psyker-class

[sage pulsar]

oh what's the powersword dump stat btw?

[deft stump]

That thing has even worse mobility imo.

Cleave targets.

Cos being able to cleave an extra poxxer is kinda useless.

Yes, H40 mass.

[sage pulsar]

ah, I see I see. Fair enough and good to know. Thanks!

oh, and can I bother you with more questions later since you seem to know your stuff?

[deft stump]

To a degree. Me only play boomboom builds or brainded brrrrrrr spam.

So 'nadier or recon/vraks.

[sage pulsar]

gonna be so fr, sounds like the kinda builds I'd like to run as well.

[deft stump]

I have a plasma god roll but every time I bother with it, I wish I had my vraks instead.

Both are awful for me long range and the delay annoys me.

[sage pulsar]

I just really like assault rifles.

either those, or fast-shooting precision rifles.

[deft stump]

Mhm. Basically, the funny guns gunker likes.

[sage pulsar]

yep. But sometimes I wanna play gunker without the psyker part

[deft stump]

True, I get the feeling.

[sage pulsar]

yeee, also any specific perks that are like. Super important to pick up?

[deft stump]

I told you the two important. The rest are on the right bottom. You want the crit on dodge and the one where sliding and running is free damage.

If you want shocktroop, on left bot. Also leads to shorter stam delay.

Middle is your only CDR node and oggy/monstrosity damage.

[sage pulsar]

I see. That'll be an interesting tree down then, especially since killzone is bottom left instead of right.

[deft stump]

Good luck getting everything if you want a keystone lul.

Vet needs 5 more points 2.0.

[sage pulsar]

wait more points? It already happened once?

[deft stump]

No, the joke is the vet tree used to be taxed to heck.

It kinda still is if you want to cross pick nodes.

Want to pick a 'nade not shredders? 1-2 point tax to get survivalist.

[sage pulsar]

sounds tough to actually get a varied build then

[deft stump]

And such. It's less now, but still iffy since they fork at the bottom.

[deft stump]

Yep, basically making stealth+smoke awful to path.

Like TAXES?

[sage pulsar]

no I don't

[deft stump]

If you want survivalist.

[sage pulsar]

all I'd want is an AR go brrrrr build

[deft stump]

XD

[sage pulsar]

like I know it's dumb but god damnit sometimes I just wanna turn my brain partially off and become bullet hose xD

[deft stump]

What difficulty lul, though uhh, I ran an idiot build in h16 before so, herp.

[sage pulsar]

well, eventually hopefully high level havocs. But also most of the time I run around in like, aurics or around there. My ass never got higher then havoc 15 even on my main character xD

[unkempt panther]

This is assuming a level of competence and care and attention to detail from obese fish which might not be true

[orchid cedar]

Why does everyone seem to use unstable power on fgs, even though it's just a 5% strength buff?

[marble crater]

Because the description is wrong and it's 5% per stack for a total of 20% maximum

[cosmic sigil]

mfg

[ripe obsidian]

Mister E having bad takes?!

https://giphy.com/gifs/gets-smart-question-vQqeT3AYg8S5O

[cosmic sigil]

yep

nothing new

[zealous wing]

suipsyker shenanigans

[crisp oriole]

how good is shield on auric/havoc?

I imagine it can be destroyed quickly with enough ranged mobs around

[keen barn]

Can't manage to improve over 21 havoc
like bouncing from 21 to 20 all the time. Any coaching resources please? Sometimes I suck, sometimes teammates. Sometimes teammates, sometimes when twin bosses spawn and one pushes me as a psyker and I am being overwhelmed and can't clear horde well and teammates go down. So idk

[hallow vector]

whats loadout

[zealous wing]

it depends how competent your teammates are, if they're good, its not needed, but its a good beacon of "be here" or to help push when your frontline refuses to push forward

[zealous wing]

you mentioning horde clear has me think youre on inferno, and if you're being cornered by a boss, thats not your fault, thats on the team, since its not your job to kill bosses, you kill everything else.

if you've got a monster on your ass, and the arby is over there hitting poxxers, thats on the arby if you go down

im not sure if we have an actual havoc resource available, but we do have many people here who do havocs regularly and can answer questions when available, such as @ripe obsidian

[ripe obsidian]

eck

what need ye

why be I summoned

[zealous wing]

see? like a gremlin

[keen barn]

Im on inferno

[keen barn]

inferno, duel, 3 toughness

[zealous wing]

shriek inferno or bubble

oh

[keen barn]

shriek

[zealous wing]

dueling sword.... oof

why do i keep seeing infernos using dueling sword

knife makes sense, dueling sword doesnt

genuine question

[keen barn]

I played with knife

Liked it

[ripe obsidian]

was meta for a long time

[keen barn]

but someone told me that duelling better...

[ripe obsidian]

Dueling Sword is a mobility stick that does decent single-target damage.

[zealous wing]

knife if you dont mind the damage loss for mobility gain, force sword like obscurus or deimos if you want some mobility but more damage

and more importantly

force sword for uncanny stacking

[ripe obsidian]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1004447866250613048/1295449409160478781/chiquichico-ezgif.com-instagif.gif

Deimos H2 is also amazing

[zealous wing]

the push attack is a 9 meter weakspot hit, which procs unanny strike

which then in turn gives rending to your fire

[ripe obsidian]

Dueling Sword's special attack, prior to being replaced with the parry, was a reliable stagger

[keen barn]

damn so many information...

[zealous wing]

psyker is complex

there is no "strongest build", theres too many variables

[keen barn]

I liked knife with bleeds and uncanny

[zealous wing]

that does work

you wont be able to clear armour quite as well, but you will have much better mobility

[keen barn]

so I died cause of the team, got it

[zealous wing]

and poor positioning, but mostly yes

rinda is a bitch

[keen barn]

damn I just can't clear fucking 21 🙁

[zealous wing]

we dont like rinda

[keen barn]

yeah well

[rich spindle]

Wats ur friend code I’ll help

[keen barn]

I am good for today, maybe tomorrow? THanks

[rich spindle]

Sounds good I’ll be around tomorrow

[ripe obsidian]

Inferno on its own struggles against... mostly just bosses and crushers. LMB to stagger things, RMB for damage. Spamming LMB is a bad idea for damage output.

But you do need to position well to get the most out of your build. I see a lot of Inferno psykers who play super passively and are afraid to actually get close enough to burn things

So everything is just dead before they can contribute

[zealous wing]

then theres me right up in the face of everything wondering why im dead 2 frames later

[ripe obsidian]

Especially with Shriek. Run at things, Shriek at them, trust in Empathic Evasion, dodging, and toughness regen to keep you alive.

You have to be really aggressive to perform well on Inferno imo

When I am playing with randoms, I am usually in the front and setting the pace

When playing with, like, AgentChaos or Vect, they're doing the same on Inferno 90% of the time

[keen barn]

so I will probably use knife

cause I am always running behind

cause well low mobility on psyker

What knife blessing are the best? Krit bleed and uncanny?

and mark 3, right?

[rich spindle]

There is a nice technique, while charging up the staff, if you hold sprint and then slide, you can slide around pretty fast while charging

[ripe obsidian]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QBxSu--v9AY

Dis is what Agent uses

[rich spindle]

The knife mark doesn’t matter much, you can use whichever you like more

[keen barn]

sure

[rich spindle]

The knife bleed only has a noticeable effect on captains and bosses, so I like lacerate for more consistent stacks, but the difference isn’t a lot

[ripe obsidian]

I just use Deimos for poking things

Has enough mobility for my purposes, and the damage/stagger is strong

I like getting in there and poking crushers to death

[rich spindle]

I think the Deimos actually has the same boss dps as fgs

On paper

[zealous wing]

if it can get 14k dmg stab then im curious

[ripe obsidian]

More if you're Dorfan.

[keen barn]

fgs?

[ripe obsidian]

Force Greatsword

[ripe obsidian]

Deimos won't compete for damage per strike, but it's faster

[rich spindle]

In psyk cspawn dies in the same time to both

[zealous wing]

in active spar or just stabbing

[rich spindle]

Invis on

Didn’t want to do enough tests to average out all the invis off runs

[keen barn]

damn he is good

How he aim brainburst like that?

Imo brain burst the hardest abuility to use

idk

[drowsy spire]

How bad is the left side of tele shield?

[verbal thistle]

its actually really good at specialist control

harder to use then bubble

[buoyant maple]

It’s like SOTT’s wall, sorta

[drowsy spire]

Hmmm okay I’ll try it out then I’m rebuilding my melee psyker I got flamed in a h35 bc I wasn’t using bubble(keep in mind this guy whose was complaining went down instantly)

[verbal thistle]

its really good to counter mutants

[drowsy spire]

Tbf I was using smite as well but idk how smite functions with it

[buoyant maple]

It always staggers specialists iirc?

And for other enemies it rolls a 10% RNG

[verbal thistle]

100% for special, 10 or 20% for elites

[verbal thistle]

no interaction with each other

[buoyant maple]

If u know what ur doing u can shut down flamers and mutants extremely well

[verbal thistle]

yeah

high skill ceiling, knowing where things spawn and how they behave

[buoyant maple]

Unfortunately the most dangerous specialist enemy bypasses all defenses

[ripe obsidian]

AgentChaos is one of the best Psykers I know of. Others are Ainz, bruh moment, Syllogism, S4lmon, and Vect, in no particular order.

[ripe obsidian]

What do you mean?

[drowsy spire]

Does enfeeble not consider them apart of electrocuted?

[verbal thistle]

lets check in kuli guide

1 min

[buoyant maple]

It does electrocute

[verbal thistle]

"Any source that may apply an Electrocution effect to enemies but is not Smite or Charged Strike will not proc Enfeeble."

[drowsy spire]

Damn

nvm

Idk why in all my years of playing DT I never played psyker fr

[rich spindle]

You sensed that it was for noobs

[drowsy spire]

Everytime I tried it the early game just felt miserable compared to others idk

Btw which variant of blaze sword is the best to use? I remember only 1 of the 3 being considered one of the best in class

[verbal thistle]

@rich spindle

[buoyant maple]

U made the correct decision of wanting to play 100% of the game

[ripe obsidian]

Obscurus is most versatile, Deimos is easiest for good impact, Illisi is sad.

[rich spindle]

Honey, time for your 1 hour 17 minute excise vault game!

[verbal thistle]

I rolled the same map again

lol

its my fav

[buoyant maple]

Either Obscurus or Deimos

[drowsy spire]

Only reason I’m playing it now is I see melee psyker seems genuinely fun

[rich spindle]

Goatse map

[drowsy spire]

Can it stagger crushers etc. or does it take some work

[ripe obsidian]

Deimos can.

Heavy 2 headshots

[buoyant maple]

Deimos H2 can
And all force melee weapons’ push attacks can

Because psyker obviously needed it

[ripe obsidian]

Knocks crushers and unshielded captains over

[ripe obsidian]

We are smol and brittle

[buoyant maple]

We shud nerf psyker toughness to 50 and remove all toughness nodes in psyker tree

https://tenor.com/view/peaceemote-peace-peaceful-gif-15091939045954194911

[ripe obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-glass-paper-break-gif-18384377

Paper skin and glass bones

[rich spindle]

I don’t like that psyk can survive bursters now

I miss when no one played it 😭

[drowsy spire]

Void staff is mainly good for it staggering everything correct? I don’t wanna go down the inferno route and kinetic is just so ass for havoc

[marble crater]

Which one? Blast, yes. Strike, eww.

[marble crater]

We should remove you

[buoyant maple]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1075782743285301308/1448329868491100252/supra.gif

[rich spindle]

https://youtu.be/wy_G29MTZks?si=N5DdMQJFN_r7wEAB ek is gud

[buoyant maple]

EK actually top tier

[ripe obsidian]

Electrokinetic is very strong

[rich spindle]

Stop copying me

[ripe obsidian]

No. >:(

I outdamaged (melee) Vect with LMB EK yesterday

[rich spindle]

That game was dclaw Hell

[drowsy spire]

I swear I feel like I can’t kill elites maybe it’s the blessing or perks I have on it

[ripe obsidian]

Nothing gets to attack you

So nothing to parry

Only pain

[rich spindle]

It’s worse on scab seed

On dreg seed it’s gg

[drowsy spire]

I have surge and warp nexus on for my blessings and and maniac and flak should I swap those out?

[buoyant maple]

scab seed gud cuz no tox bomber spam

it's just all melee

[rich spindle]

Naw that’s good. Are you spamming lmb with that

[ripe obsidian]

Tox bombers are gross

[rich spindle]

If you spam lmb with that you should get 1 million specialist and gunner kills

[hardy citrus]

@hearty wolf are u still sworn off havoc

[ripe obsidian]

Yup. Pair LMB EK with SG for endless pewpew or Shriek for burnination

[drowsy spire]

Nah I wasn’t spamming it

[rich spindle]

The surge double proc only works on the lmb

https://tenor.com/view/tralalero-tralala-shark-with-feet-nike-wave-sea-shark-gif-16989775738261773593

[spice aurora]

I recommend full auto mod so that way you can overload 3x per game

[hearty wolf]

I haven'yt launched that dogshit in ages

I could launch tho

[keen barn]

He starts brainburst, then looks away killing the guyy

I mean starts charging in the guy, looks away and kills him

[hardy citrus]

i haven't played in a bit either actually

no rot no blight tho

so we could run some

[hearty wolf]

https://discord.com/channels/727074276724965407/1042858654489120860

[ripe obsidian]

Once Brain Burst is locked onto a target, you do not have to keep looking at them

[spice aurora]

Does charged strikes and enfeeble do anything against anything in h40 or nah

[jovial juniper]

It actually falls off against horde tier enemies

https://tenor.com/view/pfft-trying-not-to-laugh-laughing-holding-laugh-covering-laugh-gif-10899551814881068905

[keen barn]

Insane actually, use LMB or RMB?

When on keyboard

[ripe obsidian]

LMB. I don't think I have ever used RMB to precharge BB

[keen barn]

Thanks for advice

[ripe obsidian]

Are ya winnin

[hardy citrus]

we won one!

idk who they were

but they joined

and they did good

so not complaining

[thorn cedar]

wild to me

[rich spindle]

Average h40 applicant

[hardy citrus]

that is a havoc applicant

[rich spindle]

At least one of his weapons is 500

That’s actually pretty good

[ripe obsidian]

I don't really understand the benefit of precharging it

[buoyant maple]

if he puts carapace on plasma, it's chalked

[rich spindle]

If you hear a special coming around the corner

Saves a second

[hardy citrus]

Bistol has penetration

@hearty wolf

[thorn cedar]

but its right there

its precharged

[hearty wolf]

maybe I ought to give it a go on Zealot again

because fuck spending 2 years reloading the Zarona

[hardy citrus]

i dont like it off psyker

psyker has fuckloads of damage boosts so it works

[ripe obsidian]

I often find that time spent precharging is time that could be better spent doing other things

I try to avoid using BB actively unless absolutely necessary

[hearty wolf]

@hardy citrus actually

game of deadlock?

[hardy citrus]

can do

I'm not good though so don't expect anything notable

[hearty wolf]

is ok

we will see how it goes

410894657

[crisp oriole]

is it me or primary spam on electro staff seems powerfull as hell?

you can spam this crap mindlessly and simply enter scrier gaze once your brain goes numb

[rich spindle]

We will have to investigate this

[crisp oriole]

very good dps, decent horde clear, good stagger

[static sonnet]

its like top 3 build I believe

[narrow herald]

I mean it's good but not trauma, fire, or force greatsword level

[crisp oriole]

I played inferno with shield b4 this, havent felt as powerfull

[narrow herald]

Was this a malice game?

[deft stump]

With shield. You should be venting.

[crisp oriole]

no, auric

but yeah, with infinite cleave on fire it can do much more on higher enemy counts I think

[narrow herald]

Main issue with primary spam is wave clear, but I'm sure you can fix that with the melee or shout

Psyker can play anything it doesn't matter anymore

[crisp oriole]

why doesnt matter?

[narrow herald]

Psyker is giga busted

Best class in the game by far

Well maybe the gap has been closed a bit by scum

[crisp oriole]

I imagine people say that in every class channel lol

[narrow herald]

Nah everyone unironically knows it

[crisp oriole]

how come I dont see more psykers then

[narrow herald]

Because I don't want to fall asleep in my chair while playing

[white sky]

Learning curve+some of the playstyles are(subjectively) insanely boring

[crisp oriole]

just played with 3 zealots, felt like they were my personal guard(and executors if I go crazy)

[narrow herald]

Psyker is fun when you don't play the insanely infinite cleave builds

Even then, it feels like I'm lowering the difficulty every time I play as one

Fatshark nerfs Psyker in 2029 trust

[white sky]

Another paragraph to scriers

[crisp oriole]

psyker nerf petition was sent to Adeptus Administratum 3 years ago

just 8 more years until they consider it

[narrow herald]

Fatshark would rather nerf Ogryn than Psyker

[crisp oriole]

psycho dominance

I like it

imagine on psyker death there would be a chance to spawn demonhost

[narrow herald]

Still wouldn't be a nerf

Because the only way a Psyker can die is if it is a self inflicting explode

[crisp oriole]

friendly fire on explode

psyker trolls will randomly join missions and blow up crew on purpose

[loud girder]

pub psykers are perma kissing the floor

its the good ones that know how to cheese the class

[crisp oriole]

its true, more than half of psykers arent that overpowered and regularly kissing floor(me included)

[buoyant maple]

most players are not good at this game
and most psyker players are especially not good at this game

this doesn't defeat that psyker has the most broken kit of all classes

[buoyant maple]

nah, just character deletion cuz the psyker's soul got schlurped by nurgle

[plucky flax]

[crisp oriole]

wtf is rending actually? does it do something for lmb electro staff build?

[spice aurora]

Helps it kill carapace but idk if you can get enough to actually get a meaningful ttk on a crusher

Rending technically will give you 1/4th benefit when you reach the “true dmg” point against an armor type but its mostly for carapace xD

[slate ledge]

https://tenor.com/view/uncle-bao-bao-bao-salad-tossed-gif-5789816204724120038

crap embed fail

[cobalt python]

You guys still insane in here because of the warp

[tepid crypt]

Which stat for the Blaze Force Sword is the dump stat?

[rich spindle]

damage

[ripe obsidian]

Attacks have an armor damage modifier against different enemy types. Rending gives a personal damage bonus against flak, maniac, unyielding, and carapace armor types. If you are below 100% ADM, you get the full bonus. Otherwise 1/4.

[ripe obsidian]

Warp Resist

I have all staff ADMs in the pinned build guide.

[ripe obsidian]

well, this game is starting poorly. Silent burster, silent sniper, silent random poxwalkers

and a silent flamer walking into melee range and burning me to death

[rich spindle]

hellen keller gaming

[ripe obsidian]

I just had a burster walk at me silently

It started beeping after I pushed it

[verbal thistle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1470265229610061904/7590B11.MP4?ex=698aaab2&is=69895932&hm=30c0eed7cd2a6d48cb8577ec4939eb9c6c1879e3157d4f20aba1eec5d6d71256&

[ripe obsidian]

I am now dead watching my team be pushed back across Archivum Sycorax because purple + pus hordes are disgusting

[ripe obsidian]

Dreg Ragers are the scariest enemies in the game, jeez

Wave of ragers spawns, 4 of the ~12 are purple and CC immune

[verbal thistle]

Dclaw

[plucky flax]

Run away with knife

[potent echo]

"holy shit"

[rich spindle]

press F to stealth and agrro dump on team

[ripe obsidian]

what about die quickly and painfully?

felt bad for my bull rush oggy player

Purple ragers ignore that, too

[fluid knot]

Anti-CC modifier is like... fine... but it probably shouldnt effect ults

[spice aurora]

https://tenor.com/view/samurai-samuraijack-forhonor-gif-7725087

Me with my dclaw before I load into the dreg rager seed

I never realized how far up samurai jacks face is lmao

[vast smelt]

massive chin

[spice aurora]

Crimson chin runner up

[dull scroll]

who does that reminds me of 🤔

[ripe obsidian]

2.5m damage in a 34 minute game

purple is stupid

Would've been a <30 damage taken game, I think, but there was a burster that I think everyone on the team was like, "Someone else'll get that."

[zealous wing]

HAH i finally screenshotted both voicelines...

[zealous wing]

oof

classic though

[ripe obsidian]

I was one of those people.

[zealous wing]

i need to practice pushing them with my trauma more

[ripe obsidian]

We were all basically equidistant

And we all shared the one braincell

[zealous wing]

well yeah im not blaming your team and not you

its just a common moment of pure trust that goes wrong

[ripe obsidian]

Our TH zealot did a pleasant amount of bonking. I did, unfortunately, heal them to full at one point

Twins spawned alongside a wall of armor

I panic threw down the medkit

and then none of us got hit

[zealous wing]

oof lol

better safe than sorry though

[ripe obsidian]

It was right after the elevator near the end of Dark Communion, so nowhere to kite to

and there was a DH at the far side of the bridge

so, uh

felt needed

[zealous wing]

i doubt they were mad

[ripe obsidian]

That ogryn was really good at kiting with taunt. It was impressive.

[ripe obsidian]

I have only blown up... 1 burster on my team with trauma recently.

However, I have been struggling with survival myself this past week. Maybe overtired, maybe something else, but I have been eating a lot of nets and overheads I feel like I normally wouldn't. Plus loads of chip damage and such from not particularly good positioning.

[crisp ether]

during one of those games we played, i got sandwiched by two bursters and one wouldn't explode so i had to spam push and my stamina got broken because of it :(

excise vault run with the two stealots was fun tho

[rigid sky]

this event is a lot of fun with venting shriek

so many cdr stimms

and the pox gas just refills your peril every time

[crisp oriole]

playing LMB electro staff build makes my fingers hurt

but its strong, I have been best DD in almost every match

[tepid python]

What's the trick to void strike, it sucks

[jovial juniper]

1- hit heads (psykers can't aim 🗣️ )
2 - use another staff

[weary crane]

Give voidstrike secondary infinite cleave

[plucky flax]

So real

[zinc phoenix]

I use it as a revolver equivalent with a pocket taser and primarily melee

The alternative is too painful

[cosmic sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/lucifer-lucifer69-luciferauction-gif-21825542

also, can you give me you ek build six?

I might try staff again

[summer prairie]

did they fix the dark communion bugged spawn

[summer prairie]

Seems like it's a proper priority spawn now so you won't get moved and keep spawning there until you go quite a bit forward

[deft stump]

Eh?

[hearty wolf]

You've never had it on dark communion? The part just before the ambush

There's a res spot by the stairs iirc

But whenever you get close to rescue your team

They just teleport into the ambush instead

It's pretty fucked up

I assume that's what Syllo is talking about anyway

[deft stump]

More wondering what priority spawn means.

[deft stump]

Likely or if we did, I didn't notice.

[summer prairie]

Some spawn beacons are marked priority, like ones during events. I think

Not sure what the exact difference is

[hearty wolf]

I guess to test you'd be no clip

Activate an event and then die and respawn

See if it puts you back at the event or the closest spawn

I would assume the priority spawn just means it's tied to the event flag

As a safety measure in case you end up spawning elsewhere/ someone who is really far behind dies and they might end up at a spawn ahead of the event if two spawns are close together

[upbeat kestrel]

also sparkheads

did you see?

https://www.theverge.com/tech/875309/discord-age-verification-global-roll-out

[marble crater]

Shortly after they had a data breach
Good thing I don't pay for nitro anymore, otherwise I would cancel it now

[upbeat kestrel]

never payed for nitro ever

only got it gifted to me like twice

[zealous wing]

protip: dont update your mobile app. my PC wont let me access age restricted channels, but my phone will

just make sure autoupdate is off

[deft stump]

They will force you to update sooner or later. Discord on final version supported on my S4 stopped working like 5 years back.

And I don't mean crashing from lag or anything.

[marble crater]

Just have mature conversations in channels that aren't age restricted

[ripe obsidian]

You cannot make me be mature.

[crisp oriole]

I tried inferno staff with shriek and I gotta admit that its a strongest build in the game

[ripe obsidian]

It is goofy

[ripe obsidian]

You could drop Soulstealer or Quietude if you want Empyric Shock, but I value being immortal more than I value the extra damage

I was getting ~15% more damage overall on H40 maulers and reapers in my testing, iirc

the stick I use is warp nexus + surge, flak + maniac

[cosmic sigil]

and the melee?

[ripe obsidian]

FGS

[cosmic sigil]

riposte unstable?

[ripe obsidian]

I prefer Shred, but Riposte might honestly be better for this use case

[cosmic sigil]

fgs without attack speed, i don't think i can

[ripe obsidian]

Eh, I mostly use it for poking specials/crushers/bosses

And sometimes cutting my way out of hordes

EK has shitty horde clear if Shriek is down

[cosmic sigil]

o so deimos fine then

[ripe obsidian]

I was using Obscurus for a while

[ripe obsidian]

Swapped to FGS mostly for those situations where I need to hack down some poxwalkers

Which happens like 1x a game, I guess

It depends a lot on team comp

If I have a solid Ogryn, melee is rarely necessary. If I have a solo player Arby, any kind of scum, a stealth zealot, etc., then I am much more likely to end up with trash enemies chewing on my ankles

[cosmic sigil]

wait so you could use illisi or even hsword

[ripe obsidian]

If you wanted to

[zealous wing]

assail weak guys

cant damage carapace, terrible blitz

[rigid sky]

FGS has much better anti elite and anti armour than Illisi and Heavy Swords

And I like it better for multi target than Illisi too, Illisi's activation is too clunky

Is it just me or are a lot of Psyker players weirdly tribal about staff vs gun

[jagged tendon]

what cosmetic is this one - does anyone know?
https://postimg.cc/1gBjB7wL

[ripe obsidian]

Are they? I don't see a lot of arguments about it

[ripe obsidian]

Acolyte's

[jagged tendon]

🔥

[rigid sky]

Reddit people mainly lol

[sinful olive]

I used to be, just view them as another tool these days. I like guns most on psyker when they aren't the main source of damage output, like with bubble knight or other similar builds.

[rigid sky]

It's the murder cannon

[sinful olive]

Of course back when I felt that way psyker was way the fuck different

[rigid sky]

Burn resources on killing incredibly fast

But you have other resources for efficient killing too

[sinful olive]

Yeah, exactly

[crisp oriole]

I cant upload images here?

I wanted to share my kill score lol, had crazy match

[tepid crypt]

I think you gotta chat more, you're new

[clear hollow]

did they change how assail works with empowered psionics? i seem to remember that the key stone, once gained in game, would allow you to throw shards with abandon as it didnt cost anything. now it seems that it only gives you one freebie

[crisp oriole]

eh gotcha

anyway I got 1.5k score with inferno staff which is 1.5 times more than my previous record

big numbars make brain feel good

[thorn cedar]

one free throw per charge

with the charge gained on elite kill you can spam them out

[clear hollow]

thats actually ass and not worth the talent point

[thorn cedar]

its fun but DD strictly outdoes it

[clear hollow]

ig ill just stick to my empowered head pop build. shame too since assail is fun to play

[verbal thistle]

Not really

A situation that favors EP compared to dd comes quite often

More likely in difficulty but being able to spam nearly infinite assail over a long sustained elite group is very worthwhile

Extremely good for dreg enemies and both shotgunners

I have a clip somewhere where I was just throwing assail for like 20 seconds straight into a shotgunner horde that kept coming

[umbral hamlet]

Evening varlets, hope everyones good. Sorry if this is the wrong channel but I was jw if anyone could join a private game to help me complete malleus monstronum please? Happy to help with anything I can or just grind some matches etc

[verbal thistle]

If no one responds, you can use the LFG channels and ask on your region for help

https://discord.com/channels/727074276724965407/1045597890472579075

[umbral hamlet]

Thank you i might give that a try soon, appreciate it

[unkempt panther]

Try a assail shriek warp siphon build, similar concept, feels good, you do spend only half your time or less throwing shards, and the remaining in melee, with whatever staff you want (e.g. electro).

That's my favorite "spam" assail build,

[zinc phoenix]

It’s actually pretty good, you can still mow down shotgunner, dog, rager etc blobs with ease. You just can’t walk thru the level constantly shitting shards annihilating anything that isn’t carapace. I use a Scriers gaze build with ep assail and a left click oriented EK stick and have been going thru content fine. It won’t carry you thru h40 but I’ve gotten thru havocs, events etc with it

[tepid python]

So headshots are the secret to void strike performing like a normal stave?

[verbal thistle]

Yeah

What's why gaze and destiny work very well with it

It likes finesse

[tepid python]

🤔

I never played much with it, maybe I should try it more

[verbal thistle]

It's a good combo with a melee focus build

Since melee builds often already take gaze and destiny

And it can cover anti specials and gunners

And has decent stagger if need be

[zealous wing]

it does make for some fun moments though

[zealous wing]

you still need?

[umbral hamlet]

Yes please 🙏 I'll be on in about 30 mins if you're still free

[zealous wing]

sadly im not, im heading to bed, but i can absolutely help tomorrow

thought i had more energy but its been a busy day for me

[umbral hamlet]

Haha yeah that's no worries mate i know the feeling, thank you though ill hopefully catch you tomorrow, have a good night varlet

[zealous wing]

thanks, have a good one

[crisp oriole]

today is a really good day for my psyker

I broke score record twice today, last one was 2k kills in a single mission

it all thanks to guide in pinned lol, I copied shriek inferno build from there

[marble crater]

The humble inferno shriek build

[rich spindle]

Needs buffs

[ripe obsidian]

buff psyker pls

too weak

bones too brittle

[crisp oriole]

we need buff that makes psykers invulnerable to melee attacks too on dealing crits

immortal scrier gaze psyker when

[narrow herald]

Isn't this the case already?

😈

[deft stump]

Monkey paw curls, warp elite/special kills grant 1 sec melee and ranged immunity.

[hardy citrus]

assail weaving stocks UP

[lament topaz]

whats good to build on the greatsword

[rich spindle]

Blazing spirit

[rare storm]

What's good psychos, haven't played in 2 years, did psyker staves get a full rework? and is there any big changes lmao

I chose the option to not skip the campaign so I can't really see anything

[patent jacinth]

Staves have had no significant stages

[rare storm]

[patent jacinth]

Psyker is more broken then ever though

So have fun i guess

[rare storm]

Oh real? So it's just a bunch of renaming?

That's

Kinda sad

but alright

[patent jacinth]

I mean

They're all better

[rare storm]

What changed though

[patent jacinth]

They got a talent tree

And infinite buffs

[rare storm]

oh shit

Wait staves have a talent tree now?

[patent jacinth]

No

The class does

[rare storm]

ohh okok I played after that rework came

[patent jacinth]

Or at least they have one that doesn't suck to path through

[rare storm]

I stopped right when er... I think it was the twins bosses event started

[patent jacinth]

Yeah psyker has even more ways to invalidate game mechanics and difficulty now

[rare storm]

Oh shit bet

Okay so electrokinetic is surge, inferno is purgatus and voidblast is trauma

right

I thought awhile back we had rumours for new staves

[deft stump]

Maybe you are reading VT2 rumors.

[rare storm]

Man that's sad

I think not...? To be fair I only kept up in vt2 for the necromancer

o well

[deft stump]

But beeg sword funni and gud.

[rare storm]

Oh yeah shit did we get a great force sword

oh fuck we did

Okay betttttttttttt

[rich spindle]

I’m it blazing spirit on it

*put

[rare storm]

is DD still broken or does it actually work properly now btw

Before it used to just not give stacks when you kill a marked enemy (or if one even gets marked)

[deft stump]

Is hilariously fast for it's size. Put unyielding and cara on it because it stronk already.

[rare storm]

Oh sick say less, okay I just need to redownload a bunch of my outdated ass mods and do the campaign

Any dump stat for the greatsword?

[deft stump]

The classic. Warp resist.

[rare storm]

op just saw the pinned message, all good

ahh ye alright

[deft stump]

Marks is to taste.

6 is slightly better dpswise on ST.

[rich spindle]

Only with blazing spirit

[rare storm]

Sick good to know

Feels like I haven't missed much but alot at the same time over the 2 years

[deft stump]

Well, not much added, lul, if you think about it.

Also, do not blazing spirit on it whatever you do.

That thing KILLS on crit.

[rare storm]

LMAO

Sick

blazing spirit is the one that creates stacks of soulblaze ye

[deft stump]

Blazing does kark all.

[rich spindle]

If blazing spirit is bad why does the highest rated gameslantern psyker build use it?

Checkmate

[deft stump]

On crit.

[rare storm]

Wth is games lantern

[deft stump]

Doesn't do jack if target dies first.

[rare storm]

Oh it's not a who it's a site

[deft stump]

Site with shitty public builds.

[rare storm]

tf that's new

[deft stump]

Like 99% of stuff there public is like malice lvl builds.

[rare storm]

ye nah, that'll never change

A while back there was a youtuber who took random pubs loadouts and made vids about them saying they were NEW OP STRONGEST SETUP TO RUN

[deft stump]

Which makes no sense considering everything but bosses and crushers outright dies to random crits.

[rare storm]

[deft stump]

On malice.

And even then, random sf knoife 1 shot back headstab works.

[rich spindle]

Next you’re gonna tell me not to use +2 stamina and deflector 🙄

[rare storm]

To be fair I didn't make it that far into auric

Wait is malice base auric

[deft stump]

Deflector is a choice. +2 stam is generally why.

[rare storm]

Or is that just no where near auric

[deft stump]

In order of difficulty.

[rich spindle]

More deflection. Simple as

[rare storm]

I only remember doing maelstrom and auric missions

[deft stump]

Uprising malice heresy damnation auric.

[rare storm]

oh tf

[deft stump]

Just get KD.

[rich spindle]

I need that point for wildfire to spread blazing spirit

[rare storm]

Is wildfire still ass

I remember it only spreads a small stack of soulblaze

[verbal thistle]

it never really was bad

[rich spindle]

It’s the strongest talent ever created

[verbal thistle]

its a combo talent

you need to have other talets/weapons to make it work

and when it does, its great

and with current psyker its amazing

[rare storm]

hmmmmm aiteee good to know

[ripe obsidian]

Let's say Wildfire spreads 1 stack to a nearby enemy who you then Shriek at

6 stacks is 24 base damage

7 is 32

So that 1 stack from Wildfire in this single instance, not counting other use cases, is a 33% damage increase

Wildfire is really strong when paired with a source of Soulblaze beyond just Perilous Combustion

And yet, like 60% of the random Psykers I inspect in Party Finder don't use it with Purgatus.

I am pretty positive Vect doesn't, either. Setting a bad example.

[deft stump]

Was funny when a boss walked right into a horde and melted.

[dull scroll]

Wildfire's value have a inverse relation with the amount of soulblaze your build do

it have the greatest value on blaze trauma, or if you just have shriek and no other SB source

if you have shriek AND inferno the thing have almost 0 value

[ripe obsidian]

I strongly disagree with that argument

Wildfire allows you to stack more quickly, stack on enemies around corners or in doors, get KF pops on specials you never saw, get more stacks of WS, and so on.

It has a significant impact on horde clear speed

[dull scroll]

on inferno/shriek the thing have almost 0 value added for horde clear
you shriek at 85 peril entire screen is at 6+ stacks instantly
PC and inferno will maintain whatever comes at 4+ stacks
what exactly is wildfire going to spread to

[ripe obsidian]

The enemies who are not yet in range and the enemies that have dropped below 4 stacks

If an enemy walks into your 15m range with 2-4 stacks already on them, they die that much faster

[rich spindle]

You have a point imagining what it does in theory but in real inferno shriek games I don’t see it doing much (when I played with debuff stacks on showing me everything through walls)

The real answer on its dps impact is very map and scenario dependent

[ripe obsidian]

I play with debuff stacks and I see the impact pretty regularly

Wildfire spreads like crazy, and it also spreads before Perilous Combustion on elites

So every elite killed can spread 4-7 stacks instead of just 3

[rich spindle]

I’ll try some games with it again. But really in the end I’d say inferno shriek already trivializes the game to a point where stuff like wildfire doesn’t matter

Try plying a game with a grey 300 power inferno, feels 90% the same lol

[dull scroll]

it's all about the soulblaze stacks, staff stats doesn't affect it I don't think 🤷

[ripe obsidian]

It does

Burn stat

Affects max stacks and rapidity of stack application

[rich spindle]

I played with 56% burn stat staff and did 2 mil lol

Shriek and pc carried it past 12 or whatever it had max stacks

[ripe obsidian]

Inferno without Shriek is kinda lackluster tbh

[rich spindle]

Yeah you can still solo the ultra dense mailer waves but not every single room like with shriek

[ripe obsidian]

I mean, even on my LMB EK builds, Shriek is like half my damage. It's so strong.

[full river]

What are god rolls for great sword and inferno staff stat wise?

[ripe obsidian]

Dump Warp Resist

60 or lower WR, 80 in the rest. On both

[full river]

What does it do?

[ripe obsidian]

If you click inspect on the weapon, it will show you the details

It's peril generated per action

[crisp ether]

I think Wildfire works for a blazing spirit force sword even if it's kind of a meme setup to begin with

[full river]

I don't have the game open atm sorry

[full river]

Isn't it stacking passive effects from damage?

Or is that some old concept they updated?

[full river]

I think I heard about some stacks somewhere being connected to warp resistance

I am asking in advance cuz I plan to play the class at some point and wanna craft stuff at low levels to have best chance at getting the best stat rolls

[verbal thistle]

dont roll for perfect weapons until level 30

the shop is weighted against rolling 4 80's and 1 60 until you are level 30

plus it rolls at lower power level so it costs more materials to fully empower

[ripe obsidian]

I don't understand what you mean. Warp Resist is the stat that governs the amount of peril you generate per peril-generating action on that weapon. Some talents have bonuses based on your peril level, but that is separate

[unkempt panther]

It always worked, but there was a visual bug that meant you often didn't see your stacks on the buff bar.

[full river]

Okay

Thanks

[full river]

I don't necessarily want 4x 80 and 60 tho I am asking about inflection points

[verbal thistle]

inflection points? I'm confused

[keen granite]

For the gun crit build what the best gun to use

[verbal thistle]

whatever you like

most common is recon las, infantry auto

I sometimes use double barrel

[full river]

The staff is for minion clear right? As long as it can kill hordes in the same speed as 4x 80 60 at lower value it's good for me

[deft stump]

You want it to kill more than JUST chaff.

[verbal thistle]

I think I understand now, you want the baseline stats.That makes the staff perform its roll. Not exactly the min-maxed ones

if so, then it still is, all 4 stats at 80 and then warp res 60 or lower

[full river]

Does it kill carapace? Isn't it just for applying debuffs before swapping to the great sword?

[unkempt panther]

Inflection points kinda exist for damage stats. 399 damage to a mob with 400 hit points means you need 2 hits, vs 401 damage to the same mob. We often call them breakpoints. Of course, that heavily depends on a lot of aspects of your build, what buffs are up, etc.

[full river]

Yeah this

[verbal thistle]

Haven't seen it used before for darktide

[ripe obsidian]

Are there any weapons besides, like, the plasma gun that have meaningful non 80/60 rolls?

[verbal thistle]

ripper gun

[ripe obsidian]

I have never used it

[ripe obsidian]

My understanding is that any measurement of breakpoints went away after Havoc released due to the health boosts for every enemy type. Like, I recall Path building Rashad to one-bop bruisers, but now?

[full river]

What about test ground hp?

Does it differ from havoc games?

If so that's kinda stupid lol

😭

[ripe obsidian]

Yes

You need mods to get havoc HP in the Psykhanium

[full river]

I can get mods

[deft stump]

66% ammo to 1 bullet per stack of blazeaway.

[ripe obsidian]

You'll want Creature Spawner, Healthbars, and Solo Play for Havoc enemies in the Psykhanium

[deft stump]

You want the rest in collateral.

[ripe obsidian]

Funky.

[deft stump]

67% means 2 shots per stack of blaze away.

If poor, just dump ammo.

[unkempt panther]

I guess if you play havoc, yea, nevermind.

[ripe obsidian]

The HP boosts in Havoc are:

• 10-50% additional special/elite HP
• 10-70% additional monster HP
• 10-30% additional horde enemy HP

But then Havoc modifiers add things like 50-89% ranged damage reduction, or +100% HP, or 60% damage reduction and override armor type to carapace, and so on.

Not to mention hitmass increases and whatever else.

Calculating breakpoints for Havoc is just not worth the time investment, imo.

[ripe obsidian]

Oh, because the magazine is bigger?

[deft stump]

Mhm.

So you want 60-66% ammo, rest in collateral.

[full river]

Makes sense

[lament topaz]

does venting shriek count for the blessed by fate penance

and could i just use crystaline will

[verbal thistle]

What's the penance requirements?

[lament topaz]

"use psykinetics wrath to survive perils of the warp 50 times"

[verbal thistle]

yes venting shriek does count

[lament topaz]

baller

thankfully i can just use smite to farm high peril

wish it was a little more useful but oh well

[lament topaz]

okay so surely this doesnt make it harder to do the penance

[deft stump]

It does, you don't take that chasing the penance.

[lament topaz]

gotcha

i hope ive been doin it right ive just been hitting the scream as he stops casting

they did not count

smite doesnt trigger Perils

[fading hedge]

You explode when casting at 100

To stop the overload you then shriek, thats what the pennance wants you to do

So if you are smiting, and hit 100, your next cast will overload you

[lament topaz]

i tried for like 5 minutes to get myself to pop in the psykanum and it didnt go over 100

[fading hedge]

I dont think base game psykanium lets you explode

Try it in a match

[lament topaz]

it does it just doesnt kill you

smite didnt do the bit where he grabs his head

so ill just use bb

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[deft stump]

Because smite has babby mode auto quell at the end.

You are better off doing Assail with quick cd shards or EK rmb build.

[sharp island]

So do you guys have any tips on a smite build?

[rich spindle]

take 3 wounds because you are a support class. always smite poxwalkers because they are the biggest threat when they surround your team, if you smite them they cant surround you

[sharp island]

Any particular ability and like nodes?

[rich spindle]

yeah use it with bubble for even more support

[ripe obsidian]

=|

[ripe obsidian]

I have many builds in the pinned guide.

[sharp island]

[deft stump]

Someone needs a shot to the head, right?

[unkempt panther]

Probably repeating what others here have already said;
My tip is: dont.
Certain smite builds are very powerful in certain ways, achieving near 100% uptime for “stun the whole screen”, but this is abusive, and worst of all, boring, boring for you, and boring for your teammates. Also also, it often slows down high level games substantially, taking longer to complete the level, making it more boring

It will also stunt your own growth at learning the game, melee, blocking, dodging, sliding. It’s a crutch that will hurt your ability to learn the game, and likely make your teammates hate you at high difficulties.

[crisp ether]

out here about to ruin the new generation of psykers 😭

[unkempt panther]

Btw, in case it wasn’t clear, this is an instance of trolling. You never take 3 wound curios ever, except maybe martyrdom zealot.

[verbal thistle]

not even martyrdom

[unkempt panther]

Well, since they changed it recently

What is it, one or two now?

[deft stump]

Martyrdom is 2 wounds.

[verbal thistle]

2

[crisp ether]

Two.

Dos.

[ripe obsidian]

Two (2)

[crisp ether]

II

[verbal thistle]

Zwei

[unkempt panther]

Deux

[crisp ether]

二

[ripe obsidian]

https://giphy.com/gifs/sesame-street-two-number-OxeCmRsZsXSCI

[unkempt panther]

Lmfao

[fading hedge]

I can only count to 4

[unkempt panther]

One, two, three, many.

[ripe obsidian]

‘Everyone knows trolls can’t even count up to four!’*

*In fact, trolls traditionally count like this: one, two, three, many, and people assume this means they can have no grasp of higher numbers. They don’t realise that many can BE a number. As in: one, two, three, many, many-one, many-two, many-three, many many, many-many-one, many-many-two, many-many-three, many many many, many-many-many-one, many-many-many-two, many-many-three, LOTS.

[dull scroll]

😏

[rich spindle]

see? 3 wound smite support psyker

go ahead and run it

apply to havocs

[fading hedge]

Swing and a miss

[unkempt panther]

I gotta update one curio then for that build, lol

[ripe obsidian]

It's a Discworld quote.

[fading hedge]

Youtube "I can only count to four"

[deft stump]

Sus. Isn't that Ainz?

On Zealot?

[fading hedge]

And mine is a reference to a song

We missed both references

[dull scroll]

https://tenor.com/view/trying-not-to-laugh-holding-back-a-laugh-sure-okay-yeah-gif-6398092109038538495

[unkempt panther]

Yeah, I haven’t played it in a while, my martyrdom zealot still has 3 curio wounds

[ripe obsidian]

Another great force sword on my damn alt

[deft stump]

Or am I confused?

[deft stump]

This is normal.

Your mains will always have -90% luck compared to alts.

[rich spindle]

no thats the one handed force sword

[ripe obsidian]

oh shit, you're right

And here I thought they'd finally made an obscurus FGS

[deft stump]

Wait, is the laughter because that was ACTUALLY SOMEONE ELSE?

[unkempt panther]

I mean, it is a great roll, and a great sword, but not a great sword

[deft stump]

Maybe I should go back to bed.

Trying to H40 with rubberbanding is saner.

[unkempt panther]

I definitely do not run 3 wounds psyker ever. I would sepoku first

[deft stump]

I run +9 stam.

[dull scroll]

if I remember correctly 3 wounds on marty lets you come back from Until Death with 2 wounds, 2 you in grey screen

certain stealth zeal I know swears on the 3 wound 😏

[fading hedge]

The sad thing is, he has not responded so he might be setting up a 3 wound psyker and we can do nothing to stop it.

[deft stump]

Your friend?

[dull scroll]

maybe 🙂‍↕️

[unkempt panther]

Still more defensible than 9 wounds. I tried running all block efficiency and kinetic deflection and deflector once for the lols, and then I remembered that blocking doesn’t kill things in the game (and overheads exist), which make it not good.

[deft stump]

It's a meme build more than anything.

[unkempt panther]

Look at the evil we have wrought unto the world.

[fading hedge]

9 wounds sound amazing! You will never die!

[deft stump]

Tank pogryn or DH for ages, yep.

[deft stump]

Maybe?

[unkempt panther]

Daemonhost tank forever yeah

[deft stump]

And I know cos I have a build made for semi-AFK tanking DH.

Just 5-6mins in a corner holding block and venting at 95%.

You get like 2.5% peril every 4 attacks.

Maybe less.

[unkempt panther]

Time dodges right, and you don’t even need vent or the block efficiency, I think.

[deft stump]

Yes, but that's active.

[unkempt panther]

lol

[deft stump]

That above is lazy not care about 400 ping.

[unkempt panther]

I still wish I ran more scriers or dd builds because I love kd

[dull scroll]

never mind, guy just said nothing to do with grey screen, quality of life thing, 2 wound you come back from UD without full marty stacks

[deft stump]

I just point tax my way there.

[unkempt panther]

I sometimes do too, but it’s hard to justify and I usually don’t

[deft stump]

Especially with +9 stam.

[unkempt panther]

Lmfao

[deft stump]

Don't ask me, I take less peril damage the more stam I have.

IDK if it's just me or something.

[unkempt panther]

I still wish kinetic deflection was more central, like next to empathic evasion (or in place of empathic evasion).

[deft stump]

Is why greatsword is better than normal for funni block.

[unkempt panther]

My blocks per game is still like 10, so it’s hard to justify, although everyone once and a while if I run it, I find myself
Overwhelmed and blocking for days while I try to reposition, and that block counter might go up to iirc like 50

I guess I should consider more scriers builds, especially now that it also quells 50 peril.

What tips or tricks do you have for not blowing yourself up from casting just after the lingering period of scriers?

One of the things that scares me off of it is that I think I would blow myself up too often.

[verbal thistle]

You have mods?

Numeric ui?

[deft stump]

7 ragers took forever to get me to 50% lul.

[verbal thistle]

I have a mental timer myself for warp unbound

But when I am unsure I check how long until I have gaze back

With no cdr involved my gaze would have 15 seconds left until it's back and that's when WU wears off

But if I have been killing elites and specials with PA I know I can push it to 10-8 seconds left

[deft stump]

Me? I just never take it. I know I have to 1 100% and that's it, lul.

[verbal thistle]

If my timer for gaze is at 10 sec before I reach 100% peril I know I am safe

[deft stump]

Also, remind me to delete that slot. I got trauma bringing a gunker build with purga+deimos.

[deft stump]

I saw that.

[rich spindle]

https://tenor.com/view/anger-management-jack-nicholson-yes-duh-nods-gif-5222702

[fading hedge]

You agent of chaos you....wait a minute!

[ripe obsidian]

no, that's @plucky flax

[fading hedge]

there can be more than one

[ripe obsidian]

@rich spindle

"• While charging, puts Arbitrator in is_blocking state against melee and ranged attacks which allows to proc talents Retaliatory Force and Shield Plates
• While charging, allows Arbitrator to automatically dodge Pox Hound's pounce and Trapper's net"

[azure parcel]

Hello spark'eads, what blessings do you put on taxe7 when pairing with trauma staff

[dull scroll]

why would you pair it with the trauma staff

[azure parcel]

Let's just say I want to play it safe as hell

[dull scroll]

knife is prob your best bet for the safest option

if you have to taxe headtaker and brutal momentum

[azure parcel]

Ok ty

Could consider knife too I guess, I just want taxe's staggering combo

[zealous wing]

but... but the trauma staff is THE stagger staff...

[azure parcel]

.

[zealous wing]

i personally find trauma extremely safe, but then something high mobility would work

ive used Dueling sword, and knife, haven't tried taxe to see how effective it is when i need to kill a mutant quickly

rending trauma alone

(then also assail, then knife)

then theres blazing trauma

if you can kill a mutant quickly with the taxe, then go for it

but dont underestimate the safety a stagger stick provides you can get away with a lot

[ripe obsidian]

@rich spindle

"I have bad news. None of us have long-range weapons, so there's only one thing to do."
"I have a long-range--"

[rich spindle]

hahahahah

[ripe obsidian]

That game was anarchy. 10/10, would do again.

[wind spruce]

Based trauma play

[rare storm]

Nahh when it just came out it flat out didn’t work, but aye good to know it’s working now

[summer prairie]

Abhuman explosions event. It's basically the old Ogryn event, so ogryn hordes and ogryn boss spawns and on top of that 10% chance of regening grenades on elite kills, more grenaderiers, more poxbursters, all explosive barrels, bulwarks have a 50% chance of dropping on ogryn grenade on death

Hmm

[runic canyon]

How do I become good at psyker

[ruby bloom]

run all the vitality perks exccept the left one

this is kinda needed

this is massive and will absolutely save you

Warp ghost isnt everyones most loved but honeslty its really good for keeping high peril

[wind spruce]

No perilous?

[ruby bloom]

The +4% toughness per 10%?

[marble crater]

The combustion

[wind spruce]

Warpfire on elite/special kil

[ruby bloom]

It’s honestly not going to do as much as wildfire especially if running fire staff already

[marble crater]

oh no

[wind spruce]

Perilous is what lets you scale past 16 stacks

[ruby bloom]

Yes it’s taking you over max stacks etc etc

[wind spruce]

Its an always pick on soulblaze builds

And most other builds tbh

[marble crater]

It allows you to start chain reactions with kinetic flayer

[ruby bloom]

Idk I don’t find it extremely useful with fire staff

But I run it with void build because I won’t run warp siphon

And use empowered instead

Because yeah chaining fire

[wind spruce]

Its not a utility pick it primarily scales your soulblaze up

[marble crater]

If anything Wildfire is the utility pick

[ruby bloom]

I can say just by numbers I do not find a massive tangible difference when running staff

Maybe like 200k difference out of 2m

[jovial juniper]

So it's Captain Winters for dogs

Or rather

Radio Operator

For dogs

[ruby bloom]

Wildfire is also kinda just cannon fodder for mid pick

[wind spruce]

Idk if you can really evaluate it like that. Too much variation between games. You'd need a very high n to say if its worth it or not from scoreboards

[ruby bloom]

Idk most heavy damage I’m doing is with melee so realistically I don’t rely so much on Dot as I do getting peril to 100% and having extra DoT on top of my melee

[wind spruce]

The power of it is oh those three ragers just died now the rest of the pack has 9 more soulblaze stacks

It just keeps your stacks cycling up and up with high density, including when you're between inferno casts

[ruby bloom]

100%

[summer prairie]

I think the packmaster stuff might be for the next major update rather than a live event

[ruby bloom]

I just don’t personally see its massive use unless it’s elite havoc and it makes enough sense to dump towards rupture

Cuz siphon and shriek basically do the same thing but better average stacks and always when you need it

[wind spruce]

Second pet class

[ruby bloom]

Sadly with a little less combo because I’ve gotta drop peril but if I’m using the great sword problem solved

[wind spruce]

Fatshark mad everyone runs lone wolf

[jovial juniper]

Next Major update
All missions are hunting grounds

[summer prairie]

it's definitely enemies though

[jovial juniper]

Two names

[ruby bloom]

Gas event added to havoc modifiers

“They already take stims” GAS AS WELL

[jovial juniper]

Finally, playable havoc

[ruby bloom]

oh right

Uhhh balance it by making medical stations just not spawn at all and stims have a 50% chance to spawn to beast of nurlge already vomiting

And sefoni is there too

[jovial juniper]

Thrown in purple just because

[ruby bloom]

I’m not going to lie, psyker and hive scum are overpowered as fuck together right now

bubble can make hive scum basically unkillable

Idk how not nerfing pocket change was in the cards but buffing an infinitely stacking buff was

[summer prairie]

I think psyker again gets the full dodge linger time benefit vs ranged from anticipation

[jovial juniper]

Another 500 psyker buffs

[summer prairie]

Well it looked like it at first glance but it seems dodge_linger_time_modifier is only used for melee linger now

so guess not

not sure if intentional, only the broker dodge linger node affects ranged too

[jovial juniper]

I'll believe it's intentional

[summer prairie]

I wonder if Houndmaster is a new general boss

probably not

[deft stump]

I think is just an event patrol of an oggy and like 2-5 hounds.

Maybe the ability to force extra dog spawns.

[summer prairie]

Guess some new mode soon

The houndmasters have names like Captains so it does point towards them being a boss. There's also a string "Dog-house showdown"

[rigid sky]

Oh sick

Can't wait to see that

More maps and more enemy types are what we need most of ATM I think

Plasma gunners are cool but feel a tiny bit half-baked idk

[summer prairie]

at least 15 different names for pack masters/houndmasters

not sure if the same thing even

[zinc phoenix]

Where is this? It’s new?!

[zealous wing]

ye brand new

[zealous wing]

over this way

[zinc phoenix]

It’s not an event, they only rework the lobby for game modes or vendors

I still remember the shock of the new vendor layout 😂

[deft stump]

I wonder if they will be a captain subtype?

[lapis terrace]

psyker best class

[unkempt panther]

I see. Sorry.

[zinc phoenix]

Lord knows we could use a captain that isn’t literally the sole unique asset on the only map the game launched with

[sturdy reef]

Wait

Scummer got buffed even more

Tf

No downside to rampage now

The toughness stimm lab changes are good tho. That branch is still meh

[deft stump]

That is a buff that is perfectly fine.... Rampage one is like the Rawket Lawnchair buff. Just why?

[sturdy reef]

Ya ik

[deft stump]

I wonder if they were getting too many refunds on the class.

Unlike Arby.

[rigid sky]

Idk who though, scum is the most fun class Darktide's ever had imo

Just me personally, but I've been in love with it since release

[deft stump]

Everyone has their tastes, and when you go from a class even a kid can play to this, I can see the complains asking for it to be more usable for their skill lvl.

Even when we all know the class is hilariously busted beyond means unless 300-400 ping.

[fluid knot]

Oh no, a class that had at least a modicum of skill floor, better change that as soon as possible

Other than Desperado, fuck that stupid shit

[deft stump]

Well, the floor is already higher than ever if you wanted to melee.

Only thing stopping one is high ping, but that's a thing only a few are subject to.

[rare storm]

@deft stump ho shit you didn't say anything about the force gs being able to shoot a infinite cleave FORCE SLASH

INSANE

This is my new favourite weapon

[deft stump]

Oh yeah, btw, with puncture bistol, if you swap to it while the slash is flying, everything gets bleed stacks.

I actually forgot to mention it since it's stonks already even before that, lul.

[rare storm]

Oh what the hell broken as hell

[sullen nacelle]

It should work with the Las gun that sets people on fire, too.

[rare storm]

I just got a usable one so I'm gona roll with that

[sullen nacelle]

So long as you force a crit

[rare storm]

Oh shit bet

[deft stump]

It is, just don't abooze it too hard or you ruin the fun of others.

Just something you put in the pocket for clutches or when the team is extremely awful.

[rare storm]

I can see why

I also see why you said it swings stupidly fast for it's size and damage

It's crazy

[rare storm]

This used to be what the purgatus was for me

[sullen nacelle]

How does this playout:

• Greatsword with Soulfire on crit
• Greatsword with crit on special
• lasgun with fire on crit

Does your wave lose the soul fire on crit when swapping?

[rare storm]

Now I can have two broken things

Insane

[deft stump]

Is why, no need flak or maniac, just cara and unyielding.

With SG and such, you already hit hilariously hard.

Only thing that won't die to a non-minmaxxed crit is a crusher or a boss.

[zealous wing]

your wave wont apply blaze

[rare storm]

Yeah I definitely need to grind more for a good one

I got one with precog

It's overkill af

[deft stump]

Just mastery lvls and hadron.

You can just swap whatever you want.

[jovial juniper]

It doesn't play out

Because Blazing Spirit doesn't apply to the Warp wave

[rare storm]

Is it not capped at 2 anymore?

[deft stump]

You only need to care about base max stats.

[deft stump]

Yep. Freely swappable.

[rare storm]

WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT

[deft stump]

If you have dockets.

[rare storm]

THAT'S CRAZY

[marble crater]

It doesn't

[deft stump]

Just need to get mastery lvls and put points into them.

[rare storm]

Damn gone are the days of farming for that 360/360 with 2 bis