psyker-class

[ripe obsidian]

Until he finally got overheaded

Smykers make me go >:(

[deft stump]

I don't care as much, just don't like wasting hp only for them to go down again 10 secs later.

When you hit 9 deaths in heresy, you really shouldn't be in it.

[knotty saddle]

finally made to psyker keystone...

now I can do damage? maybe?

[deft stump]

You always could? Assail is pretty decent even on heresy.

The real gates are getting mastery on FGS/FS/Staff of choice/guns.

Staves only shine maxxed out.

FGS feels awkward before maxxed, then an absolute monster.

[knotty saddle]

yeah but I didnt wanna play guns

theres 5 other gun classes in the game ;.;

and the staffs didnt feel very good while leveling

but now my staff feels fast and I can vent cycle really fast too

[deft stump]

Staves are 500 maxxed or bleah.

Strike is always bleah.

[wraith sphinx]

my issue with "carreer smykers" is that they also tend to be incredibly entitled. last time I played with a smyker he started shitting and pissing himself in chat after getting flanked and bonked by a crusher on account of being way out front of the team

bro went "well done you morons, now you don't have me to control the enemy horde, you are FUCKED" and we just kept playing as normal lol

fastest block in the west

[knotty saddle]

you lost your Alpha

now youre just omegas

[zealous wing]

what a fuckin dumbass of a smyker

[knotty saddle]

btw what blessings for Blaze Sword? I have electrokinetic staff, brain burst, warp siphon build

[radiant frigate]

uncanny and something probably

[knotty saddle]

woah its Kat

I havent seen u since v2 discord

[radiant frigate]

whatever will we do if the horde of suspiciously oneshottable poxwalkers comes closer without being locked in place?

[radiant frigate]

hi yeah i still exist 👋🏻

[knotty saddle]

whyd you get banned lol

[wooden sand]

Kat exists?1!1?!1?1!1?1!1?

[knotty saddle]

theoretically

[wooden sand]

Ore

[radiant frigate]

an ill-advised remark

[knotty saddle]

ahh. ive made many of those

:>

[radiant frigate]

most unfortunate

[wraith sphinx]

Probably perish to this dark... tide.

[radiant frigate]

there is precious little evidence to support this claim

[wooden sand]

Which is

[radiant frigate]

which is not enough to verify

[wooden sand]

I meant the evidence

I don't see it

[radiant frigate]

exactly

[radiant frigate]

what do we think the next class is going to be

psyker 2?

or zealot 2?

since so far we have smallgryn and vet 2

[deft stump]

You mean vetzealot.

[idle plover]

I want really full on support oriented class

[hollow summit]

Naw mate, that's just asking for more versions of book zealot and smyker

[fading shoal]

https://old.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/1qlfjv0/thoughts_on_a_pure_support_class/

https://tenor.com/view/dexter-gif-1878760417600646737

[idle plover]

Jokes on you i dont use reddit

[fading shoal]

But you and that reddit poster are hell as dumb

[idle plover]

Do not compare me to some reddit dwellers

I hold myself to some standards at least

[fading shoal]

sub-standards*

[idle plover]

How rude and baseless accusations

[wraith sphinx]

I hope fatshark actually goes against the grain and makes the next DLC class be an electro priest or something along those lines.

[idle plover]

But i really want sister novitiate and weird ass sisters weapons like stakethrower

[zealous wing]

[wraith sphinx]

And I really wish we'd get a new map every major update

[hollow summit]

Inb4 we get zotann

[idle plover]

That'd be funny

I really want to see admech crowd go bananas again after they gaslight themselves

[wraith sphinx]

I'm probably gonna stay tuned out of darktide until the next major update since I'm hooked on helldivers 2 again. New warbond is mad fun

[knotty saddle]

ive played with a psyker almost every game leveling my psyker

and we just had a double force greatsword lobby

man that was fun

its like ogryn lobbies but psyker

[idle plover]

Ive had exactly one smyker in havocs and i do not want to see another

[wraith sphinx]

oh and I officially can't stand the commodore's vestures horseshit any longer whoever is responsible for store rotations needs to have their priorities reevaluated

[fading shoal]

Woe upon you, another rotation with Witches Fingers trinket included

[wraith sphinx]

witch fingers? green laspistol skin? krieg? aw fatshark you shouldn't have

[idle plover]

Vigilant autogun skins

[fading shoal]

Vostroyan cosmetics

[idle plover]

Recoloured cosmetics coming stylishly after ive bought the og's

[radiant frigate]

absolutely fucking not

[idle plover]

Im not excluding them having combat skills

Obviously

[wraith sphinx]

we've heard player complaints that the store rotations are getting a bit stale, so we're briefly rerunning never-seen-before steel legion sets!

[idle plover]

Im not angling for killing floor medics here

But i simply like the skills which buff teammates like chorus or stimm supply

[fading shoal]

While ogryn's leopard pants were not seen in the entirety of 2024 iirc

[wraith sphinx]

I want to get a black psyker blouse but according to reddit it hasn't been in the store since late 2023 or so

[wraith sphinx]

actual fomo bruh

pmo

[wind spruce]

pic?

[wraith sphinx]

not even the IG regiment recolors are consistent like why does only veteran get that cool forest camo steel legion set

[zealous wing]

i think the worst part is we cant even try to come up with NEW things a new class would do

both new classes so far have been "can i copy your homework" of the other classes

[idle plover]

Yeah

[zealous wing]

scum has infinite corruption immunity to the whole team, zealot has beacon of purity
scum has infinite ammo, vet has the "las weapons dont consume ammo on crit"
scum has ammo sharing, vet has the aura
scum has ranged attack immunity, psyker has ranged attack immunity
scum has rampage to shove even monstrosities... TWICE! zealot has chorus, vet has shout

i would argue even that arby has more unique stuff.
damage capped at 50? nuncio for revive speed boost and enemy attack speed debuff? the dog itself

[zealous wing]

like yeah both are WAY overpowered, but arby is the most unique of the two, ironically enough

still, steps on oggys toes a lot

[idle plover]

Imo arby is fine as the tank for players who are not comfortable with ogryns sluggishness

Hive scum for most part to me was miss

I only like bonesaw and stimm supply narco playstyle

[zealous wing]

i would even argue arby is a great support for an ogryn as a less effective tank but also some DPS

ogryn full taunt, arby taking care of the clutter in a safer manner while the crowd controller/slaughterer (psyker, usually) clears the trash itself, then you have a zealot or vet taking out the incoming threats like specials or ranged elites

arby is for if you want a tank/DPS, ogryn is just a tank

[idle plover]

New classes mostly comes down to weapons that wouldn't sit with existing characters

Like the maul and shield would be out of place on vet

[wraith sphinx]

I don't buy the whole homework copying argument about the DLC classes. Both arby and scum have distinct playstyles

[wind spruce]

oh yeah i have that one

[wraith sphinx]

[wind spruce]

dont even use it

[idle plover]

And hive scums dont fit on psyker or zealot well

Like with sisters weaponry one could argue theyd fit with zealot

But like i can hardly see bag breathing zealot using stakethrower

Or sword and dagger combo

[deft stump]

I just save for automatic shotgun and mag dump.

[idle plover]

Valid

[deft stump]

Ppl rage if you don't want to play medic. I just pick class and save for autoshotty.

[zealous wing]

same people to rage if a psyker takes shriek instead of bubble on inferno

[idle plover]

it made me actually think that very few coop shooters have healer as a role

killing floor is only one i can think of

[hollow summit]

Blergh, medic in kf2 is just kill zeds but also slightly better at healing

[zealous wing]

a healer would absolutely not work in this game

[idle plover]

yeah not in this gam

[zealous wing]

the medicae is carefully spaced out, you only get 4 medipacks for a reason

its very RTS

[idle plover]

healing is limited from getgo so its more important resource

healing would break the whole gameplay flow

[deft stump]

4? 2.

[zealous wing]

i was told 4 medipacks spawn per map at most

[pulsar hazel]

usually the healer role is more loose in coop games. something like drg you could argue the scout as the healer, since they're the best at revives (gunner fits too)

[idle plover]

yeah and in most coops you got reviving

in kf you die

so having healing is paramount

[pulsar hazel]

sm2 has bulwarks and snipers as revive andys ig

[deft stump]

IDK. 2/2 unless uprising, then 2 med, 3 ammo.

[idle plover]

having reviving kinda removes requirement of active healers

[pulsar hazel]

tbh damage mitigation is in some way a healer esque role

but not quite healer

[fading shoal]

Classes having some overlap in their play styles, like Ogryn and Arbites, is seemingly intentional to keep player interest up, possibly sell cosmetics for multiple classes, and reduce development time by already having familiar systems in the game.

[deft stump]

Train is always 1/1.

[idle plover]

port vermintide 1 handed mace and sword to darktide

[zealous wing]

ye train also guarentees at least one combat stim, i know this much

[deft stump]

Overlap is normal tbh, so much you can do with hit things in melee or shoot things at range.

[deft stump]

Doing 32 trains in one night...

[zealous wing]

i cant

[idle plover]

imma keep running that reload aura on arby to piss people off

[zealous wing]

train is so boring

same withthe twin fight skip farming

[deft stump]

It was for penances.

[zealous wing]

the penances will always be there

[idle plover]

its the battery retrival section that is always most bothersome on train

[fading shoal]

The train mission's music never gets boring on the other hand

[zealous wing]

ill get it eventually through QP but im not grinding this out lmao

[deft stump]

That was the only operations then.

[zealous wing]

i have ingame music off

[idle plover]

heresy

[zealous wing]

i listen to my own music

[hollow summit]

I like doing train

[zealous wing]

thats why all of my clips have random ass music in them

[fading shoal]

This is a Jesper Kyd house, sonny

[zealous wing]

dw i have his songs in the playlists too

[hollow summit]

Train weeds out the noobs very rapidly

[fading shoal]

okay fair enough

[idle plover]

i would play music but darktide is bit intense on my pc so i dont want to keep browser open

[zealous wing]

but then i have very random music that just makes things funnier or sound more epic than they were

[hollow summit]

And I dont have to drag their ass around for 15 minutes until we all drop

[zealous wing]

like this, its actually not funny

but the timing felt perfect

[idle plover]

me popping ramstein zeig dich when last man standing

[zealous wing]

or the music just flows well

or it makes me get a bad movetech idea that somehow works

own music = more interesting moments

[idle plover]

i would be just dropping demon hunter or ramstein every match

[knotty saddle]

ok I just saw my first smyker

they spam died

[zealous wing]

welcome to the world

[knotty saddle]

despite there ALSO being 2 electrokenetic staff psykers in the game???

actual lightning spam

[zealous wing]

if theres a smyker, and you have 4 people, no you have 3 people

[knotty saddle]

also I think my psyker is really starting to take off

im mass killings things, most of which I never aimed at and are not on my screen

[zealous wing]

wildfire + kf

[knotty saddle]

its like everything in my region of the map in a certain direction just randomly dies

oh yeah I do have wildfire

what is kf?

[zealous wing]

kinetic flayer

[knotty saddle]

ah

[zealous wing]

if you have a fire build, you want kf

free damage is free damage

[deft stump]

Then you either get funny 7 mins speed games or barely clearing or failing.

[deft stump]

Also funny when you run off to loot and things are still dying in the kill feed.

[hollow summit]

Eh, if half my team drops before second bomb i just accidentally dodge off the carriage

[plucky flax]

@neon drift

[knotty saddle]

so far all of my psykers downs

are to myself

in every difficulty

too much warp...

[zealous wing]

lol sounds about right

own worst enemy

[sage pulsar]

gotta just blow up sometimes don't you? It's good for the soul

[zealous wing]

yeah sometimes you just need to let it all out

otherwise you open a portal for daemons to come through so

[sage pulsar]

yea don't think beloved would like that.. or they would, not sure

[zealous wing]

thinkin about making my fem savant fem seer

idk

the pain of liking 4 personalities but not having 4 slots available for mains

[sage pulsar]

a real pain indeed.

I'm happy I just particularly like the flavour of crazy of a seer

[zealous wing]

yeah they're gold

m loner definitely my most favourite, but seer is good too

fem loner and m savant tho both lackluster to me

[hollow summit]

Squeaky german man

With his incomparable mind

[zealous wing]

my answer, rebreathers

but you just cant beat...

[sage pulsar]

squeaky german man is fun too yea. If I ever make an M psyker I'll defo make em a loner lol.

"maybe I ate em"

xD

[hollow summit]

Brawler asked if a canticle is tasty earlier

[sage pulsar]

damn, Loner calling out everyone huh?

[zealous wing]

he doesnt discriminate

[zealous wing]

also i just am gonna leave this here for you

[sage pulsar]

lol

[zealous wing]

i also have this, which is just, everyone when they dont know what a marty zealot is

[hardy citrus]

i cant believe there's a do 50 pox gas mission penance

that's just cruel

[zealous wing]

yeah its rough

pox gas is the most forgiving, itself

medstim spam

its the fucking BOMBERS

[hardy citrus]

yeah idk

it's crazy how the modifier both covers the entire map in pox gas

and then spawns more bombers so u cant even get away from it

[deft stump]

Enclavum Baross trauma rising.

[hardy citrus]

current ptsd is consignment yard

in the little rooms after the data interrogator event

1 pox bomber covering the entire room in pox

[zealous wing]

ASCENSION RISER

[hardy citrus]

see

i dont play asc riser

if it spawns in i just leave

[zealous wing]

let me find my tierlist

[hardy citrus]

i hate that mission

it's so BORING

[hollow summit]

I've had people jab me with heal stimms

[deft stump]

Is just the farts cover everything but the riskiest paths to take.

[hollow summit]

While I was on my last wound

[zealous wing]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/tier-lists/missions/a0bcf007-cd52-467c-aa24-ca5f26906bcc

[hardy citrus]

LOL

ur so fucking real for that asc riser tier

[zealous wing]

wait

its OUT OF ORDER

WHAT THE FUCK

[hardy citrus]

I actually like dreyko a lot

it's got lots of nice rooms and stuff

[deft stump]

Lul.

[zealous wing]

it supposed to look like this

why is it this on the view part

how fucking dare

[wraith sphinx]

I still stand by mine.

[knotty saddle]

what did ascension riser do to you?

[zealous wing]

exist

[deft stump]

I like how they karked all the pics except for No Man's Land.

[zealous wing]

actually i think its NML thats karked

unless thats what you meant

its crisp instead of having the filter over it

[wraith sphinx]

oh and NML is in my S tier as well

[zealous wing]

its ok

[wraith sphinx]

all S tier missions have either trains or (moving) tanks

[zealous wing]

its fun on melee psyker

but like

its a map

a fun map

[wraith sphinx]

rolling steel and no man's land also have my favourite map specific soundtracks of the bunch

[zealous wing]

rolling steel is just, a 7 minute mission with a chance to give you a 56s intro from kayex

[hardy citrus]

i dont like rolling steel

[hollow summit]

I hate the first part of the smelter mission

Fucking ledge with a probable boss spawn right at the end

And tons of barrels

[zealous wing]

ok seriously

why the FUCK

is it not letting me put them in the right order

[sage pulsar]

machine god has spoken apparently

[zealous wing]

NONE WILL STOP ME

i managed to do it a very roundabout way

FUCK ascension riser

[hollow summit]

Oh yeah ascension riser

Boring end part

[deft stump]

The filter is dog dook!

[zealous wing]

i see you btw roy this was jsut very very important

[deft stump]

1 min unskippable loading screen is like, WTF.

Makes me hate KX tbh.

[zealous wing]

still hate him less than dukane

fuckin bitch

[sage pulsar]

yea, honestly was just trying to get the right rhytm with surge surge in the psykhanium

[zealous wing]

when scriers is down, fire like, 4-6 shots then tap quell

[deft stump]

Different kind of hate imo.

[zealous wing]

can tapquell after 2 shots if your peril is too high for your comfort for a decent dump

[zealous wing]

nah kayex is annoying to listen to, she's annoying to listen to so much so i want her dead

i do noTT careUH for surprises-UH! i uhstrive eveR for certainTY

[deft stump]

I just dislike 1 min load screen when I know I loaded in like 40 secs ago.

I literally can finish 2 10 x 10 nonograms before he finally shuts up.

On phone anyway.

[sage pulsar]

I'll try, no guarantee I won't hilariously explode a couple a times though

[zealous wing]

youre a psyker

its gonna happen no matter what you do

[hardy citrus]

who was it that blew themselves up yesterday

or was it the rando

[zealous wing]

vect

[deft stump]

That's saving vent for energencies.

[deft stump]

VECT??? What even?

[hardy citrus]

oh no i actually didn't mean that one

[hollow summit]

I usually explode on ek lel

[zealous wing]

vect exploded himself during h40 clutch because he started the bb at 97.1

[hardy citrus]

but yeah that happened to

i assume the safe point was 97?

[zealous wing]

yeah

[deft stump]

Decimal.

[zealous wing]

97.0

[hardy citrus]

lmao

[hollow summit]

Kek

[hardy citrus]

thats just unlucky

[zealous wing]

its a genuine shame

he had almost max health, was almost perfectly clear

[deft stump]

Is why I edge lower. Or save vent for accidents.

[zealous wing]

he was dealing with the final flamer 😭

[hardy citrus]

Yeah

we were a ways ahead but he couldve done it

[deft stump]

I mean, we got him to clutch on high ping before lul.

[zealous wing]

otherwise it might be me who exploded but i dont remember

i was the only other psyker

[deft stump]

He is probably still unamused by it to this day.

[zealous wing]

while i was present, ofc

[heavy dagger]

force sword or dueling sword for ek staff build

[zealous wing]

dueling sword for mobility, if surge surge, FGS if you want hordeclear for RMB

but if you know how to move, FGS is fine for either

[idle plover]

force sword with deflect also good just in case vs gunners if not running shield

[zealous wing]

you need kinetic deflection for it to be really viable

otherwise its just general defensive blessing

[idle plover]

that too

[sage pulsar]

why'd it need kinetic deflection for it to be good?

[zealous wing]

to block bullets well

otherwise you block a few bullets and your stamina goes poof

[sage pulsar]

ah I see

[deft stump]

Cos even with block effi and 16 stam, a reaper will chew through after awhile.

Wait.

5+9+2.

[hardy citrus]

16

[deft stump]

Yeah, that.

You can survive the hail for a decent time though, still more a funni meme thing.

With KD and -peril nodes...

Well, a DH combo is 2.5% peril.

4 attacks, 2.5% peril damage.

[hardy citrus]

Need to nip out for a bit

need to buy new paint

[deft stump]

For minis?

[hardy citrus]

Yeah

I’m tryna paint my death company but my white is really old and kinda watery now

The store I frequent is just a ways away

[stone canyon]

I had this idea (obviously not new or anything) as im struggling getting into havocs with randoms and its really hit&miss with the teams. One rolls over all content and i feel carried, another has members that would go down even in malice probably. So inferno bubble psyker seems to be the most consistent "anchor" for teams like that to help em survive... But what if id also replace brainburst with smite for extreme emergencies? Is there any good synergy in that idea?

[deft stump]

Ah. I see.

[mighty ibex]

Yo should i skip this battle of tertium campain?

after i did the last special mission

i mean this wolfer's ritual

[hollow summit]

You mean the 3 new maps?

Technically 2 new maps but still

[zealous wing]

well

one

theres one new map

[mighty ibex]

i played all 3 maps

so i think i can skip it

right?

[deft stump]

Have to do all 3 6x.

[hollow summit]

I just quickplay so idk

[hardy citrus]

I don’t care for campaigns really

They’re basically all low intensity which is giga shit

[mighty ibex]

bruh

i skipped and i got black screen

[hardy citrus]

Imo you lose a lot of generalist power and your only long range attack, plus I wouldn’t run smite simply out of principle

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1272804331497979935/1450700850132418651/Kill_All_Smykers.gif

[stone canyon]

Well i have no such principles so... asking if its viable still 😅

[hardy citrus]

Anything is viable if you’re good enough

[stone canyon]

Sure, cant take out that 50m+ away sniper, but i have bubble for that

[hardy citrus]

Imo smite makes shit harder half the time

Because it’s someone not doing damage

[stone canyon]

Id have it mostly just for emergencies when it looks like team is about to fold

[hardy citrus]

Ultimately most of these people

If they were going to go down

I think they’d still go down anyway

[stone canyon]

Also, does flaming em first so dots are running and smiting afterwards any good?

Or alternating the two

[hardy citrus]

It’ll keep them still whilst they burn I guess but I think you’re probably better continuing to soul flame

Soul blaze right

[stone canyon]

Last Havoc i did we failed the first one with others dropping quickly unable to deal with rotten armor, so the psyker of the team then just mostly smited the 2nd one and it was fairly easy if bit awkward to slowly take down those crusher packs, so got me thinking of doing it in more aggressive flamey style

[hardy citrus]

What rank are you playing around

[stone canyon]

I just started em, did my first auric maelstrom so got into 16 and last one i did was 22

Returned to game after 1½ year break

[hardy citrus]

I’d say that explains the swingy teams but tbh that never stops

Best way to kill rotten is via dot, since rotten dr doesn’t apply to dot

[stone canyon]

One with rotten armor was harsh, while next one after it felt too easy

[hardy citrus]

You’re probably better abusing uncanny with inferno rather than anything else

[stone canyon]

Yeah i wish i had been on my needler scum instead of vraks iag desperado

[hardy citrus]

30 with rotten is like, 35-40 without unironically

[stone canyon]

But the psyker with smite carried it so it just got me thinking of having such panic button while mostly doing actually damage and helping team with bubbles

[zealous wing]

k so

poxwalkers oneshotting in h40 i understand

but riddle me this

how the fuck does it one shot me in damnation

[hardy citrus]

They don’t even oneshot in havoc

They just do like 70 damage a swing

[zealous wing]

but in damnation

i had full hp one frame, downed the next, "downed by poxwalker with basic melee"

fatshark did something

im not the only one having weird issues like this either

they changed SOMETHING

[stone canyon]

You sure you werent hit like by plasma gunner in back first you didnt notice, then instantly followed by punch from poxwalker?

[zealous wing]

i am sure

those fuckers are loud

and, again, it was damnation, there isnt even close to the density needed to start making things silent

150 hp, 117 toughness, maybe some toughness chip because meleeker at lvl 13, but it mattered little

in all my psyker levelings i've not had issues like this

this run is so cursed

they 100% fucked with something

my guess is they tried to fix dodgelinger as well, and did the opposite

i dodge, cleanly, and, "what dodge lol" says the elite

[hardy citrus]

Was there an update today?

[zealous wing]

no but they dont need that

[hardy citrus]

I guess they could’ve tried to hotfix it

[low merlin]

The meta loadout you seek is the loadout in your hands, rejects.

[icy breach]

There are MULTIPLE WRONG THINGS in this clip; can you find them all?
https://cdn.steamusercontent.com/ugc/10945411021873530032/A656FB92C7565BD5E5330CBDB444216A19F77744/

[hardy citrus]

1. They’re playing darktide
2. They’re playing psyker

[ripe obsidian]

People keep telling me that Psyker is a free win, that the class is OP

Then I see a random play Psyker

And I outdamage then by 4x as toxin scum, or double as tanky arby

[hardy citrus]

Yep

[ripe obsidian]

Hexis and I have had similar issues with dodges

[hardy citrus]

I am on my way home soon

I have acquired a chaplain too

[plucky flax]

Pick bubble pick purga it's free win

[hardy citrus]

Yeah u pick it and auto win

Like u load into the game and the heretics just stand aside and let u walk past

[ripe obsidian]

I am afraid I don't see it

[plucky flax]

Its real

[ripe obsidian]

Play bubble inferno with randoms and report back. Or, better yet, get a random to play it

[plucky flax]

I do it plenty actually. It feels like teammates play better cos bubble keep them cosy.

But my damage suffer so I don't like it.

[ripe obsidian]

Do you? I have never seen it outside of bubble knight

I haven't played bubble in a while. Last time was when I was lagging hard with you and played rending trauma bubble

[plucky flax]

Hmm I did when I was playing on HK server.

Cos they flame

[ripe obsidian]

I feel like bubble just puts me at the mercy of my team. I have so little agency or ability to push situations

[plucky flax]

I don't play purg bubble on EU

Cos I can counter flame since I can understand them

Unless Ruski

[ripe obsidian]

Last night I had a team that was upset I didn't take bubble

So I swapped off of Psyker and let them do it

They died first and did under 100k damage

[hardy citrus]

Are you two around atm?

[ripe obsidian]

That team had one decent person and two quite bad players. Was frustrating

[ripe obsidian]

I am only partially awake. Had to get up early because of a tour of my apartment.

And then the realtor was 15 minutes late.

[hardy citrus]

Bruh

[plucky flax]

I think I am around.

[hardy citrus]

I will be around in like 10 min

I’m 2 stops out from home

[icy breach]

Not sure if serious or joking

[ripe obsidian]

We have had issues.

Both of us.

Lots of getting hit by melee mid-dodge

Or hit by specials, mostly dogs and trappers, hitting us when we're very clearly out of the way

I think @hearty wolf did also

[icy breach]

ok so you are serious
lemme enlighten you then; LAG happened the moment i charged a trauma at sniper thats why i got hit

[ripe obsidian]

Ah

[hardy citrus]

ok

[icy breach]

like srsly; watch the clip yet again; after that lag was still persisting (hence sliding enemies & players); not even the sniper shot was audible cause of lag
according to my friends POV; i got shot twice

[hardy citrus]

i am home

[icy breach]

despite 1 being visible to me through the entire clip

• another clear indicator of lag is when you dodge/move fast somewhere & you return to the place before (thats what happened to me there; despite being down the small stairs i got back to the original point where i dodged from = lag happened before i put input for dodge = the sniper was able to shoot me & hit me)

[hardy citrus]

yep ok

i am now around

@ripe obsidian u up to play now or do u want some time if ur not awake

[ripe obsidian]

Go ahead without me. I would play like I am drunk right now.

[hardy citrus]

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/hands-looking-eyeglasses-my-hands-gif-16705955

[hardy citrus]

well it'd just be me and chaos

im cool with that ig, we could wait for @hearty wolf to be around if he's gonna show up

[hearty wolf]

Playing NR atm

[hardy citrus]

it's cooked

[ripe obsidian]

I have never once seen someone call Nightreign "NR"

[ripe obsidian]

Maybe the issues we're having with dodging are also lag, just less visible

[zealous wing]

[hardy citrus]

o

@plucky flax are u alive

[plucky flax]

Yessir

[hardy citrus]

big!

[zealous wing]

i would like to get some food

but i am around

[hardy citrus]

well, probably get food first thyen

and when ur back we can clown?

[ornate hamlet]

clown

[zealous wing]

food ate

[hardy citrus]

@plucky flax awaken my minion

frfr this time

[plucky flax]

Okay i can come

[zealous wing]

anyone else?

[hardy citrus]

ill check what my assignment is

ugh

toll rotten

[sage pulsar]

tomfoolery going on?

[hardy citrus]

havocing

[zealous wing]

ye we just dived in. depending how it goes they might let you come have a peek a match

[sage pulsar]

A peek a match?

[zealous wing]

at a h40

[sage pulsar]

I'm only imagining that can go amazingly

[hardy citrus]

man

they really need to change bons

so if they eat u

u are damage immune whilst in them

from things outside of thyem

[zealous wing]

supposedly they are supposed to

same as muti grabs

however

fatshark is fatshark

[hardy citrus]

mutant grabs are fine imo

[zealous wing]

cant even put crit damage curve inside the brackets

[hardy citrus]

u can actually avoid them

[zealous wing]

you can avoid being eaten too

[hardy citrus]

bon just eats u

[zealous wing]

dont get barfed on

but you are SUPPOSED to only take damage from the thing incapacitating you like such

[deft stump]

Got bsed by a BoN. Died to pogryn free hits cos BoN grabbed.

Worst part, it took the BoN nearly 10 mins to release me

I was long dead by then.

Like, what the fuck was that bs?

Is there no release in a sane time if no other players are alive?

10 mins is just stupid.

[atomic flicker]

my guy is tiny

i fit inside a guy

[sage pulsar]

also if this does come to pass btw, don't be affraid to tag me here or something. I'm just catching up on some shows so I'm not in game yet

[zealous wing]

we're still truckin

nvm

lol

[sage pulsar]

rip

[plucky flax]

I failed us.

[hardy citrus]

u had two crazy clutches

I ate an overhead

that room is just pretty brutal with rot, getting surrounded by crushers is not conclusive with a long life

[zealous wing]

you can tag in

wyv wants a new assignment lol so lose or win is good

[hardy citrus]

I'd like to win!

[zealous wing]

well yeah xD

[hardy citrus]

i don't really care so long as it isn't fucking ROT

[sage pulsar]

well I'll try my best! No promises however. None at all xD

[icy breach]

or poorly times dodges; do you use anticipation talent? Does Six use it?

[icy breach]

what map?

[zealous wing]

warren

its too easy to get pushed around and split with rot

and since i should stick with the tank, and the tank splits off..............

i short circuit

[sage pulsar]

@zealous wing computer fucking crashed. Great start already

[icy breach]

i have warren with pox gas with tox bombers + rotten + rampaging

you have no idea how hard that one is

[hardy citrus]

so

[frail tapir]

wow I just met the example of a horrible smyker

they were smite spamming and at the end when I asked them about it they said they knew it was toxic and didn't care

I didn't think people like that existed

Well I see why everyone hates smykers now

[hardy citrus]

it's also for the simple fact they're using smite in the first place.

[frail tapir]

well I thought that everyone doing it just wasn't aware of how toxic it was, but it turns out that someone can be completely aware of it and still be a smyker

[sage pulsar]

I'm sad smyker is toxic because like... sith lightning. But alas

[hardy citrus]

it's funny to me because tabletop smite has more strength than a bolter

and about the same arpen

[white sky]

Smite in lore isn't like "haha I'm tickling the enemies in place"

It's "oh fuck that guy just got fried so bad his innards are becoming outers"

[verbal thistle]

If psykers become lore accurate what's the 1st thing to happen in mission

Explode and spawn Cspawn?

[hardy citrus]

wdym by more accurate

[white sky]

Tbh probably, given how prone some of them are to perils

[verbal thistle]

Lore

[white sky]

Like

These are all unsanctioned psykers

Savant has the most training but they're still unsanctioned

They're walking hazards for everyone else

[verbal thistle]

Babies with kitchen knives basically

[white sky]

If you want the honest answer

It's "cadian probably guns them down"

[verbal thistle]

Fair

[zealous wing]

isnt that what the exploding collars are for

to kill the psyker before they actually spawn something

[white sky]

Are they actually bomb collars?

[zealous wing]

someone said they were, im not a 40k nerd

they seemed to be

[verbal thistle]

It's suggested they are

[white sky]

I figured they were just psychic hoods tbh

[verbal thistle]

I don't think there are direct lines though

[hardy citrus]

i dont think they are

are they?

[zealous wing]

the explosion is also not tagged as warp damage

its normal damage, and procs mm

[white sky]

None of them are sanctioned because none of them are apart of the uhhh

Schola Psykanium?

Is that the name?

[hardy citrus]

scholar psykanium

yeah

[white sky]

Yeah

[hardy citrus]

I thought that was one of the background options

[white sky]

I mean

That doesn't change the personalities

[hardy citrus]

nope it doesn't

[white sky]

And the personalities are defo not sanctioned lol

[hardy citrus]

some of them aren't

Loner is generally pretty sane

[zealous wing]

"pray to your carrion lord they never get in" - loner

[hardy citrus]

wait not loner

sorry

Savant

I confuse them

[white sky]

Yeah savant has training but they're not like

Has gone through the black ships into Schola trained

[modest perch]

loner is sane hes just a dick

[white sky]

Loner is

Sane by our metrics of the outside looking in but insane by the metrics of a 40k character

[modest perch]

savant thinks hes better than everyone cus he lacks whimsy

[dusk timber]

Blessings for voidstrike?

[modest perch]

seer is that annoying guy from ur intro to film history class that wont shut up about his clove cigarettes

[dusk timber]

Also whats a good build for it

[verbal thistle]

gaze destiny

[zealous wing]

guide in the pins

[plucky flax]

On laptop I play maybe 30% worse.

Game too hard.

[zealous wing]

i agree with this part

me having major skissues

[frail tapir]

Wait so the explosion isn’t due to the warp it’s due to your bomb collar going off

That’s really funny actually

[zealous wing]

ye lol

idk its also real funny it procs MM

but sad that it isnt affected by the warp damage boosting talents

[sage pulsar]

it would be so fun

[zealous wing]

fatshark i have a havoc modifier idea

[hardy citrus]

i wonder if i should run CDR on vet

[zealous wing]

change psyker explosion to warp damage, but add a 50% chance it spawns a monstrosity

but it should be merged with some other goofy shit

something for each class

make havoc actually entertaining with the bullshit you can pull or have happen on known chance

rather than "woe, stinky sticky floor be upon ye"

[zealous wing]

for shout, probably

golden toughness protects so fuckin much

burster explosion just do nothing but clean your toughness bar

[crisp ether]

Be a chad

Play Executioner's Stance

[zealous wing]

into rot? lmfao

[hardy citrus]

i just like shout more

I like abilities that uh

do things

Exe is good, but it's just a bunch of stats

[crisp ether]

It works, believe it or not

[hardy citrus]

which is boring

it works really well because rot is elite spam

it's still just kinda borin

[white sky]

You can just Exe Stance and Swing Powersword

It's very much an option

[crisp ether]

Shout isn't the end all be all anymore with how sauced up ES is now.

[zealous wing]

but shout is still more fun

[white sky]

Lol

[zealous wing]

my vet only exists for shout and kraks

[white sky]

If you think so man

[zealous wing]

and field improv

[indigo plank]

I wouldn't wish this gameplay upon my worst enemy

[zealous wing]

if they add another class, im deleting vet ngl, after i finish the penances, so i can have a slot for the new thing if its interesting

[white sky]

I wouldn't wish being a VoC bot on mine tbf

[indigo plank]

Staff psyker is literally more fun because at least you aren't Sisyphus pushing the fucking boulder up the hill every time you have to turn the sword back on

AND THAT'S STAFF PSYKER

[white sky]

I'll be deadass

[zealous wing]

trauma + rot+ orange is really fun

[white sky]

I would rather blow my brains out that play staffker

So

Different strokes for different folks

[indigo plank]

Fair enough, yeah

Melee psyker best?

[white sky]

Agreed.

[indigo plank]

I do enjoy a good bit of zerging from time to time

[hardy citrus]

I like psword

[indigo plank]

I respect your gumption

[white sky]

I don't like it but I will use it

I burnt myself out of PS year 1

[indigo plank]

It's a good weapon, I just hate using it lol

^^

[zealous wing]

i just wish psword wasnt so annoying to use. they tried to make a middleground with falcion and they made the falcion so shit

[hardy citrus]

I don’t find it that bad

[indigo plank]

I think after multiple years now of having weapons that didn't require me to be SUPER finicky with the special (even crusher maul doesn't just mindlessly spam special anymore) I can't go back

[hardy citrus]

I like having all its power concentrated into a few swings

[indigo plank]

Yeah, that's the feeling I get from the illisi

But weirdly enough not the PS. Probably because the Illisi can still kill while it's off

[zealous wing]

special spam is the only thing that keeps illisi even kind of afloat

very sad

genuinely

sexiest sword, shittiest versatility

[indigo plank]

I still prefer it to the deimos when paired with either bowling ball staff or a gun

Deimos is just so good though :(((

[zealous wing]

with gun i use FGS

[indigo plank]

I try to give the FGS a break when I can

[zealous wing]

have you tried obscurus at all?

[indigo plank]

I get a weird duelingsworditis with it where I feel like I gotta use other stuff too rather than just crutching the sexy moonlight gs

I don't think I liked the obscurus moveset

[hardy citrus]

holy reaper pack

[crisp ether]

Carnival maps just love spawning reaper packs

It's so weird.

[indigo plank]

Oop wrong class

[ripe obsidian]

Anticipation sometimes. Depends on spare points

[icy breach]

use it all the time

[ripe obsidian]

Sounds like all the games I played Arby with you

[icy breach]

maybe just your luck? I doubt its map specific

[hardy citrus]

Yeah we didn’t win any tho

[paper harbor]

why unstable power blessing shown 5% max strenght but buff shown 4 stack feeling like 20%?

[ripe obsidian]

And I mean, getting killed by a rager while actively dodging feels wrong.

Like, still in the animation

[zealous wing]

because it lies

it IS 20% at 4 stacks

[ripe obsidian]

Because Fatshark is poorly managed

[modest perch]

vague or incorrect descriptions are just part of our tradition at this point

[zealous wing]

regeneneration

[modest perch]

n ofc the incorrectly translated penances

[zealous wing]

regenenenenenen

[modest perch]

i miss old psykinetics

[ripe obsidian]

Oof. Game too hard.

[modest perch]

nuking it was the greatest monkeys paw moment in barktide

[zealous wing]

"nuking"

[verbal thistle]

it got buffed

[zealous wing]

its still great

[ripe obsidian]

Current PA is way more consistent for the Psyker

[zealous wing]

all blitz can access it, which means no more "MUST HAVE BB OR SMITE!!!1!" from havocers

that alone is a buff

[modest perch]

yea thats the monkeys paw aspect

[zealous wing]

and the uptime on it is stil real good

and since scriers can have its cooldown shortened even while its active, is very tasty

[ripe obsidian]

PA has like a 90% or higher uptime on H40

I wish I knew the design philosophies Fatshark wanted to fulfill for each class.

[zealous wing]

i bet you they do too

[icy breach]

i would say this one is better than the previous one

[modest perch]

eh its a mixed bag i guess

[zealous wing]

whats bad about it now

in your opinion

[modest perch]

remember how the old one gave the whole team cdr ?

and it was a flat reduction rather than a rate increase ?

[ripe obsidian]

It wasn't flat

[icy breach]

it was busted; glad its gone

[ripe obsidian]

It was like 4%

Or do you mean just a decrease?

[modest perch]

oh right

[zealous wing]

i still have the old archive if you want to see the old tree

[ripe obsidian]

It was swingier, either way

Was a Win More button

[nocturne dust]

Psyker's a win more class

[hardy citrus]

not even

[ripe obsidian]

Good ones, maybe.

I've played with a lot of godawful random psykers this week

[nocturne dust]

Psyker has the hardest time getting out of a hole and soloing. Psyker excels when team members are a wall between them and enemies.

Psyker needs space and time to cast his magic when on staff. You can play melee psyker, of course, but then you're a Zealot without any of the mistake forgiveness

[hardy citrus]

uuuuh

[ripe obsidian]

This is not accurate with the current tree.

[hardy citrus]

yeah fr

[ripe obsidian]

Meleeker is absurdly tanky

[zealous wing]

i always be in the front on aurics

havent really gone melee in havocs in a while but have a few times

lack the confidence to havoc

i see a wall of elites in auric and i go nuts

[nocturne dust]

I disagree. It's really hard to beat the ability to tank anything once.

[ripe obsidian]

Oh, I just remembered a second time I died mid-dodge to a rager during a clutch attempt. Dodging definitely feels really off this weekend. Like they pushed a netcode change to the servers on Friday

[ripe obsidian]

Uh.

[zealous wing]

I SWEAR IM NOT INSANE

[hardy citrus]

simple, psyker does it multiple times

[ripe obsidian]

Psyker has 4 or 5 different DR nodes and like 6 toughness regen nodes

You can tank a fucking lot

[nocturne dust]

and then also heals back up, right?

[zealous wing]

psyker can facetank a crusher overhead without dying

[nocturne dust]

Sure, with the right build

I'm aware

[ripe obsidian]

Not even the right build. Just a halfway decent meleeker setup

[nocturne dust]

So the right build

[ripe obsidian]

???

[zealous wing]

and you shouldnt be ACTUALLY tanking anyway

on any class

[nocturne dust]

Let's be real, a halfway decent meleeker setup is a lot further along than most randoms

[ripe obsidian]

You're talking about melee psyker. Yes, melee psyker is tanky.

[zealous wing]

toughness regen on melee hit

[hardy citrus]

incredibly disengenuous argument

[zealous wing]

first talent i always take when leveling psyker

[nocturne dust]

It's not, the bar for "half way decent" is disingenuous

[zealous wing]

halfway decent is a really low bar

whats usually lacking is the skill rather than the build

actually to regen the toughness before getting hit again

which, is still easy enough just smack something

[ripe obsidian]

Melee Psyker is more forgiving than Ogryn, Scum, and Vet, easily. Only True Grit Arby and Zealot with Death Defied or whatever up are more forgiving

[nocturne dust]

Than Ogryn?

[ripe obsidian]

Yes. Ogryn doesn't have dodge linger.

[nocturne dust]

Yeah, but dodge linger isn't the only metric

And aren't we talking about tankiness, not dodging

[ripe obsidian]

Immunity to ranged attacks for 0.25 seconds after dodging is tankiness.

[zealous wing]

to be fair thats more "survivability"

[ripe obsidian]

If we're talking the ability to stand still and get hit repeatedly on H40, then you probably shouldn't be playing H40.

[nocturne dust]

Tankiness to me means how much damage you can sustain, not how much you can avoid. Everyone has dodges, and Ogryn may lack linger but he easily makes up for it with how tanky he is.

[zealous wing]

arby would win tho

[ripe obsidian]

Tankiness in Darktide is not the same as tankiness in other games

Tanking here is avoiding and mitigating damage while drawing aggro from threats

[nocturne dust]

Even accepting that, I think you overvalue the dodge linger.

[ripe obsidian]

I absolutely do not

[hardy citrus]

well the original claim was pysker is a win more class

[zealous wing]

ah so immunity to ranged attacks is not tanky?

[ripe obsidian]

Dodge linger works even when out of dodges

[hardy citrus]

and then it was they had less bulk than zealot

[nocturne dust]

It's just a bit of positioning and sliding.

[hardy citrus]

but frankly

if you're trying to facetank shit

everything is winmore

because the second u start losing u start floor cleaning

[ripe obsidian]

You can spam dodge and be immune to ranged attacks

Forever

[hardy citrus]

^

even at -9

lol

[zealous wing]

for now

speaking of tho

i cant actually get that to work reliably recently

[nocturne dust]

You can do the same with sliding or a wall

[zealous wing]

i think they DID try to patch it

[hardy citrus]

The death company marine ive been working on for the past 2 days just had his arms drop off.

[ripe obsidian]

But non-Oggy classes have a lot more leeway in that sliding.

[zealous wing]

ono D:

[hardy citrus]

nah it's actually beneficial for me

he had a boltgun

[zealous wing]

Lmao

[nocturne dust]

I've never had an issue with it on Oggy

[hardy citrus]

I'm planning on replacing all my boltguns with boltpistols

i might need to buy some more arms

but it's fine

since new deathcompany have heavy bolt pistols

I wasn't gonna replace that one since id spent so much time trying to get his arms nice

but if it's happened

fuck it, may as well LMAO

[ripe obsidian]

Bad Ogryns die a as much as bad Psykers in H40, and they usually are less useful before they die

[zealous wing]

xD

a good outlook

[zealous wing]

speaking of

roy was a fuckin badass today

[nocturne dust]

right, at which point other classes pull out grenades or abilities. Psyker's output is much more constant, but that means far less burst.

[hardy citrus]

I could just stick the arms back on regardless

[hardy citrus]

me when I press inferno into shriek and do "far less burst" than the vet who presses shout and.... knocks things over for a bit

[nocturne dust]

You're doing that constantly

[zealous wing]

never did a havoc before, we pull him to an h40, and he did surprisingly fuckin well, didnt die right out the gate, stuck with us

[nocturne dust]

i.e. your output isn't increasing

[hardy citrus]

He didn't die that much at all

[hardy citrus]

ok but outside of like

rocket

and chem i guess

most classes are running the cheap regen nade options

because that's what's best atm

their output isnt really going up either

vet has 4 kraks and they'll kill, 5-6 things at best

zealot has knives and they will just kill specials when they're around

[ripe obsidian]

Melee Psyker can do like 15k damage on a a single heavy stab

[hardy citrus]

oggy has either a SINGLE frag or rocks

[nocturne dust]

I mean, the power in shout is it gives you time to do unmitigated dps, no care for defense

[zealous wing]

i think psyker being constant is better, there is no "save this bomb for when shit gets re--oh no im downed trying to throw the grenade"

[hardy citrus]

sure but psyker is doing that constantly

so vet matches psyker ability for a few seconds

[ripe obsidian]

Did you boost someone to H40?!?!?!?1?11

[hardy citrus]

nah

[zealous wing]

we lost

[hardy citrus]

we didnt get the clear

i recon we could do it tho

he can hold his own

and that's all he needs

[nocturne dust]

It is, but the point I'm making is Psyker is a win-more class more than other classes

[hardy citrus]

frankly

[hardy citrus]

they really aren't tho

[zealous wing]

arby has an "i cant die" ability

[hardy citrus]

They have so many tools

[zealous wing]

scum has attack immunity

[hardy citrus]

fuck think about smite

ur getting pushed back

start smiting and u have suddenly brought everyone a huge amoutn of time to do whatever

[zealous wing]

zealot literally has a "i cant die yet" ability

[nocturne dust]

Right.

Defenses tend to be lose less, so... are you agreeing?

[zealous wing]

if everyone is defensive, then yeah you can win.... after an hour and a half

just take the permasmyker and be done with it

[nocturne dust]

If the situation is real bad in h40, smite ain't doing any better than trauma, and even worse it makes you incredibly vulnerable while using it. It's not a good panic button imo

[zealous wing]

the best defense is absurd offense, which psyker has'

[nocturne dust]

I agree

[zealous wing]

but youre also saying psyker NEEDS a wall of teammates to do so

[nocturne dust]

Well, no

[ripe obsidian]

I'd say Vet is the most win-more class. Ogryn is probably the worst. Oggy is basically the same regardless of game state. Veteran with a good team can go wild. Scum as well.

[zealous wing]

so why the fuck is inferno psyker the best clutch tool ive seen

[nocturne dust]

I'm saying psyker does better with a wall

[ripe obsidian]

Unless a rager kills you mid-dodge

[hardy citrus]

so does every ranged class

[zealous wing]

everyone does better with a wall

[hardy citrus]

melee psyker doesnt care about wall, they ARE the wall

[zealous wing]

or you cast bb at 97.1

poor vect

he didnt deserve that

[nocturne dust]

Melee psyker isn't psyker, #changemymind

[zealous wing]

blue magic missle bees

[nocturne dust]

-# for legal reasons, this is a joke

[nocturne dust]

Hhhhmmm? Vet has grenades (shredders specifically, though kraks can come in clutch sometimes) and shout, both of which are very good at turning a bad situation around

[ripe obsidian]

Shredders are rarely used anymore

[nocturne dust]

Oggy can turn things around with all of his abilities when they're used right

[ripe obsidian]

Haven't seen a shredder vet in months

[hardy citrus]

I was using them today!

specificially for rotten

[ripe obsidian]

Have seen one shredder vet in months

[hardy citrus]

would ever run them outside of that

[nocturne dust]

That's fair, I do think they aren't great, but they can absolutely turn a bad situation around. They just suck outside that

[raw flax]

okay so question. I got the force greatsword and like it functionally, why would I not run the regular force sword to have quicker animations ?

[nocturne dust]

damage

[raw flax]

its for an inferno build so its RARELY used if at all except to block

[hardy citrus]

u wouldnt

u run regular force sword on inferno

[nocturne dust]

oh okay, you wouldn't

[hardy citrus]

u run fgs on melee setups

[nocturne dust]

Unless you really hate muties

[ripe obsidian]

Because the greatsword has better damage and better ADMs and a better special attack.

But you don't use FGS with Inferno

[raw flax]

That big a diff? what blessings would yall run ?

[nocturne dust]

but like, bring dueling sword instead

[hardy citrus]

what

no

[ripe obsidian]

Force Swords

[hardy citrus]

do not bring dueling sword instead

💀

[ripe obsidian]

Deimos or Obscurus

[zealous wing]

uncanny and whatever else

[hardy citrus]

yeah

uncanny and unstable or deflector i think

[ripe obsidian]

Uncanny + Superiority or Uncanny + Deflector

[hardy citrus]

i dont know if you really care about others

[ripe obsidian]

Depends on the goal

[hardy citrus]

doies superiority stack on non melee kills

[nocturne dust]

Dueling Sword is unrivaled in its mutie killing speed with the right blessings/perks

[zealous wing]

and yeah do NOT use dueling sword on inferno

it blatantly shows you dont know what youre doing

[ripe obsidian]

Superiority for making Soulblaze shred crushers, Deflector for survivability

[raw flax]

not running dueling sword cause im sick of it period. What do i run on great force sword ? I have deflector and unstable power atm deflector to help with my ranged struggle

[ripe obsidian]

Obscurus and Deimos can both easily 1-2 shot H40 muties

[hardy citrus]

Don’t run fgs on inferno

[zealous wing]

that works but on inferno that will just cause pain

but for melee or such thats perfect

[nocturne dust]

Sure, but speed of 1-shots

Gotta get that mutie hate cranking

[dusk timber]

What about EK staff

[zealous wing]

the reason you want a normal force sword (grab deimos for the best safety), is because of what we call uncanny stacking, via push attack on the crushers

[dusk timber]

Do you also run normal force sword for it

[zealous wing]

depends

surge surge i use dueling sword, for mobility really, but might go with obscurus sometimes for flavour

[raw flax]

oh shit so I want regular force for inferno?

[zealous wing]

yes

mark deimos

[nocturne dust]

If you want to make use of uncanny soulblaze

[raw flax]

same logic with the vet krak build ?

[nocturne dust]

or deflector

[zealous wing]

idk exactly what you mean, like, bistol making it work better?

[raw flax]

no like you hold out the weapon with the blessings you want while a bleed or something ticks away with that buff

[zealous wing]

ah yes

exactly that

to stack uncanny on the fire, giving the fire rending

[raw flax]

so thats how folks are shredding the walls of rotten armor is doing that after ramping the stacks up ?

[zealous wing]

push attacks on force weapons are always a weakspot hit

[raw flax]

Ive been spamming fire non stop hoping lol

[zealous wing]

watch the clip and you can see how dom does it

they're auric crushers but its the ssame regardless

[raw flax]

do you have his build sheet by chance ?

[zealous wing]

its likely the one in the guide in the pins

[raw flax]

mainly for talents

[zealous wing]

inferno shriek section

without empyric resolve

[raw flax]

this thing ?

[zealous wing]

looks like it

[ripe obsidian]

I usually pair EK with FGS

[hardy citrus]

Hmm might hop back on for a bit

[ripe obsidian]

FGS gives you horde clear that EK lacks

Plus better armor damage

RMB is decent against crushers and such, but FGS poke is better and faster

[zealous wing]

i am torn between darktide, vintage story, enshrouded, and burgle