber moon]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/mfq9yfxPMmMsuBuOS?invite=cr-MSxzN3QsNTI3ODIwNzAz&v=60

People who complain about smyker in this event have no fucking idea what it's like dealing with fifty thousand poxbursters

Like... that's not the only footage... I have way more

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/mcy3eSdGR0PLNau7L?invite=cr-MSxnRlIsNTI3ODIwNzAz&v=60

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/mcy0IbDS1HeFHwHkl?invite=cr-MSxTQTIsNTI3ODIwNzAz&v=60

Don't worry, it gets worse

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/mcxz4QQEcTmXJQwET?invite=cr-MSxEM0osNTI3ODIwNzAz&v=60

Like what the fuck was I supposed to do there?!

Note I had my dogless casgator stance arbi build, meaning if I didn't had that ability active almost half of my health would be gone. Thank god for toughness resistance and regen for that instance

It was literally unwinnable to get those poxers away considering they were not only back to back, but scattered like hel, so it would be impossible to prevent the explosion even if you got one shoved, because another was already behind which you won't be able to shove back in time

[radiant frigate]

entirely wrong

[timber moon]

Did you watch any of the footage of the poxies being an issue and literally having impossible to win situations?

Any of the footage I sent above here?

[radiant frigate]

did you make an incredibly generalized statement about the experience of others?

[timber moon]

Because those experiences of others usually don't mind or enjoyed the use of smyker when I asked them in-game. Like... most people don't care or are thankful.

I mean, does that mean smyker isn't an issue?

Uh, no, smyker does need some balance, def

But this game is so fucking unbalanced, any advantage helps sometimes, especially for an event so full of pox bursters

[radiant frigate]

aye, but that's not what you said

[timber moon]

Which are usually stunned and thrown back by smite

[timber moon]

I literally mentioned that during the discussion

[radiant frigate]

you said the ones complaining about smyker do not know what it is like to deal with bursters

it is the exact opposite

those complaining about smyker know how it is

[timber moon]

Good point, but it's on fatshark to fix those issues which have been plaguing the game. They haven't, and in an event like this, having someone who can keep bursters back usually helps, even if they are OP.

Being honorable is fun, yes, but I wasn't feeling like being honorable, and nor did the people I play with, who are usually level 30 randos who have 300+ true level half the time

Aka, people who play the game decently often

Sorry I made that generalized statement, but the way you are going about this arguement, over a psyker build I was just sharing, sounds like you are grasping at straws over an issue that fatshark themselves should have addressed years ago, in terms of balance and game design.

There is so many damn bugs and issues with this game. It doesn't mean you should shut down someone's build for exploiting balance issues which may likely never get patched, especially if they aren't harming anyone.

Would it be better that the game got fixed and balanced? Yes

This game needs a medic-type update bad.

[long saddle]

nah, smykers are always worth calling out

some ppl just don't

[timber moon]

If they don't want to call them out, they don't have to. If people wanted to call out my build, I would have gotten a complaint before now, and certainly gotten a complaint in-game

Is it important to report these type of issues? Fuck yes.

Fatshark really needs to fix their damn game

But believe me I'd take being shat on as a smyker than deal with fifty poxbursters

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/mfuzmUT5iUiNJVFPW?invite=cr-MSxiTDUsNTI3ODIwNzAz&v=21

Legitimately if you are wanting to complain about this issue, complain to fatshark. Report these bugs, start a community movement if it gets so bad it requires it. They need to get their shit fixed.

But please don't fucking act like an asshole over someone using a build that uses already broken mechanics, especially if nobody in-game complained to them about it.

[long saddle]

no I will

[timber moon]

(Which I do ask people about that type of shit and they never complained once in-game. This has only happened on this discord today)

[timber moon]

Congrats, you reached levels of misery I will never be able to achieve. I have never expected such a petty response but oops welcome to discord.

Time to go to bed.

[long saddle]

sleep well

[radiant frigate]

lol

lmao

that is all

[icy breach]

Too bad that build is worse than venting shriek version for numerous reasons
Still; nice

[rich spindle]

if you dodged back to the left behind the wall after the first push you would have been safe

[zealous wing]

this event is just a maelstrom modifier "extra poxbursters" or the explosives event where there were waves of bursters and extra explosion velocity.

smykers exploding bursters in my face will never make me grateful

[zealous wing]

as proof i've dealt with waves of bursters before:

its much more entertaining when the death is your own damn fault rather than someone elses

[wraith sphinx]

Is that a kettle kekw emoji

Amazing

[zealous wing]

it is

[icy breach]

Thats cope mah brudha

[icy breach]

Kekttle

[rose linden]

Could have just pushed them through the Wall my, my boy, you even have danger zone, so it would have been free

[jovial juniper]

Dawg

What is that pfp

Lmao

Psyker players for some reason

https://tenor.com/view/king-von---armed-%26-dangerous-gif-14036418018113420066

[rose linden]

Psyker players?

[jovial juniper]

Yesterday a psyker player went down and threw some slurs at people

Then left the match

Also

The psykinetic?

[weary crane]

Scab plasma gunners when they were first released

https://tenor.com/view/king-von-demon-serial-killer-meme-edit-gif-12191038090645133761

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/charleston-white-king-von-satan's-greatest-soldier-meme-twitter-gif-12007713874324989798

I miss launch Scab Plasma

https://tenor.com/view/jikowrld-druski-druski-mad-druski-tired-druski-disappointed-gif-26152444

[dire wharf]

Hey siblings, what is a breakpoint? I keep seeing it mentioned

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/skill-issue-urge-resist-cat-gif-25536160

[zealous wing]

the point between something being oneshot or barely not oneshot, basically

ie, oneshot vs like 100hp left

you want to get into the oneshot breakpoint somehow

[rigid sky]

Matters more for melee or for single blast weapons like Zarona revolver

Matters less for shit like Vraks IAG

Matters even more for brutal momentum weapons

(as in, is absolutely crucial to them)

[weary crane]

And brain bust

[dire wharf]

thx

[thorn cedar]

Breakpoint isn't a one shot specific definition, but it's the easiest example to make.

It's just whatever amount of bonus you need before something of consequence occurs.

40 damage increased to 49 damage on a 100hp enemy doesn't make any difference.
40 to 50 is now one less hit.
Etc.

I first learned of breakpoints in Diablo 2 because faster hit recovery was % based but your actual character could only 'recover' faster if that % moved the animation into a lower frame time.

So 12 frames to recover, 50% would cut it in half but another 5% would do nothing

[rigid sky]

It also means there is a cliff edge diminishing return after a point

(again especially with bromentum weapons)

[dire wharf]

(taking notes)

[mental rock]

resists urge to make bus analogy

[deft stump]

Is why Atk SPD is sketch at times.

[foggy comet]

Can anyone help me make a psyker build that uses greatsword and is super tanky ?

[marble crater]

No, but I can recommend you check the build bonanza in the pins, I would be surprised if there isn't a build that fits those criteria

[ripe obsidian]

There is at least one.

[radiant frigate]

pick up DR talents in the midsection, scrier's and quietude/bcob/warp expenditure/mettle

[ripe obsidian]

BCoB. >:(

[rigid sky]

You never get super tanky

But the greatsword is a very robust weapon

You can keep yourself very safe with it, which is a different kind of thing but accomplishes the same

[dire wharf]

Beef, Cabbage, or Both?

[rigid sky]

Wagamama does these beef and kimchi gyoza dumplings (kimchi is fermented cabbage I think) and it's one of the nicest things you can get as a takeaway imo

So both

[dire wharf]

Now I'm hungry

[zealous wing]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a0bcdc7a-d0f6-4438-825d-fa4fe02e1909/berpsyker

[radiant frigate]

not a fan i take it?

[ripe obsidian]

I am ambivalent

And also dramatic

[cosmic sigil]

Not really tanky 🙁

No jad, no quietude...

[zealous wing]

i didnt see you posting one

besides, its beginner friendly, more so than jad, and quietude is really a waste on melee

[wraith sphinx]

I find it good but build specific, if that makes sense

currently I'm only using it on my dedicated melee psyker build

the one with fgs, laspistol and bb I use almost exclusively for KF procs

[solemn atlas]

How does status ownership work? I know about soulblaze but apparently burn overrides soulblaze or something???

[marble crater]

Whoever applies first is the owner and as far as I know soulblaze and burn are their own things that don't overwrite each other

[solemn atlas]

Someone tried asking me to not use the flamer when we had a purg staff psyker because of some weird status shit because apparently our pysker wouldn't get her kit to work in a havoc 40

Ive never heard of flamer messing up purg psyker before ever until now

[jovial juniper]

Afaik burn and blaze are very different and don't overwrite each other

[solemn atlas]

So they basically lied to me to not use flamer??

[jovial juniper]

The worst that can happen is

Fire ends up ticking first than blaze and killing the target

So the psyker doesn't get bonuses for Warp kills and shit

[solemn atlas]

But like in a havoc 40 tho?
There are a ton of enemies
And the flamer doesnt exactly have infinite ammo

[marble crater]

Only thing people shouldn't do is apply soulblaze first if they have an inferno psyker with blaze away, because it lowers the soulblaze damage a lot, as the bonuses don't apply due to soulblaze ownership belonging to someone else

[spice aurora]

When I win, I have 100% win rate in havoc 😎

[marble crater]

Woah, me too

[zealous wing]

it doesnt

on healthbars it counts both as burn

but on the debuff mod it shows them seperately as intended

they are 100% different statuses

[cosmic sigil]

I have done so in the past. Quietude will give you toughness using SG and gaining peril from assail as well. It’s not a waste, but a choice. And soulstealer would be another good choice and beginner friendly as well. More so than refreshing them faster. If you weave them to get your mm procing and not spam them you’ll get them back fast enough.

[cosmic sigil]

I take 0 dmg in Havoc

[zealous wing]

not much though, especially if you're maintaining at 90+ peril

[cosmic sigil]

It's a choice and using SG will lower your peril every time. So you're not maintaining it at 90 all the time.

Your build is fine, I'm only criticizing the tanky part because I think it lacks some talents to earn that title.

[spice aurora]

@verbal thistle wat you think about fgs with gaze by crack of bone versus the cleave per peril? For me in my head I think peril flies up and down with SG so idk if id see much use from the cleave and I want longer sg, but then I look at my peril and think if by crack even does shit

[cosmic sigil]

Do you use assail?

[verbal thistle]

I don't like either talent for FGS, bcob I only notice in hordes when I use light attack other then that it attacks too slow for me to notice. The cleave doesnt do much because its a single target poke weapon with infinite cleave on speical. But with ranged/blitz options it does something for that

[spice aurora]

I thought kinda similar, don’t need cleave bc special and bcob maybe gives a couple more stacks of sg xD and nah if I used assail id use the cleave

I don’t actually use any blitz I thought about assail but then I need a point in the last SG node and I aint got points to spare xD (using 20% mvspeed instead for SG, lets me do stupid shit)

[verbal thistle]

I guess in a vacuum BCoB is more useful, but I don't like the feel of it

[dull scroll]

forsake crack or warp ghost, save the point and let the peril go as it will 😌

[marble crater]

[ripe obsidian]

new ogryn packmaster sees through stealth and is immune to arby doggo

fascinating

[marble crater]

Zealot, Vet and Arby in shambles

[ripe obsidian]

"Finally, before we move the spotlight to his canine friend, we should give a fair warning to all Arbites players out there. This guy is used to having unruly dogs around him, so you should probably think twice before you send your Cyber Mastiff his way. Don’t say we didn’t warn you.

“Yeah we do have a new cool animation for when a Cyber-Mastiff attacks the Pack Master and he just…”

Jonathan

"

[verbal thistle]

bulwark carapace hounds

[ripe obsidian]

he's gonna bully the dog

[wraith sphinx]

oh shit oh fuck

Just the other week I was thinking "thank god there aren't armored pox hounds, that'd just be plain evil"

cursed

[marble crater]

So we blame and thank you then

[wraith sphinx]

This is Sephoni's fault, she eavesdropped on my thoughts again

[cosmic sigil]

Wait wait wait, where does this come from?

[wraith sphinx]

From my incomparable mind

#🐦tweets-sermons message

[marble crater]

New dev blog from like 20 minutes ago

[cosmic sigil]

My my my

[radiant frigate]

it was once revealed to me in a dream

so we now get enemy, ogryn-sized arbites

complete with heretic cyberdawg

[zealous wing]

and my guess is arby dog will get yeeted

[cosmic sigil]

So we need to undog the dog now

"This weapon also applies a debuff to players, so getting hit will not just hurt, but also leave you with a speed reduction and slower dodge replenishment" 30 toxin dots later...

[thorn cedar]

oh im very ready for this

got too many games to juggle rn aaaah

deadlock, bf6, darktide, and sts2

[analog apex]

mood: Darktide, Hunt, Diablo4, ARCraiders, Mewgenics

and then for honor is in the corner calling to me like the green goblin mask

[deft stump]

1500 packmaster kills...

I hate this.

[radiant frigate]

no

packmaster is a boss

not an elite

[deft stump]

Oh?

[radiant frigate]

Ye

[deft stump]

So no new penances.

Just a nerf to arby.

Kay.

[radiant frigate]

yeah but fuck the space police

[deft stump]

Wait. 1500 armoured pox hounds.

[radiant frigate]

only come with the packmaster

[deft stump]

Yes, most bs penances.

[restive grail]

how accessible is psyker flame staff build? could my hamster use the build effectively?

🤔

[wraith sphinx]

yes! it's a very very simple build to pull off

[jovial juniper]

Yeah

Even sleep on the mouse

And be effective

[deft stump]

You mean micronapping.

If you hear your char periling, just press ult.

[ripe obsidian]

It's got a fairly low skill floor, so easy enough to jump into. If you're using Inferno + Bubble, at least. Inferno + Shriek has more skill expression and more impact on the gamestate, imo, but requires better positioning

With that in mind, I'd say maybe 1 in 5 inferno psykers I see in Havoc are any good.

Not counting people I know. Just randoms.

according to a secondhand comment on reddit, the packmaster steals the Arby's dog and sticks it in a bag

[deft stump]

So, Dogless Arby is the way.

[ripe obsidian]

I think you're fine if you don't sic the doggo on the packmaster

[deft stump]

You know the doggo will just run to it.

[stone canyon]

Thats why my psyker is failing subhavoc

[ripe obsidian]

2 of those 5 will spam LMB instead of using RMB, and will basically be cosplaying a Smyker. The other 2 just do nothing and die.

[stone canyon]

I forgot where my quell button is 🤷‍♂️

[ripe obsidian]

the quell button is F, because you're a real psyker and you use shriek

[stone canyon]

I had shriek that same game and blew up as mutie stopped me from using it

[marble crater]

Pro tip, don't let mutie touch you, if you are in the peril overload animation

[stone canyon]

Yeah lesson learned

Though, i think i just suck at psyker and should play the other classes

[marble crater]

Maybe, how long have you been playing psyker?

[stone canyon]

About 6 games in past two years, leveled it 2023 december

Inferno was least favourite staff then

[radiant frigate]

inferno still is least favorite

[stone canyon]

Now its meta, so thats also unappealing

[marble crater]

Well in that case it's too early to say if you actually suck at it or simply lack the experience to be good at it yet

[stone canyon]

Often my failing havoc teams miss psyker, but long road ahead If i was to take mine there

[dire wharf]

I'm just a dog and I'm doing ok using that

[stone canyon]

It feels lame to use, just spam general direction and they die eventually

[dire wharf]

Which one is your favorite

[marble crater]

Inferno is very boring to play indeed, very strong, but boring

[timber moon]

I use inferno for my sprinty duder build just because it's fun slinging flames while running at mach 10 speed, then backstabbing them from behind with a dinky knife.

[radiant frigate]

voidstrike

[timber moon]

It's one of the few builds I use inferno for, since every other build I have uses every other staff for a variety of reasons, exception of my op Smyker build I hold.

[marble crater]

[radiant frigate]

i also enjoy the occasional trauma or surge

[timber moon]

I am sad that inferno is the only staff with a different primary attack than just throwing space balls at people.

[radiant frigate]

so what's everyone else's gripes with the event, if any

[marble crater]

They are called voidblast and elektro now, you old elf

Get with the times

[timber moon]

Personal favorite? Electric staff. It's good stun potential and it works for crowd control. People tend to sleep the hell on that staff. It's got damn good range and you'll be surprised how far it can go.

[radiant frigate]

for me it's that i don't really get to play because it invariably devolves into kaboom

and i do not find that interesting

[marble crater]

Skill issue, not being able to push bursters or dodge crushers

[timber moon]

Best staff for me? I think voidblast is actually better at clearing crowds than inferno, especially for quick damage. It can still stack soulblaze too and it is fifty times faster and can be brought up in a flash.

[radiant frigate]

i will continue using my ancient spellbook thank you very much

[timber moon]

Inferno is only meta because it interacts with the soulblaze aspects of Psyker and has a quick attack that acts decently well to pushing back hordes, but for me having a voidblast is so useful for dealing with really awful situations.

[dire wharf]

Before the event I was pretty bad at dodging crusher attacks, but theyre almost trivial now it seems

[timber moon]

Like there are times where not even inferno won't be able to save you.

[timber moon]

Buster pushing is only an issue because they are always behind crushers, and also their bugs... tons of bugs.

[marble crater]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-read-reading-grimoire-frieren-gif-12061143854936119690

This you?

[radiant frigate]

Yes

[timber moon]

I don't think the crushers are that big of a deal, but they can be annoying. I usually bring my (frankly OP) smyker build because I want to get the event out of the way and to help anyone else who wants to get the event done.

[marble crater]

Best training

[timber moon]

I just can't wait for the event to be over so I can focus on playing other builds without needing to fall back on a smyker build (most of the time)

[dire wharf]

I still haven't ranked this one up, outside of the whitr one un Brunt's armoury I ever see that anywhere else or have gotten one at the end of a mission

[timber moon]

I wouldn't really mind this event if it wasn't for bursters being so busted rn

[radiant frigate]

for me i think it does the opposite

[marble crater]

Yeah sometimes burster timings are evil

[radiant frigate]

i find new and interesting ways to die

like for example crusher train phasing through me and boxing me in

[timber moon]

I have so much footage of that bullshit

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/mfq9yfxPMmMsuBuOS?invite=cr-MSxsRU4sNTI3ODIwNzAz&v=28

[radiant frigate]

I DO NOT WANT TO GET ON THE CRUSHER COUCH

[timber moon]

This is the most tame footage I have of this event btw.

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/mcxz4QQEcTmXJQwET?invite=cr-MSxseE8sNTI3ODIwNzAz&v=25

If it wasn't for Stance I would have blown up twice over in this footage.

It's fucking crazy.

[marble crater]

https://tenor.com/view/halo-halo-ce-halo-flood-flood-halo-ce-flood-gif-11769272410991336551

Same energy

[timber moon]

That but they deal half damage every time they touch you.

Half health of your damage

[marble crater]

Half your health as damage?

[timber moon]

Lmfao

People hate this outside the game but love it when I bring it in-game for some reason, but this is the smyker build I bring often for this event
https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/mfnt7DlAHkGPeWDi-?invite=cr-MSxuSGwsNTI3ODIwNzAz&v=60

Believe me my team would have been through hell if it wasn't for the smite. It's stupid OP (mostly because it's a Mister E build that I borrowed. Fun build, def broken)

(Needs fucking nerfed bad but at least it saves games from becoming a burster hell, especially in this event)

[dire wharf]

This plague ogryn bursts out of this hole in the wall, so I got curious to see if I could go in said hole in the wall. And then some crushers also followed me inside 😤

[marble crater]

I guess I can forgive using smite for this event

[timber moon]

Lmfao nah hate me as much as you want. I do love how people react to it, both out of game and in-game. It's like entirely different sides of the same coin. In-game people are either impressed or love it to high hell (considering it saves asses and just looks cool), and out of game people fucking despise it.

Then again Discord is a miserable place so the night and day thing is pretty understandable. Plus it is fucking busted and I don't bring it out often for that reason alone, even though I love the build personally speaking

[rich spindle]

This one was avoidable if you dodged back left behind the wall

[radiant frigate]

i also despise it in-game if it's just
held down

TWO OF THEM

[timber moon]

Yeah I know I just didn't expect the entire horde since I was still new to the event during the time, and I'm not partically angry it's just fucking insane sometimes.

Again, Stance saved my ass there.

[timber moon]

Lmfao the anti-fun squad.

I usually drop smite if it's not needed or generally dealing with a boss.

[dire wharf]

The other night I'm charging across a bridge to meet a crusher train head on, and my controller batteries died. Smite psyker held them off, literally inches from my face while I replaced the batteries

[timber moon]

Since monstrosities are immune to the effect.

[timber moon]

Good psyker.

https://tenor.com/view/darktide-warhammer-40k-warhammer-40k-psyker-gif-4777251650916725445

He knew the assignment and got it done.

[marble crater]

I don't despise smite or the people who use it, if played well it's very good and even if played badly it's still strong. I just prefer to play without the type of person who uses it all the time for everything, makes the mission boring and often you will also have to babysit the person who uses it in such a way, because they rely on it too much and then things go south if they are in a situation where they can't use it

[timber moon]

Honestly the best psykers are ones that can just save people's asses by existing, and not just smite I mean like just actually keeping the team safe. I honestly feel safe as much as I do with a psyker as much as I do with an ogryn.

[marble crater]

I have seen too many people die trying to smite while they are surrounded by poxwalkers hitting them

[timber moon]

When I bring that build, I use it very often but I don't rely on it, since it can be pretty shitty to drop it and suddenly die. The only time I fuck up with it is if someone is behind me and I wasn't paying attention. My fault usually in those cases. Most of the time though I usually use it to help the team.

[wraith sphinx]

my fav thing do to as a psyker main is to pocket a decent ogryn player 😄

[timber moon]

This is why you dodge while smiting

It's the fastest way you can move and it's also fucking useful for avoiding bad situations.

[marble crater]

Tell them

[timber moon]

You have a dodge button, use it. It can be used while smiting so I use it as the primary movement option.

[timber moon]

I pocket everyone. Everyone is protected under my insane mind powers. The warp's gonna be mad they can't feast on my soul tonight, because they protecc me as much as I protecc them :D

[radiant frigate]

my favorite thing to do is unmake heretics with fgs

[timber moon]

My favorite thing to do is to get my headpopper psyker with double shield and just go to town popping elites while electicuting hordes with my electro staff

[radiant frigate]

(other large-sized bladed implements also ok)

[timber moon]

It's so fun popping hordes of elites with brain burst. You'd be shocked how damn good it can be when you build around it.

And with FGS with that build, it's practically my most fun build.

I love it to death.

I'm still trying to work on my speedy build but legit been having fun with that too even though it's a pretty damn weak build.

[wraith sphinx]

I try to keep to one specific teammate so I don't get accidentally left behind in confusion, since randoms love to, well, randomly spread out

Anyways gonna go play a mission as my voidstrike smyker build before sleep 😈

[timber moon]

Yeah I getcha. I usually just try to be as self-reliant as possible unless it's Havoc, where everyone already understands the assignment to stick as a team.

[timber moon]

I need to level up my voidstrike...

[wraith sphinx]

Voidstrike is fun I love it's flow

awesome magic railgun

[timber moon]

I really want to use it more often, especially with my assil reaper psychonic build

[marble crater]

I hope you thanked thar ogryn

[dire wharf]

I gave him my share of rations

[marble crater]

Good

[dire wharf]

But yeah that was a very welcome sight

[marble crater]

I'm surprised you survived for as long as you did before he showed up

[dire wharf]

That is actually tame to what happened on the first day of the event. Separated from the group, in a dead end with 10 crushers

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/walter-white-hal-strong-men-gif-21189652

[dire wharf]

Thats how i got the 20 dodge penance

[marble crater]

[timber moon]

Ogryn: The weakest class with the most selfish and god-tier players behind them. You always can feel safe around an Ogryn

[spiral fiber]

Is the mind witchs psi conductive armor of redemption really worth 1.55 million dockets

[jovial juniper]

You say that as if I remember names

[wraith sphinx]

asking for objective opinion on cosmetics

[spiral fiber]

Hmm the one with the whitr and green hood

[spiral fiber]

Nah asking for a sanity check before i spend my psykers retirement on a costume

[long saddle]

you eventually buy everything anyway

because there's nothing to spend credits on after a while

[wraith sphinx]

yup

who cares

if you've got it flaunt it nobody else will care

[long saddle]

I think I have 1 mil plasteel, 400k diamantine

but melk bucks I keep gambling so I have like none

[spiral fiber]

Got members of the elite class here . Im judt a middle class laborer. Casting my magic for an hourly

But i get your point

[spice aurora]

i still try to get green skulls when im last alive in h40 cause 50 plasteel is around 1/4th of what an entire damnation mission would give when game came out

no i dont have a problem

[ripe obsidian]

you and me both

I need all the crafting stuff

[wraith sphinx]

I'm long past caring myself but since picked up materials are shared I always pick em up to help others out

[ripe obsidian]

but

number can go up

[hallow vector]

i never have dia

[timber moon]

To spite the people who hated my smyker gameplay, he's me doing the event legit and finishing it off.

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/mfKmRvZmHdld_Xwac?invite=cr-MSxGSzQsNTI3ODIwNzAz&v=60

jkjk but still

Also legit question but does mind in motion allow for running while quelling, or is it specifically just walking speed?

Nvm just tested and it doesn't do that

Shame

[hallow vector]

damn

[hallow vector]

just doesnt slow down walking

i think you can slide with it still

sliding is movement meta for psyker

[zealous wing]

you can slide without it thats for sure

[dire wharf]

Slide to the left

[timber moon]

Obviously

I slide all the time with psyker

[zinc phoenix]

So did they launch the ogstrosity or is that still a TBD thing

[thorn cedar]

tbd

[jovial juniper]

They released summoner ogryn first

[timber moon]

I swear to god this event is the reason why smyker exists. Literally being put into unwinnable situations every fucking time (before this point, I crashed and ended up respawning in the tied state, someone went to revive me, someone else went down leaving two of us, then an entire bulwark horde came while a plague ogryn came down too, leaving me to have to run to survive. But oops, I kept being knocked around by plague ogryn while I was trying to get speedboost, and then oopsies there were fire all around me and I ended up fucking dying. We legit tried our best. This is bullshit)

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/mfMjdr8ZOuFaZ0GYL?invite=cr-MSxKMDEsNTI3ODIwNzAz&v=60

This probobly wouldn't have happened if

• I didn't crash. Legit this game keeps crashing on me and at this point I am so fucking tired of it.
• If the bulwark hordes didn't come in during that one kill hallway.
• If plague ogryn didn't come in.
• If I didn't spawn in the "tied up by a sacrifical alter" state
• If I brought my OP builds like smyker inf or headpopper extreme. I am trying to avoid doing those because I already finished with the event and I'm trying to play around with my speedster build.
• If quick play didn't fucking pull me into that FUCKING EVENT AGAIN

[zealous wing]

pull the plogryn back, stab to death. use infernos high suppression on reapers

i stab plogryns to death with knife all the time on my trauma build, also great on event

[timber moon]

There were rangers everywhere, I would have no chance at fighting back regardless, and it was a speedster build not really meant to tank well.

[zealous wing]

my fidget build is also meant for speed

[timber moon]

I tried my damn best mate.

This event is legit bullshit

[zealous wing]

and im offering advice

[timber moon]

I getcha

[zealous wing]

when theres a boss on your ass, dont loop towards more enemies

[timber moon]

I tried looping away from enemies

That was the thing

[zealous wing]

plogryns are the easiest to duel, learn their patterns

chaos spawns are fucking nightmares

[timber moon]

I am aware

I wouldn't be so fucking pissed off if this event didn't keep throwing me into impossible to win situations, and also I didn't crash every fucking minute regardless of what settings I put this game at

I swear to god even without mods this game has such a major memory leak issue it's pissing me off.

[rich spindle]

Don’t get mad at me but that was far from an impossible situation

[verbal thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/dogdiesamengodbless-gif-23866738

[zealous wing]

you did try to loop back across the bridge which is where the enemies were, which is why i mentioned it, but you were also stressed, likely

[timber moon]

You should have seen earlier. Sadly I only set medal for one minute recordings

[timber moon]

Very, especially with LMS popping off and I didn't notice them at the bridge until it was too late

I was already low toughness from trying to escape, rangers everywhere. I had no chance and I knew it as soon as I saw the two rangers

The bulwark horde was fucking relentless following the plague ogryn. I wish I recorded that

[verbal thistle]

Do you know that you can disable peril sfx?

[timber moon]

That's not causing the crashing

[verbal thistle]

I know

[timber moon]

Peril SFX doesn't bother me tbh

It's very useful for telling if I am hitting too high on peril if I am too focused on every other enemy

Especially with scrier's gaze which I try to manage for the speedster build

[ripe obsidian]

Fwiw, I duo'd a full event mission without a Smyker. Me on melee scum + doggo arby.

Smite isn't necessary

[zealous wing]

if i may, i have found trauma to be far more versatile for my speed build as a "oh shit theres ogryns" stick

[timber moon]

I am jealous of you people who can handle this event without going fucking insane

[zealous wing]

rather than inferno, which, without a proper tree, can struggle pretty bad to do much

blazing trauma if you can get a couple fire nodes/already have them, rending if not

[timber moon]

I use inferno for mostly brittle stacks and run and gun, I don't use it as my primary unless my scrier's gaze popped off or it's an emergency

[zealous wing]

we've dealt with rotten armour

then rending is your go to

applies brittle as well as crowd control

[timber moon]

Rending is on my knife, but I'm going to adjust it

[zealous wing]

rending trauma

not rending in general

[ripe obsidian]

The common wisdom in here is that Rending Trauma + Shriek is stonker than blazing trauma. At least in Havoc

[rich spindle]

Its a pretty bad event, they’re throwing havoc level densities of ogryns at the average darktide player with the expectation that they’ll skip every fight by spamming rockets and kraks

[timber moon]

This isn't Havoc, and I'm not trying to go for Shriek and Rending Truama. It's a silly speedster build meant to be fast as fuck.

[timber moon]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/mfq9yfxPMmMsuBuOS?invite=cr-MSwyRnEsNTI3ODIwNzAz&v=28

Not just ogryns

Bursters

So many fucking bursters

[zealous wing]

we have burster maelstroms, its the same thing

[rich spindle]

Have you played waves of bursters maelstrom before

[zealous wing]

civi for crusher spam as well

[timber moon]

I am not a Havoc 40 regular and despite knowing how to push and dodge it gets beyond hellish especially when they bug out

[timber moon]

Barely, and even then it's never been this bad

NEVER BEEN THIS BAD

[rich spindle]

Yeah it’s not good design for normal players with a life

Consequences of power creep

This is what we’re stuck with now

[timber moon]

Fatshark, please balance your game I beg of you

[timber moon]

The bug where bursters don't explode when they get near you and you shove them pisses me off the most

[zealous wing]

this is true and annoying, its because they're targeting someone else

[thorn cedar]

not always

[zealous wing]

its why i want to learn trauma more intricately, can push them no matter what if you aim right

[thorn cedar]

thats one reason but sometimes they are juts broken for no reason lol

[zealous wing]

but if you aim wrong... BOOM

[timber moon]

People are like "Oh do this this and that" but when the skill that I have the capability of doesn't fucking function under such random bullshit makes me pissed off the most

I've opted to cheat and either go full smyker, or use shit like inferno, electric staff, or Psyker blitz like assil and head popper to prevent that from even being an issue

[rich spindle]

It’s gonna be information overload like that a lot of the time

[timber moon]

They cannot hurt me if they aren't near me

[rich spindle]

But every time you experience it you get better at parsing it

[radiant frigate]

woe, ranged damage be upon ye

[timber moon]

I know, but there are times it becomes an impossible situation

[radiant frigate]

maybe i should add trauma to my build

[rich spindle]

There are very few truly impossible situations in the game

[verbal thistle]

That's the appeal of the tide games

[timber moon]

I don't play Havoc 40, I'm not attuned to bullshit, and even then I am trying to quick play to anything else but the event but everyone is still playing the event in-masse in the highest difficulty for some fucking reason

[radiant frigate]

because fighting a gorillion crushers is fun

the bulwarks perhaps less so

[timber moon]

Isn't the appeal of the tide game is challenging L4D gameplay with melee focus, not insane bullshit impossible situations that you have to specifically build for?

I play Vermintide 2 and yet I never feel like I get fucked over from anything out of my control.

[thorn cedar]

-laughs in blightstormer combo tossing you into a hookrat-

[timber moon]

L+smite+Idontgiveashit+ifnotsmitethenthepowerofextracheese

[rich spindle]

Gorillion elites in a blob that all die in 1 hit is becoming my least favorite thing in game 😔

[timber moon]

Oh yeah rare moment of bullshit, but it's so fucking preventable

[radiant frigate]

what about getting grabbed by a leech out of a blightstorm

[timber moon]

Like it's easy to prevent a Blight stormed spam and you can always see it coming

[radiant frigate]

roket :)

[timber moon]

The amount of times blightstormer helped rather than hinder is shockingly a lot.

Always stay out of their circle it's not that hard

[timber moon]

I fucking love that sword so much

[radiant frigate]

X
if they throw you anywhere near anything that wants to smack you you're almost defenseless

[timber moon]

I have it reserved for my head pop Psyker and it's legit amazing

[radiant frigate]

slowed, taking damage, stamina nuked

[timber moon]

Trust me I'll take a blightstormer over trappers anyday

Mutants are the closest you'll get to a blightstormer in terms of duality. Mutants shockingly have saved my ass a few times

[radiant frigate]

trapper is hookrat equivalent though

[thorn cedar]

and i find trapper much easier than hookrat with their low gangly ass profile

[timber moon]

Hookrat can be dodged as much as trapper, but it has to get much closer and it can't slam through hordes as easily without dying from a cracked out player

Two trappers behind fifty crushers is unwinnable especially if you are in a hallway and you don't have room to back up

And a hook rat is so fucking audible it's funny

[ripe obsidian]

a trapper killed me last night by netting me through 2 bosses and like 8 bulwarks.

[timber moon]

I can hear that thing from a mile away

[ripe obsidian]

Trappers netting through a horde is pretty shitty

[timber moon]

Like you can actually hear a hook rat

[thorn cedar]

yea so like

what youre saying for vt2
is what were saying for dt

youll get there

[timber moon]

Can you hear a trapper right before they are about to fire? No.

I honestly wish they got a rattling sound when they moved, so I can predict where they are and react instead of having to rely on a mod and my eyes to track their exact location

[verbal thistle]

I can track trappers

[thorn cedar]

you can lol

[radiant frigate]

i mean maybe it would be easier to hear them if you weren't blasting music at full volume

[thorn cedar]

you can hear everything they do

soundcue when they spawn, laugh while they run, electric windup before they fire, actual firing sound, bark when they run off

[timber moon]

Noted then. I might be stupid

I'll try to practice with them with music off and see how it goes. I might just be listening to music too high and missing out on sound cues

[radiant frigate]

almost certainly in fact

[timber moon]

My dumbass autistic brain wants music but I desire to get better.

[radiant frigate]

the soundscape is pretty important

it gives you a lot of information

[timber moon]

Sometimes the soundscape for the game fucks up even when I played the game normally.

It isn't too bad as I can still hear mostly everything, but still it can be frankly annoying

[ripe obsidian]

yes

you can

[timber moon]

But the music blasting, I admit fault on that shit and I really need to stop with that shit

[dull scroll]

silent trapper hasn't been a thing thankfully

silent other things though 😒

[ripe obsidian]

well

[radiant frigate]

silent burster, on the other hand

[ripe obsidian]

I will say that sorta silent trappers happen

[timber moon]

I have no idea how I kept missing their soundcues before I started to just listen to music and use Spidysense

[dull scroll]

the point blank trappers are the real kicker

[ripe obsidian]

Sound cues are prioritized for the target, so if the target dodges and you're in the line of fire of the net, you might not get a sound cue.

[timber moon]

Like I could almost never hear trapper before then

[timber moon]

Are you fucking kidding me...

Why not make it global?!

[radiant frigate]

probematic for snipers

[thorn cedar]

that would be horrific

[timber moon]

I can see a sniper's laser at least

[radiant frigate]

so you do not panic dodge into a net not meant for you

sensory overload

[timber moon]

Hook rat: