psyker-class

[rich spindle]

Laspistol is also good at that role. But the real secret special deleter is the electro staff

Better than plasma

[lament topaz]

my build is set up to bb like 6 times in 30 seconds

even more if i keep hitting elites

but i want something for when i cant quite scrier's yet

yknow?

[rich spindle]

No what do u mean

[lament topaz]

i want a gun that is good at killing specials/elites while my scrier is on cd

[deft stump]

Oh, fast mark laspistol.

[still spindle]

The ogryns already ate all their crayons. They're currently trying to find more. The vets are working very hard to protect their infinite krak grenade stockpile

[deft stump]

Spam into boss hed for funni.

[lament topaz]

kantrael?

[deft stump]

Dunno, just the lower damage one.

No recoil.

[lament topaz]

and just aim for the head?

[deft stump]

Yep.

[rich spindle]

Yeah and then click to fire

[deft stump]

That thing loves finesse.

[lament topaz]

anything i need to put on the pistol or no

[deft stump]

You'll see.

[rich spindle]

Infernus

[still spindle]

I put dumdum and infernus on mine

[lament topaz]

forgot abt that

[deft stump]

Infernus and whatever you deem you like.

Just don't put ghost... unless you vet.

[lament topaz]

its got ghost on it already

but i dont have blessings so its stuck for a bit

[still spindle]

Or made the (incorrect) decision to not grab the "I don't wanna get shot ever" perk on psyker

[lament topaz]

which one

[deft stump]

Oh yeah...

[deft stump]

Empathic Evasion.

[lament topaz]

ah

no i went with high peril dmg and also melee getting rid of peril

[deft stump]

Is the big bro version of ghost.

[still spindle]

I have yet to run a psyker build without it

It's just so good

[lament topaz]

i dont doubt it

[deft stump]

Ppl say hard assail build don't need it.

[lament topaz]

ill be real i usually just scrier into like 3 bbs and then go to town on a hoard

[deft stump]

I Eula stare them.

[still spindle]

Truth be told I've never run a super hard assail build. Usually it's just to build some peril on my melee builds when I'm not running kinetic flayer + Warp Ghosts

[deft stump]

It works imo, but then again, that build is more for newbies up to heresy really.

[zealous wing]

its fun, not super duper great, but really fun

[still spindle]

I mean that's a fair enough reason to run it as any

I quite enjoy running smite occasionally even though I am certain it's garbage

[zealous wing]

it's definitely my "i need everything all at once" build

[still spindle]

What mod are you running for the pounce popup? My deaf ass needs that

[zealous wing]

spidey sense, needs setup though

[deft stump]

That would just induce reeeeeeeeeeee

[still spindle]

-# I refuse to turn down the doom music/Omnissiah warchant

[deft stump]

Just give yourself 'PTSD' to them. I hear trappers even when no one else does.

[still spindle]

I haven't gotten that cooked yet, lol

But I'll work on it!

[deft stump]

You will once you kill 3 of them at the same time in a row slacking malice.

Shit wakes you up.

Hell, they can do that in uprising now even.

Goddess knows what FS did to special spawn rates.

[still spindle]

Got it, torture myself with endless streams of trappers, dogs, and muties

[clear veldt]

Perks of being able to reach into the Warp 😉

[clear veldt]

Don’t forget bursters

[still spindle]

I already have burster PTSD

[clear veldt]

Just a skill issue on my end then

[still spindle]

one of the reasons I love me forceswords, best push because I am stupid and will notice them moments before they turn my insides into outsides

[deft stump]

I'm TOTALLY A COMMISSAR Vet.

[ripe obsidian]

Back in my day, force sword push attacks with KF would pop bursters!

[still spindle]

-# oh my god I hate it

[clear veldt]

Ok Sparkhead

[ripe obsidian]

It does 1 damage. Was only a few months ago they exempted bursters.

[deft stump]

Oh yeah, thanks for reminding me, I need to tell Licht my vet can do psyker things to uhhh... yuri a zealot if it comes to that.

[deft stump]

That's just playing mortis trials for a week.

[still spindle]

I'm glad I've come back to the game when I did, seems I dodged quite a bit of utter bullshit

Honestly haven't touched mortis trials yet, guess I've got a good reason to now!

[ripe obsidian]

Mortis Trials are not terribly interesting imo

And a lot of the buffs you get are pretty mediocre

[deft stump]

Not as fun on psyker tbh, only meleeker with Emperor's favoured is really fun cos everything feels half assed for staffkers. Maybe if you take burn on inferno and get lucky with ranged attacks burn.

Solo'd malice doing that cos I got it.

Just had to slowly burn down all the bosses.

[ripe obsidian]

The most broken boon is Fire and Blood or whatever it's called

[deft stump]

For melee builds, yeah.

[ripe obsidian]

+5 stacks of fire and of bleed on a melee attack, and it stacks separately from regular burn and bleed

I got it on like wave 10 once and ended up with summat like 500k burn damage by the end of wave 12

It's dumb

[clear veldt]

Very important question

Would Psykers make for good electricians

[deft stump]

I know, I usually take it on more melee focused set ups.

[ripe obsidian]

My Beloved thinks so.

[still spindle]

Linemen yes, electricians no

They're good at handling extreme amounts of power that would kill people

[ripe obsidian]

My Beloved says you can do anything you set your mind to! Especially if your mind can change reality!

[still spindle]

But they'd also bring it into your house when the thermo-servitor goes on the fritz

[clear veldt]

The two can go hand in hand

I guess

The final list is here #general-chat message

[zealous wing]

when the auric pulls no punches

the number of specials was definitely felt

i almost want a breakdown of which specific ones we had the most of

felt like flamers/bombers

also felt like half of them were at end event, silo really IS a struggle when the group isnt on point, had two new-to-aurics with us, but, all things considered, there was a) visible panic, b) they were trying really hard

i hope they keep practicing and didnt get discouraged, there were a number of deaths, but they stuck with it to the end, so, props to them for hangin on

[ripe obsidian]

PowerDI can do that

I stopped running it due to performance hits, tho

[zealous wing]

i know, hence the "almost"

far too much going on in powerDI for me, but on rare occassions i want a lil bit more breakdown

very rare though

like, maybe one game every couple hundred

i know i could put disabler/dps specialist category back on, that helps narrow it down halfway

but, eh

[lament topaz]

i wish the fov mod just let me set a global ADS value instead of per weapon

[plucky flax]

No

[zealous wing]

voidstrike sits and cries in the corner most of the time

trauma is still good though

[zinc phoenix]

Voidstrike could be good with two simple changes:

• massive nerf to burgatus as a bullshit game destroying boredom stick
• buff to the charge time on the secondary

[crisp oriole]

Question, how do yall deal with crushers as inferno+shriek psyker?

[ruby bloom]

Anticipation

Like the perk

[ripe obsidian]

Shriek to stagger them, run away, or swap to melee

[crisp oriole]

I have carapace dmg mod on my staff, but that does almost nothing

[ripe obsidian]

Neither of those nodes help kill crushers.

[zinc phoenix]

Give them a taste of cold steel

Let the buggers feel the might of your poke

[ruby bloom]

I just use melee to deal with any armored enemy

[crisp oriole]

One of those perks make me laugh in the face of gunners

[ruby bloom]

Anticipation is really good once ur actually confident with dodging

[ripe obsidian]

I recommend not using Inferno as a tool for crushers. It has 10% carapace damage, so even with all the brittleness/rending you can get, you're going to cap out at like 50%, doing maybe 200-300 damage at 31 stacks per tick to a 6500+ HP enemy.

Unless you abuse uncanny.

[ruby bloom]

because you dont need evasion if you are playing correctly

[lament topaz]

i build emp charges then scrier and clear most of them

[crisp oriole]

I feel like my team silently hates me while I jump on 10 gunners and not get hit lol

[ruby bloom]

a lot of it is learning when to tank vs when not to tank because you have a loop of toughness you need to reach first

10 fold with flame staff because you need souldrinker to start up before you even think of pushing anything

[ripe obsidian]

The proper time to tank is honestly never. Taking damage, toughness or otherwise, is not ideal on Psyker. Goal is to avoid as much as possible.

[lament topaz]

i get most of my toughness from melee crits

[ruby bloom]

Scary

[lament topaz]

its done pretty well on heresy

[ruby bloom]

I run fuckass top tree

[ripe obsidian]

Now, there's a difference in knowing you can tank something. Even if you shouldn't.

[lament topaz]

but i honestly refuse to go higher than that without a full squad

[ripe obsidian]

this is hateful

[ruby bloom]

ur not wrong for that

[crisp oriole]

Insane

[ruby bloom]

I laugh in the face of people thinking you need wildfire before havoc

[ripe obsidian]

Perilous Combustion is the node you're thinking of, I think.

[lament topaz]

4 copies of DT in my steam family and im the only dumbass that plays the game

[ruby bloom]

i tried

[ripe obsidian]

And PC isn't needed, but it is amazing.

[ruby bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/kiwi-bird-attempt-animation-tried-gif-19660670

[ruby bloom]

id say specifically if you are dealing with any armor modifiers you need PC

just because its so fucking hard to ignite and get the DoT going on them

[ripe obsidian]

PC overstacks Soulblaze

That alone is worth picking

[ruby bloom]

That too but before armor you kill everything so fast plus you can crutch dueling

Its just not incredibly needed until havoc because its super overkill

[ripe obsidian]

PC is the chain reaction machine. Is absurdly good if you have another source of soulblaze

[ruby bloom]

Well i am using creeping anyways

[ripe obsidian]

I mean, you can run a gray inferno staff and no talents and still be fine before havoc, probably. I haven't tried and I don't really want to

[ruby bloom]

So i get my overstack from creeping + wildfire and keep it uptime w/warp siphon with IFR

[ruby bloom]

basically can confirm yes

[ripe obsidian]

Shriek has a minimum cooldown of ~8 seconds, which is longer than it takes for stacks to decay

[ruby bloom]

The kill wave is what matters

Idk im still able to do over 2m easily without having PC auric

[ripe obsidian]

How long are your aurics, jeez

[ruby bloom]

I am just doing everything somehow

[ripe obsidian]

My last Auric, I did like 1m damage

[lament topaz]

please fatshark can i have a cape that doesnt make me look homeless

[ruby bloom]

Idk the way I play is kinda down to a science of venting

Also tons of bosses recently

[ripe obsidian]

I mean

I did 1m damage and my team combined did 1.2m

your games must be really long to hit 2m damage

[lament topaz]

anyone else not able to unequip their titles?

[ruby bloom]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1142963263047475211/1468165416089288980/image.png?ex=698cea58&is=698b98d8&hm=3816754e3d248881afc695842f3836982c629565bce8da12d9f34525fc934359& https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1142963263047475211/1468163976272810100/image.png?ex=698ce901&is=698b9781&hm=0474f118a086740d13c1b5ac8a83f5e4f9effa4d57e19751befd8cc666b8f9ec& https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1142963263047475211/1467780423768604787/image.png?ex=698cd54b&is=698b83cb&hm=20a1049ffaa571aa4cb954e27e48fddb1a63af7d2723308c70dfda1b30b79791&

[ripe obsidian]

was this an event mission?

because if so, that's a lying scoreboard

[ruby bloom]

Bottom one is yeah

[ripe obsidian]

The event is bugged with damage reporting

[ruby bloom]

It was all DoT

[ripe obsidian]

www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNE_ll8RBtM

Example

[ruby bloom]

idk what was up with that match but it literally was like 40 hordes forever

[ripe obsidian]

why did that link not embed

what in tarnation

https://youtu.be/mNE_ll8RBtM?si=JyM7OxgTmGmVamO9

here we go

[ruby bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/wawa-emdeb-fail-failure-cat-gif-16703817715131368982

[ripe obsidian]

the event randomly jumps DoT damage tracking by intervals of like 130k

[ruby bloom]

Lol it didnt happen to that extreme I think I have like over 2k kills or something

but probably still got boosted like 300k

[verbal thistle]

@ripe obsidian do you have the % increase for PotS for purg

[ripe obsidian]

Against which enemy?

b/c against anything not a crusher, it'll cap at a 5% damage increase

[verbal thistle]

I remember you bringing out the adm % increases

[ripe obsidian]

yeah, one moment

Inferno LMB and RMB:
Unarmored - 200%
Flak - 175%
Unyielding - 200%
Maniac - 250%
Carapace - 25%
Infested - 150%
Void Shield - 100%

Soulblaze:
Unarmored - 150%
Flak - 150%
Unyielding - 150%
Maniac - 100%
Carapace - 10%
Infested - 125%
Void Shield - 100%

So it boosts the direct damage by 5% against non-crushers, and functionally by 80% against crushers. That is to say, if it's doing 25 damage, it now does 45 damage at 100% peril. Which is still not much

Soulblaze would go up by 200%. Which again, going from 10 damage per tick to 30 per tick is still bad.

At 100% peril

Assuming you're at 80%, it's less

[lament topaz]

drip or drown

[ruby bloom]

it scales from 0-97 right

so thats like 1% rending per 4.2ish% peril

[still spindle]

What sorta blessings are y'all putting on the regular force sword?

[ripe obsidian]

I should have that in my pinned guide. :D

[radiant frigate]

greetings siblings what is happening

[still spindle]

ooh, gotcha!

[lament topaz]

mental prep for pub damnation

[radiant frigate]

good luck

[ruby bloom]

AFAIK 97% peril and 100% peril are treated as the same "critical peril state" for most abilities and everything is capped out at "critical peril" so it floors it there

[ripe obsidian]

they are not

[radiant frigate]

what does this mean exactly

[ruby bloom]

ah yeah its only some

[radiant frigate]

97+ is considered critical but it's not the same as 100

small difference? yeah but a difference nonetheless

[ruby bloom]

Some talents do

[thorn cedar]

there isnt a real flag for that, but 97%+ is 'critical' for most things in the game

PotS really does only fully scale out when you're at 100% peril

[zealous wing]

warp rider as well

[radiant frigate]

would be drip if mk6

[ruby bloom]

makes sense

[zealous wing]

do you take wildfire?

[ruby bloom]

why the fuck does pots have the same threshold value as surety of arms

fatshark what could this even mean

like im scared

[nocturne dust]

Wildfire has a super low cap. Only Creeping Flames and PC can go above Inferno's limit of 15 (16 on a crit at 14 that decays to 15 because... Fatshark)

The global limit itself is high enough that there is no reason not to use both

[ruby bloom]

wildfire can still spread the extra stacks they get on death around, I just dont use it so I can use warp siphon for pre-havoc stuff

[nocturne dust]

Sure, Wildfire has a use and a place. It's not a bad node either.

but PC is way better

[ruby bloom]

its a deadweight pick because of not wanting the other nodes

but It still has its uses in small combo with venting

[zealous wing]

so you lack 2 major fire spreading nodes... on the fire staff.... in a fire build?

like, THEE 2 major firespread nodes

[nocturne dust]

PC is never a deadweight pick, it's one of the strongest nodes in the tree at higher difficulties, especially because it can start a chain reaction

[ruby bloom]

No wildfire is

since I literally cannot get to my middle node without it

[zealous wing]

how little are you killing elites and specials for pc to not matter, dear god

[nocturne dust]

Wildfire is nice, but not crazy strong or anything.

It being on the path doesn't mean it's a strong node

Otherwise auras are super crazy man, have you seen that % dmg on elite? Crazy

[zealous wing]

is working well for suipsyker

[nocturne dust]

Martyr Psyker isn't real, Martyr Psyker can't hurt me

[zealous wing]

i will hurt you

[ruby bloom]

Psyker 2.0

Smike crit staff only

2 duelling swords in the shape of 2s

[nocturne dust]

Anyway, PC isn't even a taxing node, most inferno builds generally path fully through it because the nodes around it also tend to suit inferno psyker (and staff psykers in general). Soulstealer and Quietude are both staff build nodes.

[ruby bloom]

my actuall full staff havoc looks more like this

[zealous wing]

someone ate your toughness regen

[nocturne dust]

Looks like a build.

[ruby bloom]

oops that true mettle died

[nocturne dust]

I don't like Empyric Shock but I guess if you spam LMB hard enough

[zealous wing]

soulstealer lol

inferno is a crit build

mettle good on inferno

mettle good in general

soulstealer +mettle makes your toughness go brr

[nocturne dust]

Did they ever fix the bug of mettle only working on the first hit of an RMB tho? I forget

[zealous wing]

i think so? doesnt matter tons with how little you charge it but id need to test when i wake up or ask a nerd

[nocturne dust]

Eeeehhh, kinda matters a ton

Even with min charge, most of your hits are secondary ones

[ruby bloom]

and then idk I havent gotten super high havoc yet but im always torn between anticipation

[zealous wing]

dont need antici on inferno

[nocturne dust]

I do love me my anticipation

[zealous wing]

love, sure, need, no

[nocturne dust]

but the dodges are so nice for staff repositioning

[ruby bloom]

and then i just run this because idk what good numbers are

[zealous wing]

not really imo

[nocturne dust]

Well, agree to disagree

[ruby bloom]

I will say the extra dodge is mega clutch because its 2 slide dodges

vs 1 and a normal dodge

[zealous wing]

eh

[ruby bloom]

which like yeah crunching down situations to a small blip but damn does it happen often enough that its saved me

[zealous wing]

dodgeslide switch to melee if you need more

[ruby bloom]

True

I like it mostly for mutants

anytime those guys are around id much rather have anticipation

[zealous wing]

just duck under their arm

id make some actually helpful clips or something but its 0430 and i am in bed lol

[ruby bloom]

x3

also just holding next to any corner fucks them

[zealous wing]

pretty much

i dont use antici, ever

[ruby bloom]

or its the 1 corner they can actually do a full 270* on

hourglass 🥀

[zealous wing]

hugging walls with your back helps, then they throw you without slamming

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/stairs-kungfu-panda-tired-xiao-po-stairway-gif-15140514

[ruby bloom]

psykers being looked at in public

[zealous wing]

i was supposed to sleep 6 hours ago, if you want examples of anything lmk, i can do stuff tomorrow, otherwise its just gonna be lots of words, little visual examples, and probably some misunderstanding or confusion if i try to talk further

[zealous wing]

but am willing to help get answers on whatever

[ruby bloom]

r8 the drip

[nocturne dust]

Looks like a psyker, 7/10, perfect score

[ruby bloom]

C's get degrees

[zealous wing]

yeah 6/10 or so from me

[ruby bloom]

its skull themed

until I get a better helm

[zealous wing]

damn i dont have any of my outfits on mobile

[ruby bloom]

Idk it was the only not set that has a cohesive thing for me rn

[deft stump]

Goddess knows our sleep schedules. I was supposed to nap like 5 hours back as well.

[hallow vector]

perilous focus fucking sucks

every single time i get close to 40 kills theres no more enemies

STOP EDGING MY PENANCE

[nocturne dust]

which one is perilous focus

[hallow vector]

get 40 kills in a single scrier gaze

its not that hard but theres never enough god damn enemies

[ruby bloom]

its lowkey real ez

[nocturne dust]

You can try holding quell between engagements

[patent jacinth]

beginning of mercantile

[hallow vector]

no i know how to do it

the issue is i keep running out of enemies like in total

too long to just keep quelling anyways

[nocturne dust]

If you don't have 40 enemies over the course of a match, I worry for you

[hallow vector]

ok but one gaze cant last that long

[ruby bloom]

you can spam quell and it will sometimes give you a boost that lets you keep quelling gaze

[zealous wing]

located a few pics

[nocturne dust]

You can literally quell the whole game

[hallow vector]

eventually the peril starts outpacing the quelling

[ruby bloom]

just spam R and itll fix it

[hallow vector]

i will try this tech

[ruby bloom]

spamming r > holding r

[hallow vector]

but it also gets so fast that if i ever stop quelling it just hits 100 in like 2 seconds

which makes it hard to do anything

[ruby bloom]

yeah but also like doesnt matter if ur using blaze or DoT

[nocturne dust]

If you hold quell, you will be fine. Maybe you need a peril resist node like empyric resolve.

[ruby bloom]

youll eventually tick

[nocturne dust]

or a better staff

[hallow vector]

i was using assail since its really easy for kills

[still spindle]

After getting my head done in by a silent crusher, I need to see an event where all the crushers are silent because they painted themselves purple

[nocturne dust]

I don't think that's true

[hallow vector]

silent crusher jumpscare

[ruby bloom]

at least in the case of holding high peril, hitting r twice forces it to be the next queue'd action

[nocturne dust]

All spamming R does is force you into the beginning animation more, which just eats time.

[ruby bloom]

you can literally animation cancel m1 casts n such so it realistically saves time by being able to just cancel animations back n fourth

[nocturne dust]

You cannot animation cancel quelling

You used to be able to

For various (imo dumb) reasons, Fatshark stopped it from happening.

[thorn cedar]

yea they gave quelling a small winddown

idk im fine with it

[nocturne dust]

So you're just slowing yourself down by spamming R instead of holding it. The quell ticks are faster when you hold it down.

[thorn cedar]

that left click spam was fucken annoying

[nocturne dust]

I'm fine with the reasoning, I'm not fine with the implementation

There were better ways to do it that less affected every build that wasn't lmb-spam

[ruby bloom]

ew they patched both out

even early canceling m1 doesnt work correctly anymore

[nocturne dust]

You might still be able to sprint cancel m1? Maybe also swap cancel. I haven't tried, I never liked the playstyle.

It wasn't even a super strong playstyle, psyker had access to better things at the time it was nerfed.

[ruby bloom]

you can dodge cancel it seems but thats about it

[ripe obsidian]

Hm. dnrvs updated a bunch of their mods this week, but installing them absolutely borked my game's performance

Like -20 FPS and ping going wild

[rich spindle]

what mods does that guy do

[crisp ether]

Ping too

Huh

Also, speaking of mods, can we put a potato peeler to the ankle of the individual that made the mod that posts everyone's damage in chat

That happened to me the other day and I felt very violated.

[deft stump]

You found one in the wild?

[crisp ether]

No bueno.

[crisp ether]

I did.

[deft stump]

Yeah, I hate those ppl.

[summer prairie]

All the updates did was add version numbers for upload automation purposes

[deft stump]

Wish they get banned for basically having a public shame meter that actually encourages toxicity by telling EVERYONE it.

Is one thing if you keep it private for yourself or sharing when asked.

Not when it gets announced into chat at the end of missions.

[crisp ether]

Me and someone else were even mentioning that was a bannable offense to them lol

That person also blew up so many fucking barrels on me with a rumbler so I was half tempted just to be petty but I let the intrusive thoughts lie

[deft stump]

But yeah, you only understand when you find one of those, also they play very selfishly to top the charts to ego stroke at the end for being the best.

[deft stump]

To be fair, they did it cos if others are dead, they do no damage.

Easier to pump their numbers up.

[crisp ether]

Oh and two poxbursters

[deft stump]

They either suck or doing it on purpose.

[ripe obsidian]

Reverting fixed it.

[deft stump]

Likely latter if they see someone scoring higher.

[ripe obsidian]

So I dunno

[ripe obsidian]

Healthbars, ping monitor, and other assorted QoL mods

[deft stump]

People who use such mods tend to want to chase green circles and will do anything including ruin the game for others to get it.

[crisp ether]

I don't want to insist they were being malicious

But I have never had to take a break from the game because my ears were straight up tender from the sheer amount of explosions that went off that game

[deft stump]

I would just report the clear breaking of rules by using a mod that affects others negatively.

[ripe obsidian]

I am very tired so I tried playing inferno + bubble into toll + corrupted stimms. It sucked.

My damage was the highest, but I felt like I was gently blowing on enemies

[deft stump]

It does so in a toxic manner to be more exact.

[ripe obsidian]

And I had zero recourse to deal with toll ragers running at me

[crisp ether]

It's extremely boring

[ripe obsidian]

It was.

I was like, "I is too tired, I play brainless build. Oh no, is too brainless."

The horde clear is also brutally slow without Shriek

0/10, do not recommend

[crisp ether]

That's kinda why I was saying it would really be nice to not see so much purge staff in red. And especially red + purple

Because you will eventually kill what you need to.

It's the speed in which you do it that uh

Kinda creates some really awkward situations.

[ripe obsidian]

I didn't even consider it until trying Bubble. Like, with Shriek I just kill the non-carapace red enemies. With bubble? I cry.

[crisp ether]

Yeah like shriek is fine because they will die fast

But with bubble. Ehhhhh...

[ripe obsidian]

I haven't used bubble in probably 2 months

I didn't remember

How painful it is

[deft stump]

Those red ragers are coming in REAL fast.

[ripe obsidian]

That's how I died each time. 6+ red ragers raging redly on my broken body

[deft stump]

And they totally wanna share their excrement coated axes with you.

[ripe obsidian]

Pls no

[crisp ether]

It's also annoying when you're actively trying to push to kill them

And you know you can one shot them

But the purge psyker is just whittling them down and making them red while you're engaged with them in melee so they just start tearing into you because they didn't die from the fire fast enough.

[deft stump]

But they red nao, you get hit in back, is just a fast overhead.

[crisp ether]

Its quite frustrating when I take a fight I know I can handle but someone else's intervention is actively making it worse for me.

[ripe obsidian]

I do solemnly swear not to play Shriekless Psyker into Toll maps again.

[crisp ether]

[ripe obsidian]

Another reason I did bubble is because the director has been ripping into me with gunner seeds, and I wanted a game without constantly being chipped

[crisp ether]

Gunner seeds have been so frequent lately

It's weird.

[ripe obsidian]

I feel like they change seed weight each time they change modifiers

"Lmao what if we did pus-hardened skin and encroaching garden and gunner seeds all at once?"

"Oh, make it dregs as well! So the players can't see what's shooting them through the tox gas!"

But seriously, 80 gunners with 50% ranged reduction and healing (and CC-immune healers) is just miserable

[crisp ether]

"Oh, you wanted to stagger that purple reaper? That's funny."

[deft stump]

So event but worse?

[thorn cedar]

If Psyker Ability.Dome = True, setseed to Maulers, else setseed to OopsAllReapers

[deft stump]

So horrible even on Arby?

[crisp ether]

I hate how anecdotal and yet true this is.

[crisp ether]

It's. It's bleak.

Like you can stagger purple but it requires way more to do it.

[deft stump]

I mean, I hated to new event.

It's literally just pushing havocs on pubs.

Just with stimm buffs that punishes you if you get too greedy.

[ripe obsidian]

Yeah. I'm really not enjoying the hyper tanky gunner spam

[crisp ether]

I'll be honest.

[ripe obsidian]

Only abilities with hard-coded forced stuns affect them.

[crisp ether]

Bring rotten armor back.

[ripe obsidian]

"grants enemies who have an aura an impact_modifier of -300% which makes them effectively impossible to stagger with regular attacks; can still be staggered by abilities that force stagger (Arbitrator's Break the Line, Remote Detonation, Hive Scum's Forge's Bellow, Ogryn's Loyal Protector, Veteran's Voice of Command, Zealot's Chorus of Spiritual Fortitude)"

[crisp ether]

And don't fucking put Garden with it.

Actually, just axe Garden.

It's clear Fatshark simply can't balance that modifier in a cohesive way.

[ripe obsidian]

Most of the havoc modifiers are honestly pretty ass.

[deft stump]

Ppl want hard.

[ripe obsidian]

They're some variation of enemies of more HP or you do less damage

[deft stump]

They get bs hard.

[ripe obsidian]

It's not even hard. It's sloggy and unpleasant

[deft stump]

Thus, bs hard.

[ripe obsidian]

The Bethesda school of game balance.

[crisp ether]

The only three modifiers I actually like

And by like, I mean tolerate mostly

Are pus, cranial and final toll. With an honorable mention to rituals if they weren't broken.

[ripe obsidian]

Blight spreads is the worst by a wide margin.

[zealous wing]

agreed

blight is the worst

cranial next for me

[ripe obsidian]

Bring stimm crate or fuck you. Zealot aura doesn't clear fast enough

[crisp ether]

Honestly, I can even enjoy rotten armor at this point. I just hate how some of the modifiers compound with it so awfully.

Like if they did rotten with current purple?

[deft stump]

Before ganger, all you had was zealot.

[ripe obsidian]

One of my conspiracy theories is that cranial affects spawn rates. I know it doesn't, but I lose cranial maps more than anything else

[ripe obsidian]

And it sucked then, too

[deft stump]

I wish they buffed beacon to mortis ver.

And buffed mortis ver more.

[ripe obsidian]

Garden might be more interesting if it were more like the banner carriers in VT2. Less common, but the purple enemy is a mini raid boss rather than just annoying and hard to pick out in a crowd.

Make them taller and purpler

[deft stump]

Taller and bigger.

So easier to see and to shoot.

[ripe obsidian]

Yes

I don't like being unable to tell which of the hyperstacked enemies is the priority target

[deft stump]

Or more unique. Cos they are a nightmare with EO lul.

Is that thing highlighted or no?

Then again, just bonk anyway.

[ripe obsidian]

I'm also overtired and grumpy, so everything makes me feel >:(

[deft stump]

I know. I'm kinda that way but can't sleep.

Partially for reasons I can't talk about here or anywhere.

[ripe obsidian]

You are the guardian of this world, and only your eternal vigil keeps the beasts at bay?

[deft stump]

Wot.

[ripe obsidian]

That's why you can't sleep

To sleep would be to leave us vulnerable

[deft stump]

You are thinking too much.

[spice aurora]

ahrd to tell but i pushed

like 300 ms before pounce and i only had like 80 ping

xd

[deft stump]

Game's been more sus with higher than 50 ping tbh.

Not sure what FS did.

[hallow vector]

oh ive clear dodged dogs and i still get hit

[wind spruce]

Might be a mod for this, and if there isnt could request one in the modders discord

[sturdy reef]

ya this has happened to me too lol

[hallow vector]

current state of the game

i did not know how good at making low quality shitposts i was

[deft stump]

Normal. Pushing usually better. And I mean panic shouting.

[hallow vector]

yeah ive started almost exclusively pushing now

you can spam it (and it has a huge range too) so its very easy to stop dogs if you arent busy

[ripe obsidian]

Had been happening to me more and more of late

[quartz barn]

Pushing also helps teammates

Always a great time when you get hit by something aimed at someone else

[ripe obsidian]

I just played a purple + red H40 where the Inferno + Shriek psyker did only 100k more damage than me, the shield + forceful Arby.

That was mildly perplexing

Because they didn't seem to be doing poorly or anything

Just a low damage game, I guess

[rich spindle]

A lot of them are inefficient at keeping the stacks high

[fluid knot]

Servers broken again?

[deft stump]

Naw, that is a casual day playing at 300 ping.

[fluid knot]

Oceania type net problems

[deft stump]

All disablers are bs.

Reapers 1 tick downs you.

Getting overheaded from something 15m away.

[wind spruce]

Most unfair feeling to me is a gunner killing me while im dogged

And fucking fire when im grabbed by a spawn

[deft stump]

There needs to be a chance of anything attacking you to knock the dog off.

[wind spruce]

It should be a low threshold imo, the whole point of dogs is you die slowly if your teammates dont help

[deft stump]

But also, if a minigun is aimed in the direction, friendly fire is like, guaranteed.

Is one thing if it's only the dog alone.

[fluid knot]

That would be death between 80-100ms, if thats real, that is rough man

[deft stump]

I have like, 280-400 ping.

Pretty sure it's like, I'm dead even before my game knows I'm dead.

Cos I get shot in slides all the time.

[fluid knot]

That part is probably true, at least as far as the server is concerned, but any mission that has a Reaper in it would be an auto-fail if it was single tick death 😄

[deft stump]

Is h40.

You do die in a blink.

[fluid knot]

Yeah, but like, thats faster than you can physically react to the situation, they boost stuff up in Havoc, but not that much

[deft stump]

It is, I was taking toughness and hp damage even when blocking.

Dying to shots in your face while blocking with shield and 100% stam is normal.

Cos you are already dead by the time you get to react.

You need to precog hits and stuff.

[jade karma]

looking at the psyker build bonanza, what does this build mean by low warp resistance force sword? https://docs.google.com/document/d/11Av6T7DJRkm78M3csiZec6p7-cHXOWiKyjpOJ-FWV3g/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.pvyhlc2qu3ea

[deft stump]

60 or less.

You want to roll one with 0-5% in it at the start.

[jade karma]

sooooo i can still 500 power it?

[deft stump]

No.

You want to max all but leave warp resist as low as possible.

[jade karma]

how

[deft stump]

Why you need to roll a 0% to 5% warp resist.

So 0%/60% warp resist.

Then pray rng smiles on you that it upgrades all the rest more.

So you end with 80% all, 20~% warp resist.

[ripe obsidian]

It is not mandatory. Mostly it gives you a Peril On Demand button

[deft stump]

A.k.a. get karking lucky as kark.

[jade karma]

i have to rely on gambling to make this build good?

[fading patrol]

Thats just karien ping in action no?

[jade karma]

is the build worth it for allat

[ripe obsidian]

Low Warp Resistance means you can instantly hop like 40 peril to charge Shriek or whatever else

[deft stump]

Yeah, which is funny how I sometimes survive on 2 hp on zealot for ridiculous amount of time.

[ripe obsidian]

Low WR is hardly necessary for a build to work. It just gives some additional benefits.

[jade karma]

oh ok

[ripe obsidian]

You can easily run a 60% WR sword and perform fine

[fading patrol]

Infinite toughness thanks to power of faith

[deft stump]

I have 55 toughness, currently 80 cos forced toughness node.

[fading patrol]

Bugged interface

[ripe obsidian]

So it doth seem. Ah well. Win's a win, and I got to kill trash mobs because they didn't all die to blue fire before I could bonk.

[deft stump]

245 hp though.

[fading patrol]

Doesnt matter if you never die

[radiant frigate]

any health amount above 0 is good if you can keep it above 0

[quartz barn]

<@&735928989146939404> very original scam

Also tf man, first pic says you get 2500 but they get 2700 in the last. Cant even make a consistent story....

[zealous wing]

another 2 mil ordo... still no great FGS :(

had one ALMOST perfect, but the secondary dump was in cleave not defense 😭

[sage pulsar]

What're you even trying to get?

[zealous wing]

warp res sub 10, defense 50+, everything else 80

[sage pulsar]

Why low defenses?

[zealous wing]

oof

[zealous wing]

because getting sub10 with 80 in all is pretty impossible

defense is the only one that can be dumped somewhat and be fine

long as its over 50, i wont lose a dodge

[sage pulsar]

Ahhh, i see then

[zealous wing]

hhhhhhhhh

[wind spruce]

Pretty sure six got one from the shop

Cheating

[zealous wing]

see, im willing to settle

i dont do h40s all the time, i just do heresy-auric depending on how much mental energy i have, so my ordo build up is significantly slower

like, if i GET one, hell yeah ill take it

also, its not sub 10

its at 10

[zinc phoenix]

Play rates for scum must have cratered if they’re getting buffs

[zealous wing]

the default consecrations

[zinc phoenix]

I saw someone do the damage dump fire sword

They got mogged and quit but it was funny

[sage pulsar]

Wym, clearly damage is an unimportant stat for the massive fucking sword

[weary crane]

just found this on the train

[zealous wing]

????

that a fuckin assassin wtf

[weary crane]

There's a spot where specialists just float, I'll upload the video in a bit

[lament topaz]

The hive scum pistols would go so hard on psyker

Thank you autocorrect

[zealous wing]

AWWWWwwwwwwwww they fixed the progress bar

[unreal yew]

which foce greatsword should I use?

force*

[zealous wing]

mark 6

[clear hollow]

MKVI That single target heavy attack is carapace armor's bane

[unreal yew]

I've been using the 8

[deft stump]

Ah yes, the classic and GL hitting the karker with anything midrange.

Been doing like 25-30 trains a week.

Been seeing tiny red/orange dots for sniper.

[unreal yew]

should I go with flak and carapace ?

[deft stump]

UNYIELDING and cara.

[unreal yew]

I'm using flak and maniac

[deft stump]

Why would you put flak when they already die in like 2 hits.

[unreal yew]

hmm

[deft stump]

Why would you need maniac when nearly everything but crushers and bosses die in 2 hits tops?

I guess captains but still.

[zealous wing]

older clip of crusher dueling, then also .... burgle

ie, carapace, then unyielding

could probably duel the crushers more fluidly but meh it gets the point across

[weary crane]

https://youtube.com/shorts/GvMwl_LD6AE

[unreal yew]

didn't like the mk6 move set

mk8 is better for horde

[deft stump]

Look, when ALL your chars roll 8 mission for weeklies...

[clear hollow]

if you actually learn the moveset of the mark 6, youll be able to deal with horde just fine. plus are you even using the projected slash attack? get that meter completely full and let her rip. the mk6 is more versatile than the mk8

[unreal yew]

I like the mk8 light attacks

they are more horizontal

I most times miss one hit or another because of the weird angle

mk8 is also pretty good

[clear hollow]

mk 6 block push ligh light. cant get anymore horizontall than that

[unreal yew]

mk8 all lights are horizontal

even some heavies

[clear hollow]

bro has no nuance to combo making

combo making? whats that?

[unreal yew]

for some reason I feel like mk8 has more cleave

[clear hollow]

are you using warp splitting?

[ripe obsidian]

Mk8 is better for hordes if you're really focusing on that. But Mk6 isn't bad at hordes at all.

3 of the 4 lights are horizontal

And it has the warp slash, which can clear trash mobs with 1 charge

Mk6 also has much better single-target damage

And 6 is a superior number

[unreal yew]

yeah

I also prefer the mk8 heavy moveset

yeah but for some reason the mk8 move set is more enjoyable for me. I can also survive much better with the mk8 move set than mk6

and the damage difference doesn't feel noticeable

[deft stump]

On lower diff, sure. But the gap for boss/crusher TTK is bigger.

[unreal yew]

havoc 30 it's alright

just a few more hits

[cobalt bone]

Whats considered lower difficulty nowadays?

[deft stump]

Honestly, to most, anything below H30.

Some better players say below h35.

[unreal yew]

I think the move set make up for the less damage

[deft stump]

I usually mean below h25/auric mael.

[still spindle]

Alright Stupid question time!

I'm currently By Crack of Bone on my melee sciers build. It's great at extending scier's duration by a massive degree, but outside that I feel like I have a really hard time keeping my peril at anything close to higher values (to make use of One with the Warp and Warp Rider) even with Warp Ghosts, Just a Dream, and Kinetic Deflection. Does dropping it make sense, or is the extended Sciers duration just too worth it?

[deft stump]

It's a taste thing.

I don't think anyone can really change your mind if you get annoyed by it one way or another.

Is just you might need to manually quell more to upkeep without it.

[still spindle]

Alrighty then, I'll give it a go and see if I like how it feels

Worst case scenario I die painfully and horribly and go back

[deft stump]

I mean, best way to test and learn. Lul.

[still spindle]

Gonna swap it for the cleave on peril and swap my greatsword from Wrath to Shred

Maybe find a way to squeeze in Battle Meditation to I at least have some peril reduction

[nova leaf]

Im tired of playing with fire and brain burst. Someone got a funny lighning build ?

[deft stump]

To be fair shred is always better than wrath.

The other is unstable power or summthing.

[still spindle]

Yeah I've already been an unstable power addict lol

And I think I'll pick up warp unbound for the free parking at 100% peril

[deft stump]

Isn't like BCoB better than that?

[still spindle]

Yes! But it's too good, after my sciers is done I'll drop down to no peril too quick

[nova leaf]

Like doesnt have to be the lightning staff but i would like something else than fire. And i wanna use smite.

[still spindle]

Battle med will keep my peril higher on average I think

[deft stump]

Dunno tbh. 10% is 10%.

[still spindle]

True but it's 10% occasionally instead of 10% every swing

[deft stump]

XD

It also reduces generation.

[still spindle]

Yeah but so does BCoB

[deft stump]

Passively though.

Is really why I have it on meme builds.

[still spindle]

I mean for all intents and purposes "after a weakspot kill" is basically all the time that matters

[deft stump]

Do you want to complain 14 ragers giving you not enough peril to vent?

[unreal yew]

yeah, I think it's more about getting used to the move set. When the horde density is high, doesn't matter if the swing is full horizontal or slightly diagonally

[deft stump]

Yeah, that sort of meme builds.

[deft stump]

True. I forgot I have no accuracy, so when I do crit back headstab a boss, we always laugh at it.

[ripe obsidian]

All builds are cataloged in the pinned guide. All of them. Ever. If you see a build that's not in the guide, you're hallucinating.

[marble crater]

Or... you forgot

[still spindle]

Aaaand after a run:

Good news: I stayed at 97% Peril basically all the time outside when I popped sciers
Bad News: Since the various "replace blocked/taken damage with peril" only works below critical peril, I got my head stomped in lol

Did not realize how much I relied on those working

Absolutely a skissue

[lament topaz]

wish i could describe how i play my psyker but really all i can say is brain damaged zealot that can sometimes blow 5 peoples heads schmove off with his mind

[still spindle]

hehe no worries. I'm transitioning from stealing other peoples builds to actually understanding how they tick and it is an experience

Sometimes I drop something I didn't realize how important it was

[lament topaz]

if u gimme a bit i can check if my website build is the same as ingame and i can post it again

[still spindle]

So originally I stole this build
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9ff45845-e1cc-4b1b-9341-33815857c7ca/brainsplosion-gun-psyker-a-new-dawn-csgo-knife-surfer

Since, I've swapped Wrath for Shred on the sword, swapped the curios for my own preference, and swapped the perks Anticipation for Warp Splitting

-# Thank you Mr. build doc by the way it is a wonderful source of information

I might end up swapping Immaterial Focus for Vulnerable Minds too

I should probably drop Warp Speed but honestly it's too fun

[ripe obsidian]

Have you seen the templates in the build guide?

[still spindle]

I have! They're really nice!

[ripe obsidian]

Good. Those took a while to make, and I am glad they're helping

[still spindle]

I ended up grabbing that build from the community builds section cuz I liked how it worked, and now I'm swapping things around as I see fit

It's wonderful for figuring out why a perk is chosen, which is my currently line of experimentation

Obviously sometimes just running an Auric game and dying painfully is needed, but it has saved me a lot of pain

It's also really nice when I wanna try something that looks cool to have an easy starting place to work from

[lament topaz]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a10c9ef8-f4e4-4fb4-a505-8f2a8fe64a32/le-build-2 @still spindle ignore the laspistol blessing i dont have the levels to give it anything better but it should be up to date

[still spindle]

Looks Neat! Although not having Empathic Evasion or Perfect timing hurts my soul, lol

[lament topaz]

who needs to dodge when you can just kill them first

:)

[still spindle]

Fair enough

[lament topaz]

also i feel it makes me more mindful of what im doing tbh

[still spindle]

Feels a lot more blitz focused than what I'm going for

[ripe obsidian]

You are welcome. Happy to help

[still spindle]

I picked up Brain Rupture and Kinetic Flayer for the free pops but I rarely actively use it

[lament topaz]

oh yeah no im set to basically kill like one elite then pop scriers and get like 7 bigger fellas murdered

[ripe obsidian]

Tbh same. BR is a tax node to get to KF

[lament topaz]

mostly bc i do not trust my pubs to do good elite clear

[still spindle]

Yeah that's fair

Now with BCoB I'm debating Warp Ghosts. Obviously the stamina and toughness is wonderful but the Passive Quelling kinda doesn't do anything

[deft stump]

I mean, is why you try and test it.

[still spindle]

True

[deft stump]

You find out you actually were using BCoB, but not in the blatant way till you don't have it. XD

[still spindle]

yeeeep

Turns out it was much more important than I first realized

[deft stump]

Just not an in your face thing. So I'm assuming you are keeping BCoB and warp splitting+melee atk spd?

[still spindle]

Yep!

Warp splitting feels really nice without wrath on the sword (and after seeing my new crit numbers I'm not dropping shred)

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a10e7882-544a-4f3f-b215-76434104105c/melee-sciers

This is what I got going now

[deft stump]

Btw, it also helps with assail. So feel free to throw those out in that no boomie 11 sec at 100% peril.

Unless you are doing the BB lazy thing.

Maybe I should share my newbie build for meleeker.

[still spindle]

I am doing BR Kinetic Flayer, but honestly I might swap to assail

I should probably swap Warp Speed to Warp Unbound but the speed is too nice

-# I like my zoomy psyker

[deft stump]

It made someone go from 7 deaths and like over 20 downs to... occasionally downing to a crusher or sniper.

Which just happens.

[still spindle]

I can believe it

[deft stump]

It's heavily defensive though, since they play on malice and heresy.

But better than in rescue 70% of the run.

[still spindle]

Death is the greatest DPS loss, so if that's what it takes to keep the murder going

[deft stump]

True. And yeah, they uhh, used my medicae dip as well so...

[still spindle]

You will have no health and you will like it!

Hope you're playing zombie zealot, lol

[deft stump]

Oh, I don't mind. Is malice/heresy.

I tend to be like 1-5 hp damage by accidental hit.

[still spindle]

Anywho, so if I did swap Kinetic Flayer for Assail, I get a free point to put somewhere

Warp Ghost would be nice solely for the extra stamina and toughness, and anticipation just feels nice on the greatsword

Quietude for the moar toughness

Wait Malefix Momentum

[deft stump]

Warp ghost is nice, needs time to get used to the basically no auto quell.

In battle anyway.

[still spindle]

I'm already pretty used to no auto quell, my previous iterations of my melee build have used it

[deft stump]

MM is only if you go assail.

[still spindle]

Well this is the hypothetical planning for swapping to assail

[deft stump]

Fling a bunch at an elite pack and go ham.

Then fling more.

[still spindle]

gonna try it out on damnation to see if I die a painful death

Alright, I need to swap to warp unbound or fix my detonation skissue

[ripe obsidian]

Note that strength, which I believe Unstable Power has, is also cleave.

Strength is cleave, damage, and stagger.

So you don't usually need Wrath.

And since the warp slash is infinite cleave already...

[still spindle]

Yeah, it's up to +5% strength

[thorn cedar]

stacks four times

tooltip still wrong huh

[zealous wing]

20%

[still spindle]

ahh

That makes more sense

[lament topaz]

on one hand i feel like i should get scoreboard again just to see how im stacking up to other people but i also dont want to see how badly im doing

also is it normal to have a black screen after the cutscene at the end of the campaign

like its stuck on with full character control

i can turn my camera but i cant see anything till i pause

[deft stump]

Why just keep shred. No downsides unless you can't do consecutive hits. Then I question, is this uprising?

Cos swing once, everything ded.

[still spindle]

I'm running Shred and Unstable Power

[ripe obsidian]

Same blessings I use

[lament topaz]

on?

[deft stump]

Isn't it the 'meta'?

[lament topaz]

whats the difference between the mk6 and mk 8 greatswords again

mk6 is more single target right?

[clear hollow]

mk 6 is better

[lament topaz]

if u heavy a lot

[clear hollow]

against armor yah, i dont know why you woulld take the 8

[lament topaz]

i have a bolt pistol, brain burst and that one BB thing that goes off on any atk on an elite

or higher

i mostly use the sword to dump peril into a pox horde tbh

[clear hollow]

i use flame staff to get my peril up then switch to melee since i got the perks that increase cleave and toughness dmg reduction

[lament topaz]

i posted my build earlier if u wanna look at it

[clear hollow]

you dont use deflector on GS?

[lament topaz]

no

it works okay on heresy

[deft stump]

Deflector is more a side blessing for an offhand normal force sword tbh.

[lament topaz]

ill be real im trying to cover as many bases as i can with my psyker bc i dont trust my pubs enough

[clear veldt]

Hi Sparkheads

[clear hollow]

this is the build i use https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a10e8da1-e1e1-4246-a633-25ebc421de1a/empowered-headpop

@lament topaz

[visual osprey]

Brain burst scryer crit build with force gs and voidstrike staff

[lament topaz]

well im most of the way there on that one

i just use a boltor/laspistol

[visual osprey]

The staves are infinitely better on psyker than the firearms

[verbal thistle]

Depends on what context

[lament topaz]

never really liked the staves tbh

[modern bluff]

Run the Shredder Pistol if you're doing anything other than Havoc.

[visual osprey]

Laspistol can be good but definitely not great for crowd control

Shredder is a great pick

[lament topaz]

i saw your name on a zealot once

[modern bluff]

Yeah it was probably me lol

Hope I wasn't an ass

[lament topaz]

it was in the hub

dont remember if u were dripped out with the saltz like hat or not

[modern bluff]

usually got my shopping list nailed to my face

[lament topaz]

yep

[frail oar]

Gross.

Gundalf despises this rhetoric

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/thor-really-it-is-what-it-is-gif-22328595

[clear hollow]

i mean, there is a reason why most high threat build use staves over guns.

[lament topaz]

luv me bolt pistol

luv me laspistol

simple as

[still spindle]

My laspistol helps a lot with solving the problem of "I need that guy over there dead now" as opposed to dead when a teammate can go it, when a brainburst charges, when I get in range, etc

[lament topaz]

exactly

[still spindle]

I could bring the voidburst staff for it, but the laspistol just does it better

[lament topaz]

ive got a dilema

do i attempt to do the campaign again in dam pubs or do i just go play elden ring

[visual osprey]

Thee are the one who shall not pass

[frail oar]

Do not be too eager to deal out judgement

[narrow herald]

Yes

[swift osprey]

I'm a little confused. Inferno staff Fire is Soulblaze Fire?

[fresh panther]

The blue fire from soul blaze counts as a separate source

[verbal thistle]

It does 2 things. The impact damage of the fire and then it applies the soulblaze DoT

[fresh panther]

It stacks separately and gets different bonuses from talents

[swift osprey]

So how do the soulblaze stacks work? Admittedly I mostly skimmed stuff, but like, separate sources total up? But each source has their own caps

[verbal thistle]

yeah

[swift osprey]

Woops, i was meant to cancel the reply, was a general question

[verbal thistle]

depending on source, soulblaze has a different cap. Total can not pass 30

[swift osprey]

So if I'm pumping damage on a boss I should be refreshing across all sources

As an example

[verbal thistle]

from Kuli's Psyker guide on steam

[swift osprey]

Yeah I have that bit open rn

[radiant frigate]

freakishly high ADMs except cara

[verbal thistle]

depends on sitaution, if possible in a short time yeah. Its free extra damage

[swift osprey]

At least now I know it's not wasteful to spray down a horde then Creeping flames

[radiant frigate]

if creeping flames could have killed it by itself then yes actually it is a waste

[swift osprey]

I'm still power leveling in Malice so everything dies too fast either way

[modern bluff]

I wanna go

[swift osprey]

Oh sorry i meant as a general thing, not right now I'm literally in bed getting ready to sleep

[modern bluff]

Blasphemy

[swift osprey]

I am Blasph-sleepy

[verbal thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-brick-meme-break-explode-gif-13868715770986833670

[modern bluff]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/745500922704298025/1470936890084556842/harrison-ford-we-are-going-to-die.gif

[modern bluff]

Same vibe

[flint mountain]

Is there something I'm missing about force swords? They feel kinda, idk...sauceless?
Like the greatsword, you gent a giant laser cleave projectile but the normal sword is like...do an animation to double the damage of a hit in the same time it'd take to hit them twice?

You can't even mod multiple charge hits on it like a power sword.

[buoyant maple]

that's the neat part u don't use force sword's special attack in majority cases

[flint mountain]

I feel like there's not much of a reason to take that over any non-force weapons then.

Is that wrong?

[buoyant maple]

force swords do have super strong blessing pool and are more versatile than duelling swords

[flint mountain]

I see, maybe I'll need to pimp one out a bit and take it on some actual missions.

[merry meteor]

Hey. I thought that if you start to charge BB whatever %s below the 100% threshold by snapping to a target with LMB, it will always be 100% safe, you won't blow up yourself like that. Now I see that in one case you actually can blow up yourself - if you not actively Quell but just allow it to naturally drop a few %s, then snap to your target with LMB

Was it always like that?

[verbal thistle]

97.1% and charging a brainburst kills you when the animation finishes

[merry meteor]

so it always was like that?

[verbal thistle]

I think so?

not 100% sure

[thorn cedar]

as long as i can recall

[summer prairie]

WR changes the threshold, especially ER

[modern bluff]

1H Force Sword has Uncanny Strike

Makes it really busted

If you have the movement speed talent for Scrier's Gaze, you can move really fast with a 1H Force Sword

[zealous wing]

so uh

assail makes warp ghost not work

kinda

[dull scroll]

force swords have it's own special ranged force pushes as push atk, which is an extremely strong utility skill, also things like deimo's godlike h2 atk can out of the box push crushers straight to the ground if poked in the head in one hit, no other weapons in game can do

downside is it's the slowest of psyker meta weapons, you'll move like a slug compared to ds/knife 😒

[zealous wing]

so uh

is it just me or does the number go down faster on assail

[ripe obsidian]

I can try to find quell speed later

[jovial juniper]

Lmao
Assail is just a fidget toy to help with peril

[sharp shoal]

the poke it has is like mk2 relic blade for zealot

which with a stealth build can 1 poke most things in game

even in havoc 40

hammer uses marty to one shot relic blade uses momentum

[ripe obsidian]

Apropos of nothing.

[sharp shoal]

[spice aurora]

y is my game so fucked

dark communion finale, that entire structure is a texture bug u can walk thru it, its not part of the map

same with this

and final cutscene didnt play, i just kept running and i killed bunch of ritualists while they were watching cutscene? lol

[uncut heron]

what is it with these penances and obsession with brain burst

it's actually miserable to use

[deft stump]

Cos they old and were from a time the only blitz was BB.

[uncut heron]

damn must have been truly DARK times eh

I'll see myself out.

[lament topaz]

https://tenor.com/view/shaking-cat-shaking-cat-alien-cat-gif-17719290639671130907

[plucky flax]

Accidentally clicked on zealot channel and immediately saw sus stuff.

[deft stump]

RIP.

[dull scroll]

https://tenor.com/view/gino-d'acampo-gino-dacampo-this-morning-grandmother-wheels-gif-1270420353161197650

[jade karma]

do alot of these builds in the google doc always rely on high peril

[patent jacinth]

Psyker relies on high peril

[clear hollow]

i havent seen a buld that doesnt

[patent jacinth]

The entire class revolves around running hot as possible without popping

[deft stump]

It's the edging class.

What did you expect?

[jade karma]

i busted like 5 times this round

[clear hollow]

kek

[deft stump]

You were supposed to edge, not to bust yourself.

[clear hollow]

sometimes you just gotta bust when the situtaion is hairy

[deft stump]

What's next? Stroking your Illisi till you explode around you?

[zealous wing]

you could technically play a psyker with no/minimal peril, but your benefits would also be minimal

definitely worth learning peril management to some degree, but at the same time, if it is a struggle (have a friend who just, cant do it), you can run a perilless psyker if you still enjoy the weaponry and such, just be aware you wont be doing great damage

i suggest learning to hover around 60%, then slowly increase that as you get more comfortable, you can also go lower if you prefer ofc

[deft stump]

Still okay if you only play heresy tops.

[zealous wing]

ye everything works in heresy

[deft stump]

No more than Damns tbh.

[zealous wing]

meh, damnation and auric have the same HP pools

[deft stump]

Is just good for ppl who just play psyker for weeklies.

[deft stump]

Not the same spawn amounts.

You can get away with slower kills when you aren't absolutely constantly overrun by stuff.

[uncut heron]

50 crusher wave

[jade karma]

whats the best smite build

[modest perch]

gun psyker but with smite instead of assail n dropping malefic momentum for something else

[sage pulsar]

Although smite is... Not great. Since it shuts down ally talents that give bonuses on dodge, doesn't do great damage and assail generally outperforms it

[jade karma]

but mass stun

how do i actually use assail

i just spam whenever

[wooden sand]

The one which helps your teammates but also not annoy your teammates

Basically any smite build that you don't spam it

[jade karma]

honestly dont get why smite is annoying, like why do people hate mass stun

[wooden sand]

Well, the point of smite is to hold the horde for your teammates

Like in situations of crusher spam

Or armored ragers

I would be more gratified if the smite pysker on my team stopped dangerous units from cornering us than to spam it on every trash mob

[wooden sand]

Well you see, it makes the enemies less fun to fight

Because uh

They aren't doing anything anymore

[jade karma]

and

sounds like a skill issue

go focus on the bosses and specilists then

[sage pulsar]

I mean... Partially. Assail somewhat follows the cursor so you can aim it that way. Otherwise it's used to just used to cut through hordes of non-carapace enemies. They don't need to be stunned if they're dead

[sage pulsar]

Also it turns off a lot of skills for other classes if they require people to dodge enemy attacks.

If it's used improperly it can also force your allies to engage in bad positions

And the time spent stunning enemies can also be used generally more efficiently by killing said enemies instead

[wooden sand]

Skill issue to have fun

You heard him guys

[wooden sand]

True

A firestaff can do the same job as a smite but better depending on the situation

[sage pulsar]

Exactly. And unless we're talking about a horde of carapace assail cuts through it effectively as well

[wooden sand]

Yeah

Smite's best use is to stop a horde of elites from cornering you

And that's mostly the only big appeal

[sage pulsar]

And generally even then there's better options

[wooden sand]

Your teammates can already deal with trash mobs, you don't need to stun them

[sage pulsar]

You don't need to stun trash mobs cause you can kill them easier or your team can deal with them plenty easy.

Elite hordes are rather killed then stunned so they're not a problem at all anymore (and something like a trauma staff does both anyway)

[wooden sand]

True

[modest perch]

like as a second melee/peril gen/picking off stuff to spread fire

[wooden sand]

Like a revolver

[modest perch]

stacking malefic momentum/regening toughness from soulstealer

[wooden sand]

That's doesn't penetrate carapace

[modest perch]

[wooden sand]

What

I am not wrong

I literally use it like how I would use a revolver to deal with far away specialist

[modest perch]

u should use it more

[wooden sand]

I do

[modest perch]

yea but do it more

[wooden sand]

I use it for hordes

[modest perch]

u do it more now

[wooden sand]

How

[modest perch]

do it but more of it

[wooden sand]

Isn't throwing random bullshit at hordes enough

[modest perch]

yea but do it more

[potent echo]

Actually true

It's actually your primary and your melee is for carapace

[radiant frigate]

i like to think of assail as secondary

and reconlas as blitz

[modest perch]

theyre all primaries

[radiant frigate]

what-what

[rigid sky]

Recon las still feels sad to me Vs VIAG

[sage pulsar]

Reconlas is just comfy to me at least. Although the VIAG is more of a powerhouse

[cosmic sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/bearish-bearish-af-bearishaf-bear-teddy-gif-11927516832766177228

[sly raft]

Is it just me or doesn't the ''surge'' talent on force staffs work?

can't seem to get the 2nd shot off even on crits

[quartz barn]

only works on primary fire and voidstrike's secondary

[sly raft]

But it is a visable 2nd shot or just double dmg?

[quartz barn]

visible

you actually shoot 2 projectiles

[sly raft]

my staff must be bugged then

[quartz barn]

on voidstrike the secondary fire's explosion can also happen twice

[sly raft]

because i have been shooting for 10min in the meat grinder and havn't fired two shots yet

[quartz barn]

what staff are you using

[sly raft]

Voidblast force staff

with 1 point in the surge blessing

[quartz barn]

could also just be unlucky

dont know what crit perks you have but by default its 5%

[sly raft]

I keep trying to see if i can get it to work, but it's good to know that it actually works 🙂

[quartz barn]

but ye surge on voidblast is pretty ass because you'll mostly be using the secondary

and surge doesnt work for that

[sly raft]

i just get a electrokinetic staff

gonna try that, still new to the game 🙂

[quartz barn]

ye just use whatever for now, psyker starts to shine when fully levelled

early game is rough because you lack most peril oriented perks / staff blessings to make them really strong

[sly raft]

Yeah i find my self at around 100 peril pretty quick right now xD

[slate ledge]

any gamers on right now we need a 4th for some shenanigans

[mental raft]

Surge on electrokinetic staff is absolutely goated to the point it feels kinda braindead to play

With a good build it’s pretty goofy watching the primary fire just delete absolutely everything

[still spindle]

TIL I can use Sciers Gaze (and presumably Shriek too) to dodge a peril explosion during the animation

I feel somewhat stupid for never noticing this before

[zealous wing]

starter ability as well

lots of little hidden things like that

"hidden" as in, not explained

like, you can use zealot throwing knives while channelling chorus, without stopping chorus

[deft stump]

They added it not quite recently tbh.

Used to be only vent.