#psyker-class

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modern bluff
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So whatevs. Not here to try and convince people who don't have an open mind

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It works, it just doesn't work for you

radiant frigate
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it's not about "convincing" us
we know what it does
we just also know that you'd be better off using nexus surge instead of nexus blaze

ripe obsidian
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Going into H40 with an un-upgraded staff and no keystone works for some people. Doesn't mean it's a good idea.

radiant frigate
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or surge blaze

marble crater
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Flurry Surge even

modern bluff
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I'll stream one more time in Strike Party 2. Come make your arguments.

radiant frigate
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or just anything other than blazing spirit voidstrike

modern bluff
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or don't join and continue to prove me right that most of you lack any creativity other than "meta"

radiant frigate
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only way i see it working is true aim triggered with something else and then surge for immediate 6 stack application

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whata re you going to show us, how PC makes the special pack in the psykhanium combust perpetually?

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unrelated to blazing spirit

modern bluff
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Yeah so Kat's blockd for just being argumentative

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Geez

ripe obsidian
modern bluff
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So stubborn for no reason

radiant frigate
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ok cool floppathumbsup

rich spindle
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I’ll go ahead and block them too

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That isn’t allowed here

modern bluff
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It's not about the disagreement. It's the fact that I'm in the channel literally demonstrating that it works and all of the <:) people are just... being <:) kinda people

rich spindle
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Yeah it’s awful I’m sorry

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I blocked six too

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Sorry six

ripe obsidian
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</3

radiant frigate
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just because voidstrike works with an empty blessing slot does not mean it wouldn't work better with two blessings

rich spindle
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Everyone knows that blazing spirit is 90% of the build and pc and shriek just pick up the 10% slack

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That’s why I take it on my Illisi

radiant frigate
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real

crisp ether
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Blazing spirit is the best blessing

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Hands down

radiant frigate
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bloodthirsty blazing spirit

crisp ether
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Nothing better

radiant frigate
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let's go

crisp ether
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I feel weird being facetious about this when I do unironically kinda like blazing spirit on force swords even if it's not the best option

marble crater
rich spindle
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Fuck it. I’m blocking everyone in the server

radiant frigate
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i'm blocking myself

rich spindle
radiant frigate
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||help i can no longer see my own messages||

primal oriole
crisp ether
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But ya I wish blazing spirit on voidstrike was bettur

rich spindle
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I use bloodthirsty blaze Illisi sometimes to see it

crisp ether
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I just run riposte and let the light spam guide the wheel chadgryn

radiant frigate
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gotta make sure your swings are not lethal enough to kill immediately

marble crater
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I wish blazing spirit on melee was at least usable Sitgryn

crisp ether
crisp ether
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It just isn't the best.

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But then again

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This is psyker we're talking about

marble crater
radiant frigate
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especially not on force swords

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power + uncanny too good to pass

crisp ether
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On gah it's usable

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Not good

radiant frigate
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nononono we are not doing this again mercyy

crisp ether
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We are in fact doing this again

marble crater
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It's as usable as any weapon with one blessing I guess

radiant frigate
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usable yes good no case closed next please

rich spindle
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Itll have some measurable effect at least once during the game with the one handed swords

crisp ether
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I want to see all the Blaze knights step up to the plate

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New h40 meta

radiant frigate
rich spindle
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Uncanny is for noobs anyway

radiant frigate
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ignoring armor is like, cheating

crisp ether
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I am respectfully asking fatshark to give force swords shiv uncanny

rich spindle
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Executor slaughterer Illisi with dd stacks kills crushers pretty fast

radiant frigate
crisp ether
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Honestly even 40% rending would still be really good

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Just not absolutely giga strong for soulblaze

white sky
rich spindle
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But only 1% weapons in the game can deal with carapace…

crisp ether
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Anything else is just bad

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Except the Blaze Force swords

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Those get a pass because I like blue fire

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Oh what do I do

radiant frigate
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perhaps uncanny would be less needed if crushers weren't full cara

crisp ether
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About this crusher in front of me

radiant frigate
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and had some actual weakpoints

crisp ether
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With my devil's claw 😢

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I'm am completely helpless

dire wharf
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So much blocking, should I be looking for a +stamina curio

radiant frigate
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depends on what weapon you're using and whether or not you have KD

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if KD and force sword or knife or dueling sword yes

rich spindle
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I don’t know anyone that takes stam on psyker

crisp ether
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KD carries

radiant frigate
rich spindle
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Crazy person

radiant frigate
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doubled effective block ability

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because for some reason KD generates peril not based on how much stam something costs to block, no no
it generates peril based on how much of your max stam it costs to block

ornate hamlet
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got dang, this here deflection sure is got dang kinetic, ain't it

rich spindle
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It’s ok it was the before times

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When psyker was actually squishy

ornate hamlet
rich spindle
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Funny that they chose %of max for kd but straight to true peril conversion for just a dream

dire wharf
rich spindle
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Yeah

thorn cedar
rich spindle
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Crazy guys

thorn cedar
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i aint gonna deny

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i wish we had a fucken

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warp shield weapon

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the amount of blocking tomfoolery i could get up to, omg

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if i do take warp ghost tho i drop it buuuuuuut

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more and more im kinda passing on it

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warp ghost i mean

ornate hamlet
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It's a tad bit costly, I find

spice aurora
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Upvoted comments sayin fgs is the wrong weapon for rotted

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And shudve used purg

xddddddddddddddddddddddd

crisp ether
spice aurora
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most comments are not insane but there is always that one chain of comments saying some crazy shi with all the upvotes

lament quail
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Holy shit this build is a shreder and i have only level 14

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I barely have half of it

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No Empyric Resolve v2 my goat

crisp ether
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Then to go

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Erm. Well try the sword and then the staff in psykanium and one is the clear victor 🤓

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Neglecting to understand that flame staff by itself is actually horrible against rotten crushers and uncanny basically carries it

dire wharf
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BFG should get uncanny. For balance reasons.

rich spindle
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Anyone that has played enough purg would know that it wouldn’t be much faster ttk than what bruh did in the video. In fact given the amount of crushers in the front of the train it would probably even be harder

crisp ether
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Also "penetrating flame"

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I really don't think this person has ever actually tried to use just the purge staff on rot

ripe obsidian
lament quail
crisp ether
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20% brittleness helps but it does not make you kill rot that much faster lol

lament quail
dusky crag
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I've said that for so long

zealous wing
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everyone struggles in different areas

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some people find peril easy to manage, some cant at all, some flip depending on the day

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build around what you can do, cover the struggles/weaknesses, and you'll be fine

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(except crystalline will and wounds. dont do those)

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(unless suipsyker specifically)

rich spindle
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I’ve never overloaded in this game ever

zealous wing
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lies

rich spindle
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I’ve haven’t ever lost a game either

zealous wing
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show me your "going out with a bang" penance

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lol

rich spindle
zealous wing
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beautiful, carry on

median furnace
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Glorious Imperial propaganda.

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One cannot lose if one has faith.

rustic vapor
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Guys, hi, first time here, i have a question. Why inferno psy is meta now? like i get it, its effective and easy, but what you do when 2-5 crushers rush you on aurix? I made smite empowered+void staff build, and this type off loadout at least give you options to stun enemy's until they die, i don't understand, what you supposed to do, when crasher\ragger's rush hits you, with inferno, no melee weapon can save you from such rush, or maybe i use wrong masteries?

marble crater
thorn cedar
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how could you have questions

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its conclusive proof

rich spindle
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Ask away my student

zealous wing
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i have answers

rich spindle
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I will enlighten you

median furnace
marble crater
rich spindle
zealous wing
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smite locks you down, and deals nearly no damage

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and you will die, a lot

rustic vapor
zealous wing
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with uncanny stacking they do

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if you want pure meta, inferno shriek is that

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if you want h40 viable, there are many more options

marble crater
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You can also just dodge and hit them with your melee, which should be for big targets when using inferno

zealous wing
lament quail
zealous wing
marble crater
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A meme

lament quail
zealous wing
radiant frigate
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makes it so you are not downed when you explode, and if your explosion kills an elite it does not do corruption damage

zealous wing
lament quail
radiant frigate
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should i join the psysiphus project 🤔

zealous wing
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no

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make your own

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psysiphus is mine

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:(

marble crater
zealous wing
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i am very proud of that pun

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you dont even play with me anymore, you dont get a say >:(

radiant frigate
marble crater
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I will download Darktide again later loregryn

rich spindle
rustic vapor
zealous wing
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internet went out >:[

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phone typing time

marble crater
zealous wing
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blazing...

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sword

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pls

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pls tell me it wasnt gandalf

crisp ether
rustic vapor
crisp ether
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Embrace the true force sword meta

zealous wing
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true force sword meta, one blessing and a dud

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surely

rustic vapor
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melee force sword psyker super fun indeed

crisp ether
zealous wing
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im more mad puncture works on fgs slash but bøazing doesnt

crisp ether
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True honestly

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😔

crisp ether
marble crater
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@zealous wing for my first game in 3 months or so I shall play smite, with blazing spirit deimos and burn dump stat inferno

zealous wing
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im not gonna fight the typos

crisp ether
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You probably wanna change blazing spirit for something else on your sword

zealous wing
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do it, ill win with me EP knife assail build

rustic vapor
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why than nobody use void stuff? its not bad when you lern how to spam\charge it, isnt it?

zealous wing
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trauma is great, strike is not

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i love voidblast, (trauma)

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fav staff

marble crater
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Strike is not bad, others are just better

rustic vapor
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hm

zealous wing
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i hate strike

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i tried

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i still have it even, and keep trying

marble crater
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Skill issue loregryn

zealous wing
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i just, if i want to shoot things i use ek or trauma

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or a gun

rich spindle
zealous wing
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in fact i run surge rending trauma rn and its hella fun in my fidget build

rustic vapor
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why??? its can damage everything just fine, or stun so you dont take unneseary damage. also long range cleanup

marble crater
zealous wing
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behold (loading)

lament quail
zealous wing
marble crater
zealous wing
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there

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behold my ADHD heaven

marble crater
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It does look fun, but no staregryn

rustic vapor
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but so does strike blasts

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yes?

marble crater
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Voidstrike does sound very satisfying

zealous wing
marble crater
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My hands broke watching this

rustic vapor
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okay 1 last question, should i or should i not use empyric resolve talent? its feels glass canon with it

zealous wing
marble crater
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You should (biased)

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Take Warp Ghost as well and profit

zealous wing
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(zoomies edition)

marble crater
rustic vapor
marble crater
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What loregryn

rustic vapor
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pasive queil not req when range warp build? i good with sword, but when whole build have 0 talents put in melee...

marble crater
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Just nice to keep peril high between fights

zealous wing
rustic vapor
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and if i dont crys will?)

zealous wing
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dont explode

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or if you do, dont explode alone

marble crater
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The two talents are not related

rustic vapor
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ok, i will try, thx for answers

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no, sorry one more, what perk\bless for inferno?

zealous wing
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blaze away / warp nexus
flak unyielding or flak crit chance, depends how much you hate bulwarks

rustic vapor
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thx)

zealous wing
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crit then

rich spindle
rustic vapor
zealous wing
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unless they're unstaggerable ragers

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tolled or red stimmed for example

rustic vapor
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ah ok

crisp ether
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I think ourple too

zealous wing
rustic vapor
zealous wing
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i could have helped, but i dont enjoy playing a paused game kek let him learn a little lesson first

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he stopped smiting to deal with it so THEN i helped

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it teaches SUCH bad habits

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every single smite user i've played with insists they're good with it.... then they die, over, and over and over, fatshark really shouldnt have it be the way it is

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it hurts so much more than it helps their malice permasmyker dev

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(not a joke, saw that in the wild)

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they learn poor positioning, get backstabbed, go down, then get hurt when i mention that i did warn them about this being a common issue

rustic vapor
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you nevver met even 1 who use it proper?

marble crater
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Of course there are people who use it well, it's just that smite is such a visually obvious ability that it's really obvious when it's used badly

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People also fuck up brain burst and assail, but you will never notice those

dire wharf
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I consider myself a jack of all trades. I screw everything up

rich spindle
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Ironically the key to being good at smite is being good at everything besides smite so you know when smite is actually needed

zealous wing
# rustic vapor you nevver met even 1 who use it proper?

ive only played with 2 people who used smite well. one was recent, and they only used smite once, to get a mutant to drop me at the very very end of a mission. and the other was beans using smite charged strike for a staff bonk only auric run

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if i see smite, its at the point where i watch that player like a hawk in my peripheral. if the cosplay a shockmine i leave them to their fate. i want to fight things not watch the crushers dance among the bulwarks where a single kill will unlock them all from the stun long enough to overhead someone

marble crater
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There are people who don't like smykers and then there is Hexis

zealous wing
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i am fine with a smite user who is sparing.

that is not what a smyker is.

smykers have to learn their lesson the hard way at that point

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i wont actively barrel a smyker though, unlike some.

slender palm
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damn you people actually discuss builds here

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zealous wing
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this is the nerd chat

slender palm
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compared to zealot chat it's hilarious

zealous wing
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zealot is memes/horny jail

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oggy is farming simulator/food/rock praising as ive notated so far

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fitting i must say

slender palm
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math adds up

image.png
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from that chat

slender palm
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rock

zealous wing
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rock

marble crater
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Vet is also builds + numbers

slender palm
zealous wing
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probably a lot of people arguing with path about something in the vet guide without knowing path wrote the guide

zealous wing
slender palm
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accurate*

jovial juniper
ripe obsidian
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My understanding of the chats:

Vet: people argue with Path
Zealot: horny
Psyker: everyone argues with each other, and we all hate smite
Ogryn: friends
Arbitrator: nothing to discuss
Scum: never been in there, so I have no idea

jovial juniper
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Arbites

slender palm
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so far the AI summaries confirm

jovial juniper
slender palm
zealous wing
marble crater
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I thought Arby was full of people showing off their different outfits and fashion

zealous wing
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bit of both ik but which is more

ripe obsidian
white sky
marble crater
ripe obsidian
zealous wing
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driptide is colourblindness, outfit voting, lore checking, coping

white sky
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That feels like 90 percent of arb chat tbh

rich spindle
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Psyker chat is build debates about doing 1 billion dam and regenerating 800 toughness per second vs doing 1.1 billion dam and regenerating 700 toughness per second

white sky
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Its either that or arguing about how necessary TG actually is

azure parcel
marble crater
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Yes

ripe obsidian
white sky
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That is also how I feel about it.

ripe obsidian
azure parcel
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I love the fact that Vet chat always has one guy arguing with Path on pure vibes

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Like it's basically guaranteed to happen once a day

cosmic sigil
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The best advice for zealot are found in vet or psyker chat tbh

zealous wing
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same

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i ask here

white sky
marble crater
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How does Path have time to play?

white sky
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I gotta turn this thing off man

zealous wing
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i also have my fledglings ask here kekw

jovial juniper
white sky
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Zealot chat is tolerable depending on which clique is there at the moment ngl

zealous wing
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NEVER go to zealot chat if you want serious direct answers

ripe obsidian
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I don't leave Psyker chat often because I am too dumb for the other classes

white sky
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Sometimes you'll get those, it's just exceptionally rare

slender palm
ripe obsidian
zealous wing
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ye but thats ainz

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so

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doesnt count

white sky
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Tox is helpful

jovial juniper
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Meow mentioned

white sky
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Or lethal proxy goblin now

jovial juniper
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🗣️

slender palm
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seems fair here

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azure parcel
slender palm
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arbites hasnt had a chat worthy of AI summary in a day

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azure parcel
white sky
slender palm
white sky
slender palm
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game felt awfulf or me yday too

azure parcel
zealous wing
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game has been rough 2 days

white sky
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I tried playing last night too, also felt terrible. Heard 6 gb patch just fucked everything.

azure parcel
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I'm being absolutely serious when I say this, I think most people in Zealot and general chats severely need to get off the internet and touch grass

zealous wing
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poxxers would not be pushed, bursters not being voc shouted away, nor shrieked

white sky
slender palm
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for me the FPS issues are really bad

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and also i notice lag in more games (connection issues)

white sky
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The fps is bad and I'm getting DC'd often

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Yeah

azure parcel
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I faced a crazy amount of FPS drops and stuttering yesterday

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Was restarting client after every game

slender palm
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it's so sad.. i start the game, 90-100 fps in the ship. in game it starts dropping worse and worser, and after an hour i get 30 fps in the fucking mourninstar

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mourningstar

radiant frigate
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just noticed something funny

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remember how there was that one patch that changed a ton of weapon names?

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descriptions didn't follow suit

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current vraks is still described as columnus

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current columnus is still described as graia

slender palm
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that's pretty lazy

radiant frigate
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i wonder if the wizarding sticks also reflect this

verbal thistle
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The cosmetics from the coin shop also didn't change

radiant frigate
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turns out no, psyker staff descriptions make no mention of their names

ripe obsidian
slender palm
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i think

radiant frigate
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i'm sure arbites is a perfectly playable class

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but they're not funny and they have no drip

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F tier

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hive scum, on the other hand? S tier

slender palm
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yeah it's a real shame. all personalities are bad and boring

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barely any dialogue

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at least t hey added unit descriptions like sexus minoris which is funny

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with vets 'traxis'

verbal thistle
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The hound won't trouble us now, the hound won't trouble us now!

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I loved that audio bug

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Them just repeating their lines

ripe obsidian
dire wharf
radiant frigate
slender palm
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why does this spideysense mod exist wtf

verbal thistle
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People with audio problems

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I had someone who can't hear out of their right ear

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Always would get trapped

slender palm
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yeah but look at how many downloads it has. i can imagine some people are cheesing with it

verbal thistle
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Probably

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But who's to say, I don't use it

ripe obsidian
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Also because audio is often bugged in this game

dire wharf
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What does it do

ripe obsidian
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Visual indicators of specialists

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So warns you of the general location of special enemies without needing audio cues

slender palm
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lots of connection issues are causing the audio cues to not pop too i think

rich spindle
slender palm
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luckily fatshark admitted this by now and are on toip of it ofc.. /s

verbal thistle
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Darktide with no bugs would be too easy

dire wharf
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Honestly my biggest survival problem lately is trappers and hounds with seemingly missing audio cues

slender palm
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they love taking me all day

cosmic sigil
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what shield maul do you recommend and what are the combos?

rich spindle
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You are guaranteed at least one no audio dog pounce per mission. It is what it is

ripe obsidian
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My biggest issue is usually getting distracted then shredded by trash mobs

verbal thistle
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H40 solo Melee psyker

Attempts: 28

Deaths:
Mauler: 10
Trapper: 5
Dog: 1
Crusher: 4
Shooters: 2
Reaper: 1
Rodin: 1
Cspawn: 2
Burster: 1
Shotgunners: 1

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I think from my 30 attempts yesterday

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Like half were from bugs

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1/3

rich spindle
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Have you made it to bridge event yet

ripe obsidian
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You have been mauled

thorn cedar
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rodin powerscaled to puppy strength

verbal thistle
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2/30 got to mid event

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I've yet to start mid event

ripe obsidian
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What map?

verbal thistle
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Baross

ripe obsidian
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Neat

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Baross's mid event is a little stressful with randoms

dire wharf
rich spindle
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Moving the capsules up the stairs seems so rng based

verbal thistle
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Depending on what spawn wave you get

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I've got it down

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There is 2 spawn wave types

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Ranged or horde

thorn cedar
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you should be allowed to toss the capsule up and bounce it off your head repeatedly while you fight like a jackie chan gag

verbal thistle
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If ranged you got alot more time to get it to the platform, since their pathing takes longer

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If horde you can kill them and then move normally

rich spindle
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The ranged spawn can get really fucked there

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On the bottom and top of stairs

verbal thistle
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Shooter spam

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Yeah

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They camp the stairs

rich spindle
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I wish the stairs were wider

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It’s kinda lame getting body blocked there

verbal thistle
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Lost a run last time because a phat bulwark stood at the top blocking me

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And I got Cspawned

rich spindle
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Would you hold on the bottom once the bridge starts lowering? I always thought it was safer

verbal thistle
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If you are down stairs when the event ends you risk blockade

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Since it's counting furthest progression by the button

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Depends on the situation

rich spindle
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Ah

verbal thistle
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I usually hold in the center near where the batteries are turned in

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I loop like a figure 8

dire wharf
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You got this

verbal thistle
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It'll just take time

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I'm at around 12 hours of attempts

slender palm
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as an arbitrator i feel too intimidated to play the s tier psyker

rich spindle
verbal thistle
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If you are 50 meters back from furthest progression like a 75% chance the next horde spawn will be a group of elites consisting of ragers/bulwarks/reapers/gunners

marble crater
slender palm
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i wanna just smite all day man

verbal thistle
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I don't think it's 75% chance

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But it's a chance

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Maybe like 90%

marble crater
slender palm
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hehe

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like, just smite all match, ignore melee weapon

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that's a skilled psyker

verbal thistle
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I think it's 4 bulwarks, 2 maulers, 2 ragers, 2 gunners, 2 reapers

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Maybe with shooters

rich spindle
verbal thistle
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That was changed

rich spindle
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I c

verbal thistle
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That was season 2-3 blockade

rich spindle
verbal thistle
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It used to be 20 meters back

rich spindle
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I remember that

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Pain

verbal thistle
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I like the idea of blockade

rich spindle
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I was only doing inferno at the time tho so it wasn’t a biggie

verbal thistle
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Because the easiest way to win is to play slow and backup

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Since the game is progression based you counter 99% of what the game has

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Good idea, bad execution (classic fatshark)

rich spindle
verbal thistle
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It's so rare to find a pub who understands how the game works

slender palm
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what's the solution

verbal thistle
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Had a pub get mad at me because 4 monsterous specials spawned

verbal thistle
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But people can't read/don't want to

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I explain the game they ignore me

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Lol

slender palm
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haha i mean honestly im not gonna lie darktide has some unbelievably stupid players in quickplay, ive seen level 400+ classes that still dont understand the fundamentals

verbal thistle
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It's how the game was made

slender palm
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it's fascinating to me

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isnt it common sense when yoou have so many hours to start looking for ways to get better

verbal thistle
#

Really pushes people into having dunning Kruger syndrome

slender palm
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and havoc is.. yeah

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how's the lfg in this discord?

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onc emet some turkish guy in havoc who after a wipe went on a 15 minute rage in voice party chat

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i let him cuz i was stunned

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hahah

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it was kinda hilarious

rich spindle
#

You were going too fast bro

slender palm
#

after i asked him to res

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i just left then

ripe obsidian
#

I like playing with people better than me because I can just go at whatever pace they set

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Problem is, I don't often find people notably better than me in party finder

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The pace that is most comfortable for me is faster than randoms usually like to play

thorn cedar
#

similar reason why i never hold onto medkits

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im usually the last person who is going to feel any of the pressure

ripe obsidian
#

Yeah. I hold onto them too long because I am doing okay and I am not sure if my teammates are feeling stressed

frail oar
#

I always give it to the lowest health player when I pick it up

ripe obsidian
#

I usually throw it at the ogryn if there is one

ripe obsidian
slender palm
#

damnation*

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i was leveling some things

ripe obsidian
#

Makes sense

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People tend to be jerks the lower the difficulty

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Same happened in VT2

frail oar
#

Good players don't need to be told to do that

ripe obsidian
#

People in Cataclysm just chilled, people in Legend and below got angery

frail oar
#

That guy stinks

ripe obsidian
#

And it takes some cognitive load off me

slender palm
#

res

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only thing i said in the mic

ripe obsidian
#

Gods, I wanna play Darktide again. My CPU AIO broke, and I am waiting for the adapter bracket for the new one to arrive

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Curse my apparently old CPU socket.

frail oar
#

Also im rewatching the wire and mcnulty is such a man child

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Great character tho.

ripe obsidian
#

The Wire is the most fame Baltimore will ever get.

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I grew up in that area. It's... something

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It's a city that would be doing a lot better if not for decades of corruption and the weird versus mindset of Maryland versus Baltimore.

white sky
#

Edgar Allan Poe exists

ripe obsidian
#

I think Richmond, Baltimore, and Philly all try to claim Poe.

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We just have the body. >:)

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Well, "we." I don't live there anymore.

zealous mango
#

I only knew of this game because of the discord quests

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and was just trailers

rustic vapor
#

@zealous wing sooo, i tried inferno instead void strike, and yeah, smite not needed here, wildfire and insane stagger on staff do all the job, no need quelling, no need sword, no need ult, no need heal...its like easy mode even on damnation and aurix...

rich spindle
#

are the servers actually worse today

zealous mango
#

Oops i thought this was zealot chat KEKW_ogryn

rich spindle
#

im getting obliterated

rustic vapor
#

smite still fun, but useless, and its just sad)

marble crater
ripe obsidian
rich spindle
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2 no backstab sounds 3 silent dogs and 2 funky shotgunner annihilations

verbal thistle
#

Play solo sal

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No server lag

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Like honestly it's like a whole new game

rich spindle
#

I need an audience...

ripe obsidian
# rustic vapor smite still fun, but useless, and its just sad)

Smite is very strong, except for against a couple Havoc modifiers. However, it tends to be even more boring than Inferno for you and your team. And most Smykers don't know how to deal with situations where you can't smite, which makes them a liability.

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My best example is when I had a Smyker who was too scared to leave a corner even after I had killed or CC'd everything between them and safety

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I did it 3x, and they just stood there, then eventually got overheaded by a red mauler or something

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There's also this gif, courtesy of Ainz.

verbal thistle
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I stand behind them and wait for them to die to something that's avoidable if they used their brain

rustic vapor
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just stop smite if cant control surroundings, its like i want to hold it for max output, but some times just need to stop to not take damage

verbal thistle
#

A classic

ripe obsidian
#

Is this the guy smiting a pogryn?

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Before I click

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Ha, it is.

spice aurora
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hes cc’ing the boss so you can do dps

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psyker has zero boss dps so smite lets you freeze bosses and they take giga dmg +1000000% debuff

rustic vapor
#

and i think smite very good to stop big horde of everything when they close, just to keep team save, or when we need do task or pick up someone, u use it to stop everything, so team can do what need to be done asap

marble crater
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Or just kill the horde staregryn

verbal thistle
#

Sadly psyker just has better tools for that exact scenario

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Smite is just badly designed

rustic vapor
#

yeah, the bigger horde, the stronger smite is)))

verbal thistle
#

So is everything else in psykers kit

rustic vapor
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yep

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but for darh sidius cosplay))))

ripe obsidian
#

Inferno and Voidblast and Shriek are all better tools for hordes. And FGS slash...

verbal thistle
#

Speaking of slash

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It's so dumb

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The things I do in my solo

ripe obsidian
#

It's very good

verbal thistle
#

I can't wait to finish my run

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To upload it

ripe obsidian
#

I want to be as good as Ainz when I grow up

spice aurora
#

fgs slash goat

verbal thistle
#

I might honestly do a voice over to explain what I can thinking/doing in the video

rich spindle
#

that would be a treasure

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im getting my ass kicked in 3veg solo rn

verbal thistle
#

Try a I-II

spice aurora
#

i did that in destiny ppl appreciated it, commentary

jovial juniper
verbal thistle
#

3 vet is just annoying

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Nurgle bless isn't fun

spice aurora
#

wats farthest you got in baross

verbal thistle
#

30 min to die to a green puppy

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At mid event before button press

spice aurora
#

I only tried for like a day but first event then wipe 😢

buoyant maple
#

CIVI solo commsplex

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dream

spice aurora
#

I try to rush out the church in spawn xD

verbal thistle
#

Depends on ambiance but same

spice aurora
#

I can knda kill the first hallway b4 main church and then I gtfo

ripe obsidian
#

I genuinely wonder what percentage of the playerbase is good enough to do the kind of stuff you goofuses do. Or even what quantity. I've got to imagine it's the low hundreds at most.

verbal thistle
#

Here were my attempts from last night

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2/30 got to mid event

spice aurora
#

Is it a mauler that’s charging behind ogryns

verbal thistle
#

Mauler behind bulwark shields

spice aurora
#

Fkn hate that xD

thorn cedar
#

GRRRR LET ME THROUGH

verbal thistle
#

One sec got clip

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Did you see him?

thorn cedar
#

i see his lil axe

spice aurora
#

I guess his feet xD

verbal thistle
#

Ending frame, you see the tip of his chainaxe

spice aurora
#

I never wouldve thought 😢

thorn cedar
#

i like how your dude planked out to death

azure parcel
#

I am gonna start attempting heresy solos today so I can at least consistently stay alive in maels and low havocs

buoyant maple
#

in any case that hound trolled me

verbal thistle
#

Make sure to play good maps for solo

buoyant maple
#

or

azure parcel
#

sycorax or baross right?

verbal thistle
#

Baross best

buoyant maple
#

no man's land might be a good solo map?

verbal thistle
#

Sycorax has terrible spawns

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Ehhhh

azure parcel
#

what about Communion

verbal thistle
#

Dark com is good

buoyant maple
#

less abt objs

verbal thistle
#

I can see it

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Yeah

buoyant maple
rich spindle
#

muties are owning me so bad rn

azure parcel
rich spindle
#

I even have walls...

buoyant maple
#

spawn doors so u can spawn camp specialists and kill them before they do anything

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slot manipulation prevents u getting fked over vs elite mixed horde

verbal thistle
#

I got a few examples

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For slots

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Here is me abusing the slots

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Extreme scenario though

azure parcel
# verbal thistle

ok I think I understand how you are forcing them to attack you only 1-2 at a time

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but how do you get out of there

verbal thistle
#

Notice how only 1-2 enemies attack at a time

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I wait for them to back up to get in line

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And I squeeze out

buoyant maple
azure parcel
#

I see

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and w.r.t spawn doors

verbal thistle
#

Mine is extreme though

azure parcel
#

are you always supposed to spawn camp

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or what

buoyant maple
#

baross spawn doors are pretty easy

azure parcel
#

like I know a few spawn doors

buoyant maple
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after the first drop

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going into church (where DH can spawn)

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to the left there's a spawn door where specialists spawn and need to vault over a wall to get u

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and inside church there's another where snipers, tox bombers and flamers frequently spawn

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watch these 2 spawn door directions and ur mostly fine

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I can walk over some spawn doors tonight if u got time

azure parcel
#

but how long do you spawn camp

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or do you spawn camp at all without there being an objective in the area

buoyant maple
#

As long as u stay in general proximity to that area

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The important part is to know the exact direction specialists come from

azure parcel
#

right right

rich spindle
#

I HATE FGS DODGES

buoyant maple
#

It should be worse

verbal thistle
#

Las pistol 😔

rich spindle
#

fug im too noob for mael solo

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cant deal with cspawn and reapers at same time

verbal thistle
#

Kill them and they die

rich spindle
ripe obsidian
# verbal thistle Kill them and they die

Back in maybe 2012, League of Legends did community justice. That is to say, the playerbase was tapped to review reports and vote punish versus not. There was a website called something like "Summoner's Code" that compiled particularly amusing reports. At one point, there was a Mordekaiser who got reported for something or other, and his response to the rager complaining about no CC was, "If they dead, they controlled."

rustic vapor
ripe obsidian
#

I will hopefully have my gaming PC back in working order by Saturday, then I can relearn the game after two weeks away. It's amazing how quickly I lose the muscle memory

rustic vapor
ripe obsidian
#

I mean, I usually play like crap in my first game after a couple days of not playing

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So a few weeks will be interesting

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:D

rich spindle
#

WHAT IS THIS CREVICE AAAAAAAAAAAAA

image.png
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LET ME THROUGH

radiant frigate
ripe obsidian
radiant frigate
#

mauler PoV

verbal thistle
#

F

rich spindle
#

first time I made it to mid

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is there a collection of every psyker solo somewhere

verbal thistle
#

probably not

rich spindle
#

im guessing most people use laspistol infernus to kill bosses

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only one I know

jade karma
#

is the voidblaster staff still good at auric

verbal thistle
#

yes

radiant frigate
#

yes

ripe obsidian
#

All staves are good at Auric.

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Inferno is a little lacking in Auric as compared with high havoc, but still good

verbal thistle
#

Look at this crazy YouTube video

PXL_20260223_220153197.jpg
rich spindle
#

Meow

spiral fiber
#

Is the emperor just a schizophrenic vision of a psyker? Does this indeed mean the DLC with E-psyker is more than just a rumor ? The forum is unclear

azure parcel
radiant frigate
#

i remember this

jovial juniper
marble crater
#

Yeah, real dead

ripe obsidian
radiant frigate
#

GUILTY
NEXT

verbal thistle
#

oh boy

#

that almost killed me

azure parcel
verbal thistle
ripe obsidian
#

League made me too angery

thorn cedar
#

they never published any real findings regarding their uhm

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whatever the fuck it was called system

azure parcel
rich spindle
#

why

ripe obsidian
#

I think the last champion that came out before I quit was maybe... Kayn? Looking at the release date list.

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So 2017

ripe obsidian
# rich spindle

Trying to put you under enough pressure to go Super Saiyan

thorn cedar
#

last champ when i was playing was uh

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flying dragon thing

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at that point i was basically just doing ARAMs once a weekend with a friend who just would not quit the game

jovial juniper
#

Smolder?

#

And it's true

#

League makes you toxic

thorn cedar
#

DotA is a pretty amazing mod

#

DotA 2 is an anachronistic nightmare machine

#

League also just plain sucks

#

Too many old school mechanics perserved because ...... ????

#

I very much appreciate Deadlock

#

I don't know that I'll really ever get super into it the way I used to get into MOBAs like 20 years ago at this point but they at least aren't holding onto tradition for tradition's sake

#

Like who actually fucking enjoys having to recall back to base and then take 30s to run out to your lane again at severe risk of punishment?

#

Who actually enjoys last hitting minions in a silent treaty between you and the other laner for twenty minutes before you actually start doing interesting team fights?

#

It's like if DOOM 2016 came out and it was just DOOM with the graphics upgraded.

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Nobody would fucken care about it.

#

These mechanics only ever existed in DotA because it was built on the bones of Warcraft 3 and there wasn't really a choice.

radiant frigate
#

because lizard entertainment made heroes of the storm which skips gold and items

thorn cedar
#

They can kiss my assbutt.

radiant frigate
#

and no one cared

thorn cedar
#

IceFrog agrees anyway cause they ditched that shit in Deadlock and Deadlock is THE FUTURE

#

IVYGANG

radiant frigate
thorn cedar
#

do it

marble crater
#

Make Psyker Great Again

dire wharf
#

Can you share this build when you get a chance

pine oyster
marble crater
#

Just remove the node, done loregryn

rigid sky
#

There are some hard choices to make

dire wharf
#

Thanks

dire wharf
rigid sky
#

Not taking kinetic deflection or warp speed feels kinda bad for me

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Also not sure if I took warp unbound or not

#

Advantage of taking it is that Gaze 100 peril Assail spam is nutty

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And you won't blow yourself up

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But sometimes I think it's a waste of a point

radiant frigate
rigid sky
#

Also perfectionism is only for high difficulties

#

Below at least Auric you probably want Lingering and skip Cruel Fortune

pine oyster
ripe obsidian
#

Psyker has a high base crit rate and lots of ways to increase crit chance. The game also uses pseudo-random crits instead of true random. So while SG does boost crit chance to extreme levels, you don't need it.

verbal thistle
#

results so far

ripe obsidian
#

I usually sit around 38-43% crit rate with Inferno, and like 70-75% with EK, both using Shriek

ripe obsidian
thorn cedar
#

fooORRR THE GRANDFATHER

azure parcel
#

a couple nights ago I had the KLICK-KLACK experience of a half dozen shotgunners opening up

verbal thistle
#

you dont know real fear until you turn the corner into 20 red shotgunners

azure parcel
#

I respect shotgunners a LOT more now

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since that incident

dire wharf
azure parcel
#

so if 1 shot crits, X number of shots will crit by default

ripe obsidian
#

That's crit chains

dire wharf
#

Do faster firing wrapons benefit from that

ripe obsidian
#

Pseudorandom crits means your crit chance changes behind the scenes

azure parcel
ripe obsidian
#

So you are guaranteed to get a crit after X many attacks without critting

azure parcel
#

or is there something else I'm missing

azure parcel
#

it's an entropy system!?

ripe obsidian
#

Example: if the game says you have 25% crit chance and you have not attacked yet

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Pseudo-random distribution

Crit chance starts at 8.47% and increases by 8.47% until a crit happens.
Standard deviation is ±1.9 attacks.
The maximum number of attacks before a crit occurs is 11.
It is most likely to get a crit on the 3rd attack.
azure parcel
#

ohhh I see

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interesting

unkempt panther
azure parcel
#

I didn't know that

ripe obsidian
azure parcel
#

so it's basically a smoothening effect, of sorts

unkempt panther
#

Pseudo-random just means that they use some deterministic numerical algorithm that is "close enough" to a true random source of numbers. By default, you can get a very long run of no-crits from a standard pseudo-random number generator. You need to throw a little bit of extra code on top of the random number generator (true random or pseudo-random) in order to get the guarantee that you won't get a run of X or more non-crits.

azure parcel
unkempt panther
ripe obsidian
#

Pseudo-random is the industry term for this system

unkempt panther
verbal thistle
azure parcel
#

(just in terms of my mental model)

ripe obsidian
#

Here you go.

thorn cedar
#

It's actually just an intern pressing the crit button.

ripe obsidian
#

Pseudo-random distribution is the term used in the game industry for this kind of system.

thorn cedar
#

Pay no mind to the Swede behind the critial hit curtain.

ripe obsidian
unkempt panther
#

I have a university math degree with a large amount of statistics, and also 20 years of professional coding.

#

I'm telling you, you're using the phrase "pseudo-random number generator" incorrectly.

thorn cedar
#

And I once ate a set of dice.

ripe obsidian
#

I'm using it in the sense that the game developers use it

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and have used it

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since Warcraft I

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perhaps earlier

unkempt panther
#

You're looking for something "modified random number generator that uses an entropy counter to prevent a long run of wins / losses".

#

Even a single wikipedia page would show that you're wrong.

ripe obsidian
#

I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. I didn't coin the term.

thorn cedar
#

Yeah it's not fake randomness because it isn't trying to emulate actual randomness.

unkempt panther
unkempt panther
# ripe obsidian I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. I didn't coin the term.

I'm trying to explain to you that the feature "you won't get a run of more than X non-crits" is not a feature of pseudo-random number generators. That's not what "pseudo-random number generator" means. Rather, you're talking about something like "a random number generator modified with an entropy counter to prevent a long run of hits / misses".

ripe obsidian
#

I'm literally

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just

#

using the game terms

#

I am not trying to define mathematics

#

Fatshark says it's called a pseudo-random distribution, as have Blizzard and Valve and whoever else.

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It might not be 100% accurate in the realm of higher math

#

but it's the accurate term for this system as defined within the bounds of the game

unkempt panther
thorn cedar
#

For my purposes in DarkTide I think 50% crit is more than sufficient for buff uptime purposes on most weapons (barring something really slow or low capacity) and anything between 51% to 99% is kinda wasted.

unkempt panther
#

Thanks for the code. It looks like they're also applying some kind of normal distribution correction / approximation on it too.

thorn cedar
#

Granted that does depend on opportunity cost of whatever choice you gotta make to hit those high crit %s so maybe it isn't wasted since alternative options could be worse.

unkempt panther
#

Problem is that I don't know lua. I might need to learn the basics in order to really understand this code. Could take a few hours.

rich spindle
verbal thistle
#

3 overloads

#

smh

rich spindle
#

assail and warp ghost :(

#

and just a dream

verbal thistle
#

oof

#

whats your lag at?

rich spindle
#

I dont have a mod to tell

verbal thistle
#

in solos use the artifical lag mod

#

to have lag comp

rich spindle
#

oh ive seen that

#

I didnt notice anything weird tbh without it

ripe obsidian
thorn cedar
#

ye feels about right

#

getting every second at best and at worst probably every third hit is also fine really

rich spindle
#

in the code

thorn cedar
#

then you got shit like true aim, headhunter, fotf, etc

rigid sky
#

I find that after a certain point you're looking for crit guarantees

thorn cedar
#

scum is really the only class that can pull off 100% 100% crit

rigid sky
#

Like especially with melee

ripe obsidian
verbal thistle
#

download and use at 50-70ms

#

you will feel it

#

you can actually dodge mutants

ripe obsidian
#

@unkempt panther from some brief googling, the key term appears to be "Markov Chain". Not positive.

unkempt panther
rigid sky
#

Psyker just gets so much juice from crits with DD 25stack

ripe obsidian
# rich spindle is that how it works

Crit chance is not truly random in this game. Whatever your base crit chance is corresponds to a bit list of crit chances in the code. So, like, 80% listed is 75% "actual". And each time you don't crit, your crit chance increases by the same amount until it hits 100% and you crit, then it restarts. That is my understanding.

rigid sky
#

Boosting crit is so worth it, just because of how stuff multiplies together

ripe obsidian
#

Pseudo-random distribution

Crit chance starts at 75.0% and increases by 75.0% until a crit happens.
Standard deviation is ±0.43 attacks.
The maximum number of attacks before a crit occurs is 1.
It is most likely to get a crit on the 1st attack.
rigid sky
#

That isn't what pseudorandom means

ripe obsidian
#

Oh my lord

#

don't make me do this again

unkempt panther
rigid sky
#

Call it quasirandom if you want

thorn cedar
rigid sky
#

Pseudorandom does not mean that

#

Words mean things

thorn cedar
#

its tru tho

ripe obsidian
#

In the video game industry, this sort of crit system is called "Pseudorandom distribution"

#

I did not name it

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I did not choose the name

rigid sky
#

Ok, then Darktide is a duck

#

It isn't a game.

ripe obsidian
#

I am using the terms in the code

thorn cedar
#

you totally did choose it, your avatar is right here in the dictionary

unkempt panther
ripe obsidian
#

It is called psuedorandom distribution in Warcraft and DotA and League of Legends and whatever else. It's just what they call it.

unkempt panther
ripe obsidian
thorn cedar
#

that's cause this shit was invented on the fly by nerds who wanted to make their tabletop games work on magic thinking machines, not compsci graduates

rich spindle
#

that sounds cooler

rigid sky
#

It's what pseudorandomsounds like it means

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But yeah I'm still spitting feathers as the fact that literally can mean figuratively

thorn cedar
#

you mean its what psuedorandom psuedosounds like

rigid sky
#

*at

unkempt panther
thorn cedar
#

nah im talking way back when this thing got cemented

unkempt panther
#

It's really depressing when giving interviews sometimes to people straight of uni, and they can't even do the simple problems that were on their tests, even with hints and guidance from me.

thorn cedar
#

not fatshark but whoever made Warcraft I

unkempt panther
thorn cedar
#

Or dragons quest

rigid sky
#

Yeah well Blizzard.

thorn cedar
#

yknow

#

ollllllld school coders

rigid sky
#

Also assholes.

unkempt panther
#

I swear to god, my first question on my interview can literally be answered by saying "use a hashmap", and some people still fail that.

thorn cedar
#

I can totally picture John Romero calling it psuedorandom and John Carmack hitting him with a rolled up newspaper

rigid sky
#

It's really more... Dependent random variables, with anti-streak compensation built in, I guess

#

And it turns out the displayed stat is a lie

unkempt panther
ripe obsidian
unkempt panther
#

In other words, compensation built-in so that the gambler's fallacy is actually true.

ripe obsidian
#

I just poke switches and access points

rigid sky
#

It could be done like this with the antistreaks and still average out to same crit rate

unkempt panther
#

Also, sorry @ripe obsidian Thanks.

rigid sky
#

Just gotta have a function taking crit rate, weapon crit streaks, and so forth into account

unkempt panther
#

And I'm starting to make sense of the code, I think. The "state" variable appears to be the length of the run without heads, if I had to guess.

rigid sky
#

But they opted not to?

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But yeah, on certain weapons like FGS or a tac axe or shivs, you would get a lot of value out of managing to get from like 80 to 100%

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Reliable fast crusher ttks etc

unkempt panther
#

Seed makes sense. Slightly unusual math lib that they're using that takes the seed in, and spits out the next random value and the next "seed". A little weird to me, but that works. (But why would they save that standard math lib function to a local variable, and then use the local variable to call the function? My brain hurts in terms of style guidelines.)

thorn cedar
#

Idk take it up with the intern

unkempt panther
#

lol

late sapphire
unkempt panther
#

Markov chain is a very very general purpose thing for modeling repeated events. It's definitely not the right term on its own to describe this random number distribution that keeps track of the length of the run of tails and modifies the next heads value accordingly to prevent long runs of tails.

#

It could be modelled as a markov chain maybe, but so too could many other things.

#

Wait, where is math.next_random coming from? It doesn't seem to be lua standard library, although it looks like it, and I can't find it in the github repo. I'm probably being stupid in some way. Whatever, I have to go for now.

rich spindle
#

Shut it nerds

late sapphire
rich spindle
#

I’m gonna wedgie you

thorn cedar
#

lets give them swirlies

late sapphire
#

The geometric distribution models the number of trials between bernoulli successes - bernoulli is coin flips (i.e. crits)

#

Not sure if there's a closed form solution for linearly increasing odds (though there very probably is one) let alone whatever the devs are doing here

unkempt panther
marble crater
thorn cedar
marble crater
unkempt panther
marble crater
#

Fair enough, proceed loregryn

ripe obsidian
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My knowledge of coding is lacking in general. I can just follow the logic sometimes

spice aurora
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im a code god

my favorite line is "hey gemini how do i do this"

thorn cedar
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hey grok make me a picture of me being really good at coding video games and also my biceps are huge

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wtf why does it have a swastika armband

zinc phoenix
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I’m a software dev on the infra side of the house KEKW_ogryn

ripe obsidian
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Sometimes I have to touch the codebase for work and I scream

marble crater
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Smh

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Always the people who click on funny links and then turn into spam bots

ripe obsidian
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?

verbal thistle
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someone got their account stolen and they tried to scam

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I have them in my dms

ripe obsidian
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Unfortunate

verbal thistle
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I asked them to do my taxes

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they ignored me

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😔

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I love messing with scams

unkempt panther
verbal thistle
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I've got some funny steam ones

unkempt panther
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Regardless of the apparent gender of the caller.

ripe obsidian
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No one sends me scam messages. :<

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I am unpopular

marble crater
unkempt panther
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It gets worse, we also use the long scale instead of the short scale for million+ staregryn

unkempt panther
# marble crater It gets worse, we also use the long scale instead of the short scale for million...

Fascinating

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_and_short_scales

I didn’t know. Thanks.

Long and short scales

The long and short scales are two powers of ten number naming systems that are consistent with each other for smaller numbers, but are contradictory for larger numbers. Other numbering systems, particularly in East Asia and South Asia, have large number naming that differs from both the long and the short scales. Such numbering systems include t...

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there's an incredible amount of redundancy there