psyker-class

[crisp ether]

We didn't need the macro for surge m1 at all

And yet...

Dorfin has entered the chat:

[dull scroll]

that dude also macro'd the deimo poke, I still don't know what the actual rotation for that to this day

[crisp ether]

He's not the only one either

But

To his credit

He's at least the only one that doesn't let it make him do really, really stupid plays

As far as I've experienced the few times I've played with him

Cuz I've seen a few psykers macro the poke

And a lot of them

Are actually complete dogwater

[dull scroll]

true, one such cases https://youtube.com/shorts/bQHkgCSshuI

[crisp ether]

Ough

To their credit, they did at least decide to save the ogryn instead of just trying to solo everything themselves

[dull scroll]

oh wait nvm it's just the L1 poke, prob canceled with blocks

my sleep depraved brain kept thinking they were spamming the godlike H2 for some reason

[crisp ether]

Nah it's just the l1 I'm pretty sure

Which

Still really powerful in its own right

[robust jacinth]

demonhosts triggered by smykers should instantly kill them. Change my mind.

[spice aurora]

when I grow up I wanna be a smyker

[robust jacinth]

they should literally immediately tf2 explode bind and die

[rich spindle]

hating on smite is so 2025

in 2026 we are running 4x perma smite

crab walk to Valkyrie

[thorn cedar]

4x double wall ep smykers

[rich spindle]

8 walls...

you could make some kind of defensive perimeter that protects you from all sides at once

[ripe obsidian]

Gettin' kinda DRG in here

With this talk of building things

[thorn cedar]

like a .... like a stadium

[rich spindle]

it might be too op

to have walls that can protect all sides at once

[ripe obsidian]

This sort of wretched and degenerate behavior is what leads baby Psykers to pick up Empyric Shock.

[rich spindle]

DONT START IT

DELETE NOW

[ripe obsidian]

:(

[thorn cedar]

this could only ever be op if a singe psyker could do it so its fine

[rich spindle]

TOO LATE

HE SAW

[dull scroll]

I wonder who showed me and got me into that cancel 🤔

could be someone right here in this chat

[ripe obsidian]

(I honestly don't even hate Empyric Shock that much. I mostly do it to harass Vect.)

[dull scroll]

🤔

WHO COULD IT BE

[ripe obsidian]

I don't think it was me.

Was it?

I can't recall.

[rich spindle]

vect trolling insider tip: invite him to party and set server to east without telling him

[dull scroll]

OH I REMEMBER, IT WAS

https://tenor.com/view/dungeong-gif-15689004941277764080

[rich spindle]

also take shriek on a melee build just to steal a little bit of soulblaze damage

[ripe obsidian]

If you shriek first, you steal it all

:)

[patent steeple]

I at one point considered empyric shock (its the staff lmb debuff-application thing and not the other staff one above it, right?) on an EK build to reach rmb BPs...

I now see how stupid that plan was, because I can just rmb at the same target again instead of applying empyric shock to it...

[crisp ether]

Run a force sword with blazing spirit

Embrace Blaze Knight

[ripe obsidian]

It's the debuff on enemies hit by LMB, yes.

Problem is, stacking ES on an enemy is almost always less effective than just RMBing them to death

Exceptions being things like bosses or crushers, but on a crusher the time spent using LMB could be spent stacking Uncanny and killing it faster anyway

And if enemies already have 15+ stacks, using LMB is reasonable then. If every enemy around you has 15+ stacks.

[verbal thistle]

or invite people mid solo

[patent steeple]

and on bosses, well, there are melee weapons with much better unyielding damage than the staves...

[verbal thistle]

this was a decent run too

[rich spindle]

its hard as hell to get to that point in the map lol

[ripe obsidian]

There is rarely a reason to use Empyric Shock on Inferno unless you're macroing LMB.

[dull scroll]

goddamn @static vessel hit while I missed

I will do better next time

[patent steeple]

I myself have never used any macros, because I don't care enough to set one up

[ripe obsidian]

If I see an Inferno psyker who isn't Vect using ES, I have Concerns. But even then, Vect just does well because skill. ES doesn't make a meaningful difference imo

[rich spindle]

moar damage when stunlocking ragers

[ripe obsidian]

I use Skitarius to save my wrist when using LMB EK

[rich spindle]

galaxy brain: theres no reason to use any blessings or perks when using inferno

[ripe obsidian]

Reasonable

[patent steeple]

if only there was one staff that could have the rmb also count as the lmb...

[ripe obsidian]

If only we had more than 4 staves, 3 of which share the same LMB

[rich spindle]

lmb overhauls would be amazing

[verbal thistle]

learning how to fight bosses in the 1st church area is actually fun

[patent steeple]

or better yet, replace the whole empyric shock node with some other, better effect, and make empyric shock into a staff type-specific blessing.

it would be like Shattering Impact (or whatever the brittleness blessing is on explosion ranged weapons like VB and Rumbler), but only for warp attacks

[ripe obsidian]

Replace Channeled Force first. That node makes me sad.

[static vessel]

How do you even play solo like lord

[verbal thistle]

slowly

I know how the game works

[rich spindle]

light light heavy combo is for more toughness?

[verbal thistle]

yeah

[rich spindle]

i can never make it out of the area after that

I start circuiting the whole thing but theres too many bulwarks and they mess up my hits

[sinful olive]

-Void keeps the bolt
-Flame unchanged
-Ele staff gets little lighting balls that are placed and shock enemies that pass through, making them eligible as extra targets the charged m2 can jump to, with some kind of cap. Maybe they linger for a few seconds.
-Trauma gets a short range shotgun type blast with low damage and heavy stagger.

Idk I thought of these in 30 seconds

[verbal thistle]

I can stream my attempt if you wanna watch my kiting

[spice aurora]

Is there immunity to some attacks when climbing/vaulting shit? I killed like 3 bosses in there in one attempt cause I vault those fire pedestals and I feel like I cant get hit by a lot of attacks

[verbal thistle]

it breaks some pathing

I noticed

unsure exactly what it does

[spice aurora]

I def feel safe kinda spamming it in that room xD

[frail osprey]

I wonder if it counts as a dodge?

[burnt gazelle]

rework ele staff as the shock rifle

[dim hull]

Scriers vs shriek for an EK staff? Im bad at psyker, whats the upshot? Scriers seems more braindead, is shriek mostly for havoc armor clear or

[burnt gazelle]

shriek clears trash adds and suppresses stuff and is basically free clutches on auric if you can kite round a loop

vs like 8 crushers you'd be better off with scriers melee than shriek

[zealous wing]

preference, tbh

scriers for sure though if you go surge surge, but if its RMB, preference purely

[ripe obsidian]

Masochism.

[verbal thistle]

the sound of death

[teal fog]

https://tenor.com/view/musket-firing-musket-firing-squad-war-gif-27646902

[dim hull]

whats the 2nd surge mean

Im running this atm

[marble crater]

Surge is the old name for Elektro staff

[dim hull]

o I see

[marble crater]

Also the better name, together with Trauma for Voidblast and Purgatus for Inferno

[teal fog]

you receive nothing

[zealous wing]

purgatus, i cant get behind, i still call it inferno, but trauma, absolutely

like it SOUNDS cool

i just, cant lol

[marble crater]

You weren't there

[zealous wing]

doesnt matter

i still call trauma trauma because it makes SENSE

i call electrokinetic EK, tho, easier for me to personally say than surge

but alas i know im the weirdo here

for many reasons

[zinc phoenix]

Based menace enjoyer

Unexpected vision of my beloved game

[teal fog]

that's @broken carbon

[zinc phoenix]

Menace is the 🐐

[azure parcel]

[next pine]

one must imagine him happy

[uneven trout]

is there any h40 assail builds out there

[teal ivy]

Bubble knight might work, I believe there’s one in the pins.

[teal ivy]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/11Av6T7DJRkm78M3csiZec6p7-cHXOWiKyjpOJ-FWV3g/edit?usp=drivesdk

Check this out. Tons of builds in here!

[uneven trout]

ah i think i glazed right over that one when i was looking, thanks

whats the playstyle with assail and melee psyker? never tried it before

[teal ivy]

Sooooooo

For me, if I’m focused into melee as psyker, I will run assail as my blitz, scriers gaze as my ability, and keystone is disrupt destiny.

Pick the force great sword. Just do it.

I usually take voidblast staff as welll.

Sword will handle mixed hordes with ease. Build up your charge for the sword, tap special then unleash the large psychic wave attack. Will kill just about anything under crushers and bulwarks up close

I use assail to snipe any specials, or if a huge patrol of ragers or something shows up, I’ll dump like 7-8 assail shards to soften them up

Usually when I’m in melee, I’ll weave 2-3 assail shards in between hordes/enemies when I have space

Use your staff to disrupt large groups of carapace enemies like scab ragers or crusher/bulwark patrols

And finally, for scriers gaze, it’s pretty simple. Pop it, stay in melee and murder everything.

I usually will spam my abilities until I overload. Then pop scriers gaze, and vent all peril until you hit 0. Scriers gaze will make your peril go up, but if you stay in melee it takes awhile.

Then when you hit max peril, you have 10 seconds to use any psychic abilities before you overload and blow yourself up

[teal ivy]

Also, force great sword will handle crushers as well. Use heavy attack chain with scriers gaze popped and you can reliably take a crusher out in about 3-4 headshots, depending on how high your peril/damage as it scales with scriers gaze as peril increases

[zealous wing]

assail is great for proccing malefic momentum

which means free +25% damage

assail is also great stagger, dealing with a rager cluster, staggering non-ogryn enemies just out of melee range

[uneven trout]

What’s the tips for peril management here? I don’t want to pop

[uneven trout]

Like when is it safe to use the abilities

[zealous wing]

if you go bubble, just try not to cast on 100 :p

[uneven trout]

Oh ok

[zealous wing]

you can hover around 60 if you want, or 80 for a lot of good strength still

[uneven trout]

What about the sword ability? Doesn’t that pop me?

[zealous wing]

it will if youre at 100

[teal ivy]

As long as you use it under 100 you’re fine

[uneven trout]

Okay

I know the normal blaze force one uses peril for block pushing

[zealous wing]

same for FGS

[uneven trout]

Does the greatsword do that as well?

Ah

I’ve popped myself so may times

[teal ivy]

Actually, scriers gaze is good for that.

[zealous wing]

in new psyker section, my berpsyker build is great

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a0bcdc7a-d0f6-4438-825d-fa4fe02e1909/berpsyker
this one

[uneven trout]

Is there a guide on how to set up better buffer management so I can more easily see my scriers cooldown?

[teal ivy]

After you hit max peril with scriers, you get 10 seconds of free psychic ability usage

[zealous wing]

idk if theres a guide for it but i could assist

[uneven trout]

I think mister e has one

[zealous wing]

if you have warp unbound

idk how good his guides are, i just know his build guides are bad

[teal ivy]

Yes, thanks for saying that. It truly is a great talent!

[uneven trout]

What’s the benefit of using lazgun over heavy lazpistol or is it just preference?

[zealous wing]

empathic evasion crit farming

laspistol is more gambly

reconlas is more reliable

[uneven trout]

Ah okay

I’ll level it to 20 then

Isn’t there a mod that auto levels?

Just manually leveled the fgs

[teal ivy]

Just do the weapon sacrifice hack

[zealous wing]

maybe

[uneven trout]

The what

[zealous wing]

"hack"

lol

[teal ivy]

lol. Not a hack. But it works

[uneven trout]

Ah buying the same weapon and consecrating then sac?

Yeah that’s what I did

[zealous wing]

yes

[teal ivy]

This build looks good. I run a similar build but I’m curious to see if there are some differences from mine.

Might try it out tonight if it is

[uneven trout]

This build looks really fun

[zealous wing]

it is

[uneven trout]

Looks really difficult for me atm since I’m still relatively new with psyker at 44

But hey willing to learn

[zealous wing]

i've helped 4 new psykers learn psyker with it so far

[uneven trout]

Been looking for something to scratch the old thunder hammer zealot itch

Haven’t quite found it yet

[zealous wing]

• combat stim for funsies

[uneven trout]

Heh

I know what I’m gonna learn!

[teal ivy]

Do you feel recon is best for this build? Or can you switch to staff?

[zealous wing]

you.. could throw a staff in, but you'd severely lack movement

best sub in would be a surge surge

but even then its meh

youd want empyric shock for that

[teal ivy]

Yeaaaaaah….recon fires so fast it’s farming crits so easy

[zealous wing]

surge surge is also good for EE farming, but merging the two builds would take different talent spread (although very slightly)

i've also been a bit addicted to knife/rending trauma / assail / scriers / empowered psionics recently, quite fun

or, with DD instead of EP if i have the zoomies

EP one:

[ripe obsidian]

@verbal thistle

[teal ivy]

I run knife on a few builds, mainly zealot. I need that attack speed to enjoy it.

[verbal thistle]

lmao

love this

only had it happen like 2 times

but its funny

[ripe obsidian]

It was my first instance

Was just doing a low-level havoc to prevent derank, as I won't have my gaming PC for another week or so

[zealous wing]

"I trained for moments like this. did you?"

[hollow summit]

What happened there

Triple special?

Currently have no audio

[teal ivy]

@zealous wing when you say run surge surge, which staff do ya mean?

Just elec staff with surge in it?

Assuming drop warp flurry

[hollow summit]

Are you trying to do crit m1

If so you do that yes

[zealous wing]

yeah

main thing i guess is, instead of true aim or warp speed, you'd want to grab these two, channeled force and empyric shock, you'd also have to pull a point from somewhere else

mainly to get to empyric shock

could drop quick shards

[verbal thistle]

parkour

[teal ivy]

I grabbed warp speed for sure. Extra 20% speed is a wonderful thing for killing or for GTFO

[teal ivy]

Also, awesome build for assail scriers. It’s better than what I was using for sure. It feels like you can do anything with this build really.

[ripe obsidian]

Channeled Force is gross. >:(

I also don't use Empyric Shock on LMB EK. Is not bad, I just want other things more

[zealous wing]

i like being maximum utility

[hollow summit]

I like killing everyone

[teal ivy]

Yeah that’s like me as well. I like having a tool for every situation. I feel that’s why psyker has slowly become my fav operative as I’ve gotten better at playing

[hollow summit]

I usually play the most on classes I struggle with so it seems psyker is probably one of my most played

[dull scroll]

guess build

😏

[hollow summit]

EK?

[dull scroll]

nuh uh

[zealous wing]

FGS warp slash bolt pistol bleed shriek spam

[dull scroll]

https://tenor.com/view/really-gif-2881048977106871054

[hollow summit]

Oh, that explains it

[hoary mauve]

I tried your fidget build and learned I'm shit at it because I'm def not a good player lol. V fun in Mortis though.

I love the zoomies from DD though. It's why I really really want meleeker with FGS to click for me.

[hoary mauve]

My psyker is my most played for this reason too. It's so fun with so many different build possibilities, I just keep playing to get better at it.

[hollow summit]

i play veteran the most lel

[hoary mauve]

That's my second most played because for a while, newbie me thought "oh I can just shoot, that's what you're supposed to do in a FPS right?"

(Dark Tide being my first FPS.)

Tho now I'm trying to get better at melee with melee psyker, not Zealot, because Zealot is too forgiving.

[zealous wing]

lol fair enough

its a build i can only really run when im high energy

[hollow summit]

back in the day fps usually meant 90% shooting and 10% running around with a knife for faster move speed

these days, its just whatever that's in first person and has a gun

and the gun is optional

[marble crater]

FPP, first person pew

[hoary mauve]

Haha ya

[hoary mauve]

When I'm high energy, I'm typically jittery on caffeine and play like shit 😆😆.

Big sorry to all the Damnation strike teams scraping me off the floor because I got distracted by spam throwing shiny blue shards!

[hollow summit]

slime rancher is a fps

[hoary mauve]

Lol yea

[hoary mauve]

Counterstrike on school LAN, my class once managed to convince a teacher to join in 😆 (many many years ago)

[jovial juniper]

Slime Rancher mentioned in the big 26

[teal ivy]

I main zealot and you’re right. The only thing that usually will kill you as a zealot is your own poor choices.

Getting lost in the action is usually what lands me caught by a trapper, thrown off an edge by a barrel, etc

[thorn cedar]

Me dick deep in an armored horde being an unkillable badass chaining endless FotFs
The humble trapper:

[rare ridge]

does "ranged damage" include staffs?

[rich spindle]

Yes

[summer prairie]

Some of them and sometimes only partly

It doesn't include SB, trauma rmb

So mostly helps voidstrike and ek

[rich spindle]

Wut

Is trauma rmb just not counted at all

[summer prairie]

It's an explosion like a grenade

Doesn't count as ranged

[rich spindle]

Hmmm

I swear ive seen 1m+ ranged on trauma

No way that was all lmb…

[summer prairie]

Just because the scoreboard lists it as ranged doesn't mean it is

It's just convenient to put it there

[rich spindle]

Ah, that’s what I was talking about

Not the actual type

[summer prairie]

He probably wants to know if +ranged damage helps staff

[rich spindle]

Ye

[thorn cedar]

this is why bistol + trauma staff is such a strong weapon combo

man actually kinda wish lethal prox existed on a melee weapon ........ somehow

[rare ridge]

so inferno staff, is that ranged then?

[rare ridge]

yes, there is a talent option for "+10 ranged damage" and that made me wonder if that refers to just guns or staffs etc

i assume that adds, because the staff can have the perk "+10 range damage (elite)"

would be weird to a perk for ranged dmg if the staff doesnt count as that

[marble crater]

The direct hit is, but vast majority of inferno damage is from soulblaze, so it doesn't matter

[frail osprey]

It covers the both for staff attacks.

[summer prairie]

No

[rare ridge]

too bad it doesnt seem to be very clear

[verbal thistle]

Welcome to fatshark

[worthy lily]

is flame psyker still insane or did it get nerfed

[verbal thistle]

no change

[worthy lily]

ok

[spice aurora]

which is the best staff for melee staff is it still EK cause crit

bonk meta inbound

[full river]

Does it's damage counts as soulblaze

?

[marble crater]

Which damage specifically? Inferno counts as ranged, but the hits that apply soulblaze count as soulblaze

[worthy lily]

what is the kinda best kit for havoc rn

[marble crater]

So, inferno is both, but ranged is so small it's not worth investing into

[long saddle]

how good are you

[worthy lily]

meh

[long saddle]

bubble + inferno

[marble crater]

[worthy lily]

ok

[long saddle]

the next step up is shriek + inferno/voidblast

and then you have your SG builds

[worthy lily]

sg?

[long saddle]

did one earlier today where we had SG FGS and I think agri combat shotgun

scrier's gaze

[worthy lily]

ah

[long saddle]

most will frown at non-standard psykers in havoc tho

but they just need to be outdamaged and outsurvived

[worthy lily]

ok

[long saddle]

but just doing bubble inferno is good practice, since you won't always be in bubble

and you learn good positioning without being too punished at the slightest mistake

[crisp ether]

those people are lame

[long saddle]

yeah the vet was like

why gun psyker

and then the gun psyker was still carrying

[crisp ether]

yep

if anything

I actually prefer seeing a nonmeta psyker if it looks like they know what they're doing with the build

Because those are the psykers that can actually take care of themselves

[long saddle]

I told you about bubble RMB EK psyker tho

that one wasn't good

I also had a surge surge one

that died in 2 seconds

[crisp ether]

lmao

it's always the bubble purg psykers that tends to happen to for me

[long saddle]

tbf it was chasm station start

which is bridge of death at times

I haven't done any outside of bubble purg idt, but I also like the directing with bubble

[crisp ether]

also tbf

[long saddle]

and I'm fine without my own bubble

[crisp ether]

this is also meta tbh

surge EK is fucking stupid

And very brain-off

[long saddle]

yeah I've ran the build a lot in maelstroms

outdamaging infernos

[long saddle]

you're too popular for your own good

[verbal thistle]

I had no idea I could accept invites mid solo\

[frail osprey]

Yall need to help guide the new ones to not choke under pressure.

[marble crater]

Just play well enough to not be under pressure in the first place, smh

[timber moon]

Nonmeta psykers are either the worst players you can play with or are actually cracked and just prefer handling shit differently

[marble crater]

https://imgflip.com/i/akr7dm

[timber moon]

Actually fucking long trip, found out they just sent me back to the ship because some Navigator needed a buddy to cheer him up (he was having a bad day). Tried playing some tunes but a warp demon fucked up my Vox radio and now I'm just waiting quietly on the ride back.

And NOW they just sent me to a dead mission where everyone failed and I was just there to oversee what went wrong for the adeptus administration. Can I please just fight some heretics for one second 😭

(Context: Game took too long to load, got sent back to the character select, then tried again and got sent to an instant mission failure for some god-forsaken reason. I love Darktide)

[tidal patrol]

Wanted to ask, what do you guys think about "Assail"?

Haven't seen people do builds with it much, so I was wondering if it was just non-viable at end game.

Not asking if it's meta or not, I know it's not, but how significant is it if people's own experience.

[deft stump]

It's completely fine, just completely busted on low diffs.

[tidal patrol]

I've noticed, but haven't seen much end game builds with it, so I was wondering how hard of a fall off it has as the game difficulty creeps up.

[deft stump]

Like, as a tool, you use it to clear chaff and gunners to power MM.

[tidal patrol]

MM?

[deft stump]

Malefic Momentum or summthing.

The use warp to kill shit to buff normal damage, and reverse.

[tidal patrol]

Got it.

[deft stump]

It's more a meleeker/gunker thing for endgame.

KF+BB is better for stave builds, smite is and assail just good for feeding peril and that.

Which you know, outside of SG on meleeker/Gunker, is literally nothing for most parts.

[spice aurora]

@verbal thistle I member when I asked if you can turn it off and you said you never had the issue
Feel my pain!

[verbal thistle]

Look at this

[spice aurora]

I rarely come out of those but when I do I’m so happy

That’s the temp darksouls game mode

xD

[verbal thistle]

really shows how you can abuse the slot system

[spice aurora]

ye

[zealous wing]

i use it all the time

bubbleknight build uses it, and that build has been used for a couple of my seasonal h40 clears

assail is absolutely endgame viable, as is brain rupture.

the only bad blitz is smite

[white sky]

Seconded

[spice aurora]

toilet seat head goes hard ngl

[fading hedge]

Pysker

[spice aurora]

xD

[azure parcel]

?????

how

[marble crater]

EP and gaze are a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural

[azure parcel]

I need to see this build

[zealous wing]

i call it my fidget build. can grab it after this mission

[zealous wing]

with alternate keystone, depending on more assail or more speed.

aura can also be swapped for whatever, im just bouncing between crit and elite damage to figure out which i want more

[blazing basin]

could someone please help me get the penance where you have to knock 7 people off a cliff and kill them

its the last psyker penance I need (besides the play 100 missions one)

[zealous wing]

can do

[blazing basin]

im runnin a mission rn with randmos but if dont get it ill at you!

[zealous wing]

kk

[blazing basin]

https://discordapp.com/channels/727074276724965407/1032365555245662238
:]

[spice aurora]

@darktidewizards why did i not get grabbed

i think subconsciously i dodged last sec (was body blocked) nvm

[ripe obsidian]

Are you standing on a crate?

Could be your hitbox was above the grab

[zealous wing]

parkour!

[modern bluff]

I raise you

[dull scroll]

specials seem to have perfect tracking midair

same with snipers 😒

[crisp ether]

hi vect lol

[dull scroll]

https://tenor.com/view/h2di-bear-wave-happy-wave-gif-2687863440681867759

[crisp ether]

@dull scroll chat suddenly decided to disconnect on me

gotta restart

also i'm sorry my havoc seed is so cursed

[dull scroll]

oh lol, you in my game

[crisp ether]

ya

i was toxy

[gaunt pilot]

How do you dodge crusher overheads as psyker? Even with knife crouch slide backwards is not long enough

[radiant frigate]

side dodge

[gaunt pilot]

Overhead animation will turn to sideways on wide arc during the attack

Side doenst do anything.

[radiant frigate]

timing issue

[marble crater]

Take Deimos, knock the crusher on its ass with the h2 stab or push attack

[radiant frigate]

that also works

any force sword push attack will do the trick

[silent frigate]

dodge into it

oh wait its not elden ring mb

[radiant frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/man-im-dead-malenia-elden-ring-dead-death-gif-17439259328617278383

[zealous wing]

alternatively...

[radiant frigate]

thank you hexis this is epic

[zealous wing]

i like bullying crushers

I JUST FOUND A USE FOR STAFF BONK

[radiant frigate]

how many psykers do you have

[zealous wing]

3 currently

[radiant frigate]

does a full charge bonk bonk a crusher

[zealous wing]

snkjsvbnjsdhkjbvsv

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updated

[gaunt pilot]

Does that work with the knife?

[zealous wing]

lol no but you probably have a staff

[gaunt pilot]

Knife/laspistol

[zealous wing]

hmm

laspistol push then

same thing as force swords

[gaunt pilot]

Ok, gotta test it out

[zealous wing]

god i need to add everything to this clip

[gaunt pilot]

Thanks

[radiant frigate]

weird choice but ok, in that case consult the previous demonstration

[radiant frigate]

dis one

[zealous wing]

ill add laspistol to it, any others im missing?

[radiant frigate]

de imos h2

maybe parry specials

[zealous wing]

bad news

laspee too weak

does not work

shows how little i use it

[radiant frigate]

domed

[gaunt pilot]

Are surge staff crit builds viable anymore or did they get nerfed at some point?

[radiant frigate]

pewpew tech/macro was removed if that is what you mean

but all surge staff builds are crit builds

[gaunt pilot]

Yeah the ones where you just spam M1

[modern bluff]

Yeah it's pretty sick

[cosmic sigil]

Dafuq

[radiant frigate]

lore accurate 40k

old enough to pull a trigger means old enough to kill heretics

(jokes aside don't do that)

[zinc phoenix]

What’s wrong with it?

6 is old enough to have fun with this sort of game

[cosmic sigil]

I am pretty sure you're not supposed to play darktide at 6

[zinc phoenix]

I wouldn’t put a young kid in front of an iPad but having them play a shooter with a parent? That seems pretty wholesome

It’s supervised time limited play with their parent who has judged it fine content wise

[cosmic sigil]

A shooter like Splatoon yeah ok

But Darktide... At 6???

Bro

[zinc phoenix]

There are lots of parents who leave their kid unsupervised with an iPad at under 2

It’s horrible

[cosmic sigil]

That's stupid yeah

[zinc phoenix]

You might think the content is too much for a kid but if they’re not having nightmares and are having fun 🤷‍♀️

I’m planning to play Civ with my little girl when she gets older but I’d love to get her into something like this that we can do together when she moves out for college

[cosmic sigil]

6 is not 16

[zinc phoenix]

Yeah but as I keep saying that’s a parental content call

My brother was playing goldeneye when he was about that age

Lots of shooting people in the face and stabbing and whatnot

Heck everyone was playing mortal kombat and that was massively more violent than Darktide

Ripping out spines and spleens

[lament quail]

it was quite some since i played as psyker and i looked at the skill tree and i have no idea what i am looking at what playstyle every side represents can someone explain it to me?

[radiant frigate]

left: wizard wizard
middle: utility/support wizard
right: sword/gun wizard

[plucky flax]

I played gta vice city at like 6 or 7

[cosmic sigil]

And look at you now

[plucky flax]

I know

Super washed

[lament quail]

I like smite and melee which path should i go to?

[cosmic sigil]

On the other hand it's a good way to teach kids that trappers are pedos and avoid them.

[cosmic sigil]

If you smite you're not meleeing tho

[lament quail]

Sometimes its better to stop for a good smite

[cosmic sigil]

Not sure everyone will agree here but if you wanna do dmg with smite, you do smite EP.

[lament quail]

Unless smite is so good now that it melts heretics last time i played psyker was before arbites release

[cosmic sigil]

Add shriek on top and burn everything with soulblaze

[zinc phoenix]

Turn right and walk forward without stopping on the bridge in any map

[lament quail]

I dont know if the skill tree got a rework

[cosmic sigil]

It got a rework to buff gunker and improve pathing

But smite + ep does a lot of dmg. The problem is that it crawls everything and players use it on hordes every time and not a crusher/bullwark wave.

[lament quail]

What even is EP

[cosmic sigil]

Empowered psionics

It buffs your blitzes

[silent frigate]

The build is damn strong I am impressed

[cosmic sigil]

Wound curios ugh

[lament quail]

Huh why

[cosmic sigil]

Smite has a bad rep

[lament quail]

For what reason exacly?

[zealous wing]

theres a list

[cosmic sigil]

Because a lot of smite users do not use it properly, do not engage with other mechanics like melee or range, crawl the game and mobs smited are in a state invalidating some talents from other classes, especially zealots, who need them to be engaged in melee

[zealous wing]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1272804331497979935/1450700850132418651/Kill_All_Smykers.gif

we dont have fun with this ^

[cosmic sigil]

If you're using smite like an arby shockmine, I have no problem with it honestly. But that's not what 99% of the user base is doing.

[silent frigate]

I mean infinite cc is really strong and damage is insane if you continuously do it so

[lament quail]

I do more then only smite i had a 2 hand sword and a revolver

[lament quail]

Smite allowed a perfect shot on the shield here i dont get what wrong with that

Also double barrel shotgun based

[radiant frigate]

dbarrel with 3 shots
the forbidden dlc class tech

triple barrel..

2 barrels on the shotgun and the third sending the smyker into the abyss

[lament quail]

Which class can do that?

[radiant frigate]

hive scum and arbites

[prisma nova]

arbi and scum? all who have the ammo talent for clip size.

[radiant frigate]

they also turn the revolver from 5 shots to 6

even though we can see the 5 boolets in the cylinder

[prisma nova]

and regarding the smiker "hate" - I don't really get it - just leave if you don't want it but it is in the game so kinda deal with it?

[lament quail]

I dont get why he knocked the psyker of the map in that clip

[radiant frigate]

to unpause the game

[radiant frigate]

smite has a use case but the use case is not all day every day

[prisma nova]

being a petty one. no real reason

[cosmic sigil]

Vet too

[radiant frigate]

oh shit really?

since when

[lament quail]

one stunned shield also giving you a juicy shot opertunnity

[prisma nova]

do you kick every one who uses talents/things not optimally? it's really petty

[zealous wing]

and vet

[radiant frigate]

yes i see now

+25% mag size

[lament quail]

I use it on vet i need that skill

[radiant frigate]

no, i just leave

[prisma nova]

fair, I understand that.

[cosmic sigil]

Hmmm since the rework at least. This is how you can get a 7shot revolver.

[lament quail]

Thats weird

[azure parcel]

Beautiful

[radiant frigate]

yeah i see the talent
it's just in a place i would never path to

[azure parcel]

[cosmic sigil]

We want to play the game.

[radiant frigate]

game supposed to be fun
having someone holding down smite is not fun

so no not weird

[cosmic sigil]

For db yeah. For revolver, agri cs and bolter, it's damn valid.

[lament quail]

I dont see how it applies your entire skill tree and weaponry if it stuns a couple shields its good for you

How many enemies at the same time can smite stun?

[radiant frigate]

the entire screen minus bosses

[lament quail]

That sounds really good did it got buffed?

[radiant frigate]

no it's always been like this

[lament quail]

Even before arbites?

[radiant frigate]

it just does low damage to "offset" this (doesn't really matter since you can run it with shriek and/or EP and enter room -> hold down smite -> press f at 83%+ -> continue holding down -> room cleared)

Yes.

[lament quail]

True palpatine build

83% is oddly specific

[radiant frigate]

well yes

it's for max soulblaze stacks from shriek

[lament quail]

I have to look up that build

Also since you have such strong opinions on builds do you also despise knife zealots?

[radiant frigate]

are we talking knife charge

knife book

or knife stealth

[lament quail]

Knife stealth

I never heard of knife charge

Combo

[radiant frigate]

knife stealth can be really annoying to be around

[lament quail]

If someone speedruns then yes

[radiant frigate]

if it's one of the "run past everything and do weird skips" type of knife zealots then yes i am not a fan

[lament quail]

Im a stealth knife zealot but not the speedruning and skipping kind

[radiant frigate]

good and cool

[lament quail]

One issue is i cant really decide what ranged weapon to use with it

I have a revolver now and it does its job pretty well

[radiant frigate]

depends, what do you struggle with

[lament quail]

Havoc random teammates

[radiant frigate]

revolver and blades of faith kind of occupy the same niche

i'd probably recommend reconlas or bolter

[lament quail]

I mostly use it to blast a mauler upclose or a quick flick on a sniper mid horde clear

Are smite psykers the worst type of players for youM

?

[radiant frigate]

Yes

[lament quail]

Whats the second and third worst?

[radiant frigate]

probably arbites

[lament quail]

Just arbites in general?

[radiant frigate]

[lament quail]

Oh i think i know why

The shock mine?

[radiant frigate]

no it's the dog actually

[lament quail]

The dog is fine

I prefer to play without it tho

[radiant frigate]

shock mine is fine

[lament quail]

Whats the third worst?

[radiant frigate]

everything else

i just dislike smyker and arbites in particular

[lament quail]

I never disliked players based on their class BUT on how they play

[radiant frigate]

speedrun skipper stealth knife i have seen once in my thousand hours so not common enough to mention

[radiant frigate]

i never said i did either

i may dislike a playstyle but that's where it ends

[lament quail]

I dont know now if i should make my own build like i always do and prefer or just find one online cause this tree is confusing

[radiant frigate]

i'm sure the build bonanza in the pins is up to date

[lament quail]

Whats that build?

[radiant frigate]

all of them

[lament quail]

Damn i will check that out

[zinc phoenix]

It’s better to make the smyker suffer

By barreling them

Or burstering them. Then they leave and the game can continue

If people want to use smite without being an ass about it, fine. I leave those guys be. If they’re the “hodl right click forever” type I kill them

I would rather have a bot

[rich spindle]

https://tenor.com/view/smyker-psyker-warhammer-40k-darktide-gif-18327129578094586864

[sharp island]

Why would one do this

[radiant frigate]

[rich spindle]

https://tenor.com/view/the-dark-knight-its-about-sending-a-message-joker-heath-ledger-the-joker-gif-18201880

[sharp island]

Smit smigyr that hated

?

[cosmic sigil]

Yes

[radiant frigate]

Yes

pile on

[marble crater]

Yes

[white sky]

yes

[silent frigate]

there are no laws against smykers batman

[crisp ether]

Smite being able to be infinitely casted straight up shouldn't be in the game

Honestly it's mostly on fatshark for allowing that to be a thing tbh

[white sky]

I like that hate is in quotes like the only thing saving smykers isn't the lack of friendly fire damage

[jovial juniper]

Me casting smite infinitely because I'm bored

(I'm bored because I'm casting smite infinitely)

[thorn cedar]

ill stop casting smite once im done sipping my coffee

[primal oriole]

Heyo guys, whick build is most powerfull on Psyker now? Maybe video or some list

[verbal thistle]

depends on difficulty/skill/teammates

most builds are extremely strong

melee, ranged, staff, blitz heavy

[dull scroll]

what's your lvl, what diff you planning to play at

[ripe obsidian]

"Most powerful" is a trap of a question

[marble crater]

It's smite, no other build can stun the entire map at the same time

[rich spindle]

this

• bubble

[primal oriole]

Ye, it‘s not right word to this, sorry

[primal oriole]

Psyker, 30 lvl, playing more from electro or fragments

[shut kite]

Play the hardest psyker build and emerge a diamond

You cannot sharpen a blade without friction

[dull scroll]

diff as in difficulty, if you are playing in auric everything is OP, assail/melee/gun is the most OP at this diff

[shut kite]

The path of least resistance leads you only in circles

To fear the fall is to never climb

[dull scroll]

also electro shriek as well

[primal oriole]

If I understood you correctly, two in the plan, then again a combination of electro and milli weapons with a certain type of modifier?

@shut kite @dull scroll

[ripe obsidian]

Psyker has a lot of powerful builds.

If you are playing Auric or below, anything works.

[primal oriole]

Well… Maybe i am then have skill issue, my damage is very low

[shut kite]

Electro/inferno doesnt have that high a skill ceiling beyond maybe some light animation cancelling, so Id recommend newer players try voidstrike, voidblast, melee, or gun first to build a stronger skill base. That said, just play whatever you find the most fun, even if youre dying.

Tho inferno is definitely the most "powerful"

[ripe obsidian]

Voidstrike + Shriek is my favorite when playing Auric and below.

[ripe obsidian]

Ehhhhhhhhh, not really in non-Havoc

Inferno struggles hard due to low HP and low density. No time or ability to scale up

[shut kite]

Its the easiest to play still and will still clear any horde

[primal oriole]

Understand, i’ll try when ill return home

[ripe obsidian]

Tbh I don't think Inferno is the easiest to play.

Based on how I see people play with it

[primal oriole]

Then this is idea

[shut kite]

Yea good idea tbh

[ripe obsidian]

Inferno does a lot of horde damage, but it has bad mobility and limited ability to deal with immediate threats

[shut kite]

All the other staffs have the same disadvantage and are harder to play (besides maybe electro)

[ripe obsidian]

Disagree. Voidblast and EK have guaranteed CC on everything short of bosses.

[shut kite]

Idk maybe im too jaded

[ripe obsidian]

Inferno has high damage for fewer inputs than other staves

But even in H40, most people suck with it

I outdamaged an Inferno + Shriek psyker with shield + forceful arby

[shut kite]

Still feel like its harder to perform at the same level with voidblast comparatively

[ripe obsidian]

Tons of people just spam LMB for stagger instead of positioning well and using RMB

[shut kite]

true

[ripe obsidian]

Voidblast has harder peril management, but the CC is obscene

[shut kite]

Yeah but you do deal alot less damage

[ripe obsidian]

Not really

[shut kite]

Depends ig

[ripe obsidian]

I can output similar damage on EK, VB, and Inferno (all paired with Shriek)

Shriek does half my damage, tho

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1004447866250613048/1295449409160478781/chiquichico-ezgif.com-instagif.gif

[shut kite]

For me it requires a lot more effort (with 1-2 cancelling), meanwhile i can fall asleep playing inferno

[thorn cedar]

Inferno damage is super overstated.

No disagreement that it is perhaps the highest damage for the lowest player input ratio of all builds.

But that still doesn't mean it's an easy, even instant "do 2mil damage and win" build.

And yeah difficulty level is a massive caveat to its potential output.

[shut kite]

Still feel like its by far the easiest to perform with - mechanics wise

[primal oriole]

Thanks by the way, i’ll try

[thorn cedar]

lmao

"man maybe i should try EK, i havent done it since it got reworked"

check my inventory

literally 0 EK staffs

[radiant frigate]

xd

[thorn cedar]

1,000~ clvl psyker btw

i am assuming i burned them all for mastery levels

[radiant frigate]

inferno farms a gorillion trash damage

[thorn cedar]

seems VERY unlikely i never got a single one ever forever for three years as a mission reward

[radiant frigate]

but is trash damage worth that much?

i sayeth unto thee, NAY

[thorn cedar]

NAYETH

[radiant frigate]

[prisma nova]

depends. opens up a lot of non horde clear weapons on the team to increase boss or elite damage (duelling sword anyone?) if needed. Only really happens in havoc, though.

[radiant frigate]

why must you answer my rhetorical question

[prisma nova]

why do you pose rhetorical questions that are not easy identifiable as rhetorical for a non native speaker? enough darktide discord for me.

[dire wharf]

Is this where the cool psykers hang out

[radiant frigate]

yes hello this is the council of wizards

[wind spruce]

No, its where the hot psykers hang out

[radiant frigate]

for scrying, down the hall and to the left

for actual divination, to the right

[dire wharf]

And you demand to be taken seriously?

[thorn cedar]

we too busy gazing in here

[wind spruce]

Hot and uncool 🫡

[thorn cedar]

on each other

usually in a circle

[radiant frigate]

no not really

i am simply here to have a good time

what did you expect

[dire wharf]

My poor arrested development reference

I'm just looking for some psyker tips to get gud

[radiant frigate]

burned it down like the precious banana stand

[thorn cedar]

i have no idea how to make an EK build

still four points left

yknow what, make that three points. i cant be convinced not to take mind in motion

also not actually sold on EP, not that ive played this yet

but i dont super care for warp charges in general and the idea is smite throws the trash down so i can left/right click the elites

PC does the rest with shriek

[dull scroll]

here, I shall take pity

[thorn cedar]

gonna do my drug fuelled nonsense first

[timber moon]

rip

Darktide mod bot deleted my post asking for build adjustments.

Guess I'll have to figure that part out myself

[thorn cedar]

went with DD

[rigid sky]

What do you want to work on?

[dire wharf]

Lately I've been trying to find what secondary weapon works best for me

[rigid sky]

all the staves are great for the uprising-damnation curve, and if you're ballsy enough they all work great on auric+ too

other than that, we also make great use of guns, but we need to get deep in the talent tree to really go wild with them

for guns, I favour vraks 5 infantry autogun mostly, but a lot of people like laspistols and recons, some people like bolt pistols, others have wackier tastes

what kind of direction do you wanna go in? The most important thing is that your build has to fit your secondary

more so than any other class, a psyker fits its entire build around its secondary weapon

[dire wharf]

I like the heavy las pistol and the zarona revolver but the included carpal tunnel isnt so fun

[dire wharf]

What secondary pairs well with the force swords?

[rigid sky]

which force sword lmao

illisi is kind of a lost cause right now, it's fallen way out of line with how the game has developed

obscurus and deimos are both excellent choices for a primary caster build focusing on the voidblast or inferno staves

I kinda like the force greatsword 6 for use with the voidstrike staff or with guns

[dire wharf]

Mk VIII BFG

[ornate hamlet]

big fucking greatsword

[dire wharf]

I was using 6 at first but I love the push attack on the 8

I just need to remember to use it more often

[rigid sky]

The 6 has the poke attack in its heavy chain

I prefer it strongly for anti-crusher-blob

and general anti-elite

you have to remember to use the heavy attack in the horde clear chain, but I think it's outright superior to the 8

8 is excellent, but 6 is just better

[dire wharf]

What's better about it?

[verbal thistle]

easier access to stab

[rigid sky]

also first heavy attack is a strikedown

doesn't waste time on a horizontal first

it's a more flexible weapon

the cost is that instead of getting to LLLLLLLL against crowds, you have to LLHL loop

or whatever it is

it's 3 Ls and an H in a 4 part combo anyway

(the visual cue for it is that you have to do a heavy after your upwards diagonal swing)

for the love of jimmy space, take the attack speed node if you go fgs though

[dull scroll]

6 has better heavy single target for elites, 8 better light clear for horde
but since the special already destroy hordes, most opt to go 6

[dim hull]

for EK spam do you just need to get used to quelling every 3-4 shots

[verbal thistle]

quell when you are about to explode

[dim hull]

Yea I meant when near 100

Theres this period of like 3-4s when ability isnt quite back up, even with full cdr on curios and talents

[radiant frigate]

mk6 sweep

[dire wharf]

@rigid sky alright I'll give 6 another go

[rigid sky]

mark 6 isn't significantly worse tbh

you just have to mix in that heavy

[dull scroll]

yes, after your sword go top left do a heavy 😌

[dire wharf]

Thanks for breaking it down for me

[dull scroll]

though 8's light spam is godlike, perfect head lvl horizontals on all moves, and better push atk

[rigid sky]

the push attack is a lovely combo

[dull scroll]

if they just get rid of that horrible h1 it would be a lot better

[rigid sky]

shoves a crusher onto its ass and then a claymore into its skull

but I think the 6 is still an overhead at least

which isn't bad at all

it's as good as the spammable mark 8 heavies

[dire wharf]

@rigid sky how about perks and blessings? Currently have carapace/flak and shred/unstable power

[rigid sky]

I think I swap flak for unyielding on my fgs

since it kills basically anything smaller than an ogryn in one anyway

I think I'm shred riposte or unstable power riposte

I primarily use my fgs6 with my vraks 5 IAG build

[dire wharf]

Ok

[zealous wing]

or a block cancel

[zealous wing]

flak for unyielding, otherwise perfect

unstable power should never be dropped

20% strength is nothing to scoff at

[zealous wing]

thanks fatshark for causing my PCs first ever blue screen

idk what theyre doing over there but "optimising" is not one of them

[deft stump]

Pretty sure optimisation is a never lul.

[zealous wing]

pretty much

the 6gb patch recently has fucked up so much

[dire wharf]

I'm getting about a dozen disconnects a day these last few days

[zealous wing]

a friend has been crashing every couple games after it, someone else was crashing nonstop, heretic AI pathing is weird sometimes, they fucked up

i just wanted to run some solos to test and refine this build, not wait for my drive to be repaired

can finally load back in

[deft stump]

I just have a way harder time pushing or dodging anything 3 to 400 ping.

Also the... 40~ avg fps.

[sharp island]

Whats a good staff playasa

[verbal thistle]

Getting close to finish this solo

H40 solo Melee psyker

Attempts: 28

Deaths:
Mauler: 10
Trapper: 5
Dog: 1
Crusher: 4
Shooters: 2
Reaper: 1
Rodin: 1
Cspawn: 2
Burster: 1
Shotgunners: 1

todays attempts

[gusty wasp]

any good psyker mods for warp tracking you guys recommend?

thinking bar in lieu of numbers

[verbal thistle]

warp tracking?

like peril management?

[gusty wasp]

ya

[verbal thistle]

I have peril gauge that gives me a more accurate peril %

[gusty wasp]

So I like that, but figure a bar is easier to read quickly. Is there a way to add a bar with that mod in addition to the #'s?

[verbal thistle]

I think there is a bar option with the mod

[gusty wasp]

ok I'll check it out, thank you 🙂

Oh yeah, there is definitlely a bar

huge improvement, ty Ainz

[ripe obsidian]

Ah, fatshark

[verbal thistle]

lmao

[rich spindle]

Wut

[jovial juniper]

Melee
Looks inside
Ranged

[thorn cedar]

ok so left click EK is pretty fun i put it off for way too long

i still havent really figured out how to build my tree exactly but tomorrow is another day for more reiteration

[dire wharf]

What perks/blessings are you using on ek staff

[thorn cedar]

havent given the perks much thought

just did crit and elite

blessings did surge and warp nexus

[ripe obsidian]

I don't think +crit chance is very good on LMB EK, honestly.

Because of pseudorandom crit chance

[plucky flax]

Me when I decide to just not get hit by range attacks ee op Xd
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1425911705703026800/Desktop_2025.10.09_-_19.22.48.04.mp4?ex=699c9b42&is=699b49c2&hm=e2644f88b8d2102f86701a1772f2c69d90bcade8c498027e5924440737f20a3c&

[unkempt panther]

But my wrists...

[deft stump]

You can play?

[plucky flax]

Nein

[deft stump]

So, how goes DLing new singleplayer games?

[plucky flax]

Should be good to download. Just not been gaming much.

Still haven't finish kcd2 but I'm close.

Then might download fallout new vegas modpack.

[deft stump]

Ah. Too busy, I guess.

[spice aurora]

y reddit upvote "omg TIL i can push dog" and not upvote any good gameplay

salty cause in extreme negative votesfor gameplay upload >:[

[verbal thistle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1329628197221826681/1474935063966908467/twitter-gif-2025033030566641726_699a5640a0261.gif

[plucky flax]

Kind of yeah and just tired. Sleep all day

[dull scroll]

ascension symptoms 👀

[deft stump]

Are they working you to the bone?

[plucky flax]

Not really I have 2 days on 2 days off

[wind spruce]

Wait wtf

Im assuming that means staffs and even assail are affected

[summer prairie]

that's a newish change, only since No Man's land

[radiant frigate]

I'm assuming this means it also affects RoF on guns

[zealous wing]

assail no, staff yes

we tried

so, its a must have on surge surge imo now

also,

assail isnt affected by warp ghosts peril passive quell "debuff"

if you want to passively quell faster, just hold your assail

[ionic sorrel]

surge on surge is the best, this is my baby for lmb spam.

[summer prairie]

15 h40 lobbies on HK server, dang

[ionic sorrel]

Man, good for them.

We need to do some PR for the other servers.

[summer prairie]

the attack speed node doesn't seem to speed up recon las, I guess it doesn't have animations to speed up, just some minimum fixed delay between shots

at least with xii

[plucky flax]

0 in central asia

[thorn cedar]

ur psuedorandom

i have no real idea what perks to put on though other than maybe flak just to do it. the thing machine guns and does pretty good damage to everything not carapace

i basically never right click the staff

actually i use smite as my right click to quickly lock up a fast target and then just swap back to left click their face off lol

my idea of using smite to push chaff down did not at all play out because this staff is ridiculous

this is my basic framework, five points left over that im unsure how to use

I tried ER which is very comfortable but totally unnecessary

Especially with warp unbound, if i do take that

[deft stump]

Is ded server.

Hell, you rubberband on it so hard

[zealous wing]

i would reach across wildfire and grab empyric shock

i'd want warp rider as well

then maybe the minor ranged damage node just to put the point somewhere

[thorn cedar]

i want empyric but not that badly

not at the cost of wildfire which does nothing for me lol

[deft stump]

General thinks I don't know Psyker blitzs, let alone the one used for lvling.

[zealous wing]

i mean, you said yourself you dont know where to put the points, so whats the harm ?

[thorn cedar]

oh i did like

six matches of this build and the tree was different every time

focused channeling i ditched cause i almost never right click and actually full charging is less than never

emyric is okay but i dont want souldrinker or focused or wildfire so i can live without it

MM is more accessible and has similar output and is easier to keep uptime on

if i used warp charges i could see wildfire coming into the picture again but i hate warp charges

[thorn cedar]

actually MM is just ....... better period

land five left clicks to make a single target take 30% more warp damage
Vs
Just melee one dude every eight seconds to have 25% global warp damage bonus and also 25% nonwarp hmmmm

[rich spindle]

I think elites + something else is probably the best pick for ek

[icy breach]

Empyric is purely for bosses if you use Brain Rupture with EP

[thorn cedar]

negative, i am a smite popsicle

[thorn cedar]

in my mind rn its flak/unyielding + elites

[rich spindle]

Flak/unyield/maniac are prob equally good

[icy breach]

Use flak & unyielding; its best
Can always take crit chance too (in that case stick with flak)

[summer prairie]

if you have fgs you typically melee most unyielding enemies except reapers sometimes

[barren field]

havoc too hard

[thorn cedar]

my melee rn is a taxe

cause otherwise all my builds are just deimos or fgs

im so close to just doing deimos for this as well

big dodges, decent sprint, uncanny strike

cant really go wrong

rather not have fgs cause then my overall mobility is low

[cosmic sigil]

deimos feels like having 0.9 of a fgs but twice the mobility

[thorn cedar]

all i need is a weapon with a quick strong hit to keep MM uptime

and good dodges for melee if things get sour

tired of ALL my psyker builds being deimos/fgs tho

[cosmic sigil]

heavy sword?

[thorn cedar]

never vibed with them too hard

also crushers are the one definite weak point in the build and hsword aint hot there

[cosmic sigil]

you could use knife, but you'll lack some horde clear tho

[radiant frigate]

duolingo..

[marble crater]

Stroked Illisi

[lament quail]

Since when is swagger allowed on mourningstar

?

[cosmic sigil]

at least a year

[lament quail]

Now i noticed

[modern bluff]

Nobody can tell it's him cause he wears a mask

[lament quail]

Good point

I checked the bonanza builds and decided to go with No Empyric Resolve v2

Build

Electrokinetic staff and venting shriek

[modern bluff]

Nah man. Rock the Voidstrike staff with it instead so you can put that soulfire blessing on it. Stacks up to 6

Electrokinetic benefits more from Scrier's Gaze cause of the Critical Bonus stat

[radiant frigate]

i will simply assume this is bait

[modern bluff]

You know there's more than one way to play the game, right?

[cosmic sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/kant-immanuel-kant-no-you-kant-philosophy-gif-16359244

[radiant frigate]

yeah but blazing spirit on voidstrike does nothing

voidstrike crits generally obliterate what they hit

and the explosion radius is so minimal

[modern bluff]

You can apply Soulblaze with the left clicks

[lament quail]

I dont even remember what soulblaze is

[modern bluff]

Combine it with Perilous and Wildfire and it'll spread to everything

[cosmic sigil]

warp fire

[radiant frigate]

up to 6, and on what targets exactly?

[thorn cedar]

yea youre only really applying it to reapers and crushers

[modern bluff]

lol @lament quail go to Strike Party 2. I'll demo it real fast.

[thorn cedar]

and monsters

[lament quail]

I cant

[radiant frigate]

6 stacks of soulblaze on monsters sound like a drop in the ocean

6 stacks sound like you should be hitting them with literally anything else

[thorn cedar]

its almost 1/5 of a toxin

!!!

[radiant frigate]

but if you apply 6 stacks and then shriek you can have 12!!

[thorn cedar]

big brain

[modern bluff]

You're still not paying attention to everything I said

You need two more talents to make the build work

If you look at just the 6 stacks, yeah it's ass

[thorn cedar]

and if you lure fifteen elites around the monster first you can stack PC

[radiant frigate]

so you can spread minor amounts of soulblaze to other things

[modern bluff]

but if you buff everything that works with it, it's absoulutely doable

[radiant frigate]

which shriek already does

doable sure but blazing spirit is not doing you any favors

[modern bluff]

You can literally just join the stream and watch

[thorn cedar]

ah fuck winter is back again

time for soup

[dire wharf]

It left?

[radiant frigate]

was it ever here?

[thorn cedar]

yea we just had our second false spring

[marble crater]

Meanwhile New York...

[radiant frigate]

whatever happened to old york

do we ever talk about that

[marble crater]

Vikings happened

[radiant frigate]

RIP old york

[ripe obsidian]

War of the Roses also happened

[ripe obsidian]

That is arguably my favorite H40 build.

[lament quail]

Its acutally that good,m

?

I wasnt expecting it to be great for havoc

[ripe obsidian]

Yes.

LMB EK chews through most enemies. Shriek clears hordes. FGS chops up everything else

It's a jack of all trades build, but I've done True Survivor runs with it.

[rich spindle]

Ek stagger and suppression is underrated too

[dire wharf]

I can't read LMB without thinking Division

[ripe obsidian]

This is true. And you still have like 70% or higher crit chance with Shriek, so constant EE and Mettle uptime

[marble crater]

Also constant CTS

[rich spindle]

Get the auto fire mod

[dire wharf]

Cries in xbox

[ripe obsidian]

In regards to the guy vehemently defending Blazing Spirit Voidstrike, play the game however you want. So long as you're having fun and not actively stopping others from having fun, all is good.

But that doesn't mean the build is strong. Using LMB on Voidstrike to spread soulblaze means you're doing piddling damage compared with RMB, Assail, or melee. Blazing Spirit doesn't apply if your crit kills an enemy, which Voidstrike RMB crits tend to do. And if enemies are affected by Shriek or 2 instances of Perilous Combustion, you cannot give them more fire with Voidstrike. Unlike Voidblast, where the AoE means like 50 enemies get enblazened with a single RMB crit, Voidstrike struggles against crowds.

This is assuming you weren't just ragebaiting.

[modern bluff]

It's not, but none of you have any decency is just LOOKING at the live stream when I present it.

[radiant frigate]

why recommend it then

[ripe obsidian]

I'm literally at work.

[marble crater]

Blaze Voidstrike

[ripe obsidian]

But okay.