psyker-class

[zealous wing]

(i have more psykers)

[crude cape]

so is ER definately needed if you also have vent to pull you out of overload? i noticed Ainz's trauma + skrier build doesnt take it

but skriers isnt venting shriek so idk

[zealous wing]

i run scriers on my rending trauma, but i havent really added many new builds ainz does

i dont think i have any of ainz's

because ainz is ainz

ainz can make anything work out of pure skill

[crude cape]

lol ya

once played with him but he was on another server, and we had 200ping. i folded, being unable to time my dodges normally

he kept going in h40 and had a good clutch attempt, on ogryn, then said "ya im just used to playing with 200 ping"

like bruh

how?!

hes just too good

[zealous wing]

he's got about 3.5 -4k hours in the game tbf

he does h40s in the soloplay mod, but, when its a live game you have 4x the total bullshittery, because theres 4 players not 1

makes it harder to clutch

[hearty wolf]

I thought havoc doesn't scale on intensity which is affected by total players

[crude cape]

wait, solo play spawns 4 times less stuff? i never realized

ive done some auric Maelstrom solos with the mod

didnt realize that

[zealous wing]

i havent watched ainz's playthroughs tho tbh im just going off what dom said after ainz stood somewhere he knew he wasnt supposed to and killed us lol

then he died

[crude cape]

looking at the 'meta builds' page, the only pure flame staff build there is slightly different from yours. i need to try both, but looking at this

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/a027409f-a745-44c1-b76a-045c26d47fa3/the-ultimate-inferno-psyker

he drop ER entirely

[zealous wing]

are you... browsing games lantern?

or is that from the guide

[crude cape]

from the guide

[zealous wing]

ok

i got concerned a moment lmao

[crude cape]

haha

[zealous wing]

and, yeah

its an inferno build

[crude cape]

like im assuming he just really likes KD, so takes it

[zealous wing]

oh

lmao

[crude cape]

i do too, tbf

[zealous wing]

what two points did he sacrifice? i sacrified ghost for kinetic resonance

[crude cape]

he also skips wildfire which....ive heard mixed things on. I was an avid "wildfire sucks" person for a while, but a few here convinced me its actually good, so idk

[zealous wing]

alright

immediate red flag on that one

"ah yes lets shorten my fire range even more by removing wildfire"

[crude cape]

this is vects version, in the guide

[zealous wing]

i

[strange igloo]

wildfire was bugged for a sec if it touched a daemonhost

[zealous wing]

what weapon is it using

[crude cape]

im still not sold on wildfire being good, tbh

[strange igloo]

but Im sure thats not why

[crude cape]

but ive swapped to using it

inferno

[strange igloo]

I use it on force staff

[zealous wing]

because you go from 24 meter range to much further back

and, it spreads so fuckin fast, that you take that OFF in an h40, you WILL feel yourself killing slower, hell, I felt DOM kill things slower during the daemonhost issue

[crude cape]

im not really seeing the benefit. Some extra mobs die, slowly. Could have moved your flame around and same thing happens lol

[zealous wing]

can you move your fire to shoot father than 24 meters?

no

YOU would have to move

yes you can spray side to side

that wasnt the point of this demonstration

[strange igloo]

I've learned that inferno staff just isn't fun to play anymore

[zealous wing]

its to show overall firespread

[crude cape]

ive been using it, specifically hearing you preach it and linking this before, tbh. and i dont really notice too much of a difference, but i also dont miss empryric shock either so, ive started using wildfire

[strange igloo]

not when you use trauma and just stagger crushers

trauma gets decent wildfire spread too

[zealous wing]

indeed

[crude cape]

once in a while an elite/special die off screen, and i dont get that without wildfire i admit. but its also pretty rare

[zealous wing]

its not that rare tbh

[strange igloo]

I don't think its necessary with inferno tbh

[crude cape]

few times a match, tho, which isnt super useful lol

[strange igloo]

I think its a solid damage ramp for trauma though

[zealous wing]

also, without wildfire, you'd have to keep spreading fire on things, wildfire maintains

[strange igloo]

I mean, inferno just kills things anyway

you don't have to keep fire on things

[zealous wing]

the soulblaze does

[crude cape]

i admit you have turned me from "wildfire is trash" to "wildfire is fine and you can take it"

but im still in the camp of not being sold on it being 'great' and i dont think skipping it would overall effect your stats that much

[strange igloo]

they're dead

even in havoc 40 they get shredded pretty quick. Though its pretty to look at when a wave of elites still have soulblaze on them

[zealous wing]

if you play with wildfire a lot, even 10 matches, i think you'd feel the difference if you then have to take it off

[strange igloo]

but elite killing also isn't the inferno psyker's job and its really only noticed on elites

[crude cape]

gonna try your exact tree, if flame staff tho and dont need ER, where do you stick that extra point?

[strange igloo]

THOUGH, if you're in a clutch scenario, you'll be happy to have wildfire

[crude cape]

ya, maybe i should go back to taking it off and see if i feel it now

[zealous wing]

inferno?

[strange igloo]

I think you don't if you have a team. I think you do if you're decent enough to be the last player standing, if that makes sense

[crude cape]

ya that was your trauma build i think, but its basically also the flame staff build, you just said you dont think ER is needed for inferno, but is good for trauma.
Where would i stick the Emperic resolve point if i use inferno?

warp ghost?

[zealous wing]

inferno tree, swap KR back to ghost if you like, i like having KR on hand due to personal experience of pubs failing to go for specials when i need something dead

trauma just has ER instead of ghost or KR

[crude cape]

ER* you mean ya?

[zealous wing]

and trauma has the crit aura

yeah

[crude cape]

gotcha

oh you dont use crit aura on inferno?

[zealous wing]

no

[crude cape]

thought maximizing crit was good, i always ran it with a 5% crit perk too

[zealous wing]

you can go either

[strange igloo]

CDR is a must for high levels

[zealous wing]

its just far more needed on trauma than inferno

since, to get fire at all you need a crit

[crude cape]

i find psyk aura kind of enough, and if you spam venting shriek TOO much you dont sit at high peril and constantly are at 0 warp siphon stacks.
So ive been dropping it for the 5% crit arua personally. but ill keep experimenting

i just came back to psyker after the tree rework

so still learning the new tree

[zealous wing]

you dont shriekspam inferno much either

its usually saved for armour clusters, emergency mass stagger, overload undo, similar situations

[crude cape]

ya

exactly when i spam it off cd

'oh shit' situation lol

obscurus can be used instead of deimos, to stack uncanny ya?

[strange igloo]

just noticed you're shrieking lol

that's my bad

if you were bubble, my point stands

[crude cape]

ah, ya

[zealous wing]

yeah but deimos is a) safer and b) mutie oneshots easier

[crude cape]

i like the cdr if im bubble true

[hardy citrus]

I’m playing a different warhammer tonight

[crude cape]

whats safer about it? I just like the single target dueling of the new obscurus heavies, feel good. I know i wont use it too much but sdometimes you just wanna melee something

[stable silo]

i give up hexis i like your scriers build but i gota meme the firesword

[zealous wing]

inferno bubble is a sad build

[crude cape]

its the general 'meta' tho, unless playing with premade chads. most groups will ask for it

[zealous wing]

hit crusher in face with heavy stab. watch them fall over

[stable silo]

i got the red recolor for the psyker armor that makes me look like a sith and the red FGS and i gota live the meme

[zealous wing]

randoms with poor skill will demand bubble

[ripe obsidian]

Since Darktide uses pseudo-random crits, there are actually breakpoints.

[crude cape]

i see, ya the stagger is nice. And block cancelling the l1 is pretty dope too

[frail tapir]

chat should I take warp ghost on a bubble knight build or no

[strange igloo]

I find it meta because most of my teammates don't know what it means to play behind cover

[zealous wing]

people who are confident in their skill will let people run what they want

[frail tapir]

I'm thinking no

[crude cape]

my bubble knight build doesnt have it, but i feel it would be pretty good for being in melee

just hard to find the point

[zealous wing]

bubble is the perfect tool for getting people to go somewhere specific to hold. its all mind games

[crude cape]

bubble knight is fun, but i always miss skriers when i play it. I want to just play skriers knight lol

[zealous wing]

but if im taking bubble its on bubbleknight, or maybe the bubbletrauma im trying to create

[crude cape]

but again, random groups always ask for bubble

[frail tapir]

I have a spare talent point and am not sure what to spend it on for bubble knight

[ripe obsidian]

I only have maybe 10% of groups ask for bubble. Most people don't question Shriek and assume I know what I'm doing. Sometimes I even do.

[zealous wing]

im never running bubble inferno again, that build dmg output is so sad

[crude cape]

im not 40 yet this season, ive been playing with new friends coming back and working up to even AM. so only get time after they get off to queue up a couple havocs and climb

but so far, ive had a lot ask for it lol

[strange igloo]

shriek does make inferno wayyy better

I think you can go either for trauma though

[zealous wing]

thats because inferno puts fire on things. thats the only thing it does

[stable silo]

@frail tapir whats your bubble knight build ?

[crude cape]

close to 50% of groups.
and a few times when i dont take it, everyone is on the floor quickly.
just havoc random things

[zealous wing]

you take inferno to put fire on things. if you want bubble, take something that wont be cucked by doing so lol

[frail tapir]

well I was gonna send an image then me game crashed

[stable silo]

as nature intended

[frail tapir]

darktide moment

[ripe obsidian]

Honestly, H40 is the most chill level of play. Most people are competent enough that you can trust them to do the right thing in most situations, and people rarely talk. You just play the game, and no one much cares if you win or lose. Usually.

[strange igloo]

this does become more of a "defense or offense" topic. Things can't hit your team if they're dead either so if you're good with shriek, then your team is just as safe

[frail tapir]

my build is pretty similar to this but I'm not taking PC because why and I don't know where to put the point https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9ebacfec-9eb8-4f84-b139-4e3cca58dcfb/bubble-knight-melee-havoc-40?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

[ripe obsidian]

I think Agent removed PC from that build

[frail tapir]

oh they did

[zealous wing]

SIX

NERD

[frail tapir]

well I'm not taking true aim either so I still have a spare point

[zealous wing]

i presume no

but i demand the code readers final say

[frail tapir]

I could put it in the 10% ranged damage if I want to be boring, or do something really silly like crystalline will

[stable silo]

you dont take one with the warp? i thought that was a insta take in most

def could be outdated though

[zealous wing]

its less instatake and more preferred over just a dream

specifically on caster builds or those without a vent method

because, peril spike go brr

[frail tapir]

I prob should take one with the warp

I gots no vent method

[stable silo]

warp ghost is pretty cool keeps your peril high for passive buffs

[frail tapir]

yeah but because I'm taking bubble I don't have the ability to shoot me down to low peril if I need it

[stable silo]

i used to play alot then didnt play for a year and a half now im ready to play again rofl

[zealous wing]

i run this

[frail tapir]

so I don't know if risking super high peril all the time is the best with no emergency button

[stable silo]

i wonder if running dream and one with warp would be overkill

[frail tapir]

that's what I'm donig

immortalityh

[crude cape]

agreed, i have a blast when i play with h40 chads. But im still rank 30 right now so while ive completed a 40 this season, and often get invited. Im sometimes having to 'climb' with lower tier randos and that 'meta' is a bit different. I started at 20 bc i missed playing for a while i had dropped all the way to 20 i guess

[stable silo]

im gonna dumb up your build hexis il swap true aim for OWW then take out quick assail to swap bubble to fire shriek with no other supporting talents

[ripe obsidian]

Don't think so.

[frail tapir]

I haven't played much havoc, feels like too much pressure

[hearty wolf]

I'm so competent I've died 4 times within the space of me being alive being about 2m

Agent is having fun

[frail tapir]

don't want to horribly fumble and then feel like a sandbag on the other havoc players

[hearty wolf]

He's currently been looping for the past 10 minutes while he fights the rot horder

[zealous wing]

ah like the good ol days

what map

if its baross i stg

that map was cursed when rot was brought to havoc xD

[ripe obsidian]

I am like 90% sure that only affects attacks, not CC effects

[ripe obsidian]

It is true. People below H40 are often more desperate to climb, which means they cling to the meta like a drowning man to a life preserver.

[hearty wolf]

@ripe obsidian ?

quit job?

[zealous wing]

tell agent i'm catching up to him

surely that will help him win

[plucky flax]

[ripe obsidian]

Lordy. Here I am at level 600 or so

[zealous wing]

i do find it funny think, i would actually have passed agent by now if i didnt keep making psykers

[ripe obsidian]

All these experts with over 1000 true level

[ripe obsidian]

Work has free bubble tea today. Can't quit yet.

[zealous wing]

idk whats worse

that i have this TL, that i have 2.4k hours, or that ive only been here since august

i think its all bad

[stable silo]

is it really the choice to put carpace on the FGS ? or is that because of its special attack?

[zealous wing]

i would put carapace on the carapace killer yes

unyielding as well, because bossdmg go brr

my FGS single stab PB so far, its a good sword

the special attack is for trash/mixed horde, based on charge level

[ripe obsidian]

FGS has like a 70% ADM on carapace. More stab, more better

[zealous wing]

1 charge for trash, 2 for mixed

[ornate hamlet]

Chat has moved a lot

Since I was last present

This is unnatural

[zealous wing]

its about the speed it would normally move tbh

people come in, ask questions, get answers, ask more questions

but recently its slowed

[ripe obsidian]

Not a lot of questions to ask

Since Fatshark releases content so rarely

[zinc phoenix]

Splitting the game into havoc and auric is ass and kinda killed the fun

[stable silo]

so the play to break armor is the shove stab attack then

[ripe obsidian]

They should at least add a quickstart option for Havoc. I guess the issue there is how do you organize it.

Though honestly, Havoc pre-25 probably shouldn't exist at all

Maybe even pre-30

It should be a direct transition from Auric to Havoc

[stable silo]

do people still run 2x gunner resist on pretty much everything?

atm im running two toughness 1 hp, 2x gunner resist 1x corr resist, then triple toughness

[zinc phoenix]

It’s a preference thing

[ripe obsidian]

I use 3x. 2x is fine.

My curios for H40 Psyker are:

• 3x 17% toughness
• 3x CDR
• 3x gunner resist
• 2x revive speed
• 1x 5% HP

The 5% HP is one-shot protection against snipers and bursters

[crude cape]

this correct? not flak?

[ripe obsidian]

Is korrekt

[waxen jackal]

Hey has anyone ever gotten the error "fatal error, total memory used close background apps and try again?" But when I looked I wasn't anywhere near using all my ram or vram

[ornate hamlet]

I don't recall the error exactly, but I heard mod users can have an out of memory error that supposedly was fixed with this

[zealous wing]

not just mod users, but yeah

you'll still get some mem leak crashes, but they will be more of an "every several hours" rather than "every other mission" in some cases lol
and, every several hours usually covers most players

[waxen jackal]

Sorry I didn't see this to just now. I do use some mods so maybe that's it

[zealous wing]

its mostly fatshark

[waxen jackal]

I was worried something was up with my computer

This is the first time I've gotten one since I started playing on pc

Which isn't very long but 20ish hours

[zealous wing]

--lua-heap-mb-size 2048

for copy/paste ease

rightclick the game in steam, go to properties

paste it right in there at the bottom

then you can launch the game and be relatively good for a while. this setting will save, so you dont need to do it every time either

[acoustic jacinth]

friendslop category? LMAO

[zealous wing]

pretty much

[acoustic jacinth]

peak

[frail tapir]

keep blowing myself up as bubble knight cause I don't have scriers for instant warp clear

thinking of taking BCoB because I don't have a vent ability, what are yall's thoughts

[zealous wing]

will teach you good peril management

dont take bcob

[frail tapir]

well dang it

[zealous wing]

dont take JaD either

if you have it, get rid of it

it isnt helping you not explode

[frail tapir]

I've been wondering about JaD cause if you are running a warp ghost build wouldn't it basically barely do anything

[zealous wing]

pretty much

like, its workable, but

[frail tapir]

then why do I see people run it with warp ghost?

[zealous wing]

for someone new, not a good mix

[frail tapir]

unfortunately, I'm not new

I just suck at the game

[zealous wing]

some kind of new

anyway, yeah take JaD off for now

try to hover around 60 peril and slowly increase that threshold as you get more confident

[frail tapir]

should I run warp ghost or not for bubble knight

[ripe obsidian]

So it does not grant immunity, but slightly better hitboxes.

[frail tapir]

cause I have it on my scriers build but I'm not sure if it'd be the best here

[ripe obsidian]

JaD is a trap node on any non-melee build. >:(

[zealous wing]

warp ghost is good, but its preference. i like it, makes me need to generate peril less often to maintain 90+

plus, the toughness boost and stamina increase is nice

[zealous wing]

bubbleknight

they are having troubles with exploding, so they need to learn how the normal ebb and flow of peril works before adding the "sudden spike in peril" talent

[ripe obsidian]

That is a melee build!

[frail tapir]

real

I only recently have started trying to be decent at the game now that I'm coming back to it as of a week ago

[zealous wing]

bubbleknight is a really good teaching build

and, the bubbleknight i learned on was pre-ghost and pre-JaD, ghost i find beneficial, JaD i find annoying

especially with its weirdness

100% peril, get hit, 97% peril

but only sometimes

and, then i have to throw an assail to get back to 100

then i get hit, back to 97

its annoying

[frail tapir]

yeah I think I'm running into an issue of JaD and then me casting something to raise peril then die

[zealous wing]

its buggy for sure

hence, remove for now, then youre not needlessly suffering

you'll be a little less tanky, but, if anything that'll make you more aware of what you can deal with, positioning, and where the crushers are

[waxen jackal]

Thank you. I'll try this out

[hardy citrus]

@hearty wolf @plucky flax @ripe obsidian is there any gaming going on or are you cringe life-havers?

[hearty wolf]

I'm quitting

I'm washed

[zealous wing]

again?

[hardy citrus]

what happened

i need my darktide fix

[hearty wolf]

I didn't press S into rot armour

[ripe obsidian]

I will probably be home in an hour or so. I am bored of being at the office today

[ripe obsidian]

Did you get overheaded?

[hardy citrus]

ping me when u are

[hearty wolf]

I died 4 times. Twice were overheads (one cos someone jumped down into my which covered my screen and by the time I could see, the bonk came down)

One I failed to press space

[zealous wing]

get spam filtered

[hearty wolf]

Oh actually there was three overheads, the one one was because I found a new piece of geometry to get stuck on in the middle of the street

[hardy citrus]

[hearty wolf]

It'd be cool if you didn't have to path around random pieces of rubble that exist for no reason apart from killing you

[zealous wing]

our teams canonically trip on rocks

[hardy citrus]

I played warhammer today

[zealous wing]

thats the only explaination

[hardy citrus]

actual warhammer

[zealous wing]

nice

[hardy citrus]

first time in over ten years

[hearty wolf]

I dunno what the fourth death is from now that I think about it

[zealous wing]

closest thing ive got is a 1/4th completed beast of nurgle plush im workin on

[hardy citrus]

I mean a lot of my stuff is unpainted

[hearty wolf]

Oh I got trapped I think

[hearty wolf]

Trapper+ flame thrower but if I dodged, I would have to dodge into the flames so I tried to iframe the net

I did not iframe the net

[hardy citrus]

can you do that?

[hearty wolf]

Yeh

[hardy citrus]

zamn

hmmm that'll roll pretty good into low warp res right?

[hearty wolf]

Either way it was a lot of S gameplay and walking back so I lost interest in playing again

[hardy citrus]

join me and six when we play then

and we can hold W for 30 mins

[zealous wing]

might be around 35-40 when you get cleave maxxed?

[hardy citrus]

that'll do

[zealous wing]

it'd do yeah

[hardy citrus]

this is current so big up

[zealous wing]

true

[ripe obsidian]

Did you win?

[hearty wolf]

I need to go eep soon as I'm going into the office tomorrow :(

[hardy citrus]

ehhhh

[hearty wolf]

Six is too busy to play with me

[hardy citrus]

I did actually

[zealous wing]

ah

rip

[hardy citrus]

14-13

[ripe obsidian]

~47% warp res.

80 minus second lowest of 44 = 36 + 11 WR

[hardy citrus]

I won on kill points

because I fielded a ton of death company without a chaplain

nah that's cooked too

I'll just take what ive got, it's stil an upgrade

[zealous wing]

try to hunt for something around 11 or less with everything else in the 70s iirc

for a 29 or lower (?)

[hardy citrus]

yeah im not looking to sink that much really

[zealous wing]

its more a, if you see it buy it

[hardy citrus]

yeah fair

[zealous wing]

brunt can and does have some godroll shit

[hardy citrus]

yep i normally chefk

hmm

[zealous wing]

29 will give 50.6%

[hardy citrus]

i dont think i care about any other melee weapons on psyker really

i have all the force swords and thats all i really need

[zealous wing]

until you near ordo cap and wanna keep watching number go up

thats when you gamble

[ripe obsidian]

I am still sitting at only 19m ordo from my last gambling spree

Something like 700 FGS gambled

[zealous wing]

yeah but you didnt win

so

[marble crater]

Wow

[ripe obsidian]

I won later

On my 2nd psyker

My precious

[zealous wing]

nice

tis how i feel with my 3rd psyker having so many pure 76ers

[marble crater]

I pray for you that Hadron doesn't bug out and make you level it up

[ripe obsidian]

This sword will never touch Hadron again

I already made it orange

[trail orbit]

make lightning staff be able to hit weakspot again!

[hardy citrus]

i do not have remotely that much disposable

to be fair, there's not really a ton i spend on now

and havoc keeps me stocked nice

[trail orbit]

make voidstrike staff havoc viable!!

[marsh badger]

infinite cleave and a shotgun blast lmb

[trail orbit]

omfg that would be amazing. A slight boost to ADM on charge attack and then the staff would SLAP

[fiery stratus]

@deft stump https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/702 Not sure if you've seen this. Looks like it could do something potentially

[narrow herald]

Just get fiber

5hear

[fiery stratus]

rite

[deft stump]

I don't mod.

[deft stump]

I have fiber. Is why 3 ping local.

Broadband was 13 ping local.

[hardy citrus]

@ripe obsidian dont want to rush u, are u gonna be around soonish?

[ripe obsidian]

I just got home. Gotta look over a lease for my new rental, then will probably be free. Timezones make things hard. D:

[hardy citrus]

they do, do you have an eta at all?

even a rough one

[ripe obsidian]

Maybe 20 minutes?

[hardy citrus]

yeah that's no issue

ping me when ur around

[deft stump]

Wot?

Why send weird stuff?

[hardy citrus]

yeah fr zealot chat is RIGHT THERE

[deft stump]

I don't even know what I just watched.

[ripe obsidian]

logging in once steam finishes updating

[hardy citrus]

kk

[ripe obsidian]

okay, invite me or give me yer number

[hardy citrus]

do i actually not have you

8421211255

[ripe obsidian]

Do you want me to play Psyker and do well, or play Arby and maybe do well?

[hardy citrus]

is it rotten

i mean i'd like to try and hit 40 first

35 rn

[ripe obsidian]

we are not doing mine

[hardy citrus]

💀

yeah we aren't

ok nice this is easy

[ripe obsidian]

I have cleared H40 many times with Arby. I'm just better at Psyker

[hardy citrus]

im going zealot

i mean play what u have fun wwith

[ripe obsidian]

I'll do psyker so you get wins

probably

[hardy citrus]

invite me too btw

[ripe obsidian]

I don't know your friend number. D:

[hardy citrus]

[urban fractal]

fucking hell managing peril at a low level is a real fucking pain

[hardy citrus]

@granite mauve ur not around are u?

[ripe obsidian]

that vet just pulled a crusher overhead into me.

[hardy citrus]

awesome

love players that do that

[ripe obsidian]

Yeah, I turned around to see death in the form of rebar

[hardy citrus]

this other zealot was doing everything faster than me

i havent actually played zealot in a while

[ripe obsidian]

Time for me to steal soulblaze

eulch, he has Empyric Resolve and Shriek

Those two don't go together. >:(

[hardy citrus]

uh

[ripe obsidian]

I think he blew himself up

[hardy citrus]

Like

I hjave no room to talk

[ripe obsidian]

I got mutie'd into a puddle of fire, so that was my fault

[hardy citrus]

but still

[ripe obsidian]

I will become barktide

This guy's inferno build is not the worst I have seen, but it's not very good

[hardy citrus]

[ripe obsidian]

is that his knife?

[hardy citrus]

yes

[ripe obsidian]

oof

[hardy citrus]

if we fail this one im getting rid of him on the basis of that knife alone

i also demote so pray for no rotten

[ripe obsidian]

nah, we got this

barktide

[ornate hamlet]

It's not even penetration, goddamn

At least penetration has the loose excuse of "I use uncanny bro"

[urban fractal]

my hookus tookus Gluteus Maximus hurts

[ornate hamlet]

your pooper is having an owie oof oof

[deft stump]

"It's my mobility stick."

[urban fractal]

but yeah in all seriousness that stupid peril is a real pain in my ass

to manage sometimes

[low merlin]

Do you think having two toughness and one stamina curio is acceptable or should I go full toughness?

[radiant frigate]

depends on your melee

[ornate hamlet]

Psyker can get a lot of toughness now, but if memory doesn't fail me kinetic deflection also inherits your stamina

I like using a health curio, personally

[radiant frigate]

is it knife/ds/force sword and you do not have warp ghost? stam curio good

is it fgs? can go without

[ornate hamlet]

My main use of stamina is pushing, which is directly tied to the stamina delay

And since psyker can get KD, I don't even worry too much about using stamina for blocking

But I also don't edge peril like a lot of people do, so it can influence that

[verbal thistle]

unsure about your timezone, but I am on now. @ me when you see this/want to finish it

[ornate hamlet]

And some people just don't take KD, I guess

[radiant frigate]

madness

[verbal thistle]

if I have warpghost and need 1 point. KD is a free point to drop

[fallow elm]

I actually managed to do it

[verbal thistle]

congrats

[fallow elm]

YEAH took some luck and skill

[ornate hamlet]

Very true, bestie 🤝

[frail oar]

I don't like playing without KD.

[ripe obsidian]

@hardy citrus first time using that barktide build. Went okay.

[hardy citrus]

yeah that seemed solid

i saw a lot of dog work

[ripe obsidian]

I did 10% less damage than the psyker.

[radiant frigate]

valerie?

[ripe obsidian]

dat's wyv

[hardy citrus]

ok I did a lot of boss damage at least

[radiant frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/johnny-silverhand-v-cyberpunk-valerie-valerie-cyberpunk-johnny-cyberpunk-gif-8183610774033217358

[ripe obsidian]

oh god, how did I take the least damage

I ate like 4 overheads that game

true grit mvp

[hardy citrus]

yeah it's literally entire fatmangus build in 1 node

[ripe obsidian]

Bleh.

I fucked up the 2nd clutch

Should've opened the door then looped

[hardy citrus]

yeah, happens

[ripe obsidian]

but 3 bosses and the elites, and I panicked

[hardy citrus]

yeah

I mean I am getting FUCKED by gas

unironically boutta go arby for rebreather

[ripe obsidian]

I do not have rebreather

[hardy citrus]

what did scoreboard look like for that one

as u shouldnt

but I'm aboutta do it

[ripe obsidian]

I can check the scoreboard after

[hardy citrus]

ye

[ripe obsidian]

All I remember is that I had like 870k damage and the psyker had 950k

[hardy citrus]

I feel like vet was more efficient for me

[ripe obsidian]

Okay, I can't play with this psyker or zealot anymore

[hardy citrus]

yeah

they were something

[ripe obsidian]

I'll show scoreboards once I load

[hardy citrus]

idk how the zealot managed to make thammer shroud look like a bad boss option

I am going to stop here myself tho

since it's 3:30am

[ripe obsidian]

Reasonable

[hardy citrus]

The zealot seemed nice enough

I'd probably enjoy running aurics with him

[hardy citrus]

I don't really want him in my havoc

[ripe obsidian]

I tried very hard to clutch both of those

The end of the second, I just could not get out of the fire

[hardy citrus]

wtf was he doing in the first one

bro has 26 elite kills

with thammer

inferno psyker lowest damage in team 💀

[ripe obsidian]

Yes.

[hardy citrus]

yeah i really dont know

i feel like i did fine, nothing special

but those two idk

I feel like they went down a LOT

psyker in that last run 💀

bro was dying every 2 mins

im ngl

[ripe obsidian]

Guy was tilted or something

[hardy citrus]

it's crazy how much easier rolling scabs was than dregs

dregs had like 2 pox bombers and the entire thing was unplayable

[ripe obsidian]

Up until 5 bombers spawned

and the entire world became flame

[hardy citrus]

yeah

but like

it took quite a few of them

i died really shitty there

i tried to push the bombers off whoever wwas down

and didnt have a dodge to get back

so they both hit and killed me

[weary idol]

yes

most dreg enemies are direct upgrades to their scab counterparts

scabs have thicker hordes thanks to maulers and that's it

[ripe obsidian]

Every time I found a safe place, it became fire

I was also really annoyed that the zealot ignored me when I got netted in favor of hitting the shielded boss

[hardy citrus]

RIP

[vagrant grove]

yall think i should upgrade or keep warp res at 31

[hardy citrus]

Keep

[vagrant grove]

not all the way

just enough to bump cloud radius up

[ripe obsidian]

Burn needs to be 76 minimum

[hardy citrus]

Oh wait

[vagrant grove]

yeah see

[hardy citrus]

I just realised

It’s 3

[vagrant grove]

thanks friend

[hardy citrus]

I looked at damage saw 80 and went ‘yep it’s done’

Lmao

[hardy citrus]

We did get the Dreyko clear which was nice

And it was nice to play without rotten just generally

[swift stag]

went back and tried to play veteran and had a awful time , serving my beloved is my calling

[ripe obsidian]

We did. It was more of a struggle than it should have been. D:

[hardy citrus]

Yeah

Idk it’s just really hard to get decent players in havoc

I don’t think I’m incredible but I can at least hold my own generally

Some people idk how they cleared 40’s

Gonna go to sleep now tho, ggs

[ripe obsidian]

G'night

[urban fractal]

fucking hell that ER is looking really fucking juicy rn for my psyker

[weary idol]

real

was just a normal auric

not even HISTG

[frail oar]

1400 HORDE DAMAGE

https://tenor.com/view/oh-my-sweet-jesus-gif-10973612

[weary idol]

damage taken

[frail oar]

Yah

So he died like 9 times over to trash?

[weary idol]

yeah

[frail oar]

Smh

[verbal thistle]

@ripe obsidian BoN can see you invis

shrimple as

I have no idea how it saw me

[weary idol]

smell

since they are puppy

(that attack is purely player proximity based)

[verbal thistle]

I'm nearly certain invis bypasses its proximity aoe attack

[white sky]

Its a daemon it saw your soul

[buoyant maple]

I think powerDI’s damage received also tracks the damage taken while downed

[weary idol]

well they got downed 4 times so

probably

[ripe obsidian]

It saw your footprints in the slime

[urban creek]

BETTER YET IT TASTED YOUR FEET THROUGH THE SLIME.

[peak sundial]

hmmmm, the trauma staff is

neat

i see mention of pots being good with it but im curious as to exactly how the numbers turn out, considering the stretch over to that node is a bit annoying in some cases

and if it mostly comes out to something lame like 'oh you kill maulers in 10% less time on average :) ' i will probably not bother

[marsh current]

thanks to the guy who showed me that video for the cliffhanger achievement

It was helpful and I got it

Just need the 40 shocked ones for zealot, the gone bowling for ogryn and frenzied killer 😛

[crude cape]

@zealous wing thanks for tips on build with the new tree earlier. just flame staff things lol rotten armor too using the deimos uncanny trick was huge

not a clean run tho, went down a few times front line really did work

[fading patrol]

Smelly
Slime debuff? Response to stagger?

[verbal thistle]

I have no clue

The servers were a bit laggy that match though

[patent jacinth]

I feel like it just queued it or smth

[verbal thistle]

Maybe?

But it roared

That means it swapped agro

And that meant it was going for me

And it never does aoe when it's targeting you

[zealous wing]

very cool

ggs

[ripe obsidian]

hexis

invite me to a game

I am losing my mind with randoms

[plucky flax]

Best I can do is h40 early morning EU.

Which is dead I think.

[zealous wing]

its not even 8am yet 😭

i went to sleep at 2

you still want me?

[ripe obsidian]

I unno, ask agent

he invited me

[zealous wing]

like, im down but, first game i always suck ass

[plucky flax]

You come too.

We will try to survive.

[zealous wing]

k can you give me like

8 minutes

literally still in bed

[plucky flax]

Okay I go wash my face and shave.

[ripe obsidian]

Gotta say, kiting a wall of rotten + rampaging crushers in circles for 5 minutes while slowly whittling them down is not particularly engaging gameplay

[stable silo]

mistakes made i tried crack of bone with a FGS scriers build

[plucky flax]

If you want to stay in gaze during horde yeah

But it's not needed.

[ripe obsidian]

Well, I died to some dodges the server didn't recognize. But I think I did pretty well as a wall of an Arby

What say ye @plucky flax @zealous wing

I require detailed feedback.

[zealous wing]

i agree

[plucky flax]

Seems okay maybe could use with more specials kills.

[zealous wing]

true, however

[ripe obsidian]

How in the world am I supposed to get special kills with this team comp

[deft stump]

He has ping though.

[zealous wing]

kept my tired ass mostly alive

[deft stump]

Get luckier.

[zealous wing]

impressively tbh

blazing trauma might be my main tbh

[zealous wing]

for havocs

[ripe obsidian]

Like, we have Scum, Shriek Psyker, and Vet

And I have the horde clear shotgun

D:

Special kills are not a thing I can really get when my face is buried between 4 crushers

[plucky flax]

I never use that shotgun mk

[zealous wing]

i dont think the vet died to gunners at all

which is funny

he asked for bubble xD

[ripe obsidian]

I am trying it

[zealous wing]

he didnt demand but he did ask

[ripe obsidian]

Mk3 shotgun feels nice to blast into hordes of elites

[plucky flax]

The vet's krak gimped my tox damage on crushers.

[zealous wing]

he did well enough though, i presume he was also having issues, he DC'd like 3 times

[deft stump]

I thought is better than the brittle mark?

[zealous wing]

i clipped me using movetech

[plucky flax]

I dunno I only use the mk7 shotgun or something to snipe specials.

[ripe obsidian]

I press F and G and Mouse3 and heavy attack and crushers stop moving forward.

[plucky flax]

I don't need to horde clear with range weapon on arby.

[buoyant maple]

That vet prob spent quite a while dead or wasn’t very good (or both)

[zealous wing]

he shouted, i saw a burster, used it to leave him and join you guys

[ripe obsidian]

It's @buoyant maple who recommended it to me. D:

[plucky flax]

I play different I guess.

[deft stump]

Oh. Ppl kept calling me out for using the brittle mark so... I swapped back to the shock mark.

[plucky flax]

You do whatever you want karien.

[buoyant maple]

Mk8 is ok just different purpose gun

[deft stump]

So, annoy you guys?

[plucky flax]

[buoyant maple]

Wdyt

[ripe obsidian]

It feels nice as a, "There are things in front of me that I don't want there" button

[zealous wing]

look at this xD

i could never pull this off awake

[ripe obsidian]

Though I do think the Mk3 leaves me pretty reliant on dog and teammates for anything outside of middle range

[buoyant maple]

Yes

It’s a dedicated frontline tool

You trade a lot of range to be able to mog rager/mauler with it

[ripe obsidian]

I enjoyed it fairly well. No aim, only pewpew

[deft stump]

And then the shotpistol... I wish it had more range.

[buoyant maple]

But it can deal with trapper flamer pretty well

[ripe obsidian]

Stability is the dump, yes?

[buoyant maple]

2 shots to kill but first shot is heavy stagger so u can usually close in the distance

[buoyant maple]

Yea this gun is entirely based on min pellet count for damage

Ur basically never getting >min pellet count’s damage unless u stick the barrel into a heretic’s face

[deft stump]

Isn't that rule of cool for shotguns though?

[buoyant maple]

I should also mention that LW and forceful subnode’s atk speed bonuses

Both apply to ranged

Ext3 is slightly faster firing than ext8

[ripe obsidian]

I am not using Lone Wolf, but I am using forceful

[zealous wing]

dog was nice and useful

[ripe obsidian]

Doggo did 300k damage

[zealous wing]

i still dont understand why people get rid of dog

[ripe obsidian]

Good doggo

[zealous wing]

shock mines are their only reason it seems, but, dog is so much more versatile, AND autokills stuff

[ripe obsidian]

I'm working on a) getting better at melee combos with the shield and b) microing the dog between enemies

[ripe obsidian]

Lone Wolf is an obscene amount of raw stats

[buoyant maple]

Dog is really strong utility

[zealous wing]

and i still feel LW is worse than having dog

[prime elk]

Impact grenades are really funny

[buoyant maple]

Usually yes

[ripe obsidian]

What was my second death, Hexis? I know the first one was me lagging and getting netted right at the beginning

[zealous wing]

uh

[buoyant maple]

Dog being on demand AOE heavy stagger on human units is just

Really strong

[zealous wing]

pffff

[buoyant maple]

And it can stagger Ogryns

[zealous wing]

i dont remember

thinkin

[ripe obsidian]

isn't the doggo pounce w/ voltaic shock a 5 second stun on crushers, too?

[plucky flax]

You died at mid event.

Start of mid event

[ripe obsidian]

oh yeah. I died trying to get the revive

Greeding for the revive

lol

[zealous wing]

oh yeahh

[buoyant maple]

I kinda can’t remember if that talent is dot only or does stun too

[ripe obsidian]

"Electrocution: stacks once; lasts 5s; deals 57.5 base damage with decent armor damage modifiers across the board; deals damage and stagger in a tick interval between 0.3s and 0.8s (randomly chosen); staggers all enemies except Mutants, Poxburster, monstrosities and Captains/Twins."

Per Kuli

[buoyant maple]

Does it mention stun

[ripe obsidian]

No, but I can test it. I'm like 90% sure it does

[buoyant maple]

If not then it’s just regular stagger effect

[zealous wing]

it does make them freeze in place for a little bit

[deft stump]

It's stupid for a 1 point trade.

[ripe obsidian]

seems like a shocky stun

[zealous wing]

one point trade, and a loss of an auto-targeting killing machine

[buoyant maple]

Ok it does stun

[deft stump]

Is better at low ping imo.

Dog is just required when I play D&D when swinging.

[ripe obsidian]

I do miss the stun-on-demand from arby maul, but having a special attack that's, "Give me a second to think," is really nice on the shield

[buoyant maple]

I wish the arb shield & maul could charge energy from staggering enemies

Instead of only from blocking and slowly charging over time

[ripe obsidian]

Yeah, it's kinda sad that it's only from blocking and time

I had to look it up before this game

Also, being able to block bullets is just nice

Between the shield and True Grit, I felt way tankier than I usually do on Lone Wolf w/ arby maul

[buoyant maple]

Canine morale op

Plus forceful giving TDR as well

[ripe obsidian]

now that it works properly.

[buoyant maple]

Was it not working properly before?

[ripe obsidian]

Yeah

[buoyant maple]

I don’t remember

[ripe obsidian]

When it released, it didn't work if bleed/shock killed the target or if an ally killed the target

It had to be base dog damage or you

[buoyant maple]

That got patched early on then

I wasn’t playing when arb released

[ripe obsidian]

Got patched when the fix for damage attribution happened

[buoyant maple]

Was on vacation in Japan

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1075782743285301308/1448329868491100252/supra.gif

[ripe obsidian]

Doggo damage didn't count for the player for the first month or so

It was just unattributed damage that the doggo buried in the yard

So any kills it got didn't count for you

But now it's way more consistent and reliable

I think my build has like 10%+20%+25% TDR and then another 15% overall DR.

Though I do wish there were a doggo skin that didn't have wounds and stuff. :<

[buoyant maple]

I just use the deluxe edition skin for dog

Man I wish the arb deluxe armor torso didn’t have clipping issues with gauntlet

That armor looks so sick

[ripe obsidian]

The fully robotic one makes me a little sad

[zealous wing]

at least with like, the legs missing, one can pretend they're replaced when they require it... the whole head though...

:(

[ripe obsidian]

I use this skin because I choose to believe it's a doggy helmet, not a head replacement

'cause this skin at least still has teef and a tongue

[zealous wing]

teefers are a good indicator

[ripe obsidian]

hot take, I like BtL better than Ogryn charge

[zealous wing]

i agree

[ripe obsidian]

BtL is more, "Get the FUCK away from my rejects." Ogryn charge is, like, "Seeya guys, I have places to be."

[zealous wing]

i also dislike FotF

[buoyant maple]

Ogryn charge’s issue is that it wants u to go through a lot of enemies but most of the time u just use it to stagger the enemies nearby

But og charge is way more powerful than BtL

[ripe obsidian]

I mostly charge and dodge backward after a short distance

[buoyant maple]

Pretty similar CD too

[buoyant maple]

Yea

Bruiser is +100% cd rate and activates from all elite kills

So og gets charge every ~15s or so

[ripe obsidian]

My BtL is up every 10ish seconds, usually

[buoyant maple]

BtL with CD subnode is 15s lowest

[ripe obsidian]

CDR curios and psyker aura

:D

[buoyant maple]

Yea psyker op

[zealous wing]

imagine if PA still applied to team

[ripe obsidian]

Curios and aura knock it down to 15.6, then -5 from the subnodes

[ripe obsidian]

That was doofy

[zealous wing]

it wouldnt even be a problem anymore in terms of people demanding it

(op as fuck tho)

but, since any blitz can access it

and, its on every single build

[buoyant maple]

Psyker doesn’t need to get any stronger than they are rn

[obtuse dome]

Isnt it a helmet? I think so.

Pretty aure ur dog still inderneath that.

[ripe obsidian]

I hope it is.

[zealous wing]

wrong, scriers too weak, it needs to be buffed again. give atk speed FS

[ripe obsidian]

Scrier's gaze now increases melee range by 100%, attack speed by 20%, gives gold toughness if you overcharge toughness while in SG

[zealous wing]

• with no golden toughness cap

[buoyant maple]

Ok nerf psyker toughness to 50 and remove their +toughness talent nodes

If they do that they can buff psyker however they want idc

[zealous wing]

remove vets only DR node

[buoyant maple]

Vet has no global DR

[zealous wing]

its a toughness DR

[buoyant maple]

Psyker needs 95~100 nerfs from their current state

[zealous wing]

honestly also remove hivescums immunity to all attacks

[ripe obsidian]

tbh my ideal psyker would have no DR nodes, but pretty silly toughness regen. I want my glass cannon to be glass. I want to be able to survive one mistake, then have to regen or die.

[zealous wing]

if their goal was "a class that thrives on dodging" they failed lmfao

[ripe obsidian]

So... current toughness regen rate, but no DR nodes

Or at least hide the DR nodes somewhere harder to reach in the tree

[ripe obsidian]

Zealot was already the dodge class

I feel like Scum steps on Zealot's toes a lot in every way other than instakilling bosses

[zealous wing]

pretty much, hive scum while fun was poorly thought out

[ripe obsidian]

or fatmangus tanking

[buoyant maple]

Hvs is pretty much better zealot

[ripe obsidian]

I agree.

[zealous wing]

3 shots from needler, kills an auric crusher. 5 shots from it, puts you at tox cap.
you get 20 shots for needler from pickpocket

[ripe obsidian]

Some things are 1:1 comparisons, like fire grenade to tox grenade

Or toxin on crit vs bleed on crit

[verbal thistle]

Compare desperation to street brawler

Lol

[zealous wing]

corruption removal and immunity from the stim supply, vs zealots BoP

[buoyant maple]

Zealot gets mogged outside of monster chunking

[ripe obsidian]

so the same thing, but with defense bonuses

[verbal thistle]

Yeah

20% Dr for saving stam

[ripe obsidian]

Scum is Zealot with more damage, more utility, and a bit less single-target burst damage and tankiness (only if you build for it)

Though I will gladly say that most zealots I've seen recently have been stealth instead of bookbots. Even if they aren't better, it's more interesting

[verbal thistle]

Fatmangus wave

[buoyant maple]

Shroud is good for boss skip

[verbal thistle]

You should see zealot chat

[zealous wing]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1448069748716994672/infinite_crates.gif

[verbal thistle]

Every other grey name is asking about fatmangus

[buoyant maple]

And unlike FotF shroud actually gets 1 taps on crushers with pretty much every good zealot weapon

[ripe obsidian]

unless they're rotten

[buoyant maple]

Yea, rot can use changes tbh

Should be ranged & DOT

[verbal thistle]

Explosion?

[ripe obsidian]

But a lot of them are... quite bad at anything except hitting a boss.

[buoyant maple]

I don’t mind explosion that much because explosion sources are comparatively limited

[verbal thistle]

Explosion weapons are still very strong

Rumbler, krak, trauma

[buoyant maple]

And it would just completely kill krak

[ripe obsidian]

My view of it is that rot with only ranged damage reduction was a balanced risk/reward. Get into melee range against the scary enemies if you want to kill them.

Current rot is just, "lol fuck you for getting into melee"

[zealous wing]

rocket

[unreal bridge]

Rot in havoc 30+ is such a slog

[zealous wing]

i had fun

[ripe obsidian]

if your team can't handle rot, yeah

[unreal bridge]

I just wish it didn’t effect everything in the game BUT dot

[ripe obsidian]

My last game, we had toxin scum, trauma psyker, and krak vet

So rot died quickly enough

[unreal bridge]

I usually just put whip on the flame staff but I think I’m staying to scum now

scum is too much fun

[zealous wing]

blazing trauma did surprisingly well

[ripe obsidian]

This game, however, I spent probably 5+ minutes just kiting in a circle trying to slog through the crusher waves while the rest of my team was dead

[zealous wing]

i still outdamaged agent

which, considering agent clutched twice

[unreal bridge]

I did enjoy rocking shield tantgryn if my team has enough damage tho

[zealous wing]

[unreal bridge]

Ohh interesting

are you eu?

[ripe obsidian]

Blazing Trauma is quite good. Explosion damage, strong CC, chain reactions of fire

[deft stump]

You mean UnsanctionedPsyker.

[ripe obsidian]

NA

[unreal bridge]

I wanna play with better players more often mane

party finder is so interesting lmao

[ripe obsidian]

I'm... an okay player. Not amazing.

[unreal bridge]

don’t worry I’m not that good

I start struggling around 32 ish

[ripe obsidian]

I'm rarely the reason a team loses, but also I rarely hardcarry

I'm usually 2nd or 3rd best on whatever team I'm on.

[unreal bridge]

Then again idk I’m starting to feel my performance is really map based

then again I don’t have leaderboard so im just guessing

[ripe obsidian]

@zealous wing hast thou tried removing ER on Shriek Trauma? I swapped ER to PotS and EE to Warp Ghost

[deft stump]

Isn't this why you all play with me? I'll just somehow be not doing anything barring dog damage?

[zealous wing]

no but when i didnt have EE i felt it very badly

[ripe obsidian]

with no EE and no ER, I feel almost immortal on trauma

So much toughness regen

I also feel like uptime on EE is not great with Trauma

[zealous wing]

i could try ER for ghost, but, i am very "i have EE i can deal with these while people are behind cover"

EE is like my revive speed curios

there when i need it

[ripe obsidian]

EE is permanent on my EK and Inferno builds, but I have been feeling pretty okay without it on Trauma

[deft stump]

You mean, slide into gunners spamming right trigger?

[zealous wing]

i just need things to be on fire and i can trigger EE

[zealous wing]

only if other things are on fire because im shit at aiming under most circumstances

[ripe obsidian]

Is not bad, for sure.

PotS is also hardly necessary, but it's a nice little boost on RMB damage

[deft stump]

Oh, guess I'm doing something wrong then.

[zealous wing]

if things are on fire, and you get a crit with primary (or secondary) without hitting anything, it counts

[ripe obsidian]

I know

'tis silly

[zealous wing]

i think i'd sooner remove quietude than EE personally, ik i rely on it a ton but, its for muscle memory at this point

[ripe obsidian]

This is my last blazing trauma game. Took more damage than I should've, but I can't recall if EE would have changed that

[deft stump]

Wot.

Is this just FS moment?

Also explains certain things then.

[ripe obsidian]

No. Is working as intended.

Whether or not that's good design is a different question

It's likely meant as a way for a DoT-focused class to still benefit from crit blessings.

[deft stump]

Cos I was just not getting hit spamming trying to get into range while the usual things are burning from spread.

[ripe obsidian]

The check for a crit and the check for a hit are separate

So it checks if there's a crit, then stores that until your next hit

Which is pretty much immediate because fire

[zealous wing]

btw was this vet a random

[deft stump]

That's like jank.

[zealous wing]

they sent me a FR

[ripe obsidian]

Dunno, ask @plucky flax

[zealous wing]

they also tried to join us again when it was just you and i sitting around here yapping

so, just wanna know before accepting

agent how long does a shower take god damn

[ripe obsidian]

Agent is probably going to work now

[deft stump]

Maybe they just want easy wins?

[zealous wing]

dunno, they had a 40 clear before i did

they performed well enough as well tbh

they did die/down a few times but they also flat out disconnected 3 times

[ripe obsidian]

Hard to judge on that performance.

They DC'd a lot

And did more krak damage than all other sources combined

[deft stump]

Thus, when you find decent, you just stick?

[zealous wing]

tbh with rot, what else could they do 😂

all the trash was belong to me

all the specials were belong to me

[ripe obsidian]

I mean

I did 1.3m damage

I did more ranged damage than them

[zealous wing]

you had aoe shotgun

he had

uh

plasma?

[ripe obsidian]

He had being a vet

[deft stump]

Do you want them to shoot plasma into crushers?

[ripe obsidian]

Was not plasma

Was bistol

And no ammo aura

[deft stump]

BISTOL IS A STATSTICK.

[ripe obsidian]

I am aware

[zealous wing]

ah bistol

[ripe obsidian]

Do not yell at me. I'm sensitive

[deft stump]

Shooting crushers on auric uses a full clip and then some.

[zealous wing]

i think at the start he did ask

if you wanted ammo aura

[deft stump]

If you don't minmax into shot damage.

[ripe obsidian]

oh, I didn't see that

alas

[zealous wing]

he spoke it

[ripe obsidian]

I did not hear that

alas

[zealous wing]

i heard it even through my loud music

lol

[ripe obsidian]

my old ears can't hear these things

[zealous wing]

youre surely not that old

[ripe obsidian]

I am ancient

I am the land

[zealous wing]

imma guess 30s

maaaybe early 40s at most

[ripe obsidian]

I'm in my 30s

I just exaggerate for comedic effect

[deft stump]

How much older than pokemon?

[ripe obsidian]

Release of Red in NA or JP?

[deft stump]

Og.

[zealous wing]

youre not old til you hit like, 48-50 at this point imo, and even then thats like, the very early old, 63 i think would be actual old, and 70s is proper old

[ripe obsidian]

If you mean the JP release date, then I am 3 years older than Pokemon

Here's the scoreboard for reference, Karien

I got bullied by ping

:<

[deft stump]

Young.

[ripe obsidian]

I am ancient

[deft stump]

I'm always bullied by ping.

[ripe obsidian]

Craggy

[deft stump]

Lies.

I'm 4 years older than pokemon.

[ripe obsidian]

We can both be ancient

[zealous wing]

you're only 7 years older than me

[ripe obsidian]

And in those seven years I have become older than you can imagine

[zealous wing]

valid

the last 7 years have been wild

[deft stump]

My spine basically always hurts.

[wooden sand]

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