#psyker-class

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deft stump
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So... you can see.

radiant mesa
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Ight so like, fair question, what blessings y'all be using on fgs

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And am I an idiot for using unstable power

deft stump
rigid sky
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unstable power is ideal especially with assail

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free power

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I like riposte but shred might be better idk

deft stump
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If unstable power is that 5% str per 20% peril 20% max one.

radiant mesa
deft stump
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Go bonk bosses.

radiant mesa
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And wrath is bad, right?

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We don't need cleave on the greatsword right?

rigid sky
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heard it helps on havoc but idk

radiant mesa
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Now on some real shit, shred or unstable

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I'm using a SG build and ion wanna take off blazing spirit

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Doing some goofy shit with soulblaze and malefic momentum

deft stump
radiant mesa
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Gotcha

rigid sky
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always take unstable imo

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never take blazing spirit

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on anything that isn't voidblast

radiant mesa
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I'm taking blazing spirit ggbignod

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I'm doing some bullshit

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Promise

rigid sky
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I wish it was a thing but every weapon that can apply it generally kills on crits anyway idk

deft stump
radiant mesa
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This is my vile creature I cooked up over the span of 30 minutes

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Plans to use recon las and fgs with blazing spirit to apply lots of fire for malefic

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It worked pretty well in the training area ngl

rigid sky
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in a sense, inferno has blazing spirit built in because it adds extra stacks on a crit

rigid sky
# radiant mesa

ngl I hate it but there's a decent chance you're just cooking something my brain is too smooth to understand

radiant mesa
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LMFAO

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It's ub

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Uh

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It's something that's for sure

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Heresy testing here I come

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(also it's like 40 seconds of uptime on SG)

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If ur getting kills and shit

subtle steeple
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I've been wondering for a while if scrier's works with inferno

radiant mesa
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I'm not using inferno Sitgryn

deft stump
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Really spicy with peril juggling though.

radiant mesa
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Recon las and fgs, playing melee psyker

deft stump
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Don't ask why I know

rigid sky
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Can just lean on warp unbound

deft stump
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Or ehm, I made a meleeker build for someone and forgot to swap back.

subtle steeple
radiant mesa
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Warp unbound is peak

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I love sitting at 100% peril for the entire game KEKW_ogryn

deft stump
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So I entered a game and was... what is my ult? Where vent???

subtle steeple
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It's so fun hearing the demons all game ā¤ļø

radiant mesa
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As a console player, I've installed the anti warp effect mod with my mind

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I just physically don't see it anymore

deft stump
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In settings.

radiant mesa
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That's a setting???

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Wait what

deft stump
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It also deletes all other class effects barring scum.

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Because FS potato.

subtle steeple
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Damn

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When scum is the worst

radiant mesa
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I suppose I'ma leave it on

deft stump
radiant mesa
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I like the visual aid and whatknot

deft stump
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It also lowers the volume.

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Because FS potato no 2 settings for it.

subtle steeple
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I don't have much trouble with the screen effects in this game, I'm used to other games being worse with that but between the screen turning green, the shaking and the fumes idk why HS went live like that

radiant mesa
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I'll mention I play this game without audio

deft stump
subtle steeple
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Without... Audio ?

deft stump
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I play on 20%.

radiant mesa
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Yeah when people complain about silent crushers and shit

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I'm just like

deft stump
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So some effects but not flashbang

radiant mesa
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So every single one?

subtle steeple
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H-How

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How do you hear bursters coming ???

radiant mesa
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Same way you play with sound

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Bursters have a sound??

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I just watch corners for the lil glow

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They got a funny orange hue around em

subtle steeple
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I-I'll go lie down a bit

radiant mesa
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This is probably why trappers and dogs are the bane of my existence

subtle steeple
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I'm too old for this

radiant mesa
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I bet those guys make a lot of noise

subtle steeple
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My tension is too high

radiant mesa
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I LIKE MY MUSIC

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It's good music

deft stump
radiant mesa
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Why listen to the screams of heretics when, music

subtle steeple
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Because the heretics will kill you 😭

rigid sky
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Darktide music is awesome though

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I mean sometimes I have a podcast on when I play but I still have sounds on at same time

radiant mesa
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Maybe this is why I'm hard stuck damnation

subtle steeple
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It might be yeah

radiant mesa
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Knowing damn well I don't care to go higher

subtle steeple
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Well, if you're fine with it, I don't think sound makes much of a difference in damnation so you should be good !

radiant mesa
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I suppose I'll unmute the game

subtle steeple
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Your life will change

radiant mesa
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Is this gonna be like when I discovered how to block push

subtle steeple
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Yeeeeeessss

rigid sky
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It'll also make you like some weapons a lot more

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Like bolters, and voidstrike

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Voidstrike isn't the best, but the delayed SMACK sound of it hitting a cluster of shotgunner heads is just exquisite

dire wharf
subtle steeple
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Oh my god the sound of bolters

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It's soooo good

rigid sky
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Makes you genuinely believe in the emperor for a moment

subtle steeple
deft stump
subtle steeple
deft stump
subtle steeple
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"To question is to doubt"

deft stump
radiant mesa
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Ight so

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I'm doing my garbage build in the event

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And it's kinda cookin

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Just need to use a different gun, maybe swap mks on my recon

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Nobody has ever been able to answer me properly, does sustained fire and punishing salvo reset after every 4 shots

deft stump
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Gotta burst fire.

radiant mesa
deft stump
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They are the opposite of blaze away where you wanna just hold trigger.

summer prairie
radiant mesa
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Blaze away on recon las when

radiant mesa
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Did your game crash lmfao?

summer prairie
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no I ended the recording because my framerate was dead anyway

radiant mesa
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LMFAO

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Peak

summer prairie
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i survived that of course

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shame you didn't see it

radiant mesa
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Definitely

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I completely believe that

dire wharf
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How do I get good enough to play auric maelsyrom, just keep playing?

cosmic sigil
cosmic sigil
cosmic sigil
ripe obsidian
deft stump
ripe obsidian
icy breach
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Thats it

ripe obsidian
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So long as you have space to move, you're significantly more mobile than any enemy. If you end up backing into a wall or a corner, you're taking away your biggest advantage

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Sometimes it doesn't work out, and sometimes the director screws you with bombers or a wall of bulwarks

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As for sustained fire:

"The blessing is active again only after leaving the active shooting state (i.e. when weapon sway and spread have reset fully after firing)."

dire wharf
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@cosmic sigil @ripe obsidian thank you

dire wharf
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Increasing controller sensitivity has been huge too, I can actually check my back fast now

ripe obsidian
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It's also why it's a good idea to have at least one person on your team who can reliably make space. So Trauma Psyker, BtL Arby, Tauntgryn, etc. Because even the best players will make mistakes or be forced into bad corners sometimes

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So having someone who can compensate for such mistakes is invaluable

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It's another reason why Shriek is better than Bubble

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Shriek will stagger things and give you a moment to breathe

deft stump
ripe obsidian
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With bubble, you get cornered and cry

icy breach
ripe obsidian
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Karien's carryin'

deft stump
icy breach
deft stump
ripe obsidian
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Trauma + Shriek is quite good at clearing space. Downside is that Trauma does so little damage without Soulblaze

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Like 900-1100 damage on a mostly charged RMB

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Takes like 6 RMBs to kill an Auric crusher. 2x that for Havoc

deft stump
ripe obsidian
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6 assuming you hit the same Crusher with the center of the blast

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Which is often pretty misleading

deft stump
ripe obsidian
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I'd love to have a Trauma variant that did way more focused damage

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Like, small AoE but double the damage on the center target

ripe obsidian
icy breach
ripe obsidian
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Flurry + Rending is better against heavy targets, sure. Because Trauma has 80% ADM on flak and carapace

deft stump
ripe obsidian
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But Blazing Trauma has a better time against mixed hordes and ranged enemies

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It's a matter of preference and what you want to kill faster

deft stump
icy breach
icy breach
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Shriek clears spread out chaf

ripe obsidian
icy breach
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So does fast charging blasts

hoary mauve
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yea, i sometmes wish people would let me explode all the barrels first, but everybody rushes so I don't. then it's almost guranteed that someone gets barrelled off lol

ripe obsidian
icy breach
deft stump
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Mostly cos that is low peril anyway.

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Or flat chunks like assail.

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Easy to count shots.

ripe obsidian
deft stump
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More so at 280 ping since US West.

ripe obsidian
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A single RMB is like 20% peril

deft stump
ripe obsidian
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EK has an RMB?

icy breach
deft stump
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Pepperidge farms remembers.

ripe obsidian
dull scroll
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gotta min-cast with r-tap
this rotation and you'll edge forever
ER isn't needed

icy breach
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Ppl undervalue RMB on EK its criminal…

ripe obsidian
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I have an ER build and non-ER build for Trauma. I use the ER one more just because without ER I am dangerously edging constantly

ripe obsidian
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Depends on how much brain I want to use

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Usually I do not want to brain

deft stump
dull scroll
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it's pretty brainless, unless you want to greed more than min-cast, then all bets are off Guarded

deft stump
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I'm about to go another 10%+WS stacks peril reduction.

icy breach
ripe obsidian
deft stump
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But sacrificing KD reeeeeeeeeeee

dull scroll
ripe obsidian
ripe obsidian
dull scroll
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one thing I learned VB is dogwater vs ranged units

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especially reapers

icy breach
deft stump
deft stump
icy breach
dull scroll
dull scroll
deft stump
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I went to it cos BB wasn't one shotting crushers.

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On WS without literally hitting max everything.

icy breach
icy breach
ripe obsidian
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I can do that when I get home

ripe obsidian
dull scroll
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I was just thinking about that, I can greed those two points for something else now I think about it

rigid sky
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Yeah rending shockwave build doesn't focus crit at all

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Crits are bad at base on it too iirc

icy breach
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Not dmg spreading

ripe obsidian
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I mistyped

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+5% crit chance

deft stump
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I feel like once you see the nightmare I run on my trauma, you all will gain san damage.

icy breach
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Only that really

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Crit is… just there

icy breach
deft stump
icy breach
ripe obsidian
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On the topic of Wildfire and damage, if an enemy has 1 stack of Soulblaze and you Shriek them, the damage is 33% higher than just shriek.

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6 stacks is 24 base damage. 7 is 32

icy breach
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Ye but its still minimal

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Thats the issue

zealous wing
dull scroll
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my new build now, tankiness is going through the roof 😌

icy breach
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% is good; base value is oof

deft stump
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I forgot is now common pathed.

icy breach
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And use your Brain Rupture

dull scroll
icy breach
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Shit has 1.25 adm vs unyielding

zealous wing
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ill load up an h40 psyk and test there to confirm

zealous wing
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wont work on CC immune obviously

deft stump
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I had to sacrfice KD in the end.

zealous wing
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but before they get tolled or sometrhing it seems to work all the way up through auric and h17, which is the highest i've tested so far

icy breach
deft stump
icy breach
deft stump
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And yeah, that's blaze trauma.

deft stump
dull scroll
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master the edge and you shall not blow up

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ever

zealous wing
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huh

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heya

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so

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hmm

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meme might be h40 viable

ripe obsidian
dull scroll
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that rotation is too OP

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the 30% solidarity is needed actually, might screw the rotation if greeded

icy breach
zealous wing
ripe obsidian
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As I mentioned, I don't have issues running it without ER. I do it in H40 regularly. It's just a matter of how little I want to use my brain. Without ER I have to be more aware of my peril

zealous wing
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rending trauma, with surge

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i can reliably suppress non-cc-immune enemies, but also take them out if necessary

deft stump
zealous wing
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if i could get myself off of ER, it'd free up 3 points for me to use

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but every time i take it off, my muscle memory fucks me over

deft stump
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Because I kept hitting perils.

dull scroll
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looks like ES is also back on the menu for even the trauma staff for me šŸ˜

dull scroll
deft stump
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Oh, that. I can't hit projectiles at 280+ ping. Burny stick is RNG enough like flamer is. XD

ripe obsidian
dull scroll
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šŸ˜

zealous wing
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not on main builds but on this build im engineering specifically for my playstyle... its doing well

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it makes six sad

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this is what i have at the moment, and six weeps and that makes me laugh

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but everything is being very carefully thought out

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every point has a reason to be where it is

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if only ER was closer, i dont need solidity or the minor range damage node Sitgryn

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hmm although...

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i could test with battlemed and the minor peril generation node, might free up one point for me if i can be just as cozy with -20% generation rather than the -40%

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biggest downside might be the quelling on battle med so testing indeed

deft stump
icy breach
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  • Brain Rupture with EP covers for that reaper weakness you had thumbsup_ogryn
dull scroll
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More shriek is 100x more OP

icy breach
icy breach
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Since Flayer benefits from EP without consuming the stacks + it achieves very important breakpoints

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And thats me saying it - i’m not into ā€šbreakpoints are everything’ type of a dude

ripe obsidian
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Breakpoints are too much effort

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I tend to lean into talents that make the game easier for me to play. Hence Quietude over Empyric Shock on EK LMB, or Empyric Resolve on Trauma. Mathematically optimal, probably not, but they allow me to relax a little more

tulip kettle
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good evening gentlemen

ripe obsidian
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It's 11am

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You're in the future.

tulip kettle
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3 months in the future >.>

zealous wing
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OH MY GOD

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DOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

tulip kettle
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i just went to the corner shops for some milk

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warp based time fuckery obviously occured

zealous wing
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i could use some good fuckin news

marble crater
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Welcome back KEKW_ogryn

tulip kettle
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im glad to be back with yall, even if i dont have much time for discord at the moment :)

deft stump
icy breach
zealous wing
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amalgamation, yes, abomination, perhaps, but its working

icy breach
zealous wing
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main thing im missing is malefic momentum for some extra knife damage for when i need it, or some extra assail damage when im weaving, because if im weaving i need the assistance

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so if i can make do with -20% peril gen (i seem to be doing fine), maybe i can make do with -10%, then back down to none, freeing up 2 more points total

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for trauma specifically

tall cipher
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meow

verbal thistle
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H40 solo Melee psyker

Attempts: 266

Deaths:
Mauler: 66
Trapper: 22
Dog: 12
Crusher: 44
Shooters: 16
Reaper: 14
Rodin: 2
Cspawn: 14
Burster: 8
Shotgunners: 8
Rager: 4
Mutant: 9
PotW: 5
Sniper: 11
Gunner: 8
Bulwark: 7
Poxwalkers: 3
Flamer: 7
Captain: 2
Bomber: 1
Plasma: 4
BoN: 1

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almost got a run yesterday

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its always the 1st trys of the day that gets the furthest

marble crater
ripe obsidian
wraith sphinx
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266 attempts holy shit

verbal thistle
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It's honestly very fun

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It's been so long since I actually tried so hard

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The only times I get annoyed is bulwarks and BoN

frail oar
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No gravity deaths? CAP

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Gravity is unbeaten

verbal thistle
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I almost died once to fall damage

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I think I lived with 5 hp

tall solar
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i have had areally bad idea

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how long can i hold RMB with a sword and not take damage

verbal thistle
tall solar
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taking damage is for nerds

tall solar
# thorn cedar very long

well if i stack every single peril-reducing thing possible on a deflector IV force sword with 80% warp res and scryer's gaze

thorn cedar
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blockmaxxing means taking stam and block eff on the sword, three stam curios with block eff, take every peril reduction node on the tree + ER and warp charges

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and ofc kinetic def on the tree

tall solar
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obviously

thorn cedar
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you basically cannot be block broken

tall solar
thorn cedar
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nah

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unnecessary

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just take shriek

tall solar
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im subbing that in because i dont have a bunch of baller curios

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sadly

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my curios are MID

ripe obsidian
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We are all mid except Ainz

tall solar
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and they are mostly toughness and stamina because i am POOR and OF MIDDILING SWAG

thorn cedar
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oh yea

tall solar
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like, obviously

thorn cedar
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yea both

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i forgot it gets block eff now

tall solar
thorn cedar
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and by now i mean like two years ago or something lmao

tall solar
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we HAVE to take the block ranged attacks thing

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if only because it feels right

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like

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cmon

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looking at a sniper and just being like

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"I cast nuh uh"

thorn cedar
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snipers will still fuck you

tall solar
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does that pierce

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deflector

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that's so sad

thorn cedar
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yes

tall solar
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why

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thats like

thorn cedar
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its very rude

tall solar
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the obvious use case

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why would they do that

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fatshark why

heavy dagger
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assail or BB with KF for a knife melee build

tall solar
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true

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KF funny

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click guy

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he splode

heavy dagger
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nvm blaze greatsword is way better than that sloppy knife

rich spindle
verbal thistle
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At mid event with twins dead

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And it was after ranged seed and event was melee ambiance so it probably switched for the rest of the map

rich spindle
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it would be so hard to resist running past everything with laspistol after mid

heavy dagger
marble ether
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do psyker even have any synergy with scum? im doing so much less dmg when scum is on my team, or i feel bubbles are too static and rather unnecessary when they're running around like chickens etc.

crisp ether
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And scum also has to push out more to get their benefits

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Unless it's stimm crate.

deft stump
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I feel like either the game hates me or trolls me. Because this would be nice if it wasn't TRAUMA.

dire wharf
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0??

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Is that a bug or just really low odds

marble crater
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Skill issue actually loregryn

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(low odds)

ripe obsidian
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Bubble also loses value the better or more aggressive your team is.

rich spindle
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soulblaze kills everything that isnt a crusher or boss and toxin kills crushers and bosses

narrow herald
rich spindle
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needle is like inverted purg staff

narrow herald
fathom fulcrum
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is anticipation worth it for fgs?

deft stump
weary crane
deft stump
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I just wanted another staff for rend flurry.

weary crane
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I can kill gunners and specialists in like 3 shots of my iag on h40

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I would say IF nades are available, scum is more powerful than psyker

verbal thistle
ripe obsidian
deft stump
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@ripe obsidian rending flurry uses cara flak?

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Or does it crit fish as usual?

fathom fulcrum
fathom adder
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It's good to have something to look forward to.

ripe obsidian
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Rending Trauma is about the only non-crit Psyker build

ripe obsidian
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I don't even use EE on Blazing trauma anymore

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You could use PotS on Rending Trauma, but the value is pretty negligible as compared with Blazing. It will increase the damage of your first hit by up to 25% against flak and carapace, but does very little past that.

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B/c that first RMB will get you over 100% ADM on those enemies with brittleness

jovial juniper
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Almost a waste of point imo

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But like

ripe obsidian
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Anticipation is a nice node to have.

jovial juniper
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That's just me

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You know

deft stump
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I just realised I forgot ER.

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Explains why every blast was 25% peril.

ripe obsidian
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ER makes Trauma less stressful

weary crane
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Rending trauma pairs great with another full soulblaze psyker

fathom fulcrum
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street smarts on arbi, antic on psyker thumbsup_ogryn

deft stump
ripe obsidian
deft stump
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Also, I think crit blaze feels safer to play.

rigid sky
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Blazing can get away without the toughness nerf talent since you don't need to leverage flurry

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So you can weave quells and ride the max warp nexus

deft stump
rigid sky
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I hate that talent tbh

deft stump
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I only had Battle Meditation.

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XD

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I think I need to get Vampire instead actually.

maiden lynx
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are any of the staves not good?

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electro seems kinda pointless tbh

deft stump
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Takes 3 working days to charge.

maiden lynx
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damn, that is sad because i love it

deft stump
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Hits too little.

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Considering both peril cost AND Charge time.

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EK is kinda meh now with the HP increase.

maiden lynx
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i do agree it takes way too long to charge for the damage

deft stump
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Just breakpoints blep.

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This is RMB/Altfire EK.

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LMB/BRRRRRRRRRRRRR still too good.

maiden lynx
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it's kind of strange that all the staves have the same primary fire

maiden lynx
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the absence of a beam staff is glaring

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either a staff that fires a piercing high damage single ray or a continuous one, both would be awesome

deft stump
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So you want Plasma but inf ammo.

maiden lynx
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i mean hey, by that logic the voidstrike staff's ideal state is also kind of just plasma but inf ammo it's a piercing high damage projectile just bigger and slower :p

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which i guess also speaks to the potential redundancy of that concept but i dunno i just wanna fire a psyker hyperbeam what can i say

deft stump
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Plasma but dook, sure.

maiden lynx
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definitely could use a continuous beam as a primary fire mode on a staff tho

jade karma
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Is there a psyker build for spamming brianblast

radiant frigate
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no

zealous wing
frail oar
rose linden
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ek popping off

rough gale
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Blessings:

Unstable Power VS Wrath

deft stump
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Unless you refuse to press SG ever and is playing ganger with beeg sword but no rockets.

zealous wing
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strength being damage and impact, impact being stagger

radiant mesa
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So immaterial focus, what actually stuns you in this game and what's considered a stun??

zealous wing
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things that interrupt your attacks or data interrogation

radiant mesa
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So that perk is used for the 10% dr huh

zealous wing
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mostly yes

verbal thistle
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door crushed burster

radiant frigate
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pogsburster

ripe obsidian
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Rending Trauma + Shriek

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Not entirely convinced it's better than blazing trauma + shriek

crisp ether
ripe obsidian
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this is a game of comparable length with blazing

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Flurry definitely feels nice to use, though

rich spindle
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I dont think the amount of soulblaze fire trauma puts out is worth it in havoc

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vs rending

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and flurry

ripe obsidian
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I have a much easier time managing peril with flurry

dull scroll
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gotta stick to min-cast and The Rotationā„¢

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people tries to greed max-cast is not worth it, even on rending

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except maybe when you purposefully try to knock down a crusher down

ripe obsidian
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I am struggling with where I want to put my last point. This is 29/30. I have been using PotS, since it boosts my first hit against anything flak and carapace, but I am not sure it's worth it. I do not want to use JaD. Maybe ES to make killing specials with LMB easier?

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I am unsure if PotS gives any meaningful breakpoint before Rending Shockwave makes it pointless

ripe obsidian
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Probably not. But it's funny to think about.

rich spindle
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it might be

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havent tried it

ripe obsidian
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well, Perfect Timing is +15% damage on all enemies for you. Whereas Rending fully charged is +10% minimum damage to flak, maniac, unyielding, and carapace for your whole team

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B/c even over 100% ADM, you get 1/4 effectiveness as damage

hallow vector
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interesting

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gun psyker is

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especially with vraks

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vraks gun psyker is very silly

long saddle
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I don't think I've done vraks a lot, more so recon las or shredder

hallow vector
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vraks is what twin stubber should be tbh

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but more damage

radiant frigate
#

friendship ended with gun psyker (after the mettle change)

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now surge staff is my best friend

plucky flax
#

What mettle change

radiant frigate
plucky flax
#

Oh thats been a while

radiant frigate
#

Yes

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i haven't been here for half a year

hallow vector
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damage
kills
crit
weakspot

radiant frigate
#

in relation to what though

hallow vector
#

vraks gunsyker

coarse river
#

Also does psyker have a boss killing build that’s anything near Zealots? They one shot bosses from full hp in a havoc

hallow vector
#

no but there is some silly stuff

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mainly crit + weakspot building

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or brainburst scrier

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or shriek

coarse river
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He was at like 200k boss dmg and the rest of the group was at 10-20k xd

hallow vector
coarse river
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I play electro staff with brainrot and shriek and do a little bit of everything but there’s no way I can do anything like zealots and hive scum at least

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But I have double everyone else’s kills at least

coarse river
hallow vector
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yea most builds are more specialized

hallow vector
#

which if you have something you can trigger often its not bad

coarse river
#

Cause I could run inferno staff for clear or just play greatsword with that right?

hallow vector
#

yea they technically do similar but

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inferno staffs main thing is the long secondary

coarse river
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Then spam brain burst casts on bosses

hallow vector
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if you use the damage ramp up blessing + warp flurry its actually p good

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or brittlness to soften everything

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just depends on build but once you get what you like itll be good

coarse river
#

Yeah was thinking brittleness too but I’d use it strictly to compensate for my reduced ability to clear since I’m specced into boss smog right?

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The staff

hallow vector
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mostly yeah

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its good for clearing

coarse river
#

I just don’t own a good boss killing build

hallow vector
#

just depends on if you want to clear or you want to help your team

coarse river
#

I play scrier smite or electro staff shriek

hallow vector
#

i started using vraks on crit psyker and its pretty good at melting bosses but

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its also just really good at everything

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killing everything that is

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not much team helping

coarse river
#

I’m pretty new so I still need to test things out

hallow vector
#

yea

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you could just experiment with different builds

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i used loadouts to start doing that

hallow vector
#

loadouts are great for experimenting with new stuff

coarse river
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Idc for team helping, I take ogryn, veteran or zealot to do the team helping

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I wanna be the lawn mower

long saddle
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you can help and kill

hallow vector
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ill make my build and then post it one sec

hallow vector
#

just the build specifically

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always help teammates (unless your teammate can get them while you fend off enemies)

long saddle
#

unless you're doing high havoc, most classes can just do more than one thing

coarse river
#

Currently I have a loadout for inferno staff, melee build, scrier smite, electro shriek, forceblast staff and some meme build with combat knife and assail which I lack the skills to play

coarse river
long saddle
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what do you call help?

coarse river
#

Ogryns

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Veterans

long saddle
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no like what is helping, the action

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not a whole class

coarse river
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Buffing teammates

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Healing

long saddle
#

well there's no heal

coarse river
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Revive

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Nah but zealots can heal back purple hp and give u full toughness

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And cc everything

long saddle
#

that's just corruption cleanse

coarse river
#

I feel the most helpful when I play smite psyker

long saddle
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and it can't go past a full wound

coarse river
#

Actually bubble is really helpful

long saddle
#

well, smite is a bit antithetical when it comes to helping

coarse river
#

How?

long saddle
#

because a lot of mechanics and classes rely on dodging for survivability and damage

coarse river
#

I thought community perception is psyker is best at everything

hallow vector
#

i have posted my build

coarse river
long saddle
#

yes they are

plucky flax
#

Tru it was just how fast we killed the twins. I did get highest boss damage in that round tho

coarse river
#

Alright just wanted to check

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I can get most boss dmg but if there’s a hive scum or zealot I just feel like there’s no way that should be the case

long saddle
#

depends on everyone's build really

plucky flax
#

Depend on skills xd

long saddle
#

well that too ofc

plucky flax
#

I have none

coarse river
plucky flax
#

Anyway I dont think psyker has bad boss damage at least from my own experience. Playstyle difference and all that tho

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I have good boss damage

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Personally

coarse river
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Yeah I think I’ve only played with stealth boss build zealots past 10 games cause the bosses die in legit 1 hit

long saddle
#

I think most of my builds don't, but I have a lot of staff builds

coarse river
#

Cool I got red name

radiant frigate
#

psyker has good boss damage now

plucky flax
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No skill needed with psyker

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And fgs6

radiant frigate
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just mash heavies into face#

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gg

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does one gorillion damage on weakspot crit

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not like comically large zealot backstabs but we do other things better

coarse river
radiant frigate
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play sg

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surprisingly beefy

long saddle
#

psyker has arguably just as much if not more at times

coarse river
#

Idk I feel like I get oneshot so easily

radiant frigate
radiant frigate
coarse river
#

What

long saddle
#

but yeah psyker has less innate survivability

radiant frigate
#

realistically only overheads oneshot you

long saddle
#

but toughness generation is through the roof

radiant frigate
#

solution? run like a witch every time melee elites show up

coarse river
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I either never die or I get trapped and insta die basically

radiant frigate
#

trapper is certain death for all classes

long saddle
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zealot just lives the longest there because of until death

radiant frigate
#

some classes can undog themselves

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no class can unnet themselves

plucky flax
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Make dog tear off net

coarse river
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No but I die legit 0.1 sec after I’m trapped and my guard is down

long saddle
#

lone wolf in shambles

radiant frigate
#

that is normal

long saddle
#

yeah

radiant frigate
#

man's best friend W

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the lone wolf dies
the pack survives

coarse river
long saddle
#

that just depends on the speed of which you're rescued

marble crater
long saddle
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and which is why max revive speed is best

coarse river
#

I’m only 75 hours in so my sample size for the other classes isn’t that big yet

coarse river
long saddle
#

do it on all

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revive maxxing is some of the best helping you can do

coarse river
#

But other classes can ignore everything while they revive

long saddle
#

nothing can ignore stuff like fire

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but speed helps you stay in the fire for a lot less time

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the less time you stay immobilized the better

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for all parties involved

coarse river
#

Idk met this ogryn gigachad who just kept reviving ppl in the middle of like 20 enemies

long saddle
#

yeah, but so can psyker if you run kinetic deflection

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other classes can just create short bursts of CC and revive people fast after

wraith sphinx
long saddle
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scum at the end of rampage

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if forge's bellow

wraith sphinx
#

ogryns can throw off dogs sometimes but idk what triggers it, seems really random

radiant frigate
#

^

long saddle
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ogryns is the middle keystone

long saddle
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if you have one of the extra talents to it

wraith sphinx
#

oooh

radiant frigate
#

psyker if you got soulblaze on the dog and KF

coarse river
#

Afaik you need to position better as psyker than anything else since it’s so easy to get caught out?

wraith sphinx
#

ah pained outburst

long saddle
#

I love soulblaze killing stuff while I'm dead

radiant frigate
#

zealot if you're chilling in your own flame grenade

summer prairie
#

zealot can technically also do it with Master's Retribution but it only stops the pounce

radiant frigate
long saddle
#

other classes might have easier outs than psyker

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like emergency toughness and such

coarse river
long saddle
#

ogryn is so much more positioning than zealot

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zealot can def be braindead at times

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all of zealot's abilities have easy toughness regen or replenishment in some way

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ogryn can be caught out in the open easier and just succumb to gunfire

wraith sphinx
#

or just left behind because you're playing with randoms who forget ogryn moves slower

plucky flax
#

Cant stop me speeding

digital narwhal
#

Hi chat

pine elk
digital narwhal
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Why not?

pine elk
#

Kobolds get everywhere and take up space.

#

Though, admittedly not a lot of space, but it starts to count up the more kobolds there are.

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And there's never just one kobold.

wraith sphinx
#

Hello chat

dire wharf
#

Morning

zinc phoenix
rigid sky
#

Sometimes 3 of them get in a trenchcoat and pretend to be an adventurer

deft stump
zinc phoenix
honest bloom
radiant frigate
#

hive scum is just hood psyker

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wizzas in tertium

dire wharf
barren arrow
#

Hive scum does not be having warpshock slash lol

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wait fuck he's so accurate actually

ripe obsidian
#

Hive Scum has the heavy sword, no?

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Isn't it 2h on heavies?

barren arrow
#

"Warpshock slash?"
"We got RPG."

"Purgatus staff?"
"We got 9 billion bullets per second."

"Armor piercing soulblaze?"
"Needle pistol."

dire wharf
#

I have no idea tbh

ripe obsidian
thorn cedar
#

"Voices from the warp?"
"Mucker we've got meth."

barren arrow
#

Typically I find hive scum to be a similar case with a lot of arby's, where it ends up being "They don't die very quickly, but they don't kill anything or provide team buffs"

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that said I can't say mean words about hive scum bc the first 40 I cleared was with the most locked in hive scum in existence & 2 goobers who single handedly contributed to our team's 14 deaths

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It was truly crazy work

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so we effectively played a havoc 40 with 2 characters for 90% of the mission, was honestly quite incredible

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but I was also playing martyrdom hammer zealot rather than my psyker

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so we got to just skip the bossfights

as for how tf we survived the hordes, we pretty much just ran back to previous sections and held chokes, was very tedious

ripe obsidian
#

I have had some good scum, a couple bad

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More good than bad

#

Oh my lord I had a Martyr + Sneaky Zealot last night who couldn't figure out how to bop bosses

barren arrow
#

buh

ripe obsidian
#

They had like 250k boss damage at the end of the match

barren arrow
#

How do you get scoreboard to work anyhow?

ripe obsidian
#

Dis was the match

deft stump
barren arrow
ripe obsidian
barren arrow
# ripe obsidian Dis was the match

To be fair

I did manage to get one of the bosses with a oneshot, I only picked up the relic blade the other day which is why I was in auric rather than havoc :)

ripe obsidian
#

Was that you...?

barren arrow
#

Arby was my friend dork who I was also playing with

#

LMAOOOO

ripe obsidian
#

Well then.

barren arrow
#

wait

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Was it me?

#

I don't think so

ripe obsidian
#

I don't know

barren arrow
#

I don't think I have puncture on my boltgun

#

Nonono I have a bolt pistol

ripe obsidian
#

The username was Scotsman or something

barren arrow
#

oh no

#

I am john warhammer

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And john psykerphrenia

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And johnald-big-rashun

#

I have a type.

ripe obsidian
#

Well

barren arrow
#

My arby is named Keith Davids.
Switch things up a little.

ripe obsidian
#

We still won, but bosses took a long time to die

barren arrow
#

yea no ok

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last night i was having a difficult time oneshotting bosses because we were killing them too fast for me to get in position

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and I still did manage to do most the damage to them & get a couple oneshots lol

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i am east coast btw

ripe obsidian
#

I was holding off hordes and just like, "I hope this Pogryn doesn't come over and headbutt me off a cliff"

barren arrow
#

lul

ripe obsidian
#

I am also NA East. I more or less only play H40 or event missions unless being goofy with friends.

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All of my characters are named something like Spoony-Threepus or Joony-Dreepus

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Because it amuses me

barren arrow
#

I think I remember a spoony

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What's the thought process behind your build btw?

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I keep around 3 builds in pocket on my psyker

barren arrow
deft stump
#

US East is also near 400 ping

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I'm not taking trauma anywhere near 400 ping.

barren arrow
deft stump
#

Purga is hard enough with gambling on puffs to hit.

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Assail only works because autoaim by server to some degree.

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Same with EK.

summer prairie
#

darn lost consignment yard duo in the finale

radiant frigate
ripe obsidian
barren arrow
#

i am a purgatus + deimos/mkvi fgs fan for my psyker personally

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Melee mostly being what I use to deal with elites moreso than hordes

ripe obsidian
#

Ah. I have a few builds there. This one was rending + shriek. There's also blazing + shriek and blazing + scrier's

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I don't use bubble often

barren arrow
#

Tru

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of my 3 main builds, bubble is the 4th šŸ™ƒ

ripe obsidian
#

But in this case, I was trying out rending + shriek. I've not used it much. Several people here feel it's stronger than Blazing + Shriek, though. It has an easier time with heavy enemies and Flurry allows you to RMB more often and with better peril control. Not using crit nodes frees up talent points for more tankiness, which is nice. Even without Blazing I still do 1/3 or so of my total damage as Soulblaze from Shriek. Clears hordes nicely.

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Assuming all of your allies have 100% ADMs already, Rending is also a 10% damage boost for your team on flak, maniac, carapace, and unyielding enemies once fully stacked

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This is the base build I am using, though I am still debating the last point.

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There are four options that seem potentially viable.

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  • Penetration of the Soul, which is only good on Trauma b/c you have 80% ADMs on flak and carapace. This only has a meaningful benefit on the first blast. Once an enemy has brittleness on them, PotS becomes mostly useless.
  • Empyric Shock for potentially faster LMB kills on specials.
  • Malefic Momentum for a big melee boost.
  • Just a Dream to be tankier. I just hate JaD screwing with my peril
ripe obsidian
#

The biggest difference I noticed was Flurry making peril management a lot easier

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B/c I can release a minimum charge RMB faster

icy breach
zealous wing
ripe obsidian
#

JaD is my nemesis. Along with basic shooters.

icy breach
ripe obsidian
#

In the game I screenshotted, I had about 800k ranged damage, 650k soulblaze, and 300k blitz

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And like 75k melee, but whatever

dire wharf
#

Error 2014 is my nemesis

ripe obsidian
#

Reasonable

long saddle
ripe obsidian
#

I still haven't finished the event

#

3 wins thus far. Got frustrated playing with randoms.

long saddle
#

run I just did, we competed for soulblaze but most of my dmg was from blast so

ripe obsidian
#

How dare they touch your soulblaze

summer prairie
long saddle
#

I think they were both bubble so they couldn't compete

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im just using the pinned build for shriek rending, it's working well

ripe obsidian
ripe obsidian
ripe obsidian
#

If it's in the Bonanza, I made it

#

I'd probably modify that one a little bit based on experience with the build since initially making it

long saddle
#

yeah it's similar to what you posted above

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I might try shifting battle meditation to anticipation

ripe obsidian
#

Probably worth trying

long saddle
ripe obsidian
#

I wish it were easier to compare builds in action. But the game is just too volatile and inconsistent to get good data. Argh. Argh! I hate that skill is the defining factor, not mathematically optimal builds. Not that I can do the optimal math anyway.

thorn cedar
#

smh scoreboard cope

ripe obsidian
#

I'm just bad at the game

#

I need perfect builds to make up for my poor play

#

Though this is the true perfect build.

icy breach
ripe obsidian
#

Though I struggle in high difficulties outside of Psyker and Arby. Probably due to lack of practice with other classes. My biggest struggle is, usually, identifying and killing specials at a distance. When not on my two main classes, I am often the lowest special kill count. Even on, like, plasma vet

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I've completed H40 on every non-Vet class at least once. When I did it on Ogryn, my corpse was dragged over the finish line. Psyker and Arby I am confident, Scum I am... okay. Zealot I am not great but I probably won't be the reason we lose. Vet and Oggy, I am a liability

stray shoal
#

What’s the best psyker build to do mortis trials below 25 min

ripe obsidian
#

Probably Meleeker.

#

Fastest kill times on bosses.

#

Try to get the Fire & Blood major blessing. If the game RNG is with you

#

It absolutely shreds everything

jovial juniper
#

Fulminator Smite is also good

#

But way more rng dependant

ripe obsidian
#

I haven't tried it

#

If Soulblaze worked with the fire blessings in Mortis, Psyker would be better

#

But I have found Psyker to be kinda eh in Mortis. No goofy grenade builds, no fire boosts.

clear stag
stray shoal
#

Scriers meleeker gotcha

#

I’ve been messing around with assail

jovial juniper
stray shoal
#

Sounds better than it actually plays tbh

clear stag
#

And imo, use a gun (but focus melee) I like recon lasgun with scrier's gaze a lot

radiant mesa
#

I dub this the "definitely a vet" build, running this with a recon las is peak gameplay lmfao

ripe obsidian
#

Why Siphon with gun and SG?

#

And no melee attack speed node? D:

radiant mesa
#

The DMG increase and -% peril gen

ripe obsidian
#

DD is a bigger damage increase

radiant mesa
#

Yes but no -% peril gen

ripe obsidian
#

But

#

There is

radiant mesa
#

Helps keep SG up for longer

ripe obsidian
#

Purloin Providence

radiant mesa
#

Idk you can use either

ripe obsidian
#

Purloin Providence is not a very good node, tbh

radiant mesa
#

I just prefer keeping siphon up, plus the cool down for when gaze ends

#

Just helps keep gaze constant

ripe obsidian
#

Gaze should be constant without CDR

radiant frigate
#

this build is insanely cursed

radiant mesa
ripe obsidian
#

It cools down with psykinetic's aura

#

Is pretty goofy

radiant mesa
#

Indeed

#

It's great with a FGS

radiant frigate
#

no MM, no attack speed, no DD

#

what the flop

radiant mesa
#

Lmfao

#

I told ya its my "definitely a vet" build

radiant mesa
radiant frigate
#

and a build using a gun without assail

radiant mesa
#

Why use assail when can use bb

clear stag
#

This is so sad.. 100 like

radiant mesa
#

Gotta get krak in the build somehow

radiant frigate
#

+25% da-mahj

radiant mesa
#

How does assail increase my gun dmg

radiant frigate
#

assail is a warp attack

jovial juniper
radiant frigate
#

assail triggers MM

radiant mesa
#

Oh fair ig

radiant frigate
#

MM gives you 25% gun damage

radiant mesa
#

BB fun, plus helps upkeep siphon with the execute

#

It's definitely cursed

#

Absolutely nowhere near good

#

but is fun

#

Is warp splitting as good as everyone says it is staregryn

ripe obsidian
#

It's good

#

100% more cleave

#

More cleave is more cleave

jovial juniper
#

Yeah it's good

radiant mesa
#

Is it worth breaking my back trying to get tho

radiant frigate
#

i be skipping it atm

radiant mesa
#

I use fgs

jovial juniper
#

Not needed

radiant mesa
#

Nice

#

Just saying ts in mortis trials with either the crit path or death dealer is amazing

#

Just hold the trigger forever

rich spindle
#

The attack speed node makes your gun fire faster too

rich spindle
radiant mesa
#

Lmfao

#

I swapped to it already

rich spindle
#

Ok I’m untying the noose

radiant mesa
#

I forgot I had mind in motion on ngl

#

I don't actually quell so I forgot

radiant frigate
#

but you do reload

radiant mesa
#

Yes

radiant frigate
#

(i am a mind in motion denier)

radiant mesa
#

I don't usually use it

#

I had it on for funsies

#

Idk I'm doing heresy mortis trials rn, my ass just fuckin around

dire wharf
#

Wheres the node to make attack speed slower

barren arrow
#

for what purpose

#

FOR WHAT PUUURPOOOOOOSSEEEE

jovial juniper
#

So you don't get carpal tunnel

dire wharf
#

My hands hate me

radiant frigate
marble crater
wraith sphinx
#

doesn't lifting weights or performing manual labor reduce carpal tunnel risk?

dire wharf
#

dunno

cedar pine
#

I FUCKING LOVE SMITE

#

FINALLY

#

THE PUSH ENEMIES OFF CLIFF PENANCE

#

DONE

#

back to assail

radiant frigate
marble crater
mystic lantern
#

Is it time

thorn cedar
#

it's always time

swift stag
#

Sibling

wraith sphinx
#

Go forth and wreak true havoc

dire wharf
#

Almost done with the dream team penance. Figured i'd play a few rounds of malice to make it easier.. twice now someone with an auric storm survivor tag has gone down, in 2 different pug matches

zealous wing
#

he's starting to believe

#

(auric storm survivor tag, and most tags for that matter, are utterly meaningless)

radiant frigate
#

Reject is the only real tag

wraith sphinx
#

I reject all tags, do ho ho

#

I began as nobody and will end as a nobody

ripe obsidian
wraith sphinx
#

Smite has been nice for the event missions however

radiant frigate
#

No

#

no it has not

clear stag
#

I mostly did voidblast heavy for it