#psyker-class

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verbal thistle
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no

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it does not

ruby bloom
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crying 4 million tears

verbal thistle
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looks fine, but idk why you'd want to dump quell where dumping warp res is a buff

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you want more peril when using it

ruby bloom
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3% instead of 4%

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Plus i just dont passive quell

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I mean the perk

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at least how I see it, the extra % reduction is reducing a barely noticable change for quell imo

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The resist gives you the extra wiggle room for staying @ 80

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for duelling, should I go finesse or heavy attack dmg ?

verbal thistle
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its a minor difference, in the end it doesnt really matter. But dumping quell does nerf (even thought its so tiny) where dumping warp res buffs you since it makes you gain more peril. end of the day, do whatever the difference between 60-80% of any stat is minimal

verbal thistle
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precog vs thrust?

ruby bloom
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yeah

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already running crits build

verbal thistle
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Uncanny + riposte/precog

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any combination really

ruby bloom
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I c

verbal thistle
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but once you are able to abuse uncanny's interaction with dots, its the most useful

ruby bloom
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its so great that you can just spam the sword then do a little poke and kill anything

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I guess riposte is working well

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I have been using blaze away on the inferno staff as well w/warp nexus

verbal thistle
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nice

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those are Best in slot

ruby bloom
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I was using brittle b4 but someone said that brittle doesnt matter b/c lower tick

verbal thistle
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indeed

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really only helpful at havoc 40, and even then its not by much

ruby bloom
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insert a steamhappy

verbal thistle
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uncanny does it way better

ruby bloom
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if i understand correctly, brittleness = armor shred and rending is % amp

verbal thistle
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brittle is a debuff of armor reduction put on an enemy, rending is a player buff of the same effect

ruby bloom
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oh rending is applied to you

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w

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yeah curio CDR is absolutely so nice

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and with bubble I can take off sniper resists and have +15% toughness until I get a good curio

ripe obsidian
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In Havoc, though, I dunno what I would take instead

ruby bloom
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probably just swap it for HP or like corruption

ripe obsidian
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The reductions to toughness and HP mean those are also not very effective

ruby bloom
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I always think flat dmg reduction matter more in havoc just because you gets chipped so often

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so having like a specific type for the havoc specificis is the only real change that matters

ripe obsidian
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Chipped? If I get hit by just about anything, my toughness is just gone

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I mean, I do run 3x gunner resist

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Yeah, H40, 5% HP is 7-8 HP and 5% toughness is 3-4 toughness

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I don't think any curio stat besides gunner resist is, like, game-changing

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Everything else is preference

wind spruce
ripe obsidian
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it is minimal

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It hardly matters

summer prairie
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Quell speed differences aren't minimal

ripe obsidian
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Oh. Yeah, those are a lot bigger than I realized

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30% slower quell

verbal thistle
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ah

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man

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nevermind then, thats a big difference

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@ruby bloom

ruby bloom
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yikes

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im looking just in game

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whats the diff for resist

ripe obsidian
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for inferno

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0.5 to 1% peril on actions

ruby bloom
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yeah honestly

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I wonder whats it compared to difficulties

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because that could be a big factor too

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I know quell is nerfed

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Or at least, I feel like your quell slowly gets up to that % and applied what does it do

ripe obsidian
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Tried an H30 because no brain. I couldn't carry hard enough. Twins killed my team, then I backed up too far and got bulwark'd

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Managed to bring the melee twin down, but the ranged twin was just tossing bombs from behind a hundred bulwarks

ruby bloom
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Dude

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if you dont keep him stun locked he just covers EVERYTHING

ripe obsidian
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I could've killed him easily if not for the bulwark sandwich. I just got bullied into a corner and whittled down

marsh current
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Maybe you should of...

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Bulworked harder

ruby bloom
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is there a spreadsheet that has the per % increase for the staffs?

radiant frigate
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"should of" is not a thing, sibling

ripe obsidian
marsh current
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Froths

barren arrow
ripe obsidian
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not sure why that's the logo

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But that's the fix

dull scroll
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I think you still need to edit the base scoreboard mod

barren arrow
ripe obsidian
dull scroll
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perfection, one more mod off my list and hopefully less lag

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wait what

ripe obsidian
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I merely copied what's on the mod page

ripe obsidian
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Maybe they meant the original ovenproof mod

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and not the scoreboard itself

dull scroll
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yes lol

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you baited me Guarded

ripe obsidian
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I didn't read fully

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More fool me

tropic bobcat
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anybody got an explanation for why sometimes I never explode at 100% and other times I do? Ogryn-level explanation if possible

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also I realize sometimes and never seem contradictory, but there are periods where I just never explode

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but only.. sometimes

ripe obsidian
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Hitting 100% does not mean exploding.

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Casting at 100% does.

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Performing a peril-generating activity when at 100% is death.

tropic bobcat
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Oh my

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so it's my lack of self-control

restive slate
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So I tried this with doubleshotty and forcesword, am pleasantly surprised

It's like I've stolen Vet's role as a Sniper but easier due to lock on

ripe obsidian
restive slate
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Used to think bubble shield was the far superior choice until I saw the muties and dogs getting staggered, now I know they're both viable

raw flax
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im on an inferno build with shriek, would creeping flames or warp rupture be better for havoc 40?

ripe obsidian
ripe obsidian
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It is a trap talent

raw flax
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that bad ?

ripe obsidian
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Worse

restive slate
ripe obsidian
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The only situation it's better than Creeping Flames is against bosses if you have no other source of soulblaze

restive slate
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Warp Rupture needs to stack based on how many enemies hit or peril level

zealous wing
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it used to be straight up damage based on peril iirc

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which, imo was better

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still not great

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but better than a debuff wave

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its competing with creeping flames, and then scriers for non-soulblaze builds

ruby bloom
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I love my 12 second instant clear of elites

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And sniper picker

zealous wing
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12 second.... instant clear?

ornate hamlet
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Tzeentchian calendar

zealous wing
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ah

patent jacinth
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Go my goof shit psyker build

obsidian bane
patent jacinth
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Smite gaze

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Die

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Now

obsidian bane
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works with most weapons btw

zealous wing
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thats because the actual weapons dont matter. smykers never use them

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smykers dont care about damage they only care about keeping the game paused, and trapping teammates in the middle of armour blobs

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which is to say, they dont contribute anything helpful by smiting the entire match

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ever

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instead they're applying a debuff to any teammates around them by turning off all dodge-based damage

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every smyker i've played with and talked to has said things like "i know how to dodge" "i know how to position" "i save it for emergencies" "i wont do it the whole match" etc...

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they never follow through with any of it, because smite taught them in lower difficulties, they dont need to position correctly, and then they hit damnation/auric and panic

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or heaven forbid, havoc. walking shock mine, meet unstaggerable CC-immune crusher blob

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and, to give credit, thats not even havoc specific

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because of the way it works, killing the things that are being held with smite is also unsafe

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which means, teammate trapped in crusher blob? its a death sentence unless they're skilled enough to have great reaction time, and/or know that smite recalibrates and will unstun an unknown number of those crushers when one is killed

ornate hamlet
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Now that you mention it

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The crusher did get into an overhead while you were smiting it

zealous wing
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yes

ornate hamlet
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So it doesn't even work as the perfect pause button these people want

zealous wing
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if ninja didnt have JaD he'd also have gone down

ornate hamlet
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More fuel for my unflinching hatred

hardy coral
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i can never tell if overkill damage is a bad thing or people just keep killing the enemies that have higher hp pools because i seem to consistently do about 500k overkill damage with Heavy sword psyker. POPOcat

zealous wing
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in fact iirc ninja has all of the DR/TDR nodes

ornate hamlet
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I'd guess that overkill comes from critting poxwalkers

zealous wing
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its still not 100% accurate all the time but comparing scoreboards with a friend it seems a lot more consistent with damage tracking

hardy coral
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i guess if im doing somewhat close to 6k damage with an overhead to a poxwalker it would eventually stack up. ha

ornate hamlet
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Specially if you're running uhhh I think heavy sword gets brutal momentum

zealous wing
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only way to really know is go into psyk and test, check after each smack to see what triggers it

hardy coral
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i use perfect strike and headtaker since its a crit build with SG so it literally carves through hordes, bulwarks, crushers, etc. honestly an underrated blessing.

ornate hamlet
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Perfect strike enjoyer

hardy coral
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nothing like going through a bulwarks shield to bonk the rager that is about to hit you.

ripe obsidian
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I present this firestick I saw in party finder without further comment.

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I am going to bed.

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Wait, one further comment. That Psyker did not have Perilous Combustion.

zealous wing
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or is there another ๐Ÿ˜ญ

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(as in, had BB, but not KF)

ripe obsidian
sage pulsar
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How'd you get the fancy coloring in the perks? Mod I'm guessing?

zealous wing
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yeah

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though i dont know the name off the top of my head

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i dont use it myself

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in other, relatively unimportant news

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she is ready for the black ship

zealous wing
raw garnet
sage pulsar
zealous wing
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indeed

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you wanna come participate in my shenanigans?

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waiting on shop to rotate in 7m

sage pulsar
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Sadly I'm at an internship rn so I'm gonna be stuck a while.

Gonna be here for at least 6-7 more hours

zealous wing
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oof

sage pulsar
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Oh neat. I'm red now

zealous wing
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RED

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so it IS message based

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however its following the usual cooldown method

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ie, messages sent within a certain timeframe of each other are not counted

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likely 15 or 30 seconds, depending how agressively anti-spam they have it thonk

sage pulsar
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I wouldn't know. But i do like this color much more then the grey i had before

deft stump
deft stump
zealous wing
zealous wing
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with cookie

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@rough echo this one

deft stump
zealous wing
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roy pokes in for a moment or two every now and then

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I AM GLAD I WAITED

deft stump
zealous wing
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yeah theres no max time restraint

deft stump
sage pulsar
zealous wing
deft stump
sage pulsar
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My generalist brain loves it

deft stump
sage pulsar
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Y'all have fun.

If by some miracle you're still going when I get home in my evening I'll be down for a few rounds though

zealous wing
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kk

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i'll likely be around, its only 11am

sage pulsar
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Oh, same timezone. Yea I'll probably be around like, somewhere better 5-7pm depending on how long dinner takes and stuff

zealous wing
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sounds good

hollow summit
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im in a he-man episode

deft stump
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I hate bulwarks.

deft stump
sage pulsar
deft stump
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My body clock stupidly runs on EU time though.

sage pulsar
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Ah, well in that case wouldn't know.

But it should be around <t:1769187600:t> plus minus an hour (timezone should be updated to your computer's time)

deft stump
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Is why I asked in hours later. XD That's always a constant.

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Unless space, I guess.

sage pulsar
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Speed also fucks it up. But yea fair enough xD

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Honestly when dealing with timezones i tend to just use hammertime

deft stump
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Pocket time?

quartz barn
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1 am isnt too late

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Besides, goats like karien are always ready regardless of the time

deft stump
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Woke at 4pm.

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EU time lul.

quartz barn
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Good old raid times

deft stump
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Those are in my time btw.

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The joke is that it's literally EU hours.

quartz barn
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Id start on 3 am on a fucking wednesday

deft stump
quartz barn
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Would still start work at 8 am btw

deft stump
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Stupid bulwark won't die.

quartz barn
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Dw reflection like that seperates the good from the great

deft stump
quartz barn
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Wouldnt expect anything less from the darktide queen chadgryn

deft stump
sage pulsar
# deft stump Pocket time?

Hammertime. It's a website where you can enter a date and it just gives you a timecode back that you can paste into discord and it'll show everyone's local time

hollow summit
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there is a @time function

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<t:1769173254:F>

zealous wing
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interesting

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took them long enough to add that lol

sage pulsar
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Yea didn't know the time function existed either lol

zealous wing
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<t:1769184000:t>

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its brand new

sage pulsar
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Neat

weary idol
zealous wing
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well, then it just rolled out for us

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because this wasnt here yesterday

weary idol
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no like its been a thing for several years

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just underused

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there wasn't an @ for it

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you had to use external websites to generate a timestamp

deft stump
zealous wing
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THIS specific function

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the @ time

deft stump
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The poor souls getting UI updates 2 months early lul.

plucky flax
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@time

zealous wing
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lol

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goober

plucky flax
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I dont have this update

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Im also on mobile app atm

zealous wing
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you have to click a thing

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let me check mobile

plucky flax
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Its not there for me yet

zealous wing
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there is an update for discord awaiting me

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im not clicking it tho

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every time i let discord update everything gets ruined

hardy citrus
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u cant do it on mobile atm

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<t:1769176800:t>

zinc phoenix
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Oh man I want that

hardy citrus
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back in my day we had to go to an external website for that shit

zinc phoenix
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Yeah we still do on mobile because discord made it client side because they are bad

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That will save me time making events for sure

dull scroll
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<t:1769178970:S>

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๐Ÿค”

heavy dagger
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i never really used the EK staff, do you just mainly use the secondary attack?

zealous wing
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depends on the build

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its real strength is as a primary fire spam, aka, surge surge

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but if they fix its crit damage (put the code in the brackets instead of forgetting to put it inside the brackets) RMB might be more viable

heavy dagger
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oh ok thanks, iโ€™m using shriek and warp siphon

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i just played with a dude using that and he was shredding

zealous wing
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then that'd be close to an RMB build

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surge surge is scriers and DD

heavy dagger
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Ooh ok

zealous wing
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theres a specifically surge surge build in the pins

heavy dagger
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iโ€™ll look at it

zealous wing
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i switched mine to assail rather than BB, for horde clear assist, but otherwise i think i use the same

heavy dagger
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sounds good

hardy citrus
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with EK do you ever use the secondary

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or are you better spamming primary

heavy dagger
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never really used it, but the guy i played with mainly used the secondary

zealous wing
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you can use both, again, it depends on build

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its still a staff

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just like voidstrike is still a staff, and is still strong

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with surge surge, the RMB is usually saved as a stun tool

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with an RMB build, LMB is just, "i cant reach those, gonna shoot em"

heavy dagger
heavy dagger
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i want to try the surge build after i play one game with this

quartz barn
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Exclusively use the special chadgryn

heavy dagger
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sounds like the surge build slaps lol

zealous wing
static sonnet
shut shell
zealous wing
shut shell
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(When I get home)

heavy dagger
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oou sounds fire

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can i add you?

zealous wing
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ie, we're missing 25-30% crit dmg

shut shell
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Sure sure

heavy dagger
zealous wing
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ON THE CRIT STAFF

static sonnet
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That's TOUGH

zealous wing
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its ONE JOB ๐Ÿ˜‚

heavy dagger
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holy shit

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finally a fresh breath of air from inferno psyker ๐Ÿคฃ

zealous wing
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i became addicted to trauma

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more versatile

heavy dagger
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it really is, very strong

deft stump
zealous wing
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just spam

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well, for some things

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nothing really stops you from going closer so its easier to aim, usually

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to get things in weird places or further away just takes practice

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but blazing trauma is very forgiving, big aoe

deft stump
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300 ping and going near? No thanks.

zealous wing
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hehe

deft stump
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I panic already with that crusher.

zealous wing
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yeah taking a weapon im far more familiar with like FGS is a better choice when on 300 ping

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because i dont need to see what attack i just technically output, i already know by patterns

deft stump
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And I have been messing around with BM/HT(?) Rashad.

zealous wing
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yeah i saw you struggle with mutants with it

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i remember distinctly being told only use the rashad if i want to know what disappointment hits like

deft stump
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Just hit more and hope it actually hits.

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Naw, it works better at 3 ping.

zealous wing
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you heavied a mutie like 7 times ๐Ÿ˜ญ

deft stump
zealous wing
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they DID

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i was watching!

deft stump
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I dunno, I kill in 4 hits or less at 3 ping.

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Depends on crit or no crit.

zealous wing
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maybe easier to get weakspot hits

deft stump
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The build is 99% ranged though.

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I only got the funni stam is aspd thing.

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For melee.

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Mostly to horde clear.

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I guess hypercrit is why things die fast on crits.

radiant frigate
deft stump
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300 ping is I take if I even hit lul.

heavy dagger
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@zealous wing this is my first game with the build i sent, im going to try the surge build now that's pinned

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i kept going down bc of managing peril and then i killed myself lol

heavy dagger
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yes

zealous wing
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k im on my throwaway psyker atm, ill send the invite and switch to a main

heavy dagger
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ok bet

zealous wing
heavy dagger
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do you want me to use the surge build or the shriek build im using rn

zealous wing
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whichever you like

heavy dagger
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kk, do you think surge will do more damage

zealous wing
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it can

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it depends on skill

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most builds do

heavy dagger
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bet

zealous wing
hardy citrus
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cant believe it's only 5 atm

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feels later

zealous wing
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its nearing 6 here if that helps

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clearly your brain thinks its over here

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speaking of,

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well, no i wont ping him

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he shall arrive when he desires to

hardy citrus
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who

zealous wing
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roy

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for a wizard is never late

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nor is he early

hardy citrus
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i mean it could just be nobody seems to be around today really

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so ive been doin nothin all day pepepoint

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did one more coat on the wings of the death company im tryna fix

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dunno, might just cut my losses with that one, try stripping another and see how it goes if i hand paint

zealous wing
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i dont remember who just that i was told kek

hardy citrus
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what is that emote kekW

zealous wing
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and, i do hate the way all the caxe feel so i've never given them a full on "spam buy til correct stat and get all the blessings and try each mark and switch more blessings"

hardy citrus
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rashad feels good

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idk about the others

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i get bored of caxe pretty fast now

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i used it a lot

prime elk
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blessings are headtaker brumentum

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and then perks are unarmored cara

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it's prob not PS / FGS (with special) level, but it's right below

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though weaker on psyker prob

zealous wing
hardy citrus
zealous wing
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@sage pulsar just checking in, we're gonna start a match soon, dont wanna miss you by a few moments, but ill be going a while after still so no rush if youre not ready

hardy citrus
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when this game closes

zealous wing
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hehe

sage pulsar
hardy citrus
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well ive tried to close it and it's taking it's sweet ass time so hold on

zealous wing
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beautiful

hardy citrus
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ok 1 sec

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i need to restart my pc i think

zealous wing
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we can wait, go for it

hardy citrus
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ok starting game now

sage pulsar
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I'm in game. S'there gonna be voice chat, or a no voice chat day?

hardy citrus
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im good with whatever

zealous wing
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i think no comms

hardy citrus
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ill try scum again

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idk i havent really been enjoying scum a ton

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ill grab an iag first and see how tghat goes

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8421211255

ripe obsidian
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@hardy citrus I tried playing H30s with randoms.

hardy citrus
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idk

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average havoc layer is so bad

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this is why i have bad habits YEP

deft stump
ripe obsidian
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this is my current H40 btw

hardy citrus
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it beats the other one i guess

zealous wing
hardy citrus
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@zealous wing do u have scoreboard? how many melee kills did I have vs ranged kills

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this class is stupid as fuck

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@ripe obsidian my havoc atm is green red i think

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which should be pretty nice if u wanna do that in a bit

ripe obsidian
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Green as in blight?

hardy citrus
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yeah

ripe obsidian
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I'm fine to do that

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Can run EK + Shriek if it's not rot

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Melee into blight is hate

hardy citrus
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first try

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peak

ripe obsidian
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I am slacking off at work if you want to run H40 now.

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Or your havoc

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whichever

hardy citrus
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yeah sure

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@ripe obsidian are you online?

ripe obsidian
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logging in

hardy citrus
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kk

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@hearty wolf @plucky flax are either of you around bychance?

ripe obsidian
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I was being mildly productive by clearing all the tabs I opened in my browser. D:

hardy citrus
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lmfao

ripe obsidian
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99% of them are D&D maps

hardy citrus
ripe obsidian
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I see @dull scroll logged in

hardy citrus
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oh?

ripe obsidian
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in a game, tho

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Vect is also better than me

hardy citrus
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do we wait?

ripe obsidian
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I cannot answer this

hardy citrus
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up to you, I don't mind waiting, idk how much time u have

ripe obsidian
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I'm not in a rush

hardy citrus
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we can give it a wait then

steel flame
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hows the games goin for you two

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im still struggling to relearn obscurus XP

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server lag makes it so fucking hard to keep the combos up

hearty wolf
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Was I being summoned

zealous wing
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lag doesnt change the combos

hardy citrus
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me and six were gonna do some havocs

zealous wing
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learn the combos very well, then you'll know what you just did based on musclememory not what you see

ripe obsidian
hearty wolf
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I was going to nap or work a bit longer but hmm

zealous wing
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how many slots

hardy citrus
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me and six, we were possibly waiting for someone, possibly waiting for sin

ripe obsidian
hardy citrus
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yeah

ripe obsidian
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:(

hardy citrus
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there u go

zealous wing
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sweet

hearty wolf
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Play one without me

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I need some of the good stuff

ripe obsidian
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@hearty wolf are you ready?

ripe obsidian
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I think Sin fell back asleep

hardy citrus
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fr

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@hearty wolf

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@ripe obsidian i have tried using altf4

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idk if that works

ripe obsidian
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is too late now

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once we're in, we're in

hardy citrus
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rip

ripe obsidian
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trio time

hardy citrus
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we just sit in spawn until @hearty wolf wakes up kekW

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some of those were unlucky

ripe obsidian
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tbh I doubt he'll be back for hours

hardy citrus
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yeah

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unlucky

zealous wing
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what happened

ripe obsidian
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I clicked start instead of party finder and everyone else also clicked start

zealous wing
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lol

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goober

ripe obsidian
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And I could not get the revives when everyone went down

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well

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maybe I could have, but I was greedy and tilted

hardy citrus
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yeah

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unlucky

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idk some of those were pretty sad

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i hate tox bombers so much

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i feel like they're legit just better than scab bombers in every way

zealous wing
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i genuinely think your rot+red+sniper+vent wouldve been easier

#

i hate access deniers like fucking blight

#

and tox gas

ripe obsidian
#

Playing arby into that sucked.

#

I couldn't do anything without losing half my HP to blight

hardy citrus
#

yeah idk

ripe obsidian
#

I am gonna take a break

hardy citrus
#

just some of the most unfun modifiers all stacking up

#

yeah i dont blame u

zealous wing
#

idk what the other guy was running other than stim supply when we grabbed him

#

but he dropped the crate once or twice the whole run

ripe obsidian
#

yeah, that was strange

zealous wing
#

i was already frustrated after that

#

he was cornered in blight, panicking, and, didnt drop his crate

#

it couldve saved him

#

at least for a little bit to get out of the corner

ripe obsidian
#

I don't mind rot sometimes. Blight is just anti-fun

zealous wing
#

and, naturally, once i get even slightly frustrated, my skill falls through the floor

ripe obsidian
#

Rot is still a pain because it locks you out of a ton of builds

#

blight is, "have stimm supply or fuck you"

hardy citrus
#

Rot is aids for a lot of what i play generally

zealous wing
#

yeah

#

blight is either "must have stim supply" or "must have a very open, loopable map so youre not actually trapped anywhere"

#

ie, not sycorax

hardy citrus
#

blight can be ok with a zealot but it means u NEED some sort of blight cleanse

#

yeah

#

I mean we got pinned in that one room

#

with like 2 tox bombers

#

and the blight at that point was frankly a non issue

zealous wing
#

speak for yourself i was abandoned to the plague ogryn, tox flamers, poxbombers, and horde!

hardy citrus
#

i tried to reach someone there

zealous wing
#

i'd had a medipack, and died in the corner there

hardy citrus
#

yeah

zealous wing
#

you ran past it a couple times

hardy citrus
#

i meant in the run where we died to twins

zealous wing
#

but, fuckin gas

hardy citrus
#

yeah

#

i had planned to grab it

#

yeah

#

gas makes that shit impossible

zealous wing
#

gas, lingers forever, very large AOE, and eats through your whole toughness bar in 2 or 3 ticks

hardy citrus
#

Yeah and thereโ€™s often 2-3 and they position in ways that makes them hard to get to / straight up not visible

#

Gas also blocks vision

zealous wing
#

they NEED to make tox bombers either have:
required LOS
increased time between throws
shorter gas duration
smaller gas aoe, about the size of a normal bombers, preferably

or some mix of the 4

hardy citrus
#

Teah

#

Idk why the gas is such a big aoe and long duration

modest perch
#

also reduced health n spawn rate

zealous wing
#

i'd be fine with normal bombers not needing LOS, if tox bombers NEEDED it because normal bombers are annoying yes, but they dont cause such a massive area denial

hardy citrus
#

Itโ€™s just absurd area denial especially when thereโ€™s often small rooms and the gas covers the ENTIRE room

zealous wing
#

reminds me

modest perch
#

n the los thing is huge cus some maps like rolling steel they will just camp behind inaccessible train cars

zealous wing
#

why the fuck are rodins mines the same size, only release a small puff of gas, (yes it eats the whole toughness but whatever), but tox bombers get far more powerful bombs as fuckin underlings than the god damn lieutenant

hardy citrus
zealous wing
#

it feels more like 30

hardy citrus
#

Idk how long they last actually

#

But itโ€™s a fucking age

modest perch
#

might as well be an eternity

hardy citrus
#

Yeah

#

Oh vect is here now

zealous wing
#

ill find out how long tox gas lasts

dull scroll
zealous wing
#

six is taking break, so am i

modest perch
#

idk how ppl can use the discord desktop app. that shit is malware

hardy citrus
zealous wing
#

by using it

hardy citrus
dull scroll
hardy citrus
#

From the ping earlier

modest perch
#

do u just have terrabytes of ram ?

zealous wing
#

i have 32gb ram

hardy citrus
modest perch
#

wtf

hardy citrus
#

I run chrome at the same time too

zealous wing
#

i run the game, discord, spotify, and keep steam open

modest perch
#

i had it installed for like a day and it immediately started eating all my ram

hardy citrus
#

5 times

#

One more and Iโ€™m 34 again

dull scroll
zealous wing
#

wyv is gunning for 40 assignment

hardy citrus
#

Iโ€™ll be around again in like 10, idk when these two feel up for it

#

Yeah

ripe obsidian
#

I can be around whenever

hardy citrus
#

@zealous wing you feel up for trying again in like 10-15?

#

Idk how long you take to unwind

zealous wing
#

idk

#

i am real frustrated with myself

#

just working on the burgle atm

#

stabby stabby

zealous wing
#

fucking

#

seconds

hardy citrus
#

LOL

#

Thatโ€™s so dumb

zealous wing
hardy citrus
#

wtf

thick quail
#

psykers are wizard right

zealous wing
#

space wizard

#

yes

thick quail
#

then this belongs here

hardy citrus
#

?????

jovial juniper
#

Uh

#

Dust?
Queers?
I don't get it

thick quail
#

i dont either

#

but it has magician in there

hardy citrus
#

bros just sending shit

jovial juniper
#

LeGion of the Bi Thousand sons

#

Idk

zealous wing
#

this is the nerd chat

hardy citrus
#

anyway

#

back to the regularly scheduled program

#

wtf pox bombers are stuipid

#

@ripe obsidian @dull scroll i am around now

zealous wing
#

zealot chat is for shitposting, for future reference, vincent

hardy citrus
#

^

jovial juniper
#

Higui that's the trans flag
Tf is wrong with you

zealous wing
#

its ok

jovial juniper
#

I said queers ๐Ÿ˜ญ

zealous wing
#

i know, i saw

jovial juniper
#

Why the fuck am I still trying to solve this

zealous wing
#

because you're confused and sorry

#

or something

#

idfk

radiant frigate
ripe obsidian
#

one moment

hardy citrus
#

LMAO

dull scroll
#

๐Ÿ˜

ripe obsidian
#

do you have a non-blight H40?

dull scroll
#

I did earlier, but it just rolled into a goo map

#

I got rot goo ref

zealous wing
#

YOU get a blight and YOU get a blight and YOU get a blight

ripe obsidian
#

then stimm scum I will stay

hardy citrus
#

does it have rotten

#

FUCK MAN

#

we can try mine if we want

#

but it's rotten toll snipers

dull scroll
#

goo is fine, don't worry about it

zealous wing
#

darth did you have a question?

plucky flax
#

Toxin scummer to counter blight.

#

Counter goop with drugs. whatthefuck_heresy whatthefuck_heresy

ripe obsidian
#

Yes

#

Unlimited drugs

plucky flax
#

Hobo drug > nurgle's aids apparently.

zealous wing
#

i like the idea that its literally just soap

plucky flax
#

Scummers don't appear that hygienic to me.

ripe obsidian
#

I forget

zealous wing
#

idk

#

why waste ammunition on cleaning yourself when you can kill a heretic with it

#

they're trying to save their home, not appear in front of the heretical nobles in appealing fashion

fickle swallow
#

I'll try to ask here: what made toughness regen on curios a bad pick now, from a must-have two years ago? Just because there're more ways to gain toughness from talents now?

hardy citrus
#

whoever told you that was lying.

#

it's just as bad today as it was two years ago

#

because it hasn't changed

#

it only effects passive coherency regen.

fickle swallow
#

Hmmm weird. I remember it being on every single build two years ago when I played the game a lot

hardy citrus
#

it shouldnt have been

narrow herald
#

It's mostly at the time because Psyker was soo giga busted (before havoc), that the only thing that could realistically kill them was exploding

Or

Losing toughness faster than they are getting shot at

hearty wolf
#

I'm awake

#

I fell asleep

zealous wing
#

we guessed

hearty wolf
#

I'm only awake because I've overheated

#

But 'm ready

zealous wing
#

we lost 5 times, im still taking a break, i think six, wyv, and vect are in a match rn

hearty wolf
#

Oh dear

zealous wing
#

@ripe obsidian sin awake

#

its ok though, im making steady burgle progress

icy breach
#

I legit once in a heat of moment called Burgle a Burger

zealous wing
#

lmao

icy breach
#

We giggled at it for quite some time

#

I was in shock too

zealous wing
#

i would be so frazzled

#

but ye, burgle is being needlefelted, its almost recognisable

hardy citrus
#

crash

zealous wing
#

f

ripe obsidian
#

crashed

zealous wing
#

f

hearty wolf
#

f

ripe obsidian
#

I think the server crashed

#

Game died

zealous wing
#

vect isnt here yet

hardy citrus
#

wait

#

are u serious

#

BRUH

ripe obsidian
#

Nothing for me to rejoin

hardy citrus
#

yep same

ripe obsidian
#

D:

zealous wing
#

try to join via friend or code?

hardy citrus
#

nah

#

we've all crashjed

hearty wolf
#

Ok I will join as summoned

#

are we vee cee

hardy citrus
#

can do idm

#

need a win or im 33

hearty wolf
#

47 it is

hardy citrus
#

47?

hearty wolf
zealous wing
#

@ripe obsidian if vect doesnt join comms and people start bothering lmk and ill join muted to slotfill

hearty wolf
#

it appears that is the cas

zealous wing
#

k you can kick me out if vect changes mind

ripe obsidian
#

I am too heavy for Vect to carry

dull scroll
#

wtf is this

ripe obsidian
#

D:

summer prairie
#

It's adjusted by peril resistance

#

So especially with Empyric resolve the threshold is quite a bit higher than 97

hearty wolf
#

We win

#

I'm swapping a revive speed for gunner resist

#

2x versus 3x is a really cringe difference when rampage is down

ripe obsidian
#

I don't know why I am having such a hard time playing the game today

zealous wing
#

see, am also washed tho

ripe obsidian
#

I was super heavy in all of those matches

hearty wolf
#

Running ahead only really works if people follow in a snake formation

ripe obsidian
#

My brain is running on like half a second of lag

hearty wolf
#

:(

#

Honestly my bad, I'll get caffiene next time. I just can't half ass playing like that

#

I'm glad we didn't wipe that run though

#

Was looking real spooky there

#

I'm glad I also kited twins away from the drop down because I think that would have been gg if I dropped with you

ripe obsidian
#

Only reason it went to a solo clutch at the end is because my dog bugged out

#

And just stood still

hearty wolf
frail oar
hearty wolf
#

I did dodge this

#

Did I int?

#

Judging from the sound of where the dog is, this should have been fine

frail oar
#

Does anyone know why the telekine wall freezes the game sometimes?

#

I had like a 4 second long freeze in logistratum today

hardy citrus
#

i could see it

#

but idk otherwise

ripe obsidian
zealous wing
#

judging from the sound it was that little side area, and the angle the dog is at, but its harder to tell once the dog has landed tbh

#

if it did, then your last dodge was to your right, which would still be in the dogs path

#

still, 3 dogs mad at you at once is mean

hardy citrus
#

idk today was just really unlucky

hearty wolf
#

I could have just turned for it but I wasn't too fussed

#

It's whatever, let's shake it off

#

Let's play again tomorrow so I can actually build some consistency for playing this game

#

I'm going to make a spreadsheet for wins and losses

hardy citrus
#

huge

#

I'm 1/9? 10? something like thjat

#

so i will NOT be recording today kekW

hearty wolf
#

I can do it for all of us

#

I just need to figure out the formulas on map

#

Since I want to do the map and then the mission

#

i.e Carnival - Warren

hardy citrus
#

what about modifiers

#

and player class kekW

hearty wolf
#

ya

#

Dw

#

I am working on it

hardy citrus
#

huge

hearty wolf
#

3 modifers max ya

hardy citrus
#

yeah

ripe obsidian
hearty wolf
#

If it's blight, I'll need to consider if I can stomach playing Scum without rampage

#

I don't deny it's value is insane, it's just.. really fucking boring.

Like, might as well run pickpocket and infinite pistol at that point?

#

If only dual stubs were good

zealous wing
#

good sidearm if you want to crit max but yeah :/

#

shame because they're SO well designed sound-wise and visually

#

i love them for the stylepoints

hardy citrus
#

I really enjoyed using them yeah

#

I mean I played that game earlier with u hex

#

on ranged scum

#

and i literally just w+lmb'ed my way through the entire thing

#

like at some point shooting gets dull and i want to melee things

#

which is crazy

zealous wing
#

its not

#

i have that issue on inferno, trauma, surge surge even

#

i like melee

#

trauma is real fun, but, sometimes i wanna just, stab that guy in the face in particular

hardy citrus
#

vet is peak for making me swap between

verbal thistle
#

my friend is making a point

zealous wing
#

lol

hardy citrus
#

lmfao

zealous wing
#

as if arby didnt get... almost the same kills with 2 weapons, in half the time

jovial juniper
#

Me with ReworkSmite

#

๐Ÿ˜ญ

hardy citrus
#

but rather due to all arby players using the same tiny handful of weapons

zealous wing
#

lol

hardy citrus
#

yeah true

loud girder
#

i mean arbi was the first new class

#

EVERYONE played it

zealous wing
#

still, lol

loud girder
#

and both of these weapons are amazing

#

and fun to play

zealous wing
#

if arby had been around a full year, it'd have won first slot

hardy citrus
#

powerful weapons too

loud girder
#

tbh i dont trust these stats
in one of the stats they said evis is one of the most popular zeaalot weapons

#

i dont buy that at all

zealous wing
#

i do

loud girder
#

every zealot mf is running either knife or ds4 or some quick weapon

zealous wing
#

its a chainsword

hardy citrus
#

or relic

zealous wing
#

because most are either malice or damnation

#

in terms of population

loud girder
#

i play mostly aurics and when i played havoc it was 20-30s

zealous wing
#

you ever wanna see fun stats, steam achievements is fun

#

only 48.8% of steam users were active sometime after seditions removal

#

then this one is even more interesting

hardy citrus
#

pretty sure the 4 diff classes one is a rare achievement

#

i didnt have it for a long time

#

i had 200 levels on zealot before i had 2 classes at 30 tbh

zealous wing
hearty wolf
#

Like if first soulblaze app was from shriek etd

hardy citrus
#

I can't wait for it to be that's ONLY counting direct damage kills LMAO

zealous wing
#

lol

#

they wouldnt need to nerf it then kekw

#

i'd also love a soulblaze kill count

#

inferno, PC, blazing spirit, doesnt matter

#

then, also, give us tox

hardy citrus
#

tox prob pretty high

#

scum has a lot of good ways to apply it

zealous wing
#

its fuckin ridiculous

#

5 shots from needler gets you to max stacks

#

you get 20 shots from pickpocket

hardy citrus
#

yeah

#

i mean

#

it's like single target inferno

zealous wing
#

unless you use the aoe tox spread mark

ripe obsidian
ripe obsidian
hardy citrus
#

that was 32

#

lol

#

but yeah 32 is very squishy compared to 40

ripe obsidian
#

I also need to shift my mentality in regards to that build

#

And just let Sin sprint forward without trying to keep up

hearty wolf
#

I think it's actually safer for me if you're close but not that close

#

Because otherwise we're going to kite overheads into each other

ripe obsidian
#

Tanky Arby does best if everyone wants to be behind me, I think

#

I can hold back enemies for a pretty long time

#

As for my toxin scum build, I think I performed my role decently well of clearing armor, but not well enough of targeting specials. Same with my attempt at Vet. I cleared elites pretty well, but didn't prioritize specials properly.

eternal tusk
#

EMPEROR loves you insane genuises

zinc phoenix
#

๐Ÿ‘† shit heretics say

thick delta
#

can anyone tell my why trauma staff feels HORRIBLE to mvoe with

#

i can't slide back wards i'm just stuck

#

i'm doing something wrong, but i don't know what

ruby bloom
#

Does quell speed actually increase quell, I feel like I dont notice a different at 60 vs 80

summer prairie
#

It increases how much you quell per tick

#

To compare you have to start at the same peril level, ideally 100

#

Because how much you quell is also based on your peril when you start holding the button

#

You quell more if your starting peril is high

modest perch
#

maybe theres not a huge difference between 60-80 but i have a 32 quell speed staff (to keep that sweet 1% warp res) n the difference is noticeable

summer prairie
#

It's noticeable when you want to only quell for 1-2 ticks and still be able to safely do e.g a full charge with your staff

raw flax
#

what stuff do i run on curios for havoc 40 besides toughenss on an inferno build

ripe obsidian
#

@zealous wing another no EE, no ER Trauma game

tiny kindle
#

Is there a site for the min-maxed stat of weapons

ripe obsidian
#

If defense exists, defense. If not, mobility.

tiny kindle
#

I have a void strike force staff with 77% warp resistance and I donโ€™t remeber where but some YouTube video said this was the min max stat for it and the dump is the blast radius with 63

ripe obsidian
#

Almost always on melee

#

Voidstrike dumps blast

tiny kindle
#

I know about the dump stat thing but I wanna know about the min-max

ripe obsidian
#

80 in everything

tiny kindle
#

Like the best possible way even if itโ€™s marginal returns

ripe obsidian
#

60 in the dump stat

potent echo
#

damn they making another class for darktide?

fading shoal
#

ye

potent echo
#

psyker 2 ๐Ÿ™

ripe obsidian
summer prairie
#

Not sure anyone has bothered to go through every stat and weapon to e.g. check whether 79 and 80 are any different

raw flax
#

for what stat ?

hardy coral
#

the Honk Kong server is something else. literally rushing forward 70% of the time and watch them get clapped by various things and forcing me to somehow clutch a run with a build that doesnt do well with Carapace hordes. POPOcat

raw flax
#

rushing works if everyones on board

plucky flax
#

Hmm I found HK server have very high quality players.

#

Much more than EU.

hardy coral
plucky flax
#

1 guy abandoned team at the pre lobby.

#

Anyone wanna join?

summer prairie
#

Can they even

plucky flax
#

Nvm he seems to have joined back.

#

He left strike team

#

Now he's back in so idk

summer prairie
#

I don't think I've been able to join havoc groups mid session since they changed it

raw flax
#

Sounds like a scuff of the strat tbh more than apes

hardy coral
raw flax
#

idk i give credit where its due its a valid and pretty good strat, assuming the entire teams going for that

summer prairie
#

After certain point lower true level is better than high

plucky flax
#

Something is wrong with him

hardy coral
#

weird thing is a lot of them have Havoc 40 but get down a considerable amount which makes me think they just get carried.

raw flax
#

What ive noticed is if its low truelevel with a havoc 40 its a carry or a not so up to par player. unless its like sub 30 then its just an alt probably

hardy coral
#

ive been on Rank 35 since im just too lazy to find a group and then spend an hour doing a mission and have a 50/50 chance of getting through it since each group of players has a vastly different playstyle, im fairly good at adapting but majority of the time i just want to play the game so i just do Auric Maelstrom.

ripe obsidian
#

Psyker might be the strongest class. But that doesn't make up for bad Psykers.

ripe obsidian
heavy dagger
#

what psyker voice for fem has kill kill kill

ripe obsidian
#

Seer.

heavy dagger
#

thanks

raw flax
#

penetrating flame worth it for rotten armor ?

ripe obsidian
#

Nope

raw flax
#

just stomach it with warp and blaze i take it ?

ripe obsidian
#

Penetrating Flames is never worth using imo

raw flax
#

nexus*

ripe obsidian
#

If you really want to deal with crushers with inferno, use uncanny on your force sword

#

Otherwise, maulers and ragers take 150% ADMs from soulblaze

#

So penetrating flames would be, at most, a 4% damage boost for you

#

And since rot enemies take such reduced damage from melee and ranged, brittleness barely helps your team

#

Stacking faster and getting crits with nexus is definitely better

plucky flax
#

Bruh I should not ress.

ripe obsidian
plucky flax
#

1 game before morning jog

ripe obsidian
#

sure, 2 minutes

plucky flax
#

Boss damage pog

ripe obsidian
#

logging in now

plucky flax
#

Imo scum's dodge should phase through chaffs.

#

Like oggy. Kapp

ripe obsidian
#

I swear the initial login process has gotten much slower

#

The "processing clearance" bit

plucky flax
#

Illegal arby axe.

ripe obsidian
#

pls no hatchet me

ripe obsidian
#

I think I did okay, up until the end event. I got lag-pounced by a hound and it went from there

#

I was tied with you for special kills

plucky flax
#

Pog

ripe obsidian
#

You pulled ahead in special kills while I was down

#

But we were 1 apart for most of the game

#

I had also only taken like 30 damage until the end event. =|

knotty saddle
#

question: ive been playing and enjoying Electrokinetic staff... but isnt this similar to smite psyker?

#

which I know is generally hated

verbal thistle
#

In a sense yes I guess. But to a far far less degree

knotty saddle
verbal thistle
#

It only hits 2 targets and does way more damage and doesn't completely stagger them

knotty saddle
#

sometimes I just nail an elite or specialist and it feels nice

verbal thistle
#

Same I like it

knotty saddle
#

ive been spamming it on crowds... whats the correct way to use this staff

verbal thistle
#

Left click for unarmored right for stagger and armor

#

I prefer left to finish off targets that I know that I can hit, but if I am unsure then I use right cause it auto aims

#

Left into hordes and specials

wraith sphinx
#

I would not compare EK and smite. charged EK doesn't require you to stay still like charged smite does, and actually does d amage

knotty saddle
#

why is smyker hated

verbal thistle
knotty saddle
#

holyyyyyy

verbal thistle
#

In my own words "if I wanted to fight enemies standing still, I'd go to the testing room"

#

I want to play the game not watch enemies get zapped by the psyker that's yelling at me to kill them for him

knotty saddle
#

so its a one dimensional game solver

#

I see

verbal thistle
#

I have only met 2 smite psykers that I enjoyed playing with

#

The common thing between them is that they didn't use smite the entire game

#

(was during charges strike meme)

#

And on top of that the smite psykers that I meet are egotistical and get very toxic fast

ripe obsidian
#

I already posted that gif

verbal thistle
#

It goes again

ripe obsidian
#

Two barrels, two postings

#

Double in all things

deft stump
#

All the barrels.

ripe obsidian
#

The last smite psyker I had wouldn't fucking get out of the corner

deft stump
ripe obsidian
#

Literally three separate times I BtL'd to him, cleared a path for him to get out, and he just stayed there

deft stump
#

We gave up rescuing them at some point.