psyker-class

[deft stump]

Once you past 30, you are half in the grave.

[ripe obsidian]

All the random pains

All the gray hair

All the wrinkles

[deft stump]

I'm Asian, what wrinkles?

That's like past 70 thing.

If you live that long.

[ripe obsidian]

You will live forever

[deft stump]

Naw. I'll die forgotten.

[ripe obsidian]

Immortal

Eternal

[deft stump]

Nope.

I'm already dying slowly.

[ripe obsidian]

Indestructible

[deft stump]

Death is an inevitability.

[proper spoke]

It's eerily true. Every adult here either looks under 30 or over 70. There's nothing in between

For women, at least

[plucky flax]

Yeah from party finder

[ripe obsidian]

Not for thee

[deft stump]

I know, I'm Asian. You can't tell until they hit like 70+.

And even then, some... just barely show.

For ppl who have seen me, I look the same as when I was in my teens.

[proper spoke]

Meanwhile I'm aging terribly compared to every single person around me

[deft stump]

Is just genetics.

[restive slate]

Is Empowered Psionics Assail build viable?

[zealous wing]

depends what for

h40? not really

anything can work if youre skilled enough tho

[restive slate]

Just build-crafting out of curiosity, at least Auric

[zealous wing]

auric, more viable but still not gonna be smooth

EP is definitely the weakest keystone

but, if you practiced enough and used good weapons it'd work

FGS alone will make everything techncially viable

in auric and below

[restive slate]

FGS just too good

[zealous wing]

tbh even level 4 psyker with assail or stronger BB works in auric though so it's not really a high bar, thinking about it

[restive slate]

That's why I kinda am bored and trying different stuff... at least until the Next Week TM update comes along hehe

[deft stump]

The FOMO Slop shop?

[restive slate]

Imagine if those affected gameplay

Adds one extra Curio slot or smth

[deft stump]

Shhhh.

Wait till +stats per FOMO collected.

Gotta get them all if you want the stats.

[zealous wing]

its already p2w with hivescum and arby so i wouldnt be terribly surprised

[deft stump]

True. Is Tencent after all.

[radiant frigate]

spawn time 2000?

[cosmic sigil]

psyker is not paid tho

[radiant frigate]

psyker is paid with time and experience

[radiant frigate]

as shown by inexperienced siblings being a liability

[deft stump]

Arby is, any brain dead person is now extra tanky.

[radiant frigate]

but the elder wizards?

now that is a sight to behold

[deft stump]

You have dog for two disablers, or unlimited pocket smites.

Well, not unlimited, but you get the idea.

Scum is just, you wanna shoot forever? Now you actually can.

[wraith sphinx]

Always the Liability, as the Fatalist arbites likes to say

[deft stump]

She still totally sleeps with fem loner though.

[shut shell]

Hello fellow middle-aged gamer

https://tenor.com/view/how-do-you-do-fellow-kids-lenny-wosniak-30-rock-how-are-you-doing-fellow-students-how-are-you-doing-young-people-gif-9572372467046593249

[granite mauve]

alcohol

[hardy citrus]

didnt think so

if we had u we might've been able to win with 3 humans

[granite mauve]

you can trust my status 100% of the time

[hardy citrus]

only discord user to ever actively adjust status wtf

[marble crater]

[granite mauve]

it does it on it's own tho

i meant the little dot thing whtvr ferk

[hardy citrus]

ig

i just leave mine on dnd perma

stops all pings without me eneding to fuck with and adjust it

[granite mauve]

i don't use discord on my phone so i'm never logged in, if i'm offline/away i'm just not at my computr

[zinc phoenix]

Yes. I have a fun one with trauma, wall and oscurus I posted at one point. Very good times. It doesn’t hit the peaks of the other builds damage wise but it has answers for all the things so it’s fun to play. Being able to just wall off specials and forget about them while rinsing big mobs of soft stuff is great

High havoc it suffers because its carapace and boss spam all day but mid tier havoc its fine

Wall is very very underrated and it’s sad because it’s so good

[idle plover]

I love using wall too

But bubble kinda is for a good reason go to

[zealous wing]

its good, when it works

[zinc phoenix]

Wall always works, it is players who fail

[zealous wing]

idk who has the clip, but, insert clip of dog running three times back and forth through wall here

[static sonnet]

Wall would be cooler to me if it had a slightly shorter cool down and if the specials running through it didn't damage it. Or if I could opt to just have the two charges node and not the specials one

[zinc phoenix]

I like that it damages them, I get random kills on my “block the way we came in” walls all the time

[static sonnet]

No I meant I dont like that the wall takes damage

[zinc phoenix]

Yeah I know, I don’t mind it because it do damage

[static sonnet]

I never thought about the damage it does tho

[zealous wing]

about the same as charged strikes, if not a little more

few ticks of 40 damage or so, depending on armour type i think, and talents

and ofc, what weapon you're holding

since its a DoT, even if short, that still applies

[zinc phoenix]

I may come back to Darktide for some trauma wall gaming with left click boosting

The hardest thing is I know wall works better with DD than EP assail but.. EP assail is good memes

I wish they’d give assail soulfire on hit 😱

As a node pickup. That’d be fun. Instead of penetrating it explodes and does soulfire in an aoe

[white valley]

Nah just give us a fireball staff

[zinc phoenix]

Both is good

[white valley]

Or any staff at this point

[zinc phoenix]

I been doing more vt2 purely because fireballs

[white valley]

We're starving over here

[restive slate]

I wish the more creative blitz effects in Mortis Trials are in base game, like the multi-brainburst

[zinc phoenix]

Multi BB is both super cool and “why would I actually use this in game” 😂

[restive slate]

So many staffs they could just port over from VT2, getting tired of the same 3... no, I'm not counting voidstrike, poor guy needs a buff LOL

[gentle crag]

I been using the electro staff instead of flame, and Im having a hard time adjusting back to flame staff.

The zapping is too good.

[radiant frigate]

voidstrike slander...

i mean tbf what staff would you port?

we got flamer, we got bolt-fireball, we got conflag-coruscatoni 🤌🏻, soulstealer is brain burst

am i missing any?

[clear rivet]

why isnt psyker disabled for havoc

like what the hell

[jovial juniper]

Because Fatshark ain't that crazy

[jovial juniper]

Beam

[clear rivet]

if u wana get your havoc 40s true survivors roll a psyker and go to town

nows ur chance

[radiant frigate]

true but i suppose elements of it are preserved in our edition of the flamer

namely the boss damage

[jovial juniper]

Just lacks the burst part of beam staff

Actually
They could take the shotgun part

[zealous wing]

or arby (unkillable), or scum (immune to most attacks)

[jovial juniper]

Shotgun Staff for psyker

[clear rivet]

thats not the point why do u need unkillable when u can melt the whole screen before anything gets to u

psykers on average do minimum twice if not more the damage of any other class right now

its not even close

[zealous wing]

actually i barely kept up with the hive scum

well, just barely overtook, rather

h40 with rot, and i forgot the other modifier

besides, if its inferno youre mad about, it kills trash. its not your job to kill trash anyway if theres an inferno psyker

like, it CAN deal with armour but its not megafast at it compared to a scums rocket

and, desperado uzi scum can EASILY outdamage an inferno shriek psyker if they're good, and, even if they're both good

also, important note... host your own havocs and just, not accept psykers??

like, if you join a randoms group you have no right to complain about a psyker being on the team lmfao

[clear rivet]

just wait for the hotfix

[zealous wing]

"ThE hOtFiX"

what hotfix

[clear rivet]

the one in 2 months

or 3

[zealous wing]

mhm

is that the same one bringing arby cosmetics?

[clear rivet]

no the same one that'll make ogryn human sized

[zealous wing]

lol

[clear rivet]

minigryn

[zealous wing]

its fatshark, expecting them to nerf anything substantially is unlikely me thinks

like, small tweaks maybe, but, anything massive is very unlikely

[crude cape]

@zealous wing btw, why do you kill the tox flamers first in the demios uncanny warp fire clip?

[plucky flax]

I played earlier 2 scums 1 vet q oggy

Was ez win

Melee scum and toxin scum

[zealous wing]

not me, dom, but its just to simulate attacking other things then suddenly, crusher swarm

[crude cape]

gotcha gotcha

[zealous wing]

@plucky flax did you record this mornings h40 btw, or remember what the mods were? i know it was rot but forgot the other one and the only clip i have is my movetech one lol

[plucky flax]

I didntm it was rot orange

[zealous wing]

ty

[plucky flax]

My laptop is dying slowly

Maybe i need to clean it

[narrow herald]

Wow sounds like heaven

[zealous mango]

Doing quite numbers

[ripe obsidian]

Hooray for 20k effective HP crushers

[zealous wing]

that somehow cant be oneshot with a 100k dmg hit

[crude cape]

shotgun staff
ice staff
beam staff

are 3 'easy' archetypes we are missing

hoping we get more at some point

[zealous wing]

i did have a dream a while ago about an ice staff in darktide.

it froze enemies in place

it was horrible, because you couldnt move around them. effectively the same issue as one of smites

[crude cape]

wait why would they disable psyker? is something going on?

[zealous wing]

no lol he's raging about not killing more than the psyker

[crude cape]

lmao

[idle plover]

my dream staff would be primary fire being assail shards being shot like shotgun while charged attack you create ball of shards in the air and on release carpet area with them

[crude cape]

i was picturing charging it with rmb, makes an ice blast on the ground like trauma, but in a cone. ice shards come up.
it damages enemies, and after multiple casts CAN freeze them, but takes a build up. So its dmg, and eventually some CC. Its LMB would be a puff of ice cloud/mist, almost like the flame staff, that did damage and slowed enemies and some light stagger (maybe not as high stagger as inferno, bc it would also slow)

I think it would be pretty cool. Like a mix between inferno and trauma sort of

[zealous wing]

honestly i think they should make that voidstrikes primary attack, or somewhat similar

make it a shorter range shotgun blast type of weapon

[idle plover]

with psyker what staffs could do is pretty much limited only by imagination

[crude cape]

this would be cool, it already has long range balls. Make its LMB a shotgun blast thats better dps at close range. And you swap between shooting balls or shotgunning based on distance

[hardy citrus]

@plucky flax gotta get in early before u get stuck with shitters and crash out

[ripe obsidian]

Psyker has been like this for half a year. Why is that nitwit raging now?

[zealous wing]

lol i dunno

probably got paired with a good psyker

[ripe obsidian]

I outdamaged an Inferno psyker like 2x in a row yesterday with @hardy citrus

On fucking Forceful Arby

[hardy citrus]

it's true

yep

wait it was forceful? LOL

[ripe obsidian]

Yeah

[zealous wing]

i shared this mornings h40 scoreboard of me barely overtaking agent

[hardy citrus]

i mean

the psyker was very shit

[ripe obsidian]

I like Forceful more than EO.

[hardy citrus]

and spent half of one of the games waiting for rescue

[zealous wing]

he was raging about how if you want h40 true survivor just go psyker for easy win

so i am guessing the psyker was actually a very competent player who didnt get downed at all the whole match

[ripe obsidian]

My point is that while Psyker is very strong, you have to have some amount of skill in H40

[zealous wing]

"some" 😭

[ripe obsidian]

Or you just end up decorating the floor

[deft stump]

I mean, he could play psyker then for 'ezy' wins.

[zealous wing]

true, or do what i suggested, and host his own lobbies

[ripe obsidian]

I think that Inferno, as a weapon, does provide relatively outsized impact for the level of input it requires.

But otherwise

I also think people exaggerate a lot

[zealous wing]

see

you SAY that

[hardy citrus]

I mean yeah inferno is pretty easy to use, but it's not as free as people like to claim

[zealous wing]

and then you OUTDAMAGE THEM ON FORCEFUL ARBY

[hardy citrus]

yeah but

inferno is useless if ur dead

[zealous wing]

ah but psyker is unkillable because they kill everything on the screen! (according to the random)

[ripe obsidian]

This is part of what I mean about skill. People either don't play Psyker and rage about it or try, die, and then rage anyway.

But

The people who are good at the game

[hardy citrus]

ive still got that assignment with 1 try left

[ripe obsidian]

Can make Psyker look absolutely absurd

[hardy citrus]

I don't wanna fail it

back to 35 jail if i do

[zealous wing]

youre at 36?

[hardy citrus]

yea

[ripe obsidian]

Agent and Hexis carried me last night. Make them do it. :D

[zealous wing]

if agent and six will both be around same time i am and you, perhappppsssssssss

"carried"

i LITERALLY got out of bed at 5hrs of sleep to come assist, i have NO idea how the fuck i died as little as i did

[hardy citrus]

it's a pretty nice one too

[zealous wing]

pure reaction no thinking i guess

[ripe obsidian]

I pressed the "no touch psyker" buttons

[zealous wing]

also true

probably

[hardy citrus]

I'll be around whenever, if @plucky flax is up and six is around at all

[zealous wing]

i remember NOTHIN

all i remember is what i clipped, and it was all my braincells forming a single bad idea

[ripe obsidian]

I am slacking off at work

[zealous wing]

that worked

[hardy citrus]

ye I guessed

[plucky flax]

I can try to play but my laptop is not liking it today

[hardy citrus]

I'm sure the laptop will be nice and behave if you ask it nicely

and if that doesn't work, hit it with a brick

[plucky flax]

Tru i can restart and try

[zealous wing]

is it overheating?

also, six at work so not right now

[ripe obsidian]

I mean, I was honestly impressed at how well I was able to hold the crushers in place

[zealous wing]

tis why i play forceful arby if i play arby

[ripe obsidian]

Between 10 second CD on BtL, the shield active, and just super high impact

[zealous wing]

yea

[plucky flax]

Yeah it randomly turns itself off when gaming so I'd say so

[hardy citrus]

Get an icepack, get a towel, get an icepack, sit the laptop on the towel

if we play, i kinda wanna go zealot because it's been ages since ive played them and i can already see my ability to do so falling off a cliff

[zealous wing]

you can run whatever you like

ill naturally be on psyker regardless

probably trauma, since blight would make melee a pita

[plucky flax]

Im coming on

[zealous wing]

six at work still

[hardy citrus]

im gonna eat smth, so ill be like 10m prob

[ripe obsidian]

You were Zealot yesterday

[hardy citrus]

i recon we could do it as 3 with a random no?

[zealous wing]

if we go without six, i would also need time to put craft stuff away

[hardy citrus]

yeah, and i swapped to vet because i was doin gnothing

if agent thinks they'll be asround when six is off work, we can wait idm

im good with whatever

[plucky flax]

Red orange baross

[hardy citrus]

I have unemployed degenerate schedule anyway

[plucky flax]

If we don't play now I go back to watching WWE.

https://tenor.com/view/kairi-sane-insane-elbow-table-becky-lynch-wwe-gif-15805640

[zealous wing]

well i have to put away the burgle, and wyv needs food

im fine with waiting or playing just need to know when

[plucky flax]

Can do in 10 mins when he finish eating.

[zealous wing]

if its when six is off work it'd probably be... in what, 5 ish hours? depends on travel time and if six works an actual 9-5

k i shall somberly put away the burgle :(

[plucky flax]

That'll be bed time for me when he's back from work.

[hardy citrus]

ive eaten now

[zealous wing]

4 or 5 more min for me

[hardy citrus]

were you painting a bon?

[zealous wing]

no im needlefelting one for a friend

[hardy citrus]

spent some time on one of my death company today

they're based black, so the wings are a real bastard

but idk what i can do to get around that because if i strip them I'm then going to need to handpaint them black or something

and just avoid the wings

it's a bit of a conundrum

[zealous wing]

@plucky flax we're ready

[plucky flax]

[hardy citrus]

gotta get used to going fast again

[ripe obsidian]

That was my big issue with the teams yesterday. They just stood still. I had to tell them more than once to keep moving

[hardy citrus]

I can't really blame them

I do the same thing

Playing with 'average' havoc players

they're incredibly slow to start moving

it's why when i started playing with u lot, I struggled to keep up

just really not used to moving forward like that

[zealous wing]

it do be that way though

there's some people who teach players that a havoc game taking an hour and a half is normal

it only takes that long if youre really slow or if things go sideways a LOT

ie, clear area, wait for specials, clear timed horde, move to next room, clear, wait for specials, clear timed horde, etc

[ripe obsidian]

Dude, I had one with neither Hexis nor Wyv, an H40

Where there was a Psyker who seemed like an LMB EK user

Until things got hairy, then they turned to smite

And three separate times they got cornered in the SAME CORNER

[hardy citrus]

like a 55-75 min is what i expect

[zealous wing]

we diving in now

[hardy citrus]

something like that ish

[zealous wing]

an hour at most usually

[ripe obsidian]

I Arby'd into the corner, cleared a path, and tried to lead them out

[zealous wing]

generally 45-50m

[hardy citrus]

yeah, it really can depend

[ripe obsidian]

And they just stayed in the corner smiting

Like, please. Just move forward

[zealous wing]

leave them behind at that point

they deserve it

[ripe obsidian]

They were the only person still alive

And an elevator was just ahead

Needed their body

[ripe obsidian]

With Agent and Sin and other good players, most Havocs are 30-45 minutes

Sometimes sub-30 even without speedrunning

[half pebble]

I think savant psykers like tea

[zealous wing]

i have died twice already

[hardy citrus]

well

That scum was shit

[ripe obsidian]

D:

[hardy citrus]

i watched bro burn 2 nades on poxer hordes

for no discernable reason

[ripe obsidian]

You need a Forceful Arby to keep your brittle bones unbroken

[hardy citrus]

i might swap to arby actually

[ripe obsidian]

Was there a grenade box nearby?

[hardy citrus]

not gonna play forceful tho

not as far as im aware

[zealous wing]

no it was right at the mission start

[ornate hamlet]

Be a chad

[ripe obsidian]

I will often just lob grenades when there's a grenade box that needs picking up

[hardy citrus]

yeah

[ornate hamlet]

Play without force of will and forceful

[hardy citrus]

it was literally before the first drop in baross

[ornate hamlet]

Engage with the game again

[hardy citrus]

I run EO

[ornate hamlet]

Sigma

[ripe obsidian]

:(

[hardy citrus]

i kinda want to run the dog prios specialist node ngl

[ripe obsidian]

It's a decent node

I'm working on getting better at managing my doggo

[hardy citrus]

im not running any of the nodes tbh

[ripe obsidian]

Still does 25% of my damage even without a doggo keystone

[hardy citrus]

maybe i should've gone lone op and run shock mines

i like dogmines

[ripe obsidian]

Shock mines kinda suck now

90 second cooldown

Better to run arby grenades for a brief stagger imo

[ornate hamlet]

I didn't quite vibe with the dog because of a couple things I will make sure to tell everyone that doesn't care yet again

If I'm able to tag the enemy, I'm often able to just pull my gun out and kill it

If it's an emergency, I don't want to wait for the dog to pounce of them because I want them dead like right now, and that's what I have a ranged weapon for

Each time I played with the dog and tried to rely on it to get enemies, I was like "well, this kinda sucks, I should've done it myself"

It does have the frankly goated use of being able to interrupt mutants and get me out of dogs, so that counts for something I guess

[hardy citrus]

the dog does stuff passively too which is nice

i died to what i assume is an overhead

but im not sure

because i literally didn't see what hit me at all

[ornate hamlet]

I got down to a silent crusher one of these days

Was just vibing and suddenly died

I wonder if there's a mod or something to prioritize certain sounds

Silent bursters are still public enemy number 1

[ripe obsidian]

Is why I have swapped to True Grit. I am not aware enough to track every single enemy in melee sometimes, especially when they clip into each other

[deft stump]

A reason to never be near a spawn door.

[ripe obsidian]

Spidey Sense and Danger Zone are the best I know of

But they don't always work with doors

[ripe obsidian]

Voltaic Jaws is a 5 second stun on anything smaller than a boss.

[zealous wing]

spidey only shows sounds that actually play

[ripe obsidian]

You can juggle the dog between rotten crushers to stunlock them

[ornate hamlet]

I like hearing the sounds, I don't want UI warnings

[ornate hamlet]

I thought it was going to be just an electrified thing like the arby weapons

[ripe obsidian]

Arby shock maul special is also a stun

Doggo is really great for disrupting clumps of enemies, especially if you can use the doggo grenade just as it jumps into 20 ragers

And it's nice to point at a special and then go back to dealing with other stuff

Plus Canine Morale is a fantastic buff

Think of the dog as a method for CC and disruption more than damage, imo. It does do better damage than a bookbot Zealot, but it can pin or stun almost everything, and the pounce is an AoE stagger

[ornate hamlet]

I swear the dog explosion barely does anything to me

It feels like a light switch

I press it and my dog just flashes like a gamer keyboard

[verbal thistle]

I wipe hordes with it in havoc

And stun mixed hordes

And electric dot does decent damage to cara

[ornate hamlet]

I should look more into the dog

Maybe my mistake was wanting it to do stuff I already do

[ripe obsidian]

The dog grenade does pretty significant damage, and has fantastic CC

[opaque tulip]

ObeseMegalodon should add sisters of silence of the game just to torment us :3

[deft stump]

It just feels weak now. Needs both charges to really do things.

[hardy citrus]

it's very good damage into elites and specials

it'll add up to a LOT of damage in the big packs that oft spawn

[jovial juniper]

Yo
They'd have peak banter

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer-40k-inquisition-you're-doomed-funny-sisters-of-silence-gif-5701083041428938624

[hardy citrus]

smile.

[spice aurora]

Dog is good in rotted too with BTL

BTL, then inbetween BTL you can dog, then BTL ready again, then shock, then BTL, you get a lot of chained cc

[plucky flax]

Dog moment

[ripe obsidian]

Are ya winnin'?

[plucky flax]

I stopped. Not sure if they still going.

[ripe obsidian]

Did ya win?

[ornate hamlet]

Are they... actually, I noticed the foolishness of my question

So would they just do Naruto hand signs in the middle of a fight?

Banter subtitles that only appear if the player is in your line of sight and you're in theirs

[clear rivet]

nitwit? has your pewny brain ever thought that I might not've been around for when this absurdity happened?

calling people names like that really?

and @zealous wing

u seem like the most ignorant person in this discord if u think there's nothing wrong with what I said

and who ever said we were taking about inferno staff?

[ripe obsidian]

Because I am absolutely sick of people coming here just to complain about Psyker being OP without any goal except to whine and get people to say, "Yes, you're so smart, Psyker is so broken."

[clear rivet]

2 'elitists' wannabees trying to mouth me off when they themselves don't even know what the hell is going on

[ripe obsidian]

Yes, I have no idea what Psyker is about. You're totally right. I'm absolutely without knowledge.

[clear rivet]

why do I even bother

[zealous wing]

oh no someones ego got hurt for being identified as mad at being outperformed, whatever will we do

[ripe obsidian]

Why do you bother?

[zealous wing]

six i think we're done for

[clear rivet]

u think I wana start some kinda drama with u 2 losers?

think again

[ripe obsidian]

Lmao

[zealous wing]

you... literally did

you literally did just start it lmfao

[ripe obsidian]

I'm just muting this guy and moving on

[clear rivet]

no u turned it into drama for calling me names 'nit'wit' 'random'

fucking ignorance

[zealous wing]

i called you a random because you are random

i dont know you

[clear rivet]

u are a random to me buddy

who the hell are u

so full of urself

[ripe obsidian]

Don't waste your time, Hexis

Guy just wants attention

[zealous wing]

ye ik

attention starved people make me sad though

[clear rivet]

oh yeah yeah call me names then say im the problemk

what a clasic

fake people bore me to death

just stfu

[zealous wing]

why are you still talking

[clear rivet]

why are u still talking?

[ripe obsidian]

Anyway, did you win any games with Agent and Wyv?

[zealous wing]

yes we won

[zealous wing]

because i live here

[ripe obsidian]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1004447866250613048/1295449409160478781/chiquichico-ezgif.com-instagif.gif

[clear rivet]

yeah I can see your terminally in this discord

[zealous wing]

pretty much

agent went bubbleknight, was nice with the gunner seed we got

was red and orange

[plucky flax]

Discord drama

[zealous wing]

nah just a ragebaiter

if he continues i'll just ping the wardens and move on lol

[clear rivet]

please go ahead

but u gotta stop baiting me first

[ornate hamlet]

🗣️ 📢 penis ‼️

[jovial juniper]

🔥

[hardy citrus]

Who the fuck spells puny like that LOL

[spice aurora]

https://tenor.com/view/michael-jackson-comendo-picoca-gif-9669437860846841235

[ripe obsidian]

Oh, hold on

[weary crane]

https://youtube.com/shorts/SQJGsA2Q6gE

I'm so done with this world bro

[ripe obsidian]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1316462732999921735/elmopsyker.gif

[hardy citrus]

Oh

I forgot to ask for scoreboard

[zealous wing]

ah

[hardy citrus]

Ngl, idk how much I did, most stuff was dead before I even reached it

[zealous wing]

lemme see if it saved

[hardy citrus]

3 shooters will do that

[zealous wing]

it did not save

scoreboard does this and i hate it

[hardy citrus]

Unlucky

I did fine there I think anyway

[zealous wing]

most recent is still the h40 from this morning

[hardy citrus]

Didn’t die got one or two nice stabs off

[deft stump]

Guy does it in every chat he is in btw. So yeah.

[zealous wing]

thats why i said if he starts up again/keeps going i'll ping wardens

he just wants punching bags and gets scared when we have valid arguments back, because he has none

[ripe obsidian]

Unsurprising. Also kind of sad.

I feel some amount of pity for people who don't know how else to interact with the world.

[clear rivet]

weren't we past this?

we still going and now you're ganging uop on me is that right

[deft stump]

I mean, some don't, but they still try awkwardly.

[clear rivet]

<@&735928989146939404>

[hardy citrus]

[unreal bridge]

[clear rivet]

lets explain the situation to the kind moderators

[zealous wing]

this guy has been causing drama needlessly

[clear rivet]

because honestly I feel like u need the attention way more than me

[hardy citrus]

wasn’t the first yappening like 3 hours ago

I guess psyker chat isn’t super active so it should be fine

[deft stump]

It was, just dragged on.

[raw garnet]

[unreal bridge]

lol this guy is ruining my early morning DT lurking

[hardy citrus]

LMAO

Unlucky bro

[deft stump]

We know you like your Illisi.

[ornate hamlet]

Slander

[ripe obsidian]

Yeah. I struggled a lot more in my teens and early 20s. The shit I went through in my early to mid 20s gave me a big attitude adjustment, helped me mature.

[ornate hamlet]

I hate all force swords equally because they all lack something I wish the other had

[unreal bridge]

Dude thank GOD it’s not only me

[deft stump]

You don't get it then.

[jovial juniper]

Oh

I get it

[ornate hamlet]

I want obscurus but with illisi's special and mixed combos without animation delays like the deimos

Just merge all swords into one

[deft stump]

I get it, just sometimes slip it in way. Though that's other issues on top of it.

[ornate hamlet]

Actually fuck it, make the force sword special like the arby maul, but add heavy attacks to it

[deft stump]

It's pretty obvious if you played with it at all in elevators.

[ornate hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/sunnyfication-gif-20299408

[ripe obsidian]

Illisi's special, or its special animation?

:D

[ornate hamlet]

Anything that doesn't get my camera stuck on an enemy for a prolonged amount of time

[ripe obsidian]

We are all guilty of stroking the Illisi to edge peril.

[ornate hamlet]

jorkin they force sword warp style

[hardy citrus]

oh wait

that's actually a solid performance ngl

i started getting back into it after a while

[jovial juniper]

I'm out here stroking my illisi
I got Warp energy on my sword rn

[ripe obsidian]

Pewpew gunscum

[hardy citrus]

The scum was pretty nice

I messed up a lot of my boss backstabs actually

[plucky flax]

Ye he was gud

[hardy citrus]

@ripe obsidian since u missed out earlier, do u wanna do some havocs when ur home?

holy shit I think I have an addiction

eh, nah, it's probably fine

[ornate hamlet]

you do

the kool kids are doing maelstrom

[hardy citrus]

i do them sometimes

every day i feel myself slipping closer to running frags on vet

[ripe obsidian]

If I have time. We shall see

You're 37 now?

[hardy citrus]

36

we failed one

[ripe obsidian]

RIP

[hardy citrus]

we had a bad scum then a good one

[zealous wing]

i can finally play the game my other psykers

[hardy citrus]

i cannot understand why you would need more than one

well

I can

but like damn

[hardy citrus]

bro u got like 40 levels in a day wtf

[zealous wing]

i did NOT

not recently

[ornate hamlet]

wow you're old

wanna tell me some war stories, grandpa

[hardy citrus]

I'm going to skin you

[ornate hamlet]

yeah whatever, let's get you back in to take your pills

For some reason I'm rank 16

I'm so good that the game advances me without playing havoc

[zealous wing]

you did an auric mael

[deft stump]

That's for beating auric mael.

[ornate hamlet]

Real

[fluid forge]

I scrolled up some from the ping and honestly this looks like pointless bickering, I'm asking you all to cease

ah I didn't reply

[verbal thistle]

forced inca to go into psyker chat. He probably doesnt even have a level 30 psyker

[fluid forge]

there we go

[fluid forge]

I have one, I like deimos gameplay

[verbal thistle]

fair fair. Try the obscurus next time. with the moveset change back from crafting update (?) its so good

[fluid forge]

I'll have to do so

[raw garnet]

I will be obscuring today I think

HLL right?

With a funky delay?

[ornate hamlet]

that delay makes me hawk tuah

[deft stump]

I sometimes wonder why it's better when the funni light thrust is l3 instead of l1.

[ornate hamlet]

oh yeah, I switched my vet build to frags for a bit and uhhh

man, did it always have that swap delay?

I got ruined by arby nades

[deft stump]

Yeah, you want one motion.

[ornate hamlet]

I love arby nades

intriguing

[ripe obsidian]

Can I bicker with you instead? :D

[deft stump]

It's not just swap between melee and range speed, it also speeds up grenade pull out.

[ripe obsidian]

HLL is single target, yes

[unreal bridge]

Yall got another spot? 😄

Bro why does discord turn it into emojis

Gawd DAMN

[hardy citrus]

it wouldnt be happening for another like, 5 hours at least

[unreal bridge]

all good I’m in school right now anyway

[thorn cedar]

-freezes pox walkers around u as a trapper runs up- my beloved told me to do this

[unreal bridge]

oh shoot LMAO

I guess I never even bothered checking

[zealous wing]

my god psyker14 finally got a curio, halfway through lvl28 lol

[unreal bridge]

Psyker 14???

You made 14 psykers??

[zealous wing]

uh

yes

[unreal bridge]

what the hell lmao

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/waow-based-wow-thinking-doodle-gif-12262272166408784207

[unreal bridge]

Do you like leveling new characters?

[zealous wing]

yes

specifically psyker

[unreal bridge]

Sheesh

I despise leveling characters lmao

[zealous wing]

i have 3 mains

ive deleted 10

i mean, sent to the black ships

[fluid forge]

yeah ok hold up lemme think of something controversial to start us off:

We should make scrier's description even longer

[unreal bridge]

That’s some dedication man

I think my highest level character is ogryn 80 ish lmfao

I only have 200 hours

[zealous wing]

thats not controvertial its fuckin RIGHT

at this point, they HAVE to

for the MEMES

give me attack speed, and make movespeed built in

[fluid forge]

I want a phD dissertation in a tooltip

[zealous wing]

YES

[hardy citrus]

replace the tooltip

with a link to a twitlonger

that's 2 pages long

[zealous wing]

give me an addon that lets me turn peril into ammunition if my reserve and mag are empty

[fluid forge]

and the entire second half are all debuffs to cancel out all of the buffs granted in the first half and it's all done in really wonky and arcane ways from a coding perspective

truly we will have achieved the platonic ideal of balance

[zealous wing]

oooh better idea

[hardy citrus]

At one point it gives you +100% damage andf follows with -90% damage

[deft stump]

Ingame guide. All Gaze is is "Refer to guide on it.". Cue an entire file on all the buffs it grants which now is basically everything.

[zealous wing]

sciers is all buffs, the node BELOW it is the debuffs, and its impossible to get a keystone

[hardy citrus]

"refer to guide" with NO links to a guide

[zealous wing]

so you can have scriers, or a full tree

[ripe obsidian]

Oh, we agree on that. I want a new paragraph added every time Psyker gets changed.

[zealous wing]

its so fuckin goofy to look at

just

its so beautiful

[hardy citrus]

lol

[deft stump]

Still too short. Needs to be so big, you can't read half of it.

[modest perch]

needs to be like a receipt from cvs

[zealous wing]

when i was in america i went to a cvs and its fucking REAL

WHY

[deft stump]

Explain? Is their font stupid?

[zealous wing]

thing was like a meter long for a chocolate

[deft stump]

Or like, full description+name for every item?

[modest perch]

no theyre like a mile long for no discernible reason

[ripe obsidian]

Random example from google

[deft stump]

That banana lul.

[ripe obsidian]

Banana for scale

[deft stump]

I think is just all the vouchers.

[modest perch]

le bananoge

[zealous wing]

they also expire like a week after

[deft stump]

That's a lot of wasted receipt paper.

[zealous wing]

yuppers

looks like this part here is the ACTUAL receipt part

[weary crane]

Banana

[deft stump]

Yes, rest is useless things lul.

[zealous wing]

almost 5 bananas long

the excess is 4 bananas

i feel sorry for any newbie looking in psyker chat hoping we're sane and helpful and they just see me, measuring paper with bananas

[modest perch]

imperial measurement system be like

[zealous wing]

well

yeah

[hardy citrus]

LMAO

[modest perch]

why yes we do measure things in feet and bananas how could you tell

[zealous wing]

and washing machines

for weight

[radiant frigate]

but what could we add?
make it have different effects based on peril level?

inversely scaling crit chance and damage

more crit chance at low peril, more crit damage at high peril

that could get very wordy real fast

[fluid forge]

y'know when Doctor Frankenstein says "I hadn't given any thought beyond creation" that's kinda where I'm at

[radiant frigate]

i respect it

[buoyant maple]

We can start by reducing psyker toughness down to 50 and no talent nodes that increase it

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1075782743285301308/1448329868491100252/supra.gif

[fluid forge]

roll a dice and pick different random effects for each individual percentage of peril, last 1.5 seconds so you can chain them and stack various effects that also have unique interactions based on what stacks and in which order

now all we need is 100 unique effects and unique interactions between each...and unqiue interactions between each particular ordering

[hardy citrus]

I used smite for the first time on wednesday

ofc, I was on tabletop, not darktide

so it's ok

[radiant frigate]

maintaining a peril level in increments of 20 for X seconds grants additional benefits, lingering for Y seconds after leaving said peril level

so we can increase the headache level of the user

"am i in the 60-80 stage or 80-100 stage? fuck it, start over"

bonus points if we then make the increments as unwieldy as possible

[fluid forge]

tool tip gonna be so big it'll cause a memory leak

[radiant frigate]

make psykers roll for weird staff stats like vets with their plasma

for ideal scrying

[modest perch]

they already do tho

love me 1% warp res staff

[radiant frigate]

"no no too much quell speed, one tick gets me out of the zone.."

[radiant frigate]

trying to extradump one stat is not the same

oh but because this sounds like it would go well with ER we also have to make them mutually exclusive

[dull scroll]

this, needing to snipe exact stat is orders of magnitude harder 😒

[radiant frigate]

indeed

[zealous wing]

THEN they change it every 4 months

so you need a new stat-specific staff

[ornate hamlet]

I hate this conversation, please elaborate further

[zealous wing]

every four months, they see people using specific staves with specific stats to identify what section of scriers is being used, so they shift things around to try to make people use "new" parts of scriers

this could be swapping what one section does with another, or changing the values themselves, or both

and, of course, adding a new section

so lets say 0-25% is crit damage (to make up for loss of warp rider damage), 26-50% is crit chance, 51-75% is attack speed, and 76-100% is weakspot damage.

then the next rotation, they move their order around, make them all 20% increments, and slot in a new perk, like stun immunity

[weary idol]

where's the +cleave scrier's section for voidblast staff

[zealous wing]

possibly a later addition

have to leave room for improvement each 4 month rotation

[weary crane]

havoc 40 btw

[ripe obsidian]

Focused channeling. Huh.

That's bad.

[zealous wing]

whats the fgs got i have to know

[ruby bloom]

The lightning staff hurts me in many ways but focused channeling is hurting me more </3

[ripe obsidian]

Lightning staff is great

Zapstick

Even if the reason it's great is not the zap...

[zealous wing]

i think they mean the stats, the perks, the 490

[raw garnet]

High base crit moment

[ruby bloom]

Warp res on lighting staff kinda homeless and the focused channeling m2 combo is trying to help her out

[unreal bridge]

I mean you think the 10 points matters?

Ohh you probably mean the dump stats

[ruby bloom]

Difference is felt for quell speed

[zealous wing]

on ek being used for rmb dmg matters severely

choosing to not max even plain dmg, then not even upgrading to full

its a choice

[raw garnet]

I wouldn't even consider doing a h40 without full maxed curios, weapons, etc

So people are crazy for that

[ruby bloom]

Just dump warp res because charge rate and quell matter so much

[ripe obsidian]

Ah. I misunderstood

[unreal bridge]

16% curios?

or you mean rarity and perks

[zealous wing]

if the fgs has blazing spirit i will be even more suspicious of what six is suspicious of

[raw garnet]

Yeah like 410+ power

17% toughness 21% health

[ripe obsidian]

Nah, I get you now. I just misunderstood

[unreal bridge]

Really?

I doubt the 3% total difference does much does it?

[ripe obsidian]

It doesn't

[ruby bloom]

It’s less so that

[zealous wing]

hehehe

[ruby bloom]

And more so charge rate down + warp down + slow charge speed all work together to make peril harder to manage

[raw garnet]

I just like to feel prepared

[zealous wing]

me running 2x revive speed and a grimoire corrupt resist instead of minor hp

[unreal bridge]

corruption?

[zealous wing]

grimoire

and a normal corruption too

[unreal bridge]

Oh wow interesting

[ruby bloom]

</3 book of corrupting me

[unreal bridge]

I always use 2 rez 1 gunner

[raw garnet]

Ally revive speed trying not to be the most busted thing on curios

[ripe obsidian]

It is a poorly statted zapstick

[ruby bloom]

Going for 2 res 2 gunner 3 sniper

[buoyant maple]

It isn’t

[zealous wing]

i dont

idk if i have any dmg res

[raw garnet]

Combat ability Regen ik

[zealous wing]

id have to look

[raw garnet]

But that's obvious

[buoyant maple]

I don’t think that one is either

I don’t run it on any class

[ruby bloom]

For psyker at least

[raw garnet]

Enlighten me

[ruby bloom]

Base -25% cd

W/quickening

[zealous wing]

curios are all preference and playstyle and class dependant

[ripe obsidian]

Revive speed is fine. You're building anticipating failure. I mean, it gives you like 5 seconds of overall benefit throughout a regular game. But those 5 seconds could swing a game.

Or it could do nothing if you never revive anyone.

[ripe obsidian]

22% with curios and the CDR aura

[zealous wing]

i just use the same curio on havoc as i do on auric lol

built for normal missions, suffer h40

[buoyant maple]

CD rate diminishes every cooldown affecting attribute that isn’t CD rate

[hardy citrus]

I think gunner resist might be the best thing imo. mayhbe not for psyker with empathic

[zealous wing]

cannot be assed to switch curios every time

[buoyant maple]

And you need 2-3x of CD curio perk for it to be a reasonable amount of difference

[hardy citrus]

I think all my curios might have hp tgh gunner resit

[buoyant maple]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1211063504174583940/1462189364837744775/ugc_10744877937992215179_A0EBD0A03DF4C853161C5143F74958240390AE2A_.png?ex=6973e0f6&is=69728f76&hm=43c417ccb20c96d606a2920e027b780971c657062ae5ad81a3af006866ed822b&

[ruby bloom]

I mean what else do you really need besides like 2 targets resists and 1 ally revive can just dump the rest of the 3 into CD and 3 more for whatever

[hardy citrus]

1 ally revive is kinda pointless imo

it's not really saving u any time

[ruby bloom]

It’s 1.5 to 1.35 I mean it’s something

[zealous wing]

2 rev go brr

3 even more brr

trapper net? what net

[raw garnet]

Insta clear trappers are my fav

[ruby bloom]

Yeah I notice it mostly for net with 1

[zealous wing]

cliff saves too very handy

[raw garnet]

Also saving people tossed off of buildings

Lol

[zealous wing]

as i said tho i run the same shit i do in auric and below and take it to havoc because lazy

[ripe obsidian]

This is an argument that requires more details.

Shriek, for example, with only Psk Aura has an 18.75 second CD. With curios and PA, it has 16.5. So you aren't getting the full 3.6 seconds that curios alone would offer, but it is still a difference.

[ruby bloom]

Ngl, auric is easier only because of enemy density

Build proc go brr

[ripe obsidian]

It's less that curios make the other cooldown options less effective

[raw garnet]

More enemies to proc talents on frfr

[ripe obsidian]

It's that other cooldown options make curios less effective

Unless I misread and that's what you were already saying

[ruby bloom]

MOBAs have taught me how to min max

[zealous wing]

six if you pull me out of bed for another h40 in the morning i stg ill barrel you (but i wont cuz it was fun lol)

im going to sleep now, gl if you game after work

[hardy citrus]

mobas are not the games to learn how to minmax

because scenarios are so different each game

MMOs and ARPG's and stuff

[ruby bloom]

More so, how stats affect stats

Than, how the actual gameplay works

[ruby bloom]

Aka, figuring out turtle strat in the first 30 hours

[ruby bloom]

Pretend I have steamhappy emoji

.4s is even more noticeable

Imo

[hardy citrus]

.3

[zealous wing]

oh one more thought

[ripe obsidian]

Revive speed is good. I take it. I don't think it's broken or OP.

[ruby bloom]

Plus triple stacking is deminished anyways so like 1-2 is good

[zealous wing]

if celerity affected res

ok gn

[ruby bloom]

It’s more so a feel good item

And kinda of crutch just because you can use it between attack cycles

Especially like, trying to res during boss, w/o res you can’t vs orgram or whoever

[ripe obsidian]

I use gunner resist, CDR, and revive speed on basically every build

Well, 2x revive and 1x hp for Psyker

[hardy citrus]

i use tgh on most of my builds

probably an outdated thing to run

[ruby bloom]

I’ve got 2x sniper 1x gunner rn

[hardy citrus]

idk why you'd run 2x sniper

way worse than gunner

gunners are more common, more spawn, and harder to dodge

[ripe obsidian]

Gunners are everywhere

[hardy citrus]

yeah

snipers are incredibly telegraphed

[ruby bloom]

I jump too much rn

[ripe obsidian]

Oh, and gunner resist affects reapers

[hardy citrus]

rebind jump key

there's almost no reason to actively jump

[ruby bloom]

It is

[ripe obsidian]

With a few exceptions, like when they target an ally in front of you so you don't get the audio cue

[hardy citrus]

yeah but evne then that's pretty rare

like im not sayhing it doesn't happen

[ruby bloom]

Once I get max charge speed I’ll jump less

[hardy citrus]

but to run 2x sniper resist is entirely pointless

ive never run any sniper resist

[ruby bloom]

I just get slowed so hard without Max stats

[ripe obsidian]

Sniper res is more for Auric than havoc

[ruby bloom]

That’s mostly what I’m doing rn

I JUST got auric I somehow unlocked havoc first

[ripe obsidian]

In havoc, your HP is low enough that you can’t take 2 sniper shots regardless.

[hardy citrus]

[ruby bloom]

Having 2 snipers resist just makes it so I take toughness only

[ripe obsidian]

Poke the sniper

[ruby bloom]

I usually use mind rupture

[hardy citrus]

I poked him over the head with a big fuckoff sword

[ruby bloom]

Once I actually get good at avoiding everything I’ll probably just run 2 gunner or swap it out entirely because crit dodge is op

[hardy citrus]

I don't think ill ever not run triple gunner resist ngl

[ruby bloom]

Shot gunners become a problem really fast

[ripe obsidian]

Shotgunners are rude.

[ruby bloom]

And the flint lock guys

They actually give me critical death syndrome

[hardy citrus]

shotgunners in havoc vs shotgunners in auric are like atomic bomb vs coughing baby

[hardy citrus]

flintlock?

[buoyant maple]

Yes it is a difference, it’s just not such a huge difference that’s worth putting 3 curio perks into imo

[ripe obsidian]

For a lot of my builds it is, because I am hoping to get Shriek back before I need to quell.

Even 1 second makes a difference there

[buoyant maple]

I think it’s just ok

Ofc there’s reason to use it but calling it the best is a longshot

[ripe obsidian]

I didn't say it's the best

Best is probably just toughness

[buoyant maple]

Yea I’m just answering the guy above thinking it’s best

[weary crane]

Snipers in havoc somehow find a tiny crack 100000 m away that you can't shoot through

[ripe obsidian]

Fair. I don't use toughness smol curios, but they're more universal than anything else

[buoyant maple]

I wish they made block efficiency curio perks good

That would actually change curio build meta quite a bit

[ripe obsidian]

Potentially. Blocking currently always feels worse than dodging

[buoyant maple]

If block cost curio perk was 20% each instead of 12%, curio meta would prob be running 3x block cost instead of +stamina & revive speed

Which frees up 1 curio blessing that can be put into more toughness/health

[ornate hamlet]

Today I almost got a double revive combo

Was cool

Dropped a shredder, went invisible, revived, and the shredder fuse was long enough for me to just barely not revive the second person

Admittedly I might end up switching smokes for frags

I used to make space against shooters and whatnot, but eventually I just realized I keep charging them like a rabid dog anyway

[hardy citrus]

I might start swapping to shredders generally

I use kraks rn but like

the only thing I really krak generally are bulwarks

[deft stump]

I just got clipped by one as scum. They were targeting the zealot, didn't even get the lazer warning before half my HP went missing.

[hardy citrus]

lmao

just use desperado

and be immune

[deft stump]

I have supply.

[hardy citrus]

skill issue

pick a better ability next time

[restive slate]

Thoughts on Empowered Psionics, maxed BB and Double Shield?

Wanna try it out but not sure what weapons to pair with

[wind spruce]

why on earth does this have 5 nouns (6 if you count flat cd skip and % cd skip as two)

[fading shoal]

The build works and weapons are your preference. Although perhaps use a gun instead of a staff to save on peril for BB.

[hardy citrus]

I should try making a psyker staff setup

one that isnt infuckingferno

[ripe obsidian]

There's a flat shield meleeker build in the guide

[buoyant maple]

(they are technically different)

[ripe obsidian]

LMB EK + Shriek

Do it.

[hardy citrus]

Is that better than strike?

[ripe obsidian]

Yes

[hardy citrus]

pfffft

[ripe obsidian]

EK has a crit stat

Voidstrike doesn't

[hardy citrus]

Lmao

I will have to look into it

[ripe obsidian]

Do it. >:(

Or else

[hardy citrus]

I should really practice inferno more too

inferno is like

it's fun to flamer a horde and stuff

idk, i think it kmight just not be my sort of playstyle

I like flamer on zealot because my primary method of interacting with the game is still using melee

[ripe obsidian]

Inferno is strong. EK + Shriek + FGS is worse at hordes but better at specials. More of a jack of all trades

[wind spruce]

assuming shriek + psykinetics aura and seers presence only and always active we have ((30-3)x1.6x(1-0.1)-10))/(1+0.6) ???

% CD skip im doubting myself

[hardy citrus]

yeah

id rather have a better melee or an 'actual' ranged weapon

rather than whatever you want to call inferno

[buoyant maple]

psyk aura is +60%

[wind spruce]

yes. that is reflected in what I said.

[buoyant maple]

why /(1+1.6) then

[wind spruce]

ive clearly made a mistake but not at what value psyk aura is

ok fixed

[buoyant maple]

with 6 stack warp charge, psyk aura and seer's presence

[30x(1-0.1) - 30x(1-0.1)x(1-0.075x6)]/(1+0.6) = 9.28125

if u have 12% CD reduction from curio perk, this becomes

[30x(1-0.22) - 30x(1-0.22)x(1-0.075x6)]/(1+0.6) = 8.04375

you get <1.3s of difference

which can be a difference in percentage gain terms

but man, 3 curio perks for <1.3s of shorter CD

https://tenor.com/view/worstdealever-gif-23135064

[wind spruce]

which is why it can be misleading to look at things in absolute values

"oh man the 8% yearly interest yield on this 10k investment only netted me $66 this month? thats barely a tank of petrol. i could buy so many adult diapers rn instead."

• Trump, probably

[fickle depot]

too coherent

[wind spruce]

what do you think of hypex vs kalma V for rampage scumming

[fickle depot]

needs more dribble

[buoyant maple]

hypex

[wind spruce]

wrong choice by a long shot

its so bad

[buoyant maple]

it's ok

I only rly run rashad rampage

[ripe obsidian]

The aura/curios happen before Warp Siphon, and WS happens before PA

So yeah, I think 1.3 seconds is accurate

[hardy citrus]

the psyker cooldown shit seems intense

[ripe obsidian]

But those 1.3 seconds matter to me

When I am using Shriek to avoid quelling

[buoyant maple]

kalma V is also good, more generalist

[wind spruce]

you're vulnerable after rampage drops + rampage drops when you lack things to kill at a relevant rate + as soon as its not a situation where you can kill you've now gimped your cd hard

[buoyant maple]

yea, I can get that

[fickle depot]

random question. pushing havoc 20-30 with friends atm, kinda want to use my psyker but I hate brainpop (hated it at launch, still hate it now i've just started playing again lol)
What would you pair with assail or smite (preferably assail) to make it not a detriment to the team? 😛 (Kinda also dont want to just sit there holding an inferno staff trigger)

[wind spruce]

this breakdown helped me realise taking hypex was just me coping

more than 50% uptime is fantasy

[fading shoal]

scrier gaze + disrupt destiny

[buoyant maple]

yea CD rate itself is diminishing, so low uptime negatively affects hypex a lot

[fickle depot]

hmmkay. any particular staff? or bolt pistol or something

[ripe obsidian]

Assail works well with LMB EK + Scrier's Gaze.

There should be a couple builds like that in the pinned guide

[fickle depot]

okies will try it out on some auric. figures EK is the only staff i dont have a decent version of yet haha

hmm investigating now

[wind spruce]

and unless you're smashing a non-elite horde gl getting above 50% uptime

[abstract juniper]

What should I be running for karnak?

[fading shoal]

Bolt pistol, autogun, or laspistol if going for the right side of the psyker tree

[buoyant maple]

yea I get it

[fickle depot]

hmmkay, think i have a good bolt pistol. vigilant autogun? normal one?

[ripe obsidian]

Well, Assail is very good at clearing hordes and staggering elites. Those are the two things it does best. EK is very good at single target damage. Both benefit greatly from crit bonuses. And both benefit from unlimited peril with SG.

[fickle depot]

fair 😄

[fading shoal]

Any build you are comfortable with. Better question is how we can improve your build for the twins

[wind spruce]

you should turn 360° and run away (too scary)

[ripe obsidian]

The guns most commonly recommended for gunker are recon lasgun and heavy laspistol, and sometimes vraks iag.

Bistol is okay, but not amazing on Psyker imo

I honestly use EK as my sidearm for meleeker

Just treat it like a gun

[hardy citrus]

I like bistol a lot

i might have to try a recon maybe

[fickle depot]

that's fair 😄

[modest perch]

recon is amazing on psyker

[fickle depot]

just investigating the google doc to see what to prioritise

[modest perch]

that high rof lets ee n tranquility through slaughter stay up all the time

[ripe obsidian]

I try to keep it updated and accurate

[fickle depot]

yeah it seems super comprehensive, 1am brain is just meaning it's taking me a minute to parse lol

[hardy citrus]

UKer detected

[fickle depot]

https://tenor.com/view/teeth-austin-powers-gif-13214781425219593026

[hardy citrus]

@ripe obsidian you still feel up for gaming when ur back or do I not wait up?

[spice aurora]

our h40 ogryns weapon, giga chad energy detected

[hardy citrus]

it's only gigachad if he then goes on to play like a human

[marsh current]

"Play like a human"?

[hardy citrus]

not be a floor cleaner

[ripe obsidian]

I am home, but unsure if I have h40 energy

Very yawny

[ripe obsidian]

Carry him

[hardy citrus]

if ur not up for it, it's no worries

[marsh current]

Floor cleaner as in they drop and die or floor cleaner as in everyone around him dies LUL

[ripe obsidian]

If you were H40, sure, no risk. But right now I am very tired and would play poorly

Don't wanna tank your rank

[hardy citrus]

fair enough yeah

im not that bothered about losses tbh

id like to hit 40 but i generally have no issue getting into hav40's

[ripe obsidian]

We can try tomorrow. I work from home, so I will probably slack off

[hardy citrus]

apart from on psyker where nobody accepts it ever for some reason

huge

[ripe obsidian]

I wanna play more tanky Barktide

Also need to try ex stance vet sometime

And more H40 scum. Ogryn and Zealot, I struggle with

I've done H40 clears as both, but not commonly

[hardy citrus]

i dont like exe ngl

it's cool

but i find i end up fucking around tyring to maintain it

and worrying about it

[ripe obsidian]

I like exe better than shout lately

[buoyant maple]

it's literally just playing arb's EO but as an ability (in terms of how it's played)

[hardy citrus]

yeah i know

i dont deny it's good

[ripe obsidian]

The 8 second duration of the subnode makes it easier

And then 10% toughness per second

[hardy citrus]

yeah that's what i run

[patent jacinth]

Melee exe is super fun if you get a mod to stop the zoom in

You just take weapon spec with something capable of ranged sustain (agri combat for me) and play weapon spec with steriods

[ruby bloom]

I dumped quell speed for my inferno staff and have warp nexus + blaze away am I any good now

[verbal thistle]

no, public execution tomorrow

sorry

its out of my hands

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cardboard-punch-silly-cat-silly-gif-8249771488252948329

[ruby bloom]

thats okay, the world can kill me after Ive burned it down

in my bubble of doom

Does riposte work if you switch?

[ripe obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/stabby-cat-stab-knife-attack-gif-8323277341918006992

[ruby bloom]

im using duelling w/riposte and warp nexus with staff and idfk if im actually getting the extra crit from riposte

[verbal thistle]

"Despite the buff icon staying after weapon swap, the buff does not benefit ranged weapons (including melee special actions)."