And tweak matchmaking
#psyker-class
ripe obsidian
zinc phoenix
Yeah but it’s lame so I’m not gonna bother
dusk timber
deserved tbh
ripe obsidian
deserved tbh
My Beloved says not to bully me
zinc phoenix
I mean I believe you on the sales aspect I just think it’s boring so why log in 😂
“It’s just like the rotted armor waves in havoc” yay….
ripe obsidian
I don't know. Maybe they gave the task to an intern because none of the more senior devs want to do it
rigid sky
at least the scum enjoyers really love it though
it's just so visceral
arbitrator feels so dull in comparison idk
ripe obsidian
Arby was goofy at launch
buoyant maple
Arb is a 2-branch class whereas hvs is a 3-branch class
jovial juniper
It's 2026 and Arby's still mid
Can't believe I'm right
I just lied, I totally believe I'm right
Because I am
Good dog though
deft stump
just met a Psyker spamming FGS specials
Bistol? Bleed exploit.
deft stump
Then... IDK.
jovial juniper
Waow
ripe obsidian
Weird
The damage is pretty garbage without a charge
The bleed exploit is funny for like one game, though
marble crater
If Bistol is so good, why is it not called bestol?
ripe obsidian
I don't see bistol very often anymore
jovial juniper
Pepto bismol
ripe obsidian
Which is sad, because it's my favorite gun in this game
With close seconds being the Zarona revolver or DB shotgun with Weapon Spec Vet
gaunt pilot
Can anyone link a good flamestaff build for the event?
ripe obsidian
Friend, countrypsyker
Lend me your eyes
For I have compiled for you--just for you--all the builds and templates you could hope for
In the pins, named the Build Bonanza
I am a proponent of Firestick + Shriek, and a melee weapon with Uncanny for boppin' crushers
But firestick + shriek will bestow grievous harm upon everything on its own, save for crushers and bosses. And even bosses, if you don't have someone bursting them down, will burn.
rigid sky
Obscurus is great as an additional source of boss damage on an Inferno caster build
deft stump
I don't see bistol very often anymore
Cos it really needs a buff.
More so now when they buffed all the HP.
ripe obsidian
Obscurus is great as an additional source of boss damage on an Inferno caster bu...
Yes, Obscurus can be great for single-target damage. FGS as well, but you lose mobility, and there's a lot of overlap between FGS and firestick. I personally use Deimos because I value the safety and reliable killspeed on specials of the H2, but Obscurus is, I think, a better weapon if you're skilled with it.
rigid sky
Obscurus is easier in some ways because the powerhouse hit is H1
So better initiation than the Deimos combo Vs things like muties
But Deimos has the stagger
ashen edge
The grenade that enemies drop strip me off my toughness when playing melee psyker too 😞
I also wonder why scum have 3 missile which is considerably better than ogryn nade at almost everything aside of blast radius
rich spindle
Is obscurus h1 stronger than Deimos l1
ashen edge
Is obscurus h1 stronger than Deimos l1
No
rich spindle
Deimos l1 is busted but the animation doesn’t look like it
ashen edge
I think it's a good for single target
rich spindle
Probably better carapace adm right
ripe obsidian
I will get ye the numbers, fair river fish
verbal thistle
Overall higher adms
ripe obsidian
Bear with me
rich spindle
I feel like it will be very close
zealous wing
hot take i guess
event is fun
with friends, not randos probably
frail oar
What does the event effect do for psykers?
verbal thistle
rich spindle
What does the event effect do for psykers?
Makes them buy the dlc
dire wharf
Why does deimos have so much stagger
ripe obsidian
@rich spindle I believe this is the ADM for Obscurus H1:
attack = {
[armor_types.unarmored] = damage_lerp_values.lerp_1,
[armor_types.armored] = damage_lerp_values.lerp_0_5,
[armor_types.resistant] = damage_lerp_values.lerp_1,
[armor_types.player] = damage_lerp_values.lerp_1,
[armor_types.berserker] = damage_lerp_values.lerp_0_5,
[armor_types.super_armor] = damage_lerp_values.no_damage,
[armor_types.disgustingly_resilient] = damage_lerp_values.lerp_0_75,
[armor_types.void_shield] = damage_lerp_values.lerp_1,
with this base damage:
"attack",
{
150,
350,
},
And for Deimos L1:
armor_damage_modifier = {
attack = {
[armor_types.unarmored] = damage_lerp_values.lerp_1,
[armor_types.armored] = damage_lerp_values.lerp_0_5,
[armor_types.resistant] = damage_lerp_values.lerp_1,
[armor_types.player] = damage_lerp_values.lerp_1,
[armor_types.berserker] = damage_lerp_values.lerp_0_8,
[armor_types.super_armor] = damage_lerp_values.no_damage,
[armor_types.disgustingly_resilient] = damage_lerp_values.lerp_0_9,
[armor_types.void_shield] = damage_lerp_values.lerp_0_75,
},
attack = {
100,
200,
},
WTF why does it say no damage for carapace
ripe obsidian
Not sure.
rich spindle
ripe obsidian
ah, hold on
There are two ADMs listed for each attack. I think I copied the default, not first target hit
B/c default is what it goes to after cleave ends
armor_damage_modifier = {
attack = {
[armor_types.unarmored] = damage_lerp_values.lerp_1,
[armor_types.armored] = damage_lerp_values.lerp_1,
[armor_types.resistant] = damage_lerp_values.lerp_1,
[armor_types.player] = damage_lerp_values.lerp_1,
[armor_types.berserker] = damage_lerp_values.lerp_1,
[armor_types.super_armor] = damage_lerp_values.lerp_0_65,
[armor_types.disgustingly_resilient] = damage_lerp_values.lerp_1,
[armor_types.void_shield] = damage_lerp_values.lerp_1,
},
This would be Obscurus H1, I believe
And this for Deimos L1:
armor_damage_modifier = {
attack = {
[armor_types.unarmored] = damage_lerp_values.lerp_1,
[armor_types.armored] = damage_lerp_values.lerp_1,
[armor_types.resistant] = damage_lerp_values.lerp_1,
[armor_types.player] = damage_lerp_values.lerp_1,
[armor_types.berserker] = damage_lerp_values.lerp_0_8,
[armor_types.super_armor] = damage_lerp_values.lerp_0_25,
[armor_types.disgustingly_resilient] = damage_lerp_values.lerp_0_9,
[armor_types.void_shield] = damage_lerp_values.lerp_1,
},
My mistake
This tool hasn't been updated for a while, so it might be using the wrong numbers. But assuming it's correct, Deimos L1 with no blessings or talents accounted for does ~450 damage on a headshot versus a maniac, and Obscurus H1 does ~900
rigid sky
The Obscurus H1 is really better compared with the Deimos H2, since they're the flagship single attacks from each
ripe obsidian
Deimos H2 does ~1100 on a headshot tho
rigid sky
and then compare the Obscurus L2 L3 with the Deimos L1 and whatever you use to combo between H2s after
is it H3?
ripe obsidian
The Obscurus H1 is really better compared with the Deimos H2, since they're the ...
I agree. I just wanted to get him the information about Ob H1 vs Deimos L1
rich spindle
You pretty much got it
rigid sky
I agree. I just wanted to get him the information about Ob H1 vs Deimos L1
yep yep, that distinction is the main reason why I prefer Obs after all
rich spindle
I don’t think perilous combustion is worth it though
rigid sky
first strike rather than second strike makes a big difference
ripe obsidian
I would swap Warp Res dump on the staff to charge rate for LMB-ery
And +crit chance on the staff to +maniac
You'll already be hitting 70-80% crit chance, which means you're guaranteed to crit on the second attack if you don't on the first. 67% crit chance is the breakpoint there, I believe.
Crit chance in this game is not truly random.
If you're playing Havoc, I recommend moving one of the +5% toughness nodes to +5% HP in order to survive bursters and snipers. The +5% HP takes you from 98 hp to 106, I believe
rich spindle
Wut difficulty are you playing on
rich spindle
You'll already be hitting 70-80% crit chance, which means you're guaranteed to c...
I’m goin gto choose to ignore this and pretend that 80% crit chance = 80% crit chance so I don’t have to mess with my zealot builds
ripe obsidian
I do agree with S4lmon than Perilous Combustion is an iffy pick. It can give you MM procs if it gets kills, but it's not very reliable outside of, like, shotgunner mobs
rich spindle
Lalalala not reading
ripe obsidian
Charge rate is RMB charge time
I dump charge rate on my LMB and melee zapsticks because I barely ever use RMB
Only to, like, open bulwarks or sometimes stun a special or crusher that's bullying me
rich spindle
U should lmb spam against scary amounts of ragers and gunners
jovial juniper
I’m goin gto choose to ignore this and pretend that 80% crit chance = 80% crit c...
Based actually
ripe obsidian
I'd probably swap Perilous Combustion to Anticipation, Immaterial Focus, or Perfectionism + Cruel Fortune.
But if you like PC, it's fine to keep it, I think.
rich spindle
I dont thibk pc stacks will kill much in havoc unless you’re on ourple mod
Anticipation is pretty huge
Extra dodge will save you
ripe obsidian
Quietude might be worth keeping, since paired with SG and Warp Ghost it's a... 31%ish toughness regen on using SG, and however much on FGS special. I think it's a preference pick. If you're dropping it, I'd say Anticipation and then either Immaterial Focus for CC immunity when at high peril or Cruel Fortune + Perfectionism if you want more damage output
Anticipation is also something of a preference pick, but I find it makes FGS movement a lot smoother and more forgiving
In basically all of my builds, I end up debating between Quietude for defense or something else for offense
rich spindle
Take both tbh
ripe obsidian
It depends on how many points I have left. D:
I actually dropped Empathic Evasion on my Blazing Trauma build to take Quietude. The uptime on EE was just so low, and rarely when I needed it, because my LMBs and RMBs were suppressing and staggering the things shooting me.
That's fair. A lot of this stuff is preference. Psyker is lucky to have a tree where there's not one correct path. Unlike Vet, for example.
rich spindle
10sec and 25 stack seem equal performance on average
ripe obsidian
If you're not picking Anticipation and Perfectionism, I'd say Immaterial Focus and Warp Speed.
I will say that IF has killed me more than once because I didn't realize I was getting hit. :D But that's a skill issue on my part.
rich spindle
25 stack is fun when you start killing shotgunners with one light attack
ripe obsidian
I believe I do Quietude and Anticipation with those two points, but otherwise my build is identical
but my PC is still down so I can't log in to check ahhhhhhhhhhhhh
If that works for you, sure. I know some people swear by PC on meleeker, but it's just not something I've found very useful. I think it's important to play a build you like, regardless of the meta. I mean, so long as you aren't trolling your team or something.
There's someone here who plays flat shield meleeker, and he's probably the best I've seen.
Well, in the top 5 or so psykers I've seen
Username here is bruh moment. Other really good players are Ainz, AgentChaos, Syllogism, S4lmon... probably forgetting people
Oh, Vect
I get it. I've done Meleeker at H40, but it's often a struggle for me. I'm not great at positioning in melee and my threat awareness is sometimes lacking
ripe obsidian
I'd say the players I listed are all, like, 10/10 psykers. I think most of them record videos. I'd put myself at maybe 7/10 or 8/10 with Psyker. So a step down.
ripe obsidian
I've never claimed to be as good as them.
jovial juniper
I have no proof but six is definitely a 10/10 psyker player
You can trust me on that
Because I'm always right
ripe obsidian
Shouldn't sell yourself short
Eh. I'm good on staff builds, but I can't clutch or do H40 solo like those folks can. And I can't really play any class at an H40 level besides Psyker and Arby.
ripe obsidian
I assume you accepted them
verbal thistle
He dies in the 1st room then types "play together, don't split". I love new players
So cute
He stayed for a 2nd try
Did a bit better
ripe obsidian
Always
When I saw this post, I was curious if it was you.
https://old.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/1rck0t6/thank_you_to_the_havoc_40_players_that_let_me_in/
Reddit
It seems it was not
But
jovial juniper
Emotional support teammates
verbal thistle
Let's see
Yeah it's not me but that's basically what I do
I just tell them to take notes and ask questions
Sometimes I have them join this server and ask for build help
ripe obsidian
I think I saw this Pres guy once
is that sarcasm? If so, I do not get it.
Or irony. Whatever.
jovial juniper
Oh no no no
If my memory serves me right
I played with a Pres once
A while ago
So it's kinda blurry
ripe obsidian
Ah, okay. I wasn't sure if it was a username I just didn't recognize.
rich spindle
https://discord.com/channels/727074276724965407/1046913589614747719/147646623960...
This is actually the most insane one I’ve seen. The orange weapons but 2 missing curios
Pure chaos
jovial juniper
However I have no idea who Kirikou or Yuninz are
spice aurora
Curioless build so rare, cant unequip. Legendary
verbal thistle
This is actually the most insane one I’ve seen. The orange weapons but 2 missing...
It was a wound curio too
80 toughness 130 hp
summer prairie
still better than the gray 250 rating trauma staff psyker
thorn cedar
If that works for you, sure. I know some people swear by PC on meleeker, but it'...
#1 dictant for me is if my weapon is a very slow crowd killer (knife) and/or has uncanny strike
wtf since when could vanilla players have more than five builds
zealous wing
since they increased character slots
dire wharf
Seeing people talk about soloing H40... meanwhile I'm like yeah I bet I could solo malice
rich spindle
No one really solos it
thorn cedar
i never noticed lmao
zealous wing
wdym
zealous wing
No one really solos it
what makes a solo not a solo
verbal thistle
No one really solos it
Sal was so mean to me 5 months ago.....
Going through that old reddit post about my arby solo
Someone dm'ed it to me
verbal thistle
Yeah
rich spindle
Sal was so mean to me 5 months ago.....
That was ai / photoshop
verbal thistle
True
thorn cedar
oh shit this event puts the brutes right on your goddamn storm raptor
wait nvm thats my teammate
zealous wing
i reiterate though, with friends or at least competent people, this event is actually really fun
with pubs people seem.... really frustrated
ripe obsidian
with pubs people seem.... really frustrated
Tell me if I'm right: someone gets separated and dies to Ogryn spam. Someone else rushes to try to get them up and goes down as well. The remaining two people don't have builds that excel at clearing 800 reapers and crushers. You lose the war of attrition.
summer prairie
can you imagine this modifier in havoc
on a gunner seed
since it replaces all gunner elites with reapers
rich spindle
1 purg solos
verbal thistle
That was ai / photoshop
wait
verbal thistle
there was people saying my arby run was modded to be easier
marble crater
Fraud
ripe obsidian
there was people saying my arby run was modded to be easier
"I could totally do that if I used the mods you're using to make it easier."
"Okay, then do it."
"Pfft, I'm not wasting my time with that."
- Average internet discussion about game difficulty.
verbal thistle
you can always tell the people who dont research/test the game
ripe obsidian
tbh I think it's valid not to spend time researching or testing a game... up until you start positing yourself as an expert.
verbal thistle
but its on par with defaming someone
rich spindle
ripe obsidian
That's what I mean. If someone plays a game casually without wanting to do research or deeper testing, that's okay
But then they go online and spread lies
Based on vibes or envy or whatever
rich spindle
there was people saying my arby run was modded to be easier
did I say that 😔
cosmic sigil
uwu?
jovial juniper
cosmic sigil
I have played the hammer for the first time in two years
it is so good witht the talent that doesn't slow your heavies
spice aurora
it is so good witht the talent that doesn't slow your heavies
it definitely helps you when youre charging up and the boss turns away and ur like wait plz uwu come bak
cosmic sigil
yeah, exactly what happened to me last run
plogryn wanted some ogryn on ogryn action
ripe obsidian
Hammer bonk is satisfying
dire wharf
it is so good witht the talent that doesn't slow your heavies
Wish my psyker could do that
spice aurora
i dont think psyker needs it we dont havae huge weapon slowdown when attacking with most weapons i think
full river
Bad dental hygiene 
zinc phoenix
there was people saying my arby run was modded to be easier
Discord felt that this was so outrageous a slight that it made sure I saw it 😂
That really is wack tho
rich spindle
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/786208719200583710/1453945449856762009/...
lol
love this one
spice aurora
is there a mod more stable than scoreboard i feel like that causes all me crashes q-q
ripe obsidian
Probably not
verbal thistle
you are kidding
Attempts: 151
Deaths:
Mauler: 37
Trapper: 17
Dog: 3
Crusher: 24
Shooters: 12
Reaper: 8
Rodin: 1
Cspawn: 10
Burster: 4
Shotgunners: 6
Rager: 2
Mutant: 6
PotW: 2
Sniper: 2
Gunner: 6
Bulwark: 4
Poxwalkers: 3
Flamer: 2
Captain: 1
Bomber: 1
Plasma: 1
ripe obsidian
:<
It's mildly interesting that overheads account for 50% of your deaths. I guess they're about the only thing you can't potentially recover from, other than disablers.
verbal thistle
yeah
ripe obsidian
Sorry, 33%
That burster was very rude.
Do you could deaths by what gets the last hit, or by which enemy had the most impact in your death?
verbal thistle
depends on what
disablers I count the disabler
aoes I count the last tick of damage
ripe obsidian
So in that video, it would be the shooter (?) rather than the burster
ripe obsidian
Gotcha
tepid python
what's the attempt
ripe obsidian
Ainz is a crazy person.
dire wharf
Mauler overhead is also unblockable?
crisp ether
Mauler overhead is also unblockable?
Only parries and shield weapons
radiant frigate
Mauler overhead is also unblockable?
half-blockable
nukes your stamina and toughness
crisp ether
Or uniquely, one of ogryns talents that make perfect blocks able to block overheads
radiant frigate
Or uniquely, one of ogryns talents that make perfect blocks able to block overhe...
i think arby has that too
crisp ether
i think arby has that too
Do they?
I know they have true grit which just let's them not take really critical damage from them.
radiant frigate
somewhere in the bottom right i think
crisp ether
Honestly haven't looked at the arby tree in ages
Since if I run arby I run like
One build
Forceful crusher go brr
dire wharf
Only parries and shield weapons
Parry is dueling sword?
radiant frigate
making a petition to banish you from the kitchen
ripe obsidian
half-blockable
Unblockable
radiant frigate
Unblockable
did they change that too
ripe obsidian
It's never been blockable
rich spindle
laaaaame
radiant frigate
whar
crisp ether
making a petition to banish you from the kitchen
I'm right tho
Idec if the dueling sword is just better. It bores me to smithreens
radiant frigate
dclaw makes me sad
crisp ether
and the hell is that blessing pool
Lowkey
spice aurora
dclaw has the best blessings. if i want to do a stagger build i can build it in like 12 different ways
crisp ether
Hammerblow is kinda goated actually
radiant frigate
and you're telling me it's not even mobile?
crisp ether
I've been running hammerblow skullcrusher on scum and it's really fun actually
I figure mk7 would work fine on psyker
Cuz the push attack and the light after actually has remotely decent ADMs
radiant frigate
I'm sure the horde clear is insane but how's it looking on elites/bosses? is that just needle time
crisp ether
I'm sure the horde clear is insane but how's it looking on elites/bosses? is tha...
Parry, parry. Parry parry
If not that, just swing and hammerblow staggers
radiant frigate
ripe obsidian
Melee_executor_cleave
crisp ether
It stops ragers in their combos and crushers out of their overheads
ripe obsidian
Correct
So if your damage resist + 0.5 toughness + health is over 300, it won't kill you
But you still aren't blocking it, and it'll eat your stamina for trying
radiant frigate
300 damaj.. 600 to toughness... how much tdr do we need
can we dream it away, i wonder
dire wharf
ripe obsidian
I think a full damage resist Psyker in H40 can survive a crusher overhead. Not positive
I have never tried.
ripe obsidian
It's probably not a good idea regardless
dull scroll
I tested tankiness before for reasons
full tank psyker can tank mauler overhead in auric, that's about it
anything else is
ripe obsidian
Works for me
dull scroll
oh wait nvm, also crushers in auric as well, if your peril is high enough 😂
dire wharf
oh wait nvm, also crushers in auric as well, if your peril is high enough 😂
That's a great name 😆
Yes, inquisitor, this one over here
Is there a website that shows all of the weapon skins that have been released in the shop so far
And by all of the weapons I mean the force swords
merry meteor
Is there a meaningful, effective build for psyker that uses chain axe as the main weapon?
Asking for a friend
dire wharf
I think my lil psyker got some legit divine intervention jist now, holy heck. Doing the event and I get seperated from the other 3, only to end up in a crusher mosh pit, in a dead end corner no less, yet somehow dodged every single attack
So many crushers on the screen the audio comoletely breaks down and is hissing and screeching
Got that 🥲
dull scroll
Is there a meaningful, effective build for psyker that uses chain axe as the ma...
try something like this, spam assail to clear non-armor, use chainaxe on mauler/crusher/boss
merry meteor
thanks mate
rustic vapor
merry meteor
Can Assail crit?
hollow summit
Feels bad chain axe needs a buff
merry meteor
Feels bad chain axe needs a buff
The worst part about it is that it seems like they accidentally nerfed it instead. When they buffed Crushers they apparently did something to their stagger resistances, to make them less of a pushover. And it whacked the alt attack on heavy chain weapons, as its stagger not enough anymore to hold the bugger in place while you are sawwing him, as it was before.
So you try to channel it into a crusher, and eat an overhead from it immediately
hollow summit
Cant say I noticed on axe but i did notice on evis
merry meteor
Cant say I noticed on axe but i did notice on evis
They both seem to be affected yes
merry meteor
I didn't use it much before, so can't tell. I remember using it on one of my vet builds just for some fresh experiences. It did well in Damnation back then. But that was before crushers buff
hollow summit
Primary problem is that it cleaves like shit
merry meteor
yea, but on vet I had frags so didn't care
hollow summit
Yeah, I thought that but eventually I just moved to taxe
It also cleaves the same but I swing twice as fast
cosmic sigil
I think we're getting a power axe with the next class
It's one of the weapons of the mechanicus
solar sand
finally triple 17s
jovial juniper
It also cleaves the same but I swing twice as fast
coarse river
What staff do u usually run when ur not really planning to use the staff that much?
marble crater
At that point I would probably use a gun and a gunker/melee psyker build
dull scroll
try EK and spam the primary
jovial juniper
What staff do u usually run when ur not really planning to use the staff that mu...
Voidstrike
rigid sky
It also cleaves the same but I swing twice as fast
TAxe cleaves way better due to bromentum
hollow summit
Right...
rigid sky
Only way I ever got the chain axe to work was on martyrdom zealot
hollow summit
Not sure by how much but eh, point is chaxe sucks at cleave
rigid sky
And that was the mark 4
At least you use heavies on hordes with it, and even if it has that stupid damage cap on like 3-4 targets, it knocks more down
And Zealot has the fotf chain rip tech
But tac axe is such a better weapin
Weapon
hollow summit
It's so sad I'd rather run a regular axe than chain axe
errant karma
what are Psykana lockers in lore?
rigid sky
Yeah, chain axe feels incredible but it's kinda arse right now
4 is better than the 12 generally for the gimmick, unless you're Scum imo
buoyant maple
4 is better than the 12 generally for the gimmick, unless you're Scum imo
12 is better
jovial juniper
Despite the cleave cap on the heavies
A 5 stacks Slaughterer/Headtaker kills 2 poxxers per swing
So by that alone
With no other testing done
I can say that Mk4 horde clear is superior
Therefore better generalist
And generalist>>>>>
buoyant maple
I can say that Mk4 horde clear is superior
12 kills 3 per swing
lol
and swings faster
and has a way better push atk
jovial juniper
With lights?
Doubt
jovial juniper
I don't believe you
Simply because lights damage distribution is dogshit
On 12
On the 4 is basically inexistent
At least the lights aren't capped on 12
I'll give it that
Which is really sad because I like Mk4 but because it's capped it's shit
All capped weapons are shit
🗣️
buoyant maple
Simply because lights damage distribution is dogshit
it's not actually
axes generally have pretty good cleave distribution
12 is just quite a bit better than 4 overall atm
lament quail
I always avoid axes
cosmic sigil
I wish I could make use of chaxe on psyker
cosmic sigil
yeah... i assume it works with a shriek sb build
jovial juniper
I've run a lot on havoc due to Shield captains
With Blazing Trauma
Unfortunately it's just inferior to Uncanny Soulblaze interaction
rigid sky
I also like the snappiness of the mark 4's lights for ragers
thorn cedar
chaxe on psyker is pretty cute
if youre just staffmaxxing its a pretty handy choice for pocket crusher deletion
jovial juniper
12 is just quite a bit better than 4 overall atm
thorn cedar
and yes the 12 is superior
jovial juniper
arbites gets chaxe too?
Pretty sure they don't
buoyant maple
awfully unimaginative then
jovial juniper
Abysmal
Shock Maul
Shield
Taxe
Combat Axe
Chainsword
buoyant maple
expected tho
cosmic sigil
arf
jovial juniper
expected tho
cosmic sigil
I am pretty sure taxe was included because playtesters wanted to do solo runs
jovial juniper
Also Arby's getting no chain axe is kinda weird ngl
Looks like a very good breaking and entering weapon
buoyant maple
I'm the most imaginative person in the planet
not by a longshot
jovial juniper
glacial field
Psychers
buoyant maple
chainaxe best for vet/hvs/z tho
cosmic sigil
If I have one point to put into +15% dmg vs elites or +10% dmg vs everything... I assume the second one is better right?
glacial field
How are yall doing this event
buoyant maple
If I have one point to put into +15% dmg vs elites or +10% dmg vs everything... ...
usually yea
glacial field
This shit is making me leave auric for uprising
buoyant maple
like the thammer
which isn't one
dire wharf
Twohanded chain axe plz
jovial juniper
I am pretty sure taxe was included because playtesters wanted to do solo runs
Most likely because taxe is good stagger weapon
cosmic sigil
I just started playin the thammer again
jovial juniper
That being said
cosmic sigil
That being said
it is the odd one in the list
jovial juniper
Tf is Chainsword doing in the Arby's arsenal
dire wharf
Jaws of life
jovial juniper
So you combine both of them
jovial juniper
Looks like a very good breaking and entering weapon
.
That being said
It's a universe where power weapons exists
So
#givepowerswordtoArby's
cosmic sigil
which isn't one
not anymore?????
jovial juniper
Power sword + shield maybe?
Like we'll ever get crusaders
cosmic sigil
Power sword + shield maybe?
powershield
jovial juniper
ignore the crusaders premium cosmetic
cosmic sigil
or..... CHAINSHIELD
kindred anvil
or..... CHAINSHIELD
I can get behind that
buoyant maple
not anymore?????
u need pretty ridiculous dmg stacking to reach crusher 1 tap without ult so it's not like that matters that much tbh
kindred anvil
I've been playing vermintie a bunch and I like the weapon + shield weapons too much
buoyant maple
and for havoc it basically always needs ult
buoyant maple
that's the best part
I don't play TH
cosmic sigil
you're not biased then
jovial juniper
Thrust+ Headtaker/Slaughterer
Martyrdom
Fury or Shroud
And you do nothing until a boss shows up
Or a dh spawns
You're literally the guy with 1 job
Don't fuck it up
ripe obsidian
Then mistime your bonk so the captain shield comes back up before you hit them
buoyant maple
I basically don't play melees that are ass vs ragers
cosmic sigil
no ragers during the event 
cosmic sigil
are you still playing the game or just living h24 in the psykh?
buoyant maple
are you still playing the game or just living h24 in the psykh?
guide isn't gonna update itself
also started playing SM2 cuz DT has nothing interesting going on atm
jovial juniper
also started playing SM2 cuz DT has nothing interesting going on atm
What's your main?
buoyant maple
it's ok I don't take Sm2 very seriously
buoyant maple
You probably missed the Perma stun bosses era of bulwark
ik bulwark is still basically the best class
jovial juniper
Tactical Vanguard and Bulwark are my least played
And yup
Bulwark just mogs everything
Even in fashion
I main sniper
buoyant maple
im making my guy a deathwatch space wolf
loud girder
cuz its the only class similar to DT gameplay
assault too
in terms of hyper aggression and burst dmg 
very zealot like
jovial juniper
Power Fist, my beloved
dire wharf
Is SM2 darktide but with space marines in 3rd person view?
tired estuary
No
jovial juniper
Is SM2 darktide but with space marines in 3rd person view?
It's Gears of War but without cover system
tired estuary
Its SM1 except big focus on parryslop
cosmic sigil
im making my guy a deathwatch space wolf
why wolf when shark smh
buoyant maple
why wolf when shark smh
Because space wolf champion’s helmet is cool
cosmic sigil
is it a dog helmet?
loud girder
Is SM2 darktide but with space marines in 3rd person view?
its sm1 and gears of war's baby
buoyant maple
Is SM2 darktide but with space marines in 3rd person view?
It’s quite different from DT
I’d rather say it’s new doom but third person
DT characters are way more durable than SM2 astartes
jovial juniper
It looks good tho
buoyant maple
https://tenor.com/view/nagi-seishiro-blue-lock-bllk-nagi-seishiro-gif-1059753702...
I gotta say
Deathwatch and space wolf specific armor pieces look better than most others
loud girder
It’s quite different from DT
I’d rather say it’s new doom but third person
doom's way faster and more schmovement based
its just sm1
health/armor for executes is just sm1
buoyant maple
health/armor for executes is just sm1
It’s a worse gameplay system than DT’s toughness, gets carried a lot by animation work
loud girder
its hype and aura
they made the executes too long/flashy and were like oh shit lets just slap iframes on doing them
and since the player literally cant be harmed in the animation and can perma farm armor lets make hp not too tanky and rely on chp 
it works but dt is indeed better designed
buoyant maple
Why does SM2 not have diff perks/armor between loadouts
loud girder
i prefer how sm1 appraoched it tbh, u dont need to spac finishers and when u do its a risk/reward type thing but it was also flawed in the first game cause its also hype and aura game
loud girder
Why does SM2 not have diff perks/armor between loadouts
most requested feature since launch
buoyant maple
most requested feature since launch
lol
loud girder
the devs just say we have no plans everytime 
its so funny when u realize classes like sniper have perks specific to a weapon class and if u swap mid missions that perk is dead
dire wharf
I played the first SM, it was really clunky from what I remember
buoyant maple
Yk I’d love to make a loadout for damage and another for team support for bulwark cuz it’s pretty obvious he has those 2 approaches
loud girder
tbh all what u need for team support is invog icon
can be slammed on dmg builds
invog icon is BROKEN
buoyant maple
tbh all what u need for team support is invog icon
Is that the restore all hp to chp perk
loud girder
u restore chp when u ult and get all of it if you do a finisher, if u have a stim u can just heal mortal wound too lol
this perk single handedly makes bulwark DT tier tanky
because if u know what you're doing YOU CANNOT DIE
loud girder
and its also the perk that makes 90% of pub bulwarks bunch of cowardly bitches who are too afraid to use banner for dmg and chokepoints
loud girder
Then u block 100 shots to get ult back
this perk is hilarious on chaos
u know that terminator that keeps going pew pew
he refills your entire ult in 1 barrage
buoyant maple
this perk is hilarious on chaos
It’s op, period
If it was flat seconds off it would be less op
But because it’s percentage it’s just ridiculous
loud girder
tbf i only make use of it on chaos
takes longer to procc on nids
i rarely find myself just holding shield up and tanking
cause u can just dash into ranged mobs and stunlock them to death
buoyant maple
and its also the perk that makes 90% of pub bulwarks bunch of cowardly bitches w...
Bulwark banner is arb’s Nuncio Aquila if it was good
loud girder
this but unironically
also banner deals good dmg 
use it correctly in chokepoints and u kill all minoris, heavily weaken or kill any majoris inside, get constant armor refills AND deal dmg to the carni you're stunlocking in melee
loud girder
no it does
buoyant maple
Pretty sure it doesn’t?
buoyant maple
When did they change it to work
loud girder
around patch 10 or so
they fixed block stagger not working and made parry perks work with block
they prolly realized 99% of the content creators are using block and avoiding stuff that doesnt work with block lol
buoyant maple
they fixed block stagger not working and made parry perks work with block
They should fix the tooltip then
buoyant maple
Crazy that their tooltips are debatably worse than DT’s
buoyant maple
lemme show u IA in action ill ping u
It’s ok I’m outside rn
loud girder
pinged u anyway
loud girder
Crazy that their tooltips are debatably worse than DT’s
esl ahh tooltips
ripe obsidian
This feels like something you intended to put in Zealot chat.
jovial juniper
Exactly
verbal thistle
sinful olive
I'd say it's fine, personally I'm rolling with bubble knight/meleeker for evaporating crushers. Voidblast would be p good.
glacial field
I'd say it's fine, personally I'm rolling with bubble knight/meleeker for evapor...
idk about melee cause of the constant ravergers spawning
and bursters
sheild boys too
melee can kill the crushers but with a sheild boy in front of 20 crushers gets harder
sinful olive
Eh, you can pivot and grab smite just to delete the busters from long way off if they're that troublesome. Also bubble knight can just mostly ignore reapers because, well, the bubble.
glacial field
maybe
sinful olive
Shield boys get the moonlight greatsword treatment with the FGS
zealous wing
melee can kill the crushers but with a sheild boy in front of 20 crushers gets h...
push attack opens bulwarks, so
glacial field
god i remeber my team in auric got wiped cause a reaper had a disgusting angle on us
sinful olive
Iirc there's a tech or spot to aim for with the fgs where you can still headshot them with their shield up
glacial field
Iirc there's a tech or spot to aim for with the fgs where you can still headshot...
never though of that lmao
ripe obsidian
void strike + venting is alr?
Should work fine
pine oyster
Can someone rate a build for me?
I'm wondering if this is good for general gameplay.
zinc phoenix
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a12ed207-656b-4958-8370-e74839cb8e8e/ps...
i will say no without looking. go to the pins and read the guide
radiant frigate
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a12ed207-656b-4958-8370-e74839cb8e8e/ps...
short answer, no
long answer, noooooo
pine oyster
Any criticism?
radiant frigate
yes, nothing about this is coherent
cara on inferno (you do not do that)
pen flame is alright but you skipped blaze away
the general combination of flamer and fgs, and also flamer and assail
and then warp siphon scrier's
sinful olive
i will say no without looking. go to the pins and read the guide
To add on, that build will work fine in auric, as almost all will, but the flamestaff build posted in the guide allows you to rapidly fire out venting shrieks which clear the goddamn screen.
radiant frigate
all of these are good bits but they do not harmonize one bit
sinful olive
^ that
radiant frigate
you are severely overkilling your horde clear at the cost of other things
i'd be asking myself which parts i want to keep, and then adjust the rest accordingly
pine oyster
yes, nothing about this is coherent
cara on inferno (you do not do that)
pen fla...
Thank you. It means a lot that i'm getting criticism instead of dismissal.
radiant frigate
that is, of course, if you want to optimize and tinker with your build
if you are happy as it is, no need to change
pine oyster
I'm always looking to optimise somewhat.
radiant frigate
the build will still work but some things may feel redundant
pine oyster
I think my biggest mistake was assail.
radiant frigate
if the main weapon is the flamer, assail will feel pointless
if the main weapon is fgs, the flamer will feel pointless
ripe obsidian
FGS and Inferno have a ton of overlap
The only thing FGS does that Inferno doesn't is poke Crushers and bosses
radiant frigate
fgs wants to either have a not-horde-clear staff or a gun
and inferno likes having an anti armor specialist melee
pine oyster
if the main weapon is fgs, the flamer will feel pointless
Would Strike or blast be better?
radiant frigate
a la dueling sword/knife/deimos
ripe obsidian
I'm personally not a huge fan of Scrier's Gaze on Inferno builds, but it's an option.
ripe obsidian
Would Strike or blast be better?
EK if it's a melee-focused build
radiant frigate
Would Strike or blast be better?
blast has solid utility
strike is an old favorite
but i find that electro is most comfortable
all of them have the same little bolts but they are most effective on EK since it has crit bonus as a stat
ripe obsidian
Also, I would very strong recommend taking Mettle and Perfect Timing. Perfect Timing is a 15% global damage boost, and almost every Psyker build is crit-happy
I do have a build guide in the pins, which has templates to help folks craft their own builds. And it has builds from a lot of community members.
rich spindle
I'm personally not a huge fan of Scrier's Gaze on Inferno builds, but it's an op...
This just gave me an evil idea
zinc phoenix
I'm always looking to optimise somewhat.
read the pinned guide
it was assembled specifically to help people
ripe obsidian
This just gave me an evil idea
zealous wing
ye its over 50 builds so you can get a good idea of what is proven to work well, then tinker beyond that
ive got a good allrounder build that can do a little bit of everything that i've almost perfected for my playstyle, and it makes six cry
zealous wing
but i can explain what each part is for and how its used, and maybe one day six will give it a try
radiant frigate
ive got a good allrounder build that can do a little bit of everything that i've...
is it the fidget thing
zealous wing
ye
radiant frigate
i understand these horrors perfectly well
zealous wing
funnily enough i tried other melee, knife is still perfect for it
FGS was the only one prividing decently higher DPS and, the lack of mobility wasnt worth it for this
radiant frigate
i have been enjoying a six-inspired spin on a classic, fgs/ek/bb/shriek/dd
pine oyster
read the pinned guide
I'll give it a long study. thank you.
ripe obsidian
i have been enjoying a six-inspired spin on a classic, fgs/ek/bb/shriek/dd
:D
It makes me happy when my builds help people
rapid goblet
heyo, I have a question about obscurus, there's a single target combo H>L>L, is there a point to do 2 L or just better stick to H>L shorter combo?
radiant frigate
heyo, I have a question about obscurus, there's a single target combo H>L>L, is ...
shank good
ripe obsidian
heyo, I have a question about obscurus, there's a single target combo H>L>L, is ...
The second L does a lot of damage on headshots.
rich spindle
If there’s a crusher I just block cancel h1
rapid goblet
hmmm, I see, good to know
but is there a way to cycle L1>H2 on deimos?
radiant frigate
not without block cancel after h2
rich spindle
H2 light h2 is aite for horde clear
rapid goblet
ok, I get it, thanks for answers
radiant frigate
H2 light h2 is aite for horde clear
talking obscurus i imagine
rich spindle
ye
pine oyster
Damn. Smite doesn't do anything apart from move your enemies.
solar sand
creeping vent with smite can do some ok damage
add in perilous and some elites and you got yourself a bbq
cosmic sigil
Chat, I have used the Mk5 on psyker. I feel I am not ethical anymore. it was with EP bb tho.
solar sand
i did the smite penance the other day and i was top damaging using near perma smite creeping shriek
cosmic sigil
Yeah but you're making the game miserable for everyone.
solar sand
oh i only did it as much as i needed to
pine oyster
-_- another one of these things.
jovial juniper
Damn. Smite doesn't do anything apart from move your enemies.
It can also detonate bursters
cosmic sigil
pine oyster
Shoving can do that.
jovial juniper
Your shoving doesn't have 15 meters dawg
pine oyster
It has a 360 aoe
jovial juniper
But not 15 meters dawg
zealous wing
have you tried a trauma staff
its got good burster push range
(if you know how to knock the bursters over rather than make them go boom)
jovial juniper
See? This is how you downscale smite
zealous wing
if you know how to manoeuvre your assail you can use assail to push them from 50 meters or so 
even further than trauma
jovial juniper
And considering that smite can just keep going from target to target
It is still hard to downscale smite's maximum range
zealous wing
every smyker i have played with cannot dodge, including the ones who say they can
zealous wing
no i pay SPECIAL attention to the ones who say they can
jovial juniper
#buffGunlugger
zealous wing
true
zealous wing
Observation bias
jovial juniper
I wonder if my Psyker is still named ReworkSmite
jovial juniper
Yeah it needs a rework
ripe obsidian
jovial juniper
I need to save this for future reference
fathom adder
smite needs a serious rework to not be such a trap blitz
"Smite now spreads faster, stuns enemies faster, and generates less Peril. Its damage has been lowered to compensate, we feel this change has helped it become the CC tool it was meant to be"
jovial juniper
zealous wing
long as it stays in this pattern (wtf hivescum, and, the fact oggy box and nuke can be interchangeable here hurts me for oggy sake) i'd take anything that doesnt lock players down and cause a 4 man team to automatically become a 3 man team with a respawn anchor
only thing is at least oggy nuke can kill trash beyond what the box seems to, difficulty wise regarding hp
hence its placement, while box is more of a stagger tool at a point where nuke still nukes something
smite in concept is cool
in practice, its boring, both to play and to play around, and 99.9% of psykers using it are using it the entire time, being an actual liability
if they made it a burst fire with a cooldown, with more damage to compensate, it'd work far better
distant burrow
how do i charge the sword on pc?
solar sand
i just miss the extra chain of smite applying to surge staff
solar sand
i think mb4 actually default
zealous wing
solar sand
i was today years old when i learned how stupid parry is for bosses
zealous wing
it can be good
solar sand
ive just been using my mk4 as a walking stick
zealous wing
just be careful
solar sand
and a boss blocker/dodger
zealous wing
it can make you explode
solar sand
yeah i parried a crusher overhead once last game and it gave me anxiety
jovial juniper
Note: mk5 parry is stronger than 2/4
zealous wing
mk5 is the one with the strikedown h1, right?
or maybe h1 and h2... havent messed with all the weapon marks yet
solar sand
almost there, i shoulda done this one ages ago
jovial juniper
mk5 is the one with the strikedown h1, right?
Both heavies are vertical slashes yup
zealous wing
looks like someone needs the martyr skulls
solar sand
yeah those are new to me, i only have a few
last time i played was basically the .13 reworks
zealous wing
woof
ye you got work
most of them are fairly easy
a couple require two people
archivum, excise vault, hab dreyko, ascension riser take two
i keep forgetting dreyko and ascension exist for some reason
solar sand
damn i need like 17, thatll take a minute
zealous wing
if you ever wanna just get them done or need the 2nd person, i'm generally available before this time and know where they all are/how to do them
i enjoy penance assisting
viscid viper
How long did the private party penance take you? That's the only one I have left
viscid viper
I just meant attempts
zealous wing
soon as you get a private game set up for it with people who know not to hit the boss
viscid viper
Good deal
zealous wing
i've never had to have any repeat mission attempts with anyone getting the penance, though a couple have had to get the 2nd monster spawn rather than the 1st if they get eaten or killed
solar sand
It’s also only 50% now, wasn’t it 100% of the damage before?
zealous wing
first thing to know is, its not 50 dmg , its 50% of its hp bar, but easiest guarentee is, deal as much dmg with BB as you can incase someone else needs to kill it
and yeah, it used to be the entire thing
i generally have people still do 100% (or as close as they can before injury in some cases)
theres been one case where i had to finish the boss off but they still got the penance
viscid viper
I'm guessing best way to get private game is havoc missions?
zealous wing
and one case where they for 48/50
zealous wing
I'm guessing best way to get private game is havoc missions?
not ideal to attempt in havocs, and dunno if it counts as private in that regard. would need someone to test
depending on the havoc you'll be dealing with much more HP than necessary, and need to make sure its a level that counts as heresy or higher
zealous wing
I'm guessing best way to get private game is havoc missions?
mission terminal, set game to private, pick dark communion on heresy, get 2 boss spawn chances before mid event, then get a guarentee boss at mid event, then another 2 chance after mid event before end event (if i remember the triggers correctly here) (edit to add, there are more im remembering now, but it doesnt really matter, its heresy not h40 lol )
ie, youll pretty much always get 2 bosses on dark communion, and can get it done within 5 minutes if you get the first possible trigger
viscid viper
ie, youll pretty much always get 2 bosses on dark communion, and can get it done...
Nice, thanks
verbal thistle
ripe obsidian
Poke
marble crater
One target for full damage, second target for tickle damage
jade karma
what perks for force swords?
marble crater
I use flak and maniac for illisi, maniac and carapace for deimos, carapace and unyielding for greatswords
deft stump
ie, youll pretty much always get 2 bosses on dark communion, and can get it done...
Less than 5 if it THAT spawn and team is competent. Lul.
jade karma
whats a good setup for duelling sword?
im pairing it with an inferno staff and subsequent build
solar sand
i think this is the meta one, or do you mean build?
solar sand
well cleave might not be meta but
i only use it to poke single targets so i like it as my speedy walking stick with mobility
jade karma
it's specifically this build in the google doc https://docs.google.com/document/d/11Av6T7DJRkm78M3csiZec6p7-cHXOWiKyjpOJ-FWV3g/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.pvyhlc2qu3ea
solar sand
might want to swap one of those for maniac for mutant break points but idk quite where those are and what diffs you play in for it to matter
is this damage for inferno staff just the initial hit or does it affect the dot at all?
solar sand
whats our best build for the current event, voidblast? br does ok but too many to br down
dull scroll
jade karma
whatre the general important trinket perks for psykers
dull scroll
cd, gunner res
narrow herald
whatre the general important trinket perks for psykers
Deez
jade karma
cd, gunner res
cd?
dull scroll
yes, cool down
jade karma
you mean combat ability regen?
dull scroll
yes
jade karma
aight
timber moon
Trying to make a speedy/the speediest psyker build. Any suggestions to improve this build?
sinful olive
If the goal is fast, a gun you can sprint with would probably be your best bet. if you're trying to stay as mobile is possibly with a staff, EK wins in that area.
timber moon
Thinking about getting that extra -10% peral in the middle bottom catagory so it'll be less stressful having to quell so often with an extreme amount of passive quelling on hand
timber moon
If the goal is fast, a gun you can sprint with would probably be your best bet. ...
Electro staff?
timber moon
Do elaborate
sinful olive
fastest charging time, doesn't take long at all for the charged m2 to go out, m1 fucks shit up with crit headshots, very high and quick peril generation which plays into SG's mechanic of letting you overcap on peril without exploding, etc.
timber moon
fastest charging time, doesn't take long at all for the charged m2 to go out, m1...
I don't want to really overcap on peril ngl
Because overcapping on peril actually lessens speed while using SG
sinful olive
Not saying that's the goal, just that if you do need to go apeshit with the charged m2 you can freely with SG.
timber moon
It's why I have the 20% movement speed buff for SG, it doesn't pair well if you overcape
sinful olive
also iirc it has the highest innate crit chance.
timber moon
How does this look?
Not heavy needy on damage since this is more of a support "I am behind the frontlines of the enemy" build due to the speedy aspects in mind
sinful olive
if the goal is fastest that seems to be what you'd want
pale matrix
is malefic momentum worth it on flame staff psyker?
solar sand
only if you're weaving in melee
pale matrix
which laspistol mark is best?
also, should I keep force greatsword warp resist as low as possible?
rich spindle
How does this look?
solid theme, I see what youre going for, but the staff is very slow, you shouldnt be running with it out, so building for stamina and sprint efficiency is not the best idea. Similarly the ability to shoot while sprinting from run and gun isnt very useful, you're gonna be spamming this from a safe zone, or shooting 2 shots at a specialist and then switching off. Try this out for yourself: 60% charge rate, flak/maniac perks, surge/warp nexus blessings, and spam lmb on every enemy. You will feel a large power increase
timber moon
solid theme, I see what youre going for, but the staff is very slow, you shouldn...
Yeah that's why I went for inferno initially so it'll do crowd control while sprinting, albiet not as much as it would be if it wasn't in a speed build
With barrage too so it'll become more powerful while spamming so I can run, throw fire to keep enemies away, switch to knife to extra speed boost, backstab, repeat
I might switch to a proper gun build with dodge equipped but I'll have to look into it since I haven't done many psyker gun builds outside one laz pistol which was only used for elite killing to power up a god-tier smite
rich spindle
I like how you think
timber moon
Yeah. I will probobly just go ahead and switch back to inferno
Like there is a reason I chose run and gun
Sure, flame spam ain't that insane powerful without a soulburn build around it or focus on secondary attacks, but that push is enough for a lot of situations
Plus it doesn't dampen my teammate's ammo economy
Blaze away with run and gun for easy sprinty flame power.
rich spindle
slam or corruption?
verbal thistle
vore + fire from fire barrel
so its a BoN death
and a crusher captain death
today sucks
ripe obsidian
is this damage for inferno staff just the initial hit or does it affect the dot ...
does not affect DoT
"This talent does two things:
(1) After executing a charged secondary attack (at least 95% charged) with any Force Staff, increases the damage of staff primary attacks (left-clicks) by 20%.
(2) After executing a primary attack (left-click) with any Force Staff, increases the damage of charged secondary attacks by 10%.
The 5s duration of each buff starts after the respective weapon actions and can be refreshed during active duration. Both buffs stack additively with other damage buffs, and multiplicatively with power level buffs from weapon blessings.
For Inferno Staff, note that both of this talent's buffs only increase the damage of the flame direct hit, Soulblaze damage is unaffected."
The only staff I'd even consider Channeled Force on, I think, is Electrokinetic + Scrier's Gaze with no melee focus. I just don't think it's very good. Weaving in LMB isn't the most difficult thing, but it can screw with your rhythm. Charging RMB to 95% or higher is just not very optimal.
If you want to force yourself to upkeep a buff, just do Malefic Momentum instead. It lasts longer and is a bigger boost.
ripe obsidian
splat
zealous wing
im pairing it with an inferno staff and subsequent build
first step of pairing it with inferno is replacing it with a deimos force sword with uncanny strike
radiant frigate
first step of pairing it with inferno is replacing it with a deimos force sword ...
but ds good too
radiant frigate
i still consider knife a lesser DS
wraith sphinx
Really? I'd consider that to be the taxe
Knife is its own thing for me, it only has an attack movetech similar to ds
zinc phoenix
finally getting parry on the ds made it more fun imo
idk where it stands as a stat stick but its much more enjoyable to play it
wraith sphinx
opposite for me
I just play taxe now instead because stagger special is too fun to not have
radiant frigate
Really? I'd consider that to be the taxe
offensively maybe
but DS and knife both have elite mobility
whereas taxe just has alright mobility
taxe also does not have uncanny
wraith sphinx
I s'pose
manic bluff
hello! is it just me or are the penances with kinetic flayer active still bugged?
they used to work as a friend did the brainburst penances with kinetic flayer btu now they do not
dire wharf
I don't recall kf procs counting towards the bb penance
If thats what you're asking
I completed mine a few weeks ago
manic bluff
my friend completed his last year before scum got released and they deffo did count then
cuz he never triggers bb by hand xD
i mean there are multiple bb penances and it currently counts for none
dire wharf
Yeah, that's pretty dumb imo
manic bluff
k bug has been reportet since september '25 on FS bug forum and has been acknowledged by the Devs
tidal patrol
Does the brain rupture trait on all attacks, trigger every 12 seconds per target or 12 seconds from target to target?
dire wharf
12 seconds per proc
tidal patrol
That's sad.
manic bluff
more thna enough xD if the penances wouldn't bug xD
marble crater
If it were per target it would be way too strong
summer prairie
purg would immediately make everything explode
tidal patrol
If it were per target it would be way too strong
I am aware, that's what I wanted though. xD
summer prairie
or shriek
marble crater
KF is still a great talent
tidal patrol
I'm doing a force greatsword, and I was battling myself between that and the eletrocute on heavy attacks.
For extra damage.
Might give a try to the electrocute trait.
marble crater
Assail and right side talents for peak melee psyker
tidal patrol
Wait, assail?
barren arrow
Assail is quite underrated especially for scrier's & dd I will say
tidal patrol
Why Assail?
barren arrow
Ranged goober annihilator 3 billion
marble crater
Because you can throw it, switch back to melee and the darts will still fly for a bit
tidal patrol
I am aware it's a range annihilator.
barren arrow
I literally never use the brain burst outside of KF for anything other than the occasional disrupt destiny gimme and sniper ranged pick, which (asides from the sniper) the assail just does better, faster, and with more horde clear
Also is fantastic for malefic momentum
tidal patrol
Oh yeah, malefic momentum forgot bout that one.
manic bluff
only reason i use BB is because penances ...
it takes way to long to activate and does way to little for that duration. without kinetic flayer to me it is the most useless psyker blitz ^^'
but maybe i just suck at using it
marble crater
BB is for KF and the occasional special to snipe if you have nothing else to do and can't reach it otherwise, like dogs, trappers, snipers. Maybe a few gunners you can just target and then go back into cover, because they have everyone pinned down. Last one is pretty rare though
manic bluff
yeah it is very very niche
and dominates psycher penances xD
there are liek 6 penances for bb
dire wharf
BB is nice for this event
manic bluff
agree to disagree, i think assail is better
dire wharf
Assail on crushers?
manic bluff
well, assail into FGS ^^
especially with the hordes of ogryn its so sweet as it pierces them
jovial juniper
Double shield bb is really good for this event yeah
manic bluff
yeah it is 6 BB penances, just counted them
dire wharf
well, assail into FGS ^^
Does assail pop poxbursters?
manic bluff
Does assail pop poxbursters?
a single one, no. multiple ones sometimes. but since they fly rather far the tend to pop them safely
just have to take care not to spam assail when the bursters are close
regal jasper
Me when i foresee my imminent demise and my pronouns are it so i warn my beloved
zealous wing
Why Assail?
free +25% damage
vs the 4 ticks of miniscule damage charged smite strikes gives
thorn cedar
Charged Strike damage is actually pretty good now.
zealous wing
plus assail is just fun
zealous wing
Charged Strike damage is actually pretty good now.
is it? last i checked it did like 4 ticks of 40 damage on a rager
thorn cedar
The problem is ..... like we don't really have a single weapon that chains sweeping heavies that is both good enough to use but not so good that it's already killing whatever you're heavy attacking.
zealous wing
like, a month ago
thorn cedar
It's closer to 300 damage now.
zealous wing
also yeah youd have to use something like the devils claw
thorn cedar
Without bonuses of any kind.
zealous wing
basically its still just a gimmick take
thorn cedar
I wouldn't even call it a gimmick cause it has no real place lol
It doesn't fulfill any kind of role. And you really don't have to take it anyway.
I would not be against FatShark giving us a new weapon designed from the ground up for charged strike.
Something with good impact and excellent cleave but low finesse.
(On its heavies)
I think the ideal scenario is being able to cleave and stun four Ragers.
dull scroll
they need to make charged strike to actually electrocute things
zealous wing
would be weird having two blitzs do that tho
dull scroll
as in stun
thorn cedar
Dclaw mk1 is probs the best use case but it's still bad because you want ragers attacking so you can parry them
zealous wing
assail is phenomenal rager stagger
thorn cedar
well yes but assail is dookie against ogryns
charged strike would hypothetically be better
also its just having options for fun
zealous wing
and smite is terrible at damage, and BB is terrible against multiple targets
thorn cedar
nah thats what im saying
stunlock + 300+ extra dps per heavy isnt bad on paper, we just don't have a weapon that really makes use of it well
.... what if it charged strike was just all attacks hmm
jovial juniper
Something with good impact and excellent cleave but low finesse.
Also -mass blessing
jade karma
first step of pairing it with inferno is replacing it with a deimos force sword ...
eh i dont really like the deimos force sword
thorn cedar
eh i dont really like the deimos force sword
heresy
thorn cedar
Also -mass blessing
or something perfect strike-y
manic bluff
i love my assail, bubble, fgs and boltgun psyker :3
what i kinda miss are effective low peril builds, most builds just taregt high peril juggling
thorn cedar
so it matches ur face
thorn cedar
okay no that's a fucked statement
manic bluff
also first thign my friend mentioned when i used it was: are you hitting your enemies with a ||di*do||?
pine oyster
Hah.
manic bluff
the deimos that is
pine oyster
Ball knowledge.
manic bluff
problem is: i can not unsee it now xD
zealous wing
Force swords just suck to use, imo
ah so they suck?
zealous wing
problem is: i can not unsee it now xD
then get one of the skins lol
pine oyster
ah so they suck?
you know i meant they don't mesh well with my playstyle, heathan
zealous wing
not really
pine oyster
if anything, it's more or less a showcase of the flame staff