IDK, but FS seems to like buffing right side.
#psyker-class
deft stump
weary idol
IDK, but FS seems to like buffing right side.
SG's description will be novel length by 2028
deft stump
SG's description will be novel length by 2028
They need to add a manual just for SG.
Just for a file with 600 pages dedicated to it and explaining it.
zealous wing
talent description ingame: "read the guide" with no link to said guide
wind spruce
SG's description will be novel length by 2028
I want an attack speed buff thrown in there
We deserve it
deft stump
talent description ingame: "read the guide" with no link to said guide
And the guide is just hidden in the files somewhere random.
summer prairie
I think it still needs work. I don't think it's quite as good as people think it is, depends on the build of course
if you have to keep your peril low to get the stacks up, you are sacrificing damage from e.g. warp rider and unstable power until that
the bonuses you get until your stacks are up are pretty weak
narrow herald
Am I the only person here who still uses surge staff secondary?
Cowards!
Come at me
wind spruce
if you have to keep your peril low to get the stacks up, you are sacrificing dam...
Assail weave largely solves over-quelling with bcob
Scrier's provides the only actually high skill ceiling peril management
You don't have to and shouldn't be keeping it low and impacting warp rider/unstable power
The answer has always been bcob + BM + assail weaving during scrier's, not taking KF like a faceroller
rigid sky
They need to add a manual just for SG.
Friggin Starry Sky Motif level shit
Render a star streaming sky over a magicked landscape, increasing damage dealt by self and nearby party members by 5%.
Duration: 20s
Additional Effect: Grants Subtractive Spectrum
Duration: 30s
Additional Effect: Grants Inspiration and 5 stacks of Hyperphantasia
Stacks of Hyperphantasia are consumed upon casting certain spells while under the effect of Inspiration.
Duration: 30s
Inspiration Effect: Reduces cast time and recast time of Star Prism and Aetherhue spells by 25% while standing within the bounds of the magicked landscape
Effect expires when all stacks of Hyperphantasia are consumed.
Additional Effect: Grants Rainbow Bright upon consuming all 5 stacks of Hyperphantasia
Rainbow Bright Effect: Rainbow Drip can be cast immediately and has a reduced recast timer
Additional Effect: Grants Starstruck
Duration: 20s
Can only be executed while a starry sky is painted on the Landscape Canvas.
※This action cannot be assigned to a hotbar.
※Scenic Muse changes to Starry Muse when requirements for execution are met.
deft stump
And then more needed to explain the other stuff?
rigid sky
It's actually really easy in practice but the yugioh-ass description makes me laugh
unkempt panther
That was a somewhat recent change. Scriers gaze IIRC didn't originally reduce peril.
deft stump
Cos what even is Hyperphantasia?
rigid sky
Fast cast speed on damage spells that aren't Hammer attacks iirc
deft stump
Oh
rigid sky
Oh wait that's Inspiration lmao
Hyperphantasia is something which determines if you have Inspiration, and if you spend all of them you get Rainbow Bright
Easy :D
deft stump
Also sounds like some weird translated chinese MMO.
deft stump
Oh.
rigid sky
They ran out of ideas and gave most classes an "All Systems Engage" button that activates all of their shit on a 2 minute cooldown
unkempt panther
It's final fantasy 14
Yea, I think this part was the giveaway for anyone who played it:
※This action cannot be assigned to a hotbar.
※Scenic Muse changes to Starry Muse when requirements for execution are met.
rigid sky
They do love that symbol.
unkempt panther
They ran out of ideas and gave most classes an "All Systems Engage" button that ...
Their class balancing has been downhill for a while now, steadily removing all differentiation between classes, which made me sad.
FFXIV ❤️
deft stump
They ran out of ideas and gave most classes an "All Systems Engage" button that ...
Sounds boring.
rigid sky
Encounter design makes up for it imo
deft stump
Yea, I think this part was the giveaway for anyone who played it:
> ※This action...
Thing is, I played shitty mobile Chinese MMOs that uses it as well.
unkempt panther
mm
rigid sky
Game is mostly past its peak in a lot of ways
But the encounter design has been awesome this expansion
unkempt panther
The FFXIV story is maybe my favorite video game story ever, especially Shadowbringers. ❤️ Emet-Selch.
deft stump
During bouts of I need more casual games but out of funds for them.
unkempt panther
Emet-Selch also has the drip.
deft stump
Also every picross app on mobile without a price tag is finished.
unkempt panther
The latest raid is effectively a pro wrestling homage
all of Arcadia? I linked above "Everything Burns" which is one of the raid songs, because we like fire here in psyker central.
rigid sky
Complete with commentary
rigid sky
all of Arcadia? I linked above "Everything Burns" which is one of the raid songs...
All 12 fights of it
unkempt panther
Most fiction writers wish they could write a villain half as compelling as Emet-Selch.
rigid sky
One of the bad guys knocks the referee out to avoid getting disqualified for illegal doping midfight
It's an entire mechanic
unkempt panther
lols
And then they like transferred all of the good writers to other projects for the next expansion, Dawntrail. The reviews have made me not yet willing to dish out the money to play it.
unkempt panther
Gameplay is solid
I have no doubt. ❤️ FFXIV.
rigid sky
Besides maybe the endwanker patches
unkempt panther
But it's the weakest FF14 plot by far
Like worse than the slow parts of Stormwind? That's brutal.
rigid sky
Just my opinion
unkempt panther
heh
rigid sky
But I loved stormblood tbh
unkempt panther
stormblood*
unkempt panther
When I was bored, I would just queue into a bunch of fun primal fights like Titan Ex, Shiva Ex, first Omega,
rigid sky
You'd probably like Unreals
unkempt panther
rigid sky
Classic raid bosses tuned up to max level with a strict item level sync
unkempt panther
Back when men were men, and women were equally awesome, and clearing Titan Ex meant something. The first gate for new players of the game, where you learned to gid good or go home. Dodge or die.
rigid sky
Awful design, especially with pre-HW euro latency lmao
unkempt panther
lmfao
unkempt panther
But genestealers for this game when? And when chaos space marine miniboss?
I know the answer is probably never for the nids, but chaos space marine boss could happen.
still spindle
For the very first time ever, melk has actually given me a good item
-# This is only the second +17% toughness curio I've ever seen
deft stump
For the very first time ever, melk has actually given me a *good item*
He gave me a +3 stam.
On a class with 7 +3 stams.
still spindle
deft stump
I need more 21% hp damnit.
still spindle
I have yet to see a +21% hp
deft stump
So I have at least 3.
still spindle
My current HP curio is 20%
deft stump
That class specifically only has 1 21%.
3x 17%, 1 21%, 7+3 stam (410+).
And I nuked over 100k melkbux to gamble.
Good thing you can totally run 3x toughness or 1 stam 2 toughness.
spice aurora
wat be the difference between mk 8 fgs and the skin in store
loud olive
ok how does blessed by fate work cause ive used psykinetics wrath at 100% peril and havent got one bit of progress
ripe obsidian
My current HP curio is 20%
That 1% HP is make or break. I'd never be caught dead with a 20% HP peasant.
thorn cedar
I would rather cut my belly than bestow upon my family the deep shame of equipping a less-than-21% health curio in DarkTide(TM)
zealous wing
wat be the difference between mk 8 fgs and the skin in store
roy also was confused, so you might be too. you might mean:
its not FGS, its illisi
jovial juniper
ok how does blessed by fate work cause ive used psykinetics wrath at 100% peril ...
You gotta be mid exploding animation
loud olive
You gotta be mid exploding animation
oohhhhh thanks
spice aurora
roy also was confused, so you might be too. you might mean:
Oh shi thanks I thought it was fgs lol
deft stump
ok how does blessed by fate work cause ive used psykinetics wrath at 100% peril ...
You need to use it when your char puts their hands to their face.
So you need to technically go over 100%.
loud olive
and no xp cause i keep getting dced right as a mission ends
but yeah one game 29/50 for that
zealous wing
Oh shi thanks I thought it was fgs lol
two FGS skins in such a short time? nah you'd hear me screaming
id fuckin LOVE mk8 as a skin on mk6 ngl
fierce frost
What’s the verdict on Wildfire as a talent for Purg staff builds? Does it go as crazy as Perilous Combustion?
fierce frost
Does it overcap stacks like perilous combustion?
zealous wing
@ripe obsidian
fierce frost
Would you drop Malefic Momentum, Empyric Shock, or Vulnerable Minds for it? I have Just a Dream too but I like that because im bad at the game
ripe obsidian
Wildfire is a combination talent that requires other talents to work well, but if you have them, it's wild
fierce frost
Wildfire is a combination talent that requires other talents to work well, but i...
Which others?
ripe obsidian
And absolutely drop Empyric Shock and Malefic Momentum.
deft stump
Which others?
PC+Running Inferno staff or Blazing Trauma.
fierce frost
Okay yeah that’s what im running
ripe obsidian
Yes, what Karien said
deft stump
You also want creeping flames vent.
fierce frost
Should I drop both Shock & Momentum? Only other talent I think I’d grab is Mettle
zealous wing
grab mettle
fierce frost
You also want creeping flames vent.
This is for a bubble build
zealous wing
you should already have mettle
fierce frost
Going for ASS & Havoc
zealous wing
and perfect timing
deft stump
This is for a bubble build
Then yeah, only those two staves. With Vent, you can maybe use EK as well.
zealous wing
drop battle med, grab KF, grab mettle
fierce frost
I’m trying to be extra safe bc again im bad at the game
zealous wing
kinetic flayer
ripe obsidian
JaD on non-SG builds makes me sad.
sage plaza
^
sage plaza
Quick question: which BFS is best for Havoc, Illisi or Deimos?
zealous wing
of the two, deimos
fierce frost
JaD on non-SG builds makes me sad.
What’s SG?
zealous wing
scriers
ripe obsidian
Scrier's Gaze
fierce frost
Ohhh
ripe obsidian
JaD kills me so much when I use it
fierce frost
Yeah JaD goes crazy on that
sage plaza
of the two, deimos
Because it's stronger?
deft stump
Because it's stronger?
No, easier.
zealous wing
because illisi is sad
sage plaza
lol
deft stump
L1 H2 spam.
ripe obsidian
Because it's stronger?
Illisi wishes it were FGS. Deimos pokes crushers and makes them fall on their butts.
fierce frost
Why are we down on Empyric Shock?
sage plaza
damn
deft stump
Especially if running a horde clear staff.
verbal thistle
Quick question: which BFS is best for Havoc, Illisi or Deimos?
Obscurus
Obscurus
Mobile moment
sage plaza
Especially if running a horde clear staff.
Ok yeah that makes sense.
fierce frost
I also hear mixed things on KF. I love it when it procs on Crushers, everything else I feel like doesn’t need it with Purg
ripe obsidian
Who in tarnation is saying mixed things about KF
verbal thistle
It's a free 100% uptime 2k damage every 12 sec
zealous wing
or more
verbal thistle
That kills all specials bar 2
ripe obsidian
Not even accounting for the chain reaction elements of KF+PC, it's easily a 10% total damage boost
deft stump
I also hear mixed things on KF. I love it when it procs on Crushers, everything ...
Just take it, always funny to run off and somehow still be killing things.
marble crater
Who in tarnation is saying mixed things about KF
People in the past, I wonder if new players sometimes stumble across old posts from before the rework(s) and then think it's bad, because the new players don't know it was changed
fierce frost
im coming back after being away for a lil while
deft stump
im coming back after being away for a lil while
It's literally just free BB every 12 secs on anything that isn't chaff or a boomer.
fierce frost
It's literally just free BB every 12 secs on anything that isn't chaff or a boom...
Yeah im going to add it after your guys’ input
I think the last real talent decision I have then is Mettle vs Empyric Shock. ES feels like easy to proc damage buff. Mettle gives lots of move speed. The toughness feels way weaker than before since it’s ~3% per second now, when I also have Soul Drinker giving the same but with Crit Chance
sage plaza
Another question: is Malefic Momentum worth it for Havoc?
My havoc build is a soulblaze one, PC+Souldrinker+Wildfire+Purg staff
wind spruce
Another question: is Malefic Momentum worth it for Havoc?
Pretty low value more often than not
ripe obsidian
Another question: is Malefic Momentum worth it for Havoc?
On Assail Meleeker, great. On non-Assail FGS meleeker, quite good. On anything else... iffy.
wind spruce
If youre weaving assail in it can get value
wind spruce
On Assail Meleeker, great. On non-Assail FGS meleeker, quite good. On anything e...
Even on non-assail meleeker id only take it wih FGS
sage plaza
I don't let my peril sit high, I tend to yoyo peril.
ripe obsidian
I kinda conflate meleeker with FGS at this point
wind spruce
Soulblaze and KF alone doesnt keep the non-warp damage up
So its really only juice for PC procs, KF and FGS special
sage plaza
Wrap Rider or Vulnerable Minds?
sage plaza
Also for Havoc, which one:
-Anticipation
-Just A Dream
-One With the Warp
wind spruce
One with the warp
Anticipation is hard to judge, its very dependant on personal preference and skill
Great node but some dont feel they need it, others find it comfy because dodges are goated, and others are so goated at utilising dodges, slides etc that they take for extra utility
sage plaza
ok thx
deft stump
Great node but some dont feel they need it, others find it comfy because dodges ...
And some take it cos 300 ping ??? extra dodge might save me thing. Also the same reason for the nodes on arby and ganger.
wind spruce
And some take it cos 300 ping ??? extra dodge might save me thing. Also the same...
Very true
deft stump
1 more chance at gambling, lul.
fierce frost
What’s the thoughts on PotS for Purg staff builds??
verbal thistle
No
ripe obsidian
PotS is not good on Inferno.
spice aurora
id fuckin LOVE mk8 as a skin on mk6 ngl
The 6 is ugly and the icefall is cool but I like shiny blades
ripe obsidian
and the commissary ones are ASS
Auric Storm Survivors?
deft stump
Auric Storm Survivors?
You guys are telling me I need to use that title, isn't it?
unreal yew
I am inside the box
fluid knot
Tertium soapbox races are next week
zealous wing
rare storm
verbal thistle
It's fixed
loud olive
what some weapons i can use to level my psyker if im level 5?
unreal yew
Whatever you like it
sage pulsar
what some weapons i can use to level my psyker if im level 5?
if you want some build advice for leveling psyker I'd suggest looking in the (pretty massive) google doc and going to the 'for new psykers' section. It has some nice builds (and thus weapons) to use for leveling
loud olive
if you want some build advice for leveling psyker I'd suggest looking in the (pr...
thank you
sage pulsar
no trouble. like I said that build bonanza document is pretty damn huge, so if you got questions don't be afraid to ask. People'll generally be happy to help
personally when I leveled psyker I went with Hexis's Auric Gunker as it's called in the doc (or berpsyker as it's called elsewhere). It's a real fun build if you like the melee aspect of this game
zealous wing
what some weapons i can use to level my psyker if im level 5?
i am midmission atm but i can answer questions soon
deft stump
what some weapons i can use to level my psyker if im level 5?
Just take assail and use it as primary alongside a melee you are comfortable with. Maybe a gun if you started as vet first. Staves are awful till you max them out for most part.
That, and I wouldn't suggest them till you can access like 3/4th the talent tree anyway.
Some key nodes make playing them easier or more comfortable imo.
At lvl 16~, you can switch to a meleeker if so wished, investing into an FGS if you roll a good one by some stroke of luck plus a ton of tanky nodes in the center lets you do silly things even as a newbie. This is more of if you understand how to do melee combat as a squishy tbh, cos you are still kinda paper.
I'm also assuming you are playing in malice maybe heresy at that point.
zealous wing
what some weapons i can use to level my psyker if im level 5?
as karien said, assail will do a lot of heavy lifting for you, good for horde clearing assist. the blaze force sword deimos will be good for protecting you against armour, i do suggest the force greatsword once you hit lvl 10. as for ranged, laspistol, reconlas, or infantry autogun are good guns to learn and begin leveling the mastery of if you dont have it maxed yet. i suggest against staves until about lvl 25 so you have a decent spread of talents, but feel free to experiment with them, be warned they are peril hungry though
and, unleveled staves will perform underwhelmingly, but learning to aim/control them or just see how they work might interest you, up to you
foggy adder
do yall prefer the brittleness on the inferno staff
rich spindle
It’s a good pick for rotten armor
bleak frost
so I'm assisting a few friends in leveling up, they're new players. I would like to submit this as "fun as heck" - build. everything is on fire and I will not be stopped. (not optimized I know, just fun to light enemies on fire)
zealous wing
actually almost perfect reconlas
few small things but it definitely will function
dumdum infernus is indeed what goes on it
and 12 is the right mark
bleak frost
Oh I know. I just tweaked it around a bit to light everything on fire. Normally I have maniac and flak but swapped crit chance for more fire.
zealous wing
ye it works, even tho its crit rate is already really good, its fine lol
more ammo efficient
but, i suspect the magdumping will be real 
bleak frost
I'm playing uprisings and malice missions. so i can goof off a bit.
mainly I use smite to lock enemies in place so they can get the kills.
clear veldt
Hi Sparkheads
bleak frost
https://tenor.com/view/bro-gif-24276502
did I do something wrong?
I know I like it when I get my name on the "- killed xyz" so I figure other people do as well...
sharp shoal
Played with a arbites today
Who didn't have dog and didn't attack any boss and killed feed 100% of the lobby said they killed the bosses
zealous wing
did I do something wrong?
its mainly the smite part, but as long as youre not freezing the entire map all the time, letting them learn how to fight things, its likely not an issue
on another note, i go nyoom
bleak frost
its mainly the smite part, but as long as youre not freezing the entire map all ...
No just when it’s big issues like bulwarks and crushers.
Or like particularly butt-molestery hoards.
Y’all ever play a friggin uprising mission and get a plague ogryn DURING the boss fight?! Because I just did.
zealous wing
was it event
bleak frost
Yes.
bleak frost
Neat. My buddy was freaked out 😂 I was playing my hive scum and we had a rando ogryn in our party.
Shout out rando ogryn for being a survivor!
deft stump
Or like particularly butt-molestery hoards.
So 6 red stimmed ragers on uprising.
Bonus, they were somehow silent.
And actually butt molestingback uhhh chopping you.
zealous wing
So 6 red stimmed ragers on uprising.
actually smite wouldnt work there
you HAVE to fight those
deft stump
actually smite wouldnt work there
Thus, actually molested with no way of stopping.
Very funni to watch.
young zinc
coming back to the game after a while, are the two-handed force swords any good even though they only have 2 dodges now?
deft stump
coming back to the game after a while, are the two-handed force swords any good ...
Still 3. FS dodge counter terrible.
-1 shown on it.
young zinc
Still 3. FS dodge counter terrible.
I swear it used to be 4
deft stump
I swear it used to be 4
Anticipation?
tepid crypt
Which of the staves is the worst
deft stump
IGNORE THE GUY YELLING BUT LOOK THERE ARE TWO TRAPPERS IN ONE
Only 2? Seen 3 in one before, very loud and traumatising.
spice aurora
the legs were perfectly in sync like zero indication there are two, so weird xD
deft stump
I only found out because penetrating shot killed all three at once. 
Thought the sound system was karked again, nope, just 3x trappers and 3x nets shot at the exact same time at me.
plucky flax
Only 3? I've seen 4 at once
deft stump
Only 3? I've seen 4 at once
It was uprising train.
Yes, the game said fuck you.
Is why I keep saying they broke the specials on lower diffs.
I don't think 3 trappers nor 4 dogs on uprising seem correct, and there were other spawns as well.
Seen up to 3 muties at once as well.
Cos speeding through trains for 8 mission weeklies and the... no player deaths for 6 missions.
Bots die less than pubs.
knotty saddle
plucky flax
It was uprising train.
I only play sedition. 
sage plaza
Quick question: does Soulstealer trigger when enemies are killed by heavies juiced up by Charged Strike?
sharp shoal
relic blade also kills faster
you can poke a captain with mark 2 stealth zealot
and kill em in one hit
in havoc 40 to
spice aurora
fgs should get a momentum hit, no reason i should literally be flying with a large sward
zealous wing
plus, warp
crisp ether
A rapier one handed is more unwieldy than a greatsword two-handed lol
zealous wing
psyker greatswords are also developed to be lighter for psykers
sage plaza
Quick question: does Soulstealer trigger when enemies are killed by heavies juic...
Can I plz get an answer?
sage plaza
TYSM!
That's unfortunate, but still, Charged Strike on the Illisi FS is actually surprisingly useful.
Not Havoc useful, but enough to make it a reliable backup melee weapon.
Context: running it on my Smite + electrostaff casual build.
rich spindle
it would seem so, but if the electrocution dot kills then no
wait wouldnt it only proc on the elec dot
not the heavy
verbal thistle
Electrocution isn't a warp attack
If the heavy was a warp attack then it would
Ie a force sword special
rich spindle
this is so sad
rich spindle
yeah just constant one feeding the other
they gotta nerf the slice to make the 1h swords a little closer in power
would be cool if it was a single target nuke
sage plaza
Nah, keep the FGS slice power,
make the one-handed swords a tad stronger.
If anything gets changed at all, that is.
sage plaza
ornate hamlet
Illisi but with a strike heavy
sharp shoal
Well
Weapon wise
2 1 handed weapons
Compete for prime 1 shot mutie deletion
Deimos and heavy sword
rich spindle
fair vortex
which curios should psyker be using?
ornate hamlet
I use 1 health and 2 toughness with 3 toughness, 3 health and gunner/flamer/bomber perks
jade karma
is voidstrike good for power cell assistance
viscid matrix
which curios should psyker be using?
Full hp on all or full toughness on all
From there is preference
Gunner
Sniper
Ability
Revive speed
Corruption resist
If not doing havoks, throw curio reward on, so you can try and get the 21% hp or 17% toughness base
quartz barn
is voidstrike good for power cell assistance
I mean you just kill things, so doesnt matter what you use
But if you want crowd control just use voidblast or smite
tacit stump
my fav forcesword is deimos don't know why i use it more then obscurus ord illisi
tranquil sluice
apparently everyone says psyker is the strongest class atm, how does the psycho community feel about this news
tacit stump
try meeleker or gunker, or burn everything down with the inferno staff
then you know why
tranquil sluice
psyker was my first class, but it quickly became a class i never played, it was so vulnerable, also fell in love with the veteran weapons, plasma and bolter.
then i mained ogryn for the whole patch after it got a big buff.
radiant frigate
apparently everyone says psyker is the strongest class atm, how does the psycho ...
the council of wizards acknowledges the power they wield
psyker became my favorite at release because i got to skip shooter engagements so i can get back to the fun part faster
first class was zealot
viscid matrix
my fav forcesword is deimos don't know why i use it more then obscurus ord illis...
Because it is better single target damage then both
viscid matrix
psyker was my first class, but it quickly became a class i never played, it was ...
We have so much toughness recovery, the only way we die is when we do something stupid or get 1 shot
hardy citrus
Because it is better single target damage then both
Obscurus is better
viscid matrix
Obscurus is better
Probably I forget which is which between obscurus and Deimos
As I never use them
Illisi/ ds4/ knife for life
tacit stump
hope the mk6 knife
tranquil sluice
We have so much toughness recovery, the only way we die is when we do something ...
has there been any major buff to psyker damage? or is the change just survivability. i always felt super vulnerable in 2025 and earlier
or 24 i guess, did not play psyker in 25
oak echo
What's the interaction between warp ghost and empryic resolve?
Do the toughness gain modifiers get multiplied with each other, or added/subtracted?
viscid matrix
has there been any major buff to psyker damage? or is the change just survivabil...
Since we got the full tree we have had great damage
Survivability was lacking, when they reworked the tree, they gave us so many defensive layers and recovery
tranquil sluice
Since we got the full tree we have had great damage
Survivability was lacking, ...
when did you get the full tree?
viscid matrix
when did you get the full tree?
Like 2024
Before that is was 3 choices at each level bracket like Vermintide
The tree rework was a massive upgrade to survivability while keeping the damage
tranquil sluice
Like 2024
Before that is was 3 choices at each level bracket like Vermintide
was it like that for all classes, or just psyker?
viscid matrix
was it like that for all classes, or just psyker?
No idea, I only play psyker
manic bluff
quick question, could it be that kinetic flayer brainbursts do not count towards any penance?
tranquil sluice
quick question, could it be that kinetic flayer brainbursts do not count towards...
i think it counts, it does count toward the 1-shot achivment, but test it in 1 game not using manual burst at all
manic bluff
will do
manic bluff
i use flak and unyielding
quartz barn
Crit + flak
Crits apply an extra sb stack
And ye cara on inferno is a waste because sb has a 0.1 modifier against cara 
rich spindle
You can put stamina and sprint efficiency and still do 2m damage
sly raft
Does the blessing only take effect when they are put on a weapon ?
marble crater
Yes
sly raft
So when i level up the blessings in masteries it's just to be able to put on the tier and higher tiers of that blessing?
deft stump
So when i level up the blessings in masteries it's just to be able to put on the...
Yes.
In a way, is better than straight up needing to gamble.
sly raft
I see, makes sense now xD I hope i will be able to max out the blessing i need now then
sly raft
Nice. Good to know
calm gazelle
guys any idea what curio i should use on psyker like i got two rn one with + toughness and one with + wound just dont know what i should get for the third one , any suggestion
sinful olive
guys any idea what curio i should use on psyker like i got two rn one with + tou...
Triple toughness or 1x health 2x toughness is pretty standard. Stamina is somewhat wasted because Warp Ghost is taken by a lot of builds and is a very strong talent which provides stamina.
calm gazelle
ohhh i see i may as well just use one +wound to make it more forgiving lmao
deft stump
ohhh i see i may as well just use one +wound to make it more forgiving lmao
I'll say this, Stamina is better than wound and there's a reason you don't run stamina.
Unless you are doing stupid crystalline will suisyker things.
wooden sand
Wound is worse in general
deft stump
But then again, that's a meme build.
wooden sand
It's only good for one specially zealot type of build
Which is having low health and being a god
deft stump
And mind you, I run +9 stam when doing dumb things.
radiant frigate
wound curios are for martyr zealot
modest perch
martyrdom ogryn 
unreal yew
guess you can't run anything in havoc that isn't bubble because people just assume psyker = bubble
modest perch
better yet martyrdom gunlugger.
radiant frigate
Need +2 wounds curio
only if it's 0.1% drop chance 430 rating
plucky flax
guess you can't run anything in havoc that isn't bubble because people just assu...
You can but easier to host your own games
So ppl can't complain about your build as much
strange igloo
So ppl can't complain about your build as much
I genuinely have never had someone complain about my build
but I always run bubble 
manic bluff
so, after some extensive testing: "Kinetic Flayer" does NOT count for any penances involving Brainburst
strange igloo
I need to make a brainburst only build
manic bluff
yeah ... quite a few penances required
and that makes the poxhoudn one sound like it will be luck based
strange igloo
its great at killing elites
plucky flax
but I always run bubble <:kek:1045021806144262244>
Tru
ruby bloom
Lowkey bubble is just the solo queue experience
It lets you play exactly how you’re not supposed to
modest perch
mfw no balloon
lucid oriole
How do you get sainted weapons
jovial juniper
Mod
marble crater
Install the mod that makes that purely cosmetic change 
manic bluff
honestly it is dumb that the brainburst penances do not work with the automatic one.... feels super clunky to play without it
kinda like pre skilltree psyker
still spindle
I imagine the auto brain burst probably has some tracking issues, it might very well be that kills from kinetic flayer go to the weapon that triggered the kinetic flayer
And trying to fix that is a level of hassle that's not worth it
manic bluff
possible. i thought the tracking coudl be tied to the trigger of the brainburst from kinetic flayer. but i am no programmer ^^'
still spindle
Probably helps a lot when kinetic flayer triggers in a case when the target would have died anyway. I've noticed that it's actually fairly good at not triggering like that but sometimes it does
Also, I just imagined a fun world where kinetic flayer actually interacts with empowered psionics, giving melee builds an actual reason to consider picking it over disrupt destiny
-# I feel like I never see anyone running empowered psionics
verbal thistle
It does
EP buffs KF but doesn't take a stack away when used
People don't use EP because they don't know how to use it/what's the best case for it
I used EP BB for my Havoc 40 duo
verbal thistle
Depends on how you are going to use it
Destiny does alot for great sword
But if you are more inclined to a passive role EP would help BB more since great sword wouldn't be used as much
Or if you aren't comfortable with keeping up destiny stacks
With my playstyle it wouldn't help as much
Since I am hyper agro and always in front of my enemy and keeping up my destiny stacks
For a melee focus build, assail EP would be a better job then EP BB
With its good synergy with a few talents
manic bluff
i think my current melee build is essail ep
verbal thistle
You made me think of a new build idea
Illisi force sword with EP BB to make up for its lack of single target
manic bluff
glad to help ^^
i am currently doing psyker penances so i am looking for easy ways xD
verbal thistle
Good luck, have fun
manic bluff
ty
cosmic sigil
Also, I just imagined a fun world where kinetic flayer actually interacts with e...
I stopped using assail on my melee build and I do not miss it. KF + db shotgun is tons of fun
still spindle
I stopped using assail on my melee build and I do not miss it. KF + db shotgun i...
For sure! I've been running KF + Greatsword + Laspistol and it's great
How do you have the shotgun built? I generally prefer my laspistol for the longer range but I do like my unga bunga shotgun ape builds
cosmic sigil
I use kf + fgs + shredder/laspistol... But more shredder atm, laspistol is a bit unhinged.
For db I use man stopper + fléchette / or the crit blessing with a deimos and perilous combustion
Basically you point in one direction, you shout, you proce KF, you start stacking sb and you pump them with uncanny and slaughterer
The spread is so large that you can just counter snipe snipers... I have done that at the end of consignment yard without even aiming
I don't use pc with the fgs tho. I need the peril cleave talent
still spindle
I mean that's very similar to what I run myself 
I swap Quietude, Perilous Combustion, and Malefic Momentum for Immaterial Focus, Just a Dream, and Emphatic Evasion
Does Malefic Momentum work with the FGS's cleave?
cosmic sigil
It's a warp attack so it should
still spindle
I never actually considered it
Not sure I would want it, the uncharged cleave is for stuns not damage, and the fully charged one is usually the last thing I do
cosmic sigil
I like quietude because with gaze it's a constant stream of tg but maybe I should put that point elsewhere
still spindle
It's a great perk! I just feel it's kinda redundant
cosmic sigil
Kf proces mm too
still spindle
Warp Expenditure, Mettle, Sciers, and DD are already giving toughness regen (with warp expenditure having instant toughness, which is really nice)
I have my hud configered to have a bar for toughness that's blue when full and red when anything but full so I know when I can get hit in melee without health loss
And from just those 4 it's usually just fine
cosmic sigil
Yeah quietude is probably overkill tbh
As long as you kill
But you can use it in between fights. And it's nice to have in gas.
still spindle
I mean if you're not killing you have sciers, and if that isn't enough I'm not sure quietude would help
Fair
I refuse to play without Emphatic Evasion (Yes, it is a skissue), just a dream is just always nice to have, and Immaterial Focus's stun immunity is fucking clutch
cosmic sigil
I should probably not take it and try another talent.
Yeah immaterial focus is probably what I would take
I dropped EE
still spindle
When blocking turns into peril, being at crit peril is usually a sign that now would be a really bad time to get stunned
And damage resist will never not be nice
cosmic sigil
Yeah, I'll drop quietude.
still spindle
Oh and I take warp speed instead of warp unbound because I'm a speed addict who cannot run slower than 10m/s
-# Warp unbound is absolutely the correct choice, I just love my speed
cosmic sigil
There's an argument for that with the fgs but I'd rather take anticipation
still spindle
I wish I had the extra point for anticipation on my build, but honestly I'm not sure what to drop and I've gotten used to it
This is what I'm kicking around with
cosmic sigil
Well i actually I just realized something
With deimos and and kf I don't need warp unbound
still spindle
I will warn you it takes some getting used to
A number of deaths have occured from forgetting about warp unbound no longer being there
cosmic sigil
Well, I don't use special and brain rupture actively
still spindle
Being able to force push after sciers or warp slash is nice
cosmic sigil
So the only moment I risk exploding is by blocking at high peril
Yeah but that's with the fgs
cosmic sigil
So with the fgs, ok totally valid to take it
But with the deimos I can sometimes keep 100% uptime on gaze..
And so I can put that point in warp speed now hin hin
still spindle
-# I say while running FGS without warp unbound
cosmic sigil
I have another build to test. I drop pc and uncanny and go slaughterer superiority
cosmic sigil
I use KD
dull scroll
don't worry about it that thing doesn't blow you up
cosmic sigil
Yeah, with that build i totally do not need unbound
thorn cedar
no
zealous wing
Does Malefic Momentum work with the FGS's cleave?
yes, if it kills
vague musk
is there anything worse then a full team of psykers
sage pulsar
wym worse? That's a fucking great time
zealous wing
is there anything worse then a full team of psykers
a full team of inferno psykers
zealous wing
nah a full team of smykers would somehow have fun staring at things frozen in place for 2 hours
vague musk
wym worse? That's a fucking great time
everyone dies so fast and half the time it takes ages to kill a single crusher
(in my opinon)
crisp ether
That's a player/build problem
zealous wing
psyker is fuckin GREAT at killing crusher
crisp ether
Meleeker fucking nukes crushers.
vague musk
yeah but you need someone built for it on the team lol
zealous wing
what did you get stuck with
vague musk
Im a weird hybrid with smiker and melee, one person was flame, and another person was lightning staff
zealous wing
ah
vague musk
and there was one vet bot
zealous wing
EK doesnt have terrible TTK on crushers
not great
but inferno can fuckin SHRED armour blobs
smite, well
it exists
sadly
FGS wrecks crushers
vague musk
smite is just really nice for the crusher waves I keep getting
zealous wing
its a good reposition tool
usually though, people spam it the entire match and think they're helping
vague musk
plus being able to hold off maulers while the rest of the team focuses a boss is nice
zealous wing
flashbacks to the smyker who was smiting the boss, and didnt even have enfeeble
bro HAD weapons, but decided nah the 15dmg per tick was good
sharp shoal
Lol
vague musk
flashbacks to the smyker who was smiting the boss, and didnt even have enfeeble ...
is enfeeble even worth it over a power sword?
zealous wing
lol
vague musk
for a single boss at least
zealous wing
no its a joke about smykers
they just, use smite, and pretty much only smite, thats what smykers mean
if they have it, its being used
40k damage in an auric HISTG is impressive, but not in the way they think
but, usually they have enfeeble for the "support" role they think they're filling
this one didnt, and still thought smiting the boss would work? i guess?
vague musk
wait someone somehow only got 40k damage with smite??
zealous wing
i mean, when you have a couple competent players, things dont live long anyway
vague musk
I think ive got up to like 700k in auric lol
zealous wing
i cant recall if i was on meleeker or blazing trauma
vague musk
I would like to do havoc but dont like the party system
sage pulsar
as one of my favourite psyker lines tells me to do
kill!... kill kill KILL KILL KILL kill kill
zealous wing
they also did die, a lot
vague musk
havoc quickplay when
vague musk
they also did die, a lot
couldn't be me
the lone pox walker that spawned in 3ft behind me:
zealous wing
the truest words
if i go on malice, i HAVE to be on a crackhead build now or i just, cant function
vague musk
should I take 20% ogryn damage or 10% damage resist
zealous wing
that single stalker will throw me off and still stab me, somehow
deft stump
couldn't be me
*the lone pox walker that spawned in 3ft behind me:*
Somehow 4 hp left?
vague musk
I wonder if I could somehow make a dumb thing where its just about keeping peril as much as I can
zealous wing
i just need to figure out if i want to keep using knife on my fidget build 
vague musk
I wonder if I could somehow make a dumb thing where its just about keeping peril...
ER + WG :3
zealous wing
i am having fun with knife+assail, but knife is only good boss DPS on burgles
deft stump
that single stalker will throw me off and still stab me, somehow
You mean, slowly thrust their guns into you for 90% of your hp
zealous wing
I wonder if I could somehow make a dumb thing where its just about keeping peril...
you mean, like, normal psyker gameplay?
vague musk
you mean, like, normal psyker gameplay?
you keep your peril high?
zealous wing
You mean, slowly thrust their guns into you for 90% of your hp
stab me with their bayonet, yes
zealous wing
you keep your peril high?
.... yes?
thats a key part of psyker
high peril, high damage
vague musk
I might just still be scarred from when I was a young psyker
zealous wing
my FGS gives me over 50 peril per stroke
vague musk
even though I literally cant overload
zealous wing
edge, do it, you can
deft stump
I might just still be scarred from when I was a young psyker
Just 60-80%.
You can't mess it up.
Slowly go higher.
vague musk
I just usually like it low for if I need to smite a hoard or something
although I do guess I got an garenteed 10s of smite
deft stump
Smite. 
zealous wing
psyker weak pls buff
vague musk
psyker weak pls buff
takes 1000x as long as a zealot smh
(with a hammer, full momentum, and stealth)
zealous wing
takes 1000x as long as a zealot smh
vague musk
psyker is just squishy
vague musk
ye thats what I ment
I havent done zealot in a while
also I still hold firm that arb is just short orgyn
vague musk
arb is really good at clutches
zealous wing
plus higher damage output
zealous wing
arb is really good at clutches
its a lower skill floor for it, yeah
arby can just ignore things that should have killed them
ie, the game flat out trying to kill them because they're going where they shouldn't
but psyker also gets away with a LOT of bullshit
just gotta know how things work
blazing trauma is definitely my favourite staff build
sage pulsar
I like inferno slightly more but only cause I'm lazy and like the flamethrower
zealous wing
i liked it for a while, then i learned how to aim VB
its over
though rending trauma on my fidget build has also proven useful enough, i wish i could make it blazing without sacrificing the ability to go full trauma psyker if needed
just too many point sacrifices i'd have to make to grab PC and wildfire
sage pulsar
Rip
young zinc
So for warp ghost, does the +25% toughness replenishment apply to all ways to regain toughness or only coherency regen?
verbal thistle
every toughness source but coherency
young zinc
ah neat
verbal thistle
sinful olive
guess you can't run anything in havoc that isn't bubble because people just assu...
Sorry to reply to a message from hours ago but good god trying to go for true survivor with randoms basically requires this. I feel shriek is better in nearly all situations but I do not trust any of these people
tardy pumice
buff psyker
unreal yew
Sorry to reply to a message from hours ago but good god trying to go for true su...
It's like you have to always use bubble to babysit people or they will always die if you run anything else
still spindle
Depends on the direction you would wanna go
Generally murder is a fairly effective form of crowd control, so something like Inferno or electro staves would be a good start
If you were thinking more classic CC, Smite is probably the go to, but you just need to be careful to remember that smite is a tool, not a weapon
Melee with FGS or Illisi would be your melee crowd clearers
dire edge
Oh ok appreciate it
sinful olive
Anyone have any good Psyker builds for crowd control?
Trauma staff builds for CC, check the psyker build list in the pins for good suggestions. The one with warp flurry will allow you to knock crushers over ad infinitum and strip armor. Bubble knight/melee psyker builds fuck bosses up hard.
sharp island
So fellas im trying to expand my horizons from just vet bc I really love that class but i dont enjoy psyker any tips
verbal thistle
grab melee weapon and kill
sharp island
Oh wow ill just play vet
wind spruce
So fellas im trying to expand my horizons from just vet bc I really love that cl...
Why do you think you arent enjoying it?
dire edge
Trauma staff builds for CC, check the psyker build list in the pins for good sug...
I will look into that
wind spruce
Dying often? Not doing enough damage? Dont like the staffs?
cold ivy
levelling as psyker can be a pain in the ass because non-maxed staves feel kinda rough to use
if your fundamentals are already solid you can just crutch on assail to carry you through auric and below because it kills everything except carapace, then after you hit lv30 you can get some good staves and use them
sharp island
Dying often? Not doing enough damage? Dont like the staffs?
kinda all of that but the dying i know is a skill issue
zealous wing
Or boss killer?
verbal thistle
@spice aurora
spice aurora
lmfao
still spindle
God losing is so much more fun when you got a good group of people
Me and some randoms kept getting out asses handed to us by getting like 4 bosses at once (only havoc like 17 btw) and their not leaving and being willing to joke about it made it still a fun bunch of rounds!
rich spindle
I’ve never lost a game in my life
zealous wing
Me and some randoms kept getting out asses handed to us by getting like 4 bosses...
honestly yeah
its so much less frustrating than constantly needing to fill the slot with someone else who also refuses to even figure out what went wrong, and how to try again
and, humour about it helps tremendously with it
plucky flax
I’ve never lost a game in my life
Same karien always carry
ripe obsidian
I’ve never lost a game in my life
Not ever.
ripe obsidian
Me and some randoms kept getting out asses handed to us by getting like 4 bosses...
Fun is more important than difficulty level.
deft stump
Same karien always carry
I don't carry, you all do.
deft stump
its so much less frustrating than constantly needing to fill the slot with someo...
But all I do is panic or panic harder.
ripe obsidian
Panikarien
rich spindle
Zealot chat needs to be euthanized
crisp ether
its so much less frustrating than constantly needing to fill the slot with someo...
tbf its also annoying when it's someone picking as many straws as they can to excuse and rationalize how something went wrong when it simply is that the game will just kick you in the balls sometimes
And blaming stuff uselessly.
spice aurora
i just won my 90000000000th h40 game in a row
spice aurora
lmao
spice aurora
calculated
i wanna try the suicide whatever crystalline will, any1 tried it yet in havoc can it kill anything
spice aurora
my favorite bible verse
deft stump
tbf its also annoying when it's someone picking as many straws as they can to ex...
Because a congaline of silent trappers from behind is fair and balanced.
spice aurora
@verbal thistle i dint know u could dodge like this ngl
prolly dont matter cuz u can just jump the window but it looks cool ngl
zealous wing
i wanna try the suicide whatever crystalline will, any1 tried it yet in havoc ca...
best i can offer is auric, it works there, hit a rager there with 2 or 3 assail and its killable there as well, so if youre fine chipping them with a bit of damage first its workable
shotgunners in auric get oneshot
havent tested it further
spice aurora
i havent played non havoc in like a year ngl xD
zealous wing
i only do h40s with friends, and dont tend to meme there
i just, dont enjoy havoc much
crisp ether
Because a congaline of silent trappers from behind is fair and balanced.
I'm talking specifically towards teammates.
Not the game.
spice aurora
where is this shooter going
deft stump
I'm talking specifically towards teammates.
The game just wants to fuck you all over bit though.
tropic bobcat
So uh... Warp Ghost
am I reading this right, that it lowers passive Quell by 80%?
this isn't some weird "-80% is actually good because of math" situation?
verbal thistle
its passive quelling decrease, so its easier to stay higher
favors non staff focus builds
tropic bobcat
Gods. I have no clue how to properly Psyker.
deft stump
this isn't some weird "-80% is actually good because of math" situation?
It's a meleeker thing.
tropic bobcat
i see
so if I wanted to Ticklefingers most effectively
is there a preferred setup?
to accompany that?
tropic bobcat
LIke... Have it up and effective when we get those massive hordes and trappers are hiding in them
verbal thistle
there might be a smite build in the guide
but I personally don't recommend smite to anyone
but play what you find fun
verbal thistle
if you are using it to horde clear there is an issue
tropic bobcat
not clear
verbal thistle
but to stagger a armor horde to reposition is a whole other thing
tropic bobcat
just disrupt
I don't expect it to kill
I just want to nullify all the ragers and dogs and trappers
trappers can go kick sand
i want to train my Dog to pull nets off me
uncut heron
do you potentially have the build for this? I need to do that assail penance
zealous wing
do you potentially have the build for this? I need to do that assail penance
ye give me a moment
i have two versions of it, one more serious and one more for the memes
zealous wing
kk
alternatively, swap keystones for slightly more usable (last image), though both function decently in auric, depends on skill but its crazy fun
i call it my fidget build
the rending trauma is mainly the "oh shit" stick, for carapace, armour, and a bit too much of a horde/out of assail for the horde, or shooting in a straight line, knife is mainly mobility but light spam on a horde with assail weaving also works nicely
the two modes
uncut heron
thank you
tropic bobcat
alternatively, swap keystones for slightly more usable (last image), though both...
hm. ty
i'ma have to study this haha
zealous wing
if you have questions lmk
zealous wing
Whilst you out partying i was busy studying the blade
me, vs dom and barrels
not in that order
more like, dom, then me and barrels
i can thonk real good i promise
deft stump
me, vs dom and barrels
So who won the Barrelmancy war?
deft stump
Oh.
zealous wing
its rare to see dom on anymore so i dont get many chances, and thusly neither does he
deft stump
its rare to see dom on anymore so i dont get many chances, and thusly neither do...
Oh well.
Guess they didn't read his thing?
zealous wing
no reply at least
hoary mauve
the two modes <:kek:972403647973576724>
What mod are you using for your buff stacks, the one next to your peril gauge?
wind spruce
What mod are you using for your buff stacks, the one next to your peril gauge?
Looks like Better Buff Management
sage pulsar
yea, Better Buff Management alongside Custom Hud to reposition the bar
rose shoal
My psyker, Larz, has a hotkey now
whenever he is forced into melee with more than 4, or with an elite, I press it...
'HELP! HELP! I’M STABBING!
I’M NOT SUPPOSED TO BE STABBING!'
radiant frigate
is that eepy assail?
hoary mauve
Looks like Better Buff Management
thanks!
hoary mauve
yea, Better Buff Management alongside Custom Hud to reposition the bar
oo okay, thanks! I didn't know about Custom HUD, will look into it
feral verge
My psyker, Larz, has a hotkey now
whenever he is forced into melee with more tha...
afraid of melee combat in the melee combat game?
wraith sphinx
can't wait for a new "psykers are bad at melee" reddit post a few weeks from now
lucid oriole
I just reset my talent tree but for some reason it’s giving me my old skills from my old talent tree how do I fix it
summer prairie
Make sure your tree is valid. You can make invalid trees now but it won't save.
rich spindle
every tree is valid ❤️
zealous wing
is that eepy assail?
ye
uneven trout
does Penetration of the soul buff smite damage?
deft stump
does Penetration of the soul buff smite damage?
What's the point though? You want to do +1 damage to crushers and basically everything else?
uneven trout
oh it only does a little bit more?
first time leveling psyker so idk how the upgrades interact
deft stump
oh it only does a little bit more?
Smite does basically no damage outside of chaff on low diffs.
PotS is a junk underpowered node as well.
uneven trout
would smite be viable to put into high havoc?
deft stump
If it's 10% rending above 75% peril.
uneven trout
think its 20% at max
marble crater
would smite be viable to put into high havoc?
No
deft stump
would smite be viable to put into high havoc?
No. You are just gonna be lulled and then get stagger/stun immune stuff and be completely useless and worthless.
uneven trout
im using the builds from this cause ive never played psyker before
deft stump
Mostly because those ACTUALLY damage ontop of their CC.
uneven trout
got it ill keep that in mind
marble crater
im using the builds from this cause ive never played psyker before
There are also a lot of up to date builds in the pins here, including one for leveling as psyker (because it's a pain)
deft stump
Assail is your best friend.
zealous wing
and assail will never leave you
uneven trout
the google doc file is the right one right
zealous wing
ye
deft stump
It's great on like uprising and malice, decent still after.
uneven trout
okay ill check it out thanks
zealous wing
assail is fuckin great everywhere
uneven trout
which one is the one where im throwing crystals
zealous wing
assail
deft stump
assail is fuckin great everywhere
Damage wise, does fall off, but still staggers and helps with peril juggling.
zealous wing
and still kills
in h40 it hurts a little more, but auric and below its just fine
if it didnt, it wouldnt be run
this clip was empowered psionics yes, but still in auric
uneven trout
assail is just throwing rocks like playing cards lmao
zealous wing
they also follow your crosshair, even after you switch weapons, so you can get real technical with it
and, fidgety
deft stump
and still kills
Was more, went from wholesale slaughter to shearing off the edge, if you get what I mean?
rigid sky
DDSG Assail is still nuts
uneven trout
which mod makes it so my status effects are right under my crosshair
elfin dirge
Is the lightning hands ability good at both elites and chaff like a middle ground ability, or is it solely good at chaff?
rigid sky
Is the lightning hands ability good at both elites and chaff like a middle groun...
It's bad at killing in general, it's a CC tool mostly
elfin dirge
Damn. I was really looking forward to a palpatine build
I take it there’s no psychic ability that’s mediocre at elites and crowds
verbal thistle
I mean, try it out see if you find it fun
elfin dirge
Well I’m still just a level 1 psyker, just inquiring
Dipping my toe in all the classes as it were
still spindle
Electrostaves are what you're looking for if you wanna play like palps
And they're the killing version of smite
Quite good! Lots of people run them
still spindle
which mod makes it so my status effects are right under my crosshair
Better buff management + Custom Hud
uneven trout
thanks
rigid sky
You can use smite as a set-up for a venting shriek at least
And EP smite... Exists
I mean maybe use it a few games just for fun lol
But the best zappy boi is lone wolf Arbitrator with special cattle prod and shock mines
elfin dirge
Man
How the fuck are you not perilling
Also dipping my toe in the other classes just makes me wanna play more vet I’ll be honest
I miss me lasgun volley
marble crater
How the fuck are you not perilling
Scrier’s Gaze
zealous wing
Also dipping my toe in the other classes just makes me wanna play more vet I’ll ...
this is fair. playing other classes makes me miss psyker
is fun tho
elfin dirge
Recon Lasgun?
No no no I’m referring to volleying with veterans adrenaline rush ability
The focus fire one
wooden sand
I see
rapid birch
How're you charging up your m2 so fast? is it that one staff blessing?
radiant frigate
sg flurry blaze trauma does sound kind of funky
zealous wing
rending trauma, so, rending shockwave and warp flurry
the fire is from the other psyker who died
radiant frigate
no no no that blessing setup makes too much sense
we need anti-synergy
we need to make it more scuffed
warp flurry blaze trauma with true aim
with empyric shock and channeled force
rose shoal
afraid of melee combat in the melee combat game?
sigh roleplay guys, roleplay
zealous wing
i want it to make sense because i want to run it in aurics effectively lol
radiant frigate
*sigh* roleplay guys, roleplay
i still feel like that would get old by the third time
zealous wing
by the second
first time is already annoying
2nd is, ok they've got problems
heaven forbid a 3rd, they're getting voted
s, be a 
rose shoal
i still feel like that would get old by the third time
indeed, I usually only use it once a mission
but still
radiant frigate
indeed, I usually only use it once a mission
but still
"whenever" and "once a mission" sounds Not The Same
rose shoal
yes, I wait until I hit that point to use it
Pardon me for poor wording
radiant frigate
i find your terms more agreeable upon clarification
stable ether
In terms of Gunkyr are most of the weapon stat allocations the same sort of thing that Vet would use? Blessings and Perk wise?
manic bluff
does anybody here have a build for the brainbrust penances? they are a drag and a pain :/
deft stump
In terms of Gunkyr are most of the weapon stat allocations the same sort of thin...
Yeah.
You get to skip ghost though unless you fucked up and didn't take EE.
unkempt panther
Is the lightning hands ability good at both elites and chaff like a middle groun...
Electric hands aka smite, by itself aka without empowered psionics keystone, is sometimes (rarely) useful as an emergency CC. It does very poor damage.
With empowered psionics, it does moderate damage, enough that you can clear the horde, but there are probably quicker ways to clear the horde.
Many / most teammates will hate you for running smite especially if you frequently use RMB to stun the whole screen because 1- it will slow down the run compared to other builds, and 2- it makes the game too easy in some ways. Most people dont just want to slap a stunned mob like they’re in the psykanium.
Also, relying on RMB smite to stun (and slowly kill) thr whole screen will make you a bad player. You won’t learn to block, dodge, slide, etc, aka engage with the core mechanics of the game, so on any other builds, you’ll be at a great disadvantage because you haven’t learned the game.
deft stump
Electric hands aka smite, by itself aka without empowered psionics keystone, is ...
Honestly, ppl mostly hate them cos they are useless and need babysitting or downed sound effect constantly.
unkempt panther
Honestly, ppl mostly hate them cos they are useless and need babysitting or down...
Was trying to be gentle, lol
deft stump
Was trying to be gentle, lol
I'm just being blunt.
radiant frigate
inferno my beloathed
radiant frigate
not issues perhaps
i am simply not a fan of inferno
i think the niche it fills is unnecessary
hazy locust
When you say niche..?
unkempt panther
role?
I do agree that "kill everything with infinite cleave" is a role that probably should have very few or zero things in it.
radiant frigate
I do agree that "kill everything with infinite cleave" is a role that probably s...
i'm more talking about "kills irrelevant trash at short range and nothing else" but uncanny throws a wrench into that
rigid sky
Ragers are irrelevant trash?
rigid sky
Because inferno chews them up in the same gulp as the trash
hazy locust
And with Max burn I just need a tick on a dog or trapper and they run back into the walls and die
rigid sky
Plus the ranged stagger potential on LMB which is now finally a safe option vs poxbursters again, after the flayer buffs
unkempt panther
I honestly don't know what I would do with inferno staff if I was in charge, I'd probably first listen to a bunch of havoc 40 players, as well as players stuck in damnation, for their opinions, as well as look at gameplay.
hazy locust
The stagger alone
radiant frigate
I honestly don't know what I would do with inferno staff if I was in charge, I'd...
i would leave it as is
i do not consider it a problem
i just think it overlaps heavily with melee and don't like that
rigid sky
i just think it overlaps heavily with melee and don't like that
Try it without a greatsword lmao
radiant frigate
Try it without a greatsword lmao
even before fgs, illisi
rigid sky
It pairs so well with Obscurus or whatever single target killer you favour
Yeah, again, Illisi isn't a pair for it
hazy locust
I love it with ilisi deflector
rigid sky
In those cases it's redundant
hazy locust
:)
rigid sky
Why though, Illisi is also a horde killer
radiant frigate
yeah why
rigid sky
The other two force swords actually kill Crushers and other large dudes
radiant frigate
illisi fell off
hazy locust
The other two force swords actually kill Crushers and other large dudes
That’s what bb is for?
rigid sky
Imo it's straight up better than Deimos
radiant frigate
That’s what bb is for?
then what is illisi for in that setup
rigid sky
That’s what bb is for?
If you wanna do it the super slow way sure
hazy locust
then what is illisi for in that setup
To make snipers and shotgunners redundant
rigid sky
BB is anti ranged elite and anti special mostly
hazy locust
If you wanna do it the super slow way sure
That depends on build imo
radiant frigate
if your build's only answer to crushers is bb
rigid sky
Ok you can do EP and KR shenanigans true
radiant frigate
it's probably not good
rigid sky
But idk going inferno without warp charges feels wrong
In fire reborn is totally free for you
But idk I take EP brain rupture with soulblaze voidblast
hazy locust
if your build's only answer to crushers is bb
Normally knock them out back to back before my team kills one. .-.
radiant frigate
Normally knock them out back to back before my team kills one. .-.
that says more about your team than anything else
rigid sky
EP does make it work on Crushers, my inferno build has The Saddest Slow Brain Rupture so it's a poor option for me lmao
radiant frigate
EP does make it work on Crushers, my inferno build has The Saddest Slow Brain Ru...
it do be a little agonizing to use
rigid sky
But idk Obscurus just eats them alive
It's actually pleasant
Eats mutants and ragers roo
Too
Ruh roh
prisma nova
I honestly prefer the duelling sword - mainly due to speed. and it eats crushers and maulers.
hazy locust
I honestly prefer the duelling sword - mainly due to speed. and it eats crushers...
Was my go to for a long time
rigid sky
I honestly prefer the duelling sword - mainly due to speed. and it eats crushers...
I like Unstable power for a caster build
radiant frigate
shoutout to penances for making you use the super slow headsplosion
rigid sky
And the push with force sword is so good
But DS4 is probably the best still yeah
Goes without saying for single target lmao
prisma nova
And the push with force sword is so good
I mainly play havoc and final toll is a thing :/ the parry still lets me survive overhead chains when i run out of dodges.
hazy locust
that says more about your team than anything else
Crazily that is the one thing that always ends up killing me
Team mates. :D
radiant frigate
barrel-based pvp?
hazy locust
Leeroying intro a room of ragers or something and then kiting them into me while I’m killing something else
hazy locust
It’s like you’re cleaning the house and you hear your kid tipping over the Lego bin on the floor
unkempt panther
But people like empowered psionics? Weird. I always feel better / stronger with warp siphon.
radiant frigate
But people like empowered psionics? Weird. I always feel better / stronger with ...
i do not
since the entire keystone only affects blitzes
thorn cedar
I enjoy it but it's hard to shake off the reality that the entire rest of my kit is nerfed.
radiant frigate
understandable
unkempt panther
Even when I spam assail, I feel like I do that better on warp siphon.
although BB EP spam on crushers is oddly enticing, but that’s probably not worth the investment, and I wonder if you can even one shot them to make it remotely worth it.
unkempt panther
Even when I spam assail, I feel like I do that better on warp siphon.
Or disrupt destiny, obvi.
zealous wing
But people like empowered psionics? Weird. I always feel better / stronger with ...
its not the best keystone, but its really fun for specific meme builds
unkempt panther
its not the best keystone, but its really fun for specific meme builds
that's what i figured
I guess I wish EP was a little stronger for assail, is all, dunno. Personal wish. Not very important in terms of pressing issues in the game. I suspect EP for BB should be a little better too, but I have a lot less experience with that.
Whenever I try to make a simple malefic momentum (sp) build for melee + assail, it just never feels good with EP, IMHO. Always feels better with disrupt destiny or warp siphon.