#psyker-class

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hardy citrus
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yeah i have jump on ctrl

hollow summit
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Crouch on ctrl tho

hardy citrus
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on C now

stone canyon
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I noticed, i turned those hotkeys off and after that it was smooth sailing

hollow summit
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I just dont use those buttons in quick succession

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Mhworlds have so many fiddly buttons tho jesus

ornate hamlet
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Normalize modding the game to stop jumping while dodging

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I will use spacebar for both, as Fatshark intended

hollow summit
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Idk why I jump occasionally

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Might be I pressed w

ornate hamlet
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You see, there's a little quirk to the game

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If you have diagonal dodge enabled, you can dodge while holding WA or WD

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HOWEVER

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If you're sprinting, that doesn't work and you just jump

ruby bloom
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yeah just turn always dodge on

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its saved me more times than its actually hurt me

ornate hamlet
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I thought it was a problem with the mod at first, until I did that and realized it's the sprint

hollow summit
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Ok den

ornate hamlet
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Which is painful

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I might end up needing to disable diagonal dodge to stop the habit, so I can then stop accidentally jumping every now and then

ruby bloom
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Idk if anything id just rebind block/ADS and put dodge on M2

hollow summit
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But push attacks...

visual trellis
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I rebind attack to shift

stone canyon
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Or just use the free left alt to dodge to begin with, just get rid of the win11 combos for language change it uses

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Disabling/Changing: You can disable this in Settings > Time & Language > Typing > Advanced keyboard settings > Language bar options > Advanced key settings.

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Then all your movement needs are covered by left hand conveniently nearby

zealous wing
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i rebound jump to left alt simply because it'd been about 1k hours at that point

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less deadly outcome

stone canyon
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Yeah i suppose that works too

zealous wing
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it does mess with other games tho and my muscle memory, but, im willing to take the sacrifice

formal dew
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Is scriers gaze and disrupt destiny any good?

zealous wing
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yes

ornate hamlet
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Both are very spicy

zealous wing
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they are very good

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but not for inferno

formal dew
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I'm gonna give scriers a go over venting shriek

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Not sure about disrupt destiny yet, I need to test the warp charge keystone first

hollow summit
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warp charge is primarily for resetting shriek

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running it on gaze is kinda overkill

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cuz gaze has very high uptime

prime elk
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just overpowered

hollow summit
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lol

ornate hamlet
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Disrupt destiny sounds worse than it actually plays

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In a practical match, the targets light up left and right, and with exceptions of the game just straight up refusing to spawn bruisers and shooters while you're running the extra stacks modifier, I have been able to keep the buff up pretty well

prime elk
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yeah the buff used to be much harder to keep up

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now the game just keeps splurting the boys in blue at you

boreal steppe
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question, im on my last staff leveling grind and wanted to ask
which blessings and perks should I get for the electrokinetic force staff?

hollow summit
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nexus and uh

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volley was it called?

boreal steppe
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I dont see any volley ones

hollow summit
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the one that gives you faster charge

boreal steppe
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warp flurry?

hollow summit
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unless you're playing m1...

crisp ether
boreal steppe
crisp ether
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It's a ton of damage output for virtually no risk whatsoever.

boreal steppe
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but im assuming you mean warp flurry

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crisp ether
boreal steppe
# crisp ether Rampage wishes it could be Scrier's Gaze

rampage is really just so close to being scriers imo
just needs to either get WAY more upsides, or remove those stupid downsides
you could even make it so the downsides only apply if you dont keep the duration up long enough or something

white sky
crisp ether
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I do think the downside could be looked at a bit.

boreal steppe
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and it being a melee ability

crisp ether
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But I also think it's good that it does have one because the actual effects are actually crazy strong.

boreal steppe
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I would personally go for slightly more upsides, but make it so the downsides are removed or reduced if you keep the rampage going for long enough

crisp ether
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Scrier's Gaze not having one at all and also as Tongs said, even negating peril concerns at all while having scaling damage with both melee and range and toughness regen AND also counting down while active

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Like

boreal steppe
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honestly the main downside to scriers is not having the fuck you all ranged attacks shield bubble

crisp ether
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I genuinely don't know what the fuck they were thinking with Scrier's Gaze's current state.

boreal steppe
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not even an actual downside in it

unkempt panther
# ornate hamlet Disrupt destiny sounds worse than it actually plays

In any sort of auric game, especially with the extended duration, I find disrupt destiny is at max charges most of the time. Without the extended duration, at my skill level and difficulty of aurics maelstrom, I find that I keep close to max stacks, but it's a little harder and something that I have to slightly prioritize.

dull scroll
crisp ether
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15 stacks alone is a big damage boost.

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And as long as you're over that, you're benefitting more from perfection

verbal thistle
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๐Ÿ˜”

unkempt panther
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Yep

formal dew
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Honestly veteran or ogryn

ripe obsidian
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I wish you could PM people in this game from your friends list

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Mostly to ask if they're looking for another player

verbal thistle
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the social menu is a mess

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I only add people on steam

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I dont use fatshark system

ripe obsidian
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Reasonable.

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I am one of those 116. </3

verbal thistle
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probably

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just send me your steam

ripe obsidian
ornate hamlet
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bro got mogged

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many such cases

spice aurora
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like 45min rotted mission, player was not dead much

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full melee psyk build under 400k dmg Q_Q

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HOW XD

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like 400k and dying a lot, sure no1 cares

400k and alive most of it, wtf xD

radiant siren
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but that's mostly cuz I suck

spice aurora
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it was the 90% life uptime that amazed me while doing the dmg xD

radiant siren
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How does Melee Psyker want to go about doing a ton of damage?

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I don't think I quite get it

verbal thistle
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reaper moment

modest perch
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take advantage of scriers low downtime. keep dd up. take precog

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try to use assail as much as is convenient/wise to keep mm up

radiant siren
modest perch
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disrupt destiny

radiant siren
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Ah

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My melee build doesn't use assail

verbal thistle
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@ripe obsidian

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4 weakened bosses

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1st spawned at 1:50 2nd at 1:55 3rd 2:10 4th 2:40

ripe obsidian
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It was a party!

verbal thistle
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there has to be an exemption to max_monsters

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these were spaced out a bit

ripe obsidian
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this was

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not a win

verbal thistle
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f

ripe obsidian
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I tried very hard, but alas

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lmao, they all quit the group and requeued without me

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As if I was the problem

plucky flax
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Real

verbal thistle
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I made a mistake

ripe obsidian
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I spy with my little eye

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smite

verbal thistle
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infinite smite build

ornate hamlet
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That -146 is the IQ

verbal thistle
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I'm just not playing the game

ornate hamlet
hardy coral
ornate hamlet
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I don't like that the enemies it procs on are mostly those the weapon doesn't need it on

hardy coral
crisp ether
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@ripe obsidian im fairly certain i just reqed ur havoc lmao

ripe obsidian
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You did

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But it was as I accepted someone

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You were too slow. D:

crisp ether
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this is so sad, alexa play desperado

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(i'm not playing desperado)

ripe obsidian
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I didn't have a chance to judge your build

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And judge I would

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:(

crisp ether
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it's awful

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don't play it

plucky flax
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Aliexpress bubble knight

ripe obsidian
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@crisp ether this is what you missed. It was a loss. The scum is the person who took your place

crisp ether
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Beautiful.

ripe obsidian
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We lost at the end event because we tried to save the vet.

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Up until the end event, I had taken 1 damage total

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=|

hollow summit
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ugh

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trying to play voidblast

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apparently i just suck at it

zealous wing
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cool room opened up

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dont get stuck, its a dead end

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(warren, after auspex)

verbal thistle
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Been there

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Since map launch

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Idk why it exists

zealous wing
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deadvoid said it was new, and i dont recall it

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being open that is

verbal thistle
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Maybe they planned for the rescue to be there

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Then moved it outside

zealous wing
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i vaguely remember the window being blacked out and such for some reason

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im only now getting to actual map exploration in solo tho so i wouldnt be surprised if im just blind/ a dumbass kek

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learned some cool new looping points i didnt know were available on a few maps already, very helpful mod

boreal steppe
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I do wish the wall shield was slightly better

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Just a tiny bit more

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Cause i love it
Its fun
But its also just not enough i find

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And yes
Thats 99% because i love parrying dogs and mutant charges with it

verbal thistle
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Don't think it needs buffs. It just needs consistency

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A knowledgeable psyker that knows special spawns/behavior can easily control most specials with it

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But in practice it only works 1/5 of the time with specials

boreal steppe
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Yah
Something that increases consistency is a buff, and is what i would want

ripe obsidian
modest perch
hollow summit
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idk target priorities also im trying to level dsword

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actually fucking hate the animations

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-_-

devout meadow
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want to try melee psyker

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but not vibing with this build

deft stump
ornate hamlet
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The end of that link gives me ideas

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I hate confirming my fears

devout meadow
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no gif

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rip

ornate hamlet
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Embed fail

radiant frigate
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scrier smiter.. oh no..

ornate hamlet
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Ryan Gosling cereal deployed

radiant frigate
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siblings... tell me it isn't so..

ornate hamlet
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It is so, *lf

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It is so.

devout meadow
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siblings I need your guidance

deft stump
radiant frigate
radiant frigate
deft stump
ornate hamlet
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I can't offer anything on staves and warp siphon and EP and uhhh whatever else because I just don't use the stuff

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But I'd at least get empathic evasion, since the build already wants to use mettle and perfect timing

devout meadow
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how to play melee psyker the good way?

radiant frigate
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bonk heretics on the noggin

devout meadow
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very insightful sibling

ornate hamlet
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Get crit, empathic evasion, play like a rabid dog

deft stump
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Beeg or smoll sword to heretic heds.

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BB if extremely lazy, Assail if weaving for peril.

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Bb for KF.

modest perch
ornate hamlet
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I played kinetic flayer recently and it's such a silly little thing

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I didn't feel the 12s as much as I imagined I would

radiant frigate
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enter scrier's gaze -> YOU SHOULD BE RUNNING, CRETINS -> the cretins don't run -> lose yourself in the dance of blood -> regain consciousness -> repeat until total heretic genocide

ornate hamlet
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Every now and then I'd just immediately delete a mutant or vaguely fire one shot at the sniper and kill it instantly

modest perch
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kf is so jolly n whimsical

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lore accurate psyker shenanigans n tomfoolery perhaps

ornate hamlet
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It makes me hate that default brain burst is ass and even with kinetic resonance it just doesn't beat the snappiness of revolver

radiant frigate
ornate hamlet
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And I ain't gonna fucking use no EP

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I want my glowies to kill

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I want to disrupt some destinies

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The CIA shall pay

modest perch
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i miss him ...

radiant frigate
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but.. we're working for the space CIA

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the darkest part of darktide is realizing you play as a fed

ornate hamlet
deft stump
modest perch
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dont stare at me like that u know as well as i do yen is horrible

radiant frigate
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but i like yen

ornate hamlet
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I needed to go to sleep smiling

radiant frigate
ornate hamlet
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Actually I need to shower first

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Wife smiles at me

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Joy is sparked

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Is that corpse starch cake?

radiant frigate
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Yes

ornate hamlet
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Yum, prions

sage pulsar
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the prions add the flavour

modest perch
radiant frigate
modest perch
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im a bunny with the face of a doge

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a boge

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it means that yen may be hot n funny n smart but shes actually horrible n selfish n takes her insecurities out on u

radiant frigate
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oh dear, it's worse than i thought

modest perch
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(i had one of those)

deft stump
radiant frigate
modest perch
modest perch
deft stump
modest perch
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cus im not upside down

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duhhhh

radiant frigate
upbeat kestrel
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rodent

deft stump
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See.

modest perch
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IM BETTER

upbeat kestrel
deft stump
upbeat kestrel
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i have met a european hamster

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wild one

radiant frigate
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hamsters can survive in the wild?

upbeat kestrel
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yes?

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europe has wild hamsters

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and those fuckers are big

deft stump
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Some chonkers are as big as a guy's fist.

upbeat kestrel
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i would like a cat or a big dog

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but i have niehter time money or families acceptance

radiant frigate
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what about big cat

upbeat kestrel
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yeah

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male maine coon or norwegian forest cat

radiant frigate
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i was thinking bigger but that's good too

upbeat kestrel
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mainecoons are the biggest of the domestic variety

ornate hamlet
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So it wasn't a kangaroo

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Huh

marble crater
modest perch
radiant frigate
modest perch
upbeat kestrel
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im not that rich

radiant frigate
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find big hamsters -> use them as bait for big cat -> get big cat

modest perch
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i dont think they have big cats in the netherlands

marble crater
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Get a lion, you can just take them, they are free

upbeat kestrel
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im not from Holland

radiant frigate
modest perch
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its fren shaped

radiant frigate
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true..

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i mean

upbeat kestrel
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uncle had a cat

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kidneys got him

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sad

radiant frigate
upbeat kestrel
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cat gone

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life sad

radiant frigate
low merlin
wraith sphinx
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kino

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helldivers eating good so far in 2026

elfin thorn
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Best melee? besides force sword/great sword (love them already)

jovial juniper
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Knife
Dueling Sword

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Tactical Axe

marble crater
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Voidblast staff

scenic oar
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D Claw / Hvy Swd secretly making a comeback

jovial juniper
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I believe on Hsword

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Dclaw? Not so much

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Maybe once Fatshark buffs the flak damage

scenic oar
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Wrath + Shred

jovial juniper
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Not solving flak damage problem

scenic oar
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It's not great, but it's definitely not unplayable

elfin thorn
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I use heavy sword on scum, i like the feeling. Might do axe, dont wanna overuse dueling and knife like I do on other classes

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Thank you cinnamoroll_wave

hollow summit
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Hate the dsword animations

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Flick flick schwing

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Blargh

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I chop

ashen edge
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The mk5 one kinda look cool imo

hearty wolf
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@hardy citrus

tepid python
radiant siren
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Guys

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why do I do more damage with the trauma staff than I do with the inferno staff

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do I just suck

modest perch
radiant siren
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damn

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gonna go walk into a horde of Orks in the name of the Emperor rq then

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nah real though

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how do I use the mark 4 dueling sword

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I heard it's real good but I don't understand it

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teach me your ways

low merlin
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It's not for crowd control, it's for single target. Use the heavy attack on the weak point for massive damage.

modest perch
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stab em in the face

radiant siren
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Ah ok

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inferno staff for horde

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dueling sword for single target

low merlin
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Yes. Staff for horde, sword for single target.

radiant siren
ripe obsidian
radiant siren
ripe obsidian
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That's probably it tbh

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Enemies don't have enough health or horde density below like Havoc 30

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Inferno doesn't have time to scale

radiant siren
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Is it still worth running Inferno then?

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Or should I switch to Trauma?

verbal thistle
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play what you like

ripe obsidian
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I don't think Inferno is particularly good in Auric, but use whatever is fun for you

radiant siren
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Fair enough

ripe obsidian
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I play Voidstrike in Auric

radiant siren
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I was just trying to learn it so I can use it in high havoc if my Trauma Staff build doesn't work out

ripe obsidian
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That is fair. I think trauma and purgatus are both very strong in Havoc

radiant siren
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Though I did just sacrifice 10 inferno staffs and 10 dueling swords to hadron to upgrade mastery

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so that might help my damage now that I have tier 4 perks

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Cuz they're not quite maxed out yet

modest perch
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yea u need burn maxed

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or at least 76 cus it affects max stacks

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also when u have more money u might consider rerolling the toothpick to dump cleave dmg

radiant siren
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Yea?

ripe obsidian
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76 burn is 15/16 stacks

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80 technically is faster application as well, but it's pretty minimal

jovial mesa
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does anyone have a good voidstrike build coz iam struggeling with that one

ripe obsidian
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I have multiple builds in the pinned guide

ripe obsidian
# radiant siren Yea?

I think Path's guide in the vet pins explains why you dump cleave damage. It's a pretty minimal damage loss.

modest perch
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yeaj

verbal thistle
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We were talking about it last night

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cleave damage might not be a dump on anything

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he said something about hidden values

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like 1st target damage and ADM changes

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but I'll wait for him to wake

modest perch
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toothpick is the only one i can think of where it could conceivably be the dump

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like obvi dont dump it on pickaxe lol

spice aurora
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Be like my party finder teammates in h40

Dump first target for all single target weapons

And donโ€™t bother wasting mats, just keep it blue rarity too

verbal thistle
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speaking of

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not blue

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but close enough

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look what sal tried to do to me last night

spice aurora
verbal thistle
spice aurora
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Targetted attack

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Live breathe fire

ivory osprey
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Why is it difficult to stab with the blaze force greatsword? I've been trying to get the shield push stab move down but it's been a right bastiche mastering that move on crushers and bulwarks. I can't even pull it off for ragers, reapers, and plasma gunners. I'm on xbox if that helps.

modest perch
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position better

spice aurora
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Are you willing to swap to the mk 6

modest perch
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make use of the huge reach n terrible dodges

spice aurora
modest perch
zealous wing
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yeah mk8 fgs stab is a bitch, mk6 is far superior. light attack then the next heavy is a stab

spice aurora
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The stab on the 6 is not as stronk as the 8 but it sure is a lot spammier, so much spammier that the overall single target dps is like 30% higher when I was checking lol

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It does let you more consistently 1 hit certain shit with lower dd stacks but I donโ€™t think it matters

zealous wing
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i love that the special also leads to stab. full charge at bulwarks in horde, horde dies, bulwarks crack, begin attack immediately

verbal thistle
zealous wing
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they said shield push stab, so, mk8

verbal thistle
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iirc its difficult to spam push attack on controller, which is how mk8 acesses the, Meanwhile mk6 has the stab as the 3rd heavy or the heavy after 2 light attack

ivory osprey
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Yes, mk8 is what I have the blade as.

verbal thistle
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try mk6

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I can show you how to stab fast real quick

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getting a clip

spice aurora
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Mk6 should be more comfy on controller too

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The 8 has a cooler skin ngl

verbal thistle
ivory osprey
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It does, lol.

verbal thistle
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if the light attack is the one coming from the right the next heavy will be the poke

zealous wing
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i do like the mk 8 skin, but i have the ice shard now so im happy

verbal thistle
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if you sprint into light attack, then its 2 lights to poke

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actually

formal dew
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unless it's a running attack

verbal thistle
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I take the last sentence back

formal dew
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first heavy or first light transitions into heavy stab

spice aurora
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It changes so much with the 6 but the main thing is what he said about watching where ur arms are

zealous wing
verbal thistle
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2nd heavy

formal dew
verbal thistle
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damn, the level 31 no havoc purple weapon smite psyker didnt accept the H40 invite...

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this is sad day

ivory osprey
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I'm switching to mk6 because it's been annoying trying to tap crushers and all I'm doing is slapping with a dead fish, lol.

formal dew
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How can you use force greatsword and not use stab variant

zealous wing
slate ledge
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:3

formal dew
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It's the dedicated anti specialist weapon

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dodge back, stab in face

spice aurora
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@slate ledge GET OUT

slate ledge
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no

ivory osprey
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Cuz dumb, I guess haha

verbal thistle
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out

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you stole my spot last night

slate ledge
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zealot chat has nothing to do with the game so im here now

formal dew
verbal thistle
slate ledge
verbal thistle
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me last night when katze stole my spot

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yeah

marble crater
verbal thistle
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saw sal and vect in mourningstar and I asked

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but they said katze stole 4th spot

ivory osprey
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Heh, thank you for the advice, I appreciate it.

slate ledge
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mwhahahaha

radiant siren
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Lazpistol dump stat is Stability yeah?

spice aurora
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when you say sal I think salvaran and I wanna cut myself

verbal thistle
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lol

slate ledge
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salvaran the goat

verbal thistle
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not gonna say saaaaaaalooooon

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or whatever his full steam name is

ivory osprey
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Yes, stability is meta dump on laspistol

spice aurora
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I always auto inv salvaran ๐Ÿ˜ˆ I live for complaints mid match

slate ledge
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salvan loljae dream team

spice aurora
half pebble
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Why dont the psykers just eat the zealots souls if they dont like them?

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Isnt that what freaks do

wooden sand
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Pysker can't eat souls like the Emperor sadly

ornate hamlet
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Not with that attitude

ripe obsidian
slate ledge
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yes

ripe obsidian
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Hi

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I am Spoony-Threepus

slate ledge
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ohhhh

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i got alot of people on my friends list

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always see you on though

ripe obsidian
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I tend to play too much, ha

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But almost entirely with randoms. I just join whatever's open in party finder

slate ledge
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havent done much pubs lately

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either solo's or with some friends

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I just lurk around here never chat much

ripe obsidian
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That's fair. Most of my friends have migrated away from the game or don't play Havoc. A majority of my friends list is people who I played with once in H40, so I have a list of people I know are reliable

slate ledge
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i always get declined from party finder lol

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people see my builds and insta decline

ripe obsidian
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I try to trust that people with H40 clears know what they're doing

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I have been bitten recently, especially with a ton of people getting boosted by Alyssa & co

slate ledge
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those the archivum speedrunners?

ripe obsidian
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Yeah

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I have had some games where people die 7 times and do 200k damage in a 40 minute Havoc.

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Everyone has bad games, but some of the players are suspect. Maybe it's a bad day or they're overtired or something, maybe not.

slate ledge
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im cool with it for now makes runs more interesting but when its time for the reclimb Im just gonna do premade cant trust pf after that lol

ripe obsidian
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Reasonable. I'll need to find a consistent group for it, then return to party finder once I have H40 locked in. The person I end up winning with most in party finder recently is Eyesea.

slate ledge
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oh Eyesea

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I blocked him

ripe obsidian
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He can be abrasive.

slate ledge
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yeaaaaaaaa

ripe obsidian
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So far he hasn't said anything to me or in games with me that feels block-worthy, but he's gotten close.

slate ledge
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hes a really good player but just a lil rude

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also extremely picky in pf so it took like 20 minutes to actually play a match

ripe obsidian
#

I have noticed that, yeah.

#

He accepts me pretty much instantly when I request to join, but it can be slow after that.

slate ledge
#

I was like one of the 5 people he insta accepted but havent played with him in months after he said somethings

ripe obsidian
#

Understandable

#

Usually the people on my friends list who I want to play with are already in games, and since there's no private chat, it can be difficult to coordinate a group

ornate hamlet
#

Darktide MMO when

hearty wolf
#

Who playing

ornate hamlet
#

Can someone let me know what Psykinetics Wrath is? I just started doing Psyker for penances but Iโ€™m not really sure what the โ€œuse Psykenetic wrath to survive Perils of the Warp 50 timesโ€ wants me to do

#

Okay, never mind, just realized I have to use that specific ability and I canโ€™t use the upgraded Venting Shriek version

ripe obsidian
radiant siren
#

Well, it's not a million damage, but

#

I'll take being top DPS

ornate hamlet
spice aurora
slate ledge
#

Sir yes sir

ornate hamlet
#

Cringe

slate ledge
#

๐Ÿ˜ข

radiant siren
ornate hamlet
#

โ€œMod-team-furry-rp is NOT a real channel, it does NOT exist in this serverโ€

cold ivy
#

cuz 100% peril alone isn't what kills you, it's casting above 100% peril, and the penance is really "prevent overloading death by using shriek"

radiant siren
#

holy shit for the first time

#

I'm out of plasteel

#

instead of Diamantine

ornate hamlet
#

Real

radiant siren
#

Diamantine had been my biggest bottleneck until now

#

but with the event + having access to Havocs, I've gotten at on

ripe obsidian
radiant siren
#

What's the dump stat on the bolt pistol?

ripe obsidian
#

Collateral, I think.

#

B/c that's only stagger values

#

And honestly, stagger kinda works against you when you need 2 hits to kill most elites/specials

#

Could also dump mobility. That's always a safe choice

radiant siren
#

Hm

#

Should I max my dueling sword or my Inferno staff first?

zealous wing
#

well

#

depoends what build youre putting the DS on

#

if youre planning to put it with inferno, dont

ornate hamlet
hearty wolf
#

Guess I load the game up and see if I will die to gunners today

#

I am currently on a 2 win streak tho

ornate hamlet
#

Next update brings Nurgle penitent engines (trust)

hearty wolf
wraith sphinx
#

next update brings the blight drones

ornate hamlet
#

Poxbomber plague ogryns

radiant siren
marble crater
spice aurora
ornate hamlet
hearty wolf
#

I think

#

I'm witnessing a cheater

#

The enemies can't hit him

jovial juniper
#

Jarvis, record it

hearty wolf
#

yessir

radiant siren
#

dAMN

#

Got a Out of Memory error right at the end of the mission

#

Uh, gents

#

Any idea wtf this means?

hearty wolf
#

Wow terrible game and we still won

#

almost lost when I got barelled off the edge by a teammate as tiy di

hardy citrus
hearty wolf
#

game?

#

on a win streak still

hardy citrus
#

gonna be playing some gtfo today

#

Am avalible all tomorrow prob

#

I think

radiant siren
#

Huzzah

#

I have finally maxed my inferno staff

#

God I'm so glad weapons aren't RNG anymore

#

I read up on how weapons used to be farmed and it 100% would've turned me away from this game

ornate hamlet
#

It was disastrous

hearty wolf
#

can you not dodge while strafing in this game?

ornate hamlet
#

You mean by moving diagonally forward, or straight up just holding A and D?

#

Because diagonal forward has a quirk when sprinting

hearty wolf
#

Like what is this dysfunctional piece of shit

ornate hamlet
#

Seems to be working for most of the video, to be fair

#

I guess that sniper shot was like when I get slapped in Dark Souls: the dodge went through 0.001s after I took the hit

hearty wolf
#

Like I knew it was going to snipe eventually so I was waiting for 30 years and decided to stab the mutie while it waited

#

and the dodge just doesn't go through

mild cypress
mild cypress
radiant siren
#

turns out my Lua memory allocation might be too low

#

so I doubled it

#

from 1 gig to 2 gigs

#

should fix it

hardy citrus
mild cypress
#

that's what I'm saying

formal dew
#

What modifier is better for scriers gaze

modest perch
#

precog

formal dew
#

This is what I'm running with at the moment

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#

best I have lol

#

I'm not fully leveled yet

verbal thistle
#

blazing spirit great sword spotted!

spice aurora
#

Giga chad energy: DETECTED

formal dew
#

Well I'm going for a soulblaze build

#

and I like watching enemies light up like glow sticks lmao

modest perch
verbal thistle
#

more power to you

modest perch
ripe obsidian
modest perch
#

my club from back then was only a few points away from perfection. all it took was empowering it a couple times

ripe obsidian
#

I mean, Eyesea admits me on name alone, so I've got something going for me.

#

The tone of the above message is meant to be humorous.

spice aurora
#

I joined once as arb and said can I swap to psyk and he says โ€œI didnt invite a psykerโ€ like you must be fun irl

#

And said he hated melee psyk and I swapped anyway, I hoarded every yellow number and no onesaid shit

ripe obsidian
#

I play with him not for his attitude, but because he's someone I can rely on to play well in party finder, and losing a lot gets tiring

slate ledge
#

He told me to switch off my stealth zel because i was ass and he would be able to do more damage with his stealth vet setup

ripe obsidian
#

That's not nice

slate ledge
#

one time we were losing over and over on his map and i told him lets do mine instead to switch it up

#

He declined and said we do my maps only if you dont like that you could fuck off

modest perch
ripe obsidian
ripe obsidian
spice aurora
#

@ripe obsidian is video gaem time, if ur in game ITS WIPE TIME >:)

#

i half forgot how to play ngl

slate ledge
#

@ripe obsidian

ornate hamlet
#

When the asshole is actually skilled

#

Worst case scenario

velvet wind
#

Greetings

knotty saddle
velvet wind
knotty saddle
#

sorry no hornet allowed in psyker chat

velvet wind
#

Awwww

#

How about a mouse?

knotty saddle
velvet wind
knotty saddle
#

uhhh

#

no I think hornet just is that

velvet wind
#

I donโ€™t know anything about silk song so I donโ€™t know

knotty saddle
#

shes a wyrm/spider so not a stick bug

#

and royalty of hallownest

#

๐Ÿค“

zinc phoenix
knotty saddle
zinc phoenix
steep loom
#

bro kinetic flayer is insane now

verbal thistle
#

yes

steep loom
#

is riposte generally better value than shred? on fgs

verbal thistle
#

you can dodge and actiave riposte?

#

if so then yes

#

1 dodge = max stacks of shred

plucky flax
#

Shred increases crit chance when you're not being targeted by attacks

#

Its preference

plucky flax
slate ledge
#

yea i do that

#

idc about build im just trynna game

zinc phoenix
#

Quick play for havoc plz

#

Party finder gaming is just utter ass

#

I donโ€™t care about rank or the purity of the experience I just wanna stab and vibe

crisp ether
#

And then proceeded to say Stealth relic is bad because I was running it

#

Like as though that was the fucking problem.

#

In a closed in space where it was impossible not to get cornered, mind you.

ornate hamlet
#

Eyesea is short for "eyesea a prick in the mirror"

crisp ether
#

Like I don't get players that try to grasp onto straws to rationalize how a run goes badly

ornate hamlet
#

On havoc, no less

crisp ether
#

Everyone played their part just fine. We just got a really awful spawn and he proceeded to blame something completely unnecessary.

#

Like. Why be that upset lmao

ornate hamlet
#

The type of person to get bad RNG on a roguelike and go "I can't believe the players would do this to me"

crisp ether
#

Like they have a 40. Why does it really matter that much to win when you're not even gonna demote? Lol

crisp ether
#

i used to care, once upon a time

Lief 2 short and party maker 2 lorng

#

Also oh discord canceled the reply. Cool.

zinc phoenix
#

i feel like i cant play the event without going max shark sg

#

and just diving into everything and blending

radiant frigate
zinc phoenix
#

its just constant green gas so i bcob and triple corrupt resist and try to pretend i can see

radiant frigate
#

that's epic

zinc phoenix
#

the saint methalina event was so much better

plucky flax
zinc phoenix
#

so annoying, booty chase simulator

#

i like riposte because i know i will probably dodge but i have no way of knowing if i chain

toxic forge
#

hahahah

image.png
ripe obsidian
ripe obsidian
ripe obsidian
crisp ether
#

sabotaging a game

#

i'm talking just builds

#

unless it's some shit like

#

purge smite

#

builds and classes also

white sky
#

I accept whatever 3 dipshits show up first

ripe obsidian
#

I have a couple exceptions, like smite or someone not running stimm supply into blight, but otherwise I try to trust players. It doesn't always work in my favor.

white sky
#

We winning or we losing

crisp ether
#

there was like one point though where i was legit scared of having a bunch of hive scum in my party

#

because i had poxbursters blown up on me three games in a row with three different desperado scum

#

havoc was interesting when hive scum came out KEKW_ogryn

white sky
#

I've been told havoc is still interesting

#

And by that I mean the worst parties and the most annoying team comps

#

I think that is in part negativity bias tho

crisp ether
#

i'ma be real, i embrace different team comps

#

two psykers with different setups can be dumb strong

white sky
#

I mean

crisp ether
#

but that's psyker

#

tbf

white sky
#

I think 4 psykers might be the dumbest possible comp in a strong way

crisp ether
#

but it was still fun being bubble knight with a scrier's trauma user

ripe obsidian
#

Well, no.

#

Havoc is worse because of the hundreds of new H40 players who got boosted to that rank, and they think just having the number next to their name means they can handle it.

#

It's not worse because of scum.

white sky
#

I mean

#

I didnt think it was worse cause of scum

#

If anything I think scum makes havoc easier

#

Cause they hard counter some of the active modifiers

ripe obsidian
#

Scum is pretty strong. Needs rebalancing. But my conspiracy is that those specific modifiers won't go away until they've decided they've sold enough.

white sky
#

I mean

#

We're in psyker chat man

#

Pot meet kettle ig

ripe obsidian
#

Psyker also needs rebalancing

#

Both can be true

white sky
#

Personally I think the whole game needs to be toned down for the sake of the engine

ripe obsidian
#

Arby is the class I think needs rebalancing the least, outside of the middle keystone.

white sky
#

Or they need some intense optimization patches

ripe obsidian
#

Either would be reasonable. This engine is struggling.

white sky
#

Arby and Vet are like, fine I think. Vet could use some tree shortening/talent shuffles.

#

Arby is arby.

ripe obsidian
#

But it's what happens when you use a 16 year old engine that hasn't had official support since 2018

white sky
#

You could build that mf blindfolded and be okay

ripe obsidian
#

Yeah, basically every Arby node is a safe pick outside of the middle keystone.

#

Vet, I think, needs some serious tree adjustments

#

There's like 1-2 build paths with little variance

white sky
#

Nah I think you can run any keystone and most abilities. The nades are all good. The tree is just too long.

ripe obsidian
#

I can agree with the long tree

white sky
#

They should spread out some of the right side talents tho

#

Yk, the wombo combo above WS

ripe obsidian
#

I do know what you mean, yeah

#

Does the left side still punish you for moving?

white sky
#

Iirc no but tbh I haven't played vet heavily in a long time

#

I will say I think we've crossed a threshold where the option is no longer tone down the game and it's unfuck the engine

ripe obsidian
#

Fatshark is in a rough position with the engine.

#

The studio made it as Bitsquid like 16+ years ago. They partnered with Autodesk and it became Stingray, but no one used it, so Autodesk shuttered the project.

#

Now the only devs who actually know how it works are Fatshark employees, to the point that they had to lend Arrowhead support during Helldivers 2's development to make it work.

#

And 16 years is a long time to expect a dev to stay at a company.

#

I wouldn't be surprised if they've lost most or all of their talent who can unfuck the engine.

white sky
#

Well like

modest perch
#

surely in 16 years someone could figure it out tho

white sky
#

It doesn't help that they choose to keep adding modifiers that fuck it more

ripe obsidian
#

Code without good commenting and documentation is basically unusable

white sky
#

The engine clearly doesn't like rot armor gas clouds on death for instance, nor the amount of enemies the game spawns in upper havocs

zealous wing
#

or something they did with cranial

ripe obsidian
#

My FPS drops from ~100 to ~50 when hordes spawn in high havoc

white sky
modest perch
ripe obsidian
#

No

zealous wing
ripe obsidian
#

They don't

white sky
#

You're lucky if they do

#

I think it was toll

zealous wing
#

something about cranial and toll proccing on ogryns at the same time is the guess

buoyant maple
white sky
#

they need to do something tho ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

modest perch
white sky
#

Look, game engines are hard

ripe obsidian
buoyant maple
#

swap iron will with field improv
swap +1 stamina with right side's +25 toughness
make marksman and CQKZ refresh alongside exe stance refresh

buoyant maple
white sky
#

There's a reason most devs just use UE5 now

zealous wing
#

so technically them making toll increase ogryn size is what they fucked up, not cranial

ripe obsidian
zealous wing
white sky
#

I feel like WS is an autotake nowadays cause of the tree leading into it

#

Idk what you should trade them for tho

#

Honestly maybe Recip should be a neutral talent

buoyant maple
#

the latter change makes stance's DPS significantly higher (and applies to melee)

#

marksman is a very significant dmg increase but currently struggles in uptime vs the other dmg talents on vet tree

#

I actually don't mind the dmg boogaloo on bottom right, I just think there should be competition elsewhere in the tree

white sky
#

Idk an easier way than shuffling tbh

#

Otherwise it becomes "haha rework the tree" no?

buoyant maple
#

I don't think vet needs huge changes to tree structure

#

just talent swaps and some needing changes

#

middle section & bottom left need the most but theyr'e comparatively complex to change compared to the really simple stuff I mentioned above

#

1 extra flex point
25 more toughness
and optionally a lot more dmg for stance

#

should make a big difference

white sky
#

Does Stance need more damage?

#

I'm of the opinion stance is vets best F tbh

#

You just have to be able to leverage it

buoyant maple
white sky
#

Tbh I think we should tone down overpreformers rn than to buff more things into being them

#

So yes

buoyant maple
#

I think marksman & CQKZ getting refresh with stance makes them much more competitive vs the bottom right stuff if u play stance

white sky
#

Idk, I think ammo econ is what makes right competitive

#

Like you simply spend less ammo when you use a melee that's juiced

#

Id left side helby has infinite ammo anyway tho

buoyant maple
#

and even for stance & hybrid, you might be able to afford other things than all 3 dmg talents on bottom right

#

cuz marksman beats all 3 of them basically for dps

zinc phoenix
#

id personally rather see numbers go down everywhere followed by a cut to enemy density

#

the meat wall has gotten heinous

white sky
#

Agreed

#

Hard agreed

#

It would give the engine more room to breath

zinc phoenix
#

you dont really duel enemies, just stab the technicolor meat wall. feels very different than VT2

#

but ive been complaining about that for years now

buoyant maple
#

they need to fix surge (mechanic)

verbal thistle
#

I agree

buoyant maple
#

occurs way too often

verbal thistle
#

Specials should be a trickle

#

Not like a rollercoaster

buoyant maple
#

and nerf toxbomber & pox gas

white sky
#

Specials should be special enemies lmfao

#

Not "here is 56 gunners have fun"

zinc phoenix
#

i slot empathic evasion so i forget gunners are in the game sometimes

white sky
fresh panther
#

I remember when they first dropped, I played a match with them and thought "Fuck, this is normal now isn't it"

white sky
#

They're the worst gd enemy in this game

ornate hamlet
#

We heard you, now tox bomber drops the grenades they're holding like the normal bomber

#

Thank you for playing our game

white sky
#

I'm not sure it would even matter to me

#

Like it's such a nothing consolidation compared to what they're doing

steep loom
#

does empyric shock work with purg staff right click?

ripe obsidian
#

Empyric Shock only procs on left-clicks.

#

It's a debuff per enemy hit, and it boosts all subsequent soulblaze

#

It's mediocre on Inferno

summer prairie
#

looks like a bunch of upcoming Hive scum talent changes

#

posted them in the other channel

plucky flax
#

Make the dodge linger great again

#

Range enemies too powerful

jovial juniper
#

Every class gets a rework ๐Ÿ—ฃ๏ธ

zealous wing
#

again ๐Ÿ˜ญ

plucky flax
#

Syllo are you back from holiday?

summer prairie
#

yes

plucky flax
#

I miss my pc. Laptop gaming sucks

summer prairie
#

it does, could never do it with a game like this

plucky flax
#

17 in is already big for laptop. Dunno if 18 will be too heavy to carry around for travelling

#

Maybe i upgrade my laptop when the 60xx gen card come out

plucky flax
#

Just need karien to carry you tomorrow

summer prairie
#

have to be today

plucky flax
#

Why?

#

What's going on tomorrow

summer prairie
#

well i need the weekly and I might derank again tomorrow

#

I guess I can just play and it stops

plucky flax
#

Oh right

#

Have to win 1 game

summer prairie
#

I guess losing counts too

zealous wing
#

onto the next

image.png
ripe obsidian
#

Welcome back, Syllo

zealous wing
#

oh yeah six

#

idk if you remember

#

in a game i died and made a comment about reapers shooting barrels, forgot to actually edit the clip

ripe obsidian
#

yeah, they've killed me like that before

#

rude boyos

ornate hamlet
#

HAH

zealous wing
#

i also found this clip of my character perfectly lining up with a hive scums

image.png
#

clipped to grab a screenshot cuz i missed

sharp shoal
#

Do I want deimos or dueling sword with trauma burst

#

For muties mostly

#

Crushers I can 2 hit most times Takes 3 with a crit without rotten armor

modest perch
#

both good

zealous wing
#

depends if you want more mobility or more control over the armour

modest perch
#

man remember when toothpick could stagger ?

#

i member

wraith sphinx
#

parry is ok but nowhere as good

#

I just use the taxe more now

hearty wolf
#

Another day, more havoc

#

Time to see what adventures we get up to

#

@hardy citrus you're awake

hardy citrus
#

Are you playing?

hearty wolf
#

I could be

modest perch
hardy citrus
# hearty wolf I could be

I'm around. I was gonna do some painting but only because I assumed nobody else would be around tbh

modest perch
#

i barely touched it on psyker since the bfg tho

hearty wolf
hardy citrus
#

does it?

#

I'm in no rush with it

#

I need to do a few little bits of red and a few bits of gold and that's about it rn

#

i also need to go out and buy another blue

#

possibly two blues

hearty wolf
#

I'll treat myself to some breakfast real quick then and let you know

hardy citrus
#

kk

hearty wolf
#

I am on 5 hours of sleep so i probs got like 3 good gaming hours in me before I need to play something easy like Nightreign

hardy citrus
hearty wolf
#

kk

#

leggo

modest perch
marble crater
zealous wing
#

literally so very close

marble crater
hearty wolf
#

What's even worse

#

is he is running shriek

zealous wing
#

the dueling sword?

hearty wolf
#

so like

#

he presses F and they die anyway

#

now they're REALLY dead

zealous wing
#

he wants to make SURE though

#

the poxxers are fuckin scary dude

hearty wolf
#

I didn't check the melee, I just saw that and instantly no'd him

modest perch
#

wtf even is unarmored

zealous wing
#

groaners

#

bombers

hearty wolf
#

but remember they aren't infested

modest perch
#

yea i know

zealous wing
#

infested are the poxwalkers

#

and hounds

modest perch
#

i meant it more ... philosophically

modest perch
#

.... i know it all too well ....

#

also u forgot snipers

summer prairie
#

Unarmored isn't that bad, the other perk is kind of whatever

zealous wing
#

unarmoured, on inferno with shriek?

#

like its not actively hurting you other than being pointless

#

those groaners are just extra dead now

summer prairie
#

It might hit some wildfire breakpoint

#

Something like unyielding barely does anything too

modest perch
#

bulwark racism

zealous wing
#

however, crit chance

summer prairie
#

Some dreg regular enemies are also unarmored

modest perch
#

is it weird that i wanna take maniac on it

deft stump
hollow summit
#

fucking game spawned my zealot in with thammer and martyrdom but with my piety curios

hardy citrus
#

@hearty wolf this vet literally plays in brazil

#

he stands so far back

hearty wolf
#

I can't with game

#

I can't do it

#

I had another overhead kited into me from the zealot

#

And this vet

#

idfk man

#

We have an entire rot pack

#

what is this waste of oxygen doing

hardy citrus
#

yep

hearty wolf
#

30 seconds later, he's still spectating

hardy citrus
#

yeah fr

#

I'm sitting there handling everything

#

and he's playing in narnia

#

Average havoc player sees a poxwalker and starts running away

hearty wolf
hardy citrus
#

What the fuck killed u

hearty wolf
#

Look again until you see it

hardy citrus
#

Oh yeah

hearty wolf
#

It's really obvious

hardy citrus
#

wtf

#

Yeah

#

Mauler overhead

hearty wolf
#

but I have 0.2 to react

hardy citrus
#

Bro walked half a mile for that hit

hearty wolf
#

or I had to see through the zealot to know what he was fighting

hardy citrus
#

I think that was the mauler no?

#

Idk thatโ€™s just wild

#

This is part of why I hate rot

#

Lots of overheads u just canโ€™t see

hearty wolf
#

I had a rocket but I didn't think it was dangerous enough to use it, we still had room

hardy citrus
#

It was fine if vet helped

hearty wolf
#

but I don't get how to prevent shit like this without being a inferno purg pussy bitch or run toxic scum

#

probs but he's holding 3 rooms back to make sure specials don't flank us cos if 1 trapper comes, we're dead

hardy citrus
#

Lmfao

#

U know the first try?

#

We were at the door

#

And he was literally in the starting corridor

hearty wolf
#

I saw

#

Then when he was last one alive

#

used all his plasma ammo to shoot the crushers

#

instead of the one flamer raping him

hardy citrus
#

yeah

#

idk it's just a bit fucked

low merlin
#

Who wastes plasma gun ammo like that?

#

They stuff's not easy to get.

#

You get so little per ammo box.

deft stump
radiant frigate
#

sedition gaming

low merlin
#

Oh

deft stump
#

And bosses, if not forced, is rare anyway.

#

Unless event.

#

That event led to 7 bosses on uprising.

#

Hilariously.

summer prairie
hearty wolf
deft stump
# summer prairie

Tell them, if someone with 300 ping does okay without bubble, you babies need a diaper change from all the loose tantrums.

zealous wing
radiant frigate
summer prairie
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One of the players in that game was a lone wolf shock mine arby and used his mines 3 times in 25 minutes

hearty wolf
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?????

summer prairie
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there was also a blackout scum who threw 8 blackouts, seems low

radiant siren
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No fuckin' way the game drops this for me the game after I max out my dueling sword

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That's a good joke Big E

deft stump