psyker-class

[knotty saddle]

gratz

[runic canyon]

Literally how do you intend to tank horde though?

[thorn cedar]

lmao

"you can't tank a horde" = i take damage from hordes = i havent learned the basics yet

im loving this current event tbh

mind in motion + just a dream + one with the warp = superman breathing in that kryptonite gas meme

[radiant frigate]

MY FAVORITE

[radiant frigate]

you deal damage to them until they stop moving

[runic canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/inconceivable-princessbride-impossible-gif-5806265

[radiant frigate]

and when they stop moving, they cannot hurt you anymore

now the key here is that you yourself need to keep moving

[stone roost]

I saw someone recently apply a bunch of fire to a horde of crushers switch to force sword and spam push then they all died from what ive heard this has something to do with uncanny strike but im trying it in the meat grinder and i cant get it to work can someone explain how its done

[hollow summit]

Uncanny strike gives you rending

[stone roost]

Yeah i know that but its not increasing the fire damage by that much

So how do i get it to work

[radiant frigate]

well you do need to stack up both uncanny and soulblaze

[stone roost]

I hold a full charge of the staff on a crusher switch to sword spam push and hes still alive

[radiant frigate]

push, or push attack?

[hollow summit]

That seems excessive

[radiant frigate]

important difference

[stone roost]

Push attack

[stone roost]

But its not working though so…

[hollow summit]

Do you have the blessing on your weapon

[stone roost]

Uncanny strike… yes

[hollow summit]

You only need to get to max stacks of soul blaze

[stone roost]

So does a full charge of the fire staff not give me that

[radiant frigate]

perhaps not

[hollow summit]

I don't know actually

[radiant frigate]

not sure how many ticks that is but i do not imagine it's 15

[stone roost]

The guy i was in the game with just used the staff briefly and got it to work

[hollow summit]

Are you hitting the crusher with your push attack cuz that has limited range

Or try poking it in the head

[stone roost]

The push has 10m of range i am indeed hitting him with it

And push does trigger uncanny strike it shows up on my buffs

[deft stump]

Your build+peril might be different.

[hollow summit]

Maybe your staff is shit then

[stone roost]

Its 500

[stone roost]

Wdym

[deft stump]

Peril % can affect damage. Also you might be running a different build from them.

[stone roost]

I made a build to specifically try and replicate this affect im not sure what perks id be missing

[hollow summit]

Penetrating flames

[deft stump]

Are you also riding at 80% peril the entire time?

[stone roost]

Yeah its on my staff

[hollow summit]

Welp I'm out of ideas

Inb4 guy was running kf and gibbed the crusher at half hp

[stone roost]

Just tried it and damage still isnt doing anything noticeable

At this point i could be told the guy was cheating and id believe it

[deft stump]

Did you stack to 16, shriek, then burn more before pulling out sword for uncanny? I guess stroking the sword before push atking can help push peril up.

I alse assume they have KF and was burning other things down to stack warpfire stacks.

Or PC stacks.

[stone roost]

Whats kf

[deft stump]

Kinetic Flayer.

[hollow summit]

Wildfire is capped tho

Does it add to the total

[stone roost]

Is that a weapon or skill tree perk

[hollow summit]

Talent

[deft stump]

I assume in a real game, there is a horde.

[hollow summit]

Node from brainburst

[deft stump]

It adds over.

[hollow summit]

I see

[deft stump]

Purga is capped to 16.

WF can hit 30 if big enough horde.

[stone roost]

I cant find kinetic flayer

[hollow summit]

Brain burst side node

Or brain rupture

[deft stump]

This is purely assuming a thicc thing in a pile of horde mobs.

Bit RNG but...

[stone roost]

Yeah i have kinetic flayer but heres what happened when i watched the guy because i was dead and spectating him

Massive horde of rotten armor crushers there we’re definitely elites behind because the kill feed kept going he used a short burst of warp fire staff not a full charge switched to sword spammed push then they all fell over and died

No ability was used

Im pretty sure he had shield on

[tiny kindle]

How do you get 500 power trinkets

[hollow summit]

They dont exist

[hollow summit]

Welp, wildfire i guess

[stone roost]

I have wilfire on

[hollow summit]

Horde usually means a psyker is up to their eyes in power stacks and crit buffs

Hard to replicate that in unmodded psykhanium

[deft stump]

Also PC.

Those random elites adding 3 stacks each when they die.

[stone roost]

They all died at the same time though

[deft stump]

And? PC simply adds +3 to everything near.

[stone roost]

Wdym

[deft stump]

10 will max stack a crusher.

Without any stacks.

Perilous Combustion doesn't have specific caps from memory.

It just relies on the psyker killing a special/elite.

Assuming the horde of other elites are dying, they will add to the soulblaze stacks.

[stone roost]

Oh you dont mean pc as in pc or console

[deft stump]

I don't mean that.

[hollow summit]

Perilous combustion is basically a chaining soulblaze spreader when it comes to elite hordes

[stone roost]

I have it equipped but doesn’t it require kills

Because like i said they all died at the same time

[radiant frigate]

pf is not for personal use

[stone roost]

What?

[hollow summit]

There were other elites

Fuel for the fire

[stone roost]

Behind the crushers

It was 1 horde infront of him

[hollow summit]

It is extremely easy to get the chain going if kinetic flayer is up lul

Probably knew the crushers had big stacks on them and swapped to sword to kill faster

[stone roost]

Im going to try explain this as clear as i can this was the first horde to spawn after a phase of there beibg no enemies first thing he did was spray a bit of fire then spam push no other kills were involved prior to this and they all died simultaneously

And kf only hits 1 enemy

Not a horde

[hollow summit]

Kf hits 1 elite, they die, everything in the room gets stacks of soulblaze

[stone roost]

No dude

[hollow summit]

And it chains

[stone roost]

They died “simultaneously”

All at once

No delay

[hollow summit]

Ok so how were you dead

[stone roost]

?

[hollow summit]

How did you die

[stone roost]

We were fighting a beast of nurgle about a minute earlier

Dont get how that helps explains what he did but ok

👍

[hollow summit]

Is everyone else besides him dead

[stone roost]

Only an arbites was alive other than him

[hollow summit]

Ok

[stone roost]

Alright then…

[hollow summit]

If you think the guy is cheating then report him

[cosmic sigil]

it's a sign

[stone roost]

?

Honestly i have no idea what your doing at this point

[hollow summit]

Same, you insist that you cant do this thing

But you have nothing but anecdotes

[hardy citrus]

Did you clip it?

[hollow summit]

Instead of a video

[zinc phoenix]

It’d be easier to say what happened with video yeah

[hollow summit]

And all possible explanations are being shot down

[zinc phoenix]

Otherwise your best bet is shrug and move on with life

[hollow summit]

Just report the guy then

[stone roost]

Im at that point dw

[stone roost]

Why?

[zinc phoenix]

👍

New event is mega ass

[stone roost]

Id find it funny if there was cheater im not going to report someone for it

[zinc phoenix]

I am still doing it but idk why tox gas + tox bomber hell mode was greenlit

[hollow summit]

You think he's cheating?

[stone roost]

No????

I said if he was id believe it

[hollow summit]

No then ok, conversation is over

[zinc phoenix]

This conversation has long since past the point of repetitive

[stone roost]

Yeah

[hollow summit]

Indeed

[zinc phoenix]

Anyone got a good arbie build that can ignore gas while wave clearing? I’m finding I have to solo the map while blind

[hollow summit]

You probably need new glasses then since this is psyker channel

[zinc phoenix]

Oh come off, this is where I like to hang and I know there are people with good arbie builds who are regulars in here 😂

I’ve been doing a sg build to solo the event but it’s getting old having to kill literally non stop or I fall over dead

[hollow summit]

Did you stimm yourself

[zinc phoenix]

Teammates have been stimming me while I blend

[hollow summit]

Cuz it gives you stacking gas resistance

[zinc phoenix]

Ohhhh ic

That doesn’t solve the real problem tho which is I’m fucking blind

The gas hides all as it does

[hardy citrus]

fit rebreather into a regular arbite build

[hollow summit]

Only issue I have so far is playing martyrdom

[hollow summit]

Yeah thats the bullshit part

Can't do anything bout it

[zinc phoenix]

Well you see I pretty much only psyker and really only melee psyker and I’ve been doing that for over four years. So I don’t know what the regular arbeetus builds are 😂

I played it a bit to get penances and then went back to ole reliable

[hollow summit]

Pinned in arby channel

[zinc phoenix]

Just Cole’s 6mo old builds and the trait guide

I suspect things have changed a little in 6mo

Nothing like six’s magnum opus

[hollow summit]

Naw arby hasn't changed

Cuz evidently fatshart pushed the dlc then stopped caring about the class

[vale gazelle]

i feel really stupid but like

does kinetic flayer trigger on regular attacks

[upbeat kestrel]

yes

[vale gazelle]

ohhh

explains alot

i thought it was just like a brainblast upgrade

rather than it coming out for free on a cooldown

[zinc phoenix]

and also push attacks

i love pushing a rager and having his brain explode

10/10

[marble crater]

Also soulblaze ticks

[vale gazelle]

what

[elfin thorn]

Pushing a bulwark and seeing them pop makes me laugh

[vale gazelle]

does the force sword clean block mod also work with the big sword?

the great sword

[radiant frigate]

Yes

[vale gazelle]

awesome

need that blue (very pretty) bullshit off my screen

[unkempt panther]

But not on poxbursters finally iirc

[zinc phoenix]

i will never accept losing the wacky graphics and sounds

deafen me obesefish

blind me with your excessive particle effects

i will still slay

[zinc phoenix]

ok well now that i know drugs make me immune to gas the event is much easier

i have returned to gliding through it

im also earning all the "do drugs" penances very fast

i still hate being blind but i mostly play by feel and sound anyway

[verbal thistle]

oh

thats a purg macro in my pub

https://tenor.com/view/oh-that's-real-nice-oh-that's-real-nice-gif-11258112379912459918

[prime elk]

find the nearest barrel

[knotty saddle]

whats a purg macro

[verbal thistle]

flame staff and they have a macro to attack as fast as possible

[knotty saddle]

is that... good?

idk what that really does. I know you can spam it by sprint canceling it

[verbal thistle]

idk how it compares to normal right click spam purg

but its just very cringe

at that point just dont play the game and let the macro do all inputs

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1362189611631116621/1466149457895751751/pQ7RYgQD.mp4?ex=6980f796&is=697fa616&hm=9522eccb0c5798efdf235a26a119e213f36548a34ef87abbaabb1d254eb1b36b&

not the psyker

but an example

[zinc phoenix]

I’ve seen a lot of obvious macro users on knife zel

Over the years

[weary idol]

I usually just mock them in the chat for cheating

Works well enough for me

[white sky]

There are people in arb chat who macro their entire combos

[modest perch]

there are ppl in arb chat ?

[white sky]

Its unironically been more lively than ever lately

Almost like the users people didn't want to interact with aren't there everyday anymore

[modest perch]

wonder if well get to witness another math class in there anytime soon

[white sky]

God that was funny

[modest perch]

oh yea bro that whole thing slayed me n it went on for days

i actually ran into one of the participants in a pub a while back

[cosmic sigil]

what thing?

[modest perch]

the ... incident

[cosmic sigil]

does that have a link to what's happening in the US rn?

[white sky]

Two idiots sat in arb chat arguing about scoreboard damage numbers for like 2 days or some shit

[modest perch]

... no

[cosmic sigil]

lmao

[modest perch]

yea it was hilarious

[knotty saddle]

wait did that start with someone getting bugged numbers

I saw a screenshot

[modest perch]

2 presumably grown men stuggling to grasp basic arithmetic and devolving into a shouting match for 2-3 days

[white sky]

I don't know exactly tbh

[modest perch]

wait what incident were u thinking of ?

[white sky]

It was a dick measuring contest between two micro peens

[hardy citrus]

Someone get the ‘let’s fight somewhere empty’ meme

[modest perch]

this one ?

[hardy citrus]

yeah LMAO

[modest perch]

[hardy citrus]

@cosmic sigil

[cosmic sigil]

mfg

[radiant siren]

This smells like Heresy

That psyker must be purged

[half pebble]

ngl psyker needs all of sienna's staffs that arent already covered ported

[brazen compass]

Oh that's Dorfan, the macro himself

[radiant frigate]

all of them have some aspect represented

beam least of all but still

[sharp shoal]

Simpler times

When darktide skills looked like that

[hardy citrus]

i mean yeah that's like vermintide system

[radiant frigate]

we had ONE toughness talent and it SUCKED and it was GOOD like that

(and vet was better than anyone else)

[weary crane]

Back when soulblaze was called agony

[half pebble]

ngl this looks awful and im glad its different

even if the older ui is prettier

[sharp shoal]

Lol

It looks really good the old ui

[half pebble]

is this what dt launched with? if so i can see why ppl hated it at first 😭

[sharp shoal]

Lol

It was fun still

[half pebble]

:)

[sharp shoal]

Also week 1 power sword

Or back then psyker had infinite dodges

[half pebble]

is gunker griefing

[sharp shoal]

I miss the infinite dodges

[hollow summit]

Gunker can be pretty good

But mostly just less viable than space magic

Cuz inferno staff is busted

[velvet wind]

Greetings

[knotty saddle]

so I just realized how ridiculous empathic evasion actually is

this class is so carried

although maybe the gunners are carried too

fuck em

[zinc phoenix]

Back when Darktide was good

They just needed to add more boards and buff some of the weaker choices among the 18

System worked great in VT2 while being less of a PITA than the DT one

[unkempt panther]

I like the new skill trees, and I was playing during the original skill trees in darktide.

Obviously some balancing remains to be done, but I think the skill trees overall are in a good place. I think crushers with all carapace armor are just unhealthy for the game with its assumed pickup group nature. Everyone needs to have anti carapace because of that.

That’s my biggest complaint atm.

[ripe obsidian]

The armor system is interesting in theory, but you are right that only crushers require any amount of planning. Everything else dies about the same to any weapon.

[unkempt panther]

Because most of the weapons do near literally zero damage to carapace n

[deft stump]

More, the SPAM of crushers.

Like, if there were much less of them and more maulers, sure.

[radiant siren]

I'm beginning to believe

That I can do damage

(This was damnation event)

[unkempt panther]

I’d be happy if nearly all weapons had at least decent damage for weak spot hits on carapace.

[dull scroll]

https://tenor.com/view/excited-happy-rubbing-hands-smile-gif-5845793017629723393

purple is back on the menu siblings

[half pebble]

Anyone else notice that fem seer is way nicer than male seer

Male seer is upbeat and joyful but is also pretty unhinged but fem seer is just like

Grandma with dementia

[radiant siren]

Finally, I have completed my Laspistol

[deft stump]

With an inf ammo shotgun that always hits.

[zealous wing]

KILL! KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL

[half pebble]

What ur grandma doesnt say that

[radiant siren]

Why is getting maxed curios such a pain in the ass

[sharp shoal]

Lol

Got hit by a crusher cause hc lived with 13 hp

[summer prairie]

did they rotate multiple havoc modifiers, I see both healing and stimms

[zealous wing]

pus hardened... thats not rot, right? thats different

[summer prairie]

what, that's in too?

terrible

[summer prairie]

maybe blight,rampaging and rotten gone

[zealous wing]

stims, toll, pus hardened, garden, i see no others showing up in PF

[summer prairie]

Hab Dreyko and Power Matrix probably gone, Chasm Station back and not sure about the other

[zealous wing]

i wonder if sycorax is still in

[verbal thistle]

Power Matrix never leaves.....

[summer prairie]

Excise Vault is the other

[zealous wing]

communion, relay station, baross, consignment, excise, chasm station are the maps i see rn

[summer prairie]

Already got the full list

[zealous wing]

kinda shame tho... chasm station also easy to speedrun

[summer prairie]

are you sure

[zealous wing]

it can be mercantiled

you can also skip a decent portion of it by hopping the fence

granted tho the mercatiled part is harder to pull off

but its doable

[summer prairie]

okay, literally never see anyone do it on havoc

[zealous wing]

well they took out sycorax

also a very easy map to speedrun

[summer prairie]

they did not

dreyko and power matrix are out

[ripe obsidian]

Ew.

At least blight is out.

Everything else is easy compared with blight and rot.

[zealous wing]

thought you said i already got the full list. guess you meant you lol

shame then

more influx of h40 clear holders who know nothing about how h40 works

specifically, the ones then requesting to join high havocs

[ripe obsidian]

Pus-hardened skin is 50% ranged damage reduction at H40. Kinda obnoxious

[zealous wing]

oh so its baby rot

but for more types?

hasnt been in since i've been here i think

[ripe obsidian]

All non-groaner/poxwalker enemies

I believe.

[summer prairie]

not mutant and most bosses

[ripe obsidian]

It's one of few modifiers that isn't "fuck you for being in melee"

[summer prairie]

or crusher

[ripe obsidian]

Healing is mostly a DPS check and damage farm for Inferno, but with the current level of DPS every class can put out, it's only really a problem if a captain is purple

Contaminated stimms is whatever, except that the visual effects don't always work

[atomic flicker]

siblings, where can i get this pose?

[zealous wing]

hmm

[zealous wing]

sounds like a job for SF thammer marty

(it always is )

[zealous wing]

not currently in the game, so either modded or in the files

[atomic flicker]

yeah its viewable from a mod

sad

i thought it's a hidden mission

[zealous wing]

these are the only ones here

[atomic flicker]

yea i have the mod that shows every single equippable thing

so its in the files, just not implemented

[zinc phoenix]

well that event finally got me to chug stims

[polar flower]

im so excited for black history month

we're celebrating

[fluid pawn]

So I like just got this game a few days ago and so far it’s peak, but does anyone know the strongest build? So far I’ve been using the lighting staff and it’s seems op but I just don’t know if there better stuff

[errant karma]

The what

[patent jacinth]

You're playing psyker

Throw a rock and you'll hit something

[fluid pawn]

Fair enough lol

[verbal thistle]

There is far too many variables in game to determine which is the best build

But most weapon comboes have preferred talents that they take

So find something you like to use

[fluid pawn]

I kinda was thinking that was the case, Icl everything is kinda confusing so far though, especially with the talent tree thing, ig I gotta really sit down tomorrow and read over everything, I’m thinking the voidblast staff or the lighting one

[verbal thistle]

Go for it then

Those are my fav staffs

Very high skill ceiling with them

If you are leveling don't worry as much

Get to level 30, get your weapon masteries then start to think about mix max

That's when you really start playing the game

[fluid pawn]

I kinda fucked somthing up and I made one of my staffs legendary from gray like immediately, didn’t really peep anything on the staff. I’m like lvl 19 on it rn and kinda have just been redoing levels 1-3 over and over again, I just beat level 5 today 😭

[verbal thistle]

It's fine

All the perks and blessings can be changed, the only thing you need to look for are the weapon stats

[x/80] for 4 of the stats and then [x/60] for the "dump"

Dump being least important stat

But it's not worth trying to get right now because the shops are weighted against you until you are max level

[fluid pawn]

Bettt, Ty for all this

[verbal thistle]

Try to save materials and use the weapons you are gifted at the end of a successful mission

[keen granite]

Pm lol

[runic canyon]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a0705540-b83a-4e7e-bff1-40330620458d/blows-up-mind-with-warp-powers
Is this build still current Ainz?

[verbal thistle]

Yeah

[runic canyon]

Do you have any YT videos for this one to get a sense of how it plays?

[verbal thistle]

Uh

https://youtu.be/0aCgA8Wm72E?si=G0_OjcWGhWpi_poI

This but I spam gaze off cooldown

[runic canyon]

TY 🙂

How are the "meta bubble" builds on the Googledoc?
"Inferno + Telekine Shield
Recommended Build: Basic Meta Bubble Build v2"

I haven't played psyker in a long time

[verbal thistle]

Unsure, don't know what they are

[wind spruce]

googledoc builds are good

[zealous wing]

basically you take bubble if you want defense / a beacon for your team to move to / help initiate a push if the frontliners aren't moving, instead of dealing significantly more damage overall

specifically with inferno

a build like bubbleknight though handles much easier without the "oh shit" button than a warp heavy build does, but it WILL teach you good peril control in any scenario

[obtuse walrus]

Meta Builds are Ass. Just use what you vibe with

[quartz barn]

Got it ill run smite, damage shriek and dd with heavy sword and pen flame purg

[jovial juniper]

Have you ever played a 40k dollars tournament with your vibes on the line

[prisma nova]

Kingsman has no vibes. Cece can vouch…

[zinc phoenix]

Take assail, Scriers gaze, a zap stick and empower. You’ll cruise through most stuff. Melee of choice but I recommend force great sword because it’s a) good and b) cool

You use zap stick to quickly throw a few balls to stagger something or rarely the full zap to get a special, it’s very much a secondary weapon in the arsenal unlike the other stages

Max out all the assail stuff. It’s an easy to play well setup that can clean house of anything soft. Carapace will hold you up but that is ok, either learn to melee it or just open distance and shoot it with your zap stick left click in the head

[obtuse walrus]

No because I actually shower

[zinc phoenix]

Someone should make a table top wargame using exclusively anime femboys in maid outfits

Give em all over the top names and lore and lots of serious rules and abilities

[queen carbon]

Eldar

[zinc phoenix]

No that’s too far that’s too much

[half pebble]

Next update: seer wakes up

[mental mulch]

Bad stuff happens

[quartz barn]

Free monster marketing

Idk if monster would want that tho

[zinc phoenix]

Give all characters in Warhammer tabletop a special power they can only use if you apply deodorant

[dusk timber]

Hmmm too low of an requirement

Make it so you have to take a shower for it

[fluid pawn]

I’ll def take a look at it

[restive slate]

Could the FGS crit special blessing interact with Shotgun blessing like Manstopper?

Like how FGS special applies Bolt Pistol bleed blessing

[polar tangle]

My stripper psyker
Sexy

[ripe obsidian]

Those are some tight pants

[jovial juniper]

Alternatively the psykers are too thick for the pants

https://tenor.com/view/reaction-my-honest-reaction-robert-pattinson-gif-27581318

[wraith sphinx]

I got those pants as well, they rock

[radiant siren]

You know

I kinda wish head pop had a cooldown instead of a charge

[lone ravine]

congrats you have described kinetic flayer

[radiant siren]

I mean yes

But I mean regular headburst

I wish I could just look at a guy, click my blitz button, watch their head pop and then it goes on cd

It'd just make it smoother

Also

Fuckin' finally dude holy shit

[unkempt panther]

I think that they should at least change brain burst to scale its casting time with the target's hp points.

[lone ravine]

honestly if it was a cooldown making it a quick cast would be cool

[radiant siren]

You could have the ranged one be quick cast and have kinetic flayer be melee

[radiant siren]

Scale with target HP but guarantee a kill?

[unkempt panther]

maybe some upper limit for playability reasons, have it go off early on crushers and bosses, for example.

[radiant siren]

I think it popping crushers is fine

but yeah bosses shouldn't be one shot

It popping crushers is fine cuz if it's a 5-6 second cast that's not gonna save you from a room full of crushers

but it'd be useful to kill one crusher you see on the other side of the room before they're a problem

[unkempt panther]

Just considering what if you have to cancel it early, and also how it might interact with any stun mechanics it might have. I admit I don't know offhand if and when brain burst will stun a target.

[sinful olive]

I want a modified version of the mortis modifier for BB where popping an elite causes 10 normal enemies around the elite to also get hit by BB. Not because it would be strong, I just like hearing the funny popping noise going off a dozen times.

[ripe obsidian]

Rock is hard-coded to instakill most enemies on hit.

So there is a precedent for it

[unkempt panther]

Also, it might be more useful if it went off early. Might need that shorter cast time to actually use it in time to perform a dodge or some other action. A 5-6 sec cast time sounds difficult to use in hectic situations.

[zinc phoenix]

just hard clutched auric twins fight so that was fun

everyone dead, i wave clear knock them shields and get a guy up to recover it

didnt think i could pull it off but i guess i still got a little gas in the tank

[verbal thistle]

Nice

[zinc phoenix]

first time ive had the shakes after a video game moment in decades lol

[zinc phoenix]

ok i am zap stick pilled

ive forced myself to learn the left click and its actually really nice

warp bullets are very generous with aiming these days

tase away the bursters, body shot the maulers with left click, muties you can headshot pdq with it. its surprisingly versatile

[tiny kindle]

How do you get the best curio and what’s the best ones and max power?

[verbal thistle]

21% heath

17% toughness

Plus 3 stam (if rating is 410+)

Plus 1 wound

Those are the max and the best way to get them is the check brunt's hourly shop or gamble at melks

[tiny kindle]

Does 500 curio exists?

[verbal thistle]

I think max is 430

But rating doesn't matter outside stamina

[weary crane]

Oh god pus hardened is back

[modest perch]

easy modifier

[weary crane]

It destroys all ranged breakpoints, which are already hard to achieve in h40

[unkempt panther]

MisterE's new video starting with a demonstration of emptying your mag directly into the enemy skull of a crusher and chaos-spawn is pretty funny. About equal time to kill for that braced autogun.

[prime elk]

Yea because braced isn’t intended for shooting crushers lol

Dumb comparison

But nothing new for that channel

[zealous wing]

yeah xD

[unkempt panther]

I fear you might get a similar outcome for a lot of melee weapons.

But point taken.

[radiant frigate]

no no let us cast the invocation of absolute death for like a minute to explode bosses from full health

[zealous wing]

if its a normal auric crusher... no a lot of melee has much faster TTK than they do on a chaos spawn

[unkempt panther]

Hmm, I gotta go test this now.

[zealous wing]

honestly the more i think the more fun this would be

[unkempt panther]

As long as it scaled to current remaining health, and updated dynamically based on damage from other sources.

[radiant frigate]

that would be the ideal yeah

but now imagine accounting for multiple psykers casting it on the same target

[unkempt panther]

Good QA point! Lol. Have a global counter on the mob that is updated per tick by each psyker casting bb. Something like that.

[radiant frigate]

i have to imagine that would be hell to code

🍝

[unkempt panther]

And how would this work with shields? and unshielded mobs with the auto trigger at each 25% health reduction.

Probably wouldn't be that hard IMO.

Professional programmer is me. Probably a lot easier than adding new animations or 3d models, etc.

Rigging and animation modeling is such a pain, from what little I have seen.

If a caster is interrupted, they lose their progress, right? Then each mob would need 4 counters, one for each player, for the current bb "casting time", which is reset when they interrupt their bb casting.

For performance reasons, if we're micro-optimizing here, maybe bb can stack for monstrousities only. Or maybe bb doesn't stack at all. That wouldn't be a big loss, but it would be funny to see 4 psykers all charging brain burst for, what, 10 seconds, and then the beast of nurgle head explodes? lol

[opal spindle]

hi! begennier here, for the psyke melee build, what stats are the dump stats for blaze force greatsword

warp resis or finesse or something? (dunno what finesse is)

[robust jacinth]

immagine just holding bb for like 2 minutes and oneshotting a pogryn

[cosmic sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/the-universe-tim-and-eric-mind-blown-mind-blown-meme-mind-explosion-mind-explosion-meme-gif-18002878

[verbal thistle]

Warp res

[opal spindle]

okay ty

[verbal thistle]

you can inspect the weapon and hover over the stat to see what it does

[opal spindle]

damage 73%
finesse 74%
warp 73%
cleave and defense 80%

should be good then?

[verbal thistle]

good, but not the best

[opal spindle]

I started a few days ago so I have been trying builds, so far liking melee but still not maxed level still 21

[verbal thistle]

wait till level 30 to roll the perfect weapon

since the shop is weighted until you are max level

[opal spindle]

will do, thanks !

[radiant siren]

Just sitting in the corner channeling like

https://tenor.com/view/dragon-ball-z-dbz-anime-vegeta-saiyan-prinve-gif-17680490

[ornate hamlet]

This reminds me that there was an instant death spell in Dragon's Dogma where you had to manually keep the death circle on the enemy and it would take ages to use on a boss

[radiant siren]

gets killed by a crusher overhead 3 seconds before the attack would go off

[ornate hamlet]

But it was also probably the most interesting spell I remember in a game

It was also fairly easy to kill normal stuff with it

It was a very static and dangerous spell, specially depending on the player's party composition due to the pawn behaviour system and whatnot

You straight up just sat on the same spot for 3 business days trying to track a guy perfectly and having the progress reset if you mess up

[robust jacinth]

i don't remember it being affected by ritual casting

spell sync that's the word

[unkempt panther]

Mobility might also be a dump stat. The difference between 60 and 80 mobility is pretty small. I've been led to believe that the number of dodges is the same, which is the most important part. Personal preference perhaps if you dump this or something else.

[radiant frigate]

yes but warp res

[opal spindle]

I mean for the greatsword there isnt a mobility stat anyways

[unkempt panther]

Oh there isn't? I was thinking regular, my bad.

[opal spindle]

but thank you regardless !

[robust jacinth]

p sure most people dump warp res because being at high peril is actually beneficial and being able to keep it up easier turns a "negative" into a positive.

[unkempt panther]

That's relatively high skill cap gameplay, not sure it applies so much for a beginner. And for bubble builds it's slightly more debatable IMHO.

[opal spindle]

yeah I will roll for a better one soon with low warp res

[opal spindle]

but for now this should do

[unkempt panther]

If you're new, it probably doesn't matter that much. Don't be too fixated on getting the perfect roll for now.

Now, the perks and blessings, those matter a bit / a lot more.

[ornate hamlet]

I didn't even know the mechanic until I looked it up just now, I just kept doing it on my own

[robust jacinth]

do a spell sync run where you cycle through the elements

[opal spindle]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9da62e0d-1e0f-4d9b-adca-a60b3809dd98/gandalf-melee-wizard-updated-for-bound-by-duty I am building like this but I might adjust to another build and go with a telekine one

[robust jacinth]

it's so fun to just spam tornadoes and firestorms and shit

[unkempt panther]

And remember it's free to change the talent tree as much as you want, and you can have several builds ready to go via that "plus" "+" button in the upper right on the talent tree page.

[ornate hamlet]

I never liked spellcaster pawns because all the ones that I got from the funny stone would:

• Start casting spell near boss
• Boss would move closer an inch
• "Oops, I need to stay a certain distance away from the boss"
• Start casting spell away from boss
• Boss would move away an inch
• "Oops, I need to stay a certain distance close to the boss"

[unkempt panther]

Also also, know that the weapon mastery page doesn't actually put those abilities on your weapon. The weapon mastery page is there to unlock the ability to /craft/ those abilities onto your weapon at the crafting bench.

[ornate hamlet]

So I'd see the AI stuck in this dumb loop of starting and stopping casts constantly

[prime elk]

Pro tip: avoid public games lantern builds. They are pretty much universally shit

[opal spindle]

wanted to do a spam voidblast build but saw it takes more skill

[ornate hamlet]

Reasonable wrath

[opal spindle]

I am not copying it 1:1, I am adjusting to what I see fits me more ofc

[ornate hamlet]

It's a bit of a shame, because when the AI did manage to cast the spell, it would annihilate the boss

[hardy citrus]

LOL

[ornate hamlet]

clown

Wait, different guy

[robust jacinth]

did they ever change how souldrinker works? Does it still only trigger on an enemy burning to death and not when killed with soulblaze applied?

[prime elk]

That’s builds in the pins too btw

[hardy citrus]

sure bro, ill get right on that

[radiant siren]

wait does the psyker even have the shield though

OH

LMFOA

[hardy citrus]

No i dont

[radiant siren]

LMFAO*

[prime elk]

Should’ve taken bubble knight

[hardy citrus]

scriers is goated

[opal spindle]

I will probably go with the telekine build from there

[robust jacinth]

people play bubble knight or smyker and be like "i don't understand why people say psyker is out of line rn, this class is dogshit" meanwhile infinite scryers exists.

[zealous wing]

on FGS!? hell nah

[prime elk]

Hey bubble knight is fine

Good for the team

[zealous wing]

bubbleknight is still hella strong

[prime elk]

Strong but not OP

[radiant siren]

what everyone running the same psyker build does to a mf

[hardy citrus]

fr

it's funny

[prime elk]

SG and DD is genuinely ass to play with

Because it’s so fucking strong

[robust jacinth]

did you see the point go over your head or just choose to ignore it?

[prime elk]

What’s your point then

[radiant siren]

Me when I get infinite scryer's online:

[robust jacinth]

infinite scryers is fucking nuts and does weird shit to the game when you know what you're doing.

[radiant siren]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-the-dark-ages-doom-dark-ages-doom-dark-ages-doomguy-gif-15980962764398322199

[knotty saddle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1272804331497979935/1450700850132418651/Kill_All_Smykers.gif

[prime elk]

Ok I think you missed my point

[robust jacinth]

seconded

[knotty saddle]

dont even think about it

[narrow herald]

Wtf is the bubble knight build anyways?

[radiant siren]

doesn't infinite scriers electrostaff actually break the game

[prime elk]

Its agents build with bubble and DD

[zealous wing]

check the pinned build guide

[zinc phoenix]

People are very entertained when I use sg + ep to assail and left click spam

[low talon]

deserved

[robust jacinth]

breaks aurics hard, but honestly of all the shit you can do it's not that insane

[prime elk]

That’s way less oppressive than SG and DD

[radiant siren]

My favorite infinite scriers build is with FGS

[zealous wing]

"oppressive" 😭

[radiant siren]

cuz at least then I have to be in melee

[knotty saddle]

hmm... you can only stun two elites at a time really, and sometimes youll have 10-15 armor pushing you down and a couple bosses

there are better things in that situation

[robust jacinth]

watching one assail yondu like 30 fucking ragers.

[knotty saddle]

it does hard carry me through auric though

[robust jacinth]

or just permanantly flooring everything with voidblast

[zealous wing]

assail overall is just entertaining to use

[prime elk]

Yeah I like it

[radiant siren]

The director watching you play infinite scriers:

[ornate hamlet]

I wish assail had more interesting sound effects

[unkempt panther]

I think I do better with assail spam with warp siphon personally IMHO

[ornate hamlet]

It makes the sound of a pencil being dropped

[prime elk]

Hey I find the clinking satisfying

[zealous wing]

the hive scum just stared at me for like, 5 seconds in the doorway

[knotty saddle]

what even deals with this besides ogryn grenade or scum launcher

[robust jacinth]

unironically just throw them over the shield

[ornate hamlet]

Your beloved connection is now being revoked, please stand by

[unkempt panther]

Smite, eventually,

[zealous wing]

scriers rending trauma has that solved

[knotty saddle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1272804331497979935/1450700850132418651/Kill_All_Smykers.gif

[ornate hamlet]

I think the most irritating thing about bulwarks is that their shield keeps resetting if you're just spamming attacks on them

Which, like all the bulwark's mechanics, is fine on its own

[unkempt panther]

Hey man, in my preferred balancing of the game, smite would be like a 90 or 120 sec cooldown, effectively, to stun that group of 40 bulwarks of crushers. I think that’s legit.

[zealous wing]

im running knife/assail/rending trauma on this psykers leveling process, its quite fun

[radiant siren]

what rending are you talking about i'm bad at psyker

[robust jacinth]

funny thing is that it's not just if you're spamming attacks into them

[ornate hamlet]

But when you got a platoon clipping into each other, it's fucking ridiculous

[robust jacinth]

it works with gunners and shooters too.

[zealous wing]

rending voidblast build with scriers

[prime elk]

I’m racist against bulwarks

[ornate hamlet]

You mean like gunners and shooters doing friendly fire and resetting them for you?

[robust jacinth]

valid

[robust jacinth]

yup

[ornate hamlet]

New rage unlocked

I will scorch Atoma

[prime elk]

Yeah it’s so ass

Such an annoying enemy to fight

[robust jacinth]

nothing is more frustrating than having a bullwark wave running at you with a reaper behind them just forcing them to not attack

[ornate hamlet]

Bulwark is one of those enemies that really shows how the game can break with Fatshark just solving everything through enemy volume

[zealous wing]

personally my new pet peeve is dueling a bulwark squad and some dumbass hivescum is using desperado on them, locking their shields in place so i cant dodge and riposte their face

[radiant siren]

yes I mean where is the Rending comign from

[ornate hamlet]

Crushers arguably are another, but at least you can sort of see the overheads above the carapace mass

[zealous wing]

rending shockwave

[radiant siren]

Ah ok

[zealous wing]

ignore the stats

[ornate hamlet]

Ragers might be an enemy that I actually find kind of cool in groups

[zealous wing]

this is one of my throwaway psykers so i dont go for perfect stats, just something functional

[radiant siren]

Ah

I use this one

[unreal yew]

what do you use assail for?

[zealous wing]

weaving, peril generation, trash cleanup, sniper sniping, rager cluster stagger, trapper stagger, etc

[unreal yew]

it seems like it doesn't kill anything

is it to kill or stagger? do I use mostly focused fire or throw from the hip?

[zealous wing]

both kill and stagger, and mostly hipfire

[verbal thistle]

spam left click into horde/unarmored elites

[zealous wing]

its also used to proc malefic momentum with severe ease

[robust jacinth]

invest in crit and watch them fall

[zealous wing]

so, thats an easy +25% dmg to all warp and nonwarp attacks

also yeah it can crit

meaning it procs things like mettle

[unreal yew]

hmm

so it's like a buff

[zealous wing]

its a tool

[robust jacinth]

it's like having 10 autonomous revolver shots that proc your buffs and don't cost resources.

[zealous wing]

and they go where you look, even after switching weapons

[unreal yew]

I thought it was like the zealot throwing knife

[robust jacinth]

no, you spam them into a crowd and the crowd dies

[zealous wing]

much more versatile than zealot knives

though, zealot knives are also cool

can throw them while actively channeling chorus, which not many people know about

[static vessel]

Rlly?

[unreal yew]

ok, spamming assail makes you explode

spammed twice and both times I exploded

[static vessel]

Yea lol

[zinc phoenix]

Meanwhile I have to hand crank the voidstrike for ten minutes to mildly offend one crusher

[radiant siren]

Just relic blade his head

[ripe obsidian]

Spamming any peril-generating activity makes you explode

[robust jacinth]

voidstrike? never heard of it. Musta been your imagination.

[robust jacinth]

not with scryers

[zealous wing]

even with scriers

with normal scriers youve got 1.5s grace period

need the warp unbound node for the full 11.5 second

[robust jacinth]

unless they have fixed infinite scriers bulds this is not true.

[zealous wing]

the part of infinite casting on scriers is warp unbound

then you also need warp siphon to really get it back before the grace timer of WU is over

[robust jacinth]

okay, but why would you take bad faith all the sudden when we were just talking about the insane shit that infinite scriers can do?

[zealous wing]

because if you spam peril generating things, you will explode

[robust jacinth]

congratulations that is how peril works

you've done it

[zealous wing]

exactly

[robust jacinth]

you've solved psyker

[zealous wing]

someone didnt read the conversation

[robust jacinth]

do you talk like this in real life?

[knotty saddle]

this is real life

c:

[robust jacinth]

this is just fantasy

[knotty saddle]

caught in a landscape?

wait

landslide

[zealous wing]

i mean

technically both can be true

[robust jacinth]

NO ESCAPE FROM MY DREAM

LOOK OUT TO THE SKY AND SCREAM!!!!

[ripe obsidian]

That's not the gotcha you think it is, nor is it a particularly helpful thing to add.

[hardy citrus]

i need to contribute to the discussion by talking about how overstatted scriers is at every chance i get though!

[zinc phoenix]

Genuinely faster to run over and bop them, I’ve tried both 😂

The one thing voidstrike is amazing at is train mission

It’s one long straight highway

[knotty saddle]

ive been exploding running scriers dn as well

so I think they may be right

[robust jacinth]

behold the paragon of hidden knowledge that set the tone for such an intellectual joust.

[radiant siren]

The director the moment you take off Empathic Evasion:

[zealous wing]

so uh, how else do you respond to someone saying spamming assail makes them explode

since you're so smart

[knotty saddle]

easy

[zealous wing]

fair point, but i meant Sure

[robust jacinth]

brother

[hallow vector]

so wall shield doesnt stop crushers

that is unfortunate

[verbal thistle]

20% chance for elites

"100%" for specials

[hallow vector]

wtf even is the difference between elite and specialist

like that just sounds like the same thing

[robust jacinth]

does the enemy kill you with a conventional weapon or something a clown would use? (Pro tip: flamethrowers belong to the clowns.)

[verbal thistle]

specials have special moves that either suppress your ability to move (aoe or disable) and elites have alot of hp and damage

[thorn cedar]

Exploits
Head: Empty
Otherwise: Anxious

[zealous wing]

ah seer, you absolute nutcase

[ripe obsidian]

Seer best voice

[zealous wing]

i am growing quite fond

glad i have more than one psyker

[fading hedge]

2 mana vanilla 8/8 at common? Damn

[zealous wing]

i keep forgetting to clip some i hear a lot. the one about pretending to be a psychopath makes morrow leave you alone

for example

not psyker but looking through the clips i do have... they're all just such gold

then theres some character growth from loner admiting he was wrong

[fading hedge]

Well, damnit, now I cant stop theory crafting custom cards for each special and elite...

[radiant siren]

THREE FUCKING PLAGUE OGRYNS

[fading hedge]

Nah, ragers would be red

[radiant siren]

Green cuz nurgle

[fading hedge]

Red because blind aggression and no thought of self preservation

The cards I would make would likely be green red to reflect the aggressive nature and green for growth and plague spreading

[radiant siren]

Fifty Fucking Pox Hounds

[deft stump]

Deals instant HP damage to player if it hits anything. Because.

[radiant siren]

Has flying

[fading hedge]

Pox hound
2GR
Creature- Dog horror
When this enters or attacks, tap a creature an opponent controls. At the begining of your end step each opponent takes X damage where X is the number of tapped creatures they control.
3/2

This would be rare I think

[knotty saddle]

I need the full trading card game

[opaque tulip]

Psyker complete :3

[zealous wing]

i fuckin love running into polite people

will say the event is good at showing who the ones with good hearts are thats for sure

"sorry my fault"
"no its just hard, lowkey feels like auric"

genuinely lifts my mood up severely

[ornate hamlet]

Polite people in games will stub their toe and go "my deepest apologies for being a shit-tier player"

[verbal thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/explode-you-explode-fisk4-fuck-you-explode-you-with-mind-gif-25214416

[dull scroll]

chad laspistol pull out game vs beta recon slowpoke

[verbal thistle]

wait I can snip this clip better

https://tenor.com/view/i-can-imagine-anything-imagine-smart-big-brain-huge-brain-gif-5334238097904652592

las pistol can use BB

[hallow vector]

im doing better as psyker with recon lasgun and blaze greatsword + brainbust on hit than i did ever actually using any of the abilities or staffs

[verbal thistle]

nice

[unkempt panther]

Wall shield should really stun everything but bosses. Maybe not ogryns, which means doesn't stun crushers, but I would advocate for at least this buff right now. Might might wall actually an interesting choice relative to bubble.

[unkempt panther]

Red and green maybe.

[unkempt panther]

Have you considered playing veteran? Lols

[hallow vector]

yeah i thought itd be like, yknow, a wall and not just a wall shaped bubble

[fading hedge]

I would make the rager mono red with haste and attacks each combat if able

[hallow vector]

i still like it over bubble cause its fun

[verbal thistle]

what does this mean?

[fading hedge]

And maybe double strike? I'll think on it

[unkempt panther]

Just making a mostly sarcastic remark that if they're going to use guns, why play psyker? It's a bad joke, and gunpsyker is a good thing, nevermind.

[unkempt panther]

Dunno, I'm a longtime magic player, not sure how I would represent ragers "I can't be stunned" ability. I agree with haste. Attack each turn if able sounds interesting. I might just change that to "this creature cannot block", but I'm not sure about that. First strike maybe?

[hallow vector]

i do play vet and ill prob try out laser build with the

them

and ive tried staffs and electro ability as psyker but it just seems

really weak or assist

rather than actually killing

[unkempt panther]

the electro staff IMHO is a backup weapon when you a need a stun, or a niche build with the LMB click spam.

[fading hedge]

First strike is a good call, I also considered some damage prevention ability

[zealous wing]

smite i agree, weak

staves however

they are very strong, but they do need to be built well

but if you dont like them, you dont like them, and thats ok

gunker is a valid playstyle

[fading hedge]

What format do you play? I soley play commander

[unkempt panther]

Haven't played in a long time. I was back around in Urza block until Invasion block. I played a little after that with friends. Mostly just informal big free for all games. Occasionally one on one. Usually not that competitive. Lots of fun decks. I played commander games for a little as well.

I had the big legendary creature deck with some search cards, Captain Sisay, Skyship Weatherlight, and Invasion blocks 5 6/6 dragons. With some legends being included from later blocks. Was fun.

Probably my favorite deck. Not intended to be remotely competitive.

[fading hedge]

Oh, the powercreep, magic nowadays is pretty bonkers

[unkempt panther]

Dunno, Urza block used to be the OP.

There's a reason box sets before that at one time were 50$, 50$, and after were 50$, 50$, and then Urza block sets were like 300$, lol.

Like, just look at this card.

How is that a thing? Lol

I had a fun cleric deck with that as a core creature. Closer to competitive. Mono-white.

Oh yae, and I think it wasn't even rare, just uncommon.

[hallow vector]

crit build with brainbust on hit is really strong with recon las

[zealous wing]

ye kinetic flayer is pretty strong

[fading hedge]

https://scryfall.com/card/rix/147/tendershoot-dryad

[zealous wing]

i prefer assail personally, with how versatile it is, but it IS strong

[unkempt panther]

Maybe off topic, but give me one more random one, that my friend used in his very powerful elf deck back in the day.

[fading hedge]

Thats the chase card from Urzas, worth a thousand, but thats because it will never be reprinted. It is a powerful card, but does nothing on an empty board.

[unkempt panther]

Thousands? Damn, my friends must be rich if we still have our cards, lol.

[fading hedge]

Og print is 1080

[hallow vector]

tbh my main issue with psyker still is just that youre so squishy

even with toughness basically full all mission i eventually take enough damage to go down once or twice

[knotty saddle]

https://tenor.com/view/we-are-going-to-beat-you-to-death-cat-mr-potato-mr-potato-cat-esmbot-gif-22848174

[zealous wing]

itll get easier over time, with practice

[restive slate]

I wish Mind in Motion affects movement speed while charging Staff attacks

[verbal thistle]

Would be funny, but still useless

Slide is all powerful sadly

[restive slate]

Would help Voidstrike a bit

(The one staff I'm struggling with still)

[ornate hamlet]

Having psyker get the zealot talent for no movement penalty during heavies would be poggers

And staves

And ADS

I dunno, just make psyker entirely unrestricted so I can stack mettle

Gonna do laspistol drive-bys on the reaper

[modest perch]

psykers already have warp speed n mettle. u can zoom u just gotta play it right

[ornate hamlet]

But I wanna do a sliding overhead like those armored fucks

[modest perch]

what id rly kill for would be immaterial focus to have better uptime conditions

[modest perch]

like i said. mettle n warp speed

[ornate hamlet]

Imagine an FGS psyker doing unrestricted heavies

https://tenor.com/view/roller-skates-rock-roll-gif-15181024

[unkempt panther]

And here, took me quite a while to remember most of the deck, but one of my favorite for-fun decks was something like this:
https://pastebin.com/eK7BBLQb

Ooh, choose the new “sisay Weatherlight captain” as the commander. This could be super fun because it allows all colors. I’ll have to try that either way my friends.

[fading hedge]

@unkempt panther check your list, Iona, Shield of Emeria is banned in commander

[zealous wing]

but like.... we do

were not slowed severely from charging an fgs heavy

[fading hedge]

Changed it slightly, this was what I had in my head

If anyone knows who specifically modeled the pox hound, I would love to credit them specifically instead of crediting Fatshark in general

[sage pulsar]

Heavy attacks are supposed to slap you down? Never noticed

[hallow vector]

cleave blessing or crit blessing for a crit build

i feel like cleave but the extra crits might be more effective

[zealous wing]

if fgs, unstable power then a crit. warp splitting talent is for cleave

[obsidian bane]

brain burst when

[sage pulsar]

When assail stops being so fun

[restive slate]

Is there a detailed explanation on how much charge affects the staff attacks?

[summer prairie]

Haven't seen any, but I think it's a quite linear increase of damage, radius and cleave depending on the staff. For Inferno it only affects how long you can shoot though that also slightly increases your direct damage ramp up but that's mostly negligible.

[marble crater]

If you play enough you will get a feel for it, sort of. For EK I don't even charge it fully most of the time, just because I like it better with more shorter charges

[dull scroll]

min-casting is pretty much meta 99% of the time with all staffs

some exception with VB if you want to knock down crushers

or VS, but nobody uses VS

[zealous wing]

just watched someone .... barely run at all

very ... very odd

likely on console, but, is there a layout where its harder to sprint? or did they just, really wanna walk while they're the last one alive?

genuinely baffled

(they got dogged and quit before the burster exploded the dog off them)

[deft stump]

Click left stick.

Doing it too much will destroy your stick.

Well, faster than it already wears.

Click and hold is also tiring.

Why do you think I bound it to left back button?

But basic controllers lack the back buttons.

[indigo tangle]

i've been using the inferno staff for probably 95% of my psyker playtime and it's holding up well but

i kinda wanna move on to using normal weapons

what gun should i use now

i'll be using a blaze force greatsword as melee

[zealous wing]

reconlasgun is a popular pick for high ammo efficiency, with really good crit farming and high mobility

laspistol is a similarly popular pick, higher mobility, less ammo efficiency, decent fire rate but not as fast as reconlasgun and leaves less room for RNG fails

infantry autogun is a less common pick, less mobility of the three, relatively ok ammo efficiency, harder to aim, but more punch per bullet than a reconlasgun

all three are decent overall damage, all three will do the job well, its preference between the three imo

[radiant frigate]

iag has the same mobility as reconlas

or well, the two non-agripinaa marks do

and the old agri is rarely seen

[deft stump]

I know same as vraks anyway.

Cos I mess around with it on vet.

Just hate trying to counter snipe long distances with vraks.

[zealous wing]

do they? personally always felt the vraks had less

slower sprint speed at least

i say this as a vraks lover and reconlas lover

maybe the animation pulls weight here

[deft stump]

Feels the same.

[zealous wing]

the reconlas sliding animation is very smooth while vraks is clunky

and no, i did not compare a mobility dumped vraks with a collat dumped recon

i use ammo dump on vraks

[radiant frigate]

they do indeed

[deft stump]

I have both with mobility dump.

They are the same.

I have both mob and collateral dump to mess around.

[indigo tangle]

i've used all these weapons on Vet and i gotta say out of all these the laspistol seems the most usable

i didn't love it but it was pretty good

recon lasgun experience

https://tenor.com/view/dr-who-doctor-who-david-tennant-water-gun-water-gif-4879154

[deft stump]

Is better inf las.

Like way better.

[modern bluff]

Shredder Pistol #1

[zealous wing]

its mostly to proc EE, but it does do decent damage

i dont have tons of reconlas clips, but on a mag per mag, ignoring infernus, it does the same damage as a vraks

but then you add infernus, and it kinda pulls ahead a bit

plus, easier to aim

[modern bluff]

Seriously. Try Shredder Pistol, especially if you're running Brain Burst with Kinetic Flayer. 3 blessings instead of 2 cause of the built-in "run n gun" ability (sprint while shooting)

[zealous wing]

it was fun

[modern bluff]

EE will be up frequently too

[zealous wing]

but REALLY falls off above heresy

but it is HELLA fun

[modern bluff]

Nah nah nah. It's good, but will meet you in the middle about effectiveness in Havoc. Ammo issues cause Havoc.

You can use it in Auric, but need to not dump into the crowd and almost never right click

you have next to perfect accuracy with the first 5-6 shots

and sprint + firing is addicting af

[zealous wing]

vraks left, reconlas right, after infernus wears off

one mag

55 bullets vs 180

[modern bluff]

Where were you hitting?

[zealous wing]

weakspot

[thorn cedar]

Yeah RLas is just a super safe pick. If you learn to reload cancel it you can do it in under a second which is permanent EE uptime so long as you do have ammo.

[zealous wing]

laspistol, 72 rounds, one mag (72 rounds is actually 36 shots)

[modern bluff]

Might kill him with the other mark

[zealous wing]

maybe

firerate is too slow, however, for science

[modern bluff]

Ya, but you can thump a Reaper 3 times in the face and kill him

[zealous wing]

lol

not worth it

[thorn cedar]

You get better results pacing your shots for infernus. And of course DD + Scriers throws a lot of the numbers around in funny ways.

[zealous wing]

one reaper perhaps..... what about 15 reapers

[modern bluff]

Put the Ghost blessing on and laugh at them all

[zealous wing]

yes this is true, im going without any active buffs

[thorn cedar]

I'll just do bursts of four or five shots against a monster inbetween other actions and bosses are strictly not a problem.

Laspee is just disgusting if you are shooting their head with 25 DD

[modern bluff]

Wish the laspistol had the Run n Gun blessing

[thorn cedar]

It used to have it baked in aaages ago

[zealous wing]

do think vraks has the fastest base TTk

[modern bluff]

I don't use the Laspistol MK X cause I panic and miss my shots too often

But the Ghost blessing is really fun once you get used to it

[thorn cedar]

i dont use it cause it doesnt have instant fire from sprint

thats really the only thing holding me back from it

[zealous wing]

may i ask

why ghost

[modern bluff]

?

Immunity to ranged attacks

I'm only on Psyker cause we're talking about that class specifically, but I use laspistol on everyone else that can use it too

[zealous wing]

others makes sense

on psyker it doesnt really

[modern bluff]

My main is Zealot

[deft stump]

It does vs bosses.

Heck, faster than dual autos.

[thorn cedar]

👌

[zealous wing]

tbf everything gets dumb if you have max DD+SG

its so broken

I MEAN

FATSHARK psyker weakest class

pls buff

slightly faster

[zinc phoenix]

i hate all the scum builds

there arent any "slow but powerful" melee options

its all grinding that finger to dust click spamming with insane attack speed

im tempted to tell claude to stay in character as a tech priest while we work on stuff

[thorn cedar]

tbf i love that and they nailed it so

but i also enjoy the much slower, immovable rock gameplay of arbites

[unkempt panther]

t-hammer heavy-attacks only martyr zealot has entered the chat

[deft stump]

Pretty sure still faster than arby.

[unkempt panther]

lol, maybe

[deft stump]

Arby is like tiny Oggy but tankier somehow.

[haughty star]

Ee is aggresively mid for las

In theory its good but idk man I never feel any good typa way about it when ive tried it. Recon wjth its crazy rof is amazing with ee tho

[heavy dagger]

should i make a recon gun psyker again, haven't touched it since my build got reset

[prime elk]

rashad i guess?

[heavy dagger]

is the vlc mark better than mk2 for recon?

[haughty star]

In my opinion the highest fire rate one is the best one

[heavy dagger]

thanks

everyone kept saying earlirer that mk2 is for the memes but it works the best with infernus and dumdum imo

[haughty star]

The idea is to use it in summation with the melee so something like a ds or fgs or illisi goes along way with it

[ionic burrow]

Do +%damage talents like Warp Rider affect the DOT of soulblaze?

[ripe obsidian]

Yes.

[haughty star]

I mainly just use mine to do Mexican standoff with gunner and shotgun groups and burn down specialists with it

So the mk6? The high fire rate one works fine with that. I think if you actually wanted to use the gun more predominantly than melee tho the mk2 or whichever is the "balanced" one woild work best

The high damage one with rending doesn't play out well at all with its double ammo consumption imo

[prime elk]

mk6 is the best yeah

nobody uses recon las just for infernus stacks

[haughty star]

There was a time when people shat on the fast one alot but ive always retained that its the best due to constant skill proc

[prime elk]

it's just a bit worse than mk6 overall

if you plan on actually using the gun as a gun

and not purely a burn stick

[haughty star]

Yee but constant ee stacks and stuff just feel good

Basically immortal trading with gunners with that thing and I use it specifically for that scenario alot

Oh wait were agreeing with each other shutting up now

[prime elk]

i really dislike mk12's slowdown on fire

[zealous wing]

mk12

[zinc phoenix]

i tend to prefer stuff like relic sword or force sword where you get big potent sweeps and lots of ways to convert one combo to another

or one movement pattern to another

but the attack speed isnt amazing

[haughty star]

Omg lol I really hate that they shifted the names around

[heavy dagger]

thank you bro

does it make sense to take brain rup with kintetic flayer over assail on a gun psyker

[ionic burrow]

Does the % damage on the inferno staff effect the strength of the soulblaze dot?

[haughty star]

I do and its fun

[heavy dagger]

bet

[zealous wing]

dots are affected by the weapon you hold

[haughty star]

Perfectly viable imo. Less micromanagement too

[ionic burrow]

So what is the dump stat on the inferno? quell speed?

[haughty star]

Damage unless that changed

[heavy dagger]

my bottom tree

[zealous wing]

warp resistance on everything except voidstrike (blast radius), and specific builds like surge surge (charge rate)

[ionic burrow]

Why would you dump damage if it affects the soulblaze?

[zealous wing]

oh you mean damage stat

[heavy dagger]

i would take immaterial focus and just a dream but idk

[haughty star]

It dont

[zealous wing]

that doesnt affect the blaze but it does affect direct damage