#psyker-class

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hearty wolf
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Unless you want to gamble

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Or you're cringe enough to use bubble

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Which means you're taking an hour on the mission anyway 😭

deft stump
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Still waiting for massive downvotes and complains about it.

thorn cedar
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wall gang wall gang

knotty saddle
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what is the dodge linger dooming about

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idk enough about the game to know what that means really

deft stump
knotty saddle
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I dont know what it means to be back to how it was before

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I only picked the game back up recently lol

deft stump
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Then take it as a nerf.

knotty saddle
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NOOOO

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nerf how?

deft stump
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You now can't dodge ranged like you can before.

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Think playing oggies.

knotty saddle
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aw man

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but dealing with gunners is the least fun part of the game...

deft stump
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The reason why they get shot so much.

knotty saddle
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oh boy I got shredded from 30m away by a unit I couldnt see

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... fun...

deft stump
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And silent snipers.

deft stump
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And if you have any dodge extenders, they only work for melee.

quartz barn
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Gunners have a soundqueue tho

deft stump
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So you could be shot while technically still in dodge animation.

deft stump
quartz barn
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Prox sound does ye

deft stump
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I have fully silent boomers before.

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Not even the explosion made noises. All I know is half my hp went poof and corruption.

knotty saddle
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I feel like half of my runs that are going well while im pushing havoc get rekt by silent specials

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theres so much visual clutter in this game that I super rely on my hearing

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its very demotivating

deft stump
knotty saddle
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wait are you blind

deft stump
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I still find it funny how L4D2 came way before and the sound cues work better.

deft stump
knotty saddle
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kinda hydrogen bomb vs coughing baby

deft stump
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Basically fail any of those anti-bot things telling you to go from lightest to darkest since I see 3 colours out of the 9 squares.

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At best.

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So when you throw a cream filter or a full on green filter... yeah.

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1 colour screen + UI.

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Lights out is just as terrible. Plus the ingame flashlights suck.

hearty wolf
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Oh wait

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Nevermind, become swiss cheese NOW

deft stump
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Where is like 10000 lumen flashlights?

hearty wolf
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Even though the game I still think is way harder

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Like darktide has way better actual mechanics but left for dead is insanely punishing

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It took me a really long time to get to grips with expert and having a 100% success rate compared to havoc where the win con is "Can you press S? GG"

summer prairie
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What, expert is super free

hearty wolf
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I did not find that to be the case xd

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I have no clue why

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A lot of the finale events I'd just fold for seemingly no reason

deft stump
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Hell, you can even hear the witch better, though, I do have music mods that kinda makes it more obvious. Just because it's funny when bot enrages her.

hearty wolf
hearty wolf
summer prairie
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I can't compare since I haven't played l4d in a very long time and it's hard to remember how it felt like when you just started playing. But it's a very easy game once you know how to play

hearty wolf
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Yeah I haven't played it in about 10 years or so. Maybe I was just worse at games or something.

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I vaguely remember hordes being a pain in the ass to manage. I'll install it and see

deft stump
summer prairie
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You just spam melee in a corner or something and hordes did nothing

deft stump
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Errr, fireaxe.

hearty wolf
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Yeah see, I didn't use melee. That might have been a contributing factor lul

deft stump
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Always sharp melee.

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Knoife got buffed btw.

hearty wolf
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Smoker tongues chop chop

deft stump
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Back to old hit areas.

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Uber fast.

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Also sharp.

hearty wolf
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I assume it was just lack of experience since I never struggled with Helldivers when it was a lot more oppressive

deft stump
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Is a bad idea when some finales be likes... 10 inf spawning tanks chases party.

hearty wolf
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Tonk

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Tanks wish they could be Chaos Spawn

deft stump
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Lul.

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We actually did edit it to that, reverted to 10k after a finale dumped 24 tanks on us.

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You know when you have to activate the slow ammo regen mod, something is off.

knotty saddle
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do inferno staffs stack?

deft stump
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We have all those cos custom maps tend to be jank.

knotty saddle
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well they're hard in terms of

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youre probably gonna have to trial and error with lots of deaths

deft stump
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Some even have so little ammo, is like they wanna be survival horror but no melee.

hearty wolf
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So in other words

deft stump
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Yet bs horde spawns is still there.

hearty wolf
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They stack very, very poorly

hearty wolf
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If you literally just run around a boss for 2m

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To get a sense of what it can do

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Then you just know your punishes

deft stump
hearty wolf
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But obviously that's boring as fuck because why learn the boss movement when you can spam attack and then get caught in waterfowl dance

knotty saddle
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dont really have to change my build even

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(probably should but idk the builds well enough to quickswap in lobby)

deft stump
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I only recognise my havoc zealot build by it even out of order since still V.

dull scroll
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pack it up

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good times is over

knotty saddle
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or im FINISHED

jovial juniper
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Huh
Patch notes

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Really

deft stump
jovial juniper
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A man of your talents

deft stump
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You had to manually google the forums.

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Then find the thread.

zealous wing
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did they fix mm

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or did they fix some penances not working and didnt bother fixing the way its written yet

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they did not

deft stump
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Lul.

frail oar
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🤣

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Can't fix things without breaking a few other things Fatshark stuff

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Just glad they focused on performance the game has been playing like shit

quartz barn
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Performance update was for lower end machines like steam's console tho

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You'll most likely only notice a difference if your connection to the server was really poor

frail oar
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That was the memory portion but there's a separate line for general stability and network performance. I've got a 4700 super and have been having problems for weeks.

low merlin
zealous wing
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you also cant do quickplay, it will override private game setting

low merlin
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Ahh, okay. Thanks.

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I know No Man's Land has a guaranteed monstrosity spawn.

deft stump
hardy citrus
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@hearty wolf I’ll be around today probably uhhh… 2 hours earlier than yesterday. Can’t do @time because on mobile. Idk if u wanna try today

hearty wolf
oblique atlas
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anybody tested out suicide psyker is it semi reliable for crushers?

jovial juniper
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For Crushers?????

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That's a no, big dawg

oblique atlas
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but bombaclat

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im hitting the psykanium right now

jovial juniper
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You ain't dealing enough damage to it with a weak ass explosion like that

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That being said

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Get a force sword with uncanny

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And like executor

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Or slaughterer

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Stack both then spam your special into exploding while both buffs are up

ancient shadow
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alright @zealous wing i might need help with custom hud. wtf do i move to get the buff bar i just created into a different place

oblique atlas
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yy it only did 1300 to flak its around 80 % so not that reliable

zealous wing
plucky flax
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Patch not out on steam yet?

zealous wing
deft stump
plucky flax
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Aye I think it downloaded dunno when cos it doesn't show anything in the download history.

ripe obsidian
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"Fixed an issue that was causing the Stimm Supply to get stuck in the player's hands after trying to place it."

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Frabjous day

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"Reverted an unintended change introduced in 1.10.3 that made weapon specific dodge linger time affect incoming ranged attacks.

Reverted an unintended change that allowed dodge stats from talent trees to also impact incoming ranged damage."

Time to see if I can still play the game.

deft stump
ripe obsidian
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I can suck at 60 ping. :D

zealous wing
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fatshark needs to fix the random "cant ping shit" bug

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i dont notice it a ton when on any other class, but on arby, god DAMN it just cost me a clutch 😭

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cant wait for a mod for guarenteed ping to go along with guarentee weapon swap and guarentee ability activation

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and guarentee bltz

plucky flax
willow hull
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what are the dump stats on each staff?

zealous wing
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warp resistance, except on voidstrike, which is blast radius

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not to be confused with voidblast, which is also warp resistance

willow hull
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ty!!

frail oar
odd swallow
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why psyker start with gun its the psychic class

jovial juniper
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Because 40k

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We arm the wizards

hardy citrus
jovial juniper
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That muhfuh right there

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Carrying 9 mags

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Of 9mm

hardy citrus
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Oh right ur an hour ahead

jovial juniper
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He also keeps a Glock with a switch

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If the Arby's tithes him

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He's going to jail

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Think about him the funny way

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He gon mag you down

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You think I'm joking

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Even Rogue Trader kept the psyker strapped

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Idira, your psyker companion

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First time you meet her, she has a staff AND a Laspistol

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But her early game sucks so you give her a sniper

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Call it a day

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In fact more settings should arm their wizards

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Yes I do understand that you can cast the wrath of the gods and tear the whole space time continuum apart

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But swapping to your pistol is faster than chugging your bottle of mana

bright pebble
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So I’m curious, what’s the difference between the 3 blaze force swords

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If i play psyker I stick to the greatsword, but sometimes I think about toying around with the blaze force again

hardy citrus
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And a decent horde clear chain

knotty saddle
bright pebble
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Yeah both blaze and great sword, push attack is an even stronger push that can knock crushers on their ass

hearty wolf
hardy citrus
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Are you uk?

hearty wolf
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Yes lol

hardy citrus
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Neat

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There’s dozens of us

hearty wolf
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Ye

bright pebble
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I’m trying to use more weapons with versatile movesets

hardy citrus
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They’re not super versatile imo? But they all have jobs they do very well

bright pebble
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Ones that require any amount of thought lol

hardy citrus
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Deimos is fantastic defensive Obscurus is offensive

bright pebble
hardy citrus
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Relic blade also likes a slight offset to the side

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Obscurus is straight up

plucky flax
bright pebble
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Do i want an offset to the left or right

hardy citrus
hardy citrus
bright pebble
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Lmao, fair

plucky flax
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There's Karien from SG but playing on UK timezone.

hardy citrus
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@hearty wolf ok will be around for rest of the evening in like 40.

plucky flax
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I can play now if you want.

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1 or 2 games before bed.

deft stump
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FS said they made game run better on low end PCs. I see no change in FPS, still lower than last Xmas looking at walls.

jovial juniper
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Confirmed
Karien doesn't have a low end pc

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#fraudwatch

hoary mauve
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It made things worse for me 😅

hardy citrus
plucky flax
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Got 2 leavers in my game

hardy citrus
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it's ok

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give me like 2 min for the update

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@hearty wolf around now if u wanna join me and agent

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@plucky flax ok im around now whenever u finish ur run

plucky flax
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Okay I'mma just quit I cba

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This guy is on ps5 too so he kinda sucks

hardy citrus
bright pebble
plucky flax
bright pebble
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Solo it out of sheer spite

plucky flax
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It's comms plex

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I can't solo mid event on psyker.

hardy citrus
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what modifiers

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@hearty wolf last call

plucky flax
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Goop and rampage (orange)

hardy citrus
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i hope this didn't break mods

plucky flax
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Brb forgot my laundry

hardy citrus
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lemme know when ur back so i can join req

deft stump
deft stump
plucky flax
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Sure if you say so. staregryn

plucky flax
hardy citrus
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@zealous wing do u wanna join me and agent if they're comin back?

plucky flax
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I'm logging back in.

hardy citrus
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scum has bonesaw

zealous wing
deft stump
ripe obsidian
bright pebble
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This is good news if so

ripe obsidian
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It was a bad changed added to appease people complaining about scum and get more sales over the holidays

buoyant maple
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Not a huge deal nimble still giga op and jittery still too good

bright pebble
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Honestly I’ve never had issue with dodging ranged attacks

buoyant maple
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But it does make ranged a bit more threatening

bright pebble
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Just sprint or slide a bunch to close gaps

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Easy

buoyant maple
bright pebble
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Ah

hardy citrus
ripe obsidian
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Gunners are a significant threat

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Not as much as 6 flamers at once

hardy citrus
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or a single tox bomber kekW

ripe obsidian
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Or a conga line of 4 bursters chaining

hardy citrus
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but yeah flames still a problem

buoyant maple
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Biggest threat is always those 3 toxbombers 50m away behind cover

bright pebble
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It feels like people have no concept of target priority at times

hardy citrus
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yeah tox bombers are really annoying

bright pebble
ripe obsidian
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Tox bombers are the worst

hardy citrus
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a mission with tox bombers is like twice as hard as a mission with scab ngl

buoyant maple
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The last time FS added a new enemy that didn’t break the game was winter 2023

ripe obsidian
hardy citrus
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can they like

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not make the tox clouds last 20 seconds

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and not be the size of africa?

bright pebble
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Im ngl, ive genuinely never had trouble with plasma gunners

buoyant maple
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I think pox gas needs to get tuned down significantly

hardy citrus
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yeah i agree

buoyant maple
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First off make outline not disabled if player inside gas

hardy citrus
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outline?

ripe obsidian
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Plasma gunners were a problem

buoyant maple
bright pebble
hardy citrus
buoyant maple
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You can tag enemy and they won’t be outlined for u

bright pebble
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I remember the event

hardy citrus
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Oh shit really?

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tat's so stupid

buoyant maple
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Yea it’s specifically coded to be like that

bright pebble
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I still never got blasted by them

hardy citrus
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i feel like the clouds need to just not be as big and not last so long

buoyant maple
# zealous wing

I played whole day with fucking martyr TH when plasma gunner first dropped

bright pebble
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I run knife zealot a lot i got the schizophrenia gameplay down

buoyant maple
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Genuinely abysmal experience

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Hit 1 guy, self stun, get quadruple penetrated by plasma shots

ripe obsidian
bright pebble
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Well there’s your issue

buoyant maple
bright pebble
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Always be sliding, idc what weapon you use

buoyant maple
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Or do both slightly

bright pebble
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Just how players never look up, enemies never aim down when you’re sliding

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Just don’t slide at dogs or trappers

buoyant maple
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There’re currently only 2 classes that can tank pox gas

bright pebble
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Anything can tank tox gas if you can have fast enough toughness regen

buoyant maple
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Well

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Not quite

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Because pox gas has a -30% toughness replenishment modifier

bright pebble
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I see

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Just kill harder then maenod

buoyant maple
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Your 10%/s is actually just 7%/s and pox gas’s damage ramps up

bright pebble
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(I give very good advice)

buoyant maple
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Only stance vet and rebreather arb can properly tank gas

buoyant maple
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Congratulations your 10% becomes 4%

bright pebble
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Ive done ok on zealot with martyrdom

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Restorative verses helps

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Paired with the cleave on relic blade

jovial juniper
buoyant maple
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For the amount of bs those tox bombers can put out they might as well be perma outlined with a flashing glow that’s visible through walls

bright pebble
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Also i think the reason ive never had trouble with plasma gunners is because the speed of knife zealot lets me close gaps and force them to pull out melee

hardy citrus
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and u just cant get to them

buoyant maple
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Stance da wae

hardy citrus
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aren't gunners meant to stop shooting when u get close too

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can we fix that too

buoyant maple
hardy citrus
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ah ok

buoyant maple
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Stagger causes them to stop and maybe melee tho

ripe obsidian
bright pebble
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Idk what it is I’ve just never encountered that

hardy citrus
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@plucky flax

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do u have scoreboard?

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before u go

plucky flax
hardy citrus
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oh wow arby did a tiny amount

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26 damage is crazy

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wait

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that was so close to true survivor

plucky flax
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Snipers were out to get me these rounds.

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They shot through some tiny holes in the fence.

hardy citrus
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yeah they always do that shit i hate it so much

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because it's impossible to shoot back

next pine
bright pebble
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usually down them before toughness break

ripe obsidian
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Plasma gunners were also hardcoded, I believe, to always do 100% toughness damage

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As in, always break toughness

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Not sure on that point

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I would need to check the code

jovial juniper
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It is very in line with captains plasma breaking toughness

silent jewel
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Which mark for the blaze force greatsword should I use and what blessings

ripe obsidian
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Mk6

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Carapace/Unyielding, unstable power/shred or riposte

deft stump
fading hedge
# plucky flax

Which scoreboard mod is this? I have one but it doesnt work well, and with the patch I might as well see if I can get a better one working

zealous wing
fading hedge
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Damn, I had trouble getting ovenproof working

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Thanks nonetheless

hardy citrus
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i need to set a scoreboard up like sins

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sin has a nice one actually

autumn moth
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smite psyker shouting GET EM BOYS into a crinkly $5 mic as he sticks his lightning hands out is way funnier than i thought

verbal thistle
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Forgot

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Might be thinking of snipers

radiant siren
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@verbal thistle What's your go-to for doing big damage to bosses? I can clear chaff easily enough with the trauma staff, but I struggle doing big damage to bosses unless it's like... nurgle beast eye.

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What should I aim to be doing?

radiant siren
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Yeah? I was using the Force Sword your build recommended. Been using the staff as the primary weapon.

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What combo should I use with Force Sword?

verbal thistle
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heavy

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heavy

hardy citrus
verbal thistle
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heavy

radiant siren
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Just heavy spam?

verbal thistle
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if you want to poke fast, light light heavy

hardy citrus
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what weapon?

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deimos?

verbal thistle
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mk6 FGS

hardy citrus
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oh

verbal thistle
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light for trash horde

hardy citrus
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For a staff build dont u run regular force sword

radiant siren
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Deimos is what I'm using

hardy citrus
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it's either light heavy or just heavy spam for single target

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im not sure which is better

radiant siren
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This is the build, Ainz made it. It works really well until I fight a boss but I'm pretty sure that's a skill issue on my end.

hardy citrus
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some builds do just generally have less boss damage

verbal thistle
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melee dance with them

hardy citrus
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yeah

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gotta learn how to fight them

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if it's something like a chaos spawn or the plogryn 3 hit combo

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dont be afraid to hold block whilst u try and dodge until u get the timing down

radiant siren
verbal thistle
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yeah

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this one

radiant siren
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Yea, I had it open

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So now I'm curious, what's your favorite build?

verbal thistle
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uh

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I dont have a fav

fading hedge
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Someone walks into your room and points a gun at your head and demands you pick a build, which one do you pick?

verbal thistle
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obscurus double barrel probably

fading hedge
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Is that one you linked?

verbal thistle
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its close to that

radiant siren
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Any build you'd recommend for learning Psyker? Or just pick a build and go?

verbal thistle
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leveling and learning or at max level and want to learn more

radiant siren
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Max level and want to learn more

verbal thistle
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I'd say this is very safe and friendly for people just looking to learn

fading hedge
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I used to run a build like that

verbal thistle
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alot of dr and toughness regen. BB with EP to help ranged fights and specials and shriek is just free horde clear

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literally the talent tree covers both roles your weapons do

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single target and horde clear

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so this means you can pick and weapon

fading hedge
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Then I discovered the wonders of Scriers Gaze

verbal thistle
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gaze is the strongest ability by far

radiant siren
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I tried running the meta 40 build and it's just so god damn boring

modest perch
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also coolest

radiant siren
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hold flame, drop shield, occasionally melee an enemy that gets past your teammates

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I get that it's good but I can't stand playing it

modest perch
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meta is debatable anyways man

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up to a certain point

ripe obsidian
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Okay, so they do like 300 toughness damage

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Reduced by like half from launch

verbal thistle
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was thinking of plasma

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it is 3x toughness damage

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so 315 toughness damage

ripe obsidian
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But plasma gunners also ignore this: "When toughness reaches 0, the power level of incoming enemy ranged hit scan attacks is reduced by a specific amount for a specific duration; does not apply to the attack that breaks toughness. Shotgunner shotgun blasts and Plasma Gunner shots are excluded and ignore toughness broken grace."

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So the rapid-fire plasma gunners just shredded you

hardy citrus
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inferno is the strongest build

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by far id probably say

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like

radiant siren
hardy citrus
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no unsanctioned is someone else in this channel

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I'm Valerie

hollow summit
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Is it safe to assume that las pistol has the same adm as ilas

hardy citrus
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no it isnt

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they have different

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99% sure

weary idol
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ilas has higher ADMs into maniacs, worse into every other health type iirc

hollow summit
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Hm interesting

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But I still aint doing jack to carapace yes?

hardy citrus
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not with any gun on psyker i dont think

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but yeah if u want to do damage to cara with a lasgun u need to be on vet i think

hollow summit
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Need helbore

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Other las weapons barely scratch the paint

ripe obsidian
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In terms of performance, this Psyker did fine. I am not diminishing their contributions. But this is an example of why Inferno on its own is not the broken damage source people claim

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It requires other things to make it broken

hardy citrus
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it'll make a bad/okay player perform better than they would otherwise

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and a good player do this

ripe obsidian
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That Unsanctioned guy doesn't seem very good. Only 50% damage more than the second place person?

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@crisp ether what is your psyker's name?

crisp ether
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Haven't recalled seeing ya around if that's why you're asking.

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I was playing yesterday

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Back and forth between Scum and Psyker.

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I also hate Power Matrix with every fiber of my being

formal dew
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What's the best keystone for a pyro pysker build?

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also, what's the best perks for the fire staff? I'm using penetration flame and showstopper atm

crisp ether
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For inferno staff. The usual culprits are Blaze Away and Warp Nexus

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For keystone

formal dew
crisp ether
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I mean, the keystones don't exactly matter that much for the staff itself.

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Showstopper is just

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Not great.

formal dew
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I already have brain burst, so anything that spreads more soulblaze is good for me

raw garnet
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Warp charge ? Since soulblaze kills have a chance to give you a stack

crisp ether
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Yeah that's fair actually.

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But uh

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Showstopper's explosioms

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I'm pretty sure those don't actually spread soulblaze

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The enemies just explode if they die to soulblaze

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But the explosion doesn't propagate dots. It's a light staggering explosion that doesn't do a lot of damage.

raw garnet
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I'm not seeing anything called showstopper for psyker, only thing I see is a flamer blessing for zealot

zealous wing
crisp ether
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It's on inferno staff. They share that blessing

raw garnet
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You right

modest perch
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not sure what they were going for with that blessing ... like all the horde around them died first anyways

formal dew
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I'm still experimenting with Perks and whatnot

crisp ether
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🤷‍♀️

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Showstopper is just a weird one.

formal dew
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I'd never used it before

ripe obsidian
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they swapped to laspistol for the second game, though

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Shotgunners are angry as hell this patch. I am a little scared to play a non-Arby class and not have my shield to catch their shots

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Just had 2 games in a row where my only death was a single shotgunner while I was disabled.

buoyant maple
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somehow someway psyker gets blasted by shotgunners more than any other class

buoyant maple
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it's just funny that psyker always seem to be the one class that gets jumped by shotgunner and insta dies

ripe obsidian
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First game was a c spawn grabbing me, second was my brain short-circuiting as I watched a trapper get me

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I watched it happen and did nothing, ha

ripe obsidian
#

I played the same as I did before

buoyant maple
#

even when havoc first released

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I distinctly remember it's always psykers getting insta blasted by shotgunner

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full hp to down in <1s

ripe obsidian
#

I gotta say, BtL + shield arby feels amazing into anything not blight or final toll. Just did 2 rot + orange missions and I felt immovable

buoyant maple
#

toll u can play around too

ripe obsidian
#

Find something resembling a chokepoint and let nothing pass

buoyant maple
#

just need someone to dps check things before they get up from stagger

ripe obsidian
#

This is true

formal dew
#

Do people just lose all idea of how to play on rolling steel?

buoyant maple
#

if ur LW u can dps check most things urself tbh

buoyant maple
#

btl + arb vig gives quite a lot of extra dmg for a while

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btl +25% dmg for 6s
arb vig +25% str

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big dmg

ripe obsidian
#

Yes

formal dew
ripe obsidian
#

But I have been using doggo

formal dew
#

Psyker is really good in that mission, but I can't carry everything:(

ripe obsidian
#

Doggo + doggo bomb ends up doing like 40% of my total damage

buoyant maple
#

dog op

ripe obsidian
#

Arguably the worst class for clutching.

formal dew
#

It heavily depends on if I have venting shriek or stacks on my force greatsword

ripe obsidian
#

Not as fast as scum or Zealot, not as much CC as oggy or arby

formal dew
#

If I have either, I can reliably wipe a horde

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force greatsword has to be one of the best designed weapons ever

ripe obsidian
#

Hordes aren't usually the clutch stopper in Havoc

formal dew
#

No it's probably a trapper or a scab mauler

buoyant maple
buoyant maple
ripe obsidian
#

Note that Path does not care for Psyker on the whole.

formal dew
buoyant maple
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if I was actually hating psyker I'd say some bs like delete class

formal dew
#

I can't really think of anything thats as good as it except for duelling sword or devil's claw

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I'm an absolute sucker for a parry ability though

buoyant maple
# formal dew How so?

inf cleave with extended stagger duration is pretty busted
but moreso the optimal horde combo is cursed

prime elk
buoyant maple
crisp ether
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Wasn't me

buoyant maple
formal dew
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why do that when you can stab someone in the head with a Greatsword though

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yes I use the increased heavy damage variant

ripe obsidian
ripe obsidian
#

Swap canceling is too much work

ripe obsidian
buoyant maple
#

they made rampage the stance-like ability with downside after expiring

ripe obsidian
#

Fatshark thinks gaining peril automatically is a downside

buoyant maple
#

maybe 2026 psyker gets nerfed proper who knows

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ranged hvs and ranged og rumbler also need to get looked at

ripe obsidian
#

I hate rumbler Ogryn with a passion

prime elk
#

surely the extremely broken outliers will be fixed

indigo plank
#

The Great 2026 Psyker Crisis

prime elk
#

2026 is the year

indigo plank
#

Space wizards on suicide watch when Scriers gets nerfed by 3%

buoyant maple
#

95+ deserved nerfs

indigo plank
#

I feel like it’s often tough for me to weigh in on a lot of balancing stuffs because I don’t play Havoc

buoyant maple
buoyant maple
indigo plank
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I’ve played enough that I can generally run literally anything in Aurics and be fine, but that doesn’t mean that everything is good

ripe obsidian
indigo plank
#

Like I was playing Gary Guardsman over the weekend with the infantry las

buoyant maple
#

it also depends on what metric ur going off of

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most psyker players that play auric/havoc are entirely "haha dmg number brrrr"

indigo plank
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Downs/Deaths mostly

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Along with just general kill performance

buoyant maple
#

and have no understanding of what good performance is

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because they think dmg = performance

indigo plank
#

I don’t expect to be full gold with an infantry las but if I take at least 2 categories with barely any damage taken and no downs, I consider that pretty decent

buoyant maple
#

but psyker is comparatively one of the weaker classes in solo/duo context despite their insane dmg scaling vs density

indigo plank
#

Really? Is it because aggro can be so much more punishing when you don’t have other people to pull loose gunner trash?

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Well actually shit

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Flame staff/assail just decimates gunner trash

radiant siren
#

@verbal thistle For your disrupt destiny build, why did you pick these stats for the laspistol?

buoyant maple
#

compared to other classes anyway

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psyker is just really good at capitalizing on the space made by others

indigo plank
#

Fair enough yeah. Doesn’t really have an area denial grenade to just do obj’s solo

buoyant maple
#

and scale absurd dmg vs density

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prob best example would be like

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try solo commsplex

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first event

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genuine cancer

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@verbal thistle knows

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even duo that event is pretty cancer

indigo plank
#

I can see how lacking something like Arby shock mine, Scum soup can, Zealot immo etc can be brutal in duos yeah

buoyant maple
#

I think vet/hvs + arb is my fav duo (excluding ranged hvs)

indigo plank
#

Esp since psyker gets knocked OUT of the mini games

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I have one homie I might trust to duo but I don’t think he’s quite there yet

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But he’s def got it in him

buoyant maple
#

duo auric more fun than pub havoc

indigo plank
#

I believe that wholeheartedly

buoyant maple
#

at least ur choosing a custom-tailored cbt experience

indigo plank
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He’s gotten to the point where unless something horrific happens, we can pretty handily corpse drag two shitters in HISTG

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But the mistakes he does make show that his fundamentals are still developing so…Soon™

buoyant maple
#

objectively speaking, smoother runs are ones u finish faster

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so u don't get to dmg farm much

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and usually that means nobody gets particularly high dmg numbers

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and dmg number gets affected by far too many things

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enemies' hitzone dmg multipliers

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mutators having DR

indigo plank
#

Yeah most solo runs I’ve seen are folks spamming heavies with a knife to just blitz through large chunks of the map quickly while just killing enough to avoid damage

buoyant maple
#

tru solo usually is ~1hr even for auric

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outside of the sections u actually need to blitz through

weary idol
indigo plank
#

I currently struggle to teach my newbie friends because I’m so much more tenured than the group I play with now. There are a lot of times they get caught out alone or drag far behind

It’s not so much that I’m or anyone else is running ahead, I’m just dodging and mulching horde but I do it in a forward direction. They just kind of kite mindlessly and wind up 40m behind in the last room

weary idol
#

why the FUCK do flamers take SEVENTY percent LESS damage when you hit their HIGHLY FLAMMABLE GAS TANK

buoyant maple
#

aren't they x20% vs ranged

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80% reduction

weary idol
#

FUCK IT'S WORSE THAN I THOUGHT

buoyant maple
#

and people wonder why I say combat shotgun at best mid tier

weary idol
#

only fucking game where a flamethrower enemy having an exploding gas tank is actively a bad thing and something I want removed

buoyant maple
#

u will lose until u win

weary idol
#

especially because it's fucking fire barrel fire so it damages you straight through your toughness

buoyant maple
#

but unlike solo where it's just u banging ur head against a wall alone

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u get 2 people to do it at the same time

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it feels worse less when u lose

ripe obsidian
#

I'd also say, depending on the build, Psyker can help a lot in making space

verbal thistle
ripe obsidian
#

Even if they aren't making it themselves

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Forward bubbles, aggressive shriek, using EE to dive into gunners, etc.

verbal thistle
ripe obsidian
#

As Psyker, I am usually in front of everyone unless there's a rot wall advancing

supple onyx
#

Whats the best setup for blaze force sword when using flamestaff

verbal thistle
#

1 handed or 2?

supple onyx
#

1

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I just hate the duelsword

verbal thistle
#

deimos/obscurus warp res dump, maniac/unyielding/cara Uncanny + unstable/deflector

ripe obsidian
#

Or superiority

indigo plank
# buoyant maple it feels worse less when u lose

A big downside of not being a lexicon of knowledge is that he won’t listen when I say he might wanna take +crit chance off of his shotgun because he’s like “with 3 stacks of WS I have guaranteed crits” lagiCri

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So if I hard carry a match, unless he actually notices that I stole like 97% of the kills he’ll just assume his setup is working fine

weary idol
#

Zarona hits hard on crits

indigo plank
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It’s a DB

weary idol
#

what the fuck is he smoking

indigo plank
#

IIRC it’s 10% crit chance for the perk

weary idol
#

perk is 5%

indigo plank
#

30% ish for weapon spec each stack

ripe obsidian
indigo plank
#

So he’s convinced he gets guaranteed crits off the combo

weary idol
ripe obsidian
indigo plank
#

He refuses to install any mods

weary idol
#

oh actually WS does say 33% crit chance per stack

indigo plank
#

Yeah

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I’ve tried, dawg

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I don’t wanna be a backseat gamer and he says he’s having fun so like

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I just don’t wanna lose another competent player

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He’s got mechanical skill, it’s just that no matter how much I iterate “rounding is stupid and sometimes you just gotta defer to the math nerds” he does his own math

ripe obsidian
#

@buoyant maple what, would you say, defines a "good" Psyker performance? I agree that even Trauma Psyker is mediocre at making space, and I agree that Psyker works best when capitalizing on space someone else has made.

supple onyx
verbal thistle
#

single target is very poor

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and you said paired with purg staff

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illisi only does horde clear

zealous wing
buoyant maple
indigo plank
#

Oh my mistake, he runs the 10% crit damage on his DB not the crit chance.

He mentioned the WS interaction because that’s where the guaranteed crit comes from

indigo plank
#

I must’ve misheard the other night but he conveniently popped in and I asked about his setup

indigo plank
#

It is always funny to brief new friends with a version of, “most information is going to come from assorted forum threads and the discord channels rather than the actual game”

#

I’ll be so excited if they ever revamp the Psykhanium

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Basically everything the enemy spawner mod gives, without frequently crashing my game lol

buoyant maple
#

creature spawner shouldn't be causing crashes

verbal thistle
#

@ripe obsidian

modest perch
#

at least he brought balloon pogryn

indigo plank
#

I’ve got something causing infrequent out of memory errors. Usually when I’m in my inventory or swapping chars

buoyant maple
verbal thistle
#

he's cooking

indigo plank
#

Gotta do a purge and install just the bare essentials until I figure out the culprit

buoyant maple
indigo plank
#

Yeah, also got the memleakfix mod

crisp ether
verbal thistle
#

level 1k?

crisp ether
#

What's their name?

verbal thistle
#

idk

verbal thistle
#

I only have steam names

crisp ether
#

Heck.

indigo plank
#

Not home atm or I’d send the list

crisp ether
#

Actually they weren't over 1000 tho

indigo plank
#

It’s mostly all little stuff like true level, red weapons at home, etc

#

I don’t use anything heavy like disco Aquila or Weapon Customization/FTD

buoyant maple
#

I use super basic

FXlimiter
ConstantFov
danger_zone
show_crit_chance
InspectFromSocial
creature_spawner
GlobalStore
LessDoT

indigo plank
#

Might be LogMeIn because it’s just kinda broken atm

#

I’ve got def got danger zone, inspect from social, global store

#

Global store is so good

fading hedge
#

Does it allow you to access the shop from anywhere on the mourningstar?

buoyant maple
#

so if ur loaded in as vet for example u can see all of ur other characters' items

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and buy from there

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without having to load into them

fading hedge
#

Ooooph, thats super nice, no more character hopping

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I took a screenshot, going to check those mods out when I get home

ripe obsidian
verbal thistle
#

they are indeed

ripe obsidian
#

Then so be it

verbal thistle
#

@ripe obsidian took like 2k damage and after we won went to purg

loud girder
#

he's just playing tank blast psyker

verbal thistle
ripe obsidian
verbal thistle
#

7-8

ripe obsidian
#

I'd also say firestick and splodeystick are fairly evenly matched in terms of power

#

Splodeystick has more utility

radiant siren
crisp ether
#

I've grown to realize VB is honestly crazy good

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Even for stuff like Final Toll.

radiant siren
#

VB is incredible especially if you have another psyker already running flame

#

the CC is invaluable

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Pick a target and say "That group in particular isn't allowed to move"

ripe obsidian
hollow summit
#

I should try it 🤔

leaden geode
#

Ran with 2 stomp staff psykers and a crusher arby recently. Nothing was on its feet for longer than a second. Dunno how good that comp is, but it's funny as hell

hollow summit
#

Likely poor boss damage

leaden geode
#

We did get murdered by a twins family reunion (that's where they invite a captain and some ogryn uncles to the party)

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But who cares, chuckles were had by all!

ripe obsidian
#

Note that we killed a boss before this, so it was 6 total. At least 6.

plucky flax
#

Anyone wanna do early morning havoc?

ripe obsidian
#

What modifiers?

plucky flax
#

Red and goop

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Warren 619

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If your map is better id play yours

ripe obsidian
#

ehhhhhhhh, goop is unfun

#

lemme check what I have

plucky flax
#

Im playing crate scum so

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Goop is a non factor for me but if im a bit ahead of team ppl might not get the immunity

ripe obsidian
#

I have relay rot + orange

#

I'm down to play one

#

Then I must snooze

plucky flax
#

Good plan

#

My laptop died

#

I will come back in 4 mins xd

ripe obsidian
#

lordy

ripe obsidian
#

That veteran was one of the players of all time.

plucky flax
#

Tru

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He was pretty invisible

ripe obsidian
#

Can you give me the scoreboard? I lost mine when I crashed

#

Well, got error 2014'd

plucky flax
ripe obsidian
#

Not ideal.

buoyant maple
#

Insane tac axe build

restive slate
#

Question, is the Boltpistol bleed effect on FGS special when switching intended?

patent jacinth
#

Take a wild guess

restive slate
#

Also I wish the Soulblaze on Crit + Confirmed Crit on Special Blessing on FGS worked together

safe token
#

I wish the confirmed crit on special blessing didn't exist

ripe obsidian
#

@plucky flax that was that scum's first time doing anything above H35, going by penances

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Also, that map appears to be broken

plucky flax
#

He has 30 clearance.

ripe obsidian
#

I didn't even look, ha

plucky flax
#

And his build is not too good for goop.

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He has too long cdr on crate.

ripe obsidian
#

How did I do?

ripe obsidian
plucky flax
#

When I dc at around 34 mins I think we were within 100k damage of each others.

ripe obsidian
#

I'm going to say that's good

#

I'm still iffy on whether or not I want ER on Blazing Trauma + Shriek.

#

Haven't been using ER, but I am wondering if it would make much of a difference in casting uptime versus tapping quell

plucky flax
#

We had such specials problem so I wanted to go surge surge to snipe. PeepoHappy

ripe obsidian
#

I think when I crashed you were about 100k specials damage up on me

#

like 300k vs 200k

#

Still, I am fairly pleased with myself for keeping up with you.

#

If you have a blazing trauma build, I am curious to see it.

#

I was also amazed I survived the Bulwark sandwich after I reconnected and we had killed the boss.

#

If you have a clip of that, I am curious of your perspective

#

To me it was like 8 bulwarks, however many ragers, and a burster incoming

plucky flax
#

My instant reply got turned off after my laptop reset and I forgot to turn it back on

#

I did hit save after that

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But ye nothing got saved

ripe obsidian
#

Ah well

#

It felt like a pretty good duo clutch there.

plucky flax
# ripe obsidian If you have a blazing trauma build, I am curious to see it.

Fairly similar build to purg just some small differences. Worse dot damage for more range/cc. Overall I think purg is stronger but this has better range to help sniple specials. Probably 2nd easiest build to try and climb havoc.

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ripe obsidian
#

Huh, you do use ER

#

I moved ER to PotS and EE to Quietude

#

I might try ER+EE again and see how it feels.

#

My logic was that I can control my peril enough that headsploding isn't a risk, and without EE I want more toughness generation to make up for the loss of invulnerability. And EE's uptime was maybe 20% anyway.

#

But as mentioned, I am unsure if not having ER is negatively affecting my damage output with how much I have to quell.

plucky flax
#

Too much quelling for sure.

ripe obsidian
#

It is a lot.

#

I dunno

#

First is without ER, second is with

#

It's not that different

icy breach
# ripe obsidian Ehhhhhhhh

The problem with blazing spirit on trauma is that… it stacks only to 6 stacks and thats quite dogshit if you consider shrieks creeping flames

ripe obsidian
#

My damage is usually split evenly between ranged and soulblaze

icy breach
#

Might aswell run rending with flurry with shriek for flames & you get better results

ripe obsidian
#

In a 1.5m damage game, a good 600-700k is soulblaze

ripe obsidian
#

I only play Havoc

icy breach
ripe obsidian
#

Brittleness does fuck-all for soulblaze

icy breach
#

With rending flurry; as in overall dmg - i’m trying to get perfect footage for the build but very unlucky

ripe obsidian
#

It has 100% or higher ADMs on every enemy except Crushers

#

Oh, my damage varies a lot overall. 1.5m was just a random number

#

I can't give you a screenshot of the last game b/c agent and I both crashed

icy breach
ripe obsidian
#

Rending is a fine build. More ranged damage for sure with flurry

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I use both

#

Usually when I go rending, I pair it with bubble

icy breach
icy breach
ripe obsidian
icy breach
#

Also; what keystone?

ripe obsidian
#

Warp Siphon

#

Blazing Trauma also means reliable WS stacks

icy breach
ripe obsidian
#

I am mildly curious to try SG Trauma

#

Unlimited blasting

icy breach
#

Cause actual crit chance

#

Which you want for blazing

ripe obsidian
#

I usually sit in the mid-high 40s for crit chance with trauma

ripe obsidian
#

@icy breach an example of a game

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and another

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etc, etc

icy breach
ripe obsidian
#

Not really

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I only do it consistently on purple + rot when using Inferno

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Because it's that or nothing dies

#

I abuse uncanny maybe once every few games. Not often

icy breach
icy breach
ripe obsidian
#

Nah, I don't abuse uncanny at all on Trauma

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Unless you count stabbing things in the head while other things are on fire as abuse

#

It's Inferno where I am more likely to abuse push attacks, mostly because on Trauma I can just knock them over with RMB

#

My point is mostly that I do a lot of fire damage on Blazing Trauma + Shriek

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Though not using ER potentially means more of my damage is backloaded into soulblaze instead of RMB

#

What really confuses me is every so often I see a Blazing Spirit + Rending Shockwave trauma staff, usually with bubble and without the crit aura. So 17.5% crit chance.

summer prairie
#

I remember Jsat and maybe Combine liking Nexus flurry

ripe obsidian
#

Funky

verbal thistle
#

Jsat plays way more psyker

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Makes sense

#

Leans more into the cc

hearty wolf
#

I went on DnD and full screened my girlfriend so didn't see anything else

#

After my friend single handedly wiped out like a weeks worth of progress in Nightrein

#

😭

hardy citrus
#

Not working today so I’m around all day if we do want to play

quartz barn
#

Frens and I are trying to find something new to play because depth 3+ is just bad

viscid matrix
#

Do yall use warp flurry on purgatus staff? Or penetrating flame?

idle plover
#

Blaze away and penetrating flame are my picks at least

#

Never found requirement for warp flurry

jovial juniper
#

No real reason to use pen flames

hearty wolf
viscid matrix
#

Is 16 stacks of brittle not worth? I would think it would be useful, since it’s a debuff so everyone can take advantage

I always use warp nexus for that crit and double burn application

But I’m not sure what other option to choose
Blaze away looks good for the power increase(does it apply to the flames applied while it’s active, on does the flames lose that buff if you let it run out?)
Penetrating flames looks useful to increase everyone’s damage against armoured enemies , don’t know how long the debuff lasts

And I think the 20% chance to explode elite/specials is bad

hearty wolf
#

I'm thinking of taking a half day maybe but idk to nap or what

#

Kinda just grinding work at the moment

jovial juniper
#

Truly not a lot of options for blessings

#

This does say a lot about the scene of blessings in the game

hearty wolf
hardy citrus
hollow summit
#

hmmm

#

what las pistol blessings...

#

i guess i take desperado dumdum

hearty wolf
#

It's happened before 😭

#

It also means I gotta work even later

hardy citrus
sage pulsar
#

Gotta tank it like a bit of corruption damage

hearty wolf
#

I could theoretically play a single game of darktide but

#

Ehhh

#

Today I'm due to finish at 5

hardy citrus
quartz barn
#

But unless youre actively working on something around 2 pm its not gonna be a fun time

hearty wolf
#

I'm always actively working on something

#

It's never dull

#

Which is interesting because my last job, I had literally nothing to do and was bored to death

modest perch
#

u should try being unemployed

#

much more fun

quartz barn
#

Good because its ass when youre already tired and then have to wait

deft stump
quartz barn
#

Karien normal people just say they overslept instead of "woke up 300 ms later" loregryn

deft stump
hearty wolf
#

Uhh

#

A year and a half I think

#

Definitely preferred it but jesus the days would blur by

deft stump
quartz barn
#

The good ol' days Sitgryn

#

I miss playing gamecube shrek 2 with the bois when we had like 3h of nothing between classes

sage pulsar
#

I remember i used to play gta online during like, a 2 hour gap between classes lol

hardy citrus
#

gives me something to do

alpine nova
#

crazy

#

longest i spent unemployed is 3 months

#

2 because i didn't wanna work

quartz barn
#

2 months for me

#

Only took me 2 or 3 weeks after i finished college to find a job, rest was basically vacation

alpine nova
#

too me 5 months after i finished my degree because i was so sick of people at that point/studying

#

after i got laid off my internship for took me the next 3 months for the job i work now

hardy citrus
#

job market is just shit in general atm

#

so it was hard getting a job

alpine nova
#

the job market's always shit

formal dew
alpine nova
#

true wcyd

#

hey wait a second

formal dew
#

Yeah it's me

alpine nova
#

kek

#

small world ig

formal dew
#

one ban isn't keeping me away from Warhammer lol

alpine nova
#

i didn't even know you got banned

#

what did you say

thorn cedar
#

highly recommend not repeating the shit you said that got you banned even euphemistically

alpine nova
formal dew
#

nah one of the mods is a heavy Christian

alpine nova
#

giga funny if he did

formal dew
#

I said Christ can suck my fat one and got instantly banned

#

apparently it's hate speech

alpine nova
#

janny janny they do it for free

hardy citrus
#

wait

formal dew
#

it's not a big loss lol

hardy citrus
#

@formal dew satanic temple enjoyer?

#

based?

formal dew
#

apart from Warhammer chat I don't really miss it

formal dew
hardy citrus
#

neat

formal dew
alpine nova
#

chica got banned

formal dew
#

Yeah I remember

#

Chica was kinda weird though

alpine nova
#

true

#

im probably next on the block

formal dew
#

depends on if you say something bamurai disagrees with

#

like your favorite chapter or some crap lmao

alpine nova
#

nah im cool with balls samurai

#

it's the others tho...

#

probably the same christcel that banned you

formal dew
#

Yeah it was him

#

I liked the guy

#

it's just the random "Christ is king" thing he does

thorn cedar
#

JC was a carptener so he probably knew how to work around some thick wood

formal dew
#

but anyway, I joined a bunch more Warhammer servers to get my lore

formal dew
#

I've seen some gameplay trailers for him, with the Omnissian axe and whatnot

loud girder
#

how tf do u get banned on sm2 server ICANT